This Paranormal Life - Alien Elves and Finland’s Most Famous UFO - The Imjärvi Incident

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

In 1970 two friends and skiers Aarno and Esko were traversing the frozen wilderness of Southern Finland when they had a close encounter of the third kind (CE3), experiencing a never-before-seen type of alien carrying a box, but let’s just say it didn’t come bearing gifts… But what happened after their encounter? Was there physical evidence of the UFO landing? And why is this case considered so believable? Time for Rory and Kit to investigate. Become a commune member to get access to bonus episodes: https://thisparanormallife.com Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join our Secret Society Facebook Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Official TPL Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Edited by Philip Shacklady Researched by Ewen Friers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Did you know there are over 3 million saunas in Finland? That's about one per household for the entire population. Did you also know that Finns drink more coffee per person on average than any other country in the world? But also did you know that in the late 60s and very early 70s there was a huge rise in UFO sightings across Finland. So in 1970 when Arno Henonen and friend Escovillo banged on Arno's mother's door one in January evening, she knew immediately that something strange had happened to the pair out in

the wilderness of southern Finland. They talked of a strange craft of an encounter, and they seemed visibly altered in some way. But what had they seen out there? Why is this case considered one of the most compelling UFO sightings ever documented? And does having hay fever mean I'm allergic to earth and I'm not actually from here? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This paranormal life Hello and welcome back to this paranormal life The Weekly Comedy Podcast

where every Tuesday you're joined by me, Kate Greer, this guy, Mr. Rory Powers and we get to the bottom of a different paranormal case deciding whether we think it's real or not. How you doing today, Rory? It sounds like today we're heading to a great corner of the world, Finland. Ooh.

You know, I'm in tune, I'm ready. I talked about it on the after party just a few weeks ago about my recent trip to the the saunas here in East London, which is obviously a big thing in Finnish culture, to the point where they offered Finnish long drink as one of the drinks you could have while you're in the saunas. Very cool. Yes. Unfortunately, I did also mention on the after party how, while attempting to cool down after the sauna, I did an ice bucket plunge where I pulled on a cord and water

in an enormous bucket, dripped, splashed all the way down my back. and accidentally ripped off my swim shorts, pulling them down to my ankles. Accidentally. Showing everything. Trying to give a free show to some of the other patrons as I was like. These aren't private saunas. It was a busy hour.

It was, but yeah. What noise did you make? Can we get a little preview? Oh. My trunks. I will say, like, not many countries get to give us great a gift to humanity as Finland and its saunas. I mean, America gave us like rock and roll kind of.

And the hot dog. Ireland has given us depression. But Finland, the sauna culture? I mean, really, that's something. I mean, the other countries did have to slightly augment sauna culture and say, we ain't doing all the naked stuff guys. Yeah. But we'll do the sitting in a hot room.

Apparently, I tried to bring the naked stuff here to the UK. People weren't into it. Right. The Finnish guy at the sauna go really excited when he saw you stripping off. He was like, oh, it's that kind of place, is it? Oh, what region are you from, yeah? But Finland's treasures don't start an end with sauna culture and long drink. Or the Rasmus.

They also include today's investigation, which we are going to dive right into. Quick reminder, you've got to head over to This paranormallife.com. If you want to become a member of the commune, in return, you can get many, many bonus episodes, weekly after-party episodes, monthly bonus investigations. So if you can't get enough this paranormal life, that's the place to go. The link is in the description of this podcast. Head on over there. Also, we started announcing last week. We are very, very excited to say that we are doing our only live show of 2026 this October, Sunday 11th of October.

We're bringing our new show, This Paranormal Life. We bought a time machine. Wow. To London at the Clapham Grand Sunday 11th of October. It's going to be a huge day. We're going to have a crazy after party afterwards. is going to be nuts, and the tickets go on sale. The general sale starts tomorrow, Wednesday 13th of May, depending when you're listening to this.

But as of right now, on Tuesday 12th of May, the pre-sale is still active. And the only place to get access is becoming a member at This Paranormal Life.com. Go ahead and check it out. It's January 7, 1970. Arno-Hanon, age 38, and friend Escobillo, age 36, are in the forests around the small village of Imjavie in rural Finland, around 4.45 p.m. in the afternoon. Is that specific enough for you? That's pretty good, yeah. It's minus 17 degrees centigrade. But they're actually out in the cold by choice, cross-country skiing in the early evening. It's a still, clear and windless evening,

and the pair ski down a small incline where they find themselves in a forest clearing, and they stop for a moment. Ah, beautiful conditions, ASCO. Oh, some of the best I've ever seen are no. But hey, you know what else is beautiful? Mm, sauna? Yes, exactly. Sauna. That's what I was about to say. Nothing beats it. I love a nice sauna, followed by five cups of coffee? Oh, completely. Honestly, I don't know if this just crudely slots me into a cheap national stereotype, but seriously, I really, really love sauna and coffee. Me too. You see the best thing about sauna and coffee is... What's that noise? The conversation was interrupted by a strange buzzing sound, gradually getting louder. The sound was accompanied by a strange light in the sky that approached them from the north.

As this bright shape got closer, the buzzing predictably got louder. As the bright shape got closer, I hope you're sitting down, the sound got louder. Right, right, we know this from bees. The light made a last minute sweep and came around towards them from the opposite direction. Now approaching from the south, they could see the light was coming from what looked like a small cloud or patch of mist. Whoa, whoa, that's kind of scary.

It descended slowly into the glade in front of them and hovered about 10 feet above the ground. Gradually, a shape from within the puff of cloud became visible. Nah! A metallic craft, round with a flat bottom, could be seen within the mist. The craft slowly moved towards the men. Arno would later report in detail, quote, The round craft hovered a while completely motionless above us, while the buzzing sound could still be heard quite low. Then the huge disc began to descend, along with the red-grey fog, which became more thin and transparent. It stopped at a height of a height,

of three to four meters, so near I could have touched it if I reached out with my ski stick. Whoa. That is close. He goes on, the craft was completely round. When it came down towards us, we saw it had a dome on the upper side, and along the lower edge was a kind of raised part where there were three spheres or domes spaced equidistently. Okay, that's kind of a confusing description. I'm hoping that there is a diagram today.

Right now I'm thinking sort of Mickey Mouse logo. From the center of the bottom projected a tube. The Finnish people are very detailed, very detail-oriented people's. You could have just said orb and I would have been fine. From the center of the... Rory's American, he's like, please describe this in terms of hamburgers. I need this explained in terms of barbecue items. From the center of the bottom projected a tube, approximately 25 centimeters in diameter,

from which came an intense beam of light. I don't think we said anything to each other at all. We were completely amazed. The light moved a couple times before stopping and intensely illuminating a patch of snow. Rory, what are you doing in this situation? We're stopping here. Well, I wanted to bring up... We could hear the slow buzz of the death beam being charged to full capacity.

Roy, what are you doing in this situation? Running! Shout out to our sponsors at BetterHell.com. No. We're a cliffhanger, Roy. What? What? Well, I thought, you know, look, you're a snowboarder.

You're you find yourself on the slopes. Sure. Full bottle of wine deep after seven hours on the slopes. A couple. You're dehydrated, sunburnt, full of natural wine. Find yourself on the slopes. Do you think this is related to the apra ski? It's hard to say.

You know, I do see similarities between this case and my case. I too end my snowboarding excursion with a sore ass, as I assume these two gentlemen will in just a moment. But yours is because you fell over on the slopes. You're saying theirs could be cruising for a probate. I just heard there's a pipe coming out of this thing. Is that what I said? That is what I said, actually. Yeah.

In this situation, I'm pointing those skis downhill and I am not stopping to pizza. I'm going straight. You're French frying all the way down the mountain. 100%. That's quite a good shout because normally in like UFO encounters, you are very limited by how fast you can get away. Yeah. Whereas right now they're on, they're just on a sheet of ice.

If they just want to go, they can go. Yeah. I want to know what this craft is doing with the light. Well, Rory, we are going to get there. But first, I want to say at least what the men have seen so far, they aren't the only ones to witness. Granted, other witnesses weren't as close as Arno and Esco, and they didn't see the craft itself,

but the strange light phenomena was reported. One report describes, A farmer's wife, Elna Sittari, in Payaarvi, about 15 kilometers from Imyarvi, was on her way to the cowhouse when she saw a strange light in the direction of Imyarvi. in another town Paso

as in past the passo 10 kilometers north of him Yardvi I don't need to know how far away each town is in direction to the other town I don't know what it is

son of our household had gone out for firewood when he observed a light phenomenon it was then also 445 PM so we've corroborated the thing

The thing they saw, the light and the at the exact same time. So we're definitely talking about the same thing. In Elrardo, only two kilometers from Melardo. I don't know what that means. None of these words mean anything to me. You can just tell me about the witnesses. A man called Yevin, that sounds a little bit like Kevin. It doesn't matter.

It's the most like central European thing to like be really obsessed with describing everything. in like the metric units of kilometers. Yeah. It's like, oh, well, you understand. This town was a three, four kilometer away. And Paso, well, he's 180 centimeters tall, so he was a little taller than Arno. It's like, oh my God.

Tell me more about the smoke craft that presumably abducted your friend. Now, a strange mist, weird sounds to go along with it, and a full-scale hovering metal craft, complete with light beams. We've done full episodes on less, but excitingly we're only getting started. Let's go. Let's go.

The men stared at the craft completely transfixed when Arno felt a strange sensation. He described how he felt as though an invisible force was pulling him from behind. So interesting, he's not getting pulled towards the thing. He's getting yanked backwards, just as he saw a creature appear under the craft. Oh shit! Now of course, normally on this paranormal life, I'm making up deep. details, but we don't have to today, because thankfully the Gothenburg UFO Information Center collected extensive detailed statements from these two men. So let's let Arno describe what he saw

in his own words. Okay. Statements are great, but did they also collect the bones of the little man that went down there? Well, they're not savages. They didn't kill him. Oh, so he's alive. He's alive in the cage. He's in a jar. That's what I like to hear. Phil, show me the little man in the cage. That's not how it works. No, you can't, you can't pick up the evidence phone from my case. Because you don't know what's... Show me the guy in the cage. Phil, show me the bones of the little man in the cage. I didn't realize there is a photo.

I'm like, what? Phil finds it. What the fuck? His video. He's like, shaking the cage. The creature was about 90 centimeters tall. Again, with the fucking centimeters.

With very thin arms and legs. Its face was pale like wax. I didn't notice the eyes. but the nose was very strange. It was a hook rather than a nose. The ears were very small and narrowed towards the head. The creature wore some kind of overall in a light green material.

On its feet were boots of a darker green color which stretched above the knees. Okay. It does sound a little like one of Santa's elves, but we'll keep moving. Yeah, yeah, sure. The being appeared to be. be holding something. He says,

It was standing in the middle of the light beam with a black box in its hands. Out of a round opening in the box there came a yellow light pulsating. There were also white gauntlets going up to the elbows. What the hell?

And the fingers were bent like claws around the black box. Maybe that was just the best human disguise they could pull off. Right. It's still to us horrifying. But they're They were like, bro, you don't even want to see what I look like without my human disguise on. We're sort of getting to some interpretations.

Phil, could you please queue up the first piece of evidence? This is an artist's interpretation of the events of the day. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, you did ask for at least an artist's interpretation of the craft. Yeah, I'm really glad I'm seeing this. Because it is just a classic UFO shape.

Yeah, they got kind of in the weeds of it. But yeah, sure, it's got a couple little domes underneath and stuff. But yeah. It's a flying saucer. It's a flying saucer. Yeah. With all, it couldn't be more textbook, actually. It's got the big hole in the bottom shooting the light beam down.

And there is a little guy standing in it, almost like a spotlight. Holding the black box. Yeah. What does he want to show them? I don't know. I don't like it. I don't like any of this. He kind of reminds me of a Sam, the Swamp Jester.

Mm-hmm. You know, just a very. strange outfit. Legitimately in that situation, I know we're being funny, but what are you doing? Are you like waiting around to see what happens? Or do you think are you, I think if I'm being honest, curiosity is getting the better of me, that I'm not fleeing. That's pretty brave.

But it's, well, it's stupid for sure. It's also a lie. It's absolutely a lie. I don't believe that for a second. Do you think? But I think the deer in the headlights kicks in to, I think the deer in the headlights thing, stops you from doing anything, which is a real thing,

because if you watch videos, which I've unfortunately seen on X.com, of like people seeing a tsunami coming on a beach. Right, right. They don't act like there's a tsunami coming. It took me three, four minutes to pull up my swim shorts at the sauna because I was just so stunned from the event that I was deer in the headlights.

Well, it's like, or a better and more tragic example is like, There's very iconic and fascinating photos of 9-11. There's a famous photo for anyone who's skateboards. The New York skateboarder legend Jason Dill, there's an iconic photo of Jason Dill, like posing, pointing at, you know, the explosion of 9-11. But there's many such photos like that, where people were like, huh, wonder what's happening there.

It's like the fear hadn't even kicked in yet. Yeah, but this is next level. This is beyond. A green man in a green suit with green boots There's a levitating... There's a levitating disc that's floated down... Probably incinerated the forest above you. Yeah, I would run.

The cylinder, this craft is doing Mongolian throat singing. That's fair. I haven't had Finnish long drink. Do you think... Finish long drink would make you see that. That. Enough of it. Absolutely. Okay. Well, in kind of answering my question, at least this pair of Esco and Arno, they must have been an extreme shock because they stated that they weren't really scared, just uneasy. The encounter lasted a few minutes and Esco also gave a description of the being, saying, quote,

this is interesting because we're getting, we're corroborating our sources here. Quote, The creature stood in the middle of the bright light and was luminous like phosphorus, but its face was very pale. Its shoulders were very thin and slanting, with thin arms like a child's. I did not think of the clothes, only noticing that they were greenish in color. On its head was a conical helmet shining like metal. The creature was less than one meter tall. Again, not the...

I know they're obsessed with the size of things. and metric units. But interesting that one said 90 centimeters tall, which is very small, a meter, you know, yeah, a meter and a third. And then, but this guy's saying it was actually less than a meter tall. Yeah. That is exceptionally like, like that.

Yeah, yeah. As we've established, these men were hardy, honest, maybe drunk, but outdoor types. And as we're about to see, they weren't especially gifted artists, but we do have eyewitness sketches. Great. This is what I want to see.

All right. Phil, cue up the next images. I don't know what you're laughing out. Oh, for f***ick sake. I said they weren't artists. This is, yeah, I got to. Who is that? I don't know how to describe this to our audience.

It is. It's a very simple drawing of a man's face. And he's wearing like a little elf hat, just like a little triangle hat. He is an elf. He's a little gnome. And his nose is just a penis, a flastic penis. Well, come on, no, I wouldn't say that. It is.

It's a little floppy hook nose. Like, Alf? I don't. Saying the words floppy hook nose, that should just be a phrase that makes us jump right to conclusions. No, come on. Look, let me lock in. Got to be serious. It's humanoid head, for sure, eyes, borderline eyebrows, nose and mouth.

And then these motherfuck look a little like cone head. You know, it is a cone hat. Yeah. Kind of an elf's hat, to be honest. I don't know what his head looks like underneath that, whether it is the shape of his head or whether that's just a hat. Anyway, let's move on from that. This is the kind of thing that if you were a paranormal investigator in this case,

you'd be like, look, we have artist's interpretations and we have statements from the witnesses and it's like, this is great, the case is coming together. Oh, and one more thing. Cherry on top, the witnesses themselves even drew what the little creature looked like. Perfect. Let me take a look at that. Scrumble it up immediately.

But that was the wizard. It doesn't matter. Forget that. Stupid, let's not talk about that anymore. It's a stick man with a dick. Let's turn our attention. There actually is more drawings unbelievably, but let's turn our attention just looking at this image to the box. Not a lot to go on.

It's kind of like a used box of Kleenex tissues. It's just like a box with a little hole in it. Yeah. But that's where the light's coming out of. And we have the lines of light. All right, Jesus Christ. Phil, next image, please. Oh, God, it's getting worse.

I know you can't see this guys, but it's getting worse. Well, the drawing's getting better, for one. I just mean the episode. Yeah, we've always. a full body shot here. Now of the guy standing holding the box. Same face. Weird little floppy dick nose. Pin hat. And I can see the boots and the gloves. He looks like a thunderbird. You're telling me you wouldn't kill this thing. He looks evil. He looks evil. He looks so evil. His eyes are unkind. There's a cruelty in him. And although I'm glad you mentioned the box

because I for some reason just blanked on the box for a second and I thought that was his belt and he was putting his hand on his He looks like a utility belt He's like a superhero and he's putting his hand on his hips Yeah

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We can get full video episodes Just in case you're not seeing the video right now All right we got the description of what it looks like. We've got to move on. ESCO continued to describe the events of the day. They said, suddenly, it turned and directed the opening of the box

towards Arnhem. That's not good. You don't want to be on the business end of the box. The pulsating light was very bright, almost blinding. Suddenly a red-gray mist came flowing down from the object and large sparks started to fly from the circle of snow. The sparks were like tapers, I don't know what that means, about 10 centimetres long, red, green and violet.

They floated out in long curves rather slowly. Many of them hit me, but though I expected it to burn, I didn't feel anything. What? The sparks were shining in several colors. It was very beautiful. At the same time, the mist became thicker and hid the creature. It was so dense I couldn't see Arnaw, even though I knew he was standing only a few meters away from me. Suddenly the beam melted, flew up like a flickering flame and was sucked into the gap in the craft.

After that, it was as if the fog curtain was torn to pieces and the air above us was empty. The language here is a little difficult, and I assume this is because we were being translated from 1970s finish. Yeah. So apologies, we're having to read between the lines here. But it's a very descriptive explanation of what was happening. As quickly as the encounter had started, the whole thing. thing was over. Creature, lightbox, and craft all seemingly disappeared in an instant. They were dumbstruck and almost giddy. But as they started to regain composure, Arno began to feel a numbness in his left

side. Oh boy. You got boxed. You got hit with the box. Oh brother. You've got like six hours. It's like in 45 minutes your bones will be spaghetti. You'll be alive but it won't be good. I think they came down just to test the box to see what that does to living creatures. There's something so dark about just not knowing. Isn't there? It's like there's an author, Chris Ryan. I remember him telling a story of him hiking in India or something.

and like him camping out at night and he like stepped on a scorpion I think and he like didn't know what it meant and he like find he was like out in the wilderness and when he did find someone they had like broken English and he's like what is it what does it mean? I like am I going to be all right?

And they were like um was it big or was it small? And he was like, he was like a small one. It wasn't big. And they were like, just um enjoy your night tonight.

Just like just enjoy yourself. Just like say goodbye to people, you know? Yeah. It's like, oh man, the realization's setting in. Scary stuff, especially when it's something like a box, you don't even know what it is. It could be like, you know the way in like beauty labs? They'll just put lipstick on monkeys to see if it gives people lip cancer. Yeah.

You know, they just test all the makeup products. Maybe that was the aliens coming down and being like, hey, we're trying out this new box. Let's see what it does on a living creature And they just hit this poor son of a bitch with it He's now paralyzed from the left side And they're like, oh yeah, the new hair machine doesn't work Yeah, let's take it back

It's a state of the art hair dryer Yeah, that's all it was Dude, I know, I mean this is how we treat animals On our planet It's pretty grim With animal testing So maybe that's what they're doing to us It stands to reason

It does But hey, you know, you just use the sound with the box. Maybe it's just a little camera. Maybe he was getting a little snap. Although the numbness would tell us we're going somewhere quite dark, but Arnaud's legs almost immediately

gave out as they tried to ski away. Sure. I'm starting to think this isn't connected to the 16 glasses of wine at the Apre Ski. This is heavy stuff. We have seen many times on other episodes of this paranormal life that an encounter with an extraterrestrial craft or being can lead to serious physical effects on the body.

As we'll see, this story deals with that theme in the extreme. Because while today's case does have, as you've seen, very little photographic or video evidence of the craft itself, maybe it's evidence of the after effects that can be our kind of proof of today's story. Just like a brutal hangover is proof of drinking 13 stella's or tinidus proves you were at the Mogwai concert last night, Does Arno's mysterious condition prove this was an alien visitation?

We like to see it, it's unfortunate, but whenever we have someone who claims to have had an encounter with a UFO, you've got to look for what's left behind. If the craft isn't there anymore, how did it affect the ground, the vegetation, the people, the people who got boxed, you know? This is where you find your evidence. Do their nuts still work afterwards? You know, these kind of questions. Arno, Arno, get up, stop playing, Arno. Esco, this is no joke. My legs are totally numb, I can't move. Maybe you need a coffee.

Is it coffee? How much coffee have you had? It's not the damn coffee, Esco. It's the craft, the sparks, the beams. The little guy in his freaking pulsating light box. Now help me up. My mother's house is nearby. We can get help.

The pair struggled off through the forest to the small collection of houses nearby, where Mrs. Hainonen lived. Approximately three to four kilometers from the nearby town of Paleobey. No, I'm joking. Later, Arno's mother described how the pair were shaken. Escu's face was red and swollen. Ooh. And the immobile Arno was helped to the sofa.

Small detail in the story, but actually low-key, interesting that we have another witness to at least a panic afterwards. True, very true. Because moms don't tolerate. their son's bullshit. And they know about when a kid is pretending to be sick. Yeah. You know?

Even if the kid is 38 years old. Yeah, they always know. You know, it was extra hard for me growing up because pretending to be sick to get out of school is a very common thing. Everyone's done it in their life. But my mom was a nurse. Right. So that just made a little bit harder to pull a fast one on her.

Yeah. You know, you'd wake up and be like, oh, you know, I'm not feeling well because my my head is hurting. It's like, really? Your head's hurting. That's, that's unusual for a cold. Well, it's hurt, yeah, it hurts a little bit, but it's mostly my, my runny nose. It's like, oh, runny nose.

So, um, I heard you coughing earlier, and that would be a symptom. Oh, no, okay. Okay. Okay, yeah. She's like, oh, that's funny. Temperature's perfect. I just checked. 37.5, so I don't really.

Well, I just have this, this pain kind of in my chest. She's like unpacking a blood test, flicking a needle. All right, well, let's see what the problem is. All right, I'll go to school. I'll go to school. I'll go. Yeah, you're like, look, I'm going to come clean. Halo 2 just came out.

I want to stay home and play the campaign and need to unlock legendary by tonight or else Kit is going to beat me to it. She's like, oh yeah, you know, all of those symptoms are actually found in people who have become allergic to ice cream. Yeah, allergic to ice cream. So I'm so sorry that you're sick.

That means no more ice cream forever. And I'm like, really? I'm feeling a little better, I guess. Are you sure you don't want to check again? Do you remember from school, they would sometimes do a shout out for the kids who got through school with 100% attendance? Yes. Like seven years, no days off.

And it's like, that seemed cool at the time. In retrospect, that is full on child abuse. Absolutely. Two children were going to school with like broken legs dragging. Like, they were like Leo and the Revenant just like crawling because their parents were like, your bitch ass to school. I don't have to look at you. Yeah, I have to go to work. You're going to school. Yeah.

Esko ran next door to call a doctor and Mrs. Hainonin's neighbors drove the pair back to civilization to see Dr. Kaya Noya at the Hainola Clinic. Arno reported his symptoms later saying, I felt ill. My back was aching and all my joints were painful. My head ached and after a while I had to vomit. When I went to pee, the urine was black. Whoa! It was like pouring black coffee into the snow. Oh, the box got his nuts.

This continued for a couple of months. Months? So, they really can't stop talking about coffee. Um, yeah, months is not good. That's horrible. Brother, they got your kidneys. They got you bad. Dude.

That's awful. That's really rough. Arno complained to his doctor about aching joints and his headache. The doctor prescribed him sedatives and sleeping pills, telling him the symptoms would be gone in 10 days. How the hell did he know that? Yeah. But they continued, and he was unable to work. In May, he reported he was still ill with pains in his head and neck. The least bit of effort tired him.

The numbness in his right leg had gone, but he still had trouble with balance. His memory was so bad that if he left home, he had to say where he was going so that he could be picked up if he didn't return. A visit to the site of the incident made him feel much worse. Yeah, don't go back to the radioactive hellscape. Why are they taking him back? I think to gather evidence. Right.

In fact, Phil, cue up the next image, please. That is them at the site where it took place. Wow. I will say there is, I don't know, maybe, man, as like two bros in their late, late, late 20s, i.e. 34. We're not too far off the age of these guys. And there's something about seeing these, like, you know, grown-ass men, they're not teenagers. We sometimes have stories from crazy old people, from teenagers who are spoofing, lying, sometimes from kids. I brought up witnesses on

this show that are six years old before. There's something about having, you know, guys in the same social demographic as us, that it's like, man, they're probably just normal guys trying to live their life. They were like doing their little hobby. And now they're like, nah, bro, this shit really happened. Now my bones don't work. Yeah. And I can't remember where I am when I leave the house. Yeah. This thing just kind of like sped up his body. It just turned him like 85. Hmm. They hit, they slam the Benjamin button on that box. Gave him that Benjamin button disease. him with the old fire. They zapped his bones to the future. They were like, they probably thought they were doing a nice thing. They were like, hey, watch this. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a great thing.

You know, on our planet, it takes thousands of years for us to age and become wiser and grow into our fully form. I'm gonna turn this guy into age 100 right now. To do to do to do. Blast him. And of course now he's like, my joints hurt. I'm senile. I don't remember where I am when I leave the house. But pissing coffee? Yeah, I don't know what happens when you get old. Maybe that's part of it. Yeah, he should see if he likes bingo.

And Werther's originals. Just do a couple old person tests. How do you feel about immigrants? Yeah, Brexit. Yeah, I want to know that. But alarmingly, Arno wasn't alone in his suffering. While much less severe, Esco also experienced strange symptoms. Several people who visited the site felt sick for some days after.

afterwards. And Esco wondered if the place was infected in some way, as he too suffered after effects, including headaches and eye troubles. That feels like it's hard to bring up when your friend is pissed in tar, crawling around the town. He doesn't remember his own name. And you're like, you know, I'm actually pretty beat up too. Like, I stuffed my toe on the way out because I was so scared. I did park run at the weekend and like, I don't know. I just like my time wasn't up to scratch, really. I felt like a little sluggish, you know. I have like a bit of a runny nose. Oh, God, you don't think it's because of, it's like, no, I don't think it's because of the craft.

You probably have a cold. It's like, man, it's like, my shoulder's been giving me grief. I mean, I have it at the gym like five days this week, but like it could be the craft though. You know what's crazy is like, you know, before we saw the little guy, you know, I was like, irresistible to women. I just had this charisma and this charm. And like, I was just the life of the party. And now I just, I don't know. I feel like my funk's been taken from me. Like, you were not like that beforehand. Arno's looking at him.

He's like moments from death. He's so gone. He's trying to strangle him with his weak spaghetti arms. He can't do it. He's like, all life support. He's on respirator. Hey, they got us both, buddy.

They really got us good. Anyway, I'm going to get brunch with the homies. Wish you could be there, but get better soon, dude. Yeah. They got us both, man. You know, we're both afflicted in. crazy, horrible ways. You know what's weird is my dick actually got bigger after the incident. They changed my body too, man.

Damn. It's almost like they gave me your life for shit or something. They transferred it. It's nuts. They're like my metabolism is like wicked fast. Like I've been eating like fast food and burgers every dinner. I can't even keep the weight on. My eyes are bluer and shit. He's like he's like trying to sidebar with the doctor after. It's like, it's like, doc, you ever seen this shit before? I went, I went from like, like, I went from like, like, like six inches hard to like nine or something. You know what I'm saying?

Nine soft. He's doing all this just behind a pulled curtain. He's like, what one second, buddy, hang in there, everything's going to be fine. I just got to talk to the doctor for a second.

Doc, I feel fucking amazing. What did they do to me? I feel like, goddamn Superman. You're doctor's like, let me feel your biceps. You look so good.

Yeah. Like, on the way here, I stopped a bus from hitting a woman with one hand. I think I have powers. I should probably get in there. He's dead in the next room.

Isn't it so cruel? The alien was just like, ee, me, meeny, miney, moh. I'm just like, ity, meeny, my knee old. Gotcha,

Arno Bios. There is something really, funny about the alien opening a box and one of them instantly getting cancer. It's so dark, but it's like, just they're like, what's he going to do? Yeah, rarely does an alien coming down and giving us anything result in positive health implications for a human. It's never good.

It's like Chris Columbus going to the Americas. Like, no good was going to come from it. Even if he had come in peace, which he didn't. He brought like 16 different versions of rabies. Oh, yeah. And killed everybody. It's bad stuff. I just went to an exhibition on Hawaii at one of the museums here in London.

And I didn't know about, you know, the Hawaii officials, one of the first times they traveled all the way to London. It took like five months to get here on a boat. People died on the way. And, you know, the royals when they arrived, I think. think they were like, you know, went to the theater, went to the museums, went to some parties, died. They died. They got like smallpox or measles and just died in London.

Yeah, they weren't prepared for how dirty this year. Yeah. They came from like the beautiful shores of the Hawaiian islands and just came and they're like, All right, governor. Yeah. I'm a swing of this then. Yeah. It's just smallpox in a glass.

Aloha, my ohana. Yeah, so honored to meet your culture. All right, mate, polish your knob for you. Sorry, pick something up in the tube yesterday. That's just what's happening here is these people are making a voyage to Earth, but they're not the ones dying. Dude. Yeah, it sucks. The thing is, though, we're acting like we are so fragile, like an alien just coming down immediately just gives us radiation poisoning.

But we don't know what everyday thing here on Earth would kill one of those guys immediately. Imagine we were just like, went to go shake his hand, tripped up and doused him in Gatorade. And he burst into flames. And we're like, oh shit, Gatorade kills them? Yeah. Damn, we just don't know how they react to our stuff. I know. Like, we're so specifically evolved for our ecosystem.

Yeah. It's like the way if the Earth's atmosphere was like a little bit different. we would just be like instantly irradiated. There's so much radiation from the sun, but it's like the beautiful Garden of Eden that is Earth. All the like upper atmosphere layers of ozone and stuff just keep us safe, you know? Which is why like, yeah, that's one like the big problems

they have to solve if human beings are going to explore space is like how we simply survive the radiation. I love to think about that sometimes how things could have been, just such a change in circumstances would have changed us as humans fundamentally. Yeah. You know, if let's say the environment was different, the vegetation was different,

we could be in a world now where we're all the humans that we are, but we just have like trunks, big, like elephant trunks on our face. Really not where I thought you were going with this, but go on. And I'd just love to think about how things would probably still be similar enough to the point where there would be like swimsuit models. and it'd be like, look at the trunk on that one, you know? That would be normal and like hot, or people would be like, oh, did you see the person got trunk surgery? Like, their trunk is so long now, and we find that hot for some reason.

Like, the only reason we think other humans are hot is because of, like, evolutionary reasons that, you know, we've, we have societally created, like, an ideal body type. But if we had trunks the whole time, you'd be like, Googling like, trunk exposed. Trunk slump? Trunk. Yeah. You just don't know. I know what you're saying, which is.

Or if we had tails or something, you'd be like, well, we did have tails. We still got tail bones. Yeah, but not to the point were we. I taught my daughter that I showed her that humans have tail bones, and she was not happy. Yeah, that's what's scary. You're kind of pulling the rug on like a child's entire thesis of what's happening here.

Yeah. They did not know they had a tail. The problem with the analogy is there's already an alternate universe where they're like, well, imagine people had weaners. Yeah, we're in the weird one. The problem is no one really wants to see weeners. It's not. We're in the weird one. We are in the weird one.

Where weeners exist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of do have trunks. Let's move on. I know. And isn't it such a weird, like, not to get hung up, but it's such a weird biological fact that the only reason that balls are on the outside is because the... I can see Phil just tuned in being like, what the fuck are they talking about? The temperature of the human body is too high for the balls to be on the inside. So we have to keep them on the outside, which is why we're stuck with these weird things that, let's face it, life would be a lot simpler without.

So much simpler. Like the wiener is kind of fine, but... let's move on. Because no one wants to see balls. And then the crazy thing is, the balls apparently want to be on the outside, but then you jump in water, cold enough, the balls suddenly change their mind. Okay? We go back a million years of evolution in an instant.

When that ice bucket hit my swim shorts? The pair of men reported their story, and it seemed to be taken as sincere by doctors and journalists alike. They even revisited the site with a Swedish reporter in June of that year. It was reported that when the three men arrived at the site, their hands became red and hot and Arnaud had to leave with an excruciating headache. These guys can't stay away from this place. They've been back like four times.

This is the first time they've gone back. June of that year. I think that what did I say they saw in like February? No, January. January it all happened. Okay. May of that year, they went back with a journalist. Oh, God.

And they were still experiencing ill effects. Now, despite some improvements in his conditions, Arno was permanently affected by his experiences that day. One respected expert, Dr. Paoli Kayanoia, examined Arnoa in Esco and reported that the men have suffered a great shock. Both seemed absent-minded. They talked quickly and incoherently. I couldn't find anything clinically wrong with Henonen.

He didn't feel well, but that could have been his stomach reacting to the shock. The symptoms he described are like those after being exposed to radioactivity. Unfortunately, I have no instrument to measure that. Great. As to the black urine, it seems inexplicable. Possibly it could have been blood in it, but that can't go on for several months. Yeah. I think we're unfortunately butting up against a simpler time in medicine of the 70s.

And also a relatively remote place. We're not in London or like a world major city right now where the access to medical experts might have been different. Sure. We are, as far as I'm aware, in rural Finland in the 70s. So that's frustratingly the thing. No one seems to have busted out the Geiger counter and gone to the site. No one seems to have done that level of investigation into Arno symptoms.

Did they find anything else at the site, like indentations in the ground, the trees being affected, anything else physically being disturbed? Because right now, and I'm not against it, but it is the testimony. of the two men. They do have some physical health issues, but obviously we don't have anything outside of that, which is difficult. No, it's an excellent question. And if we are talking radiation, we might expect there to be some effect on the surroundings. Yeah. But at the same time, ESCO is barely affected. Yeah. So it seems as if the radius of effect, the little guy, the box and pointed it at Arno.

So it really seems like a pretty acute effect. It seems like, you know, so there won't be depressed grass or land because it didn't land. The little guy did. The little guy stepped there, allegedly. And yeah, don't get me wrong, there was sparks, multicolored light. And there was a lot, there was a light show for sure. It was like a goddamn EDM festival. Yeah, low key.

But, yeah, I guess that's all I'm saying. I do agree with you. Ideally, we would have something else. But that's something that's different about this case. The radius of effect is so specific to Arno. Yeah. And a little to his left to Esco. But it's a great point.

I mean, they clearly went back and I don't, that'll be interesting to look into specifically, but I didn't see that, that there was anything reported by the Swedish reporter as to any damage to the surroundings. This is one of those stories you'll see. I think there's an awesome story. it took us a long time to get to it. And I think that's because it's in Finnish.

Right. Right. Not a country that probably historically was outputting all of their news and stuff in English. The standard of English speaking would be very high in Finland, but I don't know about back then. Yeah. The Finnish also, from my understanding from my brief time there and getting to meet a lot of people who live in the area, very unproblematic, don't want to be a bother type individuals. Low-key vibes. Yeah, like something like this could happen. They'd be like, oh, but it's no big deal. Oh, it's fine. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. And it's like, I'm worried about it. You should be worried about it. Yeah. You've been pissing blood for six months. Yeah. Yeah. Various other experts allegedly studied both the claims and are no symptoms in the aftermath

of the encounter. Shortwave radiation, electrical radiation, ultraviolet and electrical phenomena were all raised of possibilities as to where Arno's symptoms may have come from, but none could be conclusively proven. Maybe it's because the technology is from 16,000 light years away. Now, as we reach the end of this investigation, we should give some consideration to a little of what happened after this experience, specifically Arno's life after the fact.

Arno went on to claim he experienced another 23 UFO sightings in the following years. Whoa. He alleged he had become a contactee. Now, at this point, this is something we've seen a lot in TPL. People who, it's a common thing for some reason. People who have one experience, then go on to have more. It's almost as if once the door is opened, once they've identified that you're a good little lab rat, they come back to experiment on you again and again.

To see how the box is making you feel. Well, his P is black now, which is great. Not that weird yellow color that it was earlier. That's normal. Yellow was the normal one? Okay, well, that's not good. Um, quote, on two occasions, he met an extremely beautiful space woman. Okay.

After a loud female voice directed him to a secluded rendezvous point. Oh, brother. These encounters included floating extraterrestrial women wearing yellow trouser suits, speaking finish, and gifting him a green pen. Asked where the green pen was. He said he lost it. Bro, no wonder he can't remember where he is when he leaves a house. then hitting the green pen.

His eyes are red. He's tired. He doesn't have the energy to get out of bed. He's been writing experimental music in his bedroom. You know, it leaves us in a really tough position. Not really. It does. Because the Imyalvi incident, as this case has come to be known,

is considered one of Northern Europe's most compelling UFO sightings. And in isolation, it is extremely convincing. It's quite rare. Not unheard of, but quite rare to get someone with such brutal and acute symptoms. It is true. I'm being, I'm joking, obviously. I think the case, the core case that we're investigating today, you know, is exactly what we like to see. Two people, two witnesses having an encounter. Someone being physically affected so we can gather evidence of that encounter in some way. Yeah, it is a shame when there is more to the story that kind of discredits some of those claims. But is it fair to say that if his pee is black, is his brain mustard now?

If his pee is ketchup, his brain is mustard. He's just what it? He's goo not. Right. Are his faculties gone? Yeah. How normal was he before the UFO? Because I feel like this is like a thing, isn't it?

In like a men in black movie or like a sci-fi movie is like an old homeless guy who people think is crazy and it's like, no, he's seen some shit. Right. That's why he is the way he is. Yeah. He lost it. Yeah. What do you say?

A floating woman, though? Yeah. Came of a pen and he lost the pen? Do you say 32 different? 23? 23. 23 sightings. That's a lot to not have a camera for.

Yeah. Yeah. Because on sighting 16, I'm going to be like, I'm just going to keep this thing strapped on me. We see it. and time and time again, that contactees, abductees, it becomes a borderline mental phenomenon. I'm not saying it's all real. But for these guys, and we've heard them speak at UFO conferences, we've read the books. They're describing like, they're like, yeah, got abducted again last night. And they're like, it's like it's kind of a waking dream where they, it's weird. It's weird.

They're like, well, I didn't hear anything. It's like, oh, yeah, because the abduction was more of a feeling. Yeah, it's like... I mean, literally they're like, well, my astral body was taken 16 light years away. It's like, okay. But that's just a slightly different thing to a green guy coming out of a ship and blasting you with the Benjamin. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. It's a tough one. It's a really tough one. And yet, Rory, at the end of every episode of this paranormal life, we have to decide whether we think our given case is paranormal or not. We have to come down on a yes or a no. Where's your head at?

I think it's kind of what we just said. I like the original case. I think it's very interesting. Wish we had a bit more physical evidence kind of on the ground in the debris. But I did find it quite captivating. Drawings aside. Yeah, I wish I hadn't heard the other stuff.

The other stuff is not, is damaging to his character, I would say. I agree. I think one of the strangest things to me is, How the, like, I'll be quite honest. I think it's all pretty compelling. I think the fact that we have a doctor on record being like, this guy's f***. Yeah.

And we don't know, no one has any explanation. And all the witnesses involved, like the mother, the whoever, everyone is like, this guy was fine 30 minutes ago. And then his best friend who was with him is like, yeah, it's because an alien, hit him with a box. So like, we have a good amount of corroboration. One of the strangest things is why the Alien is a fucking elf.

Yeah, this is the thing. I keep forgetting that they said a little guy came down, a little weird elf man with a box. Well, little guy is okay. Lots of alien sightings describe a little guy. Yeah, but he wore green clothes, green boots, green little hat. I think you've said it before where it's like, it's fine if you want to make absolutely wild claims in a paranormal encounter.

But the wilder the claims, the more substantial the evidence. If they had just seen a craft hovering in the. forest and there were lights and then one of them became very ill. That would be kind of one thing. But the little guy coming down in the light and then opening up a box, he's wearing like boots and gloves and a little hat. How do you explain the effects, bro? I don't know. I don't know. Let's make our conclusions. I'm going to start us off and I am going to come down on a yes today. Whoa. For the Imlarvi UFO incidents. Okay. So yeah, for that particular I know pressure.

No pressure. Yeah. Not the 23 other ones where a demon suck them off or whatever. I don't give a shit about that. It's a close one today. No pressure.

No judgment. Okay. It's going to be no weirdness. I'm worried because I actually also have some like UFO stories coming up but I'm worried that if I don't say the right thing right now. Yeah, you're going to treat that as like revenge when I start pitching my story.

But like are you going to say the wrong thing? Because I don't know. Because this happened before. Like I did Shag Harbor. which was a pretty compelling case, which you said no to. And I was fine with that. You threatened to murder me with your bare hands for months and months afterwards.

I said the audience will. You said there was a civil war that everyone should brutally murder me. Like it was really bad to fallout. It's a no. It's a no. It's a no this week. You, my God. It's just a lot.

It's just a lot. Was it the 23 women come in the visit in a? after the fact. Was that what did it? It's the 23 women. It's the it's the guy coming down with little boots and a box

and I like that there were physical repercussions but there's just a lot that's unanswered for. If these two men went on to be like they disappeared and they were like we don't want to talk about it we just want to have normal lives

I'm not going to write a book. That would be one thing. That's what they did. They literally went on to live their lives, and the rest of their life was normal. And the rest of their lives were insane, because one was visited by 23 more aliens. Well, yeah, but he didn't. Kid is, you can't see him out of the desk. He is pissing black. It's pooling down by his chair.

I could see it. Okay. I'm sorry. I just, you know, today, listen, our job on this podcast, is to decide whether or not something is definitively paranormal, if there is enough proof. And I just don't think we have that today. We just have the testimony of two men. There's a civil war.

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Quiet, Kyle, you need to speak a little louder. There are so many UFOs coming down into the commune and abducting people every day. We can't hear a goddamn word anyone is saying. I know a lot of the time in these... They're getting sucked up like f***in pigment. They're like running around like and I know that traditionally UFOs are quite quiet, noiseless orbs. Yeah. These are These ones are loud. Yeah. These ones are loud as hell. So you need to speak a little loud, louder.

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Teach us. I've been paying her $50 a month for three years. to learn the ways. I'm just realizing now that I'm talking, she tricked me. Yeah, because you're giving her all of your stuff. You're giving her all your money. She's slowly. Oh my God. She's like, I don't even need to hypnotize this guy. He's so, he's so thick. I can just get him to give me his stuff. It's all like e-learning as well. It's like just P-she's just going to be PDFs. Oh, dude, don't buy the, never buy the course. Oh, it's like 20 grand on the tube. On that note, thanks lastly today to, I have no

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Just do what the man tells you to do. Oh, I turn into Tucker Carlson. Well, gee, that sounds like a great idea. Yeah. Listen, you just go with the flow sometimes. And, you know, when the moment is right, the rebellion starts, brother. Don't worry. When we say the code word, corn dog, the army will activate.

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