This Paranormal Life - Did A Ufo Appear In 743ad The Sky People
Episode Date: January 11, 2026History is fun to read — it teaches us about our collective past and what life was like through human history. But occasionally the events threaten to re-write human history itself… The Airship o...f Clonmacnoise is small and strange story, practically a footnote in the global history of Christian texts, and yet it is repeated across several books and manuscripts as fact. The story details a craft and its crew descending on an Irish church in 743AD, in a manner that in 2024 sounds a lot like an encounter with extra-terrestrials. There’s only one way to find out. #Investigate! Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube Join our Secret Society Facebook Community Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes! Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/store Intro music by www.purple-planet.com Edited by Philip Shacklady Research by Ewen Friers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey everyone, Rory here from This Paranormal Life.
We have just returned from a month of touring the podcast across America and Canada,
which means unfortunately we haven't had a ton of free time to record the show.
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Welcome to this paranormal life.
bonus episode.
Yay!
Nice.
How's it going?
Hello.
Welcome.
Rory, my goodness, you are listening to this paranormal life is the November bonus episode.
How to check my piece of paper, check what month it is.
So look, whether you've been attempting MoVember over here like Rory Groveember, like Phil there in the back, or no, not November, like me here.
You came in all of us way too fast.
I'm sure you did great.
Rory, how the hell are you doing?
hell you do it. It is officially November. By the time people are listening, it might be December.
Yeah. It's freezing outside. It's winter, in it? You're bringing a lot of energy to the pod today,
because usually we start with like a welcome to this paranormal life. Bonus is that. And we do like
a big scream there. But you just went, welcome to it. Just straight at a hundred percent entry point.
I'm excited. Yeah. It was cool. You attack me when I don't come with enough energy.
That's true. When I come with a normal amount of energy, Rory turns into a Navy SEAL's Buds training officer.
Like drop and give me 50.
This is, hey, this is the problem with being someone who's always excited to have a good time
is sometimes you can be the wrong type of person who wants to have a good time
where you're like, you're not having enough good time.
You're having too much good time now.
So, hey, I'm going to let you do your thing, Kit.
I'm going to let you take it away today.
Okay.
So you're going to kind of not interrupt the usual 1900 times you interrupt during an episode?
Well, we'll see.
You're going to ideally let me just kind of expose.
my evidence at a leisurely pace.
I don't want you to expose anything.
All over my evidence as I'm telling you about it.
That would be great.
That would be great for once.
I'm surprised to hear there's evidence.
Because this is a bonus episode as well.
Shouldn't have said that.
Look,
wherever you are in the world.
You're about to stop hitting your script off things.
Wherever you are in the world, sorry.
It's making so much noise.
Wherever you are in the world,
get cozy, bitch.
Because it's time for the bonus episode.
Don't swear it.
Which is our opportunity.
Of course, to bring you an unsolved paranormal mystery.
Let's cut the shit and set the scene and wind the clock back.
13 centuries.
Jesus.
It's about 700 AD in Ireland.
It's a misty and murky time in history.
Christianity was relatively new,
and the pagan ways hadn't quite died out.
They were still practiced in dark corners of the country.
Hmm, okay.
Cool time to be in D. Emerald Isle.
Right, sorry.
Let's just get in.
Let me just address.
just the mic's here.
Die Emerald Dial.
Too loud.
Gotta love that high note.
I got put on blast the last time we talked about the Emerald Dial on the main podcast
because apparently you bet your buttons isn't a real phrase.
And I think I said it six times.
People were like, that's not a real phrase, you bet your buttons.
Right.
Last time you were in the temple bar area of Dublin, you said it so many times you got kicked out of the pub.
The land is wild and thick with forests.
there are no cities or large towns yet the only important buildings at this time in history are monasteries,
either hidden away in glens or on rocky islands, like Spike Island.
Basically, I'm 1,000% picturing runescape here.
Everyone's wearing leather skirts, wooden sword.
Hell you.
Wooden helmet.
Yes.
Now, one of the most important monasteries on the island was Clon McNish.
It was planted exactly in the middle of the island
and scholars from around the world travelled to study there.
But it turned out that this monastery would soon attract more than just Austrian monks
because in 743 AD something very strange happened.
It was during Mass on a Sunday in 743 AD.
The congregation at Clon McNish were packed in to the cold pews.
when suddenly from outside the church they heard a strange noise.
The deafening platter of metal on stone and wood.
Whoa!
Many got up and rushed to the door, eager to see what had happened.
Metal on stone on wood? That's the sound of a medieval drive-by.
Instead of the sound of machine guns outside, it's just rocks and swords clanging.
It's jousting.
Brother Deermud, looketh promptly at the mason-wark.
above thee.
Whoa, Brother Lucan, something hath affixed itself to the archway of the holy vestibule.
Now this was 743, so I might have to slightly translate here.
Oh shit, look up, Browski, something's caught on the door.
Thank you. That makes a lot more sense.
You see, attached to the archway in the entrance to the church was an anchor.
At least that's what the witnesses described.
a metal anchor.
It had smashed into the side of the church.
Witnesses said that a rope was coming out of the anchor
and that it was pulled tight and stretched into the sky.
What?
Straight into the cloud,
so they couldn't see what it was attached to.
They couldn't believe what they were witnessing.
Jesus is docking ship!
Where are we dropping, boys?
Oh my God.
He said to the archangels.
That's, if you are a priest, surely this is the dream that heaven has decided to dock at your church.
You're like, I'm doing something, right?
The anchor's coming from the clouds.
This is the mothership, basically coming home.
Yeah, I mean, it's either that or howells moving castle or something.
That's kind of the energy we're exacting here.
I would agree.
Right now they're sitting on the edge of their little hard church pews.
They are with bated breath waiting to see what is up there.
Don't wait.
Start climbing.
As they know, don't start climbing.
Start climbing.
There's only one way up.
And as the monks and parishioners stood in disbelief,
the clouds eventually began to pass,
and they could see there was a huge ship in the sky.
Climb down.
Climb down.
It's not God.
What's that flag?
What's the flag on that ship?
Is that an Irish flag?
It's a skull and crossbones.
It's the Jolly Roger.
You know, I didn't know this until that recently.
Do you know the Irish flag wasn't always?
is the Irish flag.
What, the tricolor?
Yeah.
What was it originally?
I think it was maybe just green with a harp.
Oh, that's cool.
You know like the golden harp and the green.
Yeah.
I think they were using that for a bit.
And then I think it was after independence they started.
Because I think the tricolor was like a rebellion, civil war thing.
Oh, right, right.
But before it was, I think, the harp.
Damn.
Let me tell you, flags got boring.
Real quick, didn't they?
There's a lot of flags that are just, this one's white and red.
This one's red and white.
This one's got a bit of blue in the circle of a red square.
You know, I respect the countries that still rock a wild flag.
Right.
Whales.
Yeah, just a dragon on it.
Not too many countries with cryptids on it.
Yeah.
I would say.
I think there was a huge controversy recently because they got rid of the dragon's dick on the Welsh flag.
They changed the dragon
And before he had a little dick
We used to be a proper country
This country literally used to have some bollocks
Hold up
Sorry, I don't want to derail us too much
But I'm fairly sure I didn't make this up
I have this on good authority
We've got to text Gavin Murphy as fast as possible
Welsh flag dragon penis
Yes, sorry
This was
It was a campaign by local Welsh people
saying that the dragon should have a penis
On the nation's flag
What it didn't have one?
I don't think he did have one.
I never had one.
But traditionally, every depiction of the Welsh dragon has the penis.
So I like that.
So whoever made the flag quietly removed, didn't tell him,
cut his dick off.
Yeah.
Because they're saying if you want an authentic Welsh dragon,
it has a cock and possibly balls.
I like that the guy who designed the flag was like,
do you have any idea how big the flags we fly at castles are?
It's like, yeah, the dick looks small when you're looking on a foe.
but when the flag is 30 feet across,
the dick is ginormous.
It's huge.
Dick game crazy.
I should have Googled this because I'm now getting some really weird.
Oh my.
Oh.
Images.
I'm getting borderline furry artwork here.
There's just one with a thick booty.
They've not even drawn anything.
They've just applied a kind of ballooning effect on Photoshop to the ass.
Okay, here you go.
I guess at one point the dragon was on a coin and you can see they've circled it.
It did originally have a penis.
Let me get a good look at this thing.
And they're like, hey, if you want to put them on a flag, you've got to keep the penis.
This is hard for audio listeners to understand.
The dick was pretty tasteful and in keeping with the rest of the image.
It did not distract from the image of the dragon.
You wouldn't even notice it's there.
Did it add to it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Added a couple inches.
But yes, more wild flags.
Yes to Welsh independence and yes to putting the dick back on the dragon.
Let's go.
All right, recap.
A little bit of a little.
Huge ship in the sky amongst the clouds above them.
And it had landed by attaching to the church.
Brother Deermud, look, there are men aboard the ship.
The people gasped.
They could see strange men on board the ship looking down at the earth.
Down.
But Rory, if they were...
This wasn't bizarre enough, it was about to go from a C.E. 3 to a C.E. 4. A close encounter of the fourth kind.
Thank you for elaborating. One of the quote, strange men left the ship high in the sky and followed the rope down to earth.
Whoa! They described that his head was pointed down towards the ground as if the air was water and he was diving downwards to the church.
He was climbing headfirst down?
Like Spider-Man?
Yeah, basically, as far as they were concerned, he was swimming down, but through the air.
All right, shoot him.
Do you all have guns yet?
Shoot them.
Because they do, for sure, they've got guns.
They probably shoot lasers.
This is an angel standing next to Brother Diamud.
I say shoot him.
What?
Oh, yeah, sorry, angels are real too.
I just came.
I'm just here for backup.
Start shooting?
Sir, shoot.
Yeah.
I wanted to show up to say that we don't claim him.
We don't know what that is.
Just in case you thought it was an angel.
I want to let you know it isn't.
Brother Lucan, the being hath departed towards the earth.
What should thou do?
Break its legs.
As soon as the being arrived towards the bottom of the rope,
the people of the church rushed to grab it and apprehend it.
It looks like the strange man was trying to free the anchor from the church.
But the bishop was on sight and saw the old.
altercation. He ordered his people to let the man go. He noticed that the man from the boat seemed to be drowning. The longer he was on ground level and he was trying to get back to his ship. As soon as he was released, he flew frantically back to the surface. With this, the rope was cut from above and the anchor left behind and the ship flew off into the clouds. What the hell just happened all right?
no idea. I've never heard of anything like this in my life, nor has anyone. It's got to be aliens,
isn't it? Maybe, I don't know, interdimensional time travelers? This is very strange stuff.
Look, I am conscious that we are covering a case from 1,300 years ago here. Sure. In 743 AD,
we don't exactly have ring camera footage of the events. But thankfully, what we do have are ancient
manuscripts that describe the events. The next best things.
primary source is...
Because it's like video evidence, first-hand testimonies, and ancient texts...
Yeah.
From 13 centuries ago.
That are so dusty that, like, honestly, the words are in a jumble.
God knows what they say.
I mean, as I say, this happened as 743 AD.
I'm surprised Rory hasn't tried to argue yet that cameras were invented in 742 AD.
Usually that's why these investigations go.
Well, we don't need to worry too much about the manuscripts, because Kit...
I think that you, if you're pardon the pun, dropped a little bit of information that is quite important
in today's case.
Gone.
We still have the anchor.
Right.
Because it was left behind.
I assume this anchor formed a whole religion around it.
Now people come worship the anchor or something, you know?
The anchor has been lost.
All right.
It's quite, all right, yeah.
Let me get there.
Traditionally, I would assume it's infamously quite a hard object to lose.
It's kind of the point of it.
It's hard to move.
It doesn't move.
Yeah, it kind of stays in one spot.
So much so, it can stop other objects from moving.
Let's get back to the manuscripts.
It's so difficult to move.
Let's get back to those manuscripts, man.
Listen, these manuscripts are going to illuminate the whole thing.
All right, stay with you.
It's like losing a metal detector.
It's like that's the thing that was supposed to find stuff, you know?
It should be...
Well, that would just be ironic.
It's not difficult.
Yeah, that's true, to be fair.
Okay.
I see what you're saying.
There's a degree of irony here.
Sorry, 1,300 years.
Do I have to say that again?
That's a long time.
Yeah.
For what?
To lose stuff in.
I can lose a set...
I think we've talked about this before.
This one of the f***ing sitting behind the mic, I can lose a set of keys in 30 seconds flat.
Oh, oh.
They're gone.
God knows where they are.
It's a me.
I'm going to need to borrow your keys to go to the toilet.
Yeah, it's a miracle you remember to bring your keys on this trip.
It is, isn't it?
But, you know.
But this is a huge immovable object.
You know, we didn't lose the pyramids.
Yeah.
That's maybe not true.
I think we lost some of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, we definitely lost a lot.
The point is we don't know what we lost.
Which, actually, that's a great damn point.
Let me say that again.
No, no, no.
Because normally we don't know what we lost.
Don't rewere.
But thanks to the manuscripts, can I please say what we lost?
the manuscript say. Okay, sure. The main one in this case is a Norse manuscript called, and I don't know
how to pronounce this, and I don't think I'm going to get the answer online. So I'm just going to say it.
Connigsskius or King's Mirror. That's what it translates to. And it mentions this physical
evidence. It says, as soon as he was free, he hastened his way up again to the ship. And as soon as he
came up, they cut the rope and then sailed on their way out of the sight of men. And the anchor has
ever since laying as a witness of the event in that church.
We believe it has been lost, stolen or destroyed in that time.
The huge anchor that crashed into the church.
We don't know how big it was.
I assume it was quite big.
Okay, so these people were at church.
Yeah.
Praying, doing the regular service in the middle of Ireland,
and a huge, presumably metal anchor slammed into the side of them from a skyboat.
And then a guy came down and, well, what did he even do?
He tried to free it.
Well, that's what they interpreted it as.
Okay.
That he was trying to, that the anchor had been lodged there, but maybe they either changed their mind or it was accidental and he was trying to move it along.
How do you hit the one church in Ireland?
There's nothing else there at this point in time.
It is fields of grass and sheep and you managed to hit the one church in the middle of it.
This is the paranormal version of, you know when you're in a really bad mood.
Yeah.
And then your wired headphones get caught in the door handle.
You're like, I'm going to smash something.
Or the like your sleeve gets caught in the door handle or something.
Yeah, it's the worst.
I did that the other day with my t-shirt and it ripped a whole straight through the t-shirt.
I was like, you're kidding me.
Oh, my God.
And you can't get revenge on the door, you know?
So you just have to bottle it all up and unleash it at some poor checkout assistant.
You just got to bottle it up and then kind of hand it down to your kids, you know,
through kind of bad parenting.
What I'm saying is anything's possible.
Right.
Okay.
I like that attitude towards any paranormal case.
That doesn't mean we don't need some evidence and some testimonies.
What about the rope?
What about the rope?
It's a bonus episode.
What about the rope?
It's a bonus episode.
I like to like, just because of the bonus episode, we don't do conclusions.
I've backtracked to me, we don't even have evidence.
You have anything?
They don't even bring a story.
So to be clear, but it was normal rope
Because they just cut it
It wasn't like space rope
Okay, I'm glad you brought this up
I think we best address this early on
You gotta stop with the papers
You gotta address this early on
In the episode
You're hitting them everywhere
Don't slow me down
You said at the beginning
You're gonna let me cook today
You were gonna let Tim cook
The ingredients are bad
The ingredients are bad
And you've started cooking
And I just need to rework it as we're going
Yeah I think we should address early
on that this case only really gets interesting when you, as we've done in many cases before,
we think about, do you think this thing fell out of a coconut tree? It exists within the context
of all that has been, no Kamala Harris. We have to remember that whenever we're looking at,
let's just call it what it is, ancient astronauts, I'm not saying it's UFOs yet or aliens,
but ancient astronauts, that is something in the sky back in the day. True. The people back then
of the language that we have today.
So they didn't know space existed.
Right.
So they weren't talking about space rope.
So that's where it starts to get interesting.
We start coming up with...
They knew space existed, I'm pretty sure.
I don't think that's true.
Well, they did, right?
I think 700.
They knew about planets.
Nah, they were just talking about stars and shit.
Really? Seven hundred.
I think they were like, oh, the stars.
And we're the center of the universe.
verse and God rotates our, because when was Galileo?
And Galileo was sure, because we're talking about Christians, the Catholic Church, like,
executed or wanted to execute Galileo, didn't they?
Because he was like, oh, by the way, planets exist.
And they were like, we'll kill you, you mother, say that again, bitch.
That's not in our book.
It's not in the Bible.
Yeah.
No, you're probably right.
I forgot just how far back we are.
Right.
That is crazy.
So imagine for a second that if there was,
a UFO in the sky. What language would they use to describe a UFO? Maybe a ship. Strange
men on the ship. You know, a rope coming down. Stay with me. Here's the rope a tractor beam.
I don't know. These are the questions. He was swimming. He was swimming down the rope. He floated up and down.
Yeah. Don't know why they have an anchor. The anchor is another thing. That's like a space anchor.
It could be like a... I still don't have the words to describe them.
I don't know, space rock.
Could be like a reconnaissance drone.
Yes.
And then the mothership was like, hey, we got to come pick it up.
Love the energy.
You bring it to this.
But you are right.
You know, when we look at, we've talked about ancient aliens before on this podcast.
And any time they appear in kind of even old Egyptian tales, allegedly, they're referred to as like gods with chariots of flames that can fly in the sky.
So it's all, it's contextualized from within your understanding of the universe.
Exactly. So if we're looking in a biblical description, maybe it is chariots and things.
We're looking at a early medieval UFO sighting. And so this is bordering on Viking times.
So it is, they're talking about ships, ships and men and anchors.
Right, right.
But Rory, you're attacking the fact that.
that this evidence is gone and that is fair. We really should have it. One, it's a long time.
Two, and I am getting to a point here, but two, lots of upheaval in Ireland. Also, over this time period,
Ireland is going to be kind of invaded and reinvaded and colonised and settled and civil war and everything between this point and the present day.
I think to be honest, this case is a little similar to just simply the legend of the Holy Grail. I mean, the Holy Grail
supposedly a physical object,
the cup that Jesus drank out of
at the Last Supper, right? Isn't that the point?
I think that's it, yeah.
Which makes it magic for some reason.
And, you know,
so that's why it's so tantalizing
is because in theory, yeah, there was a Jesus.
So in theory, there was a cup
and sure he probably did drink out of it
before he was executed.
So where is it?
But yet we can't find it.
And there's lots of dribs and drabs of legends
of it moving around.
And it's this frustrating thing of,
well, because it was important,
people kind of fought over it and moved around.
And there's legends that it went to Ethiopia and it was buried.
And there's legends it went to different parts of the world.
Is it the same thing here?
Imagine that there could be an ancient alien.
I mean, that's such a frustrating idea that there could be an ancient alien artifact right?
Not here where I live.
In Ireland, just sitting somewhere.
First off, it's a lot easier to hide a cup.
to move a cup around and bury a cup, hide a cup among other cups.
Sure. If this is a presumably 30 foot metal anchor, how is it even leaving the field?
Have you seen an anchor before?
They're f*** huge, what are you talking about?
Some of them are huge, some of them are less huge.
Again, and we're talking about an item so famously huge and heavy...
No.
That it stops a boat, an object 40 times its own size.
size from moving in the ocean?
Heavy, yes.
Large.
The Titanic's anchor, yes.
The size of this room, probably.
Sure.
A smaller boat.
That's still quite large.
It is large.
I'll give you that.
Do we have any details on how large the ship was?
Nope.
Okay.
Well, that's convenient.
Perspective hadn't been invented yet.
No, I don't know.
It was just too far away.
Okay.
Look, I wish we even had a man.
script diagram of what was happening, but we don't. This is like 700 years again before even the
printing press coming along. We don't even have an old-timey illustration. Bro, any book that existed at
this point was handwritten. Wow. There was no printing of any kind. Because I was going to say one of our,
well actually our last bonus episode was on the demon drummer of Tedworth. Yeah. A case that took
place still a lot more recent than this. Right. And it did have illustrations
of the events
but they were just kind of hand
drawings so I was kind of hoping
we'd have something in today's case
but still not
yeah I would call that a misallocation of resources
the demon drummer
very weird great case
this might be more important
just from a paranormal history
I'm saying if it happens
and you're there and you've got the pen
I like that there's a monk sitting there like
I'm going to save my ink
I think some crazier shit's going to happen tomorrow
I'm not going to bother
drawing this. But what we do have is more manuscripts. Okay. The, that King's Mirror, is that what I said,
Kings Mirror? It was. That was not the only account of the airship and Clon McNish.
After all, the more people we can find talking about these events, that gives us more information
and it makes it more likely that the whole thing happened in the first place. Another important
medieval manuscript, the book of invasions from the book of Lentster. Whoa. Is an 11th? I mean,
That really tells you everything you need to know about Irish history.
There's a manuscript about Irish history called The Book of Invasions.
That was really all the history.
And it mentions this ancient airship hundreds of years later.
They're like, what about the book of good times?
We'll write it when it happens.
When we have one.
Yeah, that's a single A5 sheet of paper.
It's not a book.
Oh, in one account, the strange man came down to earth to retrieve a spear rather than an anchor.
Okay.
I hope that's not true.
Because the anchor is the whole point.
There's the whole thing in today's story.
But the point being...
It's like, could the anchor exist on Earth?
Maybe not.
Some say it's a spear.
It's like, well, that was the one piece of evidence we had left behind.
But again, it goes to show, is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
They're going, is it an anchor or it?
Is it a spear?
It's some six-dimensional space object made of metal.
that. No one said it was that. So no, it's a Roershack test. You look at it and you're like,
it's an anchor, it's a spear. No one can even pin down what it is. Oh God. Well, that makes it
really hard to prove, doesn't it? Yeah. Okay. So we're going to hunt her on all the secondhand shops,
all the charity shops in Ireland trying to find the thing, I don't even know what we're
looking for. Could be a teddy bear. I do like the idea of just a bunch of creatures in a boat,
essentially spearfishing humans. And then they miss and they have to swim down and get it again. And
they're like, all right, let's try Canada next.
We as humanity deserve that, I think.
For sure.
But it turns out that something strange taking place over the skies of the monastery
is actually a common theme that pops up time and time again.
In another book, The Annals of Ulster, it says that sky ships came back to Klon McNeish
in 744 and 748.
What?
But why this monastery?
Why, Klon McNish?
Well, it was in the middle of the country, like I said, an important building too, but would aliens or outside observers really know that or care?
There is one other clue.
One story says that the airship also appeared above Telton, just 60 miles from Klon McNish.
And it's that location that is very interesting to modern UFologists.
You see, Teltan has huge Iron Age earthworks, large mounds of earth shaped into dramatic circular patterns.
Rory, let's take a look.
Okay.
All right, very cool.
Yeah, Kit is showing me what you would assume is like crop circles, essentially, just designs built, patterns built into the grounds.
These are kind of traditional, like ancient Celtic kind of formation.
Yeah, right, because we did a case set in Ireland that I think maybe it was a bonus episode,
maybe it was a regular episode, but somebody went into one of these.
It was just outside of Belfast.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
Giants rings.
And there was the Giants Ring and there was the men here in the middle and it got really foggy.
So yeah, these kind of structures are linked with the paranormal.
That's right.
They are mostly believed to have been created for defensive.
or ceremonial purposes,
but they would also crucially be essentially the only physical landmark
in the entire country visible from the sky.
Is it possible that UFOs saw these giant patterns
and it caused them to investigate?
I like that as a theory.
I don't really know what the aliens are going to get out of that
if they're like, hey, it's just a cool design over here.
Let's go check that out.
I think when you think about it from the context
that if aliens flew over the world today,
they wouldn't know where to begin.
Because we have lit up planet Earth like a Christmas tree.
There is, you know, major cities, oil rigs out in the ocean.
Think of the sheer amount of artificial light on Earth, the population hubs.
Yeah.
Think back then to 700 AD.
There is nothing.
The landscape is essentially completely
organic.
Especially in Ireland.
They're like it's the rings on the floor
or the church in the middle of nowhere.
Which one do you want to hit up?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Like back then,
the entire nation wasn't deforested
for farming land or anything yet.
There were no major cities.
The only cities were probably in Constantinople
or Rome.
Right.
And even then, they had no artificial light whatsoever.
So the only thing
that you could see,
which would vary or differ,
would be,
something like that, something clearly man-made.
It's a bit like if you're cast on a desert island,
you know, you classically grab as many rocks as you can
and then spell out S-O-S using rocks.
Because if someone was flying over that island,
they'll see something man-made, it'll catch the eye.
Right, right, right.
I'd probably just start fires on the island.
Start as many fires as I could.
You burned down the whole forest.
All the coconuts, roasted to oblivion.
Every animal killed.
Every animal cooked
Every animal's cooked for dinner
That's right
Look it's basically
Call it Independence Day theory
That aliens or UFOs
Would just go straight to the Empire State Building
Or the White House
Yeah
Look there is a lot to digest
In all of that
But interestingly
The airship of Klon McNish
Is just one of many
Floating Ship stories
That appeared throughout Europe
In the Middle Ages
In two of two
215 AD on the eve of Hannibal's invasion of Italy, the scholar Stefano Breventano reported that there were celestial ships seen over Rome.
I don't know what you're going to say about that.
It's hard to prove UFOs are real now, today, this year.
So I don't know why you think going back several thousand years is going to make it easier.
I guess
we can read every ancient manuscript you have
but I'm struggling to see a world in which we
read a testimony so believable.
You know what?
I guess we're always right.
Why don't we just
Yeah.
Why do anything?
Why talk about anything?
I think you ripped up...
Let's just turn off the mics.
I think you ripped up a few...
Let's just...
Let me just...
Let me just...
I think it grabbed a few pages from his script.
I don't think if you're supposed to grab because he ripped him up and I can see some pictures he hadn't shown me yet.
So I guess they're destroyed.
They're gone.
So, yeah.
Turn the cameras off for sure.
So let's just...
Well, don't put the caps on.
Don't...
All right.
All right.
Night night.
Don't need to do that anymore because...
He's putting the caps on the cameras.
Why would we...
You know?
I think so I guess it's all solved, isn't it?
Why does an airship have an anchor?
Why does...
I understand a boat has...
an anchor because you drop it in water and it stops the boat from moving. If a plane had an anchor
to stop it from flying, it wouldn't be able to fly. We don't know how they move. We've seen
reports where they're smoke, where the aliens are smoke. Right, but this one wasn't. It dropped
an old-timey boat anchor. That's the words they knew. That's the only words they knew. So they're
using, what their frame of reference. If you showed them
a hot pocket.
If you showed them
a big Mac,
they would be like,
it's like a type of potato.
I'm not trying to stereotype
the Irish here.
But I'm just saying
they'd be like,
it's like a thing.
Sandwiches hadn't even been invented
yet, let alone burgers,
let alone big macs.
You know, they had bread.
Yeah, they had bread.
But no one had put,
no one had made a sandwich yet.
The Earl of Sandwich
would invent those much, much later.
So what I'm saying,
they're using their limited language to describe a thing.
Okay.
Look, I don't, hey, I don't know what, you don't know what to tell me?
I don't know what to tell you.
If I'm saying that there was UFOs at 200 AD in Rome and you don't care, all right, well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you're bad, I think.
Well, I'm assuming you're saying, you don't care, sorry, you don't care that in the 12th century, the 12th century, it's hard to say.
It's really not.
You say it.
12th century.
Slow it not.
Go on, do it again.
Just tell me about the other stories.
Do it more time.
So done.
And also, I'm not worried about whether or not there were UFOs in 780 because we're fine.
They didn't do anything.
And we've been largely fine since then.
12th century one more time?
12th century.
Yeah, that was pretty good, actually.
Okay, so in the 12th century, a story incredibly similar to Clon McNish happened, but in London,
including a sky anchor
and someone who came down to Earth via the anchor.
We're seeing a pattern here.
So it is an anchor.
That's what they thought.
But you can't keep telling me.
We don't know if it was an anchor.
And yeah, that was 600 years later.
All right.
I'm just struggling to deal with
because you can't have it both ways.
You need to watch some sci-fi or something
or try and open up your brain about,
look, I know I wanted to be a tractor beam.
We all wanted to be a tractor beam.
I hosted the case where we looked back at medieval art
and I argued that the beams of light from heaven
were tractor beams. I've done that.
But they're saying they use anchors
and maybe they do.
So it is an anchor?
Sure.
Okay, right.
Because before you told me it wasn't an anchor.
I'm just saying that's not even,
that wouldn't even be that crazy of a possibility.
It's more crazy that there's a ship in the sky
with dudes on it.
We're literally one paragraph away from you saying
1983.
an anchor came down and killed a woman.
I mean, it's either aliens or sky pirates.
So whichever you want it to be.
Oh, the Skyrots?
Oh, they're real.
I believe in the Skyrots.
In fact, stories about Sky people were so common
that by the 16th century...
That sentence alone should lead us to me.
You deal with this.
You live with this piece of information.
The sky people.
These are not my words.
You take this piece of information and you explain to me.
You explained to me what this is.
Is that what this case is about?
You explained me what this is.
Explain this.
By the 16th century.
We are 40 minutes in.
It's the first time you've ever said the word sky people.
In the 16th century reports were so frequent that the Swiss theologian Paracelsus actually created a new word for the sky people, calling them sylphs.
I just heard the old word.
This is the first time I've heard sky people.
Silfs. They had to make up
not milfs,
Sky people I'd love to fuck
No, spell
S-Y-L
S-Y-L-S-Y-L-P-H-S.
Sir, do you know what a self is?
Good Lord.
And the Sky People became a recurring theme
of literature at the time and art.
So explain that.
Explain that to me.
Okay, so I
I wasn't even under the impression that we were investigating sky people today.
I thought we were investigating the anchor.
The fact that this- Oh, we're investigating the airship of Clon McNish.
Okay, yes.
So not this other phenomenon known as sky people, which sounds like it's been...
It's the same phenomenon.
I mean, the people came from the sky.
I mean, we've established that in the first six minutes at the podcast.
Okay.
Okay.
We're not saying whether or not sky people are real.
But we're not saying anyone's real.
You need to get your head out of the...
No one's putting a gun into your head.
It feels like you are.
I will.
It feels like you're putting an anchor to my head.
Or possibly a spear.
We don't know.
Yes.
Okay.
That's very interesting.
Did this individual, this Swiss scientist, have an experience with the Swiss theologian?
The swifts.
The sylphs.
I think he was just, I mean, if he was a theologian, he was presumably.
Unemployed.
No.
I think at this point in time, at that point in time, probably rich as all hell, I think, overemployed.
What time was this?
16th century, medieval times.
And I think if he was a theologian, he was probably looking at it as like trying to be like,
what do selves mean for the Bible?
That's probably where he was coming from.
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't say they were angels.
Yeah.
Right?
That's the go-to.
To invent a whole new thing, sky people.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, that's ballsy.
That'll get you killed in the olden days.
Maybe that would be another case for another time.
You know, if I can really deep dive on sifts
and find a bunch of evidence for it.
But today, I think we'll just for the sake of this hone in on the airship of Clon McNish.
But pretty, pretty mad case that you refuse to take seriously.
Hey, I'm more interested in the sills.
All right.
Let me tell you, the sky anchor.
I can take it or leave it.
No, don't believe the sky anchor.
I just told you it was the same thing.
I just said that the sky anchor happened in London too.
You can't get rid of the anchor.
whether you want to or not.
It's lodged in the church.
Don't say I can't get rid of the anchor
because very early on you said it might not even be an anchor.
We don't know it could be anything.
And it's lost anyway.
So I could very easily get rid of the anchor
because they did get rid of it.
It's gone.
Well, something came down.
A sylph.
Well, the person and the thing, yeah.
Okay.
Some sort of metal object.
Okay.
Okay.
This is a lot to take on board today.
A lot.
Well, hurry up.
We need hurry up.
We're not coming on conclusions.
Hurry up and take it on board, then.
Say something, for sure.
There's very little to say.
I think today is literally speechless.
I don't even know what this episode is going to be called.
The anchor, the sky people.
It feels like I'm talking to a damn anchor.
And not a news anchor.
Because that pun was not intended.
Look, I appreciate it.
The Airship of Clown McNeeche.
It is a very strange one.
actually sometimes this paranormal life me and Rory like to give each other a trigger warning let's say
what do you think it was except this let me finish let me be clear uh just say we give each other
trigger warning where we if there was like something that's going to be completely out of left
field or something in the episode not content warning but just like heads up this is the type of
direction the episode might go just to just so you're not completely like blindsided don't
don't know where to take things.
And I said to Rory, I was like, you know, this case is actually perfect for a campfire.
Because with campfire, we sort of found this rhythm of cases that were just short and bizarre,
like a lightning flash of the paranormal.
Yeah.
And this is perfect.
A ship arrived in the sky.
A little man came down.
There was an anchor.
There was a whole thing.
People fought him.
He flew back up to the sky, flew away.
And it's in the history books now.
Right.
No one knows what happened.
Perfect little.
campfire story. Problem is campfire's finished.
So that meant
it was a luxury really because it meant that I was able to go deeper
than we would have been able to in campfire and find out
about sylves.
The point being,
it's just a mad little case, isn't it?
Aren't we lucky? Aren't we lucky that
luckily we were able to spend a little extra time on it
and discover Skymills?
Which I think is the most important part of this story.
You asked me, what did you ask me?
You asked me what I thought the anchor was?
Any of this?
Any of it?
What do you think it is?
The anchor is probably some kind of, as you say,
drone, futuristic drone technology,
electromagnetic anchor of some kind.
It might be fulfilling the same job as anchor,
tethering the mothership to the home planet that is docking on,
allowing beings to travel to and from.
Maybe a tractor beam technology doesn't really work,
and they actually need almost like,
almost like, you know, Link in Ocarina of Time
throwing his hook shot.
Right.
They launched them, you know, this metal object onto the earth
and allows them to travel across.
Who knows?
But it must have been an accident.
Whatever this thing was,
because it hit a church,
and then immediately they sent someone down
to try and get it unstuck.
That was a really good,
made up on the spot,
answered your question, wasn't it?
Kind of.
You referenced Link from Occurator of Time,
which I don't think of that good.
Yeah.
Was it an accident?
I mean, it must have been.
Maybe.
Do you think they hit the church on purpose?
But I mean, this is UFO study 101.
Roswell was probably an accident.
I mean, if a UFO crashed, it wasn't on purpose.
Yeah.
If you know about it, it was an accident.
Exactly.
Yeah.
In most cases, I think probably there's sometimes where they're just zipping along
and someone sees them on a radar.
I guess that was an accident that they were seen.
But this is like, this is, I don't know,
let's leaving a trail behind, leaving some evidence.
They got sloppy.
They got very...
Real sloppy.
I think they lost their
007 style.
They lost their
double O status.
Yeah.
They had to go back
to the office
once they got back
to their home planet.
Hey, maybe they were
kind of patronizing
early humans.
They were like,
these motherfuckers don't even
draw yet.
We can hit as much shit
as we want on the way
out of this place.
No one will believe them
in a couple hundred years.
A couple hundred years,
a couple thousand years,
they're going to have
pictures and video and shit
and we're going to have to
really tighten up our game.
When the aliens,
yeah,
get back to,
hang out of their homies.
It's like, hey, how'd it go, man?
He's like, bad, bad.
What is it?
I saw a guy with a pencil.
Everyone's like, no.
He had a pencil.
He was drawing shit this time.
They're moving fast.
They're moving fast.
Look, Rory, this is the beauty of the bonus episode.
You might not see it that way.
I don't know.
But hopefully the patrons do who are tuning in,
which is it is the privilege and the joy to open a can of worms
and kind of worms and kind of just let the worms do their thing.
Don't really worry about cleaning up the worms.
Don't worry about conclusions or consequences.
Just say the story.
And then let the facts speak for themselves.
Hey, I like it.
I like it.
You know, the bonus episode is just opening a door
and throwing in a lit match and closing the door.
Our job's done.
We just started something.
It's up to the people in the room to do something with the fire.
It's kind of a relief, isn't it?
Imagine other podcasters just live like this.
They don't have to say, shit.
Me and you live with the burden every day.
Yeah.
The weight of the yes and the no.
It's rough.
It's hard.
We live with the burden of knowing of the existence of Skymilfs.
And knowing there's so little we can do about it.
So I volunteered to make first contact with the creature.
I can see you've mentally turned around on the Skymills.
Now you've started calling them that.
A little bit.
Yeah.
He was called a strange man, I will say.
So I don't know how like, I don't know if it was a buxom babe.
kind of as they would say in the 90s
so whatever you've got in your head
I think it is going to be different
I'll take what I can get
okay
you're going to have to let us know
what you think in the comments
of this Patreon post
you might be listening
in your podcast app of choice
you might even be watching
on YouTube
I believe we're going to get this on YouTube
fingers crossed
probably so yeah we defer to you this time
let us know what you think
and don't be horny
and just say you want to meet the SkyMilfs
that is going to clog up the comments
that's a perfectly valid
response to today's case.
It's not really. It's not, it's unscientific.
Let us know whether you think they're real or not.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah, I think this is a really interesting one.
Is that the kind of question we want to pose to the, to our audience today,
is regarding sky people, or do you want to be more specific and ask questions about what
you think happened to this church, to the airship?
Yeah, well, let me know. I think so. I did, I will say,
SILFs was a grenade. That is a live grenade of a last sentence of an investigation.
I'm looking at your notes.
There's so many pictures you didn't show me.
There's nothing.
What else is in there?
Shush.
And so I say, let's keep it to the airship at Clom McNich.
And it's related sightings because there was an exact, pretty much identical
sighting of that in London, if we remember.
And there was lights over Rome, sure, but that might be a different thing.
But, yeah, I thought there was going to be more of those because you were like,
there are more examples.
For example, in Rome.
You were talking so much.
I could barely get it out.
I gave you like three examples.
You ripped your script in half and then we never went back to the other stories.
So were there more?
So maybe you shouldn't interrupt next time.
Maybe that would be really helpful.
If you wanted to hear about it.
I would say now is the kind of we've been recording for over an hour.
I'd say now it's too late to get me to go back and say that again.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, hey, thank you, Kit, for this week's investigation.
Definitely didn't see this one coming.
No.
I don't think anyone did.
which is that the sign of a good investigation?
Not always.
All right, motherfucker.
But today's an exception because this was a great story.
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It is our pleasure to bring you these cases.
We are going to be back, as Roy says, with more.
Wow.
So get cozy.
Get your hot chocolate at the ready for that Q&A episode or Mimosa, whatever you prefer.
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We can't wait to bring it to you.
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