This Past Weekend - #669 - Riley Green

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Starting point is 00:00:54 I had a time with today's guest. I'm glad that he brought the humor, Mr. Riley Green. It's nice when I get home, too, to get on a bulldozer or something and go clear. Man, that's the most relaxing thing in the world. Is it? Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road. Oh, yeah. And you don't realize how far you've been until you get off of it to walk back to your car, you know?

Starting point is 00:01:31 But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields. God. Just, yeah, except the animals are like, here comes out. Look, we love his music, but this guy's. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm making, like, a field. I'm going to plant some food for, man, you know. Okay, so that, yeah, so some of it's just reason.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Doning for them. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, all it is just, yeah. It's like, look, guys, we're kind of re- I'm not going to put a parking lotter at Kmart there. It's going to be like, you know, he's a field. Yeah, I'll leave him some shade trees. It's fine.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Sorry, man, yeah. I'm acting like, you're the bad guy. I was like, but you made me the developer on Fern Gully. It's like burning the woods down. Like, I'm not doing, I'm making it nicer. Like, I dug a lake, like, threw him somewhere for him to swim. Oh, really? Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:02:12 Oh, God. That'd be beautiful. You made me the man. Yeah, dude. I'm freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy. You made me like the bad guy on the, what's the movie with the blue people? Avatar.

Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, you made me that guy. It's like just destroying the forest. I'm like making it nicer for the animals. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're down there repurp. Yeah, man. God, I got to get in prayer. I got to get in the word.

Starting point is 00:02:33 I mean, what you got to do is get on a bulldozer. Yeah, you got to come down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that. Do you? Well, what do you do? What is your thing that you say? say is your biggest disconnect from all this? What do you do?

Starting point is 00:02:52 I don't honestly. See, that's a problem. Right. I don't have an immediate answer. I would probably say, I would say, probably working out and going for a walk, probably. Okay, well, that's definitely one of them,

Starting point is 00:03:05 but like you're still thinking about it. You're still in it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, if I go for a walk with a good friend, that's more like just kind of like contemplating, discuss and stuff. But I agree. having some, having like, it's time for me to kind of like, find some other outlets and stuff, you know? And I just got off a tour and so that's like, this is one of the first times

Starting point is 00:03:23 where it's like, well, who am I? You know, what do I do with myself? Oh, both of them. Who am I and what do I do with myself? Like, you know, not in a whiny way, but it just like kind of hit me like that. And it's like, okay, so it's time for me to like kind of embrace some of those. But just so people know, I think we started in, you said you have like, you guys got a couple thousand acres down there in Alabama?

Starting point is 00:03:42 I bought, I've got. It's 1,180 right now that all touches. But I bought it in like little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up, see if anybody wants to sell anything. But my gunned aty Buford's brother, my uncle Bill, had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres, and I bought that first.

Starting point is 00:03:59 And then just since then I've grown it. And it's just a never-ending project. I mean, you go out there, I'll go home. And it kind of keeps me sane on the road, too, because I'll be thinking about, man, when I get home, I'm going to take the D3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around that. out of the property so I can go in here and I'm going to dig a lake over here.

Starting point is 00:04:17 So you're just constantly creative because there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more valuable. Right. So. And you have a crew that does that with the? My dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter and he's 70 now. So, I mean, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down.

Starting point is 00:04:35 So I let them work around on the farm and just, you know, run tractors and they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used to do construction work with that helped me out out there. So there's always something going on. but when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you're not having your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know. Oh, yeah. And then going out there and you get caught up in what you're doing, and I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do.

Starting point is 00:05:03 Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and big moments and highs out of it, but as far as like, what we do never has an end. You never finished with what we're doing. Like there's a little thing she said, okay, well, check or go to the next thing. But, like, being on tour is, you know, my tour doesn't end. We just tour until holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around February, you know. So it's nice to have something that you can finish. Amen.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, yeah, having that justify, like, just like, looking back, seeing something, the day is done. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah, I used to work on a soybean farm over there near like Vidalia, Louise. right over on the Louisiana, Mississippi border up there. And those are some of the best days, man. It was tough work, but you, like, I still go back in a frame a little bit with my buddy,

Starting point is 00:05:53 just to remind myself what it was like. Yeah, dude, I just love it. Whether they had me painting or just, like, moving seed or just, like, cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man. There was just something like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it. And you could also, like, I could be hungover or whatever it was and be having a bad day, and I could get through a day at work doing that. but this you have to be happy every day.

Starting point is 00:06:15 You've got to at least act like you are. Oh, yeah, you got to show up. I can't get on stage and, you know, be up. So I got to be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me and they want to see that. So it's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that. Well, look, welcome this podcast, dude, because I've spent probably a third of my life whining on this bitch about. I'll whine with you. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:34 What are you going to complain about? Yeah, dude. I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast is you don't have no coffee maker here. Oh, yeah. We don't have a coffee. I'm sending you one. I want it right here. You were in my kitchen, yeah, you saw I don't have one.

Starting point is 00:06:46 I looked through every closet in your house. There's not one here. I look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet, dude. I'm out. You're out. I like women. But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Dude, if I'm in the closet so long that I'm making coffee in there. It's in a while, yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd be, yeah. But sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever. And I'd just say outfit. Let's keep it moving. Outfit, yeah. Shirt.

Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. Picking out a shirt. It really is a shirt. What made you pick that one today? I tried on another one I took it downstairs It was just It was a little

Starting point is 00:07:16 It felt a little more formal And then I was like That feels right I feel like that I see I took it Like you wore that Because I was coming Well I appreciate it

Starting point is 00:07:24 I feel It just felt right man Dude you remember I saw you Good to see you man Yeah See you man We're doing this interview

Starting point is 00:07:30 Backwards Thanks for coming Yeah dude This is how it goes in here By the way I'm Riley Green Yeah Ladies and gentlemen

Starting point is 00:07:36 Riley Green This past weekend Thanks for coming bro I appreciate it Um, dude, I saw you,

Starting point is 00:07:42 I saw you, and this is good, man, and, uh, I saw you, remember I went to your surprise party. You remember that?

Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, but I, I don't think you were invited. Technically, yeah, I think you came in and got a piece of cake and left, honestly, is what happened.

Starting point is 00:07:58 Okay, that could be true. But I remember, though, like you weren't into, you, I don't think a surprise party. I hated it.

Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah. I don't like surprises. Yeah. I always, because I walked in, I don't know, I don't know, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:11 sometimes they're over there at losers. They'll be like, yeah, you know, it's a surprise party. You know, we got to go. Don't say sometimes, like, it happens a lot. That was one time that happened. That's a good point. Sometimes Riley's having a surprise party. No, and it'll never happen again.

Starting point is 00:08:23 But sometimes you'll be there and they'll be like, this is going on there. So we got all. So people will make like the, um, the mech or whatever the, the, you know, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door. Yeah, but you have to go in the back door. You got to sneak up the back way. I'll come to the back.

Starting point is 00:08:38 But you were heading in. So they're like, yeah, it's a surprise. party don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing. I'm not saying nothing. I'm not even known that good. You know, and then we all walked in and people yelled at surprise. People thought you did. You were at my surprise party.

Starting point is 00:08:49 It was true. I thought you planned the whole thing. People thought I was in it, man. I said, I picked out the cake, you know. Yeah, it was great. I mean, you ate some of it. I took two pieces of it. I took two pieces of out.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Sounds right. Okay, this is no joke. You literally got invited to my podcast, my surprise party last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake and leave. Yeah. That's what happened. Amen, brother. Yeah, that's cool.

Starting point is 00:09:14 When we got in there, I was like, well, shit, if he don't even want to be at a surprise party, then I'm going to get my, I'm going to head on. I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something. Like, for me, I don't get to see my family and friends that often. I'm traveling all the time. So if you gathered everybody, just tell me, and we'll go over there and it's enough that they're there. Yeah. You know, I give my manager a hard time because I won an ACM award in 2020. and they call me and they're like, hey, you need to do a Zoom with the label.

Starting point is 00:09:43 And so I don't have the computer, so I go over to their place and they got it all set up. And there's my president of my label and the vice president and everybody. And I'm like, I what we're talking about? And then Keith Evern comes on. I was like, hey, he's like, hey, he's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th or whatever? You want to come to the ASEM Wars? I was like, yeah. And why's he asking you?

Starting point is 00:10:02 Because he was the host, I guess. But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like, surprise. And there was all these articles about how Raleigh Green won an A-CM award and couldn't care less because I just was confused. Yeah. So just get, you know, don't, I can act a prize. Right. But yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Tell me about it. Yeah, tell me a little earlier. If you tell me 10 minutes earlier, I'll just be like, yeah. I'll be like, oh. Yeah. That was good. I believe that. You did?

Starting point is 00:10:26 How you looked when I got here. That was, that wasn't too bad. That's how you looked when I walked in. Oh. Oh, thank you. Oh, you're coming. What about me and you trying to schedule this was really stressful for everybody involved. You know what?

Starting point is 00:10:36 Everybody in my team's like, so. or you do it. I was like, hell, I don't know. I think we just said we should do this. Well, we were supposed to do. Here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're going to do it. Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to LA because you're working on the voice now. So that started to happen. And then there was supposed to, we were supposed to to have Connor McGregor was supposed to be on. And there was this looming moment where it was like, like, you had to pick. No, pick me. Okay. I didn't. His schedule was super tight. You know, you can lie to me for the sake of the. Oh, I'd lie to you. But I'd just

Starting point is 00:11:05 soon tell you the truth. It's just right now it's easier. Okay. But there's just like a lot of little moving parts. If he comes while I'm here, are you going to make me leave and come back another time? Yep.

Starting point is 00:11:15 Maybe he'll bring coffee. Honestly, if he comes and realize you don't have coffee, he might leave. Bro, I didn't know you said this much stuff. I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy, man. That's my bad read on you, you know? I usually talk a lot when I got coffee. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:11:29 I probably start fading here soon. What, uh, so you want me to do the interview? What, uh, no? I got things. Okay. I didn't know if you, like, studied up or whatever. Oh, yeah, man. I studied it up, dude.

Starting point is 00:11:41 I got a good plan. Okay. Yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me, you know? It's mild, but it is what it is, you know? Listen, if you start to run out of stuff, just give me the, and I'll, you know what I'm, you know what I'm? Yeah, dude. Yeah, if I need some help, I'm definitely, God, it'd be nice. I get a little help from Riley Green.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Everything's good? Everything's pretty good, man. What was that doing this morning? I was texting with John Pardy this morning. I like that, dude. He's going out on tour. He's an interesting guy. I've been a big fan of him for a long time

Starting point is 00:12:07 unique voice, like as everything, just kind of like an interesting guy. I've always used him as an example when I signed a record deal and started having songs on the radio, I think the toughest thing to do is to be commercial enough that radio will play it

Starting point is 00:12:21 and then also still unique and cool enough that it's a good song and not just cheesy. He's always done a good job of that. He's had a lot of big songs. Agreed, man. Yeah, he's an authentic dude, man. I know you put pictures up people

Starting point is 00:12:33 when we're talking about him. He's an interesting. I've got a picture of me opening for them in Mobile, Alabama at the Soul Kitchen from like 2006. Is that where you started out there? I know you started in Alabama, but at the Soul Kitchen, is that like a popular spot? I'm not familiar with it. It's on Dolphin Street. I mean, yeah, it was like one of the clubs you'd come up playing, you know.

Starting point is 00:12:52 Got it. It was a big deal for me to play it. I opened for Chris Kagle there, Corey Smith there, John Party, several people. And then eventually I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the singer and then went down and played at the Florida. Alabama. That singer is nice over there. It is cool, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:06 You play that Florabama during spring break times? I played Florida for ever. $150 a show played for four hours. He'd get one free drink per break. And he played 45 minutes at a time. Nice. I remember John McGinnis that owns the Florida. Alabama is a good buddy of mine,

Starting point is 00:13:24 and he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like Alabama spring break one week, LSU one week, you know. The LSU folks love it up there. Oh, they love it anywhere, dude. It's true. anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it. It's fermented down there.

Starting point is 00:13:40 They love it. I had to set my own tent up on the beach, and it was like I'd be in the shade for about an hour, and then I'd have to move it, you know? Nobody down there listened to me, and I played every day from 12 to 4. Wait, you'd play under a tent on the beach. Like a tent you camp with, like a, you know, a tailgating tent.

Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah. And I had to set my own speakers up and everything. I played from 12 to 4 every day, and then I would go back to the riverhouse across the road where they would keep the bands. Band would come in and play that night, and I would go party with them, and I did that every day for three weeks,

Starting point is 00:14:08 and it about killed me. Damn, it took 10 years off my life. Playing that early shift. Yeah, and then staying up all night, too. I would, like, mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play it noon the next day. Oh, I'd be partying down there, dude. Oh, I remember partying down there.

Starting point is 00:14:21 We buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if you... Still there? I haven't heard of him. Kind of weekend at Bernie's situation. I mean, look, dude, I'll say this. He wasn't that great of a guy anyway, to be honest, which, and I'll know that,

Starting point is 00:14:32 and I'll tell his daddy that. but yeah we've had some I mean who didn't have some time it's some pretty epic stories down there broke a guy's arm one time arm wrestling and floorbound for what just for fun or for money no I mean I didn't do it on purpose

Starting point is 00:14:46 and I wasn't for money I was playing a show and I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like man you're pretty big old boy let's arm wrestling that's for whatever reason that's what we grew up doing

Starting point is 00:14:56 yeah my dad and his brother and all them and I beat two or three guys and they were like man we're gonna get somebody and they brought this dude over He was probably 40, you know, and he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it and his arm just snapped. Oh. Yeah. Was that a popular video that went around?

Starting point is 00:15:13 I'm trying to think I remember singing that. You can, like, we can show you right now, right? Let me see. Oh, there you go. You got to listen to it, though. Oh, come on. You got out of the sound up. Oh, my God, bro.

Starting point is 00:15:28 Stop, dude. That's enough, man. Sorry. How do you find that so fast? Huh? I don't know, bro. We got it. It's on the internet.

Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. I love that movie over the top. You know? Yeah. He turned his hat around and he was serious about it. Oh, that was a movie. I forgot about that film, man.

Starting point is 00:15:42 That was a good one. You mentioned John Pardy. What about Ray Clay Strays? Did you come up around them? They were always out in the belt. I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama. But it's always a good sign when you hear somebody's name or a band,

Starting point is 00:15:58 and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized, you know, on radio and award shows and all that. And now it's awesome because they've made it there. Yeah. And winning awards and, man, what a cool thing. The town that you grew up in, what was the, how big was it, Jacksonville, I know it? I don't know how many people. I mean, there was a college there when the colleges then.

Starting point is 00:16:22 I think it was around 8,000 when I was going to school. What college was it? Jacksonville State. Yeah. But it was a really small town, I believe, when school wasn't in. And I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley and Williams community. in this one flashing light, one store called Green Store. El Green, run the store.

Starting point is 00:16:42 He's 94 years old. Still there? Doesn't charge tax. Yeah, he just guesses what everything costs. Oh, I love that. Bring a snickers up there. He'd be like, it's $2. It'd be $2.50, you know.

Starting point is 00:16:50 But all my grand days and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning. Before work, we'd stop in there. That's a cool vibe. Hadn't changed much either. Look at there. There's a EO. right there. You got a picture of him. So was he related to you?

Starting point is 00:17:02 Probably. Look at this, dude. Probably. That guy's a legend. No way. That's him? I saw him yesterday. Dang, I want to go see him.

Starting point is 00:17:10 Come on. My dad said they bought their basketball shoes there. They played in Converse All-Stars. He sells Converse All-Stars. Those shoes are horrible to play in. Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle. And you slide. You just slide everywhere.

Starting point is 00:17:24 I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of, maybe some type of turpentines. I'll tell you what old Benny the Jet Rodriguez using things, though. You know who that is? Uh-uh. Remember on Sandlot, the guy that jumped the fence? Oh, yeah. He put those.

Starting point is 00:17:37 Those black ones, there he is. What do he put on? Man, this, hey, your man is quick. He's crushing today. This is easy to do an interview like this. Oh, he's doing it. You just say anything. Oh, yeah, look at those.

Starting point is 00:17:46 What were those, what were those, something, flyers or something? PF Flyers. PF Flyers, bro. PF Flyers were a real shoe. No doubt. We had those ones that would, remember when those shoes came out that would blank or whatever? You're talking about light up shoes? Yeah, and everybody would just call you like a queer all the time.

Starting point is 00:18:02 Did they say that? What? Yeah. Why would they say that? I don't know. Because your shoes were dang blinking. I get it a little bit. Or people are like, your feet are gay or whatever.

Starting point is 00:18:12 Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. My parents wouldn't buy me those. Were your parents, what were they like growing up? They were pretty strict over there? What was it? What was it like? I mean, it sounds like just a good small-town environment.

Starting point is 00:18:23 It sounds like a real kind of American southern environment. Yeah, there's a lot about where I grew up that kind of looks like a movie, like going back in time. I'll bring people down there and they'll be like, man, it's really like this, you know. My dad built houses. my mom was school teacher. I never got away with anything. Mom caught me anything I ever did. Pops built houses for living,

Starting point is 00:18:43 and I used to go out and work with him when I wasn't playing ball, so I tried to play any sport I could to keep from having to work. I was really lucky. All four of my grandparents lived in the same town, so I saw my grandparents every day, so I was really close with all them.

Starting point is 00:18:56 That's awesome, man. Yeah. And do you think that's what led you to writing Grandpa's Never Die? That's just a lot of, like, that's a lot of influence of why Grandpa's Never Die. My Grandadie Buford loved country music. He'd sit around with the old epiphone guitar when I was a kid, and we'd sit around and kind of play.

Starting point is 00:19:12 And we ended up turning his parents' house, my great-grandparents, into a music hall. And on Friday night, until these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes. And I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learned how to play like that. But, yeah, that's my Grandad Buford. And my Grandaday Linden was a big fisherman, golfer,

Starting point is 00:19:28 so I'd hang out with them every day. And I wrote the song about them as a tribute. And then, of course, it became a big hit for me. and I ended up putting both of them as co-writers on the song. Dude, that's awesome. I got a songwriter credit for it. Bro, they must have felt, I mean, they must be so proud, huh? Yeah, my Grundy Buford died in 2010,

Starting point is 00:19:48 so he didn't really get to see me, you know, like I have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music, but my grandaday Linden got to come see me at the Opry, my grandmother Nancy did. My grandmother, her little Jean, still alive, so she's probably cutting grass right now. She loves it.

Starting point is 00:20:01 That's awesome. Yeah, man, I definitely miss it. I definitely miss things about like that at home, man. Dude, what if Grand Pals never did die? You ever think about that? Like, because there would be some side effects of it. There would obviously... Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects, too.

Starting point is 00:20:19 There's a... If every road was named Copperhead, it'd be really hard to get anywhere. Right. Really confusing, you know? Yeah, that's a good point. Coolers never ran out of beer. People would... Yeah, and then they'd be out on the road.

Starting point is 00:20:30 High school home teams never lost. Everybody'd be 500 at the end of the season, you know? Yeah. So there are problems. Like, if you want to just pick apart... the songs that I write we can. No, I'm not picking it off, man. I wish Grandpa's ever died.

Starting point is 00:20:42 First of all, it's one of my favorite songs. Thank you. Second of all. But no, I do think, like, yeah, if they never died. First of all, what would never, inheritance would never start. That'd pissing people off. Yeah, but only people with rich grandpas. Right.

Starting point is 00:20:55 Because, I mean, I, you know. But even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had $50, you knew you was getting a little waterfall. Yeah, but grandpa's always give you a little walking around money. A lot of them, you know what I mean. But that other pocket. My old grandpa had only reached into one of his pocket I knew in that other pocket he had.

Starting point is 00:21:08 That's where it was. Yeah, my granddad always had a $2 bill that had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it. So it was not real. But he'd give me that a lot. But he'd give you that? That's a good idea

Starting point is 00:21:19 of giving fake money to children. Yeah. Well, you know, it keeps him out of trouble. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, what if Grandpa was... I'm trying to think of just some other interesting facts.

Starting point is 00:21:28 If Grandpas never died. Just like if they never died. So a positive, I think, would be the things that I do miss about that generation was like they were hard workers. Yeah. You know, I always say I was kind of the last generation to work with my dad. Like, my buddies didn't. But like, you know, now, I mean, I don't know that people get out of high school and college

Starting point is 00:21:53 and really have to bust it anywhere. You know, there's a certain amount of like work ethic that's lost a little bit. Well, yeah, I think, and also a lot of the trades. I mean, one thing, like we've had Mike Rowan here a few times, and he talks a lot about how there's not enough viable tradesmen right now. Like there's jobs. There's just not people

Starting point is 00:22:11 that can fill them that have the skill sets, you know? We could be working and we're just talking. Yeah. And also, I thought Mike Rowe lived in my house for most of my childhood.

Starting point is 00:22:19 My dad watched dirty jobs and deadliest catch every day. Oh, dude. He's in there. Yeah, listen to his voice. It just, it makes you feel like you got to fill out a job application.

Starting point is 00:22:29 Every time I hear Mike Rowe's voice, I'll fill one out online. Yeah. You know, or I'll buy a damn, just buy a, like a quick creed or something. Just in case.

Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, I just feel like something could happen. See, that's what I'm talking about, though. You go down to Alabama and you get up and you're like, man, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to, I'm going to build a little pen and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy, you make a list and you make it happen. And then you go and you dig the holes. And like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:57 Oh, dude, I think there's like, I do think with society sometimes we took a very errant path out into like existing. you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a greed, you know, there's a greed has a lot to do with that. I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up, you know, so, but I think, I think we will look back at some point, or generations in the future will look back and be like, man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really means something, you know. Well, yeah, I mean, it's social media that's caused it, the amount of comparison you have to somebody else.

Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah. Also, let's talk about how mean you were talking like a couple of grandpas now about the younger generation. Like, man, these kids now, they don't, they don't know, man. They don't know what it was like, you know. When I was growing up, I had a phone. It didn't do anything. You could call. If you wanted to send a K, you had to press six, seven times, you know, like it was tough. And I have social media or anything. Now all they've known is, and I remember people I thought were rich growing up. Oh, yeah. But now everybody seems rich. It was like a handful of people that had bunny in my town. I was like, man, those are big time, you know. Oh, dude, if somebody had a

Starting point is 00:24:03 Garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy, and he... It's always Jeremy. He got a garage. And we were like, look at this mother, you know, we couldn't believe it. But then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth. Oh, it had an automatic door? Yeah. Oh, that's wild.

Starting point is 00:24:22 He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man. Dude, what was I reading the other day? The first 911 call was in Alabama. Did you know that? Domestic dispute? it could have been domestic. I think it was two people fighting over a baked bean recipe, probably.

Starting point is 00:24:37 I mean, I don't know what. They didn't get it. You know what? They're sealed down there, brother. Try to get a recipe in Alabama. I dare you. They wouldn't, the government wouldn't unseal it. That's hilarious.

Starting point is 00:24:47 Not on our watch. Haleyville, Alabama, 1968. There you go. We started it. We launched the standard across the United States. I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we've got to figure out a way to get help.

Starting point is 00:25:03 help over here quicker. Or it could have been, dude, it could have been just look. Somebody's like, you know, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in like a, in the worst way. Nice. You know? I mean, there's just, hey, yes, officer, there is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister.

Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah, I mean, I just don't know what that. I mean, that 911 call could have been anything, you know. Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? You're sitting over there just crushing the heater. Yeah. In Walmart parking lot, you see somebody hugging. you know their brother and sister, you go, that's a little too long. Yeah, yeah, honey, give me the phone.

Starting point is 00:25:39 I'm going to call this in. Yeah, yeah. It'd be out of town or they'd call it in, I'll tell you that. Yeah, it would be. And it wouldn't be somebody from Louisiana. I'll go ahead and tell you that, too. Louisiana, Mississippi's not making that call. They were like, hey, these people are stealing our style.

Starting point is 00:25:52 That's what they would say, bro. They're stealing our lives. Just smoking a cigarette holding a baby. Yeah. Oh, God. Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Miss Robin, and she was like our teacher. She was like our...

Starting point is 00:26:04 She sounds like a teacher, Miss Robin. Oh, yeah, good call. And she was... Damn, probably... Cooking me today, man. And she would... Well, the other kids would do nap time, right? But I didn't really believe in nap time.

Starting point is 00:26:19 I just wanted to get busy and get out of it. Yeah, I got that. I was ready to get to work. I was probably like that, yeah. Even as a kid, I was like, what are we fucking doing? We're barely... Nobody's doing shit. We got to take a break from that.

Starting point is 00:26:27 You get old and realize nap time was for them, not for you. Oh. You know what I mean? That was their break. Dang. Lay down for a little while. Yeah. You need a nap.

Starting point is 00:26:37 You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm going to hit this heater. And that's what she would do though. Miss Robin, though. She knew I didn't sleep. And we had similar hair. And so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot.

Starting point is 00:26:47 And that man, I could go outside. And she would, and she'd light up a cigarette. And I would just lean on her car tire and she would just tell me about her. Smoke and look at you. Yeah. Yeah. She would just tell me stuff about her husband or something, Roger. and he wasn't doing shit.

Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. And she would just... Most Rogers aren't. Yeah. Yeah. I call it. Hey, listen to this. This is all...

Starting point is 00:27:11 I don't know why I got the last today, but I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in. You know, thanks for having me. And, uh, yeah. We'll get some coffee coming shortly. The, uh, you know what bothers me? When...

Starting point is 00:27:22 What bothers you, Riley? Because I bet it's a lot. Well, one thing that really bothers me a lot. How do you look at a baby and name it Roger? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, my granddaddy's name was.

Starting point is 00:27:32 was Buford, how did you look at a baby and say, that's Buford? That Buford right there. You know what I mean? But in the South. And then like, think about your playing with the kid when he was like 10 and you're another kid. You're like, Buford, get over here. Like, that's wild.

Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. We had a fellow named Fremont by us. And people thought he was rich or whatever or gay just because his name was like real high in. Rich or gay? People thought. One of the two. Did his shoes light up?

Starting point is 00:27:58 They did not. Did they roll? Oh, those wheelies? Those are the best. I mean, he saw a kid doing that. That was a little after my generation. I feel like, I don't know if we had those. I would see kids have those.

Starting point is 00:28:10 They had the Reebok pumps. Remember those? People would pump those shoes. I like the Reebok. I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in like, would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass with the version that did? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:28:24 Wait to say it one more time. So like the version of me that wears wheelie shoes would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That's why I make. decisions in life. And then you go with what you're like, that's not for me.

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Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah, those guys are great. that's nice man oh it's nice man i mean look it's been i mean one of my goals this year is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on like in the universe since i'm not torn i have a little bit more time to absorb some things and and just to want to do that you know it's like how far pluto is from neptuners or just like more social things like i think no just consume more like different types of artists work right different films just absorb more stuff so it's like i have more things to like think about and talk Well, I can comprehend that. You're probably like me in that I don't listen to as much new music

Starting point is 00:32:05 as I used to before I got in this world, not necessarily because I'm burned out on it, and not really because I'm like, I don't want to get, you know, drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know. I just, I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did. But, I mean, like, you don't probably watch a lot of stand-up or, I mean, and it's weird that you get removed from it when you're in it. You know, I feel like, I felt that way with me. That's a good point. Yeah, you think you're in it.

Starting point is 00:32:33 So there'd be, you'd be in more of it. You just got so much of your own stuff, you've got to be concerned with it. I don't, yeah. There's a lot that goes into, especially once you get to touring. And, like, with podcast, and, like, I'll sit and watch through every single episode. Like, I was up last night until probably, you know, 11. Watching yours. Putting notes on an episode.

Starting point is 00:32:51 Like, giving notes and, like, you know, stuff. And, like, because sometimes will say stuff where it's like, we can't leave that in. You know, we just can't. Like, sometimes we'll say stuff that slander that's like, you know, it's like, you know, It's like you got to check through or send it to an attorney. Like there's just different things you got to do now. And so, yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot that goes into that. Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer?

Starting point is 00:33:13 No. No, I mean, I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID to do like Zooms and stuff. And I remember my managers had me set up on this Zoom interview with a radio station. They didn't, they were asked me to go to like speed.com or something and see what my bandwidth was. And I didn't have internet at my house. And they couldn't believe that. Damn.

Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. When I go home, it's a, it's a disconnect from it, you know? Yeah. Except where I do, like, photo shoots or interviews or something down there. You know, it's nice. I started steering people that way because every time I did a shoot, we'd, like, rent an old truck, we'd go out to some farm somewhere and stand in front of a bunch of cows. I'm like, man, I got all that in Alabama.

Starting point is 00:33:50 Let's just do it down there. Yeah. Do you have, do you run in a lot of, like, ex-girlfriends and stuff around home? What's that, what's that energy like? Because I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point down there. The point I've had a girlfriend, yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. Because you seem like a guy that's, yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:05 That would have a girlfriend at some point in his life. Yes. Yeah. You're right about that. Thank you. And we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups. That was for the people watching? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:18 Okay, okay. Dude, and yeah, so you just said something that's kind of interesting. Just Tony's cup. Oh, Tony. Hell, yeah. Hope he's good. He got Vivian's cup. Well, Tony used to drink.

Starting point is 00:34:28 He'd to heat past. He had HIV. Damn. But we washed it. Not a lot. He didn't have the big case. He had something light. But a lethal case all the same.

Starting point is 00:34:38 He caught it in the spring. Yeah. You know, see, you don't get the head. You catch that winter here, baby, it'll climb up your legs.

Starting point is 00:34:46 Starts of the toe. Yeah, start. And then it comes looking for you, dude. That's how to get that. A little horrible thing to talk about. It is. We're joking,

Starting point is 00:34:54 obviously. No, no, yeah, I know. If people haven't figured that out by now. They thought we were being serious when you explained the coffee thing. That's like, that seems like something a serious

Starting point is 00:35:02 podcaster would do. Well, you have to remember that some people can't see it. Some people just listen. Half of our audience is just listeners. Oh, you're going to want to watch this one. So, yeah, half our audience is just listeners. So it's like you've got to kind of explain stuff sometimes. It was like, we just do a cut and we swap chairs. I'm like, hey, we're right back, we had to swap chairs.

Starting point is 00:35:20 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. You got to move this plant. You can a different plant in here? Dude, one time I got so high in... Taking pot? In California? Yes. I was absorbed. I was doing, yeah, I was smoking weed. And I called down to the, I got back to my room, and it had been a long day. I called down to the front, and I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone. And they're like, excuse me? And I said, somebody, there's a bunch

Starting point is 00:35:48 of big plants in there. Said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone. And they came up, and it was just the regular plants that had been. I've been in this room for a week, and I just had never really noticed them, I guess. Okay, that's, that's really fun for me, because I had a thing, when I first got a tour bus I'd been touring for several years but I was driving the shows or whatever so there was such a big like that was a huge moment

Starting point is 00:36:07 Oh, that's a relief And I took a buddy of mine out on the road With me to kind of help me You know, whatever he was doing, assistant, whatever you want to call it And I had this thing where When I was drinking, I would take all the plants

Starting point is 00:36:17 From the lobby of a hotel And put them in my room And when I say we got a bus I was just, I was partying back then You know, I got after it So as I say Yeah And I don't know where that came from

Starting point is 00:36:26 I never wanted to steal anything And I would always like take it back but my room would just look like a jungle. Any potted plan I could get furniture from down there. They'd wheel them in. How would you guys get them in there? I'd just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you see on cartoons where they walk behind the thing,

Starting point is 00:36:44 like it was covering them, you know? Yeah. It was a real silly thing. I remember being in Mobile, we played Mardi Gras down there, which is where Mardi Gras originated, by the way. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:55 And somebody asked for, somebody probably called 911 because shit was getting weird down there. It does do that. Get here with a moon pie down there. Yeah. Oh, moon pie started down there, didn't they? Where did the moon pie started? Here we go. Where'd they start?

Starting point is 00:37:08 Before you move on, we're going to hold that thought. Tennessee. Let's go. Chattanooga. Wow. The windy city. The moon pie originated in 1917 at the Chattanooga

Starting point is 00:37:18 bakery in Tennessee. You know Mountain Dew started in Tennessee. You know Appalachian coal miners wanted to snack in their lunch pails and that was how it started. God, I'd love that. Mm-hmm. Wouldn't you love that?

Starting point is 00:37:30 You've been in a mine all day. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. Did they really? I just knew that. I didn't read that. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. That's why it's called a moon pie. Who wrote this?

Starting point is 00:37:45 This is... You know there's made up stuff on the internet? Did you know that? I figured that out the last couple of years. People can just say whatever they want, put on the internet. Yeah, we never figured that out. We'll just look it up and say it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:56 We don't really test anything out here. Well, you can just say, whatever, you can like... Oh, nowadays, you can say whatever you. What I've found is all you have to say before you say whatever you want is get ready with me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:06 If you say, get ready with me, you can say whatever you want after that, then that's to be true. I found that out. Did you see that? There's videos. They'll say, get ready with me and they just make up stuff. Well, it's gotten bad too.

Starting point is 00:38:16 It's like, get ready with me for my nephew's funeral or whatever. And I'm like, what? Why is that, dude? You know, it's like, or they're like, oh, get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever. And sometimes it's just like,

Starting point is 00:38:27 this shit is not helpful to people. That's, hey, well, hold on a second. No, you're right. But there is a, there's a world where I get ready with me, like if you did it to go do something. Yeah. That'd be interesting. I mean, I'd be putting makeup on.

Starting point is 00:38:41 Like, the actual get ready part's going to be pretty slow. Right. You're putting your clothes on. Right. But explaining where you're going. Yeah, same where I'm going. Get ready with me, guys. Do they do like to go fishing?

Starting point is 00:38:53 That'd be good. Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what lures you're going to take and stuff. Oh, yeah. Talk about my rigs. To a good old boy, get ready with me. That's not a... I like that.

Starting point is 00:39:02 That's not a bad idea. It's not a great idea. It's not a great idea. It's not going to... We're not going to get an endorsement deal with that. I don't know. Yeah. Who would watch it, though?

Starting point is 00:39:09 Swim bait. You'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. And I'll get their friends, you know? That's right. And that's fine. I think that's okay with me, dude. You know, I just thought of it.

Starting point is 00:39:21 You kind of remind me of Brink. Who is it? You know the movie Brink? Uh-uh. Bring it up. maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy. Oh. You see what I mean?

Starting point is 00:39:34 Those two guys together, that's kind of... That's a man on the right? Yeah, and he's the bad guy. Man, look, immediate, like, hate when I look at him for me. Oh, because you saw this movie. Yeah, but I think there was a little redemption at the end. I think he helped somebody up after you push him down or something. Brink.

Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah. Yeah, and I'm sorry. I can't believe you've seen that. I don't know this actor. And sorry, dude. I did it. This guy does look also a little bit feminine. in this section, in this image, because he's wearing a neck.

Starting point is 00:40:03 I think the necklace has a woman. It's the lips. He's got, yeah, never mind. It's a great point. The guy definitely looks out of feminine in this. Yeah, you don't have to tiptoe around that. Yeah, I don't have to apologize. Dude, yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:14 He's going to be way more offended if he wears a lot of shoes than what you just said about in looking finner. I promise. That dude will do a get ready with me. I feel like, and this character would do a get ready with me. That's fair to say. 100%. Okay, okay, good.

Starting point is 00:40:26 That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude, that's got to be walking. I mean, like, I can't figure out what we've been talking about. That's okay. This is what this whole. Okay, that's what this is. Yeah, I've been doing that for 10 years. Cool.

Starting point is 00:40:35 It seems like we start somewhere. We'll get somewhere. But it's rubbing off on me. I did the brink thing, and I don't know what we're talking about before that. That's okay, dude. I'll tell you this. You've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, staying in control, confidence, and a lot of good humor.

Starting point is 00:40:53 I didn't even expect it. I was working on posture. I was hoping that was going to come. That's not really there. Dude, you want some good posture. I'll tell you where to go. You're a funny guy. I'm all right.

Starting point is 00:41:00 Today I'm okay today. It's contagious, man. Being around funny people. Do you feel like, like, totally honestly, do you feel like, like if I showed up at a music place, I would feel like, you know, I would sit there wishing I could do music. If you show up to a place where there is a comedy, do you feel like you have to be a funny guy? No. No. But I think everybody wants to be funny.

Starting point is 00:41:24 Do you? That's a good question. I think so. I mean, right? Huh. I feel like funny is probably the quickest way for somebody like you. That's fair. Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous,

Starting point is 00:41:37 he's somebody that's famous, you're thinking, I, he's probably a jerk. You know, he's probably. That is people's first thought. But then if you're a little self-deprecated and you kind of cut up, they go, oh, man, it doesn't take yourself too seriously. That's, I feel like those are people I like. Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, probably especially, if you're also a handsomer guy and a popular guy,

Starting point is 00:41:55 people are probably getting to be a harder time about it. You need to be real funny. is what you need to do. Yeah. You know. Yeah, you got to be real funny. Worried of the wise. Did you, uh...

Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah, what was the best... What was the best bar fights time? Did you tell me that? I don't know if I asked you that. No, we went into a completely different rant after that. It's always girls. Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights, I feel like. Hmm.

Starting point is 00:42:20 You know? And I'm always surprised, too, with the song they get in a fight during. One of your songs? Well, there's been a couple of videos I've seen. to people like getting in a fight during, I wish grandpa's never died. Oh.

Starting point is 00:42:32 Or I got a song called Jesus saves. Yeah. You know? And like that's a, like how do you emotionally go to blows? Right. Like Jesus saves, but he better not save that bitch, you know?

Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah. And somebody just comes across and just, and the craziest part, people, something that are fighting, like already will be in like a cast or something in an arm cast or something. That's a kind of shit I don't get.

Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah. But they just got to, out of a fight to come. Yes. Like they just got out of a fight. And now they're... Well, you know, I will venture to say this. I bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts probably do it often, habitual.

Starting point is 00:43:11 You know what I mean? Those are the ones. It's probably not a lot of people. It's handful of them that are just... They keep doing it. I had buddies growing up that liked fighting. Yeah. You know, they're like, that was...

Starting point is 00:43:20 They go to the bar like they were going to get in a fight. Right. I feel like I got goofier. You know what I mean? I was always like, take my clothes off or like jumping a leg. or something like that. You know, I don't... Right, instead of a fighting guy.

Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, I don't... Yeah, like, get ready with me while I go fight or whatever. Like, that would be... Put an eye black on? I'm about to go kick somebody's ass. I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met

Starting point is 00:43:41 for no reason. Okay, now I'd watch that. During Jesus saves, get ready with me, will I beat somebody's a asser? Also, what was you wear if you were going to get in a fight? Think about that.

Starting point is 00:43:49 You get dressed for a lot of things, knowing that there's a potentially maybe you meet a girl. That's a good question. So you put on something maybe a girl would like. I know what I'm going to be, it's going to be hot. Well, let me tell you.

Starting point is 00:44:00 You're going to be comfortable. I'll tell you right now. What would you do if you were going to fight? It's a great question. Thank you. Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for a fight as tennis shoes would. I agree. Roller shoes would not be good.

Starting point is 00:44:10 Light up shoes might distract. But roller shoes might be good. Say if you're on a hill, hit the guy, and then you just activate them and you roll right downhill. You're home. You're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy like that. No, that would be good if you were going to run from a fight. If you were going to try to escape a fight.

Starting point is 00:44:23 Like you think somebody's going to kick your ass at this place you're going and wear roller shoes. Yes. I got to go. I'm out. Yeah. And like you ain't leaving and you're like, watch this. You just lift the front of your feet up. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:44:33 And but like no other part of your body has to move and you just look back and your hair is just flowing and you just. That's cool. Honestly, I changed my opinion about this. That would be nice. But yeah, dude, there's some chick out there. She's in an arm cast or whatever. And she has a dog. She says she does.

Starting point is 00:44:47 But it's been taken or whatever. It's gotten by CPS. And, uh, and. Child Protective Services? It is. They take dogs? Huh? They take dogs?

Starting point is 00:44:56 Oh, yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good... So she says she has a dog, but it's gone. Yes. She got a cast. Yes, she's got a cast. I feel like I'm there now. And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there.

Starting point is 00:45:07 Over to snook. I'm getting my dog back. Yeah, over to Snooker's tavern or whatever. And I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight. Yeah. And then she probably puts on nice earrings. Yeah, I guess it is. Just as you can take them out.

Starting point is 00:45:19 Because that's intimidation right there. That's a move. And they're police... Honestly, I wish... Yeah. I wish I had them just for a... Would you ever wearings? Think about this.

Starting point is 00:45:30 Did you ever have your ears? Me and you in the bar, and we just disgruntled. You know, I mean, we're just disagreement. I don't know what it is. I can't even imagine. Because we're good old boys, but let's just say we're not about it.

Starting point is 00:45:41 Same girl or something. Yeah. And we're about to go down like, are we doing this? And you're like, hell yeah, and I just... And we're going to fight each other? Yeah. I mean, wouldn't that do something for you?

Starting point is 00:45:51 you're going to get her. I don't know. And no judgment or anything, but you're going to get her. Like, I'm not, I would rather be like, you're going to get her. Okay,

Starting point is 00:45:59 this is just a pretend thing. Okay, it's just a pretend thing. Sorry. You know what I mean? Okay. You're mad at me. Okay, and you take your, and then you take your earrings out?

Starting point is 00:46:07 I'm like, oh shit, he means it. I guess he's about to go down. Yeah, he don't never take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take him out when we went on the water slot after, you know, senior year or whatever. See, now it makes it hard for us to be in a fight

Starting point is 00:46:17 because we were hanging out senior year in a water slide. That's a good point. But you didn't take earrings out then, dude. If you're taking them out now, you're here to beat some ass. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, dude, I think if I got in a fight, I thought about this now, I would wear a nice suit. Because the story after would be like, man, you see that dude in that suit, beat that guy's ass.

Starting point is 00:46:35 He beat his ass in a suit. Yeah. That's cool. And then he went to work probably. And then he went to work. See, I was picturing a wedding suit, like a tuxedo. But you're talking about like a suit, like you work on Wall Street. I'm talking a business suit.

Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. Or just work on any street. Like some people, you know, people used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis. Every day. People would get, like, people took a, like a, there was a lot more, I think, caring concern about how they looked.

Starting point is 00:47:08 Bring up some images of people how they dressed, say, 70 years ago. I didn't grow up around that. Well, not for us. I'm talking about maybe two generations earlier. Oh, yeah. Like in the city or something, yeah. I feel like a person that dressed nice or had a nice job. When I was growing up was like the bank president,

Starting point is 00:47:24 and he just wore a polo shirt with khakis. Yeah. You know, like my mom wouldn't let me wear that church. And it was, that was fancy then, you know? Oh, yeah. But look at people dressed, I think snazzy. Do you think that's true? Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it.

Starting point is 00:47:38 Well, I will go along with like the whole, you know, like sweatsuits to the bar. It's gotten, that's what I'm saying. It's gotten pretty casual. It has. Like, there's like, dude, there's maybe, there's even, men's shoes at aloe or whatever it's called a l o and it's crazy now we're so dumb it's a l o and i'm not to say it what is it yeah yeah i don't know i agree dude what is it but alo but yeah i'm just trying to think was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there uh like there's there

Starting point is 00:48:12 one that stood out because that much time at flora mamma dude that's a lot so floorbamma was always a place You could get... I never saw a lot of feasts down there. You could get your stomach pump, and you could get a lot of splinters. It used to be a place you get a lot of splinters at. You could, yeah. Like, everybody in that bitch had a splinter, dude.

Starting point is 00:48:27 If people were doing the stanky leg, 40 people would get a damn splinter in there. There's a vibe about that place that's very... You know, beach bars, too. We got a little more like Jimmy Buffett, laid back, let's all get along, have a good time. It's on a pop, top. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:39 God, that's good stuff. It really is. I do remember, I was... All the NFL was in Louisiana. I played at the Texas club. Not in Baton Rouge? Baton Rouge, yeah. And I remember I was about to sign a record deal.

Starting point is 00:48:52 I had somebody from a label down there, and I was horribly sick. Like, threw up for the show, just trying to get through it. It's one of the worst right before show sickness I've had. And somebody got in a fight during the last song. And I was like, hey, like, knock it out. And I couldn't get their attention. They were still going at it. So they were close to the front.

Starting point is 00:49:12 I took my guitar off, and I poked the guy in the back. And I was like, hey, let me play one more song. And then we'll all go out back And just beat the shit out of each other And everybody just cheered The two dudes were like high-fiving And then we went through And got the song done there

Starting point is 00:49:23 Oh, that's great Yeah, that's what people Because some people just want to plan You know, some people just don't know how to They're like, well, I guess we'll frighten now And it's like, yeah, you come along A little bit of strategy for people They'll follow suit

Starting point is 00:49:34 When a leader shows up, people will follow That's what's kind of wild sometimes, you know? Even in an instance like that, I think Well, it's a little bit of like you go At a high situation with a little calmness too Okay, listen, you're gonna fight. Right. We can do it.

Starting point is 00:49:48 It's fine. Yeah. Let me give you a little. Let me, I got this one more song. Yeah. Let me play this song. And then back to the fight. And they're like, oh, that's, that's reasonable.

Starting point is 00:49:57 Yeah. Just be reasonable. Yeah, be reasonable, dude. What was I looking at? Oh, I saw you like, you do a good bit of hunting there. Do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama? I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I usually go up north deer hunting.

Starting point is 00:50:11 What do you think about turkeys? I think about them a lot. You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Ronella on here. No. He loves them. Best bird to just in general? Steve Rinella gave him top bird, he said.

Starting point is 00:50:22 For what? Like, what are the, what stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good. Yeah. Look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is he said they were the best bird. And I said, well, look, Steve, I just, you know, I begrudgingly kind of like a support in him because he was going through it when he said it.

Starting point is 00:50:37 For just because we're so close to. And there he is with one right there. Oh, he loves him so much. That one looks dead. He's got to be talking about hunting birds. Like I would think like an eagle's an easy win for best bird. Trevin, what do you think he said? He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers.

Starting point is 00:50:56 Whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. Their heads change color based on their mood. They do that? Yeah. So he was all about it. Yeah. So but then he's also deceasing them. So that's kind of an interesting concept.

Starting point is 00:51:09 Turkey's the most challenging bird to hunt. Yeah? By far, yeah. I hunted turkeys for two or three years. before I even got close to killing one. Really? Yeah, my dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how I just was interested in it.

Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, like they're tough. Especially down on those eastern birds down there, they're tough, man. We went and hunted some Osceola's down in Florida. Yeah. And it was interesting, dude. It's a little different down there. So it's flat. You're hunting in the hills and mountains.

Starting point is 00:51:40 You know, you got a bird that's calling. You're calling to him. You think he's right there, but he's two ridges over. You know what I mean? You got to know how the land lays. and you think he's going to pop right over top of the hill and he walked around the side and spots you before you see him.

Starting point is 00:51:50 It's tough. Yeah, I think maybe the place we want was a little bit easy. It might have been like sort of like a beginners or like Summer League or whatever. That was you and Caleb? Yeah, you're on Michael Waddell. Michael Wadale. They were goofing off.

Starting point is 00:51:59 I saw that. They wouldn't even let me have a gun. So I thought that wasn't cool. I get that, yeah. But then the second part was, dude, what did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like you're going to the city pool.

Starting point is 00:52:10 I did well. First of all, they did not even send a fanflit or anything about what we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions. But they had some stuff for you. Yeah, they had some stuff down there. And it was good, dude. Like, the food was great.

Starting point is 00:52:21 We had a great time. But I agree, it was flat. So that's an easy place to shoot them. And, dude, so we were out there and we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened. But afterwards, we're leaving. And there was like a couple, like, the game's over or whatever. It's like around 11 a.m.

Starting point is 00:52:35 There's a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch, right? And, like, you know, it's over. Like, we were over there hunting them. And we happened to just see something over here. Yeah. It's like, you know, like, they're in the locker. The game's over. One of them has a towel around his neck.

Starting point is 00:52:48 You know what him's texting his, texting his wife or whatever. He's not worried about it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, when I was taking his feet off, you know what I'm saying? He's taking his wings off.

Starting point is 00:52:55 He's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking mourning job, you know? We got them. Yeah. And fucking, they're like, let's shoot him. I'm like, dude, the fuck, that's not fair, you know? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:04 Like, I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing sometimes with hunting. I do, like, I had a great time. I would like to go duck hunting is something I would like to do. I know a guy. But, but that is. a fair, that's a fair, like, I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know?

Starting point is 00:53:20 Well, you go out in the woods, like at my farm with a call. First of all, you got to figure out of how to call. Yeah. You camouflage, and you go out there and, like, try to kill a bird on your own. It's tough, you know? Like with no weapon? No, you could take a weapon. I just mean, like, you calling one in is not the easiest thing to do.

Starting point is 00:53:39 And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see. Oh, that's pretty great. Like we'll have one sneak up on you. Yeah. And turkeys, because they're not going to come in the way you want them to. You go and you pick your spot, but he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as he can. You know, wherever that hen is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah, they kick my butt for several years.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. Yeah, I saw that you call him. You do a call? Can you do it regularly? Can you do right now? No, I mean, I use like a diaphragm or I got a slate call. What's a slate call? You know?

Starting point is 00:54:13 No, that's something. That one's fucking, yeah. That wasn't, that wasn't good. That's from Key West, I think. But let me try it one more time. Oh, that's, yeah, that's pretty good. It's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to do one more time. Yeah, that's better.

Starting point is 00:54:35 That's it. See how you use your chest? Yeah. That was good. Yeah. Save your chest. That was good. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:42 That's cool. Yeah, that's nice, man, dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds, different birds. There's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting how some birds you can hunt them, but so many birds you can't hunt them. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:01 Do you think that is a these taste good kind of thing? Because I've never heard anybody that would be like a cardinals, delicious. You know what I mean? Like those birds don't have a lot on. Turkey's got a lot of meat on them. Dove and pheasant are obviously really good birds eat doug. or good to eat geese. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:18 You think that's what it is. You think that traditionally, Indians, whatever it was, back in the day, like started hunting birds that they ate and they ate some robins and then they were like, that's not good.

Starting point is 00:55:27 And then we just adapted to that. And we're like, these are the ones we're going to hunt. I bet you're probably right. I bet there was always also some pervert, always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side. I'm like, look at this little weirdo.

Starting point is 00:55:36 I mean, because I don't think people eat like skunks either. You know, maybe in Louisiana, but I mean. No, I mean, raccoons people eat a lot. My brother would kill raccoons. Raccoons people eat. church and see if people had any in their area.

Starting point is 00:55:48 And he'd go get them or whatever. But yeah, I guess that is a good point. You kind of eat whatever is the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people. It's like you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like. Yeah, I mean, turkeys are from back like the settler days. Yeah. You know, like that was, that's what, it was like the guy and turkeys that came over on the boat.

Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah. And if you saw a fat turkey, people are like, hey, bring some lunch and you bring, one dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little nightingale or whatever. it's like the dude eating the nightingale If they brought like a nightingale stew Yeah You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah You're like that's a fucking weirdo I think making that shit all night Yeah Blue J casserole That ain't That ain't sound good Some dude out there

Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah Would it make him Woping Crane omelets or something What about some swan nuggets Now that bitches sound good You ever eating swan? You know they also don't hunt a lot A lot of real pretty birds either though

Starting point is 00:56:44 You know I haven't eaten swan no I'd have a little. You would have a little? Yeah. If you went to Thanksgiving, they had Swan. I bet they, I bet the, I bet Trump's eating it. It would look like on a silver platter, like with the...

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Starting point is 01:00:06 No, we showed it a second ago. Oh, that's how I'll start the show. Oh, it is? with duck call. Let's go. Let's go, dude. I've never seen anybody catch that. Catch the duck call.

Starting point is 01:00:31 And I do it at every show. People are there, like signs throw me the duck call. They never catch it. Well, I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women. And that is judging them. I'm going to take that out. What you said was exactly what you said you weren't going to say. It was what you said you weren't going to do.

Starting point is 01:00:49 Do you haven't seen the league of their own? What the heck? Yeah, I have, dude. Maybe a duck call is hard to catch. Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to. Maybe they're great catchers. And you're kind of throwing, it look like you weren't throwing it easily towards them.

Starting point is 01:01:02 You know? I don't know. That's a good question, man. What, uh, you're on your biggest tour right now. Is that true? Yeah. Every year it's a little bigger. Has it been?

Starting point is 01:01:12 Yeah, it's been great, man. What's the fear like about that? We were talking about this the other night, dude. You and I kind of had our first conversation the other night about a couple weeks ago. Yeah. We were talking a little bit about just, like when, like as your career goes along, the pressure it feels like, like, you know,

Starting point is 01:01:28 like what is the rest of your career going to be like? And how do you try to shape that if you can? Yeah. And how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go? There's a certain amount of, I've already accomplished way more than I ever thought I would. So there's a piece of mind in that. And, you know, there's also a little bit of, I'm guaranteed a certain career at this point, you know, even if I never have another hit, I can go tour.

Starting point is 01:01:51 and, you know, I can make a living, support my family, whatever I need to do. So there's peace in knowing that. But I think the competitive part of me, and like we talked about the other day, is like, when I have a hit or winning a ward or whatever it is, I don't feel like I can relax now. You know, I've accomplished that. It's really more like, okay, now I've got to go do the next thing. I got to take, and I think I always say that it's, I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can.

Starting point is 01:02:16 Because, I mean, what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare, you know, to be, to be, to be able to have the opportunities you've gotten, to be able to go and do some acting and stand-up comedy and have a podcast that's just popular and this successful. So I feel pressure in that regard of just like, I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily a nervous thing. Certainly not with the shows getting bigger.

Starting point is 01:02:39 That side of it is not a pressure thing. Because, I mean, the fans make it enjoyable. When you go to a show and you've got a sold-out arena for your stand, and they're excited you're there. That's easy, you know? Yeah. I guess with standard, it feels like it's a, I can't tell, do you lose, does the, does the venue lose intimacy with music? Because as it gets bigger with standard, but it feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect with these people, it's just the way it is.

Starting point is 01:03:04 But I don't know if music, if it's the same like that. I did a stadium tour with Luke Combs. And that's too big. Like, I feel like there's no way the person in the far back Top Roe is getting their money's worth at a concert, you know. And you also lose some sound, too, and you have to have two rows of speakers, one halfway through. That's wild. There's so much reverb and bounce back. And then you think about how much of a pain it is to go to that show.

Starting point is 01:03:30 The traffic to get in for a fan. And then, you know, to be able to find a place to park and all that. And then they charge on the park, too, a lot of times. And then you got, you know, the fact that it's also an open air stadium. You got weathered issues, and your openers are starting in the daytime. So they don't get the, you know, the full effect of the lights and everything. And so arenas has always felt like a great. place for me.

Starting point is 01:03:52 And you still have an intimate show. You still feel close to everybody. You feel like everybody got their money's worth. But it's still, you know, 25,000 people. Yeah. Yeah, I guess like, yeah, the intimacy, yeah, the intimacy gets lost,

Starting point is 01:04:06 I think at certain levels kind of. And so you try your best. You try to figure it out, you know? Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting. As your career goes on, you're like, man, this has been interesting. It's been fun to have this experience. Yeah, and you want to keep it going.

Starting point is 01:04:22 You want to, like, try your best, and you also want to challenge yourself, too. Because you've got to evolve, too. Like, I think your, does it feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life? Like, like, because one time I sat down with, there was this famous comedy manager and I sat with him, and he goes,

Starting point is 01:04:39 you know, at a certain point, if you stay the same, your audience will kind of, they age, they'll grow older. And so you have to, like, also, like, because it's almost a trap, like, I want to stay this. I want to stay this song. you know, like, because if like say you get an,

Starting point is 01:04:53 or a first hit or something like that, you're like, well, I can't ever be different than this person, you know, the person that sings that song because I may lose people, you know what I'm saying? Does it make any sense to you? Yeah, I think that what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of, you know, that may have been true 10, 15 years ago before social media was as relevant as it is,

Starting point is 01:05:13 but now if you do something well, like your stand-up videos or your podcast or whatever, it lives forever. So the next generation, you know, whereas when you had a song on the radio 10 years ago, it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else. Now everything you do lives on the internet forever. So if you're doing something well, I would really, especially like up-and-coming artists,

Starting point is 01:05:35 I would advise against trying to do anything too different. For me, what I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record, every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from, that are very me. And then I try to take a few songs and write. that are a little stylistically different and just gotta ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit.

Starting point is 01:05:54 But so you would, but so it doesn't mean like, so you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there. That's right. So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of, if you're doing something different, like, yeah, I just think you don't turn and run from something that was successful, you know,

Starting point is 01:06:09 and like with country music, you know, it's scary to do that for sure. It is, yeah. But then I guess I'm thinking like, do, like, I guess I'm wondering sometimes it's like, yeah, do you try to stay, like, do you try to make your, your life fit this certain time.

Starting point is 01:06:21 You know what I'm saying a little bit? I'll give you an example, and I know you've done some acting, is, you know, I imagine in your role, you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. So I did marshals and like, my first... With Luke Grimes? It was great.

Starting point is 01:06:37 And I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different. You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of going. That's how I am with music is, I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do, but it's not going to be, I'm not going straight pop. You know, I'm not going to do something totally different. I think melody-wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works.

Starting point is 01:07:00 But keeping that familiarity and what you've done well for so long, I think is extremely important now. Because I think the best thing you can be is different, not necessarily from something you've done before, but from everybody else, you know? I mean, your stand-up and your humor on this podcast, I don't know anybody else. I mean, in a weird way, Norm MacDonald, like the dry sarcasm of norm, I always thought he did something that was so unique. And I don't know who I would compare you to, you know?

Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah, I think you always kind of like, yeah, I don't know, I guess you want to be, like, you want to try and honor yourself as much as you can. I think with humor, it's hard to pretend to be somebody else. And I think with music, if somebody, if you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you, then it would kind of start to, you'd be able to see that after a while.

Starting point is 01:07:51 I think fans can tell. I think that... Well, I don't think you'd have a ton of, I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because you're playing, especially if you're trying to play somebody else's... Authenticity's really... It's so obvious now, again, because social media.

Starting point is 01:08:06 I mean, 10 years ago, you could have a song on a radio and people would not necessarily know what you look like. Yeah. Now they know everything about you. My dog's got 150,000 followers on Instagram. Does you really? Yeah, I mean, people know everything about you.

Starting point is 01:08:16 So if you're... not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out. You think your dog knows he has that many? Yeah. No way. Oh man, that dude, uh, he, when the camera's on him, he's a different person. What? Yeah. And where's he from? Uh, I mean, he lives in Jacksonville, Alabama. He lives on my farm. He's been playing cards. What the fact, dude? Yeah, folded. They never get in. Oh, dang, bro. He lives like that, dude. Miss Carl, man. Oh, he's handsome.

Starting point is 01:08:48 And that's a Stogie? What's that dog called? Stogie's a cigar. He is a corgi and bluehealer. Oh, blue healer, huh? Damn, he's Native American? I don't know about that. Probably. Look it up.

Starting point is 01:09:03 Blue healer. Are blue healers Native American? No. Do you know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen to ask on the internet. No, blue healers are not Native American. Native Americans. Man, this shit might be.

Starting point is 01:09:17 fake. I don't have you been like that completely wrong. That was crazy. Where did you get that from? I don't want to know. Blue healers are Native American?

Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American. Some of them have to be, huh? How'd we get them? Dogs native to North America fall? Nah.

Starting point is 01:09:37 Look up what type of people think dogs are Native American. Oh, come on, bro. You give me a hard time. No, no. Seriously, I was just curious about that. Well, when you look up, What would possess a person to think a dog was Native American?

Starting point is 01:09:50 Can we look that up? Hey, man, tell me about the acting. Do you enjoy it? Yeah, I'll tell you about it. A second, I want to finish this conversation. I think this conversation is done. You said that dog was Native American and no dogs are Native American. How about this?

Starting point is 01:10:04 Look up this. How about this? What dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans? But it's changed so much since what you... I don't think it has. I'm saying, okay, here we go. Plains Indian dog. Okay.

Starting point is 01:10:22 Solish wool dog. Well, popular, historical, and Indian... Chihuahua. Them little bitches were going back then? Remember the Taco Bell dog? Yeah, I remember it, dude. But this... I'm talking about real Native...

Starting point is 01:10:33 That's the first famous dog, I remember. You think? Except for the one that has a cigar that asks questions at the... Oh, the... You know what I'm talking about? He's not a real dog, so that I guess that doesn't count it all. That's a puppet.

Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah. So, hey, look up... Ask what puppets are Native American. Can you look up what type of... do people think puppets are real dogs? Please. That's funny. I like that.

Starting point is 01:10:54 Oh, finally. I'm glad we got one funny thing today. Finally we got. You piggybacked off my funny stuff, but you really, you hammered it home. Finally, we'll play Raleigh ball. I didn't know we'll play. I forgot it was a puppet for a second. Okay, I will say that.

Starting point is 01:11:07 You didn't see the guy's arm? You see a guy's hand in a sock acting like a dog long enough. Eventually it becomes a dog to you. Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I freaking, I know what's going on. It don't seem right. But, you know, that was, We've all been to the Neshoba County Fair.

Starting point is 01:11:21 That was probably, yeah, shout out Hardy. Yeah. But we all know. That's why they run with those chairs of the front. You know, they want to see the show. That's probably what the first 911 call was all about right there. There's a man with his hand up an animal over here. Bring it back those Native American dogs.

Starting point is 01:11:38 I do want to know what they were. And I want to see a little JPEG of them or a drawing probably. If you can see that, please. I'm serious. I just want to know which dogs they were. I'm going to get you a hand-painted, oil-based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it. You know what I mean? Like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything.

Starting point is 01:11:59 That's actually not a bad idea. And a coffee maker. Plains Indian dogs, American Indian dogs found across the Great Plains. These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull v-shaped wooden sleds called travois, loaded with meat, household goods, and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing. The Salish wool dogs kept by the Coast Salish tribes in Washington State and British Columbia.

Starting point is 01:12:30 These small white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep. Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. Dang. Read the next one. The Zalophone. This is a... The Zala Zit... Kuntil...

Starting point is 01:12:46 Welcome back. Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest, DiOvon. And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a Zwalisicilia. And they are a Native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards, and physical heaters. Dude, imagine that. I can't even imagine it. What do you mean? You get the dog tonight. That's hairless. Mexican hairless dog is a wild-looking dog. Ah, that shit ain't nothing. Look at that little. bad boy.

Starting point is 01:13:18 Look at the one down there. I saw the one you're looking at you. Yeah, look at that little boss. If you put him on that commercial with Willie Nelson playing, you were always on my mind, I would give the money, whatever it is. You're always, he looks like he's got farm aides, dude. That thing is at a tough run right there. And that was a pretty good joke.

Starting point is 01:13:39 That was really good. It made me close one eye for a while. Yeah. I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson and Farm A. Dude, I just saw Billy Strings this weekend, actually. went there. Him, Stephen Wilson, Jr., Cheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson.

Starting point is 01:13:54 They had a show outside of Austin. Lucas is great. Stephen Wilson's so talented. So talented, man. That's awesome. That'd be a cool thing to see. Oh, it was just great to be over there, man. How was the acting?

Starting point is 01:14:09 Let me think. It was just like a lot going on. It took like, I wish I'd have had more time. to like work on the character and I just had we were wearing a lot of hats. Yeah. So when you're doing a lot of stuff, it's a lot. Yeah. And you think it's not going to be, you know?

Starting point is 01:14:29 We were, I was on tour and we were filming in Parks City, Utah from Marshall. So I was flying every week to Utah, playing three or four days or filming and then go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like I was getting the script for like that day and I didn't know any of the backstory. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things I would have done differently if I had on this about the character of that. And I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know?

Starting point is 01:14:53 Yeah. Also, it's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say farmades. Because if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? You know what I mean? Like, that would be coming into an interview.

Starting point is 01:15:13 Don't worry about learning about the guy that's here like me. You don't have to know any of my songs or anything. If I can come up with a way to say farm age with the dog, that'd be awesome. Yeah, I wouldn't. That's insane. I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with. I don't know. They didn't.

Starting point is 01:15:28 That's a good question, actually. Either way, I like you. That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you. I've been sitting here hoping you would. I just decided just now. The coffee thing threw me all. I knew the jury was out.

Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah. Yeah, what do you think like, so one thing you said a little while ago, you said that like, like achievement. right? Like, they'll keep you going. But do you feel a lot of achievement? Like, if you achieve something, do you really feel it or does it feel like, like you don't strike me as the kind of guy

Starting point is 01:15:56 that feels a lot of like, like that sit there and relishes some, like if you, like something does happen to you. Like you get an award, you get this certain thing. It's just like part of the thing. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:07 I think you get a little numb to it, especially when you're so busy, you know, you get a little, you don't really, I guess, for lack of better term, sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment with a little more, but for me, I look at a lot of the things that happened as like checks,

Starting point is 01:16:20 you know, not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things, but I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM awards, whatever it was, we went a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is, I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance that's got to go well. I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does, and I get the award and I got a little speech or something, I make sure that goes well, and then I'm like, okay, I went well, and it's like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like I accomplished this. And also, that stuff's a little bit political you know what I mean

Starting point is 01:16:50 the best song doesn't always win and for me I think I appreciate a lot more a sold-out show but when fans are there and they're like singing a song that I wrote and it like I can tell it

Starting point is 01:17:02 means something to them there's emotion in it like that means more to me than an award yeah you know do you but yeah I guess I'm just wondering

Starting point is 01:17:08 like do you feel like you're good at like feeling pride for yourself like that sort of thing you know because that's something sometimes I've struggle with that it's like

Starting point is 01:17:16 I don't think too much about it, but it's like, man, sometimes that is, uh, like if somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself? I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you? Oh, I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you got to find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. Like, for me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my farm. I feel proud that, you know, could put my parents in a nice house or buy my dad a truck or whatever. Those, like, I feel more for that than anything I ever bought myself, you know? And, like,

Starting point is 01:17:47 My niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister of them catching fish in my lake. Like, I'm proud of like that. And those are things that I know will last forever. And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of songwriting pride. I think when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and it, I think it was good. It made me feel something. And when people relate to it, like, I feel proud about that. But that's a little short-lived, you know, like a joke that really lands.

Starting point is 01:18:13 I think that you've got to find things in life that you, constantly want to be attached to, you know. For me, it's stuff like my farm and, you know, having a little place at the beach or something, my folks going down there. When people send me pictures at my beach house saying, man, this was nice. We had a great time.

Starting point is 01:18:29 That's what I feel proud of. You know, you know, things I never thought I'd have. Hmm. And where's that? I think you said, Panama City Beach. You got a place down there? Yeah. That was so funny.

Starting point is 01:18:39 What did you say? You said that was my favorite thing about you? Well, my favorite thing that I heard, dude, when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach town in Panama City Beach. That shit just made me laugh. because what I remember of it from being in, like, high school and college, it was just a place where we were just trashed kids, you know?

Starting point is 01:18:55 So to, like, so just to see a text or somebody, we got a beach house down there. And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like, there's not a part of the Gulf that's not even, like, built up now, man. It used to be so different. Yeah. No, I'm in, I'm right outside of Panama City, and it's a little quieter where I'm at.

Starting point is 01:19:14 But, yeah, now, we all had our spring break trips to Panama City. and who's rowdy. Yeah. Right now you got I'm trying to think was there something that you guys wanted to talk about that was specific?

Starting point is 01:19:29 Oh yeah. I'm Raleigh. Get ready with me. Well, Raleigh gives me a hard time. You got a new album that's coming out in September, September 18th, I think? Yeah, that's just me. He's the name of the album.

Starting point is 01:19:44 I put three songs off the album out. Last week, a song called Go Again, the girl in Hannah McFarlane's on that song. A song called Think Is You Drunk, it's my new single at Country Radio and a song called My Way. There you go. And, yeah, the album's going to come.

Starting point is 01:20:01 We're going to put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then, but the album will be out to 19 songs. It comes out in September, so. Hell yeah. Do you feel any type of way about this album different than other albums? Do you feel...

Starting point is 01:20:14 Do you feel pressure to get... Well, and to the... that question first if you don't mind yeah what's different about this album or what's kind of the same i think it's uh don't mind if i do that record i think had a lot of different types of songs on it i think that's something that i i did well on that one so i made sure this one was the same way i got a lot of songs that sound like stuff i've written for years then i got a lot of songs that are a little different you know and i got fun beach songs i got drinking songs i got you know love ballads and so i think that that's what i'm excited about the album and

Starting point is 01:20:47 is I think as a whole it's a good project. But again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music. You know, it's always, what I've done so far is kind of work. Yeah. What about like in your, like outside of music life, outside of your farm and stuff like that? Do you think, like you're a guy that probably is an easy time meeting ladies, do you feel like settling down as in the future? Like, do you ever think about that? Like, you and I feel like we're both growing up.

Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah, I feel like you know better than that because you're in that world, too. Like, it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. Like, I mean, I'm not going to meet a girl to show, you know. I mean, I'm confined to the back, you know, on a bus, and I'm not going to meet a girl on Instagram. You know what I mean? And when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what. And I always feel like if I met somebody that was like a fan, I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know, I would look at them like, you're probably the same way, too, as I go in a bar. And when people start, you get a little bit like, anxious.

Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah, I mean, I don't mind being the center of attention at like a show. Or if I'm in a town, I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or a bar down the street. But like, like, I don't like being the center of attention where I'm not supposed to. That always makes me feel odd. I agree. I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage, that would make me feel really rude. And also, like a restaurant, it's not that people ask me if a picture bothers me.

Starting point is 01:22:12 It's just I don't want to be standing up causing a scene. Now on the center of attention. Yeah, I don't like that. So, you know, when you go, like, I'm not going to meet a girl at the bar. You've been to losers and duck blind with me. And we sit on the back deck away from everybody, you know, kind of hiding. Oh, dude, one night I sat out there by myself on Losers Back Porch and I was watching Netflix back there. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:30 Just watching two, I watched two episodes of something. Yeah. Why not? It's tough. Is it cake? I think it was. Yeah. I feel like if I could be in one place for a while, like live somewhere.

Starting point is 01:22:40 That's another thing. I don't feel like I live anywhere. I've got a house in Nashville and I'll stay there every once in a little. while. I got a farm in Alabama. Have you always felt like that? Well, you must not. Your farm must feel like some type of way to you. But have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere? It's kind of interesting feeling, bro. I've never heard anybody say that. And I've relate to that 100%. Yeah. I've never really felt like I lived somewhere. Well, my farm is like, by the time I get there, I'm already thinking about I got to leave again. Like, I'm there for two or three days. That's

Starting point is 01:23:06 not long enough to really get settled in. You don't really know which way to go while you're there. But no, when I was doing construction work, playing shows on the weekends, I'd be home every night. Like that was, that was, that's always felt like home to me, but right now I just don't live in one place. You know, I'm flying to L.A. every week and on the road on the weekends. But if you think if you keep it like that, though, then you're probably, do you think that there's a possibility that something could change that you could, like, you know, meet somebody, start a family with that type of lifestyle? No. Right. Not the way it is now.

Starting point is 01:23:35 Yeah. It's going to have to change in the sense of like, well, you talked about you're coming off tour and not known what to do yourself. I've got to get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of, of. being at home. I just, I can't remember the last time I had a week off, you know, I mean, maybe you're on Christmas. Yeah. But I played shows until January, I mean, December 27th last year. Sure. You know, so I mean, it's, it's, uh, if I could, and right now, I could go take a month off. I could, but I just can't, with everything going on and the opportunities I've got, I can't

Starting point is 01:24:04 make myself do it. So I'm sort of like grind right now, keep my nose down, say yes to everything. And then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this, no kind of playing off. And I'll have this career and I'll say, all right, I'm going to play 40 or 60 shows a year. I might film a little TV show or a movie or whatever. And then I can have a life outside of it, you know, but it's just tough to do right now. But do you start to think about trying to, because yeah, because here's the thing, like, there will always be probably, I don't have there will always be opportunities, but there's always like things you can say yes to, you know, like, are you at a spot where you can kind of contour it a little bit more and kind of shape it how you want it?

Starting point is 01:24:40 I am. Or are you still in a space with a little bit of fear of like, Like, fuck, if I don't do this stuff, you know? The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now my career is in such an upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to. Wow. They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on the voice. I mean, you've got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach in the voice. I mean, like Blake Shelton, Reba's been on there.

Starting point is 01:25:04 Like, it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and you've got to think about all the people in country music that are and have the careers they are, and they don't even have that opportunity. Yeah. You know, so... Did you have to audition for that opportunity? They met with me, and I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted.

Starting point is 01:25:23 And they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry that cuts up. And they came to a show, and I had a little Q&A with somebody beforehand, and we cut up back and forth. And then I went on Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and they got me on the couch. And we had a little duck call moment, you know, that was funny. And that's how I got the job, you know. I was just goofing off. doing this.

Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah. Did it feel, does that feel like a, like, I don't know. I mean, it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing, but it's also a thing that kind of like you're saying, yeah, like it like eternal, like it like kind of makes you eternal in a way. It like kind of puts you in a different perspective. It's very household. Right.

Starting point is 01:26:00 And it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans, you know. I can tell and I could tell it from the first day of filming. I'm the least famous person as a coach on the voice right now with the people that are fans of the voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever. Adam Levine's been on it forever.

Starting point is 01:26:21 Queen Latifah's on it with me and she's iconically famous, you know? So the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's putting me in front of so many different people, you know. Did you ask somebody like, do I think this is... How fast does a chair go?

Starting point is 01:26:38 Uh... I mean, about a little, about like you would turn normally in an office chair. If somebody said, hey, look at this Native American dog. You know what I mean? Get ready with me while. Look at this Native American dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:26:55 But it's not, it's not going to throw you out of the chair. Yeah. Okay, got it. If you had someone sit on your lap, would it turn slower? You think it would turn the same amount. I think he's got enough power. You could have two people on your lap and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that.

Starting point is 01:27:09 You're going to. ball bearings issue, I imagine. I don't know. What was the idea? Dude, I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes. You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work.

Starting point is 01:27:20 That would be interesting. What was it? I can't remember it. I think the chair should start facing the contestant. And then you turn away when you don't like it. Okay?

Starting point is 01:27:30 Now, what would be tough about that is you're going to be looking at them. Yeah. So, you know, like they're going to take it. It's personal. Yeah. Because the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound.

Starting point is 01:27:40 you know, or it's not who or what you think it is. Right, so there's a little more of a reveal there, but there'd also be a neat reveal if you turned away. And you're like, you're sitting there and they're singing, and they're just singing their little hard, and you're just like, you're like, you know what I mean? You just turn and face it. Because here's the thing.

Starting point is 01:27:55 Yes, that would be awkward for a split second. Yeah. Because you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away, but then you're facing the other way, you're good. Yeah. Problem of what we're doing now is I'm facing away, and then when I turn to them or don't turn, they still turn your chair,

Starting point is 01:28:08 and then you've got to explain to him why you didn't turn. Yeah. Oh. It's tough. Have you guys started filming it? Mm-hmm. And do you have like total carte blanche on what you think? Like do they, is there any like, are they intervening or is it?

Starting point is 01:28:19 It's completely unscripted. They don't even tell you like what might be coming up next. And we would do like 18 people a day, I think. And it's a long day. We get there at nine, leave it like nine at night. We're done with the blind auditions now. But that was, it's not that hard to do because it is, it's this. You know, you're just cutting up.

Starting point is 01:28:39 it does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite it. Oh, yeah, dude, I could imagine that. It's hard to think of anything. Especially if you're trying to think. Musically, there's only so many terms. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, I don't want to say the same thing over and over again,

Starting point is 01:28:54 but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it I've heard people that are, you can tell really talented singers, but they come on there, and it's a very awkward thing. You get chairs facing away from me, the lights, you're on it's on television. There's an audience there. And then they start singing,

Starting point is 01:29:07 and they're really winded, which is a nerve thing. You can't kiss their breath. And then by the end, they'll get it going, you know. But it's a, it's a, yeah, I mean, it's people's dreams there, you know, and we're trying to make it fun and make good television out of it. But there's also a lot of really great stories that come out of it. I'm sure I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that.

Starting point is 01:29:28 Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went like whenever they had the freeze in Nashville when everything got frozen or whatever, you know. Yeah. I had been at the UFC that weekend. And the freeze was like coming on Monday. and everybody wasn't sure what was going to happen, you know, because you don't know if it's going to be how bad it's going to be. And so I was like, well, I'm just going to get out of town. I was like, I'm just going to go to, uh, so I went to Hawaii for a few days.

Starting point is 01:29:50 It was like, it was like, it's not going to freeze there. Right. Not going to freeze. It was one place that had good weather. So I was like, I'm out. And I went with like a security guy. So I had somebody to go with me, right? Because I was just going to be out there by myself.

Starting point is 01:30:01 And he and I stayed at this place. And like, it was all like people that was like getting married or whatever, you know. And then just me and him meeting like, like, like, We had like five, like, romantic, like, nice, damn, like candlelit dinners. It's just fucking me. Do you all? Yeah. Just me and him, dude.

Starting point is 01:30:15 Did your shoes light up? No, it did it, dude. Get ready with me. No, his shoes didn't light up, dude. Mine didn't either. Okay, hold on. This is a good game show. I don't want to do this on a side note, but what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring?

Starting point is 01:30:29 Yes. So when you're fairly into somebody, think about how easy dating would be then. Shoes are just flashing red or green, I guess, would be like. And she's like, Oh, he likes me. And what if hers are like flashing, just not flashing? And hers are just... Indifferent.

Starting point is 01:30:46 No, you need to, like, really not into you. You need to be a color red, probably, right? Or hers start making that backup, sound like when big trucks back up, yeah. And she just starts to move it. Yeah. Oh. God, we should have that.

Starting point is 01:30:59 Dude, we have freaking so much stuff. So however mood reing works is like the heat or blood flow, whatever, your feet had to have the same thing. You 100%. Well, yeah. You might not be able to wear socks with them, but big deal, you know? Some people say your feet,

Starting point is 01:31:09 like the hands of your leg. Yeah. No, they say that. Yeah, dude. The hands of your leg is what you meant? Yeah, the eyes are the brains of the face. Yeah. From a visual aspect, yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:24 Yeah. I mean, from all of it. But no, dude, that's exactly what I'm saying. But no, I think the ears are the elbow of your head. That's crazy. Come on, they think about it. Nuh. I'm not thinking about any more stuff.

Starting point is 01:31:35 What are we talking about? I went on a shooting. You were doing good. Have you been in here? What was that? What were we talking about? It was pretty good. No, you were talking about, uh...

Starting point is 01:31:44 Look, dude, this whole thing is we're just running a sting operation on the neighbors. Okay, that's all this is about these. He's home. Yeah. He's home, let's go. No, I was just going to think... Yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea.

Starting point is 01:32:02 Did we get through any ideas on this? You know, uh, I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows, What's, I mean, like, what's going on? Is he like, hey, you were talking about this? Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way, I'll say this. Trevin, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations is going to go?

Starting point is 01:32:20 Never know, man. What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light up shoes. Oh, you're going to dinner with your security art. Oh. Romantic dinner. And this is what happened. So right next door and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on. or America's Got Talent.

Starting point is 01:32:41 America's Got Talent. American Idol. American Idol. With respect. And he even called it America's Got Talent once. Yeah. I corrected it. Really?

Starting point is 01:32:49 Yes. But now other people are correcting me because I caught it from him. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, yeah, we're sitting there and right there they had the show. Anyway, I was just kind of interesting. Because for five days, we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach. Yeah. You know?

Starting point is 01:33:04 So. Luke was in Hawaii? Yeah. It was nice. I got to see him. I got to meet him. Wait, I met him before. We went fishing like a couple weeks ago at his place.

Starting point is 01:33:12 He loves a fish, hunt, golf, and drink. Dude, I'll say this. He's one of the... What? He does. He loves that. What do you think? He likes to fish golf and drink?

Starting point is 01:33:21 Fish, hunt, golf, and drink. He loves to do those things. How do you know that? He's wrote a song about it. No, he didn't. Yeah, it's called, I think it's called fish hunt golf drink. And what else? And something else?

Starting point is 01:33:32 No, no, just those things. Oh, that's it? Yeah, you can play it if you want. Is it good? It's called fish... What kind of question is that? It's country classic, I imagine. Get ready with me while I listen to this.

Starting point is 01:33:43 Get ready with me while I go fish hunt. Now, what was you wearing for that? Fish Hunt golf drink? Dude, I'd fucking... You don't have to play it right now. No, we don't have to play. Just put it on here. We'll play it in our imagination.

Starting point is 01:33:53 I'll play it in our imagination. I'll play it in the car on the way home. Oh, yeah. No, he gave me credit for him writing that song. He gave you credit? Or he blamed me, one of the two. Yeah. Oh, we didn't even know that.

Starting point is 01:34:04 He texted me and said that we need to get together. It's been too long. And he said, fish, hunt, golf, drink. Oh, nice, dude. So I was not there. I didn't write the song. It had nothing to do with the song.

Starting point is 01:34:13 I didn't even send the text. I didn't even say that's a cool text. Or you should write a song. I did nothing to do with it. So I want to say that while we're here. Well, I'm going to read some of it right here. Okay. Do me a favor.

Starting point is 01:34:24 Read it like stand-up poetry. I have not heard this song. Okay, well, so just, you know, like put a little feeling behind it. Some passion. Wake up, coffee. Camo. Climb tree, wetline, 18. So you said wake up coffee like you were saying,

Starting point is 01:34:41 like, good morning, moon, or good night, moon. You did it like that. That was cool. Go ahead, I'm sorry. Wake up, coffee. Camo, climb tree. Wetline, 18. Fish hunt, golf, drink.

Starting point is 01:34:52 All fall, all spring, all summer long. I'll be living it up and living it on. A country boy's dream, fish hunt, golf, drink. I like it. It's a haiku. It's got a little bit of the Like the Caterpillar book to it It's got a hit of the tism

Starting point is 01:35:10 Have you ever read children's books? Huh? Like I mean out loud Like for audiobook You'd be great at that Yeah thanks man Fish hunt golf drink Fish hunt golf drink

Starting point is 01:35:21 I wouldn't mind that I'm trying to think Well I don't need to be drinking But fishing I would love to go I'll take your duck hunting this year Will you really? Yeah you just got to like

Starting point is 01:35:30 I know that you're as bad as me About scheduling stuff But I'm not going through management To do it so I'll just text you and be like, hey, man, I got these days. You was a busy guy. You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere else Barbados or something.

Starting point is 01:35:42 What? Yeah. I don't think I've been to Barbados, man. Yeah, well, I guess you didn't go then. I'm going to Saskatchewan. Oh, are you going there? She was making up names of places. The windy city.

Starting point is 01:35:53 Is that what you say it? No, that's a real place. Saskatchewan? It's in Canada. No, it's beautiful up there. I've been up there. Is that next to Ed's, what's the one next to Edmonton? Is that?

Starting point is 01:36:01 The Big Apple. No, it's not the Big. Edmonton, yeah. I mean, yeah, you don't know what they call it there. Bro, I didn't know you were so funny, dude. I thought, God. I've been trying to tell you. I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was at my birthday party

Starting point is 01:36:13 when you just got two pieces of cake and ran out the door. Fuck you, dude. I didn't even want to do it. I literally, I saw his back. He was eating cake out of the, dude, I came to your party. You hated it. No, seriously, thanks for coming. I'm out of here.

Starting point is 01:36:24 Thank you. No, thank you for coming. I left because you weren't having fun. Dude, you wouldn't. And also, no, here's the thing. You came to my surprise party and you didn't even want to be there. I saw that it. You were downstairs sitting by yourself

Starting point is 01:36:37 and the back deck of losers and you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people and this celebration. Dude, I was watching a series I was on the third episode. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:45 You know, it's like people are trying their best. You know, not everything's gonna be just for you, Riley. You know what it would be really fun? Is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party. Man, I ain't doing all that shit, bro.

Starting point is 01:37:01 You got me messed up. Let's do one, get ready with me. You got me messed up. I'll pick what yours is. You can pick what mine is. We can't do a damn get ready with me. Oh, that might not be a bad idea, really, if we thought of some good ones, dude.

Starting point is 01:37:16 Wonder what yours would be, dude. Get ready with me while I go be an asshole somewhere. That's what I would pick, dude, maybe. I swear. But what would you pick for mine, though? Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog. And I would bring like some sex.

Starting point is 01:37:36 stage or something with me. I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like, so is this a Native American dog park? Like, you can, is it, or is just all regular dogs? Or is there any dogs that are...

Starting point is 01:37:44 There's like a burial ground there or something? Maybe I would. That's a talent to ask weird questions, though, to be able to come up with them. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. I don't have a ton of,

Starting point is 01:37:55 like, a lot of times it's just like, you know, we're going to catch up. You know, I know that you have a lot going on in your life, so I was glad to get to catch up. And, yeah, I mean, doing something like the voice,

Starting point is 01:38:05 it feels like a big change because it's like, you know, you have this kind of like, you're a country musician, you're respected by people in that world, and you've had a lot of success in it. And then you kind of, there's something that's a bit more of like a commercial appeal, which is awesome. And I understand like your, you understand, like your perspective on it. And I don't know, I just think it's interesting, you know, it's interesting how things come along in life because some people probably say no to things, some people probably say yes to things. Well, the interesting thing about a career, like we've got. is you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be.

Starting point is 01:38:37 I mean, yeah, things have to go well. People have to like whatever art you create where there's comedy, music, whatever. But like, if you don't go do the stuff, you're not going to get the opportunity. And I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing.

Starting point is 01:38:54 But there was an opportunity there that led to something else. That led to something else. That's how the voice was, all the act and stuff that I've been able to do so far. And, you know, I mean, think about stand-up, comedians, how many of them that are, you know, household names have been really successful only have done stand-up. They've all acted or been on some other platform, Saturday Night Live, whatever, even the, even the like guys that were just great stand-up guys like Eddie Murphy and

Starting point is 01:39:20 Dave Chappelle and they all had other avenues after, I mean, you almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his acting, you know, and that's a great point. It's a great stand-up comedian. So I bet a lot, you're right. Yeah, I mean. I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand-up comedian. That's what I mean. And if you. didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live, that's kind of how you branch out and do something else. Because I feel like in comedy would probably be much worse because you have to come up with so much more material. Whereas music, you can now be a tour for a year off of it and still play some of those songs for years to come. Yeah. But you have to be a whole lot more creative

Starting point is 01:39:53 regularly in comedy. But if that's all you did, they would get really monotonous after a while. You get tired of it. The only time I ever got tired of music was 2014, 15. 16 in there and I was playing the same clubs, same venues over and over again, playing the same songs, and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it, you know. As long as things are growing and you can find other things like... Was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with artists? I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good tour in business for the last 10 years. So I have to turn down some tours because I can make more

Starting point is 01:40:34 money touring on my own. Plus, I feel like there's a little bit of if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it. If you never go, because, you know, like, what's open for somebody's great because one, you got guaranteed money. The venue, if it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, cater, anything like that. So there's no overhead, and you get in front of a new fan. So it's a great way to get some exposure. But if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base. Right. Because people have to be there to see you. So for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back and play a club there, you know, after

Starting point is 01:41:08 and try to get the most out of it if I could. But yeah, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done. I forget about all the spots that I played.

Starting point is 01:41:22 I forget about all the time I put in on things. So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room looks familiar. Like, oh, I've been here. Yeah. It happens to me all the time. Yeah. Right now you have the cowboy as a guy.

Starting point is 01:41:34 gets tour. Who's working with you on it? Justin Moore, Randy Houser. Oh, nice. A guy named Drake White, Hannah McFarlane, McKinsey Carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first

Starting point is 01:41:49 of first of four and second of four guys and girls just because I like having people out that, you know, give an opportunity to get in front of a bunch of fans. I'm really fortunate that all these shows are selling out. We've got big crowds. It's so cool, dude. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 01:42:02 God, I wish I could freaking sing, you freak. Sorry. They're a pretty good turkey call, though. Yeah, but I ain't meet, you know what I'm saying? I saw you sing my song. Oh, you're going to meet with Ella. You sang it at the stagecoach. Oh, yeah, dude.

Starting point is 01:42:17 I missed it. We got there the next day, I think. Oh, I thought you were there. Winded out. Yeah, we didn't get to play. I thought you were there. Yeah, dude, that was great, bro. You tell me you're nervous.

Starting point is 01:42:27 Yes, I was freaking nervous, dude. That's such a, that's such a, that's such an easy song in a sense of the crowd knows every word and the talking verses and all that. You know, it's a little easier to do, but I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it sometimes. Oh, you will? Yeah. Oh, dude, that's cool, bro. Yeah, well, the tough part was, like, I knew the song,

Starting point is 01:42:44 but then when you have a responsibility to do the words, you're like, you know, it kind of sets you like, all right, now I have like, I got to do the responsibility. Well, you start thinking about it. Right. Yeah. And then the craziest part, this part was kind of funny. My buddy, we wrote the notes down, the words on the cards.

Starting point is 01:43:03 we wrote the words on a cards on a poster boards and so he's staying in there with him by the side of the stage just in case right? And then, but I didn't need him. I started doing good in my brain and I didn't need him. And so he starts shaking the card.

Starting point is 01:43:20 Like he's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards. Because he made these cards, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, dude, I don't need them. Yeah, you're here for even happy that you didn't need him. Right, you should have just been... That was a little selfish of him.

Starting point is 01:43:29 He should have been ripping him up and throwing him in the air or something. But he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, and just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever, you know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so, yeah, I don't know, that was kind of a lot. But, oh, and then it was windy, and my hat kept coming off and I kept having a... Have a cowboy hat on?

Starting point is 01:43:45 Yeah. I kept having to get it. And I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat. Or a... Could it went that rock. A chin strap? Yeah. Come on.

Starting point is 01:43:53 Yeah. Come on. You think I'm wearing a cowboy hat with a chin strap on it? Desperate times, man. Nah. I can't read lyrics You're hilarious, man You know what?

Starting point is 01:44:07 You can't what? I can't read lyrics and sing I've got to just know it You know, like a teleprompter or whatever I can't Oh yeah And so if I look out in the crowd And read a sign or something While I'm, I just, I'll forget who I am

Starting point is 01:44:19 It mess me all up I can't read anything Can't look at anybody's sign on the crowd When I'm singing. Well, it's two different things totally I would rather know, I would rather just guess Than be reading something

Starting point is 01:44:29 You know, just take my chances with whatever is going to come up in my brain. Which could be anything. Yeah, which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just like... Sometimes it is. Yeah, it's like a glass of champagne. Something else comes right up

Starting point is 01:44:42 and that's a new idea or something like that. I love that. That's my favorite thing about being alive is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain, you know? Yeah. And other people's brains. I think it's interesting. But yeah, man, I felt lucky to get to do y'all's song,

Starting point is 01:44:54 so, yeah. It was cool. I got to see some clips over. He did good. I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude, once I got out there and realize that I could sing, it was over, dude.

Starting point is 01:45:05 I was like, I was a singer. We'll find one you can do with me and we'll come out to show. We'll get you out to do one. Yep. I like that. Get ready with me. Get ready with me to go sing with Riley Green tonight.

Starting point is 01:45:20 Yeah, there we go, dude. You have your new album. It's out on the 18th. Yep, that's it. September 18th. That's just me. You have three singles that are already out

Starting point is 01:45:30 from it? Yes, sir. Excellent. And the big as it gets to her? No. Cowboy as it gets to her. You just wait on the slide. It'll be easy. I'm Riley Green and it's the Cowboys that gets tour in 2026. You know what this is like? This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps you out. So that's what this is. Oh, that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. That's exactly what this is. So thank you, bro. Yeah. Thank you for showing up. You know, if you ever need me to come in when you you got somebody cool here that you're doing.

Starting point is 01:46:02 I can just sit on the couch and, you know what I mean? Just help. Dude, just come and do my part. Yeah. Dude, you're good at this, man. You're really good at this, bro. I watched your show, man. This past weekend with Theo Vaughn.

Starting point is 01:46:16 I watched it. I appreciate that, man. Say some creative stuff on here. Yeah. We have over time, you know. Sometimes it's not all gold. No. Man, if you sit here and talk for, what, two hours,

Starting point is 01:46:29 there's bound to be something funny in there. Oh, there's fun stuff, man. I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff. Sometimes you don't learn stuff. No, I enjoy that there's some seriousness in there, you know?

Starting point is 01:46:41 Oh, yeah. I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know. I think I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the gas energy. It's probably just both of us and whatever's going on, you know? Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers. Yeah. You know, so.

Starting point is 01:47:00 And maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though. Yeah, but we can do like a real deep thing. You know, we just share one mic and sit Indian style on the floor with just candles and do it on. You know what I mean? Oh, I know what I'll bring, my Indian dog with me. If you can get your hands on one. Yeah, there's one out there.

Starting point is 01:47:19 Riley Greenman, thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for the entertainment today, dude. You're so funny guy, bro. I didn't realize that. And I know that's a weird thing to say to somebody else, but thanks for making me laugh.

Starting point is 01:47:30 That's what I mean. I appreciate it. That was fun. And congrats on all the success. And I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year. The Biggest it gets tour. You're going to some good spots. God.

Starting point is 01:47:41 Yeah. I'll be out there. Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, brother. Appreciate it, man. Yep. Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone.

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This Past Weekend - #669 - Riley Green

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