This Past Weekend - E364 Jesse Ventura

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

Jesse Ventura is the former governor of Minnesota, professional wrestler and political commentator. Theo talks with Jesse about his time with the military, being a security guard for the Rolling Stones, conspiracy theories, and his time as the Minnesota governor. We shot this episode last minute on the road in Minnesota at a lovely hotel. Big thank you to the staff at AmericInn Lodge & Suites: https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/americinn/white-bear-lake-minnesota/americinn-lodge-and-suites-white-bear-lake-st-paul/overview  New Merch: http://theovonstore.com  New Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour Podcastville mugs and digital prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com Support our Sponsors: The Zebra: http://thezebra.com/THEO  Peloton: http://onepeloton.com  Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/theo  for 10% OFF your First Month Babbel: https://Babbel.com  use promo code THEO Upstart: https://upstart.com/Theo  for a fast and easy way to pay off debt Paint Your Life: http://paintyourlife.com text "WEEKEND" to 64-000 for 20% off Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com   Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to [e-mail]. Hit the Hotline [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastw... Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEK... Producer: Spencer Liautaud https://instagram.com/adventuresofspe... Producer: Colin Reiner https://instagram.com/colin_reiner    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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liquid death Today's guest Jeepers I You know, I've never had an interview where it was not a conversation really so I think it's you know and I'm saying this now because I it was hard to get a word in I am grateful for this man's time But I was happy when it ended This man is a former governor of, Minnesota

He is a unique man and he will tell you all about it I am very grateful for his time and I mean that and I learned a lot that I can do a better job as an interviewer I think for sure. I did learn that But he makes some really interesting points and he does talk about some things that I'm really excited to That I was grateful to get to speak for to hear him speak on I'm not trying to rinse the dude But I didn't get a chance to say anything so I felt like at the very least I deserve that I'm very happy to have today's guest mr. Jesse Ventura

Oh You ever see these ads on TV now we're where they got the big lawsuit against 3m Because the hearing devices for the military and combat apparently were defective I haven't seen them. Well, they got ads on TV all the time of these right. It's a class action Right, you see those lawsuits that if you're deaf and you served in the military blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and you had 3m made these things you stick in your ears. I guess that are supposed to save your hearing and what happened Well, no, and they didn't work function, right? So now there's a lawsuit on it, which is all fine and dandy But I sit back and go well G

What about us Vietnam guys that nobody gave us nothing for our ears? We're all deaf today Yeah, and in our part in in my and what it tells me is this How different the combat was in the Middle East than Vietnam? Because in Vietnam you couldn't wear earplugs. You relied on your ears. Wow, you're in the jungle You got to listen you got to hear you you hear a twig snap It could be your life. Yes. Yeah, and you have to hear it, right, you know But in this urban fighting apparently you can put in earplugs and blast each other because you're in the city, right? For more or the desert. So it's just interesting how like through that as time. I mean, where's our compensation, right?

I'm deaf. Yeah, I can I sat and shut stoner machine guns and all this shit blue things up Yeah, you can't even listen to Pearl Jam. Enjoyably, you know, where yeah, well, no, but there's better than Pearl Jam No, I found a new young rock band that has given me my youth again What is that? It's a group. I don't know if you guys know I'm Greta van fleet. Oh, yeah. Oh my god Yeah, I I was a huge lead zeppelin fan Mm-hmm and Bonham died and the riff between plant and page. They're never gonna get together They're never gonna play again and my heart ached Because I thought I'm gonna go to my grave and never hear any more lead zeppelin. Yeah, they're gone

Yeah, my son comes over the other day. He says hey dad He said you like zapped in you. I said hell. Yeah, I saw him in 72 and 75 And he said listen to this and he put on a song and I sat listening to it and I looked at him I said what a Jimmy Page release shit from the archives. I've never heard this zeppelin song before Wow that much he goes They're not let that isn't led zeppelin. I go what? And he said that's a dog a band called Greta van fleet out of Michigan. Wow, then he pulls up on His phone an interview with Robert plant and Robert plant talks about him Talks about the Greta van fleet and Robert plant laughing Lee goes

Somewhere I've heard that voice before And he goes I'm jealous. Wow cuz he said they're young and I'm not yeah Well youth becomes that great. I think this guy He's not quite totally Robert plant cuz he's a little rough on the edges with the little getty Lee throwed in from rush Yeah, yeah, I can see he's got a little I'm not a feminine side But a little bit more of that the plant had that yeah, yeah, I'm very much at a feminine side to his voice He'd sing those slow bluesy songs drive my wife crazy. Yeah And to me I don't care what anybody says the best zeppelin album is the first yeah

Is that when you went and saw him was around that time? Oh, no, I saw him in 72 Third the fourth had already been out because they did stairway that night. Where'd you go see him? San Diego, who'd you go with you remember guys in the Navy? Yeah, I was in the Navy I was back for my first tour to Vietnam. Wow, and now we went saw zeppelin and In fact, are we running? Oh We're on you hear us. Okay. Yeah, okay. Oh, no, that's fine. Then we're on and rolling then let's talk We'll talk rock and roll. Oh, yeah, let's talk about it. No, I'm just curious. Yeah No, we're we're where I was that weekend. That was the toughest rock and roll weekend of my life was Led Zeppelin. I

Was it was 72 so I was about 21. I guess 21 years old maybe 20 and Zeppelin was Friday night and Led Zepp played with no warm-up band They would come out at 8 o'clock and they would finish at 11 15 3 hours and 15 minutes of Led Zeppelin And the only break they ever took was during Moby Dick when John Bonham would do about a 15 minute drum solo Then the other three would walk off drink their water Whatever they were gonna do have a cigarette or whatever they were gonna do and then come back out and at the end of Bonham's drum solo and then they'd finish up. Well, I saw Zeppelin on Friday night

Which was rugged and We had to come back Saturday and then face Jethro tall Because that was the weekend Zeppelin Friday Jethro tall Saturday and were you guys partying before like where people partying pretty hard Well, no, no, no in those days Open seating Yeah, people standing wherever. Oh, no. Oh geez. I used to bodyguard the bands when there was still open seating Craziness that open seating ended in Cleveland. I think or somewhere At a who concert where the people trampled the death three or four people died

Wow, and that's when the authorities came in like they always will as soon as people are dying They're gonna come in and say wait a minute. You're having fun, but people are dying Yeah, so no and then they then they put on you that you had to have tickets just to be on the main floor And they started having security to where but in the early days. Oh, you just packed in when I did the stones here Yeah, right They got the boards the hockey boards We would line up in the pit before the stone and you know stones come out We're the security down in the pit down there and they would tell us over the walkie-talkies. Okay

We're opening the doors You would literally feel the ground start shaking Wow like running of the bulls and A slow roar would start and then you'd look up and the doors it open and these guys would be running and literally diving Down the stairs to get to the floor to be first in the front row And you feel like you're playing defense at that point No, no, you got the barricades up right they can only come up to the barricade the hockey boards Wow, you know, but they're they pack in there so tight

This is before they had when they had open seating so tight That you'd see during a concert people raising their arms up down front waving them just to breathe. Oh, no, no, no They can't bring them down. Wow Oh, they raised them up to get space and air and then the wedge wedges them in so much They can't bring their arms down So they have to stand the rest of the show with their arms in the air or setting them on somebody else's shoulders Or whatever I had a I had a little girl and I was in peak wrestling because I had had some knee surgery and I was at the prime of my wrestling when I was doing this and

And So I I had a I was 265 pounds You know, I was it could deadlift well in the 600 You could deadlift a family, you know, I mean I was I was a bruiser. You could deadlift a skinny family 265 pounds and Had a little girl down front that wanted to get out She couldn't take it no more and what we do to people like that we'd pull them out and then shuttle them down line

They didn't get kicked out. We just let them in the back. Okay. Now the people have caused trouble different story Yeah, but like this young girl. She was she was crying claustrophobic couldn't take it no more I had to stand on the boards get under her armpits now I could deadlift over 600 pounds. It was like pulling a cork out of a bottle Because of the compression. I had everything I could do. I broke into a sweat Wow, and finally I got her out and we got her down and she thanked me and we sent her down the line Then on the flip side, I had some bozo start punching somebody

And his back was to me and he had long hair I got up on the boards got a hold of his hair Wounded into my hands and removed him by the hair Damn, you can imagine what that felt like. Well, he hits the deck He jumps up gonna fight me and I just looked at him and I said think again And he opened his hands up and backed up and I said Get the f out of here and we shut and he went out the door. Yeah, you know, he didn't get let back in He went out the back door. Do you I got to I got to introduce the stones

Did you really? Yeah, because one night during this it was 78 or 81 Because you're 81 you're a bouncer. You're basically security security, but you're also wrestling at this point Oh, yeah, but you're wrestling professionally. You're wrestling like, okay, so people know who you are too sometimes Oh, yeah, gave me stuff to brag about on tv. Yeah, you know gave me stuff for interviews, man Oh, I bet I they came out Levy was the promoter and he comes up to me and I think it was 81 And he says to me we don't got no one to introduce the stones. He goes you want to do it Said hell, yeah, I'll do it

So but here's what's good. They tell you exactly what you're to say and you can't vary from it You walk out under the spotlight The whole 19,000 people or whatever at st. Paul's Civic Center And you simply walk up to the mic and you go ladies and gentlemen The world's greatest rock and roll band the Rolling Stones and you walk off Damn, does it feel pretty honorable? I did get a good payback because that night at the end of the show as they left the stage Ronnie Wood looked at me and said hey, Jesse, how'd we do? Yeah, I said good. Would he good? As you, um

I gotta tell you all sorts of rock and roll stories. Really? Oh, yeah from I one time I got a signed jagger where I just followed Mick around so you're just doing security for him Yeah, no no at I did security the bands that would come to minnesota. Okay. I didn't travel with them We would get them here. Okay, and then we would provide security and ensure they got once they were in the building We had them and we ensured they got in their limos, right? Then they're on their own So we know our other wrestler other rep. No, you just this is a friend of mine Yeah, I knew I had had some knee surgery and you said hey you want to make 25 bucks a night and hear the best rock and roll in town And I loved rock and roll and you got the best seat in the house and they pay you 25 bucks or 50 bucks

I forget what it was you got paid for doing it. I said sure I'll do it So I just go over there and you just sit down in the pit and I stood springsteen foreigner Marshall Tucker grateful dead Damn did all of them all the greats from that air the grateful deads easiest. Is it really? Oh, they're so good the dead heads Yeah, they all know each other they traveled There's a group of fans that traveled to every dead concert. Oh, yeah, they're all doing grilled cheeses and they're dead heads Yeah, and they they talked to each other bob. We missed you in Omaha. Well, I couldn't make Omaha, but I'll see a nice land Say, yeah, okay. They all know each other. They don't even rush the stage. Yeah, the dead heads just dance around in the aisles

They're like hippies You know and the dead goes off on their tangents because no dead songs ever the same You know they they take in any direction. Oh, yeah, they get real whimsical. Oh, yeah And so that was the grateful dead. They were the easiest really off. We left the front. Yeah These guys they they all know the grateful dead. They're like friends Yeah, it's like playing a concert in front of your friends You know So, uh, I bet if you're one of if you're one of them, you're just seeing the same people every night

I mean, oh, they change a little bit like bob couldn't make Omaha, you know But I think I was on lsd just because I would see the same people in the crowd every night. I was like damn Maybe they thought that too. I don't know. This is the groundhog. I did all the bands back then and and uh It was a great experience. Was there a point that you quit? What did work just get too busy? Oh, no No, no, no, I went back wrestling. You went back wrestling. Oh, yeah. No, no. No, that's right You can't you ain't gonna survive doing what I was doing, right? Not in the lifestyle. I preferred to live. Yeah, that was just busy work and fun You know and and and it paid off later because here's the story later

On 1998 I became the governor of Minnesota. Yeah, I took office in 1999 and uh 1999 was the Rolling Stones no security tour What it was called. Yeah, they came to Minnesota in February of 1999. I'm the governor now And so as governor and here's what I did. I had never did a governor's proclamation You know where the governor proclaimed something. Yeah So being the outlaw I am and the governor of belonging to neither political party Yeah, which gave me great freedom in many ways

My first thing as governor. I declared it the day that the stones played here and the no security tour in 99 I declared it Rolling Stones Day in Minnesota Now it went to the Secretary of State because they have to sign off on it too, right? And I won't say names, but we had this kind of tight-ass republican woman Mm-hmm. Yeah from you know, do I need to say more? No, we can easily find out you can you can figure it out right? She wasn't gonna sign it. Oh I picked up my phone in the governor's office. I called her office. I said

Whatever her name was I was his first name. I said Sign the proclamation Don't make me come down there I set the phone down the proclamation was back in about five minutes Dude, that's awesome. She signed off. I said give me a break. Yeah, what do we do? And while the great payoff came that night because that night I was there to When the stones were and they had been greeted at the airport by the press and they asked

Mick Jagger, how do you feel the governor declared it Rolling Stones Day in Minnesota and Mick said we were very honored. He said no one's ever did that for us before Wow, you know, we've never come to a state and had the state They declared it our day. Yeah So they were very honored. Did they remember you that do you did security? Well, that's coming up. Okay, so uh We come there that night and I get my picture taken with them and up comes my favorite stone Keith Richards and so Keith comes up to me that night and his hair is all of a typical Keith Richards

They had banned on he's got this hanging off here of the hair and that hanging off the hair of the hair And he looks up at me in typical Keith Richards style and he goes So you used to bodyguard us back in 78 and 81, huh? You know somebody told him that I'm sure and I go yep And he goes and now you're the governor And I go yep And in the great Keith Richards cockney accent, I'll remember it the rest of my life He looks at me and goes

Fucking great I'll never forget it Fucking great You know and just smiled at me and I thought well if you get a effing great from Keith Richards You've done something right. There's how I view it. Do you feel do you? Oh, I agree. I mean, do you feel that? Uh, so stuff like that that's kind of feels like do you feel like that's coincidence? Do you feel like there's a I find it interesting when you're you were able to live life long enough How things intertwine a lot and how amazingly something comes back like a helicopter you launched 20 years ago

Comes in lands on your palm like a butterfly now like boomerang. Yes. That's a perfect analogy Do you think that there's any god in that or you just think that that's just nature? That's the way I believe I believe like like Neil deGrasse Tyson says It's chaos. Yeah He said there's no one in control of space Yeah, Neil said everything is flying around out there. There ain't nothing in control of nothing It's chaos and I my belief in life is this Having I didn't plan to be governor

I didn't sit back when I was 18 20 years old and say, you know, I'm gonna take political science someday I'm gonna run for governor be mayor first. I'm gonna be a mayor first then I'm gonna be governor I didn't plan nothing like that. I didn't even plan to wrestle. Yeah Yeah, things just fell into place and I I lived by a premise that I think I've I've mentioned it A quote from the great yogi bearer the baseball player. I don't know how familiar we are with yogi But yogi used to say some great one-liners and yogi's one great one-liner was if you come to a Y in the road, take it Keep going. No think you come to a Y in the road. Take it Well, that means you got to pick one way or the other. That's what he's telling you right

So I've come to Y's in the road and I've taken them and once I've picked out which of the Y I'm going on I don't look back right and I and I conquer Whatever that Y is taken me to then when I achieve that I look for the next Y in the road Wow, and then I do that because I've had so many jobs now. Oh, yeah, it's back. I I I sit back and look at it go how You know, I guess It when you look I get bored after about four years really? Mm-hmm, and then I need the Y in the road

Yeah, I need to go out and because I mean I where do you think that comes from just not to interrupt you I just you know, I'm curious like it's a certain wanderlust that I think you're born with Is it do you think you inherit it? You know, I've read two books on Che Guevara, right? And one book was written by a South American. So you got a real good View of Che it wasn't written by a United States person with Great bias, right, you know, you got it from a South American which is argentinas where Che was from and Che had it

Che couldn't stay somewhere. I mean he had he had it made in Cuba, right? He was like God in Cuba Yeah, and he was Hanser murder in Fidel. Well, and they put him up. He's he's there. I've been to Cuba. Yeah, same He's on he's on that building. Oh, they're libraries their libraries start with books on Che and fill There's no history before them. They had Che. They were stay. Did he they were heroes. She didn't stay. Did he kind of heroes? No, no He needed something else It's almost like that. He couldn't stay. It's like Brad Pitt in that movie. He couldn't stay and that's me There's a times come on certain jobs. I do where I can't stay no more. Yeah

That I gotta I gotta go on I gotta move. I gotta get go keep going Maybe maybe I'm giving up the day that I say, okay, this is it Right. I'm not this is I'm on the final y in the road But I ain't there yet. I don't think I'm 70 now. Wow, but uh, that's why I moved to Mexico 15 years ago Oh, I didn't even know that. Oh, yeah, I've been living in Mexico for 15 years every winter I live an hour from pavement and an hour from electricity And does that mean do you feel like it's been beneficial off the grid? Wow I who do you take with you down there? I take my pickup truck my wife and my dog

And was there a reason you guys chose down that area was there? No. Yeah, just kind of works out Uh, like my life a y came in the road. Yeah took it. No, what happened on that deal was I had just come out of office and I needed a break of being governor And I just inked a huge contract with msnbc Right. Mm-hmm. You notice I was never on I was gonna say I've never seen any clips of this Yeah, no because I was never on the reason we'll get back But I'll cover this because I've covered it before and I like people to know by the way I'm gonna do a shameless plug here on your thing. Please do. I'm I'm now on clubhouse. Okay

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And I got paid a lot of money Why because I opposed the invasion of iraq. They wouldn't put me on television really nobody was allowed on tv Who opposed the invasion of iraq? I'll give you the example msnbc at that when I got out of office Fox msnbc and cnn gotten a bidding war for me. I was the voice of the independent A hundred percent voice of the independent don't belong to either party. Yeah msnbc won I signed a three-year contract with them And I'll just state this it was a contract that a professional sports athlete would get wow not not 100 million Yeah, but it was healthy. Yeah, it was

Very nice I'll say that and so I signed a three-year contract with them And we insisted that they were going to do my show in minnesota Because I number one. I didn't want to leave here. Of course now make it easy on yourself So you were living and I had the power at that time So I said no I want to do the show in minnesota and here's who I sold them on because All you people do is cover the coasts. Yeah, nobody gets a midwestern perspective of nothing And we're the heart of america. Amen

We're the heart of america. Amen. You know, so uh, they agreed So go over to channel two here in the twin cities I provided 30 jobs or something because they had to hire all these people to work on the show So I provide all these jobs after I get out right and one of the jobs was to my head of communication when I was governor He now stayed with me and was working on the show with me Okay, so did you go to one day of work at all? No, wait. Okay, so so so so You're easy. I'm gonna ask you. They send a producer out. Okay from the base msnbc So he's producing the show. We're getting all set to go on the air live audience now

We're gonna have a live audience because I play better. Yeah in front of Live, you know, and it's everything's ready to go and all of a sudden we get a phone call Here's the phone call. Oh, let me add msnbc had just hired filled on a hue. Oh the king of daytime He was now on at night. He was their highest rated show Phil likewise opposed the invasion of iraq. Yeah and said it publicly So had I we get a phone call John might subordinate that took the call. I didn't get the he got the call. Here's the call um

This is so is it true governor ventura doesn't support the invasion of iraq John oh, no, he's vehemently opposed to it. He's a vietnam veteran. He said this is vietnam all over again This is crap. This is nation building is they didn't attack us iraq didn't attack us on 9 11 Yeah, why are we invading iraq? Yeah a lot of you know and and so then the next question Does connecticut know about this? Well, here's the tie in msnbc stood for microsoft nbc At that time. Okay. It was a partnership between microsoft and nbc. Oh who owned nbc at that time General electric. Oh really general electric is one of the biggest war profiteers in the world

Damn, they are they are the military industrial complex and part of it because they have all those contracts with them Wow, everything is built by ge to go to war. Yeah a lot of it Right. Oh, I'll probably have a god. Do they want one of their announcers on tv opposing a war? Not a chance Damn, exactly. So that was that does connecticut know about this was the second question We respond or john responded. I don't know So pause Here's the big question. Is there any chance he changed his mind? Wow

John said, I don't think so. He said i've seen the governor change his mind where because he wasn't educated on something well enough And when he got educated he took a different viewpoint, right? But he said this is war He's a veteran. He's opposed to it. He's a vietnam veteran. You ain't gonna change his mind. Guess what? I didn't go on the air and guess what philbania you got pulled Damn They pulled both of us. Have you ever heard of a network pulling their highest rated show? No, never But they did because they wanted no negative to invading iraq on the mainstream media So that's how powerful those tie-ins are between like these companies and the corporations and the mainstream media and the government

and the government so do you feel sometimes it used to feel like One thing is tougher as i've learned more as i as i get older and just learn more Sometimes it almost you're gonna find out you're gonna learn even more Sometimes i don't want to how old are you? I'm 40 years old man. Oh, you got a lot of learning left You're just beginning to learn I just begin but i feel like all you've done is crack the door open a little But do you ever think sometimes that it's this almost a A more blissful value and not like they say knowledge is power and sometimes it just almost hurts me sometimes the more

I learn stuff sometimes it feels it makes me feel debilitated sometimes But you have to know you can't live a life in my opinion. You can't live a life without truth I finish every show I do I always say and always remember people when the government lies the truth becomes a trader They'll think of that quote that's an original for me. I'm thinking about it right now the government lies The truth becomes a trader in other words. They'll take the truth and put the truth in jail and make it the enemy Wow, and they'll make the truth the enemy you see it all the time right now Well, I feel like we're that's never seen more prevalent than right now, right? Yeah, do you feel like um and yet I will back there is good government right don't think for a moment

That I'm I'm not a Trumpy I want you to know that right now You know, I don't even want to get into my feelings on him. Yeah, and there's an ex-military man Right. There's a lot of impact there with that to me. January 6th was an attempted coup d'etat Really? Absolutely. Look at the what they're learning now. Yeah, they had the format all laid out Oh, yeah, don't we seem like one of his shady contractors could help set it up Hillary Clinton locker up. Yeah, there's the guy that belongs in jail, right? Donald Trump He tried to overthrow our country. He defied the constitution

Do you know I live by the constitution, right? That's the document I live by if you don't like it change it But you got to have a set of rules. Yeah, those are the rules He broke them. Yeah, he broke the rules. Yeah, he should never be allowed to run again Yeah, and in far as I'm concerned he belongs in jail Because people died that day right on an insurrection to overturn our government, right? It's that simple and I don't care how these republicans want to butter the bread You're talking to the independent here and you know what part angered me the most What is it when I saw a confederate flag carried through my capital? Yeah

Yeah, which does that make you feel you know what I call the republicans now the Taliban They're the American Taliban, baby And that's coming from Jesse the body the American Taliban. Well, look what they're doing in texas. Yeah What oh Worse women's rights. Yeah, the Taliban have got them down there. You know, they're taking away people's right to vote Did you know it's easier to buy a gun in texas than vote? Yeah, that's insane That's insane. Do you want the definition of insanity? There's a good one right there And now this latest thing. What was the latest thing that crazy governor? Oh, he's now over the governor is now overruling

Mask mandates. Yeah, in other words, no one in texas can make you wear a mask Okay, what about this thing just let me ask you this. Do you feel like and by the way, I love the mask Right, you know why I wrote an op-ed piece. It gave me freedom. Yeah, I can go in the store now Nobody bothers me and if I keep my mouth shut Nobody does and I don't have to talk to people that I probably didn't want to talk to anyway You see in little jesse the body's coming out. Oh, that's good, man. I'm a villain Look, I'm ready to get body slammed. You know, you know why the villains coming out. I got people criticizing me now Seeing I've sold out because I got vaccinated

What a crock of crap I sold out because I want to live and I look at the statistics and when 99 of the vaccine people live And only 1 die. I'm going on the 99 side people But do you wonder but jesse, why do you think do you want is it able? Are you able to like have an idea of why some people think I feel like the news made things very confusing The news started becoming like not information and a lot of people got extremely scared and didn't know who to believe anymore Well, here you go. You want the answer to the news? Yeah, jesse has it. Yeah, I'd like a you know I wouldn't mind a dose of it, man

Because that's where I feel like a lot of bad information started the downfall of the news came with the show 60 minutes Now you guys are all going to sit no, I'll I How could you 60 minutes? That's an award-winning investigative reporting show, which it is and it's a great show Yeah, I love it was a great show still is probably a great show But 60 minutes was the downfall of the american media. Why is that when they started editorializing it? Uh-uh, uh-uh Prior to 60 minutes all the news lost money

And then they made up for it in the entertainment division and that was a standard rule The news is to educate the news is to do this the news. Don't make money. It's to inform Along came the show 60 minutes. It shot the number one Yeah in the ratings the bean counter's eyes got big and they went you mean we can make money off the news Yeah, that's what 60 minutes caused Making profit off the news Then it became about ratings rather than informing Now the news is nothing but entertainment, right?

So now it's there to get ratings points. It's there to make money for advertisers Yeah, we're in the days of Walter Cronkite back when I was younger than you The news lost money. You want the show That was so ahead of its time the movie that it's scary today for me to watch it Watch the show network. Yeah with fade done away William Holden. I've seen that it's good and Peter Finch won the academy award for playing Howard Beal Because he just got so real and that's and it changed everything. No, that's where it became entertainment. Remember? They brought fade done away in from entertainment. Yes to get the ratings. He was the new producer

And this was done before it ever happened to the news. Yeah, they call up to her desk and see she's like no let him go Let him go. They knew 60 minutes had changed it. Yeah So that movie whoever wrote the script or whatever You have some shut that off was was looking into the future and had their thumb right on the button Wow, because that's what our media or our news has turned into the movie network So then it's all about ratings points now guys. It ain't about making you smarter or giving you information It's about tiddly. Look at right now. Oh, what's the big news out there right now another missing white girl? Yeah Now if that girl was black, you think they'd be all that front page

Stories every night if it was a black black little hiking really though, but maybe probably not maybe not You know, maybe not black girls disappear every day. Yeah, and you don't see though Where they ice every all people disappear every day probably but why is it that they pick out Right, there's this little damsel in distress. Yeah. Yeah, the cute little and don't get me wrong. It's a tragedy. It's horrifying Whatever happened to her don't get me wrong on there. No, totally. I feel the media the media's coverage of it It's okay when I was going to do the show for msmbc Everything comes down from on high. Yeah, they tell you what they're like Hannity and these guys They get told what to talk about. Oh, totally. Yeah, you know, I thought them

You know what they sent me every day. Lacey Peterson. What and I said That's a tragedy, but there's 10,000 murders a year. Why is this one exceptional? And why should people in minnesota or in the east coast care about a murder that took place out in california? Yeah, yes, we feel sad. Lacey was murdered Like I feel sad that anybody else gets murdered But why would I on a national tv show? So give five minutes of the show's time covering a murder that affects That when you have 10,000 of them a year, yeah

so But it's okay with that said that's where I feel like Where do people go to get good information and that becomes the scary part? That's how things a lot of things become fragmented Remember when larry king died? Oh, yeah. Now larry king was an icon. I got to go on a show one time man. Pretty cool. Oh, yeah larry king an icon I did a show a number of times. I feel fortunate larry king talked to everyone. Yeah Well, they did all these tributes to larry, right? Which they should well deserved But they left out the last five years of larry's life

They stopped the tributes when he left cnn Do you know where he went to oan, right? No, he went to where I work russian television america Oh, really rt america larry king was there four or five years. It was a break. No aura was a podcast owned by larry I worked for him. Oh, I did a podcast called off the grid on aura where I did it from mexico Oh, wow I come into town once a week and they put me up at the hotel I'd play two rounds of golf and I'd do it aura and go back to my house. It was great So they were supporting him whenever he went and did his own thing larry worked for rt russian television

My aura thing I had a problem with them in negotiations russian tv came in and said we'll take you So I went with rt america where larry was for five years larry king worked at rt america That is russian television america and you know what he said He said this is the most honest news people are going to get And this came from the icon larry king who our mainstream media didn't want that quote out there So they didn't cover the last five years of larry's life They made larry retire after cnn larry wasn't retired larry was on every week like I am on rt america And before I signed with rt. They flew me and my wife to Moscow

I went yes. I went to their 10th anniversary of rt No, I met gorbachev that night and uh, putin was the keynote speaker Wow, and at the end of the night Vladimir putin the president of russia walked over to me. I didn't walk over to him He walked over to me. Did you stand up where you were chair? Absolutely. He's the president. I stood up He offered his hand. I shook his hand putin looked at me and said thank you governor And I said you're welcome mr. President and then he said I want you to know I I will I will never interfere in your television show you have complete control and complete artistic freedom

And I said thank you mr. President. I appreciate that and guess what I've been there four years now And he's been a man of his word. Have you he has never interfered in my show? Nobody tells me what I can say or can't say they don't tell me what I can or can't talk about Now, isn't it strange? I'm banned from tv in america I'm banned and that's because of my court case. They all came into my court case to have it overturned Oh, when you um chris kyle mess. Oh, yeah the lie about me. Yeah, chris kyle lie Yeah, I remember what people don't know at the at the at two judges at the court of appeals broke two of their own rules and sided with the media and overturned my case

Breaking their rules to do it. So how do we defeat and and and and in doing so Where can I go to work? Yeah, these people interfered. I was you know, they interfered in my court case So I have I can so I work for rt now and it's they're the best. Do you know what they did for me? I start and they were sending me to a studio, right? Mm-hmm and misha my boss he goes, uh, you know, that's expensive and it's really out of the way for you He's a russian. Mm-hmm. He said do you have room in your house? I said sure. I said I got a bedroom down in my basement. I kind of call it my trophy room. I keep all my trophy paraphernalia down there in the corner of the house

Nobody can see it unless I take them down there. He said could we put a studio in there? Wow? I said sure All of a sudden amazon boxes start arriving at my house Technicians come they took out all the permits. They wire me up The cameras the lights I now do my show for my basement. That's awesome I'm in minneapolis They're in dc and my partner's in la and they have the capability now That we can do a complete show and never even be in the same city with each other That's something it's a nice analogy. Well, it's amazing

And so that's how I do my show. I walk downstairs And uh, and I'm happy to say my son is home now. He worked for rt for still working for them And he came home and uh, he now uses my studio to stay working with rt And he's back home, which makes his mom and me very happy You're always happy when the the son comes back even when he's 41 or 42 now Is that your only child? No, I have a daughter. Oh, yeah, she lives here. Oh, she does. Yeah, she's married and lives here But my son's more of the He's more of his dad really traveling her. Oh, yeah, he hasn't lived here for 20 years

He graduated from high school and left. Wow. He was a shawn penn's assistant. Oh really? He had that wander thing in him, huh? Oh, yeah, and he went what shawn penn. I remember the time he called me says, hey dad I said, yeah, he says guess where I'm going tonight. I said where he says Uh, he's over at I'm at the con film festival. We're having a party with the victoria secret models And I said to him over the phone. I said, well, you ought to enjoy yourself Oh, I used to masturbate to their magazines man. Remember that magazine came in the mail? Those are the good old days. Oh, yeah. Well, he calls me said. Oh, yeah, we're going to a party tonight with the victoria secret models That ought to be fun. Yeah

He my son left at 20. Yeah, you know, and he took he was shawn penn's assistant for a while And that he lived and worked in la for 10 years and then an opportunity opened up for him at rt american He was on the ground floor He got into rt when they were a few rooms on a floor now. They're two complete floors of a building On dc does it feel is it strange that that it's a russian company and that they're making out Well, they're technically not they're an american company, right? I'm just wondering is there any like what you know what? I they I have to do I have to because I work for them. Well, you hear this bullshit Because I work for them. I they I'm I have to file as a foreign agent

Oh, really? Yeah Now they don't make people on el jazeera do that They don't make people on Any of these the bbc don't have to do that. So the irs is making you do that No, the government of the government's not the irs irs is nothing to do with it Okay, it's the government. We have to file with the department of justice because it's russian now. I take offense to that. Yeah I'm born and raised here. I'm a united states citizen. I've been a mayor. I've been a governor I'm an honorably discharged vietnam veteran and I have paid taxes to this country my entire adult life

Unlike donald trump. Yeah, I pay my taxes. Yeah, I participate. I don't cheat So having said that I'm now considered a foreign agent right damn Does that kind of stuff make at the start of the show it says how our show has to be It's cleared by the department of justice. It has to go to them. Is it really? Yeah Yeah, well, they ain't done nothing. I mean, I say what I want to say But I'm sure I'm on some list and I'm sure I'm under observation You know from these bozos And yet I stand up for them. Yeah against the insurrection

Does it make you feel like I used to feel like when I was younger and stuff when I was a kid that there was How long have we gone? We're having fun here. How long? Oh, so we have 15 to go then. Wow That's about the time I'll run out of voice man. Okay, no worries Um, I used to feel like as a kid like there was this american dream There was this red white and blue thing and we're all part of this group like and sometimes I feel like I don't feel that way anymore sometimes and it's not like I don't know if it's a choice I'm making not to feel that way. You know what made me change

way back when I when During vietnam when I saw the draft It was the draft because the rich kids didn't have to go Yeah, donald trump got bought his way out of it Yeah, he was gonna get drafted and his dad went and paid off and he got bone spurs Really? He's never missed around the golf. He probably got him in his penis. I bet bone spurs in his feet Yeah, I've never seen him miss around the golf Could you imagine though with a weapon bone spurs would be painful? How the hell could he play golf?

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no They're all as bad the Dems and repubs eyesight with Ralph nader Yeah, who called it correctly when he said we're under the rule of a two-party dictatorship Yeah, and the reason I say that is because you notice there's no problem passing the defense bill, right? Boy, they all jump on board for that, don't they because they're all making money on it No argument about that. How about the latest? Did you hear the latest? We're 31 of them. They passed a law in 2012 They are not allowed to trade stocks on the stock market and invest, right? 31 of them just got caught for insider trading. You know what the biggest penalty they're going to face?

A 200 dollar fine. Yeah After they probably made hundreds of thousands on the stock market. They'll pay a 200 dollar fine Now it seems to me Charlie Sheen went to jail in wall street for that Yeah, remember Oliver's movie Oliver stones movie wall street. Oh, yes. I remember it Charlie Sheen went to jail for insider trading for you know, and then he got a lighter sentence because he turned gecko over to him Yeah, you know Gordon gecko so he cooperated But that is against the law and the point is all 37 of these people should be made to resign right now Yeah, and I'll tell you why because it is so basic that when you get elected

You do not make decisions and do not to profit yourself, right? And when you're doing insider trading trading that nobody else knows about but you That's cheating and that's illegal and people go to prison for it and 37 of our illustrious elected officials You notice how these guys go in there? They're not millionaires many of them, but they all come out millionaires Yeah, well those jobs don't pay that much. I'll tell you this that's the reason I didn't one of the major reasons I didn't seek a second term as governor You know how much money I was making probably 2000 a week How much 25 no, I'll tell you exactly okay

The governor got paid 120,000 a year Okay, it's about a week now. They're gonna take taxes out, right? Okay Well, I also get deducted mileage for the official governor's car Unless during the workday So to and from the capital I have to pay for it till I get to the capital So wait so I went to them and said well

Okay, I'll drive my private car to the capital and then I'll get in the governor's car and I won't get docked money Public safety comes into catch 22. You can't do that Why well that's the car with all the protection and the radios and all this So they make you ride in the car and then charge you for it. Oh damn and it don't end there the governor's residence Every meal that me and my family ate there was deducted from my paycheck I had to turn in weekly things on how many meals were served to me and my family at the governor's residence unless it was official State business so that would get deducted

It ended up you're okay. Get ready now. I'm in charge of a 16 billion dollar budget right I I was clearing at best 60 grand a year now Jesse Ventura has a lifestyle That if I'm making 60 grand a year I'm sinking. Yeah

I'm not even treading water right. I'm sinking. Yeah You know and that was one of the major and I wouldn't corrupt I suppose I could have been corrupt and who knows what I might have made and what kind of job I would have gotten After I got out because you know, they always seemed to land on their feet with some real great paying job Oh, yeah, nobody can't you know the the greatest thing I got getting out of office the thing I hold in the highest esteem I got to be a fellowship professor at Harvard 2004 and how did that work? How does that come to they sent me a letter? Oh, yeah And they said how would you like to teach in the John F. Kennedy?

School of government at Harvard University at us and I turned to my wife. I said is this for frickin real? I said, I only went to high school. I went in the Navy They're asking me to come and teach at Harvard. They need teachers. I think everywhere. No. No. No. No. No. This is 2000 Oh, yeah, they didn't know teachers. This is Harvard. They don't need teachers at Harvard shortage there You know and and so I I took it for the whole year. They they paid me a stipend. I got paid every month They moved me into an apartment on the business school right on campus And I would walk across the Charles river every morning to an office. I had

I learned how to do the computer there and I actually sent an email and then as soon as I left Harvard I forgot the computer and haven't sent an email since You know Harvard taught me that and I quickly forgot it Do you know I've never owned a cell phone really? And I've made it my life's mission now. I do I will not own one I will do everything in my power not to get one. Wow I want to be able to put on my gravestone. He never owned a cell phone And I figure if I last 10 more years

You got it. I may be the only person on the planet that can write that damn Although I am running into some people that say they're grandparents Are holding out. Yeah, they're holding out. So I got to outlive them. You also started Yeah, that's my key now. I got outlived the the elder least But no, I never hit man people have said to me. Well, how could you be governor? Simple and it was even better I had two bodyguards 24 7 they had them. Yeah, so they screen calls Anybody wants to talk to me they call them

That edit that edit they cover Governor so-and-so is calling Oh Tell them I'll call them back at five that I'm busy right now, but I will get back to him I'm sorry. The governor is not available right now But he is aware of your situation and said he'll get back to you at five o'clock today. Okay. Very good. Thank you That way you got a built-in. Yeah call screener if you got your own cell phone It's the worst. You ain't got a call screen. You don't have a life anymore either. I gotta ask you this. Well, you know, it's interesting

I've gone. I've said that to people and people have looked at me and they've actually looked at me Sincerely and replied you're lucky. Wow. Oh, yeah, I often think to myself Why are they saying that to me? Why are they telling me I'm lucky? Not to have a cell phone and I think it's because It's it's beginning to dominate people's lives. Oh, yeah to where they have nothing else but the cell phone. Yeah Boy, I'd hate that existence. I went out the serious radio once and you know, they put you in the green room Oh, yeah, I've been I always hated the New York. Do you like the green room? I hate it You know why I don't like it that much. No, you know, I hate the green room

Why because that's what they call the room at San Quentin where they put you to death. Oh, really? It's called the green room Oh, damn. It's where they go before they pump you full of electricity. Oh, yeah old days Well, anyway, I'm at the green room at serious, right? There's probably a dozen people there Every one of them is staring at their cell phone, but me And I'm looking around the room and I finally thought screw this Ah, so I fucking did what I needed to do to command the room And I looked at him said if any of you noticed in this room that I'm the only person here not looking at a cell phone And they all look around at each other sheepishly

Yeah And I just kind of shake my head. I just wanted to bring it to their attention It's a freedom that I was the only person in this room of a dozen people who wasn't staring Yeah, or doing manipulating something On you know, oh, yeah, and thank god we sent captain Kirk up to space now Because now it's timely everybody's got the communicators right that they add on star trek Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the only thing you can't do now is send yourself places, but I'm sure that's come Oh, that's gonna be scary. That's gonna be real scary. You know, I interviewed him captain Kirk. Oh, yeah, and he passed away

Didn't he? No, he just went to space. Oh, thank god No, no, no, he just went up William Shatner just went into space. Oh, yeah. Yeah, William Shatner dude. I forget about that. I always think of uh I knew him from rescue 911 He's captain james t. Kirk of the starship enterprise. Mr. Spock is dead Yeah, you know, but captain Kirk of the we grew up to that in the 60s That was the coolest show on tv was star trek James t. Kirk my wife had a crush on him when she was a young girl. She told me

She said I was in love with and I you know in captain Kirk James t. Kirk others and no, I thought and it was kind of interesting because I saw a huge scientist interviewed And they asked him how he felt about William Shatner being going into space like that He looked and smiled and he said something really cool. He goes William Shatner didn't go into space. He said James t. Kirk went into space. Oh, that's cool A certain part of him I just thought that was so cool that this scientist said William Shatner didn't go into space. James t. Kirk went into space

Yeah, I like that a little bit of the mystique keeping it alive. Yeah, he went into space It's hard to keep mystique alive when you watch star trek. You know that man's been to space. Yeah And he came do you hear his message? Uh-uh take care of our planet. Wow, he came back So he said and you know what I've heard everybody that goes up there comes back A total greenie. Hmm. Stop the destruction of our planet because they're seeing out there Nothing but drab dead And they look back on this blue thing That shines

with life When you're out there, there ain't no life Or at least we ain't found it yet. Yeah, you know and there is but we ain't found it yet. Yeah, you know But they said when you look of course Read neil's book lately Oh, I look I'm just saying from just a layman's turn the universe is so large. Yeah. Oh, do you know what else is? I don't know what else is be here's what ticks me off now You got this whole thing in schools where they don't want to teach the truth. Yeah

They don't want to teach the truth now. They want to gloss it over so the white people can feel good. Yeah, right? It's ridiculous. Do you know what I learned now too? We hear okay for years we celebrate columbus day He discovered america And I dinged myself in the head and go it took me how long to realize How can you discover something if there's already somebody there? Right? You didn't discover nothing There was already people there

But why did we used to have it that way then it was just an easy way to explain it It's all we know it's because there was they didn't have a flag Oh Gotta have a flag bad. You gotta buy as Eddie is it'll tell you that you know Watch Eddie Eddie. You'll explain it. You gotta have a flag But no you're getting back to it again. You you know, what were we going on getting old now? Um, we're talking about uh I know we're talking about a lot of different things. I want to lay at the last thing

I wanted to make the poll uh the the space is there people out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay You you look at the situation now and I read the other people out there Oh, I know columbus. So not only did columbus not discover america. You know what else was total bs We got taught. What was it that he that he went there believing the earth was flat Oh, that's a lie. That's a complete lie Neil shows where they knew centuries before columbus that the world wasn't flat Damn, bro, but yet in all our school books. That's what we read Oh columbus discovered america and they sent him to find out because they were terrified

He was going to fall off the end of the earth. It was flat Oh, I remember our teacher even made a thing where he went up the side and then turned onto the corner get neil's book He lays it right out when we knew the world wasn't flat and it happened And literally probably 800 years before columbus even sailed They knew that that scholars knew the earth was not flat. Yeah I think so why when we taught that bullshit? Okay, that's a good question. That's what I want to know To make it you know what angered me Here's what's got me in a roar about this and why i'm saying you teach it

It took me 69 years to learn that we massacred black people in tulsa. Yeah What guess I learned that last year I was 69 years old when I learned that right that is the first I have known of that in 69 years On this planet Yeah, I got angry Why wasn't I taught about that in school right? Right Why is that not written in a well? Here's one for you. Did you know there was a coup d'etat

Tempt on president roosevelt By wall street I believe it because it's been eradicated raced Set aside major general smedley butler saved our country. Damn the two-time congressional medal of honor winner He was handpicked chosen to be the president Damn you don't go but you know what smedley did smedley went in front of congress and ratted him. He whistle blew him Smedley said fdr. Is my president. I'm a republican. He's a democrat He's a two-time congressional medal of honor marine general smedley goes

He's still my president Even though i'm in a different party. This is treason right and he turned these guys over all the Rothschild all these names Oh, yeah names on wall. That's great. They had handpicked smedley betler. Why because fdr Was bringing in these socialist programs. What does wall street fear anything the socialist? And we here in the u.s. Fear everything socialist, don't we Yet here's one for you guys time to learn from jesse Our biggest part of our budget that you and I pay taxes on is for total socialism Like you know what that is. Uh-huh the department of defense. Yeah, they that's total socialism

At its finest So you have socialism protecting the capitalism Damn, it's the dark arts and yet people are telling it. I'm scared. They're turning the country socialist right well Is she what you need if you have all capitalism you're gonna fail. We saw that on wall street I think we're still seeing it now Cheat you have to have a balance Yeah, you have to achieve a balance between capitalism and socialism that raises the most people up right That's when you have a great society

So all these people that fear socialism you're very military. I was a navy seal. Guess what other than S combat pay and special pay for things I did my base pay For being a navy seal was the same as the base pay of a cook Wow I don't get paid no more if he's the same rank as me Doesn't matter that I'm on seal team and he's over frying hamburgers Now I did make extra money because they give us hazardous duty pay for jump But get this you only get two of the three

I was qualified for all three hazardous duties. You only get two or three. They only let you have two And guess what officers get paid twice as much now. Tell me that ain't socialism Why does an officer get paid twice as much as me jumps out of the same plane? Yeah You know, but he does no I would get $55 extra a month for jumping and I'd get $55 extra a month for demolition pay I got paid nothing for diving and diving supposed to be an extra 85 a month But they only allow us to get two of the three. That's why I don't know they make us do all three You know, but one of them I have to do for good old uncle sam. That's on the house

That's that's a charity one. I get to all the diving I do under the water. That was for charity Yeah, I got uh, I got a couple questions that these are things that I think people need to hear and hearing from you I think are very important. All right Um, you talk a lot about how like the two-party system how it's one of the things that's definitely failing us And you've been an example of being an independent, right? Yeah, what don't people understand about even just voting for an independent Whether you even almost believe in them or not. What can that do to change the current system that we have like well really? Truthfully, it's simplicity. I think in voting And if everyone would just stick to the simplicity of it

vote your conscience Don't pick a winner Your job when you vote isn't to go there to vote for the who you think is going to win Your job in voting is to go there and pick out the candidate whom you think would best represent your point of view Yeah, and vote for that person if that person gets beat You did still did your civic duty You voted now if you vote for someone else you're selling out Yeah, if you vote the two-party like if you find some third person

Who thinks way more like you and has better ideas that you go with but yet you still vote Well, he can't win. Well, one thing I proved is yeah, if you get the most votes you can win. Yeah And it just takes getting the most votes right It was like when I ran they told me this is back in 98. They told me Forget the young people. They don't vote Huh, I told them book me at every college in the state of minnesota And they said you're wasting your time that the guys with the I said no, I ain't and I'll tell you why They said why I said because the college kids have never had Jesse the body to vote for

Yeah, are you kidding me? So they booked me in all the colleges. I'd go there packed to the hilt Kids hanging off the rafters. You know when I knew I was going to win and they were your age because you're talking 20 years ago So this is your generation Uh, here's when I knew I was going to win that day We got there the morning of the election and at the university of minnesota They said the lines to register were longer than the lines to vote because in minnesota. We have same-day registration nice And the lines to register were longer than the lines to vote That's when I knew we're gonna win because they ain't coming out to vote for a democrat or republican

They're already registered. These are new people and It ended up I won by I was polling 10 percent Mm-hmm. It was a not a presidential. So they predicted a 50 voter turnout non presidential Which is pathetic, right? But it still leads the nation minnesota does every year. Really? Oh, yeah us in main We battle it out for the most percentage to vote Well, people come people here come out and vote. Yeah Yeah, and uh and what happened was They predicted a 50 voter turnout because it wasn't presidential. So a lot of people stay home

It ended up 60. I was polling 27 percent the day before I ended up winning with 37 because remember there's three people now So the percentages change. I had 37 the republican had 34 the dem ended up with 28 But my 27 to 37 that was the 10 percent they didn't expect to show up Yeah, because they predicted a 50 voter turnout turned out it was 60 And though and those 10 came voting for me. Well, I'll never forget the headline in the minneapolis paper Ventura wins sub headline underneath Remember I told you about the colleges

throngs of young voters turn out throngs that was the term they used it's like you slide in the ring with a chair Well, it was like I went out and see as a getting back to your original question third party That's what They all that's what you've got to tap into right beat them, right? You're not going to beat their bases, right? You've got to get and but most people are independent We're be you know what angers me right now the most of anything

Our country is being governed and stopped from doing anything by those 50 people in the senate the 50 republicans, right? I don't know well then they got to do that Shit they call where you need 60 votes or whatever. What do you mean? You don't know you better start knowing I'm trying to Anyway, there's okay 50 republicans block everything, right? Okay. Here's what pisses me off Because there's an equal amount of senators to in each state. Yeah, do you know those 50 republicans? How much of the population they actually represent and they're stopping the rest of the country? They represent 21 percent of the population because you have states like north and south dakota that have the same senate two people as california

as new york So they have equal to them they can stop them. That's insane Now it was initially. I know why it was done. So it was equality amongst the 13 original states, right? But when california has a huge population and new york has a huge population, how can they be equal? to south dakota But then do you worry that by the way? I see more south dakota license plates in mexico than I see in south dakota You know why that is

Because south dakota don't give a shit if you live there or not you can just license your car there So all these people from california that are supposed to bring them back for emission tests because they still have them there You'd have to drive the whole bahá to do that every year. Well, they leave them down there and they just register them in south dakota Wow So you see south dakota plates all over the bahá like I said, there's more south dakotans in the bahá than there is in south dakota What um, you also you talk a lot about south dakota just wants the money They don't give a crap where you live. They'll license you and that's great fine. No problem for me Yeah, a lot of places have different little loopholes like that. Sure. It's the way to make money

um What about um, you talk a lot you I've heard you speak about uh, About tax at the point of purchase, you know, which I've long been a proponent. Yes That that's the way we should do it It would keep all these loopholes and all this bullshit Everybody would pay their tax and you'd live within your means right because every explain that to people who don't understand What it is when I really got into it. It was I think representative army from texas dick army Was his name. He brought I learned it. He brought it. I learned it when he brought it up

A national sales tax is like a state sales tax. What it would do You could throw away all the records you have to keep for seven years of income You wouldn't have to keep them. You would never be audited again All of that would be gone The tax at that time would have been 12 percent Well, that would then keep our government on budget with the economy They'd have to ensure the economy stays good. Otherwise, they don't get their money. Do they right? But when they have an income tax, they get their money whether the economy is good or not

Ah, see this way they would be directly correlated with the economy Now it would be then maybe it'd be a little more now, but 12 percent's a lot less than I'm paying now. Yeah So you would pay that at the point of purchase now Businesses are already doing that So you as an individual would never have to keep a tax return again You'd never have to file one less stress everything you do would be done at the point of purchase buying right now your car would call And it would make you more conscious of living in your means

Because you'd have you'd see a price on the car that you go. Holy shit. It would be a lot of money Holy shit, it it's up 12 percent because I have to pay a 12 percent sales tax to the federal government Yeah, well guess who else would pay that? tourists everybody Right now tourists don't pay federal tax here, right? They would if you had a national sales tax during your stay there paying it and bought something and there'd be a federal Sales tax on everything and get this you wouldn't have to put it on food Right, and you wouldn't have to put it on clothing say under a hundred bucks

Now if you buy a mink stole or by Dripping with diamonds. Yeah, you're gonna pay right but you could buy your underwear your blue jeans and your t-shirts You ain't gonna walk around naked and you wouldn't have to pay tax and I notice all of us are dressed that way today So we wouldn't have to pay no tax on none of the clothes any of us are wearing I love that man. How far is that ever a possibility? They'll never do it Yeah, they'll never do it because the rich people don't pay anyway. They pay lawyers instead So they don't have to pay and and uh

Okay, then here's the other thing people said to me. Okay What would you do with irs then? They'd be gone, right? No, you turn their job around Instead of the irs watching us the people you make them watch the businesses and the government to ensure they're They're collecting and using our taxes correctly Yeah, they be the irs then becomes our watch dog. Yeah of the government and business God, we need that. Yes Why do you think it won't pass because it's good? It's common sense. It makes sense

And if I can quote charles manson No sense makes sense. Yeah, that's a quote from charles mans. Is it really? Yeah. Yeah, dude He said that one time. No sense misunderstood a little bit No sense. Think about it. No sense makes sense. That's how they operate. Yeah, no sense makes sense. Yeah You know, but no a national sales tax. You couldn't cheat on it. Yeah, because you'd have everything you bought and sold would have to require Right, whatever the tax would be right then roughly. Let's just say 15 percent. Let's go high 15 percent. Well, I'm paying way more than 15 percent right now. Right. So at least yeah, I love to pay nothing 15 percent

Yeah Now and then they said, oh, it'll hurt poor people worse because it's regressive Yes, but you know, you can do with it what you want. You could find out say What a person's at in poverty, right? So a person in poverty say if they're income, they don't make that much money You could give them their first 20 thousand dollars of purchases. No tax Right, give them a credit card, right that but anything beyond that if they start living beyond their means Then they get taxed. Yeah, but you you could see the thing

You can make it anything you want it and you can give breaks where you feel you need it to help poor people Right, you know, you could give them their first 12,000 in purchase. No tax. Yeah, you know, if you're under 25,000 in income Yeah, you know, we'll give you your first half if you spend half of your money Yeah, we help you out. We don't you don't have to pay tax on nothing Oh, yeah, you know, you get you can survive But then the big people that buy yachts and buy Mercedes hit them all that Hit them up. Yeah thick boy shoes or whatever they're buying. Yeah Yeah, you're buying all that fancy crap. Well, you pay for it

You know, if that's your lifestyle. Well, then live your lifestyle. Enjoy it. Yeah, and it would force people to live within their budgets Yeah Force them to they couldn't buy something. They'd have to say Jesus I'm gonna have to make more money to go if I want this. Yeah, you know, I can't afford this I love that man. I feel like it's called the national sales tax. Yeah, and you abolish the income tax Do any countries do it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know but you think how nice so I carry I've got I've gone. I was cleaning out shit. I've got crap that goes back 25 years in my attic papers Shredding it and I have to sit and spend entire afternoon shredding documents. I feel like I'm in Watergate. Oh, yeah

It's like nothing with Nixon Documents Fargo kind of yeah They were just ridiculous on that. So yeah, the national sales tax. I've advocated for that since 1990 No, people need to know. I just I think a lot of people don't even know that it's a possibility Well, it ain't a possibility because they're not gonna do it Right, you know, you you would have to vote all them creeps out of office and get a whole bunch of new people in there But the new generation could do that do it It's up to you guys come to us for the advice

But it's going to be up to you guys to do it to the practicality. Yeah You guys gotta carry the ball. We're too old to carry the ball now. Yeah, we can be the coaches We can be up in the press box. We can map the game out for you But it's you 40 and unders 50s and unders that gotta pick that ball up and run with it You gotta play the game now. Do you believe that things can change? I believe that they can but I don't I I'll tell you Because you're very optimistic for even somebody in your in your age. I find I shouldn't say that I am Uh, it's the first time in my life that I don't see the united states with a better future in the future

Um, that I don't see as much light as I used to I always would see Light at the tunnel. Yeah, but right now because Because there's so much lying And there's so much deceit And people don't know what to believe and what not to believe. Yeah, that's the scariest part and and our government causes it Yeah, and they cause it by things that like how come John F. Kennedy. They still have documents on that Right. It's 60 years ago And and and that and I'll even say 9 11

Yeah, because I have questions on both of those events and nobody seems to be able to answer them adequately for me and What troubles me about those and maybe we'll finish with this to make people think on it Is if the stories they told us are true right In the case of Kennedy and in the case of 9 11 if those are the truth what we were told Then why would anything have to be withheld because of national security? Yeah, the truth should be just the truth What what national if okay if lia's wall

was a lone nut And did what they said he did Why would any documents have to be held for national security? He was a he was a little private and in marines Yeah, he wasn't a general who had sensitive goofball Well, he was at a base where they you two flights and all that stuff We're wife beaters too. I remember but but then you look to 9 11 and you go, okay Here's what they told us to accept Right now listen to this. This is what they told us that 19 islamic radicals

Armed with armed with box cutters Defeated our multi-billion dollar air defense system All while conspiring with a bearded guy in a cave in afghanistan. Yeah, and we accepted that hook line and sinker now I have a hard time accepting that for a couple reasons first of all We've then been screwed because if we've paid billions of dollars for security

And you can defeat it with box cutters. Yeah We got screwed out of our money second of all When I was governor of minnesota if we would have had a disaster at a state level that would have been equivalent to that And it could have been prevented Don't you think somebody should get fired? And yet on 9 11 not one person lost their job Not one person was even demoted over this gross derelict of duty

Protecting us And the whole thing and in fact nobody was demoted the opposite occurred people got promoted How does that work? That's when I was in the navy seals We had a simple thing that failure was not an option. Yeah And I would think air defense failure is not an option Whoever was in charge of our air defense and allowed 18 islamic radicals with box cutters to defeat it Should have lost their job. Shouldn't they? Yeah. Well, you know why they don't lose their jobs?

That's how people start talking. That's how whistleblowers start. That's how information starts being developed If you lost your job and nobody else did you're gonna be pissed You're gonna say wait a minute. I did this I did that but so and so told me to do this Right and all of a sudden you've got People turning over other people and pretty soon it leads to higher places. Yeah Well, if you don't want that to happen, don't fire no one right and And the day goes on as normal the next day. Everyone's back to work. Everybody thinks they did everything fine. Yeah Not even knowing they might have been appalling and something and they didn't get fired

Nobody got don't you don't you guys think somebody should have got fired? Yeah. Oh, yeah With a catastrophe like that that we invest billions of dollars in yeah, we got their defense And they can go with box cutters and take three planes and smash them crazy now Well, I I'll leave you with it. I'll leave you with this one You all familiar with conspiracy theory. Yeah my tv show or did I get in trouble doing that? Oh, I know any problem with the guy Yeah, you know, well, I spoke to a woman Sergeant April Gallop Uh top secret crypto security clearance

She was in the room that the alleged plane hit the Pentagon Right. Mm-hmm. She looked me right in the eye and told me there was no plane What? Well, did you ever see one? No, no, all you saw was a hole and then they covered it up with a tarp There was no wings. There was no debris on the lawn outside There was no place where the wings hit the building to sever them If all you saw was this big hole. Yeah, that they covered up. She looked at me. She said there was no plane She said there was no luggage. There was no seats. There were no bodies

She staggered out the hole and was recovered on the lawn and the government immediately put her into 72 hour solitary Confinement where she couldn't talk to nobody Uh, yeah And she told me there was no plane. She said she thought she did it Because she said I was at work. I went in that day. She said I was working on my computer And she said right when I'd hit this particular button the whole room blew up And her initial thought was her computer was wired to a bomb. Wow, but she doesn't believe that now You know that it was right, but that's what happened and she said through all there was no plane

What does she believe now? She don't she won't she will just tell you there was no plane right? Which is all she knows she doesn't know what did it she doesn't know how it was done She just is clear That there was not a plane and when you look at the thing if they superimposed the plane with the hole Mm-hmm It the engines would have dug big trenches through the dirt before it struck because the engines are lower than the hole right

And they would have been down in the dirt digging a trench There were no trenches out there plus those planes have components out of carbon titanium steel Which is the hardest substance known to man when it hits cement the cement breaks the carbon titanium steel don't Where's the debris? Yeah Yeah, you never even heard about well, who can we trust the only planes here's another one for you These are the only planes that have ever gone down Where they never tried to put them with the pieces back resurrect them back together again Even though they should have had plenty of pieces. Yeah never was an attempt even done

To put that where they always do that in a plane crash. Oh, it's the big thing. They do That's the huge thing they do low and behold and this day 9 11. That wasn't done Well, I'll finish with the final one that I need an answer to here's the final one Prior to 9 11 base commanders Had the ability to scramble jets in other words if they got a call from the fAA That something was wrong up in the air a base commander could order and scramble jets Happened all the time. And what does that mean when they scramble a jet go jets to find out what's going on. Okay fighters

Okay, so so they could send in jets gang that'll put you in okay. They're sending fighter jets up tom cruise Oh, yeah, it's going airborne goose daddy. Just so you'll understand I don't know. Anyway Anyway, uh base commanders had the ability to do that. Okay, correct. Yes tell june of 2001 In june of 2001 there was an executive order That the only person that could scramble planes was donald rumsfeldt the secretary of defense

Had to come from donny That's happened in june 9 11 happens Interesting they couldn't find rummy for hours Rummy was unavailable So no planes could go into the air 9 11 happens One month later. Guess what the policies put back to the old of june 1st

Now the base commanders can scramble planes again But for that three month period in there They weren't allowed to I'd like an answer to that question and why an executive order went out to did that Yeah, and that why was it reinstated after 9 11 took place? 9 11 took place And who who can we trust then who can we trust? I don't know you got to trust yourself. Yeah, you got to do your own work Yeah, you know

You got to and and let me add this everything I did on Conspiracy theory. I didn't necessarily believe it. I don't know all of it You got to remember this entertainment. This is a tv show, right? You know like I the everyone's getting on me now because my show predicted the pandemic, right? Really? Yeah, this woman from South America. I had her on she was with that general that with the All that crazy stuff. What the hell is his name? No, the people who talk to goats. Oh, uh, general

Frigate his name It's not the vietnamese guy. No, no, no, no, he's got this real long name He's like a he's like a mystique person within the u.s. Military. Oh, dang. I don't even know Well, he came up here with his wife who's a doctor. I had her interviewed them in a hangar on I forget what subject it was and she told me there's going to be a pandemic Damn within the next six years And sure enough there was and that's why everyone's yelling at me that I'm a turncoat now because I got vaccinated Yeah, how does that make me a turncoat? Yeah, you know, I I look at it from

I look at it from the odds and when it's 10 to 1 you're gonna die Unless you get a vaccination I'm going with the good odds. I'm not gonna test the bad ones. I'm 70 years old now. Yeah, I want to stay here as long as I can Yeah, we need you here and and you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna get my booster coming up here No problem and people said and then bothered me, you know, the only thing that bothered me getting the shots My deltoid got sore. Yeah. Well, guess what when they stick a piece of metal in rock solid ripped muscle You know, it gets sore. By the way, you know, it's been good for me in the pandemic

Working out. Yeah, I'm 220. I'm in the bed. I got I got six pack 70 years old How many people can say at 70 they got a six pack, baby Not a lot of people why because there's nothing else to do Yeah, now, you know, I've been banned from the price is right Oh, yeah, because I watch it while I work out every day. I know the price of every car on there, baby I want to see you get through. I want to do carry. He's one of my favorites Oh, he's great. I trained to the price is right. Yeah, that is on every morning that I train whether I'm on the elliptic or doing my weights You carry and the price is right and then Andy a Mayberry. Oh, yeah, he's good. You know, I went to the home

By my wife a t-shirt. Oh, she hates Barney Fife. Oh, really? Yeah, she hates him. I so I'm getting her a t-shirt. I hate Barney Fife He's from North Carolina. Did you South Carolina? He's from South Carolina. Yeah, that's Mayberry South Carolina They North Carolina. There's a stat. No, the the guy is actually from whoever played Andy Griffith Oh, maybe he is but Mayberry itself was supposedly in South Carolina. Oh, yeah, there's a statue of him South Carolina. And uh, by the way, you heard that uh, they took down Robert E. Lee's Statue right in Virginia. Oh, yeah, finally. Yeah, did you hear what Trump said? Donald with his vast military knowledge and experience, you know, I I give him a lot of Credit and credibility. Here's a trump come on. You didn't hear what he said

Oh, he come out and said that Lee was a great general and had we had him we'd have won in Afghanistan He said this you guys are laughing. He said this Now my first question was even true We must really be getting bad history because if I recollect right didn't Lee lose in the civil war So shouldn't we have sent Ulysses Grant over to Afghanistan? He's the guy that won, you know Robert E. Lee lost Yeah, sometimes we don't even think about that. I mean, why would Trump want to send a guy who lost? Yeah

I Don't think that man thought a lot before you. I don't think Trump was a big thinker Why do you think so many people gravitated towards Trump because I know a lot of people that love Trump and they're not all Dummies, they're not all idiots. A lot of them are good people. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if it's fluoride in the water Because I've never had fluoride in my water. Do you think he just sounded like you know what that is fluoride in the water? No, I think we had it when I was fluoride in all water Uh-uh sure they do for your teeth. So you don't get cavities fluoride goes into all drinking water Oh, I got cavities. Well, do you know what fluoride's the major ingredient of?

I've never because all the homes and it wasn't by design But every house I've lived in I've had my own well Yeah, and I you can send it to the University of minnesota and the kids in chemistry will test your water free Wow or at minimal price. Yeah, because they got to have things to do They're in chemistry class our children. So they'll you know, they'll break down your water you can do it at the University Send it over there, and they'll give you a whole breakdown of what's in your well water. Wow well, uh The thing is I've had well water my whole life

I've never been hooked up to city water and none of the houses And city water like the city of brainard where fargo was filmed. They got a big fight years ago They didn't want to fluoridate their water the feds came in and made them. Wow. They didn't even get the option Well, here's the deal. You know what fluorides the major ingredient of prozac Oh, damn So if you're drinking fluorinated water on a daily basis, you're getting a daily supply of prozac Because that's the major ingredient prozac. What's prozac for to calm you down, right? Yeah, take away Anxiety, I guess I'd never use take away your ideas. I think maybe that's a certain point dumb you down

Oh, it really sedates your brain after a while. Yeah, and if you're drinking fluoridated water every day fluorides the major ingredient in prozac Fuck maybe an eight what does prozac do? Yeah, I don't know that I'm not a chemist. Yeah, all I can tell you is it's the major ingredient Of prozac is fluoride I'm not shocked Everything's scary now Well, it was scary then too. Was it always scary? Sure

We had the draft you think it's just new scarries now. We had the draft I go up in south minneapolis, right? If you grew up in south minneapolis and you had to go to work for a living because your parents weren't rich Guess what you were going to vietnam, right? If you grew up out in edinah Minnetonka with the fat cats where al franken grew up. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, well, then you went then you went to harvard. Oh, you were fine. You went to blake university No, you went to blake school here in minneapolis. That's an elite money school, you know Well, those kids didn't worry about vietnam

They went to college and got deferments and got out of it. Remember dick cheney got like six deferments out of vietnam And they asked him and dick's response was well. I had other priorities I heard that and said well, so did every other kid that got drafted. Why do you think they got drafted for christ sake? Yeah, they had other priorities. Yeah, you know me. I was a dummy. I went enlisted. Do you know the navies never drafted? Oh, really? Nope. So only the army's drafted. Army and the marines and all that A lot of people when there was the draft a lot of people would join the navy Because with the navy you're at least guaranteed three hots and a cot. Oh, yeah, you know, you're gonna get a bed And you're gonna get three hot meals a day. You're not gonna be laying in the dirt

Yeah, but then you can do what I did and go into volunteer for what they call the brownwater navy And then you probably well, we had it better than the army though in the infest all of our operations were one-nighters We don't go out but the marines are those hitman the marines come in and they're the hitman. No, we are I mean you gotta understand something. I don't there's a there's a the marines claim their first ashore, right? They're not Want me to sing you I'll end you with a song. Okay, it'll piss off all the marines because we used to piss them off Anyway, let's keep it. They never liked us Frogmen seals to begin with let's keep it going. Here's here's a here's a song we used to sing

Entrain in udt seal training. Okay, and it's entitled marines drowning in the waves Okay Now you know that udt stands for underwater demolition tea Okay, okay, and we're in buds is called basic underwater demolition slash seal Okay, you know Because the seals came about in 62 When kennedy took the frogmen out of the water and put them on land And so they needed a name and they came up with sear land

Because we'll come from the sea we'll come from the air we'll come from the land Sear land that's a seal stands for and this is a song we would sing in training It's called marines drowning in the waves It goes marines drowning in the waves It's udt who always saves and when a job they cannot do It's udt who pulls it through Although they claim their first assure

udt's been there before whole lathernecks unbended knees Can kiss the ass of udt's Now here's the tradition We came about because in world war two You know those landing boats with the marines that flopped the front down and the marines charge off on the beach Well, they did one of them and there was a sandbar And when the boats went down they hit the sandbar when they dropped their front I forget hundreds of marines ran off and drowned because they ran into deep water. Nobody knew the sandbar was there

So they needed to form the underwater demolition teams. Now the blowing up came from obstacles The enemy would put in the water to stop those we would blow them up, but we also would recon the beach To show where the boats could go in So they wouldn't hit a sandbar and potentially kill these brave marines that are charging the beach and don't get me wrong They I wouldn't do it. They're brave as hell. Yeah, I'll go in before them any day I don't want to be charging with them. Yeah, you know, I'll go in in the dark I'll go in here from prep work. You'll be going in the dark, but what became a tradition Especially in the pacific

Was that when the marines were going to land the udt watched the frogmen the movie with richard widmark When the udt would do the reconnaissance at some point during the reconnaissance One one or two frogmen with a pre-made sign They carried with them would skin up onto the beach to the high watermark And they'd pound the sign in before they left in the dark In the morning when the marines had hit there would be a sign on the beach Welcome us marine corps udt whatever team it was So we would welcome the marines to the beach. Say we got there first

That was the way they knew we were welcoming them. So when the marines claim their first ashore We've been there before now granted. We don't stay Yeah, we get But we make sure it's okay for them to charge the next day So and I have all the respect in the world for 100 it sounds like in fact, I'll tell you this Some things I would do we'd get either helicopters. We did a lot of things with helos And we'd either get navy pilots or marine pilots. I would always inquire who's flying us and when they'd say marines I'd always go good. Yeah, because I knew

that if Anything went out of whack And you called that marine he's coming. Wow He's a marine. He's gonna come. There's something special. He's not gonna Think he's not gonna have second thoughts. He's gonna charge the beach. He's marine So I always felt better when I knew marine pilots were flying us. Yeah We got a couple of jar heads up there flying us today. That's okay. That's a good start But uh, no, it's a natural arrival. We were no, I love it

We were at camp penalty once and what I used to hate about it was they used to send us up there when the marines had practiced their landings So we'd have to sit up all day in these boats if any of them fell in the water to Pull them out. Yeah, you know we're lifeguards, right and we think what the hell where's marine recon How come they don't do this shit? What do we got to come up here and do this all day out in the sun? bobbing around while they're landing on the beach, you know and uh Well, the one time we went up the penalty and we had master chief core He came up with us e9 our command master chief. Okay. That's the highest you can get e9. Yeah enlisted. Yeah, you're head listed, right?

Well marines don't always know uniforms very good, you know charging the beach don't require you to know A lot of other stuff, right? So an e9 in the navy on his lapel Carries an anchor with two stars on the anchor the anchor signifies a chief Okay, and the two little stars indicate a senior chief or a master chief. Okay, e9 Okay, well corey's walking on the beach with his master chief two stars And all of a sudden these marines are running on the beach and shit They're stopping boy and they're popping salutes to corey every going by right. Well corey's enlisted man. He's e9

well Then it hit us They think corey's a two-star admiral all they're doing is seeing the two stars up on the lapel And the marines don't know navy insignias. They think corey's it and words spread due to means oh boy The frogmen got a two-star admiral with them. Holy crap right on the beach with them They got some two-star navy admiral with them, you know, so we got anything we wanted Hey, we need some stuff. Oh, yeah I need a crab leg up here at the front

Yeah, well, I'll say this and I'll you know, I Was in the naval amphibious base Coronado and that one best chow hall It's beautiful over there in the western pacific for like nine or ten years in a row You know, we you know that shows you the superiority between the navy and the rest of the services Every friday at the naval amphib base Coronado. Do you know what we had for lunch? Every friday without fail frog Steak and lobster baby Damn, they'd cover your beautiful piece of steak with a lobster tail

God Yeah, you know what it used to cost me for that because I our job takes us away from the base So we have to pay to eat on the base. We get what's called comrades in case we got to eat in town or somewhere Yeah, well, you know, so we get paid so I got to pay on the base You know what the steak and lobster would cost me like 85 cents. Damn Um, that's a deal, bro. Yeah. Yeah, breakfast was like 35 cents Anything you wanted to eat. Damn went to army jump school Oh my god

If they didn't have the pizza trucks that ran around at night, I just starved to death. Really? Oh the army's horrifying Army jump school they measure out and you get one scoop of everything you look at and you go We got out there to seals and we're complaining to the army going how you're supposed to fight if you're not being fed Cripe almighty. We need food. We work out Burn energy feed us So they made us do kp one time and boy. We said what is this bullshit? We said if the green berets came to our base, we wouldn't make them do kp

And you had to do it. Well, we're in army airborne school part of the school You know, which is a joke. I just completed 26 weeks of seal training and I go out for three weeks at jump school Yeah We used to get up at five in the morning and do pt before they'd even get up on purpose to wake them all up We'd be out there doing pt. The seals are out at 5 a.m. Doing pt because they don't get enough from us Damn. Oh, yeah, that's all part of the mystique baby the mystique back then it was fun They didn't know us at all Wow, in fact, we sent tremors through the rest of the navy

It was all secretive, huh? Well final story. I went to boot camp and that's where you go to boot camp When you go to navy boot camp, it's not difficult, right? There's nothing hard there. In fact, I used to work out and do push-ups at night because I was getting out of shape Damn, so I'm at boot camp. Well, one day every day at boot camp you get taught a different facet of the navy Electronics technician storekeeper boatsons mate Sonar tech whatever all these different jobs in the navy Well, the one day you get the udt seal presentation Yeah, they march three companies into a room. So it's probably

Close to a hundred guys in there Yeah, close to a hundred guys in there. You're giving the presentation. You're getting oh, we're getting it Okay, they march in you in boot camp They march you into a room and all of a sudden these guys come walking out wearing marine greens spit shine Cochran jump boots They don't look navy And they're all built damn and the guy walks up chief rachet and goes Today gentlemen, you're gonna hear about the brownwater navy the udt seal. We are the navy special forces

You volunteer to be one of us Damn, you can't just be one of us You have to pass Our test to be one of us So then they showed you showed us a film called the men with green faces And you watch this film right and it tells you all about the seals, right? And when you're done with that He comes back out and he says okay

Anybody that wants to volunteer for the udt seal program stay seated He goes the rest of you get the fuck out of here There were guys running over each other getting to the doors. Yeah, because I mean half of them joined the navy They didn't want to be doing this shit. You know what they watched on a film Going behind enemy lines six guys All this stuff. They didn't want that smoke. There's no friendlies anywhere. Wow That type of work. Yeah, I'd rather be on the ship But you wanted it

Oh, you have to have you volunteer Okay, probably I would say let me think back 30 guys maybe stayed 25 to take this what they call the screen test I would say a dozen of us were serious the other 12 or whatever We're just doing it to break the monotony a boot camp. Yeah And so they they march you over to the swimming pool And you got to line up across the pool and you got to do a 300 meter swim long course 50 meter pool

Using only an underwater recovery stroke. You can't swim crawl. You can't swim butterfly or backstroke You have to swim either breaststroke or side stroke something that doesn't bring your arms out of the water Because you're going to be doing clandestine swimming. So you can't breathe out of the water No, you can't breathe. You can't bring your arms. Oh, you got to be you don't want to be splashing. You want to underwater breaststroke Is an underwater recovery stroke hot and go see all they see is your head If you're swimming the butterfly You're splashing and you look like a butterfly coming in on the beach. Yeah, that brings intention Yeah, so you can only do this swim using an underwater recovery stroke 300 meters

Well, I was a competitive swimmer So this was a piece of cake for me and like a dummy I do it like I'm in the olympic trials and I win by like a pool length I'm going to show these seal instructors. Boom. I hit the I'm doing breaststroke like I'm in The turn the pull underwater the kid doing it all Yeah, you know, and I'm down and back the six. I'm done The next guy's still got 50 hours 50 meters to go, right? But I was stupid. I wore myself out

I could have cruised because when I later learned because I used to give screen tests later when I learned the time You had to beat I could have cruised I didn't need to go that fast Then I would say half of more gone at the end of the swim it eliminated half We're now down to I think Eight guys Wow They paired us up and you had to do as many push-ups as you could in two minutes only resting in the up position

And then the other guy went and you counted for each other Then as many sit-ups as you could do in two minutes and then as many four count burpees as you could do in two minutes Then they took you over to the to the track And you then had to run a mile and again, they don't tell you what's passing They just say four times around the track run the mile. Do you remember how quick you went? I don't know. Yeah They didn't have a clock. I don't know. They didn't tell you I I won the swim. I did great on everything else. I came in third on the run Brettlinger and Bueller. I even know the two guys Brettlinger and Bueller beat me. Yeah on the run

So we finished the run They then line up the eight or ten guys whoever was left up And they walked down the line with a clipboard and all he says to you is either pass or fail You know how many pass for oh So you had a hundred guys and only four guys passed that was just to get to training Then when you get to training each class starts with about a hundred guys roughly You will probably graduate 25 Wow

It's got a 75 to 80 percent attrition rate. That's all for udt seals both that's for seals for boats. It's all you're all one Oh, wow, there ain't no difference. Oh, okay. There's no difference. There's no differences in training Same thing in my day. You then went to a udt team or a seal team And they generally sent the better swimmers went to a udt team Because you were going to do more water work Than a seal would wow So I got sent to a udt team because I was a good swimmer And I think back and all the guys from my class that went they were all the best swimmers in the class

And the instructor told me later. Yeah, I said, oh, yeah, the best swimmers went to the udt The the others went to the seals the stronger swimmers always went to udt And but you still carried weapons. You still did in fact lots of times We were the demolition element with the seals They'd come and get one of us to go with the set up the explosives For them, you know, that's cool and all that. No, it ain't cool. None of it's cool Oh, it isn't no none of it today. My view today is I'm so anti-war really yep But at the time you had a different perception had to yeah had to

But today it's all Tell me one war we've been in since world war two. Oh, I agree that accomplished something. Yeah, tell me one ain't any Tell me one that accomplished something. Yeah, none. Yeah, why were they fought? I don't know I'll finish with this my father had my mother and father are both world war two veterans Yeah, my mom was a nurse in North Africa that pre-dated Normandy Wow, not many can say their mom and my mom was actually injured and sent back home Deeper in North Africa as a nurse

And my dad was under patent had six bronze battle stars North Africa Normandy Battle of the bulge remog and bridge Anzio and Berlin and lived Jeepers Jesus, right? Those are my parents now. You kind of understand but they weren't war mongers They were nothing like that. But now you kind of understand why I went in the service. Yeah Everyone in my family went in the service. It was kind of just what you did and my parents never pushed us In fact, my dad I came home from high school And my dad was home World War two vets six bronze battle stars And I come home and told my dad dad

We got a fight in Vietnam My dad goes why why do you think that? I said, we have to stop the domino effect of communism if we don't stop them there The communism is going to go all over the world. This is what I yeah, that's what they thought India everywhere Yeah, that's what they thought India everywhere. You know, my dad did he looked at me and he said Is that what they're teaching you in school? I said, yeah My dad looked at me and said that's the biggest bunch of bullshit. I've ever heard. Wow. Now imagine what I went through right there

My father's telling me my teachers are bullshitting me I respected my teachers they did and here's my dad Telling me they're giving me a line of bullshit My dad looked at me and said We're not there to stop communism. He said we're there because somebody's making big money Well, when I I was fortunate to come home And I was fortunate that my second deployment they had pulled us out

You know, I was at the very tail end February 71 until November 71 And uh, I was able to come home to my dad and say guess what dad you were right And my dad looked at me and said oh, I always knew I was right I said, it's sometimes you just have to learn things the hard way. I said I tried to I did what I felt I had to do to tell you the truth. The rest was up to you. Wow But I mean my dad was against the vietnam war before the hippies damn And here's a six. So you'll find that many veterans like myself are the most anti-war people Because they know it doesn't accomplish nothing and my dad fought in the popular war

Jesus the one that was the great war. Yeah, you know the one that stopped hitler Yeah, I might add too Anyone that studies hitler in 30s, germany Take a look at donald trump Yeah, same playbook Same playbook As hitlers germany And he's doing it right now. Yeah, and this country's so stupid

They're falling for it The guy's a con man And a good one because he's got a lot of smart people that have bought Drank the Kool-Aid for lack of better. He's jim jones You know, they're all do you feel like all the all so many politicians are con men though, huh? He's not a politician, right? That's a good point That's a good and also too. You know how the rock is said he might run and all this What these what people need to understand is this?

Yes, jesse ventura won But they need to understand jesse ventura has done 14 years of public service, right? Donald trump had done none. Yeah the rock to my knowledge. I love the rock, but he's done none, right? I was in the military six years. So I understand that part Right, right. That's public service, right? You were a mayor I was a mayor of the sixth largest city for four years And I was a governor for four years. So I've every branch of government So I have experience in the public sector. Yeah, these guys don't and here's the big difference and I'll end with this

The difference is this The private sector is for profit The public sector is to provide services. There's a big difference These guys that come from the private sector bring only expertise at making profit They don't bring the expertise at providing public service. Yeah Government is public service. It's to provide for the masses. Yeah the good of the Many Not the good of the few and not the good of the elite

Or the rich it's to the masses. These guys have no Donald trump had no experience Especially not I don't think of helping anyone but himself I would agree with that, you know, and that's how come he came in and governed the same way Yeah, and why people think he's the messiah I've had people, you know, I'm agnostic atheist, right? I've had people tell me Donald trump is a good christian You know what I responded with well, if he's a good christian, I'm glad I'm not You know, if that's what a good christian is You don't want any party

I don't want no part of it. I don't want no part of it because he'd sell his soul to rock and roll, baby He'll sell out the he'll sell out. Look what look at what he's done to all the people around him If you don't count out to him, he sells you out on the river, man. Yeah Yeah, I think it's so many of those guys. It's the dark arts, man I just wonder how do we get out of the system? How do we break this this don't vote for democrats and republicans? Yeah, agree It's it's as simple as the nose on your face. Yeah, but it's as difficult as climbing Mount Everest. Yeah Yeah, you know and especially let me throw this out especially

Here's one that goes beyond my belief When you have a state like like I said the talibans in texas now I call texas the home of the talib in the united states taliban Because do you know right now it's easier to buy a gun in texas than vote? Man now, isn't there something inherently wrong with that? Yeah, you can buy a gun in texas easier than you can vote Jeepers Nobody's an idea for the gun

Do you walk in anywhere in texas and buy a gun? But if you got a vote, yeah, oh you got a register jump through hoops. They've closed voting places You maybe have to drive 30 miles. Yeah, can't mail nothing in anymore You know none of that we will have and you know, there's no voter fraud I can tell you I knew that when I got into office in minnesota. We did a huge study and it came back Nothing significant. Yeah, and all the things they've caught now the only votes they've caught have been votes for trump that were illegal Yeah, you know It's a lot of who here's the part that makes me laugh

Who do they think is out organizing voter fraud and for what purpose? You got local people that volunteer their good time To be independent and count these votes like great american citizens And then you got the trumpies telling them they're all a bunch of crooks. Yeah How dare these trumpies say that? Well, I think they have no proof. I think there's no none I think there's no way to determine if there's people counting the votes what their Allegiances are both are there right both are represented. Oh, well, if that's not done behind closed doors Yeah, then that's totally that makes and they had that phony recount in arizona

biden won Even when they hired their hired guns to come in and hopefully switch it over so they'd have an argument Yeah, none of that amount. It's anything. Well 60 court cases all thrown out Yeah, Rudy Giuliani getting disbarred in some states now because he brought these lawsuit or Brought things to court with no evidence. Yeah, which they do have rules, you know As a lawyer, you can't just bring frivolous things forward. You got to have evidence. Yeah, they had no evidence of nothing Yeah, and yet people have bought into it and said it happened I don't get it. That is interesting. I don't know

It's funny to know how how involved people are where people what people are trusted have any of you ever met anyone that committed voter fraud You know how your years on the planet ever talked to anyone about doing it No, it's almost every crime. We've got four people in the room and it's only come to light in the last year or two Voter fraud. That's a good point. Nobody cared. You know, no nobody any other election And and and trump gave us a preview because remember all leading up to the election He was he was setting himself up if he lost. Oh if I lose it's because it's rigged Yeah, remember he started that early on out. I'll tell you the person who knows him Forward and backwards is that nisa his have you seen her? Oh, is he real dumb?

No, no, no his niece. Fine. She's a trump She she's a psychologist Legit. Oh, is she went to college? She gets on tv and dissects his brain everything she said about him is exactly what happens Interesting. She said he will never admit losing the election No matter what. Yeah, that's a lot of his thing is no admission never will admit it of defeat And then he's got all these people out there that are buying the Kool-Aid like this guy's a hero

I don't know why I think different people like him for different reasons this guy ran from the draft Yeah, he bought his right now. I look up to Muhammad Ali And Muhammad Ali ran from the draft. You know what the difference is though? You know what the difference is Ali was willing to go to jail for his beliefs Trump wasn't trump bought his way out Trump faced no charges. Yeah Trump bucked, you know, that's rich people man rigged the system. That's rich people but see see Ali And Ali had it made they already told him you're gonna do nothing

But what Joel Lewis did you'll go down you'll do exhibitions did it? Ali wasn't gonna get he knew they were gonna use him to get black kids to volunteer to send to vietnam He was gonna have none of it Muhammad was not going to be the catalyst that sent his Black kids, you know people have asked me if I've ever used the n-word. Yeah, and I have to admit I have I used it. No, I used it when I quote Ali. Oh, wow I quote Muhammad Ali and he used it. So if he can use it, I can quote him And not and he said it about the vietcong

Remember he said no vietcong never called me The n-word. Oh, wow No, no, I remember when Muhammad said that the depress ain't no vietcong What do I want to fight these people for ain't no vietcong ever called me The n-word You know and so Muhammad wouldn't get sucked in To bring in all the other blacks so they could kill them in vietnam and send them because blacks were very much Disport disproportionately represented in vietnam. Really? They didn't have a lot of them

They what was our black population then maybe 10 11 percent? Was it even that high and what percent were in vietnam or really sure Yeah, because the people that serve like that are the poor people. Oh, yeah, well, it's a lot of latina It's a lot of mexican and black. It's a lot of poor white Um in my neighborhood in south miniapolis. I grew up south miniapolis by the lake street bridge Where what's his name died is my old neighborhood is all through there. Yeah, george floyd Yeah, well if you grew up there, you maybe had to go to work Right. Well, then you went to vietnam. I have all sorts of friends that got drafted. Yeah

But again, if you lived out at lake minnetonka or edina, you didn't see vietnam. You went to college. You got deferments See, it was so Unfair it's always been like that though. It's always the poorest people are always the ones you know what they're gonna have to do If they bring it back what gonna have to draft women. Wow They'll have some of these bitches need to go out. Oh, they'll have to yeah. How couldn't they not look it's time I want to see how I don't want to see no draft at all. I worked against the draft I came back and used to used to march against the draft. Absolutely. Wow. Why should us? Why should the rich get out of it? Oh, I don't think the rich should get out of it

But I think you got a final way to get everybody to be draft to make it fair That's why a lot of these things it's like if it started into the rich people things would be different If we weren't involved in all these wars, we wouldn't need all these people Yeah, and besides you kill people with pushing a button more than you do would Boots on the ground These days the actual people aren't having a chance in their own life even almost in their own safety out there The whole war thing Is is sad because we spend all our money in preparation for war

I mean everyone's bitching about Biden's 3.5 trillion dollar being too much. It's too much to spend that on us They have no problem spending that in afghanistan right had no problem spending it in iraq But yet here they're going to spend it on people in the united states and there's an outrage. Yeah, it's too much Too much money for us. Yeah, it's our money, but it's too much for us Oh god, don't give it to us. Don't help out americans Certainly we could ship it off to a war and build a nation somewhere You know we could spend trillions like we did in afghanistan and iraq

And what do we have to show for it zilch? Not a ton, you know, but oh god. No don't that's way big too price tag us republicans aren't gonna stand for that That's a good point, man. You know you're spending the money on us. Yeah on people of america jobs programs and and you know Leave so women can work and think you know for kids and babies and oh god We don't want to spend money on that when we can spend money on a new aircraft carrier. Yeah, that's crazy, huh? You know, Jesus come on. It's yeah, I hope everyone's getting my sarcasm

I hope I'm being over the top with a lot of a dirty fun. Good good good Because you never know today somebody's good. Oh, you should heard what jesse said Well, fuck them man people. Look, I think you speak loud and clear and I think it's obvious what you say and Uh, just you have quite a body of work and I just appreciate you being here and spending time today There were some things you're a comedian. I am man. I am uh Uh, finish me with a freaking joke sometimes I'm gonna put you on the hot spot. Give me a freaking joke comedian. Uh Let me think of something good man. All right. Let's let's you let's happen that golf years ago

Okay, I was playing with the and a guy from wisconsin told it to me. Uh-huh Did you hear about when jeffrey dommer had his mom over for dinner? You know jeffrey dommer. Oh, yeah. Yeah the dangerous man. Yeah, you heard about when he had his mom over for dinner Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, he had his mom over for dinner and his mom said jeffrey You know, I just don't care for these friends of yours and jeffrey said that's okay mom try the vegetables Now to remind you dommer's the guy that was the cannibal. Oh, yeah, no, I know I almost ate a freaking vietnamese guy one time at a damn best bar I thought I heard that joke playing golf. I thought it was kind of funny. No, look, I think it's good

You gotta remember the cheese heads over there. They birth a lot of you. You know about ed gain, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a cheese head right across the river packers fan Sure. Yeah. Well, I don't know if he was a packers fan, but he's a cheese head. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was That's somebody from wisconsin. He's from illinois. Well, he was from wisconsin. Yes. Oh, I thought he's from illinois. Well, no He's wisconsin about 800 miles over the border over there a lot of creeps out there Ed gain. Yeah, that's who they did psycho dude, you know, Lee Lee Harvey Oswald went to school in my hometown Did he yeah in louisiana pretty cool, man. Yeah Um, you know, you would love to talk to you man is robert kennedy

Bob junior i've talked to you have yeah, he's a really smart guy man. Both you guys just have so much information I've taken his sun diving. Wow, that's cool. His sons are awesome. Aren't they good kids? Yeah, his son was down in cabo and we have a mutual friend dick russell who i've done books with And uh, and so, uh, robert's son wanted to go diving with an authentic frog man So I went over there and joined him and and I took robert's son diving Yeah, so he could dive with an authentic real frog man. That's cool. He was pretty excited over that and there was I enjoyed it, you know, kind of granting the kids wish, you know, yeah You know, we'll tell his friends. Yeah, I've dove with a real frog man. Yeah, you know, so, uh,

No, he's a he's a special guy I've ever been two hundred and twelve feet Damn under the water. What was down there? Nothing. Yeah, it's blackered in hell. Can't see a thing Can't see your hand in front of your face. Did you get scared or no? No, there's a bounce dive where you go down We did off point loma It's a great story Bounce dive probably 10 or 12 pairs of guys and what you do is you're going down two hundred and 12 feet You're staying there for a minimum time. So you don't have to decompress So your bottom's about 30 seconds. Okay, then you got to start coming up

But you come up only with your slowest bubbles. Are you on a rope? Yeah, okay They did the thing down you get down there and you'll see how deep you they dropped it down two hundred and twelve feet So we went down two hundred and twelve feet and the good part was point loma We all got done about 10 swim pairs We were pulling the rubber raft boat into the pl boat and one of my teammates Go he's on the fan tailed back. He goes hey guys check it out and he points over here Here come a fricking great white Swimming right on the surface dorsal fin about a foot and a half out of the water

Cruised right by us as big as jaws And we're all sitting in the pl boat watching this big boy go by We had detracted his attention. Apparently us going up and down the pairs He came over to see what what's this? Yeah, and now we had just all happened to getting out of the water when he went cruising by See, I was happy that I was in the seals and was a frogman jaws didn't come out till 75 I was discharged out of the navy by then Because if they'd had jaws, yeah, I'm sure they would have showed it to us one night in training

Yeah, we would have had to sat and watch jaws and then go on a swim Oh, that would have been No, I mean the instructors would do that just to get the guys to quit. Yeah, okay. You just watch jaws Now we're going on a two mile ocean swim Out of quit man, uh swim I had to do five miles. Really? Straight or is it just take you five miles from the beach in San Diego and they dump you off They're out there with a pl. They got an m16. Damn case anything comes around You know, there's always a guy with an m16

And they you're you're out so far with in the swells. You can't even see the skyscrapers of San Diego Wow at water level And they just point and say that way and you start swimming and five miles takes you a good part of the day Damn, you know, you spend I was a good swimmer. So I got in early. It is enjoyable. Do you kick your legs when you swim? You just use your arms. You got fins on damn, right? Yeah, right. You don't want to not use your fins Yeah, I mess up. You do it. You got to qualify for them though. You got to swim a swim under a certain time Then you get your fins. Oh damn and then from that point on you can do all your swims with fins And you hell you're in the ocean. You want fins. Oh, yeah, you're not in a pool

You know, I did my share of swimming on the line. Yeah, you know competitive swimming My claim to fame. I actually swam in the same pool with mark spitz once. Oh damn Um, you know didn't compete against him. I just was in the same pool. Could you have been a competitive swimmer? You know, I was just not at his level. Yeah He's a seven Olympic gold medals. Yeah, he was even when felps broke his record. It was remarkable. I didn't think anyone ever would But spitz's record was still better than felps is eight. You know why? Spitz's seven is better than felps is eight in my opinion because it was in more categories. Mm-hmm

One reason um spitz's seven gold medals were also seven world records Oh felps is eight gold medals were eight gold medals, but not every swim was a world record Damn mark spitz's seven golds were also seven world records. I take I like that, you know seven gold medals seven world records I can barely fucking swim and oh I could I swam I Spent more time in a pool than I did On land. I would ride on your back. I bet I would probably ride on your back That's why I don't swim today. Yeah, I don't even I live a place on the ocean. I don't even go out in it Damn, there's what's out there? You've seen it all you've been through it all

But I want to go out there for you got a big body of work. Jesse Ventura You got a big body of work. You haven't given me a joke yet. I can't leave. I gave you a joke now All right, I gave you the dommer joke. You're right. You're a comedian. Find me a freaking joke. All right. I got this joke then this is one uh What do you call a fish with no eyes? A fish with no, uh, what do you call a fish with no eyes? And it's got to be something. Okay, what what's in the water that's blind? I don't know what

a What Yeah, my niece told me that one Thank god it was your niece I'll give it a pass now because your niece told you that one I've been running something from your comedy routine. Oh, here's what I got from you Now your little niece who comes up with a funny Okay, I'll tell you this for credit. That's so how old was she? Uh, I think she's nine. Yeah. Well, that's

That fits about a nine. That's a good one. All right, I got one for you dude. For the nine-year-old very good Okay, here's one. Give me one from your routine. Okay. My cousin just got busted for uh Pot sucking really small dicks That's just a joke so So either way you lose here. I mean, they're all bad ones. Where are you playing? So I know where I'm not going Jesse Ventura, you better get something to make me laugh. I'm gonna come see you. You know what? I got a special coming on now. You do stand up. Yeah

You know, I've been told that I could do that. Really? Yeah, because I can hold I can oh, I could see you holding a room Yeah, I could see you doing tours like Jaco willing does he does a lot of speaking and tours and what I do I don't really do stand-up comedy, but I do a lot of make people laugh Yeah, I with the stupidity of things I tell them I'd like to Oh, I think the points you would make and bring in insight into people I think would be A lot of people would be laughing at themselves because because like I said earlier the thrill for me was being able to go to harvard And I'll tell you this too

I maybe they've been broken now, but I had the largest classes in harvard history. Damn They had to move me into the commons Because my classes were open to everybody And so oh, yeah, they had to move me in the commons because it was The place would just fill up. Oh, dude You're like you you remind me of like christopher lord if you had big fucking balls, you know Yeah, well and it was fun just it was fun for me to be able to go there and influence Kids who I know and are going to end up probably being important, right?

You know because of where they go to school and and and everything like that And it's like when Muhammad Ali went and spoke at a harvard graduation. Wow, you know I need to go back and listen to some of that stuff And you know, Muhammad when he spoke at the harvard graduation, he set the world's record for the shortest poem Damn He did what it was you remember. Yeah He uh, he was speaking at the graduates of harvard. I heard the tort story told And somebody in the crowd yelled out give us a poem

And ali looked at the crowd and it was the shorter that it should be the shortest in history He went me We It's not that it's all right, and that's the shortest poem Me we And ali did that off his top of his head Oh, that's interesting the guy who talked about it was uh, plimpton. I think it was i heard george plimpton Yeah, oh damn he was talking or it was either him or another one of them famous writers

And they said they looked it up and they said that's it qualifiers Because the one before had three syllables. Damn ali's had two And then the one that was listed as the record had three syllables He was a real master, you know, I was lucky. I got to spend a day with him. Really? Oh, yeah Would y'all do the yogurt at dinner? No sat in his house Baron springs. I didn't want to go to no frickin dinner. Yeah, I wanted to that was in his house all day with just his people and me and my people

And uh He well because the story is when I won the governor Um, I got up and I talked that night about That I was a young kid when mohammed ali then cashus clay beat sonny listen for the world title I said nobody believed that cashus would win now ali And I said that night. He said he shocked the world. Well. I said tonight. We shocked the world gang Don't end there I'm in the governor-elect

I'm in the bowels of the capital haven't taken over yet A business friend of mine harvey mckay shows up on my schedule for 10 minutes And harvey walks in i said harvey, what are you doing here? He said I brought you something and you had a big box It's better open it. I opened the box up On the inside was a pair of everlast boxing gloves. Oh, wow I hate this park What makes you sad he's my hero. Oh, yeah The boxing gloves

Said to governor ventura You shocked the world Mohamed ali He was watching Sorry He was watching that night And he took the time And that's what set up for me to come visit him. Wow. And when I went to visit him, he was of course stricken with the parkinsons

But his wife lani said to me. She said, you know, mohammed wouldn't take his medicine last night And I said why she said because it it slows him down and he didn't want to be slow He was so excited you were coming today. Oh, and I thought mohammed ali is excited that I'm coming to see him Give me a break You know what what what made you so happy that he was proud of you because he's my hero. Yeah He's he's a guy who If you read his biography, he developed this whole style from pro wrestling. Oh, wow

and uh he uh battled the system He was a man who stood up for what he believed in and was willing to pay the price for it And I don't think there's a better hero you can have Yeah world And so he's my hero. He always was he always will be And I think it kind of shocked mohammed because uh

Do you want to hear what I did for him that day? Yeah, I would like to hear that And this will be the ending. I don't know if your tape's still running. We might be out of tape. That's okay Here's what I looked at him and I said I am the greatest by caches clay This is the legend of caches clay the most beautiful fighter in the world today He talks a great deal and brags indeedy of a muscular punch. That's incredibly speedy The fistic world was dull and weary with a champ like liston things had to be dreary Then someone with color someone would dash brought fight fans are running with cash

This brash young boxer is something to see and the heavyweight championship is his destiny. This kid fights great He's got speed and endurance But if you sign to fight him increase your insurance this kid's got a left This kid's got a right if he hits you want your sleep for the night Then as you lie on the floor while the ref counts 10 you pray that you won't have to fight me again For I am the man this story's about I'll be champ of the world. There isn't a doubt here I predict mr. Liston's dismemberment. I'll hit him so hard. He'll wonder where october and november went Here I predict and I know the score

I'll be champ of the world in 64 Now That's off memory. Yeah That's your hero. Tell me he would he he didn't And when I did that for him He had tears in his eyes because I think he thought what the hell would a little white boy in south minneapolis And you know where that's from he did an album

Way back called. I am the greatest disc Where he's standing there with his foot up and holding a fist. I am the greatest by cash's clay I used to listen to that album Day in and day out as a young 10 11 year old kid Who wanted to be a fighter and ended up a wrestler? Yeah He ended up pretty close though. Well, mohammed learned from uh, wrestling. No, it's interesting. Yeah No, he said he went to an interview once and it was him and gorgeous george

And he sat and he was early in his career and he heard gorgeous george bragging away and doing what wrestlers do Well, mohammed said that night. I was boxing in front of 20 people. He said gorgeous george was wrestling in front of 5000 Wow Light went off mohammed said you got to sell yourself here You got to do what these wrestlers do start and that's when he started naming the round Yeah, they all must fall in the round. I call they almost lose in the round. I choose You know and he started predicting his knockouts and then he did it speaking things into existence too It's kind of wild. That's what really got him going. He then did it. Yeah, you know, but no ali

Ali was bigger than life really for what he stood for and you know, this kid from louisville who rose up and learned and wouldn't be manipulated and uh And he he he stood for what he believed and he wouldn't compromise

And I'd like to believe that everything I do is very much in That aspect for me too. And then if whatever I do, I'd make him proud you know and We ran into each other later out in la I saw lani at the hotel in beverly hills. I looked at the lani. What are you doing here? I thought uh jesse did I said is mohammed here? She goes. Oh, yeah, he's up. She told me before she said okay She'd go up. He'd love to see you. Wow. So I ran to the other it's that hotel

It's on both sides of the street I ran to the other one got in the elevator went up there She told me the door rang the doorbell up there and I'll never forget this young black kid opened the door He saw it was me and his jaw dropped and he was frozen And I looked at the black kid and I thought And he could I thought you're frozen looking at me and you're in a room with mohammed Ali Something wrong with this picture

Are you kidding me? No, this kid was all jesse ventura So I came in and mohammed and I hugged and talked and Had a good little thing there and he was the car was coming for him. He was doing something or other and You know and I was out there doing business or whatever and And then later, you know, of course he died and all of that, but he'll live forever Yeah, you know, I think is he'll live as long as I'm around because he's loving the story I mean he lives through stories live through lore even my dad and my dad knew a lot about boxing He fought a little himself and all that the world war two vet

My dad gave in to me in the end You know what he said? He said that clay kid. He said he's the best ever. Wow and I said, why is that dad? Why'd you say that my dad died in 91 And I said dad, how come now you say that mohammed's the best ever? He said I'll tell you why he said speed He said no heavyweight has ever had the speed that guy had with his legs and his hands

He said he'd have beat him all And my dad grew up with dem see grew up with all But he said Ali to beat him all he said there was no way they could have contended with his speed And he proved it while he proves the opposite to george foreman. Yeah, he got george would rope it open. Yeah. Yeah Oh, he's remarkable to watch man. You know changed his whole style and got george to punch himself out He's one of a kind and pig george did And george ended up being a hell of a guy after that george foreman is you know He went into depression I heard for two years

But when he came out of it george foreman is one the most likable guys in the world now Hey, man, you know and and today he just says I just thank goodness. I fought ali. Wow He made me took me to elements. I never got to Well, you're doing that for us jesse. We thank you so much for your time jesse the body vinter Thank you so much for being here today, man. Thank you. Have a good day