This Past Weekend - E320 Jim Breuer
Episode Date: February 7, 2021Theo sits down with SNL alum and Half Baked icon, Jim Breuer, to discuss the state of comedy, crazy Norm MacDonald stories and Jim's journey of caring for his father. New Merch https://theovons...tore.com https://bit.ly/theo-von This episode is brought to you by: BlueChew: https://bluechew.com and use promo code THEO The Zebra: https://thezebra.com/theo Babbel: https://babbel.com and use promo code THEO for an extra 3 months free Modiphy: https://modiphy.com/theo to schedule your free demo today Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com Music: “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw Producer: Nick Davis https://instagram.com/realnickdavis Producer: Sean Dugan https://www.instagram.com/SeanDugan/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today's guest is um, I mean the dad the dude is just a real
You know, he's gone the road most traveled and then
The road he wanted to travel
We're gonna learn, you know, I don't know if we're gonna learn shit, but we're gonna do our best man
I'm just honored to be here here with him today. I actually met him 20 years ago
But neither one of us really remembers it. But um, but we'll get into it ladies and gentlemen, mr. Jim
I
Once you realize the point of you're not in it for the rest of the world
You're in it for you
And for what you want to put out there. I don't care what this one says
What movie they'll put me I don't care. Yeah is this is
You can't get a better life than what you're doing right now. Yeah, you can't
You you beat the system. Yeah, that is uh
Uh
There's no
better thing in life
You control your destiny. Yeah, I think I feel sometimes are we rolling John? I think I feel sometimes like
There's always this thing like
Like if you don't there's like a validation this like this this invisible validation
You know I'm talking about that comes from it's this hollywood thing
It's like, oh if I don't you know, I could have I could be selling tickets
But if I'm not on the tonight show man, I'm a no, you know, there's no
I don't have that. I haven't been licked by the goose or something, you know
Of course, let's say I start I started out. I wanted to be accepted by
By this guy and this guy and this comedian because all comedians are like unless you're accepted by
This guy or that guy right and um, you're not in
I'm not in and and to be honest with you. I didn't like any of them because
I didn't like any of them. They were
I I grew up
Uh, very very family oriented
Morals grounded
Uh, when I grew up it was god
family
friends
Everyone looks after each other
This industry is I'll slice slice your throat. I'll dance
In your blood and then videotape it and make money. Yeah. Yeah, and and it's uh
Uh
It's traumatizing is the best word to use it and uh, I I went through I went through a lot
Through the whole coming up the whole system. I learned so much. I'm glad what I learned
You know, sometimes I reflect I talk a lot about uh, you you're talking about things
God has so much sound. I don't even know where to start. So yeah, no
Thanks for coming in man. It started with the clubs
Doing the city clubs and uh, the city in new york city and uh,
You know, it was it was uh, I can I knew there was envy and and people were jealous and
Like, uh, what am I doing to bother you? What am I doing to bother you?
Right. I'm doing my set and this is bothering you. It's bothering you that they're laughing
Yeah, what is going on? So uh, as as time went on at hollywood, I realized
It is it was the most vile
It's soulless. Yeah
Right. There's yeah, you look for this you look to think at some point
This thing has to have a heart or some compassion and there's and it never turns that and if anything
It's it lures you in and going. No, I'm here for you
I'm gonna give you some honesty and compassion and then when you're not looking
It's uh, yeah, it's pretty it's uh, it'll make sushi out of you. It doesn't even
I mean, it's it'll make fucking sashimi. Traumatizing is a good word, man
Like I have uh, I have a friend who just got in trouble. He was using a they called him that he was using a racial slur and
and it's crazy like
they uh
So our news outlets this was fascinating to me news outlets that never would have even paid attention to him before
Or now like put like just using the term racial slur in their headlines, right? So basically they're using
his
Mess up, you know, his mistake to just to get their clicks and it's like, yeah, it's just because they're
In the way, they're using the word now
Like they're using the racial, you know, I'm saying they're then using it and I don't understand what that is or where it comes from
But I consider all them bottom feeders. Yeah, they're complete bottom feeders and
But there's people there's real humans that are attached to the
That are in the tank, you know, and it's during the tank their days are coming. Yeah, I you can't live
forever with with with trying to do that to people did you um
So was there a point where you kind of felt like okay? I'm gonna take myself out of this some or I'm gonna
Oh, yeah slow this train down like I just remembered just from an outsider's perspective
I just remember dang that's Jim Brewer, man. He's one of the funniest guys that there is and he's a star
Like I didn't I never noticed that you like separated yourself from
Like some of the vibe or the industry or something. Did did you feel like you kind of did that? Oh, I know I did it was
first it was the
What once
You know, I kind of got I won't say shot out of a car. I had a drive. I was confident. I was cocky. So in 89
I decided this is what I'm doing forever, right? And I was the I was doing
Clubs and it was out of florida. Were you doing well then?
Yeah, and I had goals. I was like I'm gonna come house emcee to the middle and then went a middle
I'm gonna make your life miserable. Yeah trying to follow. That's it was fun
And I loved that. Oh being in the middle was fucking good. You get off to 22 minutes. You're a fucking legend
crushing it
And then they're like we want to flop you not not for the same pay you're not
I went through that stage. You're like oh like following the kid. Yeah. Oh, yeah
There's always that guy dude. Yeah, and then you meet and then you come across some people that that school you
Yeah, oh, you think I've never seen something like you before
Okay, you know what? I'll go up before you ping-pang ping-pang
Follow that kid. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't flip flop. Yeah, and then um once
TV started
Uh, I was actually on a on a an old black show called the Uptown Comedy Club. That was my first big
It wasn't huge, but it was that was a weekly show. It was syndicated Uptown Comedy Club
Was it so was it sketches and stuff? Yeah, no way when I say was it awesome. You know what it was?
It was it was the best
television show I've ever been on my life and why I say that because there were no egos
Uh, everyone was everyone was helping each other
I've and I thought this was
I thought this was the industry and not only that
They would they would talk to us like the producers was it was in Harlem. Yeah, it was on 125th and 5th in 89
Uh, no, this is 92
Damn, that must have been that was such a hype time too. There was so much like
I'm sure especially in Harlem. There was like just a lot of fun energy in the air. Oh my god
And it was it was it was a tough area. Oh, yeah
So it's only a shot. Yeah, that's awesome, dude
It was it was Tracey Morgan was on that show and I'll never forget it
It taught me about uh, the hood. Yeah, and
And a different side of of what you it's just a completely different side of life that I
No college could ever teach you there's no politician could teach you when I'll never forget what happened was I heard
Pa pa pa pa pa pa, right and Tracey Morgan goes who got shot and I went. Oh, he heard the fireworks
He was uh, I wouldn't fire. So we got shot, but he said it
As as calmly yes, and then he went. Oh, he's across the street. Oh, he's struggling
And I still thought he was kidding like he's play by play like he's at Michael suddenly
Yeah, look at this guy. I can't even get another yard. Yeah, like, oh, he might get another bro. He's down
He's on the ground. He's flattened out. Oh, he's trying to get back up. He's up to his oh, he's down again
I was the he's out of bounds man when it comes to being alive. This guy's out of
Oh, and here comes the hecklers. Look at you now. Look it is nothing worse of being shot
You're getting heckled and now the hecklers come while you're struggling for your life
For your life. Oh, he leaking. He leaking
And he was leaking hard and I'll never forget the one guy had no teeth. He came up. I swear to god. He goes
You smelled it
That's like you smell the smoke. It smelled like when I was involved
In vietnam you could still smell the smoke
Then I went oh my god
And I'll never forget just the blood is dripping over the curb
And and it's going down the drain
Yeah us and and then the paramedics come like, yeah, you know, so two Jews walking a bar
And I got a Greek joke for you, but and it's still look at you now. Yeah, looky
I was like what look all right. Let's go back to rehearsing
And then a church choir shows up also though for no reason that the air like it's just amazing, dude
Yeah, so that to go from that to uh
Then the real hollywood came and I'll tell you what I'll let you in I'll lose something
But I'm not gonna drop names. Okay, but I'll never forget
These are black producers
A guy named kevin brown and andre brown
And he was later on 30 rock, but he they would come to us and they would tell us about vanity
And losing your mind in hollywood and be careful and they came back from hollywood
To try and expand us and they sat us down like you ain't gonna believe what we saw
I mean, what was you see and they said we saw so-and-so huge name
so-and-so
huge name
and so-and-so
Big name back in the day
Chicken Hawking at a party and I went
What?
See you're white. I said, what's chicken Hawking? Everyone like
He's white. You don't know chicken. I said, what's chicken Hawking?
That's when you uh hanging out with boys at a transvestite. I said, what?
What?
Uh, see now you now you're telling stories now you're telling stories. Yeah
But
I never forgot that
Three years later this name
Huh busted chicken Hawking that one's sick this one being busted. Yeah
Huh, they swept that up. That's what I call
I to me hollywood's a mafia
It's a big dark mafia. Yeah, it is and then what happens is I remember one of them. It was like
The mobsters come they're like we understand not mobsters like Italian right right whatever you're talking about. Yeah, the attorneys
Yeah, right and they come along like listen you sign this you do some movies there
We'll put the soul on the table. We got enough money make this go away
Ping it's gone. No one ever brings it up. No one ever brings it up with this person
And there's two or three of them huge
Huge but
I guess what I'm saying is by the time
I started doing sound it live and I have baked blah blah
And and tv thing, you know tim allen all this shit it was
That's when I really saw how dark
And so it's just it was
It's
I get creeped out. I get scared to death
It was soulless. Yeah, never seen anything it and I still every time I get out there. I feel like
I just I don't feel life
Out there. Yeah, I feel it at all
You know what? I know I've always said when I get off the plane there. I feel like I'm in the office. It always like
I just feel like I'm in an office constantly
It always every light feels like a fluorescent light. It feels like it never ends
But it's hard to find it is it's hard to find a comfort out there
But there's always this dangle
Of a carrot. Yeah, and it's a carrot and I don't even know what it is because like
It's vanity. It's vanity. It's vanity. Is it?
You know you want this, right? You know you want this
You're better than so-and-so. You know you're better than so-and-so
You get this then it'll be worth this. Yeah, and then you're and then your road will be worth this
You want to be you think that person deserves to be in arenas or on billboards? You should be on take you want it
It's there's a little bad. No, I believe that I'm that's what we're so as you're saying it
I'm thinking that I'm thinking I'm trying to feel like you know a lot of times things will land for me in my
Feelings like is it vanity is it? It's bad. Yeah, it's something of ego. It's ego and vanity. Yeah, it's ego
It's vanity. I want to be better than them
Yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's uh, it's not easy
No, it's not easy. Well, and I I think also
You start to see the others like you start to see the other side of it too where it just
There's never like an understanding you never get to talk to the person to have the conversation about what's
It's just there's never any real instructions. It's all kind of vague
The business is vague the money is it's all it's all vague and there's all extra people always stacked in at the last minute
You've never met right and they are they're living and they own your family now. They're just crazy your grandfather's now their grandfather
It's a non-stop Scarface movie. Yeah, you got it. You got the money got there. Oh 70 you
What just happened we thank you
What's going on they're cutting you they're putting you in a commercial for bone sauce as they're cutting you in half
You know put this dress on and then take out your ticker pants off and this is gonna get you big time
Got it sick man. Here's a question right here. They came in from someone. This isn't live Jim
This is just a man that sent this right here. Sure. What up Jim huge fan man
Man ever since half baked man
Anyways, I've been a comedian for about five years. What do you think the future is for us here with covid going on?
By the way, man, why your eyes always look so high gang gang
um
Future question what is kind of we have do you think some of the future on things slowed down during covid for sure?
I mean a lot of stages are still open
It's one of the reasons why I ended up coming here because stages are open and because it's a free state here, you know, but
um
But yeah, it's what do you think man? Where do you see kind of
Comedy going like do you see anything different? Does this stage still hold the same?
Like this is the last point of uh, I'll tell you what after doing last night in uh, um
Zany's last night
I felt like I was in a 2000 seat theater. Wow the electricity
of of people
Was explosive and there was a there was a um a woman a little older on my right chatter and and
I don't want a mustache. No. No, she's she's eating her chips and everyone's like
And I turned on what are you okay?
Yeah, you know having fun and she went I'm just enjoying being out
I'm just having my chips and I'm just so happy. I don't have a mask on I'll start paying attention a minute
And I started I laughed so hard and what I feel you to crouch here
There's a um
Live is never gonna die
Even if we have to go back to the 20s and do it in people's houses, you're not gonna stop that
Right, that's the will of humanity
You can't stop us from being social as though they're doing their darndest. Yeah, whoever they are
But they're doing a they're doing everything they can to scare the living life out of you
To to try to convince you that you are capable of murdering your grandmother
and feeling guilty about
About hugging people and being with one another to me. That's
That's the cult. Oh, you know, they point fit. That's the real cult the ones that are going
You know, are you ready to live your life knowing you killed your grandmother?
You're the cult. You're the problem. That stems from pure
Dark. There's nothing good about that. We're only here one time. We need to hug
We need to see smiles. We need to touch. That's humanity. You take that away
It's over. Yeah, if you take that away, what's the point? I'm just here
I'm just a you know, I'm a piece of a video game that can't even really play
You know, that's what they want and people fall for it. A whole client say they would watch the news like this
Like a parakeet
The numbers are going up the numbers are going up
The numbers are going up where you ask where you ask where you ask
Where you ask
Grandma killer grandma killer grandma killer
Oh my god, get back in your cage. Yeah, please. Oh, I don't know what you know people always ask them
I don't know where we're going because every time I think I know where we're going
Uh
Then boom
The tiktok verdi person takes off and then the instagram person takes off and a podcast takes off
No one knows what what people want to or
Or comedy is wide open. Everyone needs to laugh and there's
and and there's
Every extreme
Type of comedy. So yeah, it's never gonna die. You need to laugh but back to that guy's question
I don't know where it's going. I don't know. I don't know. I have no clue. I'm not worried about it
I can only do what I can
Control right 53
Uh, you know, I still need someone to help me with I need this guy. I just found this guy
That's son. Yeah, I just found my Sean. I'm like you need to edit. Yeah
I started podcast. I'm looking at my podcast a new podcast
Yeah, I've been doing it, but then I stopped because I don't I have to call the guy
Right. Yeah, you got to get around the system the person would and he caused the girl
Yeah, I'm like wait with the cables. Yes. I just I think I could post in two weeks. I need Sean
Yeah, who goes okay first of all the lights like I was watching what I filmed Wednesday
And there's a shadow over my face every two seconds like I gotta I gotta look somewhat professional
I get it. My microphone still look anything like this. I can look like a bebop that fucking ham radio style
Yeah, so
I I need I just found a Sean. I have to tighten up
But you have to you have to just people would love it man. Your voice needs to be out there
I think you know people would absolutely love it. Uh, it's there's there's neat guys starting when Dana Carvey started one
He's a good human being. Oh Dana Carvey is this exceptional man. He's a good human being. He's such a sweet, uh, dad
And he's a loving guy and he's very
He's realistic. He's like respectful of everyone but also realistic and so smart
Yep, that you just have to listen to him when he talks kind of
um, and he can drift from a story into like a
Into funny like from so real and funny like and like like a stream almost you don't even notice it flowing
You know like the guy's blood to the fucking drain, you know, yeah, yeah
Yeah, and he's a he's like you say he's a real human being. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm always rooting for Dana Carvey
Yeah, I'm always checking like what's going on with Dana Carvey
Yeah, he's a neat guy and he got a he took off a show business for a while and went and just lived his life and raised his kids in
uh, San Francisco
Yeah, I
Did you guys work together? I don't even remember. I don't know a ton of he hosted he hosted when I was on san it live
Okay, he couldn't have been nicer
Couldn't have been more giving couldn't have been uh, he was he was like the big brother
That came he was the frat brother that came so let me tell you about the frat house here
Right. Oh nice. Let me tell you about the ways and yeah, so he was
He's always charmed. He was charming and you remember those things. You remember when you crossed people's paths what they were
um
That's a good point, but I do I do uh, it was right after
A guy like him who was at the end of snl half baked
Came out
And I was just done with the whole industry really I was I was done
Were you burnt out also though physically and stuff? Do you think from I mean, were you just exhausted emotionally? Yeah emotion emotional
It was it was
It was so exhausting
San it live was
It it was
As much as as the times when you're up to bat and you hit the ball in the upper deck
to just to get to the plate
Is so exhausting. Yeah, this one takes your idea
Right, this one takes party idea and does it but you can't say no because he's the one that's in the room with
Lauren picking the sketches
Yeah, and then you finally step up to this person and now you're a problem and you're like what the it was it was and my wife
My wife
There's times when I really wanted to knock her flat on her back. Oh, yeah, she don't get it
You don't get it. Yeah, and she'd be like, no, you don't get it
You don't get it. I can see what you don't see and so I remember
She was looking at me in New York City and she goes, you know
Why you just quit?
What are you? Are you?
Are you listening to yourself? You don't quit you grind through dopey
Are you seriously out of your mind? You just nubs in a wheelchair. Don't you even?
Yeah, she's like you're smoking. What's her name? What's her first name? D. Yeah, D. Don't you even fucking know D?
You don't know shit. You don't quit showbiz. I'm on top of the kid. You see his tattoo. You see his tattoo
It says SNL alum
Daniac Roy blue shit. It's a loam carvey farley. I'm in it
I'm in the club and you can't take those stripes up. I'm in it. Yeah millions of people trying to get me. I'm in it
Yeah, there's people buying my doll. Yeah
People doing that in aisles right now
So she's going dead guys man a lot of dead guys die like that
You have a guy i'm a detective just saying yay. We got another uh, we got another um, uh, jim brew impersonator over here guys
Come see it. Yeah, look at this mook over here. He's dropping a douche and then that was it shows over
Stunk like a summer gun trying to keep the flies out was the tough part
Here's a question from a guy right here that can't wait. Well, let's finish up
So D got you out, but having her perspective helped. Is that what you're saying or no? It was scary as hell
But her perspective has always helped on many things that have happened in my life
Many things that have happened, but she's like look at you
You smoke and pot non-stop
You're becoming a an angry person
Uh, and it's just
It's consuming your life and you don't you always this one's you talking about stealing, but she's like I sort my own two eyes
Why do you need so bad? You're talented like, you know
You don't you don't you just don't yeah, and
We did and I remember
The matter who we had
We had producers movie producers she didn't kiss me. I don't like that guy's an asshole. He
He made this movie in this movie. He's an he made bridges in Madison County. Yeah, he's he's an asshole
And and and this guy made babe pig in the city
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What's this guy up to? Yeah, what is this fucking homeowner and we started a family
What look at this guy so that's the end of this right and we started a family and we started
Now i'm three kids deep and pregnant. That's how it is and pregnant. That's right. That's what happened
It is we were done with it with the s and l went the same fan
Let's do this
Kid came out all his head was all stretched. It was a mess
Hey, man, how you doing?
Jim want to give a shout out to first off momentum high school and just have these pizzeria
Uh, chest in new jersey. I know I know you're familiar with that area
Uh, talking and speaking of new jersey wanted to ask you as a question
um
Give me some underrated new jersey stand-up comics starting there's so much talent in our state
Uh, and I know you got a good pulse on that so give me give me three names that maybe we don't know about that
I should be following
Is the stage is open there?
Yes, no, um
That's a fair answer. Yes, I know
Uh, yes, the answer is yes because I was doing um, like Tuesday nights at the stress factory
Oh, yeah, but he has the set up outside
which is
bigger than the inside
And they were uh, he really did it smart. He did he tinted the whole thing in
Heat. I mean it was in December. It was freezing
But the only mishap is
Behind you is the parking garage
So, you know, you're 15 minutes in and there's a
And then a stousel abuse, don't forget
Yeah, you stoop and shock your face. What were you looking at him for?
I wasn't looking at him, I'm dead and you get out of the car, you and
So
Uh
Yes, but then I just played
Uh
What's the place it's it's it's in red bank. I played there
The vulgar the outdoor place. Was it indoor? It was indoor. Uh, yeah, the red bank. It's like a theater. It's called the vulgar
There is there is the count Basie. Yeah count Basie. That's what I played at but they can't do count Basie
So now they have the vulgar which was only it it was a beautiful theater within the count Basie
Oh, nice. And so but it was you know, it's like 200 people and they have to wear masks
No
The first show I did where they have to wear a mask
It was awkward. Was it? Yeah, it was weird. You could tell they were annoyed
And they can't even and what if they want to do? I guess they got no snacks, huh? No snacks
They had snacks, but they're literally like make sure just go like that
Yeah, because the governor lives in the town and he comes in I understand you're not
Keeping up with the rules and regulations
This is for your safety
You don't want to kill your grandmother, do you? Yeah
I see we are at 27 percent. There will be a rest maid
It's crazy man. Yeah, I just don't understand in most people's minds because it's crazy some of the smartest people I know
So go along with everything that's going on here so easily. It's like how do you not see?
So what the numbers on some on some news channel that their only goal is keep you watching
But if you drive by the hospital or if you look by I you can go to a clinic walking clinic here
There's nobody like how does it not weigh to people that to at least alert in their heads?
Something is not right here
I I think more people
know
Something's not right. I think also
They're doing a real good job with the eye candy fear
and
I'm wondering if it's gonna break
Like when you're on the highway and everyone's afraid to pass the state trooper. Oh, yeah, even though he's going 60
You're like, well, I can't get pulled over again 65. Yeah, and then the one finally does rock. Let's fall this guy
Yeah, I saw this way like then as soon as you enough you
You got I kind of feel the minute if it ever happens and it has to happen. Yeah, where
People go we're not shutting down
But you need a couple people to do. Yeah, you find me. So what you can't nothing these things are laws
Right, right. If you ever end up going to a court, you're gonna you're gonna somehow win but you win. Yeah
It's scared to we find you. So what we're gonna revoke you. Go ahead. Yeah, you can't you don't have
You can't make the law. So, you know, we could talk about it. So all we want but no one's doing anything
Right and that that's the scary part, but it is bizarre to me
How many people will watch this and then no and then they'll come after me foaming at the mouth going, you know
And they're things always the same people like you're lying. Yeah, I tell you people died
And I feel like going no, do you know how many people that you believe died because of what you're watching? Right
You know, I was on a podcast here like I couldn't even find a dead person
I bet you if you gave me two hours right now, I couldn't find a dead person from covid
If I went door to door, I'm talking banging even breaking and entering doing anything coming in the back door
Smoking people out doing a fire in the back standing by the front with a net or uh, I bet I couldn't
I'm serious, bro. I bet I couldn't find
One fucking dead person. I haven't found one. I have I have a couple. First of all, I had it
Uh, my daughter had it. My wife had it
Um, another good friend his whole family had it
It for us. It was a bit. It was a cold. Right. It was a bad cold. Um, oh, yeah, I agree. I believe there's a flu
I believe there's a special variant of a flu going. There's always a flu in the winter. Yeah
There's flu. There's colds bronchitis. It's all gone. It's funny how all that stuff is gone. Yeah
It's just gone
Where's the and people will hear this and be like, no, it's not me
But it is though if you think about all the time you heard about it
Like you just have to trust the logic on my head. I don't even think I'm coming from a place of judgment
I think I'm just coming from a real place inside of me that feels like this doesn't make sense
It makes zero sense. Yeah, that's common sense and that's and what they're pushing is the whole
It's science. Science doesn't have common sense, but you can manipulate numbers. You can manipulate science to to scare tactic
That's the difference. So you can put science as your religion and as your fact or whatever it still
doesn't define
logic, yeah
And I'd rather die by some logic man like my mom's
My mother's a hard work and been working all life. She's like if I die, I die, you know, like I don't want to be
I don't want to never see anybody the last four years of my life. Listen
This is a good story, but I always bring this up. I don't want to bum people out. It's not like what but my wife
2012
Uh, first time she had breast cancer, right? Boom. Breast come off of a lot. She's gonna go on that. Wow breast off, huh?
Oh, yeah, that is sort of a whole shebiggle
2014 it comes back in a lymph node. It's got to take it out. Do the chemo and all that jazz
Um, we are now to the 2016
end of the year
Hey
Bad news. It's everywhere. Oh, it's everywhere but her brain
What do we do? Oh, she's got a couple months. We'll give her pain
Medicine or she can live on a trial
So she's been on a trial drug in philadelphia. It'll be it'll just pass four years
Thank you god now
The point of that story is we've already been living
The life of common sense
And she too. Oh the family and everyone else are the ones that go, you know, I gotta be very careful
And and you know your immune system and jim shouldn't travel as much. She's like, you know what?
Yeah, I know knows when we're gonna die. Yeah, I'm not gonna live recklessly
But you're not gonna control my life and how I should live and the way I should live because you are scared
And my wife and I live it's interesting the way we live and and we when we would go somewhere if I saw someone sick
I'd go. Hey man, don't go over there because that guy's sick
I'm not gonna ask the whole place
to wear a mask
And and double down because my what that's my responsibility. Right. That's my thing
That's part of the you know, if you if you're 400 pounds and you got you get the gout three times a year
And you have diabetes back you gotta be careful with everything but back off the sugar shrimp for sure
Exactly, whatever you're doing
You gotta take it down a level bronchitis is gonna take you out. Yeah a hard staircase is gonna take you out
Yeah, so this whole mentality
Is pure insanity
And it makes no sense. And you know what? I don't care about people's backlash anymore. Yeah, I know it's right
I know it's in my heart of heart. I know what common said god gave us
Common sense. Yeah thought process
Instinct your instinct tells you something weird is going on. Yeah common sense tells you something weird is going on
Yeah, nobody you can't so yeah, you're right on it man. You gotta live your life
Yeah, I want to live my life not like an idiot, but you live your life
Yeah, yeah, I want and I want to like that's what I want. It's like I think that's the thing and like
You know a lot of people have also the the side effects of people dying
Are struggling from like um being hurt from like addiction or not seeing their loved ones broken hearted
The gay that they had a fellow beautiful fellow gay gentleman that was a piano player at the comedy store
And he died because a lot of people think he died just because he got so lonesome, you know
And it's that's guesstimated, but the guy for 25 years had been a pianist right there for the best, you know
My youngest daughter has has put on weight
She's depressed
She hates school. She's the love it
Because she's got to wear a mask and won't let him stay together
She she she said being in a cubicle cubicle her friends
It's it's the worst thing you could be doing a humanity and
Anyone that wants to fiercely defend it
I'm ready to go at it with you. Yeah, I don't have to tell you
You're not going to control me and the billions of people that feel the same way
It's over and there's a lot of people that yeah, there's a lot of people that feel the same way
And we just have to start speaking up in small ways and also I think just speaking up in our actions, you know
Like be respectful
And but also just speak up in our actions like that doesn't mean go out and do something bad or something aggressive
It just means stand your ground for what you believe also stand your ground
Be fearless. Yeah fearless and I you know, I was on a podcast where I don't know
um
Who was it chris de stephanem who was fit Simmons? Oh, greg fit Simmons fits dog. He's he's uh, I'm known a while
But he's he toes a line. He's he's he's in it. Yeah
He's in the la world and he keeps going back and I just kept going king hitting the ball right
Don't give me that nonsense, bro. And he's a good guy and we can hang forever, but
He tried a little bit like no no. He's a guy. Do you believe this like? Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, see them own eyes
You know, there's a guy
We have this crew
where I live
Uh, we it's an amazing community that we built and this is who I'm gonna start bringing on my podcast because they're
I I don't mind being funny, but I also my big
Struggle Theo is uh
You could say it. I've struggled with pornography mostly
I don't struggle with that. Oh, you don't no. No. No. No. I probably did when I was younger
I think everybody does it's a racket, but I'll tell you why that's bad too. Oh, it's bad. It's horrible
I'll tell you why that's that's real bad. That is another oversaturated well targeted
um
And it's it's
I always I always say this you remember the first time you saw it. Oh, yeah
Everyone was drawing just do nick in our town two dollars. He would draw you some cooter for the weekend, right?
So you'd hit them up on friday or thursday night if you wanted a good sketch, right?
But even on friday afternoon, you could get a scribble. I remember this and he would freaking law
You know, he'd launch you out that two dollar hit bruh and you'd keep it all weekend
And then somebody chiseled a set of tits into like a birch tree and people would go out there and jerk off by it
Kids and adults bro. Not at the same time, but you know, you had to be respectful
But you know, everybody was out. I remember that it was a good time for me. It was it was
Phil's dad's tape. Oh, Phil. Come on. And we were let's call Phil
And Phil dad get his fucking 80 year old dad on the line and talk about the lives he's ruined
Phil's dad's tapes
He I was I don't care where anyone says when you first see you're traumatized. It's crazy
You look at the whole world differently. You look at women differently
Yeah, you you go from staring at them to staring at them. Yeah, and you think that's why
And if you notice it's got more violent
More evil as time went you know like this whole thing. Oh, yeah
Who came up with if it can't even do that
Smack smack. Who who said I love you so much smack smack. I love you
You so
God, I love you. Yeah, that is legal rape
A lot of Heimlich went over this all there's all types of like, you know, let me wait
Well, I gotta punch in your temple right before your orgasm. Let me know when you let me pink
You said you were orgasm. You said you were going there
Come on. We gotta do this again
Are you sure this time good
You're crazy
It's legal
Rape and I yeah, it's crazy that that in like that. It's just it's freaking bizarre man
It's the dark arts dude
I was addicted to it for a while and I do pretty good these days, you know
But every now and then it seeps in man, you know, it's hard to keep it out
I will not
See now when I once I had daughters
That's another whole. Oh, it'd be different. I have three girls. So it in my head. I'm always like
Oh god
If I do this is it gonna come back around?
Yeah, I'm one of those guys if I do this that's wiener karma dog
So it is but you're right and I've got like someone's gonna come in and and my
Kid's gonna be into this and it all sparked but that's how I I I think like that's that energy flow yet
Because it could be possible. Here's a guy right here. He used to be a mime who fucking is recovering
He's a recovering mind. Look at that question. Yeah, beautiful fellow like before we even do it. I'm gonna predict. Okay
It's definitely in the hate half-baked world
I could see that maybe why what makes you say that his eyes he looks a little lit up
Oh, he does look a little bit up under little it up. But pink
But I don't know he's very confident with the shirt and hat
Uh, he looks like his name would be sam. He seemed like he has a very like a name. It's kind of ambiguous maybe I'm I'm gonna say
it's more of the uh
midwestern
Like midwestern name like a trevor. Okay. Yeah, a trevor. I can see trevor trance. We had a guy bus
Trant. I like that. Yeah, like a trant. Yeah, we had a guy bus named brunch growing up
Yeah, my varsity. Yeah, so vars
Let's see what he's got
What up, Theo? What up, Jim Brewer? My name is Danny. I'm from Clearwater, Florida
Um, Jim, I got a question for you, man
So I actually went to coconuts comedy club and did a comedy set there on open mic
And I heard that that's where you started out doing comedy
So I just got a question for you, man
How is it getting started in comedy and what do you recommend to be able to go with the time limit because the first time
I did comedy I swear to god
I lasted 30 seconds and then I said I can't do this and I walked off stage
The second time I did comedy I went 30 seconds over the five limit open mic time limit
So, uh, yeah words and advice would be appreciated much love gang gang, Theo gang, bro
Well, if you're Carlos Minci and now if you went that long, dude, you're basically your your Dave Chappelle
You've done it, bro. You saw if you went that long the second time you're doing fine. Yeah, yeah 100 100%
And yes, I used to do coconuts. That's kind of
The first chain that started giving me lots of work and yeah, a lot of them were Ramadas
Yeah, Ramada, dude at the happy hour. It doesn't matter. I just I wanted to work
So and I was way off with that kid the kid has a good soul. Oh, yeah, nice kid
They they used to have you know, people have been murdered at every Ramada at every Ramada
There's a uh, there's been a murder at every Ramada. Really now. Yeah, finally it took
Finally
You know, I was waiting for the hundred percent here. They were at 99 for a real long time
We were having like when is Biloxi?
It's right next to a Greyhound station. I thought it would go first. Come on
But yeah, man, pretty cool. There's a website that tracked it. There was like one of those like uh
This is like probably four years ago that there was the website finally closed down
But there was like murders at I guess every Ramada
You married uh, I'm not married explains ours
I'm willing I get and the reason why it says like wow if I had I because I couldn't imagine
Looking stuff like that up, but if I was alone and single
I'd be looking up some wild stuff just dropping facts that people weren't even prepared for me to slap down
Are you ready for this?
Ping. Yeah. Yeah, you know tarantulas have heavy feet
I'm like just fucking hitting them hard. Um, I uh
When you look back on some of those times, do you feel good about them?
Like when you look back on your your Hollywood times, I feel great about everything I did
Yeah, because I I do I love the journey I've been on. I love that
The move I made and I I did have resentment for a while
with a lot of things
Uh, I had animosity and anger
What was the anger about you feel like yeah, like is it's
Anger so hard to pinpoint sometimes and a lot of times it has to do with myself, you know, I find um
Because I can be angry at others, but they're just doing their thing. They don't fuck it, you know, they're just you know
This was a different anger. I'm I'm really I'm one of those guys too where I get angry
For
Injustice. Oh, yeah
So that
Infuriates me that makes me want to that makes me want to fight. Yeah. Um, and yeah, I want things to be fair
Just be fair and not for me. There's there was something
That was taken from me
And and sold
Oh, I see like a project or something you had. Yep, right on
And given to someone and I don't think that person even knows
And it blew up so big. Wow
So when I'm home
With my little babies and and trying to I wanted to stay home
Um, so I took a radio gig
And I'm watching
That that was a tough period and that's where that's where
I
See now, I do have like a deep moral godly
Thing and and I'm not afraid to talk about anymore. So at that time my wife, I'll never forget
She's like Jim as I was in my basement. Look, I was like right there. I met him
And I told him and then he's he gave me sold it to them. I'm turkey and she's like jimmy
I got 20 million dollars
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna put this out there and go and
I'm coming
Thief
lawyer
Lawsuit I was ready
He turned into Henry Rollins at the very end the first all that I believed until the very end
I feel like he turned into like Henry Rollins in black flag, you know, yes
I feel like you. Yes, and she goes. I'll never forget you like jim
Let him have it. I said, all right. Seriously. Is there something wrong with you?
There's something wrong with you. There's something wrong. You don't get so he's that's all they got
They don't have what you got. I got she's like you got a beautiful house
We got a couple acres
You said you want to be home with your girl. You're home with your girls. Yeah
You you go to a radio show for two hours a day with your best friends
That's fun. What? Yeah, but God just don't let him have it. If that's all they got
It'll catch up to him cut to
Five years later this one
crash
burn
People turn on him this one
plummets plummets
Beyond hard to the point. I started feeling bad like oh man. Yeah, it's terrible to have
the and and
The amazing part of it is
And I don't want to I don't want to lose to names or anything
Yeah, no, and I'm not asking you to but what is amazing for people what it can help is years later
See, I got to hold my dad
To his last breath, which is all I ever begged light as a god please all I wanted life is I don't want that man alone
I want to be I want to be there for him
world too bad
grew up in in Newport in in, uh, uh
Dayton, Kentucky Kentucky just not even the real Dayton. No
Cross the river from it's just
10 kids no mother
I mean
As raw as you can get I didn't realize my dad had that in until we saw Johnny Cash
For the first time all them together. No. Yeah, I was like 10 years old long island
um
Westbury music fair and he came out did the whole
Hello, I'm just bang bang bang bang bang and he goes
Yee-haw we live in Long Island. Yeah, what is he goes? I was born in Kentucky. I don't know
I'm a Kentucky guy. Heck Williams
senior not junior
Junior can be the senior juniors
And then I started so the point of the story is I'm all over the place, but
He never complained in life. This man could have complained about everything war for years
Uh, his his first so he was alcohol just the things he said never complained always there for me couldn't he was older
So he couldn't really interact much, but he was always there solid never talk
I think I remember four conversations with my dad, but they were powerful. They were powerful
He was just stepping like you you talking about when you started playing with your donkey in the pictures
When I went through that phase, he saw the pictures and they're like, hey, hey
What are you doing?
They don't let your mother see that's really disturbing. Yeah enough with that. Yeah enough of that shit
Enough of that shit
We're gonna play you die. It's gonna get you in trouble. Okay, dad
So he was really old
He he was he was uh 45 when he had me my mom was 42. I was in accident. My mom had
My mom 42 to have a kid's older back then right back then
So my mom would tell me she should have like three martinis like you know
He was supposed to be an abortion
Because they said you'd be retarded
That's just you're saying you're like I got pretty close mom. I said well look at me
Yeah
I look at at least I tried I try to try my best
Well, they said I beat down syndrome in our town, man
Because they thought I had it for like the first year and a half of my no kidding
And then they literally told my parents that I beat it dude
And so that was like it was like this kind of thing in our area pretty crazy
and so
To be able to go through that in life
And still have what I have now I get torn I want and my kids we found an amazing
I've been all over the world my kids all over the I mean african safaris really doing fun stuff, huh? Oh, yeah
Bands, I love metallica acdc
Oh, that's I mean
It's like a living dream and so
Watching these other people crash
It was a couple years ago
I went to la to promote something
And we already discussed how I feel about it and I found this little neighborhood place crust street was a i-hop
I don't know in the name of place really cool little hotel
And I went out to eat and it was a little place on up the street. It was almost like
Mexican and pizza
And I was just sitting there and this guy came up to me
one of the people
And I go uh, hey and he goes hey, man
I just want to tell you I
I really respect what you did with your dad and you made this documentary and I just uh,
I just I respect what you do
And all I saw was that that was like grace and healing because
If this person knew how I felt
Years before
About this person and the other person involved
And now here they are coming back. I see where they're going and where my life is and it's
They're hard to get through but you don't know the long term when you stick to your thing
It's you just don't know when you're chasing
It's amazing you need that balance
Um, yeah, yeah, that makes sense 100 percent
It's hard to know like what the moment right now that it is part of a bigger painting, you know
It's so hard to know. It's impossible. And of course the way that we're built now with
Instantaneosity and doing stuff right now and this and that and jack and jill and jack, you know doing whatever you want
You could jerk off out of your pocket, you know
You know what I'm saying? Yes, you could get somebody to bring them out and do where you could you know
You could kill some there's like white websites. You can get people killed. You can do it all in a second. Yes
There's there's so much like I control everything that there's never any like
I'm gonna let the higher powers and the powers that be control things. I'm gonna live in the plan, you know
I'll tell you what and and the more feel the more I've done that in the last
Five ten years where I go, you know what and this is this is where things really shifted for me around 2008 2009
And I started changing my stand-up. I started changing my outlook. I always feared
That people would see me as like, uh, we like all moral and stuff and it's like I feared that
Why don't why did I fear that? What's wrong with being that? Yeah, we're trying to be also. It's a goal
It's a it's just a it's not even a goal. It's just an attempt
Yeah, and it's a it's a it's a way of living. Yeah, what's wrong with just giving goodness, you know, so
The more the minute I tapped into that and the more I said, you know what like now I'm going out and touring
Yes, I want to make money blah blah blah, but the end I get I get so much more out of
I know this sounds corny
touching lives
it is
I've done it a lot and and I the more I go I'm gonna do this
Because I want to you know, it's and I think a lot has to do with my wife my wife
She goes so she's she's found Jesus years ago and that was another whole right
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on here? Yeah, like it was boom. It was a powerful story
but
Just I didn't see it coming
Well, it's also when so when people and that that experience for people is their own experience finding a higher power
Finding a faith that kind of thing it's there
So even if you're like it's such a personal experience that yeah
It's hard to really kind of share with somebody in a lot of ways and for them to kind of um, and you're instantly judged
Oh, yeah. Oh, especially these days, dude. Yeah, you're a freak or you know, you think you're like, all right
She's nothing like that. Yeah, you know, she'll do things like this. She'll go I get on the metallica
I'm on I'm touring with metallica. Yeah for me. That was a legend. Yeah, this is the greatest
This is the greatest this better than he said come. Yeah, I don't want to be in the movies. I'm touring
When my metallica guy you kidding me? Yeah, so
Um, and you guys are out there, right? Who's the other opening man and also there is none. Fuck. I'm the opener
That's crazy
And I had but before you worked in Metallica had you worked with a band and it didn't work because it you know
It never works for anyone
Uh
No
I I did a little something in front of Alice and chainz ones because it made me go up less. They were like come on
Down in a hole, but before we get to that
They were so good. Um, was that perry ferrell? No, who was in that? No, no, no, that's jane's addiction
Yeah, yeah, it is a one-year-old birthday party at perry ferrell's house, dude
A friend of mine leet like they knew the family or whatever so we went over there for his one-year-old party and uh
Me and perry were like and sit in the library just and literally I could not understand one word that he said
He was describing different books to me on this shelf
No idea what was going on. Is that that's uh, jane's addiction to it. It's uh, they came on san it live
And I'll never forget this. I was so hopped up
So they did the first song
And they were they were damaged
damaged
So in between they're like
I'll never forget. I'm hanging out and they go he goes
perry goes, hey, uh, could we do that song over?
And uh, the producer goes it was live
Matter of fact, your second song is cut. They're the first band
I got their second song cut
Cut
They just because they were so ripped
Wait, I had now I have to go look at it. Watch it the first time they were in san it live
It's probably between 95 and 98 and they did this
Look it up son bang bang bang bet and when they were finished
I just remember going I didn't do that again. They went no you're done. You're done for the night. You're out shows over
That was live. Let's do this guy. We'll come on back. We're all right. Let's see what this guy's doing right here
This is jimmy john right here jimmy john was on here. Uh, john loud tout. He's from, uh, illinois
I love how you do this. The guy who started jimmy john's. Um, this is really cool. Wait, what?
This guy started jimmy john's. No, the guy who started jimmy john's was on here. This guy resembles him very much. Oh, okay. Okay. All right
What's up theo the legend jim brewer? What's going on? This is matt in south florida
Jim I've admired you for god knows how long
You have shared so much of your life throughout your career
Especially the stories on the stern show you left no stone unturned in terms of your transparency
But anybody who knows you knows that
You're probably one of the more admirable people in this world. Uh, the care that you gave your father even
When he was going through those difficult times was uh, definitely remarkable to see
What's one piece of advice you would give to somebody who?
um
Does have a special relationship with their father or parent in general and maybe
He fears those later years in life. Um, you know knowing that they want to care for them, but knowing what's coming next
Um, hopefully we can all meet it as gracefully as you did
Um, and obviously, uh, have a special relationship like you did so thanks for listening gang gang bro
Where we where when is this air?
It could probably go to marvel we could do it whenever okay, it doesn't matter so
So I won't say the hotel mat. Okay, so the hotel mat this just happened last night
I cut my I have a cut here and my nail is is slit to here
So I called downstairs
Or do you have a nail clipper and they're like no darling? We ain't got one and Walgreens is closed
Um, let me look far like a scissor and cut. I said, I gotta cut you guys. Oh, darth. Just come down here
Let's take a look. This is the front desk. I was why I love the south. Yeah, so come down there
And she's like you need a pinky condom till tomorrow and you go get you but there was another guy
And I don't know if he was a janitor or whatever because he didn't look like he was checking people. He probably loitering, but yeah
He's always there. He's always there. He's behind the he gets it. He's worked his way behind the front desk person
Oh, whoever that is but a z-roxxer. Yeah, he's already worked his way
The guy in there who just hears the bell. Yeah, right
So he he comes and he goes uh, jim same thing goes man
I love I watch that stuff you do with your dad and goes. I'm going through this right now
Wow, and the best advice I tell people is
The hardest thing we go through in life is watching our parents struggle because they're your rocks
They're your idols. They're your source of of power. They're your
They're invincible
and
His father was only 66 years old, which is still young and he said he got in a terrible accident
smashed his head
It wasn't his fault. He was sitting. He was horseback riding
He was uh in a horseback race now. He he was sitting. I still don't get it. He was in a civil war
We enact a new one
He was part of a vote
Oh, man, I said not that rifle. That's the real one cheddar
Damn, what's wrong with you? Sorry, bill. You're right. He's bleeding bad. He's bleeding bad, uh, he's bleeding bad dad
It's always i'm gonna go out on them and say 80 percent of people in cwrs or father sons, baby
Yeah, you're right. So he goes um
And I still there was part of me want to ask this question because I I still kind of what I heard was his father was sitting down
And someone was undoing the hitch
On the car or the truck and the hitch
Smash his head and I couldn't visualize and I wasn't gonna deal like well, all right
So what happened? He goes he was so he's damaged and he still can't remember. He's he's done. He can't walk like whoa
Your dad's a fried egg
So he goes and and he slowly started I said, you know what the worst part is when you start
Oh, he goes, you know, he's kind of pissing all over and I went
Is he
I go, you know what the toughest thing for me was the dry heaves my father dropped a deuce and I'm like
A huge dry heat my neck wouldn't hurt from
Is it because it's also your father's excrement you think?
I mean hard from
And you know, but what I realized was the minute
They can't drive
I try to explain to this guy went listen the best thing you could do
Taking care of anyone is you have to
remove all
selfishness
This is really getting in my way. I ain't got time for this. I'm really big. This is not a good timing in my life
This is not bubba, but because that's what happens. It's really hard to put that aside
Well, my sister should do it. I'll do it. Maybe we can hire someone to do it
They are they reach a point you got to understand
The last thing you want life is now I can't drive
Now I can't go to the bathroom myself and they don't want to let you know
I mean before this happened you said your father was driving around damn well now he's got a
Can you go get me?
Do you mind just going to get a couple things from the grocery store?
Uh
He's feeling that a depression. He knows he's gonna die
Um, so you got to put you something my father I'll never forget
Uh, I was coming home from I I could my next book is gonna be the top 10 cities and my father crapped himself in public
I love that public
I had great stories, but I found the humor in it. You got to laugh at it
And one of the last ones was he we were uh, just got off the plane
He looked at me. He's like, I gotta go and the mini city go which meant he went
So it was one of the tiny planes to get them off and dry heaving. I get them into uh, the the united
President's club. Right. I said, I got I need I need to get in here, bro. Yeah, I need something. We can't do this
And yeah, this ain't gonna happen. We can't do this in coach. It ain't gonna happen. So we get in there
I'm dry heaving and I had an extra pair of sweatpants. I just remember him looking at me. Duff feed it
He said, you're never gonna bring me around again. Are you?
You we're we're never gonna travel anymore
And I it hit me so hard
I just went
No, we're gonna travel. It's not gonna feed you until we get to where we're going
I can't feed you. I can't have anything in your system. I'm gonna starve you
hard
So the I guess I laugh
Yeah, he he laughed, but he he wasn't a laugh or he'd just go like this. Hmm
Hmm, that was him laughing. Yeah, that was me crushing with my dad. Yeah, but uh
The best thing is put your life into there. You don't know what they're where they're at mentally
So all you gotta do is constantly cheer. I just get my my dad once he couldn't drive gave up a life wouldn't shower
wouldn't wouldn't shave
So I'd have to turn on some Hank Williams and Johnny Cash and I'd make it a whole
I didn't know what a barbershop was so I'd set up like a barbershop and it's bad to him in it
And I'd be sitting driving him nuts busting his balls. Oh, I caught you
Oh my god, dad, this is bad. I I just I just fuck on him like really bad
But we needed that we needed that scrub his ass
Yeah, here. I'm like dad. You think I like scrubbing your ass like ew. You're gonna shit way up in there
We don't be in the shower together. No god. No
Not could I couldn't do that. Now. I've stepped in with them. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about bro team work
I like it
Because when they get older they can't wipe their ass. Oh, yeah, it's hard now
It's exactly so it's sit. I'm at that age too. I'm like, why I gotta wipe my ass again
And I go around back a lot of times. I go. I was you do. Yeah. Wow. I just started doing that. What do you mean?
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Wow, I never went that way in my life. Really? Oh, it's I don't want I'm a no
No, well, you just stop before your nuts. Oh, that's crazy
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You know, my dad was 70 when I was born my dad was really old and he was he was an older man
So just here you talk about stories about your dad. Yeah, he was my dad was born in 1910, right?
What crazy bro crazy my first jokes were all about growing up with like an old dad and like
Oh my god. See I thought mine mine was 23. Yeah
1923
1910
Yeah, it was crazy man, but it's just interesting like
Like um, I think just the things like I would get I felt I feel bad as I got older
I was embarrassed to my dad a lot just like the way his skin would look like just little things like
He'd fall asleep at the game
Like he'd fall asleep
Dude, my dad bought a car for some black guys in our neighborhood
And so he had this car that had these 22s in at this delta cutlass 88 or something
But I had these 22 speakers in the back of it, right? Yeah, so he'd be listening to like Paul Harvey like, you know, like, yeah
Paul Harvey
Good day
Just at the fucking loudest bass you could have just dead asleep in the fucking carpool line, bro
We'd have to walk down to the car to get in and the teacher knew we were so embarrassed, dude
And it was just this fucking
Sometimes we would make him drive and walk down the block and then get in like
I don't know sometimes that's still like this weird shame from like
Like just I just wasn't in a space to be loving. I was just like a
Like a kid, you know, you didn't know I didn't know my dad World War two and all that like I didn't
He would say to me he's like, I'm in a big one. Well eight and nine. Like, well, what does that mean?
Yeah, and even when you learn in school, you know, you don't comprehend and he watched the war things like I'm not
Comprehending what's going on. You have to get older. That's another thing about just like the big picture of life
Like that's one thing I feel bad when people die young because you just don't get to see like how it all kind of
adds up and it all the balance sheet all averages out
Yeah, and sometimes I wonder
At least this is the only way it works in my mind
Where if someone died, I've had people in my life die young
and it's actually
empowered
A certain amount of people
Their their spirit right empower like it happened for me like it really
Empowered me in a lot of ways a dear friend of mine
Um, what happened to him? Who was he? She it was a she and we were we were best friends with Florida
It was before I went full-blown into stand-up and she kept saying you need to stand up and she liked me
But I didn't realize she really liked me and we lived right next to each other
But we it was a I had the I was lost in Florida
I mean I grew up in Long Island and we grew up like brothers and sisters on the same street or whole lives
And and we were brought we were brothers and sisters and
And even when Phil's dad's tape broke out. We were like now we're playing truth or dare
It's like we were and then my parents said we just want to have some Florida
What and then I go down there and people talk different and there's no like what you just stripped me my life
um, so she was kind of a saving grace
she was from Boston and uh
Uh
It was it was it was uh, she was she was
We were we were bickering over something happened. I won't go into details and then uh
long story short
I saw her one night
I asked you I was like god man. I
If there's an opportunity to talk to her I I don't like this feeling I would talk to her and sure enough
I had about two and a half weeks. She was sitting in a breezeway as I pulled in late at night
And went over and like hey, I'm sorry. I you know
I miss you. I love you and we talked for hours and she basically
Told me like it was all her things were closed
And she's like, you know, I couldn't go to prom and now I was on the beach and I met this guy from Boston
I went to school with and he just moved down here and he asked me to prom and oh my god
I was amazing brother and I gave her this kiss and next day she's like tomorrow
I got photography class you want to go and I didn't want to go um, yeah
So I purposely was like a little late. Mm-hmm. So I'm like hey man, and I got home. She died of car crash
but
That
It was weird. It was uh, and that was the beginning of
When I went to the funeral. It was very you know, she was she was a senior in school. Were you a senior of 19? 19
and so she
I remember being the funeral and going wow. This is this is
This is not the way this is weird. So I went outside with a couple friends. Oh, this is not what she would want right now
She wants me to come she went above and I started
I started making everyone laugh and started imitating what you'd be saying to us right now
And what we would be doing and everyone started laughing and then I stopped one. Oh, this is not cool
because now everyone's coming outside and
This isn't cool. This ain't cool and they went. No, no, no. Stop keep going and then
It was weird
Uh
That's powerful
Because somebody's gone and you're there's this there's this power of like of being like a valve release in a weird way
It was and then I stopped at her grave before and I would talk to all the time
I'd have I don't even smoke but she'd smoke and I'd have a cigarette just started. I went to her grave for he left
I'm like, hey man
I didn't realize how much you look because her mom gave me these poems. She wrote about me. I was like, oh
Wow
one of them was like
Uh, uh, if I can't have him I'd rather just not be here and I can love him from a deeper place when oh
Wow
So I went to I went to the grave and I went
Hey, hey kirsten. I just want to kristin. I want to tell you
Look out for me. Do you best? I'm not sure. I'll ever meet anyone that loved me the way you loved me
and
I know I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna be a star
I pray to god I meet a girl before that because I want her to fall in love with me and not the star
I go, I I know you're gonna be looking after me and blah blah blah and it was also weird stuff at at her, uh
The day of the funeral we went back to the house everyone's crying and stuff and I went outside
And I was like, I can't believe I I I hope you're okay. And I looked up there. It was this
It was clear as day. It was a freaking
rainbow in a circle
Directly above her house
So I went in I'm like you guys gotta look at we all look it was
It was just wacky moment now, of course other people like well. Yeah, because on those particular days, right?
There's particles and that's why in the science set like I'm already don't kill my moment. Yeah
For you, it's that for me. It's something else. Yeah for me. It's a little bit of magic
It's a fucking loose care bear out there
I don't know. I don't know. It's for me. It's something else, bro. Take it easy. Yeah, uh, I'm not shoving on you
I'm just turning how I felt like giving you a book and going
Don't kill my magic right a lot of you want to kill your fucking magic
I want to get magic because they got none
They got none
Bro, I'll tell you what it was so scary when young people died, man
Well, I forgot where we're going with this. No going. I interrupted you. No. No. No. What the hell was I even talking about?
Why was I saying this? I don't know, bro. You were talking about
Well, is she your first kiss you think that girl? No, I didn't kiss her. You didn't never kissed. Wow. Just friends, huh?
That's beautiful. We were deep friends and oh
Powerful on the other side. I don't know where I was going, but I'll tell you it's perception. You know when my dad died. That was the toughest
loss for me
And after he died
Damn, I'm sitting. This is crazy
This is and these are stories like I was afraid to tell when I was like, you know, it happened. What am I?
I'm in my living room
When you you know, there's cries when you're like
Your mouth is open. Yeah
It's almost like primordial. Yeah, it's I call it the primal cry. So
and um
I'm you know, I pray I like die, you know, what what happens. I don't know what happens
You know, my wife thinks you'll see Jesus or what? I don't know
Who the hell knows?
So I'm just asking like do you feel it like is it an energy? Do we become a?
A plan like what what or just is it nothing this and we in space or we have thought like what happens?
Yeah, and I'm going. I wish I could just
Feel his energy to us on my kids lives. Hope they die from lying. I start here
And it's non-stop and I look in the and it's this freaking bird
flying into the windows
He's like this he's big
And I'm looking at him and he looked like your dad
He looked like that, but I sit there at the end. I'm going
Dad
This is like what's going to do. So I talk myself out of it. This is too weird. This is crazy
Every time I walk away thing we do it again
This this bird
for year and a half
Every day would start in the room where my dad died, right?
And then he'd go around the house and go to that same window every day. It was a cardinal
Now people now people like, you know cardinal is an angel and uh
First migration pattern they do yeah, and but then you got my father-in-law. He's like jesus christ
It's a male bird. He sees his reflection. He's trying to kill it. It's not your father. You die
We go in the grave. It's over
I'm like, ah, don't kill it man. Don't kill it. So now this thing becomes a joke
It really becomes a joke because um, you know the kids would start talking to grandpa grandpa's here
It's weekend. You can't be knocking on the windows six thirty in the morning. I want to sleep on the weekend not cool
And then this is but this is the weird part. This is weird
This thing lasted it showed up in october
made a whole year through october
All the way the following march it's still going my wife and I and the kids we go to turks and cacos
And then we go there for vacation. We're sitting and I'm a little bit of money
I uh, nah, I'm gonna lie. I've done it right. Yeah, I've done it right. Um
I've done it right. So
All my money is
Is it's not in my bank. It's in my kids heads right from private schools and it's in africa and australia
And beli it's all over the place. Yeah, it's underwater scuba diving
Whale sharks
It's everywhere
They're like that. We're broken. You show them a picture of them. I'll fucking kill them in jarrow base camp. Here's another hundred k
That that zebra was worth every hundred k cost
So
So, yeah that d minus my kid gets in private school. That's my house on the beach right there. Bang
Um
So with the witches why jim bru is on the comedy club door
I wasn't thinking long term
No salary for a year
How much money we got left? Oh my god start parking comedy clubs. Are you sure? Yes. Yeah, how much for a show?
$2
Fuckin schneider just did 14 shows here last week. I saw that's crazy. I saw saloon fishing. I want to talk about schneider
Terce K goes primal cry
Bro, I on my kids lives. This is weird
I I go, you know what and I'm not I talked just like that. I went, you know what?
I've been holding on to you too long
This is this is wrong for me to hold on to you. This is what I'm letting you go
I'm so sorry that I've been crying like this. I'm so sorry. I'm only sad when I think of you
From now on I'm just gonna laugh my ass off. I'm gonna think of you because he was funny. My dad was dark
Funny and sexually everything was a sex joke. Yeah, everything. Oh, yeah non-stop
You know, we'd my mom would try to go to uh, if we go to a wedding
Which he hated. Yeah hated church
So the mid the priest was like, oh my god, you know with no pants on
Jim for Christ's sake
Oh, if I was stupid hat man, he's the fucker. He just wants your money this ass. Oh
He was he just wants some money and some kid titty, you know
Throwing him out of the box. I would bring my snl and he you went to my embarrassment. You went to my barrison
I'm surprised paul abdule hasn't come out of the woodwork and try to sue me because of my dad's actions
I will never forget
Never forget my dad once he got comes up paul abdule sitting on his lap
And he turns around and he's gone. He's looking at me. He's like, can you handle this? Yeah
She's like, I love him because you want to play puppy to my dad. No
No
Not the puppy and what is it? And she's like, what's the puppy? I'm like, no, no, no, please not cool
You gotta remember he's 80 something years old. She's like, no, I want to hear it
He goes, that's when I sniff your ass and you just growl
Oh
She laughed her
So just to let you know, yeah, he was a wild guy. He's waves in the jungle for three years killing him big deal
Yeah, I'd smell anybody's ass if i'm in a jungle for fucking three years, dude
My car breaks down for an hour. I'll fucking smell somebody's ass
That's old school. I said I have cocaine to do that
But the military I think was cocaine is into a lot of people's systems. It was just this
You know when they went through some real wars, it just made whatever like let's just do whatever, you know
You know, my dad would always say world war two. I said, what was because he would not talk about whatsoever
And whenever I really pried him, he got a tank eye for the hillbillies
Like why because they knew how to make alcohol or anything
Anything they make alcohol or anything. I give them a foot and they know how to make alcohol
Yeah, really and you just don't even think about things like that
Like someone one of these rednecks knows how to make booze. Yeah. Hey get me four leaves and a coconut
We're gonna be hammered on thursday. We're gonna get through this
um
So I let him go
All right
And so you really had almost like a
Like i'm letting his spirit. I'm letting you go. My spirit got held on too too long. Yeah, okay
And so now i'm testing myself
I'm looking at old people because if I saw someone in a wheelchair
I'd start sobbing. Yeah, if I saw if I saw old people
So now I'm purposely looking for old people and I'm okay now. I'm starting to to laugh
And it's it's working. So we go home
And we're unpacking the car
And my father swear to god, dude, I'm I I have nothing to sell here. I'm just telling you what happened
We go in the house
and my father-in-law
goes
Hey, uh, you know, the kitty litter's done for the cats. He goes but that the bird's gone
Everyone knew the bird the bird's gone
Guimy's gone
I don't know the middle week. He's just stopped coming around
and I
I
Sat down like this and I started laughing
He goes what's so fine went you don't understand
I let my dad go you don't think that's weird
That this bird every day
He showed up when I asked and he goes oh for Christ's sake get my grades
Jesus Christ Jimmy
What the hell is wrong with you? You let my daughter's getting into you stop with that shit
No god, no G. We just die and a bird comes and go ahead and then I do it your father
But that's the power of
It's it's perception. It's uh, right?
It's not to be debated. That's my
That's what I think a lot of people start losing
They're like, oh, it's supposed to be to you and even my wife will go. Well, it's not. Hey, don't don't
I don't care what it says here. I mean I care and all that but I'm just telling you what I did and this happened
That's my own thought my own
feeling
Yeah, the magic sometimes it's it's easy for people to kill the magic man
It's easy for all the the words and the literature and all the extra information
I got a story for is we talking this guy? Um, what am I too long man?
Am I boy? No, you're good, man
I'll tell you a story Jim song down in orange county and they used to have a church there and they ended up
Stealing a lot of people's money and whatever but before that yeah, but before that
No, it's crazy
Dude, I knew in the fucking when the guy came out in like six robes on a fucking like golden thing
And bro, I remember I went to their church service once they had real
camels
real
You know, they had real like illegal
Aliens they had real slaves at the manger like this. I'm like, this is a lot
You know what I'm saying like they had to we're gonna crush it this christmas eve
hard
And we're gonna charge admission
Oh, they did and we're gonna ump it up. Do you know how hard it was to get these camels?
Dude, one of the camels defecated on the steps bro and people had to go up and down at the whole night to get on the stage
So anyway, they busted this church, but one night one day i'm over there
I swear to god. I'm trying to be quiet because christel cathedra. Bring it up. Will you well?
This is why i'm shone shone's on this fire. The reason why i'm laughing is my wife goes to church. Uh-huh
They did the same day three years ago a big camel and this church is small
It's not a big church bad idea and this thing dropped a deuce right under a camel
It's sheep. Yeah, you can't camel a small church. Here's christel cathedra right here and this is in uh
Uh, orange california and the the walls would open. That's big. Oh, this thing was huge. And so yeah, so in the back there
That's all glass and then on the right if you know go back to that picture if you don't mind shone
Nope right there if we zoom in on that or get her bigger
Yeah, so on the right there where it's kind of open that's actually the wall opens up
And uh, wow, yeah, the walls open like that. It's just the way it's built. I mean, it was a nice
All for the name of homeless people. That's the man right there robert. Oh, yeah, he's famous bobby schuller. Yeah
And his daughter I think might have been a lesbian but beautiful brun really talented. I thought but um
Anyway, so i'm sitting there. There's this lady sitting next to me
The the doors open up a butterfly comes in right comes in
Lands on this woman's cheek. She's probably about 85 maybe lands on her cheek thick makeup, right can't move
You know, and i'm sitting right next to her. I've already been kind of just chatting with her. You know, it's church
You know, it's really right. You should yeah, you say hey, especially we see an older person, you know, fantastic
Yeah, oh, you look great. Yeah. Oh, you're only 85. You know, you look you look 79. You look 78
So pleased I met you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, soft hands
Oh, you seem like you're gonna die soon things like that, you know, there's things that go through your head
You got a good three months. Yeah, it's gonna be a good three. Yeah, you're gonna do fine
She goes I said, oh ma'am. I said there's a
A butterfly on your cheek, you know, and she goes, oh, that's my son. He died in a car accident
Six years ago
Today and every year today he comes and visits me at church
And I was like it blew my mind bro. I'm not even I gotta go look through my phone
I took pictures me sitting there like this like
And I would just it blew my mind like she was not concerned and it stayed there the whole service and then jet it out
You know, and I don't think that that's like Elon Musk, you know doing early trial shit
I believe that that's something like I do too
It's just a piece of energy that was just wanted to spend time with her. Listen. There there is energy
I think about this sometimes like
Me if we have a chemistry and we're talking there's an energy there. Yeah, there's an energy. Yeah, where's the energy come from?
Does it come from somewhere higher? Is it do we create it?
No one knows science can't create all that stuff. You know, here's a here's a um
I remember you talking about seeing the long term something that just taught me the long term. I have a um
You know, my mom's side of the family
It's four different men and we don't know who the one my one sister's dad ever was and she dated her
She dated met a lot of men. Yeah, she started my parents are different my dad zero
I mean he would tell me he's like wow
We used to have a lot of turtle soup and possum pie and I thought he was kidding
And then I realized he wasn't yeah, wow when I see all the brewers together like remember Paul would make you
Go along the tracks gym and if you didn't come with the right amount of buckets now
He's five granted and he just whoop your ass. We felt so bad. You didn't get bread that night real rural
Why come on that didn't real now she meet now he he ends up with my mom who grew up in Greenwich village
Oh fancy big fancy, but then her world came crashing down. She lost her dad
She lost her husband while she had a kid and today and a mom kicked her out. She must have so she'd spiraled out of control
abusive horrible relationships like my my step
my step family side
Horrifying just
Horrifying where I came along like I my life kicks ass. Yeah
Yeah, um, and so
It did it freaking kid. I didn't know any of that. We were blue collar, but we still it was just amazing
So
Damn, where's that going with this man? See what happens when you started?
It's okay. Well, I started talking about that lady landed the butterfly landed on the lady's cheek at the thing
Yeah, and then you oh, oh, I know I was gonna say so the long term we were talking about before
Because you don't know the long plans or the grace in life. This is another crazy story. Let's do it. So my nephew
When nephew had a tough run. Mm-hmm the black a mixed or what was he?
Uh, no dad dad left. He was a heroin addict
um
And my sister my sister got rest her soul. She died
Uh 59 couple same year my dad died
um, but she was great soul, but
But never got over the trauma. So she was your father of just her life of her life
Of what her dad did to her. So this is she was on the freight train, you know
Whatever she wants you just trying to kill the pain
Oh
But her kids
Her one son I went he's gonna either be dead
Or he's gonna be in prison and she'd always say like jimbo. He looks up to you like a but I was I was 10 years old in him
I'm like, I can't and and when I went after my dream. We were living in Florida
I was petrified to leave him
Because your nephew. Yeah, because I knew
I was 22 he was 12 and what's his name Ronnie or something
Steve oh Steve oh, yeah good and I went
He's you saw it coming cops started coming
Uh, you know, it's well, uh, he's broken some places spray painted up. Listen to nely anger
Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah, I feel you bro. Yeah, the pants are down. He's he's going there. He's going there. Sure enough
um
Off to the off to the off to camp. Yeah
The bad camp the saint the saint local. Yeah state. Oh, wow
So he'd write me while I was on snl
And I was shocked he was still alive
And I'd send him loose stuff a whole bubba bubba bubba
I
Time for him to get out now. I'm in in new jersey
He's got a beautiful home my wife's pregnant two kids and we start going he's he can't go back home
He's gonna he's gonna go right back in he's gonna get worse at home. He can't go back to his environment
So he's got to come here. He's got to come his own chance. Let's do it
So we bring him here and you want to talk about a movie? Yeah
So he comes I'll never forget the first thing he does or he gets I sent a car to pick him up
Oh
I said a car to pick up the car because he gets out of the car. He's got wife beater
He's six for four. I saw him as a little pudgy teenager
Wow
And he's inked on one side of his body gets out of the car
And he squats
He's like, what's up, uncle jim and he lights a cigarette and he's squatting on the curb like this
And my wife and I looked at it. It's like, uh, maybe this is a bad decision
So long story short
It becomes the greatest story
Of our lives it it was a lot of
A lot of trial and error a lot of problems a lot of time, but we we realized
We had a lot of work to do with him
Was it hard to love him? Was it hard to love him through all the mistakes and stuff? No for us?
It was easy because all I did was I kept reminding like listen to me
You don't understand nobody went like I had such backlash you can't do this you have kids
And and rightfully so
I didn't tell anyone in the neighborhood. I just told my family and they were full blown
You can't do this. Yeah, not now
I said, you don't understand. He's gonna be dead. They're like, you know what? It's not your problem
Yeah, you got everything going for you. That's mom's problem. Yeah
And my wife and I were like
So we had him there
And the thing that broke him was so I'd say like listen, you don't understand
All I get out of this is that you become a good person and you're able to do your own thing
I go if if once I'm gone
You're screwed
You need to learn just just basic life
And that was through some things he was going through still hanging out with a yo-yo and he started he got pulled over
He was like, oh, they caught me like oh my god
Of course they caught you because your hat's backwards
Getting high through an area that nobody under a million dollars lives
And the cops got nothing to do like look at this son of a bitch with 10 in windows
You don't live here dude. You want to step out of the car?
That happened to me when I first moved there. It happens to everybody of course
so
That's normal. The kids broke them
I'll never forget. Oh, that's cute. There's like a movie man, and I always said I write it
But I'm like I write that would be a good movie. It would be he's sitting at the kitchen table and you gotta see him
He's red neg his health
funny
funny
Funny now we'll only vacation when uncle steve-o and his wife and children now
We don't want to make sure whatever we love he we love they were so much love
He's sitting there one day this big tough and he starts crying at the kitchen table
Oh, what's what's amazing? I never had this. I had why this what omelets?
He never had omelet
Let me tell you something. I'm just joking. No, no, no, but the fact you say that he after three weeks
Like I want to make you a meal
Square to god. He made a prison meal. He said I need he said they need cheese cheese dip cheese nips
Yeah, yeah cheese nips the square cheese. Yeah, he needed them. Yeah, he needs cheese doodles
Noodles and he would explain he's like this was like it would take months to get these products
There's a wedding cake. This was huge in nebana dentury, and it was we three bites one
But just you know we're looking show like let him live this this is this is a big
It's like the cat bringing a dead animal. This is for you. Oh, thank you
I love how you just spread the guts out
That was very kind to you meow to you too
Love you too. Thank you. So he
And and and he goes just this and he's he started crying and then the oldest daughter was five at the time
And she she's like we love you won't go stay in there kids melted him
So life goes on. He becomes an amazing human being
Gets married meets an amazing woman
Have a child life is great
Suburbs blah blah blah now recently
Uh his father died and whenever something goes on his wife's like
You gotta come he's going through something you gotta talk to him because I was the closest thing
I I see him as like a brother. He sees me differently. That's 10 years. Oh, whatever
So I go over the house his father died now
He didn't he didn't have a relationship with his father his father tried to come back, but he was too Jesus
He didn't want to hang out have coffee. It was like you got to find Jesus. He was like stop doing that to me
Just if you want to be dad be dad don't I don't want stop putting this in my fit
He was showing me the cars like lose card doesn't ask about my daughter
Doesn't best my life. It's just you find Jesus like dude
Dude, I can't I can't and he and he kept getting hurt going back and blah blah
So he had bad feelings because it ended. He didn't have closure as father died
During COVID. He had hepatitis C
So i'm going over there dude
I pull over and I go we
What do you want me to say to him?
I gotta I gotta say something because this kid's gonna be in turmoil. You're just asking god
Yeah, I said I said, what do you want me to say to him? Dude? It went boom. I went holy crap
I have relationship where I laugh. I go
Pro
You are
Dude, I think if I'm god, I would talk to you a pretty good bit. I think I'm like man. That's a cool. Holy crap
I didn't see that so I go in there and I go listen
I know how you feel and we did small talking. I know how you feel about your dad. All right
We don't know. Let me split. Let me back up and tell you a quick story
So I tell him the story. I'm about to tell you I go years ago when I was a little boy
I was about 10 years old dad brought me go see
Mom and dad we go see Johnny Cash get to see him a couple times
We go to Ohio
To visit this couple and
There's this guy I met and
He said can I hang out with him for the day? I want to teach him how to how to
How to fish and blah blah blah and shoot a gun and my parents were cool. I never shot a gun
I was scared of death. I think I killed a bird. He set up a can
Shot a bird and this is a stranger man. You didn't know what we're gonna get to that. Okay, and so
He then took me fishing. We were driving. I'll never forget. He's playing the stones. He looks at me
And he goes you like this. I went. Yeah, who is this? It's satisfaction
It's the stones. Yeah, I well. I don't know. He's like you don't know the story couldn't
Comprehend I didn't know the rolling stone that happened me at 19. I didn't know him
Wow
But it's my kids my kids don't know good fellas like
So long story short we come home
The day before we go and like can I show can I show jimbo this album?
And he he goes it's a comedy album stand-up comedians guy named steve martin and he he shows me the album
and steve martin let's get small
And he's got a fake, you know the fake nose and glasses and a balloon wrapped around his head
So I'm instantly attracted because I'm in 10th grade this doofy
He puts it on and I was blown out of my mind
That a guy could could just he's telling jokes
And he made a record and he's in front of people. I never saw this before I saw her lauren hardy and I saw laughing
I saw these tv shows, but I never saw this this I saw her like people doing characters
And I'm listening I was blown at him and I listened to it non-stop
I still know the album from beginning to end steve martin. Let's get small. I'm a rambling man
Rambler rambling man. I do the whole album changed my life and made me go into
Comedy and go dip more into it and richard pyre and then don rickles and george carlin and boom. I was off to the races
I go in that
Led to the life that I've that led me to my journey right right. Yeah, so the journey there was a little seed led me to
Having a house and taking you in having the opportunity to take you in
I never saw that guy much after that
I go but how great now look at where your life is at because I was able to give that to you
Your daughter and your wife. I go that guy was your father
I go so before you go. I hate him the rest of life
We don't know what the plan was
If he didn't do that for me
And I hated him for leaving my sister
But look at where we're at now. Wow, but that's
You have to be able to see that so that was your sister's father
That was my sister's husband. Oh, this was stevo's father. Wow
So if he if that guy didn't give you that album, then maybe you don't end up on the track. You're on absolutely not
Man, that's powerful man. I wonder that's a heroin addict
That's what he was the dad was a heroin. Hey, let's use a heroin addict. He's a drug act
He might have had some mob ties because my sister loved talking about that. Well, it's funny. It's interesting about laughter, man
It's like
Sometimes somebody even if they can't maybe make you laugh themselves or whatever
They want to just share something with you that maybe that makes them feel good, you know
It happened to me with jerry clower a man my best friend his dad
This is in mississippi. They lived and
And he said to me one day he said man, you have to listen to this and he put it on in the car
And it was this guy jerry clower from yazoo city, mississippi
And he's uh, he was a famous comedian for a long time
Yeah, and he ended up doing being a preacher at the end of his life and then he passed away, but
He told these stories and I just said never
You know, he said he always said he didn't do jokes
He said, uh, it's stories made funny or I tell stories funny. That's what he said. I tell stories funny
But man, he was
But if ever since he's dad gave me that I would have never yeah, right
Nothing ever my mind that was the game changer and and it didn't even change my life then
I mean it helped then me get into comedy
But I didn't come back to jerry clower till about maybe four years ago
And that even changed my comedy perception and career
The way I perform and the way that I want to reach people and
Yeah, man, it's wild, right? It's a wild ride. It's interesting how one little thing can
Yeah
It's about how do you yeah, what where do those seeds?
How do you find that seed?
A lot of times somebody needs to show it to you by hand to whatever it is like
Advertisements help and the computer helps and that sort of thing
But if you can lead somebody like you take somebody to a hockey game, then you were like holy shit
Now I love hockey, you know, that's what happened to me somebody has to take you something
Yes, you almost need a
Sherpa you need that you need that little that little push whatever and I would see that be on the road
And and I remember the first time going the road was a little spooky little exciting
But I was young and I remember just little moments where you think it's something or you might
And I just remember, you know
My first road gig was Cincinnati, Ohio and who'd you open for do you remember?
Or was this when you were headlining? No, I was the opener. It was Ray Combs club in Cincinnati and
All I remember is I was so excited because the headliner just won
Star search. Yes. Wow the hundred thousand dollar. He wanted oh my god was his name
That was the show though. Wasn't it at a certain point?
Uh
It was but yeah, I don't even know why I brought him up
I'll tell you this story. So the so I met you once before and this was in
So I was on a show called road rules, right? It was like a reality television show
Do you remember a show like I kind of remember that people playing games and stuff and they used to have a show called real worlds and
It was MTV. It was MTV. Yeah, so this is road rules. This is 19. This is
2002
Wow, so this is in my half baked touring
Bus full blown
Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know hard core fat. I was fat. I don't I you know what I actually now that you say it you had a
Perfect look of a stoner like you really had a perfect stoner look. Oh, but here's what happened. So I'm waiting outside. I'm in Florida
I'm waiting outside for my girlfriend
She's coming. She's flying in to visit me, right?
We have a couple day break and we're in Fort Lauderdale and they put us up at a decent hotel and we're excited and I'm
I'm 22 or something on him. I'm on him gonna be on him. I'm doing fine. You know, I'm excited. I'm also a weirdo
But I'm cool. I'm waiting outside for my girlfriend and you come walking up, right? It's night
It's midnight. She got in on the last flight on Southwest
And where is this? This is in Fort Lauderdale, but where?
At a hotel. Okay, I'll I remember okay, and it had one of those elevators inside where there was like you could see you
Could see out of the elevator when you're going up. So you can see the lobby and stuff, you know, okay?
Really cool. All right, so you come walking up and I'm like, holy shit. You're Jim Brewer and you're like, yeah, man
And uh, I was he's like, what's going on? I was like, oh nothing. I'm here. I'm working on this MTV show
It's called road rules. You're like, oh, I know that show. It's like you're like, what are you guys doing?
Just running around hitting elephants in the nuts, right?
That's what you said
Which was so crazy. That is something I used to say all the time. I don't know why yes
Well, here's the crazy part then in sandals you proceeded to act out hitting
Yes, you would jump up and act like you were hitting elephant in the nuts
dude it
It fucking for me and nobody else was around so there was nobody that could believe this and you didn't have camera phones
And so I'm like, I'm waiting for my girlfriend. You like you want to come upstairs and smoke man
And I was like, holy shit, dude. I just kind of invited to go smoking
But if she if she would have got there our relationship was it if I was high
It would have been a mess. Oh that I think I remember because I remember acting out
The whole doing elephant noise, bro. You did it like six or seven times. It was just the first time it was good
Oh, yes, and try to reach and hit it. Yeah, and in sandals. It was just like
Bro, and it was so crazy to me. This is before I was a comedian or even got into comedy
And that's why I love once I was out of it. I love I did that was the me. I loved everyone
I was surprised. I felt suppressed of those years
Of just not trusting anyone everyone was out to get you in a bad everyone was talking behind your back
Everyone's trying to get your fire. I was
It was it was it was the worst. Would you feel like you're a trusting person?
Me? Yeah, very probably too much right without that. I trust everyone
Right out of the bat right right out of the gate because there's no reason not to
um
But I I literally go off the energy and I really look into the eyes
And if I feel you're just slightly off like no, I know
When they right just not today. Yeah, not today, bro. Dude. I trust you. What how long I've been on here?
I don't know maybe two hours and I went D. I went I went far. Yeah, I was up to here
And wow I'm going here, huh? This is heavy
We're hitting elephant nuts. Yeah
So crazy, man
It just that was such a moment and it's so funny. I didn't know
Like I didn't know that, you know, we'd be sitting here now. But yeah, that was such a like it was just so crazy. You were so
Funny, man. I wasn't it's such a fun thing being funny when you were young
Were you funny when you were young? Were you funny in high school with your buddies and stuff?
I was dude, that was the fun to me. There's no other like
You can do specials and like do theaters and do like
But man being funny with your fucking buddies in a group when nobody will ever be able to replicate the moment
And you're just like sewing this fucking tapestry that's just retarded
You don't even know you have needles in your hands and you're just oh god. I love that greatest
High and gift of life. Yeah, and I
High school was the best and we had so in our high school
We had the first black kid that ever wanted to be white right wiggas
They never used in turn wiggas, but they'd never seen it before in our area, right?
They'd never so they thought he was mentally handicapped right this kid brian st. Pierre
So they put him in the learning disabled classes, right?
And he just had him like a starter jacket and was like a larry johnson fan, right?
Like he just listened to like, you know bell bivdeville. He was just the first white kid that wanted to be black
They just never seen he was a rapper port. I remember that we had one that was doing break dancing
Everybody had one right and they didn't know but in our town. That was a learning disability, I guess
My time too. So they put him in the they put him in the learning disabled classes
You had kids in wheelchairs kids with Down syndrome kids with you know, like, you know kids that hate
He's doing this. Come on guys. You understand?
He's doing that
Bro, so we had like but I remember just I remember being in middle school and it was so much fun
Bro, junior high and shit those those times
They I think they prep you for the rest of your life to laugh that hard
To the camaraderie. Yes the lifting each other up no matter how bad it got
We'd break one another. Oh breaking each other to the point where you let your guard down. I still live for that. I
Live to hang out
Uh closed doors. Yeah laugh our ass and we go as far and wide as we want as funny as we want
As dark as we want. There's just no judging
There's nothing better than full-blown trust
Trust in those moments. Yeah. Ah
Did you uh, who made you laugh? Who's one of these really gotten you over the years? It really makes you laugh
Comedian. Yeah her has in the day. We talked about Rob Schneider a little bit
Oh, yeah, that's so talented and going in he told his mother just passed away and he was going in all these stories about her life
But then while he's telling him he starts
Acting out some of the characters and it wasn't like a bit. He was doing he was just talking
Yeah, he's talking. Oh man. Some of it was so good. He you know, it's really weird
I
I was on a radio. I do radio years ago
And I always Rob was always one of my favorites
and um
He came on the radio and I
He didn't want to be there. I was in a bad mood. Yeah
And happens it was a long time ago and
So I always thought from that moment like oh man, you don't like me. Yeah
Yeah, you don't like me
And so there's still times when I feel like going because I love I follow him. Yeah, I like what he says
Yeah, me too. I like I like what he puts out there. Yeah, and there's so many times where I feel like going
Hey, man, I don't love you this way
I don't think you're cool. I mean, I don't know if you don't like me. I don't know why you don't like me
Do you think that we take things I take things if somebody doesn't give me a certain vibe
I it then lands on me that they don't like me. Me too. I take it very first. Yeah. Why do you think that is because you know
You know, you know what that they don't you mean? Yeah, or they just it's it's uh, but they don't it's they're not thinking of it that far
We're yeah, you're right. You're right. Maybe it's just like you're below them like I took it as it was so long ago
This is right. I'm just saying I guess generally like when I notice that a lot for myself
If something happens even in a moment, it might mean nothing to them
Yeah, this thing with Rob with me had to be 14 15 years ago
Yeah, and he's probably seven years probably do morning radio and doesn't want to do it. He was now
Yeah, and it's Susan over and like is this his 40th
Freaking interview you had him doing non-stop. He's done. He's done. He's tired of saying the same thing
And uh, it was we take things personally though. That's what's interesting
I was like, oh man, I don't need to hit it all. I had this whole plan like we're gonna be hanging out
We're gonna be hanging out. We're gonna be in a hot air balloon. We're gonna have you ever been to Africa?
Yeah, do you ever go to safari? It's pretty cool
Yeah, I'm we're gonna go to the one of this massage part was one of the real good ones
Yeah, these ones where they blow dart you in the neck right when you go in
It's nothing better. Yeah, you wake up in fucking tight. Hey, you try to fight passing out. You know it's coming
You see the other guys come like, no
No
He makes he merely makes me laugh spade makes me laugh mcdonald makes me laugh. I know everybody you nor makes me laugh
Dude, he does hold on. I'll tell you a thing about norm
So he did this thing one time
He gets off to go from one room into another room, right? He stops at the doorway and he's like
What what is what what is this? What is like a
What is this? He's like banging on the door like just the doorway. He's like what is like a portal to like another
What is this and he's asked he's literally asking the people in the room, right? What is what what do you call this thing?
It's like a like a portal to what it was. How did you just go through? Where am I?
And he was just talking about a doorway, but it was so he makes anything funny. Yeah, I remember what it was me him
he came to
it was I think he was
doing a show with spade and urvine
and uh, I went to go watch
And he came at it. We went in the we went like by the dumpster afterwards
and it was me him
I wonder we were talking about outside. Yeah, the little outside area where you park. Yes. Yeah, and
I don't know if it was
There was one other person there. I remember was there
So they say he's a bro. Are you making stone?
I went not man. I stopped he goes what?
Jesus christ
Fucking guy from head big can't fucking stop getting high
Fuck you don't know. He was so angry
I didn't want to get high. He was so pissed. He was genuinely pissed. The fuck is that? Who the fuck ain't brewing in fucking high?
Jesus Christ the fuck is wrong. Are you joining me again? Jesus Christ, bro. What the fuck?
He was so he had judged me now and no
No, I just I stopped for a while man. That's all. I smoked it all. That's why I did everything. I smoked as much as I could.
I beat the shit out of marijuana
Car, I think you won one hitters. I was crushing it
I'm I'm meeting I'm meeting bond years before talking about punching elephants in the nuts been there done that I did it. Yeah
dude, he uh
One time I had to open up for him in this is at a casino. We're doing like a casino gig
in
Shawnee, Oklahoma
And Cherokee Creek casino, I think and it could have I don't know this cool lady that I think maybe try to make love to somebody
But she also helped us get the gig and um
Norm was fucked up. I think that when he went on he went on after me like I don't think he I don't think for the first seven minutes
I don't even think he said anything right, but the crazy part was the next day
We were at there was like a we had to play cards to the next day. You like be there for the weekend, you know
so we go to the card tables and
No, I was like man a lot of
A lot of good pussy in here
And and I don't know him really well. So I'm thinking I'm looking around this room, bro
There is zero attractive women, right? There's zero attractive men. Okay, so it's not even if you wanted some ass pussy
There's nothing. Yeah, it's a casino and it's a it's a gambling game. It's poker. Yeah five card poker, you know, so
And I'm just thinking well, I guess I just agree with him
You know, he's getting older and you know, maybe he has a different perception of what's attractive. I'm like, yeah, man
They're sure as he goes. Fuck no, there isn't like he played me, you know, like
He's like this is the ugliest batch of people I've ever seen
I was just talking about him the other night now. I was there
For one of the greatest norm moments in comedy history. I think he was kicked. He was kicked out of Nebraska
That sounds realistic. Um
And I you maybe look it up later versus norm mcdonald was kicked out of the state by the governor
and he went on he went on
Letterman to talk about it
Uh, and I want to say it was like
1996 because I just finished my first year at snl was 95. So it was the summer of 96
And I remember going on tour
There you go. You saw it go down. Yeah kicked out of Iowa. That's me talking about it. Okay
Uh, but anyway, should we look on a video where she was? No, no, don't look at that
I want to see the rear there has to be a headline how norm mcdonald got kicked out of Iowa. Yes. Okay, because that there you go
Okay, all right, so
Many were disgusted. Some were delighted
So he's supposed now you got to stand something. Okay
He is the first time me touring with a star
Okay, we go to the airport and people are like, oh my god, you're norm mcdonald like wow
This is everywhere we went. Oh my god, you're norm mcdonald. We show up at the university. He's like, yeah
I gotta go golfing with the fucking governor
They made me a fucking golf
Fucking governor. Yeah, what did that game where you?
Right, so I like he's he's with a governor. This is huge. Who gets to say that?
So I'm I'm it's me Darryl Hammond and him and you wait you wait all both you guys went
We're all we're on the gig. Okay. Okay, we're going out. He's telling us. I am and yes, and so uh, we get to the gig
And is is packed
And they go now listen there's kids here
And there's students and alum and the dean and all these people here. So that's the worst
And I get clean. I get it. No worries. I go. We're we're in sunny. I guess that's why we got you guys because you're used to live tv
But so Darryl goes up first does his 20 minutes does impressions
Does his comedy?
Hilarious. Mm-hmm
I go up
Do my 20 feel great crush it norm goes up. I'm not even exaggerating the first thing he says he goes out and goes
Ah
Look, I'm preparing. I like this is gonna launch my clue. Are you kidding me? This is gonna huge
I'm gonna be all he goes. Ah the fucking
Where the fuck are we?
First person even curse, right? I went. Oh, should he curse he goes
So if you're gay
Would you rather be the ass guy or the dick guy?
Hey
This really starts off with
so
I go I go Darryl. You gotta go see this and he's going and he won't stop
He's like because if you're depressed in the bag, he's gonna be the ass guy
People are grabbing their kids
Riding up the aisle there. I mean, I never saw a place clear out look like a fire alarm was going off
But the college students were staying and they were howling with laughter and he
One thing and then in the middle after about 15 minutes goes Jesus Christ. What do you mean?
Fucking airplane jokes
He went fucking 7-eleven jokes and Jesus Christ. Fuck out of here
So the next day in the paper
USA today or the cassette to like norm mcdonald's out. Wow governor wants him out of the state
Throw it get out of my state
But to witness that
was I
I have so many norm moments in my life. My first press conference with norm was
They prepped us until like, you know, yeah, there's you gotta speak and there's some it's live
BBC and he's a bigger star than you so you have to sit there and kind of pay you have to be
It was him and spade right next to me. Do you have to be second fiddle at the moment or?
Yeah, man. I'm the new kid on the block. We're all new cast. It's all new cast except for spade
tomatoes and norm mcdonald's
Wow
And we're like whoa and even looking at norman spay. I was like, oh these guys are star. This is huge. Yeah
really looking off to them and uh
The press conference go and I dropped the ball right out of the bat right out of the bat
Um, they asked me the lord the head of NBC who fought for me to be there
Goes, uh, jim. What was it like growing up watching snl now you hear you from new york and now a fellow new yorker
I said, I didn't watch snl growing up. Well, you can hear I was like, oh
Oh, I saw a lot. I went. Oh, that was that was spade went
So he said
And I knew right away like oh man, that was really bad. That was a bad
and so he goes
I go well, I I
I wasn't allowed to because I was young and he goes. What about when you were old?
He's trying to prep me. He goes surely when you got older
And and we're allowed to watch it and I went I was out on satis. I wasn't watching tv and
And norm's like
You're gonna like you
You're gonna like you
Yeah, this guy is my guy and he's smoking
He's smoking and and marci kline
He's going nor put out the cigarette. I'm not done. This guy's gonna get fired
So I think I'm gonna get fired because I saw Lord Michael's face. He was passed
So you sitting there super nervous at this point? I swear in my life and my kids lies
I thought I was gonna get fired because I just basically said I don't want to sound it alive. Yeah, and I never did
and
Yeah, which is not not a good answer the message in front of the press. Yeah
And I didn't say it in a mean manner, but I could just tell the boss man was like
Uh, so, uh, Jesus lord. So now I'm sitting there thinking I'm gonna get fired
Swear to god and I'm just like, oh my god, even get I didn't even make it the first episode
I'm gonna let me go. This is what's going on my head
There has there has to be a video of this press conference in the black market somewhere
I've looked for it never found it
It's the 1995 press conference. Okay, and and so
They asked norm they go norm
You tim meadows david spade
You've been here you you know the frat house everyone knows snl is a frat house
What kind of what kind of practical jokes you got lined up for these new cast members?
And I swear to you I went
I'm not even going to be part of the
The frat house or the practical jokes
And norm goes
Uh, uh, he first of all, he's annoyed. He goes practical jokes
Is that what you asked? What kind of practical jokes?
Ah, well first we were thinking about anal rape
You know like hey, hey, yeah, take your pair. We're gonna anal rape you welcome to silent line. We're going
Oh, shit. He's gonna get fired too. Yeah
Yeah
You can't say anal rape in front of the press
He said anal rape. So suddenly you're like, I'm back in it. I'm in it. I'm good. I'm good
And I went up to him after I went nor he's like they don't get it. No, he has a shipper
If I get you know, he's fucked these guys
And I realized he would pitch
At the pitch meeting. He just didn't care
He didn't care
And I learned so much from him
Just clearly he saw a lot and he's been there forever. Like he would I remember he got he got he gathered the new cast up
He's like he got supporting. I guess
Hey, uh
Don't write me any of your gay sketches
Yes, I'm telling you right now and I do sketches getting on but don't put me any of your gay little sketches
I swear to god, man
Did I also traumatized him? We were we would play football in the hallway
Because he was very competitive. He's always betting
And it was a very tiny hallway. Maybe as wide as this maybe
And uh, he like come on
Three in the morning. Oh, fucking come on. I'm fucking playing football. Me, you, Collin Quinn and fucking uh, Justin
Justin you fucking fucked the phone calls. No one's gone three in the morning. Get the fucking ball. Let's go
Yeah, so he would cheat would piss me off because I'm competitive
And I'll never forget. He keeps cheating and cheating and now I'm pissed. How's he cheating?
It's like a hallway. It's like a hospital hallway, but he fucking cheat. He's a cheater. Yeah, right? So
Oh, yeah, he has a cheater. I had boots on
So I had I had work boots on. Yeah. Yeah, because yeah, you used those to write in
I'm supposed to be writing fucking work boots on stone. Oh, the ink's heavy. Yeah. Yeah. So now
Yeah
he he
He cheered I caught the ball and then he he grabbed it
And pulled it from me. He's like, hey fumble and he starts running the other way. I'll never forget
I fucking kicked him as he's running in his in his calf on
pow
And he goes
Jesus christ, bro. Why did you fucking kick me in my fucking calf?
Oh
Listen, could you just cheat and say you're fucking kick me?
Jesus Christ and all he did all week. He's like fucking really fucking kick me in my calf
Because I took the fucking ball. Jesus Christ, bro
In spades just into this is like
Yeah, and so
Those in a moments. I absolutely I loved more that stuff
You know all of it was worth it. All of it was worth it. What needy but it was all worth it
God. So damn, I'm exhausted. Yeah, we'll finish up, man
I could talk for hours. We'll chat. We'll chat another another day. We'll- I'm coming to the show tonight and we'll come watch
which one not sure which one's better you think probably well the second one
I'll prop I'm looser and I'll go longer the first one I'll come second one
because I'm yeah you're on time restraint I'm yeah yeah it's so early and a lot of
my bits are long so I I constantly go okay so I'm 40 minutes and should I do
this one so it's I think a little bit more in the first shows where last
and excuse me last night's no thinking second shows it's not thinking yes like
yeah I feel like going this way go this way
did it change is how many change to you in different times like were there
times where you got to like okay this was my set and then you started to change
at a per as a person because this one thing I'm noticing for myself like
sometimes I'm trying to maybe still be a person that did a set from previous in
my life but I'm I'm being I'm different as a human yeah and it's scary to think
well I still be able to be funny as this person that's growing and getting
different than I was as this person who was it's scary but you will be you've
you've long past that part yeah you've you've learned to grow you've learned to
grow as a person you you you've learned to grow as an entertainer you learn to
grow you learn you've you've created your audience and your following and you
will make them grow up with you in every direction oh wow and that's what I
discovered my biggest fear was I'm a family guy I'm getting really exhausted
trying to appeal to something I'm not totally yeah and at that time yeah I was
kind of stoner I loved me yeah man he's doing life's good haha and it was great
but once I had kids I started moving along like I'm not this guy and I'm
tired I can't hold on to pretend to be in this person for so much longer and then
as I grew it was around 2008 I was just like listen I'm going on a ride if you
guys want to come along come along but I'm never gonna be I can't be what I was
five ten fifteen years ago because I'm not yeah I'm letting no one is I'm letting
you go huh I gotta let you go I loved you for being there but we'll move along
and my I have to say the audience grew to to a point where I had no they and not
only did they grow you created everyone you want to be with wow and that's what
you're gonna do and that's what you do do well that's fascinating to hear that
yeah Dorfman at the club says this is the funniest that he's ever seen you he
said oh I feel cuz I just he said that the other day I'm really good in life
I'm really good what you what today's you know we I saw him the other night I
stopped by to see Schneider oh so he didn't even see me last night no he
hadn't seen you he just said from the last time he just he just talked about
your career a little bit and then yeah I got better yeah he's telling me that too
I said yeah cuz I I'm not trying anymore I know I'm funny yeah I know I'm
gonna entertain you I'm very comfortable going in certain directions even if I go
too heavy and I'm gonna come back and smack you with something else yeah
there's some material I'm doing now that I'm bored with and I want to do a lot
but I'll come out and go I'm gonna do the first half hours just winging it but
then I'll see they're really stoked and I'll go yeah there's that thing in your
head I don't want to I don't know if this is the crowd to take the chance with I
don't want to waste there like this and the last thing I want to do is bring
him here and then bring him back and so it's a constant mind game what might my
show but every show is different cool well I'll be out there tonight and thanks
so much for hanging out bro my god this was such a good time dude it's awesome
and talked forever and ever and I appreciate you giving me that opportunity
and giving me that trust and and this whole feeling it's good energy man thanks
man yeah it's exciting to hear and just to learn and just I think I look at other
comedians and yeah just even hearing that I'll be okay and that this is a
performing this is a human you know I think there's a level of that that you
know especially getting involved in Hollywood and this just all the whole
journey it's like well I'd be okay as a human you know you'll be fine you're
already are yeah you're already there hey man bro thanks man brother be
good
for me to set that parking brake and left myself on my I said and tell you
and I'll be moving way too fast on the runaway train with the heavy load of
my hands and these wheels that I've been riding on they want so thin that they're
gonna go now three