This Past Weekend - #650 - Jake Paul
Episode Date: April 5, 2026Jake Paul is a professional boxer, entrepreneur and content mogul. His promotion MVP will host its first ever MMA card live on Netflix May 16th. Jake joins Theo to talk about how his family has navig...ated their unique fame, his reaction to the callout from Nate Diaz, and why he thinks comedy will save America. Jake Paul: https://www.instagram.com/jakepaul/ ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo Prize Picks: Go to https://link.prizepicks.com/LME0/THEO and use code THEO to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Play Responsibly. Moonpay: Head over to https://www.moonpay.com/theo to sign up IQBar: Text THEO to 64000 to get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. American Giant: Go to http://american-giant.com and use code THEO for 20% off your first order. Valor Recovery: To learn more about Valor Recovery please visit them at https://valorrecoverycoaching.com/ or email them at admin@valorrecoverycoaching.com ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/ Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today's guest is a Renaissance man.
He's a content creator, an entrepreneur.
He's a professional boxer.
And he has political aspirations, possibly.
We'll find out.
This is my first time getting to sit down with him and really have a talk.
So I'm grateful for that.
Today's guest is the problem child, Jake.
Paul.
It's a procreate name for everybody.
Can you believe that anybody make a kid?
That's wild.
I think it's a massive problem.
Just like anyone could have a kid.
It is crazy, bro.
Like, when I look at people, I'm like,
yo, what the fuck is this guy doing?
He's got a fucking kid.
He's going to raise this kid.
The kid's going to be worse.
Well, we'll talk about Logan after a while, dude.
but I'm talking about just in general.
I'm just joking, Logan.
But I'm talking just about it in general, dude.
Yeah, the fact that they don't put birth control in the Suboxin, first of all,
or something like methadone with birth control, you think.
And if you don't finish school, you shouldn't get more than one kid, I don't think.
There should be like a certificate that you got to fill out some paperwork first to get a kid, bro.
To be honest, you got to pass an eye.
Q test honestly or some shit like that.
Even a low IQ test would be good.
These people. And by the
way, it's like the movie Idiocracy,
which by the way is like fully coming
to life. Yeah. You mean
the historical drama idiocrycy? Yeah.
I mean, yeah, I agree. It was like
it used to be a comedy movie, but now it's like
It's art now. Yeah.
It's like, oh my God.
We're here.
Yeah. Like, and by the way
Brondo, like the electrolyte drink in it, is like prime.
It has electrolytes.
Bring up Brondo, that's hilarious.
Dude, bro.
Bring up a clip from that, yeah.
Bro, look at the president with the machine gun.
This looks fucking good.
The brondo's not working.
Now, I'm no botanist, but I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow.
Well, I've never seen no plants grow out of no toilet.
That's good.
Yeah, this is where we are.
Literally.
Yeah, that's a prime business meeting right there.
Or that's no, I'm joking.
But that, yeah, it's where we are.
And by the way, we're Celsius partners.
Yeah.
We love Celsius.
Are you Celsius partner?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Me and you both.
I'll have a little.
I gave a little to my buddy's cat the other day.
Yeah.
How did it do?
He likes kind of the cherry cola flavor.
He didn't have a lot.
Did they like do something cooler or no?
I mean, we haven't seen him.
So this cat is really.
It's a wild cat.
He's a BLM activist.
That cat was living fit, bro.
He just disappeared.
He hit a gym like 30 miles away.
He turned into a fucking iron marathoner.
Dude, he's dating a dog now.
He's crushing it, dude.
Dude, drinks so sick.
Yeah, it's changing the
animaelic sex order, dude.
Dude, good to see you.
Dude, I saw this picture of you the other day.
See if you can pull us out.
There was a picture of a,
of a pet that we say,
speaking of pets,
that one of them looked like you.
And tell me if you think it's fair or not.
And this is, I'm not...
That's pretty good.
That one?
Yeah.
I would say that's a, that's a great compliment.
Yeah, that's...
I thought it was gonna be much worse.
I thought you were gonna show like a fucking lemur or something.
Something on his last leg or something.
I was like, I'm honored that this is...
He thought of me, bro.
Bro, because every time I look at you, I just see Joe Dirt.
So, the soil's rich.
Yeah, dude.
I do feel like Joe Dirt.
Me and Spade, I have a movie that we made that's coming out.
I'm so excited for it.
We're excited.
We're excited.
Yeah, bus boys.
So we made it ourselves and everything, so that's exciting.
Was that hard, by the way?
Did that make it harder to, like, self-fund and stuff like that?
To make the movie?
Like, what part of making it, getting it done or getting in theaters or getting it?
Yeah, theaters, I think.
Yeah, all of it.
Getting in theaters, I think people were, some people called and were like,
dude, how do you guys get it into theaters?
You know?
And so that part, I think, was kind of tough.
The tough part towards all of the spaces you have to stay involved with.
You think, like, oh, somebody else does that.
And you're like, oh, no, there's nobody else.
And so it just falls back on you.
I'm sure it's...
Yeah, are you nervous, like, for the outcome?
Because I think, you know, like, you just see a lot of movies with the biggest name.
these days with super big budgets and the you know all the people behind them and then it
flops like are you nervous about that yeah because it's public like even i've had a couple of fights
where it's like the pay-per-views weren't as good but it's private info yeah i think there's a
part of me like i'm i like to be like kind of in control of what i do right and so that's why i was
waiting to do something where it's like um we wrote it we made it's our own thing so at least in
end, I do feel like we did a good job and I got to do it with somebody really like, who's
amazing and like established in that universe. Yeah, I think it is scary because you don't want it
to affect how people think about you or feel about you. They may just not be like, I care about
seeing a movie this weekend. And it's almost to the weekend. Like nobody buys a ticket for a movie
three weeks in advance. I thought we put it out and be like, oh, it'll all sell out like a, like you,
like maybe with a comedy show.
But with a movie,
it's like you kind of have to wait till that weekend.
It's probably similar with like a pay-per-view.
No,
100%.
And we actually like base our fights around making sure there's no other big events.
Like the last fight on Netflix,
like third biggest fight ever with Joshua,
35 million viewers live.
But it was the same weekend as Avatar,
the same day.
So it plays into it.
Like would we have gotten,
5 million more viewers.
It's just something interesting to think about.
But sometimes you can't choose another date.
Yeah.
Yeah, we just, yeah, I think I'm definitely a little bit spooked about it.
I'm a little, I'm nervous about it.
I'm also kind of excited about it.
And if I think if it doesn't go great, it's okay.
It's like, you know, I hope it does because we want to be able to make more stuff
and help other people make more stuff that don't get like,
like there's no studio a test.
to it. It's like nobody told us anything we could put in or out of the script.
So it's all our own thing. So it's not woke.
Yeah. It's not woke, dude. We got an eight-year-old saying faggot in it, you know?
And I don't, you know. And he didn't mean it. Yeah. And by the way, you paid him to say it.
Yeah, that's true. So you're, you're invoking abuse. Yeah. Theo. But we paid him handsomely,
you know.
It is.
Hey, we didn't touch him.
Honestly, though.
Honestly,
we're already better than the half of them.
This is my problem with people saying the word fagg.
Yeah.
Is that, like, I would never say it.
Yeah.
Like, so it's just, like, fucked up to say that.
Oh, yeah, I don't say it.
So, but yeah, let's, uh, what else is going on?
What don't you say?
I don't say it.
I'll say it really, I will say it very fast because some,
people are wondering what I don't say and I'm not going to be and you won't even know what I'm
going to say it so that was it and I didn't even say it so and who knows I might be a
homosexual when I get older after I get married and leave my wife so and that's why you're
fucking smart because you're hedging like you're saving you're an investor you're a
thinker.
Yeah.
You're literally a renaissance, man.
Because at least you can fucking admit that you might be a f*** later in life.
Whoa, bro.
I'm not going to be some crazy...
I will be just a guy who is doing his best, who fucking is pissed off at one of his friends
and lets him fucking jerk him off one time.
I'm not going to be some guy who's holding hands and going to like a market or something.
So anyway,
now that our careers are both over
now we still got Celsius
they'll never leave us
oh dude two sips this
you'll come on your buddy's bag
um
did you see that uh
did you see that drusky skit
what you think
you know what's so funny
is that I wanted to talk about this with you
really?
Yeah
I mean this shit is crazy
when she starts doing that
what are
What are your thoughts?
I thought it's so bizarre.
It's one of his more bizarre videos.
I mean, it's hilarious, dude.
She's in this space.
I wish they'd have gone a little more into, like,
the stuff with the husband and what could have happened,
but I don't think black people, like,
mess with people's families and shit that much.
They don't go into that kind of area very much.
Yeah, I mean, Drewski's just,
you never know what he's going to do, bro.
And this sets that precedent, like,
nothing else.
I mean, look at this, bro.
This could be fucking
you were Logan in 40 years, dude.
You know what I'm saying?
And not in a bad way, dude.
Y'all look good.
Yeah, no, honestly.
Dude, this is Hall Kogan's whole family
in one picture, dude.
This is Halkin. Yeah, no, honestly,
it's fucking hilarious.
I loved it.
And I'm obviously Republican.
And, like, all the Republicans
being made.
about this shit is like a fucking L for Republicans because this is fucking hilarious and even
though it's fucking dark and twisted um and it's and it's not maybe the the it's this is what
comedy fucking is yes I agree this we're fucking humans let's make fun of ourselves and there's
truth in this yeah and and extreme truth
And people weren't ready for that.
But, but, uh, I, I think it's fucking hilarious.
And, um, I want to ask you something because I've been over the last couple of days
calling, um, makeup artists.
And I was going to do a response to this and like go and do like the full on darker.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And do it and just do it back because why not?
Yeah.
Like, are we on the same playing field?
Like, I think if you, if there's a way to do it, oh, this thing in well, this, even this sentence.
But if there's a way to do it, I've been here many times, if there's a way to do it, I think, yeah, I think there needs to be some black support for the character, I think.
Like I'm saying, like, say if Drusky or, um, I'm trying to be some black support for the character, I think, like I'm saying, like, say if, if,
trying to think of somebody else.
Charles Barkley.
Charles Barkley.
If you got one of those guys to be like, hey,
Theo, I want you to do this skit with me, let's do this.
But still, that's pussy now.
You think it is?
Yeah.
To me, there's a level of like...
Doesn't that make us more...
Like, prejudice?
Oh, like more prejudice?
That makes us, if we have to partner with someone,
Drewski just dropped this.
And he's done it a couple of times, actually.
I fucking love it.
This is great. This is how humans
should be. I agree. We should
fucking make fun of each other. And
I don't see in color, I see
in truth and comedy.
So like, what are we talking
about? So you're saying that... What era
are we living in? You know... Justin Trudeau
didn't. He's freaking dating Katie Perry.
You see that? Justin Trudeau? The mayor of
I was just with them. I was just with them. No, you were not.
Yeah, at the J.B. Morgan Summit.
He was B-Facing.
Look at him right there in the middle.
Look at the one in the head in the middle.
He had a lot off of this before.
Yeah, look how dark he went.
I mean, he went.
But to be fair, that picture is in black and white.
So we can't tell how dark he went.
That's fair.
That's kind of fair.
What about Jimmy Kimmel when he was blacking around over there?
Bring that up, huh?
Hey, hey, hey, look at him, just blacking.
I mean, look at that.
the cross-eyes.
That's Jimmy Kimmel?
Yeah.
That's not Shaq.
That ain't fucking Shaq, dude.
That looks healthier than Shaq.
There's no way that's Jimmy Kimmel.
Oh, God, bro.
And look, bro, and look, by the way.
That is Jimmy Kimmel.
Look at fucking Jimmy Kimmel.
Fucking on the left.
Untouchable.
Yeah.
What the fuck, bro?
Yeah.
How can they get away with this shit?
The shit that pisses me off
It's like
Like kids can't be black for Halloween
Dude
You know like a kid
It's his favorite athlete
He never grew up with anything
Racist and is heart or anything
Yeah and he wants to be LeBron
Yeah
The Halloween
This kid is just like
Fucking getting penetrated by
Haters
That's the problem
There's too many haters out there
But look Drewski's doing this shit
Craisest when he did
Was the one where he spit on a black guy
Out of a car
Dressed as a white guy
You see that one?
Bring up that country
I didn't see that one
He drives up
But bro
Honestly bro
No no more
This is insane
No more honesty from you dude right now
No I got a lot more
Oh
Hold on this
Look at this part right here
Yeah after this
Bro how many
Right here
Watch this
You lost both
No I'm going to race
What race
NASCAR race
You're going to NASCAR
What's it?
A little bit
You ain't lost, did you?
What the fuck is going?
Sure about that?
Okay, so this brings up the actual point of like...
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You know what? I think you're right. I think it's a good discussion. And I'm glad that you brought
it up. Because sometimes, yeah, it's like I don't even have anybody that's even semi-billed.
You're like the kind of the blackest guy we've had in here in a while. And people tell me that a lot.
Yeah, dude.
You're blacker than Logan.
That guy is white.
Yeah.
I mean, he's basically Hulk Hogan.
Oh, dude, he is probably.
I went to Hulk Hogan's funeral, which is pretty crazy.
But anyway.
Did you, uh...
Oh, dude.
At his funeral, nobody knew Jim McMahon was there.
And, uh, who's Jim McMahon?
Vince McMahon?
Vince McMahon.
And McMahon showed me his asshole one night.
He used to play for the Bears.
He showed me his asshole one night at a, yeah, his shout-out Jim.
He showed me his asshole.
He didn't even ask about it.
So how did he show you his assholes?
It was outdoors.
He was reenacting something.
And he showed me his asshole.
But he's awesome.
Honestly, the more people I meet in life and, like, I'm-
He showed me as Richard Dent, you know.
That's just an old Bears player who played at the same time,
That's just such a crazy statement.
Okay, go on.
The more people.
No, yeah, the more people I meet, the more weird.
Like, I think, yeah, like, people are fucking weird, bro.
Yeah.
And they want to show assholes.
People do.
Like, what I'm doing, bro?
It's the 11th fingerprint.
So this is the problem.
It's like I was raised right in a sense.
But, like, what?
Bro, I'm saying, I'm saying, like, the richer you get,
the less, um,
normal experiences become for you,
so you have to do something different
to feel something.
And I don't fall under that category.
But a lot of these people do.
You seem like you're trying to like
take yourself out of the files right now or something.
But dude, you got to...
I'm sure you run into some wild shit, dude.
I'm just saying...
Bro, you caught me.
You fucking caught me, bro.
You're good.
You're good.
You're good.
It's a mallet.
I think it makes you smarter.
Fuck, bro.
You caught me, bro.
That's my new character.
It's a black detective.
He figures it out.
Encyclopedia brown is fuck, dude.
You're fucking genius, bro.
No.
You caught me, bro.
Dude, you and I should not be declaring anybody a genius, bro.
We are fucking...
Wrong.
Now, you're just saying something loud.
You're just saying something definitively.
No, no.
Hey, bring up that fish that's in a wheelchair.
Have you seen that?
Bring up that wheelchair.
Somebody built a...
If you don't think you're a genius,
then you should, like, have some self-reflection.
Do you actually not think you're a genius?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
That's a big problem for yourself.
Look at this.
Look at this bitch they got.
You don't think anything's possible, dude?
Look at this bitch.
You're trying to fight that thing next?
Dude, look at that motherfucker.
This is a perfect opponent for...
me.
Wheelchair and two IQ is who I'm looking to fight.
He still has a one-fight deal with the UFC, but you got to fucking...
We'll get him out.
We'll face it out.
We'll get him out.
But this is what we're fucking living in, dude.
People can't eat and we're fucking building fish.
Wheelchairs, bro.
So anyway, and that's also...
I'm not going to lie, though.
Like...
And you know what the fish's name is, dude?
Joe Biden.
That's the craziest.
That makes sense
Why is it a fucking wheelchair?
I know.
This is comedy gold.
Like,
it's comedy gold fish,
dude,
we're fucked.
We're fucked,
dude.
This is horrible.
All we've done is lobby for fucking blackface.
This whole pod.
And nothing else, dude.
But we're going to keep it moving, man.
Do you think, um...
Okay,
let's start over.
Okay.
Do you think,
Erica Kirk had anything to do with the husband's death.
Let's switch it up.
Let's switch it up.
And that's mouthwash, you know?
But yeah, keep effing some.
Do you think?
I love Listerine, bro.
It's a fucking good stuff.
That's a new Listerine green apple.
Bro.
You're funny.
I don't know if you can ask that question.
You're pretty funny.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'll talk about a lot of things.
But I don't think I'll talk about Charlie Kirk and his.
his assassination and the sensitive details around it.
Oh, dude, I don't even want to fucking talk about it.
It's just on our list of stuff.
So, I'll keep it moving.
Some AI, you chat, GBTed what to ask Jake Paul.
And they told you this.
It was like, what will go most viral.
It said things Jake Paul could handle.
And yeah, one of them was Frisgolf.
One of them was, oh, the Tiger Woods DUI.
That was kind of crazy.
Let's talk, let's, let's, let's brush on that because people deal with addiction.
people deal with that stuff, it's something I've dealt with.
That was kind of a surprise to me.
I was kind of surprised to see that, you know?
Have you ever played golf with Tiger?
No.
No, I don't play golf.
I mean, bro, like, it's a second time thing for him, right?
Yeah, but it's been like a decade since the last time.
So it just seems like maybe he was going through a tough patch.
Yeah, it's tough, bro.
It's tough.
Did you ever struggle with anything like that?
Yeah, for sure.
For sure, for sure.
Like, especially when I was younger, there was a phase where I was just like going through a really rough time in a lot of ways in life.
Suicidal, lost a lot of money and had terrible people around me.
And so that was a time that you were what, were drinking or it was like a thing.
Because I've been in, you know, like I've been in sobriety in and out.
of sobriety over the past like 10 years it's a fucking tough road you know and you try your best i've
been in like shit for like uh sex love addiction intimacy disorder all of that shit you know i should
probably be in like a fucking wheelchair or whatever you know and that's real talk man praise god
you know no it's but but see how you're healing with it and you're sitting here today doing
great things in life and people love you and I love you and you're a genius and you're an
amazing guy and you just like worked through it but you're like honestly healing with it it goes
back to like comedy yeah that's why you're funny as fuck and make you you're making fun of
yourself and it makes it acceptable to your uh traumatized version of yourself
so yeah but um i've been in
dark places as a kid
like it's the funny like Disney star
crash out bankrupt
money money money
bad people around you
drugs alcohol party LA
girls girls girls
tip yeah and it just like it's like a fucking
cycle out there so my my biggest advice
to people is don't
fucking live in LA and like
go into that ecosystem
because I'm a product of it
but it's not
not me. I had to heal from it and like, but it, it just was going to happen that way. So,
um, no matter who goes out there, no matter who they are, it's not their fault, but like,
they become looped into that system and will end up unhappy and most likely addicted to a
bunch of shit and um yeah it's it's a it's a sad thing chasing validation i met this person at
this party i want to be famous i met this guy i took a photo with them it's just like a fucking
dead end um so um yeah i think that energy overall in society is starting to change a little
bit i think we're starting to realize that there's not like all this like collection of moments
and even items and even finances while we're here,
there's not a really, the depth of value to it isn't,
it's a kitty pool, you know?
So, so, yes, I was at the summit this past weekend in Montana,
and I was taking a piss next to Jeff Bezos.
And my dad always said to me, like, since I was a kid,
famous people put their pants on the same way.
One leg at a time.
Yeah.
And so I realized, like, bro, he's, I love him, by the way.
Really?
Is he a neat guy?
I can't even imagine what his voice sounds like.
He's just fucking, he's awesome, bro.
He, like, shaped the world, and he's going to continue to do that.
But I just realized when we were peeing next to each other, like, bro, we're just peeing next to each other.
Just my fucking, it's my homie, essentially.
But you fucking piss potting him, bro.
Yeah.
We're just like Jeffrey.
Jeffrey Bezos.
I was going to start singing it out loud, but I didn't have the confidence.
I was about to start singing his song.
And then I texted my friends like, yeah, I just pissed next to Jeffrey.
And they were like, did you grab his dick?
Like, it's just all that joke, bro.
It's just all a joke, bro.
Did you fucking same day deliver that cock?
You feel me?
I'm saying, bro.
How prime was it?
Like, but, bro, like, it.
the end of the day.
Yeah, was it Logan or was it KSI?
That's just a further on the prime joke.
But I got it.
Thanks, dude.
I remember one time I pissed next to fucking kid rock, dude.
And I was like, fuck, I thought I'd made it, dude.
That's what I mean.
But it's also funny to like these people like that are so in the media.
And I like find myself in this, in this category often.
like people think they know me they have so many ideas about who I am or what I am
but like bro at the end of the day we're all fucking humans and like seeing these people like eat
like even just seeing Jeff Bezos eat was just like funny it's like yeah okay yeah or watching
him whisper to somebody yeah yeah exactly like he has to whisper he has to eat bro he's just one of us
yeah like he's just the guy's guy yeah but does he seem like a guy's guy kind of
For sure, yeah.
He seems super cool.
Somebody said he seems kind of Asian.
One of my buddies met him a couple times.
He said he seems kind of Asian.
Did he seem like that to you?
At all?
Not fully.
Or not, yeah, yeah.
So I couldn't tell when he was peeing, like, how tight he had to grip it.
Oh, yeah.
If he had a headlamp on.
So, yeah.
I don't know, dude.
That's great.
Crazy, bro.
I don't know.
That's the only way I could tell if he was Asian.
He's like, he's like 5-8, 5-9.
Okay.
So he's what?
Probably a welter way.
Also his wife, like, I think has a weird, like, public persona.
Mm-hmm.
And their whole relationship, bro, it just goes back to fucking media.
But she was awesome and smart and nice and very intelligent.
And I don't know.
It's just weird how the media paints everyone.
and it's actually sad because I even had a preconceived notion of these people because it's just like indoctrination.
And you see enough things where you just like start to conform to that idea.
But then you could just be so wrong.
Yeah.
Oh, I think that that happens a lot.
You know, it's easy to get addicted to that too.
one of the things that I think is most important right now is the value of our own attention.
What do we put our attention on?
You know?
Because it's easy to sit there and just absorb all the bullshit and be like, here's a picture
of Lauren Bezos or Jeff Bezos.
And, you know, there's just an article.
And there's no even repercussions for anything more.
It's like, she just got her tits done.
He just got his head done or whatever.
And you're just like, okay.
But you don't understand.
But most people just, we believe it.
It's like, I've found myself believing stuff.
And it's like, this is, you know, I'm sure you've read things about yourself that are astronomically outrageous.
No, 100%. This is, I think the word you said that is key is like repercussions.
Like there needs to be some form of punishment for invalid commentary on anything.
Yeah.
And this is why I started suing people because, have you had a lot of NIL type, like that sort of issues?
Or just people saying stuff.
People mostly like rigged fights and and steroids and fake fights and like this type of thing.
It's like bro, do I look like I'm on steroids?
Like no.
I'm a chubby kid like to do you know how legal it is within all of these commissions to rig fights?
Like you guys are actually fucking stupid.
But I can't say that to them.
And then even when I'm like sitting here now,
defending myself, it feels like they're going to look at it and be like, of course he would say that.
Right.
So I'm just suing people because that's when the truth comes out.
It's like, let's go to court.
Yeah.
Let's actually look at the documents and see if my fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it.
And I know I'll come out on top because they're not.
And so.
Yeah.
And I'm going to go delete an old tweet as well as you're saying this.
But, yeah, because I did say that thing.
I was like, fuck you for a second, bro.
Yeah, I was actually mad at you.
I was upset at you.
I was mad at you.
But I was mad at you for saying that.
Yeah.
I can't remember if I did say it.
Why, though?
Because I think, yeah, I think it's exactly what you're saying.
It was like, well, let me think about it.
I don't know exactly what I said, but it was something like, yeah.
I don't, or yeah, some.
I actually remember this.
It was a jab like that.
Yeah, you did.
It was a verbal jab like that.
You said that.
I'm sorry, man.
Don't suit me also.
Please.
and I will take it down.
But like,
but what,
it's fine.
By the way,
it's fine.
It's fine.
But why?
Like,
what was the,
because I,
I look at it,
to be honest,
as another male
who's insecure
about me being successful
trying to take me down.
Hmm.
Let me think about that
for just a second.
Let me really think about it.
Yeah.
Um, yeah,
why would I say it was probably,
it was like,
um,
it felt like probably a bandwag any type
a thing, you know.
I'm not using that as an excuse.
I'm just saying that was probably part of it.
Let me think.
Oh, yeah, it's easy for me.
Now, in hindsight, yeah, it's easy for me to like just say something from here where
I'm sitting here.
I don't have to say it to his face.
I don't have to be around him and say it because I wouldn't, I probably, I wouldn't do that
unless I felt like it was a joking environment that was like safe.
Yeah.
So those are probably the things.
to be honest with you.
And, and, um, and I think it would take us longer for me to sit here and, or, you know,
it took me longer to really probably sit and like kind of think out what all the small parts
were.
But those honestly are the things that I'm thinking of off the bat.
Yeah.
No, and, uh, like, appreciate your honesty and candidness around that.
Like, and it's, it is annoying for me because I fucking work my ass off in the gym, like, all
the fucking time.
I think, I mean, you came, I mean, there was a time where it was like, yeah, this guy isn't a real fighter.
These are things that people would say.
And then there's no, there's no person now, like, you disproved.
But that's the thing is I could handle the not a real fighter because I'm like, fuck you, ha ha.
Right.
I could handle the, like most of the things that people said.
But then when I got so good that people couldn't believe what I was.
doing that it turned to fake fight steroids that really bothered me to be honest um i don't know why
like it just like seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove
it all um so it was so far from truth and i think that's why i'm blessed by god and like such a
a pivotal person in today's society is because I live by truth.
And I think that when you do that, God continues to bless you.
And I think the fake fights thing, like, is so far from the truth that it really bothered me.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I could see that it would.
Well, yeah, man, I'm sorry if I could contribute to that.
Bro, it's fine.
It's fine.
No problem.
But I'm glad that we're talking.
about this because I do think that it's interesting. I think that, um, yeah, I think there's something
like, uh, yeah, why, like, yeah, why does that kind of, like, why do we, or why have I acted
that way, why do we act? Like, why is, you know, sometimes it's in just, it's getting involved
in the conversation, but yeah, to think that there's not like, um, real repercussions or real, like,
just things that happen, feelings that happen. Do you, I think sometimes people,
you guys are such good promoters over the years, right?
And you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in, uh, entertainment and society.
Like, there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment.
And it may be longer.
I don't, I'm not even sure how old you are.
It's, yeah, it's been like 13 years.
Yeah.
I mean, to keep that and have a level that is like one of the highest levels in different mediums,
And then also I think people don't know, like, I don't know people don't know,
but it's tough to get people to reframe you into something that's different.
I'm not using those as excuses.
I'm just saying that there could be some of that in there.
Bro, I'm not going to lie.
Like, if, I might have a little.
If I, like, saw me as another, like, young and up incoming male,
I would, like, have jealousy of myself and be, like,
like fuck this guy he's got a jet
and a gold medal fiance
and the perfect life in 6,000
acre ranch I would have
jealousy
it's human nature
right so
I like get it
like it just is what it is
I just think there could be some of that
in there yeah and yeah I mean it's like
it's weird
and also like
does it help you keep going though
is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder
because I got an I'm not I don't know what I'm motivated by anymore to be honest yeah
that's interesting I feel that sometimes I think it's I think it goes back to like
helping others and like community I'm a big fan of Marcus Aurelius and I mean the biggest
thing he just says is like your duty to society is the most important thing. And so I think that's
where I've landed recently because I have like everything and like you have enough for yourself,
you mean you have what you need. Yeah. And and my family and all of that. So like I'd just go back to
like the leader of the Roman Empire should probably listen to what he had to say. And one of the
biggest sayings is I should, you know, your biggest thing is to be a part of society and make it a better
place.
So I think that's, that's maybe where I'm at these days.
One thing that really kind of like touched me was the way your reaction and involvement
with your fiancee at the Olympics.
I thought that was really cool, man.
I think there was something like, just as a guy, like you, a lot of.
of guys I think don't probably do a lot of supporting of their girlfriends or spouses in certain
ways. And I thought something like that was really beautiful to see. I think we have, do you have
anything of it? His wife won a gold. And they're cruising out there. Are they cruising?
Bro, they're cooking. This is awesome, bro. How are you feeling? What was, bro? So, yeah, so like,
honestly, yeah, it's, uh,
the greatest moment I've ever witnessed as a human.
Just like everything that happened and the way it played out was just nuts.
And I know how hard she works and like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's putting so much detail into her work.
and the girl right before her, like two races before,
set the Olympic record.
So we were all like looking at each other like,
oh my God, that was a fast time.
She might not win right now.
Like, what the fuck?
And then she just fucking calms out
and sets the new Olympic record and fucking wins.
Let's go.
And I could tell that she was going to win
before everyone else because I like see her times.
And so that's why I was like already crying.
And I was like, I don't cry.
So there was some more buildup to it.
It wasn't like just that exact moment.
You could feel it coming on.
Yeah.
No, I could see the speed and the times on the,
on the on the you know digital board so i knew maybe before anyone else and um bro like i'm i'm
the one that has to like deal with her stress and problems and thoughts around the whole sport
on a daily basis so i knew how much it meant to her and yeah it was just like witnessing
fucking greatness at the highest level in the coolest thing representing her country
The Dutch people were all there screaming.
Like, all of it was just beautiful.
The Dutch are fucking aerodynamic, dude.
I've always said that.
They're very aerodynamic.
You've been long on the Dutch and the aerodynamic.
A lot of them are very aerodynamic.
Pull up a Dutch, man.
Bro, just, no, my...
Pull up a Dutch.
Honestly, you're just very aerodynamic.
I'm not going to like that.
Look at this, pass.
Hold on.
That's just a random Dutch.
Zoom in on that guy on the right
Fucking Mr. Dutch right there
And fucking his little Dutch dime right there
Boy, donka Shane, homie
Dunker, that guy will fucking take on a wind right there
Dude'll take on a fucking
A headwind in a heartbeat
You'll be back to Puerto Rico
10 minutes sooner if that guy was fucking attached
To the front of your bird
That's for sure
I think there was something
It was
You're right
You're right, bro.
I've known that since I was young.
My mother told me that.
The dust were...
The dynamic, she said it.
What else did your mom teach you?
What did she tell me?
I don't know.
She was always working.
She would fucking drive by and yell at us.
She'd like, go brush your date.
She'd fucking be zooming by in her car and fucking yelling, dude.
Brush your fucking date.
We're just in the yard.
We're like, we're not even inside right now.
But she tried to parent the best she could.
You know, she was just always like delivering stuff.
No, I thought it was awesome, too, that you're, like, working on your foundation.
What is it, with Kat Williams or?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what I was saying.
Like, I'm just happy for your mother that she's going to benefit.
Yeah, I'm glad to see, Mom, you're going to get an afternoon off, dude.
Yeah.
So what's the foundation again?
With that clip in.
The foundation doesn't have a name that.
Nobody even knows those are coming out, but people are going to be...
It's benefiting the parents of autistic kids, right?
Yep, we're going to...
Dude, your family is going to be up.
Yeah, they are, dude.
And there's other autistic people in my fucking family.
We're calling those motherfuckers out.
Dude, there should be a...
All of them are going to make hella bread based off of your organization.
Is Loki insider trading?
I'm like to give you that way, dude.
Fuck, bro.
Dude, you're fucking, yeah.
You're fucking funny, dude.
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Thank you.
That was a special time.
I'm glad you got to, I'm glad we all got to witness that and that you went there
I showed up for that.
If you didn't have any money, right?
If you say you didn't have anything and you had to get,
what would you get your girl for like a,
like a present or whatever you'd think?
I would write her a letter.
I think that's still the most meaningful thing that you could do.
Words think are the most important thing in love.
And yeah, I would just write her a letter.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I saw that you sat with Vance at the Olympics.
Vance is cool, huh?
Yeah, Ohio guy.
He's neat to be around.
Yeah.
No, he's super normal, bro.
God damn, he's pulling up the photos.
It's his fucking job.
He's just...
Just joking, Travis, sorry.
Yeah, I like being around Vance.
He's been on here a couple times.
Do you think he's trying to position himself to be that next dog?
Or what do you think?
I think, yeah, of course.
Like, that's the nature of the game.
And, yeah, like, he's, uh, yeah, if you're gonna, if you're the vice president, you're, you're already playing the game.
That's a dangerous game.
So, like, it is.
And, and I, like, dabble in it, which.
It's scary because I don't want to get fucking popped.
But like, and beyond that, like, there are so many things behind the scenes, brands.
People won't even associate with you because of your political stance.
So it's a really interesting game to, like, play in.
But he's already balls deep.
So, yeah, I think he's going to jockey for president for sure.
It's got to be scary when you're that deep in.
it
yeah it makes it easier when you have like 15 securities
around you and people have to get wanded just to talk to you but like
yeah it's still weird it's still weird bro like it's the weirdest thing in the world
um do you yeah have you're playing that you're playing the biggest game of life
that's fucking true and and it's gotten dangerous yeah and do you want to play that and like can you
you. It's just really interesting.
Is there room for you in that space?
I saw something recently with you in Trump where you guys were like kind of flirting or whatever,
just paling around or whatever.
Yeah, we were flirting.
He's cute.
No, I saw a thing where you guys and he was giving you a lot of credit.
Yeah, I was nervous.
Like I was sweating.
Hell, fuck.
Yeah, it's got to be a moment like that where you're like, okay, this is kind of wild.
no yeah like at that point like life didn't make sense i had to like call my dad uh um for him to ground
me a little bit but even he was like bro what the fuck this is the coolest thing in the world um
yeah i've been like flirting with the idea of politics just because i think it goes back to marcus
aurelius of like helping society and like what that's the number one thing you can do um
And it's become a joke.
Like my business partner, Jeff Wu, we have a venture capital fund together.
Bring up Jeff.
Bring up Wu.
And let's get a gander at him.
Jeff, yeah, yeah, okay, there he is.
There he is.
Gee Woo.
Gee Woo-Nit.
So six years ago, he was like, you're going to become the president.
No way he said that.
Yeah.
And then it became less and less of a joke.
and then I started to realize like
oh my god
if I'm the best person to do it
and can actually win
then like I might need to do it
I'm already playing the biggest games of life
so we'll dabble in that
if it makes sense
and if there's like a Kamala running
on the Democratic Party like
fucking
dumb ass
running and opposing
I will enter the game
and risk getting
assassinated
but I don't want to
so
and what would you wear like a
you couldn't wear like a helm or something
you'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably
or just you'd have to
how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run
you literally had to like almost like I wonder
if people running in the future
like live stream from a bunker,
do you know what I'm saying?
Do their things from like a protected space
because it's going to get dangerous out there.
Yeah.
No,
you're a thousand percent right.
Like they actually probably will.
Like I,
yeah,
like I'm even scared
just talking about this shit.
Yeah.
But I think we're getting to a place
where I could see something like that happening.
I could see you running.
I could see something like that.
I could see like it does take something
inside of people, I feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose and a calling to something.
And if they can make sure that that's not just attached to their own ego and they can make sure
that there is a sense of like, I can do something better and I'm willing to put myself out there
to do that.
Yes.
And sign up for the hardest job in the world.
Yeah.
Where you're fucking 14 hours a day just cranking it.
I've seen Trump, his energy is why he's this.
there like he's a fucking legend in that in that sense and it demands so much of you and
will take away not only your life but everyone that you're affiliated with so you're also like
signing your kids up for it so like i really don't want to do it but like it's become like a
funny joke that i would and then randomly trump
endorses me fully, which someone texted me that said, like, you'd have to pay him a billion
dollars to get that endorsement. And you got it for free right there.
Yeah. Pull it up. Let me see that little endorsement.
This is pretty good. God is with us. I know he wants us on the right side of history.
And everyone here has to do their part. And God's got us. Trump's got us. God bless. Love you, Kentucky.
you did a good job there man
that's a fucking tough environment to be in that kind of space
I mean would it be something like you would run with advantage
I mean do you think it's something like that
or would you start as mayor of like
northern Puerto Rico or something
or do you is there any talks
or what is the concept I guess
sorry yeah so you're actually
are like super
perceptive because yeah
that was my plan was to start in
Northern Puerto Rico.
NPR, dude.
Which just got defunded.
So put it back on the map.
I, uh, I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
But it's just something like it's like a port,
it's like kind of like a light in the distance right now.
Yeah.
And it just seems like,
we need heroes out there.
Yeah.
And like Charlie would have been the guy.
Yeah.
So,
um,
it's fucking.
sad bro he's fucking awesome
um did you spend time
with him no no
just followed all of his stuff yeah but
like
you know what he was like
aiming for it though
I think that's the problem is like
I'm just a fucking kid from Ohio
that's a high school dropout
like
if it makes sense at some point then it makes
sense and that that was like
his job
and his purpose and
all of that.
Yeah.
And I loved that, but like, it, you know, if someone was like, this is like me becoming a world
champion in boxing, like, it makes more sense than Jake Paul becoming president.
Charlie Kirk was clearly going to be the next president.
So I think that's part of the whole thing that happened to him.
Right.
The whole energy that's out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
that's a good point that somebody did they there was probably people that didn't want to see that
possibly occur they didn't want to see that get to the next level or yeah there's a lot of
investigatorial stuff about that you know some people say that it was like a microphone on his
lapel that blew up and that that's what killed him um and then that microphone was made here in
Tennessee, and then two weeks after that, the factory was made at, blew to smithereens,
and like 16 people died, which is just kind of a crazy, like, that's one of the wildest,
kind of like, that's one of the most interesting theories that I've heard.
Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days, and I was just with some, like,
bros in Minnesota, and they were kind of asking me about these conspiracy theories,
because they were like, oh, he knows more than I do.
I think that a lot of it is fucking bullshit
And people just want something to like hang on to
I don't disagree on like certain points
But you have to be really smart and selective
To decipher the conspiracy theories that are out there
And like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth
but why as a society
do we hang on to these so much
like conspiracy theories
yeah because it's like
well we love drama as humans basically
like we just love fucking bad news
and we love to like
gossip yes
this is a fucking problem
it is a problem and so
conspiracy theories give people
a reason of fucking gossip
and like
just
it's just like something to do bro
people are bored.
Well,
like I've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck about any of this shit
because they just have better shit to do.
That's the problem.
It's like people need to go get a job and have a purpose.
And we're at a point, though, I think, where people can't trust mainstream media.
They don't trust it.
It's heavily owned by a couple of corporations.
And so I think that created.
a lot of this space for like just outlier investigators,
outlier people asking questions.
When every, you know, there's that famous thing during...
This is the problem.
Is all of it has become an entertainment product.
It's all the WWE.
I've been saying this years.
Exactly.
Everything is the WWA.
So this person who's claiming to tell the truth
starts to dabble in like a,
little bit of like fun, fun, fun, because it's going to get more views.
I mean, it goes back to a lot of these people.
But you understand that.
I mean, you guys have done it.
This is why I understand it.
Got it.
It's because I do this.
But the difference is I'm not doing it on things that, like, affect the world.
And I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking,
Israel and Charlie Kirk
I'm like talking shit
to Connor McGregor
right so I'm down to like
entertain
when it's in the entertainment world
got it when it's in politics
like people shouldn't fuck around
and so like
who is telling the truth
these days
yeah
and I wish you'd think
with all this technology or something
there would be able to be like a truth filter
you could put over something on your
phone. But then I guess it would be like, what is the arbiter of the truth? Like, it's like a lot of these
like AI models now. It's like they have information that's put into them. So they're only going to
spit out whatever, whatever, you know, like the information is controlled. So you're only going to
get answers that are based on it. One thing you said that I did want to say that I thought was
interesting was during the Roman Empire, a lot of the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield. So that was
one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times, where it was like, if they were
going to make choices that affected the lives of like the citizens of the military, of like the
farmer who was putting down his pitchfork and picking up a sword, like they had to be out there
as leaders as well. And I feel like that's where some of your energy comes from. And so I think
I, uh, I admire that concept. I think it's dope. And I agree. Like, if I ever was running for office,
I would also be like super down to have an AR-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers.
Out of a fucking gun and a shield.
Yeah, bro.
Like who has that, dude?
I'm down to die, bro.
I think I put that on the line with Anthony Joshua.
Like, I'm down for this shit, bro.
But like, I think you're right.
That's a really good point, actually.
Like, Trump should be on the front lines.
Or Baron.
I don't know if he's old enough yet.
He might be too tall to be out there, too.
He's got his head clipped
Bro's a big target
He would fight
He's got to stand out bro
And he's good looking
And so like he's, they're going to be like
Oh yeah that guy
Fucking get him
If
This is a funny question
If
If aliens came to earth
What human would you want them to meet?
Only could meet one human
What's human?
Oh, I think
I don't know if you send like a brother over there
probably NBA young boy
maybe dude I think
because I think that would
be yeah
well have you seen
that who's that guy
you know what I was thinking
this let's go
dude
and welcome to America's last
brain cell
for Aunt Dioban in this
This is Jake Paul.
Oh, dude, what about your
freaking mom was trying to
freaking holler at me?
Is that true?
What was happening?
Yeah, my mom.
I thought she was married.
She is.
They're in a great relationship.
I love my mom.
And stepdad.
Oh, damn.
Am I only going to get in trouble?
Is this bad?
And Derek, is that your stepdad?
Rick, Derek.
David.
David.
I was wondering the other day.
I was like, what is his stepdad's name?
Um
Okay.
So this, I mean,
philosophically,
what?
Philosophically,
if a woman is in a relationship
for 30 years with a normal guy.
For sure.
And then the fucking Mohawk comes out with Theo Von.
She might start flirting, bro.
When you see the Lord's parakeet.
Exactly my point, though.
You got to fucking...
And my mom is the fuck is the goat.
She's a life maxer.
So she's gonna life max.
And she's pulling up pictures.
Oh, yeah, that's who it she is right there.
That's Pam I am, boy.
Bro.
Pam I am.
Would you have done it, though?
And by done it, what do you mean take her out for ice cream or a film?
Yes.
Are you talking about, like, what are you talking about?
I would have taken her for ice cream out.
I had her in early.
And that's why I approve of your guys.
Good answer, political answer.
I'd be a good stepdad though, dude.
Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'm so happy, bro.
That's all I need in life, honestly.
I would let you all smoke, not in the house or something,
but I would let you all smoke.
Which kind of smoke?
Huh?
You can smoke dope, smoke it outside.
I don't give a shit.
As long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window or someone we're trying to rest.
Do you think my mom's hot?
Huh?
I think she's a beautiful lady.
I like her ass.
I don't know.
I'd have to see her again in person.
She did this list for you, bro.
Oh my God.
She did.
I think I have some photos.
Dude, your dad was right there.
I was like, what are we doing here?
You know?
That's my, no, they're divorced.
That was the, yeah, that's not her husband.
That was there.
Oh.
That was my dad and mom, but they're divorced.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I think he even was like, you know, you know, I'll tell you what not to do.
You know, I think he said some stuff like that to me.
So I think there was like a mix of like energy there.
But yeah, I know, and she's an author.
I admire that.
I know she just came out with a book, right?
Yeah.
Fuck the Paul.
Fuck the Pauls.
Fuck the Pauls.
Yeah.
Great book, by the way.
For, um, fuck the Pauls.
I would say like mostly, um, if people have an interest in like fame and navigating it,
I think it's a good book.
What effect do you think she had over the years on?
Like, did she kind of, was she ever like an orchestrator of things?
Or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the distance?
Like, because it's interesting how a mom reacts to like, I think their son's journey through popularity.
And like, because for a while they're just their son.
And then they're kind of like a pseudo-sibling or something to everybody in a way, you know?
Yeah.
I definitely like supporting from afar.
But like more recently she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and being like fuck you to these certain people in my life that aren't good.
So she's become more of a protector.
I think at first I was, me and my brother were like teaching her and she's very smart lady.
but I think it was such a new world for her of social media.
And so I think she always was giving her 100% best effort to help in any way possible.
And that came across in different ways.
But I think more recently, she's become more of a protector and more opinionated.
And she knows she has more confidence in her opinions.
And I think that's been good for both Logan and I.
Do you think that you guys' careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom that you are really, that makes you, like, have even some more unique thoughts about her?
Does that make any sense?
No, 100%.
Um, yeah, admire her more or?
Yeah, that's what it was, is admiring her more because, like, I was built for this and destined for it.
And.
you don't know if your parents are always on that same wavelength.
And I think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't even get along or talk or are involved.
Like,
I see a lot of that.
And it turns out that she was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire,
which is gangster.
And I was like, that's my fucking mom.
And that's my freaking wife.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No.
That's my first date.
Dude, I'm just saying
Take us to an award show
But yeah, I would take her somewhere nice
Yeah
What restaurant do you think
Oh, I know where I would take her
A place that has a golf course
But we don't play golf, we're just gonna go eat there
Nice
Watch the rich people come in
Oh, there's Tom
You know
Shit like that
Leonard
Oh yes
He has an institutional financial finance
estate.
Yeah, there we
Shut up, Leonard.
Yeah.
He has a tramp stamp
on his back too.
Don't tell anybody.
He got kind of crazy
one month in the fucking Hamptons.
Oh,
fucking Leonard's crazy.
Yeah.
And I would just let her drink wine
and I wouldn't drink any,
but I would smell her breath
every now and then to get a hit of it.
You know?
Just to get the fucking grapes in my nose, boy.
How much would you like huff it?
Oh, I'd take it good.
Whiff, dude.
I would reverse boof it.
I would put a strong-in-r-r-mouth.
And it just sucked a fucking wine smoke out of her fucking throat.
This is getting bad.
Dear God.
I just ordered a fucking, what am I some kind of fucking smut somewhere yet?
I need another whiskey blue raspberry.
Can one of you fucking get it for me?
Yeah, go get him one.
It's in the fucking refrigerator.
So, yeah, so.
Yeah, there's ice in the fridge.
So, so, oh.
But no.
No, I think it's, I've gotten to know her a little bit of this just by seeing her here and there.
And I think her, I think her energy and, I think it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a different way.
And I think that's, it's almost like a beautiful thing in a way.
You almost get to see, just to see somebody grow into something different at some point in their life is really special.
Whether that's, and it can be in any way.
But I think, so, so yeah, I could really imagine that that's nice.
No, exactly.
And like a lot, I've noticed a lot of people don't change or don't know how to and evolve.
And they just like get stuck in their same patterns and especially when they're older.
Because if you've been doing something for 40 or 50 years, you're going to like get stuck in that rut.
And so to like see her change and actually be able to like evolve is beautiful.
and I noticed it with my dad as well.
He's a little bit more behind,
but he's doing it,
and he's doing the work,
and that's beautiful.
That's awesome, man.
I think it's cool, like, whenever, like,
as a child, you get to be a part of something like that
and see that,
and, like, I think there's a lot of, like,
kind of, like, growth and moments there
for ourselves and our parents,
you know,
uh,
yeah,
being a son is an interesting responsibility
when you realize,
that it's not just like one of taking in a way.
And I don't mean that it, it just because that's how it is when you're,
you think it's just like this one way sort of thing.
It is like you're, like until you're like,
until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents,
it really is a one way relationship.
And it's the first one one way relationship in your life.
Do you, do you have kids or like, what's going on?
No, no wife.
I don't have many kids.
I'm not.
dating right now. I'm just working on myself. And so it's been like the last year's been kind of
tough with just like, um, just staying on track. And then I realized I was just kind of putting myself
like in the situation, like just things that, uh, I wasn't like, they weren't like all like rungs
on the ladder towards my goal, you know, some of them were fun rungs and things like that, but it just
wasn't where I needed to be. And like some of the sobriety's been a little bit tough over the past
year so. But right now I'm doing better than I've done in a long time. And so yeah, I feel good about
that. It's hard. It is. I need to go down. Especially for you in like your position and all of those
things like people. It's hard to find the right person that doesn't have the wrong intentions.
Yeah, I feel like I'm a decent judge of that kind of stuff. I think I'm enjoying kind of not having to
date and do things like that.
The problem is, is you can't judge it until it's like time.
Because people are good actors these days.
So.
How did you know your girl was the right one for you?
I think, was there like an experience you all had together or like a thing?
Just being at the same level.
Like in terms of wealth or fame or stature.
Because then you know there's like not games.
So yeah, you might have to like find a famous girl.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But they also could like understand like what, what right?
Like like you go do like a waitress girl today and you're like Theo's like, oh.
I had a podcast with Jake Paul and we talked about blackface.
and it was fucking insane
and it's gonna break the internet
and let's see what happens
and then she's just like
yeah I'm a waitress like
do you want a shot
like she's not gonna understand
the importance of that
or you or like what you did
I think yeah there could be some that
but if she goes well I know what you're gonna have
the black and salmon
if she said that is a joke
then I would know okay maybe this bitch is fucking
she has at least as a sense of humor
so a sense of humor is big for me
I do think like, yeah, there's some things it's like, um, you also don't want to add discomfort to someone's life.
I don't want to add like if some of my like bullshit or the little things that I'm involved in,
I don't want that to mess up somebody's life if, you know, like, um.
But that's that that that's also why the like famous girl would be good because I got to,
she's already like balls deep.
I got to meet one then.
I will one of these days when I get back out there.
I saw that you and your, did you and your father do ayahuasca?
Who did it?
Yes, yeah.
I've been there a few times, man.
Aya?
Yeah.
Okay.
And thank God.
I mean, dude, I'll even fucking talk to this bitch every now and that's at since.
Once you've done ayahuasca, dude, you look at a house plant way different.
You're like, how are you boys this morning, you know, huh?
10 and 2, you know?
Bro, I'm not going to lie, bro.
I've talked to, have you talked to, have you talked about this.
Have you talked about this so much?
I didn't know if you have.
Well, about what?
If you talked about this so much, I didn't even know.
No, no, no.
No, I'm saying after doing ayahuasca, I like grabbed steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal and being like talk to it because it's a living object.
People don't understand that metal is a living object.
So that sounds fucking insane, but like it's no different than a plant.
Yeah.
They're atoms moving around.
And so I actually talk to the items in my house
to like give them better energy.
Like let me, let me boost your spirits today, guys.
I know you're a bookshelf,
but you don't know what you're holding on to.
You know what I'm saying?
You've got everything.
You've got the crucible right here on your back.
You've got all these freaking.
Oh, God.
You've got Moby Dick.
You've got the Bible.
Seven Bibles have here.
Bridges of Madison County.
My bookshelf is tired, bro.
Yeah, you've got Dunkirk on you.
You've got to talk to it.
You have no clue what you.
you're doing. I like that.
Yeah, but to boost up your fucking boys
who were fucking carrying all your words around.
I like that.
I boost up everything in my house, bro.
Where'd you guys do it at?
Did somebody come to you?
I've done it like a bunch of times.
Mostly Costa Rica.
Ooh.
And did your wife go to?
Yes.
Wow.
Yeah, there's a video.
And, oh yeah.
Oh, yeah, dude, you got the fancy one.
I did it right outside of a Pupas over there off the 101.
You just did it here?
No, off the 101 in L.A.
I didn't know.
You're a neighborhood.
You can't do that, bro.
You got to like...
Dude, the shit was popping, bro.
It was good.
It was good.
It was popping.
Okay.
Okay.
What was, like, the biggest thing you took away from it then?
Like, oh, dude.
I, like, I remember...
I mean, you went, like, a deep thing?
Yeah.
I, there was a point like, um, I remembered this feeling that I had when I was a kid that
maybe if I was a, like, um, if I was a girl that, uh, I would, my parents would love me more.
That, that, that, so I was like, there was like this weird, like, like, just questioning of
who I was or something. Um, I remember that. That was like a crazy thought that I had when I was a kid.
Um, I mean, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
That's like a comparable thing, which goes back to like,
then they probably made you feel compared or some weird shit.
Like, I don't know how to psychoanalyze all of that.
Yeah, no.
But it was something, yeah, I just thought, like, maybe, like, they don't see me as I am.
So maybe, it was just a thought that as a kid, well, maybe if I was a girl, they would see me.
It was just, but that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have.
And it sucks.
Yeah, so things like that.
And you kind of process those, like, you know, you process for like a kid feeling
those things.
Yep.
I think the biggest one for me was self-love.
It was like just like putting the mirror up of like look at yourself.
And how come you don't love yourself sometimes?
And in a lot of moments I do.
But I think that trickles out into a lot of other areas of life
where it can not be good.
Like where it turns into like between where it turns into ego or where it turns into that kind of stuff.
Exactly.
Yeah. It's scary.
Yep. And just like, yeah, just like even insecurity is a part of self-love.
And so I've actually like really worked on it and gotten so much better at it and I feel secure now.
but i came from a place of of insecurity but it takes practice to to get there um and to find that
confidence and that love and to know who you are and not give a fuck what anyone thinks because i also
was like judged and in public scrutiny and all of these things since i was like 19 so i think that
was the biggest thing was was self-love yeah dude it's funny what we're we're talking about this other
in a meeting and thanks for sharing that with me.
We're talking about, did your dad say any wild shit while he was in there?
Was he in there fucking caffin?
He was, bro.
He's like, her name was Janet.
Was he just yelling shit in there or whatever?
Bro, I literally had to.
Because that's great, bro, to sit there with your, with one of the people that created
you and to be on that journey, that seems wild to me.
Was it like that or was it not like that?
It just seemed like two buddies.
It wasn't, it wasn't.
I had to, um, I realized.
the like sweetest thing about my father is that he's a protector and he's a fucking warrior
and he was so high off of ayahuasca that he was like trying to like figure out where his
um fiancee was and like protect her and he thought that like people were like trying to attack her
and there was no one there and he was just like i need to get i need to protect her
I need to do this.
I need to do this.
He's like installing fucking security systems.
Literally.
He turned into fucking secret service.
But there he is right there, bro.
Drinking soup through his head.
That guy's walking out of his dome, bro.
So it's really interesting, though.
Get a spoon, honky.
Sorry.
That's my mom driving by.
It's telling me to brush my teeth.
Um, so, so was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that?
All right.
So, um, he had a stroke before this and, um, before ayahuasca.
And, um, I've always been into psychedelics because I'm in the sport where you get fucking hit in the head.
And there's science around mushrooms creating neurogenesis as, as, as well.
as
as Toad
5MEODMT.
I'm friends with
Brian Johnson.
I was just with him.
Yeah.
I,
I like relate to him
in that sense.
I've done it like 10 times.
And so,
I basically like told him
at some point to do it
as a science thing.
And
these things,
Things are like actual magic in the world.
And people don't understand their significance and how profound they are and how much healing can be done.
And when you talk to these people from the Sonaran tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it, it cures Parkinson's, Alzheimer's.
All of these things.
The list goes on and on and on.
And it's actually like shielded from,
there's a reason why it's illegal in the United States
because of Big Pharma and et cetera.
Big Pharma sucks, dude.
We can go down that rabbit hole.
Well, there's a law.
They're trying to pass a law right now that they're allowing IBA gain in Tennessee.
And they need to pass it.
It's something all these, all these plant medicines need to be approved.
100%.
Now, people don't need to be buying them out of a fucking, like, a, one of those, like,
skill crane machines or something like that at a pizza hut or whatever, you know?
But, but, but, but it's fucking wild that you could just go to any local place here,
five minutes away and get fucking double Moscow mule.
Yeah.
But you can't do something that's actually good for you.
What does that say about our leaders, about pharma, about insurance, all of these things.
And there's, there's, no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like done something bad.
Yeah.
But you've seen hundreds of times where the alcoholic is shooting up a place and killing people and beating his wife.
So like, what the fuck are we doing as a society?
It's ass backwards.
It's sad.
And I agree.
I mean, I just, yeah, I think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that, man.
Because that's a big thing that's going on right now.
I think when is that bill?
Can you look that up for me?
The helping open pathways to effective treatment act, HB, 2075 is under consideration in the 2025, 2025, 2026 legislative session.
The bill would not legalize abigand for general use.
Instead, it would create a state framework for FDA supervised clinical trials,
targeting opioid use disorder, co-occurring substance disorders, PTSD,
and related brain injury conditions, funded via a public-private matching grant structure.
I'm a proponent of that.
Are you?
A thousand percent.
Amen.
There you heard that.
Let's fucking vote.
Let's fucking vote.
Vote for toads.
That's it, bro.
We love frogs.
And toads.
Did your relationship with your...
dad change after it or no or was it just kind of another okay so that i mean so um there's like a
really interesting thing that happened to him um when you know the like ayahuasca experts
they've like seen everything and my dad had a stroke and you could viscerally see a difference
in how he talked and acted he like wasn't there it was like light
on no one's home like 60% not full on but it was sad and I was like yo like talk to a bunch of
people blah blah blah let's do iwaska so um he basically did it and what the shamans were saying was
and what they could feel they're experts at this shit by the way and it's not bullshit they don't
give a fuck bro like they live in the middle of the fucking jungle
in fucking Peru.
There were just like,
I could tell his spirit was cut
and
his, during this experience,
his spirit came back to him.
And, like, since that day,
he's just been normal again.
No way.
Yeah.
So.
Noticably.
Everyone notices it.
And everyone was worried before it.
Like,
they were like, yo, like, he's kind of,
I don't want to use the R word.
Right.
Because I would never say retor or fash, but like,
I don't say it.
No, me either.
I'll spray painted on your wall.
I'll never say it.
Yeah, but I'm not saying in it.
But he was like low-key retarded.
And, well, that's not even, yeah, that's fine.
It brought him back.
So, yeah.
Damn.
And imagine that, dude.
Imagine you just somebody rolls into like a learning disabled class, which I was in.
And I was in, yeah, I was in there for not a long time, but I did a little bit of time in there.
And imagine somebody rolls in there one day and the next day that classroom opens up and kids can be healed.
I think there's a lot of healing in this stuff.
Related psychedelic evidence right there on, this is on perplexity.
DMT, Iowaska's key active component is under phase one trials for stroke safety and recovery potential with preclinical data indicating brain heal.
dealing via neuroplasticity.
Wow.
So this is science, right?
Mm-hmm.
And there's a big problem with science.
And yes, it's that everything is, like, documented and, like, experiment and, like, measure, measure.
And there's a good side of that.
But, bro, these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have reported studies.
human to human.
They're not fucking scientists,
but they have the
human to human conversation
of like, yo, this actually worked.
Right.
And so that's not going to be on fucking perplexity.
Well, it's not some gooner in a lab
we're in fucking kids who's fucking doing all the shit,
you know?
We're talking about real, yeah,
people that are in the woods who have been doing,
they know what's going on.
Exactly.
It's crazy how we've gotten so far away
from like all this bullshit,
like how we got so far away from all these
like real healing methods that had been alive for thousands of years.
Yeah.
And then we got into this just like bare Monsanto fucking bullshit where we're all just addicted
to stuff and it's ruining people's lives.
And then now we're getting back out of that.
I feel like we're getting back out of that faster than ever, though.
Do you feel that?
Yeah.
I think I do.
I do.
And because we trusted our government.
We trusted that the EPA and FDA, all these things were taking care of us.
But now it's like, fuck, they're making us sick.
There's a health care that doesn't want to take care of it.
It's like, it's, it's, it's been a, it's been a road.
Yes.
And like, the best thing is that, um, social media removed the barriers for information knowledge.
Um, and anyone can say whatever they want.
And I find that the truth is like it, I don't find.
I know that the truth is like resonating more.
So people like understand more about health, psychedelics.
Yeah.
Peptides.
Love relationships.
Authenticity.
There's a reason why like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're
just like, oh, you're fake as fuck.
We don't like you.
So I think it's a good thing.
It's a great thing.
And it almost goes back to like freedom of speech.
but like imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it.
Yeah, I think it's like I do.
You can hope that we're in a new revolution of some sort, you know?
That's always a nice hope to have, I find.
Dude, let's talk about some of these fights, dude.
Who had the dumbest trunks on that you fought?
You thought you were like, this fucking guy.
I'm knocking this guy out just because of the trunks.
Was there anybody?
Is this like, I can't...
I'm not gonna lie, bro.
Like, Ben Ascran.
I fucking love the guy.
I donated to his double lung surgery, but like, bro, he just doesn't have any stees.
Hmm.
Like, he's the most, like, vanilla, like, dumb-ass white guy who just, like, got told what to wear.
Bro, it's the one...
I don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo.
But like, bro, he looks like a fucking idiot.
He just wore kind of like, um, trunks from the, um...
Like, you literally just, like, found him at a local store.
Yeah.
He always had this.
There was always an energy during that where it seemed like he'd just kind of woken up earlier.
You know?
Um, and blessings to him, he's doing much better now.
Um, dude, so what about, uh, MVP?
You guys have hosts, you guys have, um,
promoted like 30 fights now.
Okay.
You're teaching me this information.
Okay.
Thank you.
How has that been as a promoter?
Has it been different than you thought it would be?
What's been like what is some of the energy going on with that?
Yeah, like we came into the game and this was like, I saw boxing as like taxi and we were Uber.
And it was just like so obvious and we operate as like a startup and me and my business partner don't need money.
Who, G-Woo?
I just think it's funny.
No, this is Nikisa.
Okay, sorry.
He's from Iran.
Jeff's going to love this shit.
He's going to watch it and be like, oh, fuck, yeah.
He won it.
He won it.
Yo, that's good.
Jeff, I think you should change your Instagram.
Did you win it?
So, me and Nikisa
have money from other shit
and don't need to do it.
And that's why our motto is always like fighter first.
And that's actually like very important.
So when you start there,
where you like fighter first and operate as a startup,
we like instantly.
took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the best to work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest percentage of the fights, etc.
But on top of that, if you like just want to talk analytics, like coming into the game, I have 100 million followers or something like that.
Wow.
And the second biggest promoter is Dana White with like 30.
So I'm like three times bigger than him.
Is that your biggest competition then?
Is there another boxing?
I guess there's Zufa.
There's Zufa's new.
Yeah, they just started.
And they're already making like a lot of mistakes and are quite, quite basic.
And yeah, like you don't want to pay.
Connor Ben, $15 million, to do an easy-ass fight against Regis.
Right off Rip, because your whole UFC model is paying fighters like one-third of that,
max.
And...
Do you think it sets a tough precedent for them?
Exactly.
They already fucked up, like, bad.
Maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us, they would like have such a better outcome, which I truly believe.
Could you see a world where your partner?
I'm open to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
By us.
Like we'll help you guys not be idiots.
You would, the amount of money you would spend.
Like, I don't have an ego, bro.
I'll work with anybody.
But Dane is a very smart guy.
I mean, he's not smart enough.
What makes you say that?
Just look at what he's doing.
like you don't you don't not pay your fighters bro you like you don't get john jones on the white house
card first of all justin gaichi is going to lose to ilia on the white house card so you have a spaniard
beating a white american on the patriotic white house card like okay big mistake first of all
Second of all, why are you not going to pay John Jones?
Do you think it was a financial thing with him?
Bro, this is like one of the most profitable sports organizations in history.
Their investors have gotten greedy.
They're in control.
They are looking at the P&Ls and being like, yo, like we can just keep pumping this shit.
And they're not, they forgot their heart.
as a company.
That's the problem.
And so,
um,
it's dying.
And also,
MMA is not like,
uh,
I'm always going to speak the truth and I'm,
I'm partners with Netflix on an MMA event.
So,
well,
I know you guys have that,
do you guys have that event coming up?
But MMA hasn't stood the test of time.
Because the best people in the sport
become wrestlers and they
just like hold on.
What do you mean? Like, CM Punk, you mean?
There's a lot of great fighters in the...
No, Khabib, Cosma, like all these people.
Oh, they become wrestlers.
I've seen, like, ground game guys.
Exactly. I'm not like WWE guys.
Which is boring. No one wants to watch that.
There is a level of...
So it hasn't stood the test of time.
Yeah. Boxing has been around since the 1500s.
MMA is 30 years.
And it's declining.
And also because it's not...
ran properly and they're becoming greedy.
And it's like a super corporate organization where they're signed with Paramount.
They have stockholders.
It's a part of the WW, R.
Emanuel, public company, blah, blah, blah.
So when they're paying fighters like 15% of the revenue, by the way, down to 10%.
The investors are going to be like, yeah, we're going to make more money.
Is it down to 10% do they change it?
It's going down.
So you're just assuming that it is going on?
The NFL pays their athletes 50% of the revenue.
Got it.
So if the NFL makes a billion dollars, the athletes make 500 million.
Got it.
In the UFC, it's 150 million out of a billion.
But when you exclude Conn McGregor and John Jones from that, it becomes like,
5% 50 million out of a billion.
Because they make less, you mean the overall gross is less.
So then the percentage is less.
Yeah, because that number factors in the superfights were...
I am a UFC fan, and I've just enjoyed being an associateer there.
I have so much fun over there.
It's such an interesting thing.
You know, some of the business side I don't know about, but it does feel like...
Here's what I hear people say.
The cards have gotten not as interesting, right?
because there's more cards.
But you also hear people say that,
like my sponsor was saying this morning,
he's saying,
dude,
I love that I can just turn on Paramount
and that the UFC is on there every week.
So I think there's like,
you know,
there's different avenues to go down with it.
And I think that sports is paramount.
Like,
who has that?
Do you have one?
I don't know.
Exactly.
Yes.
I don't know if I do.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah,
I might.
I probably do.
I don't.
I think I have one,
but like I don't know.
That's what I mean.
So,
but I didn't.
Like,
If they were like gunned ahead,
gonna shoot you,
log in,
probably gonna figure out the login.
That's hilarious, dude.
That's true.
So,
that's fucking,
bro,
that's a great game show, dude.
Yeah.
Login.
Death.com.
All right.
Today we're fucking something.
Do you pull him in,
blindfold that he's like,
motherfucker,
you got 30 seconds to get in a Spotify,
premium.
Everyone would die.
He gets to call.
his wife, you get one call, but that person can't look it up.
You bitch.
I know.
I thought you knew this, honey.
Damn it, Stephanie.
You're the one that.
What is it?
You're the one.
Wizard 60.
What is it?
You guys are co-promoting the new MMA card that's on Netflix.
Yeah, so that's the whole thing is like, bro, why are you laughing?
Bro, look at this.
This is crazy.
though, bro. Was there another opportunity for Ngano to fight someone else? I mean, I know that
Linz is kind of a new name to a lot of people. Yeah, but he's he's, he's, um, uh, very fucking
good. It's, it's a more dangerous fight for him than, um, who do we have as the other opponent?
It should be Ngano versus damn Bigfoot if I could find him. People would watch that shit.
we had a we had a
I forget who the fuck it was
we had a different name
um
who was
a bigger name
and easier fight for him
so as Francis is
you know we joke around and fight
blah blah
marketing but like
respect to him for
for doing this and um
it's a very challenging fight
so it's gonna be fun
and and Diaz versus Perry
Are you like, it's just gangster, gangster, bro?
We just had, actually, Nate Diaz on.
This is before we knew that you were coming on,
and he was on.
Like, it hasn't even come out yet.
But he did talk about this, something.
Pull up the clip that he had talked about.
He talked about some of the fights between us.
Yeah, we talked about it a couple of things here.
Let me see what we got in here.
I'm not fighting for MVP.
I'm fighting for Netflix, and I'm fighting from Real Fighting Incorporated.
which I'll probably be doing next with Netflix anyway,
Real Fight Entertainment on a thing
and show you how to throw a real
MMA fight show.
I've been in the UFC for 20 years now,
so I'm like, yo, I'm going to do that from Real Fighting with,
you know, I'm not working for a fucking MVP
like all these other motherfuckers are.
I'm a UFC fighter.
I'm working for me for Real Fighting,
and I'm hunting Jake Paul.
his motherfucking ass, not taking a fight with a guy who's on the comeback.
Man, fuck Connor will fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight.
But it's going to be when we both on the uprising, not when someone's dying out.
A whole fighting, even like Paul, I feel like I beat ball.
A lot of people felt that way.
But it was his like big show.
So it's like, okay, all right.
But I know from experience, I ain't winning no decisions, even if I do.
So watch that fight over and read the punch.
count in your own count without somebody else's.
I won't have fight too.
What do you think there, Jake?
And that was Nate.
Yeah, no, I never say the word retarded.
I think it's, like, super offensive.
I would never say it.
When you see someone that's retarded, like,
it's just hard to, like,
comprehend what they're saying.
And I'm going to take, like, a business.
higher level.
I'm going to take the high road.
Okay.
Because he technically is working for my company.
And he's trying to deny it in that clip.
Um,
and I'll just leave it there because I don't care about that.
I want MMA to grow.
But yes,
technically like he's,
he's literally lying.
I don't work for it.
Okay.
That's fine, bro.
Like, whatever your ego wants, I'll bend down to it for now because MMA is going to prosper.
And you, Nate, should just not lie.
And, yeah, fuck.
Like, do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won?
Oh, that, that's, that's, that's, that's.
That's, I don't address stupidity.
Like that, that's the most bizarre part about it.
But like, I don't have time to address stupidity.
Do you?
Because then you give it more momentum.
Maybe I'll do it just, just this one time.
But like, the judges said I won every single round.
So if it was like a close fight, that would be a different combo.
But this guy was.
like easy work, lightest puncher I've ever fought.
Is that true?
You're just saying that.
On my mom's life, rest in peace, strike her down God.
Nate Diaz is the lightest and worst puncher I've ever fought.
He's the toughest.
And he took the most damage.
But in a sport, that's not something to brag about.
Like, I'm the tough, bro, people, people, people come up to me and they're like, you're so tough.
You took shots from Joshua.
I was like, this, I don't want to be complimented like this.
Right.
I don't want to be tough.
That means you're just getting beat up.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the fuck.
Yeah, that's a good point, dude.
I don't want to be tough.
Bro, any boxer is tough sucks.
No, I'm joking.
But, like, my coaches told me this early on.
They're like,
this is not a tough sport
this is a mental sport
um
do you feel like you owe
Nate or one of the other UFC guys
an MMA bound does that does any of that weigh on you sometimes
yeah yeah I want Nate in MMA
and I think it's
yeah I think I think it's
it's high on my list of priorities
to do that
and what's the toughest
like kind of
like barrier to entry to getting that done?
Is it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game
and stuff in Jiu-Jitsu?
No, no, it's just the business side.
Got it.
He probably wants a certain amount of money to take the risk in losing to me.
And yeah, I just don't give a fuck.
I have enough money.
I got all my shit
So
That's why these guys are actual ducks
Is because you can't like hide behind money anymore
So yeah
I think I think it's gonna happen though
And if he beats Perry
Then me versus Nate is probably
The number one thing on the list
Like above Tommy Fury
Above Francis and Ganu
above KSI.
Do you think he could beat Perry?
I think he will.
Yeah.
I think he'll take him down and submit him.
What do you think?
That's such a dog fight, dude.
Mike Perry's...
First of all, the funny...
They're two, like, really the most beloved outlier guys that, like...
They're just such both unique guys.
And they kind of...
They do think their own way.
I mean, I'm just talking...
I'm trying to evade the question.
What's the program you have with the charity?
It's the program for the, it's for like parents, parents of autistic children giving them like a day off.
Yeah, so like that's why this fight is awesome is like their parents are both going to get hell of days off.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't see it, but yeah.
So you think they're smart?
Like you would classify Nate Diaz and Mike Perry as smart.
And by the way, that's secluded from autism.
Okay.
Like, autistic people are smartest people in the world.
But like, I'm just obviously joking.
But do you think they're fucking smart?
I think they got the toughest fucking autism that there exists.
I wish I had that touch gloves to him.
You know, that's what I'm like.
Dude.
If they were starting a company, would you invest in it?
Oh, come on, bro.
That's crazy, bro.
That's a crazy thing to act somebody.
And during the daytime.
Bro, I'm pretty sure it's like six.
I think, dude.
I would, it depends on what kind of business it was, I think.
Oh, yeah.
If it were like a dog catching business.
Fuck, yeah, bro.
Or brain rejuvenation business.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
I think, but yeah, if it's like, yeah, doing taxes and shit, no, no, not, not, not, no.
Now, it's just fine.
Yeah, if it's just fucking, if it's fucking getting your money back from somebody down the street business, then take my money, fellas, you got it.
I'm in, dude.
There's a female.
I gotta go.
We got to get done to.
No, no, no, no, no, we don't.
We don't.
We do, dude.
Bro, you know how much, you know how many clips we've pumped out of this shit?
I know.
We're going to be on Twitter for like nine days straight.
It's fucking ridiculous, dude.
God.
I got to get some fucking help.
That's the number one thing I say to myself every day, dude, so I got to get some help.
Rousy, Corona, what do you feel about this bout?
Dude, Corona's been out for a while.
Yeah, I think.
Was it tough to make that the lead bout?
Was there a purpose and that, like a reason behind it?
Yeah, we're like proponents for women, mostly, like, putting them on the forefront.
And I genuinely, like, believe that women's boxing is so entertaining.
They're shorter rounds and they just, like, fucking go at each other.
And I think they have a chip on their shoulder.
So it becomes more entertaining than, like, a 12-round.
Floyd versus De La Jolla where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and everyone's disappointed.
So yeah, that was that was part of the purpose and that's MVPW.
That was part of a group you guys launched.
Yeah, we yeah.
So my comedy is MVP and then and then we have MVPW which is like women's that that side of things.
And were you searching for your fighters?
how are you going to populate this to have good ballots?
Like, is that become a concern?
Because a lot of people are under UFC contracts.
No, it's the opposite.
So, like, we have all the best women signed to us.
For boxing?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, now MMA, I guess, as well, like starting in MMA,
but mostly boxing.
the beautiful thing about it is that we can make the megafights happen because we know both sides of the party
and but will you will they be able to fight in UFC will will people under your banner be able
to fight in UFC or Netflix's thing if they keep this going or are they no no no no um yeah we're
like a completely separate from the UFC.
Got it.
And a competitor.
So,
so it's actually like
UFC's with Paramount
MVP's with Netflix.
Okay, I got it now.
Yeah.
Dang, dude, that's wild, bro.
Congratulations, man.
Yeah, thank you.
Congratulations, dude.
It's in, you know, like,
watching you is an interesting sport.
you know and I mean that in a lot of like really so that so it like increases your heart rate to watch me
probably does which is okay it's a sport I mean it's just like uh you know yeah like it's there's
there's admiration because you you know you kind of you defy the odds or you re you you
you kind of like I don't know you can I don't know what it is it's interesting and it's
It's fun.
And it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting and is also in the business side.
I think there's just a lot of stuff to see you be a business guy as is, it's all interesting, dude.
It's judgmental.
No, I would, I would agree.
And I think I wrote like a little stupid fucking thing to put on my Instagram.
Yeah.
That I think can like summarize me a little bit.
I think it's like super fucking gay to talk about it, but, um, you want me to read it?
Like, we might not put this part in.
Okay.
But like, it kind of summarizes what you're saying.
Okay.
So, uh, life became unrelatable, so it's easy to become hateable.
I live in truth so my views are undebatable.
Life's become approvals and payables.
funny how I was the only one who knew I was capable
now anything in life is available
only because I became unbreakable
once in a generation beyond occasional
send all the pressure please
God is protecting me I'm gravitational
I hope you don't hate and use it as motivational
but honestly this shit is not sustainable
or very retainable have to manage it with Ivy League occupational horrid lady over there
I post more content than you but I'm still untraceable I hate to be cocky but at this point
it's educational this is who the fuck I am it's not recreational you probably could but if we're
being honest you are not capable so again that's why I'm hateable is he a politician
investor, rapper, boxer, it's unexplainable.
And that's why I'm inescapable.
So I think that's like what.
Dude, I fucking really like that.
I think, and you know what?
Yes.
That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah.
And it is.
And it is, man.
And you know the sad part about it is that, like, people are going to, like, clip that.
Oh, damn.
But that's why I'm saying.
it's like sad that they're going to clip it and be like bro thought he cooked no we're not saying
that you are um what's that guy's called gana or whatever we're just saying that you i that you
explained exactly what i was thinking and that's yeah yeah exactly that's why that's why i brought
it up otherwise i wouldn't have but but but the sad part is that people are going to clip it and
be like but people are also freaking touching their own dicks all the time so people are
disgusting.
You don't test your own dick.
Jerking off.
Gay, dude.
You're jerking a dude off.
Yeah, it's you.
But it's still a dude, bro.
Fuck that.
Now, some chick rolls up with a cock.
Maybe I'll help her out.
You feel me?
BLM, dude.
So you love Thailand?
Never been.
I haven't even looked at.
I haven't even gone there on one of those, like,
map, zoom in views,
like street views or whatever.
Do a...
your brother just had a child.
Do you get competitive with him?
Like, do you start to think about that yet?
Or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment?
Because once wife got that gold, bro, you know what I'm saying?
You could hatch something.
And sorry, that's just something I've read recently on a headstone in Memphis.
So I was just like...
Had something?
Yeah, once wife got that gold, you could hatch some.
You know, that's just like...
Someone else's wife got a gold?
It's pretty rare.
No, I just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in or something.
It could mean anything.
Yeah.
You're right.
No, it's inspiring.
Yeah.
It's so inspiring.
Has it been interesting to see him be a dad?
Like,
is it different?
He's a fucking loser now.
It's so funny.
Look at him, bro.
You go to bed at 10 p.m.
Like,
he used to be cool and like kick it and like drink and smoke with us.
And then he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m.
But honestly, bro, I'm so happy for him.
Like, this is.
what's needed like he's amazing um and he's a great dad it's just like funny because and again i would
never use the word the r word but like when um he's walking down the beach with his um kid and i'm
like bro this is my brother like he's fucking retarck and he's like carrying the baby down the fucking
beach and he like got it his shoulder i'm like bro what the fuck is going on it's just it's just
funny um but i'm i'm so happy for him and s may is like the coolest thing in the world and
yeah she she's like 18 months and um i i like went to hang out with her the other day and like
we don't see each other a lot because we're always busy logan's traveling we like whatever
but um she's looking at me and i'm like saying hi to her and she goes
Jake.
And she says my name for the first time.
I was like, bro, game over.
That's cool.
I was like, I started like getting teary-eyed and like,
it's just the craziest thing ever.
Has it brought your family overall closer together?
Yeah, 100%.
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah.
It's crazy how something like that.
When we first had it in my first niece,
it like, it was like the first time we were a family,
it felt like in some ways.
Yeah, I would agree.
I think.
and Nina, by the way, is such a great mom.
She's doing such a great job.
And she, like, sends videos and pictures to us every day.
Oh, that's sweet of her.
And so, like, shout out to Nina for fucking being amazing on that set of things.
Yeah, it's nice.
It keeps you involved, makes you feel like a part of it.
That's important.
Yep.
And they do this thing where it's, like, outfit of the day.
and like
Esmei like loves it
and she like knows
even though she can't talk really
she like puts on her outfit
and then Nina like films her
coming out of the room
with the outfit and like hypes her up
and then Esme like loves it
and is like
she like knows that it's like
some important moment
so it's really
fucking beautiful, like little shit like that.
Yeah.
Stuff like that, yeah.
Stuff like that, that makes you feel kind of connected.
It's awesome.
Shout out to you know, that's beautiful.
And congratulations to them.
It is exciting.
That baby looks so happy, huh?
Happiest baby ever, I think.
Really?
Bro.
That's the blessing.
I get these videos every day and she's just like happiness maxing.
Dude, when you get some cap-ass baby, that shit's fucking trash.
Honestly, like,
That's the problem is you can't return it.
I know.
You got to fucking remodel that bit.
There's no coupon.
Put some fucking Fendi on that bitch of something.
You got to do something, bro.
Because they got some cap-ass children out there.
They got to redo the genetics type shit.
Blessings to them.
Man, Jake, thanks for coming and hanging out, dude.
Yep.
I appreciate it, bro.
I've just enjoyed getting to talk to this.
Most you and I've ever talked.
And I think it's like, yeah, you just get a different concept of people.
It's hard to know people until you talk to them.
Dude, Brian Johnson.
I thought that that guy was going to be like he was going to show up like in bubble wrap or something.
Fucking drinking his own cum or something.
Bro, bro.
Sorry.
You know he's had a little.
Wait, but by the way.
What I'm saying is, dude, he was a cool.
He was like just, it's just interesting until you get to know somebody, you're right.
We live in this place where we assume things based on what we see.
It's all, it's all interesting.
And some of it's our fault.
and some of it is a place of where we are.
It's interesting, though.
I killed him the other day.
Did you really?
Yeah, I killed him.
He'll be back.
Oh, you put him asleep?
I put him to sleep.
Wow, he's supposed to go to bed at 4.30 p.m. anyway.
I killed him.
When was that, that dude?
Hell yeah.
Bro, this dude is up for anything, bro.
No, no, no, like, he's dead.
Oh, damn, okay.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
So, like, I kind of fucked up the don't die movement, but, like, he's such a great guy, but I had to kill him.
Hey, bro.
I kind of feel you.
You know, he is that neighbor that's out in the front yard, fucking boiling his own blood and shit.
You know, that can fucking.
I love that guy.
He's a genius, but, like, bro, I'm Jake Paul.
I had to go viral.
Oh, yeah, bro.
So I had to kill him.
Dude, yeah.
It's for the game.
Yeah.
I see that shit for sure, dude.
R-I-P.
Brian Johnson, bro.
Yeah.
See what the crossroads.
Homey gang.
Thanks, Jake.
Now, I'm just floating on the breeze,
and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
I must be cornerstone.
Oh, but when I reached.
that ground. I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it.
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