This Past Weekend - #569 - Andrew Schulz

Starting point is 00:00:00 I have some tour dates to tell you about we'll be coming to college station, Texas, Belton, Texas, Oxford, Mississippi, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Chicago, and Miami. All tickets at Theo Vaughan.com slash T-O-U-R. Make sure to not go to any secondhand site. Just go through the links at Theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Today's guest is a stand-up comedian. He's a podcaster. He has a new special called Life on Netflix.

Starting point is 00:00:33 It is miraculously done. I'm very thankful to have him return to the podcast. Today's guest is Mr. Andrew Shultz. Good to see you, man. Good to see you, too. Congratulations on the child. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that.

Starting point is 00:01:06 Congratulations on all your success. Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. I saw, I'm like 17 minutes in a year special right now. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool. So, dude, the control you have on stage is that that's something I really admire, like this, like, it's almost like a sharpshooter up there. Okay. There's something, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:01:28 But the way you have this control on stage is something, it's great. Thank you, man. I appreciate that, brother. Yeah, it's cool, man. How many times do you guys shoot twice? We did four shows. Yeah, two a night. That venue is so beautiful.

Starting point is 00:01:40 It shot so well. Who shot it? Thank you. So I have my guys do it. like Shifty, Shifty edited. I'm messing. I forget the guys

Starting point is 00:01:47 who's the DP. And then Troy Miller was the director. And, yeah, it's tricky. Like, filming stand-up is so tricky. Especially when you do these, you know, we're used to just kind of doing it all ourselves,

Starting point is 00:01:59 so then you go do a special. Yeah. And you kind of realize that, like, each department is fighting against one another. Like, the video department wants to make it look beautiful. But making it look beautiful might make the audio sound

Starting point is 00:02:14 sound bad. The audio department wants to make it sound beautiful. What makes it sound beautiful might mean your mic is really low in the room, so now the show could be shitty for the audience. You know what I mean? So there's like all these, like we had speakers. I don't know if you know it's like in the front. Like usually a lot of times people don't tell you had your foot up on it. Yeah. And like most people don't do that because the shot is more beautiful if you just have like raw stage. But I was like, I think that the special would be better if the audience enjoys it the most. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:44 You know what I mean? Like that's how I agree with that. Yeah. Because if they have fun, you have fun. Exactly. I was like, there was one, there was one. I think it was like show one. And there was like miscommunication or something.

Starting point is 00:02:54 The camera guy was a really sweet guy. But like, he thought it was his job to just keep walking down the aisle and back up the aisle with the camera. And I'm like, bro, they got to believe that this is kind of just happening. And when you walk in front of them with a camera, the illusion kind of falls apart, right? They feel like they're part of a filming instead of like just part of their show. show. So, yeah, that's the tricky. I wish I didn't even have to tell them we were filming. Yeah. Ah. You know what I mean? Like, I... Right. Just make it be a regular show. This is just a show. So if you guys yell out or do something, this is as natural as it could possibly be.

Starting point is 00:03:24 Wonder if you could have probably could have done that in hindsight. Yeah. I mean, earlier ones I was able to do that, but I think this one, I don't know, this one, maybe I was like nervous. I was like, fuck, I really want to make sure that we could, you know, fill that place four times. And, you know, I don't know. Huge venue. It's beautiful. What is that? Yeah, it's the beacon in New York. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty. Yeah, dude, this looks, I mean, I thought I was like, this is unbelievable looking.

Starting point is 00:03:48 Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, you guys crushed it. Even the font that they chose for Andrew Schultz's life, I thought was perfect. There was just a lot of great choices, I thought. Yeah, the first, the Netflix special, you know, the first thing that comes up on a black screen, that's actually my wife's handwriting.

Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. She wasn't aware that that's what it was, but it was a, because I don't know how far you are in the special. yet, but most of it is this like journey of us trying to get pregnant. Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm, I'm at to like, let me think, oh, after you saw the baby, but it's, you haven't gone through the journey about getting pregnant, it's just the actual seeing the child, I guess.

Starting point is 00:04:25 The C-section, the story, and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude is incredible. Congrats, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, good to see you, man. Unbelievable, bro. Unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:04:35 It's freaking been a while, dude. You've been caught up in some beef. You were in the fucking rat beef. I was like, this dude, I thought you were going to pop out at Super Bowl. You know I was supposed to go to the Super Bowl. I was supposed to be part of the show. I was like, how wild is this shit going to get? No, I know.

Starting point is 00:04:50 We were going to go, actually. How about you? You were there, right? No, I didn't go, man. Me and David Spades started making that movie, and so we had to shoot that. How's that going? It's interesting, man. It's done.

Starting point is 00:05:00 Do you like, because I remember, like, years ago when we were doing the pod, there was a, you know, hopefully you don't feel bad about me, Sharon, but you had some frustration with, like, not being able to create these projects. Do you remember us having these kinds of? conversations where you really wanted to make a TV show and didn't feel like those doors were open. And now you're making this movie, you know, on your top of the world, it must feel pretty cool. Well, I think we just did it ourselves. Nobody wanted to make it. We took it out. We took it to the streamers and we... Oh, you created your own movie? Yeah. You filmed it before even... No, no, no, we pitched it to them? We pitched it first. Okay. Right. So we pitched it and nobody...

Starting point is 00:05:33 No way. Oh, dude, we couldn't get... And it was Spade, you know? I'm like... Even with you and Spade at this point in your career, there was still hesitation. I just felt like it would have been nice to feel some support there, you know? Yeah. Like it just would have been like, hey, look, just even as a good faith thing, we'll do that, you know, something. Also, you probably got PTSD, too, from like years of wanting to do these things and not really feeling it. That's true. And then, like, now you're at this point where on top of the world.

Starting point is 00:05:59 You're like, all right, now everybody's going to give me the opportunity and then to still feel that. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, but then I realize it's just how it. It's just life. Yeah, I think, I didn't feel like, I don't know if I felt on top. I felt like this was a brave thing we're trying to do. It was a new thing I was learning But I felt like with Spade

Starting point is 00:06:16 It kind of was gonna be okay Because kind of no brainer Right he knows what he's doing That's the other thing is like giving us money To make a movie Like we're kind of knuckleheads It's kind of a bad idea Yeah it is like

Starting point is 00:06:26 Like to us it's a great idea We're like we'll figure it out They're like have you done this before And I'm like nah but it's just It's a movie right It can't be that hard right But a guy like Spade He's done it before

Starting point is 00:06:36 You know he'll fucking know He'll have the camera in his trunk of his car It's easy We gotta all figured out So yeah, why do we have that attitude? Like we want to make a movie and it costs $30 million and we're like, these fucking assholes, how dare they not give us $30 million even though we've proven we could do nothing? What is that about?

Starting point is 00:06:57 That's a great point. That's kind of on us a little bit. Oh, totally. Is that narcissism? Is it ego? Well, I think I would never think give me dirt. I would, like, if they even try to do something like that, I'd like this is insane. But I think what I realized in it was, I just.

Starting point is 00:07:11 just want to do something if I can do it by myself, whether it's win or lose, it's like, I'd rather make it something small. And then, and even if some, like, was like, hey, come do it with us or some studio, I don't want to do that. It's like, I just want to do something that it's like, okay, will people like this? Will they believe that I tried my best? Like, even if it's not that good, it's like, that's okay. I can just tell people that go to see it in advance.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Hey, I'm not going to be that great in it, but it'll be a cool movie. Yeah. You know, like, I just don't want to lie to it. It's just like, as long as this is this is transparent. then I think it's fine. I think people admire those that take risks. I think that's almost like an American thing in general. We like risk takers.

Starting point is 00:07:49 We like people who are brave. And I wonder if it's baked in our DNA a little bit. Like our family members that left their families around the world to never see them again for like maybe an opportunity here. Right. Like I think that we're probably, we have like the DNA of the biggest risk takers on the planet. Yeah, like Christopher Columbus, dude. Like what about his sister or whatever? Shit, boring bitch.

Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. She just got left. and fucking wherever. He'll probably live a way better life. She's not learning Native American. She's just chilling. She's out of here lying to Indians for lunch. Just shows up.

Starting point is 00:08:23 What do you mean? There's no gold. But dude, you had it. Imagine taking off in a boat. People are like, where are you head? You're like, I don't fucking are you trying to be cool, right? Because it's like your last day on the docks or whatever. You're like, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:08:34 We'll figure it out when we get out there. You've got to be selling a dream, though. You're like, no, no, no, trust me. That's true. Trust me. It's crazy. Oh. Yeah, they got everything.

Starting point is 00:08:44 Women that you get out there. I heard they get a couple miles out there. There's just a lot of women out there. They got them on the way. You don't even have to make it the whole way. They got stops. Yeah, it is. So anyway, so I think, I think, like, naturally, you know, you get a lot of success.

Starting point is 00:09:00 There are going to be people that enjoy seeing you fail or whatever it is. But unfortunately, I guess human beings, we got that in us a little bit. But I do also feel like the people that ride for you appreciate. the risk that you'd be taken. Yeah. I do think all of us is comedians, I think they do. I think that's one of the reasons why comedians and podcasts and maybe does well is because,

Starting point is 00:09:21 well, for one, I think we try to, I don't know, this sounds fucking ego maniacal. I have no idea. Say it, say it, say it. But no, I heard somebody say that, like a lot of podcasts, they're just trying to figure out the truth. They just, they're not, like, we don't work for anybody. So it's like, if you ask somebody a question,

Starting point is 00:09:37 it's just because you want to know. Yeah. It's not because, like, there's a producer saying, Let's get this answer. Yeah, curiosity's kind of punished in a way. But maybe it's because they'll put us on such a pedestal. They're like, you should know the answer to these things. It's like, well, I don't.

Starting point is 00:09:51 And that's why this guy's here, because I'm trying to figure out the answer to it. And I just want to know their take. Right. I might not even be able to communicate that well of rebuttal or grill them that well, but I just want to like. I don't want to grill them. Right. I want to know what they think. And then I'll bring somebody else who thinks something different.

Starting point is 00:10:05 And I'll ask him that. And but yeah, that is, I guess, maybe some criticism is like, well, why did you ask, why didn't you ask this question or why didn't you rebuke that? And it's like, bro, I don't know. I don't know anything just yet. Yeah, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a politician. Like, I got in this own trap of just because of last year,

Starting point is 00:10:21 we got to have some political people on the podcast. And I was like, dude, there was like a month ago I started thinking like, oh, I'm a political guy, right? Right. Did you feel like you had to be informed? Were you like reading Wall Street girdling? I know. I just like, I thought like, because here was a crazy thing.

Starting point is 00:10:38 People started coming up to me. A political guy. Yeah, dude. Well, people would come up to me and ask him about political shit. I was like... Like asking your take? Yeah, dude. I was like, I don't fucking know.

Starting point is 00:10:49 I don't know, dude. Like, you know, or like... But then I started to realize, wow, people's perceptions are affected, like, how they see people, where they see them at and stuff. And then I was like, well, I do have some political thoughts. Like, most of them are just kind of regular people's kind of thoughts and ideas. Like, they're not super in depth. But, yeah, I think for like a week, I started smoking my own nuts and thinking I was like, fucking... a J. Edgar Hoover or somebody, you know.

Starting point is 00:11:14 I actually think that like whatever your perception of your feelings are about something, that's actually more valuable than what the like factual truth is. Oh, yeah. Because most people aren't reading up on the factual truth. Right. Like you got to meet people where they are emotionally. That's a good point.

Starting point is 00:11:28 And the people are trusting their gut. So I think, yeah, when you do just talk to somebody and you don't let the people, let people decide, well, do I think like I believe that guy? Do I, you know, and then they get to decide. And you might hate what that person says, but don't dismiss him because there might be a lot of people

Starting point is 00:11:44 they feel that same way. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of people, like, I've heard people say this a lot. They go, you know, the economy actually wasn't that bad under Biden or whatever it is. The economy, and it's like, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.

Starting point is 00:11:57 You can't tell somebody who feels the economy is bad that it's not bad. That's a good point. Right? Like, if they feel like the eggs are expensive, that's what they feel. It's like, I would say this.

Starting point is 00:12:08 If I get into an argument with my wife, like I do something. piss her off. And, um, like, she doesn't want me to explain to her why she shouldn't be upset. Right? Like, that never works. Right. Like, I know you're upset, but you shouldn't be because of these reasons. She said, fuck you. She just wants me to be like, hey, my bad. I'm sorry. I made you feel that way. And I feel like our whole political discourse, and I don't know anything about politics, but I feel like the whole political discourse is just like, you're wrong because. And then the other side's going, you're wrong because. And then it's just show set up to

Starting point is 00:12:38 dunk on one another. Like, there's no good faith. conversation. And the second we're out here having like a good faith conversation, like we bring somebody on and we're just like, all right, so what do you feel about the world? People go to us like, you fucking asshole. How dare you not dunk on that guy? Like, how dare you not humiliate him on your podcast so I can feel good at home? It's crazy, right? Yeah, yeah. And you can't win. Like, we had like Candace Owens and Hassan Piker. They're like different sides of the aisle last week. You had, like, Brogan had Ian Carroll and you had Candace on like. And you had Candice on like, I think the same day.

Starting point is 00:13:11 It was a tough, tough week for Israel. Jews stayed inside. Jews went to the tunnels. They're like, we're, everybody into the tunnels. Put the mattresses back in, son.

Starting point is 00:13:24 We got to figure, we got to regroup. But dude, I didn't fucking, I thought, well, somebody from the left and somebody from the right, right?

Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah. Oh, bro. Sorry to go. Yeah, I had no, I was just like, okay, let's hear some different thoughts

Starting point is 00:13:36 and different opinions or whatever. That's the other thing. I realized, like, I think it was after the last, special, right? I was like, okay, you know what? I'm going to kind of chill. Like, I want to spend time with my family, my friends. Like, I, like, I'm not going to go out and do as many, like, pods and stuff like that. You know, I got a lot of work that I'm doing at home. And, uh, and I don't

Starting point is 00:13:54 know what, like, I'm not saying I'm famous, but I don't know what the fuck like it is to be famous. Like, I never wanted to be famous. Like, I knew that that might have been like a byproduct of having success in comedy, but it wasn't like, I never like studied being famous. Like, I didn't give a fuck about like how to be a famous person. Does that make sense? Like, we, I mean, well, who knew that podcast? would have such would be and clips of podcasts would get out so much.

Starting point is 00:14:14 It would be huge, right? Yeah. So like, I remember I was like, okay, I'm not, I'm just gonna chill. I'm like, I'm not gonna be doing as many pods, et cetera. And that's the thing that I realized, like having different voices on your pod

Starting point is 00:14:25 doesn't really do anything for your, for the people's perception of you that aren't your fans. Wait, say it one more time so I hear it. So like, so we probably, I don't want to put words in your mouth,

Starting point is 00:14:35 but like, we probably think, like, I'm gonna have different voices on my podcast. And like, one, I'm curious and I want to know what they think, but two, I want to also, like, let the people out there in the world know, like, I care about hearing from different people. Yeah. And I care about having diversity of thought on my podcast, right? The people that don't know you, the casuals, are just judging you by the worst thing you've ever had on your podcast. Right. And the

Starting point is 00:14:57 worst thing you've ever said. Yeah. I didn't realize this until recently. The best way to, like, thwart those perceptions of you is not by having people on your show, because the casuals don't watch your show. It's by going to go and. to your biggest critics show and sitting down with them or not even your biggest critic but like going to somebody who might have a very different

Starting point is 00:15:18 worldview than you and then you guys sit down and realize oh shit we actually don't have that different to worldview that was all a perception anyway I think a lot of times we go okay we're really busy

Starting point is 00:15:28 it's like hard for us to go around and do different shows and that kind of stuff because I think our perception is is not going like how can I be the most famous person like I don't give a fuck I want to make the coolest stand up

Starting point is 00:15:38 that I possibly can I want to hang out with my friends and I want to talk to some shit on a podcast. Like, that's enough for me. But I've realized the importance now of going to other people's homes and having those conversations. You know, like, we had Hassan on our pod. It probably would have been more beneficial for me

Starting point is 00:15:53 to also go on his stream and talk to him and let him bring up shit that I said and, like, tell me, have him tell me, like, why I'm missing this, like, nuance point and be like, oh, that's interesting. Like, that might actually be better for the people that barely understand me or don't even know me to have, like, a more holistic, view of me and like understand who I am.

Starting point is 00:16:12 Right, to actually go into their world a little bit more. Yeah, because then you find things about me that might not come up on the pot. Yeah. Like you start asking me things about like how I feel about, you know, I don't know, whatever it is. I don't know if it's fucking like Marxism or some shit like that. And I go, yeah, maybe that actually kind of sounds good on paper. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:27 I don't know. It would be nice if there was a little bit more quality for people and people who had nothing had the ability to come up. That'd be pretty cool. A little light Marxism, yeah. Just light. Nah, you know, I mean, hey, you got to cut it with something. You need majority capitalism.

Starting point is 00:16:41 You know, it's like a cappuccino. You know what I mean? You can't have, we're not taking espresso shots of Marxism. You know what I mean? It's just, we like capitalism. Yeah, just a fucking latte. Just yeah, half-calf. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, yeah. Damn, dude. Yeah, I don't know. It's all, it's definitely been, mainstream media just got so, like, I don't know. The whole thing has been bizarre, man. Being a part of podcasting, you know, all the, the strange little connections that are out there.

Starting point is 00:17:11 I mean, like you were saying, Gavin Newsom just started a podcast where he's having people who kind of disagree with him when he had Charlie Kirk on. I think it's a really smart thing. Which is pretty wild, you know? I think it's a really smart thing. We're talking about that at the beginning. And Dove, your producer said that, well, he felt like this was kind of Newsom's last hope, too. It's like because he was probably on the way out.

Starting point is 00:17:29 So unless he could do something to salvage that. 100%. But having a podcast and it's having people you don't agree with hang out with you for a while It's pretty brave. It's also like, that's exact word I was going to. It's like brave. You want to show bravery. And I think like not to be political, whatever, but I think in the last, again, I don't

Starting point is 00:17:46 care about politics, but like culture is interested in me. But I think in the last, you know, election with the podcast run, and I just want to say personally, I don't think that we change the election at all. I have no ego about that. That was decided way before us. Yeah. Like it made me make people feel more comfortable voicing how they were already going to But I don't think people are watching like, I'm completely flipped on this.

Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, that's insane also. Yeah. But yeah, I think that the lack of representation of Kamala and even like her constituents on the podcast run, I think it showed a lack of bravery. Yeah. The feeling was like, oh, they're scared to go have potentially tough conversations. It wasn't even going to be tough with us. I know. What are we going to grill her on?

Starting point is 00:18:33 I couldn't even think of a thing. I mean, I heard that she roller skated a lot. I wouldn't be curious about that. But it's like, other than that, it's like, I don't know what I would have talked about. But her people are going, we can't go on feel. I mean, he's just going to come with the hard-hitting questions. Like, what? Right, like, something like that is insane.

Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah. But we, don't you, don't you appreciate that? Like, as much as Gavin Newsom just seems like a plastic bag in the wind, I'm also like, brave, you're willing to sit down on something recorded. I wouldn't talk to Charlie Kirk. That motherfucker is a good arguer. I know, too. Candace, too. Candice, I always say,

Starting point is 00:19:09 Rogan said Candace is John Wick. You do not get in her fucking way. Uh-uh. Oh, she, yeah, she's definitely, uh, yeah. When you said her kid looked like Anthony Smith, I was like, you're better. I was like, you're a crazy motherfucker right here, bro. That daughter, and look, a beautiful kid,

Starting point is 00:19:27 the daughter would just like Anthony Smith. You just stop it beautiful. That's what you do. You stop and beautiful. Because you do not want Candace to get fixated, okay? Oh, yeah. You do not want her to get. fixated. The second she comes up with a Theo video, you got to hope something happens in Israel Pals.

Starting point is 00:19:42 Shift the attention. Gazuntite. I need a bucket. Bro, that was layered because you made a German as well. I brought that in. I can't believe that happened. Thank you, dude. Gazuntite is good.

Starting point is 00:19:56 I did not believe that I was going to come up. I just started with Gaza and then I was like, this won't be funny. I hope people get how layered that is. That is good. That was teamwork, though. I don't know about that. It really was, dude. What on one right there.

Starting point is 00:20:07 I said that her daughter looks a little bit like... She's beautiful. Oh, the daughter is beautiful. I think what we got to say is that Anthony Smith is a beautiful little girl. Yeah, I think that's the better way of describe it. He's a savage fighter. He's the fistic charlemagne, baby.

Starting point is 00:20:20 I think it's all the safe to say here. That I think is all the safe to say here. No, he does look mixed a little bit. Is he mixed? Anthony, yeah, he is. Mixed for what? I don't know. I think he's a lot.

Starting point is 00:20:35 You know. he's latte or whatever they call it he is but Anthony's incredible and that little and the daughter looks incredible I know she's beautiful I know she's beautiful um but shout out to Candace it's so funny how like uh

Starting point is 00:20:47 he should out to Charlemagne too I just made I made a joke one time about him um I said he was handsome he's handsome yeah he's handsome he loved that one and I don't remember what happened with it but I just thought it was I think he brought it up he was a deal on things I'm handsome like anytime

Starting point is 00:21:03 he doesn't age though Oh, dude, no, he's killing it. He's killing it. Yeah. I would like to get to me. I've never, I don't know if I've ever met him. I gotta connect you guys, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:11 You guys would have a great talk. I bet we probably would. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, I saw that they just had, uh, who did they have on there that I love? Who on Breakfast Club? Yeah. I can't remember. You know, the Candace Baldoni stuff?

Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't know if you were following that at all. I didn't get into that. I don't get into a lot of the celebrity lore. The only reason why it's interesting to me is that, you know, like, Candace has, like, been positioned in a way on the internet, right? And she existed there and people had her opinions on her and like everybody was stuck.

Starting point is 00:21:43 They were like, that's this girl and bad, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't listen to her at all. And she started talking about that Baldoni-Blake-Lidley thing. And even my wife was hitting me like, have you heard this Candace Owens girl talking about? I mean, she just exposes the whole thing. Like, it's crazy how like social utility

Starting point is 00:22:01 frames how people see you. so you could be a bad guy and then you start talking in depth about something that people care about and then all of a sudden, while you're talking about that, you're a good guy. You're a hero. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:22:16 Like what does that say about us? Is it... What's the same with the politic thing? It's like people see you talking to a politician and now like at your Christmas and family stuff people are coming up and asking you about politics and shit and foreign protocol or whatever?

Starting point is 00:22:31 You're like, what should we do in? Syria, Theo. You're like, man, let me, let me make a call or two. I don't know. Yeah, people are asking if I was going to be an ambassador or something or whatever. Why would you be an ambassador to? I don't know. We're going to ask for Louisiana. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, but we don't

Starting point is 00:22:47 need one of them, but we should make a special position. Yeah, but we need, hey, look, I don't have you heard some of the slang down there, but we need someone who can communicate. We need an interpreter between the White House and Boosie, okay? Because we're looking, we're losing information.

Starting point is 00:23:02 The O'Bahn for Ambassador of Louisiana. The greatest thing the Trump administration has ever done. Shake it like a doll, baby, do what you do. I'll just be fucking... I'll be breaking down rap lyrics for him. Dude, that is creepy. Is that Robert Green's face on the 48 laws of power? Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:23:23 That is one of the most terrifying things I keep looking at, like, over your shoulder. That's crazy. I thought it was Dexter. He looks like Vigo from Ghostbusters, too. Remembered a dude in the painting? bring him up Vigo Did you see Ghostbusters too

Starting point is 00:23:37 No no I didn't see it My mom wouldn't let us watch that kind of stuff Oh wow he does and so do I a little bit And so does Alan Dershowitz So you are involved in politics You know all these names You're plugged in bro But aren't we plugged in

Starting point is 00:23:53 Here's the crap The funny thing about Candace is they're like They were like you're an anti-Semite and she's like Fucking call me whatever you want I'm a fucking I have one of the top ten podcasts in the world She really don't care She doesn't give a fuck. She does not.

Starting point is 00:24:04 And the amount of people that listen to her. It's true. It's true. And she changes public sentiment. Like she flipped that whole Blake lively Baldoni thing. That flipped. Like he was a, I don't want to say pariah,

Starting point is 00:24:15 but people were like, this guy's a fucking douchebag. Another one of these like, I'm a male feminist guys. And then you're really a creep on set. She completely 180 the internet on that. Baldoni got to give her a check. That's your point.

Starting point is 00:24:27 And she don't even want it, I bet. She got to be so rich because you need to be, You need to have some money to be that brave and have kids. That's a good point, huh? Right. Like, once you have kids, you got to make sure you can protect those kids. The dad must be like a rifleman or something or like a... The dad of the babies, right?

Starting point is 00:24:46 The dad, yeah, somebody has to be. They're going to hire Aunt they spent out to actually help protect their family. That'd be pretty great, actually. Denzel Washington, man on fire. That'd be pretty great. Dude, that'd be so great. they show up to their next someplace of the whole family

Starting point is 00:25:03 and Anthony Smith is their fucking bodyguard that would be pretty sick dude bro she could be in the bodyguard it's that's the new bodyguard starting Candace Owens

Starting point is 00:25:13 and Anthony Smith wow whose baby is it actually you don't want to do that no she'll get pissed dude you don't want to do that and what if she breaks the story down she finds out that it's

Starting point is 00:25:26 that's the whole story stop it stop it stop You have a deep dive on her. And she does it. She's surprised by her own results. You would never see that coming. No, but that sounds like a cool. It actually sounds like a cool movie or something.

Starting point is 00:25:40 But we're just joking, Candace. We do not. Candice, by the way, we want no problems at all. We want no problems. We want zero problems. Yep. Zero problems. Her wine scene didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:25:52 That's what she's on. That's what she's saying now. That's what she's saying. You can't predict her at all. No. She's brave and she's thorough And she's never lost a lawsuit So

Starting point is 00:26:04 She is But it is kind of crazy How like the mainstream media Had just been this machine And then now you're starting to see like Oh well what about these stories You never heard about What about the fact that

Starting point is 00:26:15 Some information might not even be true Because it was all just kind of like Part of a plan Like that shit's kind of wild Yeah And that makes podcasting And like freelance communication Or whatever it's called

Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah even more interesting. I don't even know what to believe now. You see clips and I start, but I'm like, oh, this is what I, and you're like, dude, I haven't, there's no real place to get completely factual truth. Well, maybe because. Except your instinct. Yeah, but maybe because, like, there is no completely factual truth. I could be it, too.

Starting point is 00:26:47 I think that's the thing. And I think it was probably easier when there's, like, a few different news channels to disseminate information. Like, kind of we all agree on more, hey, this is what happened during a civil war. Right. This is what happened during the Revolutionary War. This is what happened during World War II. I didn't even know Russia did anything during World War II until like a few years ago.

Starting point is 00:27:04 I found out like 25 million Russians died in World War II. Nuh. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Pull that up. How many Russians died in World War II? That's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:27:12 You don't ever hear about that. Never hear about it. But why would we teach that? Right. You know? But it gives you a different concept of who did what? 27 million. Wow.

Starting point is 00:27:21 Oh, my God. Yeah. 19 million civilian deaths, 8.7 million military deaths. That's the thing with Russia. It's tricky. It's like, so they were an allied force, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:34 And then immediately afterwards, you know, we started, you know, beefing in the Cold War and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, we had a united cause at one point in time

Starting point is 00:27:40 because I think Hitler invaded Russia. Oh, wow. Yeah. But the problem with invading Russia is like they have a, like a cultural acceptance of misery. Right.

Starting point is 00:27:51 So they kind of like it in the beginning. Is that what you're saying? Of war you're saying? They're like, oh, finally. This is our, we're back to home of stasis. Be our guest, be our guest.

Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah, like, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. So, so I don't know. I just feel like if, like, Americans, we like it. We like, we like nice shit. We like it being comfortable. We're brave. That's what I will say.

Starting point is 00:28:14 Like, I don't have concerns about us losing a war. Yeah. Because I do think that we, we value freedom. Like, I don't think we would ever accept being controlled by another country. I think that the majority of us would rather die before that happened. Right. Or we just don't know that it's happening. Here you go again.

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Starting point is 00:34:03 I was like I wonder how they did that But let's go Wow Yeah We're it's not gonna age well It'll be fine Candice it's um We're joking

Starting point is 00:34:14 It's all jokes But yeah, I mean, but the worst, if you see a Charleston white video before you go to see, if that's the last one you see? That's a wild dude, Charles. Have you had him on your show? No, have you? Uh-uh. That's a wild dude, man.

Starting point is 00:34:27 He is just so unpredictable. The next sentence he says is also one of these things where it's like, people who say wild shit can also be hilarious. Let's stop acting like both of those can't be true. You know what I mean? Like him, Dr. Umar, I love Dr. Umar. I've been trying to get Dr. Umar on my show forever.

Starting point is 00:34:44 Really? When you come on? Well, he thinks I want to debate him. Oh, yeah. And I don't think he understands that, like, I'm just a fan. Like, I just think he's a hilarious communicator. Does the culture, does black culture fuck with Dr. Umar or no?

Starting point is 00:34:57 As the spokesman for black culture, I would say yes. Yeah, I would say yes. That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, because I know sometimes people are if he on Charleston White in the black culture, you know? Yeah, yeah, because I feel like maybe it's like his position is more critical. Right.

Starting point is 00:35:15 Whereas, like, maybe Dr. Umar also has the same critiques of certain things. But he is like, hey, we're black first and we got to stay united. We got to lock this down. We got to do its best for the community. But he is a, like, magnificently gifted speaker. Like, he just talks in sound bites. He has this, like, pastoral repetition. Like, remember, like, early Chris Rocka,

Starting point is 00:35:33 who he would, like, repeat the premise over and over again? And it kind of, like, just. Emblazoned into your head. But, yeah, man. Have you ever talked to him? Charleston White No, no, Dr. Umar, yeah. You're familiar with him, right?

Starting point is 00:35:48 I just heard about him, no joke him one week ago. No way. Somebody mentioned, have you seen Dr. Umar? I think my buddy Zeta told me about him and showed me him. Oh, dude, he's... I thought this, oh, I thought that was fucking Kendrick Perkins or whatever. I just saw this guy. So you thought Dr. Umar was moonlighting on TNT?

Starting point is 00:36:07 And now everybody's just trusting. Everything he says. I was like, how did he fucking change? You're like, why is that? Drusky going to him for dating advice. Why is Kendrick Perkins? They got so melted. They came after Drewski.

Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, that bullshit-ass claim against Odell, too. That's the thing. And then, like, whatever girl did that shit, we'll never hear from her again. So you can just say these stupid shit. It's just, you should have to go to jail for that. Yeah. You should have to go to jail for that shit.

Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah. Because he has to go out and say, I didn't do it. Like, that's a crazy thing to have to say as a human. Jay Z had to say that shit. and then they just dropped the lawsuit. Did you see that? Against Jay-Z? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:46 And then again, nobody even notices when the lawsuit dropped. It's like you got to scream it from the rooftops or else nobody will pay attention. I know. And that goes to that like haters shit with the successful. It's like that story was so popular because there was probably a lot of people that were like,

Starting point is 00:37:00 man, fuck Jay-Z for having a perfect wife and an amazing family and a child and billions of dollars. Yeah, he probably did that shit. Damn. And so then they're the ones tweeting it, sharing it, everything. And there's boss. now. I mean, it's just, it's definitely bizarre. You've got to trust your own gut, but yeah, you could see an article. It's the last thing you saw. And then you're like, people are like, damn, wasn't that

Starting point is 00:37:22 guy addicted to drugs? You're like, that guy is just won an Oscar. It's just like, you know what's been going on, you know? It's all crazy, man. You'll see stories about yourself that are crazy. I saw a story that I was like a all a jar cheese child or something from the third generation or something. And I was like, like a billionaire stepchild or whatever. And I was like, what are you fucking, I was like, is my debt, if we had any money, they'd never, no one ever had it. But, yo, here's the thing with that story is like, that story is just to discredit you. Right? Like, if you come from crazy money, everybody gets to go, ah, see, it's not real.

Starting point is 00:38:00 And he actually didn't have to experience this kind of traumatic childhood. And like, this is all bullshit. It's like the story is specifically designed to cut your legs out from under you. Yeah. It's like, why do people want to do that? Why is that? And maybe it's in all human beings. Maybe it's just something that we have to grapple with.

Starting point is 00:38:16 But I imagine, like, the more confident you are and yourself, the more happy you could be for people who get success. Yeah, that's a good point, man. I think realizing that, I think, well, I think for a while you come from like a scarcity mentality, you know, where you're like, man, shit's not going to, like, fuck, somebody's something bad, you know, this ain't going to be okay. This is going to go away. Right.

Starting point is 00:38:37 This starts to change or, like, the government's just going to come and take everything from you. You can't believe that it's happened after so many years of trying. Yeah, and then also, you don't know how to have, like, things. And so you're like, well, dude, I remember being ashamed to myself when I didn't have anything and being ashamed to myself when I did have something. But it was really crazy. It was like I tried to hide, always mask my life because I didn't want people thinking that, seeing that I didn't have anything or that I didn't feel like I was anything.

Starting point is 00:39:02 And then even when I got a house in Nashville, it's a nice home. It's not like, you know, some crazy. It's a nice home, but it's not like a billion dollar home. thing. But I didn't want to show people my living. I just didn't want them to see like, you know, I don't know. It's just fucking crazy. It was like, so in the end, there was some part of me that just didn't want to be,

Starting point is 00:39:22 that either only cared about what you thought or just didn't want to be happy for myself no matter what. And then you can never feel comfortable no matter where you are in this journey, man. And that's, I guess what is, what would they say? That comes down to like self-acceptance. It's like once you accept it, like you should be entitled to your success and you work hard for it. then you're not as dependent on, like, the validation of others.

Starting point is 00:39:43 I know. But, um, it's hard to get away from that, I think. I don't know if it's hard. Some things like doing ayahuasca, that kind of stuff has helped a lot of that stuff. Really? Yeah. That kind of stuff's been a, been, uh, um. You've done that a few times?

Starting point is 00:39:54 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like it, dude. Really? Yeah, you do it enough times that give you this jacket. Oh, yeah, definitely. Some guy walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica. Jaquetta, parati.

Starting point is 00:40:07 You got a punch card? And before that I was a trip, you gave him Eagles, the Letterman jacket. That is so ridiculous, dude. That is cool. You know who told me? Neil told me that... Oh, yeah. Neil Brennan became the...

Starting point is 00:40:20 He became like this connector. Go on? But no, I think that's kind of what it is. Like, you know, Neil is... One of his super powers is his cynicism. You know, like, he's constantly consumed... I hope he doesn't mind me saying this, but he's constantly consumed of, like, what the worst-case scenario of something would be or what the worst person would think about the thing he's doing.

Starting point is 00:40:42 And what's good about that is like when you're creating stuff, there's an advantage in that you're always thinking about what your biggest critic could say. So maybe you really try to sharpen every premise and sharpen every joke and make sure there's no fat and it's like infallible. And the negative aspect about that is that like if you're just creating for them, it's hard to create something authentically. And then he said, he was like, listen, after I did that, like that voice started to dim a bit.

Starting point is 00:41:08 And like I didn't have, I wasn't constantly consumed with the critic. And I was able to make, I think my best shit. And I think that's true. It's like, it's hard to create authentically when you're worried about what critics would say.

Starting point is 00:41:21 Like, you're just making shit for them, you know? Like, or for somebody, especially when your whole life, you've only tried to, you've gained a lot of your acceptance from other people.

Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. You know, I think that's probably been a lot of my life. But I didn't even know who I wanted. There wasn't a me, so the only thing there was was your reaction. Yeah. So I didn't fucking...

Starting point is 00:41:40 Do you think you found yourself? I think it's gotten better as I've gotten older. I think some of it is getting older. You just kind of like, I can't even fucking... Whoever you are, motherfucker. Come out. We ain't got a lot of time left, bro. You've now, I didn't...

Starting point is 00:41:52 For 40 years, my boy, like, enjoy some of this shit. We got a new jacket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. Hey, man, come on that, man. We got to figure this shit out, Tom. You're just getting tired of it. That's funny. That's great, dude.

Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, so I don't know, but I think also you just get older and you're like, there's just no, whatever part of you that still cares about that shit starts to go away, I think it's just exhausted too. Well, I think, chasing its tail kind of. Maybe that's the release for you with something like ayahuasca, where instead of like constantly searching for what it is or who you are, you do feel connected to whatever this greater existence is, and you just get to go, okay, I'm not going.

Starting point is 00:42:34 gonna fucking worry all day about what exactly I am and what I don't have and just be this, you know, bottomless pit that a lot of us in entertainment can be. Like there is, and maybe that's what you need. Maybe you need that reminder. Maybe you need that reminder. You're part of something bigger. Yeah, I think that that's a good point, because once you feel like you're part of something bigger there's some connection, then you kind of don't just think about yourself. You're not as isolated. Yeah, you're not. It's, it's, there's something liberating about knowing things are way bigger than you. Yeah. When it's not bigger than you, it's very easy to get caught in your own head.

Starting point is 00:43:07 It's, fuck, it's a lot of pressure, I imagine. If you're just thinking about you and, like, how you're being perceived and if you're becoming the man you thought you would be, and, you know, if you feel comfortable with the success you've had, how other people will react to that success. Oh, yeah. That's crippling. That shit, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's kind of, like, scary, I think, as you get older.

Starting point is 00:43:27 I think, yeah, popularity is kind of scary. Watching your own ego and being conscious of, like, what is your ego and what is your ego and what? what is just you trying to have some self-confidence in yourself, especially if some of those things are kind of like, you're like kind of a late bloomer and some of that shit's happened, you know, can be, happen simultaneously. It's all, yeah. What's an example of that?

Starting point is 00:43:44 I mean, even some of the, like, thinking about, I knew something about politics. It was like, just the fact that it took me a couple weeks to realize, dude, you don't know about fucking politics. Like, yeah, you got to talk to some political people, but do, and how much do they really know? And, but it's like, don't, that's a trap, right? What do you know about? you know about like being curious, you know about like wanting to talk to different people,

Starting point is 00:44:05 you know about trying to be funny, you know? I think politics is always a reflection of culture. Like politics is downstream from cultural needs and necessities. And I think that one of the things that's made you so successful is I think you're deeply connected to culture. Like you're aware of what people are feeling. You're aware of what they're frustrated by. And, you know, regardless if there's like data analysis

Starting point is 00:44:28 to back up every single one of those claims, like to me, that doesn't mean it. thing. Like you can list out all the facts you fucking want, but like, you're aware of people's frustrations. And, um, politicians have to react to that. So, you don't need to know, like, what fucking senator is pushing what bill, because they're all reacting to the thing that you're more acutely aware of, probably than even them. Yeah, yeah. I guess it, like, you can't be a comedian if, or at least a high performing comedian if you're not in touch with, like, what people are feeling. Yeah. Like, I, at his core, I think that's really what, you know, like, you're not.

Starting point is 00:45:01 make somebody a good comic. Yeah, and how to stay, like, just how to, like, stay connected to that type of thing, I guess, you know? And sometimes with success, it's harder to connect to it. And it's also harder for them to connect to you. That's probably why you want to hide the house in Nashville.

Starting point is 00:45:17 You're like, fuck, well, they feel like they can't relate to me because of this new life I live. I'm what, that, that's something that, like, so I grew up in New York City, right? And, like... In the city grew up? Yeah, I grew up in Manhattan. And, uh, one of the things about growing up in Manhattan,

Starting point is 00:45:31 And it's incredibly humbling. Like, you never feel... You weren't in the newsies. You weren't in the newsies. I was in newsies. Were you really? No. I was in Newsy's in.

Starting point is 00:45:41 People asked you that for? No, no, you're the first person. I can't remember when that was. But I love that movie. Good little movie. I think Christian Bale was in that shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:51 Crutchy, that little guy. Like, give me the paint. So fucking... That was my childhood. But I'm just saying fucking bullshit, you got a fucking kid on one crush. Hiking through fucking. I can sell the newspapers. Hiking up the LIC with a fucking sack of newspapers, dude.

Starting point is 00:46:07 LIE. LIE with a sack of newspapers, man. But anyway, like, you just humbled constantly. You never feel like you got money. There's always somebody way richer. There's always somebody with a way better job. There's always some of the better career. Like, because you're in the city where the most successful of all the people have.

Starting point is 00:46:22 So you never feel, like, you never feel this concern that you were talking about, which is like, oh, if I show this nice thing I have, people will think that I'm, I consider myself better than them or something. If you grow up in New York, you never feel that way because there's always someone so much higher than you.

Starting point is 00:46:42 You know what I mean? There's always so much more wealthy. So it's just this, there's like a hustle mentality which is like, I'm going to work really fucking hard. Yeah. For as long as I possibly can.

Starting point is 00:46:52 And I'm going to try to get some nice shit, but I'm going to earn it. I'm not going to just have it handed to me. I'm going to fucking bust my ass. But when I do get it, I don't feel guilty about it. because it ain't even as close as nice as the guy who lives three blocks that way.

Starting point is 00:47:05 So, but I understand, like, my mom's from Skolin, like, fucking, you know, comes from nothing. There's that sentiment of, like, you getting something nice, the community could feel like, oh, do you think you're better than us now because you got this fancy house? Oh, yeah, when I was a kid,

Starting point is 00:47:21 like if somebody could read, people would call him a f***ing, whatever. You know? Like, if you got to, if somebody brought home a B on our bus, dude. If fucking, you were just a,

Starting point is 00:47:33 just a fucking sick homosexual. Yes. You know. Yeah. You fucking. Yeah, they would beat you up. I mean,

Starting point is 00:47:39 they would let people ride home on our bus with no shirts on. And I'm like, and yeah, I'm like, well, why don't people have to have to have shirts on or whatever? But it was just like,

Starting point is 00:47:46 yeah, it was just, yeah, I don't know. It's tough. You want to kind of stay like, I don't know, as your life changes

Starting point is 00:47:51 and as you get all, things change, your life gets bigger. And you kind of sometimes want to just stay the same. Like, I think there's parts of moments in my life that I really miss where I was real comfortable. And I think as your life changes sometimes,

Starting point is 00:48:03 it probably is like a new space. What's it been like for you having a child since I know a lot of your special was about it? Like, was that something that took away a lot of that just worrying about yourself type of thing? And did it really? Or you just, was that something that's people to say? I'm glad that you asked that second question. But the weird thing about having a kid is it, it is literally every cliche that anybody has ever said. All right, that's a little Shiloh. Dang, huh? A little cutie. Wow, at the beach, rich.

Starting point is 00:48:30 What UFC fighter does she look on? Oh, no, hold on. Don't do it. Huh? Don't do it. I mean, we got to do it. But for your wife, you have to say that. She, she, and this is, Nick, you know who it is.

Starting point is 00:48:44 He's got a fight coming up. Michael Chandler. A little, but he's fighting Volcanovsky. Oh, oh, Tiggle Lopez? A little bit. Oh, my God. He's a pretty motherfucker. I'll take that one.

Starting point is 00:48:55 That's a compliment. That was acceptable. That's got to be a new segment I think that on the Theo Bob podcast is What? Yo, yo, he's good. He's good. Oh, that's pretty cute.

Starting point is 00:49:07 Oh, little cute. I don't want to someone him to hear me say that. But there's something very charming about him. She's a beautiful young lady. That's going to be a great fight. Shout out Volk too, man. I think that is an exciting fight, huh?

Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah. Seeing Volcanovsky sing the other night about that. You got a little voice, bro. I know. He's got a good voice. And it's just fun to see his. It's so great, I think, if fighters are around long enough where you get to see their personality.

Starting point is 00:49:31 Of course. Like, they used to only have to just be so tough. And now they can do that, but also, like, have a bit of showmanship. Yeah, we want to connect to them. Yeah. But I will, you know, back to the kid. Back to the kid, yeah, man. It's every cliche you've ever heard times 1,000.

Starting point is 00:49:45 Like, and it's, there's a reason why that exists, I imagine. It's like, we all should have this reaction towards children, right? Like, their smile is the best smile. Their laugh is the best laugh. It's the most incredible experience you ever had in your life. And there's a little part of you as like a comedian that goes, you know, oh, I'm going to have these unique takes on being a father. And it is, your takes are so similar to every other person who's ever been a dad,

Starting point is 00:50:07 which is, which is now I see as a beautiful thing. Right. But yeah, your life gets really small. I can only speak for myself. But like, I just don't care as much about other things. You know, like I want to spend time with her. I want to spend time with my wife. And as long as they're proud of me and happy with me, that's enough.

Starting point is 00:50:24 Right. Anything else is, it's icing on the cake. It feels really good. Like the response to the special feels really good. It's like amazing. Like all these people who went through IVF and had a similar journey as us to like get pregnant. Like they're talking about like feels really good. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:42 But I'll tell you what they as long as like my wife and baby are happy with me. Like that's, it is an amazing. I hope you experience it, man. If that's something that you like to experience, but it's transformative. like to have that man it's cool to hear a parent say that too you know i think that like it's nice to hear a parent say those things about their family did um it's it's so cool man it is also you'll watch you like it's very very rare in life you get to see somebody give a hundred percent like really a hundred

Starting point is 00:51:13 percent and like when you watch them in labor is a hundred percent really it's just they're giving everything they possibly can give what happens if they just do 80 percent or whatever 60 percent or That baby stays in there, bro. Like, we had to do a C-section. We, my wife had to do a C-section. I didn't do anything. I just sat there like an asshole. And, but it was, but yeah, it's just amazing what they're willing to do.

Starting point is 00:51:37 Like, my wife lost a lot of blood. And like, uh... Like 50 cent almost. Literally it was like, yeah. Yeah. It's very similar, actually, when 50 went through. I got to talk to 50 about that. I was like, dude, you basically got a C-section out there.

Starting point is 00:51:53 there in Jamaica, Queens, bro, we talk about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 50 C. He's good.

Starting point is 00:52:02 He's fucking good. No, but, but bro, he was like, she had no energy left. She had no blood and her system left.

Starting point is 00:52:07 And they ask her, they're like, can you do a little breastfeeding for the baby because she needs to eat right now? And then they're like, if you don't have energy, that's fine.

Starting point is 00:52:14 She breastfeeds the baby. The second the baby pulls off, this is like after, I don't know how long it is. She goes, my wife's like, is she good?

Starting point is 00:52:21 And the doctor's, yeah, she's good. And the second the doctor takes her off, she just closed her eyes and passes out. No way. There's this, like, primal urge to do anything for that. They'll do anything for that baby.

Starting point is 00:52:33 And it is like, yeah, it's a beautiful human experience to watch somebody love something like otherworldly love. And, yeah, I think it's a really important part of, if you're lucky enough to be able to do it, it's a really important part of, like, the life experience. It just makes everything small and worthwhile. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, dude, that's, yeah, thanks for sharing that, man. Sure. What's it like to see your parents interact with your, with your child? So my dad is, my dad is dementia. I know he's sick, right? Yeah, he's had dementia for a while now, so he's, it's hard for him. He did the intro to your special. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

Starting point is 00:53:11 That was cool, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was wondering, was that tough for you guys to get him to pull it off, it was okay. You know, it's interesting, it's like, he's, like, we put the, this is, we filmed that actually at the early part of the tour. I loved how your special started off with the joke, because it, it, it, it, it, it, it, Maybe it just like, oh, I'm already having a nice time. Boom. I thought it was a great choice.

Starting point is 00:53:27 Y'all made to, I thought it was one of the best, I thought it was one of the best I'd seen in a while. Thanks, man. Yeah, it was cool to, yeah, the first one we were thinking about, we're like, should we just start the joke? And then, like, the first thing is, I think I go, you guys want to hear my favorite New York joke. And we could have just cut that line, but there was part of me that went, like, if I'm just hanging out with friends and I go, yeah, I got a good joke. You guys, my friends or anybody else in that group will go, yeah, I like hearing a good joke. Like, this is why I'm tuning into a special.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Like, sometimes I feel like the first joke you tell on stage is the most inauthentic. Because it's like, hey, we're going to do this thing where I talk and you guys just listen. And once we get into it, it will all make sense. But the first 30 seconds or a minute of it is inauthentic in a way. Unless I honestly tell you, hey, you guys ready? Yeah. I'm going to tell you a joke. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:23 Does that make sense while I'm trying to communicate? I've never thought about that before. Yeah, there's this kind of moment where everybody pretends, like, they don't know you're about to tell it. Like, they kind of, like, there's this weird moment in the beginning. We have to suspend disbelief or whatever it is. Like, what's he going to do? We know what we're going to do. Juggle or, yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:40 Remodel the building? Yeah. So, I don't know. I was like, how do I just make it feel like authentic or natural or whatever? And, um, but yeah. But having my dad do it, the intro is just the coolest fucking thing. And how many takes do you have to do with dementia? How many, what is that like?

Starting point is 00:54:57 So that we did a, I mean, he was able to, he was able to knock it out, but we tell him the line right before every single time. Yeah. You know, just give it up for my son, Andrew Schultz. Like, and he goes and says it, and you could really feel him. It was like, really beautiful. I'll probably get emotional. But he was like, he really wanted to do it, you know.

Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. And like, he's been a great father. So it's like, and he's like trying to remember it, you know? And like, yeah. Yeah, it was just really, yeah. Yeah, it was cool. That's awesome, man. It makes me sad kind of.

Starting point is 00:55:26 Not sad, but it makes he... No, it's beautiful. He had something that's real. Yeah, it's beautiful. Give it up for my son, yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, dude, right when I saw that,

Starting point is 00:55:34 because I remember seeing the video that you shared about him when you were gonna play Madison Square Garden. Yeah, yeah. And it was like, that was like something that everybody could relate to. And yeah, when I saw that, it was like, because yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:55:43 He was, I keep saying it was, which is fucked up, but like, he had a, he had a really shitty dad that, like, wasn't there for him at all. And he didn't have me until like late, but he like, he never said this,

Starting point is 00:55:58 but like he made a decision that he was not gonna let that happen again. And he was just like, he was just there for everything. Like every, I don't know what it's like to not have a dad there for everything. Which is an amazing privilege, don't get me wrong. But like, it was just so important to him to like, oh, let's go throw a base, let's play some basketball, like whatever you want, I need help with homework,

Starting point is 00:56:19 like whatever it is. and, you know, he has his dimension. I feel like every time I see him, I just like, I just hope he knows that he was incredible. And like it's, that I'm nowhere close to where I am without that. Right. Like all my confidence comes from him. Wow.

Starting point is 00:56:39 You know, like every bit of like self-belief, like anything is just, there's this guy who's believed him. Yeah, is there a part of you, like, so as dementia, I guess someone's like, so who someone is starts to kind of disappear a little bit? Is that a fair way to say it or not? I would say like your short-term memory goes away. So I guess memory's broken up into long-term memory and short-term.

Starting point is 00:56:57 And for someone to get into long-term, it just needs to be repeated. So he has his long-term memory. He, like, knows the map of New York. He can, like, go around the city, but he might forget, like, what he's going to do. Right. But he knows how to get home. Yeah. But if we took him to Florida, he wouldn't really know how to get around.

Starting point is 00:57:13 Right. And then short-term, it's like, he doesn't really know, you know, he'll have a conversation with you. and then he'll kind of forget and he'll bring it back up. He has like a few things that he'll like talk about but I will say that like you know

Starting point is 00:57:27 the concern is when this happens is that like something underneath is bitter and angry and like he just becomes this like resentful human being but he's pure man like he's just a pure like loving good soul so he gets to find out every time I see him that he has a granddaughter

Starting point is 00:57:43 and like that's pretty awesome like you know like so there is a Like, if there's a little positive perspective that you can, all you can do is change perspective on shit. So, like, I can tell him every single time. I was like, yeah, I got a talk. He's like, what? Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:57:58 What's that like, you know? And like, so that's cool to tell us. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. That's got to be super cool. Yeah, it is. Is there any fear that like, as a part of him, like, that the part of him inside that will forget that you care about him?

Starting point is 00:58:11 Is that, is that like, does it make any sense? I, the fear is that I haven't communicated to him. Enough. Enough. Enough. How incredible a job. he did. And I don't even know if that's important to him.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Right. But it's important for you to know it. Yeah. Like it's important to me that he knows that he's the goat. And like he might not know that. Like he's and it's interesting. Like, yeah, like it's, yeah, it's just so interesting. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah, it's like you just want them to know. Yeah. But then I realize now after having a kid, like before I had a kid, I thought he was doing everything just for me. Like he was doing things that he might not actually want to do, but he's like, I'm going to be there for my kid. And now that I have a kid, you get so much joy. Oh, you realize. Oh, he was.

Starting point is 00:58:58 Bro, it's this beautiful relationship where, like, you can selfishly be a good dad. Like, taking my kid to the museum of natural history the other day was more fun for me than her. Yeah. Watching her look at a woolly mammoth, you know, like, and just have her fucking mind blown. You know? She's just, she's looking at this. She's looking back of me. She's like, what the fuck is this?

Starting point is 00:59:18 And it was just, and I'm like, we got to go to the museum every week. Like, whatever. There is this beautiful where like your selfishness benefits your kid. Ah. Maybe if you have a healthy relationship. I know there's like unhealthy shit there too. But I think I see what you're saying. So then it's like now it's like there's no way he couldn't ever know how much I care about

Starting point is 00:59:37 him because it almost doesn't even matter because he cares about me so much. As a dad, you care about your kids so much that as long as they're okay, that's, then everything else is it. You would hope. Like is that kind of what you're saying a little bit? You would hope, I mean, I mean, again. Right, I know there's a lot of instances that's not the case. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I would just, yeah, I would hope.

Starting point is 00:59:56 I hope that's the case. Like, he'd battled with depression a lot. You know, like, my family's got a lot of mental illness in it, right? Oh, yeah. So, like, so he battled with depression a lot. And so it's just, you know, like, you don't know what to do when you're a kid about that. Like, I used to take him to a comedy seller before I ever did comedy. I was like, I thought that, like, if you laugh, you're not depressed.

Starting point is 01:00:14 Like, that's how I thought it worked. So I'd take my depressed as dad to the comedy seller. Little did I know he's just listening to depressed comedians. He's probably getting more depressed. He's struggling his life. He got to listen to these sad-ass comedians on stage talking about how shitty they're like, he's like, this kid is going to kill me. But hey, if it makes his son happy, he's thinking.

Starting point is 01:00:40 He's doing it for me. He's doing it for me. Damn, they almost killed himself. Half the comedians are. You're doing it for him and he's doing it for you. That's fucking hilarious, dude. Yeah. He's like, God, he's fucking sitting there.

Starting point is 01:00:55 He's fucking just rubbing it over. Trinking a pollen spring, just looking for the vein. So, but yeah, it's just, you don't know. What a fascinating thing that he's doing it. That, that what a unique way to think of a crossroads of a father and son that he's doing it for me and I'm doing it for him? That's kind of fascinating. You don't know. Like, you just don't know how it works.

Starting point is 01:01:18 when you're when you're younger like you don't even know like the effects of depression or these types of things especially in his in his era like 20 years ago you had no idea even 30 years ago yeah no idea you're just like oh rod and he likes to fucking sit in the car by himself my dad would go sit in the car by himself for a couple hours i love it i love it and my mom and he's moving once go well if you get out of your fucking car like he wants to be out there sitting out there by himself the man in our town used to park their trucks behind the wind Dixie and cry back there sometimes. Yeah. And you'd see him just fucking, you know,

Starting point is 01:01:52 you see you got to open his car doors to let a bunch of tears fall out and close it back. Like, it was fucking... Yo, there is bravery to that, though. That's the thing that, like, I think we look back at that generation who was really trying to figure out how to deal with their mental health

Starting point is 01:02:07 and they stiff upper lip it. And I think a lot of times we go, oh, they just ignored the problems. It's like, no, no, you can't ignore depression. It's not something you could ignore. You know what I mean? It's there. And what they did is they said, you know what?

Starting point is 01:02:20 I'm going to go to my fucking car and I'm going to cry and I'm going to get back and I'm going to be a dad. I'm going to be a husband and I'm going to take care of his family. And it's like... And I'm going to get my fucking son of Pistons jersey. Exactly. And you're not even a Pistons fan. Like, that's depressing too. You want it so badly for this kid to be a Knicks fan.

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Starting point is 01:06:14 I know that the baby's waking up from a nap. let's say I'm at the studio or something like that. And I call and, you know, and she knows I'm calling to see Shiloh, right? And once I called my wife and then she was coming back from like a workout class or something. And she was like, oh, I'm not home yet. So I'm not with Shiloh. And my heart sunk because I was like, oh, fuck. Like you don't even think I call for you anymore.

Starting point is 01:06:40 So in my effort, you know, to just like connect with my daughter in every possible way I can, I am forgetting about my, connecting with my wife sometimes. And your wife doesn't want to be angry at you for that because she's like, thank God I have a dad who's so committed and just in love with their kid, but you can't forget about them. Right. So it's like this constant adjustment.

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Starting point is 01:07:24 Oh, you don't want to talk to me. She gives me attitude. Now you can't win. You just want to talk to this old bitch. So, yeah, you got to do that, man. Oh, damn, dude. Yeah, that's crazy.

Starting point is 01:07:39 Yeah, it's wild. Wow, dude. What a neat journey. And I was just impressing your special. Like, you're just going. It's like, you know when I first watched you were such a power summer the first time I ever saw you at the black baby or what's it called the one that's next door of the comedy store

Starting point is 01:07:52 uh fat black pussy cat fat black pussy cat right and um village underground maybe maybe maybe that one yeah it was one that kind of has the tears in it a little bit yeah yeah yeah village underground yeah but dude I'd never seen I was like oh my god and I'd go up after you dude and it was so fucking scary and I was like I'm sure you killed that shit I did okay but dude then this is so and that was great I mean but that was just like I mean that was probably years ago too. Yeah, yeah. But then, yeah, this was just so, like, taking me through this story and the journey,

Starting point is 01:08:20 and it was, I don't know, it was cool to see. It felt, like, grown up a little bit. Yeah, it's just different. Like, I never been personal in my, in my comedy. I didn't even think my life was interesting. So I was like, yeah, I was like, I thought my opinions on shit were more interesting in my life. So I was like, I don't need to tell you about what was going on in my life.

Starting point is 01:08:37 And then, and then this thing happened where, you know, we couldn't get pregnant. And it was because of me, my sperm sucked. No way. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my sperm. What happens? You take a minute. I'm the face of shitty sperm, bro. Oh. You felt bad for a second. You're like, hold on.

Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. Well, it's just crazy because you have that like spice trader energy. You know what I'm saying? You want to know some crazy shit? My boy is a spice trader. This guy I play paddle with, all right? This my boy, we call him Spice Man. We legit thought he was a drug dealer for so long because he says like I'm a spice trader. Like he makes little jokes about it that he's not joking.

Starting point is 01:09:16 He'll show up late to a game and he'd be like, man, Sesame was down crazy today. I couldn't find a place to store it. And then he'll say, coriander options. Yes, yes. It's literally like a stock market. Like he's back and forth from India. So we're like, there's no way this is his real life. Like he sells fentanyl or cocaine or some shit, right?

Starting point is 01:09:34 And he's just saying it's turmeric. Right? So, but turns out this motherfucker is a legit 2025 spice trader. This is like the oldest job ever We ride here Yeah, dude, that's it, bro We ain't going in anywhere From the past, baby

Starting point is 01:09:53 How crazy is that? Shout out to Pete, man, spicy pee We call it spicy pee. Yeah, dude, spicy pee, that's great. That's a be a dope-ass job Just hitting the streets You what you want And you got to be fucking

Starting point is 01:10:06 He'll just hit me with random spice facts I'm cumin Yeah, he was like, bro, you can't store the cumin with the turmeric, right? because one goes old and I'm like, oh yeah, of course, that's a huge, that storage shit is crazy out there, you know? Yeah, 10 our fathers right now, dude, that's crazy. 10 our fathers?

Starting point is 01:10:22 You can't be doing that, yeah. What does that mean? It's like you confessed it in a confessional. You get a punishment? They make you do those punishments or whatever. Oh, dude, you did the wrestling thing. Was that interesting? Oh, that was so cool, man.

Starting point is 01:10:34 It's cool. You did a good job. Thanks, bro. It looked, it looked, was it scared? I thought you were going to get slammed. Yeah, like, yeah. Was that an option? He was about to, uh,

Starting point is 01:10:42 I didn't even know what was going to happen. You didn't? No, I didn't know anything that was going to happen. I'm just there hanging out. Then Logan starts to, you know, get me to try to lie in front of all my people in Madison Square Garden.

Starting point is 01:10:59 Let's go. This shit is... Oh, exactly. I mean, doesn't look like I'm prepared for that. And his... What's his finishing move? The tax evasion?

Starting point is 01:11:13 That's good. And that's the next move. We got to move to Puerto Rico. The Puerto Rican W-9, that's his fucking finishing move. Oh my God. Dude, does he sling? Maybe I didn't see this.

Starting point is 01:11:29 No. Stiles comes in to save my ass. He'll come in a couple seconds. I beat toast in front of my wife. Did part of you want a little more smoke after that? Like, was there a little bit inside you that's like... I need justice, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:42 I need justice. You can't come do that shit to me in Madison Square Garden. I agree. my home talk crazy to me you know I need I need some I need some paper bro I need my get back you know who Aaron the plumber is Aaron the plumber I think we had him on the podcast actually did you have Aaron on the pod I think so like 20 years ago or like four like yeah like three years ago I think no no no no this is that we had this is a different Aaron the plumber we had Joe the plumber Joe Joe the plumber bro this guy's an absolute internet

Starting point is 01:12:08 sensation Joe found a baby in one of the pipes Joe found an offspring wow in one of the pipes what is that that horrible time to say that no that's a that's a Trees joke. It is. He said, I jerk off so much in the shower. I'm surprised the drain ain't prepped. Joe is like,

Starting point is 01:12:25 it was. Yeah. I think I'm working at your place. No, who's Aaron the Plummer? Oh, dude, this guy's cool guy. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 01:12:36 He was on this Zeus Network show. Do you know what the Zeus Network is? Uh-uh. Is it like that Stars or whatever, like Ghost Book Phantom, whatever? This is more ratchet, bro. But Aaron the Plummer, you're not qualified.

Starting point is 01:12:49 This guy is a certified hilarious. He was an actual certified plumber. Dang, yeah. But he's hilarious on this dating show. And he was just, you know, he would get in a fight with anybody who pop shit. He's like, all right, let's go. We fight right now. But he's also hysterical.

Starting point is 01:13:04 And so, yeah, he's just an internet sensation. I love this guy. Dang, I haven't seen him. I got to check him out. Who did I see recently? Gun O'Lavish. Have you seen him? No, who's that?

Starting point is 01:13:15 Young kid. He like, he makes me. Let me laugh, huh? He's out of Mississippi, mate. Gonna lavish. You can see the text went out of him. Just go to shorts right there. It started over.

Starting point is 01:13:30 Doing there, it ain't going to be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong. Stay strong, bud, nigger. You wonder, and everything ain't going to be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong. Okay, get me one more of him. Get me a... Oh, stop me.

Starting point is 01:13:49 Humble FN over there. Try that one. You out here being humble when everybody popping that shit. It's time you start popping your shit. Start being humble for it, you know.

Starting point is 01:14:05 You out here being humble when everybody popping that shit. It's time you start popping your shit. He just made me laugh, man. He's out of Mississippi, man. I just like his thing. He's just somebody I started watching, you know.

Starting point is 01:14:19 There's like people you see and they come up, and then once you watch them a couple times, and you keep having to watch them, you know? I'm obsessed with it. It's crazy, dude. I'm obsessed with Temptation Island Spain. Really? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:29 I could see that. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah? This is the craziest reality show I've ever seen in my entire life. This guy, Montoya. Have you not heard of the Montoya guy? Mm-mm. Oh, my God, it's been crazy.

Starting point is 01:14:40 So basically Temptation Island. The idea is you and your girlfriend go to this island, and you split up, and then they send people to try to fuck you and try to fuck your girlfriend. to see if you'll cheat. And where are the people from the mainland or whatever? I think you're all from, they're all from Spain pretty much.

Starting point is 01:14:55 Well, some of them maybe from other Spanish-speaking countries, but everybody speaks Spanish. So this one couple, she, that girl right there, Anita, Anita gets just banged out, I think, five days in by this other dude, and he's got to watch. So this other... Why do you have to watch? Because that's part of the show, bro. So they're just cucking my man Montoya. But Montoya is so charming that you actually don't look at him like a cuck.

Starting point is 01:15:16 You're like, oh, this is... He's like a flamenco singer. He's the man. So he gets really emotional about watching the guy just beat cheeks on his girl. Oh, yeah. And this seems like modern day Shakespeare almost, you know? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm talking about kind of?

Starting point is 01:15:32 There's very much a thing where like... Yeah, yeah, it's a fella, really. Yeah, when the figure would be like, it would open up a portal in your head where you thought this your wife was cheating and you would take your own life or something. So there it is. So, like, he's got to watch this security camp footage. And you could, like, hear, like, pelvis hit cheeks. Like this.

Starting point is 01:15:51 Oh. Yeah, it's brutal, but it's also fantastic TV. God, I've never seen that. It's amazing. And I haven't watched the whole episode. I just watch, like, whatever highlights get clipped and put on, like, TikTok or Instagram. I think that's how I consume everything. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:05 But I, yeah, everything I possibly can I consume. Yeah. Well, it's funny because you start to want to have, like, an information diet so there's things you can talk about with different guests or whatever. That's what I heard Mr. B say. Like, he hires people to have an information diet. For him. So they all absorb stuff.

Starting point is 01:16:20 filter it down and then he gets like this stuff from them that's like fine tuned to exactly what he would want to know the most oh wow and that's crazy he's like a human version of chat gpte yeah so he has intelligence intelligence yeah like real intelligence he has like an algorithm that's yeah he's like a human kind of algorithm you know yeah sort of i guess so he's outsourcing his like interests how do you run it back against those paul guys i wonder how do i run it back against Logan or Jake as well get Jake involved as well dude I would fucking if I saw those people in my dreams I would beat the shit out of me yeah yeah that's a good caveat right there that's a very good copy yeah now Logan needs to get it back Logan needs to get Logan needs to get some get back

Starting point is 01:17:04 that's that's that's the reality you can't come into my place and do that obviously but um you know Jake I don't even know if Jake's going to be involved in in wrestling you know he's doing his he's doing his boxing thing yeah but um but let's see what happens. I don't know. You never know. You never know with these things. Yeah. What about you? You're going to get involved in some wrestling? I don't know, dude. I thought about trying to wrestle one of those guys.

Starting point is 01:17:26 I would have to really stretch and focus on fitness. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I have to really stretch and focus on it. Or you could just get dragged through the ring like I did. And they did not work in fitness at all. You know, you know, is it the craziest part of that? You didn't even see the end of it. I got dragged over to banister,

Starting point is 01:17:44 rag-dalled on the ground, into the ring, bent over and put into a suplex. This other dude, AJ, saves me. After Logan leaves, I jumped on a top rope. Like, I did something. I think I'm the first person in history to just get my ass kicked and still go on the top rope and celebrate. But it really goes back to exactly what we're saying earlier. If all people see is that clip of you on the top rope, they're like, this guy won.

Starting point is 01:18:10 So I'm like, I might never do this again. When am I going to knock jump in the top rope? Come on. I got to tell my daughter something. that's classic man have you thought about over the years of moving out of New York I know we were talking about the taxes and stuff in there

Starting point is 01:18:24 and it's pricey have you ever thought about going on to Austin you ever think about that? Not living there no no I mean like look it's fucking incredible what Joe's done down there like it's incredible it's kind of crazy that it almost feels sometimes like another center it definitely feels like another

Starting point is 01:18:41 new center of comedy which they didn't have five years I can't believe I'm going to say what I'm saying right now. Because obviously, you know, New York guys, we're incredibly biased about stand-up. We're like, the best stand-ups are in New York, and this is where you come. You've got to make your bones. This is what you got to do. And then the idea was, okay, but if you want to become, like, famous, you can go to L.A. because that's where the industry is. Somebody's going to pop into the comedy store. They're going to see you. You'll be famous. That's at least, like, the hope or the dreams or whatever, right? But as of right now, if you're a young comic, what's your

Starting point is 01:19:10 pathway to success in L.A.? If you're a young comic, what's your pathway to success in L.A.? perception doesn't mean that it can't happen, but like in LA or New York. Like what shows can you get on that eventually you become famous? Because I know if I'm a young comic, I can manage to get on Kill Tony and become a regular, I'm selling out theaters around the country. These guys are selling real tickets. If I get into Joe's world and I'm able to go on the podcast a bunch and maybe even go on the road, like I'm getting a career.

Starting point is 01:19:35 I mean, to me, it's like we need to start building some infrastructure in New York so these guys feel like there's a pathway to selling tickets. And that's not just New York, that's LA too. Those days of just like getting a role in a movie and then you sell tickets are done. You doing a TV show one-off and then you sell that you don't just sell tickets. You need to be like ingratiating yourself to the people through stand-up comedy if you want to sell stand-up comedy tickets. So I don't blame or I don't begrudge any comic who's like, I want to go to move to Austin because I feel like that's where the thing is happening. Especially if you just moved to New York or L.A. to make it. I'm from New York like born.

Starting point is 01:20:13 raise in New York. So like moving to another city is like leaving my whole family, my friend group. It's like you're leaving your world. Oh, there you go. That's what I was thinking, I guess. Oh my God, I do kind of look like that motherfucker. Diego Pena, what's his name? Man. Diego Garcia? He looks ugly next to

Starting point is 01:20:31 Christian Bale, bro. And he's not even that ugly, bro. I'm saying he looks like me. So I can't be insulting him that much, but Christian Bail is one fucking handsome guy. Well, didn't imagine the safe is another even less. Did he, A.I.I. my face onto that? I did.

Starting point is 01:20:45 This is face swap. God damn, bro. I look ugly next to Christian bail. That motherfucker is handsome. Look at Bruce Wayne right there, dude. God. Nah, he's a stud.

Starting point is 01:20:58 He's a stud. And I'm worse looking than you. So the tough part is it only goes another step down here. How fucked up is that me insulting him before I knew it was me? Like, that's insanity right there. I mean, it's the

Starting point is 01:21:15 Where's my self-esteem at? Don't come here for it. I don't know. I've built this railroad on low self-esteem, dude. Have you ever heard of the low self-esteem engine? No, I haven't heard. That's the only thing that's run on these tracks for years, dude. I mean, we're picking up.

Starting point is 01:21:33 We're picking up steam, but it's been slow. Oh, God. What are we talking about that? Oh, this scene. So it's just like, I imagine every, yeah, the scene. I mean, think about like, obviously we're in different positions, right? Like, we're in a different part of our career

Starting point is 01:21:47 where we have, we can live wherever we want. It's not the beginning of our career. Exactly. So, but if you were young and you're like, my pathway to success, like, what, if you go to LA, what shows do you get on to eventually make it? Like, what is your... Right. Well, there's a couple things.

Starting point is 01:22:01 One, you can get a lot of, there's a lot of, like, influencers and stuff out here. So there's a lot of, like, social media influencers. That stuff is real out here. There's movie stars that live out here. and there's television shows, but I don't know if a lot of stuff still shoots in L.A., which is kind of crazy. Like, even whenever we shot this little movie with Spade there,

Starting point is 01:22:20 we're like, they're like, thank you. People were like, thank you guys so much. For working here. We haven't had work in months. And I'm like, what do you mean? Because I don't know who shoots what, you know? They're like, yeah, I'm like, in Hollywood, you haven't had work in months?

Starting point is 01:22:35 And yeah, I guess there's just nothing shooting here, which seems crazy that you would build an industry where then nothing even shoots within it. You know? Like at a certain point, you can't cut every corner. Like, okay, we're going to shoot out of state to get a tax break. But the tax incentives are really big. You can shoot up in Canada.

Starting point is 01:22:54 You can shoot up over in Atlanta. Like, the tax incentives are huge to go shooting these places. The one when California matched them, it seems like. I think like, like, it's just like we were saying, like politics is always downriver from culture. So they're going to have to learn the hard way. They're going to have to see the industry actually start. to be negatively impacted, like, for a while, and then they're going to have to vote out whoever is in power with that kind of influence. But L.A. thrives on Hollywood. Like, there isn't

Starting point is 01:23:23 L.A. without Hollywood. Like, that's the industry. That's true. I guess then it's kind of like Barcelona or something in a way, you know, some cool museums and it's beautiful. We don't even know you guys have museums out here. I'll be honest with you. Like, somebody told me that. They're like, oh, yeah, we were spending some time in museums. I was like, you got museums out here? Like, I thought you had that observatory shit that's up on the hill, and that's it. Yeah. We don't know that you have, like, the theater. Like, do you have plays that come out in L.A.?

Starting point is 01:23:49 I have no idea. Like, can you watch Hamilton in L.A. ever? I don't know. It's a good question. Well, we don't really have that district, like the theater district that New York has. I mean, Danny McBride was saying this the other day. He goes, you know, I've always been kind of amazed that L.A. doesn't, like, historicize itself better as a structure.

Starting point is 01:24:08 He's like, when you go down the street here, you're. should be every other building should be this is where um this was films this is yeah this is where sidney portier us lived the first three years that he lived here in this apartment like you know like and this these buildings we've kept them because they're and some of it is still the same because you know you don't have as much wear and tear from the elements here um outside of like the fires recently but you don't have just like the constant salt salt in the air like you do it in a lot of places. But overall, he's like, yeah, I'm just kind of amazed that you don't go down the street and every other building is historical for some reason.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Bro, I think that's a fantastic point because that is the coolest thing about L.A. Hollywood is like old Hollywood culture. Right. Like there's that hotel, the sunset tower or whatever. And like it has this cool restaurant that feels like old Hollywood. Oh, yeah, it's cool in there. It's some fancy, boozy shit, but it still feels like, oh, I can imagine directors in like the 60s. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:03 You know, what is that, what is that fucking girl with the air blowing her dress up? Oh, Shirley Temple or whatever? No, my brother. Maryland Monroe. Oh, sorry. Well, okay. Yeah, exactly. I'd like to have that stricken record.

Starting point is 01:25:23 You're off of that talking unbelievable. Well, dude, I'll tell you somebody. Here's the number one place, and I'm sorry. Who's the girl where her dress was blown up? Charlie 10. It's LA. He's right. Weinstein's innocent.

Starting point is 01:25:39 Weinstein's innocent. I didn't think if they're blowing anybody's dressing up, it's going to be a child, obviously. When people come to visit me, the one place that I take them every time, literally the tour stop, is a cemetery that's near my apartment in Westwood

Starting point is 01:25:52 that has Marilyn Monroe's grave in it, Hugh Heffner, Errol Flynn, Carol O'Connor, the guys. The guy, from um bad grampa or whatever um walter matthews in there it's just like you just show them like this you know that's kind of the neatest thing i think i think that's i think it's a great point because

Starting point is 01:26:15 there is cool historical shit about l.A but you got to embrace it and then protect it and i think that maybe it's just such a new city they don't see the value in it like we you and i are from very kind of like old places in terms like american history not world history but like There's a lot of history in, I'm going to give you New Orleans. I know you're not from New Orleans, but like just this idea of, oh yeah. There's like, and it's important to us to maintain that. We actually like the way that the buildings look. When a new fancy building goes up in New York, there's always this immediate rejection.

Starting point is 01:26:48 We're like, ah, these fucking glasses, there goes the neighborhood or whatever it is. So we try to protect, and I feel like L.A. is so transient. Like, everybody that comes here is coming from Maine or coming from, you know, Montana or some shit like that to go make it. So they don't really care that much about the history. They're like, what's going on now? Right. But the people from here, like Dove, like the people who actually grew up here, and like that is the industry. Yeah, I would like to see that protected.

Starting point is 01:27:13 That's a great point. And then there's another version of you coming out here that's not like a TMZ tour bus tour, whatever that stupid shit is. We're like, this is the Rock's house. It's like, no, go see where fucking Sidney Podier lived or go see where these historic actors, like, what's his face is first apartment? Jack Nicholson's first apartment. He's so cool. if they had that and still had it like really locked in. Dude the guy, the

Starting point is 01:27:34 founder of Keynes, this guy, Todd Graves, he still has his college apartment that was right next door to the first Keynes that's in Baton Rouge and you go in there, dude, and it is crazy. It's like it's from 30 years ago or 22 years ago or something

Starting point is 01:27:50 and it's just like old TV. He's maintained everything from it. Maintained it. Oh, I love it. Pictures from back then and shit. His life got busy and so he just wasn't there for like eight years and then he came back and it's just like magazines with like Jordan and Shaq all. He's a beast that guy. Yeah, he stays so busy.

Starting point is 01:28:05 He works really hard. He owns all of the canes still, right? This is not a franchise restaurant. I think he owns. It's kind of, it's unbelievably impressive. And maybe because I'm from New York, we just got one. There's one that just popped up in these village. But like I was talking to a buddy of mine who's actually like one of his lawyers.

Starting point is 01:28:23 And he was kind of explaining it to him. It's like, this guy's like a real ambitious, like kind of genius to, put that together. It's, it's, it's very hard to, to not sell off your company as it becomes successful. To have that vision, like, I don't know if you're like this, but if I'm building something that's successful and then someone offers me $300 million for it, I'm like, there's some people are crazy enough to go, no, this shit is really worth $2 billion. I'm like, what is $2 billion? What is $2 billion even? Like, what is that money even? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. There are people to say no to $1 billion because they know it could be worth $5.

Starting point is 01:29:00 Fuck. That's, isn't that crazy? What do you need that for? Yeah. Like you can tap out of whatever you're doing. Maybe they really love what they're doing. Maybe that's it. But then you just sell it and get locked in as a consultant or whatever.

Starting point is 01:29:14 Yeah, yeah, I guess you could. But maybe they would hate that. Maybe like they're like, it's my genius that drives this, this, this car. It's like that rigomortus, whatever, whoever made Frankenstein or the doctor or whatever, he wanted to die with Frankenstein. He's like, you know, I think that's what. What happened when Frankenstein? I fucking don't even know what happened. It was Dr. Frankenstein, and then it was the creature.

Starting point is 01:29:35 Yeah, that's, isn't that crazy? That we think that Frankenstein is the lifeless animal, you know. But it was actually the doctor. Imagine how he feels. He's like, what do you? Hey, my name's Rick, you know? It's like, nobody fucking. I'm fucking Rick Hopkins, you know,

Starting point is 01:29:59 I had a fucking bad frontal lobe surgery. Give me some God damn. That's so true. It still goes back to you see a clip or something.

Starting point is 01:30:09 You just believe it. You just believe it. Yeah. That motherfucker's name is not even Frankenstein. You know, it's called creature, which is way more adept, right?

Starting point is 01:30:22 Like, that feels like the name for it, but not. But at least that's his name. Yeah. God, dude. Yeah, shout out Frankenstein. Yeah, dude. Oh, how's the Trump thing going over in New York, dude? You know what's so interesting?

Starting point is 01:30:39 It was like... It was crazy how right after the election was over, everybody kind of went on about regular life, kind of. Bro, it's... And like, now I'm almost like annoyed, but I'm like, I thought we weren't going to have to go through this again. Like, I don't know where, how it is, like, here, where you're living. But we're back to, like, the bipartisan bickering, you know,

Starting point is 01:30:58 like this doge is a big deal, right? Even though there's no American that wants like waste, there's no American that wants like government bloats. There's no American that wants like inefficiency. I don't think any of us are like voting for those three things. So this should be like unilateral support. Like we should all get behind it. And maybe the way that they're doing,

Starting point is 01:31:18 I think Trump even came out and be like, yo, we're going to use a scalpel not a hatchet. Like I think we're being a little bit too forceful with the firings or whatever. But this is one of those things where like it's so annoying. And I think you can, You can blame Elon for this as well. Like on Twitter, he's a little bit antagonistic about shit. Yeah, I noticed that recently.

Starting point is 01:31:34 Some of the stuff he says, like, do you have to say that? Like, what are you doing right there? You're in power now. Like, I think you have to have a little bit different energy when you're in power. I think when you're not in power, you're trying to get to power. Maybe that antagonism is helpful, right? It can, like, emboldened the base. But you're the leader now.

Starting point is 01:31:50 Leaders don't need to poke a finger and, like, twist a knife or whatever. Well, I think what he's doing, I believe that what Elon is doing is by creating, all that commotion on Twitter, it's only helping his own business, right? So it creates now that everybody's, everyone wants to see what he's going to say, but he's saying so many things, it's hard to even juggle,

Starting point is 01:32:08 but so many people are engaging and interacting. I feel like it's probably the number one news app. I don't know if it's always been the number one news app. Has to be. It has to be. But he's just stirring his own business. It's like, so the more he does that, it just, then it's more impressions,

Starting point is 01:32:24 the more ads that he can sell, right? I don't know if that's true. But you're basically creating a, place for people to go consume content in general. And if he's the biggest creator on that platform, then it makes sense that he continues to create. So you're saying that he's not doing this just to get out information, but he's also doing this to like uplift the app.

Starting point is 01:32:42 It's like a hype machine, yeah. Oh, wow. I don't know if that's true. But that's what the feeling you get from it. I'm at least because otherwise, it's kind of in some of the shit's kind of insane. It's like, what is this like, how is he doing all of these things? And if he's not doing all these things, because who could have time to do all of this, then who is doing it?

Starting point is 01:32:58 And it's kind of annoying because he's a genius. You want him on your side. Like, I want the guy who makes the rockets on America's side if we go to World War III. Right. Like, I think that's a pretty good idea that we get the guy who's going to send a shift to Mars on our side if we're going to have, like, drone warfare throughout the world. Like, let's keep him in our good graces. I do think, and I'm a little bit more optimistic about this administration, that's what I've realized with most people, like sane people. is it if you don't, if you didn't vote for Trump, but you're not like a complete, like

Starting point is 01:33:31 lunatic extremists on both sides, by the way, if you're just kind of like a normal, regular guy, but you feel like you lean left a little bit more, you go, you just are pessimistic about the administration. And if you lean maybe right a little bit more, but you're not some insane, like right wing quack, you're optimistic about the administration. Yeah. We both kind of want the same thing. We want the best thing for American people. Right. We might disagree about where we get there, but we do want the most opportunity, wealth, ease of living for American people. So when it comes to the administration, I'm like a little bit more optimistic about it. Like, I'm like, okay, let's just see how this works.

Starting point is 01:34:09 Right. That's how I feel. Let's just give him a, give him a, people are going, oh, he's doing all these tariffs. It's like, my man, I don't, I'm not an economist. I know you aren't an economist. Yeah. I don't know if this is a negotiation. Like, if you go to buy a car and the car is like 100 grand and you go. go in, you go, all right, I'm going to offer 80 grand, right? Knowing that they're going to settle

Starting point is 01:34:29 around 90, right? The problem is, when you do that, you do that in privacy with the car dealer. Trump got to do it publicly, and now he's got people in his own country going, how dare you offer 80? That's so disrespectful. And he can't come out and go, dumbass, we're going to settle at 90. I just got to start at 80. So could you give me fucking two weeks to get it? Yeah, they don't give him any. Nobody gives him a beat to see what the long term plan is. Like, If you want manufacturing jobs back in America, then you have to make it so that it makes more sense for people to make cars in America. Maybe. That's just business.

Starting point is 01:35:04 Like, I agree with you. I never was against Biden. I've never been against anybody that's been in office. I've always just wanted the best. It's like, I want the best. I'm never going to depend on the government for my life. Like, I don't wake up every day and see what the fucking government's doing. I get out of bed and I try and take care of myself or, you know, take care of your family like you're doing.

Starting point is 01:35:23 It's like that's probably what most people think. Yeah. Anybody that has time to argue online all day is also insane, right? Like, not saying that we don't all put our beliefs out there sometimes, but... I hear what you're saying. But it's like... But you have to, like, that's one thing. Somebody said the other night, oh, Trump said it during that, that whole, like, state of the whatever, the...

Starting point is 01:35:42 Yeah, the... Yeah, yeah. It was like the state of the two parties or address them. But the... If you got to watch the hour and half of that, I don't care what side of it. This shit was hilarious. It was like somebody who wrote like noises off or something. It was just a fascinating joint congressional committees address or whatever.

Starting point is 01:35:59 Yeah, there was like fucking they kept cutting this white dude that was asleep. They threw Al Green out. People thought he was Jimmy Snooka. They fucking threw him out, dude. They kept people, like Democrats had only had their feelings on little signs that said like, not good or gazoon tight or whatever. I bumped into Al Green at the breakfast club. He was going on after me. And someone's like, hey, he wants to.

Starting point is 01:36:19 Al Green wants to say hello. And I was like, yeah, sure. That'd be cool. And this guy just got chucked out of the fucking sense. And when I go, I shake it, and like his, like, handle or something like that is, like, waiting there with, like, a camera, like, tucked here for the handshake picture. And I was like, did I just get set up in a photo op to make me look sympathetic to what happened? I'm like, what exactly is going on? That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:36:42 Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's also scary when everybody has cameras everywhere now. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people thought that was Jimmy Stunk of, which makes total sense as well. Yeah. I think it still think it was.

Starting point is 01:36:53 What a body, huh? Let's get it on. Was that was Al Green? Let's get it on. Let's get it on. Yeah, I think so. But yeah, so it's a tricky, yeah, it's a tricky time now politically. But I just still like, you kind of hope, like, hopefully there's some long-term strategy here.

Starting point is 01:37:12 It's like, because if you just look at the little bits, it's kind of fucking scary. Also, if the, if, and I'm not trying to just, like, bag on the last administration, but like, if people are uncomfortable and. The last administration was running on this platform of, hey, we're going to keep doing the same thing that we've been doing. And it was a bad plan. You can't really blame Americans for going, well, that's not working for me right now. I got to try something different.

Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah. And then giving the new thing a little bit of leeway. It's not like, again, I might be more optimistic. And if it goes bad, I will be the first person to criticize it. Right. I have no problem criticizing whoever's in power. Yeah. Okay, this is the easiest thing in the fucking world for me.

Starting point is 01:37:52 but I am hoping I'm at least going to give a little bit of grace and hoping that this is going to work out for all of us and I'm going to give it more than a fucking few months I'm going to give it a little bit to see where it goes and if it does go I'm not going to be the guy to go told you so you fucking idiot

Starting point is 01:38:06 because that's not the joy that it brings me the joy that brings me is like hey shit we're actually making some cool change right America's going to be doing better we got opportunity to you know start here and get up here imagine if you brought some industries back where people have pride in their homes

Starting point is 01:38:19 and in their towns dude I'll tell you this we've gone on this tour I've been on we've gone to probably 200, the top 200 cities so far, size-wise, right? We've gone fucking everywhere. And a lot of the places, man, it's the same. It's like there's no, there's not a lot of businesses there. There's some cities that have kind of changed and had some turnaround and it's been

Starting point is 01:38:38 uplifting, but there's been a lot of places that it hasn't, you know? And it's sad. It's like, oh, all this place needs is one good, like, influx of people and a purpose. You know, when people have jobs, they have purpose. Yeah, and so it's like, I'm just going to, I'm for surely going to stay hopeful. I hope that if there's some tariff stuff and then we start making our own fucking cars here, dude, there's a guy who just made a show a t-shirt. I think it's called American Giant.

Starting point is 01:39:08 Can you look that up? There's a guy he wanted to make, find a t-shirt that was made in America, American Giant clothing. He couldn't even get a t-shirt that was completely made here. He couldn't get a, he couldn't get a, a whatever this is called a template or a blank in America. He couldn't, they didn't have it, right? They didn't, we don't make a fucking t-shirt in this company, right? Country, yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:34 So, don't they make Tesla's here? Yes. So, like, Tesla's are an American-made car. So, like, bare minimum. And, like, I'm not trying to knock any of the American, you know, other American cars, right? Like, but I don't think Ford is entirely made here. Right.

Starting point is 01:39:48 I might be wrong. I don't think they are. You drive Ford, somebody said to me. I'm like, that's when I knew. Like, hold on. How's this guy not to pronounce it? Swedish guy? But that's a great question.

Starting point is 01:40:03 Let's look that up. Yeah, what cars are made here? What percentage of Tesla's are made in America? What percentage of Ford's are made in America? That's a great question, man. And I guess that, you know, you could be putting together the full car here, but maybe there's like certain factors that are doing other stuff. And I'm okay with that.

Starting point is 01:40:15 Like, I'm okay with outsourcing to different countries. I think it gives them opportunities. as well. That's a cool thing. But Tesla claims that nearly 100% of the vehicles that sells in the United States are manufactured domestically. Exceeding the industry average of 52%. Wow. Now, that doesn't mean they don't make cars in other countries as well. Right. But the ones that are sold here made here, regardless. Okay. If we want to attack in a car company, right, and again, I don't know if they're attacking Tesla because they don't like the product. They're attacking Tesla because they don't like the CEO of the company.

Starting point is 01:40:50 And that is the risk of being a celebrity CEO. By the way, there's like CEOs of, and you talk about this all the time, but some of these like pharmaceutical companies, we don't know who the fuck they are. Right. And there's a reason, because if we did,

Starting point is 01:41:01 people would execute them. Something could happen. Something could happen. We don't know. Something could happen. Somebody could throw them a surprise party. Bro, if you have a billion dollar business and nobody knows who you are,

Starting point is 01:41:15 you're doing some fucked up shit, my boy. Yeah, you're doing some fuck shit, man. Right? Some fuck shit, homie, yeah. For real. So this is like a kind of shitty situation where, like, yes, I understand that he's antagonizing people. He's like rubbing people the wrong way. You don't like the guy.

Starting point is 01:41:28 You don't like the beliefs. You don't like what he's doing. And there are things to criticize. I'm not saying there aren't things to criticize. Like, everybody is, nobody's above criticism. But to punish that car company that is 100% made in America, made by people living in America, Americans rely on those jobs. Like, maybe we criticize another thing.

Starting point is 01:41:48 What is your goal that we shut down those factories and those Americans lose those jobs? That makes you feel better about your gripe with Elon. That's a thing. Some people they just want to win an argument, it feels like, sometimes. There's people that rely on those fucking jobs. Oh, for sure. They got kids, bro. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:04 Oh, dude, there's no doubt about it. But here's one thing that I think is sad about Doge is that the fact that we have to out, we now have to have someone audit our own government. Our government is supposed to be the thing that we can trust. Like, it will never end now. And people are like, why is this guy having a team that audits? It's like, I agree, but I'll let anybody audit. If you bring on another company, they audit and they find, I'd give them 10% of the bloat that they find.

Starting point is 01:42:30 If they, you know what I'm saying? The simple fact that we now have to audit our own government. Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I don't, people I think will gravitate towards corruption naturally. And I think it's something that you constantly have to fight every single second. Yeah, you definitely have to. You said something interesting, though, like this idea, like you wake up every morning and you're like, I don't expect government to do something for me. I think that's a more like southern and frontier belief. You know, I think that like when you grow up in like New York, there is this relationship with

Starting point is 01:43:00 the government where like if the roads are fucked up, you start going, yo, why the roads fucked up? Like we're spending all this money in taxes or like the government you're supposed to do it. You're giving me all these rules I got to live by. So you might as well do some shit. But that's interesting that you have this perspective, which is like I don't expect anything from you guys. and I wonder if when they encroach on your freedoms, it's that much more annoying because you're like, I don't rely on you for anything and you're going to tell me what to do, whereas we might be more accepting of the laws and the encroachment of freedoms

Starting point is 01:43:33 because we are more reliant on them for certain things. And I wonder if that's why some of the COVID stuff was way easier to accept in big cities because we already had this symbiotic relationship with government. Whereas in a place like Florida or even, you know, other like southern, maybe I guess somewhere I'd say it's not all. Yeah, a lot of rural areas. And more rural areas, it's like, yo, listen, don't mess with me because I don't ask you for shit. Right. And now you're getting into my house and telling me what to do when I already don't ask you for anything.

Starting point is 01:44:04 Right. We have one road. We keep it clean. It's fine. I drive a truck, so you don't have to pave it. Yeah, it's fine. That's it. Right.

Starting point is 01:44:13 We're doing, yeah. Yeah. That's a good, but it is interesting. like different areas could affect your perception. And yeah, like I think a lot of like, one other thing is I think a lot of people just worry about our traditions starting to disappear. And I think that's where a lot of pushback comes from.

Starting point is 01:44:27 What do you mean by that? Just like, you know, like tearing down a statues and saying that everything is racist and stuff and not honoring our history, whether it is racist or not, like not did not. Like, you know, if you take it away completely in three generations, no, you know. This is the tricky thing where it's like,

Starting point is 01:44:44 I, okay. I try to meet people at their intentions, because I often want people to judge me on my intentions. When I say some crazy fucked up joke that's not even fully fleshed out on a podcast in him, I want people to go, oh, he just wanted it to be funny, not, oh, this guy's an evil asshole, right?

Starting point is 01:45:02 So when I see people taking, like, the progressive measures that might feel like they're going too far, I at least have some empty. I go, all right, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to make this world that we live in, this country we live in, a more comfortable place for everybody. and you're thinking about these oppressed or ostracized groups

Starting point is 01:45:20 and you're like, how can they not see certain imagery that might remind them of these horrible things that their ancestors went through? So like I go, okay, I get that maybe you have some really good intentions here. And then we can meet at that where we go, I get your good intentions. And then we start to have, then let's have the conversation of, okay,

Starting point is 01:45:39 how much of that are we going to remove before we start removing, like, the history of our country? And some of the history is ugly, and that's, it's unfortunate, but it is the history. Like removing it doesn't remove the history. Right. But at least not looking at them

Starting point is 01:45:53 like they're assholes that want to destroy America. Maybe some of them are. But I think some of them also just kind of want to make life better for people. Yeah. I don't think everybody's bad. I think there are bad actors on both sides.

Starting point is 01:46:05 But I think there's some people who like, maybe they were bullied a lot as a kid and they're like, man, I don't want anybody to go through that shit. Like, yeah, I don't, I want to look out for some people and create some more protections. And sometimes those protections might,

Starting point is 01:46:16 go like a little bit too far. And then sometimes instead of creating protections, people will, like hurt people, hurt people. They'll do the opposite. They'll be like, oh, all white people are horrible. It's like, okay, okay, you're going too far. Yeah. You might have experienced some really fucked up people

Starting point is 01:46:30 in your childhood and maybe you have that way of looking at it, but it's not going to help if that's your way of communicating. Yeah. Yeah, I think the truth is usually kind of in the middle. I think you're right, you know? And the fact that, yeah, it's like, it's so funny. It's like you get so stuck in your own perspective of what your own perspective is.

Starting point is 01:46:46 And you need to be in your own perspective because it's a survival thing too. It's like if I'm sitting here daydreaming or something and I get attacked by an animal or something and that's on me, right? But to actually put yourself in somebody else's shoes and think like, well, what is it? What is it really like?

Starting point is 01:47:00 Yeah. You know, or what is like going through like certain classes or history class or things like that? Like if you're different ethnicity or different sex or something, what's that shit really like, you know? They're supposed to have VR goggles that were supposed to be able to do that, you know? We could just see what it was like being Native American back in it.

Starting point is 01:47:17 Yeah. Hey, uh-huh. Yeah, they're all Italians. Look, but look, the goggles kind of like, they set it up to make it sound like who really killed the Native American. It was Italian. Christopher Columbus. Look at these guys. Hey, fucking Red Horse.

Starting point is 01:47:33 Get over here. Fuck out of here. How many necklaces we're going to wear, huh? You called a night about some blankets. Hey. Hey, hey, hey, yeah. That would be cool, though. But you could set it to any way, you know?

Starting point is 01:47:51 Oh, that's... Because he was Italian, right? Wasn't Columbus Italian? They said he was. Who the fucking knows, dude? I'm sure he was probably Italian via Israel, according to a lot. According to a lot of Reddit feed this week. So Twitter, it's just, they just blame everything on the Jews, bro.

Starting point is 01:48:11 Like, it's not even... Shit that you didn't even imagine. It's the Jews' fault, right? They got nothing to do with it. Soon they're going to blame Christmas on the Jews. Oh, that was, kind of. The Jews are impressed, but also not cool at the same time. What if they're like, yo, can you blame some good shit, too?

Starting point is 01:48:33 We did some good shit, right? Like, y'all like Christianity? Like you like watching Family Man, don't you? That's one of your favorite Christmas movies, isn't it? Gangs in New York? Who do you think fucking put that together? All them Christmas carols. They're probably written by Jews.

Starting point is 01:48:48 A lot of them are, man. See? It's so funny. Yeah, what are we going to do? What, um, I'm trying to think of what else is going on, dude, that I was thinking about. What's up in your life, man? Everything is fine, man. I just been just been working a lot, you know?

Starting point is 01:49:03 Like last year we really focused on if we had some time off to go and just worry, like, go travel to a place to get, get, and stuff, you know? Yeah. So it was like a big focus last year to do that. Have you taken, like, a vacation? No, not in a while. I was supposed to get one over the holidays and it just didn't happen.

Starting point is 01:49:22 Do you like taking time off? Does that feed you at all? Yeah, I need it. I need more of it. And do you enjoy it? Like, is your time off just hanging at a beach or do you like going to, like, a city that you're really interested in,

Starting point is 01:49:33 like learning about the history? Like, what is your version of a... It's just been the beach, really. I think I've been, like, I think I just kind of got... I just put so much work on the calendar that I didn't start to schedules. I would love to take two weeks off and go to like a country or something. That'd be awesome.

Starting point is 01:49:50 You know? Yeah. So, but then I start to think about that. Like, well, I'll probably get a girlfriend or like a fiance at first because if you go by your, unless you get a buddy to go with or something, that could be fun. But it's like two weeks. You can't really go by yourself really, you know? And so then it's like, what are you going to do exactly?

Starting point is 01:50:04 I imagine you with like a small Asian tour guide. And that's it. Just you guys motorcycling around Vietnam. Or Cambodian or something. Just say shit to him all the time. Knock, knock. Yeah, that would be ideal. Yeah. But not traveling alone is cool, too.

Starting point is 01:50:23 Cutting him to feed him a little piece of yam or whatever. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to feed them. You know, they might feed themselves out there. The first struggle, Bayer went through up, the first struggle was finding all the components, the cotton, the buttons, the zippers, the rivets. Once Bayar did all that, he ended up with his first product, a plain-hooded sweatshirt. We already know all this stuff. I was looking at what some of the price issues were on stuff that he faced.

Starting point is 01:50:46 But it was a nightmare for this guy to do it. And he couldn't get it done at like, you know, it came down like $37 or something, which is, you know, but to do it on a regular basis. And then Walmart decided we're going to support him. We're going to give him like a big order. That's fire. That's kind of where he's at right now. And if you can make a big order, you can obviously reduce the pricing. Right.

Starting point is 01:51:04 Then you can go ahead to the place to say, look, now I'm going to order this many. Can you give me a better rate, you know? Can you get the material from, does the material also have to come from here? I imagine we have to get all of our material from other countries. That's a good question. Like, are we creating textiles here? It's a good question. It's crazy because you don't know that.

Starting point is 01:51:19 You know, it's like a lot of this stuff we don't even know. And then you look around and you're like, but if you find out that you can't even get a t-shirt here, then you're like, well, fuck. If we're not even making one t-shirt, then what are we making here? I mean, yeah, we're completely reliant. It's a little scary, I guess. That's the thing. It starts to get scary. Because, yeah, I mean, because T-shirts are the least.

Starting point is 01:51:42 necessary product that we are completely reliant on other countries for. So if we're relying on T-shirts, what else are we relying on? Are we relying on technology in some ways? Like, what are the things that become like at-risk topics for us that we're reliant on other countries? Because it's nice to know that you're not reliant or that the entire world is reliant on each other. And if everybody's relying on each other, okay, then there's like a mutually

Starting point is 01:52:09 assured destruction. Right. Maybe that's good. Right. Just tell us the truth. If we know everything, I would just love it. If here's the exact facts. You know, when do you think, all right, you know how conspiracies are incredibly popular right now?

Starting point is 01:52:21 And, like, now everybody kind of knows the conspiracies. So that immediate hit of dopamine you get when you, like, share, like, the real truth with somebody who doesn't know it. Yeah. And when they look at you, they're like, oh, my God, you're so smart or whatever. Yeah. Now that everybody knows the conspiracies. do you think that we start, the pendulum starts to shift back

Starting point is 01:52:44 to like kind of what really happened? Because the conspiracy is like the most exaggerated version of what happened. Yeah. And what really happened is probably pretty boring. Like the truth of most things is probably pretty fucking boring.

Starting point is 01:53:00 Yeah, for sure. It's not what the media has told us. That's for certain. Those are lies, 100%. But it's not what like the Reddit historians have said. Yeah. And it's probably in, here and then we all go, oh, all right.

Starting point is 01:53:14 Yeah. Like that is, I wonder if like there's something like that even to the Epstein list. Like everybody's waiting for this Epstein list and they're waiting for it to be like direct logs where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal from a 16 year old at da da da da da da da da. Yeah, 430 or whatever. And then it's like name, picture, fucking whatever it is. And every time they hand out like the binder or whatever it is, nothing that crazy comes out. Now, don't get me

Starting point is 01:53:42 wrong. I believe he's like a prolific pedophile. If he's still alive, find him and fucking kill him. The girl too. Anybody who's involved in it, defended it. Anybody who's on the fucking flight logs, put him in prison. Like, let's, we need some justice here. But have

Starting point is 01:53:57 we created an idea of what this is, which is so far removed from what it actually is? Right. And that's why they haven't really like, this is going to be so upsetting. There's seven people in there. They're going to think, they're going to think we're liars. Anyway, right.

Starting point is 01:54:11 Like, because imagine they gave us list and there was like, there was like 25 people on it. Right? We'd be like, man, you fucking pieces of shit lying to us again. Like, the only thing we would believe if literally every single world leader went in there. Right. Yeah, this list better be so that's why I think they're still, they're probably working with like top producers, Eli Roth, like guys who really can put on a good show, Todd Phillips, you know. How do we sell this story to the American people? And then he was on here like he's off.

Starting point is 01:54:40 But yeah, I think, yeah, how do we, what do we, this has, this better be good. Why don't we just get, this is the way I was thinking, we solved it. The guy who gave, who let Epstein manage his money is this guy named Les Wexner or something like that. He's this guy who started Victoria's Secret. And like, I don't even think Epstein went to college or something. So like, how the fuck do you end up managing his billionaire's money? Right. This guy's like 90 years old.

Starting point is 01:55:06 Give him immunity. Just go, yeah, this guy. here. Les Wexner. Okay. He's a billionaire. He's 87 years old. You just go listen. You're about to fucking die. Can you just tell us what happened? Right. Tell us what happens. We'll give you immunity.

Starting point is 01:55:21 You don't get to die a hero at all. You're a piece of shit that probably funded this whole fucking thing or connected different people to different stuff. We don't know what the fuck you're actually doing. You're involved. But you don't get to die a well, you still a diabolical piece of shit. But maybe you do one good thing in your life before

Starting point is 01:55:36 you fucking die. Right. And then the American people get some satisfaction. The victims get some satisfaction. We get to actually know what's happening. Because I don't even know if we, I don't know if we actually will get to know what happening unless somebody who was involved says it specifically. Yeah. And I don't believe Galane because I think her pops was, he was part of Mossad, right? Like, so I don't believe anything she's going to say. So, yeah, nobody's going to tell the truth. Right? Like, I'm just amazed at that many people wanted to be pedophiles or whatever. So here's the thing. I don't know. That's part of me doesn't believe that. I'm like, you're telling me. I don't think they wanted to. I think that,

Starting point is 01:56:11 I think he was like, yo, I got some young bitches on an island. We're all going to fuck. But I don't think that he said, I have underage women to incriminate you on an island. Right. I think he's like, yo, I got some 20-year-old fucking Russian bitches. They're on an island. And all these dudes were like, oh, we can go party with Russian bitches? Like, I wonder if it's as simple as like some club promoter going. I got a table full of girls at Tao tonight. You want to party? And people go, well, that sounds like a great idea. Nobody's idea in those girls. Right. And they for sure on IDM because why would they go, yeah, this guy's going to make me a pedophile this weekend. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:56:43 Right? Like, so, and then maybe afterwards they go, by the way, that girl was this old. Yeah. So I'm going to need you on a certain day to do a favor. That's how I would imagine it would be most effective. And what if some of the girls were not even underage or anything? You don't even know if you got, if you, you could have somebody say that. You're so scared.

Starting point is 01:57:05 You're already like, you're there's some favor in the. the wind, that alone, the mirage of that, that's the biggest thing. You have no fucking idea. That's a great point, too. But you're going to be so scared. Like, well, first of all, I don't want to see, I'm so bad at sex. I don't want anybody see a video of it. Fucking a hook around on an island still is bad if you're like a political figure. It has a family and you have children. Like, you could be, it could be old. They could be old enough. And it's still like, you don't want that out because it ruins your career. Yeah. So, yeah, there are many ways to do it. That, yeah. I mean, it's definitely. And then it's like, how do you

Starting point is 01:57:38 doctor all that up to present it to the American because it's a fucking, you have to find, you have to serve a Mona Lisa to the American people. There's, because there's no, but then they're like, we have to make sure all these people that information that's released, but maybe some of that's true. If like you put information and has a name in it that you're not sure, and then you get sued by that person. Or you've got to protect these girls who are underage and they were raped by these famous people.

Starting point is 01:57:59 And like, they have moved on with their lives. They got families. Do they want their information out there in the world? Probably not. They're like, I don't want to relive that shit. So redact me or whatever that term is. Yeah. But yeah, I just feel like we're at this point where like if we're going through this phase in America where we are, we're an all time low trust in all of our institutions.

Starting point is 01:58:20 And what happens from here? There's two ways we go. Talk, talk to me. It gets better somehow. Or. Or it starts to devolve even more. And crazy or see, it gets deeper and deeper. It's so funny because I've had both feelings yesterday.

Starting point is 01:58:33 I had the feeling like, holy shit, dude. nobody's going to know where to trust anything anymore. It's going to get really interesting. Or you start being honest. Like that's kind of, that's why. Right. Or you start being honest. And like, yeah, we're Americans.

Starting point is 01:58:52 We can deal with shit. Like we've dealt with horrible things before in our past. Even as humans we can. That's it. So it's like, and I think there's a version where like accepting these things and moving on allows us to have even more pride, where right now we're in this age of, like, ambiguity where like we want to be really proud, but we're like, but is some of this shit true? Like, we're just unsure.

Starting point is 01:59:17 Let us accept it. Let's accept these, the stains on our history. And then let's move on and make greater history. Let's make greater things to be proud of. I think it's a moment of history to be proud of where an administration comes in, they go, listen, we, unfortunately, the government let these food companies poison you, you know, and a lot of people are negatively impacted like that. A lot of people got cancer probably because of food that they were eating.

Starting point is 01:59:41 And that's fucked up. That's horrible. And we're going to either punish some of those food organizations or bare minimum. We're going to make it illegal for them to do that shit. Hey, some of these pharmaceutical companies, they were jabbing you up with shit that you didn't need to be jabbed up with and they were doing that so they could profit. We're going to either punish them or we're going to stop allowing them to do it so the next generation Americans doesn't have to go through what you guys went through. And then you go,

Starting point is 02:00:03 you know what's fire about America? We realized when we fucked up and we have the energy and excitement and the confidence, the self-esteem to go, all right, we're changing it and we're going to live up to the expectations that we have for ourselves. Yeah. And that's why I like, you could say whatever you want about RFK. It seems to me what he wants to do is make a positive change for people. Let's see if he's able to do it. But in terms of making America healthy or whatever, the slogan is, why would you not want

Starting point is 02:00:31 America to be more healthy? Like, give the guy a second to fucking try it. Like, every minute they're like, this is the problem today. And then that becomes a story every day. It's just like how fucked up it is. And I have friends in now that are addicted to the news and I'm just like, dude, just live your life. See, everything's going to probably be fine. It's already been fine.

Starting point is 02:00:48 We're already damaged. We all have cancer or whatever. Everything, you know, we're doing our best and shit. And like, um, you know, how drastically bad do you expect things to get, you know? Wouldn't it be cool? Like, this is all I said. Like, obviously, you know, I have a daughter, so I'm like, and she's of the age we're going through vaccines and stuff,

Starting point is 02:01:06 and it's terrifying, you know. I was talking to Joe about this. It was like, it's the most terrifying thing you ever experienced in your life is that you have the most perfect thing you've ever created and you have to put something in them and you've watched a video on YouTube that says that it could do something horrible to her. But if you don't do it, she could get some disease

Starting point is 02:01:20 that could do something horrible to her. So you're like, how do I protect my kid? there's a fork in the road and both potentially leads to horrible. How do I protect my kid? I would love nothing more than to do like an intense and I'm sure they've already done this so if you have and call me an idiot, that's fine, I'm an idiot, whatever.

Starting point is 02:01:36 But like intense research into the vaccinations and I would love nothing more if we found out, hey, you know what it? It looks like they are safe for them and there's very low chance cause of anything negative for your kid. How much nicer would that feel than right now what all of us new parents are feeling which are like do I have to delay it?

Starting point is 02:01:54 Like which ones? How do I protect my child? Right. Like, like, we want the research. We want it. Yeah. We want to know.

Starting point is 02:02:04 And I think if you gave Bobby an out where, you know, if even if it was 20 minutes a week where he gave a speech or something and maybe that he should start doing that to update people. Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah. Just say, hey, this is where things are at and we're going to try our best and this is what we're going to try to do. Maybe that would be great to have some sort of an address.

Starting point is 02:02:20 Love it. You know, Trump's addresses, sometimes there are some. So, you know, they're Trumpian, you know, they're just like kind of the bare facts and like, you know, we're going to win type shit. So maybe if you had Vance give something that was a little bit more elongated and a little bit more, had a little bit more personal notation and feeling to it like a, you know. Didn't FDR do that? I think they were called the fireside checks. Oh, yeah. Where he was talking to people.

Starting point is 02:02:43 I think you're right. We might need something like that. Dude, because there's so much muck out there. There's so much bullshit information. And like, we're guilty of that too. We just spout whatever on the fucking mic. And who knows if it's true or not. But it'd be nice if we had information disseminated from the people in power.

Starting point is 02:02:58 It might be wrong or we might be right. But they are the people in power. So we can at least hold them to that standard. If they say that they're doing this specific thing and we disagree with it, we can be like, I disagree with that. But if Bobby's coming out and he's going, listen, we're getting the red dye out of here. It doesn't benefit anybody. There are other ways to create, I don't know, sugar coloring substitutes that are less harmful to you.

Starting point is 02:03:20 Does anybody disagree with this? everybody goes, no. Okay. Done. Right. Thanks. Yeah, there's still so many people that just want somebody

Starting point is 02:03:27 to be wrong all the time, you know? So maybe that'll start to go away. I don't know. But yeah, I think if I wake up each day and I looked at everything as politics and stuff and it would just, it just starts to wear on you and then that algorithm learns you

Starting point is 02:03:39 and then you're a fucking puppy. You become a puppet. What else is going on? Let's think of something in entertainment. I'm trying to think of something. Was there a job that you had when you were young that you miss ever? Hmm.

Starting point is 02:03:51 that you were like, I'm fucking good at this shit. It wasn't that I was good at it, but I like mowing lawns. Like I felt like accomplished afterwards. Like I'd look at it and I'd go, wow, I did that. That was kind of annoying. It was hard. But there, here's this thing that I did and it looks better now and I felt proud of it. And I think there's a version of that in creating stuff in general.

Starting point is 02:04:16 But I think very early I like to work on something and then see. the thing I created. And so yeah, there was something really nice to that about that. Now I get to do a job where I like the actual work part and I like seeing the end product. I didn't enjoy the work part of it. But yeah, I think that, you know, I'm trying to think. I mean, I just worked in like restaurants. Oh, yeah, you definitely did.

Starting point is 02:04:44 I can see you for sure. For sure. What restaurants was that working at? Oh, obviously. Macaroni grill, dude. Dude, you wore a cape at macaroni grill. I'm sure. There's no way you didn't.

Starting point is 02:04:57 We didn't have a macaroni grill in the city, man. Hey, look. We needed a macaroni grill. That's your origin story. I work in a pizza shop. I do look like I can pull off pizza shop, right? It looked like I was arguing with Spike Lee. I'm trying to think of whatever.

Starting point is 02:05:16 What about you? I worked at pizza shop, man. I love that shit, dude. What was the good? Do you remember the first time as a kid that you made, made money and like the feeling of that? Oh, yeah. We had, uh, they'd pay you to clean up. We had like wishing wells in our town or whatever.

Starting point is 02:05:32 They'd pay you to clean them out like the city. It's like take the coins out of it. Yeah, get in there. Like, you get to take a ladder down and get all the shit out and stuff. And there's like, people throw fucking, like, a lot of use, like, to go orders and shit in that bitch. A lot of pop-pies in that bitch. Decent amount of money, not as much as you would think. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:05:50 Um, so we found a fucking sword had blood on it once. I remember like a pretty scalibert or whatever. Yeah. Um, but yeah, cleaning out that, cleaning out those one summer. That was probably the first job I ever had, really. But get you a little bit of money. Hide my money too. Really?

Starting point is 02:06:07 I used to put my money in a crown royal bag. Hide it in the yard. How old were you? Dig a hole and hide at probably 11, maybe 12. Hide that's a nice bag. That bitch it was nice boy. You keep that bag. Isn't that weird?

Starting point is 02:06:19 Yep. Had some de bloons in it. that I caught at some of the parades and like the Mardi Gras parades. There's just these little medallions kind of like they're not worth, they're not worth any money. But they had pictures of like different historical figures from Louisiana on them because you catch them at Mardi Gras. And I put them in a bag and hide them in a yard. And why do you think you were hiding your, your pride in the house? I didn't trust anybody in that bitch.

Starting point is 02:06:39 Yeah. Really? My three siblings and my mom, I was burying that shit. I ain't fucking Latin. Do you still talk to your siblings? Oh yeah. We talk now. Things are good now.

Starting point is 02:06:47 But at the time, I didn't trust anybody in that bastard, dude. Because I was sneaking in their room And stealing shit That's where it comes from When you ain't shit You assume other people ain't shit It starts here though It starts here though

Starting point is 02:07:03 I don't trust me so much I don't trust you That's crazy dude What else man What's up with the culture How's black stuff going over there I know That new rapper Gann Lee

Starting point is 02:07:17 Have you seen him? Yeah yeah yeah Yeah, I thought it's Gin Lee. Is it gin? Like gin for ginger. Well, first of all, he's a black dude that says the end. Sorry, he's a white dude that says the N word, right? He put two ends in it, so he misspelled it.

Starting point is 02:07:30 So he could be either one. That's all I'm saying. But yeah, he's, uh, it's interesting. Yeah, he is. And he's like, he's confident in saying it. He seems really like he's from that culture. Yeah. So now are we witnessing that word become more of a cultural thing and not a specific race thing?

Starting point is 02:07:49 That's what I wonder, because I'm just wondering, like, say you're so much a part of the culture. And it seems like he is, like he has black friends. He says the word around them. If you're so much a part of it, but then you can't say that thing. Then is that feel like the culture isn't saying, well, you're here, but you're not, you're not. So I have no idea. But it's just, it's interesting. It is interesting because it is like, so I guess when I was growing up in New York, it was a thing that white people, we would never say.

Starting point is 02:08:18 and you could not say. But like Puerto Ricans that were kind of like white presenting would say it and that was fine. I think even like Mexicans were kind of saying it. Sometimes even Asians would say it but it felt really like a word

Starting point is 02:08:33 white people were not allowed to say obviously because of the historical context. Yeah. But that situation right there is quite interesting. Like if he did grow up in this culture, maybe it's his friend's way of saying we don't see you as different.

Starting point is 02:08:48 Right. Like, we actually see you as one of us, and we don't feel any negative sentiment when you say it. And this is our way of saying we accept you and you're not different. Maybe. Again, I don't know. I'd have to ask them. Whereas, like, if somebody else said it who is not from the culture at all, they'd be like, yeah, you can't say that. And that's their way of saying, you're not from the culture, bro.

Starting point is 02:09:08 Right. Like, you are not. You're a visitor here and you're not allowed to say that thing. Right. Yeah, that's kind of how I think I'm saying. I just think it's interesting. It's kind of interesting because. You have people defending him online.

Starting point is 02:09:20 You have people calling him out online. Yeah. And some of his music is great, man. I mean, it's catchy. I'm curious to see, like, it's, yeah, it's like, and some of the lines he's saying, like, you know, don't get in trouble because of my shit. Like, you know, I'm not saying this because I'm just saying this because this is who I am, right? He even expresses in, like, that stand on its own, like, don't get in, don't repeat my shit just to get in. And then now you get in trouble.

Starting point is 02:09:44 Right. Which I think is, yeah, that's empathetic. At least given his story. Yeah, because he probably is aware that, oh, shit, white kids might see me doing this, and then they think it's okay for them to do it. And now they're getting fucked up. And so he's like, listen, your life might not be my life. Like, like, I...

Starting point is 02:10:00 At least you put a safety precaution on the shit. Like, a lot of people... That's like better than the parental advisory. Yeah, yeah. It's just there's a white disclaimer. You are not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a ginger advisory right there, dude.

Starting point is 02:10:14 That's a ginger advisory, dude. But this is going to, this could potentially open up gateways for some gingers to say the inward and some spicy, some, because they've long been looming on the edge of the culture. The ring around Saturn, they call them. And it's, it'll be interesting to see what happens, dude. Yeah, do we, that's something, like, we got to ask ourselves, like, are we fully accepting of gingers? Like, are white people fully accepting of the gingers? I mean, look, I don't, you know. You're like part something, right?

Starting point is 02:10:44 My father's from Nicaragua, and my mother's just white. Yeah. But I don't, you know, I've thought, you know, yeah, I'm not an N-Worg app. You're not dropping it. I'm not the fuck, no. What am I fucking trying to prove to somebody? But I do remember they had like this cool band. I went to a black fraternity and we'll get you out here in a second.

Starting point is 02:11:01 I was an M-1. It was like Snoop or something, New, uh, State of Noop or something. Bring up a couple of black fraternities over there, Southern. Alpha, what is it? University. Alpha Kappa-Sai? Alpha. A beta, five beta, capa fessai.

Starting point is 02:11:19 That might have been it. The capas are, have you seen the capas before? Cappas are cool. They got like a cane and they do like these cool dances with the cane. My boy was a cap in college. They could have been it. They were like swagged out. And then the, what is the, the Omega's, those are like the athlete.

Starting point is 02:11:38 That's like the athlete frat. Oh, really? Omega side five. Yeah. Oh, Shaq has that. The Q dogs. Oh, that thing, Q dogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:11:45 I think it was Q dog shit, right? They invited, they had like a, it was like, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, don't even say it. Don't even say it. I'll tell you what it was. Say the name of that cover band. What is the, don't even say the name of the nickel back black cover band, Theo. We've almost done the whole pot, okay? We did a good job.

Starting point is 02:12:10 We did a good job. I know you're trying to bait me with this, Jen Lee. We did a good job today, okay? We did a good job today. Here we go. Light it on fire. Light it on fire. It was just a crazy.

Starting point is 02:12:27 I was like, this is a crazy cover band. Don't do it. And then one of their song was like, oh, this is how you remind me? It's not. Okay. So they're doing like hip, Pop renditions of Nickelback. Nickelback.

Starting point is 02:12:49 And just make sure he say it right. Yeah. We don't even have to go into it. That's so crazy how we all know exactly how it was spelled. But yeah, look, I just spelled welcome to be in the building. So that's what I'm saying, dude. This is how you remind me. You're not, I mean.

Starting point is 02:13:10 Never made it as a wise man. Yeah. right now. I'll hit that whole of shit right now, Thiel. Couldn't cut it as a pole man's delis. We got to stop. All right. It's getting worse.

Starting point is 02:13:25 Congratulations on life. The new special is out now. Congratulations. Thank you, my dad, man. Thank you, Bill. Yeah, thanks for being just somebody. Yeah, it's good to have, like, that there's different podcasters in different parts of the country and different parts of, like, the world, you know.

Starting point is 02:13:42 And it's just we're lucky to be able to do this. and to be able to spend these conversations. I've got to come up there and get on your pod this time. Oh, please, man. I want you on flagrant, and I want you on brilliant idiots, man. I want you up there in April, I think, for a week. You and Charlotte got to kick it, man. We got to get together, I know.

Starting point is 02:14:01 Even if we just go grab a drink, I think you guys would hit it off, bro. Oh, I'm sure we would. You guys have great vibes. He's incredible, man. He's incredible. I've only heard good things, man. It would be an honor. But thank you so much for your time, dude.

Starting point is 02:14:12 I know it's very valuable, and it means a lot. I just appreciate it. Congrats on everything, man. You too, man. Super stoked for you, bro. Congratulations. You with this jacket. Zach Brian gave me this jacket.

Starting point is 02:14:20 It's very hot in here. I saw. I saw in the back. I was trying to fit in a little, so this is black as I get today, brother. The Zach Brian door jacket. It kind of shows you where I'm at, you know? Thanks, brother.

Starting point is 02:14:34 All right, you bet, man. Thanks. Oh, that was great. Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be. cornerstone that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my

This Past Weekend - #569 - Andrew Schulz

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