This Past Weekend - E294 David Arquette

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

Theo sits down with David Arquette.Watch “You Cannot Kill David Arquette”:https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.9eb9bfa6-743d-6579-e1cc-18dd59c6f9ab?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv&t...ag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv-20-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------New Merchhttps://theovonstore.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This episode is brought to you by…Modiphyhttps://modiphy.com/THEO Hot Rod’s Creolehttps://HotRodsCreole.com Bridge Credit Solutionshttps://BridgeCreditSolutions.com/Theo -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Music“Shine” - Bishop Gunnhttp://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503Video Hotline for TheoUpload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Find TheoWebsite: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovonFacebook: https://facebook.com/theovonFacebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovonYouTube: https://youtube.com/theovonClips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Producer Nickhttps://instagram.com/realnickdavis See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 today's episode is brought to you by bridge credit solutions the number one stop for money back guaranteed credit repair go to bridge credit solutions dot com slash Theo today's guest is the subject of a new documentary which really is a just kind of a scavenger hunt into into this man and his journey with wrestling and everything addiction life everything life life today's guest is mr. David Arquette he came in recently and he just sent those ever as a gift is pretty nice of him pretty happy to have a spot this is sick look what somebody made on a 3d
Starting point is 00:01:27 printer on a 3d printer David that's so dope pretty nice huh you have you have quite a collection of yeah you can get into there and we shut that door do you mind oh sorry no you're good actually it was your fault but do you have you have quite a collection of things that people have made for you I saw in the documentary yeah I've got a bunch of collection I've been collecting since I started making money at 17 but just isn't it funny when somebody makes something for like isn't it yeah I almost feel like you can't show the appreciation that things really deserve sometimes yeah totally yeah it's cool
Starting point is 00:02:08 to it's cool when somebody I love art in general when somebody puts their artistic ability to like do something with you involved it's always dope it's like no it's amazing especially when it's fans and all the stuff yeah it's crazy you have a yet a marionette somebody made like a yeah you have the marionette you I mean just briefly in the documentary able to see different little they didn't felt they don't focus on it but they had just little thing you see a little doodad or a piece of art here yeah you know yeah you really get led into my world so you see a lot of sort of my house and my some of my stuff
Starting point is 00:02:45 I collect like collect giant things I have a giant chair in it a giant like tennis racket oh yeah weird stuff like that do you some of my I just started drinking Diet Coke yeah I drink diet stuff too I feel like an old person when I drink it do you I guess so yeah I mean you know it's better than all that sugar though there's these really great ones called the United States of Soda that just came out and I'm only saying it because I just fell in love with it it's a just 30 grams of sugar like not sure grams of sugar 30 30 calories total oh yeah so it's like just a little teeny but it tastes good it's better than a
Starting point is 00:03:30 LaCroix or whatever I like LaCroix and you could burn 30 calories you could bend over and pick something up and burn third hat you know that's 15 calories right there I have to run into you at the gym before yeah and now I got my my mini Theo Vaughn working now you're coming in you do a little bit of flair growing huh yeah yeah you know flying Brian Pillman Jr. or bulletproof Brian Pillman was really my inspiration Diamond Dallas Page had always had a great mullet yeah yeah they got a lot of good mullets I'm trying to think of some they had back and they even had haircuts that were who was some early mullet work
Starting point is 00:04:10 that they had in wrestling some early guys age was definitely and flying Brian Pillman the Rockers Marty Janetti and shot old-school Sean Michaels yeah wild haircuts I'm trying to think of hacks all Jim Dougan mate he his was just kind of such a funny guy yeah his wife Debbie is so nice oh yeah they were at legends of wrestling the last match at the at in the documentary yeah they're really great people you meet the you meet these wrestlers and a lot of the time like Rick Flair is incredible too but his wife Wendy's like the sort of boss behind all these guys you know what's like my wife Christine is the
Starting point is 00:04:51 boss behind me and she's responsible for producing this whole film and dealing with all the crap that came along with it yeah so it oh there he is right there yeah oh yeah he looked like he would use that board up like a standardized test honestly yeah people get it signed and everything that's awesome yeah his whole thing was amazing yeah man that was a wonderful time that was a time when big boss man that's the time when I grew up in that when you had real I don't know I guess that's when I was a kid too so that's when I saw it you know it was like headlights looking right at me of just excitement staying up late at night
Starting point is 00:05:33 at 10 30 to see a Saturday night sometimes on Saturday night yeah they would have a championship bout yeah yeah well it was all this it was something they set up it was thick these were really weird matches a Saturday night main event yes and then it would just be like these quick I don't think like any real belts wherever exchanged it wasn't a typical kind of fight it was more like a spectator thing yeah yeah it was wild man I remember just so excited and sometimes I pass out cuz the excitement I remember just waking up in the morning and didn't know what had happened and my brother was gone and yeah no internet
Starting point is 00:06:09 back then you couldn't catch up no you had to find a friend your internet was the first friend you saw at the bus stop or whatever and you'd be like what happened Larry like I got ground and you're like this fucking it like this dude is dial up man I need a real friend who has facts yeah that's what's also cool about wrestling it's like I have a couple friends Brent Joseph and Curtis Reynolds who have just been my friends for years but they're friends that love wrestling too so we all like it's almost like those kids again growing up you can call up and talk to them that's what I love about RJ City to my tag team
Starting point is 00:06:46 partner we can talk wrestling and he's all he's wrestled half of these guys so he can tell you stories about hacks on Jim Duncan or you know Piper or whatever good tales yeah you know the closest thing I've seen a wrestling in a while in real life is we nick do you have that uh bring up that park thing in Portland the other day this anti I don't know if you saw this or not this is okay have you ever you're familiar with RJ City at all I'm not I saw it's hilarious I saw really funny on Instagram is he I mean Twitter yeah he's a real Twitter he's a real millennial I'll have to check him out this is protesters in a park but this
Starting point is 00:07:29 to me seemed like yeah to me I know like a lot of these people like you know a lot of this is political stuff but a lot of it to me has a very it starts to get a very wrestling type I do you see any that when you see some of these park battles these days it seems like a lot of costuming you know what the best thing I've seen on the internet it just came up this morning on Reddit it was otter gangs fighting each other in Singapore yeah these gangs of otters are getting together and they're fighting each other in Singapore oh water animals you mean otters yeah the otters that reminded me of wrestling oh let's see this this is so
Starting point is 00:08:12 fun look at these otters oh hell yeah so they're like these otters that are just wild otters but there's gangs of them and they don't like the other gang and they're like they're having a rumble here these otters just oh they're going to add it look at the small crew they're smaller than the big crew and they're going for it this is very BLM royal rumble stuff oh my god look at those guys coming off the top rope you saw that really into it do they know who these otters are are they pets or that people brought or these are just these are natural they know they they like I think they might have bred the otters
Starting point is 00:08:54 for this lake but then they they broke up into two different groups and then they don't like each other man it's kind of like Romeo and Juliet a little yeah but like Gangnam style yeah that's in Asia Singapore yep wow west side story oh they do that dude they'll fight anything I wonder if Michael Vicks behind this I feel like dude how how how crazy do you think if Michael Vick would have fought a cute animal against each other I wonder if it would have been different oh man like sure bull or hey you know like I guess probably not because they had it was I think they got upset because I like a lot of the deaths of the animals
Starting point is 00:09:32 but anyway yeah so my friends a cop who's in the documentary Jerry in Connecticut he just sent me a video two of these two turkeys funny about animals fighting over a girl was just so funny and I guess we do it yeah I guess animals will get real territorial yeah you know yeah did you ever get in a fight for a girl whenever you were younger you think yeah for sure I once got upset I dated Alyssa Milano for a little while and I once got upset she showed up at this club we all go to Roxbury and she showed up with another dude and we were just broken up and I was like crushed did you stay in the club no I came outside I
Starting point is 00:10:16 kicked her car unfortunately I apologize to her since she's she's cool I was a real piece of work but I just kicked the side of her car you gotta do that bad but we didn't even really fight it was so pathetic were you pretty heartbroken or not you think oh yeah she was like one of my first love I mean yeah she's a wonderful girl dude you had a real nice smile huh yeah I must be nice but we all you I mean you were pretty handsome I mean you're still a handsome guy thank you but I mean this is a time in our lives when you people really were I was just young young and in Hollywood for the first time never really had pictures
Starting point is 00:11:03 taken of me wow I was a mess though I'd once I confess my left I hope but she doesn't mind me sharing all this but uh we're once confessed her love and I had taken some pill and then oh yeah we had some real sweet conversation and I'd forgotten all about it but she was so hurt I don't blame her I was a real like horrible boyfriend oh we went on this really beautiful trip oh I feel so I mean it's at least you're honest about being a bad boyfriend I was a really bad boyfriend oh man we went on this trip and we were playing this mixtape and it was all these beautiful love songs and then she popped it out and she saw some
Starting point is 00:11:48 girls writing on it she's like where'd you get this tape and I was like for my old girlfriend she's like how dare you I didn't get it at the time I totally get it now but yeah yeah it's been a long road to figure out how to be a good man that's been something for me oh yeah I feel that man I feel dude that's what this whole podcast is based on oh dude struggling men you're young guy you got a serious lady or no I've never had a serious lady in my life no no kidding I don't think so I mean I have yeah I've just never been in a relationship where I didn't lie or cheat you know that's kind of really I think been my MO you
Starting point is 00:12:31 know kind of I've always like I think like dude I remember having a part some girl invited me to Colorado one time I go she takes me to a party I'm at the party somehow I end up getting her to play like a board game at a new tick a long time and then I met some snuck offs with some other girl and like profess my love to some girl in this closet and yeah I don't know everybody's feelings got hurt yeah I hear you my first marriage I was really faithful and everything and you know it's it's all it's one way or another at all I don't know there was a lot of stuff that happened I got my heart broken and I
Starting point is 00:13:17 don't know I know it's it's important to be faithful and you know true it's hard though it is hard you know especially when you have broken heart and you got animosity and like for you like when you lose faith and love yeah you know so nice I think I lost faith in love like before I even knew what love was you know yeah totally yeah totally I mean I'm still trying to figure out everything marriage and family and all that stuff well you got a beautiful group over there you got that little fellow that high-fived in the documentary yeah Charlie and Gus the incredible wife Christina who's been amazing and really taught me a lot
Starting point is 00:14:02 about loving myself and you know that's really what it all comes down to like I'd been on this whole quest to like you know find love and all this stuff and is cliche as it is that people say you have to love yourself before you can truly be loved or or you know experience love in that way I did learn that through this whole thing that it really is true because sometimes let's see you have all these things at least I have all these feelings that I'm like you know I don't know does she love me or does you know just certain things happen during the whole thing of this movie which were pretty intense just yeah there's a
Starting point is 00:14:45 cute man yeah her being really upset with me like do you want just want to die like is that what you want to do and I had to sort of come to terms with that like I don't want to die but I wasn't happy either so I had to figure out how to love myself as crazy as that sounds what were some things you feel like because like I mean I go to you know I'm in recovery so I go to like stuff like that you know that's good yeah that stuff helps so that stuff helps it's good to have like a group that kind of helps me yeah for sure it's hard for me to not be like I got my biggest thing is just with my mom I go through moments where
Starting point is 00:15:22 it's just like there's no point in like being upset anymore it's almost like my brain like like sometimes I feel like she was mean to me when I was really little before I even knew I was alive or anything you know right I can't go back and fight those wars I don't even know if it really happened right sometimes I think I'm just over extremely overly sensitive you know yeah and then you grow up in a world where it's like you got to be a tougher you got to be able to you know put a rear naked choke on somebody or something you know like you know and then it gets scary and then now I'm a little older it's like okay at
Starting point is 00:15:55 least I can try to figure out who I am a little bit and not be scared at least to do that yeah for a while I was scared to even kind of figure out what I was feeling or anything you know yeah completely it gets interesting so the doc I watched the documentary last time I didn't watch the last 20 minutes because I didn't want to ask you about anything that would give it away so it's it's a documentary it's a mockumentary there were parts where I didn't kind of know like it's it seems like a little bit of I don't know you tell me it's a documentary okay I didn't like they kind of set it up so I'd start from the
Starting point is 00:16:32 bottom and go up but like even there's a death match in it that wasn't planned they weren't even supposed to be filming that night something I set up I'm the one who also went on all the independent circuit the film crew didn't really follow me on all that I love that yeah it was really fun it was a real education yeah when you get to places like there's a moment that I can mean you get to the place and uh well here's a question right here that came in from a young fellow for you nice this is all real-time stuff no no no no this is real time so this is all we'll be edited later but these were sent picked up this
Starting point is 00:17:09 week since you're David Arquette why in the goddamn buck would you wrestle Nick Gage in a death match what's the point you could wrestle so many other indie stars but why would you choose someone that is willing to stab you to death with a light to get back good good question good question I should have asked myself that before I did it what happened was I was supposed to wrestle Joey Janella who's an incredible wrestler the spring before that but I couldn't because I got injured or I was doing a movie or something so then they were doing another spring break the next year in Los Angeles and I and the
Starting point is 00:17:54 wrestler was wrestling the gauge fell out and he said you want to rest on the gauge and I didn't even really know who he was and didn't know much about like death matches I knew about hardcore matches I knew certain things but I didn't know that there was death matches are kind of frowned upon by some professional wrestlers because they call it garbage wrestling kind of came from I don't know if it came from backyard wrestling it they have a whole world of it and oh yeah Mexico and then tetanus shot wrestling we used to call it no getting yeah yeah yeah in the shot circuit yeah yeah I actually asked
Starting point is 00:18:29 somebody before that because my wife was all concerned she's like a freaking why do you do you know if they anyone has like you know what you call it first eight yet no no like have been tested for like hepatitis or something I was like I don't know do you ask somebody hepatitis is a black wrestler that I know no kidding that's hilarious yeah so I didn't know like if I was supposed to ask I didn't know I was in over my head you know I have been I really am trying to figure this all out but I went on I did a bunch of research on on death matches and everything I still didn't know what I was getting into so
Starting point is 00:19:19 but to answer the question I wanted to that's a segment of wrestling that has a really strong fan base that really love wrestling and even though a lot of people's frown on it a lot of people love it mm-hmm so it is something I we wanted to do a backyard wrestling match we wanted to do like a hardcore match but it just didn't know how hardcore it was gonna go and is that the one that that's not the one that I see in the documentary though yeah that is okay because that really yeah that was definitely you could see somebody's eating Fritos right by the ring that's real shit
Starting point is 00:19:56 it was real I was like a spin on people I hated me but the idea was like if I could win over this crowd I could win over any wrestling yeah yeah it seemed like it must have been pretty brave to wander first of all it's scary going in into somebody else's backyard that's always a scary thing yeah that was really like okay let's do this I just I just I don't know I equate this whole film this whole experience to like almost cleaning out your garage or like any kind of task like that mm-hmm where it seems so big and insurmountable but then once you get in you just work on one corner then finally you'll clean up
Starting point is 00:20:37 the whole place and that's sort of you just have to keep it keep going like in wrestling if you hurt your neck don't worry because next week your back is gonna hurt way worse you know I mean you'll keep trading these injuries all along the road it just never stops yeah it's almost like you're a voodoo doll but you keep doing it to yourself in a weird way it's true it's true I was thinking about doing a little video game of because my son used to play this video game of a little voodoo doll and I wanted to do one of me where then you could get anything try to blow me up or hurt me and I just come all back
Starting point is 00:21:13 together like you can't kill David Arquette yeah man that's crazy when you're doing the when you're doing the documentary so at the beginning you talk about you won the WCW championship yeah and at that time were you like were you still like running real hot on the Hollywood stuff where you wanting to try to do something different you also seem like kind of a loner that kind of likes to do their own thing and in a way to me was that part of it like if you look back on like kind of learning about who you are based on some of your life path and the choices you make dick are you able to like kind of see why you chose
Starting point is 00:21:54 that there do you have any thoughts about that yeah in the movie it like kind of sets it up like you know screams kind of typecast me as a goofball and doing wrestling was kind of like bad for my career I don't really agree with that necessarily that's that my wife kicked me out of the editing room at one point because I was like no you can't say that that's such a rule you gotta because I say in one point I haven't you know gotten a job in in ten years like who goes to yeah who goes to auditions over and over again that hasn't gotten a job in ten years but what I say right after that is I haven't gotten a job from an
Starting point is 00:22:30 audition in ten years I've worked within that ten years it's just you know people knowing me or or just word of mouth or whatever so it's a little like confusing but the you know I've always like made these weird choices you know I very public with stuff I called it an hour and started that bunch of drunken conversations and did a bunch of AT&T commercials those are probably the things that hurt my career more than anything honestly then then the wrestling film or wrestling in general so I don't really agree with that but my my career was at a weird place ready to you know when you get up to a certain place where
Starting point is 00:23:10 you're doing your own films it's kind of like if this next one doesn't do great then you kind of fall back down on this ladder of success but if you can parlay it and have your films continue to do good or just even make money then it's you know you can kind of keep going with it but and but haven't any of those expectations or it's almost unrealistic a lot of it's out of you a lot of it is out of your control yeah totally unless you do it yourself and that's what I've sort of learned that's why we did this documentary it's kind of taking control of your life and your career and just your what you want to put out there yeah
Starting point is 00:23:47 it's what you've done with this this podcast it's that kind of attitude where you like fuck it I'm gonna you know do what I want structure it the way I want you know and then that just builds on then you could do other things that you want different projects start popping up and you start spending your energy on your own stuff yeah other than waiting around for someone to you know stamp you cool or not yeah so that's just not the way to go anymore and people can do it with their phones and learning editing on on their on their phones or on a computer you know it's wide open now because storytelling is getting better
Starting point is 00:24:22 people are more aware of filmmaking and what it takes to tell a good story so you can read books on it you can look at YouTube videos to learn things about lighting like there's all kinds of resources now yeah you know it's funny when I was watching it one thing I started to realize was because I'd seen you we just crossed paths at the gym a couple times you know and you were always playing were you a trainer a racquetball we guys doing I was always just going I usually play basketball and then do some weights that's usually just what I do to get some cardio I thought maybe I'm a sweater are you I'm yeah I
Starting point is 00:24:58 sweat too much it's gross dude my legs I'd get these I shouldn't probably say this but I'll get these India I used to get these erection pills from India right yeah and they on there they hot legs so sweaty no kidding why did you just get they're too strong man the American no kidding oh wow god bro I couldn't even bend my arms I was like a damn gingerbread man but these men they would pick my leg sweats so bad and mostly on the back of my leg so it's just oh so I had to keep my back on my body away from a woman during like any sort of like you know sensual engagement and damn it just broke me man it just
Starting point is 00:25:44 God but they were so cheap and they were they were they would give you kind of a deep an erection but a soft like a calm like a manageable erection because the stuff that these selling farm a big farmer that dick that big farmer selling is too much man it's too heavy yeah but what I was gonna say was when I watch the documentary one thing I started to do was that I did notice I liked the story and I liked the references to wrestling you know cuz I like wrestling myself but a lot I started to care about you though as a person as I'm watching it you know things I started to get invested in okay obviously I know
Starting point is 00:26:20 who David Arquette is but you know I just started to the scene that really got me was with seeing when you're doing the the street fighting with the Mexican guy oh yeah man that was amazing I didn't even know street like wrestling what's a thing it really put me on your so it put me on your side like in a you know I'm already on your team as I'm watching it but it put me on your side is like in a just in like a real human kind of way I feel like so I know you're not asking about that but I'm just trying to give you just how I felt about during the documentary thank you now there's some wrestling in our circuit
Starting point is 00:26:58 there's some you know there's some hot air balloons out there and I want you to take a peek at this guy right here Tom Shagura oh yeah and he had this wrestling this promo video that came out a while back just about a month ago oh no I was I meant that they're stupid they're poor they're all beneath me you know they're losers if they want to come you know maybe clean up my toilet or whatever I just spit on them while they're doing it give them a taste of the mystique hey Rick you're so strong you could even withstand the ankle lock oh it's true it's damn true mission accomplished
Starting point is 00:28:00 you know we always enter the bring together anybody wants to get the turkey slicer come come at me man mr. Rick you are never down to the count you are the best there is the best there was and the best ever will be just keep those jeans high and tight and know that you are the excellence of execution and everything you do wrestlers yeah it's fake why can't I win a fake fight sign me up oh man rehearse and I'll whoop your fake at that's a burn me he get what that's a burn me that part oh yeah did you guys have it out yeah I went back at him but that just yeah it's fake it's it's not graphed it's organized but
Starting point is 00:28:48 it's not fake at all once you get in the ring you'd be surprised how not fake how real it is and often like people here waiting kind of teach you a lesson once in a while because you're bleeding in the documentary yeah that was a death match though but even the backyard match but you almost see there's always something it just hurts to take those bumps and I three fractured ribs when I had to wrestle RJ City and a bunch of stuff oh man it's a good look with you as a wrestler oh I came back at him this is me coming back and I went more old school style oh yeah but it I mean obviously it's got no respect for the
Starting point is 00:29:26 business that comes with racking a lot of smack being thrown around by Mr. Grick saying wrestling is fake what are your thoughts on that oh was it fake when I nabbed the gab out of that little rush a hunter mr. Michael wrap up was it fake when I broke the spirit of that little Norwegian smut mannequin mr. Crystal was that fake Rick was it fake when I put the dirty you nagging on little Bobby Miyagi was that fake Ricky the only thing not real here is you brother yeah you little diet denier starch addict gout candidate I bet you can't even skate board that was a personal like that's a choice for the
Starting point is 00:30:21 fan I had to get a man I had to go get a man so we can I came right back at him because that's the part that hit me I think there's a certain element of people out there that don't understand when they call it fake how it hits some people yeah that's for sure where does that hit you when they call it fake oh man you just don't understand how real it is until you get in there it really is like it's getting crazier and crazier I'm not that it's there's a there's a real beauty like I wrestle cold cabana it's one of my favorite matches and eats and page these guys are super pro so even though they're making it real it's it
Starting point is 00:31:02 still isn't as painful as some of those other lessons people teach you you think you could beat the fat guy that was in the beginning of this to grow yeah you think he has what it takes actually once it gets once he gets into the ring do you think he could I mean has he trained probably that's the thing like no one we're going on a very short limb and say no he is not well then it's just it's kind of like something you usually shouldn't do like unless somebody's really so train it because every wrestling match is as good as the most experienced person in there you know or the most you know like the most trained
Starting point is 00:31:41 you know they don't have to have the most experience but someone who really gets it can make you look good one of my best matches was with Jack Perry and jungle boy a W and he's just so talented that he made for him Nick made me look like I could do things that nobody had ever I'd never tried before a Canadian destroyer and the only reason it works so well is because he's so great at it I mean it's certain things are not really supposed to talk about or whatever but right but he's super talented wrestler he's Luke Perry son oh is it really yeah god dang he's damn beautiful dude yeah he's great he's a movie star this kid
Starting point is 00:32:18 he's never smoked never drank got a great head on his shoulder he's tough as nails he's better looking about easily 60% of the women I've dated even the guy above him right there yeah Luchasaurus he's amazing wrestler wow he's good you know I don't know 6 8 6 10 so you really have a love for this whole world I guess that's something when I got as I'm going through you cannot kill David Arquette that I'm like okay is this love is this a real passion that he has for this yeah I love wrestling I've always loved wrestling just sort of I've always loved it as a fan yeah kind of like and then when the championship thing came I was promoting ready to rumble
Starting point is 00:33:03 they said well put the belt on you if you can stay till the next pay-per-view I thought it was a terrible idea but I'm now a state page broke it down he's like listen boy you don't have to do it if you don't do it then the promotion ready rumbles over the whole ready to rumble things over you won't be wrestling with us but if you do you'll stay with us you'll travel with us you go you know do a pay-per-view that's kind of what I really wanted I thought it would be really fun and I thought it'd be taken more as a funny storyline rather than something so serious and kind of devalued the belt which I understand now
Starting point is 00:33:38 what was more do you feel like it was more devaluing the fans that were saying this is you know using a guy from Hollywood if you will or critics that were saying this is not what somebody like David Arquette should be doing yeah I mean I think part of it was I was an actor I was smaller than most of the wrestlers back in that time period since then you've had smaller champions like Daniel Bryan and Mike Miss Annan yeah well I forgot Seth Rollins sort of some some guys so Ray Mysterio's like kind of yeah yeah I don't know it was just sort of that I was an actor and I wasn't trained and it they just didn't accept it
Starting point is 00:34:35 as like this in funny thing and then the guys like Booker T had never been the champion or Scott Steiner so I was a I asked Booker T in the locker room I said how many times have you been the champ Booker and he's like never I was like oh shit so then when I went out next I I went off script and I said I don't deserve to be the champ Booker T deserves to be champ and he was the champ a few like two you know the belt went to Jeff Jared and then I think it went to Booker after that so not that I had anything to do with it but it's good to plant those seeds yeah did you um so did it get weird because then after you get the
Starting point is 00:35:13 strap you did you start to feel ashamed of having it are you like holy shit you go from excitement to then all of a sudden I still have this thing and I have to carry it you have to carry it yeah I'm everywhere through airports every day you can't lose it or leave it in your car you can't leave it in your hotel like a baby in Georgia yeah you have to carry it every heavy you're responsible for it and they're heavy and they're heavy yeah I just didn't know what the heck I was really doing nobody told me like really how to wrestle how to do anything like I just show up and they'd say okay you could sometimes they'd hand you like
Starting point is 00:35:47 literally pages a dialogue like I'm supposed to memorize this this is more it's way harder than people think like cutting a promo all that kind of stuff and a lot of it's has to do with the thing people say that it's not real or something right when people cut good promos they're real like you have to find a place inside yourself that you feel this you can convey that you're angry at this person you do the things that you do in an acting set where you're like when you have to do something emotional where you kind of go through in your head all of these really painful times in your lives and you get
Starting point is 00:36:26 to a place where those emotions are like kind of right there and you have to do that with wrestling too you know you have to make wrestling real for you for what you're doing for what you're conveying like that's where wrestling is entirely real and and then there's the level of like people's personal lives what's going on how they feel about you or how they feel about their own lives I mean a lot of people are when you're real pro you can separate stuff like that but some people coming up don't some people get overly excited you know and and then me being a beginner it's mostly me that's getting like you know a head
Starting point is 00:37:05 of things or like you know not you know you've learned in wrestling to really slow down time just kind of like you know allow moments to happen and get hit and like really react to it and look at you know a fan just to make a connection right there it's like he's not gonna do this to me you know you just make it real and then it becomes real when you can make wrestling really feel and you the audience you can capture them then they're they're like like while the match is going like oh he almost made it and then you got him on the hook you know and then you just have to kind of reel him in best way to reel him in
Starting point is 00:37:48 is like do a few like things that they don't either don't see coming or a quick turnaround and then boom you know some big thing that makes them cheer and then you know you either get him to like the three counter or you kick out yeah but it's you should always end on the sort of your biggest pop of the of the performance it sounded like he was describing stand-up no shit I think there's a lot of stuff like I'm sorry no that was it there's like that's a really good point I was trying to think of some of correlation and oddly but yeah I guess and you're taking me back now too also to just being a fan I
Starting point is 00:38:29 remember man when that guy would crawl over and get on top of the other guy and finally it's like good is gonna beat evil and everything is gonna be okay in the world and the and then you're like this ref has like a rotator cuff injury and he can barely get his arm to go down and he gets stalled at the top and you have to some other ref has to come in and push his arm down but it's just like life it's like things just sometimes get so close and then there's just these chops and these ups and downs and oh man yeah that's when it's beautiful that's when that's not fake man yeah and when you typically work with
Starting point is 00:39:05 veterans they know how to construct matches words like half the time I didn't even know like what was going on like why are they putting that here I don't understand why would I but then you see it all together and you start figuring out and then once you get used to it then you're good then you can relax in this stuff and you know certain things are coming certain parts of the match you know the heat and all the sort of stuff that comes how you construct a match listen up all you business owners and all you entrepreneurs I got to tell you about this so recently if you go to Theo Vaughn.com you'll see work has been
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Starting point is 00:43:05 diamond Dallas page now the cuz yeah cuz people wouldn't say that ballet is fake people wouldn't say that a move I mean yeah yeah there's just there's almost a Greek art to it or something absolutely there is it it really is good against evil I mean that's what's happening like in the world right now it it really is becoming a wrestling match oh you know we've got heels and faces good guys and bad guys everybody I mean everything his turn we've been saying this for years that ever it's all turning into the WWE yeah everybody's cutting promos it's just like everybody's cutting promos everybody's
Starting point is 00:43:44 driving for uber it's just getting insane no remember like when politicians they used to be like in a place somewhere like debating against each other now they're all just cutting promos on fucking Twitter I know the whole view it's on Twitter thing it's just crazy and like everyone and politics and everything and just a bunch of wrestlers going nuts it's everything man I remember one of the most beautiful things I ever saw though I was at the I was at the wrestling and they had a Mexican gentleman a man I think he was a man him and his son were the same exact height so who knows how old either one of them
Starting point is 00:44:22 was you know but they were both wearing a championship belt and when the rock came back it was the night that the rock came back this about eight years ago I think or maybe wow and when he came back they both started bawling crying together like just standing there I love it was just man it was that's real the night was great but that was probably the best thing that I saw yeah I love that that's that's the best part just that humanity and the love for and it's it's because he took his son but his dad probably took him and then you know his dad probably took his father you know that's what it is it's like some of
Starting point is 00:45:04 these moments are just part of our history yeah that's what it upset me so much like I love wrestling I didn't want to be excluded from it or go with my wife and then have people like yelling at me I was just sick of it so I wanted to do something about it so it's also like everybody's got that feeling of like something they dream of doing you know we all wanted to tap into all that like you know not letting people bully you like you know going after your dreams like never giving up like giving something everything you got and we didn't know where it would go if it would you know if it would go to one of
Starting point is 00:45:46 the bigger places or something but it worked out that it was this perfect kind of full circle moment you mean this documentary yeah the nasty boys just kind of like getting my back and accepting me as one of the guys yeah yeah because it's interesting because I didn't even know today whenever we were coming in here I didn't I didn't know I didn't know if I should ask you in advance like how serious is this is this like you know just I don't want to say a spoof but now it's it definitely gives it more depth to me knowing how you feel about it you know yeah and also one thing it's really cool is that you got to be
Starting point is 00:46:27 you've gotten to be a Hollywood star I mean you've gotten to the fruits of that stardom are really I mean it's it's sketchy and I don't even know if there's that big if there's that big of stardom these days there's a few people but the the idea of like like stardom forever is very hard to have I feel like yeah like at a level of like you know sometimes we think about guys yeah I mean there's like eight or ten guys you know it's so they're really selective I mean they have the not the luxury but they have the patience to be like able and just have it in themselves to really wait for the right project you know get the right
Starting point is 00:47:14 directors and producers attached make sure that that's the character that they want to play but they also have the luxury of maybe not working for a year or two right I always I grew up with a father was working character actor who so I think it like got into me that it's like I'm a working actor like I need to work so yeah I'll do things that you know you know on paper people say like why are you doing this kid's show you know just for for whatever reason but it's it's all directly connected to just working having a job going and doing work like I'm not comfortable sitting around all the time yeah I think you have
Starting point is 00:47:55 to give up but you also it feels like you have to give up some of you have to give up some of what you want in Hollywood it seems like at certain points you know like like I got offered some things in the past year and there was this animated project I got offered to be on this show called hoops that just came out on Netflix and it just didn't I kind of wanted to do my own animation thing and I didn't and I just wasn't sure and so you know I had to say that it wasn't for me even though it would have been probably fun and neat and I had to see it come out and be a little disappointed but then I also just had
Starting point is 00:48:31 to remember it myself because I'll just immediately start feeling bad like oh man I wasn't in it and but I don't mind my brain doesn't want to remember nine months ago when I was like I just don't think I tried to make a choice for myself you know it's hard to do those choices it's hard unlike to my detriment a few times they not wanted to do something that turned out to be really great and really great group of people doing it sorry I'm burping all day it's okay these mics don't pick that up but that's diet soda man I remember when I would see people drink diet sodas when I was young I thought they were old that's what
Starting point is 00:49:08 starts to scare me dude I know man I'm much older than you so it's like it's really funny when you start looking back it's real like real it's really how crazy is how much older you get once you hit like 39 or 40 yeah there's that 39 to 40 39 to 50 is like a whole thing there are really cool things that happened to you start like not caring nearly as much about stuff oh that's nice yeah it's really nice not getting like you start realizing where your anger comes from like it's like oh you start feeling you can control it more uh-huh and it's not like crippling like sometimes it feels like oh yeah man I
Starting point is 00:49:54 would like to have that less stress dude I used to get especially over women bro here's the crazy thing if you want a date a girl now and say she's younger than you it's so hard because you can't talk about any music oh yeah you say like oh do you listen to it a second you can have a do that since you're like fuck if I name a band that is like 15 years old right now I don't know that whole that whole world is yeah you like the black crows and you're like oh I don't you know I don't know like what are they at the San Diego zoo she's like are they endangered it's just it's so sketchy bro trying to like trying to keep up with
Starting point is 00:50:34 the Joneses of youth is is impossible yeah it is it gets real sketchy and it also is like I don't know you can meet the right people but you know it's a lot of the time just pretty empty feeling you know what I equate a lot of that stuff to this buddy on everyone's doing zooms now and at the end of a zoom call it's always like let's get to leave the meeting thing it's always like it's almost like you're done fucking you're like this feeling of like here's my real face that's a good point here's my real face and no one can ever find it it's like all right I love you and it's just well I have those moments I've learned
Starting point is 00:51:19 how to sit in them a little more the uncomfortable most I did a show called Carter but it came out apparently with Jerry O'Connell who's a really man yeah he's so talented here he's hilarious he has the best stories bro he's the best stories he's just such a funny guy so we're sitting we had a blast we were just joking the whole time but I went up to Canada to do show Carter and then uh he was like if something happened on the set and people were getting a little upset and he's like oh yeah yeah yeah I was like I was licked it was like what's up it's like I think they're getting a little argument or something I was like
Starting point is 00:51:57 yeah they're in an argument why are you getting all jacked up about it he just loved the fact that there was conflict and I was like oh wow that's such like an interesting response because my past response just from being from a kid from a chaotic like childhood or whatever I'd get like super like like I don't know embarrassed or something or like yeah I'd be all feel like oh you know why are they fighting of that whole thing and I it's like such a kid response to it yeah now when you're able to kind of like not take it personally or it doesn't involve you and you know they're having a conflict you know you don't have to
Starting point is 00:52:40 solve it yeah you can kind of sit back and I could see how I don't know if I could ever enjoy it but I could see how he could be relaxed about it Jerry's Mickey has he's eating popcorn as you look over he's having a love in it dude he's so talented man he has this story about growing up in he grew up in New York during the AIDS epidemic or pandemic and he has this wild story about how half of the people in his building when he was a kid died and just how like every couple of weeks he'd come home and another neighbor would have died and just um man it's just fascinating and he's such a gripping when
Starting point is 00:53:17 you you know why he's a good actor because when you were talking to him it is like you are in just an elevator into like another like a elevator that goes forward right into his damn soul yeah he's one of a kind dude that's fun man yeah when I was yeah there he is right there with a guy with Brendan Shaw right there and he's a guy but uh dude it's so funny when I was young I used to feel so much like I'm responsible for everything like no matter like I would feel so much shame like I feel so ashamed of everything that happened like if like one of my family members did something and they was all for something I would feel
Starting point is 00:53:54 like it always like reflected on me like every yeah I was just ashamed of everything I know that's a yeah it's super sucks I used to have this thing where I've I like discovered I was kind of a shame addict I was like an addicted to the feeling of like putting myself in a position where it was like either shameful or like and I didn't want to but I kept putting it like calling into Howard Stern and then having to like apologize to be or even maybe like what I just did with talking about Alyssa or whatever just not meaning to you but it might be a something in me that why do I talk about somebody you know what I
Starting point is 00:54:33 mean I don't know what it is is she gonna get mad I don't know not that I did it for any reason but I don't know why my brain would do it sometimes right where I get into this thing just to be humiliated or something which is a terrible thing to do it's like really painful place to be but dude sometimes it's so funny I would love like I remember one time inviting I had two girlfriends right and a huge rarity in my life and I invited them both to a bar right gosh and I knew it was gonna make me feel I some people think oh this gonna be fun cat fight these girls gonna go at it I just knew in hindsight
Starting point is 00:55:12 looking back I'm gonna feel so fucking bad because I care about both these girls both of them care about me and both everybody's gonna get their heart broken right now and I was just like let's do it yeah but looking back like yeah it's like man yeah I wonder if there's ways where my brain leads me into places to really feel not great about stuff you know without just because of old patterns yeah I do things to blow shit up a lot that seems sounds kind of like that where you do something like with a specific intention of just blowing all the fucking shit like fuck it you know go punk rock there's always
Starting point is 00:55:56 been a little bit of a punk rock vibe I do that with work sometimes man even work stuff yeah you know like cuz I found in the past two years like I like to I don't I really didn't like in some ways working with others in some ways I didn't realize it yeah I just always kind of done things by myself and so I didn't realize until we had to start to work with others a little more that I have to I don't know it's not a reflection of me it's just a group thing and but man I would I had such a just a visceral reaction to it man yeah so I would you know I'd always I don't know I'd get up in the middle of the night and
Starting point is 00:56:28 fucking rattle off an email that's like oh this is like a bomb yeah yeah so that three hours later when everybody wakes up I know I did that stuff too oh it's painful you like a lot of the time you and especially sometimes you're working with the kind of people that do it where they create issues and like problems where there are none just to like have a problem yeah and then you have to deal with the problem I don't know yeah I'm like the David Blaine of complete fucking bullshit like guess what did I fucking bullshit did you ever because you talk a little bit about addiction and think do you talk about
Starting point is 00:57:22 that kind of stuff yeah I mean I've had my battles with it so I've been like on this roller coaster yeah it's a tough ride kind of it's a really tough ride but it's a fun ride though too I think it is I mean it's fun when you learn like I don't know how not to do it I mean it's just beating yourself up my addings just like literally like in my wife asked me do you just want to kill yourself it's like no but there's something inside me that's trying to kill me absolutely has no problem with it you know I mean so you have to like but then also like just not wanting to go there right my personal life like they
Starting point is 00:58:04 got I don't know I like when I first sort of fell off the rails it was kind of public I was like calling now we're starting all the shit and I don't remember any that I don't I don't even know about anything oh thank God yeah oh yeah it's just like completely like like regurgitating my life you know and just like oh yeah but we do that here yeah yeah you do that but it's your own place and it's right like you know you're also not fucked up doing it yeah yeah I would do that dude I had a night was so I ended up on the Opie and Jim Norton they used to have a show yeah Opie and this was after Opie and Anthony in
Starting point is 00:58:49 Sirius it was across from Howard and a lot of times people would do the loop up there and they'd be going right so I ended up one night all cocaine all night driving a taxi the taxi drivers in the back he's in the taxi right wow long night dude great time yeah get to the radio station I have to be on air at 6 a.m. bro can't even I mean can't even feel my fucking face bro with either hand I tried both hands right at first I thought oh something's wrong with this hand you know and then I tried feeling my face with this hand and I knew my something on my face and a Daryl strawberries the other gas oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:59:23 and you good he could help you through yeah anybody can help me through it but man I'm just a little bend game put it behind your ear you'll get your feeling back there I am right there I blasted out of my brain oh my gosh dude I had done enough cocaine a frickin take Daryl strawberry to extra innings bro no doubt no kidding see grinding away to oh man I lost a half inch in my mouth that day I know it's such a big cocaine's a little worse yeah it's the worst really is just I'd say it turns men into mice yeah and it's fun though that's the thing they put a little bit of fun in it yeah I mean it's fun it's just so vapid the
Starting point is 01:00:07 fun yeah it's also like hot air yeah not there's so many better ways to do it but it just takes much a lot more work you know you just have to work to get those highs mm-hmm but it just takes the work to get there and then it's like the culmination of all the work and then you have that fun time and then even the process of doing this stuff can be fun too yeah where you can get that life high yeah yeah yeah no there's definitely a lot I mean there's things I like now about definitely waking up and being able to handle my day oh hell yeah and like open my eyes up have those little moments I'm sure it is with family and
Starting point is 01:00:43 stuff too especially yeah and the more responsibilities I get in my mouth in my life the less I found myself wanting to do stuff like that you know yeah but so with the so are you with the documentary I don't know if I didn't watch because I just don't know how much like you want to share about like give it are you making a push now to get more to get more interesting yeah I don't know I might wrestle more I did it mainly for this documentary so I kind of did what I set out to do right if we wrestle some more I mean I love the world you know I look I like wrestling with RJ City as my tag team partner so I don't know if I
Starting point is 01:01:23 want to do it without like a tag team partner it's a I always got in trouble without a tag team partner yeah yeah unless it was with the pro like coca-cabana or something and here's a guy right here he's probably alone what deal what's up David Seth from Kentucky here and my question for David is who has more fun in the wrestling community heels or faces you know do you get to have more fun being that bad guy or do you have more fun being the face of it all gang gang gang that's a good question yeah it is a good question the heels definitely have more fun within it like it's just you know heels represent
Starting point is 01:02:03 like being chicken shits being like backstabbers having no spine you can just say the worst things you can just do all this stuff you can just when you come from a place of that it's weird when people get mixed up like some people get mixed up like they might be the heel but they want to be tough in the match too mm-hmm and it doesn't work as well if you're like it the audience gets more invested if you cheat to like hurt them or you do something like so if you do a heel behavior yeah gonna be a heel be a heel yeah yeah exactly so yeah and then really be a heel so much so is like being chicken about stuff or cheating to
Starting point is 01:02:47 win or like all that kind of stuff it happens a lot man it's really just a reflection of life you know yeah it's just such a right it's such a like whatever I think it's called a Greek play or something where they do plays and it's you know in Greece or something and they you know it's like good and evil you know it's just like that man yeah for sure but I would love to see you beat the shit out of a mystic Rick though yeah yeah dude you guys have a little like a little promotion or something is it does he have a belt or the deal called him out and he never responded oh really reckon called him out and he never
Starting point is 01:03:27 responded man we had a belt that started years ago when they have a podcast called the fighter in the kid yeah and they had a vote on their podcast for best guest or one of the best guests in the year and that guy got a belt so once the belt came into it came that's the origin story the belt and then you know we started taking on different characters and you know just you know I kind of like most of our fan base is really a bunch of rats you know not bad rats but just like underdogs you know yeah yeah cheese hunters you know so yeah I feel it what else do you want to talk about you think did you ever do
Starting point is 01:04:09 any jail time no I never had a mug shot I've been pretty careful about certain things I've been wild but you give a wreck a car really really no I never drove always I mean I've driven once in a while but I avoided it all very yeah yeah that's one of the main things that's really good then yeah yeah I never wanted to get a situation where I hurt anybody yeah do you think um do you think that um yeah I just wonder if I could handle one of those prisons or not you know you think you'd be good in prison I don't know man I would hate to have to have to deal with it but you know we did a documentary called survivors guide to
Starting point is 01:05:00 prison mm-hmm which was really cool we produced it with Danny Trejo was a Matthew Cook film it was really great my wife really produced it but that taught us a lot about the prison system you know you know how corrupted it is and how it needs to be changed but actually being in there that would be something else I mean I I taught a acting class at San Quentin a couple times yeah yeah yeah some good actors in there it was cool it was it was weird I didn't do this improvisational game called animal transformation where you pick an animal and then you transform it into like all right let's put you know your giraffe
Starting point is 01:05:39 and your run rhinoceros yeah I was about to say Ryan Reynolds but you bring them up to like human form but still maintain the characteristics so like this dude would be up you know like a rhino or whatever and there goes up to the giraffe but it was like kind of aggressive because rhinos seem aggressive and then the guard was like stop stop stop you gotta stop and he explained to me like they could get into this little acting thing right here but then they could go out and like getting a huge fight on the yard if if like someone disrespects each other and there's like all this code and all this stuff so I'd
Starting point is 01:06:25 hate to have to learn that stuff but you know I get by but do you think when you think about prison like do you think what parts of prison you think you would enjoy I don't know man like you like a small room I like a small room I like characters so I'm sure there'd be some characters in there that I gotta hit it I like the kind of joking that happens in places like that or at school or like you know places where people are all hanging out and kind of not bored but have time on their hands or it's just like hanging out with your homies like yeah you know when you're growing up the guys you grew up with the way you can
Starting point is 01:07:03 joke with them it's like you know a great feeling yeah why do we lose that as we get older at this I mean that disappears doesn't it in a lot of ways it does you have to kind of stick with those guys you have you when you go back home you probably have friends like that right yeah I'm on a couple text chains like that but you never can really replicate that just that childhoodness of it where somebody doesn't have to now people have responsibilities and somebody you know yeah they were somebody money or there's some bullshit or something yeah totally but I love Brody that's yeah man one of a kind he just had a birthday
Starting point is 01:07:42 the other day really yeah he's awesome I knew him for a while we hired him on a show called midnightly news to form up the audience like back in shit back in the 90s or something did you hear he one thing that I loved about him was his I think he just always had this ability like to make you feel kind of he was such a loner almost he was such like a scared dude but he always would like really kind of go out of his way to kind of make you feel included you know man talk about being a loving person but finding it really hard I feel like to express how your love in like normal ways and stuff yeah totally he was a warrior
Starting point is 01:08:31 man I can't I still cannot believe that it that suicide it's just crazy how it just sneaks in yeah like in an instant almost yeah it's sad and people can't do it anymore yeah but I also get it sometimes man I get it but there's like you have to fight through these the hard times because there is beauty on the other side yeah this is really dark time right now just in general a lot of people are scared a lot of people are losing loved ones and you don't know where there's you know other bills are gonna get paid from so it's really scary at this time but you have to know that it we will make it through this yeah
Starting point is 01:09:12 and we will have your fun on the other side and there's little things that come like as you get older that are really beautiful little things and it's just literally like catching you know tadpoles with your kids or like the wind on your hair like you know you get appreciation for certain things getting a snack anything I know when you can really like sit there like oh this is great taste great like yeah you're like in a place where you're like you're taking a moment to appreciate the grape yeah it's like oh this is different because you're not like as wound up about the world yeah man it's tough dude I
Starting point is 01:09:50 made a gratitude list this morning I'm trying to get back more in a gratitude you know just be thankful for the little things that's the best that's such a key it gets so tricky yeah I think so yeah I feel like so yeah after watching the doc I felt like it was it's really kind of a I guess it really does kind of stand as a story of like setting a goal and kind of do you feel like it's getting a monkey off your back a little bit I mean it definitely you know what the thing I learned was that it was me like I had this one therapy session with my therapist and I was like talking about my mom and dad and how heavy like their
Starting point is 01:10:31 marriage or relationship was and then I was like wait they're both dead it's like literally this heaviness is just inside me and they're gone so like the work to live for that was really helpful you're like David Duchovny but I feel like the X files are on the inside we all have to figure out all this stuff going on inside it's so crazy bro how much crazy baggage we carry man I know man yeah and then I will swim in it I will make a fucking swimming pool out of my baggage and then dive right yeah I know when there's tons of other things to go do like hey come get on this waterslide come get on this fairs well
Starting point is 01:11:13 like I just made this amazing swimming pool with all my own bullshit yeah let's just go in there for a while oh it gets to me after a while what else we got Nick we had a written question that came in it said when will we see Chuck Hank in the San Diego Twins you're telling me this is a movie I did like eight years ago and it still hasn't come out I just have no idea it was so I was so impressed by this group of filmmakers cuz they all had cameras they're all shooting I was like you have like eight cameras like nobody has eight cameras unless you're doing a sitcom and then so they're shooting it and they're like
Starting point is 01:11:50 having all these angles they're all filmmakers they're all editors and then the movie disappears for years there's rumor that it's still gonna be done but I just don't know what cause what causes that kind of stuff when something disappears what cause that could have been any kind of things usually like there's a falling out between the filmmakers and then one person's either in charge of it and then just doesn't like complete it or there's just tied up so they're sort of push-pulling I don't know there's all kinds of things yeah what about you what are you interested in doing like I think about
Starting point is 01:12:26 getting a I'm thinking about getting a dang dog recently yeah man that's a real that's a beautiful thing have you had one before oh no kidding like you know what kind of dog you've been looking I think like a one like a everybody's kind of has like a labradoodle right now yeah so I've been thinking about that kind of I feel like they have nice like kind of eyebrows kind of but yeah but you need a bigger dog for any reason I don't really I was thinking also a black lab then I also a friend of mine has a doxin weiner dog yeah man he was nice yeah dogs are the differences big dogs are dope because they're big dogs and
Starting point is 01:13:02 like they're I don't know but little dogs are amazing too I've had both little dogs are just fun because for someone like you you can almost bring them anywhere yeah and then you become the guy with the dog but that's the whole thing but if you love this dog he's really easy and he can be here in like it might be like fun for you yeah bigger dogs are harder to bring like they're harder to bring on trips they're just harder to manage but they're incredible I don't we have four basset hounds which is oh they're big that's like a rich old-looking dog they're big dogs them like medium-sized dogs but
Starting point is 01:13:39 they got little dog legs so short to the ground oh basset hounds have the long with the long ears yeah yeah yeah yeah those are fun dogs oh yeah those are good southern dogs too yeah I wouldn't mind I'm trying to think of baby what to get I don't know I went to I went to a man's house yesterday and he had two bunnies too yeah that's cool but that's a big responsibility is that what you're kind of like yeah I'm thinking about that you know now there you go right there that's beautiful yeah oh look that undercarriage I think that's some real meat on them yeah they have rolls of skin when they're real basset hounds but
Starting point is 01:14:15 they're pretty well behaved yeah I mean some of like they're all individuals so some of them are better behaved than others I mean they all have their own personalities but you know they howl and bark a lot these guys so some of them don't as much but that's just something to think about if you're you have to leave them in your apartment or house for a little while yeah I'm not barking can be a whole thing or like get babysitters or yeah that's what I would think maybe get in a frame with the yard or something yeah but yeah what else I don't know I want to check some Brazilian jiu-jitsu actually yeah man
Starting point is 01:14:49 that's amazing do you have a guy I don't have a guy but we have a guy Eddie Bravo that trains people you did oh that's dope he's dope but we don't know but I don't know I train with Higgin Machado during this whole thing oh he's amazing bro so you've taken it yeah you enjoy it just not like right belts or anything but just for exercising hell yes it's important to learn that shit yeah that's what I want to learn just I think like kind of working on that confidence that inner confidence of just you know feeling a little more comfortable yes that's what any of that stuff will do for you like I I it's
Starting point is 01:15:24 funny that I got a brown belt in Yoshikai karate but it was I never got a black belt and like one more thing that my sensei moved to Florida so I'm like stuck with the brown belt but it's kind of perfect but what it does teach you like once you get into it and you're like training a lot and doing it as an exercise and stuff like your balance and everything you're like you learn all this kind of like little ancient tricks with life that are just like really kind of cool when you learn all the like katas and all the stuff it'll just prepare you for kind of stuff like that and then jiu-jitsu is a whole other
Starting point is 01:16:08 beast which is amazing it's so fucking cool yeah it seems cool I just always have this dream like I'm somewhere you know I'm at a subway or something I didn't want to go but somebody took me you know because I don't like it but and then somebody like some guys like hey you know what the fuck is wrong with you you know and I'll be like that you know and then next thing you know I have to fucking defend myself dude first of all man I don't really probably want to be in a fight second of all I do not want to fight in a subway bro you know what I'm saying like at least beat my ass out of five guys you know so but I want to
Starting point is 01:16:45 be able to at least like know that if something happens like I don't have to feel like I don't have a chance you know yeah that's I feel like that when I was young that's always the feeling that I had man every kid was like tougher than me I felt like it so I know that feeling I was like I don't have a chance dude I'm gonna go hide in this tree or I do something fucking gig but make a kite or something like wouldn't the fuck is wrong with this kid you know yeah nowadays you have to be careful fighting just cuz some people like a lot of people do know that kind of stuff and oh yeah everything going on Henry so who
Starting point is 01:17:15 don't you know if you saw Henry say who though somewhere regularly you'd beat him with a stick probably no candy come out bring a picture of him but he is a legend you know yeah I mean he's you know is he undefeated no he lost to Demetrius once and then he I think that might be his only lost he beat Demetrius the second time but even if you just get a picture of him Nick that's him right there I was trying to get him like one where he's not or how tall he is I mean I think he's five two oh yeah but he's the I mean he won three belts I think oh man that's tough that's tough yeah there he is compared to some other guys some
Starting point is 01:18:05 white no kid yeah that's actually the big show big shows on these seven feet have you ever been slammed by any of those real big guys you bully Ray slam me through a table hell yeah put my hips out yeah that's what my back like what would happen with me it's like either my neck or my back would go out constantly so then I'd just be jacked up for the next week or so it sucks oh it's so brutal support and would you get those shots would you get some shots to help it no I wish like they probably have that stuff at WWE but then the independent circuit they don't even have that ambulance they hopefully will have
Starting point is 01:18:46 like a first aid kit well yeah on the independent circuit man I were growing up they had some dudes bus fighting man it would be people in their backyard and this is before people need a videotape if people would draw a picture of it and show it you know this is back and fun and people would just put a bunch of picnic table I mean it was choppy it was just extremely dangerous too but you know people step dad's and family disputes one man threw another man into a damn ditch fire by us one time pretty cool man oh yeah fires intense what else we got Nick I had a question about like the independent wrestling circus is it
Starting point is 01:19:27 still like kind of the Wild Wild West with like some of the performance enhancers because I watched ready to rumble last night just because of this and mr. perfect Kurt Henning macho man and then I don't think me and Jean was out of anything but all three of those guys have passed away and it's like it seems like there's not wrestlers that get over like 60 or whatever and you keep hearing Bob dying is it still like kind of that unhealthy well obviously it's bad for your body too but yeah I feel like the steroids back in the day definitely played part for sure I don't know like how many like house prevalent steroids
Starting point is 01:20:03 are I think when John Cena came up it was like real like from that point on there was real more of a focus on body and like strength training and working out also some of the guys kind of the stature guys kind of fell down so it's not as like big giant but there's a few guys that are really super buff and I don't know if they take anything or not I never did I just I always like the kind of body that like a Bruce Lee has where it's more ripped than anything you know what I mean and if you can lose enough weight you got muscles under there so once you lose the fat it kind of looks bigger anyway yeah and then you
Starting point is 01:20:42 learn little things like you know eating protein right you know right after you within the first half hour of doing weight helps a lot to build muscle but yeah he's like the baddest and he's not like huge but he's did you ever meet him no I never got to meet him but we were huge fans growing up and I met his daughter who was really nice really was he hot beautiful she's just sweet just yeah she was just like has like a cool like air to earn you can tell you got to be can you imagine being Bruce Lee's daughter and you're just fucking you know a dick I mean there's some people that just get caught up with this whole
Starting point is 01:21:28 world I know I know I bet especially in the world that you've seen man really being in the Hollywood it gets really kind of vapid out there yeah it does I mean there's a lot of shit that happens I've been in the business 30 years so that's crazy yeah I mean how old are you I'm 40 years old oh yeah you see me so young so I'm getting older man I'm an adult now and 40 it's a cool it's a cool way so it's when stuff starts not you'll get you figure your world out yeah I like the idea of stuff not having being so straight like you know not being so serious yeah I think that battle always that'll go on forever I
Starting point is 01:22:11 mean especially just dogs and kids and all that stuff if you want to have them there's just there's a lot of shit that comes with them but then there's also like the most silliest stuff you'll ever do you know I mean which is then becomes the funnest stuff you'll ever experience yeah when you look back on on being on being a wrestling champion do you look back on it fondly yeah I mean I'm just to be part of this world the world that I always loved I look at that fondly you know you know and with all my griping about stuff it's you know it's wrestling so I use it all in the movie yeah I mean I mean I'm a fan of Eddie
Starting point is 01:22:54 Kaufman's that's part of this whole thing you know what I mean it's just part of what are the things that I love right so it's like I I do look at it fondly I mean especially with sort of coming back in and like who knows if this is the end of it you know who knows if there will be some other kind of wrestling adventures yeah what do you see do you are there other I mean do you still have a lot of stuff obviously you want to get into stuff that you can make more that's your own yeah do you feel like get yourself getting more motivated towards that kind of yeah for sure I mean that's what I do with my spare time in
Starting point is 01:23:28 between waiting for something or auditioning for something just sort of yeah work on projects that I believe in and have you done any movies in space man I could really see you in space I would love to love that I mean how cool how cool would be to be like the first film shot in space that would be the baddest yeah I think it would be I mean I don't know space we keep going to see shitholes man Mars the moon like he's like I'm no fucking I'm no real estate agent well these I don't know why the moon they don't already have like a Disney world up there I know nobody would like it be upsetting yeah some
Starting point is 01:24:08 people but I think it'd be amazing oh I think something small you could stop in at least a rest area you know but yeah it seems like we keep going to these shitholes bro Mars is a let's be honest bro places a shithole I'm not a real estate agent but every picture you see it's like this place is garbage dude there's fire everywhere there's no place you can even fucking you can't even you couldn't even have an outdoors it's just I don't know Palm Springs yeah it's like they can build it up it's like Palm Springs dirty grandfather yeah you know it's just like why don't we let's find a decent planet or quit fucking around man
Starting point is 01:24:48 you know spend the money send a shuttle in the fucking Zaire and let's fucking the habitat over there you know like I just feel like if we need to work more locally look at this and you got dumb chicks and dudes and chudes out there sitting around saying oh man think we'll ever live on Mars like idiots at a fucking bar somewhere you know you got one-third of the BW Buffalo Wild Wings population sitting there four beers deep man wonderful ever live on Mars you know place a shithole man sorry I just know Mars yeah anybody's gonna be here when I felt like this but it's just kind of just making me mad man we just got
Starting point is 01:25:34 bigger fish to fry dude but I want to see some more of these promos I want to see more of these wrestlers cut promos I want to see more politicians cut promos yeah dude I'm telling you one politician puts out a dope-ass wrestling promo I feel like it they would get all the votes they would get a lot of votes I had one friend who was voted for Trump because he he provided you know WrestleMania at his casinos I was like you can't vote for him for that reason though you just can't not for that reason dude it's crazy I mean he the whole world is so crazy his wife looked Melania looks hot though I gotta say
Starting point is 01:26:08 that man yeah you know people act like she's not hot like yeah I'll pretend a lot of stuff but I'm not gonna pretend that yeah I can imagine I mean you have to have people have to present you a lot of times the projects where they're like you would be perfect for this huh was there a point where you didn't want to really do some of that stuff no not really I mean when you get hot you get like a lot of offers so then it's like you have to kind of sift through the right and the good stuff but when you're not you just kind of like are trying to find good projects to work on yeah that's typically low budget things that you
Starting point is 01:26:46 don't get paid for you never know how they're really gonna turn out if they ever come out at all yeah yeah I've been offered a couple of real wild animals man but yeah I don't know man we'll see you know yeah I would love to do something where you know a friend of mine a black friend of mine said that black people and aliens don't get along well or there's beef there's a new there's or there's like beef in that community and so I'm like yeah so I'm like wondering how do we get that film you know I'll be like some guy just like you know some guy that works for the United Nations or whatever but I'm just
Starting point is 01:27:31 thinking how do we get to see that you know cuz I'm ready to see that that's good you know I get a treatment of outline than a script yeah brothers versus aliens dude I'm ready there's no way I wouldn't watch that so all right well David I appreciate you coming in man yeah your comedy and appreciate you well I definitely remember like the day that you said hey to me at the gym and made me feel really good I remember telling one of my friends like dude I got to meet David Arquette today was awesome but yeah I was happy to watch the documentary man I'll watch the end now that I know it's safe to and and you
Starting point is 01:28:11 guys love to check out you cannot kill David Arquette thank you so much and just stay alive I guess right and we'll see a sequel that's it I'll be alive I can't I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking brake and left myself on my I'll sit and tell you and I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my past and these wheels that I've been riding on they want something that they're damn they're gone now cuz now they just won't be able to

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