This Past Weekend - #688 - Candace Owens

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

Candace Owens is a commentator and host known for her popular investigative show “Candace”.  Candace joins Theo to talk about gearing up for kid #5, fending off lawsuits from world leaders, and why she’s not letting up on the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s murder.  Candace Owens: https://www.instagram.com/realcandaceowens  ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner @CelsiusOfficial https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Moonpay: Moonpay: https://moonpay.onelink.me/O2ia/t34p5kxg  Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off BetterHelp at http://BetterHelp.com/Theo Acorns: Head to http://acorns.com/investinall and give your money the best chance at growth! Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Mail stuff to:  ATTN: TPW PO BOX 40137 Nashville TN 37204 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend X: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/  Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/  Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

She's an investigator, a media personality, and a seeker of truth. Her namesake show on YouTube is immensely popular. She's here. She's pregnant with her fifth child. She's my friend. I'm grateful for our time with today's guest, Miss Candice Owens. Look good. Are you okay?

Yeah, I think so. I mean, I don't want to hit it. But you can't say no. You can't say the other thing. Well, I can't. Yeah. You couldn't be like, no, you don't look good. And people will be like, wow, that was aggressive.

Well, you can't also be like, yeah, you look good. Like, it's like when someone is pregnant, it's a weird time to associate with them sometimes because it feels like, well, yeah, how do they look, you know? What's going on? And what do you say that's supportive? But what are you also like, because you also have to shut down any, like, sort of like, you know, you can be flirtatious. Not that I'd be flirtatious because I know, I don't mean like that.

But any energy that's like... Would you normally have that energy towards someone that was pregnant? No, I don't think so. I think... I don't know what I'm talking about. Let's have her check your makeup. Does she look okay for you? Just so you know, the first thing you said to me when you walked to the door for dinner,

I don't know how a couple months ago, but you were like, I forgot you were pregnant, you weirdo. Did I really? Yeah, that's your pregnancy greeting. There we go. It works. It actually does kind of work. Yeah, that's a good one.

Well, I remember, actually, this is true. I walked into your kitchen. This was like maybe like a month, a couple weeks ago. And there was some lady from behind who was like making something on the counter or something. And I was like, oh, dang, they got a little thicky in here. They got a little lady from Atlanta working over here. And then I didn't, I forgot you were pregnant and he turned around. It was me?

And it was you. I didn't even hear you say that. No, I didn't say it out loud. No, I don't mean like. You said in your head. Yeah. Oh, dang. And now you said it out loud.

Dang. Dang. But I meant like they got a little shoddy working in here. Or they had a woman that was just a little more Rubin-esque. Yeah. That's a good word. You know? Ruben-esque.

That's what I meant. They had a woman that's a little more Rubin-esque. And I was like, oh, dang, they got a little mommy working in here. A little mommy. And then there we are. I know. And I was right. I know.

I'm here because I feel like this is going to be good luck. And then I'll have the baby because last time I did your podcast, I feel like the baby came. Really? I did you and I did Tim Dillon and then the baby came. So now I think it's like a rich. I'm going to do you, then I'm going to do Tim Dillon, and then the baby will come. Ooh. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, look, yeah, I hope we're good luck somehow. I think if the baby hears us talking, it's like, I got to get out there and help this lady. You know, things are, things have gone downhill. Oh, my God. I can't be about to have the fifth. I know, dude. It's crazy.

I've been in a permanent state of pregnancy. I don't think people respect that enough. Like, I'm basically a queen aunt. You do not act like someone who's pregnant. I'll say that. I think that's part of it. To me anyway, you may act like that around other folks, but I think I never get this kind of like,

you know, like you're like crawling across the floor, like barely getting to. I know, but that's the problem. I'm going to start doing that because I feel like people will have to be nicer to me if I start pretending I'm in a state, you know? Yeah. People are so mean on the internet. Oh, are they? Of course they're so mean.

Oh, yeah, what am I talking about? I feel like if I finally know. That's why I'm not good at asking people questions. People always like, dude, you ask. It's a lovely place, The Internet. And I feel like, I'm like, how are you doing this to me? I'm so pregnant right now. But I feel like if I lean into the pregnancy and I pretend to be more miserable and, like, I can't do it, then people will have to be nice.

So I'm going to try that for these next three weeks. Oh. A little bit more pathetic. Ooh, yeah. Because you don't do pathetic well. I know. You don't do it. You're just still going and cruising.

You forget that you're pregnant, where some people kind of lead with the pregnancy, you know. But yes, people are root. People are like, oh, that's not even a baby. That's a data center. Some people have said that she's got, yeah. Wait, I haven't seen this part of the internet. Now you have to tell me. No, I saw somebody.

It's like, dude, she's not even pregnant. She's just building a data center. They're building a data center in her womb or whatever. Just like crazy people. What? Yeah. I actually feel like I go down every rabbit hole, but I have not gone down the rabbit hole where there are data centers in your womb.

It's new stuff. is they're doing new stuff. Look, that's when we start to be out of touch. That's when you're like, oh, I can't even. I can't follow this. I'm out of touch. There are some conspiracies, I have to say, and I love conspiracies, like, every rabbit hole. You know, I'm down there, but there are some where I'm just like, how did you get here?

And that would probably be one where I'm like, what do you mean? I'm carrying a data center in my womb. Yeah, it's just a router for the government or people are like, she's, yeah, she's just, she's like transporting data for Russia. Like, people will say all kinds of stuff. What website are you on? She's a dad, a mule, or whatever. These aren't even kids.

It's just like, you know. It's so crazy. I don't think I've ever seen that one. I've seen people who say that I'm not pregnant and they're not my kids and stuff like that. Oh, really? I think that happens as I never post them. Everyone's doing the thing where they post their kids and their kids are turned into a product and then they're taking these impossible family pictures.

They're impossible. When you have a certain amount of kids, you can't get like the nice, perfect family shot. And I think because I don't give them enough of the problem. personal life, it kind of makes them a bit fantastical. So they sort of write the myth, the mythology of the kids. They don't really know what they look like. They don't know anything about my kids. Do you do that on purpose? Yeah, for sure. I mean, everybody, I'm not judging people's style or whatever, but I personally just feel like that's a big decision to make for your kid. And it's actually, Skyler was showing me, was you showing me the clip yesterday of like somebody, it was obviously

a comedic sketch, but it was just like a kid walking around the mall with his parents. And random strangers are like, happy fourth birthday and like saying their name and know all these random facts. Like, hope he did good at the soccer game. And the four-year-olds, like, looking up at them, like, how do you know this information? And that's kind of my mentality where it's just, it's strangers knowing a lot about your children and being able to recognize them and know them. I feel like that's a lot for us, that we just, it's not, I think, something that we want to do. It was probably not healthy. Yeah, but that, I haven't seen that bit.

Do you have it? Trevin, do you see that? Yeah, it's actually really interesting. And I was like, I couldn't articulate how I felt about it, but when I saw the clip, I was, I was like, this is exactly how I feel about kids on the internet. Oh, yeah, that's it. That was fast.

Hi, Ava. Do you know that man? Where would she know him from? With the internet. Happy birthday, Eva. A's already. Look like you to bowl with your friends. I see you're back playing football Thursdays, Ava. Hope your dad picks you up on time for once.

That's great. Every time you share their life online, you risk sharing their personal data with the world. That is pretty true. That's kind of how I feel about it. Yeah. It's just kind of a lot of information and kids don't understand it. My kids don't even understand what I do. Yeah.

And just now, Georgie starting to. like ask questions when people come up to me and ask for a picture. And he's like, how do you know that person? And I just say, oh, this is a friend from school or, you know, whatever, and don't really address it because I don't need to right now at his age. But yeah, I kind of want to protect that for a little bit. And we don't know how it's going to end, especially when you see people whose kids are a part of the product. You know what I'm saying? And they get to the age and they're part of the product. I'm sure in their minds are like, well, we're making a living off of this. so it's good for our kids.

We're making money. But I also do think about how is it shaping their minds. Do they become more attention seeking? Are they already thinking, do I have likes? How many people like this? Am I reading the comments?

So I don't think we know the effects of how kids that are being raised on the internet. I was saying we pioneered it. Like we did not have the internet, so we were lucky. Our parents had a beeper. And then we were... Yeah, we went off at me and your dad was using usually.

And that was it. Actually, my dad was just working at the hospital. But, you know. Yeah, different strokes for different folks. He had to get in for a shift. Yeah. I mean, different things. But for sure.

Yeah, I can't even fathom, like, and how things are going to affect us. It's like, man, it's really scary to think of how some of these things are going to affect us. Yeah. And we don't know. Yeah. And I feel like the kids that have the most access to it, just looking at the whole. Hollywood demonstration. I mean, those kids are not, they're not looking their best. They don't look tip top. A lot of their kids are just going through a lot right now. And you feel bad. I mean,

you feel really bad for them because they grew up with a lot of attention. So I don't think it's good to replicate it and get kids on the internet. But I mean, it does almost starts to seem like a disease in a way. Like I think for some of those people, like even if you look at Britney Spears, she's out here like she's out there spinning with those knives and shit in front of her fireplace all this time. Like what are what's going? And everybody's just like, oh, love your first album like what are you talking about this lady's not doing good no no brittany spears i feel so bad for because obviously i grew up with brittany spears you had to pick a side yeah look at this and we act but this gets normal sorry to interrupt you kennis but this starts to get normal oh yeah she just

who normalized that she's just going to julie in something in a few minutes and so she's just getting ready she's obviously got a new job as a sous chef or whatever and the dogs are begging for help there's one video where somebody decoued codes the dogs as shapes they're making. They're trying to make letters spelling out help in the background. No, I feel so bad for her because she is an example of what, like, she probably never needed to go into the conservatorship. And then she never really came out of it because they were forced drugging her. They were, you can't come back from lithium.

Is that true? Yeah, they burned, they burned her brain. Like it's like melted her brain with lithium. It's crazy what they did to her. And honestly, people should be in prison. They should absolutely be in prison. and I feel like it's a part of the broader story that a lot of artists were trying to tell

like from Michael Jackson to Kanye to Britney Spears like Justin Bieber even was talking what's actually manifesting in Hollywood and some of these people did not survive it I mean Michael Jackson didn't survive it I don't think Britney Spears is ever going to be the Britney Spears that we grew up with which is super sad because I think she was a sweet girl

and they just used her I mean the industries we're now learning how disgusting Hollywood is but I think Justin Bieber made it out And I think Kanye made it out gratefully. But yeah, I think she went through a lot of dark stuff. And even that, though, I wouldn't even let my kids be in a commercial. Now that I'm an adult, like, obviously when I was young, I'm like, this is so cool.

Like, these are all these teeny bopper stars and then sync and Backstreet Boys or whatever it was. But now that we're adults, I just can't imagine giving my children to like the Mickey Mouse Club and letting them. it's weird. In retrospect, it's weird. So you wonder who were the adults that were in charge? Because I was the same age as these people. It was normal. You guys were adults. Let's look up this lithium thing really quick. Let me see. She testified that she was immediately placed on lithium. Lithium. In her June 2021 addressed to a Los Angeles court, Brittany Spears stated she was immediately placed on lithium, a potent medication typically for bipolar disorder or severe depression. She described the side effects as making her feel drunk and

stating that it impaired her ability to converse or stand up for herself. She was on it for years. So you should, if you look into some of the scientific studies on what lithium does to your brain over that amount of time, that's why I say it's not something that you can just bounce back from. I would pray that she could, but that's definitely what's going on. She was drugged against her will. That's so scary, the concept of being drugged against her will. And then for a judge to say, this can just keep happening,

permanently for how many years was she in the conservatorship? And everyone's like, it's for the best. And when you actually reflect on what she was going through, she probably just needed to take a break, I don't know, go to a secluded island where there's no paparazzi, take some rest, you know. She was basically begging people to leave her alone and nobody would. Under her legal conservatorship for 13 years and nine months, God.

13 years of your life where you have to... But who was in charge of that? Well... Was it a hodgepodge of people, apparently? I think it was that woman who needs to be looked into, for sure, who was working with Britney Spears' father. Taylor is the name I'm thinking of. Because there's a lot about that woman.

She's another Calvary Chapel. Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor. Yeah. I haven't gotten too deep into the Lou Taylor conspiracies, but there's definitely something there. And it's interesting because you know who I spoke to?

this is one of the craziest stories that came together, but basically Russell Brand introduced me via text to Courtney Love a few years ago, and she sent me all of this stuff. She was just like a ton of messages, a ton of messages. And at the time of what didn't know what she was speaking about that, like I, because I didn't grow up in Hollywood. And she was basically explaining to me that there was sort of a mafia that when they want your publishing rights,

they'll go after you. They'd never want people to like have their own publishing rights. So that's what Michael Jackson was fighting Sony. He wanted it. And he was winning, by the way. He was, he owned the Beatles catalog. So then what they do is they send out, like, mafia press hits against you.

It's kind of like when I'm going through right now, but it's just kind of failing because we live in a different time. But they essentially will then try to present you as a drug addict or then they'll follow you and have hot, like, paparazzi everywhere you go. And so maybe you're just doing this. And they're like, Theo's like in a crisis. He's like, pink eye or whatever. Yes, yeah.

He's on a bender, like, a night. He's been going down on strange. Or dangers or whatever. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so imagine every single day, you can't walk out of this room. And there's just people that are waiting there.

And then these people basically have a mental breakdown. You start to go crazy. It starts to go crazy. Yeah. They keep calling you crazy, calling you crazy, calling you crazy. So you think that whole thing is a design thing? Well, when she said it and she was talking about, she was like, you got to look into the Mormon mafia.

She's like Lou Taylor. And she said a bunch of stuff. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. I'm recapping a conversation. So the conversation itself is not allegedly. And she was like, but this is a publishing. rights mafia. And they, you know, she, she was talking to me about Kurt Cobain and like, it's all about ownership. She's like, you are not allowed to own anything. So then when you start

to examine these cases independently of Michael Jackson, Kanye West, I haven't looked too much into Britney Spears, but I should because you know me. I got to go down every rabbit hole. Justin Bieber. Oh, yeah, you're the chocolate rabbit. Yeah, I got to go down every rabbit hole. I mean, you've got to, yeah, I will eventually. You get an Easter or run for its money. Yeah, for real. You're probably America's most popular. popular chocolate rat. I'm genuinely down every single rabbit hole. I can't stop. When people give me a tip and I'm like, I keep

chasing, chasing. But yeah, Britney Spears and then Justin Bieber, even recently, where they were really hounding and trying to make us think he was having a mental break. What was he trying to do? Just get out of his contracts. He just wanted to go back to being the kid on YouTube and that's what he's doing now and it's so cool

that he's just, all I need is my guitar and my voice. He sold his whole catalog. He just wanted out. Wow. So it's cool. Yeah, that is an interesting rabbit hole because it is, I think people don't realize sometimes, and I believe that it is this mafia in Hollywood. It's like the publicist, it's all this like this kind of teeter-totter where they're just like, one is like you do this and then we'll do, and then it's all this system, right?

It's all this, it's like a huge piece of racketeering going on. It is. And it's also book publishing rights and podcasts now. It's obviously a new space or whatever, but they're constantly like worried about who's going to actually own this catalog when you're gone because once they own it, they also can delete it, they can edit it. There's so many things that they can do with your music. Well, music being used to influence things too.

Like, that's another thing. It's just like, okay, then we have these influential tools to be able to kind of put them into the masses in certain ways at certain times. I was, yeah, because Brittany, I mean, it's just like, I mean, they turned her in a damn Donatello out there, the freaking Ninja Turtle. I mean, she's out here every other week. She has a different weapon. She's spinning around.

Yeah, it's sad. It's so sad when you, if you go back and watch her. She's like a damn slap chop over there. No, it's crazy. Yeah, they turn her into a damn smeg blend or whatever. You know what? And the whole thing was like, you know, we had to do this to protect her. We had to put her under conservatorship because she was spending her money.

It's her money. Genuinely, if you make $10 million and you want to irresponsibly spend it all, that's actually kind of your right. You don't need to put somebody in a conservatorship to, you have a right to go broke. Is anybody put in a conservatorship when they lose all their money in Vegas? Or if you get, yeah, that's a good point. It's your money. You earned it.

You have a right to lose it. It's like, what are you talking about? Judge decides you're not responsible enough. Same thing with Wendy Williams. I don't know what's going on with that, but she's been, somebody took her, it's her bank. It was kind of scary. I was like, we need to go back to a cash society because could you imagine your bank calling and being like, your money is mine?

Because that's what happened to Wendy Williams. Well, that's what happened to Kanye too, wasn't it? Didn't his bank freeze? He got debanked. He got debanked. How do you even get that? They just send you a letter and they're like, sorry, we don't like your views. Oh, damn what?

That made me go local. I did. Like, I saw what happened. It was wild. Like, how are you sending letters? Just like, hey, Theo, I saw episode 279 and we're debanking you. I'm like, okay, the banks have got too much power. Yeah, man.

You lost your ATM privileges for this week. That's how it'll be. For this past weekend. Yeah. For this past weekend, you're cooked. So when I started seeing that, I was like, okay, so we pulled out of the big banks and and sort of my local, going local for everything is better. I 10 of 10 would recommend everyone goes local for their food, for their banking,

knowing who these people are as a human beings, I think really matters. And who was it that got debanked? And it kind of sent to chill up our spine. And we were like, let's just leave them before they leave us because I'm not considered to be uncontroversial. So if we're heading in that direction. That's just China, though, credit score system. I feel like that's where we're treading. if you debank someone based on an opinion or a belief,

that's effectively a credit score system. So like almost a social credit score. Social credit score. Yeah, that's like that Black Mirror episode that was, do you remember that one? That was so good. Black Mirror freaked me out. Really?

I think it's why I'm so paranoid about a lot of this stuff, even what we're talking about with kids on technology because I watched every episode of Black Mirror. And Black Mirror and you got pissed about it too, remember? They're like, oh, a mirror is fine, but it's a Black Mirror and shit's all fucked up. I didn't even remember that talking about. There was a lot of people online like that.

Oh, everything fine with a regular mirror, but people pull up with a black mirror and now shit's going bad. Yeah, I think they just meant the screens are black. I know, I know. That's hilarious. I'm sure that, because I feel like that kindness came out when there was a lot of that going on. People were looking to be offended. But that was, that episode was scary. Oh, the best.

And she had to be nice to somebody in this and then her score was down. And then that's how she felt about herself. That's the scariest part is when the score goes down. Yeah, Black Mirror becomes reality with China's social scoring. What's the episode called? Can you get me that? Nosedive, it's called. Yes.

Black Mirror, Wikipedia. That was so good. Are we far from that, though? I think we're, I think we are literally in it and we just don't know. We are obviously in it. That's what I think the most. And that's when you see these like mobs descend and that's what cancel culture is all about. That's actually trying to develop a social credit score.

Like, you can't perform in this arena because you said this. You can't do this. You can't do that. You can't partake in society because we disagree with you. And then it gets even scarier because at least she had minor offenses in the episode. If I remember correctly, like it could be anything who you were hanging out with. But now it's even scarier because you can get canceled for doing the right thing. Like they can dip your credit score for doing social credit score for doing the right thing. Like speaking up about something. Like if somebody speaks up, then Gaza. And then suddenly you can't play the stadium. Like we just saw last. week. Yeah. So think about that where it's basically saying you have to be a bad person to partake in society. And I think that's what we've been going through kind of for like the last three years. Yeah. I mean, at least I have. I don't know if that's a personal story. And we can get into some of it. I mean, and it's tricky. And so you have to think like, well, one is like, yeah, I think I've even mentioned this to you before. It's like, like you have to start to find new ways to put your money certain places. That's the only thing to

affect change. It's like where do you, where do you put your money, right? Because it's like, we have to find like almost new systems of, um, of everything, right? You have to find like a whole new way, like a whole new place to put your money. Because as long as they, um, like kind of these larger bodies, these bigger entities, black rock, these bigger things own everything. You just, and we keep having to pay them for everything. You know, it's almost a gift to create this new capitalism or go back to like a smaller structure or something, you know, I don't know. Like when you're just trading with your neighbors. Yeah. Yeah, I should have brought you over some lettuce today or some tomatoes.

Yeah. And we could just trade it. Oh, yeah, I could trade you. Yeah, I think I have some fresh, I think I have some fresh basil or something like in a, something that a woman gave me when she left me or whatever. But I do have, yeah, I think I have some basil. I could trade you for that data center you've got in here. Can I just prod a woman left you some basil?

Just like a little, I wish things had worked out, a little plant pot with a little basil in it. A little thing like that. Like a breakup, Basil? Yeah, break up basil. That's fantastic. Dude, that's a great eye. That's fantastic. I love this girl.

Actually, I think I met this girl. Breakup Basil. Did I meet her? Oh, no, you didn't. That was just a friend. Okay. Yeah, that came to the, uh. Yeah, that's, okay.

Where we go to the? The farmer's market. And she was looking for, uh... She was looking for something. She wasn't looking for me. I know that. I walked out for about two hours, and they didn't get a sense that. No, but that was just my friend. That was someone I was trying to see if it could be

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Yeah. And so that's, yeah, I mean, I love senior kids. Your kids are freaking hilarious. They love you. They are. They love you. You walk through the door. They just light up.

They just... Dude, I freaking light up. Yeah, you have to have kids because you're just meant to be a dad. They are, oh, well, thank you. They're just like... They're so funny. They're very funny.

They're very entertaining. They're smart. And they're very confident our kids, so they'll just kind of go right up to you and speak to you. Oh, that's a good point. And I think that is part of the... because we abstain from the technology, and you just need to go actually communicate and speak.

Oh, yeah. Obviously, I'm not one that's ever at a loss for words, so I'm over-communicative with them about everything. But they are very funny. They're very funny, dude. They just adore you. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I'll tell other people, they're like,

oh, yeah, Candace. Oh, yeah, Candice. Oh, like, dude, she has the best kids. And they're like, dude, why are you talking about this lady's kids, bro? Chill. I'm like, they're my friends. Okay? In your defense, they are your friends.

They absolutely love you so much. You play with that. I mean, that's why I was like you have to be a dad because you're just, you just... They're fun. The vibes are just there. You're just meant to be a dad. You've got to have a lot of kids.

I know. You'd be great with boys too because I have so many boys and the energy of boys is just on another level. I gotta get a batch going. Yeah. Something's gonna happen.

I can feel it. It's in the... I can feel it in the air. Just gotta keep rocking. I get people that hit me up the whole time on Instagram like trying to slide into your DMs. Really?

Yeah, it's crazy. Well, shoot, the slides up. No, there's a lot of people that are trying to date you all over the internet. Like, they girls love you. What the heck? Where are they? There's a lot of them. I get, like, text messages, I get Instagram stuff.

They are just all about you right now. You're in your prime. You got to go out there. I got to get out there. Yeah, you got to find your, so you got to get out there. Shit, I was going to take a nap later. I'm not getting on my bike. I'm a freaking bike around town a little bit.

I just got a new eight speed. Yeah. It was supposed to be a 10 speed, but it's from China. So it's like, fuck, you lose two speeds in the mail or whatever. It's just like that's where, you know, these Trump tariffs or whatever. It's like you don't even get all 10 speeds. We can't get anything in this economy right now. Yeah, your kids are funny though, dude.

Yeah, and I'm all like, what did one of my buddies say? I was like, oh, yeah, she's got the best kids. And they're like, oh, do they ever play like pin the tail on whoever killed Charlie Kirk? They're naturally exploring things, investigative. Yeah. Yeah, they're just walking around with like a little magnifying glass, you know. Let me see your fingerprints. It is interesting to see which qualities the kids get.

You just never know what you're going to get. I don't know. It's just that's the interesting thing about kids. It's the same two humans can just create a different kid. You just would expect it's just going to be you're dropping the same kid over and over, but they're just all so different. That's what's fascinating. When do you start to notice like what the difference is?

Right away, in the womb. Really? This one coming? Crazy. He's out of control. Oh, my God. He's out of control. Yeah.

What is it? And were you noticing something? Is it because like you're like, have you been having like a special sauce or something? Like are you doing certain condiments or something that could be flaring him up? No. He just, they are who they are in the womb. And I've been right about all their personalities. Louise, we could not get a picture of.

She was sleeping throughout the whole thing. She, you know, she kind of runs the place. She's tricky. She knows what's going on. And then her brothers are all different. Maxie was the, chillist in and in the womb and he's pretty gentle kind of in a weird way he's like sweet yeah he's like he's so sweet and he's like he's my sweet kid he was sweet in the womb and he'll be excited if you're

gonna like throw him on the couch but he also wants to do it very softly and like kind of like make sure it's going to be in a comfortable manner exactly that's exactly maxi it's pretty cool and they all want to be like georgie georgie's just the natural leader of the kids and he loves rules i mean every single one of my appointments and the ultrasound he's they'd be like, look up, he'd be like, man, this person really loves a, this little guy really loves a rule. Oh, wait, he could hear him in ultrasound?

No, but it felt like it because he was just, because they're trying to get certain shots during an ultrasound, so they want to check like their spine, heart, whatever it is. And sometimes you just can't get a picture. Like Louise, forget it. She just was not here for it. She never let them do anything.

She's in her own world. But Georgie was just like, on the money. He hit every single mark in terms of, here's the range. He is perfect, perfect, perfect for height, length, with whatever and that's how he is. Georgie is just the, it's all about the rules.

You tell him a rule, it will be followed. So you got to be careful if you tell him a rule because then if you catch yourself outside of the bounds of the rules, the rules come back. The rules come back.

I mean, rules aren't even rules. He'll tell me his dad's gone for two days and he'll just be like, you know, daddy doesn't like when that lamps on. I'm a grown woman. I turn this lamp on when your dad's not here. Dad doesn't like this. So he says,

I always say he's George's. mini. It's really sweet. Oh, it's cute. That's what's fun. So you gotta, you gotta get yourself a litter. I can find you a girl. What's your type? I feel like I know your type. I can get a, I think I can get a, it's just been like a little bit tricky. Because now you have exposure. I don't know. I don't try to date like fancy girls really. Like, you know, like, what's my type? Let me think. I don't know. I mean, a woman for sure. And good woman. Kind eyes. I've clarified that. Kind eyes. Has to be able to be a good mom.

mom. That's going to be, that's pretty paramount. Okay. When you say kind eyes, give me an example of someone who has not kind eyes. Hmm. Well, we both know what example I'm going to use. I actually wasn't setting that up. I mean, we both know. She who must not be named. She who must not be named. She you think.

She's a Halloween. costume of a woman. It's so funny because I wasn't going in that direction. And as soon as it came out. It was so crazy. Maybe I should have. The fact that the whole world knows we're talking about who cannot be named. Everybody's, fuck, everything's insane, dude.

The world has gone insane. And it's a perfect time for Halloween, too. It is. Because if we're already living it, people are like, what do you mean? It's Halloween is fucking Halloween every day. Every day. Every single day you're going, what is going on? I just want some director to yell cut.

I know. Like, I hope we are living in a Matrix, and the director can just, like, yell cut. Yeah, and then they just give you, and it all shuts down, you know? Like, your wife's like, all right, I got to get, I'm out, you know? She's like, got to be home in 10 minutes. You're like, where's your home? Like, Pete, it all shuts down, like, Truman's, like, it just ends. Yeah, that'd be kind of nice.

I'd be okay with it if they were just. just kidding. The whole last year, we're just running this experiment. You know, we're just evil billionaires. We're running an experiment. Everything's chill. Because the other alternative is terrifying. This is all real. And you know what it is. We're just kind of getting to a point now where we know they're lying. You know what I'm saying? And they're still doing it. So we just go, where's this going to go? We know you're full of it. We know you're lying. You can't gaslight to this extreme. And the whole world is aware of it. And not have something. happen. Yes. But what is it going to be? We're at some inflection point. Right.

Well, Netanyahu's up there yesterday. Like, he's talking about Hassan Pike or, you know, he's talking about like people on the internet. Like, you're on the internet. Like, it just, yeah, it's all become. Dude, you just, you just committed a genocide in broad daylight. Yeah. Yeah. And now you're at the White House, like, lecturing us about what's right and what's wrong and what laws need to be passed. This is wild. This is a wild update right now. It's a wild update. And they're like, McLemore, get out of the stadium. So, Bibi, come to the White House. Yeah, come to the White House.

This is like Mordor 1712, the update or something. Like, it's a crazy update. It is. Maybe that's what it is. It's just like an iOS update right now. I think you're right. And there's some bugs that need to be faced. Yeah, Nanya, who's running around his own Starlink.

This is the Starlink. The bed, the children, dead. I have. He can't even smile. That's a scariest thing about that guy. The way he lies and I don't. He can't be human. I don't think he's a human.

I don't think he is either. If he is a human, I think that's the saddest thing about him is that human people are like, how could something like this happen one of us be like this? Yeah. But then, so he must not be, he must be some aborition. Or maybe, because I never looked into it, but I could believe automatically the reptile thing because I just like, that must be a reptile. Like that's just because of a snake of some description that, I don't know, is wearing a costume

because there's no way you can be this person. But what's scarier than him, because we can just accept he's evil and insane and deranged and has never been told no in his life. But then it's the people that we kind of thought were human who then just rally around him, people that we worked with, our colleagues, maybe podcasts we listened to,

and we just maybe in the back of our mind, we're like, okay, obviously if push comes to shove, this person, spirited disagreements, if the whole genocide happens or a Holocaust happens, this person's obviously going to be on the good side. And then you're going, oh, no, wait, what's happening. Now I have to realize

that there's all these other people who are trying to convince me this is okay. And then you go, how long have these people been walking amongst us? Yeah. These are like the white walkers

in Game of Thrones. Like there was something we didn't even know and being transformed. They're just like now they're all like marching and it's a terrible season finale

because even Game of Thrones didn't know what to do. Yeah. They hit the inflection point. Yeah, they really did. Just pieced out. Like, oh shit, we kind of started this,

don't even how they end it. It's a terrible ending. Yeah, yeah, dude. But it is at this point where it's like now the white walkers are walking and they've just been walking for something like, when do we stop walking? Like, what do we even do? Seven seasons of us walking. I know. And we know it's bad and it's dreadful, but they didn't really know how to end it.

So I think that's what, yeah, that's what's going on here. It's just like, I think they don't know how this plays out. Yeah, I don't know how it plays out. Unless they put everybody under like in severe control very fast, I think that's probably what they would be thinking, I would bet. you know, if you start to let everybody know what's going on. Like with the data centers, you mean? Yeah, either the cameras or whatever. But you have to be able to just control everybody really quick, you know, then.

Because once people, you know. COVID was the test for that, I think. Oh, yeah. And we failed it. I didn't. I didn't either, but we did as a group. Yeah, as a, yeah, as humanity. As a group.

I did not fail. I didn't. I got a group project, though. Was it a group project or was an individual project? We should talk about that. That's a good question. That's important to reflect upon. Was COVID a group project?

Yes, and we did fail the assignment. You're right. As a group we did. But I was the person in the group that got, it was like guys. Right. Carrying the group. Right. Instantly.

Yeah. They said I was crazy. That was going to get grandma killed. Yeah. Grandma's going to die. You're like, and meanwhile they have to like, we have to visit their grandmother. Like, they have to visit her in a field from like 200 yards away. They're like using a megaphone and shit.

They're like, we love you. And she's like, my legs are. Rich or whatever. They can't even fucking hear each other. It's terrible. She's getting bit up by chiggers and stuff in a field because she's like, that's where they have to have her or whatever. And they let grandma die alone.

And the whole thing was crazy. Zoom funerals? People were on Zoom funerals. Dude, my buddy clicked over. Shout out to anybody who was on a Zoom funeral. Hold on. Can we just have a moment of silence for the people that went to a Zoom funeral? Because that is just, no.

I can't believe. if I forgot about this. I attended a Zoom wedding. Did you? Yes. It was my sister's wedding. I forgot. It's such a trauma has just been unlocked. I'm about to start crying.

I forgot about this. Yes, my sister, she had to have a Zoom wedding. It was crazy. Wow. Yeah. Because they just said she couldn't. You know, that was it. And so they wanted to get married.

They already had plans to get married. So they just had some recording and we just all hopped on Zoom. That's not right. No, it's horrible, dude. Well, dude, I went to a Zoom funeral, and it was a black funeral, too, dude. And it was like, everybody started beefing because everyone wanted to play their own music at their own house for the funeral or whatever. Like, so some people were playing like, you know, like boys to men, like, can we go bang? And some people were playing like, what you're talking with?

You know, like, so it was just people had, and so like people started like music beefing at this, it was like an urban Zoom funeral. Oh, my gosh. And then the guy's up there and he forgot to turn the speaker on his shit. You're like, what is even? It's like, grandma's going home and we can't even fucking. This is terrible.

I forgot we all lived through this. We all have unlocked trauma from COVID. We got to, Dr. Fauci needs to go to prison. I mean, this is crazy. Now that we're all here and realizing what we've- And he's not. He's coming out with a new pasta sauce, somebody said.

Is he coming out of the pasta sauce? Of course. Can you look that up? Is it Fauci with the sauce for real? Can somebody tell me? Is it Fauci with the sauce? Yeah. I think he is.

Is it new pasta sauce? Is it called I plead the fifth? It's called Co-Vodka. No, it's not. It is. It's a new Italian. It's a co-vodka sauce. No, it's not. It's not true. If you like COVID, you'll love co-vodka. And it has a booster in it. It has also a booster. They were discussing that. They're like, people are vaccine hesitant. So we're just going to start putting it in the vegetables. And it'll naturally just, like, we're just going to give it to you in lettuce. I also don't like. I haven't looked into it, but, you know, I'm a vibe person. That whole, the entire announcement that Trump made about, we're going to get beef from Argentina. I was like, nope.

Yeah. Nope. Stamp the beef with Argentina. I'm not buying it. Because that's something, like, why do you need immediate beef from some place that were the, the, like, rulings of how they can process it and stuff are probably different, probably safer, even though. No, buy from American farmers.

It's the one thing that people can do is a little more expensive. Yes, it is. And I get that that's hard. But you know, you and I always talk offline about like what are the little changes that we can encourage people to make. And that's a huge one. Like getting to know who your farmers are and doing whatever you can to support them and trying to avoid. But definitively, I can tell you whatever is going on with that Argentina beef, something's not right. Oh, that Tina beef.

I think they're going to give us more parasites or something. Something is not right with that beef. I think they could have been launching something new into the community because that Tina beef be hit and cut. I mean, the Tina beef is going to have parasites. That's my assumption. That Tina beef got people. It's going to have parasites because I think we're waking up too fast and they got to just get parasites in our stomach as fast as possible or something.

It's going to be a long Halloween, dude. It's random. Such a random announcement. Like, here's what I'm doing. We got 3,000, 100,000 tons of Argentina beef. And it's going to be cheaper. Yeah, it's going to be cheaper. I'm happy to spend a little more money on my beef, actually.

Yeah. I want American beef. Yeah, I'll just fast. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'll do something. But yeah, when you think, when you kind of step outside and look at it, you're like, yes, something's wrong here. Yeah.

Like, what's wrong here? He just woke up on a random Tuesday and just decided Argentina beef. I was, nah, I'm okay. And it's such a reverse in everything that he was doing during the first term. Yeah, what do you think happened there? What do you think really happened? Do you think that he was a, like, well, there was always alleged that he had like, he's had like a pass that was definitely splotchy, right? But that's every American, really.

Absolutely, it was splotchy. That's every American. Right. And there was something even almost relatable about that. Right. Then. People thought he was going to be, there was going to be a possibility there, right? Like, oh, this is, yeah, this is a guy who was on a TV show.

Like, he's at least in this realm, in this rich realm, right? He's always been looked at as kind of a loser in that realm maybe by those people, unless it's financially based. He's always kind of, it seemed like it'd always been kind of. kind of made fun of as an adult. Do you think so? Yeah, I mean, I think we all just thought he was going to like, yeah, what did we think? Blue collar, you know, he spoke like a regular person. And I think we thought that he was going to sort of enact common sense policies. Definitely was going to be anti-war. Yeah. And then 2.0 just hit different. I think what happened was the Epstein files.

Really? Yeah. I mean, look, he took 300 million from Miriam Atoll said, at least now we know how much it costs to buy a presidency. We can all aspire to that. If we've got 300 million sitting in the bank, we can just buy a presidency. Yeah. And beyond that, I think the Epstein files are problematic. I mean, when Pam Bondi said that if they released all the files, she said something along the lines.

If they released all the files, it would crush the global economy. That's a pretty strong statement. And I want to make sure I get that right. So you can look that up. Pam Bondi says that if we probably. prosecute everyone in the Epstein files, the whole system will collapse. Fuck. And by the way, that's, I feel like that's kind of what we want.

So that seems aspirational. But you have to wonder what's in there. And I think we don't really need to wonder. We know what's in there. So it's just global trafficking elites, everyone blackmailed, every politician blackmailed all over the world. You know, the kid stuff is a component of it. Weapons, trafficking, everything.

It's fucking crazy. That's what's in the Epstein files. It's like this Pandora's box. And the child. Truman show people, the White Walkers, as well, like who they're just MK Ultring and are just in these positions. I mean, that was kind of the wildest part of the Brigitte lawsuit was, I said, one flyaway comment of Brigitte McCrone was born at the beginning of, on the date that MK Ultra became a program. And they mentioned it like 12 times in the lawsuit. I was like, this is a weird sensitivity.

Why are you so sensitive about someone mentioning MK Ultra? and I do think that a lot of these people are hypnotized and they're traumatized from their youth and they are literal white walkers among us. And then they're kind of put into these positions of power, into these positions of power, not based on a meritocracy, like just like you've gone through their program or whatever, the Epstein program, so to speak. And yeah. Do you think they go through the program without even knowing it and then they realize,

oh, this is where I am? I think they're, no, I think they're farming children. like trafficking children, sending them to certain schools. I hope they're farming them locally. That's all I hope. Yeah, at least I hope it's just not from Argentina. It's not. But no, I, yeah, it's.

But I think that's what's going on. And so that's what we were looking at in some of the series that we were doing was how many times I refer to as the Midas Touch that somebody just like pulled through the ranks. That's not actually an impressive person. And yet they were told that there were some genius and you start looking into their past and nothing makes sense. And they're actually kind of. dumb. There's a lot of those people. And then they're put at the head of a company or at the head of

a country. Yeah. Like Manuel Macron gets a little dicey. Start looking into his past. So Manuel Macron, that's the president of France. Yeah. And that's, and you guys are in a law, are you guys currently in a lawsuit still? Yes. Yes. Is it something you have to keep dealing with? Yeah, you have to keep dealing with it because that's one of the strategies of how the state tries to take you out is just to bankrupt you for asking questions. And, um, we're But this was unusual, though, because I think this is the first time in world history that a sitting president of a country has sued any media person in another country. I mean, it's just weird. I mean, it would be very strange if, like, Vladimir Putin sued you.

Right. Just be weird. Yeah. No, I don't care what it is that you say about Vladimir Putin. Like, he's not going to. Right. It would just be weird. It would be weird to think that like, oh, yeah, he's coming to Nashville.

We just got a court date with the oban. Again, we're getting to this inflection point where we're like, hey, man, is this real? like the sitting president of Francis suing Candace? Yeah. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. It's kind of like getting to be like lost at the end of lost or they were just fucking like, you know.

Running out of ideas. Yes. Like at the end of lost where they just did too many things. Like the black smoke and the like. I never saw it. But I know what you mean when the writer's room is just the running out of ideas. You just got to shut the show down at that point. And I think lost might have been the original kind of,

it was our first kind of team. TV COVID, I think, because it was like, how much are people willing to go on such a journey? Lost us like a seven-year journey that most of America was on. Okay, I was not on that journey. And ended basically. Crazy. It didn't end. Okay.

So it just like, we were with you. We were on this journey and now it's getting weird. So they start to do that. And then it's like, then they make it a little bit more in real life with like something like COVID, you know? I think they've done it in the, in the mental health sector too. I think SSRIs were a big thing, depression, that coming out. And then, like, 20 years after that, I think that bipolar disorder was something that was started to be really, really diagnosed all the time. And now it's something I hear, like, everybody, like, I hear so many cases of it.

Can you look that up? When was bipolar disorder? I mean, Frankenstein was, like, the first, or Dr. Frankenstein or whatever. But when was, like, current bipolar disorder? When did that start popping? When did it start popping? I mean, Halloween just going to be. It's going to be a good one.

Will people dress up like you for Halloween? First century. First century C.E. Yeah, but that's just, I think, like, men dressing up like women and stuff. Yeah, because I think the last time that you were on here, we talked about that they, about that lawsuit. Yeah, but just think about how weird that we're talking about a lawsuit with the sitting president of, like, it's just, this is bonkers. They have to, they have to end, it's got to be, we got to end the series now, right? Because we're getting, the ideas are getting too crazy.

How do we go beyond that? Is there a way that the lawsuit will end? Like, do you guys see an end to it? Just imagine being in the court and just going, I'm sorry, what is the case I'm looking at? I don't even the sitting president of France. Like, you're the sitting president of France. You're supposed to, like, now we can't take a lot of these people seriously. That's also what the problem is, stuff like this, is I feel like there was this.

I want to, I don't say like, we almost like respected certain things. And we thought it was real. For sure. This illusion of. power at least and the illusion matters like we have to it has to feel untouchable you know has to feel like it could be real it's untouchable and it's aspirational and then when you have like the sitting president of France suing podcasters in different nations you're like okay you're not a serious person like you're not a serious person like you're like the rest of us stop this pretense is coming out of

the Lisei palace just forget it you're just like a regular homeboy you know and that's I'm really upset about that like we now we have to realize that everyone's an idiot everyone's emotional and they also happen to be liars. And so for them, they're like, how dare you expose me? I have the state behind me, so now I can sue you. And it's like, even if you get beyond the lawsuit, like, how does this work? Like, you're the sitting president of France. Even if you won the lawsuit, what's going to, am I going to be shut up here?

You're going to take money from my bank account here? Like, what's, what are we doing? Talk about realizing that it's, like, the entire system is globalized. Like, what are you talking about? And then you have Trump cheering it on. The lawsuit? Yeah. You have Trump cheering it on saying that he hope Brigitte triumphs in court.

I mean, who knows who controls his Twitter feed or whatever. Have you communicated with Trump about it at all? Well, he told me to stop talking about Brigitte. He called me in February of 2025. I don't even know that. Yeah, because I was doing a whole series on potential Mossad ties and all the stuff. And I got a phone call from him asking me to just stop talking about Brigitte and Sergio Gore. And I'm going, what is going on?

I was the White House care about what I'm talking about when I'm talking about. what I'm talking about in a podcast and they wanted the conversation to stop. But I think now in retrospect, which I've been talking about the podcast now, I think it all actually relates to the Epstein files because the Epstein story is a France story. Like Galane Maxwell, he was a French family.

And we were getting into like the House of Maxwell and her father, Robert Maxwell, being the central piece. It's deep. It's deep. And then you realize that his partner was Jean-Luc Brunel. It was the modeling agencies. It was all French. And so I didn't put too,

two together really until after Charlie's passing. The French modeling agent and founder of Karin models and MC2 model management, backed by Epstein, which was financially backed by Epstein, was one of Epstein's closest associates. Yeah. So I think we didn't realize what tree we were barking up when we started the series looking into Epstein. And I didn't realize that these pieces could obviously come together if you're talking about a world of trafficking.

And I think, you know, the mom. modeling companies were a front for trafficking a bunch of people from Eastern Europe. That seems to be the picture. Epstein also was involved in weapons. And so it gives you an ability to do that. And so a lot of these, I look at the fashion industry now different because you expect to see young women. They're like, oh, this model from Estonia and she's 14, but look how beautiful she is. And now I'm going, this was kind of all happening right in our face because as you start to look through the Epstein. files and he was like picking who was going to win pageants. Epstein won the lottery twice.

Talk about us just realizing that's fake. Did he really? Look that up. I want to fact check that, but I'm pretty sure he won the power ball twice, or maybe it was the power ball twice? Did Jeffrey Epstein win the lottery? The studies show. No official state or national lottery organization. He has recorded a winner by the name connected to a major verified jackpot. Okay, so was that actually misinformation? So let me see. Oh, wait, go to Tucker State. For some reason, I feel like I read that somewhere, because you can't trust AI either. I mean, who knows if this is...

Powerball, maybe it was Powerball, so that's different from lottery or jackpot. I don't know the difference between all these things, but in Oklahoma, maybe it was just one once. But it's like a bit weird, like, you know, and so you take a look at that and you're going, what's happening? Are we just laundering money? Is it about children? Like, yeah, what is, because here's the thing in the end, what is it all about? Is it about sex? Is it about sex? Is it, is it, is it about sex? Is it. Is it? Is it. Is it about money? It's just about power. Like, because now, like... All of it. I mean, the women, Red Sparrow, like, I think that they are probably running the most... Who's Red Sparrow?

Not that pizza place, is it? Is there a pizza place called Red Sparrow? Yeah, I think so. Look that up. Uh-uh. Oh, my God. No. I've eaten there.

No, there's no Red Sparrow. What? I've dined in there. That's crazy that there's a pizza. Is that in Nashville? What the fuck, man? Is that in Nashville? Oh, shit.

It's in Australia. What were you doing in Australia eating pizza? Oh, I was hungry. You think I don't get hungry? Just because I'm traveling? People got to eat in Australia, too. I'm banned from Australia, so I can't go. You are?

Dude. Me and Kanye, I think, are like the only people that have ever been banned from Australia. It's crazy. Okay, hold on. We got back a couple things up here. Okay, first, let's get it. And, yeah, and I'm not sure if this was, yeah, this may or may not have been the place that I went to. But, yeah, thank God.

Yeah, anyway, I didn't know that. No, nothing bad happened. this pizza place. I wasn't even referencing a pizza place. I was saying Red Sparrow like the movie. Okay, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. Yeah, I thought you meant Red Sparrow pizza. They're going to get hit with so many reviews. What's going on in Red Sparrow in Australia?

Yeah, bro, sorry, bro. You guys are chill. We're very sorry. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Just throw a couple allegedly allegedly. Yeah, good day, mate. No, Red Sparrow, the movies. Like, all of these spy women. It's fucking Halloween. That had like been put through the MK Ultra program since they were kids. And then they're sent to marry because if you think about that more broadly speaking of what Courtney Love was saying

about the publishing rights well power in general like you got to have a way to access power so you get all of these women who are like completely hypnotized to marry these men because what's always going to be you know biblically speaking what's going to be the easiest way no matter how much power a man has if you want to control them send a cute girl you know what I'm saying and so cute girl looking for sugar or whatever yeah so they like this was I think based on like it was real like they were training women. This is a book by this guy. The story is based on the bestselling Red Sparrow novel by former CIA officer Jason

Matthews. It draws on historical Cold War sex spionage tactics. Yeah. I mean, there's still, this shit, it's... Just marry a dude. They can just, right now, like, you look, you're building a little empire. So they could just send you a wind-up doll, and then you love her. And then you just leave everything to her.

You know, that's scary. And she's just like a data center of a woman. She's not a real woman. Yeah, she's not a real woman. Wow. I think a lot of people are thinking about that right now, too. Like, who the bleep did I marry? Right.

That's the show. Who the bleep did I marry? Yeah. That's scary. That stuff scares me. The idea of not knowing who you marry or what they're capable of, even in real world scenarios, like there was that case that just happened, Caleb Flynn or whatever. I didn't see that.

It's just, I don't know what's going on with people. He was having an affair. Of course, he was a Christian pastor or was at least involved, a worship leader. At least he was having an affair with an adult. Was it with an adult? It was, but it's like he then wanted out

of the relationship, and like rather than just filing for divorce, he kills her, his wife. And you just go, okay, oh yeah, also former American idol singer. It's a dark world. Guys, there's so many other options here, you know, and it is.

It's a dark, dark world, but that even in the retrospect... You staged a home invasion. Yeah. And in the retrospect, what's crazy is her sister, like the victim's sister, was comforting him. She's like, I had no idea that he was capable of this. That is so scary.

And for something so dumb, like you just wanted, you had a fling with a girl. Like, that's crazy to me. Just leave the marriage, if that's what it comes to. So you wonder, what's going on this person's head? You don't know who you marry. That is the draw of that where people I think are wondering, like.

Oh, yeah. When people say, why are women attracted to true crime, it's actually because you learn things about people. You think that's true? Absolutely. It's a psychology. It's the different mindset of hunters and gatherers. Like, women are different creatures. We socialize more.

We speak more from a time that, and speak more words than men from a time that we start speaking. We speak faster. And you have to develop those certain traits over time. Right. It's evolutionary. So women socialize and they communicate and they learn information because they have to be the ones that keep the kids safe

and all of, you know. And so then you're talking to each other like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's crazy. I didn't even think about the possibility that the housekeeper could do this or whatever as you're watching some show. I didn't think about the possibility that a best friend could do this.

Then suddenly you're watching somebody else's story and you're thinking, let me make sure that this is taking care of in my household, that my kid is not being exposed to this. But yeah. I could see some of that. I could certainly see some of that. I think sometimes when, I think,

I always thought that women watch their shows because they secretly, like, this might sound crazy, but they secretly respect these murderers. What? Because at least it's a guy making a commitment, right? Like, say what you want about it. That guy is, that is commitment.

Men and women will never understand each other. That is what I've just learned right now. Men and women are from Mars and women are from Venus. No, women watch it because it's a draw of like, how could something have gone so wrong? Like, where could, it's a safety thing. I don't see, I see a lot of women like, oh, at least that guy's willing to commit to her. No, no, that's not the conversation. Like he said he would come over and he did come over.

No. Yes, he killed her, right? But at least he showed up. That is not the conversation that's going on. I always love thinking of what it's like that meme of what guys think is going on in the girls' head and what girls think guys are thinking. And it's just we're just from different planets. Yeah. We are.

It's fine. We're from different planets. That's what I've realized. Having boys and girls is just there's no comparison here. Yeah. Completely different. What's going on in their minds is never what's going on in our minds. Guys think we're crazy.

That's what they think we're thinking. and then we look at guys and we're like, you're crazy. Like, how are you guys so chill about this? Yeah. And certain regards. And it's just hunters versus gatherers. Yeah, we're just fish passing in the night or whatever it's called. I think it's the ships.

Ships passing in the night. Yeah, if fish are passing in the night, dude, it probably wouldn't even notice because there's so much water. But yeah, dude, I'm telling you, it's freaking Halloween. To be clear, fish do pass in the night as well. There's nothing wrong with that expression. We can say fish passing him a night. It's fish passing him in a night.

They do. They pass show. Fish pass again the night. Her, I bet he is thinking of another woman. Him, why do we throw our bait towards the middle of the lake when we fish from the bank, but throw our bait towards the bank when we fish from a boat? That's a good question. This is girl versus guy.

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People are getting their wieners remodeled People don't even have weaners Everything's crazy now People are getting tits Tits on men Like some kid got one tit put on his back Or whatever the other day To help him with like some of this

Like the way he plays soccer or whatever It's like he got a tit on his back Or they doing like everything You can't just drop that casually You can't just say a kid got a tit on his back. I'm just saying they're remodeling it. Like, we have with soccer.

Just like, I think it gave him a little bit more spacing when they were like lobbying for like a head or near the net or whatever. But it was just like what I'm saying is this, Candace. It's all turned into Halloween. Like it's, it's like. We're at the inflection point where it's just weird. It's Halloween, man. Everything's Halloween. But what do you think contributed the most to it?

Because I do think that the majority of people, let me think through this because I want to make sure I'm not going to regret the statement, but I do think that the majority of people are normal. And I think we see the extremes a lot, right? Right. And so that's one of the things like, because my life is very, like, real and we don't kind of, I guess, play Hollywood or DC games, and we have our friend, nobody knows who our friends are. Like, you're kind of our only friend that's famous, so to speak. And we keep our kids off of the internet. Like, I just feel like my life is very real. And so I know. no real people. And so I'm wondering if we are also responding to the extremes because we then open our phones

and we see like BB Net and Yahoo saying this or someone making a strange, like, I don't know, just doing something insane and that's what the media is going to cover because they can't cover people being normal. Yeah. So I think the majority of people are normal, but the people who have power are eccentric pedophiles. Right. And so they have to keep escalating things. Because they're angry at the normal people are now going,

oh, I think you guys are a bunch of pedophiles. And so then they have to be more extreme in their insanity and trying to gaslight us and make us think that we're the crazy people. Like, I don't know. I think about that sometimes. Like, what's contributing to it? And basically, they want to make us think that they're the majority. But they're actually not the majority.

The majority of people don't want to put a tit on their back to balance them at soccer. Right. Some people, sure. Yeah, some people do. But pedophiles are trying to get that because it needs to be a new marketing surgery. It needs a new thing. That's the problem with Hollywood.

It was like the illusion of a majority because they had so many fans. But they're not the majority. And now it's changing. So they got to turn up the furnace. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you guys are going to be the titbacks or whatever. And you guys are going to be, oh, who's your son play for it? A tit box.

Not a terrible name for a team. I agree. But it's just, you're right. It's getting fucking weird. It's turning into Halloween. Do you think that you've influenced a lot of Halloween costumes. Is there any case, see if there's any, is there any, is there any Candice Owens Halloween costumes out there? They're probably scared because they're going to be like, it's instantly

blackface. Yeah, I will say this. When you have, when you have, uh, an artist or, um, when you have like a personality or someone from the world that you like that is black or even dark, dark, dark Native American. I've never been offended by that. I think it's crazy when they're like canceling four year olds and they want to dress up as Moana because they love Moana. Yeah. And then they dress up as Moana and your parents canceled. I was like, come Like this four-year-old racist or whatever. Like, what do you mean? She loves Moana.

She can't even spell racist. I know. That's why my kids, it's great because they're mixed. So they can just, they don't have to. They can do either one. They can't do either one. Oh, that's a, that's the ticket. No way.

Whoa, shoddy, babe. No way. Oh, no, that's a tweet. No, they're making fun of this, this week's thing where they found a video of me. Okay, it wasn't even, it's literally from my college project. Oh, with the lesbian stuff you mean? Yeah. But that is somebody.

No, lesbian stuff wasn't from my college projects, but this is just someone. just doing a... Who is that? Now, what period of your life was this, Candice? So I was playing a police officer. It's actually a very funny, long video. So this is a real photo? No, it's a real photo.

I was playing a police officer for my sophomore year college. I was a journalism major, so you had to like, you know, this was back when you had the video camera and like the early editing in 2008 or whatever. And so your final project was always to pick a topic and then you had to, like, create a video and submit it. So somebody hacked my... And then you put it up on YouTube,

and I guess I didn't private or on... or whatever. So for some reason, back in June of 2025, somebody hacked my YouTube account from college, which only had this video because you have to just send the link to your professor or whatever. Sorry. Yeah, you're good. Is that good? Yeah, I guess somebody hacked my YouTube account last year from, so it's a two-decade-old video. It's still hilarious. People should actually go watch it. And it was just, we were covering the Adderall epidemic on college campuses. Yeah. And we were obviously being, it was satire so we were leaning into like getting arrested

because the person was a drug dealer who was selling Adderall. So it's just a video from school? But is that what, because there was something I saw last week was like about lesbianism or something like that? But did you ever practice lesbianism? I don't care if you did. It's a form of which crap.

Did you ever practice lesbianism? No, of course it was totally fake. It was their latest like Candace drop and it was so insane because we were like what is going on? How are you taking this innocent college video? and so they're like, we hacked this, and then we found that she had a Twitter account,

and I'm like, yeah, like, what is wrong with any of this? And then, of course, if you put it all into Claude, they're like, and then they just pretended that this account. They're like, we can't show you how, but this connects to all of these crazy lesbian accounts from 2008. I'm like, dude, 2008 is too early, A, and they made a mistake. Could you have been a lesbian at that time? No, but if I was a lesbian at that time,

you just go to the bar, I'm on a college campus. Like, you go to a frat party. You don't make, like, 2008 wasn't a time where people were making. Oh, you could have hung your tongue out of your mouth I'm like this is, I think they just got the, it's like, what are we even talking about? People don't need to make accounts. We, Facebook just started. Like, you know, people weren't doing this kind of stuff.

The world wasn't that weird in 2008. So, but anyways, what was really funny, though, was they only messed up on one point. So they then, like, of course, tried to find all these accounts that didn't have, you know, didn't have a person's face. And it got debunked pretty quickly. But the thing that they forgot, you want to know what saved me? I had a trashy tattoo. and a belly ring and they forgot to put it on there. And I was like, see, Mom, I disobeyed you.

I told you. Dunking on my mom, two decades later. I'm like, you see, I told you this tattoo would pay off. Wow. Yeah, because they forgot the tattoo and the belly ring and the belly rings. Because, you know, millennials, and I always talked about it on my podcast at the Daily Wire. She was like, you know, this was the regret because tattoo removal is very, very painful. but they just forgot it in the in the Candace series

and then so the whole thing got clearly. I was like guys, people weren't, it's just weird. So you never did it then? No, of course. No, do you notice what they were accusing me up? They were, it was like, they weren't even casual. It was so Epstein-coded. They were like this website.

She's had six, like six profiles on adult friend finder trying to find group, like group sex. Group activities or whatever? Yeah, like I'm like, people weren't doing that. We had blackberries, man. It was a simpler time. Yeah, dude. First of all.

We had blackberries. And also any woman with a blackberry. BBM. T-Mobile was like that sidekick. That was a lesbian. That was a lesbian item. I never had a sidekick.

Maybe it was a lesbian item. I feel like. I know my mom had a sidekick. Did she? She did. But where, so wait, was there a photo that's not, so none of the things that they were saying were sexual pictures, right? No, no, no.

Then they tried to like, like, there was no, there was no sense. It was totally schizophrenic. Put lesbian Candace and see what it is. So they tried to put up this photo. It's going to be half the WMBA, so we can't do that, dude. Yeah, so then they tried that photo in the corner, and then they... Let me see it. They didn't know I didn't have a...

They didn't know that I had a belly ring and a tattoo. So then they tried to go back and be like... Whoa, Candace, is that you? And ain't me, unfortunately. Who is that? So then they found the photos after of my tattoo, and I was like, y'all, you guys already fumbled the ball. You can only do the fake, you can only try the fake porn thing once.

I was like, you missed the trashy tattoo and you missed the belly ring. And then they... They found the actual photos of me in college and I had a trashy tattoo. Oh, dude. When you're in college, dude, everybody, who is, I couldn't name 75 people also men when I was in college that weren't lesbians, first of all. But yeah, I mean. Everybody, dude.

What was it, Burnett? Bro, you hang your tongue out the frickin, just out of a moving car window and something will run across it. It was literally disgusting. It's just a different time. But, I mean, I kind of benefited from just, I was always just very honest with my audience about, like, I talked about the tattoo regret, belly rings, the like, Christina Aguilera phases.

drinking in college. I'm mad. And I think that you get this, like, that's one of the things that I think I benefited from is just I've never pretended to be this perfect person, you know? Like, I, I mean, I drank in college.

It's all normal life. It's not like you're not going to have a normal life, right? But like, then, like, going to, like, the sex route and, like, trying to pretend that people are prostuting on your internet. It's just, because I don't support Israel. Like, it's just like, we're getting a little crazy. You know what I mean? Like, there's something about that that I was like,

it feels, I don't know, like, not. Well, it just feels cheap. I mean, it feels. But it's like it goes back and you're trying to edit my character. It's like I've already told you the flaws. Like you don't need to, you know, and like to try to sexualize things is crazy to me. Well, I think we're in a different time where you can't use those types of things as much anymore, right? Say you were somebody that had even dated a woman, who cares?

And say you were somebody that was going through a tough time and was selling and was like involved in like some sort of sexual things. So what? Yeah. Like people are human people, right? Yeah. What somebody then also said is the new thing now. We're also just lucky that the internet wasn't what it is now. But someone was even saying that now what they do is they get these like, you know,

there'll be these like data leaks and they'll be able to find like an old password of yours. And so then they'll go, this gratefully didn't happen to me. And they'll, but they'll like access dormant accounts. And then they'll create profile. Like they'll create a digital profile for you and you've never even been on this website. So now it's getting very sophisticated and people just need to be careful on the internet. Like, and maybe that goes back to my point earlier about me just not wanting to put my kids out there. Because if you're putting your kids out there on the internet and your public, how do you know they're not already creating fake identities for your kids?

You know what I'm saying? Like, pretending your kid has a TikTok or whatever it is. Just using a dormant account and creating a whole profile. Like, there are entire profiles of me, profiles of people, you know, good fan profiles. But then there could also be profiles that are not fan profiles that hate you. Yeah, I saw one. There was one of you, I think it was somebody that said it was like dark farmer women or whatever. Bring that one up.

No, do not. Is it, what is it? It's not illegal or anything. It was just like, it was like, it was kind of a farmer's only dating thing or whatever. Oh, Farmer. Not dark, it was darker farmer women or tan. Or tan farmer women and you were like the most tan on there or something. Oh, me?

Yeah, it was just a conservative female dating site or something. What? I have an account on darker farmer women? Look, I don't think it's a bad look. No, that's so crazy. No, pull that up. You make it sound very negative. No.

It's a good place for people to meet people, especially in Murphy's borough. There is no way. Are you kidding? I'm not kidding. I know I saw this. Or I, you know, you go through, you just like, you scroll and you see stuff. No, this he has to actually find. Yeah.

Like, uh, or like mahogany farmer. Something like that. I don't know what the terminology was used. Sorry. Wait, so is it like a website dedicated to black farmers literally? No, it's a, at the end, it's sort of like an urban farmer dating site, I think. Wait, like urban like city or urban like black people. I mean, whatever you want it to be.

I don't know. I've never heard of this. Okay, I think it's like people, but I don't know. Why are you on these websites? I'm not on them all the time. I'm just trying to do my best. Look, I'm telling you, it gets, I got to get a family suit. You've got to get a family sued. I didn't even know about this.

And this is how you get one sometimes. Yeah. You got to go, you got to search, you got to shop around. There you got. You learn something new every day, an urban farmer site. Are they using my photo, though, for real? No, it was somebody, it could have been something that was fictional. Who knows what's real anymore?

Oh, yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah, I was like, I thought you were saying like you were on the website and there was a profile for me. No, I saw a profile, but I don't think that it was, it wasn't a sexual thing. Black female farmers, farmer dating. I didn't know if this was a thing. Single farmers dating. Okay. I love this.

Let me see. Because we need more black farmer women. And look at this white woman sneaking in, even the third woman. This is crazy. I didn't even know it was what, like there's so many websites. Oh, there you go down there. Let me see it. women of a different breed right there.

I'm that special lady. Pull up. What are you doing on this website? Huh? I'm just looking and see what's online. That's so crazy. Wait, she's not black. That's what I'm saying.

Some of these girls are be trying to late. Oh, that seems like a bot. Some of these dating sites are so bots. And who is that lady? I'm a professional high fashion model. That's how it starts right there. There you go. Right there.

That is hilarious. And that's your Epstein bot right there. It's dark, Candice. And I'm talking about the wind. Easy. It's dark out there. I think we all just got it. Some of us too much online sometimes.

It is. And I was even, because we were just talking about it now of like the millennials, we kind of carved it all out. And even the earlier dating sites, like it was so much more innocent then. Like people were on like e-harmony.

There were like commercials for it. And then I was, I was telling my producer, Ashley, I was like, even when Tinder got started, my friends that were on Tinder, they, it was, people would go on dates and it was normal.

And then everything became so sexual. I feel like in like 2012, things kind of went down a drain and maybe a little later. I mean, it was like 2015, but I don't know, there was like an innocence to the internet in the beginning and then it got very dark and sexual and weird and Tinder got taken over and then it was like Netflix and chill and then people kind of migrated and went to Bumble because they were trying to get out of that filth. And now it's just like, I can't imagine trying to date at all. Like it's just really, especially online, like that you just don't know. Like everything is so, scary now. Well, yeah, yeah, in the beginning, it was kind of like casual. It used to be a lot

more innocent. And Google used to be real, by the way, the results that we got back, there were so many different options. Yeah. And then I feel like we stepped into like a totally different era where everything now is like fake, fake and gay. Like I always say, it's just fake and gay. And you're like, okay, what's real? Are these like, there, we just got bots everywhere. It's trying to tell you what to think. Google is no longer giving you every answer. It's like telling you what the answer needs to be. As soon as you answer, you can't even trust the first answer on Google.

You actually should just dismiss the first answer on Google, and then you have to, like, use to have all of these options. And I try to explain to people. I'm like, the internet is now fake. It's just everything about it is a veneer. Right, it started to almost digest its own self in a weird way. But they got smart and we're like, no, we need to tell them what to think

and not show them what other people are thinking. Wow. You know, the dead internet theory. That is 100%. I believe that. The dead internet theory is an online concept, which suggests that the internet is now mostly controlled by automated bots and AI generated content instead of real people.

I agree. X definitively. I mean, X is just a bot farm. X is the grossest. So gross. Dude, X? What did Elon do? What happened?

Because it is the sickest place. You don't even go on anymore. I don't even know anybody who goes. It's just like kind of a trashy spot where people are trying to sell meme coins. Let's just be honest. Twitter was better when Jack Dorsey ran it. Wow. We got to just drop.

We got to drop that right now. But do you think that something happened where then? like the people, maybe Elon bought it and then they just, like, haters bought so many bots. Like, do you think it's bots? Or do you think it's bots? They're obviously fake profiles. I mean, I remember at the, like, inflection point when they were really trying to get Trump to go to war. And Trump was like, I have 100% support in their public, like, a ridiculous poll that's so obviously not true.

But I remember Michael Knowles, he tweeted something and he like ran a poll of like, do you support the Iranian war? and it was like 100% of people supported it. It's awful. That, come on Twitter. And you can see sometimes where they launch all these bots. And the trends are completely controlled now. So like, you will never see a bad trend about a Zionist. And then no matter what people who are anti-Zionists do,

they like try to clean it up and like go after people. So they're controlling the trends, the bots. And I don't know why he allowed that to happen because he kind of came in like, I'm going to rescue X, but, you know, maybe it wasn't a good business deal. and so he's just, you know, cut some deals on the side. But everyone knows that it's bots. But I will say this because I don't think it's a bad thing because people are aware of it.

So I think now we're kind of becoming like antibiotic resistant. Do you know what I mean? Like they're trying to ascend. And we're just like, okay, this is obviously a nonsense. Nobody actually believes this. Nobody believes these charts. Yeah. Right.

So it's having the opposite effect. And so it's a good thing that we now realize that the internet is dead. Like a dead internet theory is really. And, yeah. But now what happens from here? Because here's the thing. Say if there's these higher, like, dark powers and they control everything, once people

start to look up and just not be stuck in the confusion anymore, right? To realize that, oh, everything's being controlled. It's all, like, kind of so much of things are a myth. You have to immediately control all of them or they'll get out of the cage. You know what I'm saying? The natural wrap right now. Right. That feels like, yeah.

I don't think they know what to do. They're like pouring more of it on and it looks even more ridiculous. Yes, bizarre. It's like, yeah. We know people don't think this. What are you talking about? We know these are bots. What are you saying?

That's what I'm saying. The average person doesn't think like this. So I don't think they ever thought through this plausibility that there would be this awakening this quickly. Because it did kind of happen quickly. Like we went, the last few years have been, I feel like. Everything's gone faster. Everything's gone faster. The evil has gone faster.

The hope has gone faster. I think more people are kind of like hopefully, hopefully heading towards faith and trying to find that maybe this is the time where it's just another time in history where you realize that maybe this is something that brings a lot of people back to faith, you know? But even faith is getting exposed,

like the faith grift, so to speak, has been exposed in some areas for sure. I think over the last three years as well where you got these like pastors who are like ripped jeans and trying to relate. And now we're like, wait a second, you're totally just a government. Oh, yeah, like calves for Christ.

You'll see those guys doing like the workouts or whatever. Like these calves are for Christ, you know what pocket of the internet are you in? I've never seen calves for Christ. I've never seen black farmers. Like, where are you right now? Bro, what are calves for Christ? Bro, I'm online. I'm online, Candice.

I'm online, Candice for Christ. I've never heard of this. But I'm just saying Jesus, he might have been able to hold himself up on the cross if you'd had these calves. No way. Yeah, there's a lot of dark stuff out there, can you? I just got to like jump into your entire algorithm right now. You're seeing things that I'm just not seeing on the internet.

But yes, to your point, I was talking more about, like, the megachurch sort of cool pastor that, like, relates to you and all that stuff. Well, yeah, I think everything can get corrupt, right? It's like, the ego is very scary. Like, some of these megachurches, because I, when I, yeah, I mean, the kind of money to bring in, I'll tell you where I was my moment where I said, okay, this is something's going on here. All right. I don't know if we're drug trafficking, what's going on here with these megachurches. who's funding them was when Joel Austin

Plummer went to go fix a toilet at his megachurch and he like accidentally hit a wall and found $300,000 cash. You're lying. Behind a toilet. Let me see it.

And then Joel Austin comes out and he's like, oh, there it is. Oh, dang. Oh, there it is. We didn't realize 300. That's, you know, I hate, I hate when that happens. I accidentally lose 300K behind the toilet.

And I'm going, are we all accepting this answer for like 300K cash found? And like, I think something else is going on here. I don't know. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. If these walls could talk. They'd say, hey, I need to get to a bank. Look at this.

This is real. The plumber was Justin Colley. A plumber named Justin Colley found roughly 500 envelopes containing cash checks and money orders hidden in a wall behind a loose toilet at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church in Houston on November 10th, 2021. The old loose toilet trick, huh? Yeah, yeah. Let me come over there.

You heard you got that loose toilet. And then look at the resolution there. The church stated that the original stolen amounts had been covered by insurance and that the recovered funds were inventoried. So you're telling me it was stolen and then someone just put it in a behind a toilet. Like what would be the purpose of that? Sounds like laundering. It sounds a little bit like maybe we need to be investigating that a little further. Houston, please confirm that the serial numbers and dates on the.

recovered checks linked to the stash to an unsolved March 2014 burglary worth 600,000, about $200,000 in cash and $400,000 in checks. Think about the story that's trying to tell us right now. Was reported stolen from the church safe. So you stole it and instead of just walking out with it, you decided to put it in a toilet. Like, I don't think that happened. I think there might have been something going on inside of the church and then you filed for insurance and you got money.

And then, like, of course, on Sunday when they find it and it's a whole scandal, it's just like, oh, praise God. You know, trade to St. Anthony. And there it is. There it is. There it is. I'm going, are we accepting? My money has come along.

They're over there filing off their fingerprints. I'm like, guys, come on. I've been around. You don't just find 300K behind a toilet. Different times. Different times. But, yeah, I was like, okay, these. mega churches are getting real mega

you know. Well it's all everything is like that's the thing about it's like I don't know it's a everything's a tough balance to take care of yourself and not to get too and not to get caught up corrupted. Yeah. It's Halloween man it's turning into Halloween.

Yeah what are some good what are some good Halloween costumes I wonder Oh what are you going to be for Halloween? Probably Brigitte's wiener probably Brigitte would be a great costume Brigitte would be a great costume. Would people be Macron's wiener for Halloween? Has anybody ever been that?

Is that a crazy thing to say? I don't think so. I don't think they'd be thrown in jail. They don't have free speech in France. Yeah. Really? Yeah, we're headed that direction. They don't have free speech in France.

That's why the journalists that covered the story had to, like, move out of France. Uh-uh. Yeah, for eight years. Xavier Pussar to work on the story, the government was just coming after him. Have you ever spoken to him? Oh, Xavier Pussard? Yeah. The whole basis of the podcast I did was his work.

So he's the one who, he's the real hero of the story. I mean, he was, you can't, that's like, that's old school journalism to commit yourself to one story for eight years and people aren't used to it because we live in such an ADHD society. That's been like me of the Charlie Kirk case. I just haven't let it go. Yeah. And it's, it's how journalism used to be.

You don't just cover something for five seconds and then just dismiss it because you can't. If it's actually a case or something that big, you have to, you know, read the documents. You got to follow what's going on. You have to know the characters or a lot of characters. Yeah. I want to ask you about it really quick. Let me see this. So this says France has freedom of speech, but it is not absolute and comes with specific legal limits.

So you don't have freedom of speech. French people trying to be tricky. So you don't have it. We have freedom of speech, but it comes to every time. Paulevo freedom? All right, exactly. Take that statue of liberty. I never been.

Man, honestly, bro. and no disrespect to the French, bro, but I've never really been a big fan of the French, bro. You know, I will say... And that's fine with me, and that's fine with me, Cah. People in Paris are not like the people and the rest of France. It's like a different...

It's kind of like judging all of America based on New Yorkers. That's fair. Or more like L.A. people. I just think, I don't know. My favorite place in the world is in France, so it's called Anci. Can you look it up?

That's random. What are you doing? I thought all these places. I was carus and I had a lady at the time and we was carusin through. Is this the Basil lady? Netflix and Chillin' No, different girl. No?

My old girlfriend. Ancia. Can you see this the downtown? Ken Renée. It's just a small place. Wow, beautiful. It's a little town over there. Yeah?

Get you a little chocolate. You must have really liked her. It's like being in that show, chocolate. You ever remember that movie? You must have really liked her. I did like her. Yeah. What happened?

Oh, I don't know what happened. I think I was this. It was you. I was cheating probably. It was you. It was you. It was you. It was you.

Just being just a wiener head. That reporter was amazing. That what? That reporter in France. Was he? Yeah. Did you ever have him on your show? He, yeah.

So I actually went out and interviewed him in London because I just couldn't even comprehend the idea of dedicating yourself for eight years to one story. Do you know what I'm saying? And then having to move your entire family. There's no upside for your family. Like he's- So they made his family move because he was-

No, he was getting chased by the government. They were doing things and they went after every single journalist that tried to cover the story. What's his name? Picard or whatever? Xavier Poussard. Xavier Poussard. Poussard, yeah.

And he just did the most amazing work and had to wait years, even when he was filing for things that he rightfully was supposed to get. I mean, it's like me right now trying to file FLAA requests. And the government just keeps telling us, nope, doesn't matter. Don't have to answer. Don't, you know. And so for eight years, he fought them on this Brigitte story and the book, becoming Brigitte, which I based the podcast series on, is amazing. It's absolutely amazing. amazing. So this is the guy who's, and what are his major beliefs?

Major beliefs in regard to... And in regard to all of his research, the whole goal of the research is what? Is it just to... And he's never been sued, by the way, by Brigitte. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. He's never been sued by Brigitte for defamation. It says Xavier Prasar published articles and subsequently a book titled Becoming Brigitte. Mm-hmm. That amplified debunked online... See? Debunked Online hoaxes. It's just not true. It's why you can never trust the AIO.

overview because it's just the government. So you're saying that what the AI overview here is saying is not true. Yeah, it's never been debunked. It's never been debunked ever. Let me read what it says real quick. That amplified debunked online hoaxes claiming Rzeet was born biologically mailed these false narratives subsequently gained international traction after being shared by various commentators and media figures. Looking at you, Candace Owens. But what really happened? For him, they never sued him, but they came after his businesses. You know, it's the squeeze. Like I was talking about, one of the mechanisms is though I try to bankrupt you, kind of terrify you.

They went after other journalists on the case and sued them for defamation. Never on the point that Brigitte was born Jean-Michel Trough. No, my lawsuit is not about whether or not Brigitte McCrone is a man. They always, and that's what they do is they try to win these cases on a technicality. Like she's suing me, like I said, for mentioning MK. Ultra for saying that she stole her brother's idea because she didn't steal it or whatever. So accusing somebody of theft is accusing somebody. being a criminal.

And that's basically what they did. And then they tell the press, and so the press runs Candace Owens, is being sued for defamation for calling Brigitte a man. Read the case. I'm not being sued for calling Brigitte a man. But people,

we never go read the case. Nobody reads the case. And that's the problem with the press. And then what happens is you then go on to AI and it scrapes. And so it's Candid Jones is being sued for saying Brigitte a man. I'm not being sued for saying

Brigitte's a man. Fuck. She's never sued anyone for saying that she was born a man. And do people think that she was born a man? A lot of lawsuits are like that now. It's just for PR reasons to say that you're suing over something that you're not suing of the entire nature. Because she's got a small frame.

I don't even know if she could hold a wiener up on if you had one on her. Pull her up. Brigitte's old now, you know. Brigitte's like 80 something now. Pull her body up a little bit or not her body. Don't do it like that. But just pull her up as a tall person. Do not pull up Brigitte's body.

I'm going to strongly say reject, do not do that right now. What? Yeah, get that gander right there. Oh, that body couldn't hold a strong Frank at all. I'll tell you that straight up The case is absolutely fascinating The real weaner right here is that dude nexter Who is that freaking

One of the most protected people ever, Brigitte Is she really? She really is the question Is really she? Or is really he? Hey To he or not to he That is the question

If these vaginal walls could talk You know what I'm saying, bro? They wouldn't say a word Because they're not here The little crazy story But Brigitte, I'm not taking back Anything that I've said, that's for sure We can't all be weaners

Exactly It's just the Brigitte story is crazy We gotta stop But if I had a little wiener I'd fucking keep that bitch on me, bro If I was a woman I wouldn't mind having a little wiener probably Like if you were a woman

What you couldn't If you were a woman Right, but if you had one, I'd keep that thing on me, keep that Drake-o on me. Yeah, you would. Pull it out every now and then. Yeah, I sense me. Be like, hey, I'm going to set something in your hand, guess what it is or whatever. Dude, do you think this is a new game I like to play what people is?

Do you think you could- I don't want to play that game. Okay, sorry. It'll have a follow up there. It's could you draw your wiener from not even looking at it, just guessing what it looks like? I think it would be an awesome contest to have. You had people, and he had like 100 people, they draw their wiener. show their wiener or anything.

They just draw their wiener. Whoever gets closest wins almost maybe $2,000. So this is the thing where I say women and men will never be able to understand each other. Why? Because I don't think that that's a thought that's ever crossed the mind of a woman thinking about what men could think about. Oh, yeah, a little wiena contest, little art. Because I think we normally think it's hot dogs. Yeah.

Weener competition is Kobayashi consuming as many of hot dogs. Oh, maybe rich women. They want that waggo, Frank, or whatever. Yeah, that's it. So this, that competition. I'll talk about the Lord's Lincoln log. I'm talking about that body weiner. Anyway, let's move on, sorry.

You have done a lot of research, probably maybe more than anybody, on the Charlie Kirk case. I have. Right? And I'm sorry about the loss of your friend. Thank you. I've seen, it's just some, just you've been able to share some emotional moments over the past year. talking about him and some of you guys's relationship. What is the one thing about the case that you just can't get over, right?

Like, what's one thing about the case that keeps you up at night that has you believing like there's something else going on here? So if we're talking about just the facts of the case, the thing that everything fell apart instantly was when they said that his neck stopped a 30-od-6 bullet. It's so crazy that we shouldn't be required. required to have to argue it. It's so, it's, you know, from 150 feet away. It's, it's just nutty. Yeah, I think that's most, I think that, to me, that was most people's like, this is a red flag. Something's not right. Yeah. And then I would say on the broader aspects of the case,

the personality surrounding it, is the lack of transparency from the organization that's not run by his wife. Like, that's kind of, people are learning things about what, he was going through in his last days from me, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and it just seems that the organization has done a complete 180 from what he was going through. And so that would be the most alarming, I guess, social aspects of the case is what's happening.

Obviously last week, the UVU finally released the independent review. And that's Utah Valley University? Yeah, so for a year, they outsourced the Lake Forest Group to, go through the, see what went wrong that day. And so we have been told from his wife, from people that all of these things happened because UVU did this. Brian Harple went on Sean Ryan and said the rooftops weren't covered because of the chief of police and here's the text

message. And then what it exposed was that they were lying about everything. And so that, that's the reason why they've just been attacking me all week is because the UVU review, independent review, came out and everyone should read it. Like I always say, don't ever take my word for stuff. Like, I'm telling you what is in it, but you should also go independently look at it because it's shocking of, you know, they were the ones.

Turning Point USA demanded that he be outside. And the university said, we don't recommend this. You shouldn't, you know, this is not a good place. Is that true? Yeah, that's 100% true. Why did they want him to be outside? They claimed that it was because Charlie loved,

the amphitheater setup. And I don't doubt he liked the amphitheater setup, But I think when we now learned that the night before, he was worried he was going to be killed. And if you were saying, you should not do this. And they're forcing it. Before they even knew what the event was going to be, their main thing was it has to be outside in the amphitheater. And I don't think Charlie was ride or die amphitheater. I've done UVU with him.

We didn't do it in the amphitheater. Pull that up. Can you find something specific about that, Trevin? You could find it in the, yeah, the UVU independent review. And you can just search it. courtyard is what they call it and throughout the courtyard. And so when you realize that the insistence

was coming from Turning Point USA and they tried to play it the opposite, then they dedicate two pages to just debunking everything Brian Harpole said on the Sean Ryan episode. And most crucially... The UVU report does? And this report is not there. It's an independent outside group that

sits in Chicago, Illinois. So do you believe that this report is reliable or not reliable? Everyone participated from the feds, the local police, UVU, the only people I didn't participate was Turning Point USA. So they had to go off of Turning Point's public statements and like they went off of Brian Harpoles interview with Sean Ryan. And Brian Harpoll is the security, one of the 13 security members that were there that day.

That's right. I saw him on Sean Ryan and he's talking about. And so he kind of got out in front of it and said all of these things like we, he said the opposite. He said that they told us the event has to be here. Then we find out. And they put in text messages, emails, and talk, like they, there's, it's not like they're just saying, trust us, bro. Got it.

It took a year. The outdoor location insisted upon by TPSA for their event, created significant protective operation considerations. The speaking area was located in an open access campus, environments surrounded by buildings, elevated space, pedestrian routes, and multiple vantage points. UVU personnel recognized and responded to some of these concerns, including the Hall of Flag's Outdoor Pedestrian Walkway above the speaking location. However, the planning process did not include a documented line of site assessment. So they had emails, and then we learned that it was Turning Point headquarters that requested this event to happen, which was a major question that we had. Who requested this event so late in the day, a couple of weeks before when that's not how these events typically come together. And it turned out it was Turning Point headquarters, not even the student chapter didn't say, hey, can we have Charlie?

They were like, you're getting Charlie. And so call the school and see if that, you know. So Turning Point approached the school about it. about him being there? Yeah, they wanted the school. Typically, because, you know, I used to work for them, the students request, they'd say what speakers they want to have. For sure.

And so then they're making a request to headquarters. Like, I want Candace. I want Charlie. I want whoever's on the roster. And they try to make it happen for them because obviously we can't do every school. And it's kind of like a reward system. How did, you know, how well did your chat to perform? This time, uniquely, headquarters reached out to the student chapter.

And they put the guy's email in there because he's like, my friend. field director just reached out to me. They're being vague, but they want the courtyard. Is it available? Got it. So that's a big problem. But wouldn't Charlie have had something to do with that, like saying this is what I want? Like, was he part of TPS turning point headquarters?

I can just tell you my experience working there is like they, the students give all the requests. There's a meeting about what events you want to do. Sure, if Charlie would say, like, I really want to do like the big ones, the big three, like Berkeley, Stanford and UCLA. We did those because you know they're going to be like really fun. events. This, but those, they cannot come together as quickly as the point because they, you're fighting with the administration. They don't want you there as a conservative on campus.

They want to make sure things are safe. They make, you know, all of these specifications. They can only be this many people. And so, everything got to be gluten free. Yes. So people were wondering also why there was no ambulance on standby. Well, it turns out this very, this report reveals that the president was like headquarters basically filled out the form. They told then there was only going to be 600 people, and they ticked no on needing an ambulance. No way. So every single security measure.

That seems like a crazy thing to put. Yeah. That seems crazy to put that. Why would you say, would you say yes in the ambulance in general? What if there's seven people around? Dude, if I'm even swimming with two of my friends, I'll have somebody around as for safe.

If it's an option. Yeah. Right? If it's an option. And I was saying that I had never done an event where there wasn't an ambulance on standby. And I worked with them for years. So all of these things, and if they had been forthcoming,

if they had been not gaslighting us for a year, if they had been, like, we reviewed our, like, if Turning Point USA came out and was like, we made so many mistakes, you know, we actually were the ones who told them not to have an ambulance. Instead, they were, like, on a high, mighty horse, like high on our own supply.

UVU did this, the police chief, and it turns out the police chief of UVU is the hero of this. He kept being, he was the one that said, oh, we're going to need more people. Have you had one on your show? No, he hasn't spoken to anybody, But they basically tried to blame this guy for a year, and he was the only person that seemed concerned about Charlie's safety. They never, he tried to meet up with them on the day of the event.

They never did a walk through. For the September 10, TPSA event, the Director of Emergency Management and Safety assigned to UVU emergency medical services personnel. Both were EMT technicians, trained to provide pre-hospital emergency medical care before patients reach a hospital. EMTs may deliver non-invasive life-saving interventions and help stabilize patients during emergencies. Yes, elsewhere where they talk about. the forms and they checked off no. It is important to note that the EMTs could not transport patients, including Charlie Kirk to the hospital.

No ambulance was staged on site for the September 10th. Yeah, but it tells you elsewhere why there was no ambulance. And it was basically like once you book the event, then there's a form that they send you. Got it. And the person who was the student chapter head. Didn't get it done? He chose no. He did, but they said no.

So it's like you, why are you telling the public like you're some victim? of what UVU did when you guys were the authors of it and they also controlled ticketing. So UVU, when they say, oh, it was understaffed, they never, when the police officer on September 3rd asked them how many people are coming, they never told them numbers. But they knew how many?

They were the only one. They were in, headquarters was in control. But you said UVU was in charge of ticketing. No, they weren't. Oh, they weren't. Turning Point USA requested to being, they did not want to use the university's ticketing system. I mean, it's a damning report.

I mean, you have to read it. It's crazy. and it really shows you how manipulative they've been over the last year in their communications to the media saying that they want answers. Why would they not give me one reason they would not participate in this? Like in the beginning it lists everyone that participated from the feds to the local police to the EMS. I mean, these people are giving their text messages, their emails, allowing them to investigate for an entire year what went wrong.

There is no reason in my mind that they would not participate in this unless they knew that their hands weren't clean. And I saw one person trying to say, well, it's because there's a pending suit. This is not about Tyler Robinson. This is about the lead up to the event and what safety measures were taken and what went wrong and why ambulance was not on standby. This is nothing to do with them going into the forensics of Charlie Kirk being shot or what happened. TPSA preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and use its own ticketing system rather than university system. And then they blamed them for not having enough security. Those decisions placed the event in an area that was more difficult to control.

and limited UVU's availability to obtain reliable, real-time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. UVU should have retained decision-making authority over key security-related issues, including venue selection, ticketing, access, control, and other conditions necessary to support campus safety. It's unfortunate, too, the mostly, for this university, because this is probably a university that's just trying to, you know, just trying to grow itself and, you know, keep it together.

It's a place that obviously a lot of people come to that wanted to hear a speaker and be a part of something. Yeah, and they were told there was going to be 600 people. Turning Point never updated the numbers, and then there's 3,000. They wouldn't give them access to the tickets. And the police officer was asking these questions

on September 3rd. And Dan Flood said he didn't know how many people were going to go be there and that Turning Point headquarters controlled it. Who's another good source outside of yourself to talk, to discuss, like go through a lot of this stuff with, do you think? I, you mean like just independent investigators

or people, I feel like the only sources are people that are investigating this independently because it feels like we've just been, the Department of War has been protecting this narrative and lying to everybody and the journalists have been so dishonest and everything. But I really love the work of, appreciate the work of Baron Coleman and he's done fantastic work looking into different areas of the case. There are so many YouTubers that have just done fantastic work. I mean, from being on the ground, you know, pulling the war in, seeing what happened that day. And it's crazy that,

We would expect for Charlie's wife, who is at the helm of this massive organization, that she would dedicate an entire department to doing this. Right. And nothing. Wanted to accept the narrative 10 days later. It was back in the office, and everyone needs to move on. In fact, explicitly, their team members, which I haven't shown the... So TPSA doesn't have their own private investigation going on.

No. They accept the narrative fully. Do you think Tala Robinson did it? I do not believe if Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. Do I believe that he was a part of some broader thing that was going on that day? Was he around the campus? Yes. Could he potentially be guilty of the charge of hiding clothes, which people said that he was at the Dairy Queen doing that?

Absolutely concealing evidence and things of that nature. Absolutely do not. He's not the person on the rooftop. Nobody shot Charlie from the rooftop of Losey is where I'm at. And so I look into alternative theories of whether or not Charlie was hit closer by, whether or not it was on him and something an explosive went off

that makes more sense to me based on the injuries that Charlie has and the impossibility and how quickly they tried to hide the footage behind Charlie's head which would have shown the public that the bull didn't go through. Well, so bizarre that immediately

they went and took those cameras took the cards out of those cameras. Yeah, and specifically the one behind his head and that's why, because I, I feel I believe they were going to tell the public that the bullet went through because they were going to go with 30-0.6 narrative. And then along came Candice and I'm the one that revealed that it didn't. And that's why they have been have so much animosity toward me because it from that point on, they couldn't control the narrative because you were asking people to believe the impossible. You're like, pigs fly. That's it. And they can't prove that. So I to them represent the complete unraveling of the narrative that would have been fine and people would have believed. And they, they can't prove that. So I to them represent the complete unraveling of the narrative that would have been fine. And people would have believed. that the bullet went through, and now they have to say that bullets do weird things and that necks do weird things. Right, and people are saying, yeah, bullets do crazy stuff.

They'll stop by their girl's house on the way to wherever they're going. You're like, what the fuck? Like, what is even happening? What are you talking about? Like, this is a 30-odd-sixth or 100 for the yards. Like, it's not going to be, it's an into a neck of all places. Like, maybe you could get there if he got shot in the sternum or like, you know, a neck. Come on, man.

I want to read this theory. This is the one that, to me, that stood out the most. exploding microphone theory is an unfounded conspiracy claim suggesting that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was killed by an explosive device attached to his microphone rather than by a gunshot. If you looked at what there's more evidence of is that something was on Charlie and hit him and he was hunched over and hit him right in the neck and it actually created a shallow wound, but it hit his artery obviously exploded. We then presented the evidence, which was never supposed to be seen, of what the car looked like and you see just what looks like black shards

all over. And so that's... So you're saying that... Yeah, can you get me this, Trevin? Okay, thank you so much. It should be just a simple, like, it's a road R-O-D-E exploding microphone theory? But again, going back to our point about Google, like, this shouldn't be hard. It's a pretty big theory that's out there, but they're just like, this is not true. This did not happen.

That is the reason why they put that AI overview, because that's the state's narrative. Do you think that this could be the reason, not Charlie Kirk specifically, but just overall, right? that that's why AI is so important, so fast right now, because they need to be able to have a complete control over the information. It's a deleting of all old information, anything that's not written in a book, anything that's not entered into AIs won't even be able to be usable or searchable anymore. So imagine they're kind of doing what was done like in Cuba.

They'll just delete a file. Right. Once it's out, it's gone forever. So they're kind of like, and then that kind of locks you in to this whole new space of information. and once you start to believe which you're only able to search for, then that's where you'll be stuck forever. Like, once they can delete the past

and all you have is this fictional narrative of this current or semi-past, we're going to be, like, that's what they did. A never-ending present. That's what they did in Cuba. They got rid of all the books in the 40s. That's what they're doing in Gaza. Yeah, they're just getting...

That's what we're doing in the Middle East, just destroying ancient... Dang. This is getting rid of history. They want a world where they can control and we're going to live in an ever-present. isn't. That's, yeah, it's dystopian, but that's where, that's what they want. But I think it's now being stopped because people are aware of it and having the conversation of what's going on

right now. Why don't I recognize Google? Like, it used to just be able to Google that. And then the first thing that would have popped up would have been John Bray's video describing the theory. Yeah. Because that's the thing people have watched the most. And people, this is a big theory. So that should be if algorithms are fair at the top. Instead, they give you the AI model, which scrapes the mainstream media, which is controlled by the state apparatus. And they give you, this is a debunk. Brigitte McCra. This is a debunked.

Yeah. There ain't a wiener? Yeah. Ain't a wiener here. Everything's debunked. And so you're just getting the Department of Wars narrative. And so you have to know how to research. And this is why they're trying to get a handle on podcasting because it's disrupted

the state media. And, you know, I guess you could say the monopoly that the state media had on ideas. And it's because what they're saying, doesn't make sense. I mean, how many times. And in part, by the way, the reason why we got here was because they overplayed their hand during COVID. So people don't trust the mainstream media. Yeah. You don't get to do that twice. You don't get to now then do COVID and then try to Charlie, like, Charlie Kirk us too. Like you don't go COVID to Charlie and then be like, start repeating the social distancing, save lives, you know, wear a mask, save lives. And they're like 30-od's six

can do strange things. And it's like 30-a-odd-not. Not working this time. Some of the bullets will do backflips now. It's like these new like kind of like Jamaican bullets and they'll backflip on the way to the destination. Yeah. And you're like, what? It's a fucking bullet. They're like, no, it's a new Jamaican bullet man. It fucking pulls. It'll gamble on the way to the destination. And then also common sense with Tyler Roberts and stuff is like people generally don't do nothing and then do murder and jump off of building. First off, jumping off of a building. It takes some guts. Just try what it takes to jump like the first time just go without looking down seeing if you can oh yeah if i even get on the third step on my step stool i get a little bit nervous right pull it up see how far that jump was

but leave this up i want to i want to read this road a this road theory real quick do you have that road mic theory it alleges that the wireless microphone transmitter on his shirt often identified online as a road wireless pro contained a small explosive or shaped charge rather than kirk being killed by a rifle shot right and to be clear i'm not saying road did this someone tampered with their mic. And wasn't there a connection to Tennessee because they had allegedly... Yeah, so I have never covered that. There was this sort of mysterious explosion of an AES plant, which did manufacture the, like, yeah, accurate energetic systems was the name of it. The online theory of this Tennessee manufacturer connection says that if Charlie Kirk's apparent

road wireless pro unit had been weaponized, the explosive component could have originated from AES because AES makes specialized energetic products. AES is acute energetic systems, which is based in Bucksnort, Humphreys County, Tennessee. The more elaborate version specifically claimed AES had a contract involving miniaturized antipersonnel. And they did. There was a contract that was shown to make a small explosive. And so people have covered that.

And then this, it just exploded. The whole thing, what was October 10th? Right. And then that whole facility. where some people allege that the microphone that were the... Rigged microphone. The rigged microphone was, it then points to a deadly AES facility explosion.

So this place, one month after Charlie Kirk was killed, this whole place blew up as supposed evidence of a cover-up or destruction of records. Yes. And everyone died. I think there was only two people that survived that were in that particular.

I mean, there was multiple... It's Halloween. I never covered this because I always... wait until their piece of information where somebody who, I don't know, maybe a family member of somebody who worked there, but they definitely, they contracted with the army. And so it definitely was weird. It was weird. The timing of it was weird. But a lot of people have looked into this and said, what's going on here? And again, when everyone around the situation is just accepting the narrative immediately 10 days after with no questions and wanting to move on, that's not,

that obviously the public is going to sniff that out and go this is not normal. We have questions. So how do you not have questions? Right. You know, like we have questions. There's nobody to ask our questions anymore. They're just like, that's it.

It's really sad. He's gone forever. We're going to do this big memorial and we're going to be really happy and we're going to be dressed up. We're going to celebrate. And then we're going to move on and his wife has the company.

If you ask any more questions, you should be in prison. You should be locked up. You should be sued for defamation. That's not going to sit well with the public. Yeah. And so they've kind of, they sort of come undone because people are still asking questions.

Yeah. And this says right here on September 23rd AES received a $120 million firm fixed price contract from Army Contract and Command Rock Island for the procurement of T&T. Some people are saying that some of this order could have had, that some of that funding would have been part of that that funding could have been connected there somehow. The, what is, I mean, it's, it's Halloween. I'm McCrone's wiener.

Oh, I'm the ghost of Charlie Kirk. I, what is, oh, here's the guy jumping off this building. I just feel like if you're not, like, the first time, you just kind of would have some, you'd be a little more concerned, you know, like, am I going to make this jump sort of a thing? Never been to this campus before. You know what I mean? That's a pretty big. jump. It's pretty big. Was he an athletic guy though? No. No. Huh.

Thin guy, Fisher. And was he allegedly a homosexual fella or not? Yes. A lot of gay dudes can jump pretty far now. I mean, I did yes. I just say yes to that. Times are different. You got a damn, bro, you got a damn, go in. Yes. You have a, I don't know, gay dudes jump damn six feet. seven feet. What is the strongest piece of evidence that supports that Tyler Robinson did this so that everything isn't... The state's strongest piece of evidence

is the text, the alleged text messages between him and his lover. And I find that not to be compelling because his lover's testimony was pre-recorded in a way that they would never allow you know, to play out like it's only because there was this

basically hearsay clause that they could just use hearsay. They could not ask him any questions back. You know, the defense couldn't like question him at all. And so he just recorded his testimony and said, these are the messages where he fully confessed to the crime. That seems suspect to me. I don't care if you're a drug dealer selling like a gram of pot. You're not going to fully text a full confession. I did it. Here's when, why, how it was, I mean, totally crazy that you would try to get away with it,

but then also texts his full confession. And then Lance, that's who his lover is, or his boyfriend was, is granted immunity for this testimony. So that means he can say whatever he wants and he won't be liable. the courts. Why does he need use immunity? Yeah, why would you, why does that matter? But why could it matter? Let's look at it from the other side. It could matter because he could need immunity because maybe they

would, what, think that? No, the story is he just did this randomly. Lance had no idea. So if he was implicated in some way of like I gave him the nope, Lance says he slept through the whole thing. Slept through the whole thing, had no idea he was going to do it. Dude, if I know this, I have some gay family members and

pretty, or semi-gay or whatever. And they, I notice, if my, if, if one guy is out there shooting somebody or something, the other guy is going to be up and milling around, having a Celsius. No, he says he slept through everything. Even when he-clutching his chest or whatever, you know what I'm saying? When he got these messages, he was just, why did you do it? It's so staged. It's like every single answer.

Yeah. And that was also the problem. It's like, it's not like he said one thing like, hey, need to see you. Let's meet up. And then he tells a story that, like, when they met up, he told him what he did in person. Like, people don't believe this. Like, who texts every layer of a confession? Here's where I did.

Here's how I did it. Here's what I was wearing. It just feels very set up. Here's what I was wearing is what a gay dude would text to his buddy, though. Like, I was wearing this or whatever. I think he did say in the messages that he changed or whatever. Like never shooting somebody again. I changed outfits.

It's like exactly what the fact is like, hey, we got to have these are all the holes. Can you just put this in the message sort of a thing? Zoom in on. Let me see. Give us your motive, you know? It's like every single piece of it is right there. Give us your motive. Some hate just can.

be negotiated. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. You want the one who did it right? You weren't the one who did it right. I am. I'm sorry.

Oh, that's very sense and sensibility, isn't it? Like, I loved him as he loved me or whatever, you know. That's very William Bronte or whatever that guy's name is. Why run? If you're just going to text a whole confession, why run? Right, why run? What are you running from? Why are you at Dairy Queen?

You were going to get caught writing an entire novel describing where you were, how you did it, what you were wearing, how you changed the clothes. I'll never shoot someone again in a Javinci jacket or whatever. Even down to the outfit. He's discussing it. God. And so when people saw the messages, these sandals do not go with murder. I'll tell you that, Frank. I'm waiting just around the corner trying to grab my rifle.

Is that what he says? No, they grab some crazy old dude. I'm then interrogated in someone's similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly after. But most of that side of town got locked down. He's not writing all this. Of course. I mean, just common sense.

The drop point to most gay dudes is a place to buy a little bag, maybe in some poppers so you and your buddy can get wicked or whatever. It sounds like a cop is writing them. It's like, okay, what do you need now? Motive. What do you need drop point? Oh, what do we need this? So you need all coverage so the public cannot ask any questions. Why'd you do it?

Who, what, when, where? Why? How? Yeah. And then he just writes it, writes it all. And so these messages didn't register as real. This is there. This is the state's strongest piece of evidence that he did it. And then his buddy, first of all, I'll say this.

His boyfriend doesn't really give a fuck. Like, he's over here ranting. That's the other thing. I just told you that I killed someone. Right. His buddy's like, who else knows or whatever? Stay safe, he says. I wouldn't even answer because I wouldn't want to be implicated, first off.

First of all, I'm not answering. You're right. Yeah. Even if my best friend taxman has murdered somebody, I would be like, phone off. Yeah. Didn't receive it. I'd be like, oh, fuck.

Hold on a second. I got another call or something like that. Yeah. I would do something. I'm not even texting back. Yeah. Because I'm just like not texting back. I would do this one.

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that is it. Maybe two of those. There's no way I'm texting back. Common sense to me says, I don't know what this, but I'm going to find another friend talking about.

He texts me. This is crazy. Like I'm not. I'm not being like stay safe. Or I love you, Morsi, Mwa, Mwa, Mwa. Muam-wa-mo-mo-mo-mo-wa. Okay, that is, what are we talking about? What?

What? M-w-w-w-w-w-w-drop what you're doing. Look under the keyboard, and they said he hand-wrote a confession, but then he burned it or somebody burned it. Drop what you were doing, look under my keyboard or whatever. And that could be a euphemism, too. And then it's a full letter that he allegedly wrote and said, I did this. But then he burned it, but then he also then wrote it in a text. So why write the letter?

I mean, the whole thing just doesn't make any sense. Right. Why did, have you had Lance on the boyfriend? Lance is protected by the feds immediately. Had federal protection. Witness protection. But you can't find him, do you think? No.

I mean, people know where he is. They know that he's in Texas. But he's just, I think he's the person who was much more involved in this. Oh, you think so? So you think Lance got to Tyler early and somehow he even was able to help him get in a position to be set up to where he is. Yes, because he had access to all this stuff, their roommates. So you could get his stuff, drop it wherever. Is there a picture of Lance anywhere?

Yeah. Dude, that's crazy, Candace. What if that's it? I do. That's my sense is that Lantus, and I think generally he's much more involved. I think he's blackmailed. He was, you know, troubled kid.

He's the kind of the personality you're looking for. Like troubled kid and like into the furry community, which is like you create an avatar of yourself. So there's some dissociative personality. Definitely got in a lot of trouble. Was passed around from his family members, volatile, you know, was addicted to drugs. was into weird internet stuff.

Like he's, if I'm CSI, this is the person, the profile of the individual that we'd be looking for. And, you know, there's a whole blackmail system. So if you're on doing weird stuff on the internet. That's him?

Yes. That's Lance? I mean, what is even fucking going on? And what is he wearing that car? It's like a, that's a furry thing? They just said these

ever been on airplanes a lot. This is unbelievable, dude. Mm-hmm. What is, can we get any other pictures in it? Do we even know his last name? That's him in the court hearing, like the pre-recorded testimony, which they, the, the defense wasn't allowed to ask him any questions because it was a preliminary hearing, so. This looks like a show.

It feels like a show. What are the side effects of, oh, the Lance Twigs? So that's him too. And now he's out, now he's on Survivor? No. What? Yeah, I think that's just an old picture of him. Which

Servat Which team was he on? Shooter's twank or whatever? Was he team shooters twank? What is he even fucking happening? It's weird. It's Halloween. It's all very weird.

So it's Halloween. So it's all just attack Candace for not accepting, you know, ruining the narrative, I guess is what it was supposed to. I ruined the narrative. So by like, by sharing, like, bringing this narrative to light, right? That like people think that something else happened. do believe that people think something else happened, right? Because it seems so, usually if there's a shooter of somebody that's a big thing, the court case is a huge thing where you're seeing all of it and

you're like, they're like trying to get like information from the guy and everything. And it doesn't, none of that's even happening. It's almost like it's just disappeared completely. Well, it's the actual hearing has to now has to start. So they had the preliminary hearing, which basically is just probative. And they say, well, we have enough evidence to move it forward. And so now the trial, the trial. of Tyler Robinson will begin. Will you be able to go to the trial? I'm not going there. I'm not good.

There's no chance I'm going to Utah. I will follow it. I will watch it live. I will do what I do. Take notes like I did with the preliminary hearing. You'd look nice in there. I think there's some weird stuff. You think it's dark arts?

Happening in Utah. Oh yeah, dude. I'll tell you there is because I took an electric bike. My brother lives there and I e-biked about two miles from his house and saw some stuff. But what's like the two-minute version of like, What do you think happened to Charlie Kerr? I think Charlie was taken out by the deep state, and it was because of his shifting views on Israel. You do?

Yeah, that's my opinion. And do you think his, like, Turning Point USA people knew that? I think it's hard, given everything that we now know a year on, and the way, like, again, their lack of engagement and also blatant lies, like Brian Harpole told, it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where no one in that organization knew. or peripheral to the organization, you know. It's hard for me to imagine that. You'd have to have an insider kind of. I think so. Because otherwise, why not be instantly forthcoming?

I mean, again, I'm speaking to common sense here, but yeah, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide. So when people, if you said, Candace, what were you doing on September 10th? Here's my whole phone. I was sitting at the table with the team. We were working on a show. Savannah came downstairs and told us that Charlie had been shot.

And then we stopped every, you know, so I can't imagine a scenario where they try to go, well, because the hearings, you know, the hearing's going on. That's why, and people can't be forthcoming. What would the truth? How could that impact the hearing negatively? Either this person did or we didn't, right? So if you have Candace Owens' text messages from that day at that time, and I say, well, I'm not giving them to you because it could, you know, potentially put the case at risk,

that doesn't make any sense. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. How could it put it at risk? It's going to introduce a fact. That means that Tyler Robinson's innocent. So for me, everything that he was going through, the way they even lied about that, the Israel shift, and I just feel like people only lie when they have something to hide. I do not think everybody around him has their hands clean.

And I think, again, that's largely I've been vindicated on that opinion with just the UVU independent review. Brian Harple What's up, man? Why did he lie, do you think? If he lied. I don't know. Why is he suing me? Is he suing you?

Yeah. And he's saying that you fabric, that just that... I mean, there's a bunch of claims, but among it, he stated that I said that I found his interview with Sean Ryan to be unconvincing and that he lied. Well, now you have a whole independent review that says you lied. You have the UVU police chief that says you lied, that you misrepresented the text message that you weren't even involved in the text message that you presented. So what are we supposed to think?

He got confused. I wonder why he would. If he did that, why would he do that? I wonder. Why would you go on Sean Ryan, one of the biggest podcasts in the world and think that you're not eventually going to get exposed for misrepresenting things? Did Sean think that he lied? Or did Sean think he seemed like a believable guy?

I think Sean just thought this is a big case that he wants to talk about it. And he just sat there and let him talk. And I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did because. But it seems wild. If you didn't want to say, why even go say anything? I don't know. You know what I'm saying?

Like if you don't believe what you're saying, but maybe UVU's report is wrong. Do you think it could be? I think there's something. No, I don't think that report could be wrong. Because again, it was an investigation. So they described in the beginning what they did, how many hours went into this, sitting down,

interviewing, reviewing the messages. Who was the outside group that did it? Lake Forest Group. We got to get you out of here soon. Lake Forest Group? Mm-hmm. Illinois. Lake Forest Group law firm

Brownstein, Hyatt, Farrber, and Shrek. Oh, donkey. Conducted by a consortium of independent experts including the Lake Forest Group and then that law firm as well. Who owns Lake Forest Group, I wonder.

Just curious to see who they are. I think it's like Bain Capital, actually, or something. Bain. Not totally positive, though. I mean, everything, fucking Bain Capital is doing the Charlotties Curb. It's all this crazy thing.

Michael Verden. Verden. You never know. I mean, it's, it's all interesting. Oh, 21 years is a U.S. Secret Special Service agent. Wonder if he'd be an interesting guest to talk about that stuff with. So it's, yeah, and so, like, again,

why wouldn't they participate in this review? These are the questions that people have. Why wouldn't Turning Point USA? Yeah. Yeah. You've nothing to hide. I'd just be like, look, and I would have, instantly gotten in front of it and been here's some things that we did wrong.

There's a level of arrogance at the organization too that I think is making people sick. Do you think that they're happy that Charlie's out of, like, that's a crazy question to say. Do you? Do they look happy at the memorial? Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Some of these are fair. Some of what they've done has been kind of crazy, you would say?

Absolutely. I mean, they look happy in some of these instances. Yeah. They seem mad now because I feel like the public has turned on them. But like right after the assassination, they were very bizarrely happy. Do they still have a huge following?

I was confused. Like, how big is the following that it's like? No, it's collapsed. Oh, it has? Because people... Or curious what's going on. It seems odd. People know when something's not authentic.

And I think they are blaming me for that. And it's like, no, guys, we asked you really basic questions. The whole world was on your side, myself included. No one could have imagined a scenario where this organization would collapse within a year.

And it's because, of their own arrogance. And now they think that they, you know, we're friends with Cash Patel. We're friends with Harmeet Dillon and the president. And that should be enough. You know, we're with the president now. It's obviously not enough.

You need to be forthcoming with information. You need to be, how about exercising some humility? Saying what you did wrong off the bat would have gone a long way. And they're not even speaking about it at all. They don't care. They're just like, we've got power.

We are the state now. That's the vibe, right? From TPSA? Mm-hmm. It's... Call my friend Vance if you have a question, you know, if you have a question. And then... J.D. Vance, you mean?

Shame on you guys for not a believing error because emotions. Like, we're just kind of getting, like, the wagging finger all the time as opposed to answers. That makes sense. Well, you met up with her right after it happened, didn't you? Not right after, but about four months later. Sorry. And that's when I changed my perspective, like, my perspective on talking about her and going after her, just because she was then doing the public rounds and she was telling lies.

Like she initially said, or you could say she didn't know, but she said, I have his phone. And he was not worried the night before. And now that story has been debunked. And she hasn't come out to clarify or apologize. Exorcismulity. Yeah, you know, actually, Candace was right that the night before he was texting people concerns. That's the arrogance that I think makes people sick is that you send out all of these bots and people to attack me and to attack my family. to create narrative after narrative about George and Candace

because you don't want to tell the truth. Then the truth comes out, and your response to it is to attack us again for being right. That's not going to, it's not voting well for them, but they're not trying anything different. Are they suing you or no? No, turning point you, not yet. I mean...

Are you in any lawsuits against other people? No, I don't. I just tell the truth. I'm not suing anybody. You know? Law. is not like thinking I'm going to crush you, I'm going to bankrupt you. Tell the truth. The truth is enough, man. Just Candace said this. Okay, actually, here's reality. That should,

that should be enough. But when you don't have an answer to the truth, that's the route you go. I'll bankrupt you. I'll destroy you. I have lawyers in high places. I have the president on my side. I can get him to tweet that you're the most vile person of the year. That's the mentality. It's capital. Yeah, it's like it's kind of just a dark side of somebody having so much capital that could just keep soon. You keep making you go to court things. Yeah. What do you think? So like with Charlie Kirkland specifically, there's so much information around it. You've done so much research.

Is there any of it, is there any way that the research helps affect anything in the actual case? Or do you think this is just for public knowledge, kind of? I think for sure. Some of the things that we brought forward that call into question, the timeline, was he in Pangewich. But like, will his defense attorneys use any of this stuff?

Now they have to start looking at all that stuff. So before it was too early for them to use it because this is the prosecution. Oh, got it. And they're basically saying to the court systems, we have enough probative evidence that this case should move forward. And you can do that with just hearsay. Now you're moving to the trial. So their initial job of the defense is to just get as many charges dropped. And you're basically just saying to the court at that time, the state should drop this because

of existing laws on the books. They didn't fulfill this. They didn't fulfill that. They did this wrongly, whatever. They're not making an argument. They're not actually defending Tyler Robinson yet. Now that the state said, no, there's enough evidence to at least move it forward. Now they have to go out, do the research and issue a defense of Tyler Robinson.

And I would strongly suspect that a lot of the things that we have presented and discovered will be used or come out naturally, of course, in the course of things. That's their job. I mean, if you're a good defense attorney, your job isn't to just, like, follow people's ideas. I mean, I don't know if they're going to explore alternative theories, but they're definitely going to have to get into the timeline where he actually was. If there were other people that were involved, other people that could have been, is this Tyler Robinson on camera or is this somebody else? Right. So we'll see a lot of that.

Well, it's a weird place. Existence. Real quick, before you go, Peter Thiel's speaking in town, you know this, did you hear about this? Yes, he's been doing some weird stuff. Yeah, what about the anti-crash? He's obsessed.

Did you think about, because part of me was like, let me go see what this is, just to even see what's going on. But then I was like, I don't know if I even want to be around that energy. Part of me also was like, let me see if he would podcast,

just to talk, like, say, hey, everybody thinks you're like the scariest or like, or I don't know. It's like, do you, if you think so, somebody is like devious, do you talk to them to ask them what's going on? Like, what is your school of thought on that? I feel like, yeah, I think you should just ask him if he's the Antichrist. Peter Thiel draws hundreds downtown for Antichrist's. He's been, he's been on this for years,

just so you know. Hundreds is... Going across the world. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, he's obsessed with the Antichrist. A big part of why I'm doing this series is because I believe it is dangerous to focus on just one risk. There's one existential risk that. that nobody seems to want to discuss, which I would like to add to the list if we're going to enumerate existential risks, and that is the risk of a totalitarian one-world government. But why are you saying you're helping us talk about the risks,

if it seems like some of the stuff he's allegedly attached to would be the stuff leading us towards that? That's the point. There's a conflict of interest here, and that would be a great reason why you should interview him and ask him. And even them, Teal's host, a Masonic Lodge open the evening by distancing itself from the content of its talks. It's like, it's just a lot happening.

I saw it and I was going, what on earth? Again, we're at that inflection point. We just are just what scope. Like, it's too much. Well, and look what it says here. Hunt described Nashville, Davis Hunt, a conservative activist of Zimbledger, described Nashville as one of the last remaining regions in the Western world

with authentic Christian beliefs where it still thrives. Huh. When's that baby? When's that baby popping? Hopefully today. You're lying. I don't know. You don't get to like to have the baby doesn't tell you.

Shorty cook, man. You got to get shorty to cook fast. Getting one of those red light therapy things. You think that'll make the baby come out? Yeah, are you kidding? Have you had a baby using red light therapy? No, but imagine that thing, dude, that thing is going to have nice skin for 2,000 years. Do you use it?

I don't use it, but I'm thinking about getting one. Okay, I don't have one. I've never done the red light thing. I know that's like taking off, but. But you already, you guys are. Are you talking about like, wait, which red light? You're talking about when people just put on their face? Or you're talking about the full thing?

They have a whole bed. They do have the face one. Yeah, I've never done the bed one. I thought that you were talking about. The bed one seems kind of cool. I mean, or yeah, or even just one of them. A lot of people are just like putting it. There's even leggings now that allegedly have it.

There's like all kind of bullshit. I mean, look at this lady. What pocket of the internet? Leggings, red light therapy. Those red light leggings or whatever? Never heard of it. It's supposed to keep your knees from sagging or whatever. I'm like, who the fuck's knees are sagging and who gives a shit?

Yeah. Just sit down. If you bend your leg, your knee doesn't sag. But yeah, people are just bonkers. But yeah, I just didn't know, are y'all using any, like, does, well, George, massage your stomach at night? Are you guys doing anything to try to get the baby out? Is there any, like, kind of like. They just come whenever they're ready, you know?

It's something you can really, it's like, it's ready or it's not. It's like putting a chicken in the oven. It's either cooked or it's not. Yeah. You've got to get cooked. Do you feel close? And I have, I feel like I have an oven that runs a little cold. Like some women always have a kid's like 36 weeks

I'm like man your oven runs hot She's so lucky Mine's like a little bit Like right on time or like a little cold And I'm just not okay with that right now So I'm hoping that I'm doing whatever What I'm doing is I'm doing your podcast And then I'm gonna go do Tim Dillon's podcast

And then I'll be expecting results Tim Dillon is the bad There's nobody like right there's nobody More entertaining than him right now He's just so funny He gets away with it Yeah, he's just exceptional. Mm-hmm.

He really is. And he does it. He kind of does it all perfectly. Will this be your last baby? You don't know. I don't know. I'm Catholic. I say it's the last baby.

But, you know. Catholics are crazy. And they're cute. That's what's weird. Yeah. Right? I feel like if you just had some kids that were like not adorable and funny, then you'd be like, oh, okay, let's just.

Yeah, it's not what's in it for me? Like, yeah. I agree. Any unique experiences while you've been pregnant? You get weird dreams, you get pregnancy dreams, and they are on point. Like, you get visions when you're pregnant. I like that. Yeah, women will tell you, if my sister's pregnant and she says she had a dream about something,

I'm like, uh-oh, hopefully it's a good one, bad one. You definitely dream a lot more. And that's because there's obviously some association between dreaming and hormones and whatever, but that is interesting. You start to, like, I'm at the point now where I can almost see the future, you know? get some weird dreams. I had a weird dream last night. I can't remember what it was.

It'll come to me. It was a very strange dream. Can you smell anything? I used to know this lady because when she was pregnant she could smell copper. She smelled copper real strong. A lot of women have like super strength.

No, unfortunately for me. That doesn't never happens. But you will get a whiff of something and be super nauseous, that's for sure. But, yeah. Can you sleep fully? Do you have to sleep on your stomach? No, that's exactly what you shouldn't do.

That's exactly what you. you shouldn't do. It's the exact opposite of what you get to, no. You can't. Because you can't, can you sleep on a ball? No. Can you sleep on a basketball, Theo? No, I don't know, but I don't know what you guys are doing. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to think of what gets it to come out fast. I think about how you would look if you slept, like, you're just like a boo-sou ball of a person. But, hey, I'll tell you that thing will be out in a half hour. It'll be out. I'll tell you that for free. You'll be out. Exactly. Is there any smell of something? Like, can you smell a certain thing that would help?

Like, I'm just wondering if there's, like, some old wives. Hells, have you looked at some of that, probably? Of what? Of, like, how to get that. Oh, you can? Oh, you can? Yeah, I did it for Louise. No.

No, she evicted her. She was sleeping the whole time. She wasn't there for one appointment. Oh, yeah. And she was, it was Tennessee, July. She was overdue by a week. I said goodbye, girl. Bye.

No, I walked outside one day, and it was, like, the heat was violent. You know how it gets down here. And what do you just rub it on your belly? No, you just take it. So I took more than they even, they suggested one tablespoon. I think I did a fourth a cup. Yeah. She flew out.

It was my best birth. Oh, I like that. I told my doctor I was doing it. I was like, because he knows I'm like crunchy in those ways. And so I don't, like, do it. Come take our medicine. Our potosin. We'll do it.

Like, no. Best birth, one push out. Slip and slide. Castor oil. Oh. Mm-hmm. God, I love that. Yeah.

She was out. So she just got evicted. I tell her time. I'm like, That's so funny. I promise with her I would still be pregnant today. That's how she gets down. So she was only because I got evicted.

Happy early Halloween. Thank you. And if anybody does do a Candace costume, please tag us so we can look it up faster. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. I don't know what you're going to do. I feel like I'm so boring. But, yeah, I mean, I would be pregnant.

That's a good point. Be pregnant. Be black. Yeah. Do a darkish wig or see if you get a hold of some darker skin. Go on to farmers black. Dark and farming. Darkened farmers.

Dark and farming. Dark and farming. Or as mahogany soil goddesses, I think it was another one. I got to look it up. Yeah. Thanks for hanging out, Candace. I appreciate you. You are so welcome.

And give a hug to George for me. And I'll see you soon. See you soon. Cornerstone I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bone Spotify Ads Manager

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