This Past Weekend - E306 Robert F Kennedy Jr

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

Theo sits down with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to talk about falconry, the need for healthy debate, and the new Covid-19 Pfizer vaccine.    New Merch https://theovonstore.com    This episode is brought to you: RayCon: Visit https://buyraycon.com/theo for 15% off Blue Chew: https://bluechew.com and use promo code THEO Modiphy: https://modiphy.com/theo for a free demo Magic Mind: https://magicmind.co and use promo code THEO for 10% off   Music: “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn      Hit the Hotline  985-664-9503   Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline    Find Theo Website: https://theovon.com  Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend  Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw       Producer Nick https://instagram.com/realnickdavis      47:35        See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to name a few things. He's outspoken, he's, I mean, he just knows so much. He's like, I mean, he's just like wandering through a library. It is my friend, Mr. Robert Kennedy, Jr. He's like, I mean, he's just like wandering through a library. We didn't have, like by us, we had a lot of cranes, you know? I actually thought about you a couple weeks ago.

I was down in, it was my first time going to this place called Yiskalski. It's down like, like the fishing villages off of like New Orleans, it's probably about 30 minutes away. And they pronounce it a little bit different because I think it's like super Polish, the word or something. It starts with like a couple of different Ys. And so it's like, it's kind of hard to pronounce,

but I got down there and I saw egrets, I saw cranes, I saw a couple of owls, you know, and I actually thought about you because I know that you care about the animals so much and stuff like that. Yeah, well, I've just spent a lot of time in the Achevalaya, which is, you know, near where you are. Between Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Yeah, and that's one of the biggest staging zones

for the migrations of, you know, the waterfowl and, you know, a lot of the other migratory birds that are about to go down to Latin America. I think it's actually the biggest wetland in North America. It's bigger than the Everglades. But we started talking, you and I started talking about this because I did type Mike Tyson's. Yeah, Hot Boxing.

Hot Boxing. And you were asking me how I was. And he's very subdued. You know, I really, I love him. He's very, very subdued. But we ended up talking a lot about pigeons because he was a pigeon guy. That's how he kind of started.

He got a fight. He got in a fight over somebody who stole his pigeon. That was the first time he ever hit anybody. Oh, damn. And that's kind of a famous story. But he's a pigeon fancier. And I grew up with pigeons. I started racing on humming pigeons

when I was seven years old. So was that big? Because I remember I went to the spy museum one time in Philadelphia. And they had pigeons that had like a little briefcase on their arm, you know? They had pigeon will have like a little, can you bring that up to Nick?

They'll have pigeons that even will have like a little backpack on, you know, and they used to use them for spy work. Yeah, they have. Yes, actually. And in fact, they used them for, well, of course, they've always been a military asset because they would use them to communicate, you know, before they had telephones and walkie-talkies.

And in fact, they used them right up until World War I. And they really use them? Like, if you do it, like, what can you tell a pigeon and he'll go? Well, you can't tell him anything. But the pigeon will always go back to the first place that he saw daylight. Oh, if you raise a pigeon, if you get an adult pigeon,

you buy a pigeon a pigeon auction. And a really big homer classic these days, people pay a million dollars for a good homer. For a good homer pigeon, please. They rate them by miles. So if you're a 1,000-mile bird, you're worth a lot of money. Back when I was a kid, we would pay a couple. Yeah, those are called blue bars.

OK. And those are Hungarians, which is the kind that I use to raise. And we would put them in a train. And the train, with all the other, you know, we had a pigeon club and all the other people would put them in a train right outside of my home in Virginia. And the train would go down to Delaware. And the conductor would then release them all at once.

And when your pigeon came back to your coop, you would take his band off and run down to the post office and have it time stamped. And that's how they would do the races, yeah. And so the pigeon, they'll know. So the first place it sees daylight is the place it'll always come back to. It'll always come back to.

So if you buy a pigeon at an auction or whatever, you have to keep that pigeon locked up for the rest of his life. Because if he ever gets out, he'll go back to the place where he was born. And the military, like a hot woman kind of, you know, the military, they taught them how to go to a, they would have a little, a coop on wheels. And they would teach them to go to that coop

and they would keep moving the coop so that the pigeon would learn to find the coop. So it's not going back to a, you know, to a stationary barn. Wow. And in fact, during World War I, the, they knew where all of the falcon, falcons, which I moved to falconry when I was about 10 years old. Is that early to be moving to that?

Or is that where you like, yeah, where is it? Well, that's when I found out about it. And there would, there happened to be a guy who lived near me, who was one of the pioneers of American falconry. And I read a book about it. My uncle was in the White House. And, and I, and people were talking about Camelot. And I read a book about Camelot by T.H. White,

who was a British author, who was also a falconer. And he has, and that, that book was called The Once and Future King. He later made it into a Disney, you know, movie called The Sword and the Stone. Oh, wow. But there's a chapter in there on falconry. And I read that chapter and I just said,

this is what I want to do with my life. And as it happened, there was a guy who had been an all-American football player at Penn State. He lived about a mile from my house. His name was Alvin I. And he was one of the pioneers of American falconry. And my father knew about him because whenever he worked as a, as a designer of jets, at the Pentagon.

Of jets? Yeah. He was designing jets and he was an engineer. And one of the things that the State Department knew about him, because whenever they were visiting Arab dignitaries who came to Washington, the Arabs are all crazy about falconry. Really?

Yeah, it's crazy about it. And that's falcons, right? Yeah, that's falcons. So falcon is, I mean, so when you moved up to falcons, were you just, I mean, I can imagine, if you leave in Pigeon, you probably left them behind, huh? Well, actually Pigeons remain are kind of part

of the sport of falconry. Okay. You use pigeons and all in different parts of the sport. So I kept pigeons, I had pigeons all of my life until really until I moved to California six years ago, I kept pigeons. But I still have hawks at, you know, back in New York. I have my falconry license out here,

but I never brought them out here. I got involved in surfing and, you know, a lot of other stuff and it just wasn't as easy here. But, yeah, so this guy, I apprenticed under this guy under Alvin and I, beginning when I was about 11 years old and then at that time there was no regulation. They passed regulations in 1973 and then you had to get a license.

And, you know, I was, I actually wrote the test at Falkner's take in New York state and elsewhere to get their license. And I've been involved in it my whole life. So would you compete? Like once you have this knowledge in this, so you're, you're learning and like, what is the man teaching you when you learn from the,

from Mr, what was his name again, Smith? He's teaching you how to, how to trap the hawk, how to care for it, how to treat it when it gets sick. And of course how to train it and then hunt with it. You're hunting my birds. Take, I fly mainly Harris hawks and I've flown to every kind of hawk, but nowadays I fly mainly Harris hawks.

They're very easy and they're very, very fun and they hunt in groups. They're very sociable. They seem to be, you know, what you and I would interpret as affectionate towards humans. And they're almost like dogs. So when you take them to hunt, I mean, I grew up raising a hamster.

I didn't mean to be talking about this. No, it's fascinating, man. Because, so let's see a Harris hawk. I just want to see what this even looks like. And now when you take them to train or something, what do they do? There she is. When you take them to hunt with them, like,

Okay. You be, they're in a cage or on your arm? No, actually they'll ride on the backseat of the car. Unbelievable. And then I knew that. And they'll hunt, you knew that. I mean, I just had an inkling. If I look like that, man, I'm definitely, you know,

I'm not driving, I'm definitely getting a ride. And they, they're really just like dogs. When you get to the place where you're hunting, you let them out of the car and they'll usually jump up and sit for a second in an orient on the roof of the car. And then when you, as you start walking through the woods, they'll follow you. Okay.

Yeah. And then I use, I hunt with dogs too. I have a couple of dogs who will be, you know, looking for rabbits and squirrel and peasant and turkey. And when they, and when something moves, they'll chase it. Okay. So if you say, when you're walking through the woods, they'll what, just be kind of going from tree to tree.

They know that you're their owner the whole time. Yeah, they go to tree to tree. They stay in the canopy above your head. And they know that you're going to kick up game. So, you know, they, they know, they learn and they learn. Like I, the bird that I was flying until recently, I had for 24 years. And then every year I would breed that bird

and get some eggs and babies out of them. And, you know, those birds are now all over New York state and all over the, at least all over the East coast. He's, you're working at the grassroots level of helping the environment if you are breeding birds. Like I said, I, you know, it was a passion for me from when I was, when I was really little. Man, yeah, cause we were, I grew up,

I used to sell hamsters when I was growing up. And we used to, you know, the big ones around us was a Roborovski hamsters. We bring that up, Nick. This is in Louisiana. Yeah. And we used to sell hamsters and guinea pigs or G pigs. They used to call them.

Well, they eat those down there. Yeah. Yeah. They call them Kuys in Latin America or Ecuador. Oh, you get down to, oh, you get down to Ecuador, bro. You take a, you take a gerbil anywhere south of Paraguay. And it's a wrap, you know? I mean, Nicaragua, you show up with one of these bad boys.

I think it's Thanksgiving, you know? But we have a different affinity for animals now. I feel like if it looks cute, or if it's been marketed as cute, it becomes not a food anymore, you know? Once things get marketed as being too cute. So you'll get there. The truth, it's not a good food, in my opinion, anyhow.

Yeah. And I, you know, when I, when I, I spent a lot of time in Ecuador and I lived in Peru for a while and I ended up eating a lot of guinea pigs. I went to a restaurant, I took Cheryl to a restaurant where they were selling them for food and they had them. You know, how the, when you go into a seafood restaurant,

New England, and they have all the lobsters in the tank and you can pick the one and they're alive in there. Well, they had one of those with a, they had this really cute guinea pig house and you could pick the guinea pig you were eating. And, you know, Cheryl is just. Broke her heart. Yeah, broke her heart.

Hopefully it wasn't violent. That wasn't violent. No, it wasn't. Well, so, so, so very similar to the lobster in the tank, they just had these guinea pigs just like in a big, like kind of a children's like playhouse or something kind of little deal. It was a multi-storied playhouse

with little balconies on it. And it looked like an apartment building for guinea pigs. And there's no way they look like little people in there. And there's no way that he would ever eat one of those. But some people are rolling in and being like, oh, that's the one? Yeah. That's amazing, man.

Yeah, we never had any that I've had owl. I've had some wild meats. People that have like a, my sister's family will grill up anything that's dead. So we've had owl. We've had like, what else did we have? Roadkill type. What, owl?

Roadkill, yeah. No, they'll have like yard chicken. Just chickens that they've raised in their yards. I'm trying to think of what else that I've had that was probably, you know, kind of unique growing up snake. Sometimes somebody, I used to work on a farm for a couple of years

and people would kill a snake. And sometimes if somebody had enough time, they would cook it at lunch. You must be an alligator because that's not all the menus down there. Yeah, I've been alligator. Frog was really, you know, when I was young, it was fun to give a kid some frog, you know?

At the restaurants, they used to have a lot of these kind of singing kind of, they had like this kind of black group of gentlemen that were like a quartet and they would sing. And then at the end of the thing, they would give all the kids a little bit of frog, you know? It was just like something like fancy kind of restaurant we would go to like when my parents

were having an anniversary or something. But man, that's wild though. I don't know. I've never met anybody that knew how to hunt with a hawk. I mean, that's pretty. And do hawks have a, or with a falcon, does a falcon have an arch nemesis in nature? Well, falcons get eaten a lot by eagles.

Unbelievable. And then at night there, they get eaten by owls because they can't see anything at night. And that's why you put a hood on them because once it gets dark, they just get calm because there's nothing they can do about anything. Wow. Their eyes are adapted for seeing both microscopically

and telescopically during the daytime. And, but they're almost incapable of seeing anything at night, but a lot of the Western falconers when they, you know, they hunt sage grouse and they have to hunt early in the morning because their birds will get eaten by eagles. When the bird goes down on a sage grouse, the eagle will see that from miles away

and go down and eat both the grouse and the hawk. I know those are, you know, 80% of hawks die during their first year. It's hard for them to figure out how to hunt. And they, you know, only the really smart and lucky ones survive. A lot of them, they have a lot of nemesis. It's mainly owls and eagles.

So you're growing up. So you guys, so take me back also to the pigeon thing. So you would take a pigeon, you would let it go, you would put it on a train. Yeah, we put it on the train. And it was like a pigeon club you were in. Yes. So everybody have a pigeon, they put it on the train,

it goes to somewhere, maybe down to the beach or somewhere, wherever it takes it, myrtle beach or something. And then they let it loose. Right. You know, like maybe a hundred miles, the really good pigeons would go two or three hundred miles. If you, you know, if you had a 500 mile homer,

that's what you would brag about. Damn. That's like having like one of those big marbles that does like a steely marley. Wow. That's fascinating, man. So now whoever got theirs back first, did they kind of win the contest?

Yeah, they win. I see. That's amazing, man. I can't even imagine that. I can't even, because I think I would not have enough trust in my heart that I would believe that that bird was ever going to come back. It must have lifted your spirits when it got back.

You don't take them a hundred miles away the first time you do it. I would take them to school one morning and let them go. And go on the weekends farther and farther away and, you know, make sure that they come back. That's fascinating, man. Dude, so what was, so when I picture like, you know, they didn't have any Kennedys on our street growing up.

And so I picture, if I ever thought of a Kennedy, you know, I thought of like, you know, you guys have like really nice dishes, like nice, you know, cupboard, silver, crabs, you know, everything. Like was it like May Poles? I picture like people constantly like just dancing in the yard. Like was it, what was it?

What was it? Come on, man. That's just what I picture. I'm just telling you. My house was chaos. I had 11 brothers and sisters and, you know, I had a very, very, you know, I had a wonderful life, but a lot of outdoor stuff.

My parents would lock us out in the morning and we weren't allowed to come in until the night. And we spent a lot of time, particularly in the summer. I had, you know, I had my 11 brothers and sisters, 29 cousins, we all lived together. And, you know, there was a lot of mayhem, a lot of laughter and just outdoor, you know, outdoors, fishing, skiing, scuba diving.

And when the older kids teach to the younger kids, was that kind of how it went? Was there? That's amazing, man. Yeah, I can't even imagine that. I mean, it just seems like, yeah, cause I guess I just always thought about it as, and did it feel like you guys were like so separate

from the world of your parents? Cause they were living in like a, more of like a political world. No, with everything was, you know, we, we felt, we were included in everything. I was, you know, the first time that I came to California was for the 1960 convention. And I saw my uncle get inaugurated

and then I flew back on the airplane with him and sat next to him on the plane. But my father would, you know, my home was in Virginia, but at that time you could get to the Justice Department in about eight or nine minutes if you were driving fast. And so my father would come home at night and he would talk about integrating the University of Alabama or, you know, whatever the issues of the day,

what was any, you know, we were always included and then we visited him the white. And at the Justice Department, I one day, my uncle invited me to spend the morning with him in the White House in the Oval Office. We were, you know, we were part of all of the, I sat behind a couch during the Cuban Missile Crisis and, you know, listen to my, our house was kind of a,

satellite White House, cause my father was the attorney general and he was the president's chief advisor. We were a mile away from the CIA headquarters and Langley and my father at that time was, you know, was involved with a, trying to get the CIA to behave. And so all of that, you know, there were green berets at our house, there were Cuban refugees. There was, you know, the entire milieu of that period was.

Damn, look at the DMV, it sounds like, you know, I mean, it just has, you know, it's like, it just sounds like so much going on. It was every Friday when we were at the Cape, it would be three helicopters that would land, marine helicopters that would land on our lawn every Friday. And my uncle would get off President Kennedy. My father, who was the attorney general,

my uncle, Sarge driver, who was the director of the Peace Corps, my uncle, Ted Kennedy, who was in the Senate already at that time, and my uncle Steve Smith, who was chief of staff, and the White House would move to our house for the weekend. And, you know, there was always interesting people there. And we had, after 1962, my uncle developed this very close relationship with, with Khrushchev.

And the CIA was baffled by Khrushchev because they had never been able to get a spy into the Kremlin. There was a mole in the CIA, and to this day, they don't know who it was. And every time they got a high-level spy in the Kremlin, he would immediately be killed because the mole at Langley was telling him who it was.

So they really had no clue what Khrushchev was like or whether it was a monolithic, whether the Kremlin was monolithic and everybody was thinking the same, which was kind of the assumption. And so he came to visit you guys? He never visited us, no, but he exchanged, he exchanged letters with my uncle secretly.

He didn't want the KGB or the GRU to find out he was writing my uncle. And he, and my uncle was again, they both figured out that they were both at war with the military and intelligence apparatus with which they were surrounded. Oh, I see what you're saying. So it's like they didn't know who to trust.

And you know, Khrushchev had been a war hero. He had run the defense of Stalingrad on Earth, Stalingrad actually tried to purge him at one point, and the only reason he didn't was because Khrushchev was running the defense of Stalingrad and he couldn't reach him. Because, you know, when Hitler was trying to attack Stalingrad, which is one of the worst battles,

one of the most brutal battles in human history and one of the most expensive battles in terms of human life, and Khrushchev had no desire to go to war. His first meeting with my uncle was a couple of, was about a month after my uncle took office and they met at Geneva. And my uncle went into that meeting with very high hopes

that he could make peace and they could begin dismantling the nuclear arsenal on both sides. Khrushchev had met him very pugnaciously and had been bombastic and had given him a lecture about imperialism and said that he was ready for war and he was really kind of in his pace.

And my uncle went home from that meeting, very depressed. And then a year and a half later, there was a confrontation when the Soviets were building the wall in Berlin because they were hemorrhaging people. Everybody was trying to get out of East Germany and come onto the western side, which the US controlled.

And Khrushchev built a wall there and his Joint Chiefs of Staff saw this as an opportunity. They wanted to go to war with the Russians. They believed that at that point in history, we had the nuclear advantage. The Russians would soon catch up with us. So the President's Chief of Staff wanted to go to war? Well, his Joint Chiefs, which was the military

and the leaders of the CIA wanted to, they wanted, they saw the war as inevitable and that the sooner the better because the US was at a big military advantage in terms of its nuclear arsenal at that time. And my uncle and Khrushchev's Joint Chiefs were basically in the same position. They were spoiling for a war.

My uncle, who was also a veteran and had, you know, had a, had seen his men die, had three of his men on his PT boat killed when it was run over by a Japanese destroyer. And then, you know, he had been lost at sea for 10 days hiding out on a little island with the Japanese searching for him. And he mistrusted the brass.

He had been lied to by Alan Dulles at the very beginning. He knew Dulles had lied to him and fired Alan Dulles, fired the top three guys at the CIA and no longer trusted his military. And he realized that he was in the same boat with Khrushchev. Oh, in 1962, Khrushchev built the wall and one of Jack's generals, Lucius Clay, mounted bulldozer plows on the front of tanks

and went to push down the wall and the Russians met him on the other side at checkpoint Charlie with their own squadron of tanks. And my uncle sent a secret message to Khrushchev at that point saying, you know, please withdraw your tanks. And I promised that when you do that, we will, which ours within 20 minutes. And he said, my back is against the wall.

I have no place to retreat. And my uncle and father believed that there would be, that they lived for a lot of their administration believing that the military may commit a coup against them. That their own military? Yeah, so the U.S. They couldn't trust the CIA. Because they believed that, yeah, right, exactly.

Their military, you know, was Daniel Ellsberg who was working in the Pentagon at that time said that it was, you know, that the atmosphere in the Pentagon was one of coup d'etat, of rebellion, that they believed that the fact that my uncle had not gone into Cuba and bombed Castro during the Bay of Pigs, which was two months into his administration. And then he did not bomb Khrushchev during the,

during that confrontation at Berlin. That was evidence that he was committing treason against the United States. So they were really war happy at that time, huh? Yes. And your uncle came in and you're, and that's when your father was attorney general and they were a little bit more

on the peaceful side of things, huh? Right. Or the hopeful side of peace. Well, they didn't want to go to war. In fact, my uncle said, when he was asked by Ben Bradley, who was one of his best friends, who was the editor of the Washington Post, what he wanted on his epithet, on his tombstone,

he said he wanted, he kept the peace. And he often said that the president's principal job was to keep the nation out of war. Who was a better peacekeeper? You think your uncle or your father, when you look back, even just like in their- Well, they were working together at that time. I mean, my uncle really did not want to go to war.

And my father ran against the Vietnam War. And you know- Yeah, there's a lot of famous pictures of him and stuff when he was running. Yeah. Uh-oh, you want to talk about the Pfizer vaccine? Yeah, we can talk about whatever. So you would, if you, do you think,

because in your life, this could be a time, I mean, where you would, did you ever have presidential hopes where you would be running for president even at this time in your life? Did I think that? Yeah. And not as a judgment or anything. Just, I was just thinking about that yesterday,

I was thinking about, oh, well, when are people usually presidents? And it's kind of around your age, kind of. I had opportunities to go into politics and I considered it many times during my life, probably most directly during when Hillary, when Hillary was appointed Secretary of State, she was at that point, the Senator,

the U.S. Senator from New York and occupied the seat that my father occupied. I had come close to running for that seat in the previous election, decided not to, and then Hillary came in and ran for it. Okay. And David. You wish you had run or do you?

No, it wasn't the right, it wasn't the right time for me. I had personal issues that I was dealing with. And family, I have, you know, I have six kids and I had a lot of, you know, I needed to pay attention to what was going on there. And I like my life too as an environmental advocate. So I ended up not doing that.

And then when Hillary left two years later to go to the White House, the governor of New York, David Patterson called me and it was his job to appoint somebody to fill her seat. And he offered me that job. So I could have at that point chosen to be U.S. Senator without even running for it and my dad's seat. But again, for personal reasons,

I didn't do it at that time. And, you know, I kind of lived my life like you do one day at a time and try to make, you know, keep doing the next right thing. And at that point, it was clear to me that the decision for me was to stay at home with my family and continue to do my environmental advocacy. And so I don't look back on that without any regret

or, you know, I'm very much at peace with where I am. And were you gonna have a space in Trump and Trump almost gave you a position or whenever he became president, wasn't there talk of that? And then it kind of went away. He just kind of went into the end of the wind with it. Well, what happened was he, in 20,

over the Christmas vacation, 2016, he's elected, right? And then obviously the election isn't in November. So I was skiing with my kids in Colorado over Christmas vacation and I got a call from his chief of staff saying the president elect wants to meet us. That's crazy.

And he wants to talk about vaccines. So, you know, I've been an activist on trying to get safer vaccines for a long time. And of course I agreed to meet with him. So I went to immediately after getting home, I went to Washington or I went to New York and met with him in Trump Tower. And during, it was about a two hour meeting.

Had you ever met with him before? I had sued him twice before a success. Okay, and I had met him. And you know, the lawsuit was not something that had hurt our relationship. I stopped him from building two golf courses in the New York City watershed about, and those lawsuits were about two or three years apart.

So, and he knew me and he knew my family. He would, when my sister ran for the governor of Maryland, he made a big contribution to that. He contributed to my brother who was then in Congress. And I had a cousin who was a congressman from Rhode Island and he made contributions to that. He was a big Democratic donor at that point. He called me, he asked me to come in.

I had, as I said, about a two hour meeting with him at that meeting. People were coming in and out of that meeting. So, Steve Bannon was there, Renz Priebus, if you remember him, Hope Hill was there, Kellyanne Conway, and Jared Kushner, and both of the president's sons at various times were in that meeting.

Five people. And he, but I had a lot of time alone with President Trump too. He said that he believed that vaccines were making people sick. Specifically, he had three women friends who were mothers, one who was in the building that day, who had perfectly healthy kids, who had gotten their wellness visits.

And they were around two years old and the children never were the same after those visits. They all had been subsequently diagnosed with autism. And he believed that it was linked to vaccines. And he, you know, because he had been open about that during the campaign, hundreds of women had, as they did, the same thing that happened to me that got me into this, you know, this career killing,

advocacy, vaccine safety, obviously. People start coming up to you and saying, you know, this happened to me, this happened to my son, and I had a perfectly healthy child and who exceeded all his milestones. And I took him in at 16 months and he, you know, he was speaking, he was toilet trained, he had social interactions and I took him in

and he had a shot or a series of shots. Usually it could be up to nine. Yeah, and now he's living in a 10th, 10th at the circus the afternoon. Right, and they, at night, they spike fever, 103, they have, I mean, the stories were yearly all identical. They had a seizure and then over the next three months, they lose all of their capacity to social interactions

for eye contact. They begin, Oh yeah, it's scary. I mean, a lot of that stuff is super scary. So, but, so you go into that all with control. I go in there and he tells me these stories and he says he wants to do something about it. And does it seem serious when he's saying that?

Like, yeah, he was dead serious. And he asked, you know, whether I would run a vaccine safety commission, then he asked what I would do. And I said, listen, I don't think you have to do a big political lift. All I think you need to do is open up the databases and allow independent scientists in there

to actually look at the science because the HMOs have all the vaccine data down the batch for every child in America. And they also have the medical records. So all you have to do, in fact, you can do now that is AI can do machine counting and you can do cluster analysis. And you can figure out very, very quickly

whether all of these epidemics not just of, you know, neurodevelopmental diseases like all the ADD, the ADHD, the speech light, the Tourette's send them, the narcolepsy, the ASD and autism. Oh yeah. The allergic diseases, food allergies, peanut allergies. Oh, it's crazy when you think about asthma

and then all the autoimmune diseases. Adult asthma. What? Even adult asthma. Yeah. And they're all listed, by the way, on the vaccine inserts as vaccine side effects because the only way that you can sue, you know,

they passed this law in 1986 and made it illegal to sue a vaccine company for injury. But you still can sue them if they know of an injury that's caused by their vaccine and they don't list it on the side effects. So they list 400 injuries on there. Falling down the stairs, everything. Well, it's all the autoimmune diseases.

But they're covering all their bases that way. Yeah, but they're not allowed to list it unless there are significant evidence that it's actually being caused by the vaccine. FDA is not allowed to allow them to list it unless FDA believes it's being caused by the vaccine. But so then, so the vaccines, they are approved by the FDA. But is the FDA a compromised group, though?

Well, yeah, it's actually, you know, people say it's approved by FDA, but actually the, it's not approved, the FDA rubber stamp said there's a panel within FDA that's called VIRPAC, the RBAC, that is, and that group is staffed or populated by industry insiders. So they're not people who work for FDA

and they're the ones who decide on the licensing. And the problem is at vaccines are not safety tested, right? That other medications are, and there's an exemption and it's an artifact of the CDC's legacy as the public health service. CDC used to be called the public health service and that was a quasi military agency. That's why people at CDC have military ranks

like Surgeon General and there, and they wear uniforms and the vaccine program was initially conceived as a national security defense against biological attacks in our country. So the only reason that we had the CDC was because we were thinking, okay, well, if some country poisons us or attacks us, we want to be able to plan ahead.

Well, that's the vaccine program. We had CDC was out there, I mean, CDC has other functions. But yeah, the vaccine program was if the Russians attacked us with anthrax or some other biological agent, they wanted to be able to formulate a vaccine very quickly, deploy it to 200 million Americans without regulatory impediments.

And so they said, if we call it a medicine, we're gonna have to do double blind placebo testing and that takes five years because a lot of injuries from medications, from all medications have long diagnostic horizons. So they found a loophole by naming it something different by calling it a vaccine. Right, by calling it biologics.

I see. And they excate in place. And they excate in place. For safety testing, yes. And so that's why vaccines do not have to be safe. Safety testing, in fact, the COVID vaccines that they're doing right now have more safety testing than any vaccine in history has ever had.

I mean, the one that Pfizer approved or the one that Pfizer's moving towards approval that had just kind of released some of the data on was tested on 42,000 people. And it was a, I believe, although we don't know because we haven't seen the data that it may have used a true placebo and that's very unusual.

And that's a, go on, sorry. Well, the problem, you know, the stock market rebounded when Pfizer made these announcements. Yeah, I saw this, Pfizer and biotech. What was the other one, biotech? Yeah, that's its partner. Okay.

And the problem with that vaccine is that, and by the way, if they come up with a vaccine that does what people think vaccines ought to do, which is you take one shot, you're protected for life. There's very, you know, there's side effects are serious side effects are one in a million. And, you know, I'd be the first in line to take it. Right.

You're not a anti-vaccine. You're not a anti-vaccine. I don't want to say that to you. People say, but you're a safe, you're a safe Vaxer. Is that a safe return? Well, I want to make sure we have robust science. We have independent regulatory agencies and that the vaccine and that we're sure

that the vaccine is a burning more problems than it's causing. Right. And that seems like pretty reasonable. I also don't think that the government, no matter what, ought to be able to mandate that people take medications,

particularly medications that have risks and all vaccines are risks. If they didn't have risks, it wouldn't have given them immunity from liability. You know, that's why. Take me through that. When you say that if they didn't have risks, they wouldn't give them.

Well, the vaccine, here's what happened is they, you know, when I was kid, I had three vaccines. My kids got, today's kids get 72 shot doses of 16 vaccines. So they give them, they load them up with the shots and in that there's 72 vaccines. There's 72 doses. So, you know, if appetite is B, you get five doses of that.

So, but you get all together, you're getting 72 doses and the, and the change happened. What happened is they added, sounds like a new Jay-Z album, doesn't it Nick, 72 doses or something? The, and they, I'll tell you a story real quick before you go Bobby.

I'll tell you before you go on. I'll tell you this story. So I grew up in a town where, you know, a lot of, they had a primate testing facility in our town. One of the first ones in the country was Tulane University. And, which is one of the reasons too, while I'm fascinated by a lot of this stuff that,

that you're into and that you speak out on is because, so when I was growing up, they had this facility. It's one of the first places that they tested the polio vaccine, because it was, it was Tulane University. They had a bunch of monkeys. Yeah, is this some of the information Nick here?

Yeah, that's the cutter answer. Well, so they had tested this for, they had a woman in New Orleans named Dr. Mary Sherman. And she allegedly realized that some of the vaccines that they were making were actually giving people polio. And giving people, and actually, I think also causing cervical cancer in women. I've read this over the years

and it's just been a lot of lore in our town. It was a woman at NIH called Bernice Eddy. Well, she got murdered though. Dr. Mary Sherman got murdered. Oh yeah, that's right. That's Mary's monkey. Yeah. She got murdered in Louisiana.

I was associated with the FK assassination. Yeah, there was some rumors of that and everything because Lee Harvey Oswald lived not far from there. Like, cause he went to school in our town when I grew up. He went to middle school there. But anyway, so there was always this lore that like, just that in our area.

You know, there was a lot of lore about that kind of stuff. But they ended up giving that vaccine out. This is where I'm going. They gave, they knew the vaccine or there was rumor that the vaccine was faulty and they gave it out anyway. Yeah. And that's the cutter laboratories, I think,

that we're just looking at. Yeah, and they gave it in California. I think it made 60,000 people. Yeah, in 1865. He's pulled off it. He's saying 40,000 people got the sepulio from it and 200 people got paralysis and 10 were killed. And this is the cutter laboratory.

That was a laboratory, I guess, that was like working on the Salk and Saban vaccines. Right. And, but yeah, so anyway, that stuff was always in my wheelhouse growing up. Like, oh, and my mom was big into that kind of stuff. Like our vaccine safe, what's going on here? You know, who's part of the lore in our area?

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Fauci is you know is the kind of the guy who orchestrates the you know that whole process but like I said we now have the most aggressive vaccine schedule in the in the country and with the with the COVID vaccine you mean well now with everything the problem with the COVID vaccine I'll tell you well here's the problem is they want they have all these vaccines and they recognize that it's gonna be really hard to get a vaccine that does what people say they would think it's gonna do so they have been reducing the standards to make it so that they can pass a vaccine no matter what and what they think it's gonna do is make

it so that they don't have to worry about COVID at all right right if you get a shot you're protected and and that you're not gonna transmit it okay that and particularly we want to make sure that the people who are vulnerable so people with comorbidities and fragile elderly that it's gonna keep them from dying but what they did is the the testing protocols that they're using do not require them to show any of those things the testing program I'll tell you how it works they take 22,000 people and they give them the Pfizer vaccine and they took 22,000 people and give them a placebo and then they wait and it's

double-blind so the way it's supposed to work is neither the patients the subjects test subject volunteers or the researchers know who got what okay and then you wait till a hundred people get sick from COVID that takes a while because you know you have 40,000 people and it's it's kind of hard nowadays to get sick from COVID you're not gonna have you know you're not gonna have the majority of those people exposed so after a hundred people get sick they stop the study and look at it and then they say how many of those people got the vaccine and how many got the placebo okay and if 50% of them got the vaccine and

50% of the placebo means they're zero efficacy and the vaccine doesn't work well in this case with Pfizer everybody's excited because 90 they they stopped the study when 95 people got sick and apparently 85 of those people were in the placebo group which means the vaccine is appears to be 90% effective here's the problem they the way they measure whether you have COVID is that you have one positive PCR test you have one positive PCR test and you have one symptom so that could be a cough it could be a fever it could be a chill it could be a headache and you have COVID so what they're testing the vaccine for

is not what we want to know does it prevent you from dying right as it prevent you from being hospitalized understood and and we don't we will never know from them because they have they have geared back the studies so that is to make them as Peter Doshi who is the editor of the British Medical Journal he said this in New York Times editorial he said these studies were designed to succeed so that you cannot fail oh no matter how bad the vaccine is it's gonna pass and as we want a vaccine right everybody wants vaccines so we can restart the economy the big problem with this vaccine there's two problems

one is it does not prevent transmission that means I can get the vaccine and then I get exposed to COVID I still give COVID to you and everybody on the airplane you just don't experience it I don't experience it but it makes it even more dangerous because normally we would know you have it if I yeah then I'd stay home and I wouldn't infect buddy but if I'm feeling like a million bucks yeah and I'm still I become a super spreader like you know Typhoid Mary oh yeah you don't want that and yet that's what apparently this vaccine does it stops you from knowing it but you continue to transmit it the other problem is that they're

only testing them for a month or two months you're not gonna see bad side effects till maybe a year out a lot of these you know injuries that you get from vaccines have very long incubation periods autoimmune disease like diabetes rheumatoid arthritis grave disease Crohn's disease IBS you won't see these in a more food allergy yeah it takes a long time for those to incubate out of the body and what their and what Pfizer's doing which is very dishonest is as soon as it finishes the study it unblinds it so that everybody knows you got the vaccine you got the placebo and then it takes all the people in the

placebo group and it gives them the real vaccine so now we completely are unable to tell whether there's long-term it's like covering your future tracks kind of yeah exactly and it's a trick that they've used in the vaccine injury I industry that's the same thing they did with the Gardasil vaccine it makes it impossible for anybody to ever know whether the reason they're getting sick was because of that vaccine or whether it was just bad luck so why is it that we've become so like why is it our government that's giving so much power to these to these companies and less less thoughtfulness to the safety of

humanity like who's yeah I mean the problem is the entire sort of medical cartel is now feeding at the tit off Big Pharma yeah oh the the the universities are getting all their money from from you know from sponsoring clinical trials the the regulatory agencies have become our what you know our subject to what we call regulatory capture they've become sock puppets for the industry that they're supposed to regulate and you know you see that everywhere I mean I've been suing regulatory agencies for 40 years EPA and you know and and the state agencies and for example famously in Louisiana is

utterly run by the oil industry is corrupt but I'm the corruption is particularly acute in HHS and the reason for that is that that the agencies are really part of the industry oh half of CDC's budget goes to buying and selling vaccines FDA or or FDA half of its budget comes from the pharmaceutical companies and with NIH which is the other big agency they are collecting tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars on vaccine patents so they work on the vaccine at the outset they transfer the patent to Gilead or Pfizer the Moderna vaccine was completely developed by Tony Fauci he hands it to a

private group they then they put two billion dollars of federal money into allowing them to develop it and then Tony Fauci's agency keeps half the profits from the vaccine oh it would be like you know I've sued EPA many times for being a captured agency but you know what would what would it be like if EPA made half of its profits selling coal yeah it's the same thing these agencies are not independent agencies they're completely captured and you have and you know the all of the other institutions of government that that should stand between a greedy corporation and a vulnerable child have been

compromised Congress Congress has more money lobbying money from the from the pharmaceutical industry than any other industry they give them double what oil and gas cuz I'm talking about lobbyists there's more form of lobbyists on Capitol Hill than there are congressmen senators and Supreme Court justices combined regulatory agencies have been captured the press is utterly captured and that's because in 1997 we passed a law in this country or FDA you know change the regulation to make it legal for the first time for television and radio and newspapers to advertise pharmaceutical products on the air

direct-to-consumer was that what year was that I was 97 so there's only two countries in the world that allow that everybody agrees a terrible thing to do oh it and it's half of our commercials as well well Roger Ailes who founded Fox told me that that there are 22 commercials on his average evening news show and 17 of those are pharmaceutical oh yeah I'm just trying to get through half a family guy next thing you know I have HIV by the end of day so you know I'm saying it's just like the fear it's in a lot of its fear too and they give you pictures are like oh here's a happy family but you might

have this lumen in the distance you know yeah you might have scoliosis that he wanted to do one of those ads where you know they you know they list all these horrible things from the side effects and the people are walking around happy and laughing playing football he said he just wants to do one of those ads where people are actually acting out the side effects man he's so good they don't have that SNL is not the same if it's so different when they had guys like him Carvey spade on there I feel like the level of humor was just so different it just gotten different now on there so so you had so so you have this meeting with

Trump just to get just kind of going back to that you had this meeting with Trump and leave out of the meeting kind of hopeful about it boy I said to him what do you want me to do and he said we want you to announce so a Jared Kushner escorted me to the press scott scrum how tall is your Kushner you think he's uh he's about I think he's about my size he's about six one okay and I think you're like six one two yeah I'm about a little over six I'm reaching I'm doing yoga too actually did some this morning yeah well you start shrinking too on you I told you the next 20 years of your life are gonna be a nightmare cuz well you

battle against it a lot I see you at the gym all the time yeah you used to yeah until it closed up but I hear about you at the gym sometimes when it opened back up briefly the trainer that I have is like oh I saw Bobby Kennedy in there the other day yeah I was like yeah he's in there um so you left out of there was it hoping oh yeah so then I went down and announced it talked to the press and then a week later Pfizer made a million dollar contribution to Trump's inaugural and then Trump comes in and we continue to have some meetings with Fauci and you know that he he had set up that we're part of this process and

we're rolling to get this thing started and it seems legit when you talk to him he seemed like somebody did he seem like oh he's very very charming but he's not he's listen Fauci I'm about to publish a book on Fauci yeah and he's um you know he's basically he's been there for 50 years so he's like Jay Edgar Hoover and the only way that you lasted that agency for 50 years is by carrying water for the pharmaceutical industry and under his watch he's supposed to prevent auto immune and allergic diseases under his watch chronic disease has gone from affecting 12 percent of the American population to 54 percent we take more

pharmaceutical drugs than anybody in the world we pay his prices so we it's we he's made this country pharmaceutical nation yeah my brother's allergic to sesame seeds but you know exactly and the way that you get allergies is from the aluminum adjuvant in the vaccine which is meant is put in that vaccine to initiate an allergic response and it and so if you have a sesame seed oil as an except being in the vaccine or if you're if you're eating sesame seeds when you have that aluminum adjuvant in you it can promote provoke an allergic a permanent allergy and if you look you don't know anybody who is my age who has

food allergy very very hard to find I think it's one in something like 1300 and today you're born after you'll have a football team yeah after 1989 so any anybody who was born after 89 I think it's one in 12 now autism went from one in 10,000 in my generation to one in every 34 kids and it's the same with all these chronic diseases that are all listed as side effects so the proof seems to be right there well that's correlation which isn't actually proof but if you actually go into the scientific literature the proof is there but now is that science so whenever you talk to Trump you said okay let's open up this

this database right this information because you said like yeah I said lead let's you know I said you don't have to do any heavy lift you don't have to go to Congress you don't have to change regulations all you have to do is open up the vaccine safety data link which is the medical records for the top nine HMOs and allow independent scientists to go in there and just open it up so they can start publishing and did he do it and no he didn't it's still locked you know locked down Tony Fauci make sure nobody can get in there and you know caught even when Congress ordered these two scientists called David Michael

Geyer ordered them to go in there and they they left them into the place they gave them one study room they would not allow them near a copy machine they allowed them pencils and they had to write down data and they they cranked the heat in the room up to 105 and they you know stole their hard drives and they did right I don't want anybody in that right and writing sorry you've got to rewritten a letter it's like having a stroke the whole time it's like you've written something I mean it's absolutely yeah I do right I mean you might still write it's yeah it's getting so anyway so anyway so big

step in and Trump appoints pharma Pfizer's lobbyist to run FDA Scott Gottlieb and Eli Lilly's lobby is Alex Azar to run HHS and as soon as they came in they shut us down and was that a big boy you bummed about that was I bombed yeah I was very bummed I'd have been bummed yeah of course I just wait it was like within our grasp you know and do you think because I feel like a lot of the thing with Trump was that he a lot of people felt like and feel like that he was trying to speak for like the just everyday working guy do you feel like he was like that I don't know I don't know I mean look he he's also a shammy he also is like you know as also is this has this mystique of being this businessman that hides behind lawyers and you know like just like every other businessman kind of it seems like a lot of times yeah you know what I I don't like bullies and I didn't like that part

of his character I just I don't care I'm nonpartisan if it's a Democrat or if it's a Republican and they do something wrong I'm gonna call them on it and you know I don't think I don't think bullying people is is a good thing and I think you know one of the gifts that Donald Trump had was our really you know gifts of of demagoguery that he was able to connect to a lot of the kind of darker sides of people to bigotry and anger and I'm not you know and I watched that happen as not a imaginary and a lot of people think that that's okay you think the media had a large part in that I mean I'm not I think the media was

reprehensible on both sides I think the coverage of Trump by for example CNN was sickening because I you know I saw Trump do a lot of things that should be criticized and and you know that we should be horrified by the media coverage was extremely dishonest and they weren't and the media coverage of COVID has been you know absolutely dishonest and that to me is what I object you know what I object about them for example mandates the mass lockdowns etc. I read the science and if you go to CHD's website children's health defense you can see the mass studies that we've been able to to to accumulate and we take the ones that

say the mass work which are very few and they're mainly CDC sponsored and the many many many that say that they don't work that they make you sick that there's problems with it but I don't take a position on that and CHD doesn't take a position what I the thing that offends me is that you're not allowed to debate those things and why can't we why don't we see somebody on CNN who says I don't believe mass work and here's why and somebody else who says you know they do work and we should mandate them or have them and let's hear the argument let's hear the argument on the lockdowns why are there no economists on CNN who

says yeah you may save 200,000 people who are gonna die from COVID maybe but you're gonna kill 400,000 from disrupting the supply chains from medicandidification from deferred medical treatment from you know bankruptcies and here's the cost we can all see it normally I've sued government agencies for 40 years are not going through due process so a government agency tries to give a permit to an oil company to dump in the Hudson River and I say no you can't do that unless you go through notice and comment rulemaking you have to post the rule publicly so everybody can read

it you have to do an environmental impact or regulatory impact statement tells the justification for the rules so all the scientific studies that you're relying on that justify that rule and you have to have a public hearing you have to have a comment period where the public can come out and comment on it and say wait a minute if you do that you're gonna close down my restaurant and every restaurant in my town and here's a different way to do it where you can tweak the rule again what do you want without destroying all these businesses whatever but there's a debate and there's back and forth and you have an

administrative hearing which is just like a trial where they bring all of their experts in to say you know here's why we need this rule and we the people who oppose it can bring their own experts in and then they do direct examination and cross-examination and then there's a recommendation and the rule gets passed none of that happened we were just told you do what you're told mass work anybody who says they don't is unpatriotic is evil is trying to pass disease is in itself ish and they need to be shut up and shut down and not listen to and that's not American it's not due process it's not the way we

work in this country and what I think people are really uncomfortable with I don't think you know some of these people are selfish but I think the vast majority of people who are out there with questions who are protesting are protesting because they're very uneasy about this kind of totalitarian authoritarian control yeah we're all of the you know the indicia of democracy and the guarantees of civil rights are being abandoned it's being well I mean it's it's it's funny Bob you strike me in a it's it's like there's jet line or just going up and down a jetway and you remind me of like a someone who's like

but what about due process you're like standing there waving and that's what a lot of people like I think you know you grow up you hear like these are the rules of how we play in this society and it's like there's no one yeah a lot of times it feels like no one is following them anymore so I think when you get anybody like Trump who says who I think at least like is as a stern voice this is why I think one of the reasons a lot of people voted for Trump because at least he was like a stern voice that was different than the status quo I think a lot of people wanted I would have elected a fucking cookie I would have

voted a chocolate chip cookie in the office I was so I'm so tired of politics in my life like I just felt I just felt like it started to feel like and I'm just an everyday guy like I don't know that much but it started to feel like everything's been bought and sold like they're you know there's no one standing up for like just the guy who goes to work and works hard it doesn't mean anything you know there's no borders people that are going to fight for the military doesn't mean everything started to feel like it didn't mean anything you know I don't know I'm kind of rambling here a little bit I mean I agree I agree

but it started to feel like I don't know and it's not only that the government is no longer like working for us and you know going through the process of due process and allowing debate but they're also have this extraordinary capacity now to sense of the press yeah my Instagram has been shut down and it's not because I said anything that was untrue it's because I said things that challenge pharmaceutical products I criticize pharmaceutical products and challenge government policies and say would have said wait a minute that policy does not make sense to me for this reason yeah they you can't

not show me a single time on my Instagram that I put something up there that wasn't true yeah and yet it's been frozen and you know you're just asking people to hey look let's can we look at this like no there's no and it's definitely like that especially like working in Hollywood and that sort of thing where it's like if you even raise your hand and say but what about this like what about these people like why is racism always blamed on white people if you even try to bring up a conversation I'm not trying to get into racism or anything but about anything but what about this like what about mass everybody

just immediately just you can't even ask a question the minute the minute you ask a question you are silenced it feels like one other thing about mass is that if you look at the history of totalitarian regimes they what they always do whether you know it was on a Franco or or Mussolini or Hitler or Stalin or any you know or Papa Doc and they all do the same thing which is to try to crush culture and to crush any evidence of self expression so when Hitler and Stalin came in they killed all the artists who did not agree with a certain paradigm with a paradigm that was consistent with their ideology they

killed the poets they killed the intellectuals they killed anybody who was you know that the comedians they they have to get rid of them because that is self-expression and what is the ultimate vector for self-expression it's your facial expressions yeah and they you know a mask I'm putting on a mask and not allowing human beings to communicate to each other and you know we have hundreds of muscles in our face and they were evolved to communicate in subtle and beautiful ways to people with very you know nuance changes Nick and extra actually put that on people and that's why you know with theocratic

regimes the most tyrannical regimes in the world like Saudi Arabia or women go to cover them up for driving a car they tell women you are chattels you are property you are commodities and we don't want you to even show your facial expression so put on that burqa and now I feel like you know we've all been told to put on the burqa just wrap it on be obedient and what is the purpose of that in many cases I think in the minds of some people it is a placeholder for the vaccine you're gonna keep that on because the real money they put already 18 billion dollars into the vaccines a the Pentagon we just got a secret contract

from the Pentagon for Moderna with Moderna who is we well my group children's health defense okay and we were a we were able to get this a sentence I heavily redacted the contracts between Moderna and NIH and then a heavily redacted Pentagon contract but even from that contract which you can look out of my Instagram you know on says that Moderna at the Pentagon commits if Moderna gets emergency use authorization which is completely in Tony Fauci's hands that the Pentagon commits to giving nine billion dollars to Moderna half of which goes to Tony Fauci's agency to buy 200 million or 500 million doses of the

vaccine so so that's two doses for every man woman and child in this country and it's going to the Pentagon which is the military which is scary yeah oh you know there's so much money involved here and the masks are really like a placeholder they're like they're away it feels like oh it feels like somebody saying does you keep that freaking mask on your face until you get your vaccine and then we'll let you take it off but until then you keep it on and it's like a hostage taking oh it feels like you keep your mouth shut it's hard to relate to others my mask on even like it doesn't I feel like I'm even if I'm in a room with

somebody feels like I'm not in the room with them there's a lot of there's a lot of different things there and it's interesting because you talk about you know so many things where we don't get proof we don't get access to the proof of the studies but with the mask I feel like we've it's obvious that we've we get there's a lot of proof that we get as individuals like that that it just doesn't feel very human you know it doesn't feel very it I don't feel like a human being with that thing on yeah you know and that's a cost yeah if you head on over to Theovon.com right now you'll notice that our website has been

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schedule your free demo today that's MODI PHY com slash Theo these guys don't have for round baby gang you know that and you know somebody said when I was in Europe you know when I didn't have a mask and I spoke to this big grot in Berlin and there was an NBC group there that said to me you know why aren't you wearing a mask are you scared and I said I'm more scared of censorship than I am of COVID and that may sound insensitive because people are dying of COVID but people died in the American Revolution so and they died in the American Revolution to preserve our constitutional rights and our freedoms and at

some point we have to say you know what kind of nation are we are we are we the land of the free and the home of the brave or are we you know a land where if somebody you know where somebody is pointing to something and saying be scared keep yourself in a constant state of fear so that we can you know so we can do some business stuff until we tell you what's next wait till we get the sponsorship money and then we'll tell you exactly what you need now why is it so why when you say that to me it sounds very normal but I'm starting to get this weird acclimation to stuff like that sounding outrageous right and I know

that it doesn't in my in my immediacy but when I start factoring into like okay well if I say those things what are people gonna think what I think you're gonna get a lot of hate you know on this podcast I don't know oh I don't think that we will most audiences are pretty open to things they they can watch someone and see that okay this is a person who has a point of view this isn't a vile person this isn't a bad creature they might and also not only might they agree with your point of view but also they can just hear it I think most people can still hear things pretty regularly I think a lot of people like

you said it's just become a lot of fear you know I'm just of a different ilk I guess where it's like I don't know just I don't know man I feel like I can't say what I'm trying to say right now but everything they just make you feel so crazy if you think anything different and you can't share it on Twitter Twitter is totally you can't even ask a question on Twitter without being well they have all you know they have a whole infrastructure of trolls and you know response that is just you know it's all pharma paid for and it's hateful and all of that but you know there's also a lot of people who just you know and

particularly in my party which is the Democratic Party at C mass as a symbol of moral rectitude and you know they believe it and I my you know my orientation as a science I've been you know I've been litigating on science for 30 years and or 40 years and and you know like I tried was part of the trial team on the Monsanto case my wife came to to watch me and Monsanto's from crops huh yeah they and round up you know round oh dude hell yeah dude we still uh yeah I got frickin a bunch of fertilizer dumped on me once having it burned a lot of my skin yeah well you need a good lawyer man I should have on him bro it was crazy it

was a different time though oh we tried those the three Monsanto cases that you know ultimately brought down the company and my wife who you know Cheryl Hines came to the trial and she was you know we she was there on a day when Monsanto's Harvard experts were on the stand and they were so convincing and persuasive that you know that that roundup was completely safe and she said to me well you know why aren't we even here these guys know what they're talking about they're educated they have credentials and they're utterly convincing and then the next day she heard our guys and she was like well

that guy from Harvard was totally full of crap oh you know the idea that the idea that we can trust an expert to tell us what's good for us every trial I've ever been involved with there's an expert on both sides and they're both equally convincing and that's why you need the debate yeah that's why you know saying Tony Fauci that's why people say I want a second opinion yeah he's a doctor he hasn't treated patients for 50 years he's a doctor but he doesn't know anything about economics he cannot tell you how many people are dying of of unemployment there are studies from the 1980s there's a famous

study in 1982 in the 1980s there was these huge downsizing and layoffs that were occurring in our country and there was a whole cottage industry a whole school of economics that grew up to see what happens to people when they get unemployed and there's one very famous study it's cited hundreds of times in the literature that said that for every additional one point in unemployment there's 37,000 Americans die yeah nine nine thousand of them die of heart attacks 900 from suicide and so on and so on hypertension diabetes all these lose their health care that all of these mad things there's a cascade of bad

things happen our population was about half so you have to double that and say for every point in unemployment we're gonna lose maybe 60,000 dead and otherwise would not have died and are we start saving more lives are we killing more people with the quarantine than we are killing with COVID that's a great question nobody has done that assessment and that's the weird thing is people they listen to the experts but Anthony Fauci is not an expert on deaths from unemployment and you know and when when Britain did this study Britain said in five weeks in April and May there were 30,000 excess deaths in elderly

facilities which they call nursing homes in Britain but only 10,000 of my COVID 20,000 of them died from isolation oh yeah I'm not talking I mean I notice even just in my own like you know going a 12-step and going to recovery and not being able to have those meetings and not being able to oh I mean the addiction rates are I cannot even imagine right I cannot even imagine how like and you and I know people yeah it's hard to find out and died yeah you know during this where people couldn't go to our meetings you know and it's a lot of people's lively and that's a lot of people and there's no talk like there's just no

talk about the human effect of some of this it feels like sometimes it's just about this weird medical effect or medical fear which kind of it's not shocking then if big if big pharma and that money is is so slowly seeped its arms all the way in everything that at the very pinnacle of discussion the only thing people are concerned about the media is concerned about is the medical effects of it and no longer the human effects of it I mean I was in Anderson Cooper ever not once had an economist on to say pussy bro I don't know bro you know I mean that's just my thought bro but you know what I'm saying

I'll put side control on that dude in the heartbeat but that's just me you know I don't know though I don't know here's a question right here from a young man who's probably about to die no I'm just joking thank you for for sending in the video we can't hear it out here Nick I don't think I had a question in the meantime so you said to how the the Pfizer vaccination right now doesn't you can still spread COVID yeah with that so so do you see a world where this they push forward with this you can still spread it but it supposedly makes you healthy but then we still have to keep the masks on even yeah what you said

about the facial expressions that was like terrifying but it seems like the way they're kind of marketing it right now oh you can still spread it we may still even yeah I mean it's gonna be really you know we really have to be utterly under hypnosis for them to be able to tell us to take this vaccine when the whole point of the vaccine is the only three points because we don't care if you get a fever or a chill and nobody cares about that what we care is do you die right you have to get hospitalized and does it try and do you transmit the disease to others right well here's a vaccine that doesn't prevent any of

those things as far as we know how can they now mandate that people get that it's kind of it's a it's really a complete disconnect it is a it's it's it's a it's cognitive dissonance where people will say you know somehow this is a life-saving medication because it prevents you from coughing and it does nothing about anything to do with this virus that anybody cares about but then why would everyone do why would they agree to that then why would they you know listen they'll they'll they'll what they'll do is in my view is they'll mandate it for activities so that you can't go to a ball game that you can if

you're a nurse they'll do they'll do like nurses doctors people who work in nursing homes first who lose their job fire fighters first responders and then they'll do the University of California the University of California just mandated a flu shot there is no flu this year and flu shots we know from the literature increase your chance of getting COVID the Pentagon did a study in January that where they gave you know placebo group of soldiers and they gave the flu vaccine the soldiers who got the flu vaccine with 36 percent more likely to get COVID a coronavirus not coronavirus 19 but a coronavirus but

there are many many many other studies and people should go to Children's Health Defense website my website there's other there's a you can look up letter to Sanjay Gupta which was a letter I wrote to Sanjay Gupta which outlines all of these studies and show that if you get a flu shot you are much more likely to get coronavirus or some other upper respiratory viral infection it wrecks your immune system and yet the University of California mandated a we sue them we lost that lawsuit because the judge said well you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna arbitrate medicine somebody's already

made that decision that's the problem is that and then they're gonna tell you you can't go to a ball game you can't go to a bar you can't go to a movie unless you get the vaccine so back to that Berkley back to the University of California case does that is that but does that shot do more good than it does bad the flu shot does much more listen people should not listen to me and I always tell people listen you need to look at the science but I can tell you what the science says and then you should check on this you can go to my website to the Children's Health Defense website look up my letter to Sanjay

Gupta and I go through because there's been three major studies on which are called meta reviews which means there are there are hundreds and hundreds of studies on the flu shot on various aspects does it prevent hospitalization in the elderly does it cause injuries and in babies when it's you know one of maternal flu shots etc there's hundreds of questions there's hundreds and hundreds of studies and there's three meta reviews our meta review is one a group of scientists go out and says we're gonna look at every study that's ever been done and tell you what the state of the science is right now on

these questions so the meta reviews have been done two of them by the Cochran collaboration which is the ultimate arbiter for pharmaceuticals it's 30,000 scientists who don't take pharmaceutical money and the top scientists in the world recognize by it the leader of them is a guy called Thomas Jefferson he's a founder and he's very very famous British British scientist not the president he's a the he's a British scientist and then the other was by the British Medical Journal and here's what they said you have to give a hundred flu shots to prevent one case of the flu there's no evidence at flu shots one

person you mean you to prevent one case oh you have to know you have to give a hundred shots to prevent one case of the flu you're only preventing a case there's no evidence that the flu shot prevents any hospitalizations or any deaths in fact since they started giving the flu shot to elderly people the death rate has grown up dramatically a flu shot is not preventing deaths in the elderly if you get a flu shot you are you will not get you're less likely to get the flu shot of that strain of flu but you're five times more likely to get a non-flu infection and that you are six times more likely to transmit the flu so

the flu shot does not prevent you from transmitting it so that's what the flu shot and we've had the flu shot for 90 years so the COVID thing it almost sounds like it'd be just another flu shot oh my that's what it's and that's what I've said from the beginning we've had a flu shot for 90 years and that's the best they can do and COVID it's much more it's much more difficult to develop a coronavirus vaccine and one of the problems that's unique to coronavirus vaccine in the past is the coronavirus vaccines are known to wreck your immune system they've done and it's a it's a phenomena that is known as

pathogenic priming and what they found is they give the coronavirus vaccine to ferrets for example in 2014 good ferrets developed a very good antibody response if ferrets you mean the animals yeah and the ferret they use ferrets because ferrets are the closest analogy to human beings when it comes to upper respiratory viral infections yes and so that's what they are they always use ferrets that's disgusting sorry I know you love animals but they pissed on me at my buddy fucking Curtis's house and that shit will never go away man but he let him out also and he should be from that oh dude it was they are just why

anyway go on I'm sorry so anyway they gave it to the ferrets the ferrets got it very good antibody response but then when the ferrets were exposed to the wild coronavirus they all died I see you're saying so it's pathogen priming it's like it'll like it'll help you to that one specific thing but then when something else comes along yeah it makes you less likely to be able to defend yourself exactly like wow here's a question right here from a young man hello mr. Kennedy it's great seeing you top it up with Theo here I know you're really concerned about children's safety I'm just kind of wondering what are the

top three to five you know areas of concern you know chemicals etc influencing raising kids right now all right thanks but you know and that's a good question there's a we know that there's been a dramatic explosion of chronic disease in our children so in 1946 percent of Americans had chronic disease a chronic disease I mean all I don't mean disease is one category allergic diseases opiates had he also is in there and then neurodevelopmental diseases and in 1946 percent of Americans had chronic disease by 1986 12.8 percent had chronic diseases according to HHS studies so it doubled and you know people

then the vaccine schedule had gone from three during that period to 11 and then in 2006 HHS studied the issue again and found that 54% of Americans have chronic disease American children you know a dramatic lot more than half our kids HHS is what? Health and Human Services that is the kind of the Uber agency in which CDC FDA and NIH are housed okay oh and they did the study and oh the question is what is causing this explosion and chronic disease we know it's not genes because genes do not cause epidemics they don't cause sudden epidemics genes I can provide a vulnerability you need an environmental

toxin and there's a scientist called Phil Landrigan who looked at all of the possible suspects and he came up with I think about 11 and one of those is you know his glyphosate pesticides which follow the timeline neonicotoid pesticides which again follow the same timeline PFOAs which is a flame retardant that became its children's pajamas and it's in you know it's in masks in fact beyond that are made by 3m so we're breathing that you know which is carcinogen and then EMFs which are basically cell phones and and then vaccines and those are the primary culprits and it would be very easy for

the government there's a there's a narrow view I mean one of the other ones that's on that list is ultrasound because ultrasound you know followed the timeline and it's ubiquitous it's in every hospital and it's all over the world and all these babies are getting it so it has to be a suspect oh I understand that for a baby if I'm a baby and I hear something like that I'd be I don't believe it but I don't know much about it I I believe that the you know the real culprits are the vaccines I think the pesticides I listen our kids are walking or swimming around in a toxic soup today so their their immune

systems are under constant assault and what happens is that a lot of those substances open up the blood-brain barrier so a lot of the toxics that normally your body could excrete are ending up going into their brains and you know you're getting all of these neurodevelopmental effects and you know and it's probably you know you also have fluoride and drinking water you have dental amalgams which are you know mercury and so there's all these different toxins but I would say kind of the that I'm most worried about the ones which are the EMFs from cell phones and from the tower 5g I think it's

gonna be really a catastrophe and we don't know the long-term effects of that no and and there are literally tens of thousands of studies that show that it including a 30 million dollar NIH study that was just released that show that you know they cause cancer they cause oh yeah they don't hate it cell damage and you know and they cause brain injuries they change your EEGs kids who put his cell phone to their head for two minutes their EEGs do not return to normal for 12 hours and it's all around us right now so 5g is really I think a catastrophe yeah we don't know the long-term effects of these waves going

through our body no damn microwaves we're gonna turn I'm gonna turn into a fucking snail Bobby I don't I don't mean to depress you no it's okay look I knew it was coming here's the thing I know every time I answer my phone that it's coming I know when I wake up in the morning after I do yoga or after I meditate once I start to reach for that phone there's no denying that there's a ping which I now call it ironically that goes off inside of my head and in my spirit that tells me it's not a good thing to do well you know what there's people first of all I never put this off on next to my head I'm but I always

hold it put on speaker and hold it away but and I have one room in my house that's armored so there's no EMF sitting there and I sleep in that room I you know there's people who now will do that you have to make sure because the predatory industry that's for the elite right there armored bedroom it's you know they paint it with carbon and the thing is we're you know my group children self-defense is fighting the lawsuit in front of FCC so we have a woman who's an Israeli attorney she used to be she used to work for the Israeli Defense Forces and their intelligence unit she was doing all of that she was completely

surrounded by cyber warfare or electronic equipment all day and she was fine with it and then one day it just leveled her and from then on anytime she gets even near as a cell phone she gets sick yeah she came into my house is why I did it okay because I got seven kids and she came into my house shit I think you had six kids when this pocket started and you know I'm married Cheryl and she has a kid she has more no you do yeah you had a better kid beautiful kid so um anyway she came to my house and she said you have and she's so sensitive to it she can tell different parts of the house in different regions of each room

where I have but and the other thing is I could check her story because I got a meter she got a game of the meter and then she said follow me around and I will tell you where it's hot where you're late and she can go to any part of my house and say this is like killing me right here and I'll turn on it on the meter and it goes off the chart she came into my bedroom and it was just you know it was wild dirty electricity everywhere and particularly next to out of my bed and I said so at that point I was like okay what is it gonna cause let's do it and so one room where you know where there's not it and I go

in that room and I could sleep at night yeah and I you know I go right to sleep and I have never been able to sleep in my life I'm kicked the sheets for hours and look it's hard to sleep when there's a lot to defend out there you know it really is though when you have a lot in your soul to defend what was that question that came up from that young lady there okay let's answer the one that came up with that young we had the child and he said what would you do that first one you showed me when I walked in if that's okay on the guy who looked like he was almost was he from Salt Lake hey Theo this is Randy Raleigh from Salt

Lake City Utah hey I just had a question for Robert Kennedy I just wanted to know I've heard him say that there are no safe vaccines out there so if he had a newborn right now would he vaccinate that child would he be selective about the vaccines that he gives that child or would he just forego any vaccines at all I appreciate the input appreciate the information and love your show man gang gang bro that's a good question you know I don't give people advice and what to do because I'm not a doctor but I would tell you what I would do I fully vaccinated all my kids and I also took the flu vaccine every year no and you

know this thing I got in my voice which is called spasmodic dystonia I was actually reading I'm doing some litigation against the companies and part of it I had to look at all the side effects and for the first time about a month ago I was looking through you know when you look at the side effects that they publish on the manufacturer's insert of the vaccine there you know there some of them are pages long and they'll have you know sex 60 or 70 injuries and one of the top ones of the flu vaccine was spasmodic dystonia which is what I got I was taking a flu vaccine every year at that point and for years doctors

have said to me what trauma did you do because you need a trauma to trigger this I got this when I was 42 wow and so for the first time it occurred to me that this might be a vaccine entry my kids are all healthy robust highly meddling boys are pretty tall yeah I have one that's one could you barely a couple hundred six foot five see the one kid but you know they have a severe peanut allergies there's we have asthma we have ADHD we have all of the you know this stuff that is associated with that generation born after 1989 the vaccine generation so I here's what I would tell you there's I would never I if I could

go back I would unvaccinate all my kids because I think they did suffer injuries I would never give a kid a vaccine that had aluminum or mercury in it so some of the flu vaccines of mercury sell about 13% and then there's a lot of the vaccines that have aluminum and I would really stay away from those the problem is that none of the vaccines are safety tested so there's none of them where you can say that this vaccine is going to avert more problems than it's causing I would do your own research look at the ingredients of the vaccine and ask yourself if you want those things in your child's body and

look at the side effects and ask yourself do I want to take this risk and remember this and the according to HHS fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries are reported so you have to multiply what you see on that list by 100 because we don't know that they're injuries from it because people don't know like my I never reported my kids on food allergies of the vaccine right but now I recognize that of course that's what they are right and people you know the doctors are reluctant to report them because if you let's say you get your shots the doctor said that it's gonna be good for your your child and your child

two days later or a week later gets a seizure or gets SIDS or something else and you go back and say could it have been the vaccines doctor will say absolutely not because he doesn't know he there's no there's no course in medical school on vaccine injury it's not taught they're just taught the vaccines are all good they never hurt anybody and you know they they're necessary well will they be taught though down the road because I mean or does does big pharma influence like what's taught at the school as well big pharma owns the journals and it owns the medical schools because the medical

schools their funding is coming from those pharmaceutical companies because that what the way it works there's researchers who are the teachers at that medical school are a lot of them are running clinical trials for the pharmaceutical companies that's how they make their side income right and the medical school so the pharmaceutical company will say pay that doctor let's say $20,000 a patient you know for the the people that he's experimenting on for a new medication and the medical school takes half of that money as a as a you know a skims half of that money off plus if the if that product that that

doctor is working on actually makes it to market the medical school then can collect royalties on it the medical schools aren't making billions of dollars from these companies and if the medical school does something that the company doesn't like the company stops giving it business and so and so they you know the companies if pharmaceutical companies can dictate virtually every aspect of you know of what happens at that medical school including the curriculum it's money man it's the same as with entertainment industry it's like you know if they don't like what you have to say sometimes or what you're

thinking then they they don't go your direction you know it's like I don't know there's like any contrary anything it's contrary and I feel like it seems suddenly becomes conspiracy these days does that make any sense or no that's you know I mean that you know it's the way you know some of my favorite way to attack any any any inconvenient truth by just saying that it's a conspiracy theory yeah and but it's like the number one thing people go to now look at this conspiracy theorist you know like I have a I had a comedy special I did a few years ago that came out on Netflix and they just because of my accent and stuff

and I have like this the somebody wrote an article and it was like if Trump hasn't found his favorite comedian he'll love this guy like and it was right during the election like around that time and it just like fucking broke my heart cuz like I've worked so hard like 12 years to get this comedy put together and it's a sarcasm it's all sarcasm and then you get to this moment and then somebody just labels you one way just because they're fucking dumb and don't want to be you don't want to think or you know recognize it just I don't know that shit just fucking burns me sometimes man how immediately somebody can see

you know like any back yeah but you're not yours for safety vats and every time I say I mean I was listening I've been trying to get mercury out of fish well my mom maybe years and nobody calls me any fish yeah you know I want to get the poison out of the vaccines I'm not any it's like I want I want to see bells and automobiles it doesn't mean I'm against cars yeah right yeah it's a way to marginalize you it's a way to vilify you it's a way to justify censoring you by putting you in that category he's anti-vaxx he's crazy don't listen to him don't let him on none of these guys will let me on TV you know Anderson Cooper

there's no way in the world they would ever allow me on that work TV and make your own channel what how to do that oh I think I mean I mean I feel like you could do it easily I think well it's funny because when I you were coming in two people who I love my mom being one she said Theo this is wonderful his group the Children's Vaccine Health Defense has a great email newsletter I read it all the time it's called the defender yep called the defender he has some libertarian views I'm so happy to have him that you get to have him and then I said well make a video she said I can't I'm working but I would ask him the

impetus behind the formation of the Children's Health Defense other than his standing up for the underdog yeah I mean you know the Children's Health Defense we do all of the issues that I was talking about we do fluoride we do pesticides you know we did roundup and then we you know we we do vaccines and any exposure to children well our issue is why is acceptable that 54% of our kids are sick we should have 6% top that are sick that's what the background rate is and why are we all walking around saying this is normal yeah you know why is it when I was a kid that there were no kids with autism they say one

in 10,000 but I've never met anybody who is 66 with full blown off damn hell no dude you don't see people had the Tism they called it by us the Tism when I was growing up yeah well we didn't have it we didn't know nobody knew it nobody knew why even or ever heard the word autism till 1988 that's when Rain Man came out right oh yeah he had yeah but it wasn't real what it's not what they call full blown autism it's more Asperger's syndrome yeah he had Asperger's that's a good point right is nonverbal non-toilet train headbanging stimming horrible gut aches and that's half of the people who have it so it's a

million people and you don't see you will never see somebody my age 66 walking around the mall a man with diapers on and a football helmet and bang his head nonverbal stimming and engaging in these stereotypical behaviors they don't exist so they're not locked somewhere there's no place to put them that's a good and by the way I was raised on the spear tip of the movement for rights and care for people with intellectual disabilities my aunt you know strivers my godmother's founded special Olympics my cousin founded best buddies I worked in special Olympics when I was still called a camp driver like Maria's driver yeah

she's right Maria's mom Maria's my cousin oh well you met old Schwarzenegger before yeah he's my cousin law of course yeah that's crazy bro that's crazy I remember seeing true lies remember that movie pretty good let me think of one more question do we have any other good video questions to come in Nick has one yeah so you talked about how like Tony Fauci he doesn't make it 50 years in the industry without like holding water for the companies who are some like current politicians senators or governors that you see out there who like are really speaking truth and that are someone to listen to that aren't being are there

any that you you feel like are somewhat well you know there's only one guy in Congress at this point who is who it stood up and he's a Republican congressman from Florida named Bill Fauci and he is you know he is fantastic and he understands he you know but he's been he's been completely isolated by his own party by the Republicans in Congress they won't let him near any committees and there you know there's a little these senior scientists for CDC a guy called Bill Thompson Dr. Bill Thompson who's at CDC today and he's been there for 20 years in 2014 he came forward and he said we've been lying to

the public about autism we he's the scientist who is the lead author on virtually every study on autism and he said we've been destroying the evidence the data when it shows the children are getting autism from vaccines and in fact on the key study which is called which is a study published in pediatrics in 2004 and it's called the DeSteffano study he was one of the five co-authors and the their boss Frank DeSteffano when they found out that black boys who got the MMR vaccine on time had 360% greater chance of getting autism than and children who didn't get it on time and the five or the four co-authors were

ordered by DeSteffano to bring all the evidence on black boys into a conference room at CDC and then to destroy the evidence in big garbage cans and this scientist came forward he tried to commit suicide and he came forward hired an attorney and he said I want to be subpoenaed to Congress to talk about what's happening in my agency remember he's still at CDC this is not a disgruntled employee he's a guy who sticks to his story he was transferred out of that division the vaccine branch into another division and but otherwise they leave him alone and they gave him a $25,000 raise you know they don't want

him to leave because when he leaves he's gonna talk and bill policy for the last six years have been trying to subpoena him in front of the committee and I talked to Jason Chaffetz who is the head of the government oversight committee a Republican from Utah he promised to subpoena Thompson and then he wouldn't do it I talked to Trey Gowdy who replaced him he wouldn't do it I talked to Daryl Iso who I think is a congressman from this district and Daryl Iso promised to hold hearings and then quit I said to him after he quit I said well I called him and I said why did you do that and he said

because I got calls I'm the speaker of the house and the head of our party is saying that if I conducted those hearings not only would I lose my chairmanship but I would be thrown off the committee and so you know the pressure they're getting from the not just the Democratic Party which is terrible on this issue but the Republican Party they've all been bought off oh and that's a sad thing was did was there any was there ever a chance that Trump was like this this alternate piece that could have brought down the whole system yes and you know when I first met because I wanted Trump and

Bernie you have to be on the same ticket that's what I wanted because then I thought why do why do you just get to pick your vice president why don't you have to why don't you have that's what they used to do was a separate election for was it really yeah yeah because then why don't you have a different type of person as your vice president then you have to argue about everything you know yeah it seemed easy to pick some guy well that's not how we do it but doesn't the president just pick the vice president he picks them yeah well they have to be nominated by the party oh I see okay but anyway going back to that

um yeah what I think a lot of people thought that Trump was gonna be okay there's this huge sis this clock that's running and I'm gonna throw this fucking wrench into it and watch it crumble was that ever a possibility I think it was a possibility for a short time and I think what I heard was that after we we left the um that there were people within the administration including Hope Hill Kellyanne Conway and I think one of their husbands is a pharmaceutical lobbyist and and rents previous who had just told him you can't do it and then they took the money from Pfizer and you know we were alive for a while through we were

alive from January when he takes the other office through March and everybody in the agencies was terrified of us we were going to the agencies and we were questioning them and making presentation yeah having boys about town with with Francis Collins and then at one point in mid-March you know the lobbyist came in a czar and godly but all those guys came in and we got a note from Francis Collins just basically you know it was like a big bird like you know we don't have to listen to you anymore so stop talking to us and now and then like the White House went dark do you feel like with the with Biden that with

the new president or well first of all do you feel like the election was fair do you feel like they'll have any what do you feel like the outcome will be from that do you feel like I think you know listen they'll go through the judicial process my feeling is that that the courts are gonna uphold the election I don't think you know I don't have any doubt about that the in terms of Biden's Biden has made a lot of statements that are very disheartening about you know mandating masks you know really coming down hard on the lockdown really you know it's become part of the weirdly of the liberal ideology of just you know

getting rid of civil rights and you know religious exemptions so all the rights the First Amendment the censorship they're supporting that you know the religious independence they're supporting the end of jury trials which is you know we're abolished for vaccines and and public assemblies and the right to petition politicians and all of these things that have been been part of the liberal tradition in Western democracy but particularly in the United States the liberals the traditional liberals in my party are have just walked away from them and I would the weirdest sermo surrealistic way now is there any do I

have any hopes for Biden Biden has appointed to his COVID committee a number of hacks who are just part of Fauci's network but he also brought in David Kessler who is the used to be the attorney general I mean the surgeon general and David Kessler is the one person that I think gives me hope because he is an independent thinker he he's an enemy of pharma he understands that you know that there's a problem with the vaccines and so I think you know for those of people in this audience who want to encourage that that you know he's a guy that people should should write letters to and should you know should

contact and say express all of us need to express hope in Kessler that a lot of people are are hoping that he will break with the orthodoxy that I think is taking us down this dark road in our country it's getting dark man here's a beautiful young fellow right here who has something to ask you what up Theo what up mr. Kennedy that feels so cool to say Matt from North Carolina here just sitting here at work like an American shout out to Theo for that hitter oh yeah nice merch man it's a beautiful one so my question for Robert personally I'm a huge advocate and fan of JFK I'm sure he was probably the coolest

uncle ever but my question is a little bit personal like what are the last moments or memories or maybe your favorite moments and memories that you had of Uncle Johnny appreciate you taking the time for my question much respect gang gang you know I'm sure you always get a question about your uncle huh um you know I listen my I have a lot many many great memories of my uncle I mean I think probably one of my what did y'all eat do y'all eat what clam chowder did you really we did eat a lot of clam chowder man that's nice but you know Boston beans but clam chowder hot dogs you think hot dogs hot dogs popular

when you're a kid yeah of course hot dogs hamburgers I when I was I think eight or nine years old I wrote a letter to my uncle that I still have and asking him because I was worried about the environment about pollution and I wrote him a letter saying that I wanted to talk to him about it and he he had me come into the oval office and I spent a morning with my brother the night before I caught a salamander big spotted salamander that come out you know in the spring to the breeze you know what they are right oh yeah I know what they are yeah like a land snake so um and I brought him one of those and I with my

my home had just switched from well water to municipal water and you upset about that I was because the chlorine killed the salamander and but I was in denial about about him being dead and I brought him in a vase and I and came to my uncle and he was poking him with a pen I have these pictures so and saying you know I don't think he looks well and I was saying no he's just sleeping he's okay and he took me out and we released him in the Rose Garden fountain but he he arranged ultimately for me to meet with Rachel Carson who came to our home and I and his board I'm in in Virginia at Hickory L and had dinner at our house

and and also with Stuart Udall who was the secretary of the interior and so that was pretty cool but you know he came to our house he rode we rode every morning horses my dad would take us riding every morning and my uncle sometimes would come I went to the hearings when they were when they had the Mafia when they had Sam Giancana, Jimmy Hoffa, all the big mafios and my dad this before the White House when he was still in the Senate and I went attended those hearings when I was a little kid and you know looked at all these gangsters and he's had in the front row and and then you know so our

family was a was a very very close family and and they landed with the helicopters every weekend he would after he landed he would go up and he would kiss my grandpa and they would talk my grandpa had a stroke by then he would talk to my grandpa and tell him what happened that week then he would come down from the porch and he we would all pile into a golf cart that was souped up golf golf cart with 20 kids on it and he would give us a ride around the compound at very fast speeds and typical uncle behavior huh yeah it was it was a really it was a magical god it sounds like it we used to ride behind the

mosquito truck and get that free gas yeah come off of it you know nose up probably just literally be just biking until we couldn't even take anymore you know I mean I would have more games behind them because it was you know that fog that stayed on that hug the ground good and we thought it was good for us back yeah we sure did it was a different time battling the the environment on the outside of us and on the inside of us Bobby thanks for coming in today I really appreciate it for having me yeah anything else Nick or any other questions yeah thank you so much man appreciate it man yeah you too always a

pleasure man always you're always welcome back and now I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my hands and these wheels that I've been riding on they want something that they damn they're gone now cuz now they just work