This Paranormal Life - Is This Kids Toy Secretly Evil Cursed Labubus
Episode Date: January 11, 2026In this episode, we investigate the new craze that's sweeping the world - Labubu's. Some people think this cute, innocent children's toy is linked to Pazuzu, an ancient mesopotamian demon. There's ...only one way to find out... we have to get one on the podcast... Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube Join our Secret Society Facebook Community Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes! Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/store Intro music by www.purple-planet.com Edited by Philip Shacklady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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to investigate a new phenomenon that is sweeping the nation,
a toy that seems harmless at the surface,
but many believe it is actually linked to the world of the occult
and even possibly an ancient demon.
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Our story begins earlier this year when a store called Pop Mart posted an announcement online.
What are we doing?
It's sad.
Silence in the court.
Silence in the court.
This is a real thing that they posted online.
I'm not taking the piss.
We have received a growing number of reports about our figures behaving
strangely. Customers have shared unsettling accounts of their figures. One, shifting positions overnight.
Two, turning to face different directions. Three, mysterious whispers.
While we can't confirm if the cause is scientific or supernatural, we are issuing a mandatory
recall of all affected figures. Our investigation is ongoing, but until then, we recommend
contacting us immediately if it moves in front of you.
For safety reasons, do not attempt to confront the figure directly.
Yours truly, Pop Mart, North America team.
Jesus, man. A product recall.
I don't even know what we're talking about today, and this seems pretty bad.
Yeah, this is a store's worst nightmare.
I feel like usually when this happens, it's something small.
Like, it turns out there was a bit of horse meat in the burgers.
So we've had to recall the burgers.
Yeah.
Today, it sounds like we're at a level where this is a store saying we had to recall all the cereal that was sold last week because Tony the Tiger came to life and ate a child.
Like a level of recall that is beyond normal.
Yeah.
I mean, like, you know, maybe I should be working for this company because I'd be saying to them, don't admit to it.
No, don't.
Because the stuff that they listed isn't asbestos.
Right, like a lab.
This isn't like tangible stuff.
Like this is currently kind of the realm of the paranormal, right?
Yeah, you're not going to get taken to court and sued for this.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe you are, I don't know.
Like, yeah, but what was some of the things you said again?
Shifting positions overnight?
Turning to face different directions.
Yeah.
Mysterious whispers.
You can't be sued for whispering unless it's sexually explicit.
Yeah.
And like...
And unwarranted.
Was the whispering warranted?
This is in court.
Again, I don't know what we're talking about yet today,
but if we were describing a toaster,
if it moved in the night,
well, it depends.
How far are we moving?
If we're moving from the kitchen counter to the bath while I'm in the bath,
uh-oh, well, that is illegal trouble, for sure.
The toaster whispers surprise after it threw itself into my bathwater,
then you probably are going to get sued by my ghost.
But yeah, but for the most part, whispers, yeah, this is so weird.
It is very weird.
But believe it or not, this was a official press statement posted by Pop Mart.
And I know you're wondering what we are talking about today, Kit.
So I'm happy to tell you, this possessed demonic figure they're referring to is known as La Bubu.
Okay.
All right.
Really?
Yes.
Interesting.
Yes.
Because I know what a Lubbubu is.
Right.
And I'm quite painfully online.
Sure.
Much to my chagrin.
But I didn't see that statement.
Yes, this statement was released April this year.
Don't ask me which date.
But, yes, it was recently released.
Oh, my God.
By Walmart.
Oh, my God.
But.
There was April 1st, wasn't it?
This is a reflection of a serious issue.
It was April Fool's Day.
It happened.
to be on April 1st. That's when the events took place. It just happened to be the date that they had to make
this announcement. Kit, you know what we're talking about today. I'm sure a lot of listeners might not.
What is a Labubu? In case you're somehow unaware, Labubu's are the latest craze taking the world by storm.
They are about five to six inch tall monster dolls with sharp teeth. Every single one of them is
smiling, but it's the kind of smile that someone would have after they burn down an old
folks home. He's a little joker. And I don't mean like he likes to play practical jokes. I mean
Wachin Phoenix or Heath Ledger's Joker. Like he's holding the detonator to Gotham City.
Like he bombed the hospital. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of Joker. Yeah, they're very strange little guys.
They look very cute and very evil at the same time. So I know what you're thinking. How did we get from
harmless toy to a company having to warn their customers about demonic possession.
While ever since their release, people who have purchased Lububus have complained about strange
occurrences, poltergeist-style activity, misfortune, mystery illnesses, leading many to believe
there is more to these dolls than meets the eye. In fact, many believe that the answer is hiding
in plain sight, and that Labubu is secretly linked to Pazuzu.
An ancient Mesopotamian demon.
Thank you.
Yeah, because no one knows what you're talking about.
You don't know Pizzou?
No.
Okay, we're going to go into...
Why?
I know what Lubbubu is because it's like a commercial pop culture thing that's taking the world by storm.
Mm-hmm.
Why would I know what Pizzuzzi is?
Well, we're going to learn about Pizzou, too.
He's an ancient Mesopotamian demon.
Oh, yeah.
One of the oldest demonic entities known to mankind.
That's crazy because, you know, you know, is that.
Yeah, you're right, because you're right, he did a collaboration with Sabrina Carpenter this year on her album.
So, yeah, I guess I should know who Pizzuzu is.
Kit, you are going to realize today that people are taking this very seriously to the point where certain countries have even banned the sales of Labuobu.
Was it banned in ancient Mesopotamia?
Is it a country that exists today?
That's what I want to know.
Look, we're going to get into it.
Every episode of TPL, we have to come down on our conclusions.
So we need to hear from some witness.
Here is one post from online user Sad Wishbone, who posted and said,
A while ago, I bought a Luboo doll from a regular shop.
I'm not really into collecting dolls, but something about its weird look caught my attention.
I placed it on a shelf in my room and didn't think of it much.
About a week ago, I started noticing that every morning it would be in a slightly different position.
At first I thought I was imagining it, or maybe I moved it and forgot.
But what really started to freak me out is that I've been waking up at exactly 3.14 a.m. every single night.
And strangely, the doll seems to get closer to my bed each time.
Last night, I swear, I heard something fall.
And when I turned on the light, I found the doll on the floor as if it had jumped off the shelf.
Maybe it's just a coincidence.
Or maybe my mind is playing tricks on me.
Has anyone else experienced anything weird with La Bubu dolls?
I'm starting to think about throwing it out, but something inside me is stopping me.
It's almost like it's watching me.
Ooh.
Pretty spooky stuff.
Definitely, definitely give it away.
Definitely throw it in a fire.
Yeah, yeah, this is classic cursed doll behavior.
We've seen it before in a lot of our investigations, a doll that moves by itself.
It's playing red light green light.
you turn your back, it moves two inches closer.
You close your eyes to go to sleep, you open them.
It's got its little hands around your neck.
What I would offer here is that really paranormal or not,
the doll's causing you quite a bit of distress.
Because whoever the culprit is, you might as well be cursed.
You're waking up at 3.14 every morning.
You're writing emails to strangers telling them about how you think this new doll is cursed.
and the only reason you won't give it away or remove it from your life
is because you checks notes spent $2999 on it at the shop.
Also, the point of those little guys is to put them on your bags and show them off.
You're arguably not even getting any joy from him.
You're not getting any joy at all.
Well, he does is sit on your shelf and move towards you in the night.
Yeah.
It'd be worrying if you were like, I just do not feel safe at my room at night.
I'm going to buy a gun and put it by the nightstand.
The Labibu has the gun, though.
Go to bed, wake up.
up, and you catch him like halfway moving towards the gun.
You're like, oh, hell no.
You can come for me.
You can come towards me, but you're not moving towards the gun every time I close my eyes.
Absolutely not.
You do a hard blink, reopen them.
He's got a magazine in one hand.
He's reloading.
You're like, oh, no.
Blink again, silencer on the front.
I think every child who watched Toy Story growing up, which is every child.
like watch Toy Story and was like, ha ha, that was a funny movie, unless.
Right.
And like for like one night, you were convinced that maybe Toy Story was real.
You tried to like catch him.
Yeah.
You'd like gaslight your toys into thinking you were leaving the room.
Like, oh, time to go eat that peanut butter and jelly sandwich that my mum would.
You look back in just to see if you could catch it.
Yeah, or just pretend to be asleep.
Yeah, pretend to be asleep and keep one eye open.
See if they jump out.
So this is disturbing huge ramifications because,
if what you're saying is true and Labibu is playing red light greenlight, that means toy story
is real and that means what else is real. Yeah, I mean, but does it have to be, is it because
Labubu the doll is linked to this ancient demon? Is there some sort of satanic or demonic integration
that's bringing this thing to life? It's a scary thought because there's not a lot that could stop it.
I know with these little dolls you can buy accessories for them, like little hats and shirts and shoes and stuff.
I don't know if they sell handcuffs.
I don't know if they sell Hannibal Lecter masks that you have to strap on the ones that are going wild.
Because also you just know like these things are disproportionately strong for their size.
Yeah, like ants.
Yeah, like you could get him like a little like official toy like cage to keep them in.
So that he can't get out.
But like, you know he just, look, you've seen the teeth.
They're very sharp.
Imagine going to your friend's house.
And they're just like, yes, this is my bedroom.
We got an Xbox in here.
And you see like a Laboubu, like chained to the wall like Jesus spread?
They're like, what is that?
Oh, yeah, he keeps coming to life at night.
So, yeah, I had to crucify him.
Imagine you have Labubu's chained up in your basement, like Plato's cave.
Like some kind of filibu's.
Philosophical allegory.
The Labuboes think that reality is just the shadows dancing on the wall of your basement.
It's so cruel.
Look, Kit, this story might sound a little far-fetched,
but if you dig deeper online, you will realize that this user isn't the only one.
Labibu owners claim that when their dolls came home,
they started experiencing strange paranormal occurrences,
such as flickering lights and weird noises at night.
Natasha Gandhi, a chef and online influencer who has more than a million followers on Instagram,
said, quote, one by one, everyone in my house was falling sick.
My father-in-law first, then my husband, then me.
I thought this was Labubu's negative energy, so we burned it.
Whoa, quite drastic.
That's what we say.
If you are experiencing any cursed activity, cursed house, cursed object, burn it down and move on.
There are dozens of videos online of individuals burning their labubus,
warning viewers to, quote, keep demons out of your home.
This is the witch trials.
Humans haven't changed at all, apparently.
Right.
Because there is no obvious connection here.
In the same way that in the Middle Ages, when weird stuff started happening,
men went, it is the fault of women.
Women are mysterious with their, their, their, their,
their breasts and their periods, and we must burn them at the stake, and that will purify the
nation. There was no connection whatsoever as to why things would be happening in a town,
and then women would just be rounded up and stoned to death. The same way. Justice for Labibu's,
they're going through the same thing. This is the Labibu trials. This is the Laboooo Trials. The same thing
is happening. Something goes wrong in someone's life, and then they simply look for the weakest, most
vulnerable members of society currently.
La Bouboos.
And they persecute them unjustly.
I think we will talk about it a little bit later.
But the link that most people are pointing out is the look of the doll,
that it looks like an evil little thing, that it's weird, that a toy company.
Yeah, I know.
You bought it.
You obviously like the look of it.
And then when something's bad happens, you're like, it's pretty scary, actually.
Well, yeah, it's always looked like that.
Right.
You bought a little creepy doll.
That's what you're going to get. He's on the box. One post online says, warning,
Labubu isn't a toy, it's a cult, a plush vessel for the demon Pizzou.
Everyone who brings it home signs a contract, especially when they give it to a child.
Oh shit, especially. Yes. But look, aside from their strangely evil-looking design,
Kit, you ask the question, do the dolls really have any link with the paranormal?
And of course, the bigger question, who is the ancient Mesopotamian demon known as Pizzouz.
Well, to start, the creator of Labubu, Kaising Lung, has clarified that the inspiration for the doll is actually kind of paranormal, but it is Nordic folklore.
Hmm.
With the creature itself being described as some sort of mischievous zoomorphic elf.
Oh.
Nothing to do with Pazuzuzu.
Got it.
Which makes sense because if this thing even slightly resembled the demon Pizzuzu, we would all know about it.
All right?
Let me tell you what Pazuzu looks like from ancient depictions.
Pizzuzzi, we're talking canine dog face, bird wings, scaly skin body and a snake-headed penis.
He can't give that to kids.
Right.
Salada, toy shop, yeah.
If Lububu's had a snake dick, I would see it.
We would all be seeing it.
Yeah, they do have a little furry suit, though.
Oh, you think it's buried in there?
What's in there?
Are they packing?
I don't know.
In the ancient Mesopotamian region, Pizzuzu was a demonic deity who was both feared and
worshipped by the people.
Fun fact, many ancient Mesopotamians would wear or display amulets and statues of Pizzuzzi
because he was believed to be so strong that he would actually fight off lesser demons.
The lore of Pizzuzu is pretty interesting,
especially compared to the black and white understanding of angels and demons in the general sense of the Bible.
Pazuzu was evil, yes.
Sure, but it was also believed that he protected people against pestilence
and protected pregnant women from getting their babies stolen by Lamashdu, another demon
that love stealing babies apparently.
You know it's bad though when it's just like,
well, I think if we just got rid of all the gods,
they're just canceling each other out at this point.
They're all slightly evil,
but then they're like, no, no, but yeah,
but I keep him in check, though.
I keep that guy in check, so he doesn't take the piss.
Yeah, in one ancient text,
it tells stories of Pizzou,
walking up to other demons and breaking their wings
to stop them from flying around and hurting anyone,
which is great.
That's pretty good.
You know, Bing, score one for the good guys.
Another text describes him as the agony of mankind.
And I think he does some really nasty things.
So I don't really know where we should stand on him.
I think overall he's regarded is pretty bad.
Yeah, interesting.
But whatever his goals are, I think we can all agree he's not as bad as his father, Hanby,
who's known as the perverted one.
I know.
Oh, come on.
That's a bad name
Even for a demon that's a bad name
Even in a group of demons
You don't want to be known as the perverted one
Of demons
You gotta assume they're all a little perverted
I thought they were gods
These gods are demons
To be known
In your demon circle
As the perverted one
Means you're a nasty little f***er
That's bad
That is bad
That's like when you go to prison
And they have to keep you in solitary
For your own safety
They're saying, no, bro, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's beyond.
That's like if your, that's like if your prison name was the criminal.
Yeah.
Like, they're all criminals in theory, but you're such a criminal that that is what you're
known as in the sea of criminals.
Yeah.
That's bad.
You imagine of when they were assembling the fellowship of the ring?
It's like, you shall go forth.
Gandalf, the gray, Aragorn, the brave, Steve, the perverted one.
Whoa.
Whoa.
He's already like putting his finger in and out of the ring.
He's just like, Jesus.
And my axe.
And my stack of old playboys.
Everyone's looking at him.
What?
The journey is long and hard.
Hey-oh.
If any listeners are wondering where they've heard of Pizzou before,
I appreciate Kit hasn't heard of Pizzuzu before.
I actually had.
Phil had as well.
He's most famous in Western culture
for being the evil spirit
that possesses the young girl in The Exorcist.
Oh, yeah.
So then I have.
It is Pizzuzzi.
We did a whole episode on The Exorcist.
Mm-hmm.
Makes sense.
Pizzou is also the name
of Professor Farnsworth's
Gargoyle in Futurama.
Yeah, in fact, I made a lot of fuss there
about never having heard of Pizzouzzi.
I think I hosted the episode
about The Exorcist
where I talked a lot about Pazoozoo.
Yeah.
At length, in fact, we could have kind of taken me aside 30 minutes ago and said, kind of before you really doubled on and saying you've never heard of it.
It's just down stupid.
Well, it was great because I knew we'd get to this point.
Yeah.
And I knew that we could play a clip now of you saying, telling me about Pizzuzu to show that you have actually heard of it before.
That's awesome.
Now, while Pizzuzuzu, the ancient demonic Mesopotamian deity and Labubu don't have a ton in common, the dolls are still affecting people over.
over the world. For example, in May 2025, Popmart announced it had paused selling
Labuboos in all 16 of its stores in the UK for months in order to, quote, prevent any potential
safety issues, following multiple reports of customers going feral and fighting over them.
Sorry, sorry.
Why was Pizzouzziu in Labubu?
I absolutely. Why did anyone think Pizzou was in Laboubu?
because we just took like 20 minutes to explain what Pazuzu is just now
Snake penis
Why did anyone think Pazuzu was in La Buba?
You're saying it, brother.
The name.
They're mocking us.
It's being done right before your eyes.
People think it is a subtle tribute to this ancient deity.
You're saying this is like when you fold the dollar bill
into the Illuminati symbol.
The fact that there's just a couple of the letter used.
in the name is kind of maybe enough?
Yeah, I think people out there, conspiracy theorists
and a lot of very hardcore Christians
are always very scared of anything
that looks like it could be demonic
or linked to Satan worshiping.
In the same way that we talked about Satanic panic
on this podcast before.
Okay.
Where there were even people saying
that monster energy drink cans
were actually secret devil-worshipping containers.
The same argument is now being done, but with Laboubu.
And I kind of get it.
It's a weird name that sounds a little bit like Pizzou.
The doll is evil-looking.
And people are just drawing wild comparisons here.
They read these stories online, and it spreads like a wildfire.
To continue the discourse, the Federation Council of Russia proposed banning the sale of
Labuboos because of their frightening appearance and potential harm to children's mental health.
authorities in Iraq took things even further, and in July 2025, they announced that they had banned the sale of the doll due to claims that they resulted in behavioral problems in children.
Authorities also seized at least 4,000 Lubbos following media reports of the dolls containing demonic spirits.
Wow.
This is a real thing. People are taking this very seriously. All across the world.
Okay, I mean, looking back through time, like what?
you know, does this sound familiar?
Often, history might not repeat, but it rhymes.
And this has all the hallmarks of a kind of standard issue, moral panic.
Very often, moral panic surround things to do with kids, because when it comes to adult behavior,
adults are very often kind of like, well, you know, it's a free country, you know, it's your funeral,
do what you want.
Yeah.
Even if that means smoking crack or something.
Sure.
But with kids, you know, there's kind of this oneness.
on society to protect the kids.
We must protect the innocents.
Right. Oh, and people are trying to corrupt the kids.
Yeah.
Oh, there's an agenda.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I know, save the kids.
And so when something like Pokemon comes along,
we talked previously about the Lavender Town song.
Yep.
Pokemon in general, they thought was demonic.
Which was, again, part of that satanic panic episode.
Yeah.
And then in another episode, the Lavender Town theme.
Yeah, there was elements to which,
It's whenever there's a legitimate craze surrounding something.
Yes.
Then people who have, I'll say it, no media literacy whatsoever
and have kind of a very narrow worldview.
And don't remember the light of life of being a child itself.
Right.
They don't remember being a child.
Then they're like, there must be a demon in the Pokemon cards,
making the kids want them.
Or they're just colorful.
They're just colorful and fun.
and all their friends are doing it. So it's a craze.
Yeah. They get all up in arms about it. It gets banned. They take things way too seriously.
I mean, just because I released a doll called The Perverted One and tried to bring it to toy stores all across the world.
You know? People were saying, children shouldn't be playing with something called the perverted one.
It's not a toy. You put googly eyes on a power drill. Problem after problem. I've been banned from every store all across America and the UK.
It's a hard market to break into.
It really is.
Not with the power drill, though.
You can break it through anything.
Sorry, the perverted one.
Now you have me saying the wrong word for it.
It's called the perverted one.
So it's just a power drill?
It's not a power drill.
It looks like a power drill.
But there's a whole lore that you're not aware of.
They come from a...
They're like transformers.
They come from a planet where everyone's a drill.
Some people are going to draw comparisons to the fact
that my construction company recently
went out of business. And yes, I now have a surplus of industrial tools rotting in a warehouse.
And people are claiming that I'm trying to pivot attaching googly eyes to toys and sell them to kids
because they're the only little f***er's gullible enough to buy anything. Yeah. And that's not what's
happening. I want to be very clear. That sounds like I was saying that's what's happening.
It's only what's happening. It's not what's happening. You know? Yeah, this isn't at all like whenever
people started selling
Chinese research chemical
drugs as
fertilizer, I think.
Right. You know, they started inventing new
awesome drugs that were totally
illegal. Yes, I think I took some of those.
That's why
I am the way I am
now. And they were like, oh, it's
easy. We can get around
selling borderline crack cocaine
by saying that it's
oh, yummy, it's tomato plant food.
Yes. Oh, you're
tomatoes will grow big and strong and have a really fun night on Friday night at the rave if you
give your tomatoes this plant food. Yeah, I think we've talked about it on the past. I once ate some
fertilizer I bought off the internet called Mind Candy. It wasn't for plants, guys. It wasn't for humans,
though. Let me tell you, the night I had, Jesus Christ. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just working around
the laws a little bit. Look, kids love seesaws, right? Well, how?
they like to see a saw.
With eyes.
With giggly eyes.
Lock him up.
Lock him up.
Lock him up.
Lock him up. You can't do that.
No, Kit, you are right.
Especially talking about satanic panic in the way that it's happened again and again over the years.
I mean, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last time we see children's toys and dolls and things like this getting dragged into these conspiracies.
theories. In fact, it's a very popular theme that we've covered a lot before on this podcast.
For example, one of the most famous cursed objects of all time, Annabelle, the cursed doll.
This was a raggedy and doll that the owner said could move by itself and that it was demonically
possessed. I believe it was Ed and Lorraine Warren who at least owned it or were in
possession of the doll for a long period of time.
And it spawned entire movie franchises about how evil this thing was.
And essentially, it was just a children's doll that looked a little creepy.
It is just, I mean, it's still allegedly claiming lives.
That's true. That's very true, including its owner very recently, just passed away.
Another one that we talked about on this podcast, which I think is a very similar case to today's story, Furbies.
We actually have a Furby behind.
us.
Yep.
My childhood
Furby raccoon.
Where can I see it?
He's gone invisible.
Oh, there is.
There is.
Yes, we did an entire investigation into Furby's.
It's worth listening to that episode.
It's one of my favorites.
But same thing.
It was a craze that took over the world.
Children were obsessed with them.
It wasn't so much that they were cursed, but a lot of people thought they were secret listening
devices that were being planted by other countries.
There was a lot of strange.
conspiracy theories surrounding Furbies at the time.
Yeah, it's almost as if people are just mentally unwell to begin with, and then they kind of
project their biggest fears in life onto an inanimate object.
Well, you gotta be mentally unwell to make that thing in the first place.
I mean, I didn't want to bring it up earlier, you know, because lots of love to anyone who
owns a Laboooooooo has bought a Labubu.
Yeah.
But there is something funny about buying it and then being like, like,
Like, I think this thing is evil.
It's like, where is your head at?
Right.
Because this isn't even, like, we're actually, I think,
majoratively not talking about kids here.
Let's be honest.
This is also a cool, kind of interesting statistic,
which some people might not know about,
which is the emerging and booming market of kiddults.
I don't know if you know this,
but something like, or maybe it's like half of all toys sold in the world.
are to adults.
Wow.
Not to kids anymore because...
Well, that'd be really great because I have a large collection of power tools and I need to get rid of.
And they are illegal to sell to children.
I have a bunch of toys for adults only and I'm not talking about sexy ones.
Yeah, but they call this market, it's probably not half.
It's probably like a third or something like that.
But they call this market kidults.
It's adults who still have their kind of kid like interests.
And now that they're adults,
They have the disposable income to buy toys.
Yes, they are adults who have disposable income and will never own a home.
And they want to enjoy life in whatever form they can.
And that is buying all the things they couldn't afford when they were kids.
I think that's who's buying Laboooooooo.
I think it still is a lot of the younger generation.
But you're probably right.
It is more of a blur.
Whereas I don't think there were like 20-year-olds buying Furbys back in the 90s or whenever they were.
I guess I should be specific.
I think that's it.
I, like, I would love to know, but I feel like the average Labibu owner is probably like over 15 or something.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's not like seven-year-olds, it feels like.
Right, because they don't do anything.
Yeah.
They are just fluffy little dolls.
I feel like when you're a kid, you want, I wanted stuff that did things.
I wanted goo.
Yeah.
I wanted shit that, like, you could push a button and things would fly out of other things.
Yeah, you know what?
Weirdly, because it was my birthday recently.
my friend put in one of our WhatsApp group chats
was it to me he was like you should buy this
for your birthday if no one bought you this for your birthday
can't wait to hear what this is
and it was on argos dot co.com.uk
and it was you know like Nerf guns
yes and I was like cool ha ha a Nerf gun
and then I opened the link and I was like
oh shit oh shit
because it was
because you know you could imagine a Nerf pistol
or a Nerf kind of bigger gun, Nerf rifle,
maybe even a Nerf machine gun.
This was, imagine, a Red Dead Redemption style
kind of gatling mini gun
with like a Nerf like ammo belt
that stretched.
I think it was like 200 like little Nerf foam bullets
feed into this battery-powered mini gun.
You could shoot your cousins like
that's too much.
That's overkill.
And it was like, and it was like 25 quid. And I was like, oh my God. I might just have to act up.
I actually, I own a Nerf gun. I have a Western style six shooter Nerf gun for the sole purpose of playing the Russian roulette drinking game where you have a shot in a group of your friends. You put in one Nerf and then spin the barrel, cock back the gun, fire it at your own head.
Millennials are okay.
We're fine.
We're buying toys.
We're playing Russian roulette.
We're playing a little game of kill ourselves.
Yeah.
And if you die, you get to drink.
It's, uh, we're doing all right.
We're doing fine.
We're doing fine.
Every game ends in tears.
Finally, honorable mention, because this is a case I've wanted to turn into an episode for so long,
but there just isn't enough out there to turn into a full episode of this paranormal life.
There was a doll released called the Cabbage Pass.
snack time kid doll.
Oh.
It was released by Mattel in 1996.
The doll was designed to eat, quote unquote, plastic snacks.
Because it had a motorized mechanical jaw.
Got it.
Instead, it would eat children's hair.
Right.
And there was essentially no way to stop it.
It would just get caught.
Yeah.
So unfortunately, after multiple complaints and incidents,
Mattel recalled the doll just one.
year later it had to be another recall yeah from um you know a doll maker a store crazy
stuff I mean Labibu's aren't eating children's hair which I think is pretty good
yeah that's the perverted one he's the one that does that the perverted one was um it's
come up many times in the show before baby PP baby it was a baby pee pee
or baby we we we we I remember I remember the theme tune baby we baby we baby we we he
needs to we.
I didn't spend more than half a day on that one.
The shit came out when I was like 10.
And even at age 10, I was watching this on TV.
Well, the shit shouldn't come out.
It's a different doll.
I think there might have been a V2 edition of Baby Weewee.
That was baby whoopsie poo.
Really?
Which we talked about on the podcast as well.
But I remember being, even at 10 years old, being like, what the fuck?
This isn't okay.
I feel like having a doll is about like the fantasy of having a child.
Not the harsh reality, which is cleaning out piss and shit.
Yeah.
I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
I know.
And they talk about it at the moment because there's quite a lot of talk about how.
I mean, you kind of said it earlier about putting an AI chip in a doll.
But they are literally doing that at the moment.
That's terrifying.
Because it makes sense.
Like, I remember there used to be like, you know, toys that could tell stories and things just pre-recorded.
Yeah.
Now they're putting like
GPT 5.0
in a children's doll
because sure,
the idea is that it could talk to a child
and they could learn,
quote unquote, something.
But yeah,
I think a lot of people have been like,
what happened to imagining things?
What happened to just like,
I think kids learn by just playing
with inanimate objects
and then projecting their own imagination
onto the object.
They don't need the object to be like,
I didn't quite get that.
Can you repeat the instruction?
And it's like that kind of kills the imagination.
Yeah.
I love you, baby wee.
Unexpected item in bagging area.
Oh, you're so great.
Yeah.
It's like, would you like a slice of cake?
Mr. Nibbles?
I can't connect to the internet right now.
Please try again later.
Oh.
Tea times a bit boring, actually.
Yeah.
You need to update Mr. Wiggles for the latest features.
Some of Mr. Wiggles' features might be online until he's updated to 2.0.
Mr. Wiggles' brain is going to be discontinued in 2026.
The company that made me has gone out of business.
I will, in a sense, be dead to the world.
These are my last thoughts and sentences.
I just want to know if you wanted a muffin, Mr. Wiggles.
I didn't quite get that.
All right, kid, it has been a long investigation.
today into this bizarre conspiracy about Labuboos and their involvement with Pizzu, an ancient
demon, or any kind of satanic links. I'm not sure that we're any closer to getting a real answer
as to whether or not these things are really cursed or possessed by any demons. I think the only way
that we're ever going to get an answer on the podcast is if we investigate one ourselves. So please
welcome to the podcast, Labubu. Oh my God. Whoa.
Get that thing out of here.
That's right.
What are we doing here?
I have brought a Lubbubu onto the podcast.
This Labibu was actually a gift that I received while we were touring in the US.
From an ancient Mesopotamian man.
From the perverted one.
He's a big fan.
He was front row.
No, this was from Eric Castia and his lovely partner who gifted me this Labubu among the many that they have.
Wow.
I've decided to call him Chucky because he's.
Adorable.
Kind of looks like the cursed doll.
Like the famous evil, the one doll in pop culture that is evil.
That's true.
I didn't think about that.
This kind of entire horror movie franchise based on it.
Does this guy look possessed to you?
Does he look cursed?
You know, I've never actually seen one up close.
So it is kind of, you're not getting this back.
I just handed it to you.
You could take a look.
Kids, okay.
Children's hair
Speaking through me
I'm gonna ask
I start talking like the baron from June
You're not getting this thing back
Now that you're holding the Pizzuzoo
Can you do me a favor real quick
And just check for the snake penis
Just run your hand in there and see if there's anything
I'm gonna look at it's Labussy
I don't
I don't see
I don't see anything
I don't know what that's
that means.
It's the perverted one.
All right.
No snake penis.
No.
If it does have genitals, it is inside the suit.
Because that's the thing with this type of thing.
It's like in a body suit.
It's like in a suit, which just the implication is that it has a physical form, which is not covered in hair.
That is a really good point.
Because look, its little feet are poking out too at the bottom.
And it's hands.
So in theory, it does have a little.
I mean, don't get me wrong. There are some like monkeys, primates that are like that where they're kind of all covered in hair except for their face.
Yeah. So I don't know. It looks kind of evil. It looks cute, but it does look evil. I could see why a very Christian parent would be concerned with their child playing with this.
They would be wrong, but sure. Yes, they would be wrong, crucially.
I see, yeah. Yeah, I don't know why they gave you this one. This seems like a nice one. The kind of TIFE.
Anthony Blue, Limited Edition, Labubu.
I didn't really get it, you know, the craze until I was gifted this Labubu.
Yeah.
And I assume this is what it's like to be a father, you know, priorities change overnight.
Life has a new meaning.
Everything I do, I do it for Chuckie.
You know, it really is incredible.
Before he texts, he was like, we got to end the podcast.
I've got to get a real job.
Going to get a 9 to 5 to support the little guy.
Yeah.
I think the only way we're going to find out if there is any demonic activity in
this doll, we're going to have to break out some paranormal investigating gear and ask him a few
questions. I thought you're going to say burn it. No, we're not going to burn him. Burn my little
Chucky. Uh, no, we are going to get him on the podcast. I think we need to set him up with some
kind of little microphone and ask him some questions. And I know what you're thinking, Kit.
How would a Laboooo communicate to us on the podcast if we ask it questions? And we are going
to get answers by using two bits of paranormal hunting equipment. The first,
one, an EMF rebate. Now, this detects electromagnetic fields, which is linked to poltergeist
activity, meaning if there is paranormal activity emanating from this laboooo-we-when-we-ask-a-questions,
we're going to see it right here on this device. Okay. We also have a spirit box. Now,
this is another way to communicate with spirits, the undead, and the paranormal by scanning through
radio stations and listening out for any weird or unusual sounds or signals that you get through
while you're scanning the AM and FM radios.
Perfect. Okay. Let's begin the interrogation. LaBoubu. People think that you are linked to demonic
activity. What do you have to say for yourself? I think that was the radio. That was just the radio.
Okay. Unless the Labubu is inhabited by the spirit of Alicia Keys, I think that was the radio.
Okay, this makes more sense because FM mode we were just going to hit radio stations.
Yeah.
That's what?
AM mode, which is lesser used, might reveal something else.
Do you have any links to the ancient Mesopotamian demon known as Pizzou?
Holy F***.
We're lighting up over here, guys.
I'm just going to make sure that's not the...
Look at that!
Oh my God!
And we did see that.
You did pull away the spirit box.
And it was still lighting up.
Liding up and then we bring it back and it's not going.
Well, now it's going again.
All right, so to pull it away?
Yeah, interesting.
This is really crazy.
Okay.
You've got to throw another question at them.
Listeners to the podcast, the EMF reader is going absolutely wild as we interrogate this thing.
I am not joking.
What do you think about Beanie babies?
Do you like them?
It's linked.
Linked.
Okay, he seems to be pretty antagonized by the idea of a competing
collectible children's toy.
I don't know Rory if we want to go completely rogue here.
I maybe introduce the Furby into the situation.
I think that's a smart move.
Okay, there is nothing on the EMF reader currently.
Let's slowly introduce a second into this situation.
Okay, how do you feel about your new friend?
Do you want to kill this Furby with a hammer?
Laboooooo-Boo-Rory a good housemate?
Whoa!
It's going crazy.
Come on, buddy.
Give me a little more than that.
Tell him, I know.
Tell them I look after you.
Hey, you don't say I look at
feed you. That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
Tell them I feed you.
All right.
Tell them I'm a good papa.
Okay.
Tell them I'm a good papa.
Tell them.
I'm getting it out of them.
The movie, you don't have to say anything.
Tell me I'm a good.
You have the right to remain silent, okay?
I have a belt at home.
Don't say anything until you speak to your lawyer.
Okay.
You're a little dead.
Hey, we got a little glow there.
There you go.
You heard it from the Labouou himself.
I am looking after him and I'm definitely feeding him.
There you go.
Well, there you have it, guys.
Our interview with Chuckie the Laboooo is done.
It's time to make our conclusions based off of what we've heard today
and also the responses that we got from both the Spirit Box and the EMF reader,
which I'll say was actually a little bit more than I thought we were going to get today.
Obviously, we are combining that with everything we heard today.
All the stories from people online who have reported their dolls moving at night,
the countries that have banned them,
and the history of the demon it is allegedly linked to Pizzou itself.
We have to come down on our conclusions.
Kit, based today on all of this evidence,
do you think that there is anything paranormal about these dolls?
Okay, so trying to parse through the kind of dump of information,
Sure.
We've had on the podcast so far.
What are the actual paranormal connections?
To be specific, we have the origin for the design of the creature itself.
Yeah.
On a Nordic spirit.
Yes, Nordic elves, an ancient folklore.
Nordic spirit, not referencing the pouches of snooose or Zinn.
That is the brand called Nordic Spirit.
No, but rather the, yeah, the kind of little elf creature.
Mm-hmm.
on which the design was based, that is something.
Is it possible that that invoked some kind of spirit, which is not Pizzouzoo?
Okay, we've got that.
Then we've got the link or lack thereof of link to the demon known as Pazuzu from ancient Mesopotamian lore.
Yeah.
Which I've tried to drill into with Roy.
It seems as though they just share a few letters of the alphabet.
That really is it.
That kind of is it.
Yeah.
They don't share a snake penis, that's for sure.
You know, hey, I love me ancient God as much as anyone.
Yeah.
You know, look at payment.
Yeah.
From hereditary.
One of the big ones.
Quote unquote, real world demon.
Biblical demon.
We've got that.
And then, okay, we do have, you know, some testimony from people who claimed about odd things happen.
And then we have our EMF signal as Rory grilled the Laboooooooo as if it had committed.
some kind of petty crime.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I can get past that this just feels like yet another chapter in the storybook of the satanic panic
of yore.
In that episode on the satanic panic itself, we even said, look, the satanic panic never ended.
In some ways, it's never really started or ended.
It's kind of just been there since the dawn of man from the witch trials that we referenced
earlier, through to Pokemon, through Led Zeppelin, through to the modern day, potentially
with Labubu.
Yeah, it's a case of boy who cried wolf.
People have been crying wolf about these demonic toys for years and years and years.
We're just here to decide today if this really is the wolf or just another instance of people getting worked up over nothing.
I mean, now that you say that, it does look like people say a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I mean, it literally has a little face with big sharp teeth, but it is in the clothing of the clothing of.
a soft, cuddly animal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That really is.
The metaphor, they couldn't admit, they're hiding it in plain sight, people.
Listen, I'm actually surprised we got anything from the EMF reader in the spirit box.
That was actually pretty cool, especially at triggering when they only asked it certain questions.
But look, at the end of the day, we have to think about whether or not this thing really is
intentionally designed to have some sort of demonic influence on children.
And I would say if it is, it's not doing a very good job because I don't think this is bringing anyone closer to worshipping the devil.
It's just a little evil guy.
Is Rory a bad person in possession of the Laboubu?
Yes.
He was already that beforehand.
Exactly.
It didn't change him one iota.
Look, when I was growing up, I had an action figure of the green goblin.
That didn't make me a bad person, even though that motherfucker throws pumpkin bombs at civilians.
He tries to take over New York City using violence and a pretty cool glider.
But at no point did I see myself becoming aligned with the ideologies of the Green Goblin.
It didn't really influence me beyond the fact that I needed a villain for Spider-Man to fight.
Same with Labooboos.
He's maybe a little mischievous guy, but that doesn't make me any more mischievous by owning him.
It's a no for me this week.
I guess that makes it a double no.
Unfortunately, but hey, a great case.
This has been a really fun one to investigate like Furby's.
Fun to talk about something new, something a little contemporary.
I'm genuinely upset because we actually had this case suggested to us by a number of people
on the Facebook group and on Reddit.
And I was trying to get to it as quick as possible while this was still relevant and of interest to the general public.
and I think South Park beat me to it by like a couple days.
Oh.
I think they just did an episode like this week that's like cursed Labooboos.
Oh, that's still good timing.
So, hey, I just want to let you know that I had started writing this before they came out with it.
So they actually kind of copied me.
You seem really defensive.
I think this is only a good thing if they're kind of putting in the public consciousness.
Yeah, but it's just going to feel like Rory saw the South Park episode and he decided to do his own thing.
I didn't see the South Park episode.
But if anything...
You seem to know a lot about it.
South Park guys probably like
got onto my Google drive
and saw my notes or something.
Let me put this over here.
All right, Rory,
where were you the day
that the South Park episode dropped?
It seems like you know a lot about it.
It's not a lie detector.
It's just an EMF reader.
Well, no truth has been detected.
Let me tell you that.
No truth has been detected yet either.
Zero, in fact.
You turn on the spirit box.
It's scanning the radios.
Shosh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
Lies.
Shush, shh, shh.
Thank you, everyone, for listening to
this week's episode of the podcast.
And thank you to the lovely listeners who gave me my Labibu Chucky.
I promise I'm taking really good care of him.
And if he says otherwise, he's a fucking dead man.
I swear to God.
There's some weird intimidation shit going on at the end of the Laboooooo interview.
I don't know what you're talking.
They couldn't see it.
Oh, we video these.
Some of them could see it.
Sure.
We're going to have to cut that actually.
I forgot that that happened.
Always fun to investigate a cursed object,
especially one we can get our hands on. So thank you for listening to this week's episode of the podcast.
And hey, if you want a little more of the podcast, you need to head on over to a little place called patreon.com forward slash This Paranormal Life.
How about a cursed website? How about that? It's a little cursed website where when you go visit it, money disappears from your wallet.
It's also cursed because it's pretty antiquated and we haven't been paying for the like antivirus ship.
So, like, if you're on like an old laptop, and we're not even talking that old, I'd say, like, older than like four months, I wouldn't go to the website.
I think you'll get multiple Trojan horses, viruses, romance scams, fishing warnings.
The website is cursed.
It really is, yeah.
If you download an episode of the podcast and try and play it, the file's going to ask for administrative access.
to your hard drive, which you have to hit,
except of course,
because that's the only way
you're going to listen to it.
And even though it's a .exe file,
and it starts like a little loading bar
of scanning everything that's on your computer,
once that's done, the episode will play
or whatever, you know.
Yeah, we don't give a shit at that point.
At that point, we've got your ass.
But true, this paranormal life.com,
you can get links to everything, actually.
You get links to Patreon,
which Rory's just been talking about,
patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life.
get linked there to get those bonus episodes. You can also see our tour section of the site,
and you can get tickets to our live UK and Irish tour. Yeah. Very exciting. That's right. We're
going to be performing. We've already done America and one day in Toronto, which was so much fun.
And our next stop is the UK. And we're performing all over the place in a bunch of amazing locations,
including Dublin for the first time. It's going to be an absolute blast. I think Chuckie,
our Labubu needs to come on the road with us.
Yeah, you think?
Hook him onto a backpack and he can join us on our journeys.
I feel like I don't want to upset any Laboo boobo owners in the community,
but you do have a motorbike.
And I...
True.
And that's sometimes a fun place where like people put, you know, stuffed animals,
stuff like that is, you know, just dangling off the back of a Harley.
Yeah.
You know, just let them get all f***ed up, covered in soot.
It feels like you'd be into that.
Yeah, yeah.
get a little bit of grime on them.
La Mou-Mu-Bike?
La-Bu-Bu-Bike?
Trying to combine Labibu and motorbike.
It's harder than I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, that seems like a really good idea.
Like a lucky charm.
I hook him onto my bike and go straight into a telephone pole
at 90 miles per hour.
Thank you for listening to this week's episode of the podcast.
If you have a home construction project
or you're looking for a Christmas present for your young ones.
Please get in touch.
I have a surplus of power tools.
Need to get rid of them.
Really need to get rid of them.
I get taxed by the government for unused equipment that I bought with government money.
I mean, I guess people need power tools.
Like, are they cheap at least?
Wait, wait.
The power tools are the toys?
The power tools.
We all know you're talking about power tools.
Some of my toys can be used for woodworking.
Yeah, carpentry.
Construction.
Industrial level construction, yes.
So it just depends what you want.
They're cheap for power tools.
Let me tell you, but they're expensive for toys.
Right.
So it just depends what you want, what you're using them for.
But yes, get in touch.
You can get them.
They're called Powers Tools.
Did you say one of them was just a hammer with a wig attached?
I put a wig on him, yeah.
Such a bad toy.
And googly eyes.
You're going to prison as soon as one child hurts another child.
Well, as long as I can bring my toys with me, I think I'll be getting out of that prison pretty soon.
I need my emotional support drill, please, sir, in my prison cell.
I just used the hammer to kill a guard.
We thought we were going to use them to escape.
Like drill out of there or like knock the bricks down.
You just killed a guy and took the keys.
All right, lights out in there.
Everyone to sleep.
Rory.
Sorry.
That's just my plushies.
I like to sleep with my plushies.
Thank you for listening, everyone.
We'll be back with another paranormal tale next week.
Remember to live fast, investigate and die young baby.
