This Past Weekend - E325 Bryan Callen

Episode Date: February 28, 2021

Theo sits down with his friend Bryan Callen to talk about dualism, what Bryan did during his hiatus, and what they like about each other besides hair and comedy. https://bit.ly/theo-von Follow Bryanhttps://instagram.com/bryancallen This episode is brought to you by: Hood Hat: https://hoodhat.com and use code THEO20 for 20% off Modiphy: https://modiphy.com/theo  Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com    Music:“Shine” - Bishop Gunnhttp://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn   Hit the Hotline[phone]   Video Hotline for TheoUpload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline   Find Theo:Website: https://theovon.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/theovonFacebook: https://facebook.com/theovonFacebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekendTwitter: https://twitter.com/theovonYouTube: https://youtube.com/theovonClips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw   Producer: Nick Davis https://instagram.com/realnickdavis   Producer: Sean Dugan https://www.instagram.com/SeanDugan/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today's guest is is a man who first had me on a podcast as a human and He is one half of a member of fighter in the kids He is an actor an entertainer and and a knowledgeable man Today's guest is comedian Brian Callins I wouldn't do it like on and I wouldn't fuck Tim Welch up regularly. It would be

Have to be a special occasion. Yeah, Tim will grab you though. Let him grab man. He's got a bag of tricks on him That's how I've been getting lean, bro. Is that right? Yeah Let's to grab bro. You want to get me better get him by an organ because they can't because their hands just fall off It's like trying to grab a dolphin or something. Oh, it's yeah, it's like trying to grab. Oh, yeah It's like trying to grab Like it's not grab the the top of a cave like an old cave or a piece of marble is tread upon for many many years When you go to a it's like trying to grab diarrhea if somebody's on an all-oil diet Yeah, that's possible sometimes when you go in the

If you're in like Rome or you're you there's a well Where people have been getting their water and the marble is actually worn away from where people have been leaning. No way Yes, so that's when you know or steps. You can walk in. Oh, yeah There's some steps dude in the old country and you and you and it's there's an indent The marble has been worn away from where people have walked. My friend lives in a villa like that and Is he rich roveretto or Trentino in the north of Italy. Jesus. He used to be rich I'll spray my neck even saying that I know the way they said roveretto

Trentino. Oh Dude by the time they're done saying it. I'm freaking nude, huh? Are we rolling? Yeah, man. Nice and I'm not saying that I would take Tim Welch. I want to well, that's what you said though But I'll take Tim Welch. I think that's exactly what you said. So I'd like to Sugar shone on Mali's coach Yeah, now I Rolled with him when I say rolled with them. We did a little flow grappling a little light flow grappling

Okay, on the ground or on the feet on the feet and the ground feet on the ground we go feet and ground we go feet and ground and then sometimes they go in the air if I'm doing kung-fu and And I he's a gorilla now. He's a gorilla. That's a different kind of strength That's a man who hasn't stopped training and fighting forever. Well, he likes to sit I know he has that like a lot of gorilla. You'll see that the The rangatangs they will play in the trees. They'll be milling around. Yeah, orangutan He's a person of the forest trading a dukey with another one But you'll see the gorilla is always sitting there and he just gets into some big beefy

He's like a man. Rangatan. Isn't he he really is yeah, cuz he's a ginger. Yeah, yeah He's one of the rare Ranga gingers. He's a Ranga ginger or What did they call him in Australia they call him a gingers Gangers, I don't think they're a ginger instead of ginger if you pronounce it ginger. Oh really a gangers. Yeah, these gingers Yeah, he's a he's a different kind of ginger though. There's a brown. I'm not saying I will take him I meant I will take him somewhere if he needs a ride That's what I meant. I meant I will uber. All right for Tim was look at him though. Wow now Tim Timmel and so Sean Sean

Sean O'Malley, it's so funny because he fights at 135 and and I'm 170 and obviously obviously he'd knock me out right now you think yeah I'd be like all right Let's go pop and you know and if God forbid you try to roll with them because he'd do something like get you in an ankle Or whatever. How do you want to lose? You want to fight? Yeah, you and I have to fight your own How do you want to lose the question is Theo Brian? How do you want to lose? How do you want to lose if you want to hit do you want an ankle lock?

Do you want to get knocked out? Just just just tell I think you got to get him in that hard scarf, baby That's the only way to go. Well, yeah, I got but I know look I there's rumors out there about sugar Sean's that he He can kick you and play Uh bait toven on your ribs with his toes at the same time. Yes, you can like there's just the level of speed that he has Well, he's got he's got an ass on him. See if you can bring up sugar Sean O'Malley's ass He's got a tailpiece. Does he yeah, he's a thin guy whereas he likes to wear tight pants as well He should and he's got an ass my girlfriend was like he's got an ass on him. Really? Yeah, she was how can you even have an Ass at 135 you got to really get to 140 to even have that he walks around probably at 155 160

It's a good point. You know what I mean? Yeah, I hope his he has torso. He had a torso issue. I think so. Hopefully his tarsals are Tightening up having a torso issue. I don't really do we have to look at the ass of this man? No, I mean, I believe you but I you know what I I I I feel like I notice if somebody has an ass and I don't and there he is fighting Josh Brolin right there Yes, he did and Josh beat him up. Oh, yeah, I know I can see that I had just from a different era Yeah, he's from like the mezzoloic dog. Well from old school I had a bunch of stuntmen talking about they worked on old boy. I think it's called that that remake of that Korean

Oh the Japanese movie Korean movie. Well Come on. We know what you're saying. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about Yeah, and they all the stuntmen said that guy is very strong who brolin Yeah, he was he was he's a bull like he was able to do a lot of his own stunts They were they were actually shocked at how strong he was. Oh, I shook his hand before and it's like, you know When you get up to like a door and it's locked. Yeah, it's the same type of thing. Yeah, like oh, you can't really do much I say I shook a guy named Rich in Cognito's hand. He's be placed. Yeah. Yeah, I think defensive tacklers offensive tackle Yeah, he called out that gay the other gentleman who he got an argument to get the Larry tonsil or whatever

I think that was good. Yeah, he got in trouble for bullying. I think but he's always been a tough which you should do I feel like if your job is being this guy. Yeah now. He's so big though. Like is that counterly sun, dude It might wait go to that that picture right there where he's got that bills hat on right there Look at how look at how just thick he is. Oh, yeah, look at how thick he is He's a he's a blonde silverback. I couldn't put my he I couldn't put my hand So when I shook his hand my hand didn't reach all the way around his palm So his palm his two of mine. It was so weird and it go both hands on his hand like I had to go Yeah, I had to go I had to go like this use one hand is your knuckles and one hand is your hand

I said, how much did you squat? How much do you squat? He goes? Well, I mean I used to when I was going crazy You know probably I don't know 805. I went you had to add the five pounds to the eight Yeah, he got it. I think you have yelled at Tiger Woods son or whatever Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin If you're a pro athlete at one sport, what would it be? Because you played what basketball football played basketball you want to bring up the picnic We got a pig here. Well when we we call him pick. That's his nickname is picnic When we when we need a JPEG. Oh, I got you. You know, Nick was a premature baby. Do you know that? He's a tall kid. So I'm surprised you got a lot of you probably milk as a boy. I did I do love milk back back back

You come from I'm gonna guess I'm gonna come I'm gonna guess you come from Scandinavian stock. I Actually don't know my family history that well. He was adopted by his grandmother, dude. Mm-hmm. I Think I'm like German Irish What look at look at the oven There I am right there dog Wow, now you're the only white kid on that team. Well, the other kid behind me was white and black Okay, so you were you were the minority in that group. Yeah, you keep in touch. Hey those guys a

Lot of these guys didn't have phones and I do they have phones now some of them One guy was 35 years old the guy on the top, right? Yeah, dude, he would drop his son off at school in the morning and then Bertin that he wasn't going to school and then come into school Yeah, he looks he looks like he's got a mortgage Yeah, definitely man damn Basketball funny how skinny we were as kids. Oh crazy. Yeah, and then when you're skinny your adults go you're gonna fill out Yeah, I never filled out

Really? No, what's one of what is one of how do you age gracefully? I know that you've been aging or getting into aging Yeah, yeah, I've been getting in and how do you age gracefully? Do you feel like? Stay productive sleep. Well physical. Let's start with physically you sleep is the most important Most people are underslept really but that requires but then if you're gonna talk about fucking sleep Tim welts, dude Damn, dude. All right. Oh, dude. You got I don't know Look, you're coming hard on you're coming hard on Tim. Well, it's right. None of this is gonna end. Well, dude He's gonna feel how mad he is right now. I know it's blowing up. Tim already hears Tim calm down. I'll talk sense into him

I know that none of this is gonna end well or age. Well, damn when there's a video years from now of Tim Bucking just sending me to Sayonara town. Yeah. Yeah. It was just working your body So it is not you out at first just hitting you in the liver. Yeah He'll dress up like a lumberjack and just literally chop me down just chop his axe feet look like a piece of wood to me Jack Jack Meet my Paul Bunions. He'll dress up like a woodpecker for Halloween and just show up at a party on that and just And just take it to my neck. You'll just take his feet and go I got bunions on my feet time for you meet my Paul Bunions and start just kicking you about the legs

Oh, dude blood clots and now rush into the hospital. Babe the blue blood clots. Oh They can kick you when they kick you down here or behind the knee that Muay Thai shit You can keep it. They just have different bones. We got Corey Sandhagan coming in today Corey Sandhagan is Corey Sandhagan I his coach Christian Allen I watched that kid train before anybody knew it was I was at high altitude really and that dude is And how do you get up to high altitude? You don't have to have ladders to get into the building or so? No, no, no, it's just in Denver. You just go to Denver. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's Cody

Donovan's school and and Christian Allen who's a genius a genius. He's a ninja Christian Allen's a ninja And Christian Allen is that was his protege. I took a couple striking classes from Christian Allen, which I have no business doing There's no I'm there's not absolutely no reason But I would go back to my boxing gym and use just some of the shit he taught me and it would fucking they'd be like What is that? It's just he's just like he's he's this creative savante and Corey Sandhagan is a product of that and Corey Sandhagan's been training since he was 16 years old. Wow. I don't see anyone in the 35 pound division. I Mean, I all do respect to everybody there because that's a stacked division, but anybody who fights Sandhagan

If I had to put my money on the future champion, I gotta be honest. It's Sandhagan Well, he looks at the the thing when you're watching him. Also, he looks like he has another 200 fights in him. Well, he does like he just I think at that weight to those guys Just don't wear down as is quickly. He doesn't take a lot of punishment number. Yeah, and he's just on the move so much And he's also 5 11 5 10 11. So he's like my height I'm 6 4, but he's but I slouch when I slouch, but he's tall and he gets down to 35 And so he's doing shit. It's this new shit. You know, I was talking to Mollick who grew up boxing Larry Mollick No, Mollick B. Oh, oh, yeah, and Larry Mollick. He keeps changing his name, dude. It's mallet. Malik

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the weirdest thing sometimes you meet a black guy who doesn't know how to pronounce Malik Could be Malik, Malik, Malik. I call him Malik. I don't know. I like it. I like this soft a I like it looks and look Honestly, seasonally, I will change up how I do the vowels in his name I will also call him Malak. Malak is you know, if it's an Egyptian holiday I'll fucking go full Malak on him. Malik. You know what Malik means in Arabic? King. No way. Yeah, he is kind of a king man. Yeah Um, but he was telling me how boxing has changed when he now we trust as far with these younger dudes

They're doing shit. He hasn't seen Wow They're doing weird because everything evolves people come up with if you're in a gym and everybody's doing the same thing You start getting used to each other's patterns Then somebody comes along with somebody innovates something. Yeah, somebody goes I'm gonna I'm gonna come in with a lead uppercut You know and in a hook and you're like well, but that's not supposed to be that's not what happens But he's a he's an unbelievable boxer Malik Bazo. Oh, dude You try try boxing with that guy. I'm not fighting that guy. He'll sleep you

I'm not gonna fight him. No, but wait, we were talking about and yeah, we were talking about oh sleep a great So the fighter has more the fighter and the kids has more fighters on it now. Yeah Yeah, so it's interesting because the only kids on there is Chapelle and Brendan. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then it's you and My Michael My what's what season is it? No, but you asked me how I age gracefully Yeah, let's get back into that man. So first I want to know physically. How do you age gracefully first of all? I think you have to sleep is everything. Okay, so but the problem with that is that people I don't sleep well Are you eating a lot before you go to bed? What kind of food are you eating?

Are you on any kind of like? Stimulants now, what if you have a couple good dive of chocolates? It depends but as you get older, you're gonna have more and more of a problem as you get older You could you when I was younger I could drink a bottle of wine red wine. No problem. I had energy I had energy. Wow. What was it in was it in like one of those? Can you bring up a cask of red wine, please? I just wanted to drink it from a cask. Did you actually you drink it from up from up from a leather bladder? From an old-school flat I've heard stories of Yeah, can we get an image of a cask of red wine?

Yeah, that's a cask. I think It's a wine cask see that you know what I was looking for more. I was looking more for the an Old-timey old a cask is what you you've transported in maybe or just you store it in or you age it in but but uh a Flask you use a leather a leather flask You know, I'm thinking we have more like that bladder that more like that that would probably change the taste of the wine You see you understand. So you need what you need is you need a glass bottle. You age it under Preferably 55 what bitch wants to pull out a glass bottle with his buddies You guys are all on a mountain side relaxing. Yeah, the women are walking, you know

If they want to do it or doing washing down by the creek or collecting berries Yes, if it's a traditional art if it's a traditional hike they're gathering and you guys are hunting, right? I mean, I right everybody's playing there. Everybody's doing helping out and there's a room for the other person There are other genders that might be represented there who might do both right right or am I choose? Right to do. Yes, maybe one day the biggest hunters like oh, I'm gonna go hunt berries, you know That's right. Whoa. Oh, that's right calm down a lot. Yeah We need you back Yeah, so okay, so sleep water and then I think I actually believe in

In now, do you do water before you go to sleep? Sometimes but I think more importantly is in the morning and then what I think is important is not eating too much Never overloading your system never so if you I do think intermittent fasting is a really good idea Wow, and I think eating simply and not overloading your body. You can feel it dude I've done I haven't intermittent fasting, but I've had mittens on before and it's so hard to fucking eat with it And that's the same god damn thing. Yeah, how you supposed to butter your toast with mitt Oh, it's impossible. It's impossible and you're spitting out whoop whoop. Oh, yeah, damn it And it's like at least they're wool though

And why do you wear wool when you why do you wear wool when you're hunting because you are trying to attract animals? No, because you need why would you wear wool instead of cotton? I would wear wool instead of cotton because wool is warmer Well, it is Especially when when it is nighttime when it gets wet when it gets wet. Yeah, so wool gets wet better Yeah, if you cotton kills If you get wet and cotton you gonna die you get wet and wool Wool will actually keep you warm. It's it acts like almost like an insulating like a like a it's almost like a

Wet suit so you'll stay alive longer in wool. You don't want to be wet period But we'll so that's why your first two layers when you go hunting or in the wilderness is always wool You don't you can use polyester. Maybe but you want wool. I Don't want to do I want to do if I'm going outside. I like to have one wool socks Actually, if I'm on a long distance flight, I'll even wear wool socks. Yeah, that's where I'm at age wise I got all kinds of things about I'm terrified of the cold. I'm afraid of the cold cold makes me a coward So I always have warm shit in my car including fire making material. Oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying So does that so I guess I do but not really

I mean if I can you know you live in Venice, so it's kind of like in case Venice goes There's enough homeless who's making fire But in case it goes to the wolves, maybe the vegetation Oh, for sure that there's a virus and vegetation gets crazy and now we're in this tropical jungle because of global warming And now I got to make a fire. Here's a question right here, man from Peter Peter Leon, son Hey, Peter take your hood off. Yeah, kid. What's up, Brian? What's up, Theo coming here from Los Angeles? I ran into Brian about two years ago in Venice. It was too much of a bitch to say. What's up? my biggest regret in life pretty much but

Speaking of Venice, I would say yeah, I'm Brian you can talk about no He said he was a bitch for not saying hi, okay, but I respect the fact you thought he called that you were the bill I always say hi. I'm always super nice Jim vibes a lot of homosexuality there Hey, man, brother a lot of people touching people in odd places You have any experience with that? Maybe some tips on how to Navigate the waters and just get your workout in true alpha like Brian would know Thanks, and he was talking about specifically the Venice golds. Yeah, well

I'm very very appreciative of that question because I was working out in the Golds in Hollywood when I was a young man and I was cute when I was a young man I knew I was getting older cuz gay men stop looking at me. Oh, you stand now when I was younger They just give you money at that point. Yeah, when I was younger I was skinny and I but I had a pretty face. I had a pretty out of delicate nose and My jaw was well-defined and I damn right down there. I had heavy eyelids I had not not heavy eyelids, but I you could see the I just oh, yeah You can see the me even though I just had my lids. It doesn't work, you know, so I had I look I was cute and

I was doing I was doing these I never liked lifting weights. I just like whatever, but I'm there and I'm doing I'm doing Those are unique too. Those are those kind of like I'm a kangaroo. Look at me. You know, that's for your triceps I never could do I hated working out where I was just doing curls and I was like I can't do it I want to do something with like where I feel like I'm becoming more athletic not not not looking like a bodybuilder, right? So I'm doing this stupid bodybuilding thing and a guy gets behind me He gets behind me because doing it wrong a white guy. Yep. Oh, you're doing it wrong. What's up? And he goes get your butt in there and he kicks my knee And he grabs my elbows and I'm like, I don't know what the fuck is going on here, man

So we just went with it. We dated for like three years I know and then I was like, I'm straight and I ran out. I was like, I can't do this anymore But you get confused. Oh, yeah, no The answer that question is you're gonna sometimes you can get like what the fuck and you're living with each other You have two small dogs. You have a vegetable garden. Yeah, I'm not gay, but it can take a while It can take a while. It's comfortable. They can they it can get comfortable when you're shocked up with it They lull you in with the wind chime you go to their house and there's wind chimes and some of the wind chimes It's other young men screaming for help when the wind hits the pipe

I've been attracted to there's a guy yesterday That's crazy, bro, like where do you get that wind chime, dude? And why does each chime have a person's name written on you have somebody somewhere in this house? Oh, is there somebody under the floorboards? That's Edgar Allen foe man. Yeah, it is Edgar Allen foe. I'll tell heart. God damn right, bro. He orders in the floorboards, dog Okay, so sleep and water helps but you but yeah to get back to this man's question. Sorry a Lot of men and look one thing that's not discussed a lot of times in America is The aggression of it's always looked at that men straight men are the predators in America

There is also predatorial behavior by gay men And it is unchecked. There's nobody monitoring it. Yeah, there's nobody Uh, it's guy on guy crime. So guys are right, but you see how I I I think you can quickly see how women are Disgruntled by the behavior of men sometimes by men flirting with them Because it happens so aggressively with men, you know, yeah, that's very true It's just it's tough to like and there's no and you if you go to the supermarket a whole foods and you're a good-looking woman You know, you're gonna be dealing with Energy, yeah, it's like it's like it's almost like being a celebrity where you know all those people want to talk to you

And they're going to something's gonna happen. Yeah, you know what I mean like You're gonna have to your first of all, you're aware of how you look because you have to be because they're staring at you You know, they're gonna look for an excuse to talk to you. They know, you know, they're gonna try to stop you It's all that it's like being on a decent podcast It's like being on a decent podcast. It really is love your podcast, bro. And then they want to take yeah God bless, but you know, it's different for women for guys. It's like, ah, you know, they like me but for women But for women, yeah, there's more of a I bet it's exhausting. But then you also get dangerous like guys who follow you and shit There's always that danger. I think for women where men don't have to deal with that

Men men can always it's just different, right? If a dude follows you back to your place, you can like, hey, dude What are you doing in my place? Yeah, whereas women it's more like, yeah, it's gotta be it's probably a lot scarier Yeah, but it's getting the guy who follows you back to your place, you know as a guy You can be like, well, make sure you close the door or whatever it is. Yeah Yeah, can I get you a drink? Yeah, um, can I get you a uh But wait, so so aging gracefully Um, is that what we're talking about? Oh, no, you were trying to answer this question I was trying to answer this guy's question because I feel like this doesn't get talked about enough

That there is man's that Will do anything to be gay with you And a attractive here's what I realized the other day the hottest guy That a gay male can get is a straight male I've heard that from other game. No the hottest girl. That's their hottest girl Like our hottest girl is like a hot girl. It's like I gotta get a hot girl The hottest girl for a for a gay man is a straight guy. That's their hottest girl Turning a straight guy. Yeah. Yeah and like

Like people were like, yeah, it's like first of all the term turning a guy straight sounds There's a physical element to it. It sounds like a fucking crime. Yeah, I don't know. I It's still a guy. I've seen women like there was a guy yesterday. I saw who was a host of uh, he was like seating people And he was Tall he was dressed so well and he was so effeminate He smelled so good and he had short blonde hair And he was just like he was perfect and he had really delicate features. He was beautiful He looked like a beautiful

He was so androgynous like a little lay out like a and he was super nice And he had a kind of a very non-threatening voice and you and I was looking at him and I was like I'm definitely I'm drawn to this this this might be a man, but he's got so much feminine energy That's Rome. That's that Roman. Yeah that you're like you're like, you know, it wasn't that I wanted to have sex with him But I appreciated how beautiful he was as a creature. I'd feed him olives Yeah, I'd never I didn't even know I was like, I'm not gonna call him a guy or a girl This is where the gender fluid thing. Yeah makes sense and that's where we're headed. I feel like well I have a theory on all of it

Like right now we're trying to deal with this non-duality, right? So, you know, you know the idea behind So so a lot of this this gender stuff comes from jock Derrida who talked about so when you have a you have a dualistic mind Most of us have a dualistic mind. I do probably I don't know male female. I do, you know male female reason passion Oh, yeah, I have all that logic superstition. Yes, we break up We break the world up into two the male female yin and yang hot and cold And what Derrida said, I think he was I think Derrida was the fucking the biggest mental masturbator of all time But what he said was he said if you have a dualistic sense of mind you automatically privilege one Over the other you automatically are going to privilege male over female

Maybe hot over there's a tendency to privilege. So reason over passion Be reasonable be logical. Don't be superstitious when we have this Um, uh, be the mind over over the over the heart, you know, that's always the battle the mind or the spirit over the flesh So we think dualistically and so the idea is when you do that you're going to always favor one It's it's we are we construct as human beings Maps of meaning and you're going to always favor one over the other and when you do that automatically If you if that's your language structure, there's going to be built in prejudice. There's going to be a built-in power structure

You understand and so so The idea behind a non dualistic way of thinking the idea behind Going beyond male and female for example in gender is the idea that that's how you And beyond beyond going black and white, you know, the the idea is racist non-racist. How about anti-racist the idea? Is that you will sort of not? Favor one over the other and maybe there's value in favoring the one that you usually don't favor Over the other you got to switch it up. So you fuck with your brain, right? So that you fuck with the entire power structure, right? That that would be the idea behind that's what's coming on in the universities

That's what's going on in the humanities. That's what Jordan Peterson talks about. That's why you have this huge fight with gender now Right. So so now now now you have it's very interesting because the feminists are having a big problem With the transgender community because for a lot of feminists, they're going to wait You're saying you're you're a man. You're a biological man, but you're saying you identify as a woman And so now you're you're trying to be on equal footing with women meaning for example You should be able to compete in women's sports, which means women who are biological get their scholarships taken away because you might be physically Just more advantaged. You're a man So it's very interesting to see how the feminist movement is grading up against the trans movement. It's becoming this whole

It's becoming this whole crazy debate WNBA. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, but no, I feel you because from a philosophy a french philosophy It comes from foucault. It comes from Derrida, I mean if you look at the fathers of these these kinds of thoughts, it's very interesting So so you're saying that like because we got stuck in this old idea of black or white male or female That now things it's starting to become the picture is becoming like Muddier, but we're still kind of chained to some of these old ways We are because that's the way our brains work, right? And I don't know if some of it's evolutionary or biological

I would imagine a lot of it's evolutionary, but right a lot of it says evolutionary A lot of it is like us because yeah a lot of the things I hear and read these some days It's like this just this sounds cool. It's a neat idea Yeah, but it's not gonna flow actually flow through the system that I am made of well when you get to the level of detail It's really hard to implement Right, but I have to say that like as somebody who felt very uneasy about all this woke shit I will say this like I do I know that if you watch commercials now It's always like it's always a mixed couple, right? So that's like a black man with a white woman a white woman

man, and so so That there's this there's this this forced sort of diversity inclusion thing But what I like about that in a way is that it is kids are growing up with the idea that That's the normal right it used to be with my generation of a black and a white person got married It was already it was always like you like oh you call them zebras Yeah, yeah, and now it's like what what the left wants to do And I understand it is kind of try to erase all that from your mind Yeah, don't see color and don't even see gender because if you make it an issue

The problem is when you try to do that you're actually making an issue So that that's the trap that you have to get out of and I don't know how to get out of that But I do appreciate I will say that In a lot of ways a lot of this woke shit Is like so if you're trans if you're a child and you do have a have this gender thing going on Like you're a man, but you feel like a woman. I really do believe that's a biological thing I do believe that there are some people that just are born that way They're born into a male body. Yeah, they're born into a male body, but they feel like a woman

There's so many people dude. I used to do it when that Shania Twain song would come on if I'm real honest with you I would be honest. I would close my door and do the damn Well, we all have put on the floor. We all you know There's all spectrum some people are more feminine more masculine right and we certainly get caged into What is expected? There's a lot of conditioning in the world for sure Like this is the way I'm supposed to be and so Yeah, I think it's It's a there's a lot. It's a it's a lot to to piece apart

It is because but I think that what I think is technology and gene editing and And meshing with computers if you read the singularity is near You know human beings are going to start being able to not only control their own biology their own evolution But they might be able to control even their own I don't know if it's sex, but but the idea of Transforming into what you actually want to be through gene editing as an adult is not far It's not far-fetched. It just isn't you will be able to eventually

Right now the the process of turning into a woman is crude. It's hard It's it requires a great deal of surgery and things like that stirrups I all that stuff. I think eventually what's going to happen is when we have the technology You think it'd be a just your genes in real time. Yes to genetically You know, you will be able to genetically morph into the female the biological version of yourself as a female And that's not that's not at all unscientific now Now we are already going to be how would we talk about gender now?

So a lot of this is almost like this. I always try to look at these big trends as Evolutionarily, it's like it's just there's an evolution to it. There is right. Well, sometimes it's it's hard to like with with media and like Them pushing people certain ways. It's hard to sometimes know. What is like Just where things are going and what is like, okay lead People trying to lead you over there for like commercial value, you know, well like that's a hard thing to notice sometimes But yeah, I think as like I can't imagine if you could press a button or take a tonic or something And over like a week period you'd be like, yeah, I'm fucking yeah I'm doing drywall right now

But in a week, I'm going to be a fucking at least an aid in florida A female aid and you would and you would and then you see your buddies down there who's doing drywall He's down there because you got a different job. He got relocated. Well, and you guys just see each other in the elevator Yeah, that's already happened. But now it requires a great deal of surgery. It's very rudimentary. They call it Yeah, it's it's physical and rudimentary and I mean, it's a real hacksaw gym dug in there. You basically yeah Look and then here you go right here. Now this this guy This this is gabriel lug Ludwig. It recently went viral people tried to say this is just happening She's playing for santa claire

Community college, but it was actually from 2012, but she was a former navy seal. Oh come on Yeah, really? Yeah, the usa today profiled her struggles of being on the steam but again back in 2012. She's already a One percenter when it comes to men biologically, right? She's six three or six four eight six eight and she was a seal Six eight is too tall for a seal. I think right and so there's these other girls like naval tattoos Yeah, she first of all she could ex navy soldier not seals. Yeah, sorry and professor or Senator not senator. Um admiral lugwig Could easily be some of these women's fathers. Okay. He's the oldest is uh, at the time she was 50 50

When she died, dude, she fucking got her dime on and fucking balled out. What is going on here? Like I to me Look, I've long said white men should be allowed to play in the wmba As have I but that's not a white man. That's a white woman. Theo right now. It is platformed But see but but here's what's here. I think also a lot of our like the structure We know so far like all the rule books are male based and female based like there's a lot of people that don't want to like You get stuck in the patterns and of what was of what the way things have been It's hard to be like Okay, now we're gonna just change it up, you know

Well change takes time too. I'm not against it. It's just like yeah, but wait a minute The the if you're a mother, uh-huh, and you've dedicated your whole life To getting your daughter to practice. Yep, and to get a scholarship because you don't have the money You need the money and your daughter's really gifted a tennis or she's really gifted at wrestling or she's really We're singing like Selena. Well, no singing is not a good example. I'm talking about a sport. She's she's she's she's So a body sport not a throat scholarship to basketball or track okay, and A man a biological man says i'm now a woman. I'm not gonna get any i'm not even gonna get any estrogen. I'm just a woman

I identify as a woman and goes and uh decides to Compete and takes that scholarship away from your daughter you can understand How frustrating that would be oh be heartbreaking for the mother and for the daughter and also why feminists now go wait Wait, wait, we've been fighting so hard to get these navigate this right how I don't know how to navigate it the turfs Yeah, well look exclusionary radical feminists. Well, so so then if you bring that up though You're called a transphobe or you're too no no no no no no no that's not fair either

We're just trying to solve a problem and bring up an issue that is real So now what do we do about that like what what do you do about that shit? I I don't want somebody who feels Different or feels like they're a woman or a vice versa, but they were born another sex. Yeah I don't want them being excluded. Right But at the same time, you know, they can't be cheating and just putting a kamara on every freaking Well, you know chick at at 105. That's what's yeah that but that's kind of what's That's the dilemma Right and it makes sense because you're making a lot of rules where it's like, okay, whatever you identify as that's what you

Can play as so of course some people's gonna bend the system, you know what I'm saying Yeah, but that's a political that's also an ideological and political stance So if you can just identify in whatever you say, but that's what it's getting to be Well, so whatever so then that means that your whatever you you Conceive and conceptualize right is truth Then this is Derrida then there's no truth So in other words, if we don't have a standard on which we can stand if there's not a standard that we can more That we can anchor into right just so that we can know

That we can distinguish of course life is you have to have that Well, but but but no because there are a lot of there's a philosophy out there And it comes from Derrida and and that says no there should be zero categories. It's why the Maoists put Everybody in the same uniform and with the same haircut. It was the idea of eradicating Literally any distinction But mother nature is gonna have her say in that of course. She is you know, it's of course And also the number this is what gets me the number of people

That it applies to to immediately take that template and put it against the The Bill the the majority the mass majority. Yeah, and then a lot of times they try and force it in immediately That's the kind of shit where you get so much rebuttal because it's disrespectful to just force it immediately I know it's disrespectful also to it's a little bit more than that, buddy If you even talk about this if you even And now if you were to if you had the point of view say you had the point of view that there are two sexes Or that there that your biology is what sticks

Okay, you'll get de-platformed. You're considered you're you're you're practicing hate speech and you will be De-platformed from everywhere including youtube really and patreon anywhere else It's called so we can think stuff like that. We can't say it. You're not you're not allowed to speak So where do you say you just go chiseled it into a bent the first amendment doesn't really exist anymore And that's Very it's a sign saying It's very dangerous

And nobody I don't think enough people are talking about it. And I certainly don't think enough people who are pushing this narrative really understand What's what no a lot of people are just chasing clout. They're chasing uh, weenie and And vagina. They just want all the they want any type of fucking body You know genital clout, but what I'm saying is Have a separate League for these For the middlemen of the universe. Yeah, you know because yeah, it's like if if I'm uh, uh

A young lady who's worked my butt off and it's about feminists, you know, like women. We need the opportunity this and that um And then a fella comes along And he but you have lawyers on the left Who are now calling this they're they're on the left they they fight for a lot of you know They fought a lot a lot of liberal causes. I can't remember the woman's name But she's a champion of she's a left-wing lawyer and she's a champion of all these causes the social justice causes And she said she said this is misogyny

And I was like damn She said it's misogyny if it's a man and if it's a transgender person She was saying that that for men to come into women's sports now like this, but these aren't men Well, she was saying that that these are rooks biological men who are coming into female sports Because they identify that you know, they identify as women now She was saying, you know, you hear the women on the other side you hear feminists Now fighting that right so it's a fight man And I just sit back I just sit back and I'm like damn and then you got science put them at straw weight

Look, I say get them at a weight where? Is there a weight class you could get them at if you say specifically UFC? Is there a weight class you could get them at where it would be? Where it evens out a little bit Yeah, but the problem with that is that you've got a different bone structure And you've got like so so when you're talking about punching people in the face and speed and all that Yeah, and even even they even I think women and men have a different um read on on split second timing So, uh, women tend to hesitate

Even the the high champions hesitate just to split second Oh women will start bitching in an incident then then men do yeah, and so that's a huge advantage in striking So you've got so many issues. So when you're talking about women in fighting You're talking about transgender women in fighting And what stage are they at like what stage are they at in their transition? How much estrogen they have in relation to testosterone do they still have the different bone structure And the different muscularity that that gives a man much bigger finish I think they there should be then a separate league or something and I hate to separate it, but it's just it's

When you start catering to You have to cater to the masses first It's just I feel like it's where you have to it's the most people You know, it's like it's like the same when you get all these people to reconfigure their bathrooms and do all that It's like There's nobody transgender in this town, but you're gonna have a news Media come here and say these bathrooms are for men only well, you know It's only 11 people in town people are trying to piss. Yeah in some ways. That's the strength of this country though

Like in some ways the maybe and and I'm not trying to be old-sighted. I just think you have to Like yes, you welcome them in and you find a way to do it But it can't be immediate and that's sometimes that where I think the media fails us is they want it immediate They want it now and well, I think the better way to put it is that you you want to protect The marginalized and the minorities rights, right? Right not at the expense of other rights And that's the balancing act. So if if if you're if you're You're trumping other rights or you are discriminating against another group to make room for this new group of victims Or whoever you consider to be marginalized, right?

Now you're just now you're just moving money from one column to the other But you're not really actually making the world more equitable, right? You're you're actually So so so the idea would be if you have to have California if you're a public trade account of a company in california You had to have if you had a board of seven if you had a board of five Two had to be women if you had a board of seven Four had or three had to be women They just enforce that right so you have to have women on your board now. They want color now

It has to have diversity So if you are if you are the board if you represent the board you're on board of a company Which makes decisions for the company, okay? It's a public-traded company Yeah, you now have a diversity quota and you now have an this is enforced I don't know if they got the diversity quota through but they did with the female quota So the board cannot be all male no matter what so if you have so the idea is If you're really qualified for the job, but you happen to have balls You know and a dick

Or whatever or a certain chromosome you are excluded. You can't damn you got to take a back seat So now now you're discriminating against men for having For having that biology and now you have to have a conversation about biology And if you're gonna have if you're gonna enforce Biological women are allowed half must be on the boards. Well now what about What about gender fluid people? What about are you gonna represent trans people and that is why you relocate to another state where they're not That's what happens right because it's just don't know how to do business that way

Because if you have a business and you and you're you're responsible your shareholders you go Wait, I want the best people. I don't give a shit what they are. I want the best people on the on yeah Especially if it's a small family business now. You got your son cutting his penis off just so we can work at the shop You know what I'm saying like this is publicly traded Theo. You're going too crazy. Okay my bad, man But yeah, it's just like but it just feels like that is a small business owner You feel like well if my business ever grows I'm gonna have to fucking you know, you know Get you know, I'm gonna have to install a dick on my wife just to fucking make ends meet over here And but that paranoia in your head as a business person

You're like I'm gonna go to a place the government comes in and forces you to do that. That's that's mandated And and so now what you're doing is you're enforcing equality. Yeah, you're enforcing equality of outcome not equality of opportunity And what they're doing in Hollywood if you want your movie to be in in the Oscars now being Oscar Oh, yeah, you need to have an amoeba in there. You got to have Yeah, you have to have color in the cast but you have to have color behind the scenes too now But it's gotten which look I think it should all be I kind of believe it should all be based on just the percentages of the people that are in the country like You know, if the if a ethnicity is a certain percent then that percentage should be you be in trouble with that

Do you think oh my god, it's terrible idea terrible idea because Because then then then you then again all you're doing is looking at numbers and you You need the people that get jobs should be the ones who are the best for the job Right. I agree. That's what it is. If if if if most people are great for it Yeah, most people are great for the job are all black women then all black women should be in there Right. If it's all Asian and all Asian. I don't give a fuck. Whoever's best for the job, man Yeah, and have blind auditions the way they did so with with orchestras

They were all male. So they started just having blind auditions. So you couldn't see if it was a man or woman playing that instrument Yeah, you go behind a curtain and play and you just have to hear guess what women now represent even more than half of the Of the instrumentation in uh, I think the san francisco philharmonic in the new york philharmonic Oh, yeah, you see a lot of those harmonics a lot of ladies out there a lot of dimes out there playing the flute on the Liar do you play an instrument? Uh, what did I I'll play a little bit of piano. Oh, yeah. Yeah for real. I'm getting me a little I got me a little nice little place over there and um

At the moment in national I got a place in air b air b and b on keeping my place here, but I'm getting a nice piano Yeah, I'm gonna take you to be there. March 3rd. I'm doing another live podcast. You are another live podcast march 3rd A week at zany's. Yeah. Oh, wow. I know I forgot. Yeah I gotta start promoting it. I'll be there. We're me and steve burn. We got travis trick coming on We got jordan peterson coming back on. Oh, really? Oh, man, I love that guy pretty excited about this. Here's a beautiful lady right here or uh, or it could be a man I have your jordan peterson book too. You do awesome. Thank you. I love that book It's the he's had a new one coming out. Oh, I gotta read that. Yeah

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I mean, I'm not saying the west didn't have its share of all kinds of prejudice and all that But the west has done a really at least the west is the first country to talk about it and tackle it head on And and and respect the rights without killing Killing people. That's a good point. So so you know so so but but the west the idea the idea I'm saying we've implemented it very well, but much better than any other country the idea is you treat people as an individual Mm-hmm because because if you start categorizing people you'll never run out of categories I mean if you want to include men and women on the board and that's mandated. What about what about people under four feet tall? What about dwarves? What about dwarves? What about?

Um, what about people who have who are deaf? What where are we gonna stop? We need the death man. Where are we gonna stop this? What about the blind? You you you are going to what about trans are you are you going to have if you're gonna have to have Represent every category you would never run out of categories. Let them keep going man treat people as individuals You have a meritocracy. It's the only way at the level of detail to run a society You can't do it any other way. Yeah, and and when you and also I don't mind if you have a company And you don't even ask people up. I don't think you should ask people a sexual orientation or any of that because Obviously, well, obviously you don't want to get somebody a reason to discriminate. So don't make anything

Right. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like by not yeah, it's like everything has just become such a thing It's it starts to feel impossible to even communicate and the tough part is that You know, I say a lot of times that tech tech is the new fossil fuel, you know, it's like bandwidth is the new oil It's like we're all slaves. Yeah, and it's like we've and it's monopolies, man. They're oh, it's insane It's absolutely insane But I wish that someone would come out with an app and but the problem is they wouldn't be able to platform it now that would tell you which companies support which

What their beliefs are That way You could start to have dual company, you know come people that aren't is Yeah, you can start to have a competition where then it's going to be like, okay Yeah, I'm like I might have some of these beliefs but also some of these beliefs I want to support a company that has more beliefs like I have, you know um Well, but then I just feel like you

I don't know then it would start to affect the company's pocketbooks and then you wouldn't see so many companies I feel like be so outspoken. I'm I'm worried make their employees feel like they have to vote a certain way or this type of Yeah, like I worry about I wish there were more options for and there are becoming more and more options for Technology, yeah, there are there is technology that's that's coming out where you won't be as as reliant on all the massive Companies at least I'm hopeful. I don't think that's good for anyone But I am concerned and I am sympathetic to big tech's worry about misinformation malinformation and disinformation That's very dangerous But that's always been out there like oh you could always listen to an idiot

I know but say say you have a platform say you say your facebook, okay And and you you you have a technology that you've invented, okay? And everybody's on facebook and all of a sudden the government of a country Because it's worldwide the government of that country says They start planting stories on facebook that you know are categorically false That are demonizing a minority um political group

Because they might be the Uyghurs. They might be the Rohingya. They might be whatever in certain countries Yeah, and you go and you start talking about how how they they kill Children or they you do whatever to rouse up The majority in your country's ire to rouse up their anger And you just start planting fake stories And you get more and more people more and more outraged about CNN Whatever it might be and now you have now you have a Vigilante mob of 5000 that have all been talking on facebook

And they decide let's go kill These Rohingya, right these Uyghurs these uh These trans people these These republicans or these democrats over here or these liberals or these conservatives over here, right? History is full of that. I mean the czar In russia when the economy and shit was going bad. He would say you know what let's blame the jews Let's go. Hey. Hey. Hey all you guys. It's the jews that are doing this

So you'd have mobs of of men with bats and knives and they would come into the jewish pales the ghetto And fucking burn down the synagogue and kill as many people as they could and rape everybody and do all kinds of horrible things That was the story of the jew in russia forever and that's where the scientist movement was born The idea was if this is going to keep happening. We're going to keep getting killed. We need a homeland We need a homeland. We have nowhere to go because we're always a minority So so what i'm saying is that now with facebook? And with big tech if you're allowed to spread inform if you're really organized about it and you're allowed to spread information that is categorically false, but it's also

Galvanizing an enemy galvanizing people to actually take violent action, right like people that trade pokemon cards almost But what if they're doing it which apparently they were I think at the Rohingya I think at Burma or whatever Myanmar okay, so people were really doing this They were meeting on facebook groups and then for having beliefs and then going out and taking action Yes, so now so now you have someone like mark zuckerberg. What's zuckerberg and all of them supposed to do they're responsible They're looking at the moral responsibility. They're looking at the they're looking at all the responsibility looking at the financial I mean the the legal responsibility, but it's also just a moral thing But also problem because they don't know how to deal with that. I wouldn't know how to deal with that

How the fuck do you deal with that? So now you got to get really really kind of uh You've got to get really draconian about it now. You got to be like look if you guys are going to start talking about Uh masks that aren't not being effective or you're going to start talking about how vaccines are not effective Which by the way they are effective if you're going to start talking about that And you're going to start spreading all these like documentaries that don't have any basis in science I'm just using this as an example I guarantee I'll get a lot of shit just for saying that But but if you keep doing that

right, um They have to kind of go the science is saying this And you guys are saying this they have to take a stand right But then you're going to be stuck by by what that person's views of the world are and what they it's tough Like because what if they have a total their upbringing is totally They live from a complete different place and I think you have a lot of these people are all from the same spot the same type of tribe and the same type of you know, uh

There are a lot of the same just type of people. Well, so so I just did an interview with milk. Yeah I did an interview with alistair bostwick. It's on youtube now And he's he's uh, he was a reporter for huffington post for buzzfeed and now he works for verizon.com Which is he'd kind of like, you know, he's he's a really good journalist. He just did a crazy video on on woody allen And how one side of that piece was on on woody allen I mean, he's basically defending woody allen, but you know, it's a liberal guy But he said he was talking about how I said to him I said why is the press so left-wing and he goes because most of the people who are in the press are from

la and new york And chicago and the big cities and they just happen to be younger people tend to lean left It's not like a conspiracy. It's that they tend to be socially progressive And so what you're gonna get is you're gonna get more people in journalism who happen to be Of that the way he was describing it was really right. That makes sense kind of yeah So like you said, it's the same ilk if you have if you have one particular ilk and they're usually educated They're usually super educated from really good schools And they tend to come from socioeconomic backgrounds that are of higher class

Right, so they have a different but that perspective of the world growing up like like dude, some of my richest friends have been the absolute most Scared about this pandemic smartest friends have been the most scared about this pandemic that it's just ridiculous You know, like so I think there's a level there too where it's just so overkill and so out of touch with what like A regular working day-to-day man and woman couple that wants to have a traditional kind of lifestyle Yes, and then everything is this But then you have a lot of those types of people who are far left who end up being 40 year old women who are lonely who have no fucking children and who are trying to like, you know

Fly down a Barbados to jump start their wombs somehow on some Fabled machine or something, you know or wandering around their house and dying their hair fucking 75 colors and fucking sawing their tits off for magic or whatever like it just gets So then you have a lot. You have a lot of people who are just unspoken for and who feel unspoken for even just to ask questions And then that's where it gets really really spooky. Well, you know, you ever heard the expression weird So so because I'm not like some right-wing trumpet But also I'm a person who believes I should be able to talk about stuff and ask questions and not feel weird

If I want to first also say stuff and get something wrong I agree like how else do you even I agree be a comedian the whole But just so scary that you're even having to be careful Like we are both very careful right now on a podcast about what we're saying and how we're talking That never used to be I have to be careful because I don't know what I'm saying a lot of times too So my brain is very careful because it doesn't know what I'm talking about a lot of times But like you said, you're allowed to be you're allowed to get it wrong Right, but so now you have a you have a society people they feel like they're not allowed to get anything

At least to trial and error That's right. You have a ton of people that feel that way. Yeah, how does that feel to some? I mean, it's just that's debilitating That's debilitating to people. It is debilitating. It's awful It's awful. I mean, it's funny because when they did any experiment they ever did right? So if you think about like um anything, you know, frankenstein. Well, no any That would be one Frankenstein is a good example, but the man tried it on his brother. Look at louis van go look at Uh, do you know what you know what frankenstein symbolized the idea that machines were taking over

Machines were now taking over humanity. Wow. We're having the same talk a hundred years later about how machines are going to take over And and make man obsolete. That was something that That mary shelly who wrote that book was that was the thesis of that book like when man meshes with machine We'll lose our humanity. It's kind of fucking I mean, it's cyclical, but most this most of the studies on economics on social behavior on social We all talk about whatever it might be like, you know, when you say things like uh, well, most people, you know Most people tend to be more emotional about this. It was all done on what they call The acronym is weird western

um industrialized educated rich developed Uh people from those countries from westernized educated industrialized rich developed countries So most professors were doing their their fucking Experiments on people who are college educated or at least, you know, uh had had money Were from a developed country definitely like europe or america There was never any of it done on people who came from other parts of the world who didn't come from industrialized developed

educated backgrounds So so much about what we know is is has been skewed just by the nature of how Experimentation was done and who is available to do the experiments on You know what i'm saying? Yeah, it's like that. So we we keep running into these issues. I don't know we keep running into these issues Yeah, man. Look, it's it's spooky time to be a it's like is it spooky? It's a great time to be alive It's the only time that we get that we know of right now. I'm scared. It's also it's a it's a scary time um But there has to be there's always like

A way out of things. It's like I mean for example like You know, you can still if you shut yourself off to some of the media And you just let it go and do its thing you can still live a normal uh straight Life or gay life Whichever you want you don't have to get into the fights

You don't have to engage in it because some of it is out of my control. Yeah, but then also it's like every voice that was even like questioning or anything is Is been extremely silenced and that's not good, you know, I don't feel like that that kind of stuff is good No, that's the problem that the other argument like sam trippley and I always have these arguments on Oh, I've talked to sam. Oh, it's great But we we have this podcast conspiracies social club and I debunk conspiracies, right? He seems to win a lot But by the way, by the way, if you watch conspiracies social club, I think we may have to move over to rockfin Because they took us off

Vimeo really patreon didn't let us do Vimeo took you out because they don't allow any conspiracy talk even though I debunk it Vimeo should be lucky to have anybody on that. I know but they took us down because they have a strict policy Content and I'm like, I'm an anti-conspiracy system. I'm trying to bug it But you know, they're like no, you know, so I you know, I don't know what they're I don't know what the practice will it just become general and blanket which is crazy because that's the same thing that they that that like like kind of left leaning

things say that People are doing about gender and stuff But you're doing it in the term the term words that you used to terminate like anything that pops up Yeah, and I'm trying to in earnest debunk Conspiracies that breaks my heart and and you know, so we have to go that's why you got to get a Glock, dude You got to get your family and go be somewhere You know, and I think that's what a lot of people are a lot of people are saying this rat race Doesn't even accept me anymore

They not only that but they mistreat me On social platforms where I'm even just trying to be a regular person who airs and who is human And trying to be funny or just trying to be human. Yeah Like and it's just a lot of it is people who Never wanted to take any risks Just sitting somewhere Flowing into this they're gonna always exist though. It's the problem is corporations the money listens

Right the money, you know until consumers That's why you need to get an app that sends people to different places. They they can support companies that Also mimic some of their beliefs or at least are open to it Because then once it starts to affect the pocketbooks of companies, they'll quit the bullshit. How about due process? How about just that? How about so so so, you know, if if disney's gonna completely cancel gina carano for writing Bebop boop and just and having a clumsy comparison to the holocaust Which wasn't even that clumsy compared to a lot of people who were on the left who didn't get cancelled Yeah, you know if you're gonna do that then then until consumers say i'm not i'm not upping my subscription to disney

I'm not watching lucas films anymore Right until they do that and until disney sees that that when they cancel someone like gina carano Or they cancel anybody due to due process They get it actually hurts their dollar. It actually hurts their sales Because right now they just don't want to deal with any kind of twitter thing But it's so crazy who gives a fuck about it's just like they do because they don't want to deal with the backlash because those voices are So loud and like they'll go away in a week. Yeah, not Not when but it's just it creates too much bad press because what what does the press do the press needs clicks

The press everybody in the press talking to alistair boss. We're getting about this He's like it when you're a when you're a fucking journalist You want clicks you want to create sensation. You're right. You want it right? Right, right? It's yeah, right you you can't do if you're gonna do a documentary on mia ferro and woody allen You can't take a balanced approach. Nobody wants to see if they want you want a hit piece the way the michael jackson thing was You got it. You got to come up. You got to come hard from one angle, right? Because then then we're like yeah, we got a bad guy and a good guy Right. So this is and then this is Dustin Poirier. He taught me this man. He said

This is when that mike parry thing came up. Mike parry had done some things. He was kind of losing it losing it He was going through a tough moment like about eight months ago a year ago And I was talking to dust one time. He goes, you know, man, I don't click on that kind of stuff when people send me that kind of stuff I don't click on it because I don't want that in my world. He said I don't want that in my world I don't want to look at people that I care about or other humans in ways Where people are just Um Trying to pinpoint them into one little space or one little moment. Good for him. He just said it's not fair

And so Since most I've tried to stay off of like when people send that kind of shit. Don't send me that it But it's it's like this porn. We're we use it as porn. Yes. So as long as we keep doing that Yes, it's that's kind of stuff's gonna keep happening as long as you keep rewarding right cancel culture And you do it by clicks. We do that by clicks when you click on it. Yeah that thing you fucking saying I support this even if you don't That's right. That's what's crazy. So that's where the weird addiction comes in. It's like we're just But also like like the fact that disney makes amazing products and my kids love their movies And when a massive when a massive company like that, you know, cancel someone like Gina Carano and we still

You know, we're still patrons of that company in a way. We're all complicit And that's it. It's so hard to fight man. It's hard to fight because there's such tech is the new fossil fuel, man Yeah, that's the oil what happened with this this country singer who used the n-word He didn't really I think people kind of galvanized that people kind of go. This is too much or what happened? He's a I mean Morgan's a friend of mine. He was on a podcast. He was on a couple months ago He used it. He called his friend the n-word In the street. He came back and apologized. He said I'm gonna try to do better And you know, the media did what they did. They ripped him up

What got me about that? I mean, obviously like It's like he called his friend pussy ass Nigga right to a white dude and I think a lot of white people should be called the n-word I got called it a bunch growing up. I still get called it sometimes by this dude that lives in the park The black guy by me will call me at every now and then I like it a little I'll be honest. That's who I am Makes you feel included or something. Yeah, it does something right, you know, like Sometimes no joke. I was walking with a girl a couple weeks ago and he the guy said it

And I know she didn't hear him and I fucking said hey, say it louder, bro You know and he did and he said it louder, bro. He's a black guy. He can say it, right? He can like in a way you feel like he trusts you and he knows that you're not a prejudice white guy Right. He knows I'm not a spot in a way He's he's saying something. It's like a term of endearment for you like yeah It was like a coat I got to wear for a couple seconds gave me a little bit of clout with the dame, you know Or the man whatever she was. I don't know what she's chosen to be. I didn't I hadn't checked But um

Yeah, but what got me was that and this and and I'm Is that suddenly there were news articles that would never even watch morgan that that was the guy's name Yeah, they would never even And they're they're using it in their titling like the n-word the n-word So they're basically using the n-word to get you to go, of course So who's really using it one guy who uses it on the street calling his white friend the n-word or the white press That makes money by getting clicks. That's what burn and it's like

Man, it's all of them go. Oh, I can get this story now. I can use the n-word and now I can get we can get more online Subscriptions, there's money in clicks. Yeah, and as long as there's money in clicks and there's money in telling your readers your echo chamber Exactly what they want to hear and what they believe anyway and already Right, you you will you will continue to to polarize the press and now you look at anything that comes out of Huffing in post you're like, I know exactly how they feel. So why am I going to read this right or fox? Oh, here we go. But it's like um, here's a question But what else is that thinking I have one more thought on this

but it's just When they when I mean and he came out and said for himself, you know, he said, you know What do you want it to say on it? So it's like it's his thing but some I don't know sometimes you feel like it'd be It's just crazy how you can go and buy the on certain platforms. You can buy the n-word and listen to it You know

You can pay two dollars for it $1.99 for a song and go listen. Oh, yeah You know, it's like maybe don't make it available to white people Well, I think that this guy somehow got like he they tried to cancel him and I think his fans were like Now we're gonna buy all his stuff. Oh, he'll have the biggest tour in the world in a couple years. His music is just great Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, uh And he's a great kid I was at his house a couple nights before the video stuff and there were black guys over there with him

He has it's not like I'm sure I've seen racist people. Yeah, he's not a racist guy. He's not a racist guy Yeah, so and that's obvious to most human people with a brain. Yeah, but yeah, but the intention doesn't matter anymore It's just consequence. What's this question? I see a guy asking a question. Yeah, let's get out of this Sorry, uh, and I didn't really want to talk about that, but it's okay We're just we're covering a lot of bases right now. What's going on fellas? How you doing? I'm sitting here ripped off my gourd right now off some of those good Oregon Derby shares He ain't got a question for you You had to give each other three compliments that didn't have anything to do with comedy or a mullet. What would they be?

It's a hockey haircut. First of all That's good. That's a great question three compliments that had nothing to do with comedy or the mullet I would say this. Oh, you want to who goes first night? Uh, Brian, okay, go go one go every other fine. I'm your boss, but Brian I would say I would say I would say that you're um, I I think you have a very original brain And I love that about you. Okay, and I think I mean, I'm not allowed to talk about comedy

But it's it's it's very difficult to separate Your you see you have what's called original expression. You're just original. You're an original generally and that's so fucking rare and then I think you're Um, you're very loyal. You're a loyal fucking dude and you um also Have overcome something. I think most people don't even understand. I mean, I think what you've overcome Over your family your mother and all that. I don't think anybody realizes how huge that is

I don't and I think that's that always is going to be something that you're contending with But the wrestle, you know, it's that Jacob's ladder thing when he wrestled the angel the angel that you wrestle on a day-to-day basis is What makes and you're winning that you're winning whether you know it or not You win it every day and it's it it actually makes the world a better place So your trauma and I believe it's trauma. I really do I've I've watched your old stuff when you were young talking about your life and your childhood The trauma that you went through has not beaten you. It has made the world a better place That's why people love you and I don't think you would be who you are without the irony is you wouldn't be who you are without that

That almost impossible thing to deal with that that thing that would break most people And it you never let it you just turned it into something very special So that's my compliment. Those are my three comments for Theovon That's why I love you. Well, thank you, bro. I sweet of you to say man I don't know if you're gonna find three things on me. This is cashmere though. I don't know if I'm gonna I mean, you're such a good expressionist man. Um I would say for one I would say your uh

Your Ability to take a moment to give Valuable interaction Is something that is very rare Um, I've had a couple moments with you over the years that I can't remember even one of the first ones going back to uh at the Uh, bruco When you told me I was asking you something about comedy and You know, and you had a conversation with me just about learning as much as I could, you know

And just you know, if you'll learn as much as you can then you'll have so much so many Uh tools to be comedic from you know Um to even things now from growing up to recommending books Um You know just different things if i'm going through like yeah sharing stuff like different You know experiences from childhood trauma and one wanting to like discuss that and needing some support Um, you know, you actually like even if it takes a day or something for you to call back or to get back when you do You give a some time that's real

um That really feels uh valuable and important and so I don't want to say thank you for that man It's really sweet of you. Um, because when I hear you I hear somebody that It's like a voice that like a male voice that's educated that I never just and is like kind of educated but also good at injecting it into the flow of immediate life and so it's hard to do that. It's such a skill that so few people have

Um, so thank you. I'm lucky to be privileged to see some of that and to experience it firsthand Um outside of that I would say probably Symmetrical I would say symmetrical probably I would go with that and it doesn't have anything to do with hair. I would say symmetrical. Uh, Uh, I would say, um You're your vitality for life. I think you stay You're like a fucking vein. You know is what you are. You're like keep moving. Keep moving. Yeah, no matter what happens

Keep growing. Keep moving. You're you're a femoral. You're a fucking femoral vein, dude You're rolling through the big bone. You can't stop. You know what I'm saying? You ain't out here in a damn tarpaul You know what I'm saying Picasso said Picasso said I think he called the sweep in the alley like Picasso was like No matter what famine karate war all that keep painting keep painting keep painting. That's crazy So when he's 90 years old, he was painting on the level he was painting at when he was 40 for real I went to I went to his I meant to of a show that he had it was his work I think he did it when he was 90 and I would listen to the the you know art historian explain what he was doing I was like this motherfucker is 90 and he's he was painting on the level that's beyond

Like he was still doing it at the highest level That's crazy. I was like if that's the case if that's where the bar is man. I I'm fucked. I can never stop Yeah, but they're you know, it's hard. I just hope I'm allowed to you know You just keep hoping that you in one way or another can can continue to be Expressive and continue to do what you love. Yeah, like I never like I mean, I'm you know, it's not an idiot But I'm definitely I'll be you know, I'm I will mill around with idiots bro And I will definitely read books. I've read six or seven times dude and not know what happened that happened That's normal. Okay. Come on, man, but uh, what I'm saying is that

Fuck man. I forgot about it. But uh, it's it's uh, I was a vein. I was femoral. I was a few more Yeah, okay femoral vein. So that's two. I think those are two things. I think ephemeral artery Okay, vein. I think the difference is what an artery But an artery from the heart goes and arteries. Yeah, it's from the heart and it's um, yeah, yeah, you're not like that artery is more of like a A it's more of a super highway. Yeah, you're a little bit more of that service road. Am I yeah kind of like bumpy little bumpy Yeah, there's definitely some potholes. There's some potholes. There's some zoning issues. You can't be you can't be a smooth highway and be a comic No, you can't you gotta have you gotta have all you gotta have some plaque up in some left turns

Dead ends. You got some varicose shit. You got some backed up some backed up like coagulated blood There's some plavacid in the fuck. Yeah, I don't even know what plavacid is but you gotta have some shit You can't identify there's big pharma is fucking starting to play a role in this Plavacid in there. What the fuck is that? We don't know. We don't know but put on your mask because we gotta get through this shit right now Your grandparents are dying. Jim Brewer has this great bit now. He's like grandmother's dying It's like he's like an impersonating a Nazi. I love him I love yeah, you know as you get older. I'll tell you this I'm a lot older than you and you get less sure of Of uh any kind of a truth really in a way now. That's another thing I was gonna ask you how does aging happen

In your beliefs and in your thoughts like what starts to happen you you know, I I tend to become more um I tend to become more Compassionate for people who have a totally different point of view than I do right? Wow, so I'm I'm a white straight male Right fine. I'm not saying you have it easy if you're a white straight male. I'm not saying but I'm saying that if I was a black woman if I was uh, if I was A native american from or an indigenous person a first nation person from winnipeg if I was Uh from a small indian village in the south of india I would have a very different

Point of view that's true on the world On what's right on what's wrong on what's fair what's unfair on what I was afraid of what I wasn't afraid of If I was a black man For the most part even if I had money even if I was privileged with an education Yeah, if I drove by I know this if I was driving by two white cops Okay, maybe not now but certainly nine months ago, right I would have turned my music down. I would have put my glasses on I might have rolled my window down

Set my wallet on the dashboard. Whatever it is, right? Right, whatever it is a little bit like the way we talk now about anything that's That's considered politically incorrect We're now aware that big tech might shut us off right that was what it's like That's what it was like always so as I get older and I read more and I and I try to take that perspective of I don't know It tends to make me a little bit more compassionate and a little less attached to my cognitive Beliefs because I know how my brain works right from reading my brain works like this. I'm an emotional creature

So I have a set of beliefs That were given to me by people I love like my mother and my father like the culture I come from and media like what worked for me and media, right? So I have a set of beliefs like this and so what happens is when you have that set of beliefs You're going to try to find evidence to support your beliefs So if you start talking about socialism I'm automatically going to have an argument right because I'm a capitalist quote-unquote or I'm a free market guy Right. I'm a libertarian

But then I then I'll read a book and I realize that a lot of the basis of what I'm making all my philosophy on is Not necessarily grounded in evidence and that somebody over there Who has a different point of view has something to offer me has something to enlighten me on So this is a process. So what I guess what I'm saying is that as I get older I realize I'm a work in progress don't be too attached to Everything you believe. I love that. Don't don't be so sure that everything you know and believe is true Okay, that's really important and be willing to change your mind based on evidence And be able to see the evidence when it's in front of you. Well, right?

I agree with you man And I think a lot of and I've even noticed some own life over the past nine months over the past year I've gotten very a lot of people are very stuck to their what they're their beliefs because it's some of it's a safety mechanism Yeah, they feel attacked. They feel like they don't know the other side building weaponry over there, right? Yeah, right? So, yeah, it's like you start to feel um, and you feel like they're not doing that. So why do I have to you know, it's like It's interesting how like a lot of that flat has flared up over the past year Well, there's a documentary on netflix called crack And remember crack babies the idea of a crack baby. Okay. I know a guy that was all bullshit

That was all bullshit. There were no crack babies crack crack babies weren't born that way Most of the time it was a woman a woman who was doing drinking marijuana But it wasn't that crack itself was creating a whole generation of kids who are addicted to cocaine. That's not oh, yeah I never heard that I just heard like if they had a real skinny baby. He had jewelry on But yeah, but again, that's what I always heard again You can you can also add to that black baby. You can also add that black woman giving birth to black baby

Right. So what happened with the crack at them epidemics? I said your crack baby is born to a mother Who's addicted to the crack now? I promise you in every americans every white americans at the media and even movies like like boys in the hood the woman was Holding a baby And saying something like I'll do whatever it takes right on a crack, right? It was a black woman It was always demonizing a black woman. It's just true

So if you're a black woman in the hood try to make ends meet you can't afford to leave a battle zone And you're trying to raise your kids and there's a thousand other things you're dealing with and now that's going on in the media You're being demonized, right? You know so so because that was the narrative, right? And so you'd have a very different perspective on america Oh, I would have told you were if you were a black woman Especially living in the 80s night my generation my generation. How the fuck wouldn't you have a chip on your shoulder? Oh, dude. Yeah. Look, I think about that a lot of times. I think sometimes there's a

People don't realize like I've talked to before about like disney world Like you'd see the the advertising for disney world. There was always white kids at disney world So if you're a black kid and you're watching that, how would you not feel like? Oh, this isn't even for me You weren't represented in in cartoons Right anything. Well, but there's some stuff is that's that's not entirely true. Like some of my favorite shows were black Acted shows so like, you know, you had sanford and son you had in the heat of the night which had a black characters in it some of my favorite Um out the atives is one of my favorite characters ever from a from a drama, you know, they had a lot of

Uh, and what was the one? Um, and I'm just saying the one but there was a lot. There was the one with the cops There was cosby, which was huge That's huge. That did a lot. That was like, oh look, there's a black family. Just like a white family. There's a black doctor He's in my living room every day, you know, that was that that was that that was an important show in that sense But I could imagine yeah, but when I was growing up, there wasn't any black doctors in our town No, what I so this is where I get I get the I get where Black activists where white

You know activists to where woke people are coming from if you actually look at the history of this country Just go back 20 years 15 years. See, I don't I'm not liberal this way. I'm not like a woke person I do like fair play though I've always wanted fair if you show me where something's not fair. I'm right there. I'm like, I got it. I get it I get it. Oh man. I remember putting a jesse jackson sign out in front of our apartment growing up like I remember um I was a david dukakis fan like I really resonated with a lot of my say david duke Oh, I used to lift weights at david duke. Everybody knows that though. Did you yeah

You you work out david duke. Yeah, he shared a fence dude He used to date the hottest chick at the seafood restaurant. I worked at is that right god You you live near david duke. She was hot. Yeah still my folks still share a back fence not far from that's hilarious David they call him de duke around the neighborhood de duke is a beautiful little uh Pomeranian white I won't say that but yeah, that would make sense. Um, here we go. But yeah, there's just a lot to it, man There's a lot to it. But yeah to think that

I think the part that gets me a lot of times it's people it's it's people have now become like it's like People use the woke stuff for clout and it's not even about the argument anymore And then I also start to see I've always thought about like equality fairness I see a lot of like black supremacy Jewish supremacy. I see some people You know, um Indian supremacy I see a lot. I don't like privilege. I don't like supremacy Yeah, I don't like it any time when people start to get stuff into supremacy

Marcellus Wiley was at that guy's name. He had a great quote about it a while back. Um, That's the part where it starts to make me feel angry, bro I don't like any type of supremacy, bro. Like, um It just because then it's not about everybody. Well, you're assigning something called group guilt What you're doing is just saying that entire group is guilty And if you do that, we know how that works out in history too, right? Because when you when you assign guilt to an entire group just for their color Just for their gender just for their

Uh, so it's you you know, like background. Yeah. Now if you do that You just remember that you can that's a double-edged sword. You can turn that sword on the other group just as quickly If you do that to that group when you're done with that group, you're next, you know, and and so and and what happens is if you have group guilt Then you usually have to have a group that rectifies that guilt And one need only look at the world today forget history and see how that works out for People who are assigned group guilt. They're killed. They're jailed. They're put in concentration camps They're they're quote-unquote marginalized in the worst way possible. So let's all be careful about that ship

Yeah, that's why that's the problem with identity politics. That's why I'm very now one thing I'm not on the fence on is I am very against identity politics. I think it's fucking the worst I don't even know what it is It's the idea that you are you are you are essentially breaking people up into their groups And you are assigning guilt or you are assigning victim hood To varying degrees to different groups. I mean, that's that's what you do And those groups that have traditionally been in a position of quote-unquote supremacy Or in a position of privilege have to take now a backseat or whatever or or like give me an example

So I know what I'm well. Well the idea behind Identity politics would be, you know, we have even when you start talking about the black vote versus the Asian vote versus the white vote. You're already creating groups. You're already saying that you're already creating a monolith You're suggesting that black people think the same. Oh, that's what you're saying. It's hard not to do that versus it gets Right, but also when you start doing that when you start when you start saying we need a quota We need representation from this group because this group has been left out You're playing a form of identity politics because when you do that when you when you privilege one group over the other Or you start

Detracting just based on group Not based on skill based on biological attributes You have to have an enforcing mechanism You have to have someone at the top who has the power to make those decisions to enforce those decisions That is a that is a that is something you must do through force You must do at the end of the day At the barrel of a gun because that's what the state does if I say no

They say yes, if I really refuse to move you get dragged out by Officers of the law right they happen to have guns at the end of the day There's no way to do that without some form of coercion some form of force when you do that And you and you and you demonize one group Or you start to say this group is a victim and this group has to pay for that What happens is you're gonna push people you're gonna really push people into groups What you're gonna do is you're gonna create the the you're gonna America will become what a prison yard is What what what a what a state penitentiary becomes where you got the Aryan brotherhood over here

You got the southern mexicans. You got the northern mexicans. You got the black You got this whole thing over here and all of a sudden you create and now you're now now the only consideration Is color and you have people that are so obsessed with color It's like they should be in art school They should be in art school making studying oil painting. Yeah oil because that's the only criteria And so it's a very again. It's a very rudimentary very dangerous game to plan and I I'm not nearly as articulate about this No, it's helpful for me. It's great though because it's good because it's like Yeah, this is good practice because jordan peterson. It's like damn

It's like somebody just beach in the face with a fucking library. He's been talking about this, you know I did I did the first podcast with him. Really? Yeah, that's when rogan called text me and said Um, your podcast jordan peterson was great. He had he had just heard about him and I did you jordan peterson We're rogan together. No, I did the first podcast with him in our group. No rogan rogan then put him on Dang, that's crazy. Yeah How about that? Wow Yeah, man And it was so great

I love I've done three podcasts with him. I think so it's such an honor I love that guy. Yeah, I feel pretty excited. I'm trying to think of good questions like just to ask and just things that I'm like thinking about And also things that I'm scared about. Yeah, I'm gonna read the book But also just things that like I'm just worried about and Or just like just looking for sometimes guidance, you know Sometimes when you get someone that has more experience what I like to try to do sometimes is to get some guidance So how do we how do we stay away from identity politics and stuff like that? What can we do and how do we stay funny? What can we do to stay funny in a time like this?

You have to fight back. You have to um, you have to recognize first of all where identity politics came from You have to recognize You have to recognize what the other side that pushes that stuff is trying to do You have to have you have to have better ideas. You have to remember That what has worked for the most part with the west And what other countries have not done is that they treat people as individuals. Okay, you treat everyone as an individual You treat when someone comes in for a job whether they are trans whether they are black whether they are native american Whether they are a straight white guy

India I want to see what you can do. Let me let me try and it's very and what they'll tell you is there's unconscious bias Okay, so they say if you're white, you're unconsciously going to be biased towards someone who's white. Okay, fine I don't either but but but this is the new thing. So you have anti-bias training. Here's the problem with anti-bias training Here's the biggest problem So the idea is you have some expert who's taking some classes in the humanities And and you know and they come in and they apparently are the experts on how to teach you about your unconscious bias Okay, the idea then would be you take a class and now you don't have

Either you don't have unconscious bias or you're aware that you have unconscious bias. Okay, all good The problem is you'll never take unconscious bias out of a human being and by the way unconscious bias is very important And a very good thing most of the time. Yeah, some of the time. Why if somebody has shifty eyes and clammy hands I'm not fucking throwing you money or I'm not gonna hire you for the job because you're sketchy I can't explain why but you give my gut you give my gut my intuition Uh, the notion that you ain't no good. Yeah, and I need that because that's how I keep my money. That's how I keep safe That's how I keep my family safe. Yeah, well, that's how women keep from fucking keep state stay safe When they see a guy who's something something's over there. So my mother told me that one time

She goes, ah, there was a guy and the way he was standing. I knew he was he was looking to get jump I knew he was looking to rape me. Oh, yeah And so my mother was like she just she got a bad feeling and turned and walked the other way And blah blah blah. So so we need our unconscious. Yeah, you can't walk into a dark alley filled with people like bad wolves And just be like maybe they're good wolves, you know the guy at the at the at the meeting said maybe they're good wolves Give them a chance one of them is loading a gun and chiseling your name into the side of it This is where critical race theory comes in. This is this is all Comes out of the same idea that's not enough to be not racist. You have to be actually actively

tearing down the Institutions that have given us the longest standing democracy in the history of the world You got to start tearing down institutions. I grew like the nuclear family apparently is bad now Yeah, that's insane and that's what's causing a lot. I mean a lot of it is people don't have any faith anymore There's nothing there's nowhere to turn we could go into all of it Yeah, it's it's being talked about at least and even even a couple of knuckleheads like us are actually talking about Fuck this. Let's go back to I wanted to get into something funny. I fucked up. No, no, it's all good Could be funny. I don't know. Okay. Here's a guy right here and this guy might be black might be white

This dude might be joeva's witnesses. He's a composite man What up the oh brian bry guy the original kid callin Yeah, bry We just all want to know probably um, you spent a lot of time away. We all We personally missed you. I'm sure a lot of other people did too And I think we're just all really curious like what did you do during that time? Like

I uh happen like give us an update. I think we're all Really wanting to know how you spent that time And gang. Yeah, what have you been doing brian? Great question Starting to podcast steve burn big and hungry big and hungry. Yeah, which I was on yes, you were which is awesome drops every monday When's our episode coming out? Uh, I think I think this monday and it's fucking hilarious. Okay killed it cool. Cool. Cool. Thank you guys for having me on Yep, that's big and hungry anywhere you find podcasts Uh, I've been doing the conspiracy social club with sam trippley twice a week

And that's been interesting because now we might have to move over to another platform Rockfin because we too hot we too hot Too hot for vimeo, but that's good. Maybe some like rockfin starts up. I wish we would all start our own platform, but yeah You know and I just kept you know, I was dealing with a lot of shit So I just kept I worked out every day and I just did you yeah, and I just tried to become a better father And uh, you know, I was I was going through a divorce But that that ended very amicably because me and my x get along really well And we we uh, we raised the kids together and and we didn't need like uh, we didn't need courts and you know

That we needed we needed we did some lawyer stuff just because it's detailed But other than that we were we we did it great and I'm proud of that and I'm proud of her for that We we we ended it really really well and because the kids are our priority and then uh And then I don't know man. I just fucking like brushed up on my kung fu. Did you yeah, dude There's something about that staying physically active. How important uh Was that man? It's called communicating with your body That's what you do. So when you do a sport or you do anything you're communicating with your body

You you you know, it only gets harder as you get older. Oh, yeah, yeah But that's almost the point like embracing the suck You don't have to work out an hour. Do you can fucking live for 20 minutes and kill you? I worked out for 15 minutes yesterday. I'm sore as fuck. But but the way you do it is what matters But then you do a sport get good at something man. I always say this people if you're young get good I don't give a fuck if it's salsa dancing if you get really good at salsa dancing It will open up a whole world for you if you get really good at jujitsu if you get really good at the flute I don't give a fuck what it is if you get really good at anything that that requires like

Practice on a daily basis the answers lie there Yeah, and then you're gonna come in contact with other people who have gotten really good at things and you're going to Be introduced to so many more things then and some and you're gonna learn from the best It's just there is something it's so valuable about just having spent some time doing things Man, I've been trying to get into jujitsu more, you know, um, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm a white belt currently white belt white belt nation White belt nation dude also hard scarf club and um, I uh I'm looking to compete maybe at some point. That's great. I don't know if I'll compete this year

Yeah, but the hardest part people don't realize at my age I have to do yoga probably four times a week to stay in enough of a Comfortable physical space to then be able to go even to the jujitsu class So it's like there's so much that has to happen outside of the place Yeah, yeah, um, but I started eating liver, uh, liver crisps like liver jerky to Get my I mean, I'll fuck dude. I got a damn menstrual cycle in the back of my throat half the week dog I'm fucking ready to go son. Let's fucking go

Oh, I could spit in the air and a fucking wolf will show up and catch it. I'm ready to go So I've been trying to challenge myself a little bit more in that space And then yeah, some of that learning and jujitsu it takes like the anger that's inside of me It takes it out of my body to be trapped by another man or young woman And not have any fucking recourse except to scream into the fucking abyss as they're as they're imposing their will on you Of a fucking gym where people are laughing at me. You can't breathe. That's amazing. I look at theofan getting tapped It's so good for you. Look at him getting tapped by this bust girl from olivgaard Yeah, man, it's so good for you though shit like that where you're not I think that's the best thing you do if you're common

Oh, it's great You practice shit that you're not good at and you're having to like readjust your neural pathways and stuff It's like doing lsd, man. All of a sudden you're gonna be thinking about shit differently. Yeah, like you're just not comfortable Yeah, being comfortable comfort might be the wolf at the door comfort. Look we've said it on This this podcast before comfort will be your coffin, man. It really will and it's crazy to think that um You know and before we go. Yeah, like I was a little bit nervous about having yonder's because I know you kind of been through a lot over the past year

Has it been tough to like? Um, has it been what's it been like for you, man? Terrible. Has it been? Yeah, the worst. Yeah, because you can't fight back There's nothing you can do Just the way it is and like, you know, it's very interesting because you get ready for Whatever come what may in life, right? And then something comes along that you don't even know how to fight against how the fuck do you fight something like that? How do you do? How do how in the world do you? When you never in a million years thought something like that would happen in a million years because you've tried to live your life

The best, you know, right helping everybody and I don't know. I can just only I'm not I'm not spiritual enough But you got to just kind of figure out how to pivot but it's real and it's got lasting consequences And it's it's true destruction But the question is who are you in destruction? Who are you when chaos hits? Who are you when everything is taken from you that you've built over 30 years? and I don't know, but I'm finding out, you know, at least I'm tough at least I know who the fuck I am and and at and You know, that's the other thing I've talked to people who've been through this and one of one of a dear friend of mine said

The the good news is you know who you are and you know what you've done and you sure as fuck know what you haven't done And that's what's kept me going. That's why I keep moving. That's why I'm not quiet about things because I know who I am and Good person and I've done everything I can to try to make the world a better place and I'll keep doing that The biggest thing is not letting it take the funny away from you. That's a motherfucker My biggest accomplishment has been I I wrote a whole hour in this insanity and I was funny and I did a good fucking job And I'll keep doing that, you know, that's that's been And you know when you can suffer well suffer well

Suffer with dignity and suffer productively and criticize by creating Keep criticizing by creating. Don't criticize by complaining. Don't criticize by, you know Well, this person did that to me. That's always going to exist. I just got hit Okay, now what that's good for me to hear man because I do that sometimes I'll fall Especially in this past year and I think a lot of us have we've fallen into the complain and the fear and this The outburst and the speak but yet to be able to stay creative That's it man. Was there ever did has there ever been any like actual court case or anything that's followed up from the accusation? No, not at all. Okay. Not at all and

Because you're talking about an accusation that was is 21 years old, dude This is somebody I don't want to get into the details, but right somebody and I'm not trying to get you into it I just wanted to know this is somebody I I mean, it's Insane I don't know what happened and I'm not interested in speculating on that Um, but there was never like a there hasn't been like a court case. There's not like a no Because absolutely not right. Well, that's two things. There's one thing ready for this. I didn't do it right right

There's there's always that the good news is I didn't do it and that's that's and I mean, you know, I I'm always hesitant to say this but the number of Women and I put it in a drop box and I sent it to my lawyer and my my Policist the number of women that have been in my life over the past 25 years that reached out without me Doing anything one of a couple of them are high profile who've gone through this stuff with Harvey Weinstein Wow, the number of women that actually reached out to me and said I can't believe this is happening to you Was so heartening to me

I put them all all the texts these people I hadn't heard from for 10 years 15 years when you hear from that many people And you know and yet to hear so I put it all in I have it all saved. I have it all saved I have it all saved. It's pretty devastating. It's pretty cool To have that many people that you never even reached out to Reach out to you then you have some people you haven't talked to in 10 and 15 years and say hey, you're a good guy Like I can't believe this is happening to you in and I'll be a witness for you You know, that's like, you know, that's that's that's what I hold on to those kinds of things

But sometimes when somebody writes an article it never goes away They just you know your reputation in many ways is destroyed in certain circles circles or or it shuts off Your ability to do anything in certain facets, right? And so okay that happened And now what now what let's move forward. Yeah, but I'm never gonna shy from it I'm never shying from it and I'm never gonna hide and I'm never gonna put my head down Because I know who I am and I know the truth and that's and Jordan Peterson says in chaos All you can do is tell the truth Damn and you know, and that's what I said to my fucking the first thing I said to my lawyer and my publicist

I go I need to know that you guys know That I'm innocent. I don't want I'm not I don't want a hired gun I don't want anybody who doesn't believe fully that that this is you know, and so I provided them with the evidence But that's okay Well, I'm sorry for not being brave like just trying to be braver to be more supportive I think it's not your job that this is a very scary time So I'll stop you right there. This is a very scary time for everybody because if they can come for me

They can come for anybody. Well, I just wanted to be able to at least to be able to have a place where people can be heard whatever There to have a discussion or just to be To be heard about Like yeah, it just felt like you'd never had even had a chance to be heard in some way. No, you do. You're not You're not, you know, it's it's just it's it's we have built a world Where due process doesn't exist. We have built a world where like it or not and there's arguments on both sides where allegations Alone ruin everything allegations alone destroy your life

And that's a fact and and you know, I always I really wonder okay, man Well, it's it's it's not good for anyone. It's fucking Halloween man It's not for your brother not for your father not for your friend It ain't and and again, I always say this, you know If you want to build a world like that where there's no due process Where the court of public opinion can destroy your ability to feed your children You're next. Yeah, I always say that so, you know, oh, yeah I yeah, I just don't see how that ends. I don't see how that that ends. Well, um

Well, it just gives all the power to one side and that's an imbalance of power is never good So we're we're trying to figure it out We're all trying to figure it out. We appreciate you being here today, man and making me feel, you know, and just You know Talking to me about it and and also just talking about just whatever man, you know, I love I've always in I've always Felt like you've instilled power in me, man As really yeah, I really do well. I believe in you and you're worth it and I always tell you that when you get down on yourself You're fucking important. You're important to my friend you

This the shit you do it's so important to people You know why because they laugh and you know what happens when you laugh You know what happens when theovon makes people laugh. They forget they're human They forget they have to go to the bathroom. They forget they're broke. They forget they hate their job They forget that they are that their their girlfriends cheating on them. They forget that they were abused They forget it all because when you make people laugh people just they forget that for a second and it's and and they forget that they Have to even sleep. I appreciate you crying over because it's it's it's important that you hear that you are important Thanks, your job is important

Well, I appreciate you always making me feel important, bro. Yeah, man. And thank you guys man for just even let me start doing Podcasting man. Yeah, you were undeniable. How the fuck we how how we're gonna deny you You're just too undeniable and you put your fucking time in man How much how many years did you put in including your childhood that made you the comic that you are? Oh, yeah, if you include childhood dude a decent amount of years, dude the bed wet in the 30 Bro, if you include the fucking night shift of change them own sheets. That's why you wear those diapers. That's not sexy, bro Well, I remember at one point I would take a fucking like Tower sheet or something to wrap it around make this big diaper and stuff as many t-shirts is out in there

So when I pissed again, it would just absorb it and I could still just stay asleep. How long did you wet the bed for? Oh, he's a no joke 30 years old. Oh, is that right? Yeah, man. I just was just a traumatic sleeper I was just fighting fucking dragons People like you're gonna piss like yeah, I'm gonna fucking piss now. Dude. I'm fucking battling a fucking orca with long arms, bitch And it was comics are so special and unique. It's so interesting like comics like what what was the dark arts? Dude, I remember I used to wake up in the middle of the night because I remember hearing that Animals could get you at night animals could get you could get other animals if if they hadn't urinated in an area

And I would piss around my bed in a circle from my bed To keep the fucking animals away goddamn right it works, man Yeah, and there's nobody checking in with me to make sure everything's okay Nobody coming in my room and noticing that there's just soggy spots in the fucking floor It's a golden ring. It's a golden ring keeps snakes away roaches black widows all the way, bro. Yeah, man God, yeah, what a fucking battle vampires. I think piss keeps the vampires away If you're a righteous man, if you're a righteous man, you piss righteous Even vampires go this piss smells good

This piss smells like it comes out of a man who does good a man who hates himself It puts out good in the world and makes other people feel that they're they're okay. Makes them forget they're human Well, we keep doing our best, man. Yes, sir. We keep doing our fucking best. Yeah, man I'm glad to see you big and hungry. You guys can check it out, obviously And uh, one of the pioneers of podcasting right here. I'll be in Jacksonville, Florida comedy zone, um March 4 5 and 6 Zany's March 3rd for the live podcast. Um, I made man where we're through a vaughn will be uh down in Nashville. Yeah, maybe I'll pop through there. I love that if you came in damn it'd be good. And then we got um, I got Omaha, Nebraska

Uh, March 11 12 13 and then I got Huntsville, Alabama March 25 26 27 I think that those dates. Yeah, really stand up live. Have you done that? Uh, yeah, I've done it. It's great It's great. It's right. It's not far from Nashville. It's yeah, it's a good call. I like that green room It's right there All right kids. Thanks, man God bless. Now, I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it

in my bones But it's gonna take a little time For me to set that parking brake and let myself on one Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song. I will sing it just for you

And now I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my hands And these friends that I've been riding on they want something that they're damn they're gonna