This Paranormal Life - Humpty Doo Australias Most Famous Haunting
Episode Date: January 11, 2026Australia — a land that has given us much to be scared of — spiders, shoeys, and the most powerful accent known to man. But perhaps no story from Australia is more believable or terrifying than ...that of the Humpty Doo Poltergeist. In 1998 a paranormal story from a small town in Australia’s Northern Territory hit local news. It started as a humour piece, but quickly the reporters realised there was nothing funny about what was happening. What followed is one of the most well-documented paranormal stories in history, and the topic of this week’s investigation. Time for Kit and Rory to discover the truth! Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube Join our Secret Society Facebook Community Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes! Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/store Intro music by www.purple-planet.com Edited by Philip Shacklady Research by Ewen Friers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Let's set the scene.
It's 1998.
We're in the northern territories of Australia, just outside Darwin.
Two priests are driving to work.
Father Stephen D'Souza, originally from India, is in the driver's seat
while a junior priest gazes out of the window beside him.
Ain't it pretty out there, Father D'Souza?
It's nice to get out of the city, get away from St. Mary's for a few hours, right?
Uh, yeah, sure.
Father D'Souza pulled the car off the main road and onto a borderline dirt track,
following signs for a town called Humpty Do.
Humpty Do?
do? I haven't been out this way for a while. Quiet, sort of a place, ain't it father to Susa?
Well, it used to be. So what's this visit about anyways? A baptism? Performing the Eucharist
for some elderly folks? Oh, I know. It's a funeral, isn't it? I wonder if there'll be sandwiches. I'm
starving. Wait, they didn't tell you. Tell me what? We're in Humpty 2. Haven't you read the papers?
seen the news?
The Humpty-Doo Poultergeist?
We're here to perform an exorcism.
That's right. Today's case brings us to 90 McMinn's Drive, Humpty-Doo, Australia.
Location of the country's most compelling and well-documented Poultergeist case to date.
Do you know how terrifying a case has to be to make a place called Humpty-Doo?
Sounds scary?
You can't have a poltergeist in Humpty-Doo.
You changed the name.
If you have a poltergeist, did Humpty Do?
It sounds like it's going to take all the king's horses and all the king's men.
To put this house back together again.
Roy, but that's what I'm saying.
Yes, it sounds like the site of several nursery rhymes.
Yes, it sounds like there's probably a kid's soft play play area there.
Yeah, there probably is too.
But that doesn't mean that it can't be haunted.
Because it probably goes the other way.
When they were naming the town, they were like,
all right, we're running out of name.
here, getting a bit tight.
Anything significant about this place?
It's like, yes, a massacre of 20,000 people took place here about six months ago.
Yikes.
Let's give it something jovial and upbeat, so no one will ever think about that ever again.
Welcome to Wiggle Town.
Weggletown. We're done.
All right, on to the next one.
That's how I assume town naming took place.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Usually maybe the cushy or the name, the worse the history.
The priest drove along McMinn's drive.
stopping at a bungalow covered in vegetation.
A young couple, Dave Clark and Jill Somerville,
opened the door and invite the priests inside.
They live there with another young couple,
Andrew, or Bernie, and Kirstie Agwis,
their 10-month-old daughter, Jasmine,
and another friend, Gav Murphy.
What the fuck going on here?
Why was there so many people in this house?
Was this a polycule?
Was this like...
Why is one guy's nickname just a different name?
That's what I couldn't work on.
also known as Mike.
It's like, what the fuck you're talking about?
Sorry, I'm swearing.
Sorry, you're getting carried away.
I think they just gave away
his government by accident.
Right, right.
I'm on the run.
Why do you think I'm living with seven other people
and a baby in a house?
Because I'm on the run.
In a made-up fucking town, humpty-do.
Sounds like the town
is in the witness protection program.
I will say that last one,
Gav Murphy, not to be confused
with friend of the show,
Gav Murphy,
who from Let's Play,
gaming channel
RKG
It might be
We don't know
How old he is
And the episode of TPL
Where we investigated
What Skinwalker Ranch
Yeah
Is that right?
So you might have
seen a bit of Gav
But yeah
Imagine this was
Gav's origin story
Could be
That would be
Disturbing
We'll see what happens
The inhabitants
Of the house
Looked
Tired and disheveled
Jill
Pleads with the priests
Please fathers
You've got to help us
We're at our wits
End here
They all
nod in agreement and Andrew chips in.
For the sake of our little girl fathers, please get rid of this thing.
For the past number of weeks the household had been suddenly plagued by a series of
malicious poltergeist encounters. The couples believe a spirit is haunting their property
and the bolts, batteries, spanners and shards of glass that were inexplicably tossed around the
house proved this. They reported levitating furniture, gravel dropping from the sea.
and strange banging noises.
Yeah, in a house with a polychule, you're gonna hear some banging.
The whole thing started in January that year when a small fire had sprung to life in the house with no obvious source.
From then, the activity had escalated, seemingly more aggressively as the weeks went on.
Now, that pattern of behaviour does sound pretty common for a poltergeist, doesn't it, Rory?
Starting off small, escalating over time.
Yeah, yeah, trying to get the attention of the residents usually starts with an object moving,
cupboards, opening and closing, strange noises.
By week two, they are picking up children by the ankles and shaking them for their pocket money.
Right.
It ramps up really quick.
Yeah, their attention seekers.
That's kind of their whole thing.
That's like what they feed on.
Yeah.
And then it's like a drug.
Maybe in the beginning, just closing a door when no one's looking gives them a little kick.
But yeah, by the end, it's bored.
orderline Cirque de Soleil of kind of Victorian peasants in your living room.
At that point, you got to call the priest.
And it sounds like the priests are taking this seriously because they brought two of them.
Yeah, I actually did look this up.
Yeah.
Since when do two priests turn up to things?
I don't know.
And I think funerals is one of the things for sure.
That's a one priest job.
A funeral?
He's already dead.
What are you there to do?
Maybe it's like back up.
if someone that you can't carry the coffin.
You know, it's like they bring a...
The priest doesn't carry the coffin?
A swole priest who could be like, step aside.
That's a...
I've got this.
A funeral's got to be like the easiest job a priest can do.
That's a one priest job.
Well, what do you think is the hardest job?
Exorcism, for sure.
That should be like nine priests.
Or at least double digits.
Yeah, baptism, low-key, because I've seen videos online of the baby slipping out of the tabernacle.
Tabernacle's not the word, but are the little thing.
It's just like, they're like, in the name of the...
Quing, God, it's like a bar of soap.
Catch the baby.
Yeah, yeah, it's a messy job.
So you need a priest with a catcher's mitt.
Sure.
Just nearby in case the baby slips on.
It's like doing the dishes.
You need someone to dry afterwards.
It is true.
I think no matter your faith, it's a good thing when the priests show up.
In this case, to provide an outsider perspective, a second opinion, as well as some spiritual experience and expertise.
Because if the Gav Murphy in this story is anything like the Gav Murphy, we know,
I don't know if he's memorized any Bible.
versus for this situation.
He hasn't.
At the very least, they're in Welsh.
So, Father DeSuzza started walking around the house.
And I don't even need to dramatize this to tell you the story because it was reported in the news.
Quote,
In the kitchen, he noticed a microwave with a steak knife on top.
As I walked away, one of the residents called, Father, turning, he saw the knife flying straight at him.
There was nobody in a position to.
have thrown it. There was no time to jump out of the way either, but when it was about half a meter
from his chest, it stopped, just as though it had hit something and fell at his feet.
What? Because I'm not saying I don't trust the residents of this polychule. I probably like a lot of
listeners immediately jumped to, they threw a knife at the priest. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
But thankfully, it does seem as though something, whether that bit was paranormal, something paranormal happened
in the air because the knife stopped.
midair and fell. Wow. I mean, hey, if there's any question that this is an evil deity,
throwing a knife at a priest, that's pretty bad. There's still a possibility this is Cirque du Sole.
I don't know what they do as Cirque du Soleil, but this could be a circus act, a circus ghost.
A knife is such an evil object. And to throw that at the holiest of men is pretty bad.
We're one step away from poo, I think.
Well, then it could be a monkey ghost.
True.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Like, I imagine the father's kind of walking around, you know, just trying to get a feel, warm himself up to the whole experience.
And knife gets thrown out of him.
And he's like, oh, fuck this.
This is wild.
Then he goes back to, I assume, the Catholic fire truck parked outside brings in a giant hose of holy water, just starts dowsing the house.
All right, you had your fun.
You had your time.
Yeah, yeah.
Playtime's over.
Again, we're moving straight to the end.
This is the first thing being throwing knives at a preempt.
East. That's pretty hardcore. Also, there's a 10-month-old in this house. We need to get the knives
off the kitchen counter. The account continues. DeSuzer had seen it all before. In his native
India, he'd been called upon to deal with several similar infestations. His take on the situation
was that a restless spirit may have been drawn to the house, possibly because one of the
occupants was, without being aware of it, a natural medium. So, using a
an age old Catholic ritual, he attempted to bind the spirit and reassured the tenants that it was
very unlikely to physically injure anyone again. Oh, damn. Okay. So someone in the house is a medium?
That's his leading theory, which is quite a cool Hollywood-style plot twist. Right. You know,
they're like, what do we do? Why is this happening? It's because you have a connection to the other side.
me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Don't put that on them. Don't put that on them, father. That's not fair.
I don't know. Is you any evidence? You've been sinning. I've seen you in my mind. Yeah,
priests are omniscient. We can see everything. You've been jacking off. Yeah, the priest's
jacking off late at night. The priest is like, it's very clear here what the problem is. One of you
is a pervert. That's the only reason why they're throwing knives in a priest.
Classic pervert demon. Yeah. I'm guessing he's going around sniffing everyone's underwear.
Yeah, he is actually. Yep, pervert demon. Just fess up now.
We'll all close, everyone close their eyes and raise your hand if you're a little pervert.
Yeah?
No judgment here.
You're peaking, Father DeSouza.
It really seems like that should be the end of this report, but it goes on.
Father DeSuzer admitted, however, in his experience, that prayer rarely caused the poltergeist to stop.
The imp would only go away when it was good and ready.
Or, if its nasty tricks were indeed linked to someone in the house who was an unconscious medium,
it might just follow that person when they moved to a new residence.
Hmm, okay.
Well, there's an easy solution here.
Check everyone's browsing history.
Find the pervert and they have to leave the house.
And you know that they're a real damn perv because this is 1998.
So if they even have a browsing history, it's like, yeah.
Whoever the guy in the house is like, no, guys, really, the internet's the future.
Yeah, why does he love the internet so much?
What is the internet giving him that we are all not getting?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's very true.
Newdy pictures.
That's what we're trying to say.
That's what made you a pervert back then.
Yeah, we're talking borderline just safe for work content today.
We're talking paparazzi shots of Anna Kornikova.
Yeah, bikini picks.
Yeah.
That'll do it.
That would get you a pervert demon in 1998.
Now with pervert inflation.
To get yourself a pervert demon from hell, you go.
Gotta be, woof.
I mean, we're talking...
Bro, they're running out of demons.
They don't even have enough.
There's so many openings here.
We're talking feet, anime cat girls.
I don't want to get into it.
I don't want to docks my own browsing history.
I'm just saying you've got to be into everything today
to get yourself a pervert demon.
Anime cat girls are safe for work.
In 2025.
In this office.
Yeah, thanks to bite inflation.
Now, we know a little about how this kind of paranormal phenomena takes place,
but that is pretty interesting that the
spirit could be linked to someone who's a medium, whether they know it or not, and that the spirit
will follow them around. Because we would normally think of that in terms of possession.
Yeah. But he, I don't know, he's not really loading it with that kind of negative connotation.
He's kind of just saying, look, this person's a medium. The spirit is almost like, it's almost like
spirits on wandering through the world for 100 years and he's found someone who can communicate.
So he's like, I'm going to stick with this guy. Oh my God, you would. You know, if you were lonely
wandering the earth for thousands of years, a shadow of former humanity, and you finally found a guy
that could see you, even if that guy leaves the house, you'd be like, where are we going next?
Yeah.
You know, it sucks if you're the guy. You're just eating breakfast in the morning, like, trying to
ignore the Victorian ghost that's standing in the corner of the room being like, I know you can
see me, Dave. You got to talk to me at some point, Dave. And you're like, so what's everyone doing
today? You know, trying as hard as you can not to acknowledge him.
Yeah. And now you've basically got.
another roommate, you know?
Like all your friends are out for the evening.
You're like, oh, finally, night to myself, Netflix, bowl of popcorn.
I'm going to chill.
They ghost like, what are we watching?
What?
No, this is my life.
Yeah.
Do you see sinners?
You're able to rent sinners now?
Yeah, it's on prime video.
Yeah, I don't want to see sinners.
I'm not in the mood to see it.
It's my life.
Let me pick the movie I want to see.
You're right.
It's your life.
How are you eating popcorn?
Yeah.
It's just falling right.
through. Yeah, yeah, it's your life. No, like, I've been wandering the earth for 100 years,
unable to speak to anyone. It's actually pretty cool. They've got to spend time with someone. Oh, my God.
It's ghost popcorn. Popcorn gets old two and dies, and then I can eat it.
You know, all the popcorn's left on the floor of the cinema, everyone drops, and then a guy
like scoops it up at the end of the screener. That's what I'm eating. Ghost popcorn.
So Father Desuzza basically took a look around, almost died by getting a knife thrown at him,
but performed what they said was kind of ancient Catholic prayer ritual to try and cleanse the place.
One that he admits sometimes makes them stronger.
Basically doesn't work.
He basically then called it a day, gathered his things, and the two priests prepared to leave.
I hope that these prayers have helped you.
Thank you for placing your trust in me.
But I pray that I am not your only hope.
Only hope.
Sorry to break it to you, Father, but you're one of about 12 priests.
we have coming to the house.
Father Tom English is coming out later this week
and we have clergy from the Greek Orthodox
Church scheduled for the week after
we're speaking to the nearest mosque
and Buddhist Temple too.
Thanks mate but we have to cover all our bases here.
The news went on to report.
Brans gave the household a brief respite.
The poltergeist kept its nasty little head down
for three days but then
just as the residents were hoping it was all over
the craziness started.
it again. In fact, both Father English and the Greek Orthodox priests were also met with
aggressive Poltergeist behavior when they made their visits. Father Tom English reported
the Poltergeis hurling and smashing a bottle of holy water that he brought to the scene,
as well as moving and levitating objects. He described how the physical activity in the house
didn't follow the laws of physics. The Greek Orthodox priest, on the other hand, was physically
assaulted by the spirit as he tried to bless each room. The Poltergeist allegedly tried to wrench
the priest's Bible from his hands and then proceeded to twist his arm behind his back.
They're getting bullied. I don't know what I think about that one. He was in one of the bedrooms
trying to bless it and then the ghost grabbed his arms and put it behind his back. What's next? Pining him
to the bed? What kind of sexy Australian ghost is this? This really is a pervert ghost.
This is, I would say though, it's kind of funny to talk about, but this is definitely up there with one of the more violent poltergeist hauntings I've heard of.
Yeah.
Throwing a knife, smashing bottles, kind of wrenching things out of their hands, twisting their arm.
Yeah.
Well, what's interesting in this one is they're not only going for the priests, but they're coming for adults.
You know, a lot of the time, poltergeist activity traditionally targets.
young kids.
Mm-hmm.
You know, they would possess children or just pick a child up and throw them through a table.
Yeah, kind of table ladders, chairs match, WWE-style rules.
Yeah, so you know this thing means business if it's not only going for adults, but going for the priests.
That's true.
And I didn't really think of it before, but, you know, they mentioned there was a medium in the house.
Maybe it's the kid.
They said there was a friggin' baby in the house.
Yeah.
Roy, just so you have a visual.
reference of the thing. This is what the house
looked like. Whoa, okay.
This wasn't exactly what I had
in my mind. It's like
a cabin. Like a small one
floor cabin.
Yeah, and it's a funny
picture. Maybe there's more to the house than, I think
given there's so many adults in the house, I think it is
a little bigger than that. But yeah,
it's a basic kind of bungalow.
Now, rumors from the house
continued to cause a media storm
and before long, the story went
national. Sydney's Channel
7 turned up to shoot an extended feature on the Humpty Doe Poultergeist for the Today Tonight
Current Affairs show. Unlike so many ghost and poltergeist cases that we've studied, Humpty
Doe has the advantage of being pretty recent and therefore, well, documented. Yes, I didn't want to
bring this up because Kit doesn't like it when I start talking about cameras and video evidence,
but what did you say? 1998? Okay, so we're well within the time period where there are cameras
and video cameras available.
Well, Roy, you're about to get more footage than you could shake a stick at.
Because they borderline shot a Bravo TV reality show about Humpty Do.
Whoa!
The Today Tonight team covered everything.
Days and days of taping on site, testimonies,
and even alleged footage of poltergeist activity.
For once, we're in luck.
And this will serve as the backbone of evidence for today's case.
Great. Love this.
Let's see some of that footage.
Five adults and a toddler live here, and they believe the house has been taken over by an angry spirit, a ghost, a poltergeist.
We just get annoyed because we think it's not gone. Everyone tells us the priest, the clairvoyne, here's Merv, just saying three hours ago that the clairvoyne's rung and she said it's gone, well it's not gone, is it?
It's obviously not gone, and that's all there is to it.
Sorry, I just had to pause there because Kirstie is having a passion.
plea to the camera here holding her baby
being like the ghost is still here it's not gone
there's a man chugging a beer in the background
of the shot just crush in
a brusky yeah in a tank top
they also couldn't have picked
scarier lighting for this house
there is one light
pointing right at them in complete darkness
casting shadows everywhere
this looks like a horror movie
that baby's possessed
it's clearly that baby
no no it's not the baby it's a perfectly cute
baby kid just pause the video
But a random frame, the woman is like, yeah, we don't know what the fuck is causing this.
She is holding a demon in her hands.
She's not, okay, the baby's eyes look black.
Completely black.
That's because of the dramatic lighting that you've just aforementioned.
That's a curse baby.
That's a devil baby.
Let's keep an eye on the baby.
That's a devil baby.
She's Kirsty Agass with her 13-month-old daughter, Jasmine.
She's married to Bernie Agass.
They share the house with another couple, Dave Clark and Jill Somerville, and Gavin Murphy.
these black things.
I had a mate around,
and he was in the lounge room,
like it started going off when he was out.
It flung this.
I picked it up.
I said, watch this, midnight.
Put it back in the drawl, right?
I said, now that's where that knife would have come from.
There would have been about one minute later,
we might walking around there,
come nearly up to here her clunk in the lounge room again.
I thought, oh yeah, there's something in the lounge room.
Walked in there with the same knife
that I just picked up and put in there
and he just looked and thought, whoa.
I don't care what anyone says.
It knows.
It knows what you're talking about and that's all there is to it.
You know, it's not stupid.
As soon as I opened up the manhole,
I got shouted of rocks from the ceiling.
Just came straight out of the ceiling.
What, the gravel?
Yeah, the gravel from the driveway.
How did it get into the roof and then onto you?
Well, it wasn't there before.
And there was none up there when I got up there.
But Roy doesn't even seem to be just the residents
of the house that are convinced something's going on.
Pretty quickly, it seems as if the crew of the Today Tonight Show
are pretty convinced themselves.
The residents and their friends say that for the past two months,
they've suffered an almost continual barrage
of unexplainable activity.
They say household objects fly through the air
and slam into walls around them, sometimes breaking glass.
However you look at it, it's hard to believe
until you see it for yourself.
When today tonight first came to this house, we all thought that we'd end up with a fairly tongue-in-cheek report about ghosts,
and we came to uncover a hoax.
But I have to say at the very outset that that's not what we ended up with at all.
In fact, all five members of the Channel 17 who stayed in this house for four days
have seen things which we just can't explain, myself included.
Objects have seemingly appeared out of nowhere being thrown at or near us, and we kept most of us.
We've had steak knives thrown at us, a spanner, a pair of scissors, a battery,
lots of bits of pretty sharp glass, and most worrying of all, three live bullets.
Oh my God.
Damn, this ghost is not here to play.
He said, if you don't get out, I'll make y'all get out.
Now I dance today, tonight show.
Oh my God.
I don't think we've ever seen that in a ghost case before is...
I mean, the ghost stopped short of firing the bullets from the ghost dimension, but it threw the bullets.
I like to think that this ghost is just so old.
He came from a time without guns.
So he doesn't really...
All he knows is that bullets kill people.
So he's like, I shoot you, like throwing the bullets of people like a poker ball.
They're like, what the hell?
He's like, my God, they're invincible.
They're bulletproof.
They're impervious to the bullets.
This is wild.
Or maybe like in the ghost realm, whenever they throw something,
they feel like they're pitching at 200 mile per hour baseball.
But it's like when you try to scream or run in a dream.
Oh, yeah.
It just doesn't translate.
Or try and punch someone in a dream and it feels like you're underwater.
Yeah.
Yeah, you just can't get the velocity.
Wow, this is crazy.
Great to see independent witnesses who were doubtful come in and have their minds.
changed. This is a news crew filming. I really hope over four days they managed to get some
kind of video evidence of this. Rory, let's see what they got. Now of course, during the course
of their stay, like you've suggested, the crew did rig the house with an array of cameras,
including a heat sensitive camera. Before we even had our cameras set up, things started flying.
It flew out of nowhere.
It just came out of nowhere.
See it?
Yeah.
It just like, it flew out an hour and just smacked against the...
Yes, the side of it.
Ten minutes later, with cameras rolling, our first recorded incident.
Yeah, it'll just go out with you bring in legs it.
There are guys.
Oh, what was that?
That noise was caused by a spanner which crashed into a kitchen cabinet with great force.
with great force.
One of our sound recordists, Danny Sims, saw it all.
I was just watching the cupboard there.
Next when I heard this almighty bang,
and my eyes caught the spanner,
bounce off the cupboard and hit the floor.
Where did the spanner come from?
I don't know.
It looked like it came out in the lounge room,
but there was no one in the lounge room.
And the lounge room camera proves it.
The point of impact was just out of shot here.
The spanner didn't cross the frame in this direction,
and it didn't appear to come from here either.
Oh, it's so frustrating.
I'll be honest, I don't watch a ton of, like, ghost shows.
I kind of was raised on them because my mom was always watching them.
Yeah.
Kind of UK ones.
So it kind of like turned me off because there's only so many times you can watch an episode with zero evidence before we were like, I know what I'm getting into.
But I do quite enjoy that like multicam, them trying to trace the angle that it was thrown.
It's quite exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What we just saw was a spanner hitting a wall.
We heard the sound.
And then they showed the spanner afterwards.
And really the only evidence we have to support it being paranormal is the lack of vision that we have in the other shots.
Yeah, we got the noise of it happening.
So it happened.
Yep.
We got, we have visual testimony of someone saying they sort of bounce off.
And then all, all we have is that allegedly there was no one in the room where it came from.
Yeah.
Which is funny because they're trying to obviously get ahead of what you're thinking,
which is like there was no one in the room so nobody could have thrown it.
It's like, okay, so it sounds like the other explanation is that someone did just throw it.
Yeah.
Which, you know, could be a thing.
That is the possibility for all poltergeist activity is that someone just did it.
Yeah.
That's the thing about poltergeist.
Don't get me wrong.
They often do like levitate something and an act which cannot happen in any other way yet paranormal.
But they also do a lot of stuff.
that humans could do. We're talking writing. We're talking throwing things. Yeah, exactly.
So it's hard. You just got to find ways to prove definitively that it's not humans doing those
things. I'm also, I'm trying not to judge people based on appearances or first impressions.
All right, here we go. All right, here we go. The first clip we saw of the family telling their story.
There was just Gav Murphy in the background, absolutely crushing a beer, drinking for uninterested.
interrupted 15 seconds.
No need to do that on camera on national television, by the way.
I have to assume he's just always doing it.
If it's also happening during the one time he's being interviewed.
Do you know what we do have evidence of?
Alcoholism.
Right.
Rampant alcoholism.
Okay.
Look, I think there's a little more evidence that's keep trucking.
Sure.
Because I will give it to them that we're about to see that they don't just rely on just
hearing sounds, just pointing a camera and hoping that they see something flying across
the lands, they also use other tools.
This is one of five knives which either the residents
or our own people say just appeared apparently
from nowhere with a bang.
But the most frequent flying debris were shards of glass,
which might have come from two windows
the residents maintained were smashed by the poltergeist.
One piece was thrown past our sound man, James Petch.
I don't know, just bounced.
It bounced off here somewhere.
I don't know. There's no way it could have come in the window because of the fly screen.
So where did that bit of glass come from?
It was the flying glass which baffled our thermal camera operator, Brendan Gowdy.
What we're looking at is thermal image is taken approximately every two to three seconds.
And you'll see the heat is dissipating.
I mean you can see an overall picture here how quickly the heat's dissipating.
On the pieces of glass, Gowdy's camera picked up a rapidly fading and uniform heat rate
reading. There was never any unevenness caused by fingerprints and this piece was far too big
to uniformly heat up in your hand.
I was baffled. I mean, if I had to say something, I'd say it was a bit like a microwave,
you know, something put a film of energy over the top of it and that energy is what we actually witnessed disappearing
before our eyes or before our thermal eyes, if you like. Yeah, that was difficult.
to explain.
Ooh, a film of energy.
That's cool.
I like that a lot.
I like that a lot.
Okay, I wasn't sure if you'd go for that, to be honest.
I dig this.
Okay.
You know, if you're not going to have...
Yeah, bring it a bit of science in here,
bringing a bit of technology that is, sure,
traditional paranormal hunting equipment.
But also, you know, you can take readings.
You can get numbers.
You can show me pictures that are going to help convince me
that something weird is going on here.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, I think if anyone didn't catch that, because it's not super obvious.
I think what they're trying to say is, look, if someone threw it, there might be using a thermal
camera, a heat signature remaining on the glass of fingerprints or a palm.
Yeah.
In this case, he's saying it was as if someone had chucked it in the microwave.
Right.
And heated it was completely uniformly heated and then the heat dissipated just uniformly.
You also don't get fingerprints when it's thrown by a hoof.
That's right. This is a demon, ladies and gentlemen. I think we're dealing with something from the underworld.
Oh, shit. That's your, sorry, are we back to pervert demon? Is that?
I think we might be looking at some sort of pervert, the perverted one, possibly.
Oh, recently discussed on the podcast. Yes, father of Pizzou. I don't know. Maybe.
It is also interesting, as we've just been kind of dramatizing the events on the podcast so far, to just hear from the horse's mouth from kind of some of the priests who turned up them.
Yeah.
And then there's Father Tom English.
He's one of the priests who have tried to get rid of what he calls an evil spirit inside
the house.
My God, my God, why have you around me?
We're just walking along and we heard crash behind us and we looked around and there's
this bottle that come out of the bathroom which is in the middle of the house.
And what did you do?
We went in a bathroom place that room as well.
Was there anyone in the bathroom?
No, no.
How could that bottle have flown the way it did?
Then ask me.
Brother, you're the one person they should ask about this.
How do you get rid of demons' father?
Well, don't look at me.
We look at you.
This is the one time where people need to look at you.
His vibe is like slightly odd.
Because I think he's also got a gold tooth.
Do you see that?
He's got a gold tooth.
Don't ask me.
He's clearly a mobster in hiding.
Quite clearly a gangster who's had to go on the run and is hiding as a priest.
I don't think he has any understanding of how this works.
He does look pretty uncomfortable to be talking about.
He doesn't want to talk about it at all.
Interesting.
I don't know.
But he clearly believes something happened.
Father, how do we get into the gates of heaven?
Your guess is as good as mine.
It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.
It wouldn't be as good as yours.
Also, looking at his little grin that he has during the interview,
I genuinely believe there is a chance he's the demon.
I genuinely think it is him.
Yeah, he's like smiling.
He's like, oh, it's pretty impressive.
They smashed a bottle when no one was looking?
That's crazy.
It's like, well, surely we'll have to banish him from the house.
It's like, yeah, but I heard he's pretty strong.
I heard he's actually a pretty cool guy if you get to know him.
If we slow down the video, it'll be like,
Ghostbusters,
see like his cat eyes blink sideways
or something?
He looks so happy and proud of this demon.
It genuinely might be him.
The residents, though,
reckon they know exactly what's messing up their home.
Some sort of spirit.
A spirit?
Not a very happy way, I know.
And they've had three priests try to get rid of it.
He sent a Greek Orthodox priest around
and he was a full on one of these exorcist blokes
and he was doing his exorcist thing
in Greek or Latin or whatever it was
and he had a Bible on his hand
and it was just ripping his
twisting the Bible around
tearing his arms off, his air was blowing back
this is in the kitchen
but he's gone back to Greece now
he left he bolted two days later
I guess the question is well you're bro
he's got fangs.
That was a really great bait and switch
where the narrator said
that there were three priests
that came to visit the house
while the camera shows you
a shot of three men in shorts
and tank tops drinking beers
in lawn chairs.
And then the men go to say,
yeah, we're not the priest, by the way.
The priest, it was a very good little switch up there.
Also, every time they interview
a resident of the house,
it's a different person.
It's because there's like seven adults.
There's way, there's got to be way more now.
I've seen, I haven't seen anyone, I haven't seen anyone twice.
No, no, no, we have.
And they've done so many interviews.
The guy talking there who's like, the bloody exorcist bloke, he, he was the one drinking in the kitchen.
Okay, he was.
All right, where were these two?
Who were these two other men?
There were Bernie, Ert, Ert, Bernie.
The so-called haunted house of Humpty Doe.
This is where today, tonight.
spent five days trying to prove or disprove the claim that it's home to a
poltergeist which the five men and women living there say has been throwing
things around the house for two months we had cameras in almost every room and
this is what we caught on tape you're right we've got something guys a little
baby's bottle fell off the microwave whoa what that a bullet
slammed into walls. A spanner almost hit our camera.
It'll just go it when you bring and leave it.
While the pictures don't prove anything, all the members of our own crew did see things
being thrown around the house which did appear to have come from thin air.
And there are nearly two dozen others who believe there is something unexplainable in the house.
One time I was there there's a few things flying around.
What sort of things?
more bottles and things from the kitchen and stuff like that.
Just explain for me exactly what happened if you would.
Well they just fly out of a room that nobody's in, for instance, crash out.
Could the objects have been thrown through windows or something like that?
No, no, because the room they come out of was, there's nobody in it,
because we went straight in it after.
Father Tom English is the local Catholic priest.
He's even blessed the house several times trying to get rid of what he calls the
evil spirit. So basically we have some pretty interesting stuff caught on camera, a variety of
kind of kinetic events of an object being thrown either by ghost or by a person, if we're being
totally honest, but being captured on camera, entering the frame, hitting off something.
Yeah. As well as the testimony from basically everyone who ever entered the house, it seems
like, says something weird happened. But on at least one occasion, they did capture something else
during their stay.
But late yesterday, the story took a dramatic turn.
We found this shot, which had been taped after our team was there.
I got that.
Where did that come from?
What was it?
I'm talking a lot of the way.
But in the glass of the cabinet, you can clearly see a reflection of a person throwing the object.
Ooh.
Oh, come on.
Where did that come from?
What was it?
Here it is again.
I got that.
Where did that come from?
What was it?
Yikes.
You can also see the object itself flying past the cabinet.
This is good forensic video journalism.
Yeah it is.
They've caught the trajectory of the object and the reflection of someone.
The residents of the house haven't seen these pictures in the kind of detail that you just have.
But they did tell me last night that the person reflected in the glass is one of the
them, Kirsty. Now when I spoke to Kirsty Agass on the phone, she admitted to me that she
threw the object. And she told me that she did it because she's desperate for people to believe
what they say that the house is haunted by a poltergeist. Oh, Rorya twist in the tail.
Kirsty, you did the one thing that's going to convince everyone you don't have a poltergeist.
Ah, you threw it yourself. You know, and didn't even go for what I thought was going to
to be the logical explanation, which was they would say, that figure isn't any of us.
That is a glimpse of the thing.
It wouldn't necessarily, doesn't happen. The video is not high resolution enough. The reflection
is not clear enough for us to know at all who that is. Yeah. So, yes, it would have been,
it would have been deniable, but at least for our benefit, they did come clean. Yeah.
They did come clean. And I got to, I got to give them some respect for that whilst also giving them a
lot of shame for presumably hoaxing a lot of the other events in this house. Yes, because this is
the heffalump in the room. It opens up every other incident to being a hoax. Yeah, it really does.
And something we've got to be very careful of. Again, you want to believe the best in everyone,
but there are people, there's a lot of people out there that fake paranormal stories. It's worth talking about
with this one because look, on the one hand, I don't actually know how easy it would be to hoax
every paranormal event that took place in the home because so many people claim to have seen
something unexplainable. Yeah. Inexplicable from the priest to the housemates, to the TV crew,
to friends, to everybody. Everyone said they saw something. That being said, there is a lot of adults
in this house. A lot of people living there. So kind of weirdly compared to other
poltergeist cases where it would be easy to keep track of everyone, this is a small house with a lot
of people. I haven't been there, so I don't know, but it feels like it's not impossible for someone
to, like if people are just moving around the house all the time, it would be pretty hard to keep
track of where everyone is. Yeah, exactly. And while that does give you a lot of witnesses,
It also gives you, like you saw the interview with some of the guys, they're not taking this seriously.
They're like laughing.
I'm having a beer, like joking about it.
Like, it's fun to them.
Like, it could be a big joke to them that they've got news crew to come and stay.
I don't know.
They don't seem like they're really traumatized by this.
And it seemed like the one person that was and was like pleading about this horrible entity in the house, she was one caught on camera doing it.
Yeah.
That's not good.
I don't think this is the first.
time this has happened though, right? Where you have a paranormal thing happening and then the
waters get muddied. Sure. Yeah. I think this has happened before. I can't quite pinpoint a case in
my head, but this is like a feeling we've had before. Right. Yeah. Even if it's a UFO case and someone
hoaxes a piece of evidence around a case where it's like it doesn't it doesn't ruin the story for
everyone but it really screws the thing up. I think one of the biggest most famous is the
Enfield hunting, which started really strong and it was, you know, a child possessed and they have
all the recordings and stuff. And then by the end, they were like, yeah, just so you know, we caught
the kids like bending spoons one night or something like that or like basically like talking to
each other about how it was all fake. And it's like, cool, well, just one little thing like that kind
of ruins the rest of it. Which is kind of what we see today. Part of this does beg the question,
you know, did anyone conduct a full paranormal investigation of the
house and the answer is of course yes um prolific paranormal authors tony healy and paul cropster cropper
visited and conducted research over a four-day stay at the house similar to the today-to-night crew and
i mean i won't read you every detail of that but it's essentially to say that it was very
similar to the today-to-night crew's experience they believe that absolutely uh giving the quote
the most common question I get asked is, was it real? Yes, it certainly was. I remain convinced what I observed over four days in April 98 was a poltergeist. They recorded over 30 incidents during their stay. Very similar to the ones experienced by the crew, things being thrown and stuff like that, bullets, glass, gravel. But perhaps suspiciously, a similar lack of actual silver bullet, pun not intended evidence. Kind of a couple of a couple of.
of audio recordings of things being thrown, but no kind of definitive photo or video.
Yeah, for once we're missing the other side of the evidence, which is like an EMF reader spiking
or like static coming through on a spirit box. Yeah. The actual like more phantom evidence of a
poltergeist. All we're getting is the ones that people can very easily replicate, which is
throwing shit around a house. Maybe the final piece of the puzzle is the why of why it happened
at all. And maybe towards the end of this incident we got a clue, at least in the opinion of the people
who live there for why this was happening. One of the final paranormal phenomena that happened in the
house was the appearance of words and messages appearing scribbled on walls and even spelled out in
gravel. Some of the common words were fire, skin, car, help and Troy. Here is just a couple of photos of
pictures of that that were captured at the time.
What are you laughing at? I don't like the laughing.
In one of these pictures, someone's looking down at the word car,
spelt with gravel on the ground.
Yeah.
Just not even like you can kind of make it out.
It's perfectly shaped to be the word car.
For sure.
This is great.
You should know my mind has been made up and was made up 10 minutes ago.
So we can keep looking at things.
But the motive.
What the motive, Rory?
Look, it's true.
Here's the drawings.
There's also drawings on the wall.
There's a crucifix.
There's some more kind of creepy-looking drawing on the walls,
which I hadn't shown you the gravel car.
But the people who lived in the house,
they felt that the word Troy and the other words
was in clear reference to their mutual friend, Troy Radats.
Troy had been killed in a car accident
just a matter of days before the hauntings began.
Were they claiming that it was the source,
spirit of their deceased friend who was now haunting the house.
Me thinking this might not be paranormal makes this incredibly offensive, I think,
as a friend group to hoax a haunting and use the death of your friend to justify it.
That's pretty bad.
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know what this group was.
They seem like they're like a group of fun people to be around.
maybe this was in like Troy's will, where he's like, hey, if I die, you have to pretend like I'm haunting.
Maybe.
Maybe. I don't know. That is kind of a fun thing. I'd like to do that myself.
Okay, I think I've officially lost Rory.
So we better just speed on to conclusions because at the end of every episode of this paranormal life,
we have to decide whether we think the given case is actually paranormal or not.
Today we're talking about the humpdy-do, Jesus Christ, Poultergeist, the most famous
Poltergeise haunting, ghost haunting, probably, in all of Australia from 1998.
We've had some fantastic primary sources, witnesses, written testimony, news reports,
filming in the house from the news crew, cool things caught on camera,
a unanimous verdict from everyone involved that this was paranormal,
but yet at the 11th hour, at the final buzzer, a doubt cast on everything by Kirsty in the house,
foiling, hoaxing some paranormal evidence.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have to be careful in this day and age.
We have to be...
This is why Kid and I take our job so seriously.
Because...
Do we?
For the majority of this episode, I was on board.
I'm chugging a beer in the background of Rory talking.
I was ready to give this case a yes.
This sounded believable.
I was already rehearsing my speech for the end about how amazing.
it is to finally have a yes on a polter guys case.
Ladies and gentlemen, we don't have to be careful because we have a beautiful case on our hands.
I was ready. I want to believe and when you want to believe you see these things and you hear this testimony and you know, you get swept up in it.
And you need to always have that thought in your mind, the consideration that it is more likely, more conceivable to be humans doing these things than genuine paranormal activity.
normal activity. Not to say that it always isn't the case, because we have had yeses on this podcast
before. But, you know, when you have someone in a house doing this, getting caught, faking
poltergeist activity in a poltergeist case, you lose me. You frankly lose me. And not only you
lose me, you make me angry, that you tricked me, that I almost got hoodwinked. I feel like a victim.
I feel like a fool. And Kirstie has done the opposite.
of what she said she intended to do.
She was like, oh, I was faking paranormal activity.
All right, well, you're getting pretty heated up here.
I am getting pretty heated up.
I am getting pretty heated up.
The messenger here, because I just, yeah, sure,
did I structure the evidence in a way
that took us on a journey and made us all think it was paranormal
for a long time before then revealing some of the less savory evidence?
Yeah, I feel like if you see the clip
where it turned out she threw a fucking fork across the room,
that's the part in your research where you decide not to do the story
instead of do the story.
No.
And I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, obviously.
Because I've done the exact same thing last week.
For example, when I talked about a press release before revealing afterwards,
it was a press release done on April 1st.
Oh my God.
That was low.
So look, it's still fun to talk about these things.
I'm sure there's still people out here that would give this case a yes,
that would believe this family.
But for me, this week, it is going to be a note.
I think that makes it a double no.
You know, I think in a case like this, we've all got our agendas and we've all got our standards.
I think in a case like this, we have no choice but to give it a no.
Because in the evidence presented to us, too much doubt has been cast.
It just is impossible to have full faith.
This is truly paranormal.
At the same time, I have no doubt if I was there in 98 and seen it for myself, do I really think
I would have been the one person out of 50 that went and didn't think it was real?
You know, I think these things are different when you're on the ground.
Very different.
And life is not black and white.
It is filled with shades of gray.
Not 50 shades of gray.
That's the pervert demon.
But different shades.
And I think it's definitely possible that I would come away saying, yes, Kirstie hoaxed that thing, but the rest of it's real.
That would maybe happen.
But I'm not there because it's 2025.
Yeah.
I was seven when this happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which again, if you investigated this when you were.
You probably still say yes, too.
Yeah.
I still think we could do a separate case on Father English.
I genuinely think he might be a demon.
He might be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Yeah, some pretty crazy things happen.
He's gone.
I don't know.
Don't ask me, though.
He looks like one of the wet bandits from home alone.
Yeah, yeah.
Because he doesn't know they have the gold tooth as well.
Just give him the fingerless gloves and a overcook.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah. That might be another case.
Ah, look, we'll get around to that one, but this has been a bumper episode of this paranormal life.
Thank you for tuning in. This feels like the old days of TPL.
Just a really meaty, like procedural ghost hunting. Pretty cool stuff. I really enjoyed that.
Shout out to researcher, Ewan, keeping us on the rails with that investigation.
Shout out to you, the listener for listening. Not you. God, no.
And it does look as though it was suggested just this year by Sandy Harrison.
So thank you, Sandy, for sending that into This Paranormal Life podcast at gmail.com.
Wow.
That's one of the quickest turnarounds for an episode ever, Sandy.
Normally people have to wait six, seven years for their episode to be featured.
Yeah.
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I think we round out with a couple of those.
Let's do it.
So a special thank you today to Bella.
Bella!
Where the hell have you been, Loka?
I know exactly.
Bella's been in the cellar.
Oh.
That's right.
Like the wine cellar or something?
Yes.
I asked Bella to go get a bottle from the wine cellar nine years ago.
And I just realized she never came out.
And that cellar does lock like from the outside.
So it could have just like slam shut.
Why does it lock from the outside?
Classified information.
I have to assume she is still down there and has been surviving off.
of wine for nine years.
Yeah.
So, Bella, just come to the door and just knock if you want us to let you out.
But honestly, you might be having a good time down there.
If you haven't heard.
I haven't heard anything.
I think she's dead.
I haven't heard a peep.
All right, thanks, Bella.
Thanks also to Nicola Lucy.
That's right.
We've heard from Nicola Goosey Lucy.
Not to be confused with Nicola Lucy Goosey.
Nicola's gooses are loose.
You just said the same name twice.
They are gone.
Wait, which one is this?
I said, not to be confused with Nicola Lucy Goosey, this is Nicola Goosey Lucy.
The gooses are loose.
Which one is this?
Who is this?
There's no time for questions.
Just grab a net and catch a f***ing goose.
All right?
Nicola would really appreciate it, actually.
I feel like whether your name is Goosey Lucy or Lucy Goosey, it sounds like your geese are leased.
Everyone knows that Lucy Goosey is like, ah, relaxed.
But Nicola, goose is loose?
The geese are leased.
But it sounds like the first one has lost her ghost.
There is a geese leak.
There is a gas leak here in the studio, if you couldn't tell.
Nicola, you might have to change industry.
I don't know if those geese are coming back.
I think it's been a while probably.
They're gone.
So thank you, though, for your support.
Thanks also to Andrew not Agent Smith
Well now you see
When you say that
It seems like it's all too good to be true
Yeah
And it's been a while since I watched The Matrix
But I think kind of
Most people become Agent Smith by the end
Oh yeah
Kind of everyone except Neo
Yeah
Because he uh yeah he
He turns people into more Agent Smiths
Yeah
And that's nothing to be ashamed of
You know Agent Smith
he's got a great suit, pretty cool sunglasses.
Isn't he evil?
Well, define evil, brother.
Yeah, that's what they say on day one of evil school.
Define evil.
What even is evil, really?
It's been a while since I've seen The Matrix,
but I think he's essentially a computer virus.
Can computer viruses be evil?
That's a genuine question.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I guess they, well, I know what you're saying.
They're inanimate.
He's a code.
Yeah, he's not a real person.
It doesn't he do a big monologue where he's like,
I hate you.
Yeah.
I think he like turns an old woman into himself,
which is pretty,
but the old woman was code or was she real?
I don't remember.
Hard to keep acting after that role,
isn't it?
I'd like to see what he's done since.
Oh, he's in some great stuff, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure, but like, you know,
you're pretty recognizable as Agent Smith after that.
That's true.
That's true.
Thanks also to Emma G.
Listen, Emma G is not the enemy.
Right.
Sure, Emma might have been just pillaging the commune for resources.
Emma might have been, yeah, pushing over old ladies in kind of wheelchairs,
a little bit like Agent Smith.
But emigy is not the enemy.
Sure.
And some people have been complaining that the bills are up in the commune.
The emigy bills are through the roof.
And people are like, don't you mean the energy bills?
No, no, no.
we have a different bill that's that's just to pay for M a G being in the commune.
Yeah.
And people say it looks like she's really poor.
Looks like she's not getting the money that you're charging everyone for the MIGB bills.
And you're right.
I guess we need to hike the MIGE prices.
Yeah.
You're right.
They just doubled.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Prayer's up for MIG, honestly.
We're not the enemy.
Thanks lastly today to Karina Landon.
Karina Landon is the queen of Landan
Landan
Landan
Not to be confused with London
No no God no
Landan
Oh it's a different place
Is a kind of feudal Bitcoin state
Kind of a few miles
In the North Sea
It's like you ever see those places
That it's basically just a landing pad
In the middle of the sea
And they sometimes declare themselves
As a different country
Yes
Yeah queen of Landan
Oh okay
Well, I mean, good for you.
No room for queens or any other kings in the commune, of course.
So if you're trying to land your plane somewhere, it's not the commune.
Unless you want to give up your crown, I would say.
Yeah, and it's not because we're on some kind of like French Revolution,
kind of beheading the monarchs shit.
Yeah.
Because there's too many queens and kings here.
Way too many. Way too many.
Two kings. That's enough.
That's already too many.
Yeah, and also not in a way of like everyone's.
a king, rise up king.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
We are the kings.
That's what I mean.
Do we accept land and currency?
What is that?
It's Bitcoin.
It's like a crypto place.
Oh, that's bad for the environment, I think, but fine.
So not fine?
The commune's environment is bad enough.
Yeah.
You can't poison poison, all right?
So swim in the river.
It's fine.
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