This Past Weekend - E426 Kyle Forgeard

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Starting point is 00:03:28 Um, today's guest is Mr. Kyle Foreguard. I don't know if any, like people say stop drinking water past like seven PM or some shit. Yeah. I just, I love water. Yeah, I like it. Like people are like, yo, you need to drink more water and shit. Like they always complain, but I, I don't have that issue.

Starting point is 00:04:10 Honestly. Yeah. I'm just the hydrated guy straight up. Really? Yeah. Oh wow. I'd say so. That's good.

Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah. I think it's good. Do you like to swim though? Um, if it's hot out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not the best swimmer, but I'll get in there do a little front crawl. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:27 A little doggy paddle. Yeah. I'm not the best swimmer. I'm usually kind of in the urban section of the, of the, or whatever, you know, the What does that mean? Like people that can't swim? I don't know. I wouldn't say that, but I would say like, yeah, if they had like a Memphis area of the pool,

Starting point is 00:04:42 I think that's kind of what I'm usually hanging out at, you know, like, I feel you. When I get into the deep end, it is like, I mean, I, I'm swimming with every, my legs become arms. I'm using every, it's almost like I'm trying to stay out of the water. Okay. You know, I feel you. So, um, Kyle Foreguard,

Starting point is 00:04:57 thanks for being here, man. Appreciate it, bro. Yeah. Good to see you, dude. So, um, I just wanted to start some of my audience and some people in the world, I think you hear milk all the time, right? So just what is it? Um, I guess there's, there's different layers to milk.

Starting point is 00:05:12 I guess what like the content side, milk is like, you know, it's a group of guys basically just doing stupid shit. I guess people say that word. This generation's jackass, which is like a huge compliment. I'd say too. But I mean, I think they do more like crazier stunts. Like shit we could never do. And we're more like kind of pranks and partying and just honestly,

Starting point is 00:05:31 just like vlogging our life type shit. And yeah, we have a big YouTube channel that has like almost 8 million subscribers now, which we started 10 years ago. Wow. So we have that. We're just uploading funny shit on Instagram, YouTube. And yeah, the kind of, I think what separates us is like, we never really made a lot of money off YouTube because we were quote unquote R rated.

Starting point is 00:05:52 Oh, cause they flag it. Cause they flagged it. Yeah. So, you know, everyone complains now like, oh, I don't make money off YouTube. But to me, that's like a old song and dance. Like we've been dealing with that for like our whole career. So for me, that's like repetitive to hear now. So, but it was kind of a blessing in disguise because we had to get smart and kind of build

Starting point is 00:06:08 businesses around our content in order to like, you know, fund our operation. Right. So I think the fact that we weren't making money, like our fans really, no one understood it. They're like, why? Like, why can't they just find ads that are like 18 plus or some shit? But there was no ads ever. So we kind of just started our own businesses, like merch.

Starting point is 00:06:28 And yeah, I think people really fucked with it. You know, we were kind of like the underdogs. Ah, I see. So yeah, there was a, yeah, cause like the send it full send all of that. That became a lot of y'alls. That was like one of the merch lines, right? Yeah. Full send.

Starting point is 00:06:39 But that's like something that I don't know if we invented it, but we kind of like coined it. Yeah. And shit. And we started saying it in videos and then it kind of became something bigger than us. Yeah. Oh, I was at a funeral one time and the kid was, yeah, it was like a, like a 22 year old dude who's getting buried. And his stepdad was like, send him.

Starting point is 00:06:58 He sent it? Yeah. Yeah. I was like, damn bro. Fuck, that funeral is probably lit. I was like, fucking turn up dude. Dude, I was at a funeral one time and they, the DJ or whatever had like a stroke or something in there, dude.

Starting point is 00:07:13 And he like, when he hit the machine, it played like a Nelly song in the fucking, in the service, you know? What? It was that song like apple bottom, do you know what I'm talking about? That's low by T-Pain. Oh, sorry. So that's what it was. It was, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:26 So everybody's just sitting there and people's crying and stuff and fucking Randall's dead, dude. And suddenly you just hear a fucking apple. And people are like, what's going on? And people are like yelling or like kind of pointing over that area and the guy in there, I mean, it's sad, but he'd had a stroke, you know? And he like, yeah. Cause he was just, you know, running though, I guess he had an electric organ or whatever,

Starting point is 00:07:46 you know, but that's, I don't know, God sometimes like has like funny stuff he does. Um, so how did an elk start? I just, because I think there's a lot of audience that doesn't know, you know? So I just want my audience to, sometimes I'll do the best job of like getting to know who the guest is and where they're at, you know? Um, yeah, it started, I mean, I've just been making videos ever since I was young, like grade five, grade six, just like fucking around with the camera, making like funny shit and then like little, even like short films.

Starting point is 00:08:16 And then, um, just uploading them on Facebook and shit like that. I probably, honestly, if we found the Facebook ones, I think I'd be canceled for sure. Like, you know, the humor back then too, like, there's like, yeah, you probably do, but like gay jokes could fly and shit, like crazy shit. I remember what we were doing, but, um, shit like that, just messing around with friends, making funny skits and shit. And then getting into YouTube, um, and in high school, I was kind of always good at video, like all sides of video, like the filmmaking side too, like editing, directing and shit like that.

Starting point is 00:08:47 You have to have your touch on it. I think especially if you're creative, you have to be able to do that kind of stuff. That was the thing with YouTube too. Everyone that was coming up, like you got to be multi-layered. You got to have the on-camera shit and then you got to also be able to be your own producer, right? That's all the YouTubers that make it kind of do both. Yeah. So I was good at both.

Starting point is 00:09:04 I always knew I was going to do something in film, um, and I was like applying to go to film school and shit and, um, but we started uploading shit on YouTube and it slowly started getting traction, like 10K views and then 50K views. So huge, remember your first 10K? Bro, it's sick. And there was this thing, um- Did you jerk off, you think? Did I jerk off to the views?

Starting point is 00:09:24 I mean, not two of them, but when you saw- I think I might have jerked to my first YouTube check. It was like a grand. Probably. That thing's damp because- Bro, it was lit and it was like, uh, it was called like the YouTube Partner Program. And I saw like other YouTubers, they were like making a living off YouTube. And I was like, no fucking way you can like make a living off YouTube.

Starting point is 00:09:45 Like you just get paid to upload fucking YouTube videos. Like that sounds like the dream to me. So we kept applying and we kept getting denied. And then eventually we got it. So we would start making like a thousand bucks a month, two thousand bucks a month, you know, like just enough to kind of like, you know, just fund some shit, like do videos and shit. And then- But then you're a business at that point.

Starting point is 00:10:05 You become a businessman. Yeah, I guess so, right? Like in a way, it's like busy, you know, it's like you start to create something, it makes some money. And then that's when you're like, okay, now this is a business. Yeah, so I was in film school and shit and I told my parents, I was like, I think the videos were getting like, you know, hundred thousand views. And I was like, yo, I think if I want to ever do, be my own boss and do anything in this fucking like

Starting point is 00:10:27 genre or whatever, I think this is the way to go. Just like build my own shit, be my own boss. And then I can kind of do whatever I want when I kind of make it, right? And what was their response to that? Were they- They believed in me because yeah, they kind of believed in me and they saw like the money coming in. I think it was like blind faith, to be honest, which is cool. Like a lot of people say like my parents never fucking supported me, but mine was like the opposite.

Starting point is 00:10:50 Wow. So it was pretty cool. But and then we moved to LA, I worked at a golf course. So I saved up like all summer, just fucking slaving at the golf course. And were you meeting, was there some cool people you would see at the golf course? Oh yeah, it was like all my buddies. I think like actually, yeah, four people that work for us now, they worked for me, they worked with me at the golf course.

Starting point is 00:11:10 Really? I got like six of my Canadian buddies. Yeah. From back home, and they all work with us now. They all live in Cali too, which is sick. Yeah. Yeah, the golf course was lit though. We need more Canadian imports too, because it's kind of not fair.

Starting point is 00:11:21 Mexican does all these people. There's so many importing of Mexicans, right? Right, it's like- There's a lot of Canadians though too. Yeah, but I'd love to see a ton of them just rush over the woods at one point. You know what I'm saying? Like one of those, what's it called? Those, what did Trump call it?

Starting point is 00:11:36 When like a shit ton of them come across the border once- Oh yeah, like the migra- Fuck, what's the word? Like a cumpleanus. Huh? Like a wave? No, he called it something like- It was a really good name.

Starting point is 00:11:45 It was? Yeah. Can you look it up for a sec? I think it's like a quaint senior. I don't know, it depends on how old they are. But yeah, one of those, there's like a huge- That would be pretty cool. Dude, if you had a bunch of Canadians roll in, dude.

Starting point is 00:11:58 We should kind of organize that. And then they had to fight in fucking like Ohio or something. Yeah. And then what, like ICE has to go to the Canadian border and like keep everyone out. That'd be pretty cool. Dude, how weird will it get when we have to hire ISIS to come protect our borders? ISIS or ICE? Oh, both probably.

Starting point is 00:12:14 I mean, it's getting pretty dicey down there. We had a border patrol agent on and he said it's just crazy. He said it's- Really? Bro, he said it's bananas. He said, well, first of all, the cartels own a lot of the land by the border, or they like hypothetically own it, right? So if you're bringing across an, I don't know what you call it,

Starting point is 00:12:33 illegal alien, a migrant, somebody who's coming in, right? Then you have to pay those, the cartels have to be paid for you to use that part of the land to get to the border. So there's all- Really? So there's like a whole, there's little levels of business that are going on on that side, right? And then a lot of times that you pay a certain amount and they just guarantee that they'll get

Starting point is 00:12:53 you to the border. It's like- So this is like Mexicans paying to come to the U.S. Right. Wow. And then you got to pay, it's like an extra, like sometimes they'll hit you at the last minute, it's like two or more, if you want to get out, you're like, what the- So the cartels making money off all these people traveling, trying to like escape to the U.S.

Starting point is 00:13:10 Right. So it's just a whole fucking money grab. It's a huge racket and then a lot of times they'll get people there and then they, if they get busted, a lot of times the problem that the guy was saying was that they don't, there's no prosecution, there's no follow-up by the U.S. So the border police are like last or whatever, I don't know how they have to do it now, but then they don't get prosecuted. So like a month later, it's the same dude running across with like-

Starting point is 00:13:35 That shit to me is like, I'm Canadian too, but I mean, it's so crazy that the U.S. like isn't allowed to have like a border. I don't know, it's so, to me like, it's so dumb how people don't understand that. Like it's not like you're racist or anything, it's just like- No. Every country has to have a border. Yeah, you have to have like a organized system. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:55 Like Ronald Reagan had a, there was, I think it was during the Reagan administration, and maybe Zach, you can look this up where they had, you got to sponsor someone who was coming across. So say you were a family that could take care of yourself or that was big hearted, you know, you could say, okay, we're going to sponsor Echther, you know, or Oscar, you know, and he's going to come stay with us. And we're going to, you know, he's going to have like a, not like a parole officer, but almost like this social parole officer here in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:14:23 So that there's a level of connection. So then like the, the ICE or whoever the, the authorities would have this American person that's connected to the person who's coming over. Right. So it's kind of like a program, you know. Yeah. I mean, you got to have some sort of system, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:40 Amnesty for illegal immigrants. Let me see it at the nations. Yeah. So basically, Ronald Reagan cracked down on that, but he did have a thing that if you were in there before 1982, you had amnesty, which is kind of not protocol for the right typically, but I think you're right. He did have like a program where you kind of sponsored people. There was a program.

Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. Anyway, it's just been interesting what went on down there. But, um, okay. So we have Nelk, you guys get it put together in Canada, right? Yeah. And then you're doing good. Now at that point when you roll out of here and you decide to come to LA, did your whole family come?

Starting point is 00:15:10 No, it was myself, Jesse, who used to be with us and two other guys. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Jesse came with us too. And yeah, I think I was like 19 at the time. I'm 28 now. So it was almost 10 years ago. It's crazy to think of, bro.

Starting point is 00:15:25 And yeah, we like just going to LA, you know, like landing at the airport, you see the palm trees and shit, like, and, um, yeah, we were pretty broke at the time. Like we saved up money and shit. But also if you're Canadian, you can't sign a full year lease because like you don't have a sin number or anything like that. So we got rinsed with the fucking like short-term rental shit too. So it was like kind of expensive to stay, you know? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah. Cause they bite you pretty hard on that. Yeah. So, so we had to deal with that too. And then, but yeah, we, we, we hit like our first like viral video. We did like the Coke prank on cops. I don't know if you've ever seen that one. We put like a bunch of Coca-Cola in the trunk of a car.

Starting point is 00:16:02 And then we like got put, we like parked in a suspicious area. And then we told the cops we had cocaine and they arrested us. And then they saw the Coca-Cola. That one has got like 50 million views now. Fuck, it's so crazy. Yeah. That was our first big one. What is something like that gets 50 million views earn you like, what can it earn you?

Starting point is 00:16:19 I don't think we didn't make anything off that. Wow. But theoretically, I guess 50 mil. I mean, some people make a thousand per million at the lowest, but you could make, you can make like 5,000 per million. So that could be anywhere from 50K to 250K. Wow. But then it also does get your name out there, which also has just as much value.

Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. For sure. Either way, there's a lot of value with it. Yeah. I think, I think honestly, we might not even be here if we got paid off YouTube. Cause you get really comfortable too, right? A lot of those kids fell off that like they were making a lot of money off YouTube. And now they're kind of nowhere to be found.

Starting point is 00:16:53 So I hope they like saved up money and shit. Yeah. Or you knock a chick up. You think it's a wrap. Yeah. Exactly. Um, you definitely kind of get used to that. Um, okay.

Starting point is 00:17:02 So then at what point does kind of the, the podcast, you guys become this, do you get And then I think we just like, we did a six months LA, six months Canada, six months LA. Did you had to? Cause we had to. Dang. You can only be in the country for six months. And also we couldn't really afford it. So we'd go back to Canada, live at our parents house.

Starting point is 00:17:19 And shit always slowed down when we went home. Really? Cause you're not around like like minded people and shit. Like you're in LA and you're like, dude, we went to a party once with fucking like, our first time there. Like we ended up at like P Diddy's house. Yeah. And fucking like, you see like Bieber and Kendall Jenner and like French Montana and

Starting point is 00:17:37 shit. Just like random ass people like. Prince is a nice guy. Yeah. He's cool. Yeah. Um, so it's just like, and then you go back home and it's just like, you know what I mean? You're going to visit your buddy at this farm or some shit.

Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. Fucking Arnold got a new cat. It's not the same as P Diddy, you know? Yeah. It's like people watching animals, fuck, and they invite you over. Everyone's watching hockey back home and shit. Yeah. It's more chill people are drinking in the garage or whatever, you know, everybody's afraid

Starting point is 00:18:00 to beat their wife, that kind of shit, you know, typical Canadian shit. Um, yeah, that had, so that had to be fucking wild then because you get so amped up. You guys are cruising and you go back home. Yeah. Now, but people started to look at you guys as like fricking young legends when you got back home. They did. Yeah, it was cool. I mean, you go home fucking, you're the hometown hero type shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:22 All the chicks that you couldn't smash. You're still not smashing them yet, but you're getting closer. Every time you go back home, you get a little, little closer. You're still like, this guy's a loser, but yeah. But yeah, it was cool. But yeah, one time I think we went home and we're almost just like, we almost just quit. Cause we, it just like, we weren't getting views at the time too. And it was just tough.

Starting point is 00:18:42 Um, but then we just kind of, we, this is when pranks were like a thing too. I don't know if you followed it, but like, you know, like Vitaly and Roman Atwood. It was like a whole thing. He almost killed a hooker. Yeah. Roman's a buddy, Dennis Rodey, those guys. He did almost kill a hooker. Yeah. Was it a hooker?

Starting point is 00:18:55 I mean, I don't know. Somebody said he bit the neck open of a hooker. Can we look that up? He just did. I think I saw a little bit. I love Vitaly. He's, he's really nice guy. But yeah, he, he just like shroomed out a little bit.

Starting point is 00:19:06 I think he has that Russian element. Yeah. He's just a nut bar. Like he was always a nut. Yeah. But I love Vitaly. His videos were so funny. He's one of the persons that like inspired me too, but that was sad to see.

Starting point is 00:19:17 It was crazy, right? It's fuck, bro. Yeah. I don't know what he was on. I would assume he probably got into drugs. I mean, he obviously is a guy that likes to go hard. Russian people, they want to do like a lot of, it seems like kind of butt activities and drugs.

Starting point is 00:19:31 Yes. And by, you know, it's like they fucking don't. It's like somebody came in at night and fucking made it, took a slice of their brain out and made a sandwich with it, you know, and they're missing a fucking. It's like a, I can't even explain it. We're actually going to Russia this week. Yeah, I heard that actually. We're going to Dagestan.

Starting point is 00:19:49 Damn. So that's like out of the danger zone. I think it's like 20 hour flight away from Ukraine. It doesn't sound like it's out of the danger zone. I think it is. I mean, I don't know. We're going to find out, but we're going to link with Hasbulla. You know him?

Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. I've never met him. Yeah. He's a cool little dude. Is he? He's really cool. Yeah. He's funny, but I don't know, just when we went to Abu Dhabi, just the, like he's very,

Starting point is 00:20:14 I don't know, it's like he's his own boss. You would assume, I mean, you're kind of judging him. You think like he's like kind of like a little baby, but like he's not. He's fucking, he's whipping out his phone, like going live and like he's holding his phone like this, like swiping around, like he's doing stuff. He's on it. Yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 00:20:30 It's interesting. Is it hard to not treat him like a kid? Dude, I felt bad for him. Like when we went to the UFC, it was just like, I mean, this guy walks in a room. Every single person in the room, like, you know, if you're a male, male, female, young or old, they're all asking him for a photo. Even babies, even a two year old would come up to him. Everyone wants a photo with him.

Starting point is 00:20:48 He's just like this, this guy, you know, and I actually, I saw him. I was like, holy shit. I feel bad, bro. Like this guy is like photos everywhere he goes. Right. Yeah. People probably picking them up and shit too. I know little people hate when you pick them up too.

Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah. I think it unsettles their system. Google that if we can pick up a little one. Just even like really short people. Like I used to have this buddy that was short growing up and he was the nicest guy, but like if someone picked him up, he'd fucking hate it. He just like one time someone picked him up and then like they put him down and he just fucking snuffed them in the face.

Starting point is 00:21:23 That should be a UFC fight where they just take small people. Somebody picks them up and then sets them both each day. That's what I thought was going to happen because Hasbulla has a nemesis too, right? Oh yeah. That little guy, huh? And the little guy has the same thing as him or it's a child. I don't know what the condition is or whatever it is, but no, but it's the same thing. Wow.

Starting point is 00:21:42 Same thing. So he's like 20 or 21, whatever. And they actually don't like each other. Oh yeah. So like they need to fight. Yeah. They've been saying it for years. This little guy is fucking handsome though kind of, huh?

Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. He's a little better looking. Yeah. Somebody said he was playing like a young Babe Ruth. He kind of looks like that. He looks like El Chapo kind of. And the guy on the right, he's boys with Ronaldo. Ooh.

Starting point is 00:22:03 And then Hasbulla's boys with Khabib. So. Fuck. It's interesting, bro. It's kind of cool though now since there's a lot of celebrity boxing that I could see is they get older. They could do a tag match or they could do, you know what I'm saying? It's all going to, everything's going to end in the ring now in a weird way.

Starting point is 00:22:20 Because he got a UFC deal too. Hasbulla, right? Did he really? Yeah. Oh wow. I think he's going to be in like the video game or some shit. Oh, that's great. But.

Starting point is 00:22:28 That's wild. Can you imagine that pay-per-view? I can't even imagine. I would watch him fight a cat, dude. I saw a fucking get attacked by two cats one time, bro. Really? Yeah. Down here in Ramosa.

Starting point is 00:22:41 Oh, it was fucking crazy, dude. They, it's just so much more of a. Like house cats? Oh yeah. Okay. I mean, that's like us fighting a lion. I don't know. My butts are scrappy.

Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah. But it's still the same thing of a fucking. What did he do? He must have, he must have destroyed the cats. He went hard. He didn't do, I mean, he didn't do great, but he didn't do bad. He got scratched up a little bit. Oh, definitely, dude.

Starting point is 00:23:01 Two cats. It was two cats. It was 4 p.m. You should have filmed that. This was before they even had. You didn't think to jump in? They did. Oh, dude, you were, you were honestly, you were laughing.

Starting point is 00:23:13 The rest of your body didn't work. It's so hard. It's hard to be laughing hysterically in like, I think, actively jump. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But God, yeah, that was beautiful, dude. It's not often you see shit like that.

Starting point is 00:23:27 It's kind of like a sunset in a way. What? The two cats attacking the shit? Yeah. Just seeing them all fight. It is. It's just like a part of life, I guess, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. For them, and you don't realize it as a regular dude, you see a cat, you're like, oh, whatever, you know, pussy, some people, you know, you know, nobody would say that, but even some people will. But, um, but yeah, you see a cat, you don't think about it, but a fucking little person, even if they come over to your house, dude, and there's a, uh, there's like a one of those wiener dogs, dude, it's on 100%. Now that's a fair fight.

Starting point is 00:23:59 I think like little person versus wiener dog, just because of the, the, the inability of the wiener dog to probably circle as easily, you know? I don't know. I think you're not giving enough credit. I know, I know a few little people and they're fucking, they're kind of strong, bro. Yeah. Like they always have like big upper bodies, dude. You noticed that?

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Starting point is 00:26:43 That's RocketMoney.com slash Theo. Yeah, I used to watch that show, Little People Big World all the time. Did you ever see it? No. Or hear about it? It was like this family, and I actually used to do a bit about this. It was a family that owned a pumpkin patch, which was insane because it was like the biggest vegetable in the world, right?

Starting point is 00:26:59 So like, there was like a family of small people in Oregon and they owned a pumpkin patch. Can you bring that up, Zach? There they are, and half the family was little, and they slank pumpkins, and the tall dude smashes, I think. So he's the only tall guy. Yeah, and the sister too was tall, I think. Damn. Yeah, but they would like...

Starting point is 00:27:26 That'd be interesting. Like, I know being a little person would be weird, but what if you, like, your father was like a little person and you weren't? Oh. Do you know what I mean? I've never thought about that. I've never seen that before, actually. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:27:38 That's just like kind of interesting. Yeah, this was a big show for a long time, and you just follow the family, but it was... And the father and mother always had discrepancies, but yeah, they had, and they made that one other son who was regular-hided. But yeah, that'd be so wild if your dad was little, because you always feel like you were probably going... Like, he's trying to ground you and shit, and you're like, dad, watch your tone and shit. Right?

Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like, I think one time, you're like, no way. You're just shaking. Like, dad, just step aside. Like, you're not going to do shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:11 It's kind of hot in here. Are you hot? I'm good. Okay. So take us through what happens then. So how does the podcast kind of start? Do you partner up with someone once you guys start getting all this traction? How do you kind of like get your business to the next level?

Starting point is 00:28:23 Because now you're on the Forbes list, right? Yeah. Last year. For 30 under 30? Yeah. That's unreal. I don't know. I actually don't know what that means, but I don't know.

Starting point is 00:28:34 It's kind of political, but hey, I'll fucking take it, right? Yeah. I don't know how it works. Like... And is that even you in that picture? That's me. That's crazy. It doesn't even look like you.

Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah. I think that was a few years ago. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what Forbes 30 under 30 is, but it sounds good, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:51 It sounds amazing, but it's like how do you... A lot of chicks hit me up about it and shit, so... Oh, yeah. Yeah. It sounds good. Well, I don't know how I got it, but fuck it. But how... So how do you get from where your channel is going well?

Starting point is 00:28:59 How do you guys are doing well to turn that into a bigger business? I guess the big play for us was the happy dad stuff, for sure. Our merch was always killing it, too. Oh, yeah. Our merch was killing it, but yeah, happy dad's something that I've definitely always wanted to do, because my whole goal is to, yeah, I just want to build a big, long-term business that could outlive me or outlive anyone part of the crew, you know? Just build something bigger.

Starting point is 00:29:29 But yeah, happy dad, we always wanted to do our own alcohol, because we're always drinking and shit, drinking in the videos, so we either wanted to get a deal or start our own. And we were repping Corona a lot at the time, but we were too edgy to get a deal from Corona. Which is crazy, because Corona's Mexico, it's like, have you fucking been to Mexico? I know, right? Yeah. There's glass in the sand. But no, the alcohol industry, it's so political and so, in terms of advertising, so I understand,

Starting point is 00:29:58 but it kind of sucked. Yeah, we wanted to do something with Corona, but they never did it. And then a few other people approached us, we used to be like WME, and they were trying to get us to start an alcohol, but it never went anywhere. And then I met John and Sam, John and Sam Shahidi at dinner, and they were interested in working with us, and they said, yo, is there any way we can help, anything you guys need help with? And I just told them straight up, I was like, yo, I want to start a fucking alcohol.

Starting point is 00:30:25 I was like, if you guys could do it, if you guys want to project manage that for us, I was like, let's fucking do it. So they found these two guys, the Butow brothers and their family, they've been in like the alcohol industry, they're big drinkers, for sure. We started taste testing it and shit, and it took us like a whole year. So we started from like a point, tested it, said, change this, change this, change this. Another test, same shit. And it took us like eight different times, over like a year, to get to like the product

Starting point is 00:30:52 that we have now that we really like. And yeah, that's just going crazy. Yeah. Oh yeah, people love having them. You see it, all of you guys do a lot of those great like drops and stuff where like you guys will show up somewhere, Steve will do it, Steve shows up somewhere. It's a big shake and hands business alcohol. It's like an old school business.

Starting point is 00:31:09 Is it? Like, yeah, it's all about like meeting store owners, meeting bar owners, like you got to go and put in the work physically, and like shake hands, meet people, like the social media aspect is one thing, but like, you got to show up places, you got to travel. It's pretty crazy. It's an old school business. Has it been a lot as once that became part of it, did things get a lot busier than you expected?

Starting point is 00:31:31 For sure. And then, because it used to just be milk, we'd upload a video like every week. But then yeah, with happy dad, and then now the podcast too. It's like a lot of traveling moving around, especially with the pod. Like if we want to get the best guests, sometimes you only get 24 hours notice. Yeah. Like if fucking Elon Musk says like, yo, I want to do this, like we got to fly to Texas, jump on a plane, wait around for a few days, right?

Starting point is 00:31:54 You just got to be on the ball. And be prepared. Did you guys have to wait for Elon? We did. Yeah. It was a funny story. I told it before, but what happened was like we, I think it was Sam's birthday. So we took a jet to Texas, and then we had no service.

Starting point is 00:32:10 So right when we landed, we got, it was so crazy because John got like two texts, Steve's channels deleted, like YouTube called them and Steve's channels deleted. And the second message was Elon messaged him and says, why is my security telling me that one of the guys on your crew is a security threat? And we're like, what? Like, what are they talking about? And then they said like, Steven Dylan Artis. And we're like, what?

Starting point is 00:32:36 And then, then we kind of put it together, Steve in the past when Bitcoin crashed, he made like a funny video like shitting on Elon and he like blew up a Tesla and I think he was like, he had like a mannequin of Elon and he was like shooting guns at him and shit. So like, I guess the security, they don't know, right? They don't know. Right. And they probably think that's fucking. They just see this guy shooting a fucking assault rifle at Elon and shitting and asking

Starting point is 00:33:02 the flight, the pilots, like, what's his flight schedule and shit. So they saw that and they basically like Elon's like, our whole team was set up at his house. Like they were with his kids and like his one of his wives or whatever. And they had to leave and pack up and leave. And then Steve was like, I feel so bad. Like, and he was also like so down about his channel. So he's like, yo, I'm going to sit this one out. Like I can't even do this anyway.

Starting point is 00:33:27 Like I'm so pissed off. And then we kept messaging Elon back and forth and like it went down like 48 hours later. He just ran him. He was like, maybe he kept, he just sounds like one or two word answers with periods every time, only by email too. And then eventually he's just like, all right, let's do it. And then he just pulled up and he stayed for four hours. But it almost, it almost didn't go down.

Starting point is 00:33:51 And when he pulled up, who went to meet him first? Did you just, you were just sitting in that room right there and he just walked in just with one guy. Wow. Just walked in and he probably crushed like six happy dads. No. Yeah. He drinks a lot.

Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. He's definitely an undercover partier. Or I don't even know about undercover, but. Oh, I've heard some, I heard a great story. A buddy of mine went to like a party as whenever he worked, well, I think whenever he was seeing like Amber Herds, right? And he like asked him if he wanted some spaghetti or something. Okay.

Starting point is 00:34:22 He asked my buddy if he wanted some spaghetti and he's like, yeah, I'll have some spaghetti. And so then he just like took some off of his plate on a fork and like put it in my buddy's mouth. Really? Instead of like making him some spaghetti, like, you know, I think it seemed like you want me to get you some spaghetti. He's a different kind of guy, clearly, right? And maybe it is more efficient.

Starting point is 00:34:42 Maybe just all about efficiency, you know, it's just like, it's probably more efficient if I just give you some spaghetti that I have and see if you want more spaghetti, then go get you a possibly wasteful amount of spaghetti, you know, but yeah, my buddy said that that was so crazy. And then there was a party where like people would just kind of go around with like a little drug cart and they had like different like. He's a big drug cart guy for sure. Oh, I think you gotta be.

Starting point is 00:35:04 He reaches his fingers in and kind of, you know, takes his time, makes a good decision. Oh, I bet he puts all the coke out of the bag and touches it and then puts it back in the bag. Probably. Oh, God, I mix this up with some Molly, but I always back home call out a rattlesnake. They do. Molly and cocaine together. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:22 Rattlesnakes. Hmm. I'm trying to think if I've ever done anything like that. No, I saw a guy get bit by a rattlesnake one time. I talked with this dude Ronnie, right? And he had some kind of, I don't know, he was impaired or something, but he couldn't do, he couldn't swallow, right? So like whenever it was like, we would do yard work together.

Starting point is 00:35:46 And so whenever, like he'd, you know, get thirsty, you'd have to give him the water and then kind of like, you know, he'd have to like kind of maneuver and more, you know. Sometimes we'd fucking put that hose in and bro and fucking forget about it. We start playing a game of pool or something and that dude's over there, half way to heaven, bro, drowning out, bro. But that was a simpler time, but so then that's really what took y'all to another business level was doing that. Yeah, I think so.

Starting point is 00:36:13 Cause then you're an alcohol brand, then you're obviously a bit, you know, you're like, you're pushing like, I mean, you guys are everywhere. That's the big play. I think that's our, I mean, I know that's our billion dollar play, hopefully multi-billion dollar play if we just keep the momentum going. Yeah. So when it comes down to, we still got to make funny videos. We still got to do what we've always been doing, but I think that's our big play for

Starting point is 00:36:34 sure. Does it feel harder to evolve? Like, do you think about how things need to evolve? Because I find a lot of times I'm like, do I stay in this space that I'm in and where things seem good and comfortable? Do I also recognize that like my audience will be getting older as I get older and how do I manage that and how do I even evolve as a person? I know it's tough, right?

Starting point is 00:37:00 And then it's like you have your own personal kind of life and your own personal feelings, but do you put that aside for the camera? Do you ever struggle with that too? Like type shit? Like what people want to see sometimes is maybe not what you're actually kind of feeling off camera type shit. I think I try to stay pretty clear on kind of what's going on, right? Because it keeps me in a space, but that's also this is a channel where it's like kind

Starting point is 00:37:24 of, it was kind of built that way, where that thing, yeah, you guys are more of like a entertainment, we're here, somebody's going to die soon, like fucking, you know, I think, I think we used to do every week on the main milk channel, which was like our vlog, whatever. But now we're just doing like once a month because it's just like, yeah, I think for me now I've done it so long to where it's not possible to do every week and it's not possible to put out a fire video every week. So for me, it's just more satisfying now to do like one good video a month, you know,

Starting point is 00:37:57 and do something crazy. Like we're going to fucking Russia and like we're going to see Hezbollah, Khabib and Islam and shit and like, I think that's like a cool video, you know, we've done so much shit. We'll still do some pranks and stuff too. But are y'all taking Stiney with you to go? He's not going because he's not, we wouldn't give him first class because it's like $15,000. I get it.

Starting point is 00:38:20 He doesn't. Yeah, but I get it. But he didn't even fly his girl first class. Wasn't there a video he's like, didn't he even fly some girl first class that was going to hang out with? He's a big, he's a big flexor that guy. Is he? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:31 I don't know if you've seen any of his shit, but yeah. He's a smaller guy. Isn't he? Yeah. He could wear a watch on his neck a bit. I can see him being that kind of guy. We're like a Rolex neck. He like, he rents chains off jewelers.

Starting point is 00:38:40 Like he's, he's a big flexor that guy. But uh, yeah, he tried, he tried, he thought that we would budge on the first class. So he told us he's like, I'm not going unless I get first class. And we're like, okay, dude, he's like, we're going to go film a fire video. Like he's out. And then he's like, oh, what? Like they don't want me to come and shit. Like you guys don't want me to come?

Starting point is 00:38:59 We're like, dude, like we can't pay 15K bro. Sorry. Like it's a lot. And he just started as like a on camera guy, right? Yeah. He was picking up Steve's underwear fucking four months ago. Here he is right there. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:11 He seems like a decent guy, huh? Yeah. He's a good guy. I like Stani. But you got to put in your work. Like you got to, you know. 15, but you don't get that out of the gate, dude, unless you, you know, unless there's like BTS fucking gay activity going on, you get that.

Starting point is 00:39:25 100%. You agree though, right? That's fair. Stani. If he's watching. Yeah. I think it's very fair, dude. If he puts in a year of work and kills it, then it's like, and kills it.

Starting point is 00:39:34 Kills it. Yeah. To get 50. I mean, that's a lot for us. Yeah. It's a lot. And it's a far flight, man. That's the thing too.

Starting point is 00:39:42 I think not just Stani, but yeah, employees are on talent. People get very comfortable, very quick. Oh, they get in the cloud and people get cloudy real quick. 100%. That's kind of a tough thing to, because I've long tried to find an assistant and it's tough to find like, uh, like I own camera apartment, you know, and it's like, it's tough because you like try to couple people and someone were kind of cloudy and like, oh, this isn't, they don't get it.

Starting point is 00:40:02 You don't have an assistant right now. Uh-uh. I feel like I have the best assistant. Really? He's like, he's gay and Brazilian. Oh, wow. I think, I think gay males make the best assistants. Gay males.

Starting point is 00:40:15 Wow. Not to be like sexist or anything, but- No, dude. Look, I'm glad. Look. Cause like, you know, like a girl, if you're a girl, like he can pick up shit, like he's still a guy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:24 So like if you have a female assistant, they'll use the female card sometimes and be like, yo, I'm not picking up that box, like type shit. So you got the guy aspect, he's strong, he can do all that shit, but then if you're like sick or some shit, the feminine side comes out and he'll, you know, he's asking me, do I want soup? Do I want tea with honey? So you got that perfect balance of like the male female. Wow.

Starting point is 00:40:45 It's, I think gay males. Dude, I love that. I think it would be nice to have- Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And now I think you also, now how tender of a gay male could you have? So he's like the gay guy too, where like, I think he's honestly like transphobic and shit too.

Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, okay. So he's like, he, you know, he doesn't like guys that like paint their nails and shit too. Yeah. So we can still like rip on gay people in front of them. Yeah. You know, we don't got to change the way we talk and shit around them too. Yeah. You can still just feel like a regular person.

Starting point is 00:41:13 Yeah. Like I think he's anti-pride and shit. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like a special type of gay guy. I like that, dude. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah. I'm trying to think of some of the- If you ever need him for a day, I'll just let me know. Yeah. If there's a big day that you need him, he's good. Yeah. I'll try. I think I might have seen him by the urinal.

Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. Same guy, tall guy? Oh, no. That's just my buddy, Gammons. Oh, the other guy, the tan one. Yeah. Yeah, he's Brazilian, yeah, dude, Brazilian and gay. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:41:40 I didn't even know they were doing that. I mean, that's a wild mix, huh? It is. Because Brazil already seems like it has a lot of just gay built into it. There's a lot of gay people in Brazil. I wouldn't think that though, but out of there is. Look it up, Zach. Most gays.

Starting point is 00:41:54 Dude, I remember we didn't, you know, they didn't have a lot of gay, because gay, being gay used to be a secret. It was like, yeah. Isn't it crazy how much has changed? I mean, what was it not? When did it become legal in the U.S., 2000, Obama legalized it, right? Probably. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:16 It was Obama. Yeah, it was during Obama. But I think in the black community, they're not as accepting of gays in a lot of ways. They call them punks. Yeah. You know? Well, all the rappers would like, they've dropped like homophobic shit all the time. Like Lil Wayne's dropped it so much.

Starting point is 00:42:32 They can be 50 cents. Boots is always on it. Yeah. Yeah. Man, come on, man. Boots is like a ridiculous dude. Yeah. I guess black people don't like gay people.

Starting point is 00:42:41 Yeah. I think they just don't. I think it's just, but that's why they need that conquistador gay dude. That's what I loved about Tiger King. It was like, all right, now we got to fuck. Because he's gay, right? Oh, yeah. Now we got to, there's a fucking fly in the soup right here, dude.

Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah. He was shooting people and fucking and doing drugs and fucking, you know, eating tiger meat and shit. He was doing it, man. He was like, I'm a fucking gay boy, you know, he was like a Wild West gay. That's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:43:13 Do you think there's a lot of, and I know you probably see this more because you're getting, I mean, you were, how much is your business worth now? Do they say that? I think happy dad alone this year will be worth 250 million. Wow. Evaluation. And that's awesome. And congratulations.

Starting point is 00:43:32 But there's a lot of wealth induced homosexuality. What does that mean? It means you get so wealthy and you've had so many opportunities with women. That you kept turned gay? It happened in Rome. It happened in Rome. The people were so powerful. They'd had sex with all the women that they started having sex with men.

Starting point is 00:43:50 Because you hear that a lot in my Hollywood and shit, right? Yeah. Like I heard like P. Diddy's gay or some shit or like, yeah, you hear P. Diddy. Who else do you hear a lot of times? Vin Diesel. Yeah. Really? Cause they just get bored.

Starting point is 00:44:04 They could get any chick they want. So it's like a new challenge. Like it's like a power thing. I think so. Well, I think that's part of it. It's like once you get so much women's with the last thing you can, you know, you try to sneak into a dude's butt that don't want you, you know, not to make it so, but it's like, what's the last thing on earth that I can't get some straight dude?

Starting point is 00:44:24 You know, that's, that's, that's pretty weird. I hope I don't get that successful then. Or maybe, maybe I do. That's what I'm saying. It's like, at a certain point, you're like, yeah, I think it just happens. It's like, you know, because you've had everything else, you know, you kind of get to this other place, um, which all, which, with, uh, the podcast, with the full send podcast, right? You guys have had a decent amount of turnover on there.

Starting point is 00:44:51 I have care to say, you think was that most, oh yeah, for sure. What has it been like? Is it hard to keep posts? Is it that it's a challenging show? Is it that I know you guys travel around a lot and so people need to be here and there? What has been like, what has been some of the kind of journey with that? I think at the beginning, we were just kind of just having fun with it, trying new people and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:45:16 Obviously we had the one incident with Bob, which like I kind of already talked about and shit like that. Oh yeah. I remember that. Yeah. That kind of like, it is what it is. It's a really like big host change, but we've subbed in like Salim or like Steve, like, which we'll still continue to do.

Starting point is 00:45:33 And now we got Brad that is on it most of the time too. So it, yeah, it is tough. I think, I think we recorded like four episodes of the pod before we even released it because we just didn't know anything about it. Like we were just having fun with it, right? And then we finally found one that we liked, um, but yeah, it is, it's interesting. The podcast is fun though. I love it.

Starting point is 00:45:53 It's something that I could do no matter how old I get. Yeah. Right. And you get to meet so many fucking cool people. Yeah. Like Elon Trump, like, yeah, what was that like when, when, when, um, once Elon sat down with you, were you, do you find is there a lead person who kind of takes the lead and breaks the ice?

Starting point is 00:46:13 Do you kind of wait back? It was, it was, I kind of took lead a bit on that one, but yeah, it was a bit awkward at the beginning because I was like, you're kind of nervous too, right? Yeah. I'm like some fucking TV show host or some shit too. Like it's Elon Musk. I'm, I'm pretty fucking nervous. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:29 I use Twitter. He, you know, it's like, I use the car. Yeah. It's like, I can't know how to get, I still can't know how to get into a Tesla. I know, right? I still can't. I don't, do you like Teslas or not? I think once the truck comes out, if it ever does, and that's the part that pisses me off

Starting point is 00:46:43 the most is that he hasn't brought the truck out. And I don't know why it's like, what the fuck's going on? I just don't like Teslas. Yeah. I think they just look kind of whatever. Yeah. I don't know. They look kind of like a bad, it looks like if you get in there, it's going to take you

Starting point is 00:46:58 to meet some dude. Yeah. It's just, I just don't fuck with Teslas. I don't know. I guess the whole energy thing, but I, maybe I'm a scumbag. I just don't give a shit. Yeah. I don't want to run out of battery on the road.

Starting point is 00:47:09 Like. Yeah. You also don't want to tell, you don't want to hike to somebody's house in the middle that I can be like my batteries down or whatever. It's just not, it's not for me. I rather just go to the gas station. Maybe I'm fucking up the world, but it is what it is, I don't know. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:47:22 Sometimes I pour a little gas on the outside of my fucking car, dude. You know? I'm not always a good guy. Yeah. Like I like to fucking smell like gas too. That smell too. Oh. Dude, if you sit in one of those old cars, it's like a Chevelle or Chevrolet or, you

Starting point is 00:47:36 know, Chevy, and you fucking those ones that just, when you get in, it's like that. And you always, you always hate, you're always dread going to the gas station. Yeah. Like you're like, fuck, I got to get gas. But then when you're actually there and you're filling it up. Kind of nice. You're kind of chilling. It's kind of therapeutic.

Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? But I hate getting gas. Like when I'm like, fuck, I got to get gas. But then when you're there, you're like, this is kind of dope, actually. Like you're just chilling. You know? Yeah, it's nice.

Starting point is 00:48:00 And you, sometimes you feel like, oh, maybe I'll meet a chick here. Never happens. Never. But sometimes. Never. There's like a chance. It's always just some dude, like some dude who looks kind of like a mixed guy. And he's, I feel like he's in like a cellar or something and he's fucking pissed or he's

Starting point is 00:48:14 busy. Yeah. You know? And he's like, dude, I'm like, how, how's every Middle Eastern dude angry? I know. Like, can we get like seven Middle Eastern dudes that are fucking pleased? I know. Um, you can't fuck around with Middle Eastern people.

Starting point is 00:48:28 Dude, they're serious, man, because I think they've been through like, they live in sand. Right. To live, to live at the beach, but nowhere near the water is fucking. And it's not like Arizona sand or like, no, it's like sand, like a lot of sand, right? Yeah. Some of it's quick sand, dude. Can you imagine some of it's like, Hey, guess what's in here? More sand.

Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah. That'd be fucked. Dude, that's like when that might be the worst way to die. Oh, oh, yeah. Would that be worse than drowning? Do you make a video on the way out? I don't think you have time. I think you got a couple minutes.

Starting point is 00:49:07 How fast does quicksand do if we can look at, uh, yeah, that's a good question that you're standing there and quicksand, it starts to go and I think the suction kind of gets you pretty good. So, and the more you move, the quicker it goes, at least if you're drowning, you have a chance too. Right? Like you fucking, you can get through it, but quicksand, you're just, you're fucked. You got to make a video and then you have to throw your phone far so it doesn't go down

Starting point is 00:49:31 with you. You see one centimeter per second, one centimeter per second. Think about that. That's pretty fast. How tall is somebody? I know. It's kind of relevant to that. It's just like one per second.

Starting point is 00:49:45 Oh, it's kind of relevant. Yeah. It's, I think it's pretty relevant. Cause then you see how many seconds you have, but I think people are like, what, 180 centimeters? So you got three minutes. Damn. Bro, that's some time, bro. We should try that.

Starting point is 00:50:00 But like if there was no way to die, do you know what I mean? That'd be like a cool challenge. It'd be a cool game show. Dude, I always wanted to make like this kind of weird kind of Japanese style game show where you get two guys to like, to like just real rural fellas, you know, people that are just, you know, that believe mostly in cum, you know, and they just eat as much as they want, right? For a couple of days.

Starting point is 00:50:22 And then you set them up each in like a tree and they both like defecate down like a, like onto a scale, right? And whoever does the most wins like something. Whoever shits the most. Yeah. But you don't see any of the shit or anything. It's like, it's all kind of hidden. Maybe you see the shadow of it kind of.

Starting point is 00:50:38 Okay. And you have like a host. So not like see through tubes. Yeah. No, nothing. It's nothing. You just see the scale and that's what's really publicized. Yes.

Starting point is 00:50:46 You see the scale and there's like a host up there asking them a couple of questions, you know, what you got left buddy, you know, come on, Ronnie, you pussy, you know, I like that. I just think that there was, I think that that would be kind of a fascinating little game show because a lot of guys, they, you know, the best thing they can do is shit. I feel like there's guys out there that they feel like that's what they fucking do. Yeah. I love, I love a good shit.

Starting point is 00:51:10 Oh, I spend, I think too much time on the shitter. Do you really? I think like, I just get like a lot of good work done there and shit. Like when you're sitting down to take a good shit, pull out the phone, like, I don't know, I'm kind of creative on the shitter too. Like I'll think of ideas there and shit. I feel like it's not a good shit unless your legs fall asleep. Like right when you start to get that tingle, you're like, all right, it's time to wipe

Starting point is 00:51:32 up. Like fucking tighten up. Yeah. Get back out in the world. 100%. Um, I remember, yeah, one time defecating, I was in Cancun and some girl, this was during spring break, came in and, um, just did sex on me right there. When you were shitting?

Starting point is 00:51:51 In the bathroom. Yeah. So that's like a bumpkin, no? I don't know. I don't know where she's from. Wow. Or I don't know who she, I don't know her last name. So you were on the shitter?

Starting point is 00:51:59 Yeah. I was on. And she started just like riding you or some shit? Yeah. It was a nightclub and I probably could have been doing drugs. I don't remember, but yeah, I remember that. That's pretty awesome. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:12 I mean, it's pretty legendary story. It was a lot. Yeah. In the moment, it was probably kind of weird. Yeah. It was a lot because I felt like it was like a setup. I'm like, nobody would do this, you know, so it feels like you're like getting set up for something.

Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah. I gotta, I gotta do that. I don't know. But, and also I think it was the nightclub and there was like kind of, they had like too many smoke machines in there. So there was like a lot of ambiance, you know, but I remember that, man, I forgot all about that, man. Praise God.

Starting point is 00:52:40 That's pretty legendary though. It was something, man. You know, you just every now and then that's something, you know, the light shines on you. You know, 100% UFC 283 is taking the MMA action to the next level this Saturday. There are two titles on the line and one bout is a historic UFC match with Figueredo facing Moreno for the fourth time. It's going to be a banger.

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Starting point is 00:55:39 Right? Yeah. It's kind of cool. I don't know. But it was cool. I said before, I personally felt like the interior is a little outdated. I feel like they could get an interior designer in there and shit. It's big and shit, it's massive, but I feel like the interior designer maybe should be

Starting point is 00:55:55 fired or something. Does it look just more faint? Does it look like? It's kind of boring. Like your dad's office? Yeah. Yeah, your dad's office type vibes and shit. But it was really cool.

Starting point is 00:56:07 We were supposed to interview Trump that time. This was right before the election too, like right before. So people were hating him then. Was it the first election or second? Yes. So people were hating him. The second election. First election.

Starting point is 00:56:19 Oh, first election. Oh, no, sorry, second. Yeah. Yeah. That's when people were really, really hating him. Yeah. Exactly. Because at first he kind of represented this underdog type of thing.

Starting point is 00:56:27 Well, you think when he ran against Clinton, people didn't hate him as much? I think people hated him more the second time. But the media also always hated him. I think that somebody else would have done a little bit better in his position if they'd had a little, I don't know if he was the best speaker. But then also, I don't know why we need the- Who, Trump's not the best speaker? I mean, he's great, but I don't know if he's, it connects to people that well.

Starting point is 00:56:54 I think he's a good speaker. I just think he has a little too much like baggage for the average person, right? Yeah. But when he made it that far, I remember when he got elected, I was like, holy shit, dude. Any of us could be president. Crazy, right? Like fucking- I don't know when thought he was going to win the first time.

Starting point is 00:57:11 I was shocked. When he first came out in the beginning, I was like, I think he's going to win. So yeah, look, we went with Dana, and then we were supposed to interview him, right? So we thought we were going to interview him. And then the last second they came in, they're like, yo, we're not doing it. And we're like, fuck, they're like, yeah, like Trump wants you guys to come into his office though, and like he wants to meet you guys and shit, and they're like, you could film it.

Starting point is 00:57:33 So we're like, all right. So we go in and like Trump's watching fucking Ted Cruz on the TV, and he's like chirping on him, like making fun of him and shit, and then they bring Trump on the TV. And he's like, look guys, look, look, look how skinny I look there. Look how skinny I look. I was just like, no way. He's exactly like TV in real life. And then he's just like, oh, look at these handsome guys, like such handsome guy, like

Starting point is 00:57:53 complimenting us and shit. It was pretty crazy. And then we went to his rally, and he pulled us up on stage for the fucking YMCA, the outro. Like you know his getaway song? He pulled us up on stage, and we ripped the YMCA with Trump. And then he feed posted it on his Instagram. And we were fucking hyped, bro. Bro, he's never been to a YMCA in his life.

Starting point is 00:58:17 I know. He loves it. He says it's the gay national anthem, right? Oh yeah. But it's just crazy that he's never, but there's no way that he's been to a YMCA. I know. But when he posted that on his Instagram, we were like, solely fuck, bro. Like we're shocked.

Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah. Just like, what the fuck just happened? We're in another air force one YMCA with Trump to like, I can't believe this shit. Like, it's kind of crazy how things can just start to happen once things get going, right? And you're like, how am I in this crazy scenario? Like I'll find myself at certain people's homes or certain environments, and I'm like, how am I involved in this? Like we're going to Paris Fashion Week next week, and like, it's like Mike Tyson, me,

Starting point is 00:58:56 Andrew Schultz, we're like going to do some runway, just like, and it's just like. Are you going to like walk the runway and shit? Yeah. Like for some company, they're paying us, you know, it's cool. That's going to be pretty sick. And also like, how, what the fuck is that even of? It's like, what? I know, right?

Starting point is 00:59:11 The opportunities that we get are so weird. And the people you get to meet, I don't think you ever, I guess you get used to it, but then you don't. Like, do you feel like used to it? Like meeting, you've met, obviously, so many cool people. I met like, recently, I met Leonardo DiCaprio one night. That was a little bit interesting, probably. I'd seen him a lot at certain events.

Starting point is 00:59:32 He's always sitting across talking real quietly to some girl. But. He's always partying and shit, right? Yeah, I don't see how he does it. But I thought that that was kind of, it was just interesting, you know, he just smiled. He's got all these lines and he just like, he has so much expression, you know. You guys had. That's cool as fuck.

Starting point is 00:59:53 What's that? He's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Cool cat. Do you know him? No, I don't know him, but yeah. He's one of my favorite actors.

Starting point is 01:00:01 He's like, you know, he's like, yeah, I mean, he's like so handsome. You're just like, you know, you're like, I'm not gay, but damn, buddy. You know, it's crazy the people you get to meet. It's fucking. Yeah. So it was all, especially with the fighting, the UFC stuff, that's the part sometimes that's like a little scary. That's, but you think so?

Starting point is 01:00:16 Why are you scared when you go there? A little bit. Cause I know, like I grew up in a neighborhood where people were always knocking the, I mean, people's dads. Like I remember the first day in our neighborhood, this dude Milford was fighting this senior citizen right in the street. Mr. Polito was his name and he threw him into a fucking ditch fire. Like into a fucking ditch fire.

Starting point is 01:00:37 What's that? It's like a, I mean, a fire and a ditch, but like, yeah, just a fire and a ditch. And um, yeah, and he threw him right in that bitch dude. And then he was the craziest part. He fucking came out that bitch dog on fire. Yeah. People were fucking cheered. Did he stop, drop and roll or just go right back and straight at him, dude.

Starting point is 01:00:58 He was like 200% Italian. He went straight fucking at him, bro. I mean, and people were so excited. People were just fucking and drinking Dr. Pepper, fucking and losing their shit. Crazy. And, uh, and yeah, I think he threw him back in, man, but we just grew up in that environment where people were always fighting. So you always knew that, you know, you, in order to get to another, a different part

Starting point is 01:01:20 of our neighborhood, getting fight this one family, it was always like, you know, there were always trolls under the bridge, you know? And so I think there's some of that energy with the, with UFC. Why do you think someone's going to press you there or like jump out of the ring? Well, the most, the people who are most enjoy pressing or being pressed are all in that building. True. And so I think it's just a risk factor and everybody in the fan is like an amateur,

Starting point is 01:01:45 you know, in the parking lot at those events, it's just fucking people beating each other's keys out of each other's hands, you know, um, UFC sick though. Who's your favorite fighter? It's so great. I love that. Some of your favorite. That fight was great.

Starting point is 01:01:59 You were there. Yeah. Yeah. That fight was insane. God. That's gotta be in the top. I don't know what, but that was, that was one of the best fights I've ever seen in my life.

Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah. That was so fucking sick to be there. How poor he pulled off the W. Yeah. And I thought he'd lie. Yeah. I think. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:20 It was, it's just fascinating to see those guys. Corey Sandhagan. I like Cheeto Vera. Um, sugar Sean, obviously, um, they might fight again, right? I know. Huh? Because I think she saw and thought he's like, Oh, I got him. It's done.

Starting point is 01:02:32 But Cheeto was like, you ain't got me yet. Yeah. That'll be a crazy fight. I know. I know. Cause Cheeto, I don't know if you can not cheat. I mean, Cheeto is just. He's fucking tough.

Starting point is 01:02:40 Yes. He's tough as fuck. He's tough. They used to call him like the monk. He just looks like scary, bro. Yeah. Dude, I went and saw Zach Bryan, the Zach Bryan concert, right? Um, I'm a huge Zach Bryan fan and I go there and I walk up kind of backstage and Cheeto

Starting point is 01:02:56 fucking Vera is there, you know? And I, you know, Cheeto speaks English good, but it's like, I don't know if it's great enough to listen to Zach Bryan and so it's like, it's kind of random, right? Oh, it was, it was the most random thing in the whole world, but we hung out at the whole time and we had a blast. So I don't know. There's so many fighters that I like, man. And then you get these guys from like, like rough, like, uh, all the Dagestanis.

Starting point is 01:03:19 Yeah. That's why I'm pumped to go see. Cause I feel like no one's kind of seen how they like live and train and shit. Right. Are y'all going to go to Khabib's home? Something like that would be. So Khabib's there. I hope we link with Khabib.

Starting point is 01:03:29 That's a maybe. Yeah. We're going to go see Islam and he's training to fight Volkanovsky. So he's five hours up in the mountains, dry from Dagestan. So he's like in the cold lakes and shit and they're like living in cabins. I've seen it on his Instagram, but I was talking to their team today and it looks like we're going to go do it. So I don't know.

Starting point is 01:03:48 We'll try to train like I'm in shit too. That's cause you need to get one of those missile launchers to and shoot it. Yeah. You know, they all have them, um, but that would be amazing, man. Yeah. I saw him jumping some ice water. I'm not sure of him. One of those guys, I don't like saw his last fight in Abu Dhabi or did you watch it?

Starting point is 01:04:05 Was that the one where he fought? Kevin Holland? No. He fought Oliver. Yeah. He's a beast Islam now. He seems like an asshole. Right.

Starting point is 01:04:14 Is that him? I don't know if he's an asshole. He seems pretty. He's kind of like, they, they play like the, they play like the modest card and shit, but they're always like dripped out in Dior and like they dress like Khabib like drips hard. Does he? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:27 He's always dripping and Islam too. Like he's got Dior kicks on and shit, but then they play the modest card like, you know, they know what they're doing. Right. I live in a sandcastle. Yeah. That's why maybe they don't, they're kind of hesitant about, they're kind of hesitant about us coming to Dagestan.

Starting point is 01:04:40 I think they don't want to see what's going on. I think they got it made over there. So I think now they're looking on Airbnb and shit and like they're going to just like rent a cabin and be like, all right, this is where we live and shit, you know, but their real house is like two blocks, Khabib's got a fucking mansion. Two mountains over. Yeah. Dude, I, that, cause yeah, I can't imagine.

Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah. For some reason with Khabib, I have this idea of him like sleeping in like his childhood bed still and his grandmother's in the other room, you know, making like cooking a rock or something. You know? Yeah. But that's what you think. But like there's no way.

Starting point is 01:05:15 Yeah. Like it's Khabib. He's loaded. Yeah. He's loaded. And there's nothing to spend money on. Nothing. He gets everything for free cause when you're famous there too, like if you're like Middle

Starting point is 01:05:27 Eastern, like royalty, that's like next level shit, right? Like when you're worshiped over there, I feel like it's different than here. Have you seen some wealth like that? Have you been around some wealth and you're like, okay, this is some, I don't know. I've been to Abu Dhabi twice and I just know those people are so proud of the people that, you know, cause Dagestan is kind of close to the Middle East too, right? It's like right on the southern part of Russia, I think. We'll see.

Starting point is 01:05:53 Yeah. Yeah. I guess. So I feel like they worship those guys too. Like he's like, especially in the Muslim like religion too, those guys are gods, like Khabib's a fucking god to those people. Yeah. So he gets everything for free probably in Abu Dhabi, Dubai, everywhere he goes like

Starting point is 01:06:07 Saudi probably. Dude, that's so crazy cause that's like a, that's a world where there's like, you know, even a shat like in the shadows, there's things going on. Everyone's going there too now, Middle East, do you notice that? I see everyone going to Dubai, Saudi Arabia, they're like low key, they're, they're taking over low key. Damn. They're coming up, bro.

Starting point is 01:06:30 I'm kind of start to wonder what's going to come up next, you know, because America's kind of become this like, it's definitely changing, huh? I think so. Well, you're a candidate. Yeah. But Canada's changing too. Canada's worse, bro. I mean, after the whole COVID shit, it was, it was bad there.

Starting point is 01:06:46 Like Canada was fully locked down for like two years. Wow. Like it was fucked. And like when you go home too, like you notice, like when I went home one time, like people like look at you and like back away, like it was like, people are brainwashed there straight up. It was very sad to see, like it was crazy. And they're so nice there, they just, they almost are willing to be more brainwashed.

Starting point is 01:07:08 But they turned into assholes quick. Yeah. Yeah. But they were very brainwashed too. Damn. Like COVID's on every TV, every news, you walk into a restaurant, it's on the TV. It's, it's, it's crazy. But I think that kind of slowed us down a little bit.

Starting point is 01:07:22 And then yeah, I think people are just too pussy in North American culture, right? Yeah. I mean, in America, it was like, I think people didn't know what to do. The media really controlled a lot of that narrative too and scared a lot of people. I think that's one thing we learned from COVID is like, wow, the media is powerful. Yeah. Like it's actually scary. Do you find?

Starting point is 01:07:40 Yeah. I mean, no tech is the new fossil fuel. That's what I say all the time. It's like whoever owns the bandwidth, that's it. You know, people keep talking about oil and all this bullshit, dude, it's like, it's whoever owns the fucking bandwidth. Did you see that new GP chat thing? Did you see that thing?

Starting point is 01:07:57 What's that? Zach, see if you can pull that up. It was, I think we were talking about it earlier. Yeah. I got to go out to dinner with Jordan one time. So he was his daughter lives in Nashville, right? So he came in and we all went to dinner and they eat meat, bro. They eat like, at the end of dinner, it was just, is he American or is he from, because

Starting point is 01:08:14 he taught in Toronto? Yeah. He's Canadian. Oh, is he? Yeah. So they eat meat and at the end of dinner, there was just literally a plate of bones in between them. Damn.

Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah. And they tell us her water. Really? And I mean, like a plate of... They're serious? But like, they just, what's just their like carnivores or something? Yeah. They're dang carnivores, dude.

Starting point is 01:08:31 They're just like North American carnivores, I guess, or you know, some type of carnivore. Yeah. Yeah. The media. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. That's one thing I just learned.

Starting point is 01:08:42 It's like, it's crazy. Like that's how I just feel like there's just got to be some like elite level of people just like... It feels like it, huh? Yeah. Cause like they just put something on a screen or like they put it on our phones and then like we look at it and like we just believe it. Like, isn't that crazy?

Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. They could put anything on our screens on our phones and you're just gonna like, you're gonna obey. It's fucking nuts. It's knowledge. Did you see that show? It's called Don't Pick Up the Phone on Netflix? No.

Starting point is 01:09:09 Okay. So this is unbelievable. So some man, right? A man was calling McDonald's, okay? Or Hardee's, but mostly McDonald's. And he would talk to the manager, right? And he would say, hey, this is so-and-so with some of the police department. We have access to you guys' closed server cameras.

Starting point is 01:09:29 We saw that a staff member had stolen some money, right? Do you have a staff member that looks like this? And they would describe the staff member. And then they would say, yeah, we do. And they would say, okay, can you have them come into the office? So this police officer is talking to the manager. The manager has a staff person come in the office, right? It's a woman.

Starting point is 01:09:51 And then the police officer is like, okay, we're going to have to come down and strip search her, or you can do it for us over the phone. You can ask the employee what they want. So they ask the employee, and the employee is like, well, I'd rather have you do. I know you. I don't want somebody to come down here, I don't know, right? So then the guy's like, okay, we need you to have her take her shirt off, right? And it keeps going on until the employee is like completely naked, like bending over, spreading

Starting point is 01:10:19 their ass, spreading their, you know, vagina, you know, vagina, you know, vegeeks or whatever it's even called, lifting their tits up, right? Okay. Then at one point, right? It's insane. And all this is on the cameras in the McDonald's, right? So then at one point, the manager is like, I've been doing this for an hour and 20 minutes with this employee.

Starting point is 01:10:40 I got a few people breakfast out here. And the officer is like, is there anyone else you trust that you could have finished up the strip search, right? Which is like, well, my fiancee, I guess he could come down and help, right? The manager's fiancee comes down, right? And is now on the phone with the police officer. This lady's been there naked for an hour and a half. The officer's like, yeah, I need you to like smell her body for like drugs.

Starting point is 01:11:03 And then I need you to like have her lay over your, your knees. But is the officer real or they're just not real? Yeah. And so, but these people don't know it. It's like this, it's this system that happens in your head when you get a little bit of direction and you start to follow it. And by the end, this man is, this man who doesn't even work in the McDonald's is spanking this woman, right?

Starting point is 01:11:25 Then the, the officer says, this is like actually happened, bro. This happened in like 50 locations. What? And there's a video about that. There's a documentary about it on Netflix. Okay. It's called, don't pick up the phone. Okay.

Starting point is 01:11:38 Bro, I was laughing so fucking hard. And the end, this girl gives the man a blow job, dude. Okay. That's gotta be fake. No. No. They had it right there. The guy went to jail for it.

Starting point is 01:11:50 What? And all he was trying to do was help his broken wife, who's a McDonald's. That's fucked. Okay. You gotta be a bit dumb to believe that though. Well, you have to be. But there's this thing where it's like, when you start to believe a little bit, what is that called?

Starting point is 01:12:02 Is that when you start to believe something a little bit like a, no, it's a, it's a system that's in there, but it was just a minute. It's unbelievable. It's not only like they, they start to figure out who this guy is and I won't tell you what happens, but this guy, I've been doing it for like 10, 12 years. Wow. Call him a McDonald's. And he just got, he just got a kick out of it.

Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah. Type shit. It's pretty fun. It's kind of a good prank call. Bro, the level that it went to was just, I mean. What if it just started out as like a funny prank call and then like, he's like just kind of fucking with them and then they actually did it. I'm sure.

Starting point is 01:12:35 Well, people were blowing each other. People were, um, that a lot of instances where people smelling each other's butt, uh, just things that were just really graphic, you know, that's wild. Can you imagine you're in McDonald's, you're getting strip search, you're fucking 18 years old. I would just quit bro. Straight out. Well, here's the best part of that call is at one point the janitor comes in, right?

Starting point is 01:12:56 He picked up the phone, he listens to the dude for like 10 seconds and he's like, oh, this guy's just fucking playing around with the phone. Fuck. McDonald's is fucked. I worked there for like three shifts back in the day. Yeah. But it was so brutal. Like I was just like, fuck this, bro.

Starting point is 01:13:10 What was your responsibilities there? So it's so weird. Like when you work in the kitchen, they make the newest person do like the hardest job. It's called like, like batch cooking or some shit and you got to like, like the burgers are on one side of the kitchen and then the fried shit, like the nuggets and the fucking all that shit. The fun shit. McChickens and shit.

Starting point is 01:13:27 That's all on the other side of the kitchen and you got to like go back and forth and like do both and it's only one person that does it and like the managers are up there just fucking off like munching on fries and shit. Just saying the machine's broken. Yeah. So it's like, it was, it was pretty crazy. And then like some 40 year old was like bitching at me. Like I was just like, yeah, I'm out.

Starting point is 01:13:47 And then I went to work at the golf course and just like fucked off and worked there. Did you see a lot of celebs at the golf course that came through or no? Actually we met. No. Actually, yeah. Will Smith came through there once. It's crazy. And then Margot Robbie.

Starting point is 01:14:01 Oh yeah. Was she pretty? She's smoking. God. She's drinking shit too. Getting hammered with her girls and shit. Yeah. It's pretty crazy.

Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. Sometimes I wish I had more semen in my body than I do. Yeah. What, what was your experience? Like I know you guys had OJ Simpson on, right? Take me through the process of how you pull in somebody like that and, and was there some, was there some ethical questions? If I don't know, you guys don't have a lot of ethics.

Starting point is 01:14:28 No, we don't have a lot of ethics, but um, ethical questions about, yeah, you know what actually being real, we actually did debate it. We've had the opportunity for like months, like maybe like a year, honestly. And I think he has like a right hand guy. Oh yeah. For us, it's usually like when the sun's a fan. That's how we get like mostly all our shit. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:49 Like if they have a male fan and he's 16 to whatever, 20 something, 28, he probably knows us, right? Yeah. So OJ's right hand guy, his son is a fan and I met him at like a Super Bowl party. We were already connected over email, but yeah, we're talking about, he's like, I can get OJ for you guys, blah, blah, blah, but the only condition is like, don't bring up the trial. Right.

Starting point is 01:15:13 And that was like, that was the condition from day one. Don't bring up like the trial, nothing about 1990, whatever. And we're like, yeah, yeah. Like whatever. And then we were debating it, like a lot of people on our team didn't want to do it because we're like, like we asked like even like Gary V, I think one time too, like, what do you think about this? He's like, nah, don't do that.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Like don't touch that. Like, and we're like, yeah. So we were kind of scared of it too, because it is kind of fucked up. Like, you know, how would the family feel like given that guy a platform to talk. But I think the way we went about it was when we decided to do it, we're just like, yo, we're just going to actually ask him like the tough question too. We're not just going to go there and not ask that. Right.

Starting point is 01:15:52 That's a good point. You know, that's actually a really great point. Yeah. By asking him, at least there's that you're doing kind of what everybody wants to do. And at the end of the day, it's like, I mean, it's not our fault. Like, I don't know. It's like, I'm not the justice system. Like we let out, like we had him on and that's what a podcast is.

Starting point is 01:16:11 I would almost have almost anyone on. That's a good point. I don't know if I believe in the not giving someone a platform thing. Yeah. I mean, personally, I mean, we've had guys and, you know, guys that have had sex, you know, crime issues in our, you know, world and it's like, when do you know if a guy is getting better, somebody or any type of thing, you know, when do you know if a guy's getting better and try to help them just be a part of it?

Starting point is 01:16:36 You know, it's like, be supportive. It's like, if somebody were sick, you try to help them. But with OJ was it like, and I didn't mean you guys don't have any ethics. I was just kind of climbing, but do you think when you saw him, was it hard to get that question out? Kind of. It was so hard because he walked in right away and like, you know, he's big or not. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:57 He's tall. He's nice, sexy, purple suit. He's looking fly comes in, like he's talking about golf. Like he's asking me where I play golf and Cali. Like we play the same courses and shit. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. We're talking about specific holes.

Starting point is 01:17:10 Like, I'm like, fuck, this guy's a beauty. Oh, because now you have a little bit of a friendship. Yeah. Like, I'm like, fuck. I'm like, all right, shut up, dude. Stop being so fucking nice. Yeah, I'll get the knife. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:19 I was like, shut up. Yeah. And then we got into the pod and we're like, you know, again, he was, he's a very likable guy, which is clearly how he, you know, he got, he did what he did. Like he's very charming and likable. So yeah, but for that one, I was just pounding happy dads. I kind of treated it like a prank. Like I was like, fuck, like I didn't want to do it, but I just like, I just kept pounding

Starting point is 01:17:39 happy dads. Well, happy dads help someone ask a question they don't want to ask you thing. I mean, alcohol, it's liquid courage, right? But happy dads specifically specifically, I mean, electrolytes and shit. It doesn't help you. It has electrolytes. They did it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:53 It definitely doesn't hurt. Yeah. It could almost be like a thing that's capable of not sure if your cousin killed somebody. Uh-huh. Drink happy dad. Yeah. But yeah, no, it was tough to ask. But yeah, I'm glad I did it.

Starting point is 01:18:07 Cause people were in the pit. I mean, there's actually artful. It was like, do you think, it wasn't like, do you think the murder is still out there? Are you? I think I said, first I asked him if he's scared to face God. And then I said, yeah, like, do you think the killer's still out there? Yeah. Cause it's like, he's never really went out and looked for, have you ever even looked

Starting point is 01:18:23 for him? I don't wanna walk. But then after I read a lot of comments like, He has bad hips though. Conspiracy and shit that his son did it or some shit, but. The little fat son? I don't know. He's older now.

Starting point is 01:18:35 I don't know. But apparently like his son was involved or something. Bring up the son, OJ's son at time of murder. This is going to be unreal. This is why I still haven't read it. But have you seen that before I watched like all the documentaries and shit and like, it was so bad. Like there was like eight domestic violence calls, like pictures of the Nicole like beaten

Starting point is 01:18:54 up. It's pretty sad. Man. Oh, that's his son now. Maybe. No, it's an old photo. That's how it is. But yeah, look at the group of the four of them right there.

Starting point is 01:19:06 You think that little kid did it? Oh, what? No way. Oh, dude. He would have to run and put a knife forward. Okay. I don't know how old he was, but. How much of that kid way you think he would have had to like have a sword, huh?

Starting point is 01:19:19 I think it was just a regular knife. Yeah. He definitely fucking did it. I mean. What is that? I don't know. No, no chance. Look at his face a little bit more.

Starting point is 01:19:30 Let's get a little closer on him. I mean, no, no chance. I think he's looking. He does actually does kind of look suspicious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. Like, oh, we'll see what happens next. Yeah. He does look a little suspicious. It's crazy, man. I think that, um, you know, that girl who died in Colorado, her brother killed her, uh, that famous little beauty parlor girl, Jean-Bernet Ramsey, Jean-Bernet Ramsey, that her brother killed her.

Starting point is 01:20:05 Damn. And he's homoerotic. I think. Um, did it end weird after you said that to him? After you talked about it? Was there a weird? I think he, I think he tried to keep his cool. We also pulled up in a Ford Bronco.

Starting point is 01:20:18 So. Yeah. And, and, uh, we pulled up because it was just for the video. We didn't want him to see us, but then like he pulled up at the same time and like he did like a double look, like in like, I thought we almost blew it right then and there because he's like, what the fuck are they doing in a Bronco? Yeah. It's murder.

Starting point is 01:20:36 What if you were listening to that song you pulled out? Oh my God. Yeah. No, he was cool after he kept his cool. I don't think he won. He, he's very aware. So I think he wanted to keep his cool and not give a, a good reaction. Did you get a vibe that he had done it?

Starting point is 01:20:49 No, not really. Like he's so, it's hard to believe that he did. He's so likable and like cool. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's hard to believe anyone would kill someone. So like you're sitting across from a murderer. You're like, did this guy actually kill someone?

Starting point is 01:21:04 No matter who it is, I guess. But no, I didn't get that vibe. But I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, it was crazy. It's hard to know. People, we got some flak for doing him, but not, not that much. Most people liked it, but some people were like, why the fuck would you give him a platform? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but I don't really give a shit about that shit.

Starting point is 01:21:24 I think Ron Goldman's sister started a podcast. I believe the man that got killed with her, with the wife. Really? Yeah. The wife was beautiful. With the wife of who? With OJ's wife, Nicole Brown and her friend. There was a guy, Ron Goldman, that got killed too.

Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah. That people forget about a lot. Uh-huh. And uh, damn. Crazy, bro. Yeah. I don't know if I could do it, man. I think I could kill, like, I think I could put the knife in somebody.

Starting point is 01:21:49 I couldn't pull it out. Stabbing's kind of fucked. I could probably pop someone with a gun. Yeah. But I think you got to stab him if you're going to do it. You think? Yeah. It's more like Rome.

Starting point is 01:21:59 It's like, you know, like Caesar kind of like, I feel like you have to at least do it. Like you'll never even know what it's like. At least if you're stabbing him, you're part of like the culture. I feel like even I'd lean more to like, like a rear naked choke type shit. Just choke him till the end. I feel like I could do that, but like the stabbing is just like, that's fucked. You got to mean it. I don't know if I could do it.

Starting point is 01:22:20 Yeah, you got to really mean it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to mean it, man. That's the thing. I think it would have to be. Even like pushing them off like a tall building.

Starting point is 01:22:30 That's insane, bro. That's easier though. You think? Like it's just kind of like a push and then you, then you just cut. But like stabbing's like you're kind of, you got to commit to it the whole way. Yeah. It's like a longer moment. They're going to look you in the eyes.

Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah. Yeah. Maybe if you did like, I mean, you fucking pushed them. Yeah. I would do the fake cough at him. I think you could do something, you know, or just randomly put something there. You're going to trip on like, oh, that's crazy. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:56 Why did somebody put this? Why did somebody put this bowling ball right here? Zach, did you get that audio working? I just wanted to look at that. Yeah. I got to hear. All right. Thank you very much.

Starting point is 01:23:08 For people who don't know, that's the AI, right? That makes stories out. Like it can make tech stories out of anything. Tech stories? Yeah. It's just showing you like what is like kind of the future of even like class work and stuff could be like. Oh no.

Starting point is 01:23:22 How many of you know what chat GBT is? Okay. You make it bigger? Yeah. Not very many. So I'll tell you what chat GBT is just so you know, because you need to know this. And I don't know what sort of technological revolution this is. Gutenberg press level.

Starting point is 01:23:41 It's something like that. This is a big deal. So this AI system, it's a general language processing model was released about a week ago, a week and a half ago. And I went and interacted with it. It's an AI system, artificial intelligence system. It basically is trained on well, a massive corpus of spoken and or of text. So it's derived its models of the world from the analysis of human speech.

Starting point is 01:24:12 Essentially, it isn't using real world data yet, but that will be happening certainly within the next year. So and chat GBT analyzes a very large corpus of text and that corpus is growing all the time. Now it's already sophisticated enough. I went on to it last week and I said, okay, some of you know, I've written these books 12 rules for life and then beyond order 12 more rules because, you know, you can't have enough rules.

Starting point is 01:24:43 And I asked it. This is what I asked it to do. Write me an essay, that's a 13th rule for beyond order written in a style that combines the King James Bible with the Tao Te Ching. That's a pretty difficult. That's pretty difficult to pull off, you know, any one of those things is hard. The intersection of all three, that's impossible. Well, it wrote it in about three seconds, four pages long.

Starting point is 01:25:12 And it isn't obvious to me for better or worse that I would be able to tell that I didn't write it. Right. Right. And okay. That's crazy. That's good. Although, you know, maybe.

Starting point is 01:25:26 That's crazy. I mean, just to think that like you go put your information, you know, the AI shit's crazy. You can like, hey, write this novel for me, write this story. I mean, it might not be great, but you'd have like, you'd almost have your ghost writer right there create like half of the work. That's why I'm trying to like be successful and make my money in the next like five or whatever years before this shit becomes like mainstream. Right.

Starting point is 01:25:49 Cause then at that point, it feels like there's not going to be any value to being human anymore. No, like, and I feel like to compete in society, you're going to need to like do this type of stuff or have like a neuro link, right? That's the other thing too. Yeah. The Elon Musk, like whatever in the brain, like the most successful people are going to, they're going to do the, this shit. I just don't want to be a part of that shit at all.

Starting point is 01:26:10 Yeah. No, I don't want a neuro link in my brain. Would you go on? I don't know. I think if it helped me sleep, I would probably get it. True. I mean, the medical benefits are like, that's pretty crazy. If there are some, does it say there are?

Starting point is 01:26:22 I mean, that's kind of half of it. Yeah, too. I think he said like, it can like cure like Alzheimer's and stuff like that. And like, I think he even said like cure like paralyze. Fuck. Yeah. So I mean that, if that's true, that's insane. But I think just the fact of everyone having like something in their brain, like that's

Starting point is 01:26:39 fucked. Yeah. Like the, like then the government has. Right. They, they're in your brain. Like are they, like that thing's probably downloading info. But is it even the government anymore? I feel like the government is like a shell LLC for like whatever bigger, darker fucking

Starting point is 01:26:55 money, licking lizards are out there. You know? Yeah. I feel like there's just some big lizard licking a nickel somewhere in a fucking bag. What's that thing called reptilians or whatever or some shit? Yeah. I think, yeah, people believe I think in some of that, like some, you know, reptilian kings or whatever, but it starts to feel like something's fucking going on.

Starting point is 01:27:13 That's what I think. Sometimes I think that like secretly like aliens are like running the world. Yeah. Like I feel like they're on earth and they're like, I don't know if they're disguised or whatever, but I just feel like humans are just so easily manipulated. It's so shocking. Like I feel like they came here and said like, we need to live here, but there's like this species here that we need to control.

Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. And like they just taught us how to act like humans. And now they're just, they're just kind of controlling us type shit. I don't know. That's what it feels like sometimes because like we're smart, but we're not that smart. No. And we're not that individual as we think, you know, we kind of think we are, but then it's like we look at the news.

Starting point is 01:27:50 We all look at the same seven news stories every day. It's all very, it's, we all go to like four websites now. I remember when there were so many websites like shoes and pussy.net or whatever, there was everything. And then now it's just like, you know, ESPN fucking, you know, yeah, they don't even go to Yahoo anymore. People used to go to that, but it's like, it's just like, there's just ESPN. Like there's not even like, dude, I'll be on ESPN and go type ESPN again.

Starting point is 01:28:16 Like Jesus. Just add ESPN plus. That's it. Yeah. There's like, yeah. And that's it. It's like, you know, or there's betting. It's like, it's just gambling.

Starting point is 01:28:25 There's nothing now too. Like, it's all gotten really strange. It's all gotten just so like, there's not like any, like it's all just gotten down like three or four companies. Um, yeah, I sometimes think that we don't see any aliens anymore because aliens, like they were here a long time or like they come to earth and like these people are fucking lame. Like they're still walking around.

Starting point is 01:28:44 They're still shitting in like little, like a little like, uh, ornament, you know, like they're out of their minds. True, right? I know things that we take for granted or things that we do so normally. Yeah. Imagine if there was like another species watching us and they're like, what the fuck? Like, why do they do, why are they doing this? Like imagine us, we observe animals and say like, Oh, that's so interesting how they do

Starting point is 01:29:05 that. Like we do the same weird type of shit that if there was a more intelligent species, they'd be like, why the fuck do they do this? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Were their nature channel dude? They're like, Oh, this guy's bringing leftovers.

Starting point is 01:29:17 He's driving from the Italian restaurant with half of a fucking veal parmesan in his back seat with his wife who won't shut the fuck up. I know. Sorry. He hates her, but he won't leave her like, yeah, dude. Or she hates him or she has like some buzzer underwear that's like touching her puss the whole time. It just like, what is even like, that's why I think aliens don't even come here anymore.

Starting point is 01:29:39 It's cause they like, they know back home, like that place is a fucking dump. Like they're like, it's almost like if you go to like, you want to go to Toledo, you know, no offense, but you know, I got tetanus there from, um, just, just looking open in my eyes in the city. But it's like, um, it's just like, they're not even coming here. It's like, if you're shitty alien parents are taking you to fucking earth on your fucking alien vacation, dude, you're so lame. I know it's crazy what the, I don't know what's, I don't know what our fucking future

Starting point is 01:30:08 is. Yeah. I feel like it's all going to go to shits before it gets better. Like we're too far gone. I think. I don't know how it gets back. I mean, people have lost their sense of like American idealism. I think it's kind of gone, you know, most of the like smaller cities and stuff kind

Starting point is 01:30:23 of struggle, but then there's still a lot of like people there that care about each other and stuff. So I think if shit hit the fans, cities would kind of get fucked up first because people in cities are just going to pop each other. Cities are fucked. Yeah. They're going to kill each other. You don't want to be in the city, but towns will band together, you know, counties and

Starting point is 01:30:39 small rural, they'll fucking band together for sure, you know, and they'll have a lot of weapons. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, you go to those places. It's pretty dope. Yeah. People are just chilling. They're eating fucking pie, dude.

Starting point is 01:30:51 They're wanting to fuck each other, but they can't, you know, because somebody's, you know, that's what, because I don't know if you know, but like Canadians hate Americans. Really? Yeah. Canadians hate Americans. Like when I, when I, like that was the thing before, like Canadians don't like Americans. Why? What do you think they're like arrogant or whatever type shit?

Starting point is 01:31:08 Yeah. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I found it cool. Like when I used to go to like the Southern States first, like when I would go to like Georgia or like, I don't know, I just feel people are really nice there. I find too. Like the Southern States and like the real, like American states, people are fucking really nice.

Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah, people are. People are cool. Yeah. America is awesome, man. I mean, there's a lot of great places. We get stuck in these like spaces where we just hear shit out of New York and LA where people are just more concerned about like they're a, you know, they feel like they don't need America anymore.

Starting point is 01:31:40 Like they're better. They're just so stupid. It's fucking dumb, dude. It's so dumb. It's so dumb, man. That's one thing I liked. I like, I moved to Nashville a couple of years ago, a year and a half ago. Is that where you like live?

Starting point is 01:31:49 Yeah. That's dope. And it's been great, man. It's like you get to see. Yeah. Tennessee didn't, they didn't budge at all. Right. Dude, that shit was wide open during the vaccine.

Starting point is 01:31:57 Yeah. There were people fucking eating vaccine. I mean, no, people, there were people fucking eating COVID, dude. I saw what you said. Like what do we do with our fake vax cards? Oh yeah. Dude. That's funny.

Starting point is 01:32:09 It's true. Right. Like, yeah. What do we do with them? Yeah. Like do we throw them out? Like are you going to need it again one day? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:32:18 But that was, yeah, I don't, yeah, the whole thing is fucked. It just, I don't know. And it wastes a lot of people's time. That's the worst part. The thing I hate the most about that COVID was like, if there was like women out there who were looking for love or something, you know, and they're getting old, you know, it's like, it kind of separated a lot of people like that, you know. It's fucking crazy.

Starting point is 01:32:38 Thank God it's over though. Yeah, dude. If they try to do it again, people are going to get shot at. Yeah. You know. I know. I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen the next 10 years or some shit.

Starting point is 01:32:48 I think it's going to be crazy. What is some of you guys' business plans before you get out of here, man? What is some of y'all's business plans like moving forward? Like, so you see this, you have this product, you got, you're working well with these Shahidi guys. You guys have, do you still feel like a creative or do you start to feel like a businessman? What's some of that feel like? Both.

Starting point is 01:33:10 That's definitely like one of the struggles is like, you got to do the creative shit and you still got to do the business shit too, right? I enjoy both, but yeah, it definitely is tough. I think, yeah, we're just going to try to continue to grow Happy Dad. We're going to like double our states. We're in 16 states, so we're going to be in probably 32 by the end of the year. Oh, sweet. We're going to launch Canada, which I'm pumped about.

Starting point is 01:33:35 Dude, that's going to be insane. It's going to be insane. Like, it's going to be, that's going to be like a dream come true for me. It's going to be crazy. Wow. It's a freaking beverage in your own country. That's so ill. You've been up there or no?

Starting point is 01:33:45 Yeah, dude. You've done probably that ton of shows, right? Toronto, best posture in the world. Best posture. Yeah. What? Oh, with people? Oh, you see people in Toronto?

Starting point is 01:33:54 You could barely see them, dude. I've never noticed that. Oh, it's a clean line of human. Damn. You could barely see them anywhere in the whole world. Are you going there anytime soon or no? Yeah, I'll probably go. We're doing a bunch of shows.

Starting point is 01:34:05 Dude, we sold like 10,000 tickets in New York, we sold it. Wow. To one show? Well, I like to do a few different ones. Yeah. That's sick. I like a small, I would rather keep a smaller venue than do, because it just feels a little more intimate.

Starting point is 01:34:19 Hell yeah. You know, you get some of those bigger places. It definitely seems neater, but then people are so far away, you feel like you don't even know them. Yeah. You know, but yeah, we've been doing great. So I think, yeah, we'll get up to Canada, man. We're going to go to Calgary, Regina.

Starting point is 01:34:32 We're going to Dancisa. Have you been there, Saskatchewan? Dude, I used to go to Edmonton. I've never been there. You haven't? I've been to Edmonton. Yeah, I used to go to Edmonton to get food poisoning up there all the time. It's pretty greasy up there, right?

Starting point is 01:34:42 Yeah, it's fucking a lot of people just drinking oil and trying to fuck each other. Yeah. It's pretty cool. And like, I don't want to be raised, but like, you got to watch out for the natives there too. Really? I mean, yeah, they don't fuck around. Like, you can't fuck around with them.

Starting point is 01:34:56 Oh, wow, really? Yeah, they'll fuck you up. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In Edmonton? Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:04 And do they like, are they on, they're not on horseback or whatever, like, or, or, they're just kind of, they're just there smoking darts, like having a cigarette and they'll just, they'll fuck you up if you like to look at them wrong and shit. Fuck yeah. We should get that sanctioned, huh? Yeah. Dude, they should have a little bit of like native verse white, do it over, you know? Like in the UFC?

Starting point is 01:35:23 Yes, do something, or at least like a small field battle. You know, when I was growing up, we'd go out there to the CWRs out there, the Civil War reenactments, and we'd get out there and somebody's daddy would be in it, you know, and there'd always be some fucking chicks out there trying to fucking smash like some of the generals and shit. But uh, that was a big thing in the south, you know? The Civil War reenactments? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:46 That's crazy. It was huge, man. I remember when we'd go, there'd have 600, 700 people out there reenacting. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Get out there, people are eating, somebody's got a horn, somebody's fucking coming out there in the distance drinking Dr. Pepper, bruh, I'm praying.

Starting point is 01:36:02 Uh. God, I miss it, but, um, Kyle Forgard, any suggestions you have, and it's kind of a general question when you get all the time, but for somebody that's kind of like trying to get into the digital space now, somebody that's looking like find their way, find their lane, is there any thoughts you would have kind of for them? Like, what does that look like now? I think the new age now is like, you probably know it too, but it's all about the clipping shit now, right?

Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah. I see it on your pod, I see your clips all the time, right? Yeah, you guys too. It's how I keep up with Brad, it's how I know what Stiney's doing, you know, it's like, it helps. Yeah, right? So I think, I think the most, the best thing you can do now is to be like shareable, right? I think, you know, whatever you're doing, just like, how is someone that doesn't know

Starting point is 01:36:45 you or doesn't give a fuck about you? Like what's going to make them want to watch your shit? Or what's going to make someone want to show a friend your thing, right? Yeah. There's got to be something to it. Like, right? Like your shit, people share it because it's funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:36:59 Like you, you know, someone's going to be like, yo, look, this is funny. Like you got to be, you got to be shareable. Like if you look at your piece of content and there's no reason to share it, you're not going to grow, especially now. It's not like before there's so many people doing it, like you got to really stand out, right? Yeah. You can't be boring.

Starting point is 01:37:17 You got to. Yeah, you have to find, I think, what is your unique thing. Yeah. And also editing can be key. So if you have a good editor or if you have a good eye for your own stuff, like I remember when I first went to colleges, I didn't have a full hour of comedy, right? Right. So I would go and I would show up the day before and I would do like Cribs, like with

Starting point is 01:37:32 like the principal of the school or like the fraternity house and then I would edit and I would interview people on campus and I would edit it that night. And so then the next day I would do a little bit more and finish the editing. And then when it came time for the showtime, I had like this 20 minute intro video where it was like cut together, like a shitty Cribs kind of, but it was like the principal, you know? Or like the jokes. And then like fraternity.

Starting point is 01:37:57 Is that shit still on YouTube? No, I never put any of that. I'll see if I can find some of that. That sounds funny. It was pretty cool. But then I had like suddenly I had like a 20 minute opener and then I would do 25 minutes of comedy and now and then I do like 15 Q&A and now I have an hour show. 100%.

Starting point is 01:38:10 But it was like you, I learned how to do like those things, you know, and like at least know what I was going to be kind of a domain over, you know, and how I like to navigate humor and clips. And you could edit stuff together too to make things funny no matter what. Yeah. And now I think shit stopped going viral for a bit on YouTube. Like remember when shit used to go crazy viral, like the fucking Charlie bit my finger, those type of like, no, but anyone could upload a video on YouTube.

Starting point is 01:38:35 Cannibalism or whatever. Yeah, exactly. People eating each other and shit. Right. They would allow anything before. Well, they had one video of a guy making love to a dog in a park, dude, that was up forever. Action penetration.

Starting point is 01:38:44 Yeah, bro. It was crazy. That shit was out there. That's lit. It's crazy. Horse porn and shit. What makes you wonder if we'd ever get back to that, you know? We'd never see some guys just staying warm of the fucking St. Bernard and you respect

Starting point is 01:38:57 it. Yeah. Getting a blowy from a golden retriever. I mean, that's a little crazy, but I mean, I mean, that's, you know, they're going to stay loyal, right? Golden retriever. Dude, I remember the first time I saw a golden retriever, dude, I'd never seen a dog inside someone's house before, right?

Starting point is 01:39:12 So I'm over at my buddy's, dude, and this fucking dog comes around the corner, right? And I was like, oh, I mean, it was just the beautiful golden. Oh, just blonde hair, beautiful fucking blonde hair. I mean, it looked like, it kind of looked like, uh, like Suzanne Summers. She was like this older model. Bring her up. It looked like Suzanne. I mean, it came around and it fucking looked like somebody like loved it or whatever.

Starting point is 01:39:37 And I just remember being like, my God, dude, it looked like her. Right. Fuck. Yeah. But I'd never seen it. I'd never seen a dog indoors. Every dog I've been around was outdoor dog, you know, and they died out there. I mean, they lived out there too.

Starting point is 01:39:52 Yeah. But, um, dude, thanks so much for just coming in. Yeah, I appreciate it, bro. Yeah. I think it's really helpful for everybody to kind of learn about what the NELT boys is, what the full send is, what it's like, kind of just, uh, what your journey's been like, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:06 No, I appreciate you having me. I got to come. I want to come to some shows, man. Yeah. We've never been. Yeah. I've seen a ton of your shit online, but we got to, we got to come see some shows live.

Starting point is 01:40:14 Yeah, dude, definitely. We'll get you to one for sure. I'm supposed to just hopefully start doing some stuff with UFC. I'm trying. So. We're just going to try to start, we're trying to start figuring some stuff out. So. Anything you could say or no?

Starting point is 01:40:24 No, it's just, we're still like in the incubator stages. That's sick. It would just be, yeah, I just like, I just love it so much every time I'm there, it's like Christmas, you know? Even like some, what, like some commentary type shit or like, you can't say. Just like, that just gets me excited. We're figuring out the involvement, you know, we're trying to figure out what it could be. Because God, I'm just so fucking, oh, it just feels so good.

Starting point is 01:40:44 You should do that. That'd be sick. I'm trying, man. It's just so good when we're there, you know, um, Kyle Forgard, thanks so much for coming in, dude. I gotta come on a full send soon. Yes. Let's do it when you're back.

Starting point is 01:40:56 All right. Let's do it. Hell yeah. All right, bro. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I'll share this piece of mind I found, I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take me to the end of the world, I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take me to the end

This Past Weekend - E426 Kyle Forgeard

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