This Past Weekend - E429 Dave Portnoy

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Starting point is 00:01:28 And thank you for your support. Today's guest is the founder of Barstool and Barstool Sports. He's a, I mean, he's a media legend. He's kind of a revolutionary in a way. He's kind of a dang Paul Revere for a lot of people. He has a unique ability. He makes you feel like anything is possible. And I'm grateful to have him here today.

Starting point is 00:01:58 Today's guest is Dave Portnoy. Yeah, we hired a guy strictly because he's a big fan of Barstool and Barstool and Barstool. I mean, I hired a guy strictly because he's blind, but it was like, yeah, it was like in the, like he interviewed, you know, it was a, it was wallpaper. I mean, he was so boring, but he knew me is like, I have one thing that may sway you like in my favor. It's like, what? He's like, well, I'm legally blind.

Starting point is 00:02:45 I'm like, well, like, can I make fun of you for it? Like, is it open game? He's like, yeah. So we hired him. Oh, wow. He's still like, sort, he's still with us in a way. Yeah. Like to the point we thought he was faking it because like he knew that would get me.

Starting point is 00:03:00 So one day we just, and a bunch of people thought I was faking it. So we called him up. I'm like, I'm just going to like toss my wallet to him and see if he reacts, smacked him right in the face. It's the only time I felt bad and he was literally, literally blind, but he'd sit as computer. Like what you were saying with this huge magnifying glass, you tell him to do something and it took him four hours.

Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of a gimmick, but not the most productive guy to ever come down the street. Yeah. We interviewed a blind woman one time and it was pretty fascinating. She said she remit like the E like she almost feels like a computer sometimes, like how like she would remember the way she would walk to school and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:03:39 So she lost her sight. Yeah. She had some sight when she was young and it wasn't a lot and then she lost it completely. Yeah. And so then she had to like, she said, she started to feel like a computer and the only animal she didn't like, she said was a snake. She said a snake doesn't give any feedback. She's like, it just feels like, just like a piece of Satan, I guess.

Starting point is 00:03:57 Maybe it was born to be blind and I don't like snakes either. Yeah. That's the age old question. Like would you rather, would you rather like, if you were blind, would you rather have been able to see or never been able to see? I think I would like to, if I'm going to be blind, I'm going all in. I'm saying never. I'm going to be blind because then you don't know what you're missing.

Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. And then you can yell stuff. You could use like, I don't want to say slurs, but you could probably say things that are other people are going to be like, oh, he shouldn't say anything like, oh, he's blind. You know? He's blind. Dave Portnoy, thanks for coming in, man. Yep.

Starting point is 00:04:31 We don't know each other that great. You know? Definitely not. Yeah. Definitely not. I feel like maybe we're... I mean, we just met recently, really, for the first time, I think it was the, you know, when was the first time we met was at the LSU tailgate, I think.

Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. And then we saw each other a couple of times after that. Yeah. Yeah, man. We're kind of like just sort of getting to know each other. And you are... You grew up in New York. Wrong.

Starting point is 00:05:01 See, we don't know each other that well, Boston. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But does Boston always have such a chip on their shoulder about New York? It's almost like...it almost seems like there's more like...it seemed like New York, but with more like kind of spousal abuse, kind of a little bit, locate, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to look up the stats on that one.

Starting point is 00:05:23 There's definitely animosity. I don't know if it stems from like spousal abuse, but it's the...you know, New York...so I grew up in Boston and everybody in New York is always like Boston is a little town. Yeah. Basically, it's not a city, it's a town. You know, you...as a Boston guy, you kind of take offense to that. And then we moved to New York, and New York, it is compared to Boston. It's a small little city, but it's so close to the sports rivalry.

Starting point is 00:05:45 Reminds me, I was in Milwaukee, right? And I did a pizza review, which I do, and I thought I was in Milwaukee, it's actually in Racine. Oh, yeah. The Racine Bells from League of Legends. Yeah. League of Legends. They're on their own.

Starting point is 00:05:56 I was actually...I didn't realize it until after, and I was mad. I didn't know that. I would have worked it in. But Racine people were very upset that I was calling it Milwaukee, like, you're in Racine, you're not Milwaukee. It's kind of that vibe, Boston, you know? Yeah. Like, when you were growing up, what kind of school did you go to?

Starting point is 00:06:10 Like, what was it like when you were growing up? Like... Traditionalized, middle class, went to all public, like, Swamp Scott, just...the town I grew up was called Swamp Scott, so I just went to the normal high school, normal middle school, normal everything. Like, my friends that I grew up with are still, like, really my best friends. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:27 And what was it like at your house? Like, was your dad pretty cool, or what was he like? No, he's definitely...I went to...cool is not the word. Like, I would ever describe my dad as, he's like...my parents, I like the Seinfelds. That's a better way to, like, Morty, you know, Morty, and he takes, by the way, great offense to that. Oh, he loves it? No, he...if you're like, you're like Morty Seinfeld, when Morty Seinfeld does something

Starting point is 00:06:51 weird on site, he's like, no, I'm not. What are you talking about? But he is exactly like them. They're kind of maybe the traditional, like, overprotective, like, Jewish, like, family, parents, kind of, that's what they are. Is it fun? So you've been Jewish your whole life? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:06 Okay. Is it fun being Jewish? Like, what is it like? Like... No, I won't say it's fun. It's nothing. Like, I wasn't overly religious. Right.

Starting point is 00:07:14 So, but it...no. I wouldn't say it's fun. You had a battle, you know? I always, like, Jews, you know, there's more...everyone celebrates Christmas, like, far fewer do Hanukkah. So, like, in the early days of our school, we had this guy, Kevin Clancy, gets the big ass tree, you know, it's like, well, if we're gonna do a big ass tree, I'm gonna get a big ass manure. We had the biggest manure, like, ever made.

Starting point is 00:07:36 It had to be, like, put together in the office, just so we weren't getting, like, short-shifted on it. But, yeah, no, I don't really give a fuck. I'm not overly religious. I mean, you know, I'll stick up for Jews if we're getting, like, if Kanye is, like, you know, Hitler wasn't that bad of a dude, I'll be able to hold on there, like, he kind of was. Like, I don't...like, well, he did rail...he did the highway system.

Starting point is 00:07:59 I'm like, yeah, but... But he used it wrong. Yeah, he killed a lot of us, too. So I don't know that one plus one equals two or whatever, so. But I'm not overly...but, like, shit like that, I will get involved, like, when people are defending him, it's like, the guys out here, like, basically pro-Hitler, how can anyone defend them? So that shit I'll speak up on, but I'm not, you know, I'm not overly, like, a lot of the

Starting point is 00:08:23 holidays I don't follow and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's always one of, like, probably half of my closest friends are Jewish, especially once you get to, like, LA or New York, you meet a lot more Jewish people. They didn't have, like, a lot of Jewish people when I was growing up. So... We're running the media. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:38 That's what they say. I mean, yeah, I don't...I mean, there's so many Jewish people that work in the media. I don't know. I have no idea, you know? It's like, I don't know who's...I don't know who's...if somebody's really running something. I don't know. No, well, I mean, it's like anything. You can look.

Starting point is 00:08:55 I run Barstool Sports. That's a media company. I work my ass for it. I mean, whatever. I don't know if it's bad people or scumbags in every race, religion, creed, whatever. Oh, yeah. Jews get a bad rap, but a lot of people get bad rap. So what do you know?

Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, I was just wondering, what is it like? Like, does it feel...I wonder if it feels different being Jewish? Does it feel like... Like, do I wake up? I'm like, damn, I'm a Jew. No, I... Or like, yeah, I guess...I don't know. I guess I don't even know what I'm asking.

Starting point is 00:09:21 I guess I just...I guess sometimes wonder what it feels like. Yeah, I guess like... The thing about it, though, which I've always said, so... Because Jewish people are very determined. Jewish people like to create value in things. Yeah, well, I think it's kind of like a family thing. Like, they're very, very education, very hardworking, and put a premium on that, and then it shows. But the thing about being Jewish, which I have always pointed out, we're getting deep,

Starting point is 00:09:43 but it's like, people say, you'll hear this a lot, like, what are you? And someone will be like, I'm Italian, I'm fucking, you know, Russian, I'm Jewish. Yeah. But Jewish, like, if I wanted to change being Jewish, tomorrow I could. It's not like a blood thing. Jewish is a religion that you choose. If someone wants to be Catholic, they can choose it in a second. You can't change being, like, Italian.

Starting point is 00:10:02 That's what you are. Like, if you're born from there. So Jewish, it's kind of one of those things. Over time, I think it's probably out of prejudice. People make it sound like it's your blood. It's fucking not your blood. It's your religion that somewhere along the way somebody chose to believe. But you can change it.

Starting point is 00:10:17 Like, I'm Russian. My family is from Russia. Oh, you are? I could see that a little bit now. Yeah. And we don't, in my family, to be honest, we don't talk. Like, I don't even know that much about the history. I'm sure bad shit happened.

Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, most people don't leave their country just because. Damn, you're Russian? Yeah. Yeah, Russian. Dang. Yep. Wow, man. That's great, man.

Starting point is 00:10:39 I don't know. I knew this one Russian girl and she was so sexy, man. And God, she invited me over one time and, like, she was sick or something. I brought her some soup and she, like, was so aggressively trying to fuck that. Well, she didn't feel well? Yeah. And so that, I was like, oh, what do you do here? You know?

Starting point is 00:10:58 Like. See, I'm such a hyperchondriac. I would, I'd be like, not like you got to get healthy. Well, that's kind of how I was. I was so scared. There's like, you know, I kept trying to lead her back to the soup and she kept coming for me. And, uh, and I got so scared because she was sick, but she was so like aggressive and

Starting point is 00:11:14 determined. It's wild. Yeah. It was interesting, man. And she actually went to jail. I remember she hit me up like years later to come testify for her in something and I couldn't make it. All right.

Starting point is 00:11:26 I just wanted to sleep in honestly. Yeah. That's tough. Like if you're being asked to testify and you're like, sorry, you must not have really been that close with her to skip the, you know, skip the trial or whatever she was going down for. She's like, I need somebody to show up. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:43 I guess, I guess my question is like, does it feel, do you feel a lot of pressure being Jewish to be successful? No. No. That's interesting. No. I don't feel pressure to be successful at all, but no, nothing to do with, if anything, like I feel like there, no, there's a lot of successful Jews.

Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. My parents weren't like, Hey, you're Jewish, you better be successful. No. Oh, maybe that's what it is. Maybe I thought a lot of friends of my, a lot of my Jewish friends are successful, you know? And so it's like, um, yeah, I guess I've wondered, do I feel like that there's a pressure and then all my Jewish friends are always saying that their moms are always driving them nuts.

Starting point is 00:12:16 So I guess I started to do that. I started to put those things together. I love my mother. She's coming to the Super Bowl with me just to like probably get away from my dad for a couple of days. Well, like my mother's the type of woman. And again, this is a typical, I do it like I go home, I'll go back to wherever I'm going and you know, I open my like suitcase and they'll be like, geez, it's hidden in there

Starting point is 00:12:37 and like all sorts of gadgets. Like she's just overprotective. Like she doesn't, anything I say, I don't want that. I don't do this. I don't do it. Like she's always, you know, if I could walk around a giant bubble, like that's what they do. Like my grandma, I remember one time I was looking at colleges and there was a plane crash.

Starting point is 00:12:55 We were driving. Yeah. And she called worried. She's like, the plane crashed. You're right. Like we weren't, we weren't flying. She's like, well, the plane could have landed on you. Like that's the type of like thing, you know, just a little bit overly protective.

Starting point is 00:13:08 Okay. Interesting. But no pressure. No pressure on that. Yeah, I originally want to be like a gym teacher. Like that was what I graduated actually college with and they would have been fine with it. They've been supportive. No pressure at all.

Starting point is 00:13:22 They're just, I think the Jewish thing from my, it's just most, it's just super intense on like education, like do good in school. Like if you, if you were fucking off on school, my parents would be like, what are you doing? Right. And I did fuck off a little bit at school, but that, they'd be in your grill about that. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, cause I'm just curious, you know, I'm just curious.

Starting point is 00:13:43 And so do you like, did in high school, were you like kind of like a funny guy? Were you like kind of like the guy who was like the student council leader? Like what kind of like, what was some of your vibe in high school? So yeah, I, I, I play sports hung out with like, or your Riz actually, which I learned what it means from you and your TikTok. I didn't know. Yeah. I didn't know that either.

Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. You put those fucking kids up on game. Fuck them. Yeah, right. Um, so this should give you a insight into like, I, and this is again, my parents being like, you got to get your resume right for like going to college. So I was the vice president of my class and that was like calculated because I didn't want to do the work.

Starting point is 00:14:26 So I was like, I'm not going to run for president because then you got to do shit. Vice president kind of skate, but put it on the resume. So that's what I did. And then I played sports. So I was just, again, I'd say I ran in like the, the popular crowd by his friends with a buddy. Yeah. A little bit funny.

Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. You know, I couldn't get by and look. So if you don't go looks, you go funny. Yeah. Oh yeah. Trust me, dude. I feel you. I'm, I'm like an eight.

Starting point is 00:14:50 I've always been kind of like an eight and you got a fucking, you got an eight. You got to come up with some jokes. Yeah. Like on looks. I think out of a 10. Yeah. That's a fucking super high score. I don't think you think it's that high.

Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah. Eight. Eight. So who's a 10? Like, what's Matthew McConaughey? I think he was a 10. I think he's coming down a touch. All right.

Starting point is 00:15:11 Let, let, let's, let's go somebody who's, I mean, look, the kid you work with, Josh Richards. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the guy is, yeah, I mean, he's an attractive woman on him. I mean, he's. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:22 No, he's a good looking guy. He's like, he's the fucking, um, I'm sorry. He's actually turned 21 yesterday, but he's like the, uh, Calvin Klein's model. Is he? Yeah. He's doing Calvin Klein's like. Oh my God. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:33 So. I'd put tits on him phone. I know that. I know he's a good looking kid. He always is when I walked in with that original TikTok crew, he's, he's definitely a good looking guy. Smart kid too. He looks like a mannequin.

Starting point is 00:15:44 There's a good picture of you guys together right there impersonating each other. Yeah. That was like the first time we met. So we, that's when we watched this thing. Where did you guys meet at, dude? So do you know, you probably do know this guy, know this guy because he knows fucking everybody. Do you know Michael Gruen? Michael Gruen.

Starting point is 00:16:00 Nobody's. Bruin. Bruin. No. I feel like this dude knows everybody. So there he is. No, but he looks like kind of like a. So basically I was on Twitter one day and Dixie DeMello, yeah, she broke up with her

Starting point is 00:16:20 boyfriend at the time. You may not. These were, these are huge. Yeah. I know she is. Yeah. So she was like the original kind of it girl on TikTok. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah. Yeah. And it broke into Twitter. Okay. And they broke up. They broke up with people. Gruen, who is Josh, uh, Richard's manager reached out, he's like, Hey, he'll explain it to you.

Starting point is 00:16:39 Want to do a Instagram live with him. So like, sure, we did it. And I was surprised. We kind of like had some chemistry, like, who is this kid, Snapchat reached out after we did that. Like, would you guys do a show on Snapchat? I had no interest because I wasn't like Snapchat just wasn't where I want to be. TikTok, I knew was something.

Starting point is 00:16:59 It's like, I'm sure you view the world at times like, all right, I got to get my name. Like who are these kids on TikTok? Right. I mean, Barstool had been around for a while, but nobody knew us on TikTok cause a younger demo. So to me, partnering with him who was big on TikTok is like, all right, that's going to get me, Barstool, maybe this new audience and that's where it came from. He wanted to get maybe a little more credible with like an older crowd who had been around.

Starting point is 00:17:21 I want to get the TikTok crowd to know who we were and that's where it came from. It's great. Yeah. I came on that show. So Michael Gruen is his manager. He was. He was. Okay.

Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. He was connected people. Yeah. You know, I still hear from once. He's a clue. Yeah. When I first met him, no joke to Gruen, the first thing I said to him was he was the most obnoxious human I ever met.

Starting point is 00:17:44 Is he really? He grew on me, but he can come across as sandpaper when you meet him, but I do like him now. He's growing on people, huh? Yeah. Well played. Oh, wow. And yeah, I would like to maybe meet that guy, but then yeah, it's interesting if people kind of get on to your nerves, you know, I had this dude that used to kind of, would

Starting point is 00:18:05 always kind of bite the air a little bit. He had a little bit of a, just a little hitch in him, you know, like, uh, like Val Kilmer, like Iceman. Like that. Like he was eating a berry off a tree or something, you know, and he would do that just every now and then. And like, you can deal with it for a while, but after about that fiftieth berry, you got to fucking shut him down or you got to leave the room.

Starting point is 00:18:25 Do you know the part I'm talking about with Iceman and Top Gun? Uh-uh. I was like, uh, that's right, Iceman. I am dangerous. I just bite the air. Oh, he does that? Yeah. He bites the air.

Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. Classic. Um, so in high school, so yeah, I could, I could see that, man. I could see you. Did you feel like you had kind of like that? So obviously you knew that you could kind of relate to everybody then a little bit? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:49 Because sometimes as you get a little, you start to learn just some of your skills, you're like, oh, I kind of can fit in wherever. Yeah. I was pretty good at that. Did you have a lady in high school or no? No, no, I was, uh, no, uh, no, I wasn't. I wasn't good looking. I didn't really do great with the girls at all in high school.

Starting point is 00:19:05 What about like for dances or anything? Did you ask a lady out ever? Like, do you remember like the first date you ever went on or anything like that? First date? No, I don't. I mean, I remember obviously going to like proms. I know who I went to proms with and shit like that. But no, I didn't really, uh, I had very little, if any, success in high school.

Starting point is 00:19:25 Really? Yeah. Yeah. I was a blue eye, your handsome guy. Yeah. I don't know. No. Well, first of all, I went through it.

Starting point is 00:19:33 Like there's a whole fat day of stage. Not that wasn't in high school, but I mean, I, I'm getting back to it because I'm getting old. But yeah, no, it's the truth. I tell you, you always hear like, you know, good looking people be like, no, I didn't do anything. Like I was ugly and like high school. No, I, I was like, I'm not like, though, I don't believe the good people like John

Starting point is 00:19:52 Hamm. Like, oh, I have it rough. My dick's too big. You know, like, no, that, I really didn't do well in high school. Yeah. I used to wear like an 80 gauge underpants just to hold them up. Yeah. Like that kind of shit.

Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. I hate that. Um, yeah. Do you remember like even just like, what about your first kiss in high school? It had to have happened, huh? Yeah. I, I'm trying to think, who did I kiss first? Uh, I don't even know if I remember it.

Starting point is 00:20:17 Couldn't have been anything. What do you mean, dude? You were a document tour of, no, I don't know. It couldn't have been that memorable. I'm honestly trying to think I don't, I don't know if that's like sad or what, but I, I honestly can't remember. Wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:32 Some people I remember locked us in this room and they had this girl and she had like a chip tooth. She had that kind of, that Lloyd Christmas on her, you know, or at least the Christmas coming. Your first kiss. It was like, were you playing like spinning the ball locked in a room or you just locked in the room? No, some disang, like kind of pervy older kids are like, you better get in there and

Starting point is 00:20:50 fucking kiss. You know what I'm saying? We're going to jerk off out here. And we're like, Jesus Christ. All right. It took a turn. And so, uh, but she had that Lloyd Christmas or at least she had the Lloyd. She had like that Lloyd Christmas Eve.

Starting point is 00:21:00 It was like a less of a chip, but she had that thing. And I remember God, she was also, she was like the first girl I ever remember really like seeing with my eyes and she was, her name was Chrissy and she was beautiful. I thought and just bite the teeth. Yeah. And so we had to sit next to each other and just kiss. Um, what about the first time you had sex? You remember it?

Starting point is 00:21:21 That I do. Yeah. We were talking. That's a little different than like a kiss. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't great. You know?

Starting point is 00:21:29 Oh yeah. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. When did it happen? College freshman. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:37 Big Dave getting out there, dude. Upgrading from, it was a girlfriend. Yeah. Okay. Was it at a party or was it like kind of a, uh, no, it was actually at, so it, it was at my house. It was actually summer going into college. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. I, I love, like, I love thinking about like those kind of like just like times when we're young and stuff like, yeah, there was nothing like that time getting ready for college. And then I almost feel like that was a time you feel like you had to like, you had to get sex active. If you were going into college. It was a college and you don't really know what you expect.

Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. No, I mean. It was like a romantic thing. Did y'all go to. No, it was romantic. It was definitely romantic. She was my girlfriend. So it was romantic.

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Starting point is 00:25:24 Potentially. Yeah. Oh, it was. Mine, people were throwing rocks at us, dude. And it was like, yeah, it was like trying to fuck on the Gaza Strip or something. People were fucking, it was like, it was hard. So were people like watching if they're throwing rocks at you? I wouldn't say they were watching, but they were checking in a lot.

Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah. You know? No, mine was not like that. Mine was probably pretty traditional. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I remember one time I got so nervous, some girl and I tried to have sex and I just couldn't, I just like, I remember just, I ended up ejaculating and, and then she left and she was embarrassed.

Starting point is 00:25:59 She climbed out of my window in my room too. I remember she was afraid to even like leave through the living room, I think. Oh, it was fucking embarrassing. Because why? I think. Why did she go through the window? I think she was maybe just, I don't know. I think it was just, the whole thing was a lot for everybody.

Starting point is 00:26:18 I think everybody was kind of, didn't know their way around the world right after it. It was just, it was like, we planned on it, we were excited and then I just, and so then you're sitting there with all, and you literally have your shame is right there like in a liquid. Yeah. You know, it's like, Hey, here's it. You're talking if you, if you bust, you're not fast. Oh yeah. I mean, I ejaculated immediately into my hand.

Starting point is 00:26:37 We're guys. Yeah. That's scientifically means you're like a good, right? Yeah. After the better. That's, that's how we're programmed. That's true. If we were like in the jungle days or something, we would be.

Starting point is 00:26:48 Do it. Move on. On to the next. That's how it goes. That's efficiency. I'd be Elon bust. Yeah. I'd be fucking.

Starting point is 00:26:56 It's true. Yeah. But yeah, I think at that point, everybody was so just confused. People weren't even using the doorway anymore. Like it was just that kind of thing, you know? Actually, if you pull up, look up a bowling alley, bowling in St. Tammany Parish. This place looks like it's the fucking bowling capital of the world. A lot of bowling alleys in a very short area.

Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. If you look on that one, Tiffany Lane's at 3.4 stars. Just click on that one. If you, oh man, there's a review somewhere and somebody wrote, so you can go to the first review on there. Oh, it's closed down. Yeah. Somebody sent me the other day.

Starting point is 00:27:37 It says like, sometimes there's like, oh, there you go. This was like the top question on there. I'm here because of, oh, Theo Vaughn became a man behind this building. It was just a crazy thing. One of my friends said, hey, I'm looking for a place to bowl locally and this came up. And the top thing says that Theo Vaughn became. So it's like a known fact. This is where you lost your Virginia.

Starting point is 00:28:01 Picking up splits. In America's. Love it. Interesting, man. Yeah. I was just kind of wondering like what maybe you were like when you were younger, you know. Yeah. It's like I said, traditional.

Starting point is 00:28:11 I don't very, very forgettable, probably a lot of, a lot of people like me, normal, normal grown, played sports, ran with like the, the part of the crowd in school, but just one of the guys. Yeah. You love sports now. It seems to be like something you really love. Do you really, really love it? Do you love just the gambling?

Starting point is 00:28:30 Do you love sports? Yeah. So I always love sports. I love gambling. Right. And obviously it's what we do now. So that worked out. Like before I started Barstool, I was trying.

Starting point is 00:28:39 I want to get into that industry. Right. Yeah. I flew out to Vegas, tried to do all the stuff. So it's worked out perfectly for me. I'm probably like one of the few guys who's made money through gambling. Most people get wiped out. So yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:50 No, I'm a big sports fan and obviously it's been a core part of what we do. So it makes me like I'm not, maybe I'm not getting arrested and going to jail. If we're not doing Barstool, I'm not like that crazy if I was just sitting around as a normal fan. Okay. But I love sports. Yeah. Boston sports guy through and through.

Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. Do you think that they should have legal gambling like everywhere? Because I know you guys work with, your gambling site is understates. Barstool Sports. So it's Barstool Sportsbook. Okay. Barstool Sportsbook. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:21 And they even have bars like, I was in Baton Rouge and they have like a Barstool Sportsbook bar. In the casino. Yeah. Yeah. Because so we were bought by a company called Penn and they have LaBerge. We also have like standalone. So we're actually getting one here in Nashville.

Starting point is 00:29:32 Oh, really? Yeah. They'll be a Barstool Sports bar. It's where like the old Joe's Crab Shack used to be. Oh, nice. So it's a good spot. So I think it will eventually go most states, but it, so gambling became legal to bet on sports outside of Vegas, maybe two years ago, two and a half, something like that.

Starting point is 00:29:51 They repealed some federal law and now it's up to the state. So they just decide state by state. So I think we're live in like maybe 11 or 12 states. And do you lobby for that somehow or are you just, that's just let the world do that? Our parent company lobbies for it and all the different companies that are involved in it lobby for it. And then there's people lobby against it. So I have nothing to do with it.

Starting point is 00:30:12 But yeah, there's a lot of politics and going around it with that. Do you get more joy out of making like a big wager on one thing or hitting like a crazy parlay? You know? I don't do as much as parlay. So like betting on one thing, winning it. I mean, I've bet my whole life. So it's just, but yeah, no, it's, I love it.

Starting point is 00:30:29 I love gambling. Yeah. You like to gamble. Like, do you feel like that that's just like a thing you like to do just with sports or even like kind of with everything, like you kind of like to go kind of like the alternate route a little bit? Yeah. It's I definitely even barstool.

Starting point is 00:30:43 Like I think being an entrepreneur kind of is like gambling different, different respect. But I saw our barstool with nothing really and everything we made, we put back into it for the most part work. But you know, we did concert. I thought we're going out of business at one point because that put all our money into like a concert tour and it kind of who was it, like third eye blind or something? No, believe it or not. So we did this thing.

Starting point is 00:31:05 We had never left downtown Boston ever and and I was like, all right, we got to see if we're big outside of Boston and we had liquor sponsors at the time and they were like, well, you know, we can't sponsor you if you're going to colleges and we're like, well, what if we make it a music tour? Could you? They said, yeah. So we had this kid Sam Adams. It kind of blew up and he's got some big songs.

Starting point is 00:31:26 We did it. We did six, six stops and it went really well, bigger than we ever thought. And I looked at it. So we originally thought we're going like frats and we go to UMass and the actual school calls are like, hey, we're getting all these requests for tickets. What is this? So we went from the frat to the actual like Mullen Center, which is the gymnasium sold out in a second.

Starting point is 00:31:49 My brain's going to the business side, it's like, hey, if I can recreate this with like big talent, I may be onto something. So we had a music tour is headlined by Mike Posner. Do you remember like cooler than me at the time? I saw Mike two weeks ago. Yeah. So that song just came out. He was the headliner.

Starting point is 00:32:07 It was him, Wale, I had Mac Miller for 1500 bucks. That's how much we were paying him to play. So he was the third guy coming up on it and nobody fucking. Well, people bought tickets, same amount as the first time we went around. It turned out our crowd, they weren't coming necessarily for who we're booking. They're coming because Barstool was on it. We got fucking wiped out. I actually hated Posner.

Starting point is 00:32:31 He didn't promote the shit. He didn't promote it all, not his fault, his agent's fault. So that was a disaster. And then we moved from that because it was kind of like, all right, if people are coming for Barstool, not the talent doesn't really matter and we went into EDM. So you lost your butt on that? Smoked. Because you had to pay the act so much?

Starting point is 00:32:53 Pay the act and I rented the buildings. So we were going. I was paying like. Yeah. The big on that building. Like a hundred grand or something a night and we weren't doing it. I thought I was going to have to pay the full thing. We had to cancel a lot of the shows.

Starting point is 00:33:06 So that was a disaster and then we came up with something called the blackout tour, which essentially was a DJ playing EDM music. This is at the infancy of EDM and it exploded. Like to the point we had, I bought all our own production. You could go to an EDM show. It looked like ours. We had a full crew doing it. I thought.

Starting point is 00:33:28 And were you into it? Were you like doing the pills and everything? Were you like partying? No, we had, I would, we did three shows a week throughout the country. Like we had a whole crew driving around, setting up the lights, renting venues. I thought, I thought I was going to become so rich that I'd be like Bezos and retire. We were clearing like 250 grand a show. It was nuts and we weren't paying for talent.

Starting point is 00:33:50 So we're charging 50 bucks a ticket, selling out literally. And it was just like an EDM party show. So this crew, so you guys were just in Boston and this crew is now traveling doing shows for you. Correct. Like, have you ever heard of there's a festival like bamboozle? It's a big festival in New Jersey. So the Bonnaroo bamboozle is like one of those type things.

Starting point is 00:34:10 And we were on a call with Live Nation, I'll never forget this call, like we want you to close the last music they had was Bon Jovi, like we want you to come on after Bon Jovi and close it. Like we'll pay you 250 grand just to show up. And before we could say anything, like we know it's not a lot of money, it's cheap, but you'll introduce your music to so many new people. And I was like, wait, wait, we don't have music. We're talking about, there's no one to, like, what do you mean you have no music?

Starting point is 00:34:36 The only thing they saw was our ticket sales in their system. Whenever we put tickets, they were gone in 10 seconds. So we like did that, turned into a phone thing, but that was because of the barstool name again. Correct. So you're still like, we're just selling EDM. Yeah, dude, because where I'm from, if somebody showed up with damn two laser lights and a fucking flood beam, dude, people would pay $50 and get out there.

Starting point is 00:34:55 They went nuts for it. They went and it was like we had Avicii like playing our thing for like no money. It was before the DJ thing took off. Okay. So you did actually have talent coming to this. Yeah, we rotate, but we won't pay a lot. We paid maybe two grand for Avicii. It was before the DJ boom.

Starting point is 00:35:16 Then the DJ boom started happening and a couple of things happened. We had our name and we're always sort of controversial, but if somebody OD'd at EDM Vegas, we would be mentioned. It'd be like barstool blackout or part of this and people would be calling me. Just went through the roof and news crews were following like our production around just looking for controversy. So the whole thing as quick as it came, it disappeared. So because of insurance, really?

Starting point is 00:35:45 Insurance, EDM, it went from there'd be one EDM show at a college a month to there were three a week and we were playing Avicii's music and Avicii was going to be there tomorrow. So a whole host of factors. And I was investing. This is the gambling part. Every cent I made, I'm like, let's get the next biggest laser. Let's get this. Let's get that.

Starting point is 00:36:05 So we put it all back in. At the end of the day, we're probably net even. We didn't make money. We didn't lose money. Wow. When it comes to the business sense, was that a tough thing to realize? Even just as my own business and world has grown, it's tough sometimes to realize, especially if you don't come from a lot, to reinvest in stuff.

Starting point is 00:36:23 Is that always, I mean, obviously in that instance, it kind of evened out. But is that like been a tough thing for you to realize or is that like, what? No, for me, that's been like, that's just something I think that's in my blood that goes back to the gambling. Like I've made money. I don't think I need money. Like I didn't have any for a long time. Not that I was like living like I could eat, but no, I just have a risk taker of personality.

Starting point is 00:36:52 So I never, I'm always like pushing things into the middle. Now I'm at a different stage in my life. So when I risk it all now, I've been doing this for 20 years, be like, if I thought there was a huge opportunity, I'm going to put everything back, probably not. But at that point, we're still pushing. Yeah. That's so cool, man, because you kind of became like this guy who's like, I'll fucking put it on the table right now, you know, even throughout like the pandemic and stuff, like

Starting point is 00:37:18 the way you were like kind of, you know, you were championing, like keeping small businesses open and what are we doing here? Not afraid to interview Trump or to talk about, you know, conservative like views or even look at them, you know, when, when a lot of the world was like mainstream media was like kind of shunning them. Do you get, is that kind of a little bit of the high? Cause I'm just wondering like, cause gambling is kind of a high, but there's a little bit of high and fucking gambling with yourself as well.

Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. That's always, you know, we never look for fights with that stuff. I'm pretty, I'm pretty much a free speaker. I have had to tone it down, uh, which is I got a lot of haters out there and I always say that probably the number one benefit they have that they don't realize is that pen, the gambling kind of bought us because we are regulated. So it's, it's the first time since I've been doing barstool, people can sort of get at me through a side door, like I don't care what you fucking say about me.

Starting point is 00:38:12 I really don't. And I have thick skin and if you're going to come at me, I'll come at you. Like I've done things that not, like I've staked out fucking a New York times reporter, like who was, I know digging through my fucking past and life and trying to like really write a nasty hit piece about me. It's like, if you want to fucking talk to me, let's fucking talk. And I wait, I did like a 48 hours. Like I literally parked my car with my camera guy outside the house for like six hours and

Starting point is 00:38:39 just waited for them to come out, ran out and like confronted them. Um, I like doing that. I like. I just, it's like I'm a confrontational person by nature. So that, that part of me has always been there. I have had to tone it down a little bit because I don't barstool so much bigger than just me now and what I do does affect other people. Um, and I see it like I go on Fox news, I'll go and talk to Carlson and he knows I'm not

Starting point is 00:39:07 overly like political, but every time I go on there, that affects how people view the whole company and some people may have different views, whatever. So that, that I do sort of pay attention to, it still doesn't affect necessarily what I do. Like people are mad within our company that I interviewed Trump, right? But you know, you're going to make decisions you think are right at the time. Yeah. Dude, it was a fun, that interview was so funny man when he was like, you're like, you ever

Starting point is 00:39:32 just rattle off a tweet and then just kind of, he's like, I still think I'm the only guy who's ever gotten him to say like, yeah, I regret something. He was, he's like, yeah, I do regret it. I don't know that he's ever been like, I regret something in his life except for that. Yeah. It was so good. But he's like, yeah, you know, you just write it and go to sleep. And then you wake up and you're like, what the fuck did I write?

Starting point is 00:39:50 He's like, yeah, I've done that. I've done that. He was, listen, people have such strong opinions about him. I think right off the bat, he kind of realized I wasn't like out to be like, gotcha. So he was, he was good with me. He was down to earth. He was, he was not like his guard wasn't up. It was surreal experience.

Starting point is 00:40:10 Oh, yeah. I can only imagine. Watching, watching that interview and watching you sit there, I'm like, God, dude, that would be so like, first of all, Dave's doing this, you know, like he's actually going and like, you know, whereas everybody else was just like making fun of Trump or not even giving him a chance. I mean, mainstream media did not, I mean, he didn't help himself at certain points, but they didn't help him out of the gate or give him a chance, but you're right there.

Starting point is 00:40:34 It's sort of, there's definitely a similarity with him and how it's like, if you come at him, he'll be a dick 10 times harder back to you. When you're president, that can cause like issues like, I have so many things that people still bring up with me and they'll bring up quotes or whatever, and somebody who came after me and I'm being like so sarcastic and an asshole back to them, and then they take what it is. So I see it, but you're right, he's, you know, he's the, he was the president. So like, I'm not the president.

Starting point is 00:41:08 So I can do a lot of things, I'm not trying to be presidential. And I think some people are like, well, you should be, and he, he's a totally different cat. Oh, I remember when he was running, I thought right at the beginning, I was like, he's going to win. I was like, he just sounds like he just, it seemed like it's not a part of a bigger plan, you know? But then I wonder once he got an office, did, is it just too convoluted in there or was

Starting point is 00:41:30 he just kind of overshooting his own mark or did, you know, that's what I kind of wonder, because in the beginning, he was kind of like, even though he wasn't really like this came from nothing kind of guy, he was kind of talking to a lot of people that I think felt under represented or, you know, people who want some tradition in the country, you know. And it's like he was dismissed by so many people. And I think that almost made him more popular with the people he was resigning like any way you look at, he won the election. So there's a large, large, large portion of the country he was speaking to and people

Starting point is 00:42:06 are so dismissive. If you weren't on his side, if you like Trump, you're like a racist asshole idiot. Yeah. Like so crazy. So you're saying like more than half the country are those people now, I'm sure there's definitely a subsection within his demo that do fit that description, but certainly not everybody. And you just paint everybody with one brush and actually made them more popular doing that.

Starting point is 00:42:29 Oh, for sure. But he's intentionally divisive, which, you know, I want people to get along. So that's where I kind of lose it. Like, and it's not just him. It's both sides. It's like, you need somebody who at least honestly wants to bring people together. And that, I don't know who that's going to fucking be. That's a good point.

Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. You do. And it's not Biden because he's so dismissive of the people who do like Trump. It's like, they're just, everything's now, it is. So that sucks. It is. It takes away almost half the dating pool. I think for a lot of people too.

Starting point is 00:43:03 I think about that sometimes. It does. You know, like it used to be, you know, every, it used to be, it didn't matter so much. If someone like you'd have husbands and wives at a different political, it was just kind of whatever. Yeah. No, it's toxic now. It's gotten weird.

Starting point is 00:43:19 Would you ever run for like a governor or something? Fuck no. I ran for mayor of Boston. Oh, you did. Yeah. I didn't know that. I tried to, they fucking blackballed me. So, I'm always Boston shit.

Starting point is 00:43:31 They did. They did. This is, I'm telling, I was doing that black. People get blackballed, all kind of stuff. I was doing the blackout tour they told you about. Okay. So we rented these venues. House of Blues is a venue of Boston, like 3,000 people.

Starting point is 00:43:44 We sold it out, I think seven straight days in like 30 seconds. We were doing it. So there's a ton of schools in Boston. So like, hey, Monday, it's a BU Barcel blackout, Tuesday, BC, Wednesday, Northeastern. So all the kids at each school would buy it, sold out instantly. The police were so fucking, like, bat, they were breathless. Have you ever heard of kids getting breathless in line, going down the line? If we sold 3,000 tickets, like 20 kids got into the show.

Starting point is 00:44:11 Everyone else too drunk, this, that. I was like, this is fucking bullshit. So, I'm like, I'm going to run for mayor, so they can't do this shit to me anymore. And you had to basically get, what was it, like 12,000 signatures to get on the ballot. Now, there's two parts of the signatures. You had to be able to read the signature and the person had to be a registered voter. I hired a full blown agency that you have professional people get it, like get the signatures. We had like 20,000, they just ruled 10,000 of them didn't count.

Starting point is 00:44:44 There's no way to appeal. There's no nothing. So I didn't make it onto the ballot. But yeah, I was like trying to do it. That's wild. But other than that, no. Who needs that? I don't, who would ever, I've used this quote, like the movie Gladiator, when Maximus, it's

Starting point is 00:45:00 the king or wants Maximus to be the leader of Rome. He's like, no thanks, dude. Who wants that headache? And he's like, that's exactly why you have to do it. Who would, who in their right mind would want to be in politics? Well, like the person who want politics should be somebody who's not doing it for ego, who truly cares about like the well-being of the people, not doing it to money, get rich. None of the politicians do that.

Starting point is 00:45:28 Because why would you? Like I never understood that with Trump. Like you're this rich dude, nobody really hates you. Like people actually kind of loved you on the apprentice. Like you have no ill will, he's gonna go down as one of the most hated dudes who ever lived. Like why? He just, I guess ego. Like, yeah, maybe that's ego.

Starting point is 00:45:46 I mean, I could see it. If somebody could say you get to be president, everybody wants to be, you know, or a little bit. For you? I mean, maybe for like, you know, a couple hours, I don't know if I would do a full term. You know, like I think I'd want to be in the office and like walk down and see like the long curtains. Well, that's ego.

Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, that's ego. Yeah, that's it, which is cool. But the amount of hate and the like, I get so much hate and it's all political. Like people who don't like me always, if you don't like Dave Porter, I can go to your Twitter and within three, you have something political on your timeline. And it's like, who needs that? Now, I don't know how isolated like these guys are. Like when I went and visited Trump, you know, everyone's so pro-Trump, it's like he maybe

Starting point is 00:46:27 doesn't even, the hate doesn't get to him on a level. I don't know. But no, I won't never run. Yeah. But do you think 10 years from now, you're like, I am not fucking around you. No fucking way. Wow. No.

Starting point is 00:46:39 I would, I mean, I guess part of me would like to see you have, but then also, I sometimes feel like politics is just this like, it's this, this shell company for actual real leaders, which is a lot of it is in the tech world these days. Yeah. And even if you look at like, you mentioned the Barstool Fund, which we gave away 50 million basically. Wow. Like the government couldn't do that.

Starting point is 00:47:04 They move so fucking slow. Oh, it's horrible. They actually want to get stuff done, it's way easier to do it the way I did it, which is we just set it up 24 hours later, the money's going in, and the second the money comes in, the money's going out, they did, the government basically did nothing for like small business. They're still talking about now and so much fraud with the PPP and shit like that. So I don't know.

Starting point is 00:47:28 It's hard. Yeah. And if you really want to get stuff done, you can get stuff done not within, you know, the government. Well, it's almost becoming more like that, I think, in America these days. It's like, there's all the, like, you know, there's a few kinds, there's less companies, there's less mom and pop places, there's just a few larger companies. What sucks.

Starting point is 00:47:49 Oh, totally, man. It's ridiculous. I wish we had never done so much globalization. I don't know a lot about that kind of stuff, but it's like, you know, the kid down the street, it used to be their dad worked at the factory in the town and they were proud of like, if their dad's factory made tables, they were proud of the table they had in their house. My dad made this, you know, and there was like a sense of like, you were doing something

Starting point is 00:48:09 now, your table comes from China, you have no idea, the dad's doing pills, the kid is in the other room, you know, cooking pills. And then there's a guy in China making a table is to get shipped off. He never sees it. They're just like, I mean, it's kind of a very small example, but no, that was as small as we look for like generational and that was what is so sad about it. Like nobody's helping these people. It really was crazy.

Starting point is 00:48:33 It's like, Hey, you can't have customers, right? But we're not going to give you the money. So like, what do they think is going to happen? Like that, that to me was always the wildest part. Yeah. And again, I mean, you've built up your career over the time. The Barstool was the same. I always looked at like, I worked my dick off to get where I was.

Starting point is 00:48:52 And then if something that's so far out of control and it's just vanishes like that and nobody's there to like, that is what the government in my mind, that's what it's fucking for. Like that is what we're paying taxes on this shit. It was nowhere to be found. If you want to keep shit closed, fine, but you better figure out how to take care of the people who need things to be open or let people make their own decisions. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:15 I agree. I mean, I go to a lot of like recovery meetings and stuff and they closed all those recovery rooms, right? Right. That's crazy. Bro, I had no joke. I had five, maybe six friends that overdosed and died during the pandemic, right? Died like, and it was, and people were like, well, it's not cause, but they need those

Starting point is 00:49:31 rooms. Like they just fucking shut it down. Like, what do you think people, I'd rather have COVID than, you know, overdose. And to me, all that was always my point. It's like, you let, let people decide. Right. Like if you were, you know, like my parents or whoever, like scared of COVID, you do have the option of staying inside, like nobody's coming into your house.

Starting point is 00:49:52 You can, you can live your life pretty safely. I get it. I mean, it was crazy fucking. It's like a horror movie. Who knows? Yeah. Funerals over zoom. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:50:02 Like, what the fuck is going on? It's crazy. It's crazy time. Yeah. Crazy time. And then I talked to my friends in Mexico and they're like, yeah, nobody's doing shit down here, dude. We're fucking partying.

Starting point is 00:50:11 We're shooting each other. We're fucking having a blast, you know? We're drinking. We're shooting each other. I mean, not, you know, not shoot, you know, or you probably grazing each other, but there's a lot of violence down there. Um, today's episode is brought to you by better help. We are grateful for their support and I'm grateful for what they do.

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Starting point is 00:53:33 cat who's your you know if you hired him or he was a partner no no we hired him okay yep you know Glenny balls Wow was there Caleb big cat and Glenny balls and put in getting put in that category is pretty fucking high level for their better guys I don't know and big Freddie or whatever who's the guy that's like the tank yeah that yeah yeah wait listen we've hired a bet the under on him huh he's a big dude he'll surprise you that's like you don't think he'll fit in an airplane seat and he can't so he'll he'll shock you we had Jenna marbles do you know her yeah yeah she came from us really yeah dude I was in love with her dude yeah hired her of a tanning salon oh I could see that McAfee Pat McAfee

Starting point is 00:54:21 was us really yeah we've had we have a pretty good like roster how do you pick talent like do you like now obviously people end up usually speaking mostly of people's successes right do you feel like you've had a good eye for it or do you feel like you've had just as many hits and misses what do you think no we definitely have a good eye for it we have misses for sure I think though the biggest thing we have an eye for it and we don't control people at all so you know we hire somebody and there's like you do you and and hopefully they find out where like Caleb use an example like we saw him he was running up and down the sidelines of North Carolina he was like because they wouldn't because he never started

Starting point is 00:55:02 yet and he wasn't even uniform his title was like I think the professor of morale or director of morale so he had his blonde hair he'd wear like a ex North Carolina professional football player was now in the league their number and we saw him on TV like who the fuck is this kid we had him on one of our shows like oh he's got a weird brain that's what we say like we look for weird brains yeah guys and we hired him and it's like yeah do whatever you want and you know he kind of he was always talented and funny bounced around kind of trying to find his niche and then he the Sunday conversation which is now his kind of trademark thing and is great that took a couple years for him to like fit that exact perfect role and we

Starting point is 00:55:46 just let people sort of do that so I think it's the combo we have a good eye for talent but more so we we are so free and letting and I don't know if that's just we're lazy or whatever but we never tell people right what to do it's like you're hired we'll give you the resources do whatever you want and we've had a lot of hits because of it like PMT which is big cat yeah dude like that was all his idea I mean totally like I thought podcasts when when I first heard about podcasts a guy Kevin Clancy has been with us forever oh yeah yeah like that's a stupid idea podcast you'll never make money doing that but they fucking did it and obviously they were smarter than me right our daddy that came from us yeah

Starting point is 00:56:27 yeah Alice Cooper so yeah we've had a lot of a lot a lot of big big successful people that really were I mean McAfee played in the NFL but no one knew him on the media side a lot of big people that million dollars worth of game is a huge like urban podcast with us right now so yeah we've had a lot of big successes was there someone that you can you turn the heat on I broke out my scarf game for that I want I want to become a scarf guy yeah really yeah oh that's a move yeah like yeah it is this is the first time kind of debuting going with it but yeah it's good I took I was taken off in the car I'm like you know what I'm gonna try and maybe get into the scarf phase of my life there is something

Starting point is 00:57:10 nice it feels like it almost you feel a little bit regal or you feel like at least they'll let you in a department store and I'm starting to like fat it kind of like you say that on a video the other day you were saying how like yeah I'm sorry I put on weight it comes at the age so it's like I I've been eating doing the pizza thing forever my shoulders all fuck so yeah I think it's just you know life yeah was there a was there a higher or a fire something because I wanted to say this yeah Caleb whenever I got to know Caleb one thing he raves about is that he loves working for you yeah he he's he's been great I think I mean he genuinely like you know what I'm saying like some people say my job but he

Starting point is 00:57:51 has I mean he absolutely loves it I think it's two things for him that probably he likes working for us me is the freedom which I just said and I always do what I say so I have the back of the talent as much as I can always but like if I say something it's it's bond I actually think in his contract he has something like when Penn bought us he's like if there's a disagreement between Penn and me or something like Dave gets to make the final decision he just so he just trusts that he is good to work for somebody where you you know you can trust like they have your best interest and I do and some people may not like what I say or do but I'm pretty straightforward and the track record is like there like 20

Starting point is 00:58:39 years I've been pretty consistently straightforward honest truthful yeah is there a hire or a departure that you regret or that you like somebody that you let go or anything or did you have any no I mean we hired Mike Rappaport this is a big fucking I don't like that guy right now he doesn't like me he doesn't like me that was at the ball I literally if I throw a punch I've never been a fight my life never thrown a punch in anger I threw a punch right now with my left arm it would dislocate that's how fucked up my shoulders are he got me so mad I sent him a contract to fight him like that's how fucking that ended terribly the McAfee thing with us didn't end great but like I don't really have regrets he was always

Starting point is 00:59:23 going to be like a huge star on his own he's so good at so many things so no not not too much yeah I mean we've become to a degree and I always had a Saturday Night Live model like we bring unknown talent and try to make him stars and we'll keep them as long as we can keep them but really you know if we can't hopefully they go become big somewhere else and it adds more credibility for us right because then people like oh this is a place where I can get a start and build my name and either stay with Barthel or not we've been pretty good at that like we got a girl now Brianna chicken fry she's fucking exploding like yeah she's she's becoming big so yeah we yeah she's cute I saw on your thing is

Starting point is 01:00:05 she is that Native American what is chicken fry that was just she likes chicken fries like you know like the I think it was Burger King right chicken fries chicken fries yeah so oh it's not a last name no no that was her when we hired her she already had like Brianna chicken fries was her tiktok user handle oh okay I think she liked chicken fries you have a native night what's up she likes eating late at night probably yeah yeah yeah oh I was wondering yeah I thought maybe she was like Cherokee I imagine that'd be like your Native American name chicken fry I'll be fucking fire yeah yeah I almost knocked up this Native American girl one time so I met this girl in a motel right so how does that work like

Starting point is 01:00:50 is there like a just two motels have like motel bars or like you just start walking around oh no no this girl we met on social media right and this probably yesterday I might have even been oh it was an intentional meetup yeah so she drove I think like 10 or 11 hours too and she drove from like she was a red flag oh yeah yeah it was and she was a Native American and so she drove in and she and we ended up making love or whatever I don't remember exactly what happened but then on the drive home I guess she got kind of bored and she starts saying well if I'm pregnant I'm gonna keep this child although to her defense you probably do have a lot of time to think on a 10 hour drive that's a good point that's

Starting point is 01:01:38 actually what if things go through your mind yeah I should have given her at least five hours to be hypothetically pregnant yeah yeah yeah like a 10 hour drive you're you're you're thinking a lot of shit yeah yeah especially when you're just driving back to the res or whatever and as you just get back there there's a bunch of free gasoline from the government and you're like what the fuck am I gonna do with this family you know if I have a family but anyway she got intense and god that made me so nervous did you um because you got into a relationship you're you are I was married I'm in a relationship now okay in a relationship now and was it did you were you looking for a relationship or did it just kind of happen

Starting point is 01:02:14 which one does my current girlfriend current girlfriend no no um so like my ex-wife basically I met when I started Barcel right about the same time and I'm still like best friends or she's the best uh and then I was single for a while probably uh living a crazier lifestyle yeah like it was a totally different time because Barcel was nothing and they're to it obviously like being well known fame money brings more women and opportunities in your life so I've seen you fucking on Twitter a little at some point I had seen something you know yeah I didn't watch all of it there's some stuff out there that you know I'm good for you man you know I get embarrassed like if I'm had I even walk out of the room backwards

Starting point is 01:03:00 because I don't want women seeing my butt and stuff no I was a big video guy like that that probably and back in time is like who the fuck whatever want to watch me fuck so yeah but so I don't know five years single and then just met her uh Sylvanas her name it was pretty organic yeah and do you is it kind of less stressful because I've start to find that like like as you start you don't want to just like hook up with strangers it gets a little bit like scary kind of like you know it's like I don't want a child like a even a possible child somewhere yeah I know I was pretty free and loose uh I would never like in hindsight I was probably a fucking idiot because there's a lot of a lot of post shit

Starting point is 01:03:49 that I've dealt with that a lot of people know about me I mean I you know hit pieces were written about me about my sexual activity sex they've I've had it all which I never would have guessed for like fucking me like doubt if if someone back in high school is like wait till you fucking see what this guy's gonna turn out to be like I would have never fucking guessed it uh so yeah I was probably playing uh fast and loose is how I would describe it but whatever it's um it's been a wild ride I'll say that yeah it's been exciting man I think it seems like it's really been exciting do you feel like a pressure like I feel a pressure as I get older to try and stay like younger and stuff does that feel hard for

Starting point is 01:04:26 you does it no no I I feel like it's been a fairly natural thing like I so I probably crammed so much into that five years of being single like go I never went to clubs really ever and then I started going out a lot and you know I went from the guy who's like with his buddies if you're trying to save up to go out once I how the fuck am I gonna afford this table only fucking losers would pay for that table all our girls are there but it's like I can't fucking afford this to you know you're getting opportunity like I remember I was just saying on the way over like Super Bowl is coming up and I'm getting every invite in the book like hey come to this party you have a table here hit table there and I sent

Starting point is 01:05:06 it to this guy Paul Gazz who's who's been employee basically number one worked out my kitchen table we went to a Super Bowl party and we had to pay 25 grand for a table for us that's like do we have it credit card can we do it and they fucking put us in a satellite room we weren't even in the room where the fucking party was happening and we were watching the party on a TV and I know I sent him the link I'm like man times have changed we're getting but so I did that phase I mean I was doing drugs I was going out all the time it was just like a very different phase in my life now I really don't like being in clubs at all like I still vona my girlfriend still loves it but I've toned it I've gone heard

Starting point is 01:05:46 me like listen I can't I don't want to be there like it's not where I want to be I don't feel comfortable I actually do feel old in those situations yeah the first time my life I look around like damn a fucking old guy in here so that part of my life I think is pretty much in the rear of you like Super Bowl yeah I'll go out but I mean I was going out fuck four or five days a week pretty pretty heavy pretty heavy and will you party and could you party pretty hard or not yeah I was I never I never used to but yeah we are doing drugs to cocaine I'm not a coke guy people always think I'm a coke guy I'm pretty honest about I think it's the hair probably this looks like a hair oh the hair it looks like

Starting point is 01:06:29 I'll find a gram in it son yeah like a wall like a wet hair maybe now especially since you live in Florida maybe that adds to it like you think like oh this guy yeah no I was I was doing a lot at all would be like I do a lot just to even wake up work I guess he's the best drug there is like you know I never get like depressed on it but no I was never big on coke but like for me to be out I don't know how people I mean what you Miami doesn't fucking close oh yeah Miami's insane man so you're there even the trees man you'll walk by two trees will be it literally like is like you walk out of 11 and there's a fucking line at 9 a.m. it's just I don't even know what people do how you work and what are you

Starting point is 01:07:16 doing and people will start going out it's like hey you won't go out 11 it's like sure you're gonna be the only fucker in the club like nobody's out yet so it's a super late city and yeah I was I was definitely partying I was definitely partying dude a friend of mine got all coked up one night fell off of his balcony right landed on another balcony right and T.I. the rapper came out and found him T.I. is a big T.I. is a big big Miami guy yeah yeah there's all sorts of shit I remember I was like who was it ah who's the Miami guy is always I was at 11 there's another rapper who was always in Miami whatever whoever this guy he's a big rapper I and the camera guy came up I moved out of the way he's like

Starting point is 01:08:05 hey this guy ruins the story not knowing him I'll probably think of it put Miami rapper look up Google Miami rapper is he was he thick guy no he's a little guy okay oh it might be y'all what's his name who has that same beat over and over again but he's from Atlanta that guy he wears the the green gloves in that one video ludicrous no no no Pitbull Sean Kingston no no he's a little skinny guy oh oh he's been around forever but he's like still super popular Nelly this is gonna bother the fuck out of me not Nelly who play guess that rapper see I almost it was similar I'll be schmurder no no feel like it was keep going down he's Hulk Hogan no not a rapper Jason Derulo I did pizza review him though he seems

Starting point is 01:09:03 like a nice guy he was he ate pizza with no no cheese though which is why you know who told me the earth was flat two black guys at a pizza parlor the earth was flat first time ever heard it that's Kyrie uh yeah it might have been who the fuck am I thinking of cat Dahlia lives in Miami he actually just he I want to say it was with a T too but I can't remember trick daddy no I like that song though take it to the house my who whatever the story is fucking ruined yeah it's ruined forget the fucking dude I did on with the Paris Fashion Week last week right and which is crazy yeah which is crazy right so this guy comb the lane he's like a fashion guy right he makes fashion so he had comedians come and be in his fashion

Starting point is 01:10:02 show Andrew Schultz went a couple of other guys and it's the fashion finally was at like 11 p.m. and Kodak black is sitting in there with a baby in the front row he you all-time name drops I was credited in Kodak black getting pardoned by Trump were you really yes he credited you Trump mentioned with some convoluted like Kodak black actually reached out to me like during the barstool fun I think he donated and then Trump when he part of me is like Kodak black donated to like Dave Portland the barstool fun he's like a good guy yeah a little blurb I was like what the fuck world am I in like Kodak black Trump crazy yeah everything's crazy now does it excite you or does it scare you like how everything

Starting point is 01:11:03 the lines are so blurred everything feels so crazy the news you can't trust the news anymore so there's conspiracy theories people are always like there's all these conspiracy theories but it's like a lot of it is because you can't rely on the news so I'm gonna try and get whatever they think the news is yeah no I the whole thing yeah that which I agree I don't trust the fucking news like everybody has an angle yeah I've said that but I don't even know where you go if you want like a non-spin take on yeah where the fuck do you go I don't know so yeah that that is just a way of life but I don't know I find it crazy everyone's just got an agenda yeah everybody every there's nobody who doesn't have an agenda

Starting point is 01:11:42 I know it's getting weird huh yeah big time I just wonder kind of how does that end you know or do we evolve out of it you know like everything's gotten so like me you know I don't know it's an interesting it definitely feels like an interesting time to be alive you got to go and do Joe Rogan experience that was your first time right yeah it was my first time well were you pretty nervous tell me about that yeah I I didn't know what to expect I really didn't because I was a huge podcast guy and people always I always got like hey you should go on Rogan yeah I'm not like ever somebody really necessarily I did ask to go on Rogan once and that was when all the fucking negative shit was happening I want to say my

Starting point is 01:12:20 case but I didn't know what to expect his studio was sick it was easy like and and I met the producer Jamie before he's like I know all the bar stool shit I have no idea what he's gonna talk about he may talk about all that none of it smoked a cigar I'm not a cigar I got like fucking weirdly high from smoke it's hard isn't it yeah it's like I am not a cigar guy in his studio it's like trippy right it's like with the little the lights and it went by quick my main thing honestly because I know he goes so long it's like if I go two hours that probably means he fucking didn't like me and like I'm out so once it ended I'm like how long was it but it was cool and it's so big you know you don't even

Starting point is 01:12:59 realize I mean I know how big he is because we're sorting the business but even still like after we did it so many people just walking on the street like oh listen to Rogan show the phone his reach is just crazy he's probably the most influential you know guy in media there is I think so I think it's been like that for a while yeah you know I think and especially people didn't realize that until he got that big contract that almost kind of I mean it was amazing for him and and he deserves it but when they put out that article that he made like a hundred million a year something yeah and I think it was twice that but that's when everybody like that's when people started attacking and that's when you

Starting point is 01:13:33 saw these hit pieces it's like it's just it's so dangerous kind of like I don't know the media is just so scary it's like they can shape anything any way they want and I he's definitely perceived as a threat because he's he uses escape velocity whatever but you can't control right if you can't control how somebody thinks and you really can't hurt them that that is a threat I think the attacks come when and why they came because what's the point really of going after him when he's a solo guy you don't give a fuck when you have Spotify there's a thought I can get to him now right because spotting now spot if I like pin yeah it's like Spotify backed him up but I mean he did have to delete it episodes and maybe

Starting point is 01:14:26 say things that ordinarily if it was by himself maybe would have maybe he wouldn't have but I think that is that's the switch it's like aha he kind of has to answer to somebody now whether he actually does or he doesn't but somebody sign in his checks right for nobody is so what's the point of going at what is that going to do because you may just actually ignite more because he doesn't give a fuck his audience is his audience yeah that would be to me the gif difference and why it happened when he did that yeah um yeah I remember when I first went in dude I was nervous I got a tweet a tweet a dm from him in the middle like and just like 11pm or something but I was going a bit early so it was like middle

Starting point is 01:15:03 of the night but um and it was like hey do you want to call my show and I remember being like oh my god I was excited too when I got it yeah because if you people always hit me up like hey can you have me get on earth and it's like there's no real way to get on like Joe like will literally hit people up that's exactly how he does it it was mine so the New York Times wrote basically a hit piece on me and they were working on it for a year I knew about it they dug through my entire fucking past like so trashed with that fucking ragged trash every single person that I was a friends with in my network they were reaching I was having girls call me like I didn't even know or send me dms being like what is this

Starting point is 01:15:42 about um a year long they really found nothing and it turned into just like again like I'm a scumbag gambling hit piece the point of the story the reporter wrote in the article like we reached out today for comment he didn't reach back and I posted my exchanges with this woman and they went back I think seven months where I'm like hey I know you're digging into my past I will sit down meet with you we both get to record you can ask me anything I'll answer anything you want I'm right here she kept responding I'm eager to meet soon soon this went on for months of her being like I'm eager to meet with you I'll talk to you soon ghost for like I don't know five six article she writes a whole article she like

Starting point is 01:16:23 you have 48 hours to respond to a million bullet points and like fuck that it's like I gave you the opportunity and I posted the exchange Rogan saw that and he's like the New York Times it's the worst and that that prompted it and actually I have my phone so I she never is the reporter never responded I wrote her name is Emily steel this lady who wrote the article on me this is Friday January 13th I just tweeted a thank you for the hit piece you wrote on me it's what landed me on Rogan and introduced a brand new audience to me thank you for being a hater it actually made my brand stronger than ever thank you so just center that little fuck for you yeah they fucking do that shit man they do that

Starting point is 01:17:04 shit they sneak around people call somebody call your old employer it's crazy and it's like I've always said hey I'm here like I'm I'm saying I'll sit down you can ask me fucking anything and record it as long as I can too if you're trying to do a fair and what's crazy like I grew up in a in my brain like the New York Times is like legit yeah that is what I thought of the New York Times so I always look at that unless you're in this fucking world and you're like part of it like even my dad who's a liberal hates fucking Trump that type of guy like he still has a hard time be like yeah the New York Times is biased like he almost has it because he's seen it but it it it is scary because if you're not

Starting point is 01:17:46 in it you just believe like most normal people aren't gonna do the back research no on a hit piece they're gonna go that's true so that that part of it is fucking scary well to even like even headlines and anything yeah if somebody writes like Larry's gay and you see that as the headline be like damn dude right because Larry's gay you hear Larry's gay yeah Larry's fucking gay they didn't even know who they didn't even look at if who it is if it's Lawrence or who it is yeah no that is nobody it's just like and then it's like and there's never any apology that's the weirdest thing you're like your ear there's never any like recuperate or any so business insider who I fucking hate wrote a hit piece

Starting point is 01:18:26 on me and it was vicious basically made me sound like a rapist and like within 24 hours I had all the receipts like oh it thank God of like well here's all the proof that this is totally fucking bullshit I was I guess naive at the time like oh they're gonna retract it say apology they said they wrote another article and my lawyer was like well they can now say it's news it's like well it's only news because they fucking wrote it but it becomes new it's like what what kind of fucked up game is this it's news now it's crazy it's fucking crazy I went all the way fucking sue their asses and it just the judge came back to like there's no way being bad at your job isn't an excuse to like so it's almost like

Starting point is 01:19:14 Johnny Depp Johnny Depp when he sued he originally sued the newspaper and lost because the newspaper can always be like well we didn't know that she wasn't telling truth or we didn't look at any of the other evidence you have to sue the actual like he sued Amber Heard so it the whole thing's fucked I know huh makes me really jaded yeah dude this shit makes everybody mad I think because you start to feel like there's no way to win against this thing and whatever this thing is but it starts to feel like there's something that you can't you know the only way I look at it people fucking hate me are always gonna hate me I could cure cancer they'd be like why didn't you do it faster yeah now the flip side the people like

Starting point is 01:19:53 me and love me are always gonna love me and and I've said before what's great now I tell the truth but my crowd is so kind of like in my corner it and I wasn't but if I wasn't telling the truth they'd probably still believe me it's like it's almost that they're on my side right people aren't aren't now I good for the people like me I do tell the truth and it's always honest but it's so hard to convince once people have their minds set up or made up it's hard to get them off that point they don't they just ignore like facts yeah it's great yeah people want to be blind to facts that's kind of bizarre but then sometimes I wonder how much do I fall into the same trap even myself you know it's like I sometimes

Starting point is 01:20:32 wonder that um we saw this thing like BuzzFeed was it started to use like AI to generate articles do you see that yeah stock went up like a bazillion percent because of it but do you like because you have like real you know employees with alcoholism and whatever else yeah yeah we got the real deal you guys got the fucking guy you know he's right there you know some guy who's you know gonna overdose or his wife's gonna leave him because he's writing another article for you it's like yeah but you got real people we got real people yeah you got real people with fucking asthma you know like fucking real motherfuckers does this kind of shit scare you or do you think this is cheap or do you think anything about

Starting point is 01:21:11 it it's a business I mean I I feel like BuzzFeed has always been the lowest common denominator for talent so it doesn't surprise me nothing will ever for our business we look for weird talented people there's no AI or anything like that who can you know replace well maybe I think Glennie Balls but no this isn't our world it doesn't scare me it doesn't surprise me yeah because it says BuzzFeed is using AI to write its articles after firing a hundred and eighty employees yeah they're talking about their like listicles and shit right so they're just aggregating I feel bad for the people who got fired too but I wouldn't say those people were like the pinnacle of like talent you know right um so if you know Thoreau is

Starting point is 01:21:54 no Walt yeah you're coming up with like you know that I don't know the ten things you should fucking be doing when you like come home after your grocery I don't know what the fuck yeah yeah ten things you do when your cat dies yeah right yeah so they're just aggregating it again I do feel bad for the employees uh but this isn't I wouldn't view BuzzFeed as like my world necessarily we really are looking for like talented people yeah or weirdos yeah me and Caleb wanted to try and do a show you know it would be fun I like spending time with him the bigger I would say the bigger threat if you want to call it to my world our world is the evolution of like techno like let's take you for example

Starting point is 01:22:42 there's probably a world back when we started where you wouldn't have nearly the vehicles to get your name out there without like coming to us you know or or somebody or a tiktoker like tiktok doesn't exist so if you're a talented person how do you get your content out there is far fewer places um so that that's the harder thing because you know we really have to find the talent early early early because once someone's pretty established on social media or through their platforms they don't need us at all so that that's the harder thing with do you have somebody looking for that kind of thing yeah we're always looking for talent really always now when you say always looking but you have like so like an employee

Starting point is 01:23:22 that's actively kind of no we don't right I guess not we're we're always willing to hire talent if we find it right right but it it is hard you got to get them super early and our value prop on that early is basically will be like gasoline will accelerate you sign you know a generally like a two three year contract and if you're good being in our network should really like give you maybe a way to cut the line so to speak to get your name out there then you can reevaluate you want to stay with us you want to do on your own that type of thing yeah um what do you think anything about like this gp this gp chat thing that thing that can make all its own articles and stuff it can write papers you know is

Starting point is 01:24:01 that what's the difference between that and the list of cool shit chat gbt can be like hey will you write me a um a paper you know it's a dave portnoy writes a paper on uh young men trying to meet each other in the 17th century right at night yep and you put that information in there and then it'll do like a three page paper that would be in your voice sounds like a good fucking way to like get through school yeah i just wonder how weird that's going to get if every you know like at the same questions i mean at the same questions i guess what kind it's like well they're sourcing the information from somewhere you know so whose facts like how do you know where you're getting the information from what's real what's

Starting point is 01:24:46 not what's biased that doesn't change that part of it yeah i don't know yeah i guess in the end i in the end i think you're still gonna have to have real talent will prevail i think even with stuff like this hopefully most people are gonna see through like oh this is just another bullshit article yeah and it's not anything that even a human wrote i feel like you can see that stuff pretty easily on the internet and if you're falling for that shit then you you or something is wrong with you and yeah i don't know what what these things will be used for exactly but i i know in our world at least a lot of what people like is because they are attached to the personality oh yeah like if you switch the names on who like you i it changes how people perceive it because

Starting point is 01:25:31 if it's the ovawn wrote or did something people know you and they view it through that lens and that affects their enjoyment or lack thereof yeah you know yeah like when frank left the jags game early that shit broke my i was like what is even going on but i found myself enveloped in his life i want to know what's going on why is he leaving early i didn't know i was leaving early either i blew my it's like it this is the best game he flew all the way you're talking to bills bills dolphins yeah bills dolphin sorry yeah when he left it when frank left the bills dolphins game early i just the attitude of barstool and full display he i think i was mad at first because like why'd we fucking send him there yeah if you can't stay and by the way you're never

Starting point is 01:26:11 gonna make a six is six p.m flight the game is long but like the game's a one you're gonna be sitting in traffic there's no chance so it was doomed from the beginning so like this went through like 10 different things at barstool like people booked it's like in what world you can't it's a one o'clock game you're never gonna make six so yeah yeah he's in that park a lot with his luggage like what is even going on and i think he really thought he had to leave it's like what are you talking like of course you'll stay stay the night flies crazy um tom brady just retired yeah yeah did you feel anything about that so he's he's do you know tom i very loosely all right but i have like a long history with him because of where i grew up like of course you know i uh the good

Starting point is 01:27:00 the bad the ugly like so he first of all he went to the same school as me michigan so he's the same year okay oh really he remembered from college yeah yeah so went to college with him then he comes to the pats and i'm a i'm in boston and in the patriots rise uh really coincided with the barstool rise so we're so closely linked together everything since i've been involved with like the cops twice with brady once in a negative fashion once in well cops involve is never good but one anti brady i guess you could say and one pro like so he way back in the day uh he he basically gizelle was on the beach with their little kid ben he was an infant ben brady god wow uh and he was naked who was tom was no ben the kid with gizelle on a beach myself

Starting point is 01:27:50 beach might be naked too if i was with her yeah well keep in mind the kid's an infant her son oh okay so it's his son tiny little hill like the gerber baby oh wow huge dick huge dick no way for a little baby and you saw it how far away were you no it was a fucking paparazzi photo it was on the internet and i mean you can see that wand on him uh yeah and i made a joke that going deep this was the height of the paint manning tom brady like rivalry so i i wrote a blog in this one blog i said check out the howitzer on brady's baby and i wrote a census blog i go paint manning could never have a kid with this big of a hog or something like this world war three broke out dave's a pedophile he's sexualizing kids the kid was an infant police

Starting point is 01:28:36 knocked on my door in boston came in they're like we're gonna make your life real fucking horrible if you don't take this down like people are saying i should be beaten to death it was oh it's like mystic river it was crazy so that was way early and then fast forward the patriots exploded we end up going to jail defending brady for when he got suspended by the nfl handcuffed ourselves to each other at nfl headquarters i've been dragged out of the super bowl and handcuffs um bob crafty owner of the team when brady came back with tampa bay called me up he's like i want you to be my guest for when brady comes back so it's been the full circle and i have met him i think a couple times um but i like so if i saw him i'd be like hey tommy i hey dav how's it going good to see you

Starting point is 01:29:22 but i don't know him like on a real personal level but yeah it's uh their success and everything that happened to patriots i don't think barstool probably is the same if that doesn't happen it put us in the headlines in a lot of different ways so it's just a weird magical ride it really has been it's been nuts it's really fascinating man congratulations just on getting to have that experience because life you know to have the ups and downs to have all of it you know to really have so many experiences football is so big in this country and the super bowl is so big and we became barstool the face of like the patriot fan like there's a game they can probably pull if you pull up like uh gadel clown towel so gadel the commissioner in a league like the first time

Starting point is 01:30:10 he came back to uh gelette after all the controversy we printed like 70 000 of these towels with his face and a nose and we we got we're like we need volunteers to hand these things out it was a big fucking thing like if you you could if you on the images for it oh yeah you'll see like the whole fucking stadium basically oh like go to the bottom right we had the shirts so yeah like wow there you are yeah so like the whole fucking stadium gadel in there it just it was a wild time and and we became people just they hated us because people hated the pagers like but that was your thing you did it barstools in here they're like this infection it's like this yeah it's almost like this like this plague but it's not a negative plague it's like this disruptor yeah and the pagers were the

Starting point is 01:31:03 most talked about hated loved whatever team for like two decades oh yeah and we're just right in the middle of it i remember tony colin's brother didn't he was at tony colin yeah you're going way back yeah yeah running back yeah i i i got to meet him one time he went to ecu he was a cool cat man yeah i like tony colin but i think he played in their super bowl game that would have been 85 and they lost the bears man yeah yeah wow yeah yeah yep that was when the pagers they were very good that steve grogan was like my guy he was like i loved him yeah that i mean the pagers are for the most part terrible franchise up till the brady air they had two super walls um and the second one being the parcels but like if you like tech mobile that you have played like oh yeah like they're the worst

Starting point is 01:31:43 team in tech mobile very sad i can't even remember they had a lot of i think one of the running back was white i think even could have uh yeah craig james po half of the pony express yeah i mean yeah them in the cults are the two worst teams in it yeah that was a lot um what do you got for the super bowl man where you landing that with it i don't know i'm back and forth uh i think right now i you gotta see if the chiefs get healthy their wide receivers are so banged up but if they get back i i i think they get a pretty good shot i bet it'll be a good game i think we're heading out there so we have a bar in scott stale which is cool so oh nice yeah we'll be doing like live radio there all week so we'll be there the whole time oh wow yeah i'm trying to see if i'm gonna get over

Starting point is 01:32:24 there i i expect to see yeah i think we'll probably figure hopefully i'll figure something out um yeah i feel like the eagles it just feels like there's some kind of weird destiny thing going on there i'm gonna just tearing people up i can't tell i mean it's the game they beat san fran no quarterback like anybody could be i mean i've never seen an f l team they literally couldn't throw a forward pass so you're not gonna win many games that way i think the giants suck eagles with another one team best team the whole time in the nfc but i don't know how good they are right yeah that division there was no there was someone's disparity in the league this year between like good team there's like so many bad and i thought the afc was overall better but i think the eagles are very good yeah

Starting point is 01:33:05 i'm gonna be a very good game yeah yeah i think it's gonna be exciting um what did you have you seen this power slap and stuff yes it's crazy wouldn't even be crazy because it's because people are getting like well their faces are getting like deformed and shit yeah one guy's wife couldn't recognize him you know so that's crazy yeah i saw the clip of the woman doing like the somersault after yeah now i see it's nuts it's nuts but i mean people love that shit it does remind me of early ufc yeah like early ufc because if you go google it a lot of hate out there online like this the worst thing that's ever fucking happened um you know obvious a lot of people have opinions on daniel white his incident oh that was crazy that that happened right when the league started

Starting point is 01:33:52 i almost feel like i wonder if that was planned it's like unbelievable um because his wife's at least a lot or she's probably ban him wait i don't know i didn't get it's hard to see i don't know about that uh i don't know what what qualification would be but so if you google it there's a lot hate right but it's entertaining it's scary to watch but people are getting hurt one guy bought a van right if you see that the guy left the place and bought a van for no reason like and he didn't even there was no re like something so they're saying his brain got you know like his wires got crossed and something's like you had to buy a van yeah imagine just going first of all imagine buying a van yeah that's kind of cool yeah kind of but if you don't even need a van you're

Starting point is 01:34:33 saying hey i'm getting a van like you fucking come home from losing the fight with a van it's a pick a van yeah listen it's entertaining i like i really do think it's early i used to watch like the early early ufc's no weight class that was like ancient rome yeah and you had to fight like you fight you win you fight again it's like tournament and people are like horrified like what the fuck is this it reminds me a lot because there's definitely something about it and i know what that says about the human psyche is like yeah i want to watch like this is fucking interesting like slap them harder so uh it's an interesting thing i think dan is pretty confident it's going to be successful and numbers are big so we'll see yeah it's hard to deny those clips when you see

Starting point is 01:35:12 them it's like you want to stay on it but you don't want to it's like that and the people like attacking cvs workers those are the two clips from like do i want to keep watching this like shit like that like you just now that i'm sure they'll have to just like ufc that's why i say it if it continues and grows they'll have to put some regulations which you already said but there's something there there's undeniable something there human psyche it's like yeah i want to watch somebody get slapped so silly they do a somersault or fate it's i don't know what it says about humans but like you said people fucking used to go to the coliseum in roam to watch fucking gladiator so yeah there's something inherent to it yeah um with all the

Starting point is 01:35:52 success with barstool you guys have crushed it so much and and and your journey through it do you think that there'd be a do you ever start to have ideas of like there's something else you want to do down the line i know you guys are you have a watch company now yes yep yep brick watch brick watch right i saw you tag uh you did crucified so the the number one thing i've been crucified of for in my life for doing watches because i they're they're not cheap they're 2400 bucks okay and people it's nice looking thank you it is i saw eric olson had one out no isn't reg olson then yeah he had it on um but there's a community to watch people who take their watches so fucking seriously that i did i was i built mine was like built for people like me who i'm not

Starting point is 01:36:35 going to spend like 10 grand on rolex but i thought i want a watch that's clean looks good i spent a lot of time like coming up with the design of it it's more of a fashion watch people went under the hood they it was we'll see what happens with it but whenever i post it like watch snobs they come for my throat really crazy like time not he's like fucking yeah yeah yes time not a bunch of fucking second monkeys out there yeah no they're they're like i could buy this watch for this fucking has this movement and does this and fucking sucks my dick and you know doesn't do that they're crazy watch people and they thought they're like you're doing it as a scam it's like what the fuck you talking about doing as a skim why like no i'm not

Starting point is 01:37:16 and it's like by the way i'm at the point and maybe rightly or wrongly where i can get investors for every people like oh he's a smart business guy so if i'm like i'm doing something people knew i was doing this they were like begging to throw money as like no because honestly if it doesn't work i don't want you to be able to be like in my grill like if i'll lose my own money and i don't have to worry about a phone call from anybody being like kind of nice huh yeah so i it's my own money that i either will lose or make but yeah it's been a wild experience i've done a the people it's slowed down a little bit but right launch it people coming for the throw but to answer a question beyond that and that was just something i thought would work right it's like i i just kind of that

Starting point is 01:37:57 entrepreneurial spirit i spent a year or so year and a half developing it beyond that one misconception i think people always had about me is like i'm ultra driven like to do shit like i think i have two more years with barcel guaranteed um and then i could disappear to a beach who fucking knows like i don't i don't know i i don't have that inherent need i don't think to work hmm people don't believe me about that they think i'm an ego maniac like i'll have to be in the headlines i don't we'll see i mean always an instigator i just don't know if that'll kind of disappear and i hope it doesn't you know it's fun to watch you instigate through the world i think yeah you know it's been really entertained i mean it's been entertaining um you know i've long been a fan and then i got to meet

Starting point is 01:38:40 you and you seem like a very i you just seemed a lot more even down to earth than i expected man and i know that's a weird it's not a compliment to give someone but i think you look at someone's life and it looks so busy and insane and then you meet them and they seem uh you know it's interesting to find that somebody that seems kind of down to earth um so like i'm sure with like in your work like there's a lot of decisions to be made right have you always been a good decision maker do you have like a process when it comes to that because you probably have to make decisions pretty quick yeah no i just go with my gut like uh i always view it late sort of family feud style like you know if you watch the family feud you got the head guy at the table right oh yeah and then

Starting point is 01:39:20 everyone shouts the answers at him yeah you hear a good answer you're like all right i'll go with that guy but even if they have the right answer but in my gut i'm like no i get the right answer i'll go with mine i may get the x but it that's kind of how it is it's all gut-based yeah yeah there's no it i look at this i follow my gut since i started it we've been wildly successful a lot of a lot of breaks that i could never dreamed of and i didn't start parcel really to like be here i just didn't want to hate my job waking up in the morning but uh why would i stop following my gut it's got us this far so do you have a mentor that you reach out to if there's things that like you're unsure about occasionally there's a couple guys uh there's there's a dude

Starting point is 01:40:01 micropoli um who i met through horse racing he started like um vitamin water he started um body armor so he sold both for like billions he's a crazy guy but down earth nice so sometimes like business questions i'll ask him erica nardini our ceo we have like the best relationship so i'll run shit by her um you know my family but those are those are kind of it we met a guy who sells they do like horse you know the horse uh does sex with other horses yeah yeah breeding and their horse was like a champion it won like uh it won the dam you know i don't know what it is the kentucky derby no i think it was like brick stone or brick town or something i don't know what it's called but uh yeah maybe kentucky derby i can't remember but that or the brick stone or the brick

Starting point is 01:40:54 stone so they're wondering so but people will pay and he said like yeah like all through the week there's just lines of like people bringing in their horse and the horse has sex with it and then and they'd make like 30 000 every time the horse pumps and it's just out there pumping all all fall yeah that's crazy yeah what that has to do with oh rapoli i mentioned the horse guy yeah breeding that's where all the money is god yeah and they have to have it like natural you can't like artificial is inseminated it has to they actually have to fuck that's part of the rules yeah yeah because you get to be right there he said yeah and it's like if it doesn't take or it doesn't work you still fucking spend the money yeah yeah boy that's a lot for a blast yeah put it out to stud that's

Starting point is 01:41:34 basically what that's called the male they put out the stud they bring the females boom bang bang you're a busy guy and so like obviously your life's super busy do you have like a day-to-day routine a ritual that you do every morning this might be a bad question i don't know if i've even asked yeah no it it i've definitely taken the foot off the gas a little bit like the early days i much more do uh no not not as much anymore i mean i have my schedule like the bff podcast which is like a tuesday we'll have college depending on sport like sport shows to do my pizza review is every single day so i gotta make sure those are in i'm gonna start day trading again probably in march that'll be like at the beginning of the stock market the end of it

Starting point is 01:42:17 but i've definitely taken the gas the foot off the pedal a little bit i mean 20 years a long fucking time to be doing something yeah would you ever come up with like a investing arm through barstool do you think yeah i theoretically because at some point a lot some of your fans will start to get older yeah and they'll have money they want to invest yeah so well in other things yeah yeah potentially i don't know maybe i mean it might be interesting you know yeah especially if you are doing it or you get involved with people that do it well yeah i'm sure a lot of your supporters would want to have the same or do the same um we done yeah i think we covered a lot of stuff man all right dude thanks so much for hanging out dude yeah no it's uh it was

Starting point is 01:42:59 fun i'm glad i got to do it yeah i appreciate it man yeah for sure um i want to come back on bff sometime open invite praise brother all right all right thanks dave cool now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take ladies and gentlemen i'm jonathan kite and welcome to kite club a podcast where i'll be sharing thoughts on things like current events stand-up stories and seven ways to pleasure your partner the answer may shock you sometimes i'll interview my friends sometimes i won't

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This Past Weekend - E429 Dave Portnoy

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