This Paranormal Life - #417 Did Police Officially Report A Ghost? - The St. Catharines Poltergeist

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Usually in a Poltergeist case, we're lucky if we have two witnesses to rub together. But when Bob Crawford was called out to investigate a domestic disturbance in 1970 in Ontario, he had no idea he was going to stumble into one of the best documented poltergeist cases in Canadian history. Soon, the entire town would be gathered at 237 Church Street, and the residents inside would be fighting for their lives...Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I don't even think I said that part. You do? But I get that out of the way so we can just dive right into the story. Okay. I like it. And that's what we're going to do today because today we're actually responding to a listener submission. One from Tracy Verner who posted this suggestion in the This Paranormal Life Facebook Secret Society.

Ooh, a good place to post something. They posted saying, possible topic for the boys, St. Catherine's, Ontario, Canada. Back in the 70s, there was a poltergeist incident at 237 Church Street. Ooh, this is a good kind of old fashioned movie style tip off. Yeah. I like to think that they might have even kind of called this one in and a payphone in the middle of nowhere. Right.

You know, I got a tip for the boys. Yeah, yeah. It's like, wait, who is this? I've said too much. Hang up the phone. Yeah. I mean, immediately my curiosity was piqued because you know how bad a poltergeist has to be to start haunting people on Church Street?

Yeah, I was kind of... You're in enemy territory. St. Catharines, my interest was peaked. I was going, okay, is this an exorcism? What could it be? Yeah. A ghost appearing in St. Catharines, Church Street, God'sville, that's insane. That ghost is flexing. I think that's a case of the street doth protest too much. You know, if you're going into that much ever to brand, you know, to kind of do the old landlord special, kind of paint everything over with white paint, make it look real holy. What are you covering up?

Yeah. That's a really, really good point. If you're calling it Jesus city, that place is going to be pretty dark. I'm calling it right now. This is where we're at the gates of Bethlehem, the Middle East. And what are you hiding guys? Can I get into Jesus city? I was a pretty bad guy on earth, but I hear you all are pretty forgiving. But before we dive in, of course, just a reminder that you can get every episode of this podcast ad free over on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life.

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He arrived at the scene, dealt with the disturbance, and went to return to his police cruiser. But before he could open the door, a woman frantically approached. She was from the house next door and looked as if she'd seen a ghost. Officer, if you have a moment, would you be able to help me? What seems to be the problem, ma'am? You're gonna wanna see for yourself.

Bob cautiously followed the woman into her apartment and upon opening the door, he knew immediately something was wrong. The place was a wreck, furniture and objects scattered across the floor. What the hell happened here? Officer Crawford, do you believe in ghosts? Alright, just slowly back out of the house, Officer Crawford. You technically did your job.

You were here for the house next door. This is a whole other thing. Yeah. It's still time to just kind of walk away. Stranger danger still applies to policemen. Policemen still have to worry about stranger danger sometimes. Yes, you absolutely do. Unfortunately, I think you are supposed to, what is the police motto?

Serve and protect? At least in America it is. Aren't we? Where are we? In Canada?? At least in America it is. Aren't we? Where are we? In Canada? That's true, yeah. Yeah, there's still chance to just turn off the body cam. Leave the house.

Say you never got the car. Whoa! No one said turn off the body cam. What are you saying? Because then, inevitably, when this family gets haunted to death, they're going to drag out the footage of you slowly backing away from the haunted house. And that's not going to look good on camera, is it? The woman told Bob her story.

Many days ago, herself, her husband, and two sons started experiencing strange activity in the house. Specifically, objects moving around by themselves. And we're not talking about cups and plates here. An entire chest of drawers have been thrown on its side in the kitchen. These ghosts are whipping out WWE style power moves in the house. This is really great to hear this kind of so early in today's case because I think

we had to listen through about three parts of the Enfield haunting to kind of get to furniture moving. Yeah. I think I kind of teased it out for a lot longer than this. It usually does start small. Usually it's like a candle blows out or a cup drags itself across a table. Yeah, I think we're more than 10 days in at this point when they've had to get the police involved.

So already they're probably throwing children through tables. Yeah, really sticking with the WWE theme. Yeah, ghosts and poltergeists tend to have a kind of Hollywood sense of pacing normally, don't they? They don't tend to go in zero to a hundred. They kind of start drip feeding little breadcrumb trail. Yeah. Kind of like, I could have sworn I left the cup there right next to the saucer, but yet

it's three inches to the right. I didn't. And then, like you say, two weeks later, they're, like you say, choke slamming your son off kind of the banister of the staircase. That would be really funny if they just went zero to a hundred. They just drop kicked an old lady down a set of stairs. I like to think of it as it's like dating, wining and dining, you know? They start slow, little messages, just getting to know each other.

Then the first date, what is that? Possibly a cup moving, a plate being tossed, eventually building to some sort of big climax. If the ghost appears with a vibrating dildo and a set of edible underpants, they've gone too far too fast. Yeah. You know?

That's at least third date. Yeah. Like that might work in Burgheim, but not in most people's homes. You've got to start slow and work your way up there. So at this point, they're a couple dates in with the ghost, it's safe to say. Well Officer Crawford was sympathetic, but he really didn't know how to help. There's not much I can do, but let me see if there's someone I can call who might be able to help. So, he took out his phone and called a local priest to see if he could come to the house and assist them.

I'm having a spiritual issue here at Church Street, Father, and I wanted to know if someone from the clergy could come over and help. The priest replied, Oh, I already know about that place. I went to that house earlier this week. Oh, so it's nothing to worry about? Nothing to worry about? My dude, I saw a f***ing bed crawl across the room like a spider. It turns out the priest had already visited and witnessed paranormal activity himself

first hand. We are coming into this story late, Kit. People have already been in and investigated this site. But he agreed to come back to the house and try and comfort the residents while Officer Crawford was there. It really sucks that priests have to deal with this. You know, we've said it before, they are kind of the weirdly the first line of defense against the paranormal and especially in historic tales. They didn't get into the clergy to do this, you know?

SIDDHU Yeah, I don't know. Is that kind of like part of the responsibilities where they're like signing you up? They're like, look, they're, it's mostly just going to be like kissing babies and shaking hands, spreading the good word of the Lord. Sure, occasionally, once in a career, you may have to Dragon Ball Z style battle spiritually with a demon from another realm. It may last days, it may last years. You may take it to the next life. You might not be able to get into heaven because you guys are still fighting at the pearly gates. Well, we don't know. You just gotta bear that in mind while you're signing up, you know? Do you see Father Plunkett over there?

He's f***ing bent in half like Quasimodo. He's like, he has so many demons on his back, literally. He can't stand up straight. He's 19 years old. But the ravages of the fight have turned his body to dust. Yeah, you think it's gonna be all christenings and baptisms, and as soon as you pass priest school, I guess that's what it is. They give you a dirty Harry-style revolver.

It's just filled with holy water. It's a little water pistol. You're gonna need this. You'll never be seen without it. I guess there's not many jobs like that where it should be calm for your entire time, but there is a 1% chance it's the scariest job alive. seen without it. I guess there's not many jobs like that where it should be calm for your entire time, but there is a 1% chance it's the scariest job alive. Maybe it's like being the guy who's in charge of sewer maintenance in New York City. And it's like, look, I know that we said the job was mostly going to be just looking after

the tunnels, making sure the sewage system is flowing properly throughout the tunnels of the city. We don't know what happened, but a rat has trained four turtles. And they're actually pretty good at martial arts now, and they kind of live down there. And they're mostly doing good stuff, by the way. They're mostly taking care of crime. But the mayor doesn't trust them. They're unregulated, and his slides a gun across the table. We need you to shoot Raphael.

What happens in this? He's the leader of the pack. No, you can spare Michelangelo. He's just a party dude. But Raphael has to go. You're going to want to bait them with this pizza. All right. And then when their back is turned, shoot Michelangelo in

the back of the head because they're pretty good at martial arts. But turtles, famously, the heads like made a marshmallow. The shell is hard. Don't shoot the shell. You need to kill the leader with a gun. And I know they can be pretty hard to spot because I know they they wear like a little like bandana around their eyes. So they look human. They look fully human. No mistake in them. But I like the detail of they're pretty good at martial arts. The guy's like, yeah, I did like three years of judo

and they had me on my back in like three seconds flat. It's like, aren't they turtles? They're barely turtles anymore. For all intents and purposes, they are men. They are strong men. The turtle part of their DNA is gone. Did I mention the rat is Japanese? Don't ask me why. We don't know why. We have no idea.

Yeah, this does happen. There are a lot of careers that should be boring, but sometimes, sometimes can be very dramatic, including, I assume, being a priest in the Catholic Church. And that's what happened. This priest, even though he has been to the house before, agreed to come back, if not to solve the problem, to at least comfort the residents in this difficult time. Morrie, I can actually, this is incredibly topical. We're talking about what it would be like to be one of these priests. We were sent this. if you're watching on youtube.com, you can see them holding up to the camera. Boom. Something was sent to us by Father Biff, one of our rare clergymen in the commune.

I'm sure there's some. That sounds like a fictional character we make up, Father Biff. Yeah. He listens to the show. He's like a priest but also a bully. But this is real. And he sent in a right of exorcism book. And then it says, the back says the Roman right of exorcism for authorized Catholic priests.

There you go. And it is, we've mentioned before, worryingly, this book is filthy. It is, no, I don't mean the lyrical content. Like this is an M and M record. No, I mean, it is, it looks like it's covered in blood. There actually might be blood. Yeah, I actually don't like having that in the studio. Or maybe I should like having it in the studio.

Jury's still out on that one. And it's like a bunch of, it's like, it's basically like a, from what I gather, it is kind of selected ambient works except, except it's the selected exorcist works of the Bible. It's just picking on all the kind of prayers against Maleficence prayers against evil prayers again, you know, trying to us creepy stuff, bro. But you imagine if you were like, yeah, it's so cool. I mean, check out this chapter.

You start reading it and I burst into flames. Two words and you're gone. You just read, our father, ah! Vomit starts spewing from my mouth. Yes, it is very cool to have that. We might need it by the end of today's story. Well, when the priest arrived at the house, Officer Crawford was in the middle of trying to calm down

the incredibly distressed residents in the kitchen. All right, all right, look, it's going to be fine. We're going to get through the- Oh, oh, look, the priest! The priest is here. Now we can all figure this out together. But before the priest could even open his mouth, the group heard the sound of footsteps stomping through the living room. Who else is in the home right now?

Officer Crawford asked. No one, the family replied. Bob drew his gun. I mean, probably, probably not. I don't know. I'm just thinking. That's what I would do. When he entered the room, he noticed

that a random chair had moved all the way from the table at the side to the center of the room. The priest leaned in towards Officer Crawford. This is the kind of shit I was talking about. The priest went, I'm gonna go get coffee. Anyone want coffee? They're like, you know what I would take? The door's just swinging. I don't know why. That's the last thing I want is for a priest to lean in and whisper something to me.

There's no context where that should be something that needs to happen. All of a sudden, the silence was interrupted by the doorbell. Oh God, what is it now? Officer Crawford threw open the door to find his backup, Constable Bill Weir. Hey, how's it going, Crawford?

Dispatch says you need backup on a domestic disturbance. Now, Crawford probably should have just told Bill to go home. But at this point, they figured they needed all the help they could get. So, Crawford caught him up to speed. And Bill responded, Oh, the hauntings? Oh yeah, I know. I've been here already. Bill Weir said that he'd visited the apartment once before, Oh, the hauntings? Oh yeah, I know, I've been here already.

Bill Weir said that he'd visited the apartment once before, when nearby tenants had reported strange occurrences coming through the walls. And fair play to Bill, he actually went far enough as to contact the engineering department and the gas company of St. Catharines who inspected the building but could find nothing to explain the noises. So it seems our protagonist today, Crawford, he's coming into this thing later. He thought he was the person discovering this case, but they've already brought in police and a priest before to investigate it. Makes sense.

He's kind of catching up. Unfortunately, neither Bob, Bill or the priest were any help that day. In fact, not only could they not stop the paranormal activity, they themselves witnessed it firsthand. They reported paintings swinging on the walls, bowling trophies launching across the room, and chairs levitating from the floor while people were sitting in them. Goodness gracious. I can't say I am surprised that kind of a demon or poultry guys presumably by the name of kind of Beelzebub or Ezekiel could be stopped by guys named either Bill or Bob. Yeah yeah you gotta have a cooler name than that for sure. Yeah this is this is I mean, I like that this is happening

to police officers in today's story, which are few of the people in this world that even in the 1970s had to keep very strict written records of kind of everything that they do on a daily basis. Right. So that kind of helps us a lot today. But to be honest with you,

there was so much insane shit that they claimed they saw in this house. I'm just gonna list some of it off right now for us. They said at one point a sofa with four people on it started floating. When one woman on the sofa realized that she was essentially flying, she fainted. Wow. Unbelievable. Four people?!

Four people floating on a sofa across the room? You're not like catching that out of the corner of your eye. That's happening. Yeah. That's insane. They said an invisible force shoved a boy up against the wall multiple times. And when he tried to sit by one of the police officers, quote, an unknown entity tried to steal the child. Whoa, not cool. Pick on someone your own size. I like that he was trying to sidle up to the policeman, get a little bit of protection.

They're like, that bag of meat can protect you from the spirit forces. I know. It's also such a terrifying description of what, because what does that even mean? The boy was like getting pulled in a direction or something? An entity tried to steal the child! That sounds like a portal open to the nightmare realm, and like a hand came through it and grabbed the boy by the ankles.

Terrifying stuff. Apparently it took multiple police officers just to stop him from floating away. What? This is some Willy Wonka shit. He's like floating up into the ceiling. Roy, I can't wait to see the presumably reams and reams of photos that were documented that day because of stuff that's flying left and right and center like that. We are, I mean, Jesus, in the 70ies, we're in the heyday of film photography. Yeah, yeah.

Still no phones though. Consumer cameras everywhere. I even own a number of cameras from the seventies and they are, woo, they are brilliant. I don't think it- Easy to use, picture perfect. I don't think it was regulation at the time. That wasn't part of like an officer's loadout

was a camera, you know? They're pretty stacked already with like the nightstick. But there was other people, there was like a family. But there was a priest. And a priest. In those robes, those things don't even have pockets. He's already holding onto his wallet and his keys. So this way you got a strap for the camera, you put it around your neck.

No, because the strap would interfere with the little thing that they have. The little thing that they have. What are you talking about? The little thing that priests have, the white collar. I? The little thing that priests have. The white collar. I don't remember what that's called. Yeah. The holy tie. I can't remember what it's called.

Yeah. Anyway. So I'm just saying, don't be disappointed if we don't have photo evidence today. So you're saying, you're saying, listen here. If we don't have photo evidence it's because the priest's little collar would have gotten the way. Hey, mother f***er. All right.

Hey, cool. All I'm going to say is, look, when the entity comes for your child, you won't be reaching for your camera You'll be reaching for your daughter's ankles It's been 10 days And if you came to me and said It's been like a week and a half A night beast tried to grab my daughter, I wouldn't say, where's the photos?

Where's the photos then if the night beast came for your daughter Cora? It's just like, yeah I don't know That'd be kind of rude of me actually and say, where's the photos? Where's the photos then if the night beast came for your daughter Cora? Yeah. You know? That even kind of rude of me actually. If you tell me that there's like five people floating on the sofa like turbo turrs, and there's a bunch of witnesses that's been going on for like a week and a half, I don't know.

An old lady fainted, cause she was flying through the air on a lazy boy. Yes, look, don't, there might not be a lot of photos today. I do have some other exciting evidence. Maybe I shouldn't have shit on the Enfield haunting so quickly. It was slow to get going, but they did have photos. The photos of that case are so shit. I hate that that's the case that is, like, one of the most famous Poltergeist stories.

Because I think we investigated, we were like, it's obviously a double no. The children made it up. The photos of them floating through the air are just like children jumping off a bed and getting their photos taken. Like it's so it's not good. It's not. There's a ton of better hauntings out there in the world, including this one that you're hearing today. Really, really remains to be seen, but let's keep going. Eventually, police were able to deduce that the young boy seemed to be at the heart of the poltergeist activity.

Classic. For example, when the 11-year-old walked through the apartment, pictures on the wall, quote, swayed in the same manner as a dog wagging its tail when it's happy to see its master. And I know that this does sound insane, but this is what the officers and the priest and the family said. And I can back that up because, kid, I actually have a copy of a police report filed by Bill about what he witnessed in the house that day. Okay.

Check this out. Okay, I am looking. Okay, February 10th 1970 it's a bit fudged. Yeah, February 10th 1970 237 Church Street. This is cool This is cool item is not for press too late for that. I attended I attend a good start spelled wrong I attend to this residence at the a.m. Time. That's how they say it in Canada. I Attendee this residence at the AM time. That's how they say it in Canada. I attendee this residence. And then block capitals while I was there I witnessed some paranormal occurrences

which I've attached to this report. I proceeded to the residence with PC Crawford where we again witnessed some very unusual things taking place. My only solution to these occurrences that the boy Peter, whom all the occurrences surround, has been inhabited by a spirit. This is a real police report. Of Poltergeist. There's a word that I can't make out.

I assume because this is a typewriter, there's just like, you make mistakes and you can't go back and fix them. It's yeah, and it's quick as well. It's like short, shorthand. This is a typewriter there's just like you make mistakes and you can't go back and fix it. It's yeah and it's quick as well it's like short short hand. This is a spirit he goes on which inhabits the body of a young child about to enter the phase of quote puberty. Real kind of subtext there that the boy is like yeah he calls it puberty I've yet to see a single pub anyway moving on. And has been described as a mischievous spirit that does not generally seriously harm anyone. People who have witnessed these occurrences

are PCs where Crawford, McNamann, College, and other PCs have attended. Okay, so she's like a bunch of witnesses. There's a lot of witnesses. Briefly, this boy can't sit on a chair without being thrown off. And items are hitting him for no apparent reason. Okay, so it is hurting a child.

I think they just said it didn't hurt anyone. I, the writer, witnessed the boy being thrown on at least a dozen occasions, including while I was there with PC Crawford. Attached is detailed report and witnesses' names. I mean, very big claims. Yeah. I like, let me just say before we sign off, I like it mentions here at the top,

along with the date and so on, it says, time of incident, 7 p.m., still going. I might be wrong, Kit, but this feels like one of the first times we've ever had an actual police report used as evidence in a paranormal story where it's... you can read it kind of verbatim, what the officer saw on the day. Yeah. I suppose this stuff isn't released to the public.

Yeah, probably takes a certain amount of distance from the case and time for it to be made public. But we're lucky with this one. I mean, what's wild is, as you saw at the bottom of it, by the end, there was like five or six policemen who had come to the house and witnessed paranormal activity. Yeah, it feels pretty unequivocal what they believe they saw, for sure. I mean, he mentions seeing the boy being tossed a dozen times, at least. He mentions seeing the boy being tossed a dozen times at least. Which is... He said he struggles to sit on a chair for more than a second.

Without being thrown and items are hitting him for no quote apparent reason. Yeah. So, you know, sometimes these are the barriers to proving a paranormal case, okay? We've, you know, okay, at the top end, we've got the kind of absolute objective proof that something happened. We're talking primary evidence, physical evidence, things like that. But below that, there's kind of a secondary and yet important bar of paranormal evidence,

which is that the people involved at least believe what they saw. Now that sounds simple or trite, but that is actually not a given, given how many hoaxes take place every day around the world. Simply getting to this point is pretty interesting when we've got a handful of witnesses who all sign off on the same thing, they clearly believe what they saw. That's where we now find ourselves. It's up to us to now go the distance, see if we can prove that

it actually happened. Yeah, I say me, this is your fault. This is your problem. It's not my fault, it's a problem. It's your problem to solve it. I've got all the evidence here. Well, the evidence available, because I don't think there were any photographs, because as I said, a child was being thrown about the room like a boomerang. Yeah.

So there was no time to take any photos of it. They didn't even have the time to write a report, though, didn't even have sport mode on the camera. The aperture wouldn't even be able to capture the movement of that child. He was like an F1 fighter jet being thrown down the stairs. He sat down at a typewriter and wrote up all of these. Afterwards, this was at 7pm they wrote the report and guess what? It's still going. Still going.

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It's like having that one friend who always knows what you're talking about. Learn more about the Google Pixel 9 at store.google.com. But yes, look, I know we don't have photographs from the case today that I can whip out on the podcast, but what I do have along with the copy of the police report is interview footage with two of the police officers that witnessed these paranormal events. I'm going to need to see an injured boy. I'm going to need to see a boy and I need to see him ideally in a hospital bed

with every arm and leg in a cast. The full body cast. Neck brace, yeah. All right, check this out. I was serving as a police officer for the city of St. Catharines, and heard other officers who I knew quite well discussing the fact that they'd been sent to a house

where they had seen furniture moving without any assistance. We went there, we were standing in the doorway of the livery, and the mother's over here, and my partner, and sitting right across was a priest who looked like he had a white collar and a nun, and the boy came in, he sat in this chair right beside me. And while I was talking to the mother, this chair just all of a sudden lifted in the air and threw this child across the room. But at the same time, I could see the priest go and the nun go. Don't laugh.

Don't laugh. And you know, you just feel... A funny feeling come over you when you see this. Don't laugh! Definitely don't laugh. He's like reminiscing about it. He's like, yeah, yeah, and oh man, the kid f***ing ate it. I mean, they threw him again. I think he went through the drywall. It was so hard. And the priest is doing the motions, you know.

We all thought we were gonna die. It's actually no funny when I think back. We were fine in the end. Kid's gone obviously. He got obliterated the next day but they dropped a bowling trophy on his head. Yeah I guess it's a little funny that the boys are floating through the air and instead of trying to as you say grab his ankles, yeah the priest and the nun just are blessing themselves. Yeah. That's kind of worrying if you invite a priest over and something paranormal happens and you're like, Oh my God, that's crazy. Father should we?

And he's already like made himself a little salt circle on the ground, it's like just big enough for him. He's got like a crucifix out and they're like, Oh father, should we get in that? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I was, I was just doing mine first and then I was going to do one for everyone else. But, um, yeah, just obviously want to make sure I'm safe. And then I can make sure everyone else is safe because cause they'll go for the priest first because they know if they go for the priest first, then he's, then you guys are exposed. So that's why I actually need more salt than everyone.

This is important. Yeah. I mean, I like to think that like with any job, there's perks of the job. Maybe you could get a veteran's discount somewhere or you get free healthcare with some jobs. I like to think that at least the perk of being a priest is in a situation like this, you can just kind of get kind of extracted

like a military operative. Right, right. You just kind of, you just, just straight up into the sky. If kind of shit hits the fan, you know what I mean? The big guy's got your back. You have a team of bishops or something that like, like SEAL team, they kind of crash through the windows

and escort you out of there. That seems like that could work probably pretty well. Now all of this might seem crazy, but when you file a police report like this people do take it seriously. Before long police officers, photographers and more were on the scene. Apparently at one point the local news caught wind of the events creating even more chaos. Members of the family couldn't even leave the house without getting badgered by reporters. I guess it's a small town.

We've seen what happens in these paranormal cases. Spreads like wildfire. And everyone wants to be the first ones to get a picture of the ghost. For America's funniest paranormal videos. And it's hard enough being an 11 year old boy, you know, trying to fit in, navigate puberty, talk to girls, all these things, without also being possessed or bullied. You know, you're worried about being bullied for not wearing the right vans shoes, let alone being bullied by demons.

Yeah, yeah. Especially if there's press outside your house taking photos, you know? We've all had that before where like someone takes a bad photo of you. And you're like, can you delete that please? Like, I don't know, it's not like a good side of me. I look gross in it. I don't like it. Imagine the press taking a photo where you are being held upside down and shaken for your lunch money by a demon and your shirt's up.

So like your belly and nips are out. That's running on the front page of newspapers. The demon pantsed you to do the thing where it pulled down your pants, you know, right when everyone was taking photos. You're so tired and stressed, you just go to sit down and relax and you are launched like a catapult across the room. Pinwheeling across the street, everyone's taking photos of you. Yeah, it's not going to be great. Not a great way to raise a kid. I read on one website that apparently, at one point, a reporter from the National Enquirer

attempted to gain access to the house by disguising herself as a nun. Oh, hey smart stuff. That's pretty dark. Cause what happens if you just happen to be the only nun in there and paranormal shit starts kicking off? And they're like, oh don't worry everyone! Like there's like a swirling vortex of darkness and it's like, oh my god, we're so lucky that we have a nun here with us! And she's like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, let me just, I'll just rattle off a couple of holy words. Bethlehem, little donkey, he was one of the guys right at the

birth. Oh, f***. Well, I shouldn't swear, right? Nones don't do that and I am a nun. A quick prayer, sister. Sure. Our Father who fart in heaven, hallowed be thy name. I can't remember. I was talking to a friend recently who we were talking about the amount of times you didn't realize you were singing the wrong lyrics to a song. Okay. And he said he had a friend who for an embarrassingly long time thought the quote unquote lyrics to the Lord's prayer were our father who art in heaven. Harold be thy name.

I was like, you thought the Lord's name was Harold? And that was part of the prayer. It's an okay name. Yeah. It's like our Lord who art in heaven, Harold be thy name, of course. Shout out to you, Harold in the sky, the big Harold in the sky. But none says that, kick them out. They're working for the other team. They're trying to trick you.

I remember learning what God's name was, only by watching Indiana Jones. Oh yeah, he has like a, well he has a name in certain language, right? Yeah, right? Yeah, do you remember what it is? It's Yahweh. Yahweh? Because isn't that like, Harrison Ford is having to like solve these riddles, you know, like when he walks across the invisible bridge and all

these things. But I think that was one of the, yeah, that's pretty, that's a cool little secret to whip out. Yahweh is the most commonly accepted English form of the Tetragrammaton, the four letter Hebrew name of God in the Hebrew Bible. Oh, hell yeah. Y-H-W-H. It's the name that God revealed to Moses in Exodus, meaning I will be who I will be or I am. Oh, that's cool. While Yahweh is a transliteration, some English translations just use Lord to maintain the

Jewish tradition of not pronouncing the name aloud. Oh, I see. Keep it like Voldemort. Very much like Voldemort. Don't say that shit. Yeah. He who shall not be named.

So it is like, you know, I like that Indiana Jones had to do a little pub quiz question to get across, get across the tomb. But a good bit of trivia. Things got so bad at the house that eventually Bill Weir himself had to threaten the press with incarceration if they didn't back off. And believe it or not, the poltergeist activity did eventually stop. Because the officers strongly believed that the activity was linked to the kid, they advised the family let him leave the house and stay with a relative. Once he did, apparently the hauntings stopped.

Yeah, can't be too satisfied with that conclusion though, you know what I mean? Right, do we really solve this? Yeah. Feels like the demon is very much still around. Still here, yeah. Yeah, as soon as another little boy comes in. It's kind of like if the place is just lousy with roaches. Yeah.

And it's like, the roaches just love the boy. Let the boy go live somewhere else. And then, and then it's like, oh, there you go. They've just, they've, they've gone away. We don't see them anymore. Alright, here's the bill, and we're all set. It's like, okay. I still feel like they're just in the walls though. Right! I feel like either there's roaches still on the walls or anywhere the boy goes, there will be roaches. So I don't really know what to do about that.

Yeah. I mean, it's the age old poltergeist question, you know, is the boy a demon? Right. What do you do? You know, is, yeah, like, is it a, is he still going to be a problem? Yeah. I don't mean to victim blame here, but he's just going to follow him around. Absolutely. Yeah. If anything, I think if the haunting stops, you at least know that you should maybe direct your attention towards the child, not the house. So that means, you know, throw the kitchen sink at the kid, which not literally might hurt him because he's

been thrown at the kitchen sink multiple times, but, uh, you know, try some holy water, baptize him a second time, maybe three times, because I don't know if you get baptized again, does that undo it? We need to, if we haven't done this already, like a vasectomy, you can get it undone. We also have, hasn't been done yet, need to get him dressed up like a ice hockey goalie, like just full padded everything. Yeah, yeah, because he's not long for this world if they keep throwing him around like a rag doll. Yeah, yeah, because he's not long for this world if they keep throwing him around like a rag doll Yeah, I think that's probably the best move to be fair the the family

Refused to comment when people have tried to research this story I don't even think they know where the kid went in the end. Hopefully it wasn't the nightmare realm And he's still living happily on this earth Hilariously enough once the family moved out, the building later became home to Pete's Pizzeria. Oh. That's right, the number one pizza joint on St. Catherine Street, Ontario. Interesting. Were the slices haunted? I don't know. All I know is I looked it up on Google Maps and the pizza place isn't there anymore. Ghost pizza. Yeah, so I don't know what happened to it. Piz Pizaria does sound like a fictional restaurant we would make on this podcast.

Do you think Piz is spelled P-I-Z? Piz Pizaria. Piz Pizaria. It's got real Stevie's DVD vibe. Okay, Piz Pizaria. What? Piz Pizaria. Are you stuttering while you're saying the name? Yeah. Like Pizzeria. It's like no, it's Pizzeria. I can see why they didn't last long. It's like it's the only slice that can dunk itself in the dip. You open the box and the pieces just float about the living room.

As I said, the Pizzeria does no longer exist and I am very excited to say that as far as I can tell, Kit, right now the building is on sale for the measly price of one million Canadian dollars. Okay, I'm not an economist but I think I have less money than that. Yeah, should I look? I actually don't know the conversion rate for the Canadian dollar currently. Yeah, I will say paranormal properties that we've seen for sale. I mean, we notoriously looked at a haunted, desolate cowboy village in the California desert, which I think at the time was on sale for a low, low price of about $400,000 US dollars. Or this one at a million Canadian dollars.

This is more, I'll let you know now. Paranormal location is never as cheap as you want them to be. Yeah. You think they're going to be a steal on account of all the misery and deprivation over the years, but actually they hold their market value pretty well. Yes, especially because I think this is just a still functioning retail unit of multiple floors and many bathrooms and bedrooms. You could do a lot of stuff with this, which is why it is coming in at the price of just

over $700,000. US dollars. US dollars. Which is... That's a lot. 600,000 pounds or something. Yeah,000. US dollars. US dollars. Which is. That's a lot.

600,000 pounds or something. Yes, it's quite a lot of money. Okay. Maybe we'll buy the ghost town instead, the desert ghost town. I don't think we can afford Piz Pizzeria. I don't know if we can afford the ghost town either. But yeah, okay.

But at least we could, maybe they've still left the pizza oven there. Maybe we could, at least we could make some money off of our investment if we were to create TPL, this pizza life. This paranormal slice? Whoa. How about that? This paranormal slice!

Do people want a paranormal slice, though? Every pizza has ghost peppers on it. Okay. How about that? No, I don't know if people can really handle spice. The crust. I was really worried you were going to say every pizza has ectoplas peppers on it. How about that? No, I don't know if people can really handle spice. The crust. I was really worried you were going to say every pizza has ectoplasm on it. No, that would be gross and weird.

That, well, but we do that fun thing where they call it, you know, like every product is called something different. So, so we say like, oh, you want two bucks for a side of ectoplasm? That's what we call ranch dressing. That's the dip that I like that actually Garlic mayo. Yeah Do you would you like a little pepperoni on that and the pepperoni is called like? filth Night it's called like dirt dirt man. Why are you talking like that?

It's just cause I- It's called the pepperoni, it's called dirt man? It's just like weird shit. Cause it's like, it's all paranormal themed. So it's like, so you know, if you want like extra cheese, can I get like the four cheese pizza? Yeah. Every type of cheese will be one of the names

of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Cause it's like all four, do you want all four cheeses? Pestilence, plague, famine, night, dirt man. Stop talking like that. Is you pitching to the bank manager for a loan? So pestilence is what we call gorgonzola. Plague is mozzarella, of course. He's left the room.

You're just talking to a wall. Pestilence. Pestilence. Obviously pestilence would be pesto, by the way. If you're going to have basil pesto, that would be pesto. Pesto lens. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's a pretty good pesto lens. Yeah, I like that. I like that.

It's pretty good. No one's going to buy that. It's a paranormal slice. But it's delicious pizza. That's the point is that it's got weird names, but it is a good pizza. Yeah. Sorry. The ranch dip would be called Skinwalker Ranch.

Ranch Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, that would be really good. And the corned beef would be like dirt. Is there evidence? Is there evidence for this case? Night dirt, we'd call it. Dirt man. No, you can't, if Debroni is dirt man,

you can't, it was night dirt. It's a special kind of soil that you only see at night. It's too close, the names are too close. It's a special kind of soil that you only see at night. It's too close. The names are too close. It's completely different. It's too close. It's completely different. Can I get a slice of the pestilence pie with night dirt on the side of Skinwalker Ranch?

That dirt man? That dirt man. Mercy. And we're gonna have some fun gimmick where it's like, it's like the pizzas are all delivered cold. You know? Why? Like a f*** corpse. Because it's like, you know how people say like, oh, if it's delivered, it's hot, fresh.

Coffin pizza boxes. And the pizza, cause you know, like Prince street pizza, It's like square. Oh, it's a coffin box. That's such a good idea. And like so and instead of being delivered like hot and fresh, ours is delivered old and cold. It's full of mold. Old, cold, full of mold with a side of Skinwalker Ranch and extra night dirt. How about that? This for slice. Get your pizza today.

Dirt man. Dirt man. I like this a lot. Maybe the delivery car could be like a hearse as well and the pizza's in the back. Kind of disrespectful but it would clear the roads for you. It's expensive production. I don't know

Or like does it taste good or like is the pizza good? It's delivered old and cold So you might have to actually cook it yourself. It might be just the raw dough We could do we could deliver it in like a Ghostbuster style Car you completely ignored me. Are we done? I'm gonna be cool. When's the evidence? Yeah, we're really done here. The evidence was... Hey, actually, don't ask for the evidence. You got the evidence. And the evidence was good.

A police report. It's fine. We got a photograph of a police report, and we got video interview footage of two of the police officers that were there on the scene. I would say that is substantially more than the majority of our cases. We have reached our conclusion. Got cases. We have reached our conclusion. We have reached our conclusion. And it is not to decide whether or not this paranormal slice is a good business venture.

It is to decide whether or not this haunting happened. The haunting on Church Street, the St. Catherine's Poltergeist. Kit, what do you think about today's story? Um, I gotta be honest. I am f***ed with it. Low-key heavy, for real, for real. Yeah, me too. Because, surprisingly, like I know we harp on about how ghost cases, you know,

have a high barrier to evidence. That's often why we don't give them yeses, but call me naive, call me a dreamer, call me a bitch. But I wanna believe in people. Yeah. In humans in this f***ed up universe of ours. Can we get some motivational music underneath this speech? I think he's really gonna tackle something.

I was actually done, but I can keep going. Alright. Yeah. Please. Yeah. Alright, play the music. Because we're born. We're pissed out into this world. Hell yeah. Out of a friggin' box, am I right guys? And we don't know what's real.

We don't know what's up, what's down, what's left, and what's right. Yeah, as a baby I guess. We try to do our best. Yeah, you're getting further- okay. We try to do our best, and sometimes we f*** it up. And yeah. Did I accelerate into that crowd of people because I was looking at my phone and- I served my time. That's the thing.

Okay. I served my time. Maybe we cut the music here. And that's the thing. This isn't what I thought it was going to be. People can be good. That's what I learned. I was a bad person. But I'm good now. Did you say you accelerated?

Because you were looking at your phone? I thought I had to. There's no point getting into the details. I thought I was overtaking. Anyway, it was a big thing. I think we can maybe just keep it on the... I was sober. I was sober. By the way, the breathalyzer came out clean. So, all right.

So check the records. Can you pull up my police records? That would be great. Because I've never actually talked about this in the podcast. We're going to clear my name here and now. No, I don't have access to all the police records. I just have this single one. Don't you have a MacBook Pro? Yeah, wouldn't that be a pro feature?

Probably not. Police record? Absolutely not. Sorry, is the music still playing? I think, believing we can put it back on again. Let's believe in friggin' humans, alright? There we go. Because humans are capable of great stuff, alright?

Yeah. I read that they recently brought back wolves, or dire wolves. Gotta stop, you gotta stop. And mammoths, and wooly mammoths. We can achieve anything. And I think if we've learned anything today, it's that the people in this case, they should be believed,

whether it is the little boy, I never got his name. Peter. Peter. Yeah. Whether it's the rest of his family, whether it's the priest, whether it's their nuns, whether it's Bill, whether it's Bob, whether it's Bill and Ben, the flower pot men, a lot of people saw this.

And who am I? Who am I to say that they're all wrong? That they all saw none? Yeah. I think there could be something here. That's what I like. Well, I like a lot about this case, but I think this isn't just someone

claiming they saw something. It's not even just a couple of people claiming that they saw something. It is a whole squadron of policemen. It is priests, it is nuns, it's news reporters, it's the family. By the time Officer Crawford even gets to the place when we started our story, it's already been investigated multiple times. This is a well-known thing. And I think this case is so well documented and so well witnessed by so many different individuals I'm happy to give this case today a yes. Whoa wasn't gonna go that far Only kidding. It's a double. Yes

We caught a double yes on a poltergeist case Wow, holy shit. I don't even remember the last time that happened It's almost as if whenever I host a poltergeist case, it's a laughing stock and whenever Rory does it, it's a great idea. But cool. I don't know. I'm still psyched though. I'm still really psyched. I think I gave the last ghost case a yes too, and you gave it a no.

So maybe I've just been scared straight. Maybe 2025 is the year of Rory believing in ghosts. Cool. I think you're still yet to give one of my ghost cases a yes, so we'll see if that happens soon. Well, you gotta bring some better evidence to the table, my friend, because... Well, we didn't need any evidence today, as it turns out. We got police reports. Just a guy who said something happened, which I personally do believe, but, you know, I'm just saying I've brought photos to the podcast before, and you've just kind of stuck your nose up at them.

Hey, we got... Let's not fight! Let's not fight! Because, hey, if we're gonna be... I'm not fighting! Let's not... Bro, cool it.'m not fighting. Let's say let's not throw cool it. All right, dude. All right, take it down You're the one that's getting really worked out. Hey, cuz you go you want it you go you want it And if we're gonna be business partners in this paranormal slice Yeah, and I do like a lot of your ideas I think we do have to circle back to some of them though because they were getting a little bit messy between dirt man Night dirt is a little bit. Were there any ideas in particular that you liked?

That the pizza is delivered old? I just don't- That's kind of a cool idea. It feels, it sounds like work. You know what I mean? It's almost like aging whiskey. It costs like time and money to age pizza and it doesn't taste better. So just make it fresh.

Everyone universally likes fresh pizza. No, but that's, it needs to have like a strong gimmick to it. Cause gimmicks are really in now. Coffins is the gimmick. It needs to go viral Tik Tok. Yep. So you need to have like a bunch of, so I think even like we don't even place the pizza in the box. We slam it in there. So it's like smashed against the wall, like a crime scene. When you open up that pizza box, it's destroyed. Okay. It's almost like that cafe where they're rude to you. Yeah. Right. Our, our delivery person shows up and they've got a cafe where they're rude to you. Rude to you, yeah. Right.

Our delivery person shows up and they've got a gun. And they're like, they threaten you, they bully, they just, they pull apart your house, you know, as if they've got a search warrant. It's a whole like, 4D experience. Yeah, yeah. You open up the, we ring the doorbell, ding dong. We say, ah, pizza here, come on, get your pizza. You open the door and we throw it on the roof of your house like Walter

White in Breaking Bad It's like hey you want the pizza go get it anyway. I'm see you later Please tip though because that's the the owners the TPL guys. They don't they don't pay us much. Hey, we didn't say that Anyway, that's probably what they'll say because we're not gonna tip them much Big double yes. Woo! We got a double yes. Wow thank you so much to Tracy Verner for that suggestion over on the Facebook Secret Society. Of course if you want to submit your own case for us to investigate, I recommend you don't post it on the Facebook group, or Reddit, or send it into our Instagram DMs. I recommend you email it to us at thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. Well, sure, but you still did get it, didn't you?

I still did get it. You were very lucky, Tracy, and you're very lucky that I could be bothered to go back and give you credit, because it's very hard to keep track of these things unless people email it to us with suggestion somewhere, or or case or idea somewhere so we can find it and give people credit. So email us anything that you want us to investigate. Hope you enjoyed this week's episode. Look forward to the you know the announcement of this paranormal slice. Maybe you know if we're doing any live

shows this year we could start you know open if we're doing any live shows this year, we could start, you know, open up a little pizza stall beforehand. Yeah. Well, sell some slices. I am bankrupt. You're bankrupted. Last time we had a business venture. I have a couple CCJs in my name. You can't open a bank account in any, in any developed country anymore. But thankfully, I don't think we've started any half bakedbaked business venture since Phil's joined the company. So I think we put it all in Phil's name. That's right. We can open tomorrow.

That's actually not a bad idea. I don't know if Phil's even had a credit card before. We could honestly, we could max out. We could tank his f***ing credit bro. He's a clean slate. Yeah, we could. Yeah. In my defense, I thought my idea was gonna be a home run, honestly.

Listen to the title, the Gerbil Olympics. Who's not gonna want to invest in that? Yeah. You know, people want to tune in to watch that. How was I supposed to know that their little hands can't hold shit? You know, all they can really do is run. Should have done some research. Whatever happened to those gerbils? Well, many of them drowned because that was the first one was the triathlon and they sure the bike and the wheel and stuff they did really well but then the water one came and just some of them never made it to the other side. They did

well at the bike? Yeah weirdly well at the bike one. The wheel isn't an element of the triathlon I guess it's running. It's running idiot yeah. Alright f*** me for not knowing what the durable Olympics is. Well you clearly didn't watch the live stream so you should have known how badly that it went. All right. They staged a coup on day one of the ceremony. I lit the torch and they all panicked. And one of them bit me in the neck. I was bleeding out on the floor and they got out the window.

It's not a coup. And it was all captured on live stream. They made it out of the house in seven minutes. And the live stream went on for four days. Me bleeding out on the floor. Not one single person in the Twitch chat called the police to help. It was actually kind of like we were gonna swat him, but it ended up being unnecessary.

This is the best case scenario. We all get to watch him die in front of us live. Well, until we can open up this paranormal slice or get enough gerbils together to host another Olympics for 2025, could be like a winter Olympics. That'd be fun. Put them down a hill or something. Until then, the best way to support the show is over on Patreon. That is patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. Let me tell you guys, it's the place to be. If you want to support this show and you want to get some awesome cool extra rewards in

the process, this is where you do it. There is so much cool stuff that you can get over there, including bonus episodes, extra content, exclusive merchandise, and of course, the famous shout out at the end of the episode. Your own personal shout out, which is what we're going to do right now at the end of this podcast. So thank you to Timothy Rowland. Timothy Rowland was the mayor of Poland. I know that doesn't make sense because Poland's not a city. But he just declared it. He kind of, Halo 3, capture the flag style,

just showed up in a custom suit that was made out of the fabric of the Polish flag. Said, I'm the mayor. Super offensive. Lasted all of two seconds before he was rugby tackled off the kind of Warsaw City Hall kind of, there's a big plinth there. And he was beaten kind of mostly to a pulp.

But for a brief moment, I think that's recorded on Wikipedia somewhere. For a brief moment. He was the mayor. You can do that. I don't know if you know that, but kind of like in the Ottoman Empire or something, you can just declare you're running shit.

You can just declare that you're doing that is that what a usurp is maybe yeah that's a cool word yeah Timothy only had one kind of plan in his manifesto and that was to keep on rolling Timothy said to keep on rolling with the good times and the bad we just keep on kind of work yeah Poland it's time to keep on Rowland. Yeah, I like it. Timothy, I hope your recovery is swift. No teeth left, yeah. He's done.

Thank you also to Dan Gallagher. Dan Gallagher did much the same thing, actually. Now we're thinking about it, but just in the region of Malaga. Malaga. Malaga? In Spain. Ah, how long did they last? How long did Dan last? Weeks, no

one noticed. Oh shit! It was the weirdest thing. He got just bored after a while to be honest. Wow. He kept like yelling it like, I'm the mayor guy! And like no one could speak in, like they all speak Spanish. Yeah, they're kind of partying as well. They just thought he was weird. Having a good time. Well Dan, Dan, if you need an official caterer for the inauguration, this paranormal slice would be very interested. Well, damn, Dan, if you need an official caterer for the inauguration, this paranormal slice would be very interested. Ooh, okay, our first corporate booking. How would you like old pizza served foul?

At least Spanish people, of course, love pizza, like every nation. It's not their specialty, so there might be a gap in the market. Maybe that's what we do. We'll open branches in all the countries that don't eat pizza. Right, and tell them this is what it tastes like. Finland. Yeah, yeah, they won't even know. Democratic Republic of Congo. Just random kind of countries that aren't famous for pizza. You just know we would set up there, and they're like, we have a Pizza Hut. Domino's is a worldwide chain. There's one down the street. We're like, oh shit. Yeah, is that crazy to say? Do you think pizza is overdone at this point? Is that possible? No, no, I don't think I think there's still alright. It's plan B burritos. Oh, I like it this

Paranormal, no, we can't I can't yeah, I can't think of it. Yeah, I can't think of it. Sorry, we'll come back with another business plan next week. Thank you to Eric Manley. Eric Manley. Hard to live up to that name, man. Holy shit. Dude, you come straight into the commune.

You can go straight up to district five or six, bypass some of those other ones. Because that implies that you can lift heavy shit, and we really do need a lot of people who can do that. So, you will not be treated well, Eric. You will really be put to work almost immediately. But, you know, you're a tough dude. You can take it. Eric Manley. Yeah. You know what? Why don't you actually just skip right up to, I normally wouldn't say this, but...

District 4 Because Districts 5 & 6 have been poison lately. Yeah, there's a poison issue. Mm-hmm So we can just don't tell that to anyone by the way, but just you just jump through like yeah They're goners. Honestly, whoever's in District 5 & 6 are goners. Um Kind of a biohazard. It's a long story and it's spreading by the day. It's the night dirt. It's the manufacture of the night dirt. It's been experimental, there's problems. It is incredibly addictive. Once you kind of get a taste of night dirt, it's all your body wants.

And it's so nutritionally absent that you will eat and eat until your body sort of wastes away. Yeah, it's kind of how like 18th century sailors would die of eating rabbit because there's no nutrients in rabbit meat. Right. So you jump right forward to District 4. Don't eat the dirt on the way

because it's going to smell good. And, but of course, once we figure it all out, you can move back to District 5. Eat all the dirt you want between you and me once we're done with you. it'll be great, Eric. And thank you, finally, today, to Maria Martin. Maria Martin, how'd you like to be a Martian? Because I'm working on a little thing called the

Gerbil Olympics in 2025. Pray tell. Part of that is going to be launching them into space. Okay. I want that to be zero gravity. I want there to be a zero gravity aspect to it. I don't know what the event's going to be yet, but they're going to need a babysitter. They need someone to look after them. So Ray, if you're interested.

You couldn't keep control of them on Earth. How are you going to do it in space? That's why I need them in space. That's why I need them in space that's why I need them in space so they can't escape you know they'll be in zero gravity they'll be flying around you should be banned from buying gerbils probably yeah but who's gonna stop me Maria freeze the gerbils no Maria by your throat again really let me know if you be interested even in any admin at all, in the Gerbal Olympics.

There are many roles open. So please let me know. Thank you to Maria, thank you to everyone who supports us over on Patreon. We really couldn't make this show without you. It's your support. That means we get to create this show every week. And we get to pursue the elusive double yes, which we managed to secure today on the podcast. I kinda can't believe it. Don't remember the last time we gave a double yes

to a poltergeist case, but I love it. Just goes to show, no suggestion is a bad one. Keep them coming. Email them over to thisparanormallifepodcast.gmail.com. Kit and I have a lot to work on. Lot of business ventures coming up, the Gerbil Olympics and this paranormal slice. If someone could design us a logo, that would be great. Love to share that online. We'd really appreciate that because obviously we

just don't have the capital right now to pay any graphic designers. But we will pay you back in pizza. How about that? As long as you're fine with it being old and cold. That should be the cool thing we do for the live show is like, we'll have like the live show but then before the live show if you want you can come to the pizza dinner and we'll have this paranormal slices that we can offer people as like a little treat. Interesting. That's cool.

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