This Past Weekend - #618 - Sam and Colby

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

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They're those boo babies, you feel me, them spook-larkers. And they're here today. They've amassed a huge following on YouTube, over 13 million subscribers. They've been to some of the scariest places on the planet. I'm looking forward to learning about that and getting my Halloween up. Today's guests are Sam and Colby. I'm on me And I will find a song

I've been singing Just for me Sam and Colby, thank you guys for coming in, man. Thanks for having us. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. Or, like, Ouigi lurkers. Like, what do people call you guys?

Is it, like, um, spirit hunters, uh, paranormal, amiga? Like, what do you guys, like, How do you guys, I guess, what do you guys call yourselves? Is it like ghost hunters? What is it? Honestly, we should go with that one for sure. We should rename our channel to just paranormal amigos from now on.

Seance monkeys, maybe. I'm just trying to think like. I mean, that's way cooler than just saying ghost hunters. You know, most people just call us ghost hunters, but, uh, honestly, we're just like two dudes with the camera. Like, we just kind of, like, document everything that, like, that happens to us. We're not experts at all. We don't know what we're doing.

So we just, like, go into these Honda places with a camera, just us too and a couple guess and see what happens. I wish we were psychics and mediums, but we can't channel them, you know what I'm saying? Not that cool. It's almost like, uh, Ghostbusters, but like Community College kind of. Yeah, dude, exactly. That's hilarious. That's fair to say. Like the off-brand TV goes on turns. Exactly. No, it's fun. Like that's honestly, that is part of the adventure. So we have no idea what had happened. Like sometimes it's the craziest thing we ever seen. And then sometimes like just nothing happens. We're shooting the shit with our friends. Which is also like super fun. Yeah. Yeah. You guys have 15 million

subs on YouTube now. How many people live in your hometown? Oh my God, maybe like less than 100,000. So it's like so bizarre to think about. It's well. We're from Kansas. So like small town Kansas to like all this stuff. It's definitely a wild experience for sure.

So 150 of your hometowns is that how many followers you have? All coming together. It's wild to think about. Like we're still surreal to this day. Like we, like you were saying like we grew up in like a small town like suburbs of Kansas cities. So like moving out to like L.A. in Vegas has been a wild change for us. And we did it just after like high school too. So at 18,

we didn't know anybody. It just shows how many people are really interested in like spirits and like afterlife. I mean, I'm sure like every single person as a human is like always wondering what happens after I die. I don't know if you believe in ghosts or not. But like you've probably had that question of like what does happen? You know, like is it possible to communicate with like your loved ones and stuff? Yeah, well, I think it's one thing that we all have in common, right? I think it's one thing that it's like it's that one question that none of us can answer. And then also I think, like, that a lot of people think that, like, ghost hunting kind of died a little bit because it was kind of this older thing that was more popular. Like, um, and then when a lot of technology really started popping off, uh, I think people thought like, oh, well, nobody's seeing ghosts anymore as much.

You know, people thought you'd see them more on cell phones and stuff. But since nobody's seeing, I think people, it kind of, I remember like five or six years ago, being like, dude, where are all the fucking ghosts? Where'd they go? Yeah, you'd think of every single person had a camera. like they would have clear evidence of the spirits, you know? You see Casper every day I was hanging out with us.

Yeah, you see just stacks of ghosts, you'd see like just a bunch of boo-orges and shit popping off. It's not like that, man. We've had a couple boo-orges, so. Yeah, have you ever? Have you ever seen?

Oh, have we? Yeah, I said. I wasn't there for that one. I was like, oh, really? I was unconscious during that, excuse me? Hopefully not. Just so our listeners know, like,

so what you guys met in We met in Kansas in high school So we were like 14 years old We met in band camp And typical story High school and then we're else like yo We don't want to end up like all the other kids in Kansas You know just doing the same old like

Go to college get 9 to 5 whatever That was fine like go to your thing But we just really didn't think that was for us So do you remember the first time that you saw each other Oh man It was out of coffee shop in 7th grade That does make it sound very romantic No, believe it or not, I actually do remember the first time I saw it.

I think you remember this too when I tell this story, but like, it was in middle school. So we were like, yeah, actually, like 12 or 13 or something like that. And each month there would be like these awards that the students could earn or whatever or get. Like, for example, best dressed or like Sam, for example, won the best haircut of like the month or something like that. That's crazy. And so when he like walked up the stage, I was like, that guy's, he does have really cool hair. And that's the first time of song. And the rest was history.

He's got that Mormon front waterfall going on. I mean, he's got that beautiful. Yeah, you can make mittens out of that. That's what I'm saying. And that's beautiful. But you remember that. Of course. He won the award.

He won the award and I was just like, I have to be friends with this guy. Maybe even start a Vine account eventually. There we go. Yeah, Colby's the one that, like, new vine and YouTube and stuff. I was not into all that stuff. But then he was like, dude, there are people right now making vine videos and stupid videos at their mall that are getting millions of views and like no one's like in on this

and so we just decided to like go for it because we're like I don't want to live forever just in Kansas doing the normal route and let's try it. We didn't even know there was a career like money to be made out of it but I just like looked up to a lot of people on social media that I was like come on

we can like do this if we really try and then he saw the vision once like things started picking up. Yeah just to do content just to do content I was like oh I don't know 100% but like once I saw like oh like this could be our way to have a voice. This is our way to get out of Kansas.

This is our way to travel, meet cool people, all these different things, build a business. It was like, oh, wait, let's go. And so we kind of locked in on senior year of high school. And I remember our parents were like, yo, if you get X amount of dollars, we'll allow you to take a gap year instead of go to college. If you earn that many dollars in a year?

It was like, I don't know, $15,000 or something. And, like, because that would be enough for a couple months rent in L.A. And it's like, okay, well, then we had it on our whiteboard. And, like, you know, we'd check off the amount of money we're making in senior year. Like, okay. Post everyday live stream every single day. Like, we were on grind mode. And yeah, again, being from Kansas, like there was nothing to do really besides their haters around theville? Like, was there haters in the branches of the local trees? Like, was it like that? For sure. Yeah. No, our own high school, like didn't like us. Also, this was like also during the time when social media wasn't very popular.

But yeah, we get called into like, principal office. We're like, what are you guys doing? I'm fine. Like, this is not cool. We don't want you guys representing our school like this. And I was like, also we started like with public disturbance. So we'd go to our local mall and like jump off like tables and like, you know, tables and like ride couches up escalators do stupid stuff. Yeah, so you're following some fats at the mall.

Oh, yeah. We don't do that anymore. We don't do that anymore. We live and we learn. All right. man my stepmother's fat all right well she doesn't know it but she doesn't know it but anyway sorry I'm just joking around but but but at a certain point you guys sort of pivoted to checking out abandoned places right yeah

and then now it's become more haunted spots what made you switch from just like oh shit just shit just being abandoned isn't enough right because I'm we need more right we used to be scared of spiders no we're scared of spiders and ghosts so like but What makes you be like, hey, bro, there's nobody in this dark room we're in. Let's bring them in and summon them. Let's light up a Ouija board. Yeah, what makes you, what makes that kind of?

Like, yeah, how do you get there? What makes you make that turn? Well, to be completely honest with you, we started doing the abandoned stuff in like 2017, 2018. And yeah, we were legally doing like pretty much all of our videos back in the day. And we got arrested. So like in 2019, like. Oh, so we're just showing up places. yeah we would just be like okay like there's this abandoned asylum let's try to figure a way in

and figure a way out without getting caught and it was really like fun i mean that's like exhilarating but there's a came of a time that we actually got caught and we're like oh well you know uh we can't do this as much anymore but luckily like about a year prior to that we had started going to some places that were had like haunted lore right and we're like i don't really believe in the stuff like actually like both of us were very very skeptical of anything haunted ghost-related before we started. And we thought it would be great. Like, let's do this abandoned stuff, but, like, let's see if there's a ghost there.

That's funny. And, like, you know, it's probably not just a dark building, but it'll be great for content. But then things started happening. And it was like, wait, what actually was that? What was that voice? What was that slam? What was that door that just, like, you know, crash in front of me? And then have it over and over and over again.

And we're like, wait, this might actually be real. And then we went to this place called the Queen Mary in Long Beach. I don't know if ever heard of it. It's an old ship, right? Have you been before? Yeah, I think we did a, I think I did comedy on it. Oh, wow. That's awesome.

Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a huge hotel and it's awesome. Oh, I'll have some bad jokes on that MF, though. So if one of those showed up, that was me. Okay, yeah, yeah, for sure. If you heard people booing, that was, that wasn't a ghost. That was just audience people, yeah, yeah. That's great. But, yeah, we had, like, such a crazy experience.

And you really did. You're really having these experiences. Like, you're really. this is real 1,000% Well the entire time Like we didn't really Like we didn't believe

So like we were like Let's test it Because like actually It would be kind of cool If there was something You know It would be really fun And so like at this time

We were skeptical But we wanted something to happen And then at the night Of the Queen Mary Even we kind of gave up We actually did this entire video And nothing really happened All night

And then at the very very end of the night Turned off camera And we're like, well, that was a horrible video. But let's just try it one more time for the rest of night. It was like 4 a.m. And then slowly stuff started happening off camera. And this is like how real it is for me. It's like if it was just for content, we just turn on the cameras and like try to like capture it.

But instead, we just like sat there and tried to have a conversation with a spirit. And that night completely changed my life. It made me religious. It made me like want to get to the whole spiritualist thing. And I, you know, we talked about this many times after. or being like, okay, screw this abandoned stuff, I want to know the answer. Like, this is not just for content anymore.

This is, like, this is beautiful. If it's actually, like, out there, if there is something on the other side, I want to know. And so that dove us into this whole, like, career over the last five, seven years. Wow, man. As you're building that up there, as you're telling me that,

even when you were starting just kind of that parable there, or starting that, like, when you were starting to share there, it made me think of, like, faith. It's like, you know, you think there's no, nothing there, right, and something shows up, right? And like you're saying, like you were hoping something, but nothing had occurred, right? And it's kind of the same thing with faith, like even, you know, for people that are religious or have, um, believe in some sort of higher power. It's, you have to meet it halfway, right? So just the fact that you guys showed up willing to meet

whatever could be out there, you know, and, and then whatever's out there, sometimes the way it shows up could be positive, but maybe the way we interpret it, too, is, like, scary to us because it's coming from a place that we can't understand. Very, very true. And, I mean, when we first started, I mean, my entire life, I've been Christian. So, like, we first started with this, like, Queen Mary, like, experience. And for Sam, like he was saying, it was something where he didn't believe in anything. Fuck, I didn't know this.

Yeah. But I've always been born in race Christian. And so for me, it was more of just, like, a hopeful thing that's, like, securing my beliefs, I guess you could say. So it really just depends on the person, but anybody can take the paranormal, like, however they want, depending on what they believe in the personal lives. But you're right. It's so much more of, like, putting yourself out there and meeting something halfway, whether that be in a religious sense or, as we do in, like, the paranormal world, it's like so many people go out there and they're so closed off. Like, they're skeptical. I'm sure tons of people watching this right now are super skeptical. Yeah, I was one of them a little while ago.

Yeah. Yeah. But if you go into a haunted house and you're super skeptical and you don't think something's going to happen, same thing with faith. You're, you're never going to get it. But, like, when we turn off the cameras and we actually, like, okay, I just want something to be there. I'm willing to really believe and put myself there. That's when things started happening. And that's what we always advise with people to do. And when they go into these haunted places, put yourself out there. Take a risk, you know?

Yeah, dude, it's so funny. It brings me back to, like, when I was a kid. And, like, that's one thing that is amazing about kids. It's like, especially, like, ghosts and kids, like, when they're, like, you know, even until, like, 15, 60. different ages, but when you, when you had that youthful energy, you're so, like, right there on the edge of the moment, that something can meet, like, something small can meet you right there really easily. It's pretty, so willing to believe.

Yes. You know? It's such an amazing time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why, like, children have so many more experiences, because they're less closed off. They're less like, I don't know, jaded to the world, you know. Oh, it's so true, dude. Now, if a ghost showed up, it would be, literally just like, you know, all right, you know, can

you come back later, I'd probably be like, I'm busy, right? I got some shit to do, you know? Yeah, yeah. People could beg for like somebody to come from the afterlife they love and then they hear a weird knock at the door in the middle of the night and instead they call the police instead of go open it up. Like, what are you talking about your grandfather? Come on, go have that conversation. But it is, it's just interesting, like, how perception and belief can meet together to frame what your experience can be. Right. Exactly. Yeah, and that's kind of Why we do it now? Like, we definitely now believe we've had so many experiences over the last, like, seven years that have proved us that we're not the only things out there.

Yeah. But especially me, I was at a place where I thought it was all blackness. After you die, it was nothing. It was so hopeless that when I found that spark of, like, wait, there could be something more. It was like my version of finding religion. It was my version of finding hope. And I was like, wait a second. if I can prove this to myself

and now that I have over the last couple years what if I could prove this somebody else? What if someone could watch one of our videos and walk away being like, wait, there is something more? Maybe so. And what if that changes their course of their life to maybe be a better person?

Or maybe be just a more hopeful, happy person. Yeah. And so like although we are like the spooky guys, we're ghostbusters or whatever, and we're trying to get something that's scary, that scariness is super hopeful. It's like very beautiful. But we're also very inviting to just skeptics that won't or don't want to like be open-minded about anything. Like they could just watch our videos for entertainment. So really just like

you said, it depends on the person and paranormal affects everybody in different ways depending on what you believe. What, uh, yeah, this is interesting man. I didn't, I didn't even know if I expected this conversation to go like this, but this is great. Um, I'd be curious like, what do you believe? well i've gotten to speak with people that have like we had a doctor on who is a cancer doctor and he had over the years he started doing he started interviewing people that had near-death experiences and just collecting a lot of their data right like a lot of the data and finding a lot of the commonalities in it yeah um and so once i spoke with him i started thinking like yeah this was him right there dr geoffrey long and he wrote a book about it and it's an easy read but it's um you could just

tell how much it changed his life and his perspective that he at no at no fiscal reward he started creating this database and and just putting together all different people's accounts and it was just fascinating to see to see how many people had had the same experiences right and so that gave me like okay if there's if enough of its uniform here and the experiences are the same like that kind of shows a pattern obviously and it certainly starts to make you believe believe a little bit more, right? And it's really, it's like he couldn't really get to what's on the other side, hype, you know, the other side, like if you go over to the other side, whatever the other

realm is. But he was able to kind of like, through a great deal of interviews, examine some of the stair steps that people were on and what that experience was like. And so that, I think, gave me almost a little bit more of like a, really a scientific idea of like, okay, there's, there's something. more than just us guessing this, right? So that kind of was there for me. I had like a DMT experience where it's like,

you know, some people use plant medicine. I'm not encouraging that. I know you guys have some younger viewers, but that took you to a place where you feel like you were leaving. For sure. And that was pretty fascinating. Like, okay, you felt like becoming this, you felt yourself kind of leave your body

and become this spirit that the only thing you could feel was love. Like you couldn't feel anything. else. All the earthly chains of like people you knew and all of that. And like I always feel like if I die, I'm going to worry about them or there. And there was a little bit of that, but even that broke away. The amount of like immense love that was present in your being as you were hypothetically leaving this body that we know was so immense and so great. And you knew immediately, oh, they'll be here again. They'll all be here someday. So no matter what they're feeling now this moment trumps whatever that is.

And so even though you couldn't remember anything that was going on and this fiscal plane, you still somehow had the thought that like you were supposed to be there. Is that what you were saying? Well, you still somehow had the thought that, like, as it was happening, you start to, I felt like you literally start to feel like you're leaving your body and you start to, like, my first thoughts are like, you're still attached to a lot of your, like, worldly thoughts. Like, oh, my mom's going to miss me.

I'm scared. I forgot to do this. I forgot to send that email. That was like one of my first. thoughts like who gives you shit you're good the curses of life you forgot to send an email oh i should have let the dog out or whatever or man i left those shoes on the porch little things like that were like kind of going in my head but then it was like this you became overwhelmed with this feeling of like so much love um and the only thing you're supposed to do while you were alive was love and everything

else was just a ruse and then you thought oh my mom will miss me but then you thought you're like oh but she'll come to this feeling one day, too, when she passes away. So she'll have the same realization that everything is as okay as it ever could be and ever was, and it'll be that way for eternity. Dang, dude. So that may sound crazy. I've never even said that out loud. I don't even know if it makes sense.

No, no, that's a beautiful thing. But, yeah, so I think, and I want to believe. I think most people do. I feel like it's pretty sad if, like, you want there to be nothing, you know? Yeah. Like, everyone, like, deep down, whether, whatever you believe in, you would rather a way that you, like, move on. Because that's just human. That's what I, yeah, that's what I think.

Yeah, just having, and it makes it exciting. And we showed up here, dude. We showed up here. This is the craziest shit you could ever imagine. Yeah. How lucky is it to even be alive? Yeah. Just the grace to exist.

To be a fish that, like, comes close to the edge of the bowl, like, just for a second and gets to, like, peek out into, like, the universe and where we dip back in, you know? Yeah. So what happened in the Queen Mary that kind of, can you take me in any more like feelings or something that happened? Was there anything specific or was it just an overwhelming feeling? Yeah, I mean, there was definitely the feeling there. We've told the story a couple times. But the synopsis is when we turn off the cameras, we all sat around. It was like four in the morning.

It was us and a couple roommates so that we could all vouch for each other. And we just called out and we said, hey, if there's something here, can you give us a sign? and there would be like right off the bat just a water faucet full on for like five seconds and then we ran into the bathroom it turns off and then so we're like oh okay well let's continue asking for signs

and so we get like things like that's a ghost brush in its teeth probably he's like getting ready for bed it's like too late at night at that point but then like afterwards it would be like little knocks or scratches or taps everywhere and so we would be we'd test it because we were very skeptical at that time too

and it was like okay well then Can you give us, like, three knocks? And it was like, pot, top, top. Okay, let's say, can you tap over there on the window of the ship? So we know that it's not like an employee. We tap on the window. And, dude, we're, like, whispering these questions. So it's not like, we're like, can somebody tap?

And it's like out in the hallway. It's like the janitor. Can somebody play Rihanna, you know? Exactly. And then at one point. Now that it's raining. You can start hearing that, dude. I would lose my mind.

The best paranormal evidence ever, just like coming out of nothing. And it's just Rihanna, umbrella. I would love if the best parental evidence ever that convinces everybody is something that silly. That would be amazing. It would be crazy. But it's wild because people will say, you know, even in religious places, they'll be like call out to God for what you want. Call out to your higher power. Ask your deity for, you know, ask the world.

Like it's the same as when they say the secret. It's like write out what you want and like meet it halfway. Build a vision board. That's all the same thing. It's just trying to put something in existence physically or verbally to let the world meet, to let the spirit realm meet you halfway. Yeah, exactly, which goes back to like, it doesn't matter what you believe in. Maybe you don't even believe in any God, but you're just a spiritual person and you're

talking to the universe. But all it's about is having that like manifestation and like, yeah, speaking, what's it called? The law of attraction, like speaking into the universe, what comes back to you. Yeah. That's really cool. this show is sponsored by liquid iv you know people use the term endless summer oh it's endless you can have more of it it's not having to transition from summer shenanigans to the focus needed in the fall should be illegal but not for us ditch the glitch with zero sugar and zero crash

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Thank you so much. It's pretty crazy. Greatest experience to try our greatest excuse to travel ever. So crazy. Amazing. And it's just rare that something like that gets to happen without joining like the military or so, you know what I'm saying? So you guys are in a pretty rare air. What is the process when you go to seek paranormal activity? Like what is kind of like do you, is there special shoes you wear?

Is there a special? Is there no, is it no cologne allowed? Like what really are the, you know, and what do you take with you kind of? Well, we have like two backpacks full of equipment. which we can get into a little bit if you want. But yeah, we have a bunch of probably like eight to ten pieces of equipment that really react to EMF energy, which is electromagnetic energy,

that everything in the world alive or dead will emit. So everything, yeah, in this life or the afterlife has this EMF energy. Is that bringing it up real quick, just so we can put a little bit of information to it. There's some perplexity. That's what we're using here today. What is EMF energy? Electromagnetic fields, EMFs are invisible.

areas of energy, often referred to as non-ionizing radiation associated with the movement of electrical current or voltage. They are produced by the flow of electricity through wires or devices and can be found in all environments, indoors and outdoors. Does everything have EMFs? Not everything emits EMFs, but almost every object emits some form of electromagnetic radiation as long as it's not an absolute zero temperature. Any device that used, generates or conducts electricity will produce EMF. Natural sources of EMF include the Earth's magnetic field, the sun, and even biological processes within living organisms.

Okay. So it's energy. It's basically like people would say energy. This is just more of a scientific way to quantify it. Definitely. And so almost all of our piece of equipment basically measure changes in this energy. And so if you place it out there and kind of calibrate it to the environment, if there's a change in that environment, then it will go off.

Got it. So there's that type of thing. We also use, like, motion sensors. We also use, like, everyday objects. So, like, we'll get, you know, let's say, like, cat toys or, like, flashlights and things like that that are stereotypical or just everyday objects that are not, like, meant for ghost hunting just so we can show that, like, even regular objects can be used for this type of thing so that the afterlife can communicate.

So literally, we'll be able, like, you know, we'll set a flashlight down and it will turn on in front of our eyes. And it's, like, insane. But at the same time. like we would always recommend everybody start with how we started it's like getting yourself there and like say hey like call out get the knocks get the voices like we've been you know grabbed we've had voices in our ears we've like been pushed we've had door slam in front of our faces it's not always the equipment it's like all the environmental things wow it all kind of works together yeah no going back to the queen mary a little bit

like we didn't have any equipment back in the day um and yeah we were just sitting in like a dark room and just really trying to put ourselves in the mindset that everything was real that we were experiencing. Y'all were the equipment, huh? Exactly. Yeah. We became the conduit. You're all the equipment.

Awesome, man. That was dope. It was dope. And yeah, no, just like, as we've gotten, like, further in our careers and stuff, this is when we've, like, implemented new equipment. That just helps us do the same thing that we did in 2018 at the, it. It helps visualize it because, like, you know, you can say, oh, I felt something on my, like, shoulder but how does like a viewer know that right you know but if they can see a flashlight turn on

or if they can see a motion sensor detect motion they're like oh well that's really cool it's like visualize what we're experiencing but a lot of times as well now that we've done this for so long like a big part of our show is we take people on these adventures so that they can be our like independent variable you know like this somebody else who doesn't believe or maybe just like interested in it but you know it's not part of our channel or whatever will come out and experienced for the first time. We've had so many friends come in pretty much complete atheists or skeptics and walk away like, whoa, now I believe in ghosts. Even like people that, I'm like, there's no way, you know, maybe people older than us that are like, oh, my whole life, I've been

atheist. They walk away from one night being like, I've never seen anything like this. I've changing my perspective. And it's beautiful. So people to bear witness is to what's going on. Exactly. Yeah, because I just wonder, were you guys just like, you know, loitering for the spirit ops to show up or what was going on like I just didn't know like what you know what kind of was happening they're like why is this guy here like 3 a.m like just waiting in the dark

dude they probably are like if you're a spirit and you're just seeing us or like yelling around are you here they're like yeah like you dumb asses some of the shittiest spirits show up to talk to you guys no offense but it's like probably like the really smart like spirits are like I'm not talking to these too also you got think like why are why are they in like

that's this random building they're just kind of fuck with us you know it's like the smart guys we go hang out in the spa or something not in this creepy building. So we don't know who we're talking to. Yeah, you guys are talking to some real low-level spirits. Yeah, definitely. Holy shit, I never

thought about that. It's probably why we have so many scary experiences too. Exactly. It's like, who's the guy that's going to hang out in the abandoned island? You know, like, oh, well, he's got to be weird. So, no worries. Well, he's weird from this realm and he's got to be way weird from the other realm. Yeah, he wasn't even allowed to heavens.

They're like, yeah, you just stay in that place. over there, man. A couple of purgatory bad boys, man. Exactly. Damn, that's wild, dude. Yeah, but it does go back to like, yeah, you're just wanting something, right? And then, and then I guess it makes sense because it's like anything you start to learn,

then you want, you know, you start to get the accoutrements of it, right? Like if you or a doctor, you end up getting the stethoscope, right? Right. And then you get a patient, right? Like, you want people to bear witness to whatever's going on. Yeah, definitely. And that's what's, like, the coolest part of it is, like, seeing other people's, like, change in perspective and, like, how they, like, then afterwards, like, go about their lives. But, yeah, for sure, dude.

I, I think as far as the equipment, that was my question. It's like, yeah, are you guys just, like, metal detecting for bullshit or whatever out there, you know? Like, but, but when you incorporate the fact that you have to be willing, you have to want something, right? Right. That it can show up for you. I just find that is so inspiring, no matter what, because we're all looking for some sort of ghost, you know. We're all hoping that there's some spirit that comes up and tells us something, you know,

or that shares something. We're all wanting something to come along and make us feel more complete, you know? And what doper place for it to come from than the afterlife or the next realm, dude? Exactly. Because it feels hell inspiring as well. For sure. And I think it's, like, worth mistrating to that, like, this stuff doesn't happen. every single time we go to a haunted place.

Like there are so many times that like we'll have videos that turn into like duds, even if we've traveled like cross the world where we have to like completely scrap it because nothing happens. And so it really just depends on the spot and like the energy there. Yeah. And it's not like constant either. Like most of our investigations are like 12 hours and we cut it down to like an hour of like the craziest stuff.

And only half of that is even like any evidence that we got. So it takes a long time for these things. It's not like we out of everybody. you can just walk over and see Casper the friendly ghost tomorrow. Like it's like you have to go to the most haunted places the entire world and then also spend a very long time trying to like open yourself up for that.

Yeah. Dude, I'm so thankful that you guys came in, man. This is awesome. I just appreciate it. It's just nice to have this kind of conversation, you know. It's nice to be reminded of the fact that we have a part kind of in, and this sounds kind of silly, but we have a part in what we believe but that we have a part

in things that are supernatural. I think that's what it is, that we, that, because we alone are supernatural. 100%. It's, like, crazy that we're even here. It's fucking bizarre, dude. Especially if you look at the other animals and stuff, dude, they're all doing, like, normal animal shit. We're out here, people are vaping. People are lying to their parents.

Dude, if you were in the woods and you saw a bear lie to his parents and then sneak a piece of salmon or something, you'd be like, what? Then hit a vape real quick. Yeah, dude. Imagine you saw a bear get up every. morning. All the other bears are out splashing in the water and there's one bear to sitting on his computer every day. She's like, whoa. Yeah. Yeah.

He's coding. Yeah. He's coding. Yeah. It's insane, man. You guys have visited some of the most haunted places in the world that we know of right now. Are they different? Is there a common link between all of them?

Like, what, are you able to, is there sort of a overall hypothesis that you can come up with? through all that, or is it all just one by one? Most of them, honestly, are their own separate, like, entities or whatever. No pun intended. To where, like, you'll go to, like, one spot and, like, learn a bunch of history about the place. That's, like, maybe, like, 500 years old in the U.S., it's not going to have any correlation to, like, a 500-year-old place in, like, France or something like that. So I think every single spot comes with its own story and its own spirits.

There's also, like, human spirits. There's more, like, demonic things you could talk to as well. well, earthly spirits. So there's a lot of different like variables, I guess you could say, depending on like where you go. Really? So some places have different types of spirits? That kind of depends on the history of what all happened there and like how much trauma there is in the said place. Because again, all of this is based on the energy that's at the location. Is there one that stands out too that kind of had a demonic energy? Because that's an interesting word. Yeah. I mean, okay, so one place that we went to for this October, we went to Pendle Hill.

And so that's a place that's considered one of the most haunted, or if not the most haunted place, the most haunted place in the United Kingdom. Pendle Hill? Pendle Hill. Penn, D-E-L-E. Yeah. But that was the home of the most infamous witch trials ever happened. So, like, basically 11 witches were killed, 12 were put on trial for doing witchcraft. And at that time, a lot of witches turned to the devil because witches were outcasted.

by the church. And so when they would turn to the devil, they made this place more, like, demonic and, like, it has this, like, devil, satanic pull to it. Wow. And so we actually brought out a, you know, a witch that was doing witchcraft to summon the devil. That was her main practice

and had her try to summon and channel, like, the devil himself. The actual devil. And it was, like, literally, like, hundreds of years of witches on this exact hill have been practicing, trying to speak with a devil, And we try to recreate that as close as possible, which was one of, if not the most terrifying thing we've ever done. But like, for example, that would make a place more demonic. If we have hundreds of years of people putting their effort and all of their power, again, if we're talking about opening yourself up to a spiritual thing, if all you're doing is putting that faith and that energy towards something demonic, you're going to attract the demonic.

You're not going to attract something that's like happy. Oh, for sure. Let me see this. Pendle Hill is most infamous for its ties to the Pendle Witch Trials of 1612 where several local women were tried and executed for witchcraft The area is steeped in legend Including tales of supernatural occurrences Does it have any more? Can you give me a little bit more information about the witches? Maybe you could say like look up the story of Allison Device

This is how it all started How you guys found it? Oh, this is how it all began I wish we found this That'd be crazy The story of Alice, Alizon Device, Allison, is central to the infamous Pindle Witts Trials of 1612 in Lancashire, England. She was a young woman from a poor family who, one spring morning, encountered John Law, a peddler from Halifax, while walking to Troughton Forest. Allison asked him for some pens, a common request at the time. As pins were believed to have uses in folk magic, law refused, prompting Allison to utter a curse against him, upon which law soon collared. Saffirmed suffering symptoms that were later recognized as a stroke.

Called it. Though at the time, this was believed to be a result of witchcraft. Dang. And she was 12, by the way, when she did this. So a 12-year-old girl just meets a salesman. She's like, can I have some pens? He's like, nah. She's like, curse you, and he died.

And so they were like, this girl's a witch. And so her and her family were all, like, accused of witchcraft. And then they all started blaming each other in the town. But the weird part is, like, they all admitted to it. They literally, like, said on court trial, like, hey, I did use witchcraft to attempt to speak to the devil and summon him. And so it's like, well, why? You know? Oh, the family said that?

Yeah. So why did they do that? Because they thought they were so upset by what had happened to her that they're like, well, we're going to call the devil here? Well, they were admitting that even previous times they had already, like, they had already been in witchcraft and they've already been part of it. Oh, so her family was a little bit familiar with witchcraft. Yeah. Oh, but also, what's that dude doing just gooning around some 12-year-old? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying, dude? Serves them right. Bro, what are you loitering around some 12-year-old for, dude? That's so true. Oh, my God. Bro, they're catching mad gooners back then. They were. That's the kind of shit that happens, dude, even a long time ago.

And she was the one that got arrested, not him by the way. It's like, what? It's like, God, obvious. Oh, that's crazy, though. Imagine the energy of that at the time and, like, she's young and now, like, she's put in this space where it's like, how did they execute them? They hang them. By hanging. Yeah.

Yeah. So if you think about that, yeah. Like, 11 of them died, 10 of them by hanging. And that was accounted for 2% of all the witches ever that have been executed all in this one trial because the whole family admitted to witchcraft. So it was a massive deal. And it's one of the most famous witch trials in history. Because part of the thing was to be, like, freed from. Being, like, accused of being a witch, I guess, you had to point the blame on somebody else. So the entire family basically, like, turned on each other. Like, the little girl was like, my grandma did it. She was like, what the fuck? And then she was on the trial. And obviously, you're like, mom's a bitch. And they're like, but they didn't hear it right? Yeah. He's a witch. Like, oh, shit. And now I'm dead.

Oh, dude, that's crazy. That would be the craziest. It's almost like the sickest game show ever where it's going to be you or you have to point to. or it's somebody else. Exactly. Exactly. And it's your mom. Crazy. Especially if there's nobody left. What if it's just down to you and your mom?

Yeah. Do I kill her? Oh, God. And then you both blame each other? So you're both dead. Then you're like, okay. Yeah. It's like that meme or what at the Spider-Man.

Yeah. Yeah. Like you just blame each other. That's the witch trials, man. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, that would be a lot of energy being over there. Mm-hmm.

One place that's like even worse than that, I think is my top scariest we've ever gone to. And will that be on Hell Week? Will that be in, is that episode coming on you guys as Hell Week? And how long is Hell Week? It's one week of just all episodes of you guys? So Hell Week is like the brand we've started for the last like five years. But this year we switched it to Hell Month. And so basically once a week we go to the most demonic places in the world.

And we're leading up to Halloween. So every Sunday until Halloween. It's pretty terrifying. But by far like the scariest for me of this entire Hell Month was going to the Paris Catecoms. Oh, my God. I don't know if you ever heard of that. I've been there, actually. You've been in the catacombs?

Yeah. The illegal part or the legal part? I'm not sure my buddy got a little, like a, whatever, that's one of these. Oh, I got a little tarsal or something. Okay. He got to boot, like, tarsal off one of the staff there, like a little piece of bone. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, geez. So he's obviously not going to be doing well. Take a bone from the Ferris catacombs and curse forever. Yeah, dude, I said, dude. I said, dude, just get some astronaut ice cream from the gift shop. What's your problem? No, take a skull.

But he wanted to be different so he got a little piece of foot or something. So there's like two miles of this tourist style, like this tourist part of the Kyrrhus Catacombs where you can legally go into. And then there's 200 miles of a legal territory. That's a whole labyrinth that doesn't even have

a map. It's seven stories so like you can go up and down like different floors. So yeah, you get lost very, very easily. And there's six million dead bodies that are buried down underneath. And it's pretty much a mirror of Paris. So if you think of how big Paris is, you're walking around there.

There's an equivalent underneath Paris itself, which is insane to think about. And people go down there, get lost, and die all the time. And so basically we had to go down there and trust this random guide that we'd met that day and be like, hey, don't

leave us. Because if you left us, we would die. We've actually known people that have gone down there and the guides will like take them into a corner and be like, hey go check out that cave, steal their bags and run and like leave them to die just to rob them everything. Because who'd

even notice if they died because of all the other bones? Exactly. Just show them in the corner and they'll be like... And no one's coming to save you? Yeah. It's like hundreds of miles of this and it's all legal. Bring that up. Can you give me some information on that? I didn't know it's like that. Dude, I remember, oh my God, I forget about this. I was trying to like flirt

with our tour guide down there and she was looking at me like I was the creepiest guy in the world first date and a bunch of skeletons in hindsight I was and you're like so and some dude in our group kept making these boner jokes and shit it was so dumb

it was ridiculous he made like 40 bono I'm like dude yeah just chill out but he just wouldn't stop but yeah I remember trying to flirt with this girl down there and she must have been like

this guy's a creep Placing the time. Yeah, yeah. But hey, shooters shoot, right? Exactly. No matter what the circumstance. That's it, bro. That's just, what's a rib cage amongst friends, you know?

The Paris catacombs refers to a vast underground network beneath Paris, consisting of approximately 200 miles of tunnels and passageways. While these tunnels originally function as limestone quarries, dating back to the 13th century, they were repurposed in the late 1700s as an ossuary. a final resting place eventually holding their bones of more than 6 million Parisians

That's unbelievable man And there's really crazy structures down there So like they'll have like ritual rooms They'll be like literal thrones Made of human bones Down there there's like all these things They call the bone rooms that are just stacked Super high of like towers of different bones

It's like the most insane thing you've ever seen Like trying to conceptualize Seeing like a dead human Now see six million of them And they're all stacked in weird forms and there's like baptismal rooms and things like that. That's the bone throne. What?

Yeah. That's a shitter? I mean. Well, hopefully not. It'd be crazy if it was, right? Bro, you know someone's tried, for sure. Oh, definitely, dude. I've never had stayed right out the back, but I think I'd have it on that.

Oh, God. What was the cause of all the deaths? So a lot of it was just people that were dead above. in the cemeteries. Mainly from the plague. Yeah, from the plague and also Paris was just like a very popular city obviously

and so like over time as it got like more and more people they don't have enough room for the dead and so they would just bring a lot of like people like dead bodies down and just dump them in the tunnels. Oh yeah. There's nothing tackier than a dead dude

when you're trying to have like a night especially like on the Champsilise or something like that. Nothing's more tacky looking than some dead ass dude while you're trying to have like beautiful outfits and shit. While you just throw them down Like leave them in the tunnel

Get them out of this beautiful city Alright let's stick them underneath Yeah it's like just putting something under the rug really For real Paris's rug It's crazy And there was not only just like paranormal danger there That we like encountered

But also like extreme claustrophobia Where we were like cave diving On like our hands and knees Essentially like waiting through waters That were freezing cold up to like our nipples And stuff like walking around Yeah imagine getting frozen nips And two miles in the catacom

Yeah, literally. And then we're talking to ghosts. And then I think the scariest of at all, actually, is the fact that there are known gangs that, like, roam around in the Paris catacombs that actively try to steal from tourists because they know it's so popular for people to try to go out there and film

and, like, take things down there. And so if you get close, which actually, again, like we know a couple buddies that have had this happened to them, they'll be, they'll come and just jump you. Just take all your stuff and walk around. Like, there's people that know the catacombs like the back of their hands. hands. And so when they encounter a tourist, they're like, oh, I got you. Like, I'll just take all

your equipment and, like, make you run, which is terrifying. And what are you going to do, grab a femur and beat somebody? Like, it would be almost be scary. It would be a weird spot to even to fit. It would all feel so surreal if somebody's rocking you. Exactly. If they turn off your light, you're done. Like, you can't see this far ahead. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we went to some other catacombs. And that was really, this is in Ukraine. So, okay, not Paris. But yeah, basically like that all all around the paris catacombs

and so that was part of one of the demonic places you guys checked out yeah yeah yeah got it so it was one of the four episodes of hell month but it was like really surreal

because that was the closest we'd ever really been to like dead bodies and not to mention we got lost down there so like we had our guide that we had just met

shadow Gasparred and Gaspar what an incredible name we were like there's no way this guy's gonna leave us his name's Gaspar

we have to find our way out of here but yeah we were like super super late like we were only supposed to be down there for like seven eight hours something like that and um we were like in our last investigation realized like the time was up and then it took us like another hour to maybe yeah to find like the exit because we would go to like where gaspard thought there was going to be like an uh exit to like a manhole and the police would actively like seal it up with cement it was scary yeah so three different uh three different exits we thought were exits, and they're all closed off. And so we were like, oh, my God.

Not only are we now like two hours late, all the people that we told to like worry about us are now worried about us, but we actually don't know where to get out. So we had to go all the way back to our original entrance. And it took so long and everyone was like calling us. We like came out and there's no service down there to a bunch of texts being, are you dead? Yeah, zero. It's so terrifying. Gaspar. But he led us to safety.

Let's go. It was good. The name Gaspar is of French and Parisian origin. It means bringer of treasure or treasurer. Oh, he brought some treasure. Yeah, we treasured him a lot. Gaspard. That is a good name.

Yeah, that was actually one of the more crazy investigations. So we used this thing called, or honestly, we actually just use a voice recorder. So it's like a serotypical voice recorder, but there was one rendition of this Japanese voice recorder that they actually recalled back in the 70s because they kept getting other voices and when they were like play back the voice recording like they'd you know talk a sentence but then they'd get a couple other voices and sentences in it and they're like oh this must be weird but then like later on people are like wait no these are legit other people talking in a room that nobody else is in so now we use this as like basically goes equipment and we can record on this voice recorder

and ask a question and play it back and there's actual conversations coming back and to us that are not in the room and it's thought that these voice recorders can pick up frequencies that the human ear can't hear and so it's a literal way to have a conversation and so we will ask someone like we'll ask a spirit like you know hey like what are you doing here or something like that or like in this specific sense we asked like are you dead or alive just to see if it would fuck with us and it literally said i'm alive back very clear like super clear it was one of the craziest things ever heard. And again, that's why we bring guests that have never experienced this before so that they can like see this for the first time. And so like everybody was mind

blown. Like imagine you're sitting there underground next to thousands of skeletons and you ask to a voice recorder, are you dead or alive? You wait. You play it back. There is a new voice that wasn't there saying I'm alive. And you're like, what? Crazy. That's a bar, dude. It's a bar. It's a bar, fuck, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a skeletal Drake. We ran the fuck out of there. We're like, all right, well, this is actually terrifying. That's heavy, dude. It was crazy.

Has there been an experience that hit you more emotionally than other experiences? Dude. Yeah, not to go back to the same, uh, video we were just talking about, but also during Hell Month, this month, uh, we did the Pendle Hill. And Sam had mentioned that we were really trying to push the bar. and talk to the actual devil himself. And earlier I had mentioned, like, I'm Christian. And so that was something that I was just like, no.

Like, I always feel like I'm overstepping the line, like being involved in the paranormal as a Christian as it is, being involved in like occult magic and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I feel that. Which is hard. It's like a mental battle for me. But at the same time, like when our team first decided or came up with the idea of like, maybe we can like invite a witch to some of the devil.

I was like, guys, like this is where I have to draw the line. lime for like my, which sounds like, like, duh, you would want to do that. Yeah. And he did. And he did. But no, but it's also interesting if you, sometimes if you want to talk to, you know, sometimes you got to talk to this person to talk to that person, you know. Exactly. But, um, but was that, but sorry, I stepped on you. What were you saying? Oh, it's all good. It was just like, and we show it in the video as well, but like, I basically pull Sam, uh, to the side right before he's about to do this like ritual, I guess you could say. Um, and I had like a deep conversation with him where I was like nearly in tears talking to him about like, dude, like we're making like YouTube videos. Like this is beyond that. Like you are like meddling into some stuff that like I know you don't personally believe in. But this has like everything to do like with my faith. And I deeply believe in this. Yeah, Sam's gone too far. Yeah, for real. And I was just like, be careful.

We're like, yeah, fuck Sam. Actually, comment down below. So why are you doing that, man? Sorry, no, let's hash it out here, man. No, it was interesting. Like, jokes aside, it's been... And where was that at, sorry? Pendle Hill. That was in the Middle Hill.

That was in the UK. I could see that, man. I could see that because you, you know, it's almost just like, like, if you say enough bad stuff, it's like you become, you become what you do, you know, it's like it's, I could see that when you, there's a reason why people probably don't do it that much. Exactly. Exactly. Especially religious people like me. But like, again, I am more so just like spreading hope to people. And that's kind of how like I mentally cope with what I do for a living. But like, again, when it has to like delve into like hellish things like literally talking to Satan, the devil himself, I was like, you know what? I'm good on that one. I'll just film like in the corner. Yeah. Maybe talk to Satan's secretary or whatever. I'll need the big dog in here. Exactly. But do you ever see any ghosts like that are like hot chicks or like or is it? any ghosts that are like yurking off or whatever like there's some prostitutes out there yeah yeah

yeah i feel like ghosts are always just kind of fucking doing like trap shit i don't feel like any of them are like or any of them ever being sexy i wonder or what are ghosts doing the most i wonder hmm probably gooning behind the scenes nobody can see them you know yeah if you're invisible what are you doing you know if i're invisible dude i'd be freaking spraying bro for sure dude i've already got a problem and i'm fully visible no one's safe dude yeah nobody's saved you once I'm a ghost bro

just wow bro no but you gotta think yeah like what are they doing because they once I'm a ghost everything's all grotting homie you feel me exactly I'm spraying cheese dog type shit boys after everybody will know too

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And actually, one of the presidents went to that location just to see the demons and confirmed that it was haunted. So I don't know if that's like the government getting behind paranormal, but they have acknowledged things like that. Wow. I can read this case here. Yeah, this one's really interesting. The only widely cited case in which a death was officially attributed to paranormal causes

is the Bell Witch haunting in Adams, Tennessee. Specifically, the 1820 death of John Bell, Sr. John Bell, dude, and I think he's also the lead singer for widespread panic as well. Love him. He's had many lives. Yeah, he's had many lives, dude. According to numerous sources, John Bell's death was attributed by his family and several contemporaries to the Bell Witch,

a supernatural entity that tormented the Bell family beginning in 1817. The case is notable because Tennessee is reported, to have recognized John Bell's death as caused by this supernatural, making it unique in American legal and folklore history. Yeah, I think this is the only cited death that is recognized as paranormal. Wow. Most people are thinking, most people think like, hey, you know, no one's died because it's paranormal.

No one gets hurt. But there's a lot of people that get hurt, and there is this one death that people have said. And I think this is the case as well that a, president at the time went to this location too. John Bell's phenomenon grew so, and this is on perplexity, the phenomenon grew so intense that John Bell developed a mysterious illness, and after finding a strange vial of black liquid next to his bed,

oh, that would trip me out. If I even find a girl's gum next to my bed, I can't even sleep good. His son tested it on a cat, which died suddenly, the Bell witch allegedly claimed credit for poisoning John Bell, who died on December 20th, 1820. why would the kid give it to the cat like oh here's some black tar liquid like kitty kitty kitty kitty

come here that's the most kid shit ever it's like oh fuck this cat see if he dies too he's like I miss my dad but fuck this cat the U.S. president who was most famously associated with a visit to the bell witch cave was Andrew Jackson as a general

and later as president Jackson reportedly visited the Bell family property in Adams Tennessee during the height of the bell witch disturbances. According to legend and multiple historical accounts, Jackson and his entourage experience unexplained phenomena and chose to leave early with Jackson famously quoted as saying

he would rather face the entire British Army and spend another night with the Bell Witch. Isn't that crazy? Andrew Jackson. Bro, Ajack couldn't handle that broad. And he's credible too. It's not just some random like homeless guy they brought over like to assess the situation.

Like they brought the president who was like dude, I'm not doing that over again. Dude, it's crazy. This guy wasn't taking DMD, you know? Yeah, yeah, this is a credit. This guy had a sword. He's like, I can't do shit, you guys. Right, boy.

Dude, that's wild, though. Right. It makes me think about, it makes me think about how, like, over the years, like, schizophrenia and these different things, like, we've, like, we've given a lot of things a scientific term now, also to make them marketable to medicine. But you don't think about how many of those things could just be also spiritual in nature. You know, I'm not saying that schizophrenia is spiritual in nature, even though I'm sure the spirit is heavily affected. But you just don't know. You don't know what something could

have happened in a past life that's now come through and is affecting a spirit in this life or affecting someone in this life. And it's a, and it's just looked at these days as a semi-common disease that we have, but it's something that's far greater than that or was used to be deemed that way, you know. So true. Yeah. It's pretty wild. Depends on what you believe, exactly. Yeah. it did seem more fun back then to believe in stuff too I think because more people were believing things now a lot of our beliefs just like are looking to our phone and before our beliefs used to like go into the air

you know it is really sad I feel like yeah we're like facing a really secular time of like everyone's just like ah like if I don't see it on chat to PT then I'm not gonna believe it type of thing but no one's like you said like believing and like putting themselves out there to actually experience these things because at the end of the day it's so much harder to believe anything online, like anything over a, you know, a video. I wouldn't believe a ghost video from 10 years ago before I started this. And then I only started believing because I physically experienced it myself

in person. So I fully like, you know, empathize with all the people that are online watching our videos being like, that's cool and all that you guys do this, but I can't believe it until I see it, you know. So I would encourage a lot of people who are like into this type of thing to actually, you know, go and experience these things or put yourself out there and try. Just like with faith. it's like if you just try to take someone's word for it you know whatever but if you were to go to church and actually read these things and like go for it and really put yourself in there then you might find god oh i'll notice the more i pray the more when i walk into certain rooms or whatever i can feel like my knees almost tingle a bit like i want to hit them right like i want to hit you know i want to hit

my knees right there and pray right and it becomes sort of a practice like yeah for sure whatever you practice and lean into becomes more of of you you know and we probably you used to be more connected to the spirit realm overall. You know, I'm sure, like, Native Americans, especially were so connected to it and, like, really lived by it and had a real, like, I bet they had, like, a real, like, gigahertz connection with, like, a, you know what I'm saying?

For sure. Also, you had time to think. Now it's, like, the second that you go and take a shit, you're just, like, swiping TikTok or something. It's, like, not like, you have a single moment away from distraction and entertainment. You don't have any second to wonder. I know, yeah.

But, you know, I know. It's crazy not to have a second to wonder when we're part of something that's so wondrous. It's like, it's almost baffling, dude. We'll get to the end of our lives and one of our last thoughts will be like, I was looking at my phone the whole time. The entire, oh, that's a sad thought right there. I was just looking at my phone the whole time.

Damn. Look up from the screens. I'll literally won't even believe I'm dead until I check my phone. Did I send that email? Because you're dying. Swear it again. Let me tap right back in here just to finish this. The U.S. government has not officially acknowledged the existence of ghosts as real supernatural

entities, but there have been legal and cultural instances where haunted properties or ghost stories were referenced because of their impact on property value or cultural significance. Yeah, there's actually a lot of like movies and stuff, obviously, that are based on, like, real-life hauntings and things like that. Like, things happen so crazily, like, over. decades are like families get traumatized to the point that they become movies and what's awesome as you see especially the recent ones that are happening in the last couple decades there's so much documentation of them that it's really crazy to back things up and see these stories and people sometimes have video evidence or audio evidence of like people getting possessed and

things like that and so it's really really cool when we get to like go to places like that like for example i don't know if you just recently saw the conjuring video or the mural house or the The Smurl House. The Smurl House? Sorry, yeah. Yeah, so the Smurl House Conjuring movie just came out. It's called Last Rites.

And that was based on the Smurl House. But that was one of the cases that the most famous demonologist ever, Ed and Lorraine Warren, investigated. And there was a demonic entity that was literally, like, petrifying this family for 13 years.

They described this demonic entity as, like, an eight-foot-tall lizard man with, like, red eyes and scaly, like, scales, I guess you could say, that would physically assault, physically assault Jack and Janet Smurrell, who were the parents, and, like, lift them up from their beds and chuck them against the wall. Holy shit, dude. And they don't have an HOA or anything?

Exactly, right? Kick this guy out. That's crazy. Call the plumber. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Dude, but I believe something like this could happen. The Smurlhouse haunting refers to a series of widely publicized claims of paranormal activity.

you guys tell us about I don't need to read this what else do you guys know about it oh it says here the family's German Sheppel was reportedly levitated and slammed into a wall Yeah even the dog was attacked But every single member of the family was attacked And we're talking like they would be picked up

And thrown against the wall Like to the point of like the wife Like broke bones because of the spirit Like the little girl in the family was thrown down the staircase A ceiling fan flew off the ceiling and smacked one of the little girls and almost killed her as well.

There were sexual assaults. It was like the ghost word like physically and sexually assaulting the whole family. That's the gotta be the worst because what if your parents come home? It looks like you're jerking off or whatever or you're sitting there just, you know.

Experiencing something. Yeah, experiencing something with yourself that you caused. You'reicking off. But you're not even doing it. It's not. It's literally like this is a demon. And your mom,

my mom would still get pissed at me. My mom would have been. I mean on me. It's a demon. I'm not even looking at it. Yeah, I can't help this. But dude, that's how to be so... How did they come and go in their home?

Did you guys go there? Well, like, the Smurlhouse, we were the first people since the demonologist, Edelor and Warren, like, were the first people to investigate it since then 40 years ago. So it was really, really, like,

a cool experience to be able to go in there and, like, understand, like, what was the haunting? Like, what would actually happen there. And there's two conjuring houses. There's one that's really famous in Rhode Island, which is the videos that are being played right now.

And then there's this one that we haven't released yet. It's coming out for our finale of Hell Month. And yeah, nobody has been there besides Edmund Warren, like 40 years ago, 50 years ago, yeah. And did it feel different? Did it come at a different time? Did it start differently? Like, how do you ease into like a new place that has a haunting, right? That has an energy like that.

Like, do you approach it differently on the way there? Like, do you bring certain things? with you to set up an atmosphere, like, do you bring an altar? Like, what do you, like, is there some sort of like, um, precursor to your approach? Definitely. I mean, especially something like that that hasn't been investigated for so long. And actually at the time, 40 years ago, it was believed that in Lorraine Warren, like, brought in, you know, a priest and they didn't like an exorcism and got rid of the demons. So like, theoretically, this place hasn't really been haunted for the last 40 years. It's just been a regular family home.

So when you go back into there, it's mainly like the shell. of the home of said spirit. And so in order to make sure we were able to, like, contact the same person, we brought in a witch or a priestess. She's our friend. She actually, like, has helped us with a lot of these types of things and teaching us about the occult. And she brought in a spirit board, which is pretty much like a good Ouija board.

It's not like one of those Hasbro ones you've got at Target. It's like a real deal. Like home. One of woodpecker would like. Definitely. Like homemade, all that stuff. she does she actually helped with a full on like summoning ritual and that like brought in the spirits around um and we were able to talk to this thing like on a Ouija board and what's absolutely crazy about that is like I never really believed in Ouija boards I just thought you know it was fun gimmick like you know especially the the ones at Target you know because whatever but when you do it correctly like with a witch it is the most insane experience you've ever had you put your fingers on this plan and I don't know if you've ever seen a Ouija board

but there's a bunch of letters and numbers all over this board and it said that you know you move this this planchette around and it spells things out but the feeling is so unlike anything you've ever felt before where the wood gets pulled out

from underneath your fingertips is literally you can feel a different presence pulling you and directions like a magnet almost of sorts a magnetism we never believed in the Ouija board until doing it like correctly with professional pithian priestess and like i remember the first time we did it with her like off camera we were like did you do that he was like no like you definitely did that

and we're like hell no because like our fingers were going like it was crazy and it wasn't like a little slow thing it was like sometimes like yanking to like yes or no or all around the board like what is happening i don't i can't believe this it's it's out of this world well especially if there's like priestess what's your number or whatever that's definitely that's holy exactly But that's funny, like, to that point, though, like, we'd ask questions, especially the first time we did it, we'd be like, uh, the first time we ever did that, the first conjuring house, we asked the spirit like, yo, do you like us? I was like, no. It was like, what do you want from us? And it was like, go away. It was like, leave me and give me my peace pretty much. And I was like, damn, okay, they don't fuck with us. Which happens, which happens. Because honestly, like, spirits are just like people like in real life. Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, if, if there's like a bad person you meet in real life, there's probably going to be a bad person in. the afterlife. That doesn't mean they're like a demonic thing, but like, yeah, you'll run into

like bad apple sort of people all the time that just don't want to talk to you or anything, which is understandable. Yeah, that's wild. You kids, yeah, it could just be somebody who's just chilling, somebody's having lunch or whatever, and you guys are bothering them or something. They're like, shut up, dude. Some of them do have Ouichibor, and they're like, fuck off. Like, you can't leave. It's like, you're like calling out, like, you know, cold calling somebody and like, God, just shut up. I don't want to talk right now. Or they're like, I'm gay or whatever. You're like, well, it doesn't matter. What?

You're welcome here either way. You're safe with us, guys. Yeah, dude. Like, a long time ago, people cared about that, but that's totally normal now, dude. This is just emotional experience. He's like, really? Some ghost has been waiting forever to come out of the closet, and he finally gets it through a Ouija board.

You're like, dude, nobody cares to him more. Everybody John is gay. Yeah, dude. He's like, all right, thank you guys. 70% of people are gay, dude. Chill, bro. Chill. But, dude, what was crazy about this, like, recent?

experience with the spirit board at the squirrel house. And this was at the smorlhouse and this was where the conjuring last rights movie. Okay got it. Where they filmed it at. Where it allegedly happened at. Yeah, based on the true story. Based on the true story. They filmed out a replica of this place. Got it. And it's this tiny duplex. Had this been messed with before? Did it look the same as when back then? Oh, I mean, your family had lived there. Yeah, like if you look at the old tapes from Ed and Lorraine Warren, the demonologist that helped try to save this house, you'll see like exactly the same layout and everything. Like it looks like it did 40 years

ago. Wow. It's really. So some of these places, it's like going back in time too. Definitely. Yeah, time capsules. Yeah, we were doing the spirit board session in the living room of this duplex. And again, like imagine just like a regular house. Like there was literally cheeses like on like the counter and stuff like

that. Like, yeah, somebody lived there. And we uncovered the craziest evidence about the Smurl family that could actually get us in trouble. No joke. And so like when this comes out like in in on Halloween dude it's going to cause like an uproar and like the paranormal community of things be crazy that's what I'm talking yes sir dude I'm wonder if there's like an apparent like a bus stop that had like a crazy at like a lot of people I'm just trying

to think of neat places that aren't like kind of like um that aren't uh like a building or something where where you could investigate also have there been places like that yeah I mean um where there's not like an ediff like an entity like a building like a yeah I mean like to that point you would think that everywhere could be potentially haunted right like it's it doesn't have to be a location it's just maybe places that our location have more energy or they were a home in a past life and so it's like more likely like you said maybe a bus stop or maybe you know like a favorite area to play is like on a playground or something like that as a kid you don't know and maybe something has a deeper meaning or connection to a human, and that could be haunted as well. Yeah, there's a lot of times, like, we'll go to a spot, and it's not, like, haunted by something like evil or scary, but sometimes there was, you know, like a big, like, like, for example, we own a spot called Farrar Elementary in Iowa, and it used to be like, Farrar Elementary. For our elementary.

It's a school, it's a real school? Real school. It's y'all, you guys own it? We own it. We're principals. Oh, yeah, dude. I hope the spirits and the students there. And is it functional?

It's functional for, like, ghost hunting tool. Oh, okay. It closed down, like, I don't know, like, like, a couple of decades over. Yeah, it's not like we're teachers. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, we own the school. But it used to be a hub, like, what, like 100 years ago where, like, a lot of people would just go there and party. So all the spirits there are a lot of the spirits there just, like, hang around because it was a cool spot in life.

It was the, like, center of the town. So not only was in an elementary school at the time, but it was also where people, like, got married. It's also where people had dances. They had basketball games. They had everything at this, like, one area. And so a lot of the spirits there are like really nice. So it's cool. And even like outside of this area, like even in the woods or the playground,

there's also going to be like haunted locations. Crazy. It's interesting to think about how I show up to places and then what I want out of them, whether that place is an actual building, you know, or if it's a to show up to spirits, whatever you want, you know. It's just about like how I show up and what do I want. Right. You know, that could be if I'm going to get an education.

If I'm going to summon an entity, it could be anything, you know, if I'm going to have a relationship with somebody, you know. So true. Dude, I freaking texted this girl today, dude. I'm afraid to look at my phone because I don't know if you're texting back, dude. Yeah. Is that it? What was the opening line? Can you spill? yeah i like i got i i i matter the other night and i felt like we like had some chemistry right like i felt like there was something there cool you know when you feel like there's something there yeah you know you know when you meet someone you feel like there's something there right because you meet a lot of people there's nothing there sometimes you pretend there's something there something you have two drinks and pretend there's something there it's like right the two drinks can create something there yeah those are those and those are not real that's just you making

your own emmfs right yeah but uh but i felt like like there was something there so I got her number and then I sent her a text today I said hey my buddy was thinking about asking you out also my buddy is me oh she's gonna fucking say no dude fuck where's your confidence level on here one to 10 like you think you feel good about this no shit it'll be all right it'll be all right you know you're gonna respond I don't know but I was screaming after with like was an entity in me of like that always got rid that is just constantly rejected that energy was fucking summoning like the most rejection in the world but anyway you gotta summon that

positivity you know yeah you're right i got to change that up a little bit what are some of the most haunted places in america have you do is there even a map that shows that i'm sure you guys know this oh yeah there's a bunch that are like really cool so um what's the most haunted state do you know it probably on the east coast somewhere yeah east coast is like you got to think it's just way older you know so like way more history has happened in there but yeah

there's a couple that are like really really cool so obviously the conjuring house that we talked about is a massive place in Rhode Island there's a couple of really really cool spots like the Winchester mystery house I don't know if you ever heard of that there is a house in San Jose California that has like

130 rooms or something like that it's insane it was built for like almost a century purely to try to like you know like have you ever heard of a Winchester rifles yeah at all so is that that family like owned this estate

yeah and it's believed that actually this has become like some sort of hub for spirits like there's so many rooms and it's so like known to be haunted that people bring spirits they like drop their spirits off here it's almost like a grand central station for spirits now and yeah this is definitely

one of the most haunted places in America. Like the Hogwarts train station kind of. Yeah. Exactly. That's so cool. You guys went there? Yeah. A couple times. It's really crazy. I mean, even if you don't believe in ghosts, it's one of the coolest things in the United States. It's pretty magnificent, huh? Yeah. And where is that located? San Jose. California. Oh, interesting. And it's crazy because like all, none of the architecture makes sense.

It's like there will be three steps up to a floor and then seven steps down to another floor or like staircases that lead to nowhere or like staircases that lead to nowhere or like a door that if you open on the second floor will just drop you down and you'll fall off like there's no patio or anything it's like the most bizarre thing you've ever seen and it's pretty it's pretty spectacular wow it's crazy there's things like that or like uh on the other side of the united states there's this thing called the trans allegheny lunatic asylum and it's like the second biggest asylum like ever made or something and there's like hundreds of rooms about people that used to get lobotomies and so it's a pretty tortured spot. It's one of the creepiest places we've ever been. Wow, that place looks

magnificent. It almost looks like University of Syracuse. It's as big as a university. And that building right there is only one of like 20 on the property. It's a historic former psychiatric hospital located in Weston, West Virginia, best known for its haunting atmosphere, architectural significance, and role in the history of mental health care in the U.S. The asylum originally followed the Kirk Bride Plan, a psychiatric hospital design emphasizing space, light, and therapeutic architecture. Many patients were admitted for reasons now considered unscientific, such as asthma, laziness, and domestic troubles.

If you beat your wife, like, you could go to this asylum. Even if you tickle her hard, if she's sensitive. Dude, people would get admitted, like husbands would drop their wives over there if they were like reading a bad book or something it was bad like pretty much you could just leave your wife to die type of thing um but yeah in that specific location in the asylum was one of our crazy experience experiences ever we were just asking out to see if anything could you know do a knock or give us a sign or whatever and between colby and i we heard like a pretty scary old man voice say the word lily like in our ears and it was like what and apparently like

Like, yeah, we asked around. And Lily is a spirit that is known to be like a child figure that's actually more of like this darker entity. But like we heard it with our ears and there was like three other people that were around that also like vouched for us. Then we're like, wait, no, there was another voice that was not in between you two that talked. And the camera caught it. So it's on camera. But the recorder that we were using asking questions didn't. So it makes no sense that like the voice could only show up.

on one thing. Unless the hertz of it or something was a certain is it called Hertz? What is it

called? Yeah. The frequency. Yeah, unless the frequency of it, the audio frequency of it was a certain

pitch or pentamer or something. I believe there's so many different like frequencies that we just do not have the ability to calculate.

Yeah. Hearing or seeing like you just look at this color scale of what I can see and it's just nothing. It's like, I don't know,

like 10% of the actual I don't know whatever you look at it. Yeah, we only have five. Senses, dude. Yeah. And they're great.

I'm not saying anything, God. They're good. But I'm also saying, dude, what if we had like 40 cents and we're pulling in all that information? Yeah. Who knows? Maybe we will one day when we die. What's one last thing we could go in that would be good for you guys?

You guys think that's interesting. Oh, maybe what would make you stay around to be a ghost? That's so funny. Honestly, if Sam still had the YouTube channel and I passed away, I would just like make that shit viral as hell like a piece. following him to every, like, every haunted place and just shove them down the stairs. It's just, like, torment me. But I'm like, hell yeah, this is the craziest video.

Like, Colby, are you here? And you just fall down a flat of stairs. Slap me in the face. Oh, he's here, guys. Bro, I want to levitate. So, dude, if you could do that, it would great. Dude, thank you. Thank you guys so much, man.

This has been awesome, dude. Yeah, appreciate you. This is awesome. It's been cool. It's been good to get to meet you guys and just, like, you know, hoping to stay in touch or something, you know, this has just been fun. And I needed something that was just a good conversation. you know, so thank you.

Yeah, I love how open you are about this. I mean, a lot of people like, ah, the ghosts, whatever, that's not real. But I feel like you get the mindset that we're going to with it. Whether or not you believe in it or not, like I like the mindset. Yeah, I think, well, I think it surprised me, you know, because Dave Attela is one of my favorite jokes. He's like, I was watching, and I'm paraphrasing it, but he's like, I was watching ghost hunters the other day. It involves two of my favorite things, wandering around aimlessly and sheer disappointment.

It's so funny. And I've always loved that joke. It's so good, right? That's hilarious. I never had thought of it in the sense of like, I want something to be here, right? I want something to be here. And I've been thinking about stuff like that in my life recently, just like meeting God halfway, meeting the spirits halfway that are out there.

Like, how can I show up to receive the best things that are out there waiting for me, you know? And that would also kind of translate to real life too, like whether that's spiritual or like, like you said, show up to your next like friend gathering or your family or like your relationship like putting in that effort to get what you want out of it yeah right like sometimes i want my holidays to be great and i'll just think that somebody else is going to make them great like i go there i go in the living room i yell about a casserole or something you know what i'm saying it shows up that thing i talk shit and i take a nap then i eat a nap and then i leave and i'm like god i wish our family had connected better like fuck that casserole by the way but it's like that's what i brought to

to it, you know, but I'm still expecting this other thing. So I think, um, just having a whole other way to look at that. And then to ask, like, if I wanted to like my father's passed away, everybody has family members that have passed away, but to say, hey, dad, I'm thinking about you today. Yeah. Share with me what you're thinking, you know. Think with me, feel with me. I want to feel your feelings today or I want to know you love me today. Like, not be afraid to speak out. Like we have this voice in this thing, like when we open our hands up to the world, to the sky, universe, you feel something, right? That's not mythological.

And so I think that this is just a great reminder. Before you guys go, is there a goat of ghost hunting? Is there a, is there someone, like, who was the first ghost hunter? Like, is there a goat? Probably Ed and Lorraine Warren are like the goats. They're more demonologists, though, if you want to get technical about it. Also, Zach Begans is our king. Dude, Zach Vagans is our father, dude.

Zach Vagans? Zach Begans. Have you ever heard of him? He has this crazy museum out in Vegas, I really recommend going to. He is the father of paranormal. He does TV, ghost adventures, if you've seen that show. Like, the ghosts are scared of him, you know? Like, obviously.

Macho dude, tall, strong. He's like the kid rock of ghosts kind of. What are you talking about? Everybody loves him. Well, uh... Maybe just me. Dude, yeah, if you have, if you ever, go to Vegas you should go to his museum he's actually like really sick not going to lie uh he has a

bunch of like haunted objects and we actually got to hold some of the most like haunted dolls in the world um here which is like really really crazy yeah there's something special that people about collect collect these things and put these types of situations together yeah um happy early Halloween guys yeah happy Halloween it's an exciting time it's always been my favorite holiday same by far it's the best You know, only done for the spooky stuff, but also just, like, dressing up. I feel like the vibes are happier now. Yeah, it's kind of the only time people even go talk to their neighbors anymore is you'll run over there. Vag over candy.

Poison candy. Exactly. Give me some candy. People don't even know their neighbors, but now they will send their kids. They'll send a kid covered in a sheet, right, with two eye holes that are barely running right through traffic just to go get a baby snicker. It's a beautiful season. It really is. It's a great time.

It's a beautiful season, man. For sure. Happy Halloween. Sam and Colby, you guys' Hell Week will be out over the next month. And those episodes are coming out, and people can tap into what's going on with you guys. Yeah, thanks for just all the years of entertainment to your commitment to it. I'm sure it's been challenging in certain moments, and we didn't get to talk about some of that kind of stuff, dude. But, yeah, this is just awesome, man. I really appreciate y'all's time.

And, yeah, I'll keep in mind if there's something that I feel that's a little bit haunted that I want to get back to, you know. Let us know. Sounds good, man. I wish we could travel into our past and deal with a spirit there. I wonder if there's a way to kind of like... There's a lot of like past life regression talk that like people kind of see themselves in past lives and like, yeah, or be haunted in past lives type of thing, which is really interesting. But hold another story for another time. Amen, brother.

You guys have a good one. Yeah, thank you, man. Yeah, thanks. Now, I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones

But it's gonna tell you