This Past Weekend - A Gun Man | This Past Weekend #273

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Theo learned a lot about guns and gunnery through a local arms retailer. Niko Furlan talks about the astounding number of new weapons purchased during this pandemic in California. Hand to hand lobster fishing is also discussed.   Niko Furlan https://instagram.com/niko_the_amigo  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   New Merch https://theovonstore.com    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode is brought to you by…   Manscaped Visit https://manscaped.com and use promo code THEO for 20% off plus free shipping   Blue Chew Visit https://bluechew.com and use promo code THEO to try your first shipment free with just $5 shipping   Shipstation Try free for 60 days by visiting https://Shipstation.com and use promo code THEO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hit the Hotline  [phone]   Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Find Theo   Website: https://theovon.com  Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend  Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw   -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Producer Nick https://instagram.com/realnickdavisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today's episode is brought to you by Gray Block Pizza. Gray Block Pizza, you know you want pizza, right? Yeah, so why have anything other than Gray Block? Imagine having it in your mouth, boy. Yeah. 1811 Pico Boulevard on the way to the beach. Gray Block Pizza, get that hitter. Today's guest is a man that I met at the gun store

and I went in there recently. I'm gonna be very honest with you and I didn't know what I was doing, but I did know that I wanted to get a gun. And this man had so much information and just knew so much in that, you know, in that realm, in the bulletry. And he's also a gunsmith.

He's an outdoorsman and he is a bona fide gun man. My new friend, Niko Furlon. Did you kill me off fucking drinking your blood, bro? I'm just speaking of drinking my blood. So Niko, yeah, I appreciate you coming in today, man. And you know, because you sold me two guns recently. I did, yeah. You know, and so yeah, that's,

and I was just thinking about whenever I was at the gun store, and what gun store do you work at? Turner's Outdoorsman, we're on Hawthorne Boulevard, North Torrance. And they got everything in there. Everything, we got handguns, revolvers, rifles, shotguns for all your needs. Everything you need.

And I noticed, yeah, they have everything if you want to be a murderer, if you want to be a fisherman, if you want to, they have the full spectrum. You know, you can go out like North Hollywood, you know, the North Hollywood shoot out, you can do just like that. You can shoot deer, you know what I mean?

You can put your dog down, whatever you're into. Yeah, you guys can do all of that. Yeah, we had a guy by us, actually, that when I was growing up, he was kind of the guy if he had to put your dog down. Really? Yeah. You just call him up?

Oh, you would call him or you just go not? Yeah, would you expect compensation for that or he would just do it? No, he would just do it. He just liked it, yeah. Well, yeah, he was just the kind of guy he had done it enough. I think a lot of people are scared, you know,

I don't want to put my dog down, I don't know how to do it. What if I shoot him in the wrong place? You know, what if I fucking, or what if some people would try to strangle their dog or something like, oh, I can't get him to go down? My brother put our dog down. Really? Yeah, he didn't even mean to, but he did it.

On accident? Kind of. My dog was sick, I had a little chihuahua, you know? Oh, yeah. And he was old and getting sick. I'm sure his people put that fucking thing down. Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, you can drop a biscuit on the floor, he'll hit him in the head, he's done, dude.

Like Reginald Denny, man, back of the head, just gone. Just like that, yeah, but no, he was like, he was sick, you know, and he's a little chihuahua, so he wants to sleep in the bed, he goes under the covers, you know? I think he was too weak and he's sleeping with my brother in his bed. I don't think he could get out,

I think he suffocated, man. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, my brother was not happy. Yeah, it almost reminds me of that movie, um, I'm trying to think of that movie, Twins, maybe you've seen that movie? The Hot Man. It was before your time, I think.

Can you bring up that? Can you bring up something? Twins? All right. Yeah, um, it was a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger though, but I think so, who was in it? Oh, maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger. Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I think when I was born, he was a governor. Yeah, he was, before that he was sleeping with his brother, yeah, there they are. Damn, man. But yeah, dude, you sleep with your brother, bruh, so anything could die, you know? It's a fucking risky game, man. Oh yeah, well, he's like a, you know,

he's a hairy Italian guy, you know? There's death under there. Yeah. It's ghost, man. One of the reasons I wanted to talk to you was just because of, like, I ended up buying some guns, you know? Yeah, you sure did.

And I didn't know if I even wanted any guns, but once the pandemic hit, once the COVID came in, I was like, I think I need to get some guns. Yeah. And so I came over there to you guys and yeah, just the whole experience, like what has the experience been for you, like working at a gun store?

What has it been like since this pandemic hit? Well, I mean, it's completely unprecedented. What's going on? I worked there with a lot of guys, I've been working in the firearms industry for a long time, real experienced guys, you know? And they've been selling guns for longer than I've been alive. Oh, dang, man.

And they tell me the same thing, man. They tell me it's unprecedented. The month of March had more background checks done than any other month in the history of the United States. March of 2020. When the first kind of panic started going on, we had over nearly 200 people outside the store waiting to get in before we open.

Four to five hour lines just for service because we were just full of people. And if you're around LA, you know there's not that many gun stores, there's a few, a handful just around, especially West LA. And where we are, kind of like in the epicenter of a bunch of different neighborhoods.

So we're by Torrance, Manhattan Beach, Hawthorne, you know, on the way to Gardena. So we're kind of like in that, and right in the middle of all that. Right, so kind of white getting Mexican-y. Oh, I'm gonna be honest, man, it's mostly Latino. Yeah. Mostly, or clientele is mostly Latino,

but you get, I mean, I was surprised when I started working there. The diversity of people purchasing firearms, it's all types. And so when you say like, like how soon after kind of the pandemic hit, or after like, did you notice there was a certain thing that brought people in, it's like, oh, now we gotta go get the guns.

Like now. 100%. The vast majority of people in there buying guns as of recent have been brand new gun buyers. Never, never bought a gun in their life, never even expected to buy guns, that's for a lot of them. And it was the first time,

and I was talking to a lot of my coworkers, it was the first time that people really started talking about openly in the store, buying these guns and using them in the defense of their property from people willing to take it from them. Wow. A lot of people were like, oh, hey, I want, I want to get a tactical shotgun.

And it's like, oh, if you ever ask them, oh, what do you plan on doing with it? Oh, you know, I'll just shoot out the range. I like it. And, you know, it's a good thing for home defense. Okay, granted. That was common. But now it's like, oh, I need to get this

because what if someone breaks in and they're trying to take my stuff and they're just going off about it. They're talking about, you know, they kind of reminded them of the rights in LA 92. Some of the old timers talking about the watch riots back in, I believe the 70s. Yeah.

Yeah, especially living in this area, that's another thing I thought about. I was like, wow, well, I live in an area that has a history of unrest, you know, of civil unrest, if things get, you know, if things get squirreled out really. So, because that's, because it's funny because I was even thinking to myself, like,

why am I buying a gun? You know, what am I? And I think I'd always kind of wanted to get a gun, but I'd never acted on it. And then suddenly it was like, okay, I'm going to get this gun. Yeah. And I think it was just, yeah,

I want to be able to take care of myself. I want to be able to, like if things get real heated, you know, when somebody's coming over, somebody's stealing diapers from me or stealing water or stealing whatever, you know, like. They're coming for that TP, brother. They want that. Yeah, anything.

They're coming for your colored shirt. Yeah. People walking. I guess it's funny because I think my first instinct would be if somebody like really needed help would be to help them. But then if somebody's coming in with the intent not looking for help.

Right. They're there for your stuff. They're there for your life, man. Yeah. Brother, have you gotten some wild questions from people during this time? Oh my God. You have no idea, man.

All types. I mean, you get all types of weirdos in there, man. I remember one dude was coming in. He was like an older white guy. And he was coming in. He was like, I'm looking for 45-70 lever action rifle. In 45-70s, it used to be the standard military cartridge for the US pretty much right after the Civil War.

Mm-hmm. Just pretty much until right before World War I. And it's a very powerful, large, big bore cartridge they used it for buffalo hunting, stuff like that. It's just a very powerful cartridge. And the gentleman I was talking to was like, oh yeah, why are you looking for something like that? And he was like, well, I read that this

is a good gun for a riot. I was like, what does that mean? Like, a good gun for a riot? Like, what are you going to do with it during a riot? And he's just like, oh, you know, it's a heavy bullet. So it'll just sail through crowds. I was like, god damn, all right, like, it's a good riot cartridge.

It's a way to get to the front of the line. Yeah, hell yeah, man. And all types. I mean, a lot of people looking for really cheap guns. I need something under $200. It was like, dude, I'm going to sell you a knife, man. I can't get, like, there's not too many guns. You're going to sell you a fast knife.

You can throw it, man. There's your range. But you got a lot of new users in for the first time. And so what's the gun that you usually recommend for those types of people? First, I got to ask them, are you looking for a rifle? Are you looking for a shotgun? Are you looking for a handgun?

Most people can at least answer that question. Like, what out of those three major categories are you looking for? And if they're looking for a handgun, I recommend just most polymer frame, striker-fired pistols, really easy to use, like a Glock, for an example, Springfield XDs, because we're limited on what we can get here in California.

Smith & Wesson Shields, Smith & Wesson SD-9s, that kind of thing. Those guns are really popular for new gun buyers, because they're really, really simple to use, and they're just effective. They just do the job. And when you say that, so California has, like, different laws, like, they have different,

we can't get certain types of guns here, you mean? Or we can't. Oh, yeah. Well, OK. Well, long guns, rifles and shotguns, you're not really limited on the exact specific guns you can get. They have to be California compliant, which

means they have to have a list of features that are not on the gun. It's really stupid and convoluted. And then for handguns, there's something called the California handgun roster, where there's an actual list of designated models that you can buy here in California. What that pretty much entails, as far as I understand it,

is that they pretty much need to pay a lot of money and pass all these safety requirements to get on the roster. OK. And then for semi-automatic handguns, like one of the guns that you purchase, a semi-automatic handgun, they pretty much need to be made after the year 2013.

Not the actual make, but the design of the gun needs to be from 2013 or before that. The reason for that is the California, pretty much, I believe it was the Department of Justice, they dictated that if you're going to bring a new gun on the roster, a new semi-automatic handgun on the roster, it needs to have microstamping technology.

OK, I believe those are the words they used. OK. Microstamping technology would entail where if you fired the bullet, it would leave an imprint on the bullet that would be able to track the gun specifically to that serial number. Right. OK.

That technology does not exist. Well, you see this, I feel like you see a lot of times on crime shows and stuff where people use a bullet and you can trace it back to a gun. Yeah. What that would pretty much entail is based on the way the firing pin hits the primer of the cartridge, they can tell what kind of gun it is.

Was it a revolver? And maybe they could even tell what specific actual fire arm it is, oh, that was a, I'm basing it on the extraction pattern as well. Oh, that was a Glock 17, for an example. Or not even a 17. They can just say, oh, it's a Glock 9 millimeter. OK, that's just one thing they can tell from it.

But with microstamping technology, they pretty much are saying that they can track using the imprint from the firing pin, they can track the actual gun's serial number directly to you, which on CSI, it's a fantasy. That's not true. Look that up, do you mind, Nick? Microstamping is a process in which a gun imprints

a unique microscopic code onto the ammunition it fires. The goal is to enable detectives to collect shell casings at a crime scene, enter the code in a database, and quickly track the fire arm to its owner. The problem is the technology is unreliable and expensive. Each time the gun is fired, it wears slightly leaving a microstamp unreadable after a short period of normal use. Almost like a regular stamp.

If you run out of, I guess the ability maybe to like one of those ink pads or something, then you're done, huh? So I guess they're trying to make, so this seemed like an early, this seems like a plan that would make great sense, but they just do not have the technology for it yet. Right, and nor is it practical in the sense of it actually mitigating crime.

Where, yeah, I mean, if you do have microstamping technology, you could tell which firearm specifically it was, right? However, there is certain requirements that consider something a firearm in the United States, okay, and it's typically the frame, also the receiver of a gun, right? So if you have a Glock pistol, which is a very standard pistol,

just the plastic frame is the only part on the gun that actually has a serial number. Everything else is just a metal part. You can order it all online. So I can buy a Glock, buy a firing pin online for $10, replace the firing pin, and it would have a different microstamp. I see what you're saying.

It's very easy to get rid of something, and once it stops someone from just grounding it off, it would do nothing. So this is something that theoretically would be great, but in reality it's not really very practical. Exactly, and this is a law now that you have to have this? Yeah, so new handguns from manufacturers

to be sold in California, semi-automatic handguns, need to have microstamping technology for them to be approved on the roster. Okay, and the one that I bought is that. Is a gun that does not have microstamping technology because it was being made and sold in California before the year of 2013? Oh, I see, so it was grandfathered and kind of.

Kind of, I mean, the gun that you have is brand new. No one used it or anything. It's just that that specific model was allowed because they were making and selling that model to California. They were selling that model here in California before the year of 2013. So of the new, like, gone owners that you're seeing, like people that have come to this shop recently,

who are they? Like, what do they look like? What are they? I mean, you said it was a lot of Latinos out there. And is it a lot of gangsters? Is it a lot of females? What is it? You know, abuelos?

At our, oh, all types, man. At our shop, we get a lot of gangsters. Gangsters of all kinds. I mean, I've seen dudes that are borderline, like white nationalists, shoulder, yeah, straight up, like straight up, shoulders. They got all excited. Yeah.

Calm down, man. Sorry. Just straight, like just black gangsters, like bloods, creeps, that kind of stuff. And yeah, they don't, I mean, a lot of times they don't even hide it. Like I got. And what about Jews?

Do you see any Jews in there? A few, not too many. I feel like, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like. There's a lot of Jewish supremacists now. Like people that are devout Judaism only type of shit. Yeah, Zionists, you know? Yeah, right.

I feel like they have their own way of getting guns. We sell Jewish guns. We got some like stuff from Israel there, which is kind of cool. Wow. Yeah. I mean, Israel makes a lot of weapons, man. Yeah.

I mean, like. It's a weapon belt over there. Hell yeah, hell yeah. You got to. Technology and weapons, man. Yeah. We'll be surrounded by their enemies, you know? Yeah, it's a hot area.

It's a good area to have a weapon. Yeah, hell yeah. So, go ahead, you're seeing a lot of Latinos. You're seeing a lot of gang, is it a lot of gang bangers? It is a lot of step moms and all who's coming in. Not a lot. You get that occasionally. It's just a lot of just really random people, man.

Whether it's like people my age, you know, just first time gun buyers, 21 years old, single women. It's women with kids. And are they expressing fears about the pandemic? Like about the, okay. 100%. They're there telling us, like, I don't know what to get. I don't know anything about guns.

I don't even really want to know anything about guns. I just want to get one. That was me, really. Yeah. Kind of, I mean, I knew I wanted a handgun. I looked through some guns and kind of picked out the one that I wanted. Exactly.

But I don't think you were there entirely out of fear, man. A lot of people were there really just like looking around and they just kind of were freaking me out, to be honest with you, man. And is there an element where you have to like, if somebody's too, you determine that they have too much fear, is that, do you still have to sell them a gun? I wouldn't say I have to, but...

Because that's a scary person to sell a gun to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I'm coming from a place of like, just complete fear, then I could make some poor choices, you know? 100%. You don't want to fucking shoot a guy and he just had the mail.

Yeah, no, for sure. But that's where it gets tricky, because you also don't want to deprave someone of their second amendment right. Especially when there's a limited amount of gun stores and it's hard for them to get in. I mean, a lot of people were waiting for five hours for service.

Yeah. And they want to get a gun. And despite the reasons, I mean, out of fear, that's not necessarily a reason where I can take away their constitutional right. That's what I see. Right, so yeah, so there's no, so there's nothing in it like where you make any sort

of like psychological mental health evaluation of them. We have the freedom to. Okay. We can. And like another thing, like by requirement, if you smell like marijuana, I can't serve you. Wow. Literally, and I've had a toll.

I mean, man, I have some stories of these gangsters that come in all the time, man. Or just anyone, maybe people that smell like weed, but just like, usually people that walk into a gun. Some real fucking cholos. I know you're talking about. Dude, they sit in their infinity, you know, and they're smoking a backwood.

And they're like, they're in the parking lot, and they're like, all right, now let's go buy guns. Now we're talking Persian. Now we're talking Persian. Yeah? Yeah, and what the fuck? And do they, a lot of times, they can even be able to get it day of?

Oh, the most people, not most, but a lot of people were getting upset at us because they were like, it's a 10 day waiting period in California. So if you start the background check that day, right, then 10 days from now, you can come pick it up. Right, right, that's what I'm going through right now. Exactly.

It's extended too, it just got, as of recent, they've been extended a little bit. The DOJ pretty much sent out a notification to us that they're completely backed up on background checks going through. So even after the 10 day waiting period, the background check might not have cleared yet. So we've had, I mean, this weekend,

probably over 40 people come pick up their guns, and we had to deny them that access to pick up their firearm, even if it was after their 10 day waiting period, just due to the fact that they could not, the DOJ has not cleared their background check yet. Yeah. The DOJ pending, and I checked it for you,

because your pickup day was yesterday. Yeah. You're going through the same thing. If you came in yesterday to get your firearms, which would have been after the 10 day waiting period, you would not have been able to. And now has that ever happened in your line, like in your period, time of work?

No one I talked to there has ever seen that, ever. And so what do you attribute that to? Just the sheer amount of people that are buying guns in the United States and California. So maybe it's good, at least it's like, okay, we have to run some sort of a background check. We're not just filtering all of these people through. Yeah, yeah, I mean, especially in California,

I mean, that background check process is California, and there's other states to do backgrounds. There's a national background check system, right? When you fill out paperwork, and that's what you did, right? And that national background check system doesn't necessarily mean a 10 day waiting period. There's a lot of other states where you can buy a day of and take it home.

Really? Yeah, California is one of the only, not one of the only, but there's a few states that have a waiting period. A day of you can buy? Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, Arizona, Utah, you go buy a day of, fill out the paperwork, take it home.

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But that seems wild, because if you, like, do you prefer that there's a waiting period? It seemed like there definitely should be a, because what if I'm just pissed about something? What if I am fucking high? What if I'm coked up? What if I'm this or that, you know? I'm all on DMT and I want to go fucking, you know.

I want to go deep and shoot the devil, you know? Does California have one of the longest ones? It's 10 day, one of the longest ones. I believe 10 day is the longest one. Yeah, I believe we do have the longest one. Not 100% on that, but I'm 99% sure. Yeah, and it's just a pretty, obviously it's a, California's a pretty liberal state, you know?

I mean, certainly Los Angeles area is. And so I was like really shocked when it was hard to get in over at you guys' place. You know, there was just such a, there was like a waiting period to get in, you know? It's just, and then they had just made a law or passed some sort of ruling that you guys weren't even going to be allowed to sell guns anymore.

Yeah, the governor Gavin Newsom, extremely anti-gun, and the sheriff of Los Angeles County at one point both declared that gun stores should be closed down and that they're not essential. That's because they were pretty much seeing the giant rush on gun stores. However, I believe they were flooded with a bunch of lawsuits, like constitutional lawsuits.

Like, oh, well, that's, you know, Trumping our Second Amendment, right? So then they actually just pulled off on it. So, and some counties they have stopped them. I know the Turner's location in Oxnard. They were shut down by the police there because, by the sheriff there, because of their orders for their county,

but LA County is not one of those counties. Surprising one. Does it worry you like that there's going to be a lot more guns like flooding, like even just driving around anything and like, oh, shit, now there's a lot more fucktards with guns. Like, do you think about that at all? Yeah, I mean, I've thought about it.

Not much I can do about it, man. That's always been a part of American life, man. There's always been firearms. They've always been here. Well, the Big Bang Theory, if you think about that. I mean, America started with a, you know, I mean, are the world started with? Chaos, chaos, brother.

Somebody setting it off, you know? 100%, yeah, it would have been God just shooting. Just whoo, turn of the universe, man. Yeah, dude, somebody just, yeah, the pan hitting the fricking... Firing pin in the primer, there it is. Boom. After that, man, it's just chaos from there.

See, you can't be shocked if somebody else wants to do it. No, no, no, I can't be shocked at all. If somebody wants to Big Bang, it's somebody fucking running through the yard at night. And if you ever shot at gun, man, I mean, a lot of people that are there, anti-gun have never fired a weapon.

It's exhilarating. It's a lot of fun. It captures your kind of, the kind of visceral need for destruction in a way. Well, I've said this before and, you know, I had a buddy who said that he killed someone. And he said that, he said it was awesome.

Oh, yeah. And I'm not saying, I don't condone what he said. Oh, yeah. And I'm not saying he should have done it or anything shit like that, but he did. I trust some of his belief, you know, it's not his belief, but I trust some of his, I trust his own evaluation of what occurred.

Oh, yeah. I got a lot of buddies in the military, man, and they haven't seen any combat yet, and they're just training. And, you know, a lot of them are infantry men and they're getting into it, you know, but they tell me about it, and they're my age, and all they wanna do is go fight.

All they wanna do is go fight. And I mean, I can't say I don't understand it. It's a people, you know, people my age, young men for the history of the human race, man, have been wanting to go to war. Yeah. Yeah, there's some kind of, I was talking about this last week on the podcast

that there's something about us that has like a thing of like anarchy that I noticed like this pandemic starts to like, it starts to light that fuse a little bit. Oh, yeah. Like what if we all got to go back to the wild West days, you know, like what if, you know,

suddenly like the services and the society that we're in, it starts to break down. I think there are some people who not only would like to have that a little bit of that grand theft, auto type of lifestyle, but then also some people who wanna just be prepared for it. Oh, yeah. You don't wanna show up,

you know, you don't wanna show up really late to saving yourself, you know, and being prepared. Cause once it, once, once shit hits the thing, you're not gonna be able to get a gun. There won't be gun stores open. You know what I'm saying? Like if things get really bad, like things aren't gonna be open.

It's not gonna be available. And you're not gonna be able to go to your neighbor like, hey, give me a gun. They're like, nah, I'm gonna shoot you so I can run the building. Yeah, I mean, that's why my whole family lives on one block, you know what I mean? So yeah, that's why I'm pretty sad.

It's a lot of firepower right there, you know, centrally located. Yeah. But, but not many, yeah, 100%. I mean, you have, you have a lot of people that kind of have that hunger for, for chaos. You know, it's just, it's just the way it is. When you live, I mean, look at the US today.

It's so everything, I mean, it's so complicated. Our lives is all social media and, and oh, going to work on time and, and all that. And I feel like people getting kind of sick of it. And eventually they just kind of wanna, they kind of just want that chaos to boil over, man. It just gives them a little bit time of release. Yeah.

Oh yeah. A lot of human beings that wants, or that wants some sort of chaos, or, and then if they don't, at least wants to be prepared for it. At least recognizes that it's in other people. I mean, even if you look back in the Bible, man, which is, you know, I mean, it's a hit or miss book,

but if you, like Kane and Abel, they had four people in the world and one of them killed the other one. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Adam Eve, Kane Abel, fuckin' Abel killed Kane, I think, or one of them. But dude, at that point, when you think about that,

there's four people, four people, dude. You think you will be excited. There's finally four of us. And one of them's like, nah. And one of them's like, nah, fuck it. Fuck, I'm killing your boy right here. Okay, you're like, damn, dude. Abel murdered Kane.

Yeah, bro. Abel fucking murdered Kane, dawg. So that's when you gotta be like, damn, bro. I'm right or wrong. You had it right the first time. Kane murdered Abel, yeah, sir. Yeah, that's what I thought. Because yes, we Kane,

I remember seeing those bumper stickers growing up. If we Kane? Yeah. If my brother gets out of line, yes, we Kane. Yes, we Kane. But so yeah, I just think there's, inherently, there's something in us that makes us wanna act out.

And so when this shit starts to happen, you get people, it lights that fuse, it lights that limbic part of their brain that's like, how am I gonna take care of myself? How am I gonna protect my family? Definitely, man. And if you think about it, like what time in history in the US

captures people's imagination more than anything else? It's the Wild West. You know what I mean? Hey, you're in the saloon, someone looks at your girl, you shoot them. You know what I mean? Someone disagree that you lost a poker game? Shoot them.

Yeah. You know, you see someone out there, take his stuff, kill his horse. You know what I mean? Well, that, see the third part, I don't like as much. Oh yeah. The first two I could definitely,

I would sit on a trial for. Right, yeah. The third one, I'd be like. Killin' a horse? The third one, I'm like, I'm not even signin' up for this, this guy's guilty. What if you're hungry, man?

Gotta eat that shit. Well, if you're hungry, man, I think, if you're real hungry, do yeah. Look, I've told you before, I'd eat a neighbor, I'd eat somebody. I'm not afraid, I've eaten rare shit, I'll have a little more. So I'm not afraid to go down that, you know, that kind of, you know, pallet path,

you know, I'm not afraid to fucking eat somebody. You almost ate Ben, the young Viet. Yeah, almost ate a bit into a fucking Viet and me, he's the guy to damn best buy. And that was just when I was a fasting. So I didn't buy, that was for starvation. This is, if you're talking about real starvation, bro. Cause you gotta think, if shit goes weird,

you're in an apartment building. Immediately it's like, okay, things are gonna get weird quick. Like, if society started to break down, right? Nobody's been picking up trash. So you have no trash pickup, right? So everything is gonna start to stink. Everybody's, who knows if clean water plants

and that sort of stuff is starting to work. Do you have fresh water? Do you have water at home? So people are gonna be on edge, on edge. So suddenly like shitting your apartment building is gonna start to become like a little bit of, I don't think everybody's like, hey, let's be on the same team and team up together.

No, no, it's definitely not, man. I mean, I was just, I just came back from the Philippines, man. And over there, you can see how people are. They're really community oriented. Everyone kind of sees each other like a big family. That's the way I felt when I was over there. But over here, man, it's dog eat dog.

That's how I feel. I feel like you'll have a lot of people that are trying to like work together, but Americans can be selfish. They're looking out for themselves. Especially in a city. I think in a city you're dealing with that. Like I think if once I got out to like a

more of a rural environment or something and you have a bit of land, you have some space where you can see, okay, if there's people out on the Ponderosa or what's going on, you have animals that are around that you could trust to go out and get a little bit of light intel and show back up at the house. You know what I'm saying though?

Like you have real. Recon cow. Yeah. Yeah, I got you. You have a fucking cow that could recon out there and then shake that bell if shit's fucking getting wiry. Just put a GoPro on him, man. Tell him to come back.

You watch it. Like, oh, I knew those motherfuckers were out there, man. God damn it. You found them. But I'm saying you could send a little shepherd. You know, you could send a little German shepherd out there or British shepherd or anything. You could do whatever you want, man.

I'm just, yeah, it's a, but I don't think I want to be the guy sitting on my porch without a weapon. Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't want to be the guy that's unarmed in that situation, right? I mean, without a weapon, I mean, I don't think anything's gonna get that bad. Hopefully not.

I mean, things are looking better already. Right. But if shit goes down the drain, you do not want to be the guy that's unarmed. It's like being in prison and you're not like one of those like racial gangs yet. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's like showing up in prison without a butthole. Literally, yeah. Yeah, it's like, I mean, what are you offering them? If you don't got a butthole, what are you doing? Right. Well, it's like, how are you gonna when everybody else, you don't want to be the guy without a butthole.

Cause you're not gonna fucking last very long. You know what I'm saying? Do you guys have weapons, Nick, Gianni? You guys have weapons or no? I just bought a gun, but my older brother has a gun. My dad has like six guns. But your dad doesn't live here, does he? No.

So that's out of the picture. So you have one gun between you and your brother. But I bought a shotgun and I bought a nine millimeter. Okay. There it is. Yeah. I have no guns, but I want to, but it sounds like a hassle. I know it's not that big of a deal.

You just have to go twice, but I don't know. Yeah, no. We'll help you out, brother. We got options. Word, word, word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got you, man. And then I wonder if, like at a certain point, do you worry that they would shut down the gun stores?

Yeah, I'm not too worried about that, you know? I'm ready to rock and roll, so. Have you had people come to buy a weapon and you're like, and you knew that they were gonna use it for a crime? Oh yeah, I got a few good stories like that, you know? Like sometimes you get those precarious characters in, you know? Oh yeah, definitely. And they come in like, hey man, I'm looking for a,

I'm looking for like a pocket nine millimeter. I'm like, oh, okay. And we do sell small, you know, concealable handguns. And they're like, oh, okay, yeah, let me see that. And then they don't want to know about the specs. They don't give a shit about it. They don't care about anything about the gun. They're just like, oh yeah, let me see that.

And they kind of hold it. And then they're like, they just put it in their pocket. I'm just like, and I'm just like, I'm like, hey man, can you not put it in your pocket? He's just like, hey, I'm just seeing if it fits. And I'm like, oh, okay. And then I saw a dude one time, he put it in his pocket and he pulls it out and draws it on the table,

right at my chest. He's just like that. And I'm like, and I'm just like, oh, all right. I mean, we got guns pointed at us all day over there. Right, I'm pointing at you on accident a couple times, remember? Yeah, it's okay, man. Listen, I've had, I mean, we have time

for people pointing shotguns, 12-gauge shotguns right there, eye level, like at the counter, and you call me the n-word and you're like, I'm not doing it, bro. And I'm like, pretend you're working at a bank and you're like, oh, what are you going to do? Oh dude, man, when I was like 18, I worked at Big Five. And I was there and we sell BB guns at Big Five, BB handguns, and they look real.

And I remember these two brothers came in and they came in there and they're looking, and they smell like weed and they're like, oh yeah, man, I'm looking for that handgun right there. That shit look real. And I'm like, okay, so I show it to them. And they're there, he's just looking at it. He's like, yeah, man, this will do the job.

And I'm just like, oh, you guys, what are you guys doing with it? And he's just like, oh, nothing, you know? And then as a joke, he points it at his friend in his head. He yells at him, like in the store, everyone turns around and looks. He's like, he's like, run me them shoes, motherfucker. And he's like screaming at his friend.

I was like, oh, shit, man. These guys are like just used to BB guns. Like role-playing kind of. Oh yeah, yeah, but they're like, and they're like, oh yeah, that's the work. They bought it. So there's people coming in, if you had somebody come in and you knew, have you ever had somebody straight up tell you,

like, don't sell me a gun because I'm going to kill somebody? No, but I mean, we have to ask those questions. Like I asked you Theo, like, hey, man, there's four questions that you have to ask, and then you have the whole list. And when they're filling out the paperwork and they're asking if you're a convicted felon, they're like, hmm, and I see people struggle on it. They're like, what if I was convicted,

but it wasn't like a violent felony? And I'm just like, yeah, I can't do that. I'm just trying to take the paperwork. I'm like, yes, sorry. If you've been convicted of a felony, unless it's been completely acquitted, unless you've been completely found non-guilty of the crime, and you've not been convicted, then if you're a convicted felon,

we can't sell you a gun for the rest of your life. For the rest of your life. The rest of your life. Cannot do it. Yeah, the test was pretty tricky. I remember, can you bring up that test, Nate? I could not find it. Okay.

California FSC test. Firearm safety certificate. How many did you get wrong, Theo, do you remember? I think I got three wrongs. I found this on the way. He got three wrongs. Me too. 27 out of 30, yeah.

It took me longer than most people to take the test that I feel like. It took you a while, man, but you're making jokes while you were doing it, too, man. I remember everyone was laughing when you were taking the test, because you were saying some funny shit. Well, I was trying to sneakily get information

out of people, too. I was trying to start a little conversation and then see if somebody would drop a little hint of intel. Oh, man. Because some of the questions were a little bit tough, I felt like. It took me about 40 minutes to take it. That's probably looking like a study guide.

You can take a practice test, like California FSC practice test, and they'll have some of the questions on there. It's funny, because if people get the same ones wrong all the time, it's always the same questions that they get wrong. Yeah, it was, some of the stuff for me, the age at which you can buy a firearm.

Yeah, yeah, it's 21 for longer than handguns in California. It used to be 18 for long guns, 21 for handguns. They changed that. They changed that, I believe, 2019, January 1st, 2019. And here's a question right here. Is it legal to store a loaded firearm

in the premises where children have access to? No, it's not. Yeah. Let's see, I have Theo take it. Oh, yeah, for sure, definitely. What is not a part of a cartridge or a shotgun shell? Uh, I'm gonna go with the choke. What types of sight do the handgun shooters use?

That's a dumb question. Yeah. That's a really dumb question. I would say A, all of the above, I mean, D. A sale or transfer of firearm between two private parties must be completed through a licensed firearms dealer only if the buyer and seller do not personally know each other. That is false. It must be completed between a licensed dealer

no matter what. That's when I got wrong. Yeah, I didn't know that. That's the one most people get wrong during the FSE. So if you, so if I wanna sell a friend a gun, I wanna sell Gianni or Nick a gun, I have to go through a licensed dealer. Come by to us or any other gun store.

Tell them you wanna do a private party transfer. They're gonna charge you a small fee. We pretty much get all, both you guys have information. The gun is then legally transferred over to the person that you're selling it to. The money doesn't go through us or anything like that. We just collect our small fee. Money's all handled outside of the store.

Within 10 days, the buyer can come pick it up. And that's it. Just like a normal process. We just hold on to the gun for 10 days, they come pick it up. And if I sell it to Gianni, just without going through a licensed dealer, then there's felony.

Wow. Damn. Yeah. Is it just in California or is that everywhere? Some states do not have, they have no need for a background check for private party. So I believe Texas is one of those states. I mean, you'll have like videos of people buying guns

in like a McDonald's bathroom. You know what I mean? Like, hey, let's meet up. They're selling a goddamn Glock 19. Who's producing that? Why can't we do that next? Yeah. Huh?

Probably a cigar in them. Um, generally it is legal to carry a concealed firearm in public under which of the following circumstances. You're an experienced gun handler and know all the safety rules. You are honorably discharged from the military. You are in an unsafe area. Is legal to carry a firearm in public

under which of the firing services? I'm on guard. None of the above. Yeah. That's none. I'm in Gardena, bro. I can carry a gun, man. It's cool.

Yeah. Nah, I'm just joking, man. Yeah, it's hard to get a concealed carry license in California, man. It's pretty difficult. L.A. County, nearly impossible. I want you to know somebody. Right.

Wow. Yeah. The first cartridge loaded into a magazine presses against the, no idea. I would go with magazine spring, but I have no idea. Oh, it's follower. That one.

The follower? It's a little piece of plastic or metal that's in front of the magazine spring that pushes up on the cartridge. That's a dumb question. That's not even on the real FSA. Yeah, it's not on the test. Yeah.

But these are some of the questions that are on there. Smokeless plowder, black powder that wasn't on there. Nah, yeah. I feel like this might be an old version of the test or something, but some of the questions are on there, but. Yeah. Do you see any of these that are the actual test? Because I Googled what you.

Yeah, a few that we went through are on the actual test. The gun hand. No, any of these links he's saying. Oh, I'm not sure. Not sure. Actually, I owned about more than 10 guns without ever taking the FSE test. Because before, I mean, you can buy guns.

You have a hunting license. They just played with the law a little bit now, but you can buy long guns at 18 still now if you have a hunting license. So I was 18. I mean, I got a hunting license and I was like 12, right? But so when I turned 18 with my hunting license, I was able to buy a bunch of long guns.

That's what I did. So I never even took that test until I actually started working there. Wow. Yeah, no idea. So that's just because that's a new legislate, new law. You have to take that test? That test also, when you're 21, you can buy a handgun.

That's before. And the hunting license does not apply to handguns. Oh, seriously. Weirdly enough. But so I had to, for me to buy a handgun, I had to take that FSE test. And then plus, I mean, I've graded 20 of them before I ever took the test.

Do you think that you could shoot somebody? Yeah. Yeah, I think I can. Yeah. Awesome, man. I mean, I grew up hunting, man. And that's. Where would you shoot them?

Where would I shoot somebody? Yeah. Well, it depends, man. Be honest, brother. Well, I'll be honest with you, man. If you're in a situation where you have to pull out a firearm and you're going to use it on somebody, you're shooting to kill.

Right. You're not going to shoot them in the leg. But if you're shooting somebody in the leg, you're in a situation where you have the intention to injure them, where you're trying to stop one of their behaviors by injury, especially in California. And most states, when you're actually going to use a firearm on somebody and you're not

law enforcement, you're pulling out that gun. That gun is coming out because your life is currently, like your life will be taken if you don't use this. Right. Or somebody in your house or someone, your family member. They're going to step that. Or somebody. No, you're exactly.

Somebody in that house or somebody where you are is going to die or going to be grievously injured if you do not use this firearm. So if you're using that gun, you're using it to put an immediate end to the fight. And you have videos, all types of videos that people get shot 15 times and they're still doing what they're doing because none of the shots are lethal.

Well, they might be lethal eventually, but they're not immediately debilitating. Yeah. You got to turn the lights off if you're going to shoot. So you're talking here or here. That's it. That's where you would shoot. I'd rather shoot somebody in the chest, I think,

because I don't want to shoot somebody in the face. Because I don't want to look at them in their face. Oh, yeah. And then it's just the back end blown out? Yeah, you don't want to see that. And do you have you ever seen anyone shoot somebody else? OK, well, not like. I've never seen it like a.

OK, technically, yes. But not in a way where it was like a real lethal wound. I've technically been shot many, many times. I go hunting. I mostly hunt birds, because Southern California is the biggest hunting season there is, dove hunting. And if you're in these busy fields going dove hunting, there's people on the other side of the field,

and they're shooting doves. And all those pellets are flying in the air, and they land on you. Like one time my dad shot me pretty close. It stung like a motherfucker. But yeah, but it was a shotgun shooting tiny little bird shot. But I was a good 50 yards away. So it stung like a motherfucker.

But, you know, amen, accidents happen, especially when you're whipping birds flying around. Especially when you're aiming at your fucking son, I bet. Yeah, you know, I kind of pissed him off that day, man. Yeah, so I was thinking he kind of just wanted to punish me a little bit. I was kind of at the age where he can't really smack me around anymore.

Oh, yeah, I like that. So he's just like, oh, I saw a quail over there. That all's going to be next to him. I didn't see that fucking quail, but yeah. He gets you a jacket that has four quails on the back of it. Yeah, dude, no orange on me, man. He's shooting through the bush. Hell yeah, dude.

Yeah. I mean, it sucks. But if you go dove hunting in a busy field, you will get shot with a shotgun. I promise you, you will. I like that. I don't have any scars from it, but technically speaking, yeah, I've been hit with a projectile from a firearm, yes.

Yeah. Do you think that a lot of the people you've been selling guns to in this recent surge of gun sales has been people that are more on the liberal side of politics? Yeah, I would say yeah. A lot of people that I talked to were admittingly. And that's the thing, man. I'm not big on that word liberal because in the class.

Maybe that's not the right word. It's all right. Just in the classical sense, liberal means like, oh, you believe in the freedom of the individual, which would be pro-gun. So I mean, yeah, I mean like. Or far, or left-leaning, I would say, leftist. For sure.

For sure, definitely a lot of that. A lot of people admittingly. And you can kind of just tell, just by the way they look and the way they act or where they dress, you can kind of figure it out. Same thing with conservatives. You can kind of just point them out, for sure. But a lot of them admittingly like, oh, I never

thought I'd be buying a gun. I never thought I'd be ever doing something like this. But here I am. And a lot of them were upset with themselves. A lot of times, like, oh, first I'm a gun buyer. And I was trying to make conversation because we're doing paperwork. You excited?

They're like, nope. And I'm like, oh, why are you here, man? And they're like, I don't even want a gun, man. But I feel like I need one. And that's what a lot of people were saying. A lot of people were saying that. Yeah, it's interesting, man. Because I mean, I think it's even

like how I felt a little bit. Like, I felt like I've wanted to kind of have one for a little bit. But this was definitely just the fear of the uncertainty of what's going to go on or what could go on. Broke the camels back, huh? Yeah, there it is. Yeah, I totally understand.

I resonate with that. I get it. But that was most people that were buying guns in this big surge, especially here in California. Yeah, new gun buyers, definitely. First time. First time. Brand new.

Never shot a gun before. How long do you think so this 10 days been a little long? How long do you think that this thing's going to be another 10 days, do you think? No, they usually clear it up within 24 to 48 hours after the 10 days. But people get impatient. I mean, I had people, like, when the big rush yell at me,

because they didn't know it was a 10 day waiting period. So they're buying the gun. They think they can take it home the same day. And I'll sell them the gun, I'll go through the whole paperwork, and then I'll tell them, oh, yeah, so here's your pick up date. And they're like, what? Like, I need to get the gun now. I'm like, yeah, well, OK, I can't do that, man.

It's a 10 day waiting period here in California. 10 days. I had people like, there's not going to be a fucking city in 10 days, man. I need this gun right now. Really? Yeah, oh, yeah. I heard a few people say that.

Kind of like an Ozark, if you watch Ozark or no, I watch for a season, man. It's kind of one of those shows. I feel like it's good until you realize it's not any fucking good. But in the second season, they try to get a baby, and they try to get it. It's like a 10 day waiting period. And the guy's like, no, we need this baby right now, dude. Well, couldn't you get a baby for an emergency, man?

Fucking it's Ozark, dude. Yeah, yeah, no. I was up to some fucking. I need this baby to guard my house, man. Yeah, basically, yeah, it really kind of did. It was like, yeah, it was kind of a weird trade off or some shit. Oh, yeah. I'll give you a baby if you if you launder this money for me, man.

And I'll give you a million dollars. They give you a fucking baby, man. I mean, yeah, you basically just let. Yeah, you listed all the plots. It's like buying a tiger. Yeah, he listed all the plots of season two. Any other questions, guys? Some of you guys are thinking about.

Are there any people recently you're like, they shouldn't have a gun, but. Yeah, yeah, I would say there's some people I feel like not that they shouldn't have one, but I'm like, they should really. They should really, you know, work on it if they're going to buy a gun. You know, like they should really work on their skills and their capability of manipulating the firearm before they really get this gun. So I really highly I mean, I always tell them I highly recommend training. I recommend when you get the firearm, keep the ammunition away from it

and just learn how the gun works. Watch YouTube. It's a huge resource for firearms. If you watch somewhere on the anything on the Internet like that, you can learn a lot just from there to where I learned a lot of the information I have about firearms I learned through the Internet or reading books. Look out the gate, you know, I'm coming at you 100 100. A lot of people don't have that junk in the front trunk when they want to.

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So gunsmithing pretty much entails repairs, modifications, custom builds. Custom builds, just, I mean, it could be even little things, mounting a scope onto a rifle, cleaning guns. So we do all of that. I'm really like, I really like old guns, military surplus stuff. So whenever we get old guns in there, that's like really my thing. But like C war type shit, civil war. Oh, well, yeah, not, not too much civil war. I mean, I like, I like Confederate stuff because it's got a richer history in terms

of firearm stuff, you know, but, you know, they had less of a manufacturing base back in the civil war, but a lot of, a lot of World War II pieces, you know, military surplus stuff, some World War I stuff, which I really like. Just even old, just like old hunting, hunting rifles that are out of production are just cool in general. So the two guns that I got, one is a Beretta. It's a nine millimeter, right? Yeah, it's a Beretta M nine.

And it's, you said it was like the one of the most pop. It was a issue for law enforcement until when 2018. A huge, huge in law enforcement for a long time still is it was issued to the military. So U.S. Army Marine Corps, the Navy as well, Air Force, pretty much the entire aspect of the U.S. military use the, yeah, there you go. The Beretta M nine, you know, first manufactured in Italy, but the one you guys made in the U.S. Hell yeah, hell yeah. That's the best way to go.

All all metal, all steel frame, all steel slide, single double action. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's pretty much it's the Bruce Willis of guns. I like that, man. And single double action means that when you pull the trigger. Your hammer is down. It's a long, heavy trigger pull because that trigger, mechanically speaking, has to pull that hammer back and then drop it after the gun fires and the slide works back and then forward again.

That's automatically going to push the hammer to the rear. So now it's just a short, easy light trigger pull just to drop that hammer and that makes the gun a lot easier to shoot. Yeah. So, uh, and this is really your basic man's gun. Oh yeah. You get some men that come in and their arms are almost two weeks to hold up a gun and they still, and you still have to sell them a gun.

Yeah, I mean, if they want, if they want a specific gun, then they got it. I mean, I remember I had, I had a little, I had a while ago, I had a, and for the whole rush, I had a, I had like a 85 year old African American woman and she was with a cane, you know, just, just frail and she came and she's like, young man, I'm looking for a double barrel shotgun. Damn. I was like, yeah, okay. We actually, we got double barrel shotgun.

So I put one in her hands and she's like, oh, it's too heavy. You got something else? Like, it was like, yeah. So I actually got her a little Ruger, like a LCR, it's a polymer frame revolver, super lightweight. She was able to handle it, but there's a lot of misconceptions around guns, you know, but most people basis of gun knowledge is going to come from the media. It's going to come from movies, video games, TV shows, and they are notoriously bad at

giving out accurate information about firearms, notoriously bad. Have you had people come in and say, I want the gun that's in this game? Yep. That's crazy. Yep. Kids that are just turning 21. They're like, they're like, they're like, Hey, what is, what's that on the wall? I'm like, oh, that's a Chris Vector.

You know, it's a sweet decked out looking little submachine gun thing. It's not actual machine guns, a carbine semi-automatic, because we're not getting there. There you go. That Chris Vector. Yeah. And, and it's like, oh yeah. Man, I used to, I used to run that thing and call a duty, man.

I used to run that thing in Wanna Warfare too. Wow. All types of, yeah. Or just like, I mean, I had a dude come in there. I didn't know anything about guns. He was a rich guy. You know, he came up in a Porsche. He was like, I'm looking for the revolver that Dirty Harry used.

Wow. In, in, in Dirty Harry. I'm like, all right. Like the one like, you know, Clint Eastwood use. And he's like, yeah, that's the one. I'm like, all right. So Smith & Wesson model 29 and I hand it to him, but we actually had one. They still make him a commercial production.

There you go. 44 Magnum. And he was like, yeah, I'll take it. Didn't want to know anything about the gun. Just wanted it because it was in Dirty Harry. Yeah. That's it. So it's just amazing to me that someone sees it in a video game or something.

Like, oh, now I got to have this. Yeah, they just want it, especially if it's a game from, like, Grant, I thought you're driving around with that. Yeah. Yeah. On your lap, man, you're shooting motherfuckers. Yeah, that's just how it is. Do you have, have you ever sold a gun that was used in a crime or murder?

I wouldn't know. We do get, we do get like police trade in guns and it's not unheard of for police departments to have to pick up guns. This is all, I mean, all around the country. They, you know, they pick up guns and crimes and then they, uh, they pretty much clear the crime out, but they still have the firearm that they confiscated off somebody and then they'll, they'll resell it, the gun stores and the gun stores will sell it used for cheap price.

It's really, really popular. So there's plenty of guns out there that have, I'm sure they have some bodies on them. Like I got an old, I got an old SKS, right? So it's, Oh, you've seen it in, uh, I think in Call of Duty. In SKS? I think so.

I don't know, man. It was, it was a rifle used in the Vietnam war a lot. The one I have was manufactured in, uh, in China, but it's a, it's a cool rifle. Yeah. And, uh, it's, it's an awesome rifle. It was the first gun I ever bought, man. When I turned 18, I bought that thing and, and the one I got was, uh, was, uh, a Vietnam bring back.

So some veteran was in Vietnam, probably smoked some Vietnamese dude, had an SKS and then took it home when he came back from the war. So who knows what that rifle has seen. You know? Yeah. And I mean, the one I got was made in 1953. So it's a, it's definitely seen something, you know? That was some killing years back then.

It's older than my pops. Oh yeah, man. I mean, that thing was probably like, you know, early, early stage of Vietnam war, you know, and they were used fighting. I mean, there's originally a Russian gun. The gun was, it was, uh, invented by a Russian inventor, Semenov, but then, you know how the Russians are, you know, they're, they're communists in Soviet Union. So all of their designs after they kind of were like declared antiquated, they

kind of just spread it around the, you know, the, the socialist United world. And so China pretty much got their manufacturing rights to make these. And the Chinese loved them and they made them in the millions. There's millions of these things around the world right now. You have pictures of, of African tribes, you know, extended, you know, ear lobes, the whole thing. And they don't, they're not even wearing Western clothing and they have an old Chinese SKS over their, over their shoulder.

That's, that's their gun. That's wild. Isn't it interesting, like so much of that, uh, of the firearms, uh, trade that goes on, it's unbelievable. I mean, whatever you think is going on commercially in the US, just think under the table internationally. Yeah. Insane.

I mean, you have countries that you wouldn't even expect, like HK in Germany, massive firearms producer. They sell, they sold, I mean, I think like 20,000 G3 rifles to Saudi Arabia. And then all of a sudden they have, they found a bunch of these rifles in the hands of ISIS in Syria, or they found them in, in, in these militia groups, you know, Al-Nusra in Syria, and they have all these G3 rifles that were just sent to Saudi Arabia. So there's, there's actually like a lot of international organizations that

kind of track where these, where these things show up. I mean, there's pictures of like the conflict in Syria, the civil war, where they're driving a Panzer IV from World War II, a German tank. You know, it's like, where the fuck did they get that shit? That thing weighs 25 tons. Where the fuck did they get that? Dude, they're pictures of fucking ISIS driving old Ford Taurus as well. But I'm just saying there's such a, there's such like a secondary market that

it's so funny, like how on the surface would be like, you know, no guns, no guns, no guns. And then if you go and look at how America makes money, one of the ways is through selling firearms to different countries. It's crazy. Firearms is a fraction of it. If you think about the military industrial complex, we're talking weapon systems. I mean, fighter jets, missiles, things that one single F-35, right, a Lightning II, that are pretty much our newest fifth generation multi-role jet. Multi-role jet. I mean, they're worth fucking billions of dollars.

It's just the whole program itself. And they're sent and they're sold to all these countries in NATO. And I mean, all these weapon systems just end up in the hands of all types of people. It's the weapons trade, not just small arms, not just machine guns and rifles and pistols. Software too, even. Everything, everything, intercontinental ballistic missiles, old submarines, ships, everything, everything. The defense industry internationally and even under the table is fucking monumental.

Monumental. Do you think any guns are unnecessary like for normal people to have? Or are you just like, I think everybody should have everything. Everyone should should be a right. What do you think? Yeah, that's tough. Like you have in certain states and stuff, given certain licensing, which apparently isn't terribly hard to get. You can get like an old Soviet artillery gun and there's people,

private owners that own tanks with live guns in them, seventy five millimeter cannons, machine guns. I don't think anyone should be barred from owning those things. But I understand the licensing required to have something destructive. That's what the ATF calls certain things. There's destructive devices, quote, unquote. And and these firearms, I mean, not even firearms, but you have these. You have weapons that are

devastating and I can understand the logic of like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't give, you know, like inner city crime gangs, RPGs, right? Right. However, I think if you're, if you're a law like a law abiding owner and you can use those things responsibly, I don't think there should be limitations on what you can get, especially because it's a slippery slope. I mean, you can see it here in California.

Right. But but then also like imagine if the guy who like shoots up the Las Vegas, you know, right, if that guy had an RPG, it'd be insane. Yeah, I mean, who knows? I suppose I mean, it was fire or rocket, right? I mean, he did he did plenty of damage with the AR-15 anyway. Well, supposedly an AR-15, who knows? I don't know what I don't know what he used. I think a lot of AR-15 is what they say.

Yeah. Yeah, so I understand the logic. I don't necessarily agree with it. It's kind of tricky. It's just really tricky. I don't know how I feel about it. Because so in addition to the bread of what is the other piece of gun that I bought, you bought an AR-15 lower receiver.

So what I mentioned earlier is that the only the only fuckers, bro. Johnny, little bastard. The only serialized part of that. Yeah, there you go. That's just that's called a stripped lower. That's what I got. So that's considered a firearm. It's a piece of aluminum with holes in it.

OK, that's a gun. That's a gun. Right. That's considered a gun. So I had to get I had to buy this piece in order to be able to have this. And the one you the one you got cost you about 40 bucks. And then now I can build the rest of it. All the other parts, trigger, internal parts, kits, trigger group, buffer tube, the upper receiver, the barrel, everything you need on that gun.

You can order it online and have it delivered to your house. Given you have a little bit of know how and some simple tools. We'll throw it together for you and you'll have an AR-15. It's not it's not like a loop or what can I do with an AR-15? Shoot stuff. OK, yeah, it's they're fucking sick, man. They're AR-15s are probably the coolest rifles you can get your hands on, in my opinion, in the United States.

So I mean, they're kind of like it's like the the Ford F-150 of guns. You know, everyone's everyone's got one, right, especially in the country. But yeah, man, they're one of the most popular rifle in the United States. Sammy automatic, shoot a very controllable, easy, easy to use cartridge. AR-15s have been used. How many shoots can I do at once in this? Depends on depends on the size of the magazine you have inside of the gun. But swapping a magazine is not very hard.

So a standard capacity magazine throughout the country is 30 rounds. That's what like the military uses on their AR's. California, the limits 10 rounds per magazine. But I mean, they make 60 round drum magazines, 100 round drum magazines for them. I'll probably stick with 30 or 60. Right. Well, you'll get 10. Yeah, I'll do 10. Yeah. California, yeah, California is.

Yeah, you got 10. Yeah. Same thing in your pistol. Your pistol's supposed to hold what, 15 rounds in the magazine. California, you get 10. 10. That's the rule. That's the rule. 10 rounds limit for whatever gun in California. I like that. Yeah. That's the thing. If you can't get it done in 10, you deserve to die, I think.

Fair enough. You know what I'm saying, though? Like if you can't get it done in 10 shots, you fucking, you know, I'm saying you've killed your, you fucking shot the guy's wife. You fucking killed two animals. You fucking blew out your fucking bedroom wall. Knocked out, never knocked out every streetlight on your block, man. Yeah. Yeah. At that point, you need to go. You're really the.

At that point is your turn. Yeah. You're the one really causing the most trouble at that point. Right. I just don't like it because I don't like the government telling me how many rounds they think is enough. Right. The police officers don't need to follow that rule. The military doesn't have to. I'm going to Nevada. You drive five hours away and then there are 200 round belt fed fucking machine

guns over there. You can have that there? Yeah. I mean, with a machine gun, yeah, given the licensing. Wow. Yeah. But the magazine capacity is not limited in most states. I believe California, I believe Massachusetts, New York, a few other states have magazine capacity limits, Colorado, I think, too. See, it's funny because I believe that people, I believe that some semi-automatic weapons people shouldn't have, you know? I believe that people shouldn't be able to just rattle off 700 rounds.

Right. But then here I am buying a semi-automatic weapon. You buy two semi-automatic weapons. Yeah, two. One's a one's a quite capable rifle and the other one's a very well loved and well used semi-automatic pistol. Jesus Christ, dude. No, man. Hey, they're they're cool, man.

I mean, once you once they're all done, I'm taking you out and we're going to the range. All right, man. Take you guys too, man. It'll be a good time. I just don't want to fucking shoot somebody or myself, dude. No, man. Come on, dude, we're not going to shoot anybody. We'll be fine. We're not going to separate day than Theo.

Oh, yeah, no, we'll go the next day, man. Don't worry. We'll leave Theo out there. We'll just get him the next day, man. He'll be fine. Don't worry. Do you have a feeling in your life that you'll ever shoot someone? Hmm. I pray to God that I fucking don't. Do I have a feeling I would? I don't think really. What did you got to you?

What's my gut tell me that I might? Damn, man. Well, I would say. Oh, fuck, that's just tricky. Given the situation now, I would say it's not terribly unlikely. I knew this old dude and he and he and he shot some people who broke into his house and and it was telling me about it. He said it was fucking terrible, but I really hope I don't want to. But no, I don't think I will, man.

I don't think I might. I got I live in a I live in a fairly secure complex. I don't think anyone's the only situation I see myself doing that is like someone trying to kill me in my house and that's pretty unlikely. Yeah. So I don't think so. But I mean, I like guns for the I like recreational shooting. Like it's one of my favorite hobbies in the world. I go hunting.

I love it, man. I love it. I shoot archery too. It's awesome. But yeah, I want to get into some more of these types of things. You know, that's why I'm excited to get out to the range. I mean, I did notice immediately whenever you started to teach me, even in the store about how to load the gun, unload the gun, like the steps to go through by the end of that, I felt I felt five times more confident, even just picking the gun up.

And like, I just felt a lot more like, OK, now I have some education that goes along with this thing. It's not just a errant thing that could just kill me at any moment. Like now I understand, OK, this is how it behaves. This is how I need to use it. These are the these are the protocols I need to go through. Exactly. So it was really interesting to me just to notice how immediately when I had that education, it really adjusted the way that that the gun felt to me. It makes the world a difference, man.

People talk about accidental shootings and then how how dangerous guns can be in the home. But if you if you have the experience and the knowledge and the know how and the confidence to utilize that firearm confidently, there's no chance of it of it injuring you or anyone else. But if you followed all the proper protocols, it's an inanimate object. Just like anything else, it's going to it's going to hurt you as much as this glass bottle will. It makes no difference. It's just an object.

The only thing that gives it the capability of being lethal is somebody either making a mistake or someone using it with malintention. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Do you feel like if as as the fear of the pandemic itself goes away, that you you'll see a resurgence of people selling their guns back? I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think a lot of people are just buying them and they don't know what the hell they're going to do with them.

And I think as soon as they have the opportunity to get rid of it, I think the used gun market after all this is over is going to be booming. So and where does the used gun market send guns to? So guns, guns, they'll sell it. I mean, there's a lot of forms online where they're, oh, hey, I'm selling this gun. We'll do a private party. Meet at this gun store. They do the private party. And that's it. A lot of times people like, Hey, I just want to get rid of the gun. I don't care about finding someone willing to buy it.

So they sell it to gun stores and then the gunsters will resell them for profit. Have you ever sold a gun to a guy with like teardrop tattoos by his eye? Yeah, I have. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, hey, if they pass the background check, who am I to say that they can't own the gun? Right. You don't really have that jurisdiction. No, I don't. Well, I have, I have the ability to choose who I sell a gun to. I can say, no, I'm not going to sell you a gun.

But I mean, I'm not trying to cause those issues. I'm not going to try to be stuck up. And that, and that kind of ability, that kind of mindset can lead to people being, you know, using that to, to pretty much be, you know, be racist or something, right? If they see someone, oh, I don't, let's say I don't like, I don't like Asian people, right? Oh, I'm not going to sell any Asian people a gun. That's crazy, man. Right. That's crazy. If they're, if they have the ability to buy a gun legally.

That's not your responsibility. Hell no. Right. It's not. Yeah. You're just working into a place that sells guns. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, I mean, if somebody's high, you can not sell them a gun. Yeah, that, that, that comes down to, that just comes down to the law. If I, if I can literally smell marijuana, I can get in trouble for selling them or even serving them or even putting a gun in their hands.

If they smell like marijuana, which I think is crazy, but that's just the rules. Have you ever had a person where you're like, you had to ask them, like, are you planning on killing somebody with this gun? No, I never had to do that. Would you do it if you felt compelled to do it? Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty, I'm pretty outspoken at the, at the store. You have a lot of people that are kind of shy that work there. But yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I like to crack jokes there and stuff.

It's, it's a gun store, man. Like how seriously can you take your job? You know, I'm just, I'm having a good time. So yeah. It's awesome in there. I felt way more machismo once I got in there. They got all kinds of stuff. Chae, little buckets you could sit on. They got those all type of fishing stuff. Nets, you could catch stuff. They had gloves for all type of different things. You could do with gloves.

Oh, I mean, we have a whole fishing section. Oh, it was good. All types of fun stuff. Yeah. You ever been to a Bass Pro Shops? Um, yeah. That's the fucking, that's the microphone there, man. That's the fucking place, dude. Yeah, they're real nice. You can do whatever you want there.

Fellows. I'm good. Johnny wants to talk. I know Johnny. No, I just have one more. This might be a crazy question. Has anyone ever tried to rob your store or have you ever heard of anyone trying to rob a gun store? I've asked, I've asked that question to my manager and apparently our location was robbed a long, long time ago. Dude is just like, there's a lot of gun stores, especially more like family,

not family oriented, but like smaller businesses where the people in there are armed. And most of those places don't get hit. Turner's is a corporation and due to, I guess, insurance purposes, they don't want us to be armed. So we're not armed in the store. That was going to be my last question. Yeah, we're not, we're not armed in the store at all over there. So how quickly could you reach for an arm though?

We can get a gun, but I mean, we don't have loaded magazines or ammunition on us, nor would we terribly be inclined to retaliate considering if someone's in there ready to rob a gun store, they probably don't give a fuck and they probably got guns ready to rock and roll. So if we're not, if we're in a position where we're already at a deficit, just due to the fact that we don't have loaded weapons on us, I, retaliation is probably not the best idea. What would you do then? Run, get the fuck out of there.

Well, why would someone rob a gun store for a gun if they have a gun? Well, they get, well, they, yeah, they have a gun, but then they can just go in there and steal a hundred guns. More guns. Yeah, they fucking break in the glass and they, if they steal a bunch of guns, then fuck man, they, I mean, that's a lot of money. Is there a method of that micro stamping you think that could be, could work? Cause some of it does seem a little bit archaic when you think about it, that you have this gun,

you have this bullet, that they, that there isn't a way to definitely track and know what's going on, you know, just because we have so much technology now. Right. I can, I can see micro stamping maybe working in the way where you will be, you'll have the ability to track the gun. However, practically speaking, that would, that would significantly increase the price of the firearm. Right. Okay. And it's very easily worked around. I mean, you, I mean, it's really easy to scratch out the serial number of a gun.

Right. It's really easy to scratch out a mic, like something like micro stamping. Just. Right. Yeah. And it even says that the micro stamping wears out, that it's not. It just wears out with youth. Right. So imagine if I intentionally try to get rid of it, or if I just replaced the part that has the micro stamping on it. Right.

Just buy a replacement firing pin. Yeah. I'm just wondering what the, you know, what the technology is that will. Allow you to. Yeah. That will solve the problem. That will get it done. Yeah. Micro stamping seems like it's like an attempt at that. Yeah.

I'm just trying to just think. Do you feel like everyone should be able to own a gun? Yeah. Unless you're mentally incompetent or a hardened criminal, I would say, yes. I would say, yeah, everyone should have the ability to. Unless you're, I mean, just completely irresponsible. Yeah. I mean, it's, I don't necessarily see it as a right that's given to us. It's a right that a human being should have inherently. I'm not a religious people, religious guy.

People say like, oh, these rights, these rights are God given. Right. I'm not religious at all. But I feel like, you know, I believe people. Yeah. God never had a gun, really. Yeah. I feel like people should have inherent rights, man. Like if you're just a human being, you have the, you know, you have freedom of speech.

You're allowed to express yourself, right? Right. You're allowed to vote politically. You're allowed to, you know, not be enslaved, right? You're just a free human being. You should be able to have a tool to protect your life and the life of people around you. Yeah.

So I, yeah, I think if unless you're completely mentally incompetent or, or a hardened, dangerous criminal, then yeah, everyone should have the right to own a gun. We have a world, so we have a world that has guns in it. Do you wish that we had a world that somebody just never invented guns? And since I like guns so much, no. Yeah. However, admittingly, things would be,

I would say less lethal if, if there was no guns. But for a much longer period than guns have ever existed, there's still been massive war and conflict coming out to the classical era. But people love killing each other. Exactly. It doesn't matter if you got a gun or not. Yeah.

It doesn't matter. I mean, people, I mean, they would ride horses with, you know, lances on them and go and stab people to death. Yeah. Thousands would die in single battles. It doesn't, it doesn't make a difference. You know, people love to kill each other. They have, I mean, even the mayor of Baltimore announced that

they had to ask people to stop killing each other so they could save the hospitals for COVID patients, for COVID. Yeah. Just ple, please, please stop shooting people. Yeah. That's really what he said. So yeah, people love to, yeah, Baltimore mayor begs residents to stop shooting each other so hospital beds can be used

for coronavirus patients. So I mean, that's real shit. I also think it was, who came out, I think it was the mayor of Dallas. He was saying that, oh, like, like criminals, like chill. Criminals take it easy because like, like, we all just want to go home at the end of the day. So just relax for now.

I thought it was pretty ridiculous. Yeah, just take a break criminals. Actually, before this, I was having Easter brunch with a friend of mine, his stepfather is a California highway patrolman. He's been like this for like 30 years. Yeah. Brendan stepped out actually. And he was telling me that crime is down except for auto theft.

Auto theft is the only crime that's up. That makes sense. A lot more cars just parked now. Yeah. Yeah, ready to go. And I guess if you're a burglar, you got to do something. You still got to work and you do car. You still need money, man.

If you're, if you're, if you're living that life. You got to get out there. Yeah. Well, man, it was interesting. Yeah, I just found it so interesting, Nico, that I, because I came in and you just knew so much about weapons. And, and I was like, man, this is kind of fascinating. And I was kind of, I was like everything.

I was excited to be buying a gun. I was scared to be buying a gun kind of. Yeah. I was kind of glad I finally felt like at least confident and adult enough with them myself to be like, okay, I can have a gun in my house. Right. And I'm not going to shoot a buddy or something for fun. Yeah.

You're doing things crazy. Yeah. Um, so yeah. And then you said, man, there's just so many people buying guns right now. And it was just really interesting to me, you know, in a state that, you know, a lot of times here, a lot of people like no guns, no guns. Yeah. And then this type of, uh, we get into this core of it and everybody's gunning out.

Oh, oh yeah. I mean, just the, just the numbers are mind blowing. Just the numbers are mind blowing. There's going to be a lot more guns out there. Yeah. Just get ready for it. Bottom line. Bottom line.

Do you sell a lot of, uh, Kevlar and stuff like that with them or often or not? No, we don't sell any body armor there. We do have like some plate carriers that we sell there that allow you to insert a like plate armor inside, inside of the, the vest. But we, we're not a, we're not a armor retailer. I don't really know if that's up for private sale in California. I'm not, not entirely sure, but. And what about flares, nades, anything like that?

Yeah. I mean, I wish we sold grenades, man. That'd be sick. But now we don't, uh, explosives not going to happen. That, that'd be sweet though, man. We actually talked about grenades when you came in. I remember that. That was pretty funny.

Oh yeah. We did, man. No, no, no flares. Oh yeah. Grenades, grenades are cool, man. I was in, I was in Cambodia and I was with my, my cousin. You could throw a fucking grenade over there. I bet.

Oh yeah. Yeah. They had like a, they were advertising, man. We were in this little, we were in this little tiny, uh, we're in this little tiny village called Kokong. It's on this river by the Thai border. And they were there and they were, and they guys were asking us like, oh yeah. But they saw our backpacks.

I'm kind of like military style backpacks. You know, no one's in the military who I'm with. But they were like, oh yeah, you like guns. You like guns. And we're like, yeah, yeah, we like guns. And they're like, you go like, come on. We have machine gun. We have RPG.

I'm like, let's go shoot. And we didn't end up doing it. I kind of regret that. I kind of wish, I kind of wish that we did, but they were like, oh yeah, you can throw grenades and everything. Damn. Yeah. But the, dude, Cambodia had a massive, you know, genocide.

They had a civil war. Oh, so these guns, yeah. Shit's just sitting around. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they got it everywhere, man, so it's crazy. How about this, bro? You pull up a grenade detonation on YouTube. People are shocked always when they see this.

People think nades go big. They really don't go that big. You know, a basic nade don't really fucking do that much. Yeah, we were just talking about that, man. It's just really a pop, man. Like a lot of people see grenades in movies. You know, they see an action movie and they throw a grenade. It's a giant fireball, man.

It just blows up. But it's really a pretty small amount of explosives. Not that one. That one takes too long. I've watched that one before. They're not terribly lethal. I mean, well, they're not. They're very lethal, but they're not like massive explosions.

And grenade compilation. OK, let's try that. Yeah, check it out. Got some Kurdistan shit, man. Look at that. Damn, dude, you got to throw it further. Not to do it through four feet. What a freak.

All right, that guy sucks, man. There's Cambodia for you, man. So we have to run back. Wow. That is cool. You know, it used to be eight seconds on a grenade. I believe now it's four seconds. Oh, yeah?

Because people, yeah, it was too much time. The early ones. I want to say during like a French war or something. They were throwing back, huh? Yeah. Yeah. That's so interesting how they could make it, you know, like the time like that.

How do they even build that? I don't, it doesn't, I don't understand. Yeah, it is really interesting. Once you pull that pin. The first like, well, like really widespread used grenades. Here's a guy fucking white dude using it. Sorry to interrupt you. No, you're good, man.

Is that Danny McBride? That's what it would have, those guys are probably in Cambodia. I got through it left handed. He's obviously right handed. Do not do that, that bitch. But look how small that is. It's really smaller than you think.

Yeah. I mean, that is just a little blip. Yeah, but in terms of the timing, like the first grenades that were really used widely were it was in World War I, man. It was called the Mills Bomb. The British used them. And they had an internal fuse that would kind of burn

inside the grenade. And that would make it go off. So you would pull the safety pin and then you'd throw it. And there's like a little hinge. That's how most grenades used. What is it called? Let's look at a. Mills Bomb.

Mills Bomb? Yeah. It was like the first widely used grenade in combat. I mean, there was earlier examples of more primitive grenades, but the first widely produced and issued grenade in World War I. Wow, look at that. Yeah, Mills Bomb.

That's that old school hitter, daddy. Oh, yeah. That 36 meter Mills Bomb right there. There it is, man. And so then all those pieces would. So how does this one work? Yeah, so you'd pull that pin and then there's actually a little striker after you pull the pin

and you let go of the grenade. And that would allow a spring-loaded striker to hit a fuse. And that fuse would burn for, I mean, approximately, I think, five seconds. And after that, it would just go off. There's a little bit of high explosive in there. And then pretty much how they cut those shapes

into the actual body of the grenade, the explosive power would break the grenade fragments on those cuts, and that would be your fragmentation. Early grenades were really used more for taking enemy positions than they were for really outright killing them. So they would throw them. They weren't terribly lethal in terms of fragmentation. They would just throw them, especially inside of bunkers

in World War I down in the trenches, everyone would be dazed and confused because of the grenade that went off blowing everyone's ears out and making them blind. And then they would run in there with bayonets and really finish the job. That was really how it was done back in the day. Nade city, dog.

So I'm telling you guys, keep your shit together, dog. You'll get naded out. And in World War I, man, they had German storm troopers when they were attacking enemy trenches. A lot of times, they wouldn't even go in with a rifle when they were attacking any position. They had these giant facts that they would tie up to their shoulders, and they would just be full of grenades.

They would have 12 grenades on them and then a club. So they would go in there at night, raiding trenches, throw 12 grenades, and then after all the grenades go off, they'll run in there with a club and start beating people to death. Yeah, it was crazy, crazy. Man, it sounds like that movie Black... Pockdown.

No. She. Black. No. Mere. No. Delilah. Black swan, no. Oh. Black with the big fish in San Diego, what's that called?

Blackfish? Blackfish. Blackfish. Niko, man, thanks so much. Any more questions, guys? I think that's it. Yeah, man. It looks like we're in a, we're just it.

We're in a new, we're in an environment where a lot of people are getting armed. Yeah, hey, man, firearms, man. They're a good way to go. It's a great hobby. It's a great way to protect your life, man. And as long as you use them safely, they're really just a lot of fun.

So. Do you think I could be a safe user of firearms? I wouldn't sell it to you if I didn't think you would, man. Right on, man. To be perfectly honest with you, man. Cool. Respect. Thanks, dude.

I appreciate that, dude. Yeah, of course, dude. Good to know I couldn't do that. All right, thank you so much for being here, man. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, of course, dude. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, you bet.

One more thing I wanted to ask you about. So there was a video you were showing me of what other type of hunting and outdoor activities you like to do. Well, here in LA, man, I do a lot of, I mean, the season just ended, but I do a lot of scuba diving. That's something I'm really into. So my cousin and I and my dad and my uncle will go out. So we got a lot of scuba gear, and we'll go down

and different spots around pretty much the west side, out in the ocean, and we go either out in a little boat or we go out there late at night, kind of Navy SEAL style. And we go there and pick out lobster. So we go out there with a lobster bag, we wear Kevlar gloves, flashlight, and you're there, and they come out at night to feed. And where are you at?

Where are you located at here? Right now, where I live. When you do it? No, when you do this? Oh, Palace Verde days around the marina, Redondo up in Malibu, just pretty much the whole bay. Whole bay. And then you go out there late at night

and underwater it's completely pitch black down there. So all the lobsters caught coming out and we have bright flashlights. We're all fully scubaed out. So we're about 30, 40 feet underwater by the rocks, sometimes even shallower. And then you grab these big bugs, man, and they're trying to fight you

and they start grabbing and kicking and then you stuff them in a bag and you fill up the bag, you know, limit seven per day. So we'll fill them up and then bring it back up. And we have some good cookouts. We also go like, I do a little bit of fishing out in like a few rivers, we go craw fishing. It's a lot of fun.

So it's similar to lobster, you just get a lot more of them and they're smaller. Oh yeah. And then other than that, do hunting. And that's a lot of fun, mostly birds, but do some deer hunting too. It's a lot of fun. Lobstering is so interesting, man.

Dude. Go out there at night. Oh yeah, it's pitch fucking dark. Dude, the first time I did it, I was freaking out. I was like, Dan, and you're down there with these ancient fucking crustaceans. These things have been on this planet way longer than we have, you know?

And they're not used to motherfuckers going down there with scuba tanks and a thousand lumen flashlight. And they said, they freak out and you grab them up and you put them in a bag, man. Do you use a weapon or anything? You just grab them with your hands. Grab them with your hands, man. Kevlar gloves, you just grab them.

Here, they're California spiny lobster. So they don't have claws like they do on the East Coast. They're just covered in spikes. So if you grab them with just your hands, they'll cut you up. Oh, Jesus. So you grab with a Kevlar glove, so you stuff them in a bag.

Fuck yeah. And they'll squeeze onto your hand real tight. They're actually surprisingly pretty strong, but. And if you get a big one, you know, you gotta go two hands. So you grab two hands and you have to pretty much hold it onto your chest because they're trying to kick away from you. Like a baby almost.

Yeah, and then your dive buddy pretty much to come and help him get it off and get into the bag. And it's crazy, man. If you land a big lobster, man, it's fucking wild, there's a lot of food there, man. So I've gotten a lot of lobster this year. Sounds good, huh? Oh, yeah.

And then you cook them up, man. I cook them up Aussie style. I throw them on the grill, just butter and seasoning, man. It's fucking good. Get Gianni's little soft ass out there to catch one. Or ride one even. Yeah, if you guys are down to come out in cold water, man.

Yeah, we'll get some lobsters. We'll get some bugs out there. I like Gianni get out there and ride a lobster around. Oh, hell yeah. Well, then that diving, man, I mean, I was diving in the Philippines. It's all whale shark. I mean, I did another dive around a bunch of sardines.

So I love diving, man. That's another big hobby of mine, and I love scuba diving. Yeah, I got to get more of that outdoor motif going on. I used to have it when I was young because we spent so much time outdoors, but the city will really change you. Oh, yeah, I mean, it kind of kills your soul a little bit.

Yeah, definitely, man. Well, now I can kill other people's souls because I have two fucking guns, right? Yeah, there you go. Now you can fucking take souls while you lose yours, bro. Nico, thanks so much for coming, bro. Thanks, Theo. Thanks for having me. All right, push.

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