This Past Weekend - #658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

Mike Tyson is a professional boxer, entertainer, entrepreneur and former heavyweight champion of the world. Theo is joined by Iron Mike Tyson for a special live recording from the Wiltern Theater in Los Angeles. They talk about the good (and bad) influences on Mike’s life early on, how he used his own hardships as a motivator, and the time Michael Jackson dissed him at a party.  Mike Tyson: https://www.instagram.com/miketyson/  ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo  Prize Picks: Go to https://link.prizepicks.com/LME0/THEO and use code THEO to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Play Responsibly.  Moonpay: Head over to https://www.moonpay.com/theo  to sign up  Tecovas: Get 10% off at http://tecovas.com/THEO when you sign up for email and texts. Liquid IV: Go to http://liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code THEO at checkout Blue Chew: Discover your options at http://BlueChew.com! Buy two months and get the third for FREE with promo code THEO. Paramount Plus: Check out Dutton Ranch streaming May 15th at https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/dutton-ranch/   Watch on Spotify. Spotify subscribers get fewer ads on our episodes.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/  Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/  Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yang gang, baby. Praise God. Good to see you guys tonight. Thank you for coming out and You know this podcast has given me like just so many little moments of my life that have been so special and Tonight is certainly no different like you know it's rare that you get to get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people in in human history This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world. Okay, the entire world He's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate.

He's been a drug dealer. He's been a... But I'm just saying this is a man who has done. I mean that admirationally, honestly. He's been a father. He's just done so many things. Life has put so much on his shoulders.

And I'm curious to know what it's like to be him. And I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today. I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest is Mr. Mike Tyson. You look sharp, Mike? Thank you. Thank you very much. I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here. I wasn't going to wear a suit. I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp.

Yeah, yeah. I think you did it, man. Do you like dressing up or not? I love it. You do? I do just for no reason I'm in my closet. You're trying on clothes. Yeah.

Like a little, like a little mannequin, kind of, or like a very tough mannequin? No, it's like a real-life stud. It's trying on its clothes. You like putting on stuff. Have you always been like that, or was that kind of? You know, let me tell you a story. One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me

to help them, that's how I fell in love with pigeons, to help me build their pigeon coop. And so I started coming there often, But I was, what, 11 years old, I never knew about washing and changing clothes. My mother would take a hot washing club, put soap on the towel, and just washed me. I never washed myself. So after being on the picnic club, I have tar from building the pigeon coop. I got shit on me.

Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance. And everybody said, yo, John, hey, Winky, they're sure a friend. He got shit on me. Everybody started laughing at me. I started laughing. I was crying. They were talking about me. And ever since that, I became a criminal,

I only bought nice clothes. There's something. Isn't that crazy? I became a criminal about nice clothes and I got a laughing ticket. Now every time somebody says, wow, you look nice. Yeah, you're under arrest, but you look great. Yeah, oh, I love those pictures.

Oh, those are the great one. Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there? He'd become the rogue that we love. It becomes the what is it? The rogue that we love. The rogue that we love. Rogue.

R-O-G-U-E? Yes, sir. Yes. Thank you for joining me today, Mike. I appreciate you, man. And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world. Is it sometimes scary how much you've shared? Like, when you, or so much of it is.

I have to direct you for a moment. You had one made a mistake and called me a drug dealer. I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer because I keep getting high in my own. I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer. I would be rich. Like, anybody wants to buy, the cops, everybody want to buy for me. God, damn.

Oh. I was a, oh, man. I'd have bought Coke from you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. You were going to say what,

I interrupted you. I enjoyed getting high. Didn't high was my life. Alcohol, too, but both of them is my life at one. I love, man. I was sober. I'm sober for nine years, believe that? Sober for nine years, congratulations.

For nine years. On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird? Hey, man, I'm an equal opportunity. I didn't have no favorite. You didn't have a favorite, huh? No. And then it got me out of me, I like.

Anything that got you out of you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's something about being yourself. It just gets to be too much, doesn't it? Too much power, man. God gave me more than you can handle. You think that God put too much power in your hands?

No, no way. God broke me before he crowned me. Of course, I'm going to be able to have it. You know, do you. Say, hey, you're a cool kid. Take that, poof. He doesn't do that. You know, I've sat across from, like, different folks.

But nobody, I think, has had, like, on their own face has so many, like, you have a lot of scars on you that are just built into you from, like, wars, right? Do you ever look at your own face and you can know, Do you know, like, which ones are from which fights and stuff? I think, you know, listen, that's interesting that you said. I think it comes from an accumulation of fighting. You know, you don't wake up overnight and you got a line on your face. It comes after the year, the year they're waking up,

and you say, oh, I got a line of my face. Okay. Which was the start, which you started 10 years ago. But you haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of get worn in, sort of. Well, absolutely. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

You have a documentary that you're starting that's coming out this year on Netflix. Is that right? I believe so. I don't know when it's coming out, but I believe it's coming out of same. Okay. You've done a lot of documentaries.

Do you feel different about this one? Like, what do you feel like there's something different to offer now to people that are going to consume it? That's interesting that you said. I'm going to give you an honest answer. There's things that people believe that other people, People want to hear from me that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews. So it's more their perspective than it's my perspective.

I may think it's shit. Yeah. They may think it's a masterpiece. So, no, I'm serious. Yeah, no. I'll hear you. You know, most of us don't like ourselves on to, you know. We don't like ourselves up to that much, you know.

You know, the people do, I guess, right? You can't help with that you're very, that everybody came to see you and you're very popular. You can't help that. Not your fault. You think it's your fault, really, that you're like this? No, not to this. No, I think it's interesting. Yeah.

Me too, yeah. Yeah, I can tell that you feel that way. If you had a, if there was a time in your life that you could go back to and had a documentary crew, that just in your own life, like in your childhood or anything, that you could just have that footage. What would it be? Would it be when I first met my mentor customer, though? I mean, first one, I meant when I first. Like you mean the first.

Like you mean the first day? When I first got in trouble and I was in that juvenile detention, I was doing stuff there, and then I started boxing and started changing my life. Then I met him. That's the part I wish you could come back. Yeah? I missed that. What was it about it that?

I don't know. I had somebody I loved that they loved me. How did you know that he loved you? Oh, fuck. Don't even tell me. He, um, if anybody say something, that. If anybody say something. No, it's okay.

No. It's only no. Sometimes it's hard to know No, if anybody say something negative about me, he would attack them 75 He would attack So we protected you

Yeah And why you're having to talk about this bullshit It's stop Stop What? Stop, motherfucker Stop Yes sir

Yes sir Shouldn't the bell Shouldn't we go back to the quarters for a minute No, I think it's just interesting. Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of like hold you up out of neck and like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks

and stuff like that and give you a place to be. Everyone needs a mentor in their life. Everybody. Even if you've got a bad mentor, that's better than having no mentor. What was it like with Cuss outside of the ring? What was that like?

What was that energy out? Because their family adopted you or no? Yeah. He did. Yeah. Did you have your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did? You had to earn it. I had to earn it. How did you earn it?

Like, what was that like you mean? I had to do my chores, you know, get my grades up. You know, I'm getting C-minuses, so I'm getting Ds now. I'm getting Bs. I'm coming up. Teachers are writing nice letters back at home. I'm improving all that crap. So, yeah, he loves that stuff. And was there stuff around the house that you had to do?

Like, what kind of choice? Oh, I cleaned the dishes. I took up the garbage. I mopped and sweep the floor. Yeah, I did the whole thing, man. Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess? Well, I felt I had the home.

And that was the structure I had, doing my tour, it was me building my discipline up. After every train, every time I finished training, I had to mop and sweep the gym, sleep and mop to gym. Even when I was a big shot,

I'm getting the front cover of Sports Illustrated. I'm taking all the pictures, boom, all day, the cameras, everybody's looking at me. At the end of the day, they're booming the mark. Yeah. Do the gym.

Amen. Whenever, because he passed away, how long was he in your life for? Since I was 12, so I was 19. And when your career grew, did you guys, did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him? Like, did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy that you, that it was tougher to?

You know, let me explain something. He was like my father. He was my adopted father, legally adopted father. I wasn't out of his sight much. He didn't let me out of his sight much. He watched you all hung out. He was my everything.

If anybody said something negative about me, he had to duck these don't want to punch. He was just like that. And had you felt that before in your life you think or no? Never, never. If he told me to kill somebody, I would. No, I'm telling me, that's how it was. That's how deep it was.

He said, kill that, but he's dead. Yeah, tight shit, man. People, hey, people got to go. Yeah, no, but that's the, I'm just keeping it real. That's real talk. That's real talk. So the connection was that it was just that much. Yeah, sure.

After he passed away, did you try to find, like, another, like, custom model? There's nobody else like him. But was there a part of you that was looking for something like that? Not like that. No, it doesn't exist. That part was filled in? Yeah. He was born only for me.

He was what? He was born only for me. Oh, you feel like he was made for you? Oh, that's awesome. And he probably felt that about you, I bet. Well, I hope so. I hope so. Have you had the opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life?

Or do you feel like you have some of the same, like, capabilities that he had? It takes a special person to be that type of person, and we're all special in different ways. I'm nowhere near the person that he was. No, we're born from two different structures and fibers. He's just a total disciplinary. and the Yuga Hart. He's just, he almost wants to be perfect. He hardly makes any mistakes around people.

He won't do any. He just wants to be right at every moment. You know, he puts himself in position to be right. He's just, I can say, megalomaniac, but he was just a disciplinary in person. Sometimes he'll go with your salary eating. He just, just has to have us eating for a week. Sometimes he what?

I'm sorry, I'm going to hear my mind. He just may stop, stop eating for weeks. Just stop. Just stop. My wife's the same shit. You got this and here, listen. And Mike, she was flagging me from back there. Was she really?

She was. Oh, that's so bullshit. I knew that, right? You see, I knew that shit. I know this shit. Kiki, do you love me? She loves you. That's what it's like.

If you love somebody, you got to keep them clean, you know? I hear you. Can you say that last part? though, he was such a disciplinarian. Was he disciplined in his own life? Like, did he, like, did he ever... He was in World War II. Okay, so he was very...

He almost had an institutionalized disciplinarian. Like, when I'm going to the school dance, and it's like, what, three miles away and the taxi's a little... Lay, I say, cut the taxi's going to be a little... Lay, I can't stand for you. Run home now! I went to girl,

with the way for the cab, but I said, baby, you got away for the cat. I got my shoes. I'm running home. Did you really? I got to run home, yeah. And in dress shoes, probably for the dance? I got to run.

I got to run them. Get home now. Run. Click, click, click, click, click. Dang, right. It's hard to keep a girl when you acting like that. I was too, yeah. I was extreme.

It was hard to have a girl. I was too extreme with training. What was your relationship, like, was it easy for you to relate to girls when you were young, like to date and that kind of stuff? No way. It was, listen, it was all about fighting. It was all about fighting

Oh, so you really said, you weren't even trying to date or anything as a youngster? Yeah, I dated kind of late in life Yeah, because I was, I just started filming up with fighting. I talk to a girl, I'm talking about fighting, she's talking about what? Yeah.

Yeah, they don't want to see you shadow boxing, yeah. Because they want to hug. I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them. No, no. They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they wanted to talk deep. I want to talk about fighting. You loved it that much.

When you... Yeah. I loved it. I loved it. Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think, fighting? I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fighting, I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's names. I wanted them to root my name one day.

Yeah. That's cool, huh? Did you feel... Like, yeah, why did you... Like, it's interesting, some people had this feeling they need, they want somebody to see them, right? Or they want to have... They want to have a say in the world. Like, did you feel like you, like, weren't missing part of that?

Like, were you not being seen? Or do you... No, I guess, one of the customers. I told me I'm the greatest fighter since the beginning of life. So, I was 12. He told me that at 12. And you believed him? Yes.

Because you trusted him. Yes. Wow. That's pretty powerful that it would just be able to, you'd be able to envelop that that much. No. How can you pick a kid, 12-year-old? Tell him, you're the greatest fighter in the world. Are you looking at him like he's some...

old perver guy trying to do something you know trying to, you know, I'm with me I'm a thief, I'm a crook I'm at some fucking world greatest fighter of all times I thought this is some kind of trick

the Jews, the youth sense was trying to pull on me. Oh yeah, yeah, those youth centers. So this guy turned out to be the real deal and I turned out to be my guy, I ain't like whatever that fuck people think I am. Yeah, so he was the real deal. Do you think if you hadn't

a head like, because, you know, I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid and having like, you know, your mother passed away when you were young. And when I've talked about some of that, I'm just saying things that I... You can talk about anything. Okay.

Those are just some things that I know about you, right? I don't know you, but those are things that I know about you. I may think you know about you. You'll figure them out now. Okay. Oh! Ding, ding, ding! All right, all right, that way.

Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us. And with me. Thank you. I didn't think I was going to like you. You've been a good project. Really? Thanks, bro.

I appreciate that. My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him. I was feeling, I'm going to worry about. I said, don't judge him. She's got a very, you could tell she's a very, she's a good soul of your wife. Yes, she did. She believes in you.

Yes, she does. Do you think that you, if you'd have been, if you'd have had the things you needed as a child, right? Like the things that every child needs, right? Like, the... I don't want that. Stay away from me. Keep that shit away for being.

I like to suffer. You like the way it went? I love to suffer. I don't want no good time. Right. Yeah. Oh, you like the discomfort. Oh, yes.

I like being out of me. You know, getting out of my comfort zone. But if you'd have had those, like, if you had the stereotypical things that people... I would be a bitch. Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world? No. Wow. The heavyweight bitch of the world.

I know, I'd be wearing slippers during the day probably. I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day. Yeah, my mother was, my mother would baby me, wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff. No, it wasn't meant for me to have my mother. Did she baby as a kid? Like, what was she like? She was a drunk.

She was a prostitute, but she was who she was. You know, my mom, uh, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid, like she couldn't look at me. because... What's wrong with you? I know. You know something that we don't know?

I don't know shit. But something was wrong with her. She just couldn't... Like, something out. Like, when my mom was growing up, like her dad, like, would make him, would make them, like, put his food under the door. He would not talk to my mom for, like,

for months at a time. And he would go in and out of their house through the window. That sounds like a mental illness. Yeah, right, a mental illness for sure. What they called now, I'm into illness. Right, right. At the time, yeah, it was just like kind of a reverse drive-thru.

Yeah. I got my good with your dad, I swear. But anyway, I'm just saying, like, there was just like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right? Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself, I made that decision. Like, I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds,

and since then I was an adult, I don't care if I was two months old. Does that make any sense to you? Exactly. You know, my wife is kind of charming and she believes that we ask for our parents. Then when I start believing, I said, if I didn't have the parents I had, I would never be me. I said, she might have something. I'm saying it now. She may have something there. I did pick those parents. If I didn't have those parents, I would be fucked up. She might be right.

What's a nice memory that you have with your mom that was like something you think about that was kind of like a moment that you kind of cherish. It was one Christmas day, and my birthday was on Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on Christmas? I don't know how we got some money, but it was just a festival. Her and her friends, they had food there,

and we were eating food, and we had never had that much food before, and I don't know how they got the money. I know it was something skoldugger issues, but I'm sure... Skulldugger, a little bit of skoldoggery? Yeah, so I'm sure something that broke the law, but it was just a great moment, you know.

And that's why I was accustomed to, I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick up guys, the rob, all being over my mother's house and stuff, because we were the house of crime. I lived in a house of crime. Where did you sleep? Did you have your own room? No, come home home. I slept on the floor and a blanket somewhere.

Dang. The bed for the... For the Johns? For the Johns. Yeah. Exactly. I was everything for the tricks. But yeah, the John, the bed belongs in.

We got a bell. You for real. I would know if my brother or sisters heard me, they bring back memories soon. A bad day. A trip. You slept on each other's backs. One person had to lay down flat and the other person got to sleep. And then you switched.

We didn't do that. We had slept on different parts on the floor. But, you know, you had the, if it's hot, you had the air conditioning dinner. You turn the big fan. Oh, dude. I remember. My mom. would only let it be 80 degrees in the house, right?

And I'm like, well, that, and at the time, when I was a kid, I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right? And so, we would go get the cold water and we would just put it all over the sheet, and then we would lay on it like that. Make a little beach go to Florida. But it was fun. Listen, right, poverty is just so beautiful sometimes. If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious. Oh, it is. We had some fucking.

Nothing more funny than poverty. Oh, dude. It doesn't matter. It doesn't care how rich or fame as you get it still affects you. Don't get how big you get. Remember this? It comes out. Do you remember this?

Bro, I'll tell you something. This is a little racial, but let's do it because... Go for it. We used to live like, people would burn their trash in the ditch, right? And so me and my buddy, William, we would get out there and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet and we would run and jump through the smoke. in the ditch until we were pretty darkerish, right? And then, bro, we would kind of wait until somebody drove by and yelled the N-word as, but...

Yeah. The N-word, I hate that said, say nigger. Uh-huh? Say nigger. You don't say N-word for a bitch, say niggas. All these people drove by and called us niggas. Wait, wait, hold on. Hey, man.

Do you need me? Do you need me to say, if you need, I don't want to do something. I can't tell what's going on here, to be honest with you. I mean, I'll jump through some. I just need to say one thing and I'd be ashamed. All right? Yeah. I say I'm a nigger lover.

You need me to say it? Yeah. I say, I'm a nigger lover. Go ahead, man. But does it mean all of them? Kind of, a little bit. Even a rotten one. Oh, thank you.

I don't know. I don't know if people think I should do it or not. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Please, please, please, please. Come on, man, that fucking to show up, man. You're fucking to show up, man. You're right, bro. Dang, dude.

Fuck, I just... What can I say, bro? I'm a n-a-lover, bro. God is great, brother. God is great. God is great. Now, hold on. No, who is cheering for this?

I love this show. I love this fucking show. Oh, fuck. Are we going to jail or not? Are we okay? Another knockout from Mike. Here comes the podcast. It's because he's got a new podcast.

He's trying to get me off the charts. That's why. Mike, people are going to be dis- And he's scared to. I don't know if that's a nigga love. I don't know if those are the same thing. Oh. Being a nigga love, that nigger pussy is a motherfucker.

I'm sorry. Forget me, guys. Hold on. I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know. I've had a little. I don't, you know, I don't. A little what?

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Okay. Moving on on. Just guys. Remember that's, dude, remember when Good Times was popping, bro? It was really good time. Dude, I'll tell you a story. So I'm in the airport one time, right? Jimmy Walker, the actor from Good Times, right?

one of the great comedian. He's walking in the airport. Somebody starts yelling dynamite at him. The police thought it was like a... Parifax? Yeah, they didn't see him. Oh, that. They see a couple of bitches yelling dynamite

and they just jumped on him, bro. And I laughed. I could have helped and told people what's going on, but I was in a hurry. You know, I had to get to Cincinnati. Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Dude, Janet Jackson was on there.

Yes. Did you ever get to meet Janet? Yes, I haven't. I did have a chance to meet Janice. And someone said, this is a rumor that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there. Is that true? This is not true at all.

It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar. I'm joking. He didn't tell me that by it. But we knew if he did, he'd lied about it. He tells the truth by accident. Yeah.

I just got to say. He tells the truth by accident. Hey, man. Yeah, it is what it is, dude. But no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson? Because he's such a... Yeah. What was he like as a person? A splendid, beautiful person.

Hit behind all that stuff. He was a beautiful, calm, humble person. And I didn't like him for a long time because my friend had called me. He said, hey, Mike, I'm one of Mike's producers. He said, hey, man, I'm over my face. And once he said, I said, I mean, fuck that, man. He disrespected me. No, I meant, fuck that.

Michael Jackson said all that? I said that. Oh, okay. And then my friend went like this. He said, really? He asked for me to call you. I said, I'll be right there. Boom.

I was right right over the house. What was he like? Was he just like a... He was very shy. He was very humble. He was at the end of his... No, he was dealing with that bad stuff. That child stuff.

He was dealing with that. He was really... And only it was four people at the house. No friend. And it was just him. I got to know him. Ask about two points. But I'm doing fine.

I love it, man. You're beautiful. I thought you're going to be some mullet, redneck. You're beautiful, man. I'm doing all right. I just feel lucky to be here with you today, man. Do you think Michael was, did you think he was involved in that kind of stuff

and you got to know him? Do you ever feel that about him or no? I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him. Got it. Totally different opinion. Dude, I read somewhere. Actually, I didn't read it online to you. One of my friends told me that,

Like he had some girls, but I mean, you was like inquiring or then he's your girlfriends and he said, get your own bitches to you. Oh, he did. Now, I'm not, I'm saying that. I'm going to tell you what happened. Please do.

I went to a Michael Jackson concert with Dog King. He said, come, come Cleveland and meet my babies. And he'll see Michael. So he called him. I want to see. So we walk into the show. The last song, we walk into the arena. We walk down in the middle of the aisle.

He goes like this, the Don King, Don King put his hand up. I go like this, and he puts his hand down. And I say to myself, I know Mike's in here's disson. I said, no, he don't know. He's the big, he's performing. He can't be thinking about me. Of course, not me.

So I go in the back, and I'm in the back. His whole staff is just loving me, love the band guy gave me and sticks. Anybody's going to go over me. Mike's at the corner chilling like this. The door open. I guess he's waiting for a car. He's going to jump in the car. And anybody's all me.

I think, let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know, because I want to go see it with a good night. I go over there. Before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from? This is the biggest moment in my life. I just be Mike who's speaking. The whole world's talking about nothing but me.

And he looks at me and said, what did I know you from? You look familiar. What did I know you from? And I said, no way, Mr. Jackson. I was just a fan. I said, you motherfucker. I said, that was a good one. I hate him ever since.

I hated him everything. If my friend there and called me to come over the house and said, Mike called you, I would have never, I would have been eating him now. Wow. I just believe he said that I'm just a little kid He said that to me You think he was joking and he was dead serious

Wow You're dead serious You think he was very competitive he was He's too competitive He's not friendly with nobody Yeah Especially not in the music business If you don't bend the knee

You gotta bend the knee for Mike Well yeah he didn't even He wasn't friendly even with black folks He freaking ended up No White You gotta be on You know I'm saying

You gotta have an issue If you're like Hey but listen Everybody's going that route now I've seen a bunch of your athletes and singers go that route. Yeah. A black-turned white route.

Yep, that's... Hey, red rover, Red Rover, come on, you know. Send them over, bro. Passing is passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lore stuff. What about Whitney

Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I knew Whitney very well. No way. Yeah, I knew her very well. Was she so cute? She came to visit me in prison. When I was in prison, she came to visit me. She did? You're one of my good friend.

And when was that when you were in prison in New York? I know what the fuck. I'm up in Indianapolis. It's cold. I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at. Yeah, I have a lot of, listen, I had a lot of really interesting visitors. My really interesting people. Whitney came to visit you.

Did she sing for you or anything like that or did she just come and spend time? No, she came. She brought her family. Her and the family came and they hung out with me. Who else came to visit you? I don't know, quite a few people. We had some names and names or something. What about Michael Landon?

He was dead. Was he dead? He was dead then. Oh, so he had cancer back there. So listen. Patrick Swayze. He was dead too, I think. What?

All the white people die in your stories I'm starting to notice that is smiling. Hey, um, Florence Henderson came. No way. The people came, yes. But listen to this. She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole. I had to fight with one of the guards. So I'm not going to come up.

If you come out to, oh, you got to come up. out chains. I said, I'm not going to come out. Like, that's the accident to forgive me. I didn't want to do that. Because you would have, it would have just, you didn't want her to see you like that. I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap. It looks crazy. Yeah. And when they put you into the whole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right, and then one hour of light? Or vice versa, the other way?

No, it leaves the light on all night. Oh, the lights on all night? Oh, that's good. I mean, at least you, in case you get up or whatever. It gives you a fucking headache. Oh, yeah. 24 hours a day for like what 10 weeks? Nah, uh. Yeah. What starts to happen to somebody in there? Like, does it, is it anything helpful?

Yeah. In peace, the solitude is healthy. Very healthy, the solitude. And what's the... Most of us, believe it and not, not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time. You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves. We adore ourselves.

We can't stop up being up and stop being. in our own presence. And I guess that's the way to be, constant happiness and love. Even though we go to the bad, it makes that beautiful too. Yeah, I think, I don't know, in my life,

like, I feel like in my life, my whole life I was waiting for somebody to show up, right? I don't even really exactly know who it was. But then, like, recently, I'm realizing that I think I'm just waiting for me to show up. Does that make any sense to you? I don't want to ask some out this question, You have to get, you know what I mean, that's your narrative.

How does that guy appear? How do you make that guy appear? Right. The first thing that I'm learning for myself, and some of this is pretty recent, is just like having some integrity. Like, you know, if I say, I'm like, because if I say I'm going to do something

and I don't, I hear myself do that, right? And so after a while, I don't even believe myself. I think after a while I quit even listening to myself because it's like, well, how many times am I going to lead myself on, you know? I don't know if that's exactly true, but I think that's the best answer I have for that. It's always the power. It's always the higher power.

I'm from the world that you come from as well, the recovery world. And it's a battle. Some guys sold for 20 years, they all of a sudden, boom, they go to drugs and kill themselves. It's a constant battle. No one's ever a winner to the end of the day,

until it's over and we're dead. Then you won. If you ever do any drugs, and you beat the system. was killing you, you're going to die, boom. But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 30 years and go back. Yeah. You know what I mean?

You just can't believe it. So you're never safe. Yeah, you're never safe. Yeah, nobody's going to get out of here alive. I learned that every had. Yeah, it kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it? It's kind of funny. It gets out of here alive.

As you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit exciting is dying because it's a new adventure. I don't listen. Does that make sense? That makes too much sense. I find death is another part of life we just never experienced yet. You know, if life is good, how death could be bad?

Be honest. If God loves us, how could death really be bad? If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it? If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here? Well, listen, God prepares us. The universe prepares us to death.

You know, little by little, we lose our friend. We lose people we care about We lose our hair We lose our teeth We lose our life It's nothing that happens Spontaneous

You know, it's meant to be Yeah, we lose our ability To be around black people safely Because I've said the N-word And here Yeah You know what I mean Black people love you

You're a nigga lover You got a nigger hater Hey, that's a good point, bro Thanks for looking out for me I hope they're not able To cancel you on this young You shit, we talked about niggers Hey

Niggers always got people who can't know. Oh, it never failed. The nigger will get you. The word, nigger, the word. It's great to see some equality at last. Are you sometimes amazed, like, when you look at your life, how much grace God has had in your life?

I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me. Because I should not be right here talking to you with other people. No, you probably do not, man. Listen, I, really. When I'm in my 30, I said, yes, God did a really dirty trick. He allowed me to live to be 60.

God damn. If I knew I was going to be 60, I'd have played the game. Yes, sir, no man, yes, sir. Fuck, you suck my day. Fuck, yeah. I was that round said. Yeah, you too. Imagine 60 years.

Yes, sir. How you doing, man? You know? Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro. I'd have walked right into heaven, man, sit at my table, yeah, if I'd have been, yeah, I think there's something about, like, when you feel like you're doing everything yourself. Like, did you feel like that as a kid? Like, everything, I'll figure this out. I'll handle it. Like, did you have that, like, chip on your

shoulder? Do you feel like that? When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself. Really? I want to say beautiful things about myself. Customados taught you that? Yes. And what did he tell you exactly? Always say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not. Isn't it wild how there's something No, but I learned that at 12 years old

I had to learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20 You know If I learned it at 15, 60 Hey, it probably wouldn't have worked out there Up in chapter 22 probably Yeah Everything worked out for the right reason What was one of the hardest walks

To the ring you ever had to make? All the walks are the same Pretty much You know, it becomes a routine was there one that like you didn't want it or things had changed or you were like I don't know I'd never been a fighter

I always wanted it because every time I got in the ring when I lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family right you got you're providing for your family for sure that's all I know how to do when did you um when did you become an adult

excuse me oh that happened late in life that happened real late in life man I can't even tell you man I wasn't a problem of you who, what, 45 or something, oh, dude, I freaking wet the bed or I was 27.

That's mental illness. I was mental illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is. But they don't say that. They just call you Mr. Drippy Drop or whatever. No, they don't call you Mr. Elder. Pithy, pithy cool.

Hey, pitty cool, too, now. They call you a little yellow boy. Hey, yellow boy. But yeah, what do you think made you start to turn, like, finally? Like, I've got to grow up or something, something happened. I'm becoming an adult. Because some guys took my pigeons and bullied me, and that was the first time I fought back. And it was like, love that first fight.

I never stopped fighting ever since. Some guys, they... He killed it, and they put with my bird's head off. What? Yeah, it was a dirty rioting kind. guy back there. You remember him? Yeah.

Who was he? Gary Flowers. Fuck him. Never forget his name. How could he do it? He's a young kid back then, rocking guy, being a bully. I was a little fat kid

that bullied me all the time. Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like had some glandular issues or whatever, I'm not going to break a bird's neck. It's just, that's all about humiliating people. Oh, it was like a humiliation thing. Right, I'm going to make you feel this way.

Oh. Did you ever get him back? Oh, I beat the dog's shit out of it. And that's the best thing I happen because every day I went to four three times a day. I can't stop fighting. I loved it so much. And were you having trouble finding people to fight?

Oh, no. They used to bring people for me to fight for money. Oh, really? Yeah. And so who would get the money? The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much, if you lose, you get this much. So no matter what, you made some money.

You made some money. What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money? I don't know, some weed and some candy. Weed and candy, bro. That's what I'm talking about, bro. The munchies ready for the munchy. They're now and ladies.

Give me now and later. Dude, yeah, but they make your t-stick together. I know, but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you're right. You're high, you don't mind. You know, you have, I know, your teeth is out with you in the gun. You ever did that before? Teeth is out in the now.

Your teeth are in the shape of your teeth are in them? Yeah. It was cool, bro. I like that shit, man. I really like that, man. You ever have some black pussy? What is... I'm just...

I'm just asking, between me and them, please don't respond. I mean, I've had... Yeah, I mean, during the holidays one time, I had a letter. That's true. I'm not talking about no Jewish girl

with a great tan. I mean, a black girl. Oh, I'm talking about some real... Yeah, some of... that freaking, yeah. I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think, yes, I had some, I've had a little. I've had a little.

I have had, Mike. I have, actually. Meaning that you put halfway in and you put it all the way in that. Wasn't that little. You put it in a little? Or you put it in a lot. It's a little when you put it in. It doesn't go in a lot.

Oh. Like, more the hokey-pokey. Okay. You go in, she comes up. But I've had a little, man. I've had a little, and I... Yeah, I would get some more. Yeah, I'd get some more sometime.

You know, God... What's the black woman you dream about fucking, though? What's the body shape? Name somebody's body shape. Well, some black women, you fuck them, and they fuck back, kind of, you know? They got that vagina kind of... It'll fuck you back, you know?

It's almost like when you... The last hundred years ago that I fucked the white girl, she did that, too. Oh, yeah. I do the same thing. But I almost tried to, um, I was flirting with this black lady that worked at the airport for a while, but they said move along eventually. Did you get tickets?

Do you get free flights? No, I did not fly. Why even mess with it is? I'm not going to date no girl at the airport and I'm not getting free flights, man. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't know. Look, man, maybe you'll set me up with a good gal that you know.

I don't know any good girls, dude. I know good time. I know being good girls, like you give it a good time. Did you ever have like a Because Hollywood people steal people's spouse or girlfriends, Did you ever have somebody steal a girlfriend of yours here? I'm sure they did, but I just don't know about it. You didn't?

Yeah. I feel bad actually because I was saying that question, but I knew another question I was going to ask. Asked that. Somebody said that Brad Pitt stole a girlfriend ears one time. No, that's an interesting story, yeah. All right. No, it didn't steal up for me, but

when my wife was going to do a divorce. but we were still fucking, right? Okay. We were always fucking every night. We were still fucking. Then we were fighting in the paper, then we were fucking like. But one day,

I went over a house, the fucker she wasn't home. And then driving up the road with the BMW that I bought her and she had some, I thought it was one of her friends from head of the class. But it wasn't one of her friends. There was some nigger Brad's

pit trying to get some head. Uh-uh. Yeah. That honky was, what? Yeah. White, motherfucker. Damn. Damn.

That honky was trying to slide, huh? The dirty dogs. I love you. The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is funny hilarious, he's beautiful brother. But you called him in the driveway? Yeah, he was beautiful. I was just, I think that I...

Did you punk him a little? No. I guess I... Yeah, he is Bradford. At least if you're if your girl's gonna be with somebody, it's got if it's Brad Pitt, that's you that's okay I guess you right I was okay I was but he wasn't Brad Pitt yet oh he wasn't Brad Pitt yet I didn't know what the fuck he was he was he was just Brad yeah and she was driving him he didn't have a car oh that's some Brad shit Brad never got a car bro name seven Brad to have cars bro

not of them bastards. Yeah. Oh. Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life? I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life. And love is, um, love is so many entities, you know what I mean? Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble? No, I don't have trouble with love. I have trouble with me.

Love has nothing to do with it. Love has trouble with you? No, it's me with the trouble. I have nothing. Love has no beef with me. Love's supposed to do what it does, and I'm supposed to do what I do. You know, and that's what we do.

You think you're hard to love or not? You think you're hard to love? I think that I'm a quiet taste. I'm humble enough to know that I could be replaced, but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is likely. That's true, man. What's up, guys or ladies or fellows? I don't even know.

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and being ironed Mike Tyson and being like this, when you become bigger than you, how did that affect you, like, as a person, do you feel like? I know the truth that I'm never big, I don't never, that's just some form of imagination really being some big star. I know who I am. I know what I've accomplished in life, the good, the bad, you know, but there's not many people, you know, listen, I walk with poverty and I sit with presence, you know. I just, it's not too many things I haven't done in my life, you know. So I just take my life day by day.

I don't make too many clans. You know. I met your wife now, Kiki. Yeah, very interesting person, huh? I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady. You can say she's very interesting. She is very interesting, I'm sure. I don't know her well.

She seems very, she has very kind eyes, and she seems like she really cares about you. So those are things that I noticed. And you guys have some beautiful children. I saw some one of them, I think. Like is here, maybe two. Two. Michael.

Miguel. But, but. Miguel. Miguel. Lo Siento. And in Milan. And Milan. Yeah.

Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're okay, right? Is there, like, what's it like now with her, with this relationship? What's this marriage like? I don't know. It's too perfect. We need a little bullshit in that old thing. Yeah, we're cool. We have a big.

connection, you know. We'd be bullshit every now and then. What's something you really love about her? I just love her being a mother. She's an awesome mother, awesome wife, and the all-around beautiful person. I really hit the jackpot with this monkey. She's your precious.

Where did you meet? Kikiat. I knew it since she was like 1918. Yeah. Is she like a strong woman in the household? Like, what's that kind of energy like? Like, did she make you get up early or anything? No, that's the whole thing.

I don't have to move. What's that? And my wife, I don't have to move. Yeah? Yeah, I don't have to move. She takes care of me, everything. I got the real wife that, you know, cooked for me, bring my food. So I say, if I'm tired, she'll feed me.

I got it going. Oh, you got a queen, huh? Yeah. That's nice. Then she's also my pet, and she's also my tiger, too. She's my defender. So she has that in her, too. Mm.

No, you've got to have somebody that has that. Oh, you have to. There's nobody that has more fury than a woman. And that's just in general. There's nobody that fights more fearful than a woman. Oh, dude, they can make a child. If you were not laid on her back for nine months, we couldn't make shit.

No, no. They could, listen, they could bleed nine months. We get a little cut of the hand. We get affectionate and die. You know? Women are a special breed. Yeah, well, they're wizards. They're damn wizards.

say that, but they are also a great grief. No, that's the biggest gift God could ever give us is a woman. Yeah. The most precious gift God could ever give us as a woman. Yeah, that's the truth. I agree. I agree, man. Hey, this is our show.

Yeah, you heard the man. I think, like, fathering and fame would seem like it's really hard for me. It's miserable. How about your life? I don't have any children again. Oh, God bless you, man. What?

God bless you, because this doesn't work well with children. Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life for people to look at them a certain way or have certain expectations out of them. But I don't fear that that much, but your life has been at an insane amount of that. Like, what was that, did it make it hard for you?

Like, what was it like fathering and having your life? Like, in the fame? I don't know. My kids have a great life. and if they ever started complaining, they should think about it. They should have my father. Then they would have a right to complain.

They do not have a right to complain. My kids go to the best school, the work to offer. They had the best opportunity to work offer. It's up to them to take advantage of it. Where was your father from? North Carolina. Oh, dude, no way.

I'm going to forget Wilmington this weekend. Charlotte, he's from Charlotte. Oh, Charlotte? Charlotte's okay. I don't know. You have it? I'm fine with it. I will tell you this story. So one time I was in Charlotte, right? And I hadn't been there before. My friend and I were sitting on a patio. We were just getting something to eat. And I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage out there, right? And I thought, and they were wearing like a couple of different like shawls or like rugs,

almost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage. And I thought it was a, like a homeless guy, like almost like a French homeless guy, right? Because he's French? Well, just he was a very color It looked like, dude, it was French and North Carolina? Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff, they seem very Frenchish.

Very Frenchish. And, yeah, French. It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street. Are you serious? I swear, that is the true story. And that's the truth that I... It was him, dude, I'll keep looking.

I'm like, damn, that got the most beautiful, elegant homeless around here. They were really viving. And then I'm like, I saw people run up and get photos and it was him to and he just had a newborn child. And he was taking it for a little afternoon stroll out there

by the McCormick and Schmix out there. You have anybody who you're in love with? Do you have anybody I'm in love with? Yeah. I mean, I'm crazy. Where is it going to say? Nobody off the top of my hair.

Yeah. You're not with a woman right now? No, I'm not with a woman right now. Why not kicking them with no one right now? I mean, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying that, yeah. Hold on you. I'm 46, dude.

I'm an adult. You got the fucking hair. You got that fucking hair. As long as you got that hair, you got that advantage. Yeah. What's the heck, go, God. That hair is serious pussy advantage right there. The hair.

So how about the hair? If you'd have had hair, you'd think you'd have been, you'd have been even more handsome? If I had hair, I wouldn't be married. I'd be in lawsuits and all that shit. You're buying lawsuits? That's crazy, bro. The hair is power. That's why.

When they did that about Samson County, because really here is power. Well, even when they used to scout people and stuff and take their hair, they were taking, you know, that they were taking, you know, that's why I grew my hair. The hair represent power. That's why they always try to cut your hair. You're not like a animal.

Cut your hair. Cut your hair. Keep your fucking hair. Yeah, bitch, I want to be an animal. Yeah, keep your fucking hair. Because once you lose your hair, you go, always the guy says, oh, it's like God, I was out of the way. No, it wasn't in the way, motherfucker.

You wish you had your hair back. It was the only thing that was in the way of you being a little bitch. That's the only thing that's going to run, huh? Let that hair grow. Don't care how much you grow. Let it grow. Ray, that shit. Let the people say, oh, you're an animal.

You can get a job. You can get a job with a lot of hair now. Yeah, you can get a job at a car car car. You can get a job as a mechanic's assistant. Anything. Anything. that makes more money than the average person by far. Yeah.

Bro, you could just brush your hair online and dudes will pay to watch you do it. You know, listen, that online thing is either the best thing a pedophile could ever dream of or this is the biggest hit in the world. One of the other. It's the worst, bro.

Do you see times change, bro? Same. But, like, how bad? Like, things are not bad, but things just gotten so much. It's gotten away from the moment. Everything became sexual lately.

Everybody's worried about who's sleeping with who. Everybody's worrying about who genders, who, and who looks like this. And it's all about that now. Yes. There used to be so much more, I think, I don't know, when you couldn't record everything, the moment was so great.

Because then also, if I needed to know a story, the only way I could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well. Yes. And so that person had like, I don't know, they had an ambiance about him. There might be a dude in town. All he did was tell one good story or no one.

That's happened since the beginning of life. Yeah. And now it's suddenly different. Yeah. And now we're at people out here losing their minds and shit. Killing themselves, hurting themselves. Mike. Dude, nobody killed themselves.

When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves. If you were angry or depressed, you just listen to heavy metal and walked around town. Remember that? Yes. But, man, it's just interesting that people are doing that now. We're sick, though. There's something poisoning us. Do you agree with that?

100%. I know the government know what it is. Yeah, I ain't telling. You know, because death is profitable. You know, people cash in on your insurance and all that shit. Death is very profitable. Even at the morgue, dude, my buddy freaking died. They put new shoes on them, charge his family $300.

I'm like, bitch, he's wearing them for 50 minutes. Just get a rental. and they got a whole fresh hair. That's crazy, man. But I agree there's something the government knows, man. So now people are going to have to rise up. Something's going to have to happen. Do you believe that people have that in us still?

I believe... I believe this. I believe there's some people, even if they're elite people, they have money and have the resources to live longer, healthier. You know? Imagine being 90 and living healthy. You can still run. You can still fuck.

You can still do things. Family. Jump, false over. Exactly. No serious. Yeah, I feel you. You think that's possible for some people right now

and they're hiding in the house. Right now, absolutely right. Absolutely. Because the bullshit that I use now, all this. Metatize and all this shit, they can't, you know, it's just crazy.

Yeah. Feel young. That's all, that's why I'd be going to fight and do it. I feel good. Next thing they're going to give you something. They kind of guy, now, that thing you sniffing makes you smarter.

What is it? I don't know what they... No, listen, you're laughing now, but when it comes out, you can say, Mike was talking about that. You'll be hitting that shit in that, yeah. I don't know if you get too smart, you might have a fucking brain collapse, right? Plus an an aneurysm or something. I don't want to...

There's a lot of shit I don't want to know. Dude, the smarter I get, I feel like the more I heard of, bro. No, but listen, they got stuff. Check this out. Imagine somebody said, I have something to this needle that it'll make you last 30 more years strong or make your thick, their heart, for 24 hours, or something like that.

That's what people are working at. Whatever our biggest kinks are. It'll be sex, it'll be alcohol. They give you a shot there's no more alcohol in your life. No more drugs for your life. It's all about the, it's going to be all about the needles soon and pills. The needles and pills. Were you ever a needle user or not?

Well, I used a lot of needles. Yes, I have. Yeah, I used a lot of needles. Just because that's a different barrier. When you go in a drug use, like, I've used a lot of stuff. I've never used no needles. I've used, like, steroids, but I never used, like, like, you know, shooting up, like, whatever it's called. Heroin.

Yeah. Yeah, I never used it. Now I wish I would have smoked crack. I will say that. Who? Stere with them crack. Really? You don't normally come back.

Does it really? Won't you go crack? Come back. What was it? Did you ever get to smoke it? I did once. Oh, no. This was going to be fucking crazy.

I'll tell you this. Please do. So one day, I'm, and I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high. I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer. And he gets my probation officer.

He gets my test, a blood test. I'm even thinking. And he comes back. I come back, he said, we just test you for, crack, but I could tell her, what do they call him? What do you call it a crackhead?

Oh, uh, crap. A what? Tweaker? He's tweaker. He said, yeah, but I got, I had it in me, but he said, yeah, I know it's tweaker, you're not a twer, that's a force test. I said, fuck. He knew by sight? Yeah, he said, I could tell a tweaker, he said, you're not a tweaker.

Because it was by accident, I didn't know it was the crack. Oh, it was just in there? Yeah, I took it, but I was the guy telling me. I didn't know. And the cops said that to be saying, yeah, you got a forced test, but I could tell the tweaker, you're not a tweaker. Amen.

I'm glad. Thank you for telling me that word tweaker. Thank you for the tweaker, God. That's good stuff. And I said, fuck. That guy gave me that shit. That's the thing. You don't know what you would get.

Exactly. My name's that was fentanyl and I'll be dead as a motherfucker. You got out before fentanyl, thank God. My wife would tell you, right? It came out of the news that Mike died from a drug overdose at his party. And my wife started with that. It was on the news. And the only thing, I come in the house a couple hours later,

my wife screamed at me, cursed at me, oh, fuck, I'm high. I just left the house and kept running. It was a false story? Yeah, it was a news, too. My wife saw me and hit me. I got his guy out of the house. I left, hey, left. Oh, she was pissed.

Even if he was alive, she was pissed? She was pissed. She was alive. Honey on her mother. Damn, brother. And her mother was pissed, too? Yeah, and I don't know. They're crying and everything.

They think I'm dead. They check in my mom. morning and shit and for the hospitals, and I walked through the door high. I'm coked up high and drunk. I just left out, fuck this shit. These motherfuckers, they don't love me. Dude, yeah, do you ever have those days

where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not? Yeah, absolutely. So listen, I'm, I'm going to tell you this bullshit story. So I can't get any sleep. So I'm calling the person. My nose hurt like a motherfucker. Right? It's, ah, I'm seeing my nose, and I'm going, ah.

And so I'm calling the person, and I'm saying, my nose is hurt. I'm fucking, I can't sleep. I've been up for four days. My nose is hurt. I got scars on my nose. She said, the nose hurts. She said, you got to cook. I said, hit, hit.

I took a hit. I said, wow, that feels better. I never knew. I had to coke all the way. I just took a hit. And nothing to that. It was a numb anymore to start bleeding and got sores. I had to take another hit to numb it up.

Oh. Those nights are the worst, huh? Oh, man. The worst, bro. Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital or did you have a private doctor? Yeah, this is true. Oh, God.

Listen, I go to my doctor, right? Your doctor, hold on. Let's say, let's get a radical boss from Mike's doctor, bro. I go to my doctor, man. I go like that. I said, I'm a lady spill of my doctor, and I'm going to quit cocaine right now. And he's checking me, right?

He's giving me, you know, checking out. And he said, how are you doing? I say, Doc, you know, I'm feeling bad. I need to quit. And he said, what? I said, I need to quit Coke. You said, really? You take out a lot later?

I said, yeah. He said, you have some more on you? I said, can I have some? I said, can I have some? I said, fuck! The doctor! My brother, this is on my children's life. And I'm like, fuck!

I'm trying to get help I'm talking to the doctor about I got a problem and you have someone now and they're going to have something and they took it was it was that?

No, I go to I go to rehab now right they put me in rehab and this is what I do the guy the rehab staff right comes up here

and he tells me all the rules and then I try to be a good guy I give him my Coke the last bit of Coke you know only I was doing Coke before I came you know before you go rehab you get really high

yeah so I I really wanted to get so. I gave him the Coke, my last Coke. I said, yeah, I got some Coke. He said, oh, you have some. Then he went, and then next time I saw him, he started acting funny. I said, I took my Coke because I was some good Coke.

I wanted to be a good person and give it up. The motherfucker took my Coke. So I said, hey, man, you took my fucking Coke. You got to start letting me have girls come over and say, let me have girls come over. At the rehab? Yeah. What? My right hand of my children's life, man.

Oh. You listen, I can't make shit like this stuff The rehab guy said, oh, you got coke And I say, and I give it a No, I don't want to get hiding with her I'm trying to look clean Let me go away from him He comes back acting weird

Yeah I said I know this motherfucker They didn't take my coat I got mad Because I should have kept that shit then Type shit back off Man, I got so fucking mad Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story

So one time my friend We're getting out of an Uber He dropped some coke Right And I didn't know he did coat and I didn't know I did coke, right? I'm in there. So I pick his coke up.

I'd never seen it before I just saw this little bag in it. I've registered pretty quick. This is probably cocaine, right? And so we go inside. We're staying at my buddy Kevin's house. We go inside and he starts saying, hey, will you help me look for something? But he won't tell me what it is

because he doesn't want me knowing that he's doing. He doesn't want to give me that. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. So I keep sneaking off and doing the code because we're looking really hard, right? Bro, after like two hours, he goes to sleep. I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro.

And I forgot what I was even looking for, but I kept looking, bro, because that's who I am. I'm committed. I'm that motherfucker that will ride with you, Mike. I got to tell you this story about cocaine, okay? Okay. I'm in, first I'm in Jamaica, right? And I leave Jamaica, I'm hanging out with Jamaica, hang out there.

And I go to Cuba for, you know, it's very close. Hour, half an hour. Did you get to meet Fidel in Cuba or not? No, interesting. You know, check this out. So I'm in Cuba, right? I'm hanging out. And so God meets me, hey, you're Mike Tyson, right?

Yeah. Hey, Mike says, what's wrong? Is everything? Yeah, I have a lot of money. Yeah, I have a lot of money. Yeah, you need a girl. This is a possibility. Yes, I do.

You're fucking genius, right? So he takes me, listen, but you guys, he takes me around this. It's nothing but bricks and rocks and abandoned. It's like a bomb at the business. Discussed. And I'm like, I think this guy's setting me up to get mugged or something here, right? And all of a sudden, this beautiful girl, she had ragged clothes. She comes out of this fucking, the clap, the lappaday, the building that looks like a hip-by-a-bomb.

Nobody lives in there. This is all the band-in shit. And she comes out. I said, what the fuck? Wow. Yeah, but. This is why I'm talking about Castro. You know, the natives there were unable to live in the hotels there.

The people that live in the residents? Because they don't want to talk to people that are visiting? I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel. The Castor allowed me to take people to my hotel. They let me do whatever I wanted to do a while. Yeah, it was really nice. I think I had a fight there. I did bottles.

I didn't get arrested or nothing. You're telling people leave me alone, let me do what I want. Damn. Anybody else would have been throwing bottles and stuff from Cuba, they would have got fucked up. They had been in the hospital, then there had been in the infirmary, then there would have been in jail.

What made you want to go to Russia? Because that was kind of like, like why, you know what I'm saying? I don't even know, first of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia? Yes. Did they really? Because they never put them on, like, the websites or anything.

Like, no, they came to Russia. Like, no, they came to Russia around 1909. Black people did? Yeah. You know, and I met black, Ukraine, I met black Russian. It was really amazing shit. Wow. Yeah.

Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right? No, until they start talking. Yeah. Wow. Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro. This is a true thing. You might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black and then father might be white or something.

African or something. Well, you just realized that, like, oh, there's so many people out there. Like, when I was in my little town, I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right? Listen, let me tell you something about Russian people and Ukrainian people, right? Listen, no, yeah, I'm up there, right? And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right? Some call girls? Yeah, supposedly call girls.

They're escorts. They call them. Yeah. And listen, I'm saying to myself, I want to talk. I talk to my friend in Yugoslavia. She talks Yugoslavia. She talks to me there. I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China.

She talks to the Chinese. The common call girl was speaking around seven languages. Yeah. A call girl in America can't even speak English. Yeah. Can't speak a home language. These are my call girls speak seven languages. I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here to America?

She's going to be a Fortune 500 country. I'm telling you, she speaks eight languages and stuff. Been to the best school. She's a call girl. Dang. I'm like, whoa. And women here, they barely will even learn even one language or even one and a half languages. They're not even going to learn how to cook.

Yeah. What do you mean? Language, they don't go how to cook. Dude, some women can barely use it even emojis. I don't know how to use it either. Yeah. But still, you shouldn't have to, dude. you're Mike Tyson man

No I'm not saying women here have it made Women here have it made The other country You can't have a say of nothing Yeah I guess yeah I guess I don't realize how bad Like women have it pretty bad In Japan you see mostly women

They're in prison in Japan Because they killed their husband Nuh Majority of them yeah He can't stand the abuse anymore Some damn Japan You imagine

Because they're so peaceful a lot of times We had a Japsidese substitute teacher, and he didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us. That's how nice he was. We didn't learn anything. That's how scary he was. That's how scary was.

We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us. You fought in Japan against, was it, who was it? I had two fights in Japan. He had twice. Buster Douglas and someone else, Tony Tufts. Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship? I lost the 10%

Oh, damn, sorry No, me sorry I'm happy I got $40 million Hey, you got $40 million? $35, yeah Wow Same shit though

Yeah, sorry, bro I'm round it even Yeah Dude, that's so wild bro But before that fight You weren't Did you,

Were you training his heart Or were you just like Living their life? I was living in the life But he fought a great fight Yeah He thought a great fight Dude, I remember we were like, I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time,

and somebody had bought the fight with, like, a projector, and they projected it on the side of, like, a building, and everybody came downtown and watched it, dude. It was awesome, bro. It was a good time, man. It was like, when you fought, it was like, it brought everybody. It was like watching the Challenger blow up. Everybody showed up, you know?

The Challenger did, bro. Remember that? Everybody watched the whole television, that whole day, watched it over and over you. that's like those guys that went in the water with those submarine and it combusts. It's like, boom! Yeah.

He took his sundown down. This guy took his sun down there. But they went down there in a fucking Mac Nugget. You know that shit's going to happen, dude. Bro, it said cutlass on the side of it. It was a Delta 88. I'm like, you got in that bitch? They just, like, I don't want to, I shouldn't say that.

They're good people. They got smashed. They didn't even feel it. Woo. They didn't feel it. That's tight, boy. because I hate even getting in a small shirt. You ever put a small shirt on and you can't even get out of it?

I like being a small shirt. I'm popper. If you might Tyson. Yeah. Dude, I went to Holtz funeral, man. Did you really? Yeah. Tell me about that.

It was pretty special, man. Well, it was a lot of things. It was like. What was it at? Right outside of Tampa. Right outside of Tampa. And, well, one thing that was interesting, Jim McMahon was there, but nobody knew he was there. and then at one point he came out, like...

Benz McMahon. Yeah. You ever met Jim McMahon? That's his father. No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears, remember him? Oh, he's badass. Yeah, he had that mullet, dude. He showed me his freaking butthole one time in Palm Springs at a casino for no reason.

No, it was a reason. No, that was. It was the reason. He figured you out. He's saying it too high He's like the quarterback He's a great quarterback, great perception The quarterback perception

Ooh But look at this receiver Yeah That's crazy, dude But anyway, you're right Keep that whole open Tell me about him showing you that bottle Tell me about that

How does that appear? What caused it? Well, nobody was expecting it It was just like a regular night And have you ever hung out with him before? I never met him before. And he was drinking beers and he kept

he was saving all the cans. I think he was like he's like a um what's it called when you care about the nature when you're like an asshole asshole like he was don't be saying that if he had a lawsuit you saw his asshole. I saw it

it was dark I mean but Jim McMahon you're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit this man saw your asshole What? Dude, why are you? You said you saw the asshole. He may think differently. Oh, well, look.

He may say, that was a cheek. That wasn't an asshole. Mike is working in, now you working for an attorney's office. I know who did it. Was it a cheek or an asshole? I don't know, man. Damn, you tricked me.

I just said, I don't know. What? I knew it was a little while ago. You're right. I'm not sure. It was shadowy out. But I do remember we were by the pool, and it was nighttime. But anyway...

He saw him open up some cheeks, right? He spread his cheeks. Right, but everything in my just like mind, I guess, thought there was an athlete. What did he say? Come get it, guys. No. Come on, guys. No, he wasn't saying anything like that.

He was telling a joke about his ex-girlfriend or something, and then he said, and then he said the punchline. I don't remember it. And then he kind of showed his blood hole. at the end. The running back, he said, come run up in the head. Who's the running back for his shelf? Oh, who was the running back at the time? It wasn't Peyton, was it?

No. Sayers? No, Sayers was earlier. He was too old. Was it? No, it wasn't really? And 85 Bears was Peyton? Run up in here, Big Taylor. Come on. Come on, Walter. Get over here, Walter. You're like that, old. I didn't mean to see it.

But yeah, anyway, let's move on. But here's what I'm going to say is. So Vince McMahon comes out there. Nobody knew he was at the funeral. And it was wild because they had guys like... Yeah, well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right? But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there and they were kind of broken down, you know, somewhere in wheelchairs and some were like, some people had urns of other like,

of guys who had passed on. They had their ashes just they brought them. But Vince McMahon got up and he did like, he played Hulk's music and he did all like a lot of his like things, you know? And then he made like a speech and then he disappeared. here, but it was everything. It was like, you know, he was so much of my childhood. He was like one of the first person that I ever saw.

Like in our neighborhood, like a lot of people didn't have anything. But when wrestling came on, it felt like you had something. I don't know why, right? It's like a soap opera for kids. Yeah. You know, we know the story. They double teaming them, they cut them up, they put me the sleep, they jump, do them over the rope.

Fucking, yeah. Yeah, all of that. But anyway, so that was like our hero. Like a soap opera. We know it's the storyline. But we, as kids, we thought it, I think you believe it's so real. Oh, 100%. It was so good.

So that was like one of our heroes. So to go was just, yeah, I don't know, it was pretty special. And his son, like, gave a speech. It was nice, man. It was just, but he didn't feel like he passed away because he was, he's so much larger. Did he ever talk to Hope on the show? Yep. And I'll tell you this.

When I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand, I was like, that's the, that's the strongest person I'd ever, like, could we give us, like a mini hook. I walked out, I said, I walked out, I said, this is the strongest person I've ever given him any hug to. The second strongest was Hulk Hogan. Really? Yep. Hulk was massive, man. He was a big star.

He was just such a big star. You could never imagine how big he was. Who was like a hero, do you like that? Like, in the... Bruno San Martino. Bruno San Martino? That was my hero, my guy. Wow.

He could beat every champion for 12 years. Yeah, he could beat everybody. He was champion. Listen, I was seven. until I was like, what, seven, until like 20 almost. Yeah. He was a legend, man.

Yeah. I got to interview one of the Von Ericks one time, Kevin Von Erick. I don't know if you remember. They died of four. Yeah. Oh, listen, man, I'm a historian. Don't play with me now. Yeah.

Ask me some questions. I'm a historian. I have read, actually, that you, like, studied a lot of, like, like, you really enjoy, like, philosophy, like Tolstoy, Alexander the Great. Who were some, like, famous warriors that you admire the most kind of in history?

Oh, all of them, Achilles, Alexander, Hannibal. It was just El Cid. There was just so many different concepts. You say, why do you want to do this? Because, you know, why? Someone don't want to be God. They believe if I control all this world, if I control the world, I'm a God.

And they said at the end of the day, they realized they were nothing, you know? But can you even relate? to that? Did you ever have a time in your life because our ego is one of the scariest things, right? You can only play with the thought of it. It's not sincere, not real.

Yeah. Only way you're a guard, if you live forever, you're immortal. You know, but we have demigards now. Now we have authors that turn people in the guards. Like, what do you mean by that? Some people would never be forgotten, Napoleon, all these guys. They know your history.

have to know these people. They're part of history. We can't know our history if we don't know these people. That's what makes them godly. Oh, only if we know them. You'll never get to know them unless you read about them. They're only in special places to know their identity. Did you, like, what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego?

Because, like, ego is just so scary, right? I don't know. My ego is so personal, you know. I don't know how to even consider. I just want to do better than before. I don't think I have... You know, I do think I'm Alexander the Great sometimes. I know, I kill what I think I am.

And what are you talking about? Like, you do, like, you're dressing up in the bedroom, what you're doing, a little role playing? Put on that ATG hat, it says ATG on it? No, it's just that the way I conduct myself. He was a cancer, too, my Alexander. And what his downfall was was he's moody. I learned that, and I feel my moods control my feelings.

He was really moody. That was a downfall. What helped you, like, have discipline. Like, say something like that you noticed about yourself. What helped you create, like, some little disciplines like that? The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it. You do that, that's discipline.

And is that something you really practice? That's all I practiced my whole life, even now. Did you always love fighting, Or did you hate fighting? No, I loved it. I loved the concept of fighting. I loved the fighters. I was so,

I wanted the greatest fighters of the world and know my name. I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kissed their hands, kiss their feet. I loved them. I worship them.

I believe that they touched me. They have some magic on me. So I was going to be around. I carried their bags for them. I gave them money. When I became a big time fighter, always gave them money because they normally broken down

and they'll have no money. You know, most of them have, dementia, so always gave them money to care of them. Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia. You feel me to run it right past, friend. But I just thought that... But paying homage, you're saying?

Yeah, I had to pay homage. Because if I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys inspired me to be a fighter. I don't want to be nothing else. Even though I saw that they turned out, I normally would turn out like these guys, nothing begging. I still wanted to be a fighter. I don't care.

I wanted to be in that kind of... I wanted to be in that fraternity. Dude, that's so interesting here. Yeah, I never think about that. It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves. Like, there was so much influence in people that did something before us that, like, let us, no matter what our job is

or what our thing is that we like to do in life. That's interesting, man. I forget about that sometimes. Like, yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much, but sometimes it would be like, oh, like, yeah, I made me. Did you ever think about who you are? how you really got here, what you really consist of. Is there something more than you?

Are we going to see each other again at another time? Are we living in parallel lives? Is this right here going on somewhere else in life? We have so much energy. We don't even know about ourselves. We know everything else, but we know nothing about us. Oh, yeah, dude. I didn't, like, most of my life, I wasn't even me.

I was just, like, some survival mechanism. that had started all. Does that make any sense to you? 100%. That's the first thing that happened. Self-preservation starts first. And then once we get situated, then we try to figure everything else out.

Yeah. Yeah, man, it took forever. Like, it took me probably 30 years, just to exhale, you know? I understand. I understand, brother. And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like,

I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy. I might have to be wanting somebody that worked out like a funny guy. clothing, like a haberdasher or whatever, like a singer. But that was the first thing that I could get people to like. You get attention. Yeah, I see you. And so I couldn't, like, I was just, I, there was, I didn't have another choice.

That formed everything I was, you know? I wanted to be seen so much. I was a little baby and my mother and a friend. Everybody was having fun drinking. I put my finger and drain on and put in my mouth. And I wanted to, I started screaming, everybody grabbed me and took me to the hospital. But I wanted that attention at such a young age. Yeah. Oh, I love going to the hospital, dude, because...

They had good food back then, too. And they give you attention, bro. Yeah. Dude, they had a couple ladies would come in and care about you. Even a gay dude, they slip in there every now and then. But still, bro, that Jim McMahon. Love is love, I think. Hey, bro.

Love is love. I got a question, Mike. Did anybody ever... Because I just got back from Lexington, right? Lexington, Kentucky, and they have the Derby, brace there. And it's a beautiful place. We just shot a special for Netflix, actually, that's coming out in like about two months. So I'm excited about that. But did anybody ever approach you to buy your semen? And I mean that honestly. And I don't mean that in like a negative

word. No, I mean, I gave it away free. Why didn't they want to buy it? Bro. Do, we're giving our busted ass semen away out here. You over there. Dang, bro. I'm free. What? I had no idea they were selling. They were buying. Dude. I'd be a billionaire right now.

You can still... Bro, long as you can still warm up a batch, bro. You can sell it at the merch stand over here. If I was single, I would. Look, that's true. He might have an issue with it. I'd be a maniac. God, bro.

I could give her a couple of ounces for you out back at his joint today. man. I'm happy the way my life is now. Yeah? What's a few things, before we go, Mike, what's a few things that make you, that bring you some of the most joy that you have today? And that can be something small,

it could be anything. Just my children don't have to live the life that I live. That's the only thing that's all I care about. Is it? That's all I care about. Yeah, is that something? And this might even make them strong, but I won't take the risk.

It might kill them, too. Wait, say that one more time for me? I say it might even make them strong, but it might kill them too. Oh, to have to go through the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to take the chance. I like the way they live it now.

Yeah. Well, you did it. Yeah, man, school, a lot of help. A lot of help. A lot of help. Yeah. Yeah, we don't do it alone. Excuse me?

No, no way. No way. You realize real quick, when you have children, you need help. Yeah. You need a lot of help. Thank you so much for joining us today, Mike. I want to say that. You have a one-man show that's going to be try.

That's a live show that your wife wrote. Is that right? Yes, she did. Wow. And did she have to get you to sign off? Did they'll do some teamwork or what was it? Sign up for what matter that this is her work and I don't get any money for it? What do you mean?

Sign up. I mean, did she just like say, or was it like, did you guys like, how do you put that together? Because it's interesting that. would write it. Is it just about... It's talk. It's talk. It's talk. It's talk. About dark shit.

You know, and it works out well. Yeah. Like, you'll love it when you hear the midget story. You got a good one in it? And it's in the show? Oh, yeah. Save some of the... You know what?

I'll come out to one. You got to check this out, man. I'll come out. I'll even come on stage and just listen to it. I'll put on something little for you. Not for you. I'll just wear it. How many about little?

How do it works. I put on a small... I said thong. You'll wear a thong? No, no, bro. I'm just saying a small shirt. But you had that one-man show that's going to be, and that's going to be a tour.

We'll see. Okay. Let me see how much they're paying me for. It will see. And you have your documentary that's coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do. You do. If...

Your guys know every fucking thing about you. I know. What the fuck? I don't know. We learned a lot tonight, too. Dude. If Cuss D'Amato could see you now and see your whole life, right? If he could see your whole life, you know, and just get to spend some time with you today. Do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to, like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say?

What do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by? I would say Cuss. Anybody in the world says, I'm the best ever. What do you think? What do we think, guys? But know what he would say? You know what Cuth would say? What would he say, Mike? You didn't move your head of nothing.

That guy was a little faster he would have to hit you. And that guy was a little faster he would have hit you. Knock a guy out of eight seconds. He was a little faster he didn't hit you. Had your head up. Man, thank you so much for sharing your time with us today. for bringing your family here today just for the opportunity

that we get to see you. They all love you. I don't know who the fuck you are. Yeah. My family, that was in love you. My kids love you. You know, fuck? You know the truth, dude?

I don't know who the fuck I am either, bro. I wish I did too. But, hey, but I love you, man. Thank you so kindly, brother. And that's the truth. And thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.