This Paranormal Life - Are Ancient Aliens Spying On Us The Black Knight Satellite

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

In 2025 we’re used to being surveilled, it’s just part of the modern world. But that doesn’t mean surveillance wasn’t happening in the past, too. And what if that historic surveillance was hap...pening from beyond our world? Some believe that an ancient satellite known as the Black Knight has been floating high above earth studying us for hundreds or thousands of years. Sure it might sound like a baseless conspiracy theory, but why then, are there photos of the craft itself? Time for Rory and Kit to investigate! Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join our Secret Society Facebook Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to get access to weekly bonus episodes! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Official TPL Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thisparanormallife.com/store⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Intro music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.purple-planet.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Edited by Philip Shacklady Research by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ewen Friers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is faster than light travel possible? What happens if I water my plants with holy water answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life? Hello! Hey! Welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the weekly comedy podcast where every Tuesday you're joined by me, Kit Greer Mulvenna, and this guy sitting across from me, Mr. Rory Powers. How you doing today, Rory? Doing great, Kit, excited to be back investigating the paranormal, even though we have left the spookiest. month of the year, October. It is behind us. It's in our rear view. But, uh, you know, that doesn't
Starting point is 00:00:35 mean you have to stop, guys. It doesn't mean you have to take down the plastic skeletons. You can leave them up and keep this party going all year long with this paranormal life. It's true. Yeah, you know, Halloween, you got to investigate paranormal. Got to do all the spooky activities. November. Got to do no, not November. I think that's the height of it. We've got to do no, not November. We'll come back to that. I might have broken it already. But it doesn't mean we can't also investigate the paranormal. You know that spooky season lives on truly in the hearts and minds of the commune listening to this. Yeah. So you know we're going to keep the investigations coming. And let me tell you, this month is already pretty spooky too, because it turns out I ate so much
Starting point is 00:01:14 Halloween candy I now have diabetes. Really? So how's that for a spooky start to the month? Sorry to hear that. Find out you have to take insulin every morning. I don't like needles. But the good news is I've got type two, which is like the next gen. So, you know, I feel like that comes with some software updates, it's going to keep me healthier somehow. Yes, they just launched. They just launched type three diabetes, but I can't get there yet. I'm going to wait to make the leap. All right, we're not going to mess about the top of the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We're going to get stuck straight into, I don't think I'll explain what the podcast was at the beginning. Hello. Yeah, it was your first time. Every Tuesday, we investigate a different paranormal tale deciding by the end of the episode whether we think it's real or not. We are paranormal investigators. Yes. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Let's get into today's case and a reminder that head over to Patreon.com forward slash This Paranormal Life to get a treasure trove, a whole kind of underground secret bunkers worth of paranormal investigations, hundreds of them in the form of bonus episodes, afterparty episodes, which are weekly behind the scenes of This Paranormal Life. Oh yeah, it's all available over there in one place for one subscription, patreon.com, forward slash this paranormal life. And just in case someone has somehow missed it last month, we just released a whole mini-series about Area 51,
Starting point is 00:02:34 where most of the episodes were free into the public here, but there are two more episodes, and they are also exclusive to Patreon. So if you miss that, if you miss the final two, head over there to Patreon, check those out. Rory, spying, monitoring, observation. There's never been a more efficient time in history for mass surveillance.
Starting point is 00:02:54 then nah. Okay. After all, on social media, chumps like me and you, Rory, we now offer up our location, personal details, thoughts, opinions, and sometimes even images of our junk willingly. Yeah, I actually shared my location with you earlier today. Yeah, and I noticed you turned it off. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I picked one hour. I said, share for one hour. I don't trust Kit enough to know my location all the time. It's just I open up my phone and all I see is Rory has stopped sharing his location with you. I'm like, why? Are we not podcasting now in 45 minutes like we planned? Well, it's hard to reciprocate. What happens between the morning meeting and then the afternoon recording that you don't need me to know about?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Where did you go? It's just normal to not know. Because I told you. You tell me way too much. I told you I went to buy socks. Yeah. I said, oh shit, there's a Uniclo. I'm going to buy socks because I forgot to bring socks on this trip.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You texted me at 3 a.m. last night and said, at refrigerator eating cheese. Yeah. And I was like, I don't need to know this, buddy. You don't have to give me like these updates about where you are 24-7. But what if you needed to record a last minute after party for some reason to go on Patreon for our patrons? I'm too busy eating cheese. I need to let you know so that we don't get cross wires like that. You don't have to let me know.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Jesus. Hold on. I got a text. Yeah. In the office podcasting. This is from you. How did you send this? That's insane.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I have my ways and my means. Remind me in eight minutes to tell Rory still podcasting. Okay, let's get back into the story. What I'm trying to say... Remind me to tell Rory to mind his own business in five minutes. Hey, Siri, remind me to tell Rory he has an attitude problem? Hey, Siri, remind me to stay humble in 12 minutes. What I'm trying to say is, at no point in history,
Starting point is 00:04:42 can we be observed as easily as not, but that doesn't mean that surveillance wasn't also happening in the past. Hmm. And what if? Jesus Christ, that surveillance is also happening from beyond our world. Whoa! With that, let's begin today's investigation. Our story today begins in spring, 1899. It's a fresh morning in the Rocky Mountains. Journalist James S. McNally has just cycled out of the Colorado Springs and into the wilds. He pulls in, drops his bike by the side of the road, in the shableness. of Pike's Peak, a huge 14,000 foot mountain dominating the skyline.
Starting point is 00:05:26 This is a quiet, remote part of North America at a time which, let's face it, most of America was pretty quiet and remote, at least compared to today. True, but someone interesting had moved into the area and McNally was here to see them. Walking into the foothills of the mountain, he sees a traditional barn, but with a difference. This one's surrounded by a huge, tiring, metal frame, structure. This is where the local children said the Lightning Man lived. Oh wow. Cool nickname. Also known by a pretty cool real name, Nicola Tesla. Oh shit. Wow. All right, now we're talking. Rory, have we talked about Tesla before here on the podcast? Yeah, we have. We've talked about him. I don't
Starting point is 00:06:13 remember which episode it was, but we talked about him and his various inventions over the years that were shut down by the government. I don't even know that bit. What happened? Yeah, that was, I believe in an episode we did that was called, is Donald Trump a time traveler? Because Donald Trump's, like, great, great-grandfather was like the guy who raided Nikola Tesla's office and stole a bunch of shit. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Remember the content of that episode. I think it was something like that. I need to go back and listen to it. Yeah. So we have talked about him a little bit on the show before. Okay. Well, there you.
Starting point is 00:06:48 go. Because sadly, nowadays, his name only really reminds us of an ugly loser, deadbeat, dad, racist billionaire who pays people to pretend to be him on online games of Diablo 2. But in the late 19th century, Tesla was a huge figure in science. Before arriving in Colorado, he had had an illustrious life inventing and experimenting in the world of x-rays and electromagnetism. You see, Tesla had been in Colorado for almost a He had identified that the pristine, clear air of the Rockies was a good place for experimentation. Mm-hmm. The fact he could conduct his experiments in mostly secrecy was a nice bonus too. That's right, the place was quiet.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So save for a few intrigued kids and the odd journalist, Nikola Tesla could work away in isolation in his barn with some basic accommodation attached. Aha, Mr. McNally! Now I don't have much time for interviews or interviews or this. discussion, but please have some tea and take a seat. Thank you, Mr. Tesla. How are things going up here? The boys from the town said you've been running some new experiments.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yes, but not on the boys, though. No, no, scientific experiments. Yeah, well, it's just you, you say experimenting with the boys, it sounds like I'm a weirdo or something. Well, you are, but... But not like that. No, no, not like that, obviously. It's just some people hear the accent and...
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's really okay. You were saying. You know, they hear the accent and they think all Europeans are weird. I haven't experimented with boys since my days at college back in Prague, if you know what I mean. For the love of God, Tesla, what are the experiments? Yes, yes, of course. I had a very interesting development last night. Very interesting indeed.
Starting point is 00:08:37 The night before McNally arrived, Tesla had been working on the apparatus when the receiver mysteriously came to life. Whoa, like Frankenstein? Yeah. Must eat braids. The most famous lightning experiment of all time. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Electricity has lost a lot of the RIS it used to have. Sure. Like that, that captured the imagination of what was possible with electricity in this new field of science, didn't it? The fact that we thought it could kind of honestly understandably think it could just kind of breathe life into something. Yeah. When I was growing up, the coolest thing that any.
Starting point is 00:09:17 could get for Christmas was one of those balls that you put on your desk that kind of shoots lightning off to the sides. You can touch it with your hands. Yeah, what are those called? Do you know? Fucking magic. That's what it's called. They were epic. I did buy one as a man because I now have my own money and can afford it and still pretty magic guys. I'm not going to lie. Do you ever put your balls on it or you did? Oh, first thing. First thing I did. Yeah. I was like, no, it has the same effect, cool. And I'm infertile.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I can't have kids anymore. Yeah, yeah. It cooked my sperm like eggs. Just one shot of them. Hard cut to 15 years in the future and the doctor's like, I'm afraid to say you're infertile. I, quick question, do you ever put your nut sack on the, on the ball? Yes, of course. I wanted super children.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, I mean, just while we're having an aside, I might as well actually show you some images of where Tesla was working from. That is the barn with the metal frames around it. Very cool. Yeah, guys, it's a barn with metal frames around it. It is what it is with a huge metal pole coming out the top, presumably to conduct lightning. And I'll just fast forward to really a way more interesting iconic image
Starting point is 00:10:36 of actually inside the barn. Well, this is insane. Is this a photograph? It's a really famous image. So I think it is just a famous photograph of Tesla. Okay, well, there's a lightning explosion. Lightning is jetting off from a ball onto a beam. Tesla's just sitting, chill and reading a book.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But yeah, this looks like Bond Villains' lair. Oh, yeah. And Tesla is just aura farming in the middle of it all. Chill and unfazed. He's not even standing with like his thumbs up or something. He's like head buried in a notebook type B. I've actually just looked that up because I wanted to know if it was. was a real image.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And the internet tells me the photo was a promotional stunt by photographer Dickinson v. Alley. It was a double exposure. So they set off the machine in a darkened room, took a photo with all the electricity going nuts. And then they took another photo with no electricity on Tesla sitting in his chair. Got it. Which is a pretty awesome creative use of photography for back then, I would say.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Goes hard. Yeah, because that's the one they're talking about, which, yeah, it's pretty nuts. That's awesome. That's a great photo. That's going on the grid. That's a hard post. Yes, Tesla had had an interesting evening of experimentation, not with boys. It was very strange, Mr. McNally. Without warning, the receiver lit up in front of me. The signal was consistent, controlled, purposeful even.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Where was it coming from, Mr. Tesla? Tesla paused and looked up. From there, Mr. McNell. You mean in space, sir? More tea, Mr. McNally. It was then that James got a glimpse at Tesla's notebook. He had been writing up his test results from the night before, and under the section where Tesla had speculated about the source of the pulses,
Starting point is 00:12:32 James saw the words, intelligently controlled signals. Intelligently controlled. Was this Tesla's assertion that the signals were coming from some, kind of life source. And in fact, that's exactly what he believed. Before long news of this alien interaction had spread. All right. Well, hey now, slow down. Slow down, because we've got here in a very strange way. Intelligently, what did I just say? Intelligently something, something. Controlled signals, Rory. From space? Yeah. Got it. Okay. Yeah. From...
Starting point is 00:13:11 Up sir, Mr. McNally. Okay, yeah. I think because I was playing the role of Tesla, I wasn't even really listening to what was happening in the story. For sure. So he's receiving signals from space. Yeah. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yep, speed. Got it. Lightning speed. A host of national papers reported on Tesla's findings, and in a letter to the Red Cross Society, Tesla referred to the messages, quote, from another world that read, and I guess this is the content of the message,
Starting point is 00:13:41 One, two, three. Uh-oh, that ain't even binary. I will say counting upwards, much less ominous than counting downwards. For sure. Being like, oh, we're getting a message. Let's listen to it. Ten. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:59 It could mean anything. Nine. All right. They're going to. Get in the shelters. Get in the bomb shelters. We don't have much time. Collier's weekly printed an article called Talking with Planet.
Starting point is 00:14:11 in which Tesla himself contemplated whether or not the signals could come from Mars, Venus, or other planets. Pretty cool, right? This is basically the plot for a movie I watched for the first time recently. Contact. I think it was like 1997 or thereabouts, something like that anyway. Yeah, receiving messages from space. This is probably one of the earliest times someone's made this claim. I want to know how's he receiving the messages? Because they're not, it's not going to be Morse code. it's not going to be text messages. What are these signals? What does he mean?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Electronic pulses? Is that what he's talking about? I don't know. Let's find out. I think it's like FaceTime or something. Seriously. Here's a general rule, bud. If I didn't say it in the script, I don't know it.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Let's move forward without assumption. Ten, nine. Oh, he's going to start swinging. Yeah. And what date was it that he received the messages? Hmm, let me check. Did I say a date earlier? No, that I don't know it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 How about that? My understanding is paper thin of today's events. Paper thin. More like tracing paper. As in you can see my dumb ass through the script. I can see you sweating through the paper. That's a good question. I've tried to look it up.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And all I can see is discussion about it being radio signal, which makes sense that he had his big ass tire. And certainly that is how we still communicate. through space is using, that is one of the methods is radio wave transmissions. But yeah, it doesn't get to the crux of what was the, what was the questions, what is the content of the message? Was it Morse code? Was it something? Was it just audio? Yeah. You know, like how FM or AM radio works? I don't know. But if the signal of this episode's story is patchy, Rory, good news. We're still just setting the scene. The picture of what's
Starting point is 00:16:06 happening will soon become clear. Fast forward to 1928. Just under 30 years later, a civil engineer and amateur radio operator in Norway noted a strange occurrence, showing that Tesla was not alone his experience. And I'm not talking about the boys at college. Jorgen Halls of Oslo, sorry if I'm messing that up, reported that his own signals were inexplicably echoing back to his location. It said that his radio signals would return to him moments later after broadcasting, leading some to wonder was the return broadcast, alien in origin. So Tesla, Hals, and other similar stories started a theory,
Starting point is 00:16:48 forming in the latter half of the 20th century, the theory concerned something called the Black Knight, and the subject of today's investigation. Okay. A series of UFOologists posited that an alien satellite, some kind of artificial surveillance or communication satellite, had been orbiting Earth for hundreds, if not thousands of years. This satellite, the Black Knight, is what Tesla and others had come in contact with.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Rory, have you heard of the Black Knight satellite? I have only because we've talked about it on this podcast before. True? Very briefly, I believe, in an episode of the show where we were just rattling off five of the weirdest things in space. Right. That might have been a bonus episode. Yeah. Now, it's not the episode,
Starting point is 00:17:40 classic, of course, which is things not where they should be, or things where they shouldn't be. No. Which is where we learned about the rock plug. Sure. Another item that mystifies science. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:54 no, but my, my knowledge of it is pretty limited. Aside from it just being a weird object that people think is a satellite. It's been kind of floating around up there for a long time. I will say that, fittingly, a bit like it's lower here on the podcast where it's been
Starting point is 00:18:09 floating about in space for thousands of years. It's also been floating around the inbox of this paranormal life for the last eight years. And now we're finally talking about it properly. Trying to get ahead of presumably imminent question from Rory about why it is actually
Starting point is 00:18:25 called the Black Knight Satellite. No one's quite sure why it's called that. Although there is potentially a clue. in the fact that Britain launched a rocket called the Black Knight rocket. In the 50s in 1964, they announced the Black Knight Satellite Launcher Project. And interestingly, that program never actually got into orbit.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It has to be connected. It just sheerly has to be connected. Okay, so fair enough, at this point, it's kind of just a few stories being linked together into the theory of an ancient space satellite orbiting Earth. Well, that theory would explode when a series of photos emerged in 1998, the STS-88 Photos. On a seven-day mission in December 1998, the NASA Space Shuttle Endeavour carried a crew of six to the International Space Station. Over the course of their time in orbit, the crew carried out maintenance, experiments and
Starting point is 00:19:31 three spacewalks. But it was photos taken by Russian cosmonaut Sergey K. K. Krikolyov that caused a stir in the UFO community. Let's take a look, Rory. All right. I assume these are professional NASA photographs. It wasn't just like taking picks on his phone during the spacewalk. Yeah, he was taking bathroom dickpicks when he just outside the porthole of the bathroom he accidentally caught no this is professional images that NASA was gonna
Starting point is 00:20:05 fucking wish they didn't take I guess NASA didn't take them I guess it was a different astronaut took them but NASA's going to start wishing the different astronaut didn't take them all right let me just show them you uh okay kit's sending me a lot of pictures
Starting point is 00:20:20 which are making me realize why the printer ran out of ink So this is Pitch black space and every color of the rainbow on the planet's behind it. Beautifully rendered kind of, you know, pale blue marble of Earth
Starting point is 00:20:39 in about six photographs that are kind of identical. Yeah, you arguably just could have printed one of these. You didn't have to include six different photos. But they're all slightly different. And they do show from their different angles, perspectives and so on, so forth. They do show that it is not a trick of the light.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It is not a double exposure. It is not some kind of cheap trick, Rory. Sure. Ink is so expensive. We might actually lose money on this podcast. Y'all are going to have to up your sub on patreon.com because I just printed out like eight pictures of space. This is a month of support.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Guys, space is crazy. It truly is. Seeing an object like this floating, through space. Feels like it shouldn't be strange. But when you think about it, you know, whenever you see a photo of space, that's all there is, a lot of space. One of my favorite space facts is that if you took two galaxies and smashed them together,
Starting point is 00:21:36 almost nothing would touch. Right. Because of that's just how much space there is between every single object, even between two galaxies. You know, that cliche of the spaceship navigating an asteroid. The reality of that would be like, look out, dodge an asteroid. And they'd be like, and be careful, there's another one 16,000 miles away that we have to be on the lookout for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You know, it's so vast. Yeah. So to be in a spaceship like the ISS and even see anything else out there in space is pretty mind-blowing. Yeah. The movies would make you think that the solar system is like trying to get to get to the bar at an oasis concert. Ducking, diving, navigating.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But in reality, it's like trying to get to the bar to this Paranoma Life Live podcast. Right. You can walk right up. It's kind of fine. Sorry, can you refer it? That was a lot of cool chat about space. Talk about the fucking satellite.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I mean, it's not a satellite for sure. It's a rock. Well, it's an... No! Oh! Hey, hey, hey, hey! What the f***, dude? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:49 A rock? Yeah. No. No, no, no. No one thinks it's a rock. It is either... It's a really weird shape. No, it is. No, you're right. And why would an alien satellite, which is what it is, why would that look like a human satellite?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Humans are like, doi, we need to make a satellite. Well, let's make it... I don't know, stuff on it. Whereas they would think completely differently to us. It does look unnatural. It looks like either space debris, like scrap metal. or something that could have only been created through a collision. This doesn't look like it was naturally formed.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It's inorganic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, you know, like two meteorites collided, even though I said that's essentially very, very unlikely. Yes, you did my work for me. It's a weird thing. It's a weird looking thing. It's a weird looking thing.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It's really hard to describe. It's true. It's kind of pointy and angular. In summer images looks like not much. In one image looks a little bit like a plane. In another image looks a bit like a beak of a bird or something. I think a beak is probably the closest thing, honestly. It's jagged.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It's jagged. It's a jagged object. And once published online by NASA, the speculation went wild. Now, officials and skeptics at the time claimed that the photo showed little more than space debris. allegedly, specifically, a piece of thermal blanket that have been lost during a routine maintenance. But those eggheads must have me f***ed up if they think I don't know what a blanket looks like. Sure. You know your boy loves to get snugly under one, two, three, five blankets on a winter's night.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Way too many blankets. I know blankets. And I know that's not a blanket. I don't care what anyone says. cotton, wool, polyester, even a damn cashmere blanket, would not look like an ancient satellite. Yeah, well, all the things you mentioned aren't a space blanket, which I have no idea what that is. It's still a type of blanket, yeah. Yeah, but is that like a term that gets thrown around where they're like, oh, we lost our space blanket.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And you're like, oh, is that for like wrapping up that being cozy? And it's like that, the space blanket insulates the V1 rocket during the launch separation portion of the flight. It's a term we use to describe fiberglass or something like that, you know. I think that's what it is. But don't call it a blanket then. Because that means one thing in life. Don't change that for everyone else. Yeah, you can't just throw a space in front of it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 We've changed the definition. It means something completely different now. It means a 200 meter long sheet of fiber glass. Yeah. But if anything, wouldn't it be even more disturbing if it was a blanket? Like, who's fucking blanket is this? What kind of intergalactic slumberer was taking a catnap 1,200 miles above the Earth's atmosphere?
Starting point is 00:25:51 But luckily, I'm not alone. I have Rory. But also in the story, I'm not alone, because UFOologists were also not convinced by this official explanation. They argued that the object appeared more structured, more substantial. Then something small but interesting happened.
Starting point is 00:26:10 NASA went and took down the photos off the website. Wow. Now, NASA would claim that they simply updated the website, breaking links to some of the photos dotted around the website. But, you know, it's pretty plausible, actually. Yeah, I hate when that happens. Oh, yeah, when you update your website,
Starting point is 00:26:32 oh, yeah, I hate when I update my website, and I just, oh, I just break the links to all the recently controversial photos of a mysterious object caught hovering above the website. atmosphere. Oh, it's so annoying. Cool, can you fix the links again? Oh, no. Oh, I guess we can't. Guess we can't. They're done. They're gone now. Yeah, but check out these. Oh, we got a picture of the moon. Oh, look at these new photos. I mean, it sounds like, it sounds like a hard thing to do, breaking links, but as to people who just recently pulled off a world tour. Yeah. And on the day of
Starting point is 00:27:09 announcing it, every link was broken and went to the wrong website and went to sites that didn't have tickets listed and every ticket was wrong. It can happen. It can happen for sure. We're not NASA. I know the way they say podcasting isn't rocket science, but it really isn't. They need to, someone should have used the way back machine. You use the way back machine? There you go. For those people who don't know, it's a site where you can turn back the clock and visit websites as they were in different periods of time. Yeah, a tremendously handy tool for, you know, digging up dirt on your enemies. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Digging up dirt on elected representatives. Yeah. Mostly digging up dirt. Or finding space debris. Space.com summed it up by saying, some interpreted this as a cover-up. Space.com? Space.com.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. I'm starting to think they'll know a little bit about space. Or they just have the $100,000 it would have cost to buy space.com. That's a great URL. In 2004. Rory, what in the interstellar f*** is happening here? First, signals from deep in space patterned throughout decades. Next, direct photos of a craft itself, potentially.
Starting point is 00:28:27 What's next? All blankets wake up and dominate Earth like sleeper cells? You can't ask me, what is happening here? When really so little has happened. A lot has happened over the course of a hundred years. Is there a... Do we know for certain that Nikola Tesla and his alien machine was specifically talking to the Black Knight satellite?
Starting point is 00:28:50 No. Okay, because I was like... Of course not. ...weeding for there to be some kind of link where there'd be like, and then we heard a signal from the satellite and it matched Nikola Tesla's receiving device. Yeah, but I'm just realizing that Tesla here in the signal and then NASA snapping the signal,
Starting point is 00:29:08 photos of the satellite, I was going to say it's exactly 100 years apart. Is 99 years apart? That's pretty significant. It's pretty interesting, actually. I think the point is that we get no signals from space. So, kind of. Yeah, I was like, I don't think that's true. But so it means that if then you do get something, and we're like, where the fuck that come from?
Starting point is 00:29:32 Then you see a mental thing. It's like 99 years later, though. So long, so much time has passed that the man who got the signal died and now we see something. Yeah, but these aliens, bro, they're like the Benegeserate. They met, what do they say? They measure their plans and generations or something like that. I've never heard that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That's from June. Oh, right. Of course. You know the ladies who control time? The Way Back Machine? Yeah. Yeah. They built the Way Back Machine.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Our plans are measured in generations. Go to waybackmachine.com. Critics, like Rory apparently, of the Black Knight theory, suggest that believers are just conflating the Nikola Tesla story and other stories with a totally separate unrelated event in the 90s, doing so creating a narrative that doesn't particularly exist. So, other than Krikilev's photos and Tesla's experiences, do we have any other pieces of the puzzle that might confirm the idea of the Black Knight satellite?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Because on the one hand, conspiracy theories can always be proven by cherry-picking events to fit a narrative. But on the other hand, in 1954, an article penned by former US Marine Donald Kehoe ran under the headline, artificial satellites circling Earth now, says ex-marine. Let's go. Kehoe claimed that a number of satellites had, been detected by the United States Air Force. 1954. Bearing in mind, this took place before any human satellite technology had been launched. Kehoe stated there was, quote, at least one and possibly two artificial satellites circling the Earth.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Hmm. And sure, was Kehoe promoting a book about UFOs at the time? Who isn't? Frankly. But let's move past that. What does this mean? It means that people were thinking about this kind of thing. It's pretty, even if we just, if I stopped trying to prove this true for a second, it is interesting that this was clearly on people's minds. Yeah. Over the last hundred years was the idea of a satellite before we invented satellites. Yeah, which is only confusing because what was it referred to as if satellites didn't exist?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Maybe they existed as a concept before they were put up in space? Yeah, I think they did, probably. And I mean... Because it's weird to be like, that's a satellite. People are like, what's a satellite? We haven't invented it yet. It's like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It's like we can say lightsaber. And lightsabers don't exist. But everyone knows what they are. Yeah. I guess there is lots of words for things that don't yet exist. But also a satellite is just doing something that, you know, moons, meteors, things like that already do. It just means getting caught in an orbit and rotating around the Earth. So I guess they already had the...
Starting point is 00:32:35 The word, the phrase. A father's love. You know, we've never felt it, but we can understand the concept. No Irish person has, by the way. It's not just, it's not specific to us. It's just, yeah. Yeah, purely conceptual. Science fiction.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Mm-hmm. The love of a father. Right. I assume that's the plot of June 3. June 2 has Timitee Shalime kissing Zendaya. It's like boring. We have chicks on Earth. Yeah, I want some crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:02 June 3, Timitay's dad in the movie. Oscar Isaac hugging him. Holy fuck, I'm on the edge of my seat. I've never, couldn't imagine this is my wildest dreams. Science fiction's unbelievable. Look, if we don't think this came from Earth, if we think this came from somewhere else, you know, the solution's easy. Newk it. Shoot it down. Exactly. Absolutely. Because no one on Earth is going to get mad at you. And if someone else out there and gets mad at you, guess what, it's Earth's problem. Well, the person is going to get mad on you is the person whose house it crushes like a piano in Looney Tunes, it just comes straight down. That's true, but that's why you've got to make sure it's absolutely obliterated.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It doesn't sound like we get any evidence out of that. Oh yeah, the evidence. Absolutely obliterated. It doesn't sound like you're planning on retrieving any of it. Yeah. But some would have said, you know, you had this former US Marine writing about it going, look, there's, there's, this sounds like modern whistleblowers, by the way. look, there's two satellites up there. They're not talking about it. People wondered if then there was a cover-up happening. Why is it not public knowledge? How does this person know about it? He's a Marine, in it?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah, but Marines have nothing to do with the sky. He's a space Marine? What is this Warhammer? He saw the memo, I guess. I don't know. Okay. You're like, again, if I, it's not on the page, I don't know. I couldn't be more clear. His senior officer, praying to the moon god of the Black Knight satellite. He kind of walked in, whoa! The guy's naked, he sacrificed a goat on the ship. Don't look at me, son. I should have, I'm reading the script and now I'm just reading.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I should have kept reading rather than just talking a bunch of shit just now. Shortly after this, in 1960, yeah, Time Magazine, reported on a mysterious dark object that was detected in orbit by the US Navy. At first, authorities claimed it was a Soviet spy satellite. but later changed their story saying it was actually the American Discover 8 satellite. So I guess this must have been right as they were launching these things. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know when satellites were the first one was put up there. It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Hey, Siri, remind me to speak truth to power in 14 minutes. Also, can you tell me when the first satellite was invented? Oh, yeah, 57. The series feeling shy apparently. Wow. I'm not talking. 1957 with the, you think you don't know it, with Russia's Sputnik 1. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Of course. Makes sense. Look, Rory, you don't have to take this story from me. In the 1970s, the Scottish astronomy writer, Duncan... I was sure that said Duncan Lunken. Duncan Loonen studied Jorgon Hall's 1928 accounts. Looking at the long delay radio echoes, Lunan theorized that the Black Knight may have been an alien probe
Starting point is 00:36:05 from a planet located in the planetary system of star Epsilon Butis. He claimed that the Black Knight may have been orbiting Earth for 13,000 years or more. Wow. Let's say for the sake of argument, that's true, ignoring the fact that he later retracted his statements, admitting he had made, quote, outright errors that his methods had been, quote, Quote unscientific.
Starting point is 00:36:29 If the Black Knight really has been orbiting Earth for that long, wouldn't there have been signs before Tesla? Well, believers of the Black Knight theory say yes and point to one event in European history in particular. That's right. We're going to start talking about sylphs. Oh, no. Not really.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Not really. Instead, we're talking about Nuremberg 1561, A celestial event was seen above the skies of Nuremberg in Germany. A newspaper at the time, don't laugh. Described, don't laugh. Described a f***inery. Remind me to beat Rory's ass in 31 minutes. Hey, Siri, remind me to block Kit in 31 minutes.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Stop sharing location. Described an aerial battle with, quote, hundreds of spheres, cylinders, and other odd-shaped objects that moved erratically in the same. sky but not only that one object was described as a large black triangle large blanket in the sky oh one big snuggly boy in space Rory thankfully thank god we have an artist's interpretation of the events to look at for sure notice anything weird and out of place uh whoa God damn.
Starting point is 00:37:58 All right, this is an old-timey illustration. You know what? You can tell this is an old photo. They painted the sun and the sun has a face. Remember when they used to do that? Yeah, yeah. Give them like a weirdly old face. Like when it would cut to hyper-realistic pictures
Starting point is 00:38:14 in an episode of SpongeBob. Yeah, so true. They just given them a really detailed graphic face. You never really thought that. But yeah, now that I think about it, the telitubby baby son is quite medieval. giving the sun a face at all. Yeah, it's super weird.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And in the middle of all these kind of like weird shapes and explosions in the sky, there is what looks like a Star Destroyer from Star Wars, a big pointy black triangle, sharp. I mean, the size of a city hovering in the sky. Yeah. You ain't missing that one, let me tell you. I know. Kind of honestly, just setting aside this entire episode,
Starting point is 00:38:54 almost nothing makes me more curious about history than this type of shit. Like, if you're... I actually kind of wish it was just this today. No, we started with this. No, you don't get to say that because I brought you sylphs. I brought you sylves and you laughed. And you laughed. I just feel like this is quite a strong...
Starting point is 00:39:13 Turn to Tucker Carlson. Well, on one episode of the podcast, we're talking about silfs and you laugh at me. Isn't that interesting? What does it say about you as a co-host? That you laugh? I just feel like this is... This is a strong start to the episode is that there was an intergalactic medieval space battle. I think the Tesla shit was pretty strong.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Sure. Sure. It all kind of concluded with him getting one, two, three through on a receiver. But I'm just saying, I want to know what happened. The clone wars happened on Earth. I want to know what happened, bro. Like, what is the, because this is the type of shit as well. Like, if you read about, ask a historian what the leading theory is, they'll just go,
Starting point is 00:39:53 we think everyone went mad for 20 minutes that day. And it's like, you. Well, don't say that to a historic you. That's so mean. I hope you. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:40:05 it's just like, there's never a satisfying explanation, right? They just want to wave it away. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, I don't know. They've just painted a bunch of weird shit. It's like, there's so many objects in the sky.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And there's houses burning and there's a star destroyer. Pretty crazy. Like, what the hell happened? I don't know. So, Rory, from the 16th century, right up to the modern day, people have been fascinated by the story of the Black Knight satellite. And indeed, it continues through to the present day when the case has risen to prominence again. In 2017, a video appeared on TikTok showing the alleged destruction of the satellite itself.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Whoa! How? Let's watch and find out. Okay. All right. Kit is showing me a video of what looks like a comet kind of like approaching the Earth. Oh, that's important. Secret Illuminati war plane approaching...
Starting point is 00:41:09 Oh! It's shooting down the Black Knight satellite. Oh my God. This is huge. A secret Illuminati war plane. I've never even heard of that. Where are you getting that from? They're there they're saying that's the alien escape pod from the satellite. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's Fascinating so wasn't a satellite? Well, it was a man satellite apart Are they men really into the idea of an alien escape? It returns to space. Okay, so you've never seen this no You've never seen this video and and you're showing it to me this is it's it's astonishing. It really is and it's over. That's wild. Okay, hold on. We don't need to watch it again.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Are you sure? Yeah, I feel like you didn't, because you didn't really seem to vibe with it? Absolutely positive. At no point did they even show it was the satellite. It was just a glowing object. Yeah, but it says Black Knight shot down video. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Okay. Okay. So, uh, all right. Hey, I think we're done here, actually. I didn't know you would just believe anything that was written down. So let me try this one. I think Roy's right. I think I believe that too.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I do. I wrote time for conclusions on the notes app. At the end of every episode of this paranormal life, we have to decide within our faculties, our expert opinion as veteran paranormal researchers, whether we think our given case is paranormal or not. We have a lot to play with here today. Tons of stories, tons of evidence.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Frankly, um, Rory, in the case of the Black Knight satellite, where is your head at? I have so many questions. Uh-oh. Because the script's done, so... Paper thin. I know you showed me a... I know you showed me a TikTok video of it being destroyed, but are there any real scientists who still know where it is today? Because I was under, from my limited knowledge, I was under the assumption it's still flown around up there. Let me be clear. The scientific community doesn't believe in any of this.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Sorry, I thought we were all on the same page here. I thought we were all... Was that not... I thought that was clear. Do they have the location? They don't think it's real. They don't think it exists. Weirdly, they also don't know where the death star is.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And they're having a really hard time locating leprechauns. All right, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something that'll inform your little question. Yeah, NASA currently have very little information on the whereabouts of the unicorn, because they don't think it's real. You know how many
Starting point is 00:44:05 satellites are in space right now? I didn't know. I had to ask Google. Oh, man, it's a disgusting amount. 7,560. Actually thought it was more than that. I kind of thought it was more, but still, it's insane. Yeah. It is kind of sad because they do an artist's
Starting point is 00:44:21 interpretation of what Earth looks like. And it's like, oh, we're just a horrible species, aren't we? It junk. We've almost blocked out the sun with just space junk. Yeah. It's true. There's very little legislation around having to retrieve your space trunk. You know, when a satellite goes up there, if it's out of commission, if it goes offline, it's just like, oh, man, anyway.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But definitely recycle, guys. Definitely, yeah, definitely spend your time kind of separating out, your plastics, your, your aluminium cans, your papers, put them in their little bins, because it's definitely making a really huge difference, guys. You should do that. It does make it. Oh, yeah, let me. Oh, I've finished eating my yogurt pot. Oh, I better clean it out because otherwise a fucking turtle will get it stuck on his head.
Starting point is 00:45:12 God forbid he would get to eat some f*** that known yogurt. Probably love it, keep them alive a little longer. Oh, yeah, but it's making such a great difference, guys. I can't tell what you're angry about. The turtles don't get to have yogurt. They deserve it. They tell us that we have to do the recycling. They're not even recycling.
Starting point is 00:45:31 The Illuminati's not even recycling. Even with our war planes, shooting down satellites. I'm wearing a suit, by the way. If I was listening to this, that's how seriously I'm taking this episode. Kid is bringing a weird energy to the room today. Okay, so that was my first question, by the way. We're going to be here all day. So the photographs of the thing aren't real?
Starting point is 00:45:55 The photographs are real. So it does exist. But they think it's a blanket. Okay. So that thing is still out there. The blanket is. I guess. You could probably get a photo of that today.
Starting point is 00:46:05 They're tracking the blanket. No one's tracking the blanket because they're like it's a piece of shit. On the bottom of our shoe, we don't care. Clean out your yogurt pots. That's what they're shouting at everyone who asks. Because there have been, this isn't the only time. that NASA or scientists have theorized, that objects that have entered our immediate vicinity
Starting point is 00:46:30 have been probes sent from intelligent life forms out in the galaxy. Sure. The famous one that I'm actually surprised you didn't bring up at the end is the cigar. Didn't need to. The cigar. You of course needed to. I didn't need to.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Because there's one that scientists do believe is real that exists, which is the cigar. gets doing the crazy head of Oji. Why am I trying to prove your case? Why am I trying to give evidence at the end of your case? Oh, Muamua, mua. Yes. Do you know about it?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Of course I know a lot of it. Do you want to mention it? And we can actually then cut me bringing it up and you can pretend like you. I barely remember, to be honest, just crack on, tell everyone. It's fine. It was an asteroid that entered our solar system
Starting point is 00:47:18 that did not look like it was made, organically. It was a very strange shape that looked like it had been traveling for something ridiculous, probably like a billion light years. And very suspicious. People thought it was a probe scent. I think there's another one. Yeah, we talked about it on an episode recently. There is another one too. Because we didn't know about it. And someone had to email us and be like, oh, you need to, this thing's going to like swing by Earth real close. It looks like a pillow. It's got a camera on it. It's got a ring doorbell on it. So there's more out there that I guess people do believe in.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah. Scientists. Yeah. But this one today is even the scientists are saying no. Even the scientists are pretty much saying no. All right. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Are you ready for your conclusions? I feel like you are. Sure. Why don't I take the lead? Why don't you start us off? Which is to say, look. This is, I do genuinely think this is really interesting. This photos are awesome and it's a pretty, I think it's pretty understandable that they would cause a fire online in people's comments and their mentions talking about this because it's like, what the hell is that thing?
Starting point is 00:48:35 And people are like, oh, it's just a piece of metal. It's like, doesn't look like it. Sure. So it makes sense. But I think we can sum this up to say, this is a conspiracy theory, guys. We don't actually cover that many conspiracy theories. almost contrary to popular belief. It's not that we have anything against them.
Starting point is 00:48:55 We just sometimes they stray a bit weird. But this is a good one because it's UFO related. And the nature of a conspiracy theory is that you ignore all the really obvious facts about a situation and you kind of cherry pick the unobvious, more obscure facts that make your story make sense. Yeah. And listen, guys, we're living in a time where probably for, like 60 years, this was the most exciting thing. A weirdly shaped bit of metal floating around space. That was enough to have people obsessing over it for generations. People probably dedicated their
Starting point is 00:49:33 lives to investigating this object and coming up with possible theories. Every other week, I see a declassified military video of an object disappearing. I see an object being hit by a missile and floating under the water we're now seeing the weirdest shit of all time dropped on the timeline every other day so even though this Black Knight satellite I've heard it a lot I think it's like kind of an iconic object we're so far past that now we're so far past that we're actually seeing objects
Starting point is 00:50:07 on earth doing weird stuff and even the way these things get talked about has been flipped on its head where it used to be the people wanted to know and the people in power didn't want to talk about it Whereas I think I saw a clip of a comedian, podcaster and kind of insane person, Tim Dillon, the other day talking about all the like UFO, UAP news that drops. You know, Pentagon releases, new video or whatever. And he's like, don't you notice how this shit always drops around like a different controversy?
Starting point is 00:50:41 Oh, yeah. You know, it's like, a new UFO video just dropped. Whoa. And it's like, that's crazy. Where's the Epstein files? But it's like, yeah, dude has a point. Dude has a little bit of a point that there's an, there's an attention game at play. I want to know what was happening when the Black Knight satellite showed up.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Right. We got to look back. Yeah, way back machine. Yeah. So, it's a no. For sure, double no. It's a conspiracy theory. It's a really fun one that I enjoyed investigating.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And I think you can tell the researcher, you and did a great job and had fun investigating as well. Thanks for checking out this episode. I hope you have enjoyed it. If you like the ones about UFOs, you know surely by now we've done so many of them. There's lots to sink your teeth into. But there's even more over on Patreon. We've occasionally done roundups of the latest UFO news on the after party,
Starting point is 00:51:36 as well as the bonus episode. We did a pretty recent one on the after party. Yeah, I think we talked about the Black Knight satellite on the bonus episode, weirdest shit in space. Right. Or like five weirdest things in space or something like that. And we've talked about testing. before in the is Donald Trump a Time Traveler episode.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Another classic that I definitely remembered. Lots to go back if you're interested in any of this stuff today. There's plenty more. Yeah, you guys know spooky season may be over, but we're keeping you plied and entertained and hopefully happy full of paranormal content as we round out 2025. We've had a brilliant year so far,
Starting point is 00:52:12 and we have a lot more in store for you. Patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life is the place to get all that extra content. Over there, you can also get other rewards, including a shout-out at the end of the show. I'd say, let's do a couple of those roaring. Let's do it. So a special thank you to M. Small. What are you?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Medium or a small? I'm confused. M. Small, middle name, large. I like this. Don't even let them know your size, you know, in a world of, as we said, trying to keep things classified. Don't want anyone know what size a shirt you will. are. What's your waist? Doesn't matter. I could be four foot one. I could be seven foot three. Yeah. Or maybe it's like M in the James Bond universe, but like that's capital M. This is
Starting point is 00:53:01 M small, a small M. Oh, I see. It's like the assistant to M or something. So they make like gadgets that don't actually kill people, but like minor inconveniences. I think you're thinking of Q. Yep, thinking of Q. Yeah. That would be small Q small. Q small is out a dope mix tape last year on the Bruiser Brigade Records. Thanks M. Small. Thanks. Actually, lastly, today, but not leastly, to Geoffrey McGee. Thank you, Jeffrey. Roy, you've heard of death metal?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Oh, yeah. Mr. McGee invented something called Jeff Metal. What's Jeff Metal? It's kind of way more fucked up, actually. He can't play any instruments, so it's just him smack at a bunch of pots and pans about the place and jumping up and down on his kitchen floor. That does sound like music. Well, no, it is.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It is. It is. Because he's got, he's got a good rhythm. Let me tell you that. But he just, he doesn't really know, like, guitar or singing or drums or anything like that. He doesn't know drums? No. You said he's just hitting pots and pants. This is Jeff metal, dude. That's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, the way it goes. Okay. Well, Jeff free, you're about to be Jeff incarcerated. What? Jeff Free? No, I get that. Why is he?
Starting point is 00:54:19 Because he's joining the commune. It's one big prison. Don't call us that. Yeah, whoa. A lot of people banging pots and pans in the commune. Let me tell you. Making noise out of their jail cells. It's because they're thanking the nurses for COVID.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Clink, clank, clang, clang, clang, clang. Oh, he did such a good job. Also food, please. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So come on in, Jeffrey. I'm going to listen to some Jeff medal on the way home, I think, after this. Thanks for tuning in.
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