This Paranormal Life - The Omen - The Most Cursed Movie Production of All Time?

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

When The Omen premiered in 1976 it caused a stir globally. While continuing the legacy of recent supernatural horror movies like Rosemary’s Baby, and The Exorcist, it almost went a step further by depicting the anti-christ himself in the character of little Damien. Religious leaders were worried that depicting the anti-christ and his work would invite chaos and destruction — and they weren’t wrong — the movie production would become one of the most disastrous and infamous with several deaths linked to what would eventually be known… as the curse of The Omen. Become a commune member to get access to bonus episodes:www.thisparanormallife.com Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join our Secret Society Facebook Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Edited by Philip Shacklady ⁠⁠Research by Ewen Friers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's the mid-70s and we're on a movie set in London. The director shouts. Got it, let's reset for one more before we lose the light. Can we get the animal handler in here? It's been a long day filming with a star cast and crew and everything has been going smoothly so far. The final scene of the day involved a couple of Rockmiler dogs. These dogs were no exception. They probably had more IMDB credits than Kamal Nanjani and were very well behaved.

When all of a sudden something overcomes the dogs, they see red and they see red and snap and start savaging the stuntman on set Terry Walsh. Ah, help! He cries. Someone yell cut! This is good tape, keep rolling for a second, then cut. The animal handler kicked into action and thankfully the stuntman survived, but he was extremely rattled. Trainer said it was extremely unusual.

Special effects guy, George Gibbs later said, the dogs actually bit right through everything, the padding, all the steel, the lot. Terry passed out. Unfortunately for the cast and crew, this wasn't an outlier event. This was the latest chapter in the most terrifying and disturbing project any of them had been involved with and cemented in many of their minds that something was off. Maybe the rumors were true. Was this movie really cursed? How did it happen? Or did the dogs just know something about that guy? We don't. Answers to these questions and more on Hello and welcome back to this paranormal life, the weekly comedy podcast where every week

we investigate a different paranormal tale, deciding by the end whether we think it's real or not. How you doing today, Rory? Doing great today, Kit. Wow, what an opening story to kick us off today, a guy who was eaten alive by dogs. Well, yeah, he stayed alive, but yeah, he was eaten. Terrifying, terrifying. You know, I talked about it on the after party this week, but, you know, I've also had a bit of a terrifying time over the last couple of days. Just this weekend, I was shit on by a seagull.

Huge. All down my back. It was insane. The problem is you did deserve it, just because of all the stuff you've done in your life. But I am sorry to hear that. Yeah. So listen, I get it. Animals going wild and attacking humans. It happened to me too. Yeah. And there was no animal wrangler on set to help me and defend me. I was put in a corner and put in a position where I had to punch a bird in the neck. And I don't feel good about that, guys. Do they have a neck? I guess they do have a neck. Seagulls have a neck for sure. I'm like, oh, it's terrible what you did to a seagull, you're like, Siegel? It was a budgie. Someone's pet budgie. I'm so sorry. It's weird that you didn't do laundry since then, though, because I can smell it from here. Yeah, well, I knew we had

the podcast, so I was like, I'll get one done and then I'll wash. Yeah, yeah. It's fine. I ran out of vanish oxy action. I will say, based on that little bit of the intro, that the animal trainer said this was, quote, extremely unusual. I think the animal trainer kind of has to say that's unusual. I don't know if he's keeping his job either way, but he's definitely not keeping it. If he's like, yeah, that happens. Most movies, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're supposed to train the animals.

And the animals should be trained. So when they do something mental, you can't just say, oh, no, they do this sometimes. It's like, well, you didn't train them very well, dead, unless you trained them to kill. Imagine they hit rolling And you see an animal handler go It's like what is it I forgot to train that one Oh

I just realized Just realized I got them mixed up Back at the stable Or wherever I keep them I forgot to train that one It's totally wild Rory

We have a blockbuster Literally paranormal case To get into today I think you kind of know The audience will probably know From the title of this episode That might be a little bit

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Because of some of the things that legally we've been doing behind the scenes. Let's just say the animals we have aren't trained. They're bringing my wife as a key witness next week. How f*** is that? My chick. She's supposed to have my back. Isn't that what they say when you get married, in sickness and in health,

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where somewhere I've never been. The first class row of a Boeing 747. Nice. The jet is cruising high over the Atlantic on a night flight from New York to London. Excuse me, Mr Peck. Oh, I'm such a big fan. I was wondering if I could get an awker off. No problem.

Anything for a fan. By the way, aren't you a little young to be a pilot? It's just my voice, sir. My vocal cords were destroyed at a young age. Anyway, I must get back to fly on the plane. A-list move. Movie star Gregory Peck sat back in his first class seat thinking about what a strange place England was. When he turned to the script laid out next to him, he had to rehearse lines for an upcoming role.

After all, that's what brought him to England. But just as he started reading, there was an unbelievably loud boom on board, accompanied by a huge flash of light. Everyone screamed. Evening everyone, remain calm. We've just been hit by a bolt of lightning. Well, we, it does happen occasionally, but we're perfectly safe. It's nothing to panic about. Oh wait.

One of the engines is on fire. Everyone starts panicking. But your hands between your knees. Preserve your dental records. But thank God for the future of cinema. The pilot managed to make an emergency landing and everyone on board survived. But Peck was shaken. He went to a nearby payphone and called the movie's producer, Mace.

Mace, I'm afraid I'm going to be late to set. That's okay, Gregory. I'm lucky to make it in one piece myself. The strangest thing happened. My flight yesterday was hit by lightning. And then you won't believe it. David, who wrote the whole thing, he got in two weeks ago when his flight was hit with lightning too. It's almost like this whole production is freaking cursed or something. Greg? Greg? Greg. Gregory is presumably going straight back to New York at this point. Something wasn't right. The movie they were about to shoot dealt with heavy. dark, demonic, supernatural themes. So it felt like the triple lightning was a sign. Dare I say, an omen? Yeah, unless the movie dealt with aluminium,

it shouldn't be attracting this much lightning. It is genuinely mad. I mean, I know it definitely does happen. Planes do get hit with lightning. And I think it's generally safe, isn't it? Isn't that what they always say? Is that like a car is a safest place to be in a, like, lightning storm?

Oh, on a lightning storm? Maybe. I'm just going to say a word right now. Faraday cage. Isn't that what they call it? A Faraday cage. If you have a metal frame, I don't know. It somehow cancels the whole thing out.

So you could get... Zeus himself could be trying to fuck you up. If you're in your Volvo, you'll be totally safe. Damn, that's crazy. And I think a plane works much the same. I don't know. When I was growing up, if there was a thunderstorm,

I would run out into the middle of a field and hold an aluminium baseball bat as high as I could, hoping I would get shocked and develop some sort of supernatural baseball abilities. I tell you about the time we played baseball at school and I

hit a humdinger. I don't know what the professional term is. I shocked myself as an unathletic little nerd. Humdinger, I'm like, I'm tears in my eyes. I'm going to get a bit home run, man. And I'm like, just run around. I get back to home plate.

And the teacher, I'm like, I'm expecting everyone. cheering for me. The teacher, the face is twisted, furious. I was like, what I do? And they were like, oh, get the hell out! And I was like, what did you do? Apparently, as soon as I had hit the ball, I just swung the bat behind me into a crowd of kids.

I almost killed like three people. I just got so excited. I threw it behind me. They were like, get the f*** showers! That's great. My sporting moment over in seconds. Look, Rory, I kind of gave a tease there earlier. If anyone hasn't figured it out today,

we're talking about the making, one of the most abnormally charged movies in history. Rory, I guess I could say, It's all for you. It's Richard Donner's horror masterpiece, The Omen. Nice. Very exciting. I don't know what the, it's all for you. What is that?

Have you seen The Omen? I don't think I have. It's genuinely. It's something that, like, I think that's how I saw. I think I saw it such a long time ago. barely remembered it. And then, so I had to do a big refresh for this. I didn't include you in that because I didn't want to like spoil things or whatever. But that's interesting. You haven't seen it. So the it's all for you. If you have seen it, it's one of the most iconic, Phil's Notting's Head.

It's one of the most iconic lines. And really one of the like the first, because the movie's pretty slow up until that point. It's pretty slow broiling. Yeah. But then I think there's like a birthday party scene and they're all chilling and all the kids are having fun. And then the nanny of the house we're first getting a glimpse. I'm jumping ahead here. The little boy's evil guys. He's evil.

And the kid's nanny is like, hey, Damien, Damien. And everyone, like, she's shouting and everyone's like, what, what? And they look up to the building and she's got a noose around her neck. And she's like, look at me, Damien, it's all for you. And she jumps off and hangs herself.

Body smashes through the building. Jesus. But it is. For a movie made in the 70s, it's genuinely still pretty unsettling. It's like, it's, to me,

we'll get into more about the movie and like its legacy, but I think that's a, it's a really awesome introduction into the movie kicking off into its creepiness, you know. I thought you were quoting my stepdad when he came home with nine bags of poison.

You got back with a trunk. full of rat poison. You're like, you've got a rat problem? He's like, I've won. I got one rat. I got a problem with it. He locked eyes of me and said it's all for you. And I was like, you're not even being discreet, Steve. Like, I'll just move out. I don't have to come to this. Jesus. Seven bags of poison. It's like a shit nursery rhyme. Seven bags of poison. Take it to the market. Got a shitty stepson by a bag of poison Well I'm sorry to potentially spoil a scene of an iconic horror movie But

It's like 30 years old No 50 years old Yeah but I think a lot of people will be in our camp They might have seen clips Maybe they even seen it a long time ago Need a refresher But it is one of the most iconic horror movies of all time But even if you've seen it

You might not know that the black magic Wasn't limited to on screen The Omen is considered one of the most cursed movie productions of all time. Well, they set a bunch of dogs on a guy to start. Yeah. That's not good. Unfortunately, we've covered enough old-timey movie productions to know that they just did that kind of thing to get a good shot back then. Yeah, yeah. They said it was like an accident on screen, but then everyone was winking at each other.

But of course, rest assured, if you have not seen the film, you're all good. You don't need to have seen the flick to enjoy this episode. We can start with some background for the movie itself. The Omen very much both picks up from and fits into the very influential, religious, or satanic movies of the 60s and 70s, some of which we've mentioned before in this paranormal life, Rosemary's Baby in 1968, The Exorcist and Carrie. Yeah. The film itself follows a US diplomat working in London who, after his newborn baby dies during childbirth, he accepts a mysterious orphaned baby from a Roman person. convent, passing it off as his own. I will say, adopting is a beautiful thing, obviously, but my God, you have to be careful about accepting a mystery baby. Look for the horns. Like, best case scenario, don't get me wrong. That baby turns out to be the next Steph Curry.

True. And then everyone wins. The family, the baby, uh, basketball itself. But worst case scenario, you have a changeling on your hands. Yeah, yeah. I think we actually haven't done an episode of the podcast on yet, I don't think. We've done for like fairies and stuff. Oh yeah, we've probably touched on it. Yeah. Changelings. Now, nonetheless, the child joins the family and the little boy, Damien, grows into a creepy

little raspy-voiced weirdo, who, along with a sinister new nanny and a hellhound-style rotbiler, appears to bring death to those around him. The question, of course, for Gregory Peck, the father in it, is why. But after a few visits from a panicked priest and an impromptu trip to Jerusalem, we discover that Damien is the son of the devil, the Antichrist himself. Good Lord. These are very heavy themes. Even today, let alone the early 70s, especially for a Christian country like America.

And look, we'll get into a little about the Antichrist and what it means to make a movie about him later on. But for now, at this point, the lightning striking three planes of crew flying in to make the movie is very freaky, but mostly just a weird, creepy coincidence. Unfortunately, it was what happened after filming started that would disturb them even further. I mean, amazingly, they weren't even done with plane drama. For one scene, they actually needed a plane to film and an organized for a flight to be chartered. Except this time, unlike Gregory's flight, this plane never arrived. Uh-oh. They were waiting around for it all day when the crew finally got word of the plane's whereabouts,

and they couldn't believe what they were hearing. As the plane took off just off the runway, a flock of birds flew into the plane's engine causing it to crash, killing everyone on board. Not only that, this is, I shouldn't laugh, this is insane. It's so tragic. Not only that, when the plane crashed, it crashed in to the pilot's family car,

killing his whole family. Why would you laugh at that? It's just crazy. Oh, and fun fact, by the way. I said it wasn't funny. I said I shouldn't laugh at all right. actually hit his wife and kids. I'm just saying it's like it's hard to believe.

You ever just giggle because something's hard to believe? The fuselage actually went down into an orphanage and exploded. There was like 19 kids just turned to dust immediately. There's a little fun fact for you. Yeah. I didn't say it was the fun fact. One other fun facts. The pilot was one day from retirement.

There was a newly engaged couple on board. And, oh yeah. someone had the cure for AIDS in the back. The back of the plane for some reason. So, yeah. So we lost that one too. Just a couple of fun facts for you. Imagine being that pilot.

It's like, we got all the cargo loaded up. Yeah, we got the British Crown Jules, the cure for AIDS, cure for cancer. We have the, what else? Ten Commandments. They found the tablet. Got the Ten Commandments back there. Hopefully nothing bad happens.

Hey, watch how many of these seagulls I can hit. When the director, Richard Donner, found out about it, he said, It could have been us. That's such a selfish response. A very self-centered way. That's awful. To think about it. Just say it's bad.

Just say it's sad. Awful. To cancel the film, maybe. That's so bad. And in a 2005 documentary about the events, they said, quote, mysteriously on that day, essential safety equipment had been switched off. I think they actually did have... I'm not laughing. They did actually have...

The airport is supposed to have... Why are you giggling about this? Bird scaring technology. Okay, that is funny. It's kind of funny. They just put scarecrows on the wings. They're supposed to have so... But mysteriously, it was turned off.

Were these the first lives to be claimed by... The Omen! Oh, um... Possibly. Maybe. Possibly. We don't know. I mentioned already the event with the Rottweilers attacking.

a stuntman. Now, if you haven't seen the film, the dogs are very symbolic of the movie because they're supposed to be real-life hellhorns, literally sent from hell to Earth to Guard Damien, the Antichrist. It's their job to cause chaos and destruction. And as we saw, it's like these dogs decided to go, p-h-meth at Daniel Day Lewis mode. But that also wasn't the only animal problem on set. The day after the production film scenes at Windsor Zoo, one of the keeper's 22-year-old Sidney Bamford was attacked and killed by a tiger. Oh my god. According to a newspaper at the time, the tigers sprang out for some trees and Bamford 22 tried to fight it off with a long pole.

The fellow ranger with a high-powered rifle was too far away to risk a shot. By the time he ran near and shot the tiger, Bamford was dead. Damn, so they both died? Oh, the tiger too? Yeah, blew that tiger's head off. That's a good question. Nobody wins in that situation. Because I feel like if a dog attacks someone, they always put down the dog.

It's like, you are a threat to society. K-9. But a tiger, it's like... But it's in his nature. It's kind of his job. You know? He's king of the jungle. I don't know why I'm hesitating so much over defending the tiger, but it's like, yeah.

He didn't deserve to be shot in the head, no. It's not his job to be a law-abiding citizen. Yeah, exactly. We took him from the jungle. In fact, the best. baboons during the zoo scene of the movie behaved unusually aggressively too it said the terror portrayed in the movie by Harvey Spencer Stevens who played Damien is said to be not acting Bill play the evidence they did a good job of getting shots of the boy where he looks kind of evil

yeah he's doing a little like he looking down the camera lens just then so I think that is the baboons the animals can sense he's evil. Yeah. But then the baboons retreat from kind of, oh well, they flip from retreating to just straight up attacking the car. Damien and his mum.

Yeah, that's not acting. That is zero percent acting. This kid has tears in his eyes. Isn't it crazy what you could feel? Like, don't you just know there was like no animal protection or that? You know the way nowadays they say like, no animals were harmed in the making us,

They just drove through London Zoo with a bunch of baboons on the hanging off the car. You know that kid's jacket was stuffed with bananas. You know there's like a last minute outfit change where they were like, can you put this on really quick? It's just an outfit change for the set. And this thing is dripping in bananas.

It's got to be. Slather him in banana syrup. God, that's crazy. Man, I was scared the shit out of me, too. I would not be found within 100 meters of one of those animals. Yeah. Because aren't they the scary ones?

Baboons, yeah, they are scary. Like, they're the ones that it's like... Yeah, thanks. It's like the way dolphins secretly do sexual assault to people. They look that up. You're only ready for that conversation. No way. It's like baboons.

There's like stories of it's like, it's like, oh, a guy fell in the baboon enclosure and they like... Pulled him apart. Spanked his ass and then like ate him ass first. And then stuffed his arm inside his eyeball socket. Like, they were free. They're weird, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't give him an opening. That's what I say. Don't bend over. Look, there are a lot more events to come that would plague the Omen's production. But let's take a pause to look at why cursed movies are even a thing and what would cause a movie production to become cursed. We've actually already looked at some of them in the past. Two key ones being the Wizard of Oz and The Exorcist. Interestingly, the Wizard of Oz goes to prove a couple things.

doesn't have to be a horror movie or a dark subject matter to be cursed although the story of a little girl with no parents living in rural Kansas is pretty dark and fun fact it's also considered the first example of a cursed movie production. There you go doesn't have to be scary, just has to have

a severe lack of health and safety on set. Well come on now and that'll do it. That'll make your movie cursed. Hey they tried their best when they abused all those extras and movie stars and didn't pay anyone and the whole thing kind of burned down fell apart around them. And painted the tin man with poison lead and gave the witch a broomstick that exploded.

It's like, come on, guys. Did the broomstick explode? The broomstick exploded. Yeah. It really did. That's kind of fire. She thought she was magic for a second. What? It exploded like a rocket. She actually got air. Yeah. Yes. We did an episode all about that. I think a bonus episode. Am I right? It was. Yes. This paranormal life.com links in the description. Go check it out. Seven day free trial starting. Now, go listen to that bonus episode. Genuinely, though, that is a good tip. That was a good bonus episode investigating one of the most famous cursed movie productions of all time to give you a teaser, as Roy said,

exploding broomsticks. And one scene that involved a poppy field, the poppies were made of 100% industrial asbestos, which was smart. Why not just use real puppies? It's Hollywood. We can afford puppies. There can't be hard to source. Flowers?

Yeah. It's like, yeah, we just, they were out of flowers, so we just, we just used poison. Yeah. We just thought that would be easier. Yeah. That would be great. Don't tell anyone. Oh, I saw crazy.

This is apropos of nothing. Just talking about poison. I saw a crazy video the other day. I was up too late and watching Instagram reels. And I think it was like, it was like a clip from a documentary where they talked to like U.S. and British soldiers who. who lived through nuke testing after World War II

and you know classic just like they just send us out in a naval ship to the Marshall Islands and they just and they didn't tell us what was happening

they said don't know the experiment today everyone line up on deck and don't look at the light that's dark and yeah and they were and they exploded

they dropped the nuke you know around the Marshall Islands wherever it was. And like the descriptions are so creepy because all the guy, I mean, they say it's all like terrifying stuff. They're like, oh, it's the brightest light you could ever imagine. It's unbelievable. They were like it feels like someone's microwaving you. Just a rush of heat. Yeah. But the wildest bit of all was they said, you know, everyone was told to kind of like, you know, bury your eyes in your shoulder, the crook of your shoulder so that your eyes are covered.

And they were like, but when the blast went off, everything. went x-ray. They were like, you could see your bones, your veins, and you could see the bones and veins of everyone around you. You are too close to the bomb, brother. You're too close to the bomb. Jeez. Damn. That creep me. I was watching at like midnight, like, holy fuck. I've talked about it on the podcast before, but there's a great documentary about that. It's the bomb testing they did, and I believe a place called Bikini Atoll or something. This has to be it. Yeah. That is the Marshall Islands. Yeah. And in this documentary, it's a lot of it. It's a lot of It's like narrated by a bunch of people that were there.

And then, slight spoiler alert, the end of the documentary, it shows you the men that have been narrating the entire documentary. They ain't doing so good. They ain't doing so good anymore. Some of them don't look like men anymore. Looking like down SpongeBob and Squidward. I don't know what to tell you. They look like they live a bikini bottom.

It's harrowing stuff. It's pretty bad. Yeah. Check it out, though. documentary. Kit was probably giggling the whole way through. No, all right. Just like slapping my knee. Popcorn going. No, I was going silent because, you know, it's just, I don't know, sometimes you realize we live in the most kind of evil empire in the world's history, you know, like surpassing even the Mongolians and, you know, the cruelty of the Roman Empire,

you know, feeding peasants to the lions in the Coliseum. Somehow we've managed to surpassing. that by creating weapons that God never intended to exist. Yeah, keep it like... Sorry. Keep it like... Remember the omen? Sorry, the little boy played the devil. Let's get back to it.

As I say, some of these most famous cursed movies, the Wizard of Oz was a little bit different, but the Exorcist was a lot more similar to the omen because the content of the film was so demonic and dark. People, particularly Christians, actually protested its release, calling for it to be banned. and they weren't at all surprised to hear there were so many deaths involved in its production.

If you remember, it wasn't just religious people who were scared. The director of The Exorcist actually called on a priest to bless the set because they were so convinced they were being haunted. Damn, that's crazy. You do wonder, like, if other, like, art forms had as many deaths as movie productions, you just wouldn't get to make those things. Yeah, yeah. We've said it before.

theater, live performances, movie sets, they're just dangerous places. There's a lot that can go wrong. Yeah, I like tricks. Yeah, whereas like, if you're like Michelangelo, you know, not that much

it's going to go wrong when you're making your art. I was going to say, yeah, like, imagine if every non-end, non-in, like Picasso just killed the guy. Right. It's like, well, the paintings are really good. Yeah. The worst thing that ever happens to me when I paint

is I accidentally drink from the paint, cup. That's pretty bad. Let me tell you. I've done that way too many times. That would explain a lot about you. Just drinking leaded pain your whole childhood. That's the smartest thing

they do. Because I have a four-year-old. That's one of the smartest things they do is they make all kids stuff non-toxic. They're just like, look, we know they're not going to drink the paint. But just in case. Just in case they do. Yeah. We know. Why would they eat the Play-Doh? It smells bad.

It looks weird. Smells great. But let's just make it non-toxic. Just in case. They should just do that with adult stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Way more stuff. Yeah.

Because I'm going to eat it. Let me tell you. Yeah. So, of course, the Exorcist was bad enough, but in the case of the omen, they actually kind of almost take the stakes of the exorcist even further, not just by depicting a possessed individual or a demon, but by depicting the Antichrist himself. And the film actually tones down many of the book's references to the devil. For the movie, they wanted to create more ambiguity around whether Damien really was the Antichrist. Because that kind of forms the tension at the core of the movie. It feels in some way so obvious that he's going to kill everyone around him.

But Damien never really does anything, you know, himself. It's all kind of implied. And they wanted to make it such a painful decision for his dad to be like, oh shit, is my adopted child the devil? Do I need to kill him? Jesus. You know, it's very heavy. Yeah.

So they did tone it down for the movie, but... Sounds like you could just let the monkeys have him. You don't have to do any of that work yourself. The problem is, Roy, if you've seen the movie, that's what the nannies for. She's like a fucking ninja. Anyone steps in, tries to mess him up. That's why the nannies are.

That's why the dogs are there. They're the guardians. No one can get close to Damien. I see. Okay. But even so after the toning down, they do fit in a lot of biblical lore from the Old Testament about, you know,

when the sky clouds over Babylon and the river meets the ocean, the son of the devil, blah, blah, blah, blah. The number of the B-66-alleges. Allegedly, it is actually the omen that popularized the number of the B stuff. That's cool. Allegedly, audiences weren't really aware

of like the Book of Revelations, the number of the B-666, all this stuff. Damn. It was kind of put on the map. That's crazy. Because it's one of the plot lines in it is that the priest is like, if you don't believe me,

of the boy is the Antichrist, he will have a birthmark and the mark will be 6666.6. And then he's like, well, I'm his dad. He doesn't have a birthmark. I know it. And he's like, next time he's sleeping, cut his hair. You're going to find it. And then it's like the dramatic music and he's cutting off the hair and you see this gnarly little birth mark, 666. Whoa. That's pretty cool. So yeah, you can see why it popularized it. And then guys in metal bands were like, oh, yeah, that's dope, actually. But I don't know if you know anything. Me and you had a pretty Christian upbringing. I don't know if you know anything about the Antichrist. No, not a lot. Not a lot, except that he's the opposite of the good guy. I think he comes at the end of the book. Right. And don't worship him. Definitely

to worship him. Don't do that. Because at the end of the book, yeah. Yeah. He kind of leaves the whole thing on a cliffhanger, tease up the next season. Yeah, yeah. But no, no, not really anything even about like his appearance or what he does. It's a pretty pretty. Interesting feature of Christianity. Not one I really knew anything about they don't spend a ton of time on that in school. You know, they want to focus on the positive stuff. But it is interestingly considered to be a real person that has existed since the first century. Damn.

This is why they don't want to talk about him in class. It's because like, listen, Jesus did some awesome stuff. No one's here to deny that. The water, the wine thing, the walking on water, that was sick. When he flipped all those tables in the nerd hole, awesome shit. Nerdle. But...

The Yu-Gioconference? But then if the kids are just like, oh, hey, and who's this other guy? It's like, oh, well, he's the Antichrist. And it's like, okay, well, Matt, well, he must be like super lame. And they're like, yeah, yeah, he's super lame. He's like, he's immortal. He rides a motorbike. He has a leather jacket.

He loves rock and roll music. Checks love him. Actually, can I hear a little bit more? No, no, you can't hear anymore. We're writing him out of the book. We're going to write him out of the book. Don't even worry about him anymore. He comes at the end.

and you won't have to worry about the end because you're saved, right? Because you believe in the good guy. They had to almost talk about him so little to make it even less enticing for people. Well, it's funny you mention that it's enticing because I guess that's something. I guess I maybe had the concept in my mind around that he's the opposite, that he's evil, represents something to do with the devil. Yeah. Yeah, because he's not the devil.

That's a whole different dude. Yeah, he's not the devil. Is the Antichrist the devil's Jesus, the same? with the... Yeah, it's kind of the sun. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

I need to brush up on my lore. But it's interesting you say about it being enticing, because it's kind of the biggest feature of the Antichrist is that he's kind of a false idol. The idea would be that it's not like... It's some... It's not like the most evil guy ever kind of jacking off underneath a bridge, you know, selling heroin to people or something. You know, it's just technically the most evil. Right.

it's like someone that people might want to worship. Okay. And they would be in doing so, worshipping the wrong Lord. Got it, got it makes sense. That's why it's the Antichrist. It's Christ-like, but the wrong direction. Yeah.

So, you know, people will want to worship him. But yeah, that's kind of the weird kind of friggin Buddhist thing about it, is that he has existed since the first century. And I'm saying he goes, and so he. and then they kind of repeatedly appear through society and history over the years, which is why you can look up the Wikipedia page for people who've been accused of being the Antichrist. And it's a lot of people, you know, everyone from Nero to Hitler to Pope John Paul second to my barrister Greg after he burned my latte last week. But even though the Antichrist keeps returning, there is actually a final Antichrist expected to appear. Damn.

A final boss, final form. In the same way that Jesus is supposed to return. A lot of pressure on that guy. Because there's been some evil motherfuck so far. They're not even the last one. That's crazy. There is something funny about how, like, a lot of people, a lot of people have called various popes, the Antichrist.

I kind of understand how they get there, which is like, this guy's a false prophet. He says he's representing God. And he's not, you know, if you're, if you're not Catholic, you don't believe that the Pope represents God. So fair enough, they wouldn't agree with him. Do you think at the start of this whole thing, the Antichrist was like, oh, when it's time I'm going to appear and I have some crazy stuff lined up, I'm going to go around slapping people,

and I'm going to pull some guys' pants down, and I'm going to say mean things about everyone. And then, like, Hitler is born, does his global atrocities. And the Antichrist is like, I have to follow that. I have to. I was like, dude, what? He's not even the fire. final one. Like he's erasing all of his plans. He's like, oh, I got to like double this. I got to triple this.

Yeah. That's intense. I know. Yeah. I know. He's watching the damn documentary about the bikini islands. He's like, Jesus. Oh, God damn it. The Antichrist should just be like Unicron from Transformers or something. Just a kind of planet eating transformer. Right. Just get it over with. You know what I'm saying? It was Bitcoin. That was the Antichrist. You think? Kind of K, it wasn't even a person. It was just like a thing that kind of destroyed the world.

Yeah. It was just the mark of the end. So, Rory, I tell you all about the Antichrist and some of that background to the movie, because this is essentially the crux of why people would have opposed it. Because while views will differ from church to church, person to person, many, many were angry and worried about a huge. huge movie coming out depicting the Antichrist. Yeah.

And some knew that the devil or demonic forces were behind all the accidents on set. That was a general gist. That's what I'm saying is, you know, it wasn't a case of a haunting or possession. It was merely by invoking the devil, by invoking the Antichrist, demonic forces of the Bible. And, you know, let's face it, depicting the symbolism, the six, six, six, the number of the beast, all this evil shit. that you were inviting chaos. It's kind of a bit of a catch-22 though, isn't it? Because these people are worried about, you know,

these group of filmmakers romanticizing the devil and the Antichrist. But then the Antichrist is like, I'm going to kill all of you for making this. So it's like, okay, well, what do you want then? Do you want us to make the movie where we're bigging you up? Or do you want to kill us for trying to make the movie about you at all? You know? Maybe best to just steer clear.

So you're saying it's just, it's kind of a self-correcting thing. You know, if anyone goes too far wrong, they're just going to get like Pac-Man. It's kind of like, well, I remember when we were growing up on the, up on the north coast of Ireland, and, you know, actually very similar. We come from what I would lovingly refer to as a place of religious nut jobs. and I remember when we locally put on Jesus Christ Superstar as a local musical at the fantastic Riverside Theater and there were just hordes of people showing up to protest. Really? Okay, I missed it. To be like you are blasphemers.

You are going to hell. You're taking the word of the Lord or you're turning it into a musical performance. And I'm like, yeah, but this is kind of one of the dopest ways. to retell the events of the Bible that's actually pretty welcoming and inclusive to people who haven't heard the story before. People might actually be inspired to come and learn more through the medium of a musical.

Yeah. And then also hilariously, I do remember on one of the nights at the end when... Isn't it the end of that musical where Judas tries to like hang himself? Or who hangs himself? I don't remember.

I don't remember. One of the disciples. Gotta be Judas. Come on. One of the kids accidentally hung himself. Did you hear about this? It was supposed to be like a trick noose and it was there was no trick. And he just got hung on the last night.

Didn't die. I need to say that right now. That would be way darker story if the kid died. But he just was like hanging there and people were like, he's really selling it on stage. And apparently he was like, no, it couldn't breathe. I was like being hung from a noose. So a lot of similarities there actually.

So maybe directors aren't evil. Shit just goes wrong. Yeah, very true. Sometimes it helps the production. Anyway, it should be said, it wasn't just the religious crowd who believed there was an issue that the thing was cursed. Over time, the beliefs spread to the cast and crew. One of the stars, Lee Remick, refused to do one of the pre-agreed stunts for fear of, quote, tempting fate. And one of the producers, Harvey Bernard, obsessively wore crucifix on set, stating, quote,

The Devil was at work and he didn't want that film made. Wow. That's pretty cool. That's one of the funniest things about making movies is because we're talking about why when they're so disastrous are they still allowed to get made? I think the reality is they're such like a jobs engine. Right.

They generate so much money. So many people's livelihoods revolve around the thing getting made that when things start going wrong, you got to push through. Yeah, yeah. It's like, dude, the movie Rust, where that per woman died tragically, shot, they released the movie. Yeah. It's like, no one wants to watch the movie,

but they're like, we literally have to. So much money has been. Burn $150 million. Yeah, exactly. So that's what's funny about this. It's like, the producer being like, fuck me, the devil doesn't want this made. We're all going to hell for making this.

Stop making it. No, I can't. Borrow too much money. You have to finish it, in it? It's like, well, we're going to go to hell. Let's stop now. He's like, just throwing across. It'll be fine.

If we continue our souls, we'll be damned and scattered to the corners of the greatest depths of hell. Lights! No, no! We're not doing this. F*** this movie's so f***ed up. This is just crazy. Bring out the little boy. Bring out the little boy for the anvil scene.

Have them stand under the anvil. We just can't tempt fate. We're dancing with the devil and we need to learn how. a tango. Release the dogs! No! Time for the dog fight scene!

Can we get some more asbestos in here? We're running out of asbestos. Where's the animal trainer? Sir, he was eaten earlier this morning. Very well. Release them anyway. Great. We're saving a bunch of money on him. Well, now we know they won't be hungry.

Release the dogs. And while at this point some of the disasters or mishaps I've mentioned could be put down to chance, undoubtedly some of the events during the making of the omen were just too weird. One stuntman, Alf Joist, fell off of a building and missed the airbags below. When he woke up in hospital, he said it felt like he'd been pushed. Whoa. And when his friends came to visit him in hospital, they noticed something uncanned. Phil, play the first video.

Our very first day's filming, Elf gets shot, standing on the rooftop, and he has to fall off the rooftop into the airbags. And the airbags on the ground must have been about 40 feet down. Right in the middle of the tape, when we were doing it, he sort of fell off rather strangely and awkwardly. Missed the airbag and injured himself quite badly and ended up in hospital. He knew exactly where to fall and everything else, but somehow he just landed in between the airbags. He said he felt as though he was pushed, but there was nobody near him at the time. He was completely up there on his own. Couldn't understand it. Well-known stuntman, been in the business many years,

and the airbags were quite big, but some extraordinary reason he fell in between them. Nobody can explain why. The slightly weird thing to us who had been on the omen was that the only one was that the that Alf was lying in hospital in exactly the same way that he was when he was doubling Lee Remick. So he had the same arm in a cast and the same tubes up his nose and everything. And there was a very sort of spooky similarity. Jump scare. Roy, he felt two, actually a couple cool elements to that.

Had the accident, that's one thing that's a little bit like, oh, the curse can, continues. Sure. Said he felt like he'd been pushed and then thrice. He was put in a hospital bed, same broken arm and same tube up the nostril as the character he was standing in for in the omen. Yeah. Pretty interesting.

I think the tube up the nose thing is pretty standard. Like that's just tube up by the right nostril. Yeah, but come on. But he was put in, you don't automatically get admitted to hospital and they put a tube up your nose. That's true. That's true. I mean, if you fell as hard as this guy sounds like he did. Fell off a fucking building.

Oh my God. How do you miss the mat? Because he was pushed. That's well, I don't know. By a ghost. Sorry. By a demon. How far did he push him? That's crazy. Yeah. Damn, that is wild. Poor son of a bitch. I think that one's pretty crazy.

And yet, it might not be the craziest and most uncanny accident that took place regarding the omen. probably the most shocking thing to take place occurred one year after the Omen was shot. The special effects designer on the movie John Richardson was driving late one evening in the Netherlands. He was with his assistant, Liz Moore. The pair were in the country working on their next feature. Just then, the car was involved in a head-on collision. Liz was killed instantly when a piece of flying debris decapitated her in the passenger seat. Oh my God!

No, that is what... This is a comedy show! This is supposed to be... This is supposed to be a little funny little break from people's hard lives. Hey, hey, hey, hey, in my defense, I've been laughing at everyone's death in this so far. So... God! Not really.

Hey, now, Rory, it might not mean a ton to you if you haven't seen The Omen or he's not seen it in recent memory. But no one could believe just how similar her death was to David Warner's character in the Omen. It's a huge moment in the film. He plays Keith Jennings, a photographer who is beheaded in an iconic special effects sequence towards the end of the film. A sequence designed by John Richardson who was driving the car. Phil, I think we do have a photo of just that still frame from the movie, from the movie. Look at those special effects. Wow.

Yeah, that's great. Clearly. How was he beheaded in the movie? Not real life. I believe he's like kneeling in the sand trying to dig for something. there, and then a truck carrying sheets of glass. Of course. Oh yeah, yeah, it's kind of comedic.

Yeah, the truck was carrying sheets of glass is on a hill. The guy doesn't put the handbrake on the car. He gets out of the truck and then it rolls back down the hill, stops, hits something, and then a sheet of glass beheads him. Wow. What a way to go. You have to admit, that's twisted and it's uncanny that the guy who designed this scene was involved in a beheading accident.

And then when Richardson crawled out from the wreckage of the totaled car, wait for it guys, holy shit, covered in blood, the first thing he spotted was a road sign, a sign with the name of a Dutch town and the distance to it in kilometers. It said, Omen, 66.6 kilometers. Away! What? There's no way. Omen! Spelled with two M's instead of one.

What? what? I know part of me is like do they really put 0.6 on the kilometer yeah there's there's no allegedly allegedly is a famous story

it's a famous story oh I forgot on the date Friday the 13th of August 1976 now you're just throwing shit on now you're just throwing shit on Phil don't don't Google shit Phil's Google shit

no there's never ever been a sign that says 66.6 kilometers to Oman. F*** it, Phil, Google it. That's too. I don't know. That's the story. The guy claims he says, the sign said Omen, and he said, I think, quote, the sign had nothing but sixes on it for the distance.

My man. My man, Phil. And that is not AI, guys. That's a fake ass sign. Look at that. It's on a wooden post. Hey, look, that's the sign. That's the sign. You just found the sign.

That's the sign. You don't even know what it existed. You went, that's the one. I spoke it into reality. I said what it was. I said it existed. And look, hey, hey. That doesn't, that's not real.

That's a real sign. No sign looks like that or says 66.6. Why would the guys say it? Why would that be the story and the guys say it? I don't know. I don't know what, like, what do you want me to do? I said the story is true and you're like, show me a photo. Then we show you a photo.

You're like, that's not real. That's not a real photo. Oh, this is so dark. You got to admit that's pretty dope. No, it's certainly not dope. Sorry. That's great. You need to change your language about how we're speaking about this case.

It's crazy and cursed and weird. Yeah. Hey, look, if that doesn't convince you, I have a whole section of backup stories here that's just titled The Ra. Okay. About crazy incidences that happen with the IRA at the time. How could that also be related to the only? The producers of the director and the actors, the movie survived like two IRA bombs.

Like they got bombed out a couple times. Damn. All right, Rory. I'm feeling a lot of cynicism from this corner. I need a couple of cigarettes. Yeah, I'm sure you do after all those hard-hitting evidence. I suppose I'll try and give some space to probably where Rory's heads are and where some people's heads would be at.

It's worth mentioning. Part of the reason that movies come up on the show, cursed movie productions, is that they do involve hundreds or even thousands of people. They are shot over long periods. They're incredibly complicated. it and it would be weird in some ways if things didn't go wrong. Sure. And so for us, what we need to, you know, feel out is, is it a truly inordinate amount of things?

Or are the things too uncanny or strange and seemingly connected that it veers into curse territory? This is a problem we do regularly have with curse episodes in general. They are, that kind of definition of a curse investigation is a bunch of bad things that happen that you're trying to string together. Right, right, right. It's cause and effect, you know, or no, chicken or egg. Well, you're right, yeah. Is it cause and effect or is it just, yeah. As they say, correlation does not necessarily equal causation. Sure, sure, sure. And there's obviously links to the bad things that are happening here. If there's a decapitation in a movie and then someone is decapitated, sure.

The IRA bombing someone is maybe less linked to the appearance of the Antichrist. But who knows? And then it's also probably worth mentioning, if I have to be intellectually honest, which I don't like being, but if I'm supposed to be, the curse of the omen was kind of already a part of the movies lower before it hit cinemas. It might be argued that the rumor was exaggerated and exploited, if not straight up fabricated, to sell tickets. Nothing promotes a movie quite like controversy,

and it wouldn't be the first or last time publicist and marketing teams amplified scandals to sell movies. Look, obviously it's not fabricated because these insane things actually happened. Yeah. But yeah, I suppose there's a nugget of a good question in there, which is, did they fabricate the narrative around the curse? Oh, as soon as that guy was killed by dogs, someone had dollar signs in their eyes. Yeah. Hello. Cursed movie production about the devil. Yeah, we're going to do pretty well. Yeah. It would be interesting to know from like a Hollywood historian, though,

is like it feels very early in Hollywood for that approach. Yeah. And I'm sure that's me being naive, but this is 50 years ago. You know, like in today's day and age, we're very cynical about this kind of strategy. But in the mid-70s, it's like, really? Were they that savvy that they would? Maybe. I guess.

Yeah. I don't know. There's always been angles, right? that people say, like, oh, a movie is cursed, so you got to go see it. Oh, a movie was so sick that everyone walked out of the screenings, you got to go see it. Or even, you know, modern days, it'll be like, oh, the stars of this movie are dating now. Oh, and it's like scandalous. That's the one that's so boring.

It's so stupid. So, yeah, yeah, it's kind of adapted over the times. But for a horror movie, to sell the idea that your movie is so effed up that the actual production was cursed, that's a strong sell. Yeah. And I think I probably could argue that it's too early for that kind of carry on. If it weren't, what did I say? Maybe like six or eight years or whatever it was after Rosemary's Baby.

Right. They've done this before. And I don't know whether Rosemary's Baby was a commercial success. But it could have been that they saw the furor around that movie and saw they wanted to replicate that kind of drama. Yeah. It's certainly possible. But look, Roy, at the end of every episode of this paranormal life, we do have to make a decision as to whether we think the case is really paranormal or not.

We've gone through a litany of... I do genuinely think this is one of the... Especially when we compare it to something like The Wizard of Oz, which was just so negligent. I think the stuff in this is mostly out of the production's hands. What's going wrong? I think there's a lot more acts of God involved here, whether that be the lightning striking,

a terrible car crash. There's stuff that's not related to the production itself. Sure. So you could argue that it's chance, but I don't think we can argue just total negligence here. So I think this is some of the craziest stuff ever to happen in a cursed movie production. Do you think this strays over into a genuinely cursed movie?

Well, it's definitely one of the grislyest episodes of this paranormal life. Yeah, good Lord. You're welcome. I mean, we've- hilarious, I know. No, not grateful for that. At one point, I actually was in real fear

that you were going to show me a picture of a decapitated person. I'm sorry if anyone was eating their tea for this one. When Kit jumped that one on you. Listen, you say that a lot of this was out of the hands of the individuals, but was it really? It sounds like there might have been badly trained dogs. I'm about to stop listening. Go on. It sounded like someone crashed a car. That is literally in humans' control. By definition.

But not the production of control. And then what were the elements of the production that went so wrong? Again, the baboons went wild. You literally threw a kid into the monkey cage. That's a bad idea. Okay. And then the only one is the stunt man falling off the roof and missing the mat. It's kind of the coolest one.

That is probably the coolest one and the most convincing one, especially if he says he was pushed by an invisible force. Because sometimes I say that things that happen in an investigation are quite filmic cinematic. That's definitely, in a movie about a curse, that's a really good one. Because the ambiguity is so beautiful of like, Oh, it's a terrible accident. He's like, I swear, I swear I was pushed. I've been in this industry 20 years. I know if I fell off that roof. Sounds like a stuntman also trying desperately to keep his job. He's like, hey, I would have, you know me, I would have hit that thing if it was any other

situation. That's my one thing I'm built to do is fall off a roof and not get hurt. And I fell off the roof and got hurt and that's because a ghost shoved me. Mr. Seneca over here. Jeez. This guy's like a Hollywood exec. He looks like a Hollywood exec. in his damn suit. It feels like they're trying to get their insurance claim and they're like sets haunted I'm like,

fuck off. It's obviously not. You're just really bad at running a company. I don't know. Maybe because I haven't seen the film. I feel like maybe I'm not in the position to be as convinced. I don't know how evil this movie really is

because I've never seen it before. But based off the events, I don't know, this just sounds like one of the tragic beats in Hollywood history, which we've said are many. There's a lot of grisly stuff that's happened on sets. And sometimes it's just horrible accidents. Sometimes it does spill into rumors of a set being haunted.

But is the paranormal being brought to this case today? Mostly because of the film, the contents of the film. Yeah, look, I'm happy to lead. I think this is one of the strongest cursed movie cases. I think the events are wild. I think some of them are incredibly grizzly and in your face. And if you do see the film, the film is, it is dark, it is disturbing. The themes are heavy and it's mad that the stuff happening that we're talking about is only as grisly as the contents of the movie itself, which is kind of wild.

Weirdly, for where it breaks down for me is, you know, we're always looking for a curse motive and why would something be cursed in the first place. Which is actually just, everyone's different. I'm not religious. like I'm open to the world of paranormal but actually weirdly the bit that I can't connect with is the idea that Satan

right is cursing the production right if we get into the nitty gritty of it which is because why the production could be cursed and that could be for other reasons that we don't know about but the leading theory is that they've invoked Satan

sure and the legion of demons from hell that is not something I believe in the physical reality of or even a paranormal reality of. I'd like to think I'm open to the whole world of the paranormal. But I kind of like the religious people I was talking about earlier, I've always interpreted those religious texts as metaphor. Right, right. Not as literal, which I think is the predominant belief of Christians in the world today.

I don't think most of them believe in a guy with horns. So, yeah, so that kind of reasoning breaks down for me. I'm getting too deep in the woods for what it's just ultimately. But I think it's, I think that's interesting. Because there is a slight, this is paranormal. A curse is paranormal. But there's always that little fine line between religion and paranormal. Which does go hand in hand.

It goes, it's like the same and different and, you know, because we were talking on a recent after party, super recently, about the Catholic Church and the Pope just had a meeting of like a council of exorcists. Yeah, yeah. That is religious. And it's paranormal together. So it does happen sometimes. Anywho, it's a no for me.

It's a no from me also this week. And Kit just said he doesn't believe in Jesus. And you know this podcast is getting played to him at the pearly gates. No, I. St. Peter's like, we're just going to let, what's this little clip right here? And it's just a clip of this podcast where Kit's like, religion's bullshit. Because there are a lot of people who don't believe in Jesus. And I mean don't believe in the

That he existed Right And I'm kind of a stickler for that I'm like well I'm not religious But he was real He's a historical figure Right right And I did

He's gonna turn you to soup When you get up there It's gonna be the first thing he does He's like look I believe he's real I just don't I don't think he's magic Yeah French onion

He's gonna turn you to a croissant Turn you to spiders Send you to hell You're like The spider thing Would have been bad enough If I was in heaven But a spider

It's like not enough to hell also. Guys, thank you so much. I hope you enjoyed that investigation. Maybe you're due a rewatch of The Omen. I could barely handle it. I am a B word when it comes to watching movies. I can barely handle any horror movies, even ones from 1976.

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Thank you to Pierre. Pierre. Pierre has actually been suffering from a little bit of a movie-related curse of his own lately because it's actually nothing to do with a horror movie. He just watched Star Wars episode one, two, and three, and became so depressed. You know, God awful those movies were. He was like, what's the point of going on? And his whole life has been kind of just a cloud of malaise ever since. Oh, that's, there's just a movie.

There's a bunch of other good ones. No, he wouldn't take it. do it in order. So he started. Oh no. Yeah. And then he was like, what? So like, everyone's obsessed to Star Wars and it's this bad. People are idiots. Pierre, it gets way better. Stick with it. It's great. It gets better. It gets better. Life and the Star Wars franchise. Thank you so much. Thank you also to Molly Stone Nelson. Mollie's part of a exclusive cult. You've heard of the Stone Masons. They are an individual. They're a member of the Stone Nelsons. you know which is like a whole different organization

where everyone just goes to the beach and picks up the coolest rocks they can find and then at the meetings later just shows everyone they're rocks and just like check out what I got today see I got thrown by what seemed to me like a lot of wrestling references I'm kind of scared of Molly on that basis

it's like stone cold full Nelson yeah what's Molly oh my god who knows I don't want to find out But I would like to become a member of the Stone Nelson, please. Thank you also to Margot Tatum. Margo's actually been helping us out in the commune. We know food has been a little bit sparse recently.

So Margo actually invented a new type of vegetable called the potato. Legally not a potato. There's a huge distinction. Yeah, that's okay. Is it, at least as equally nutritious? This one takes calories from your body. Right. It takes it from you.

It's like celery. they say like it takes more calories to eat than it gives you. Yeah, and a potato, it actually, the best thing it does for us is, let's just say it makes it so there's less mouths to feed. So some of you are lucky enough to be gifted a potato and I recommend you eat it. No, don't. Make peace with your loved ones and eat it. Okay, well that's a little on the notes. Because potatoes a lot like uranium or something.

Potanium. Thank you also too, friend frog. Friend, frog, it's like you spawned out of nowhere. But let me hop right in and say that I find you riveting. Eat your potato. Also eat your potatoe right now. You're really going to like it. Frogs aren't exempt.

Frogs aren't exempt. When I said mouths to feed, I meant animal mouths, human mouths, everything. Everyone needs to eat the potato that's been gifted. I want to be welcoming, but I do feel like frogs are one of the ones. those animals is like, if we let one in, isn't there, I don't know how they reproduce, let's say. Asexually, I believe. Yes, see, that's the problem. Because then is it like we blink and there's going to be 16 million of them?

Because isn't that the plot of Jurassic Park is that they splice the dinosaur DNA with some frog DNA, and frogs can either reproduce asexually or change gender. So that's why there were dinosaur eggs on the island. They were like, yeah. Frogs are in cells. That's crazy I don't know where you got that one from Because they don't need to do it

Well this is a friendly frog So they're doing fine I'd like to hope Thank you also to Sophie Batten Sophie's been batting away that potato Try trying to make sure She doesn't have to eat it It's going down one way

Are you dangling it on a fishing rod Why is she batting it? Sophie you ever heard of a spud gun Just open wide and I'll fire it in like a tick-tac And it'll be over before you know it The potatoe will be over before you know it. Dark. Nothing else will be over before you know it.

Sophie, it's time to go free. It is. And thank you finally today to Robert. The existence of Robert, no surname, is disturbing, because it suggests that maybe Robert the doll is human now? I don't know. I don't want to jump to conclusions. You know?

But weirdly, they did include their height, along with their information on their Patreon. count one foot six. That is scary. That is actually quite terrifying. I mean, at least Robert the doll is on our side. I do appreciate that. Thank you, Robert, for the support. You've killed many, many people over the years, so hopefully you got a bit of that money, you know, picking some wallets. So, you know, I'm happy that you're sending it our way. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Robert, for being a supporter of this paranormal life. We could not do it without you. Thank you for tuning in this week. Hope you enjoyed this investigation. We've got some doozies coming up for you

next Tuesday. But we're back before that, of course, on Friday with the after party over at this paranormal life.com where you can get those exclusive episodes. And we had a recent bonus episode. You can go check that out too if you've run out of stuff to listen to a groundbreaking piece of research into a laughter disease that took over a small town in Africa. I'm not joking. It's fascinating. Check it out. And until then, Remember to live fast, investigate and die young baby. All right, good luck everyone. Good luck out there.

It's the Mids. Couldn't find out where the camera was there. Okay. I was looking at the fucking coffee machine. What's up?