This Past Weekend - E437 Nate Bargatze & Mike Vecchione

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Mike Vecchione is a stand-up comedian based in New York City. His new special, “The Attractives” is out now on YouTube. Nate Bargatze is a stand-up comedian based in Nashville,TN. He is currently ...out on his “Be Funny” tour and his latest special “Hello World” is available on Amazon Prime.  Comedians Nate Bargatze and Mike Vecchione join This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von to talk about shooting Mike’s new special in Nashville, stories from their early days of stand-up, mafia dreams, the latest with Italians, keeping that young blood, and more.  Mike Vecchione's new special “The Attractives”, directed by Nate Bargatze: https://bit.ly/3TNk5dm  Nate Bargatze: https://www.instagram.com/natebargatze/  Mike Vecchione: https://www.instagram.com/comicmikev/  ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/40IkwYz BetterHelp: Visit https://betterhelp.com/theo today to get 10% off your first month. Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. Manscaped: Visit https://manscaped.com and save 20% off and free shipping with code THEO. Your balls will thank you. Füm: Visit https://tryfum.com and use code THEO to save 10% off when you get the journey pack today. The Journey pack comes with three unique flavors and the new Version 2 Füm to help kick start your positive habits. HelloFresh: Visit http://hellofresh.com/theovon60 and use code theovon60 for 60% off plus free shipping! Raising Cane’s: Satisfy your Cane’s fix fast by ordering through their app, online at https://raisingcanes.com, or stop by your local restaurant.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" by Bishop Gunn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ Producer: Ben https://www.instagram.com/benbeckermusic/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In light of the tragedies today in Nashville, but just want to say that my heart is really just broken as I think a lot of people's are. You know, this happened just right down the street from me. And it's just heavy, man. It's a lot. And we just want to, we just want to say that we are thinking of those people
Starting point is 00:00:34 who are suffering and praying for peace and just praying that comfort finds them. And I know people have different thoughts on prayers and stuff that's fine. I'm not trying to solve the problem today. I'm just trying to take some moments to out of my own life to think of other people, I guess. But yeah, just wanted to say that that's on our minds
Starting point is 00:01:05 and hearts over here. And it's just a heavy, it has been a, it's been just a heavy time and it's a fresh, heavy thing. And that's what's going on. And we're grateful to be alive today and to be able to have a podcast and to sit and talk with people that we care about and that you are alive today to listen.
Starting point is 00:01:32 So thank you and we love you guys. I want to let you know for touring that we will be adding dates eventually for Australia and Europe, the UK, everywhere. We're adding places as much as we can and trying to stay sane and well at the same time. So looking forward to getting over there. Just had a great week in Houston and Corpus Christi.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And yeah, just want to let you guys know that there are still a few tickets available for Medford, Massachusetts, New York, New York, Las Vegas, Uncusville, Connecticut and Toronto, Ontario. All those are available at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. And if some of the tickets get outrageous, they won't be outrageously priced through us, but if through resailers they get outrageously priced,
Starting point is 00:02:32 then just hold off, we'll come back through. So I don't want you guys spending a ton of money. Thank you very much for the support. Today's guests are two comedians who have countless years of comedy experience between the two of them. One of them, Mike Vecchione, has a new special which is out now on the YouTubes
Starting point is 00:02:57 and it's called The Attractives. And it was produced by Nate Bargazzi. And that's where you can watch it on Nate's channel. And they are both here today. Nate is a household name at this point. I'm grateful to sit down with both of them. Today's guests are Mike Vecchione and Nate Bargazzi. 🎵Shine that light on me, I'll sit and tell you our stories🎵
Starting point is 00:03:45 That's what you guys have in a day. I'm trying to have a lot more. I'm trying to have a gallon. That's one of the biggest things to do is have water. One of the best things you could ever do is the most, it's seeing how much people are dehydrated. Yeah, you didn't even know it, but it's like you should have that lemon water
Starting point is 00:04:08 in the morning, first thing you take a lemon, just put it in water in a Nutribullet and just grind it up and then chug it. It refreshes all your electrolytes first. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh wow, how much a whole lemon in there? Just a whole lemon, just cut,
Starting point is 00:04:20 peel it and put it in with water and then just chug it. So you take the peel off? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, people are dehydrated. Science says we should have a ton of water. People are very hydrated. You think they are?
Starting point is 00:04:33 I think so, I think most, I think, I mean, the percentage has gotta be 85%. Oh, what, hydrated or not? Dehydrated. Oh yeah, yeah. I don't know, but it could be that high. But it's one of those things too where it's like, you don't realize it, you're that dehydrated,
Starting point is 00:04:50 but it's also one of those things where it's like, you're not breathing right. Yes. It's one of those things either. It's like, you're just a shallow breather. Right. You know? Yeah, maybe you're just like burning off all the water
Starting point is 00:05:01 because you don't breathe, you're not getting like the right depth of air or something. Yeah. I mean, they're not related, but it's like one of those things you just take for granted. It's like, I'm getting enough water from Thursday, I drink it. That's how I know I'm dehydrated, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. It's the same thing, it's like, I don't have a problem with my breathing. I say, no, no, no, you need to be doing these deep breaths all the time. He does deep breathing. Deep breathing. You do.
Starting point is 00:05:19 He's a big habit. I mean, he does, we're talking. I feel like you would like talking to him about getting in some, there's the structure this guy has. About habitualness? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of how much water that I have
Starting point is 00:05:33 or how much I like having. I think I like having it. I think, yeah, science says that you are supposed to have like a pretty much, I don't know if a gallon, you think you have a gallon or a day? Oh, it's, I forget the percentages of your body, but it's, yeah. I think I want to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Okay. Let me start. I think we already started, Mike. Can we start? It's fine. Yeah. Oh my God. Go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:05:59 No, I can't talk to somebody who I know as fully. No, no, no, I'm good. I'm not. No, no, we actually started. But it's not cool. I think if somebody's full of pissed, yeah, no, no, I'm not full. I was just going to, I was like thinking it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I didn't realize it. But I would get it out. Now we know. Now we know. What do you think he should do, Nick? I don't know. I think I'm finding him waiting out. And if he has to go, then he has to go sit in the car
Starting point is 00:06:18 till we're done. We don't. Yeah, I could chat. You're like, you should have went before, Mike. So you didn't. I didn't realize we were even. So now you go wait in the car till we're done. But I didn't realize we started.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Well, that's how you, every podcast. We were doing the headphones back and forth thing. Was that on it? That might be. It might have been a fun time. I don't know. Maybe it was a good time to gather some things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, you got to listen to this guy, man. You got to listen to this guy. There's your 15 and a half cups, 3.7 liters. So like, you know, there's like a bottle, a liter bottle, liter bottle from, but I tried, it would be to try to drink four liters a day. Oh my God. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It's so much that you're, it's just, you need so much water. Yeah. And these, I mean, I drink coffee too, but the coffee dehydrates you. It sucks it all. I drink a ton of diet soda. I love it, but it's all dehydrating.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Oh God. And so everything's dehydrating. Yeah, and the water in New York is like, feels like it's heavily treated. Oh yeah. I don't know, like the water here. It's supposed to like the best, don't they have it on top of the building?
Starting point is 00:07:35 It's, they say it's the best, but I don't know, it feels heavily treated. That's what New York would say. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Water's heavily treated. You know what I'm telling you? We're the best.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I made that up, yeah. My water's more educated than your water is. Yeah, that's what, that's the attitude. That's the attitude of up there. Dude, I had to work, I got court ordered one time to work at this water treatment facility in Louisiana, dude. And they're not, people are sleeping on a job. Yeah, yeah, some stuff's getting through.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I mean, it was funny. You see like a float go through, or you see some trash. You see some stuff that you know, I remember seeing people laugh about the fact that somebody was gonna try to drink that. You don't see, I just picture you have like a pad on and you're supposed to grab that trash and you just go,
Starting point is 00:08:20 that's too far and you let it go through. And it's going out, someone sink, someone sink just flows and they're like, my water's not going, yeah, you got a tire stuck on the other end of that. That's what, yeah, man. They had a lot of, I remember in the last tank, like the stuff that's supposed to go out,
Starting point is 00:08:38 like it's supposed to be pure or whatever. I remember finding a bunch of barrettes in there and being like, oh God, we're not doing our job. Barrettes, like hair barrettes, children or adults, I guess. Yeah. Why would people be throwing those away? I worry, I read water meters.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Did you really? So like the pending, seeing how much water everybody uses. No way. And was it crazy? Who was using the most? Like what ethnicity do you think was used in the most water? Women, women, yeah, I would say, I know it's March, but that was this women's month?
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's women's awareness. It is? Who wasn't aware of these bitches, dude, I'm fucking. Yeah. They're all I think about or they're all that I'm dealing with, you know? It's like how much water there is. My wife is better with water than I am.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Really? I will leave it running. I'm not good. When, you know, in LA, he's like a big, you're supposed to turn the water off and blah, blah. I was not the best at that. And what do you mean? Like you'll just stay in the shower for a long time?
Starting point is 00:09:38 I could take long showers. If I brush my teeth and I go pee, I can leave the water running and I'll go pee and then come back. And what's your mindset there? It's just like, why interrupt the flow of it? I'm just gonna have to turn it on and off? Yeah, you gotta turn it on and off
Starting point is 00:09:51 so it's like you just leave it running. Anything that can help. Where do you consciously go? I hate the earth. I do. Anything that, anything in my head that thinks this is good for the environment, I do the opposite. Dude, I was like that.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I remember whenever they first came out with like electric cars, I remember driving down the road and just pull, I had a gas cell. I was just pouring gas, driving a gas powered car and pouring gas out of my window. Like out of a gas tank, just like, fuck it. We're not gonna lose. You're not gonna lose.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I had, and we lost. And we lost. We lost because it was very expensive for you to go drive around. Oh yeah. You had to double fill up. Oh yeah. We had, I had gas.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I delivered matches and appliances here in Nashville growing up and our, when I was, you know, 18, 19, 20. And so we had a 26 foot box truck that we did and it got the gas tank, the fuel tank because you put diesel in it, broke and we're driving down 24 in the interstate here and we didn't realize it but it was leaking fuel the whole way.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So, I mean, from we get off, we fill it up and it got punctured somehow, I forget how. And then it leaks the whole way and then we get off and I mean, there's just a trail of diesel. And so you'd have to go, when we were driving, you'd have to, especially to another place, you'd have to go through way stations, you know, the way your truck and then someone came up
Starting point is 00:11:23 and we, how we fixed it was just put in duct tape and spray painted it black over it. And so this lady came and like she was like a, you know, an official, an officer that's like checking our truck. And I mean, it was like- DOT Department of Transportation? Yes, yes. That sounds pretty thorough.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. So put black duct tape over it and paint it. Well, so we're driving. Italian kind of. So me and my buddy are driving and where he and Jamie, Jamie's driving and Jamie does not have a, I don't think he has a license. And like he's has a lot of criminal stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:59 So he's driving. So he's like, oh wait, you need to get in the driver's seat cause we're about to have to go through this way station. So in the middle of the interstate, I have to stand up and we switched places. Now I'm driving, we pull in and then she's like, I'm going to come check your truck. And I'm like, dude, she sees that we are fuel tankers,
Starting point is 00:12:18 just duct tape. Like we're going to go, I don't know what, you might go to jail. I don't know what's going to happen. So then I'm like out, like I meet her halfway out and I'm just trying to stand on like the step to try to hide the duct tape. And we hit it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 We hit it. She didn't see it. She didn't see it. What a bad inspector. Well. See that, that would probably be pretty obvious. I don't think they expect anybody to be doing that. I think they-
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, that's like low, that's like really bushly. It's almost like that would have happened in like the early practice trial. Like this is something nobody will ever do. Yeah, they go, should I check to see the duct tape on the fuel tank? They're like, nah, obviously not. Yeah, this is, you know, it's like-
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, these are adults. It's like, yeah, it's like, this is the 2000s now. I think we're in the future. So I don't know, I think that stuff's long gone. That's how they- Dude, I remember one time, my brother, we'd been, we grew up by this river and across from the river was the back of a rest area by the interstate.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And a lot of gay men and stuff would meet up over there. And, you know, do, or not drug, not gay men, but they would do enough drugs where they would be gay. Become gay? Yeah, yeah. Like drug-induced gay. Right, yeah. And one time anyway, somebody draw a big wiener
Starting point is 00:13:31 on my brother's back, right? And we got back to the house and like, we were just trying to like hide it for, like hide the back of my brother from my mom. It just reminded me of that, dude. And then when she saw it finally, she got so fucking pissed, man. We told her that somebody else did it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Let someone do that? I didn't, I mean, I couldn't help it. They were adults. Yeah, yeah. These were adults doing it. They actually drew it on his back? Yeah, drew like a, you know, like a wiener or penis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 But one time we rented a car and they got a dent in it and we caught a pigeon and made it shit over the dent to kind of cover it up before we turned it in. You gotta just hold it and just, yeah. I mean, you gotta squeeze a little. Yeah, yeah, to get it out. They could even catch the pigeon and grab it. I've never held a pigeon before.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Well, we're just trying to avoid that fine. Yeah, yeah. But I would think anybody that could catch a pigeon it would be, it would be you Theo. I think they don't even notice I'm there at first. Yeah, I think they go, you're one of us. They go, what's up man? You go, hey, when you were squeezing it,
Starting point is 00:14:35 did you go, you know, I hope you had a big lunch? Because what? Pitchers have to go to the bathroom a lot. Yeah, they're ready to go. You don't have to do much. You could almost even whisper to them, I just do it. And the pigeons down here are probably healthier than the ones like in New York and other areas.
Starting point is 00:14:50 New York pigeons don't look healthy. They don't look like they live in a healthy lifestyle. No, I think they're going to the bathroom to get rough as you're eating so much regular food. They haven't had enough water, you know? Yeah, they're hydrated. Other penguins holding their wings while they go, it's just too, it's like a lot of,
Starting point is 00:15:05 they need some real help. Todd Glass, I remember I had a joke about a pigeon. You ever see a pigeon? He went out to his car and then he goes in this pigeon must have been like, oh God, he just let it go. Like it was just all over this car where you're like, this guy's pigeon's stomach was crushed. I couldn't imagine being, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:27 one of those real guttural animals, you know? Like even shrimp hang out at the bottom of the ocean and just eat really probably duty that comes out of other fish and, you know, oysters are supposed to be like sponges that purify the ocean. Like the water's supposed to go through them. They're almost like the air filter for the ocean. And we go and eat them, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I mean, I love them, you know? And I don't, you know. But they're aphrodisiac too somehow, aren't they? Maybe trash isn't aphrodisiac. Yeah, oh yeah. What does aphrodisiac mean? Makes you horny. Oh yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's what I thought of it, yeah. Trying to think of things that make me horny really. Oysters, pigeons, water, if you had more water. Oh God. That's what you need. Yeah, dude, so we're talking about, I want to thank you guys for coming in and hanging out, dude. And I was there when you guys taped Mike's special, right?
Starting point is 00:16:29 That might've been the last time I saw you guys. Yes. Right, at Zany's. At Zany's, yeah, I'm excited for this to come out. March 24th, March 24th. And so you started, like how did you guys kind of figure this out to do it? We've been friends for a long time.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. And Nate moved, he moved to LA. So, and then, and then to Nashville. So, but over the years, like he would come back and do the Tonight Show, so then I would see him and he would hang out, we would hang out and stuff. So we were just, he was like, why don't you come out and open for me?
Starting point is 00:17:04 I was like, yeah, I'm headline, whatever. And then as time went on, then he was like, no, no, no, do a date or two. And so then I started going out on the road with him. And then when we were on the road, he was like, hey, I want to, it was his idea, like, if you do an hour, like I'll direct it and produce it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Well, Mike's unreal. Yeah. And so one of the best comics in New York. I love watching the tape in an hour, yeah. It's so good. And it'll be on my YouTube on March 24th, but it's so good. And it's like, you're seeing this, we talked a lot about this last night,
Starting point is 00:17:40 like the way like, you know, it's all kind of going now with specials or like doing stuff like that. And I'm clean in comics, so like this special Mike is going to be clean, like, because it's like, just kind of my world is like kind of that. But it's like, for clean comics, they're not, they don't get the level of comic that Mike is.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like usually, like clean is, you know, it's basically just being like TV, you know, we had to do comedy central stuff. You did a half hour, you did all this. You had to be TV clean back when you did that stuff. So it's kind of making stuff like that. But putting specials out, because we got his coming out,
Starting point is 00:18:17 then Greg Warren and then Joe Zimmerman is, we take, I take three hours. And so it's just being super fun and super funny. It's what I think you do well as, you know, where it's, you're super fun. When people go see you live, and the thing that I've always told you, you love your fans. You love the people that come out to see you.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I, this is my favorite thing is that, you know, afterward you go and you're with all of them and you're just the love you have for these people. And the love they have for you is something that's, it's getting lost in entertainment. And it's being, there's such a disconnect with some, with a lot of things where people like, they're not just, they, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:58 they don't have, they don't, your people are paying to go to these shows and all that stuff. You're like, show them the respect to give them a good show and be just entertaining and be fun, be a break for everybody. No one needs this, everything doesn't need to be this super heavy kind of thing or this, I'm smarter than you, I know this and I know, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:17 it's like, just go be pure entertainment for them. And that's what I want to do. And that's what his special is going to do, you know, and like Greg's and Joe's, where it's just like, it's being fun again, like make things be fun. I think stuff is like I said, too, too heavy, too, people got like, they're too smart for, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That's a good point. Everybody feels so smart now since we all have, well, smartness kind of adjusted because we all have, everybody has the same access to stuff now. So it used to be somebody had to be smart. Yes. Now somebody just pulls up something they believe
Starting point is 00:19:53 that somebody else has an actual like, like a circumference of that knowledge or like a full look at it. And they just say, well, look at this, you know, everybody's smart. If you have a good memory, you can be, you can come off as the smartest person ever. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Cause you could just say all the things and then I like, I'm trying to do a joke about, I didn't go to college. And so I'm trying to do a joke about college now, but not that I'm against college, but it's like, I didn't go, I feel like college is the, they just, you go to learn big words. And so then you, they, they, people just say these big words
Starting point is 00:20:28 and then someone that like, I didn't go to college. So I don't know these big words. And so then you're just like, feel like you're out of a conversation. Cause you're like, well, I don't know what that word means. Oh yeah. Somebody went in and dropped a big one on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Which is, and then you're just like, well, I don't know this. So then you're like, you feel dumb. And then you're like, but I think we, I can talk what you're saying. I just don't know the word. I don't know all those words. Yeah. But I feel like people are flexing on you.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yes. Oh yeah. It's a worst, huh? When somebody, I went to college, I went to Penn State. Oh, did you really? Yeah. Very arrogant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I pride myself on talking down to those who didn't go. Yeah. That's what he does, dude. I like to make them feel less than, less than. Yeah, dude. I'm trying to think. Diminished is a word maybe you don't get. But that means less than.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Oh. That's less than. I thought that was a positive thing for me. Diminished. Yeah. It sounds Japanese. Yeah. It does.
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Starting point is 00:25:09 Mm, you know, I like it, Canes. So that's the special. So to be out on the 24th. Yeah, March 24th. And were you nervous doing it? Cause I remember being there that night, I'm trying to think you had on a black, like long sleeve. Yeah, that's the funny thing.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like Nate dressed me completely. I'm not, I'm not ashamed to say that another grown man dressed me completely. Cause I don't really know how to dress. I have bad. He didn't wear anything crazy, but it was like, I gave him like a, I had a black sweater.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah, it looks like a safe bet. Yeah, yeah, I'm just, I go very basic colors. Just, I don't know what I'm doing. So he put a little effort. It had that rehab graduation vibe. It was almost like, okay, this guy's graduating, his family's coming to see him. It did have that.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah, it like, it goes, you go, come on, man, you're doing better. Your mom bought you that. She laid it out for you. You're reintroducing yourself to the family. Cause the last time they saw you was a nightmare. It was a nightmare. So you're reintroducing to your family.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Your mom lays it out. You're seeing your grandmother again. Last time you saw her, you called her some names. So, you know, and you show up. And when it looks like this rehab is not going to take. Like it was like, this, this one is, you're going to go back. But this is your first one back out.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Yeah, we're, this is this. You're like a newborn baby. Yeah. That's it. We'll keep a bottle near you in case you get to meet her. The dress was a, was huge. It was, I don't like to have to think about, I understand why people wear the same thing every day.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh, it's like, you don't have to think about it. You just like put it on, put it on, put it on. Like, I think about that all the time. I love that. To wear the same thing every day. Yeah, I tell you, on stage I'll wear the same thing for the past two years, maybe or three, maybe three, four years almost now.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's just the easiest. Yeah. Black shirt and black pants. It's the same exact ones. It's just easy for me. I can't, if I get too much opportunities to think about stuff, I don't do well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I agree. I don't, I don't, but I think about it. I think about it just in regular life. Like just, you're like, just buy this same stuff, wear it everywhere, and then that's it. You know, it's a lot of decisions. Yeah. You need to get decisions out of your life.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And one color too. I think that's one thing that the black culture does. Well, they do, they'll be like one color. Like today, Larry is fuchsia. Yeah. You know? And it's top to bottom. It's top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And he goes full fuchsia. Like he will fucking fight for the fucking fusion military. Yeah. So there is no, he's eating Asian fusion for lunch. There's no, like he is full fuchsia for that day. You couldn't fucking, if you came near him with a little bit of fucking lavender or a little bit of fucking tangerine,
Starting point is 00:27:48 he'll, he might fucking, he'll flex on you, you know? That is true. But they've mastered the art of that. Let's make, you kind of, let's keep it simple, you know? You go with a good cologne, a fucking sturdy cologne, and you go one color. How about you wear cologne? I don't wear anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I think cologne these days kind of signifies you're trying to hide something. Yeah. You've obviously been, I think, I think it's kind of two things. Either you've never looked at pornography or you've been cheating on your spouse. A cologne is a good sign that you're cheating.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. Yeah, that is, I think that's correct actually. You wear a cologne? No, I wear X body spray. Do you really still? I'm not ready to cheat. But I still want to smell pungent. I think pungent is a good,
Starting point is 00:28:33 Nate, do you get pungent? It's not good, I don't know. It's an aggressive smell. You spray X body spray? Yeah. Do you really might? Yeah, at the gym. Yeah, he's like a maniac.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So you have a family, you don't have a family, huh? No. I have a girlfriend and I have a, you know, I have a family, but not in the sense that like traditional men have families, like a wife and kids. Yeah. Have a mother and a brother and a sister,
Starting point is 00:28:56 but I have a girlfriend. Yeah. So you have an original family, we don't have your own family. Yeah. Oh, that's a good way to put it, original. Yeah, original family. I mean, my original family.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah, he's very, he's very put together. He wrestled at Penn State. Oh, you did? I wrestled for one year. I wrestled for one year. So, I went through the training and everything. And the second year I was like, I can't, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:29:18 This is so much work. This was the, it was so much work. This was the sixties. Go ahead. What was it? I mean, well, when Lyndon Johnson got into office. This is where black people are allowed to wrestle. Go ahead, Mike.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Oh yeah, you only had to wrestle whites at ease. Yeah. We all made the Penn State team. I guess I only made that. But yeah, after the first year, I was like, this is, I mean, the guys were so good. It was, the training was so tough. Sometimes we would have to work out three times a day.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And, and it was just, I'm like, I can't wrap my head around it. So, I didn't do it. And then I really enjoyed the rest of my college career because I was friends with a lot of those guys and I lived with them. And so I had a great time just not having to do the punishing, punishing.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I still love the sport. Yeah. But to be honest, like I didn't, I wasn't good enough to be there really. I placed in States and high school where I was from. I thought I was good for my area, which is Florida, which wasn't, I started wrestling in Ohio and then placed in States and Florida
Starting point is 00:30:14 where I went to high school. And so I was good for my area, but we were number three in the country the year that I wrestled there. And we had just all Americans in national champs all up and down the lineup. So it was just going to practice, was just taking beatings every day.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But I learned a lot, mental toughness, all that stuff. So it was great. It was a great experience. You think you could beat, like Bobby Lee says that he wrestled in, I don't know what he was in, an internment camp or something, but he said that he wrestled at some point. He had to wrestle.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah, yeah. He had no choice, yeah. He probably wrestled for oranges or whatever they had for dinner. But do you think you could bring up Bobby Lee in a wrestling? There you go. I think you could beat him in a wrestling.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I don't know his background. Like I wasn't the best athlete in the world and I also wasn't the best technician. I had, I worked, when I was on teams I would really work hard and I was like hard nosed. So I can't say that about myself. That's how I describe his comedy. Hard nosed.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Well, he's not the best at everything, but he does show up. And that's how people come see when people buy tickets. Just know, it's not going to be the best show you've ever seen, but my fools show up. I will. He's like a union worker.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm blue collar. I'm blue collar. Yeah, I'm blue collar though. So bring it back up. I want to see that picture. You don't, be honest with me. I don't know. Y'all are being different weight class.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yeah, we're different weight class. I don't know. Let's get a current picture of Bobby Lee then and see if we could, there you go. I could tell you, I could tell you, I could win by knowing his background. What state did he wrestle in? California.
Starting point is 00:31:49 California is a wild card state. You could be really, there's really good guys. You wouldn't think California is a good state. It's not good as Pennsylvania or Ohio or Iowa, but it is very good. That's an actual picture of him during the tournament. Yeah. So bring up that picture.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. Okay. Could you beat, and don't get it confused with his brother. Just bring up a current picture of Bobby Lee. Let's get real. I just want to get to the truth here, Mike, because people are going to come see you. They want to see the truth.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, they want to see you. Exactly. Can you beat this guy? Zoom in on this man, please. Can you beat this guy in wrestling? Can I beat him in wrestling? Right now. Right now.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It's real easy to handle. Well, right now, maybe. Yeah. Because I'm in decent shape now. Well, you're in wrestling shape. Oh, shape. This guy, you can see that. This guy's bucket is definitely more of a tapas, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:44 The other guy we did, or Greg Warren, a special comment after that, he wrestled from Missouri, was all American. Oh my God. Nate is doing nothing but wrestlers specials now. Well, they just had the national championship on this weekend, I think. And Penn State is unreal now.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Joe Zimmerman, college golfer. Oh, he was? Yeah. But Greg Warren wrestled with Michael Chandler's brother. Oh, really? I think so. Greg Warren, I say this on every podcast, because people in the comedy community are small.
Starting point is 00:33:13 They go, you wrestled, Greg wrestled, who would win? Who would win? I'm like, Greg was on another level. He was an all-American. He was that great. He was really, really tough. Did y'all come across that Fox catcher guy? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:23 No, that guy was happening when I was in school, but yeah, no, I saw that movie. That was crazy. He was out of his mind. That was when you were... That's when I was in college. Yeah, but those guys would go, like the guys, the top guys on the team would go train
Starting point is 00:33:41 at Fox catcher, because for the Olympics and stuff. And was he touching people or he was abusing them? I don't know about that. Like, I don't know the facts or everything, but I can't imagine doing... Oh, you're on his side, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I don't even know. I can't imagine him doing that to this level of wrestlers, like touching them and being like, not having any repercussions. Wrestlers are not stable people and they're not gonna play. I don't care how much money the guy has. So I can't see him being predatory
Starting point is 00:34:13 against these types of guys. These types of guys are very, very tough guys. And I know the guys are billionaire and all that stuff, but when somebody fondles you, that all that goes out the window. Maybe not for you guys, I don't know. But for me. Yeah, you would put a stop to it.
Starting point is 00:34:28 For me, you have to put a stop to it. The level wrestler you're at, I don't think you could take him. I'm trying to think of it. Are we saying that, though? Like, would you have trouble with it? Would you right now just be saying, well, he was a different weight class, so I had to go with it?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. Yeah, what if he just does a naked, naked choke and you're like this? I don't think this is a... Yeah, you're naked, naked? Yeah. You're like, how about naked this, dude? So you're helping produce three specials?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yes. Are they all coming out like, is it to be sequential? Like, should people... Yeah, yeah, it's like March 24th, I want to say roughly a month, month. Okay, sweet. Yeah, something like that. All on my YouTube, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That's awesome. But it's like guys that have been around, like, you know... Oh, yeah, I've been around for a long time. Mike's done specials, Mike's done everything. And it's, you know, we were talking about like last night where the specials are going, where it's just such a different thing now. There's not a, and we might,
Starting point is 00:35:21 I'm going to be doing something else too, that filming something with like a newer, some newer comics, some not, where it's like kind of a live agathom kind of thing. But it's, you know, comics, if you're starting now as a comic, what do you, it's like, what do you got to do? Like for us, we were, we did live agathom.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I think we did it all the same time. Then we all do live agathom. I feel like you and I did it around the same, I strongly... Well, we did it... We did it the same year. I think we did it the same year, 2008. And we did half hours in 2010,
Starting point is 00:35:49 we did half hours the same year. Wow, in Boston, did you all shoot yours? No, no, I shot mine in New York. Oh, you didn't? So you were in Boston? Yeah, but we were all about the same time. And so like, there was a path that comics had to take, where we did live agathom,
Starting point is 00:36:05 you did half hours, the comic central hour, and then Netflix came. But now for young comics, you're like, I don't know what you have to do. Like there's no, you can try to do a late night set. But outside of that, you're like, I mean, an hour of Netflix. Like, you know, there's not,
Starting point is 00:36:23 I get Netflix did some 15 minute stuff, half hour stuff. Yeah, stand up wise, there's nowhere to go. There used to be steps to measure yourself. Okay, I'm gonna shoot. I did my eight minutes on live agathom, now I'm shooting for this half hour. It's like, I didn't get a half hour this year. It's like, all right, let me tighten it up
Starting point is 00:36:38 and like try again next year. Like there was some ethics to like, progressing. Now it's just like, let me try to get on TikTok and have a video go viral. And then do an hour. Like then their first step is an hour. And that's, that's not the best. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah, that's a strange flex. Do a lot of people think that you, you think a lot of companies feel like they need to like do an hour now? No, no, I don't think, I mean, I think the first thing they put out is an hour. The first thing they put out is an hour. And guys have been doing, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:06 the thing with him and Greg and Joe is like, these guys have been doing comedy for 20 years. And so I've been doing it for 20 years too. Like, so it's like, we've been doing it for long times. He's been doing it for a long time. So it's like, you're showing him to go do an hour. You're like, yeah, dude, he can do, he can headline. He does an hour.
Starting point is 00:37:22 But then there's comics that are newer. And it's like, I mean, their only outlet is to be like, well, I got clicks on TikTok or whatever. I'll put out an hour. And you're like, man, it's, it's, it's hard to build up to be able to do an hour. You know, headlining, like, it's not an easy thing. Like it's a, but guys are going from,
Starting point is 00:37:40 they have a couple of clips to then just putting out a full hour special. And I think the discipline of working in the clubs, the way that we all worked in the clubs is now, it's not totally out the window, but I don't think we had no choice, but to grind in the clubs for years and years. And that's not a thing anymore.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's not as big of a thing as it used to be. That's interesting. Because, you know, podcasts and TikTok and Instagram, it's like, oh, this is where I'm gonna have my success. Why am I, why am I in the clubs every single night? Right, you can be loosely funny now versus having to be when you're on stage. It's like, no, it needs to be exact.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Because you're an audience is there and it's an immediate reaction. And now you can, it seems like you can shoot a bunch of videos and then you just finally pick one that works or, you know, whatever it is. Yeah. Sorry, guys, my stepdad's in the hospital. Not really.
Starting point is 00:38:36 He actually passed away a couple of years ago, but he... But he would be in the hospital. My mom thinks about him a lot. Yeah, yeah. He would still be in the hospital if he was alive today, probably. He probably would. He was a warrior, he was a union guy.
Starting point is 00:38:48 He didn't give up, he showed up. Even in a coma, he was there every fucking day, non-responsive. Yeah, yeah. Clocking in, clocking out. We like to call it active listening. That's active listening is another positive way to say non-responsive.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You think that would you go get it all out to you? Because a guy like that, if you have a dad like that, he probably didn't get to talk to him that much. So when he finally gets to that coma, you're like, go let it out. Oh, that's a great podcast, Eddie Acoma Chatter. Yeah. You just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. Bring sons in that never got to tell their dad they love them or something. Yeah. Yeah, I've thought a lot about that. Like especially, I've thought a lot about, you know, I did this ketamine therapy where I got to, and there was a moment during it
Starting point is 00:39:33 where I actually got to spend time with my dad, right? Like as real as you and I are sitting right here, this as real as it felt on any sensory level, right? Which is crazy. I wouldn't just say that. I'm not a guy, you know, I don't know ghosts or anything like that. I'm not that guy.
Starting point is 00:39:47 But I got to spend time with them for maybe about like, what felt like maybe a minute or two minutes where he was, it was as real as any sense of mind ever knew that anybody was real. So I think it'd be interesting if you had, I thought if they had like mannequins or something where you could bring your parents old clothing or something or if your buddy got hit by a truck or something
Starting point is 00:40:06 or, you know, drove in like an embankment or something and died or something, he was peeled up. But you could go bring their stuff and then you spend time almost with the mannequin or maybe you put all of it into like a machine and the machine creates a hologram of them. And then you get to like, like I wonder if they'll have that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:40:23 in the future, you know? Or a place where you get to redo the dad's coma, you know? And there's like a fake dad in there laying in there. Some guys like the new Santa or whatever at the mall and he clocks in and you go in and you fucking sit by the bed for 40 minutes or whatever and get it out. But it's catamena hallucinogen.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah, dude, this shit. Is that cat tranquilizer? Is that what it is? I wouldn't be shocked, dude. I'll tell you, the catamena was, cause I used to do that on stage. I'd be like, are you guys all on catamine? And then, cause you guys feel like tired cats.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Why do you want to feel like a tired cat? I don't know. I didn't know it was a hallucinogen. I thought that was like acid or what's the other thing that's like acid, but it's safer and everybody, everybody does it now. You can do it. You have to, you can go to a place and do it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And, oh, the thing Aaron Rodgers did? Yeah, it's like that kind of. Oh, ayahuasca. Ayahuasca, yeah. Oh, I felt like I was like a bit moji stuck in the back of like a, I remember one time thinking I was like a, like a gigabyte or something stuck in the back corner of like a foot locker.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Like I was fucking out there, though. And where do you do this at? Like in a room? Yeah, just in a chill room. Like you go somewhere to do it? There was like a therapist in there with you. So it's like guided meditation, kind of what you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:41:42 So you did that? Yeah, that was pretty cool. If you're just shooting up at a fucking outside of a Jimmy John's or whatever, I don't think that's the way to, you know, do. Yeah, I wasn't doing that. That's the old school. Yeah, that was for the freelance version.
Starting point is 00:41:57 But this is more a little bit more sanctioned. But to get back to what you were saying, yeah, I think it would be interesting if they had like kind of reenactment stuff where you could go through and redo it. Is that what we're talking about? Comas, how we getting into that? Yeah, I like your podcast idea of going to somebody
Starting point is 00:42:13 with a coma that you have a lot to get out and they're in a coma now and you could just tell everything, just go 40 minutes, just go 45 minutes. Just talking about your feelings with no, nothing coming back. What's interesting, because sometimes you need that. You just post whatever the relationship,
Starting point is 00:42:32 whatever the relationship is, and then just go right into it. But I don't know if hospice will be cool with it. But also if you could get a blip on their thing, you'd fucking, that would be it. It'd be like blip hunters. And we go and we sit with somebody who's in a coma and they have their line or whatever on their heart reading.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And if you can fucking get them to blip or something. You know, you got through. That person wins, yeah. That's great, turn it into a game show. And if he doesn't, if you don't get a blip, then you're like, this guy's good. He's got, he's got, you're like, he doesn't feel anything. He's like, no, no, he's willing.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah, it would be, if you knew you were gonna die and still not give it anything in at all. Man, that's, it's a strong person. You had to go to the grave with something? Right, yeah. I don't know if I'd go to the grave with all my secrets. You got to tell them to somebody, tell them to a nephew. Tell them to somebody who doesn't need, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:32 A nephew. Throw that all on a nephew, like a young nephew. Oh, a nephew is just a time capsule for your bullshit. I feel like, you know. Yeah, a nephew, yeah. It's like someone that's like, I didn't really know my uncle. And then I really knew my uncle.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Like, just right before he died, he just unleashed on me. And I got to carry that around. That's my mom, he was talking to her like, he, you know, like just a lot. It's just a lot to throw on a nephew, but it's got to go somewhere, you know what I mean? Yeah, to get back to kind of what you guys were saying about like, yeah, I think having clips and stuff
Starting point is 00:44:07 obviously is helpful to people these days. I think people more than ever want to see some person, a person get to know a person and their personality, you know. I think it's even what's nice about being involved in like podcasting world is that people want to get to know somebody because for so long, it was so formulaic. It was like you just got this person that had kind of
Starting point is 00:44:31 been through this system and the system was all kind of dictated and that's who kind of got to a level where people were able to see their work, you know. And now I think people are wanting to get to know people more, maybe hypothetically, I'm guessing. And then so they listen to podcasting, they get to know people, they get to know people that are on the episodes.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It's a pretty small universe after a while. And then they feel a little bit more connection. So then when they're sitting in the audience, they're also getting to see this person and not just the material. They get to know where it kind of comes from. Yeah, I think they, you know, I sat in the audience one night, I was watching a guy who, a podcaster,
Starting point is 00:45:20 and I was like, oh, a lot of the audience, I could feel it. They're just excited to be here in the room with me. You know, it's cool. And I even thought, I was like, man, yeah, this is cool. We're literally just hanging out with them here. If the material is good or bad, we're hanging out with them here. You know, pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, that's where the, they got to feel the love though. Like it's like the, you know, like when you, say when people go see you live, it's they want to be able to feel that appreciation you have for them coming out. And like that doesn't need to be taken advantage of because it's a, you know, people, it's, you know, expensive to go see anything, to do anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And so they want to feel that you care as much as they do. That's a good point, man. I got to remember that. Sometimes I let people know that I care, you know, sometimes I forget. I think it shows. It's going to show. I think it shows.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I've seen your shows and I think it shows. And it's that, and that's an important thing. Cause there's people that don't have that. And I mean, I think a big aspect of Hollywood doesn't have that anymore. And the stuff that they, a lot of stuff they make is so disconnected. And it's that it's, it doesn't translate.
Starting point is 00:46:40 That's why Top Gun was the biggest movie. Cause it was like, not that you're going to relate to it, but it was like, you felt the appreciation of just as a movie goer to be like, you gave me a fun movie, dude. Like it was just, I had a good time. And it wasn't this giant, heavy, whatever thing. It was just a good time. And it was a time when everybody needed that to go.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I just need to go have some fun. Fucking fun for two hours. Yeah. And now, and everybody had a blast. Tom Cruise does an amazing job at that with a. That's a good point. Yeah. All mission impossible. All that dude's just a fun dude. It's just super fun.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And then other movies are these movies that a lot of times in Oscars where people you're like, I've never even heard of that. I've never heard of that. And you're like, yeah, I get it's probably this artistic masterpiece or whatever. But you're like. Yeah. Majority.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Or something. It's always like if somebody was gay that we can't ask if they're gay anymore. Yeah. You know? It was like Homo Napoleon. Yeah. Like that's a movie. I don't know about that dude.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. Harriet Tubb women. And you're like, I don't know if she was a lesbian. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, they're just like, that's true, dude. Why is Hollywood got so disconnected, you think? I thought the movies in the 80s were great. They were great.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah. It was just like fun, whatever. And no one, I think that now we overthink everything. It's like, yeah, if something was potentially offensive, it'd be like, maybe they didn't, they probably didn't mean it that way. They were just trying to have fun. So everybody just didn't take it for more
Starting point is 00:48:05 than it actually was. Yeah. So now I think we're just so hypersensitive. They're not, yeah. I don't think they're like relatable or like there's not used to go, I think go to the movies and you could be like, that was you in the movie.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You could relate to it. You could see, you know, Ferris Bueller's day off, right? Like it's like, it's like a kid that's skipping school and it's an extreme version of it, but it's a fun version. That's why- Vacation, yeah. Vacation is like, everybody's been on that vacation.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You know what I mean? Family just going and everything goes wrong. That's why Entourage was so big. Cause Entourage was just like, yeah, if you made it and you're like, this is me and my boys. How would you think? We made it. And you're like, we'd be like that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 We'd be, they were living it up. And that's why that show and that even the movie, like dudes loved it. Cause it was just like, yeah, dude, that would be us. And you wanted to live through that. And that's what made stuff so- And I loved it too. Cause they always did the thing where it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:06 we didn't get it. Oh, we can always go back to Queens and just chill as boys. And then wait a second, we did get it. I love it. And everybody's like, it's just like, you know, it's coming, but it's just like- It's just nice.
Starting point is 00:49:18 It's nice. It makes you feel good. Yeah. I went back and watched on the whole Entourage. Oh, Entourage, I've never seen it. Oh, it's great. I'm saving that for when I get a little bit older. I think there's some series I'm saving.
Starting point is 00:49:30 The wire, Sopranos, Malcolm in the middle. And what was one you guys just said? Entourage. Entourage. There's a four big ones that I'm saving. I'm trying to think of what else I'm saving. You got to save anything? I watched the wire and that was, it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I didn't really, like it was, I need to probably go watch it again. It just feels like a whole thing. I was blown away by the wire. I was really blown away by it. It's really cool. I thought it was- College educated.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I thought it was the greatest thing. Yeah, it's probably for a smarter crowd. Yeah. But I just thought it was unbelievable. And I thought the Sopranos was really good, but the wire is just so well done. Yeah. And didn't get the credit it deserved at the time,
Starting point is 00:50:15 obviously. The wire, dude. No, not at the time. When it was on, it didn't get the credit, but afterwards people are like, it's brilliant. You know, it's a great show. I mean, most people, not you. I think it's supposedly great.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It's great. I think it was just a lot. Yeah. It's a lot of talking, right? Yeah, it's a lot of talking. It's a lot of talking. It's an intricate story, but the guys were writers in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:50:40 The guy who created it was a beat writer in Baltimore. Oh, respect. So that's why it's like you could see that that guy like actually knew what was going on instead of like most cop shows, which is a caricature of what's going on, you know? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I could see that. Excuse me. Yeah. I could see that that's interesting. I used to love In the Heat of the Night was a show that I loved. And then I always romanticized A Little House on the Prairie.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I love that. Yeah, I remember watching that. I love that TDS television. Never really watched it. I'm aware of it, but I never watched it. God, you don't have to fucking watch it. Yeah, boy. You guys in Nashville, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You don't know what we went through. Dude, our sister got kicked by a horse and we're blind, dude. You don't know. That's like a Nashville show? Or a Southern? Southern Rural. It's a Rural show.
Starting point is 00:51:27 It's a Rural show, probably. Yeah, probably. Like Andy Griffith. We watched that. It's probably a Rural show. I went to the statue where they have Andy Griffith. Bring that up. There's a statue of Andy Griffith in Raleigh, Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah, I want to say Mount Arie. Yeah, but Mount Arie is kind of close to somewhere. But Arie, oh no, that's Barney. That's Barney's Don Nuts. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I was just talking about Ron. Ron Howard's got a pretty wild career. He has, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:01 I mean, just to be on that show. Yeah. You're on this gigantic show to go to Happy Days, to then start directing movies that are the... Happy Days was really great. Happy Days was great. Were you entering college when that came out? And it was like kind of a rebirth for Italians,
Starting point is 00:52:17 I feel like, wasn't it? The Fonz. The Fonz was the best. Were they Italian or...? I used to tell a Fonz. My clothes used to be a Fonz joke. Oh, Fonz was the best. Fonz was the best.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I used to have this Fonz joke. It was, oh, do you guys hear what happened to the Fonz? He got AIDS. Yeah. And if I am, it didn't end well, man. And some woman one time yelled out, like, I have AIDS. And everybody's like, what the fuck? I'm just saying about you.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, it's about the Fonz. Oh my god. It's about Italians. Yeah. Jesus, dude. It's about fun. I mean, what are you doing? Be smart, don't start.
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Starting point is 00:56:37 and use code theovon60 for 60% off plus free shipping. Hello Fresh, baby, it's good. Oh, you gotta pee or not? No I can hold it now, he's good. I wrap my head around it. Yeah, he's just mentally tough. Yeah, mentally. He's a big mafia guy too.
Starting point is 00:57:00 And we can connect him out with other people that are sensitive and energetic and we'll see what he can so in maybe 20 days or something like that. A big mafia guy too. I love the mob, I love, I look, cause all these guys have podcasts now. Right, oh yeah, a lot of these guys are.
Starting point is 00:57:17 So I listen to all the podcasts and stuff and I'm just fascinated by what it was. Cause I followed it when I was growing up, you know, I'd read all the books and everything. And then, and now what it's become with all these guys having podcasts, it's just, it's really something. Yeah, what's a good one?
Starting point is 00:57:33 What's it, if I want to listen to some mob and stuff like that, what's a good one to get into? Well, I think that it goes the highest, the higher ranking member that you are when you flip the bigger the podcast it is. So like Sammy the Bull, I watch his, it's fascinating. Graviano, is that him?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Gravano. Gravano, yeah. That sounds like some kind of a gravy that you would get it out of. Graviano? Graviano, yeah. You would ask what that is at the restaurant, you go, what's this Graviano?
Starting point is 00:57:57 You got to look it up. Like it's French. Yeah. We can't afford it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was like one for the table. He was, if you don't mind splitting that appetizer. He was the underboss of the Gambino crime family.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And he flipped in like 1990, 91. And so, and he did, he got out of prison in five years because of his cooperation. But then he got caught in ecstasy ring in Arizona and went back and did 20 years. And then he got out. So now he has this podcast and he's telling these stories
Starting point is 00:58:30 and they're just riveting. So he was a very high ranking member. Plus John Gotti, everybody knows his name. He is a big name recognition. So he's probably the most highest profile guy because he was an underboss of a huge crime family. But Michael Francis is another guy who was a Colombo captain.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So the higher rank you are, I think, the bigger your following is coming up when you flip. Do you have to be pure Italian to be in the mafia? They had a rule where it was for a long time that you had to be Italian on both sides. I mean, way back in the day, I think you had to be Sicilian on both sides. But then Italian on both sides.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And then as, I think now it's, your father has to be Italian because you become what your father, that's the way they look at it. What your father. And there's still, they're not like now, it's not. Now it's like they don't kill anymore. There was a thing on the commission
Starting point is 00:59:31 where they were like, not because they're more moral or anything. Did Peter got to them? Yeah. What's the commission? The commission is the bosses of the five families in New York and then families from other cities. They sit on like a national commission
Starting point is 00:59:44 and decide policies for the entire mafia in the, it's all connected. Like an Elclodge, they meet up. Like Knights of Columbus. Yeah, Knights of Columbus. I think I did a show for them. Dude, they, is there still the mafia? There is, but they don't, they,
Starting point is 01:00:01 I don't know what the word, this is in your warehouse because I don't know what the word, what's more moratorium? Oh, moratorium? Yeah, what's that mean? I think it's a moratorium on killing, which is like they don't do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:00:12 They don't, they don't kill anymore. And it's not because they're moral. Is it more? Temporary probation? I used it right. Okay. Temporary probation of an activity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:21 So it's a moratorium on killing, which is, which means it's not because they're moral people or anything, it's just that they'll get 30 year sentences for murder. Like if there's a murder conspiracy or something, if they get charged with racketeering, you know, or gambling, they might do five years, seven years. And these guys can do five and seven and 10 years.
Starting point is 01:00:42 That's not a big deal to them. But if it's, if there's a murder conspiracy wrapped into that, it automatically goes to 30 years. So they, and because there's so many cooperators now, they go, okay, it's not profitable for us to kill each other anymore. So what they do now,
Starting point is 01:00:55 I think is they just put guys on shelves. It's called putting a guy on a shelf, which is they just don't talk to him anymore. And he's not allowed to be involved in any mob activity. Wow. So it's interesting. It's like a timeout kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's like a timeout, but they could have been doing that all along. You know what I mean? You didn't have to kill anybody ever. Yeah. That's what we don't realize sometimes. What would we talk about now? If throughout history,
Starting point is 01:01:17 they hadn't all been killing each other. If they'd have been just timeout, it would have been, yeah, you wouldn't have taken them serious where you go put me in timeout. Yeah. And he goes, yeah. Yeah, I will. But the thing about that
Starting point is 01:01:27 is I don't know how they threaten each other now. It's like, you owe me money. The whole big thing I had over these, like you better pay me or I might kill you. You know, like I say, I have a like a dangerous reputation. So now that people know, it's like, oh, there's no more killing.
Starting point is 01:01:41 It's like, I guess I could hurt you. Yeah. I could talk about you. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I could tweet it. I could cancel you.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yes. Maybe they could threaten that. Right. They're going to just put it out. Talks about women pretty roughly. Don't do that to me, dude. Don't do that. I have a family.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I have daughters. He goes, well, yeah, they could, is there, but is there, so what are the mob? What's their crime now? It's mostly gambling, even though gambling is legal. Loitering.
Starting point is 01:02:12 They're not doing anything anymore. Yeah. They're hanging out. That is lorry. Can you make money on loitering? Loitering. Loitering. It's loitering.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Loitering. It's gambling, and they still have union. They're corrupted unions and stuff. Like a lot of trash and recycling. Trash and rehaul. Yeah, hauling. Yeah, recycling's always a loose. You're like, what is recycling?
Starting point is 01:02:34 I don't know if I believe in recycling. Well, some weeks they pick up the bin, some weeks they don't. Yeah, where are they doing? You ever see, Atlanta's airport has a recycling thing, and it says like paper, or bottles, paper,
Starting point is 01:02:46 and then regular trash. And if you look inside of it, it just goes to the, it's one bag. It's not separated. It's at Atlanta's airport. And you're like, well, we're not even doing it. But I think there's cameras to see what kind of a person you are.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That's what it's about. Yeah, and then it affects your credit score probably. Yeah. That's how the New York water system is too. It's just all the same thing. Yeah. I'm over there watching a Lego set going to someone's house.
Starting point is 01:03:12 First of all, also, why did they have it court ordered? Why were they having court ordered people work at the water facility? That seems like you'd want to protect the water. Well, you'd want like a technician or something. I remember they put these goggles on us and I'm out there like, you know, just making sure that there's nothing in it.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Like, fuck, I don't fucking know what's in it. Yeah. Oh, like, yeah, you're really doing like science stuff. I guess. I mean, you had to like have like, like handies and footies on or whatever. And then you were out there and you were just watching the tanks, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah. Why would they have criminals, basically? Yeah. There's no background check. Yeah. This might have been mob related. Yeah, this really could be. Oh, we got dirty water, right?
Starting point is 01:03:56 That's my fucking mob named dirty water. Was the mob in the south? No, they never, I mean. Florida, but. Florida, but New Orleans. Carlos Marcello was in, they were actually responsible for the Kennedy assassination, those guys.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Wow. Some of the bosses like Carlos Marcello, I think was one of them who put together the Kennedy assassination. Wow. The guys who really did it. Yeah, I watched something on that where it was like eight,
Starting point is 01:04:22 it was supposed to be like eight dudes. Yeah. Like a lot more people involved in. Yeah, it doesn't seem like. Part of the Irishman was like that where it was like they were transferring guns over to, because I mean, that's just too convenient that Jack Ruby, who was an associate
Starting point is 01:04:36 of I believe the Chicago mob, he was in Texas at the, you know, in Texas at the time. And he, you know, Oswald was the passing. And then he shot Oswald on TV. It's like he was direct, he owned strip clubs in Texas and was directly connected with the Chicago outfit.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So that makes a lot of sense, you think? I think it makes a lot of, I think they were the ones who did it the month. They were, they felt, I mean, you could hear them on wire, they were illegal wiretaps at the time, but they were furious that they felt like they got Kennedy elected through their unions.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And. And he turned on them. And he turned on them with Robert Kennedy as the attorney just going after them. And they were like, and those guys were like, not what they are today. They were very, very serious guys. And they could get stuff done.
Starting point is 01:05:22 They would not care. They would not bat an eye at it. So I think they were the ones who did it, you know? Why that really sounds really, really realistic. Then just that some got like, then a lot of other vague kind of rushing conspiracy stuff. It's a little more far-fetched. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 That Oliver Stone thing was like, the Cubans were involved at this level. The Italians were, I don't think it was like that. I think it was one group. And then I think it was, I think it was the mob at the time. And they were just like, we've had it with this guy. He's like, you know, he's putting pressure on us.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And, you know, and the thing was, I was like, oh, kill Robert Kennedy. It's like, no, the whole thing that they said is cut the horse's head off and the body will die. Which means kill the president. And then his attorney general will be ineffective. Yeah. But he killed them, they killed him.
Starting point is 01:06:10 They killed John F. Kennedy. But then Robert Kennedy was killed by Sir Hein, Sir Hein, who was not related to anything. Bobby Kennedy's been on here before. He's a friend of mine, his Robert Kennedy son. Oh, really? Yeah. He, I think he might be running for,
Starting point is 01:06:24 for the Democratic nomination maybe. Yeah. Cause he's a Democrat, he's a Democrat, but he's kind of like a new Democrat, I think you would almost think. I think that party needs to kind of like, figure itself out a little bit. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:06:37 They've gone off the deep end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know everything it's like, if you're not like a trans cornrow or something, you don't even get elected. Right. Yeah. I watched the thing with the JFK.
Starting point is 01:06:52 There's, with the JFK, like there's like shooters, like there's someone in a sewer too. Yeah, right. You hear the sewer? Yeah. Well the grassy knoll thing I think is, I'm explaining it for me, it's like there was gunmen in that grassy knoll
Starting point is 01:07:06 and they, the way that the, the elaborate way that they set it up. I mean, just for the disappearance of Hoffa, how that could like, how prominent that guy was and how famous that guy was. And for him just to be, for them just to go, he needs to, like he was warned like in the movie,
Starting point is 01:07:22 like the Irishman, I don't know if you guys saw that, but he was, the story is like, he's warned several times cause he goes to prison, he comes out and he wants to take the union back. And his predecessor, Frank Fitzsimmons, was the head of the unit and they, they love dealing with him more because Hoffa would resist them a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I'll give you this, you give me this, he'd work with them, but he wasn't a complete patsy for them. Fitzsimmons would just give them whatever they wanted. So once Fitzsimmons was in, they were like, we're just, we're better, we're better off with him being the union president.
Starting point is 01:07:50 And Hoffa was like, no, I want my union back. And they warned him several times like, back off, you're a nice man, you have a nice family, back off. And he's like, I want my union, I want my union. And finally they were like, okay, that's it. And they made this, this guy of this level of fame just disappear. And they had to know like,
Starting point is 01:08:09 the heat was gonna come down, there was gonna be search for him like, nobody, no crime, just nobody talked. And it's just whatever, it's insane. What do they think? Do they think he's barrier or they just probably burn it? I think, yeah, I think what happened was they killed him at that, like,
Starting point is 01:08:29 they killed him and then they brought him to, like they were all connected with legitimate businesses. So they brought him to a mortuary or whatever and had him cremated and then his ashes. Who was that, Fitzsimmons? No, no, no, Hoffa. Oh, Hoffa. Yeah, I think they just,
Starting point is 01:08:44 they killed him in a quiet, like a house somewhere, like in the movie. I don't know if that movie is true. I don't know if that guy, the Irishman killed him, but he was killed at like a quiet residence which somebody they were connected to. And then his, and then other guys, I think the body, I think that's true though,
Starting point is 01:09:01 that whoever killed him shot him and left. And then they had a second crew of guys take him and dispose of the body. That way, if it's ever prosecuted, like, they, you know. There's two parts of it. Yeah, there's two parts of it. And if you don't get both of them. If the shooter's like, well, where's the body?
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's like, well, I don't know where it is. It's like, cause they had other guys come in and dispose of the body. Oh, that's smart, huh? Yeah, it's smart. They were like a very intelligent guy. I mean, evil, obviously, but like very intelligent in terms of like how they got away with that.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And granted, there wasn't the cameras and the documentation that's required today, but the way they did it is just, I mean, that guy was one of the most famous people in the country, if not the world, and they just disappeared him. That's crazy. I wonder if I'd be good at mafioso-ing.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Do you think you'd, do you have any of that? And you said in the beginning, you got that dog in you when it comes to wrestling. Yeah. You got that ability to work hard. Where would you have been in the mafia, you think? There's three kinds of mafia guys. There's guys who are make a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:10:05 There's guys who are stone cold killers. And then there are guys who are both, which is the rarest. So the guys who are stone cold killers call the money guys. It's like, oh, you guys are soft cause you can't kill anybody. And the money guys go to the stone cold killers like you can't make any money.
Starting point is 01:10:20 You're hanging on to us because we're making all the money. And the guys who are both are like the most dangerous guys. Who would have been both? Well, they say that Sammy the Bull was both. He was a stone cold killer and he was involved in unions. And now he has a podcast.
Starting point is 01:10:36 And now he has a podcast. So that just shows you right there where it's all heading, you know? Are we going to get to the point though where we've run out of the build, like we've run out of the time where anybody's done anything. And now we're all just talking
Starting point is 01:10:51 about things that are being done. That's true. That is possible. Yeah. That is very true. I think about that. What do I think about that recently? Cause it was like your,
Starting point is 01:11:05 well, college is a point of, you know, I think a lot of colleges like nothing's, no one's actually doing something. Right. It's everybody's, there's a lot of talking and there's a lot of, you know, but no one's living the way that they're talking. Cause it's a lot of work.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I was, I'm reading a book, the atomic habits. And I was talking to him about it. Like, cause I'm trying to build more habits in my life. Like, I'm like, I have a, with food, like, so I, I was, I weighed like almost 200 pounds or 195, like the last February. Okay. And like,
Starting point is 01:11:46 Is that a lot? It's, yeah. Okay. For me, I don't have the frame to, it was just, oh, I'm going to just eat fast food and whatever, eat garbage and, and so then I went hard and lost weight for this, for my special Hello World
Starting point is 01:12:01 and now I got down to 160. Okay. And then so I'm doing Red Rocks coming up in May. And the whole point was, I started this journey. I did like a before picture at Red Rocks. I wasn't playing Red Rocks, Red Rocks, but I was, I went there and cause I was in Denver doing a show somewhere else and I took before pictures.
Starting point is 01:12:18 And then I was like, oh, maybe by the time I can play here, I'll be skinny. And then I get down to 160 and now I've gained it back. And I'm going to end up going back to Red Rocks and I'm not going to be skinny. I'm going to be back to, I mean, I'm starting to go, I'll be less, but you know, it's like, my goal did not work out.
Starting point is 01:12:35 And it's very frustrating and very like, you're just like kind of like depressed, like just like, oh, like, why can't I just keep this? Uh-oh, good pattern, a good. A good pattern, yeah. Well, I'm so addicted to this food that I can't, I spiral out and then I like had the motivation for the special, like you can get excited about something,
Starting point is 01:12:56 but how do you keep that going? You know, you kind of, I hit the goal of the special. I'm 160, I've lost 45 pounds or something. And then I just, now I'm back to 180 and you're like, I don't, and you're like, why can't I keep that going? And cause it's so hard to actually do the work. Like to actually continue to do, it's very easy. I can talk about it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I can tell you all the stuff that you got to do. And you go, we got to drink more water and we got to do all these things, but I can't do it. I can't physically do it. And so that book, I'm trying to read the atomic habits is like that guy talks about habits. And you know, it's like, you got to just do these things. He's very good at habits.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Like Mike gets up and does the same kind of thing every morning. He's institutionalized. Yeah, but you got to be institutionalized. Yeah, that's, and that is something that college does show you. It's something that we don't have. And it's hard for us too as comics,
Starting point is 01:13:47 cause you kind of have a freedom of like, there's no one really telling us what to do. There's not a boss. We don't have a, you know, someone watching us. So that's going like, you can't do that. You could just quit this today. And then just no one's going to, No one's going to call me and tell me to come back to work.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yeah, yeah. So when you don't have that, you just are kind of lost as you got to, you got to have it on your own. And it is hard to have. It is hard to have. But the amount of knowledge that we have now is like, that's why I learned everything now.
Starting point is 01:14:15 It's like through the internet, through podcasts and through information. Like I didn't know, I wish I would have known some of this stuff when I was like cutting weight or training or whatever. Like, I didn't know like. But you still got to do it. You still got to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:29 But the thing is like, I cut sugar. That helped me a lot because everybody's body is different, I guess, but mine was like, you have to cut sugar. Really? Because it's hard at first. It's hard for like a week, week and a half, two weeks. But once you, once it's out of your, you realize, it's like, oh, this is what was addicting me.
Starting point is 01:14:46 That's why I had that, the feeling he was talking about, which is it's uncontrollable. I got to eat. I got to gouge my. Oh yeah. I got to eat, like overeat and stuff. But that's what, it's like, when I feel that now, I go, oh, I've had too much sugar.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Oh yeah. I mean, I'll have it at nights and I'll have those little baby buckets of Pringles. Have you had them? Yeah. Oh yeah. Dang, they're good. Oh, it's the best.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. I ate some the other day. Oh, and they're so, there's just like eight or nine in there. And you almost feel like it's a little family or whatever they're all sleeping in there when you open it. Yeah. You know, you feel like a big giant. Like, oh, yeah, stay asleep.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I'm gonna eat you. They're, it's, they're the best. I had some, the other, I just got back from Europe and they were, and I had, they had Pringles there. My daughter always eats Pringles, but you'd think, oh, I'll just eat four and then I'll eat a couple more. Oh, they're fucking good.
Starting point is 01:15:37 And then I started eating them two at a time. And then you're just- Oh, that's crazy. You eat Pringles two at a time? Yeah. Fuck, dude, it's like a different, you don't, it's almost- Well, my head, I'm trying to, you're lying to yourself
Starting point is 01:15:45 to be like, well, it's like one. It's, you know, because it's one, you know. Same shape. All this, yeah. And then you just end up beating the whole thing. Did you see, you know, if I have a lot of chocolate, it makes my feet itch to the point where I'll scratch right through the skin on the top of my feet.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Wow. So I know I probably shouldn't be having it. Yeah. Did you see this thing? Speaking of like two is one, there was this, what was this thing I saw about mice? See if you can Google this up brother about, they took mice like a circle circulatory system,
Starting point is 01:16:17 right, of an older mice. It was about, they're trying to keep people alive longer, right, this guy just invested. Google like investor in life expansion. It's like 180 million. Here we go, yeah. Oh yeah, this guy who, he wants to reverse his aging or something?
Starting point is 01:16:33 Yeah, let's go back to the top. Let me see what the heading is. Man has invested $180 million to make humans live for longer. That doesn't feel like enough money. Right. I don't, like, you're like, well, do you really want it? You're like, that's all it costs? Not, that's a lot of money, but everything's billions
Starting point is 01:16:49 now and you're like all these crazy numbers. Yeah. He's like, as the rich world, it's feel like this guy like, he's like, I'll give you a thousand dollars see if you can make me live. He's like, all right, I mean, I'll try. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:17:01 I mean, mice can you even buy for 180 million? Like, I mean, I imagine you need a lot of mice. Well, and Twitter costs how many billion? 44 billion. Let's do it for 180 million. $180 million, he's gonna do, he's gonna make us live forever. Good.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I don't think you could get the mice that you need and the scientists. You're like, you're gonna be, like he's gonna be sitting in the budget room and they're like, look, we can either, what do you wanna do? You wanna spend more money on the mice or do you wanna buy a couple more scientists?
Starting point is 01:17:30 And it's like, you gotta make a decision. Yeah, I think you gotta go scientists at that point because a lot of your mice are gonna be running the same game, dude. I guess you're hoping mice, they have more mice. Well, I think that, well, this guy, some frickin' little Yiddish Frankenstein, this dude, Sam Altman.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Was this the guy that went to jail? No. Yeah, I thought that's Sam Altman, bankman. No, that's Sam Friedman. Sam Friedman, yeah. So a different Jewish kid, but still young entrepreneur. Go back up to the beginning. What did it say, this guy? Altman is hoping to achieve the latter goal with the,
Starting point is 01:18:09 Altman has described emptying his bank account to fund two particular goals, limitless energy, through investment, the fusion power startup, healing on energy, and extending the lifespan. So he has $180 million. Right, God. Yeah. I'd call, I think I would just do your best
Starting point is 01:18:32 to live more in the time that you have than try to get 10 more years. Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe it'll start at 10 more years and then 20 and then, you know, build that way. He extends that and you're the frickin' life God and you're just granting years to people. Like you're out on the street and people run up
Starting point is 01:18:48 and like, you know, I gotta finish an essay and there's like two more months. You're just granting people something, you know? But go back to what it said about mice. What was the thing about mice? This is the part that I was trying to get to. Extended lifespan, Altman's interest in an extended lifespan came from following discovery of young blood research
Starting point is 01:19:07 which saw old and young mice being sewn together so they shared a blood system. The old mice seemed to be partly rejuvenated as a result of the experiment. And after hearing of the apparent success, Altman tasked his staff at the time with looking into the progress being made by anti-aging scientists.
Starting point is 01:19:24 So that's crazy. They basically sewed an old person and an old mouse and a young mouse together. And then the old- Sounds like a comedy movie. The old and young. Yeah, it does, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Now they have to figure it out. Yeah. So they auditioned and he goes, so I'll be the young mice, they go, no, you're the old mice. That's how you find out you're old in Hollywood. No, you're the old mice. Come on.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I got a few good years left. He takes out his mouth to eat some cheese. He puts in his... But is that what Magic Johnson has been doing? He's been getting blood transfusions all these years. He's very healthy. So it's like, maybe that's what it is. You're supposed to give young blood more.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Did you even know that? Yeah. Someone told me it was like with testosterone. Like if you get testosterone, you're supposed to, you got to give blood a lot. But I think you're supposed to give blood a good bit. Because it helps you get more blood inside of you? All right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:19 It's like, maybe I don't know anything other than someone said that to me. Are we supposed to donate blood? Oh, here we go. This other thing this guy said, plasma therapy. So if you get young blood and put it in you, maybe that's... Young blood sounds like something that brothers say to each other,
Starting point is 01:20:34 except young blood. I think they do say that to each other, yeah. You know, if you're in the gangs, is the gangs a new mafia? The gangs? The gangs would be, are they? The gangs are dangerous. But the gangs are just dangerous. The gangs are, like, dude,
Starting point is 01:20:49 I think if the bloods or crypts came out with merch, bro, they would crawl. Like how do you not have fucking merch? Yeah. Yeah. And it was just got to be blue and red, like basic merch. It's not even... Yeah, you don't need like refrigerator magnets
Starting point is 01:21:04 or nothing like that. Look at the handkerchiefs. I mean, you're going... You guys should be patting that, you know? If you can sell drugs, you can sell merch. Easy, dude. Somebody rolls up on you with the fucking little, you know, a 70 sack of sweatshirts.
Starting point is 01:21:19 But then they get in the merch game and then that's not fun. Yeah, that's true. And then they're all on the block with these big boxes. Yeah, that's what, yeah. And kids sell you M&M's or something like that. They just also have like a hat. You gotta take some peanut M&M's and maybe two of those hats.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Yeah, I appreciate it. The cops are like, hey, you got anything on you? They're guys have fucking huge boxes, 70 hats. This is unlicensed, seriously. We caught them. Well, in New York, you know, when you buy purses or like on the street. So supposedly you're supposed to buy from the guys
Starting point is 01:21:49 that have them wrapped in a blanket because those are the ones that they get in trouble for selling. So like the guys that are on the sidewalk with a, you know, with like a table or something. That are going to be able to sit there all day. Well, they have permission to be there. You need the guys that have them all wrapped in a blanket
Starting point is 01:22:07 that if a cop comes, they got to go. All right, see ya. And then they got to run off. So that's what I always heard. You want to buy from them. Oh yeah, the guy that's really trying to hide something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need someone that can go to jail.
Starting point is 01:22:18 He's got some skin in the game. I respect that. Yeah, I was thinking, what are we talking about? The gangs are dangerous, man. But instead they just pretend like they own real estate. They don't own fucking shit, right? They're kind of doing shitty business. The bloods, like they like, we own this block
Starting point is 01:22:38 and it's like, you know, a bulldozer shows up and they're fucking gone. They're like, we don't own shit. They need to get in the, well, they probably would need organization like the mafia. The mafia. Well, yeah, it's like they have legitimate, like the thing about the mafia is one,
Starting point is 01:22:50 they're ingrained in normal, regular society. So they have legitimate businesses. They were involved in politics. So they had all that. They would take the illegal money and like put it into legal places and illegal places. They would just like, but it doesn't seem like the gangs do that.
Starting point is 01:23:07 You know what I mean? It seems like they need like the white collar end of it to be like funneling the money and making, you know. Yeah, the gangs. So they can have wealth. They need the partner. They almost need that other mouse to get sewn next year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Yeah. They need a healthier mouse in some ways. Like if the, I feel like if the bloods or the crypts in the Italians and the mafia linked up. They are at some level, I think some of the families have like the gangs. They work, they do work together. Do Italians and black people work well together?
Starting point is 01:23:39 Do you feel like, has there ever been like Italian versus black people beef? I know like Chinese and black people don't get along great. Yeah. And somebody said like aliens and black, like black people have beef with aliens or something. But even the aliens are like, they can't even come down here and be like good dude.
Starting point is 01:23:58 I don't know what happened. I just heard that, bro. That means that we're going to watch alien movies about with black people and being like, they don't even, you're like, come on. Black versus aliens? I can see that shit in a heartbeat though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Oh, that would be very fun. But there's a lot of like- That's like snakes on a plane. Yeah. The same kind of vibe. You know? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of like street air beef,
Starting point is 01:24:21 I guess, between those parties. But yeah, just wonder was there ever like, I think the whole common thing is cause a lot of, with black gangs and with also, there's the thing in New York now with Albanians who come into Italian controlled family territory and they start gambling operations. And they're, you know, Albania is like a war-torn,
Starting point is 01:24:45 you know, very tough place to come from. So the Italians are like, you better not do that. And the Albanians are like, or what? Right. You know? And then just kind of like, bring it. You know, we'll fight you. And you know, the Italians like, the street Italians
Starting point is 01:25:01 are like on the downswing now because we're just, you know, third, fourth generation. Yeah. And the Albanians are like first generation just coming from a war-torn area. So they're just like, don't whatever- You still make loud noises on your- He doesn't.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Talking with your hands. That's who he is. Talking with your hands. He's on the fucking mat. He's a fucking- Sorry, yeah. He's a hit man. It's the fact that you let them drop like anchors.
Starting point is 01:25:22 You lift them and then you just go and you just drop them. There's no control. Well, I don't know how you accentuate making a point. Is that you, the Italians have, you're Italian. You have heavy hands. Imagine when you're his parent and he wakes up in the morning and you fucking know.
Starting point is 01:25:36 He's like a 60 year old man going down the hall. Yeah. You just hear the steps. When you would walk around upstairs with your family because you have the strength to lift it but then you just let everything fall. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They're like, how's Mikey doing? They're like, he's seven months. He's up. Yeah. Yeah. There's no question. Did you see, yeah, now like a lot of the mafios that's even TikTok, did you see this guy,
Starting point is 01:25:59 this kid, Big Joe Signoro? Can you look him up on TikTok? Big Joe. You know what I'm talking about? See if you can find him. It's like, I almost started, like even with like episodes of Dateline there's no more murder because there's nobody.
Starting point is 01:26:15 But I think the Italians like, they're at a point where it's like, there's all these guys doing podcasts. Everybody's a cooperator. There's cameras. There's bugs everywhere. The Rico statues put them in jail for like 30 years. So I think the guys on the street now like, and I don't know, I just watch all of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:29 But it's like, I think they just want to quietly make money. Yeah. They just want to quietly make money and live in Staten Island or Long Island or some parts of Brooklyn. And they just want to quietly make money and just live their lives. They don't want any kind of like,
Starting point is 01:26:42 they don't want like a guy like Gotti coming in who's flashy or anything like that. They just want to, and they don't want to like a war with any, they don't want to war with them themselves. They don't want to war with other groups. They just want to quietly, quietly make money. Who was the guy that was the old guy that was super? Who was the best mob guy?
Starting point is 01:27:02 There's a competition between the Babe Ruth. I bet he knew Babe Ruth. Carlo Gambino, it's like, how much over, how many years can you be successful and on top? And the big thing is, how did you die? If you died in your bed, that's a win. Not in prison or getting shot in the face. So Carlo Gambino, they say was a,
Starting point is 01:27:24 he was the boss of the family for like 30 years and then died in his bed in like 1976. And there's a guy from Chicago. I forget his name. He ruled Chicago for like, since from the Capone days to like the early 90s. And he died in his bed. And that guy might be the most successful.
Starting point is 01:27:50 He might be the most successful. Cause no one even really knew him. They knew him on the street, but they tried to drag him in. And if you could, I don't know what the guy's name, from, he's from Chicago. His name was, his nickname was the big tuna. The big tuna from Chicago. Let's look him up, huh?
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yeah. And they tried like, they brought him in for like a Senate judiciary. They subpoenaed him and they brought him in. Yeah, Tony O'Cardo. There he is. Tony O'Cardo. So they bring him in and he talks, and then they keep trying to bring him in, but he just, he, they can't get anything on him.
Starting point is 01:28:22 So the last, his last hearing, it's actually very funny. I don't know if you could bring it up, but the last hearing it's like, he's like nine, he's like in his late 80s and they bring him in and they're just asking him questions. And he's so old that he can't hear half the, I watch it, I'm laughing. It's on YouTube?
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yeah, it's on YouTube. But he like, it just shows you that he beat the system. He spent like two days in prison his entire life. And it's just, it's a fascinating thing to watch that the guy is... There you go, right there. Do you recall when that was taken? No, sir.
Starting point is 01:28:57 Do you recall what you were doing at that time? No, sir. Were you here at the business meeting with Mr. Sero? No, sir. Good answers. And you're completely unaware of what he does for a living. No, sir. Outside of call.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Outside of call. So they think this guy did stuff? I mean, that guy was, from all like in informants and stuff and like the FBI information, that guy was the head, like on the top, like he probably retired and was overseeing it that he had, what the Chicago bosses would do. And in some of the New York guys,
Starting point is 01:29:30 they would have street bosses. So the real power would, cause too much heat, he would step back and then have a street boss takeover. That was like Sam Giancana and Joey Ayupa, some of these other guys and they ended up like Sam Giancana ended up getting murdered in his home. But a lot of these guys, Ayupa and Saron,
Starting point is 01:29:48 who they were talking about, ended up doing life sentences and never flipped. So they ended up doing life sentences so they would put a street boss in place to run things from day to day operations. But like on big policy questions, like that guy would be consultants. So that guy was there to take his ego out of it?
Starting point is 01:30:03 Yeah. And that's what's safe. I mean, after a while, you have enough money to be like, what am I, you know, I have enough money. I don't need the heat. I don't need the legal headaches. So I'll just step back and let somebody else run and just. Did that guy probably have people killed and all that?
Starting point is 01:30:17 I'm sure. Sam Giancana, like the only way Sam Giancana, who was the boss of the family, like for a while in the 60s and the 70s, for him to get killed had to be okayed by him. It had to be okayed by him. There's nobody higher, you know? So it's pretty fascinating the structure.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Also, another thing that fascinated me is guys being walked into a room and they're not sure if they're gonna die or not or if they're gonna get a wedding. And they go. Yeah. Yeah. And they go anyway.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Oh yeah, they have to because you're so scared and the in-laws paid for it. That's the fuck. That's how they get you. The wife's dad, that's why they pay for it. There's no old thing with trading a goat or whatever. It's because it's another linchpin for you to feel responsible to be there.
Starting point is 01:31:02 God, that breaks my heart. It's really great. That's like when you're, yeah, when someone orders the appetizer and you gotta eat it. You got a big Italian family and she keeps bringing food out and you have to eat it to be polite.
Starting point is 01:31:14 And that's what marriage is. You just try to be polite. Then they wheel out their daughter who's had a couple of few too many apps as well and you're fucking like, all right, I've already eaten everything else. I'll have a little. There you go.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah. All right, I'll take her in. I'll marry her. She's the goat. Yeah. That's the old saying. She's the goat. That'd be a good movie.
Starting point is 01:31:35 She's the goat. Yeah, she's the goat. She's the goat. And it's like a girl that kind of sounds like a goat. I think goat, the word the label goat is greatest of all time is pretty annoying now. I think it's being so overused that it's taking everything from what it was.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Right, I mean, Tom Brady was the goat and then he just kept goading so much that he like, he exhausted it. Yeah, we've, and we've used it. Now everybody's calling everybody goat something. And then people that are goats are, you know, they say they're the goat too. Oh yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And then you're like, LeBron calls himself the goat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good fuck. And you want to let other people say it. You do. That's old mafia. That's what the guy would just watch with you.
Starting point is 01:32:19 He never said he called himself the goat. No, yeah. He lets you, young Mike Beck Young. Could you be in the mafia? Absolutely not. I know, but it's how, like blood wise. Blood wise I could, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Yeah, yeah. You think you would be farther along in your career if you would have? You probably would. Absolutely, yes. That would have, that's the most, that's the most true. Yeah, dude, if you're in a mafia.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I'd like to be like a Sinatra. Like Sinatra wasn't in it, but he was adjacent to it. He sang to them. And yeah, he sang to them. They loved him. And like, if he needed a little bit of help, they would like muscle or whatever that would have. Was he full Italian?
Starting point is 01:32:54 Sinatra was. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Hoboken. I wonder if, yeah, I wonder if I could have mafia it or not. If I could have handled it. I think I would have gotten,
Starting point is 01:33:05 I would have fallen asleep on a little mission, like the first or third mission. They give you a couple bucks to go, you know, run over to Eddie's and get a fucking couple cuts of Salama or you know, Salam or whatever. And then I'd have fucked it up, dude. I'd have slept in it all. Well, it's good to mess that kind of stuff up.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It's good to mess early cause then they won't count on you. It's when you mess up the stuff like, there's just stuff that's like a death sentence where it's like, I didn't, you know, if you caught dealing any kind of drugs supposedly, it's like, that's death. You screw up.
Starting point is 01:33:35 If they tell you to go, like your order to kill him and you don't kill him, then they kill you and him. Oh, that's the worst, bro. You get back in the car and you haven't killed the guy. And now you gotta go back and pretend you're a plumber again or something. Well, yeah, you almost gotta go tell the guy,
Starting point is 01:33:49 look, I was supposed to kill you and I didn't cause I just don't have the heart to do it. And then you gotta hope that that guy doesn't kill it. You know, but you gotta like, I'm telling you this, they're gonna kill us both. So then could you go into hiding? That's a good move. So tell the guy, look, you right now it's gonna suck,
Starting point is 01:34:07 but you're gonna have to leave town. That's what I think you would be in the mafia. You would have got to the level of you to just end up having to talk to the guy and be like, yo, can we get out? I go back up. Yeah. And what do you gotta do?
Starting point is 01:34:19 Can you get out ever? I mean, these guys have, I mean, Michael Francis was the one guy who like never cooperated and just is out. There's a couple of guys like that who never, but you're not supposed to be able to get out. You take his blood oath where it's like, yeah, you're never getting out.
Starting point is 01:34:36 But those guys managed to get out. And these guys- Early blood oath, like two in me. Yeah. Yeah, early blood. Yeah, it's like fucking. They do a 23 in me on you now. Now they do a 23 in me on you.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Oh, it's gone up bad. Yeah. You're supposed to take a blood oath that you never, but there's guys like, the guys who cooperate now are not in witness protection anymore. They're just coming back to their old, they're living in the neighborhoods where they were.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Wow. When they were active and they're doing podcasts, which is kind of unbelievable that nothing happens to them. Yeah, I think it shows you how far it's gone, how far it's kind of dissipated in the sense that they want to do street crime. Well, it's probably history now.
Starting point is 01:35:13 And you want to be able to like- Document it. Yeah, you want to be able to document it and be like, we're not doing those things anymore. So it's probably okay for him to talk. Because then even if they got caught, you're like, a guy's on a podcast. They put guys away for 30 years from life.
Starting point is 01:35:28 They put all these guys in prison. And if you're in a mob and there's a brotherhood and you put my brothers in prison for 30 years, it's like, I don't know. I guess I could just go, well, that's the life now. And I'm not going to risk an attempted murder on a federal witness because I'm going to put myself in jeopardy then.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Yeah, but imagine you're sitting in prison listening to a guy who's a podcast who did the same things that you did and he's not getting in any trouble or nothing. He's making money. Yeah. And now you have like guys- And he's doing ads.
Starting point is 01:35:54 He's doing, yeah. He goes, all right, 23 and me, everybody. Check it out. Like you're just in prison stewing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Larry's vodka sauce. Yeah. And now you got God.
Starting point is 01:36:06 This is like the new kind of like mafia. It's on Twitter. Go to the one in a good, there you go. This guy. Let's turn him up and start it over. Big Joe Cigaro. Oh, Slick Tone, Big Joe. What's the quote of the day?
Starting point is 01:36:18 My wife gives me lemons. Make one orange juice. That's what he does. That's what he does. He tells you quotes, hit him. That's the same one. Hey, Slick, Big Joe. What's the quote of the day?
Starting point is 01:36:30 There's no such thing as good and bad money. It's just money. Mm, that's it. Walks away. He, well, I think he has somewhere to go a lot of times or something where he has like incontinence. Hey, Big Joe, Slick Tone, what's the quote of the day? Hey, how's Big Joe doing?
Starting point is 01:36:49 I'm doing great, Polly. Thank you for asking. What happened at the beginning of that video? I think there's still, yeah, it just shows you where the mafia is. Yeah, yeah, they're in kit. They're in school, they're in elementary school. If you don't want to know, Big Joe's cigar-o, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Big Joe, Big Joe, what's the quote of the day? Say you don't give a shit anymore. It's your wife. Dang, that's a good one. Yeah, you got to respect Big Joe's cigar-o, man. I don't know where he at. I don't know if he's a child or not, but that's where he at. He looks like it.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Yeah, that looked like high school. It could be, yeah. Like is he in, yeah, they got a middle school, maybe. I don't know. How often do kids go to school? They would. Yeah, where do they go? They can't go to regular class.
Starting point is 01:37:36 You can't have fucking Benny the Shrimp sitting there and fucking out. Is it looked down on if you go to a community college? If your kid is in community college, is that not? If you're Al Capone and you go, how's your kid doing? He goes, huh, he's in community college. You go, oh, is that not good? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:53 It'd be better to not go. To not go, usually you go to, I mean, they used to go to the military. That was the thing. You go to the military and then come out and then be able to like kill and stuff. Oh, because they, the military trained them to kill. Do you guys think that we should have
Starting point is 01:38:10 a separate gay and straight military ever? Like we should have an all gay military? Mm, that would be colorful. I think it'd be cool, almost. But I guess in the military, the people don't care. I don't ever hear any of my military friends saying there's any issues if people are gay or straight in the military.
Starting point is 01:38:24 No, I don't think that matters. I've heard outsiders kind of have thoughts on it, I've never heard anybody inside of it have thoughts on it. But they have a whole gay military. That'd be sick, huh? Yeah, it'd be flag heavy. Flag heavy, it'd be a lot of parades. Yeah, the flag team would be like,
Starting point is 01:38:39 it's like everybody can't be on the fight team. Like we have to have some. They have to go, all right, I just, I did, Mike, I did a, it's hard to do it. You could somebody have to have a grenade that was carrying it out here like this. Yeah, he goes, ooh, like doesn't want to do it. That would be, I think there's not everybody
Starting point is 01:38:56 can be on the flag. Can I use a word for the gay military? Amazing. I think it would be amazing. I think you can use that. I would love to see, I think we're gonna get to a point soon on television where we're gonna have a lot more gay prize fighting.
Starting point is 01:39:13 When I was growing up, they had this group and we'll bleep this word out, but they had this group that would come to the, one of the bars in Baton Rouge, it was called Fist Fights was the group. And they would have gay, it was gay men put it on. And you pay $5 to go watch and you could drink. And it was gay men fighting each other.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Would they have the like dispute about what they were fighting? That's a good thing about a gay fight. It's like what a good point the dispute is before they fight, like we're fighting over. Right, like this is about a men's blouse or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That's weird, that is very funny.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Right before they start the fight, they gotta tell you what it is. It's a brief statement about what it's about. Yeah. Yeah. This is for an oyster dressing recipe. This is for, he still hasn't come out to his parents. Oh yeah. And then like, I bet that's a big.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Well, and gay fighting, that is true. Cause then you have to go over there and pretend you're fucking just a friend all the time. Well, in gay fighting, I think it's not coming out of the closet, it's coming out of the corner. Yeah. I think that's, oh yeah. Ronnie won't come out of the corner, right?
Starting point is 01:40:17 Yeah, yeah. Dude, I feel like that's gotta be a huge thing, huh? Yeah. You're a gay man and you got a husband or like a little pretend, you know, whatever the legalities are where you live, like a suit, you know, a partial husband. And you have to pretend he's your buddy all the time.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Yeah. Why do you always bring your best friend to Christmas? Yeah. Cause he's my best friend. Yeah. And why do you always get him a shaving razor for Christmas? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every year.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Yeah, but what do you think is more jolting to a family? It's like, I'm gay or it's like I'm vegan and I can't eat any of this. Oh. You know, I think the- The stomach gays, they call them. Yeah, what's that? Stomach gays.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Did, was there gay mafia people? I imagine that's a tough thing to do. Not to spoil the Sopranos for you, but there was one thing that was based on in New Jersey, there was a gay, I think he was a high ranking member and they killed him. They killed him for being gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Oh, that's gotta be the worst man. Somebody killed you for being something that you couldn't control being, right? Yeah. Yeah, but I think you just can't go getting that mafia. You know. You can control that. You can control not being in the mafia.
Starting point is 01:41:32 That's true, huh? Italian mob open to gay members as long as they don't parade it in public. Who do they have a publicist? Who do they go to? The Italian mob, they got a spokesperson. Even the Italian mob has started flying the rainbow flag, a star prosecutor in Italy has revealed
Starting point is 01:41:52 the mafia is now open to gay men and even as a drag queen in their midst. I could see that, but that's kind of like a new undercover. Yeah, yeah. The mafia have evolved along with society. Nicola Gratteri, an anti-mafia investigator in Calabria, told the Times of London, gays can be accepted now even as foot soldiers
Starting point is 01:42:12 so long as they don't parade it in public. I mean, it seems crazy that you can put this stuff in the newspaper to be like, so the foot soldiers are illegal, they're doing illegal crimes. Yeah, they're illegal. It's illegal crimes, yeah. The inspector claims to have intercepted passionate letters between a crime boss and a young lieutenant.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Previously mobsters risked being murdered if they were even suspected of being gay. God, that's gotta be crazy, because what if you're young and you're doing good in the mafia, right? You're starting out, you're the little guy, huh? Yeah, and you like some colored ties. Right.
Starting point is 01:42:46 But you don't even know you're gay yet. Yeah. But then you start to realize it. But they're saying even if they think you are. Right. So what if you're straight, but you love flower ties? Right. And you start just, you have a little flash.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Yeah. And you're, you know, because sometimes you see there could be a guy that you're like, I think that guy's gay and then you're... Right, like you're a big... But he's just like a little flamboyant, you know, it's like, you know.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Flamboyant. Flamboyant, like, but a guy could just have that a little bit about him. Like Christian Layton are almost a little. Oh, yeah. Yeah, where you could see. Like he's a little too handsome for whatever he does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, exactly. And then you're like, no, no, I'm not at all. But it's like. And he puts a napkin on his lap like this before he eats, like even out of a takeout.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yeah. They would say that at the meeting when they were gonna kill you. They were like, he puts a napkin on his lap. What more proof do you need? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? I think that's true.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Oh, you think he's straight? Yeah. He puts a napkin on his lap. When they go and take him in the room to kill him, do they even, do you even know what's happening? Or it's just. No, but I think it's fascinating these guys are walk to their meetings
Starting point is 01:43:54 and they're like, this might be it for me. Yeah. And they go anyway. They go like some guys knew they were like the Donny Brasco, that movie, like the real story of that. The one guy who he was very close to after it came out that he was a federal agent and they led a federal agent into the family.
Starting point is 01:44:11 One of the guys responsible was called to a meeting and knew he was getting it. That's why in the movie he leaves his money and his jewelry in a drawer and leaves it half open because he knows he's not coming back. Why is it half, just so someone knows to find it? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Because there's a lot of pride, huh? Because they wouldn't have been able to open that drawer. They would have just moved it and he goes, now leave it open so people see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess there is pride where, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:37 you'd almost go, you could say the fact that he went to this knowing he's gonna die, you almost could be like, then he should live because there's no one more loyal than this guy. That's what I would say. Because he's coming, yeah, you go, we're about to get rid of our biggest asset that truly just got taken.
Starting point is 01:44:53 We all got taken because this guy was a federal agent, but he's willing to walk to his own death. So why would you get rid of that guy? That's a good point. At that point, that guy has a lot of freaking pride and respect. Yeah. Who's it for?
Starting point is 01:45:09 We don't know. Yeah. That's the issue. You got to sort that out at that point. Yeah. Cause he could fight him off. I mean, he could do, why would anybody not fight him? He could fight him.
Starting point is 01:45:17 But I think there's a rule like, you're not supposed to, those meetings, like when you're called to a meeting like that, you're not supposed to come with any, you're not supposed to come armed at all. Yeah. But you just, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of freaking weirdness.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Why don't you bring that gun? He goes, cause they don't, they said you can't. You go, do they frisk you? You go, they don't, they don't frisk you. You're like, yeah. So just carry the gun and he goes down. But you don't understand, it's against the rules to carry the gun and you're like, all right.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Yeah. That's tough to walk in that. And how many times you got to take him to a normal meeting for him to not realize that the bad meeting is coming. You know, the meeting where they're like, so you have to be like, Hey, we want to kill this guy. So let's invite him to two, three meetings to let him know like it's normal.
Starting point is 01:46:01 And then the fourth one where, you know, Vinny comes in with like Popeyes and he's got like, he's like, what's up? Can't wait to have this meeting. He's like, God, I never saw this coming. Look at that. You can burn bad bad. He's singing this song.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah. He's already had his fingers are greasy, snuck at it out a couple of fuckers. Yeah. He feels comfortable going. He's eating the fries before they get there. This guy has no respect for any of it. Dude, anybody who doesn't eat the fries before they get there, I don't know if I fucking respect that meal.
Starting point is 01:46:28 You know? It's a good last meal, Popeyes. Is it? Popeyes chicken. Yeah. You got to go bad on your last meal. You got to just like bloat me up. Yeah. I don't think I would do a. Steak is played out.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Steak is played out too. I'm probably, for me, I might be going fast food. I'm a fast food guy. I think some Chick-fil-A sandwiches maybe. Oh yeah. I think I'm going. Raising canes maybe. I think I'm going what I ate last night. I ate my last meal pretty regularly.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Sonic? Yeah. Says the guy who just showed up back at his starting way. His starting way. I went before, after, back to before. And yeah. But that's a good question, like an electric chair. You're getting the electric chair the next day.
Starting point is 01:47:09 They give you, they do give you a last meal. What is it? Yeah. Yeah. That is a good question, Mike. I'll go ch... I was like, we don't answer it though. I go with some ice cream and I don't know, I don't. I go a lot of ice cream.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Yeah. I don't like that Dutch chocolate. I like regular fucking chocolate. Herchies. The Dutch shit is like, I don't know the Dutch. I don't know how they got this, how they won the thing or whatever, but... I was just there. I did shows in Europe.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Did you do it? Yeah. And we had some, went to Belgium and Brussels and did some chocolate and yeah. It was, you know, sometimes it's like our taste are just, we need it to be processed a little. Like you're like, our, you know, we have the taste. I have the taste of just like poor south.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Like you're like, I can't handle the real stuff. You need it to be a little, like I need to... I love that in New York where it's like... Government to be involved a little bit to my chocolate. Because in New York, they go, that's a big thing now. It's like, is it processed? Is that processed what you're eating? It's like, well, we live in Manhattan.
Starting point is 01:48:11 So it's got, there's no farms here. Yeah. It's gotta be processed. It's like, let's be honest. I'm guessing that this casserole's been cut with baby powder. Yeah. I could be realistic too, or if I can eat in an alphabet city over here. So let's not lie to each other.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Did you like living in New York? Yeah, I did like it. I would go back. I think about sometimes trying to, you know, possibly doing something else. Rogan's always asking me to move down to Austin. But sometimes I feel like there's so many people there already.
Starting point is 01:48:39 This is it, dude, here. I'm a big Nashville fan. Yeah. And... Vanderbilt's doing a little better. Vanderbilt's doing better. We got a big game this week. Vanderbilt's very exciting.
Starting point is 01:48:48 But I'm a big, we have a good comedy scene here. I want Nashville to, a lot of comics to move here. And I know a lot of, but Rogan's doing great. And like, you know, he's got his new club. And Austin does have a great scene. But I think we have a great scene. I'll tell you, I talked about young comics about whether you have to move to New York now.
Starting point is 01:49:08 I don't think you, when I started, it was, we needed to be in New York. I don't think you have to go to New York like you did when we started. I think you can easily move to Nashville. I like young comics. I would like you to move to Nashville. I want to build this, I hope this scene builds up.
Starting point is 01:49:25 But you can be here. Austin's got a great scene. Like, you do not have to go to, I think, New York like you did. I just, I really don't think you do. Cause it's, you're going up every night here. Can you get up every night here though? I'm not, I think if you- Yeah, they get up.
Starting point is 01:49:43 Yeah, they can get up every night here. And there's a lot of great comics here. I agree. There's a lot of good comics. You know, we have comics getting stuff out of here. They had a girl that she's writing for SNL, I believe was out of here, Laura Peake, I believe she opens for Louie.
Starting point is 01:49:58 She opens for me. She opens for you, yeah. She's out, she's from here. She moved to New York though. But you could, I'm not saying you don't ever move or you never, never changes, but I don't think when you start, I don't think you have to. I think you can get seen in other cities now.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Yeah, I agree. I agree. I mean, things about Nashville that are great are it's a small city. It feels, I think it's definitely a good starter city as well. If you're considering moving to somewhere else bigger, but you don't want to make a full jump to somewhere, especially from a smaller place.
Starting point is 01:50:29 This is a great place and it's growing so fast. I mean, in five years, it could be a huge city. It could be a huge city. I mean, it's growing. I mean, things that were just built are being torn down to build bigger things. That's, it's just unbelievable. And you have a lot of friendly people here.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Like, I know my neighbors here. I know people that live on my street. It's like it's, you have a lot of local support. That's, those are some things that are great about it. Yeah, we have the Nashville Comedy Festivals, a giant festival. Yeah. And it's- You're in it.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Carlos Miller, I think is in it. David Spade. Are you in it? Carlos Miller. I don't know. Last year, that's when we shot the special. We shot the Nashville National Festival, yeah. Yeah, we did a special last year then.
Starting point is 01:51:12 But yeah, Spade, like, I mean, but it's a lot of big names in, so comedy's becoming a big thing. Yeah. Yeah, I would like it to become more. I think there'll probably a new club will pop up at some point because of just the size of the population growth.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Yeah, but they have, there's so many other rooms too, but the good thing is Zaini does a very good thing with they do the new material night, which has become, I mean, dude, people are, it's sold out. And that's just a new material night. And there's nights where you're gonna be there, I go there, like, it's, I mean, it's tonight,
Starting point is 01:51:46 you're going tonight. Steve Byrne, Joe Ghetto, Steve Byrne, yeah. So like a lot of, like when you moved here, that was a big deal. Like it was a big deal for this scene to just people recognize that there's a scene here. And when Steve moved here, and then Josh Wolfe was here, I think he'd left,
Starting point is 01:52:03 but it was, you know, they're coming here, people are coming here, you get the club, Zaini's is great. Yep, Zaini's is great. But then they have the other rooms there, I think there's Third Coast, there's, I'm blanking on all the names. I need to go experience some of the other local rooms too.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Oh yeah. Like the way where I'm personally missing out and not going and doing that as much. Yeah, they're great. You get to a level where you've done it so much, like you were saying earlier about Mike, is just having done a lot of that road work, that is, it really was kind of a different time.
Starting point is 01:52:34 I mean, I remember 40 weeks a year, I'd be doing, you know, the three or four day weekends. Yeah, yeah. You know, seven, eight years. Yeah, yeah. But I think that's kind of the route of for being, becoming a great comic now is going to, is a little bit of that route, like you just, you can book yourself
Starting point is 01:52:53 or you can do, there's, it's, I mean, look, I, it's hard cause you always think I wouldn't want to start now. Like, you know, what I think, what comics have to go through. But I already started, so it's hard for me to mentally open my mind to go start over. So the comics coming up now, they're having to really create their own kind of ways. And, but it's like being out, being out on the road.
Starting point is 01:53:16 I mean, like, look at like a Shane Gillis, like, Shane is someone that, when I first saw Shane, it was like, I remember, when I first saw him, I remember just, I was like, man, this dude is like, it's something else. Like this guy has, he just don't see that. Oh yeah. He's like the best fart.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he's like, the fucking most like, he's like, uh-huh. But he's on the road. Does that make any sense saying that about him? Yeah. He's the most pungent. You know, he just like the, it's like the best pitch
Starting point is 01:53:48 that his whole thing's like, It's everything. And he told me about the best fart. Maybe he said he was in private school and he would have, they would have class in church. And sometimes somebody would fart in the pews in an empty church. And it was, he still will stop and laugh
Starting point is 01:54:03 about the sound of it. Is that so? Yeah. It's like, hey, God, what about this? You know? Yeah, yeah. So I still, it makes me laugh hearing about it. So I can only imagine being firsthand
Starting point is 01:54:13 on a, on a, on a fart like that. Yeah. God, just straight off the wood fucking, you know. Should do it at the Ryman. The Ryman has the perfect seating for something like that. They should have a contest over there. I mean, they, yeah, they could hold it. It'd probably diminish, diminish.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Diminish. It's a big one. Might diminish the legacy of the Ryman, but there's a big farted church. Oh, wow. I mean, that was crazy. That almost sounded fake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's insane. What does that mean? What do God thinks when that happens? I think that sounds like a mortal sin to me. Yeah. A big one.
Starting point is 01:55:05 It's not like if it was done on purpose, if it was a little old lady that couldn't help it. Yeah. You know, but that sounds like it was done on purpose. It sounds like the devil pressing that button, that like the club that's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Those kids are video and like those kids went into that church
Starting point is 01:55:22 and they plan that. Yeah. They found an old church and they found a place to go do it. And they sat right there. There's a lot of that. That's what it's saying. It's like that kind of stuff. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:29 And this guy could probably sell something out. Yeah, this guy could sell 200 tickets somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, there's. The atheist. Right. Yeah. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:37 But he rolls out there and he brings a small bench out there and he goes out there and he gasses up on the bench. And we were all in the clubs like suckers for years and we could have just been doing church farts. Yeah. But the longevity of it, that's the thing. That's the longevity, dude. You can get people to come and see you one time.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Yeah. But if you don't give them something. They're not going to come back. That's what like Mike's special, putting that out. And there's, you're going to be able to go watch this special and it's great. And you're going to watch them and it's going to new hour. And then it's going to be an amazing show.
Starting point is 01:56:09 And you're seeing an act. That's the whole thing that I want to build with this is, or not, it's not saying I have anything, but it's just presenting comics and stuff to be like, we're presenting a full act. So when you go watch this and you buy a ticket to a show, then you go see it live. You are seeing an act.
Starting point is 01:56:28 You're seeing a proper show versus you can have videos where these people can sell those tickets. And then you're like, they can't go do a full show. It's hard to learn how to do a full show. That's like sometimes, you know, like America's Got Talent, like when they would do stuff like that, then they'd give them like a full, they'd give them a year at Vegas.
Starting point is 01:56:46 You're like, some of these people are like doing this for six years and they can't go do an hour like a full show. He's like gargling like Jesse's girl or something. You're like, that dude can't do an hour. They can't do it. There's no show. But then you have like the Terry Fader or whatever the guy's name.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Like that guy won that, but like that guy was doing the thing for 20, 30 years. Was he? Yeah, he was doing it for a long time. So then he goes and ends up signing a giant deal. I think he died actually, but he was, yeah. I do think he's dead. I don't, maybe I'm, maybe he's not dead.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Dude, everybody's dead, man. Nine out of 10 people. Everybody's dead, but then also no one's dying. You ever think that there are, our most famous people that have been famous our whole life, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks. These people are just still making the same move. Like are you,
Starting point is 01:57:37 I think it's Scientology is what you're talking about. That's true. That's a good point. I think I would get sucked into something. If I ever got near that world, they probably just, I'd get, you're gonna just be like, what? You would go clear fast. You just don't, I think if they're good talkers,
Starting point is 01:57:50 you're gonna be in. Yeah, I got clear at the airport. That's not, that has nothing to do with Scientology, huh? That's not like a reckoning thing. It's probably the gateway. I think they, It's very similar because you're in the train stations that then in New York, they get you with that little thing.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Like come and put the buzzer on you. See if God wants here, whatever. You know what I'm talking about? They put the little, they get you that book. You want this book? Check the buzzer game or whatever. And they put evil or whatever on there.
Starting point is 01:58:15 And then they invite you to the church. Yeah. Well, I thought that's if you were struggling, you were already struggling, you're in it, then they hook something up to you to see what your vibration is or something. And that's like part of going clear. Like are you, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:58:29 I got the one that's just the, I don't know if it's all a card or whatever, but I got it where they had it all set up right there. Oh really? One time, yeah. And they sit you down and next thing you know, they're inviting you to the over to the church. I remember being in New York, man.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Dude, first time in New York, I remember getting into a taxi with a couple of ladies and they invited me over for some, I guess I didn't know if it was gonna be sex or what it was, right? And so we get up to their apartment and there were lesbian women. And so they start,
Starting point is 01:59:02 and I'm like nervous and everybody was doing a little bit of coke, you know? And I was doing it. And so everybody's doing a little bit of coke and that and they start making out and, you know, just showing tit and all of that. And I'm just like all excited. I don't know if the cops are gonna bust that.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I don't know if this is legal. I don't know what's going, like it felt like a lot at once, you know? My first night in New York City ever in my whole life and you've only heard about New York City, you know? New York City, you know? And so I was like way scared. And so anyway, I kind of start making out with these chicks,
Starting point is 01:59:37 trying my best anyway. And I think cause of the drugs and the nerves, I couldn't get erection. So next thing you know, I'm like, I gotta get out of here. This is just, it feels a little hot in here, right? Cause I didn't know if they were gonna mug me. I just didn't know what was going on. I didn't believe this could really be happening.
Starting point is 01:59:55 And then, so I was like, I gotta grab something to go with me. I saw they had like a big little Santa sack of sex toys, right? So I just grabbed one of the mitches and put it in the back of my shirt. Cause I wouldn't have like a memento or whatever, you know? First time in New York, you know?
Starting point is 02:00:10 Yeah, something to take home, you know? It's like an I love New York t-shirt. It's your I love New York t-shirt. They have those number one foam thingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was kind of like that too. Very similar. Or sex toys. Or a number one foam finger.
Starting point is 02:00:24 So I put it in the back of my pants and then I get over to, then I went stopped in one of those bodegas or something and got me a water and stuff. And I think they just come out with coconut water. So, you know, I was pretty hyped up about that. But I got that in like an orange or something. And when I'm walking out,
Starting point is 02:00:39 I realized that whatever I had in my pants had fallen out. And I look back in there and there's like a kid, like a five or six year old kid, like just swinging around as like wiener, this big kind of purplish wiener. I was like, get me out of this fucking town, bro. I can't live like this. That kid is probably, his life might be different now.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Yeah, from that moment. He's probably making fucking kick talks now. Yeah, yeah. He definitely did not go into his blue collar world that his father wanted him to go to. And it all stems from that story. Bodega wiener kid. That kid was probably up late.
Starting point is 02:01:20 So, I mean, he's asking for it. Yeah, it was a crazy time for a kid to be away. People bring kids out late. Well, a lot of foreigners too. And let's say Middle Easterners, especially like in Irvine, California, if you go to the mall, there's like 1200 toddlers and infants out there at midnight.
Starting point is 02:01:37 Yeah, wow. It's unreal. Yeah. Yeah, there's no bedtime. And they're all dressed to the nines too. It's like a lot of like crust velvet. Wow. A lot of after party children.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Yeah, something like that. I watched something like, oh, like it was like someone at the NCAA, I was watching March Madness and we were sitting, there's a guy with a baby at the game. Yeah, yeah. And you're just like, is there not, you don't have anyone in the family
Starting point is 02:02:06 that's like, I'll watch the baby. Y'all go to the game. Like people just bring, you know, it's a very loud. Yeah. It was the game that starts on 940 Eastern time. So it's like midnight. It's a, I mean, it looks like a less than year old, you know, they're like, well, we had to bring the baby.
Starting point is 02:02:24 You're like, yeah, but you don't, is there not just no one else, you know? They might have even been supporting someone, we think. Yeah, like they were watching someone's baby. No, no, they were like, they had like their brother, their their nephews in the game. But still, you're like, you don't have an aunt that's not going, you know?
Starting point is 02:02:43 Yeah, I mean, back in the old days, we'd be like, don't bring the baby down by the training or whatever, you know? They'd be like the only thing that, you know, it's like, times are just so different now. I don't think women left the house like the first year back in the day though. Now it's like women are like, I want to be out,
Starting point is 02:02:57 you know, I'm going to be working on Thursday. And it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Dude, you do see that where you can see video people like I had a baby two days ago. Yeah. And they're just out. And she's, yeah, they're back at work. They have like the kids like in a little jar,
Starting point is 02:03:11 like one of those like kindergarten potato growing things. And you're like, Jesus, just a couple of fucking toothpicks coming out of it, keeping it healthy. Do you think, yeah, we could eventually get to where people just go take a little longer lunch break and come back with a baby. They just, it's that quick. They just pop it out and then.
Starting point is 02:03:30 Well, I think we're in the last times where you will see people, women actually carrying the child. I think we're so close to the children all being in a center and you go there, you do the sperm and duty egg and then you get that, you go back and you go visit the baby and you see it, but you get it when it's full, when it's ready. Wow, that's crazy. It's a center.
Starting point is 02:03:52 I totally think that, it seems like it almost seems if you look at a woman carrying something like that and so I'm like, well, I think it's beautiful and I think it's the way to do it. I think it's so close to that being. That is crazy. It could be. It could be old fashioned.
Starting point is 02:04:06 Yeah, I think it would be a mistake because I think that's one of the most beautiful things about being a mother and something that you have that nothing can take is the fact that you're carrying a child and the bond that a child and a mother has is something that's, you can't even really describe it. It's something bigger than, it's a miracle, it's all that. But it's like, that is true.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Like you could probably get to a point where you're not having to have the baby. Because I mean, you need to account for like touch and eye contact. Yeah, but when the baby's born, then they do it, but I think. You don't leave it in there. Yeah, you can't leave it in there.
Starting point is 02:04:47 If you leave it in there a couple of weeks late, they're gonna fucking find you or whatever. You're gonna come bring it. They would find you. People are like, hey, your baby's looking around. Hey, you don't pay the bill and they're like, hey, we got your baby, it's four. And you're gonna, and you're like.
Starting point is 02:05:03 It's like swimming in the night. It's a library book, but you gotta, you're like, are you gonna come get it? And you go, yeah, I'll get it. I'll be down there, I'll be down there. I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm on my way. And you're like, God, there you go, have this kid. And you're just gonna have a kid.
Starting point is 02:05:20 And you go down there and there's like a special little procedure in a room where you get the kid that maybe like drag a cough off of it like that. Like, yeah. And you're standing up because it's so old now. And it just like unbells it. And he's like, hello. And you go, you forgot about me.
Starting point is 02:05:34 He goes, I know, I've just been so busy. I've been, well, I was drunk one night and I thought, oh, let's go have a baby. It's a big baby. Yeah. And then you gotta go get it. Dude, that could eat. I just think it's getting to that point.
Starting point is 02:05:48 It could. I've never even thought about it, but I could definitely see it. Yeah, everything's just getting, I mean, it said we're advancing so fast, you know? Yeah, we are. It's getting to the point where the mafia is now a high school kid on TikTok, you know?
Starting point is 02:05:59 It's getting to the point too where it's like people, we just watch things. And then since people, I think imagination is kind of disappearing. Yes. So all people are gonna start to do is watch what they see on their phones. Like you even see like, there's a lot of videos.
Starting point is 02:06:14 A lot of times it's like a black guy like beating up a kid at school or something I feel like. I don't know if you guys get those a lot, but I get a lot of that. Or it's like, you'll see like a kid like beating up a kid at school, right? And then other kids see that, right? And so then it's like, you know that other kids
Starting point is 02:06:29 are gonna start to just do what they saw in the video. So now you have kids just beating up other kids just so they can make a video and read the comments of what people say, right? It's almost like you're just recreating what we see. So like whatever you see, since you don't have an imagination of your own, since it's, I don't know, does it make any sense
Starting point is 02:06:48 what I'm saying? Yeah, imagination is key. But I think the thing is that social media and all this stuff is killing people's imagination because it's sitting there and just being bored is okay. Being bored is okay. That's what sparks your imagination. You're forced to use your imagination
Starting point is 02:07:05 because you don't have any other stimulus. But now we have access to all the stimulus. So there's no need to sit there. When you're bored, you think something is wrong. When it's not wrong, you're supposed to be bored. It's to work that muscle. Like you're not having to work that muscle anymore. Yeah, and it'll disappear over time right there.
Starting point is 02:07:23 Instagram's crypto founder says the app has lost the soul. Well, people are just posting video, like none of this stuff is, like says they're showing the ounce of your life that's fun, like the, you know, that's like, man, you feel depressed. I can feel it with like sometimes like following, you know, we follow comics each other and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:07:45 And you're seeing other comics do stuff and you're like, am I doing nothing due to my nowhere in my career? Cause I'm watching this person's like on TV doing something. And then you, once you realize that every, you got to realize that like no one's doing anything really, even though we think we're all doing anything, you're, it's either someone's really good at showing you
Starting point is 02:08:05 that they're doing, like they're good at showing you that they're doing something, but it's cause, but they're not, no one's doing you. We're all just trying to get by and all trying to like, do what we do. And yeah, everybody's just trying to get by, bring that back up. Well, that's always, if you remember that
Starting point is 02:08:19 at the root of all things, most people are just trying to get by, you know, now their level or idea of what getting by is, and sometimes it gets kind of greedy or, you know, it can get by. Yeah, we all have those emotions. And this taps into the worst part of human beings, I think, because it's, even when you're looking
Starting point is 02:08:34 at your own stuff, it brings up a sense of narcissism, like how many likes do I get? I want more likes. And then you start scrolling and seeing other people's stuff and that, that triggers jealousy and like, I'm not doing as good. And you, and that's why there's like so much depression from this stuff, I think it's, it's this fake connection.
Starting point is 02:08:51 Oh, with kids, for sure. Oh, for kids, for sure. But even for us, like we didn't grow up with this. I mean, it's bad for us. If it's bad for us to have your brain develop on this is crazy, I think. Well, that's a good question. It's like, and this article says,
Starting point is 02:09:06 Instagram's co-founder isn't happy with the direction the platform is taking, claiming it has lost the soul of its original purpose. Knowing in its initial launch in October 2010 by Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger, the app grew massively and has gone from a space for friends and families to share pictures of their day to day on a feed to incorporating TikTok style reels,
Starting point is 02:09:28 a stories feature similar to Snapchat, and the ability to buy and sell products using Instagram shopping. I mean, if you're raising a kid without this, I don't know how you would do it, but it's tough with all the peer pressure and stuff. But if you could raise a kid without this, like to read a book and like,
Starting point is 02:09:45 and to have some kind of like mental grit, you're gonna be raising a superhuman. Because everybody is gonna be on this. So it's like, if you can raise a kid without that, and we used to make fun of the Amish growing up and everything, it's like, they actually got it right, I think, where it's like, just extreme like work. You see what you're seeing how far they are now in life.
Starting point is 02:10:06 And, but they're all like, I mean, the Amish is not good. Like the Amish is like running like they're like, I'm joking with you on the album, I'm not making fun of you. But it's like, yeah, it's funny to be like, I mean, look, they're obviously doing it right. You're like, I mean, they're, I don't know where they're at. I mean, I just bought a space, one of those space heaters from one of them.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Yeah, that's nice. They do sell a lot of those like heaters online. Yeah, they're unbelievably at woodwork and stuff. I remember what, before I moved to New York, I was doing some marble installation. You know, it's like a part time thing. And this is a real beautiful house, wealthy. And we were putting me and another guy putting the marble in
Starting point is 02:10:43 and we were watching these Amish were doing the woodwork and they were just killing it. Well, that's what I noticed. Yes, they're, I noticed in Europe, going to Europe was, they just, everything's so old there in the buildings and it just feels, it's awesome. And it's like, they're, cause everything started, you know, so it's all, it's been there for, since you go to a building,
Starting point is 02:11:07 it's like a foul, it's from 1000. And it's just, the culture like feeds into that. Like, you know, you're, there's like a tradition that's held cause it's so old that these families are like, you got to grant, like you have just such great tradition. And I don't think we have that. Like it's kind of like traditions not, there's not a lot of tradition here.
Starting point is 02:11:33 And I'm not saying it's a bad, like I, it's just a different kind of thing. But you were saying earlier, it's like, it's a reflection. It's a reminder of what a young country we are. Oh, we were so young. We were super young and we react in a lot of ways like a young country, you know. Yeah. And also, I think we became the leader so quick
Starting point is 02:11:51 before in, or hypothetical leader, if some people would say, like just because I like the capitalism, the gross GDP or whatever, like we became a leader so fast that. But we're losing some of that. Well, they're the tradition of stuff. Like the thing that we had was family. Right. And the core family. And that's the, and that's the thing that you can see
Starting point is 02:12:11 that they still, they have so much of it because it's just been, they've lived in the same place for a hundred years. Their family's been there forever. And so our is like, you're seeing, that's what made us, I think that was the reason we were so good. We had that. We had such a big, strong family thing.
Starting point is 02:12:30 And then immigrants would come here and then they would start in their family. And. When you still see it in the immigrant communities, I think like Mexican people, I think there's still like a lot of big tradition in a lot of Latino families. It's family.
Starting point is 02:12:42 We do have that. We had it, but it's like, you gotta have family. Yeah. Family's what? It'll help you keep tradition. Yeah, I think. Keep tradition, keep sure. Yeah, it's like in Hispanic or, you know,
Starting point is 02:12:55 it's like a Muslim, like all these different quote, they really have the Jewish community. They, it's all about their family. It's all about, like you do stuff because your grandparents did it. And you do it, even properly, you know, you go to, about what Jewish people they have, what do they go to?
Starting point is 02:13:14 The temple. Yeah, temple, like they're doing that stuff where it's like we do it because they want to do it and all that. And it's like some of that is being lost. And it's like, that's what you need. Well, in the immigrant community, it's great because it's like they're, you know,
Starting point is 02:13:25 the, come to this country and. They still got that, yeah. For the American dream. So the first generation always suffers because it's like, okay, no, I'm going to grit. I'm going to grind that out. I'm going to have four jobs. And then, you know, as a result,
Starting point is 02:13:37 they always preach education to the next generation. It's like, make sure you're educated. You know, you're going to do better than I did. And then the hope is that they get up and they do better. But in that progression, like two, three generations, some of that tradition does get lost inevitably. So now you're this educated moneymaker and you have all this wealth,
Starting point is 02:13:56 but you've lost the tradition, the work ethic that has got you there. You know, I mean, you're not, you're not passing that down to the next generation. The next generation feels entitled. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I'm born with, I'm born into all this wealth. You start to take it for granted
Starting point is 02:14:11 versus you're born gritty and poor. And then you have to like give that mentality. It's like, I'm going to climb out of this. Well, and I don't know if it's possible to teach that. We had a little boosty on here and we were talking with him about it. And even like, you know, coming up like in an impoverished, he's a black rapper, right?
Starting point is 02:14:26 And I'm coming up like in an impoverished area, Baton Rouge and like really from the streets type of vibe. And he was saying he can instill that to his children. He said there's just, he can't. He just said there's something, you know, and I don't know what type of family, you know, template that they have for him, but he was saying, man, it's hard to just get that next
Starting point is 02:14:46 generation to go have the same mindset that you had. I think it's also maybe just the cycle of how things work. It's like, you know, at a certain point, somebody gets so wealthy and then the son is, the dad isn't there to be a part of the son's life. The son goes kind of crazy and inherits the wealth and loses it all somehow. And it all goes back into the pool, you know?
Starting point is 02:15:07 I don't know if that's true, but everything kind of has a cycle in a way. But as a parent, I think that if you have wealth and you start raising a child, you have to be conscious of the fact that you're raising this child in wealth. And everybody has this thing where it's like, I want him to have,
Starting point is 02:15:22 I don't want him to have the struggles that I had. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, the struggles made you who you are. So it's important that even if you have wealth, that you don't make it too easy and that they encounter some resistance because resistance, that's what makes you strong. Yeah, draw a dick on his back
Starting point is 02:15:36 to see if he can hide it from mom, you know? Yeah. We hide my daughter's breakfast every morning. Fuck yeah. Make her find it. Sometimes she doesn't eat. Happy Easter. Happy Easter.
Starting point is 02:15:46 That's it. And they go, yeah, that's it. Every morning's Easter. Yeah, I didn't give her $400. So you have a balance that you don't know you're doing it right. You go, yeah, she has like 50 grand right now. It's because I've been doing it all more
Starting point is 02:16:01 ever since she was a baby. But you go, but that's rich, she'll be fine, right? It'll be great. She can't find breakfast. She orders it out on your phone. Yeah. Delivery. Well.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Wealth on a shelf. Yeah, I think you have to have that. You gotta have like an obsession like, or especially if they have some, you can find something to be like, go find an obsession and then go try to become good in that field or whatever it is. Cause then you at least can have the grind of like,
Starting point is 02:16:28 you gotta start from the bottom some in something, especially for some of that would come from, that's that has like a ton of money or something. You're like, well, go, you know, go learn how to become successful in that field where like the parent can't help you. Yeah, right. It's like then because then if you let the kid
Starting point is 02:16:49 just keep quitting and go, well, they're not gonna let me do that. He goes, all right, well, the dad can't force into the top. So you're like, all right, well then go try this thing over here, you know, so you gotta be like, no, no, no, no, if you love that, then go build up to that world. And there's that thing where it's like,
Starting point is 02:17:02 well, I don't love it anymore and I don't want to do what I don't love. It's like, no, you have to, you have to create the ability to overcome adversity. That's the big thing. You know, you have to, overcoming adversity is huge. And if you have too many options, if you have the option to quit everything,
Starting point is 02:17:17 then you're not gonna be able to, you know, you have to weather that initial adversity and it hurts, you know, it hurts to like to fail and to lose. So, you know, you have to be able to overcome that. That's interesting, man. I bet it would be a lot tougher to be a parent of a, in some ways.
Starting point is 02:17:33 I mean, that's insane for me to really say that, but I bet in some ways it's tough. It's also tough to be a parent if you're wealthy and have wealthy children. Yeah, that's a real struggle. That's a real struggle because your instinct is to make things easier and it's wrong.
Starting point is 02:17:45 There's a guy, David Krantz, he's, I think it's his name Krantz, can you look him up? He is a therapist that just works with wealth and families and how it, because it's a big problem apparently in those families. I used to teach kids with behavioral and emotional problems. Oh, healthy.
Starting point is 02:18:02 BDLD? Yeah. Hell yeah. Behavioral disabled, learning disabled? Yeah. Behavioral, behavioral and learning. Praise God, baby. And I taught in a city school,
Starting point is 02:18:13 I taught in a private kids group thrown out of Philadelphia schools, which was a residential school. So that was pretty wild because we'd have to like physically restrain the kids if they would get out of hand. And then I taught in a city public school and then a working class district and then a wealthy.
Starting point is 02:18:30 And the wealthy one was really challenging because the parents were lawyers and doctors and all this stuff. And they didn't have like the common sense to kind of a lot of them, a lot of them did, but some of them didn't have the common sense. And one guy was a psychologist and his kid was out of control.
Starting point is 02:18:48 And it's like he refused just to discipline him. Like with just standard discipline tactics and the kid was out of control. And he like had other psychologists on the phone and we had this, I was sitting around an IEP meeting which is what you have with these kids and all these different professionals. Counselor, I was the teacher,
Starting point is 02:19:06 you'd have the assistant principal, you had therapists and stuff in there. And it was just like the guy was like, I'm like, there's a million dollars worth of salaries in here right now trying to figure out like what this kid needs is just the most basic discipline. And he refused to, you know, he thought he could intellectualize his way out of it.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Oh, we can think our way out of this. Like, it's like, no, no, no, just discipline him. But discipline him, be like, look, I love you. You tell him why you're disciplined him. It's like, I love you. This is why this is happening. Because in the future, you know, you're going to be better from it.
Starting point is 02:19:38 What did the kid have anything? Oh, I mean, he's diagnosed with ADHD and all this stuff by, but he was just, the kid was just breaking rules and doing it because he could get away with it. And instead of going, hey dude, you can't do that anymore. This is what's going to happen. Instead of just being very direct with him, he's like, well, is there some kind of a behavioral plan
Starting point is 02:19:57 that we can get into play? It's like, yeah, just when he does something wrong, you got a discipline. Yeah, honestly, it'd be like, if you want to give this kid a chance, you would just be like, you got to hit him or something. Like, you know, how close were you to say that? No, but I, because I don't think,
Starting point is 02:20:11 I don't think like, you got to say that sometimes. Yeah, hitting is like, if you do things the right way, I'd say 98% of the time. I mean, you're going to get 2% knuckleheads where you might have to like have some kind of physical. But if you're raising the kid correctly from the beginning, yeah, you never will. There's a good chance that you're,
Starting point is 02:20:29 and you're just implementing like consistent discipline. You won't have to do that. Damn, man. Can you, do you ever think about being excited about hitting, spanking your kids in the future? You don't have any children. No, I don't have kids. You ever think about it?
Starting point is 02:20:41 How are you going to do it? Where are you going to do it? He's going to be sold, so yeah. He'll be like, you're dead. He'll be like, you're dead. He'll turn on me. You're dead. He was 70 when I was born, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:49 Wow. He'll be like, yeah, you could be my dad. You can have some of his old shirts. Yes. I don't have any. His fucking piece of shit other children took them all. We're good, but we could probably find them. But we'll get a hold of some.
Starting point is 02:20:59 You have 20, I mean, we have a little time before we get to that point, but yeah. So we're eventually, we're finding the shirts. Do you, was it hard to edit the special when you guys were kind of putting it together? Was that, did you guys have to pick and choose some stuff? Was everything pretty clear? What did it look like?
Starting point is 02:21:13 Yeah, he did a lot of stuff. He did everything. I did everything that I could do. I mean, everything that you could, yeah. I could think of, cause I want it all. I figure, you know, you know, shoot long and then you could just edit it, you know. But yeah, I went through editing for a long time.
Starting point is 02:21:28 So yeah, I did. Was real meticulous about editing it. And did you help with that Nate or what does that look like? Yeah, I was in on it. I mean, he did it and then Ben Rosenfeld. Ben Rosenfeld, who's a friend of mine and comedian. And he helped me with it. He helped me with a couple of my albums too.
Starting point is 02:21:44 So this, he brought an eye into it and also just we sat down and just went. It's good to have someone, you know, when you have to edit your own stuff, it's very hard. Like it's like, you get tired of watching it. It's good to have, like I've always done every special that I've done. I've sent it to another com, Justin Smith.
Starting point is 02:22:03 I just sent it to him, Brian Bates. I sent it to like the Tennessee, all my Netflix. I would send it to someone else. Cause you're like, I can't, you know, someone that knows your act. Cause it's like, it's just so hard to sit there and you're too in. Yeah. After a while, you don't know if you're being objective.
Starting point is 02:22:21 You know, after watching it so many times, like, is this even good anymore? I don't even know what this is. So it's like somebody's like, no, no, you know, they can be objective a little bit. And you almost start to hate it sometimes, a little bit too much. Cause you just watch it so much.
Starting point is 02:22:35 You don't feel like it doesn't have the same punch. One day you watch it and your attitude isn't the best or you're in a weird mood. And I'll attach that to things quick sometimes. Yeah, it's very hard to do it. And then, but yeah, we went through the whole process. I mean, I did it with a partner with 800 pound gorilla too. And so they were part of this.
Starting point is 02:22:54 And so they got a great, great team. And so then they were sending it over and just going back and forth. And he's going through the editing a lot. I mean, a lot of that was, I'm letting him decide, you know, like I would go look at it then, but it's like, you know, you can feel what he's gonna know more than me and what to take out and what, you know,
Starting point is 02:23:16 but we took out, but the way we started at different, like we did some stuff that was, you know, it's like the beginning of it, I wanted to get right into it. So we have a little kind of an opening thing, but it's all about trying to get into the special quick, hitting jokes, have a joke that's just boom, right when you start, it's like hitting it quick. And then it's, I want to say 50 minutes, 53.
Starting point is 02:23:40 53. 53 minutes. So it's under an hour, like. Under an hour. Nice. I think is a better way to, yeah, I think it's a better way to go now. Yeah, I don't know why people's attention spans
Starting point is 02:23:49 have to be an hour and especially you guys are doing it that way. You could still then also take clips and put them out and put them together. Yeah, there's a lot of material that we can pump out. It's cool, man. And this your first special, Mike? No.
Starting point is 02:24:02 It's my first hour. First hour. Yeah. That's cool. I did two albums before this, but I didn't shoot them. Yeah. A video. So it's brand new.
Starting point is 02:24:10 I mean, all that material even then is, you know, stuff that people will probably want to see as well or they'll go back to it. Yeah. His album did really, really good. Yeah. Yeah. The album before this.
Starting point is 02:24:21 Yeah. Yeah. The worst kind of thoughtful did well. And uh, and yeah. Was that 800 pound of gorilla too? No, that was, I did that independent. Nice. Good for you.
Starting point is 02:24:31 Yeah. But I'm really proud of this and the process has been great and obviously I appreciate Nate like bringing me in and directing and all this stuff. So it's, um, I'm really proud of it. I've, it's been a long road with this cause we've, I've been working on this, not just getting it together to shoot it,
Starting point is 02:24:49 but also the editing and all the other stuff. It's been a long time. 800 pound has been great. Yeah. So I appreciate them, but I'm really proud of it. Yeah. What's a big deal for me to put something out that Mike allowed me to be a part of it
Starting point is 02:25:02 cause Mike's that great of a comic. And so, and then it was just such a long process cause then I had my special come out and then it was like, so we had, it was like, had to be pushed a little bit cause it was like mine was coming and we're trying to get, cause my sense is going on my YouTube just, if my, you know, if my YouTube bumps up after my special, then it's just more better.
Starting point is 02:25:22 It's better for him and, uh, and for these other specials. And so yeah, it was a long process to do it. But yeah, it'll be March 24th. And what kind of stuff do we kind of get to know? Cause I remember when I was sitting there watching, I didn't know Mike a ton. I knew from like, um, uh, big J kind of, and just from some different comedy circles.
Starting point is 02:25:44 Um, but yeah, you start to get just like this sense of who Mike is. Do you feel that that's kind of what people will pull from it? Yeah. I mean, some people are telling jokes. You don't get to know them, you know? Yeah. Well, Mike tells jokes, but I mean, you, but you also, you're listening to him now that you see a special.
Starting point is 02:26:03 It's like, he's very similar in the fact that like, it's not far off. It's, uh, you know, I was Joe, Mike's, you know, it's, it's very serious. It's, it's, it's no, you know, you're wasting time. You go, uh, what are we even doing here? That's, I think Mike says to his girlfriend every, he goes, well, what are we even doing? Then like, there's a lot of, but so Mike's got a very, uh,
Starting point is 02:26:26 it's, it's his own, it's his own pattern. Yes. It's his own pattern. And it, it's, it's, it's a guy that really is, uh, you know, came up, came up through the New York system and, and you know, like just a lot of jokes, a lot of like, just a lot of jokes and, uh, well-crafted jokes and, uh, tried and true jokes. And I'm definitely a product of the New York system though. So it was joke heavy, but I, I, you know, I like the,
Starting point is 02:26:57 I like telling jokes and I like it to be personal, you know? And, um, also I love sarcasm. So I, I love that. So I, I tell people up front, like now when I'm performing, I'm like, look, cause this is a lot of sarcasm, you know, get on board with it. You'll have a much better time if you get on board with some of the sarcasm and people buy in and it's great. And then it's, it's joke heavy and personal on top of that.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Tell me your, like what's the, you know, it's your job and your passion that you tell people now. Oh, what I do is I tell, I get up, I tell a couple of jokes. Like I'm a standup comedian. It's my job. My passion is coming to towns like this to talk to low-income whites about vaccinations. I love hashing it out with the low-income whites. Not always get such a big pop cause I start out with like three,
Starting point is 02:27:46 like three jokes. I'll laugh and it's like, ah, this is good. It's like, let me tell you about my passion. The low-income whites. Love it. Talk about vaccinations. This goes every time. And it's so fun to hear crowds. They, they get such a pop, dude. Well, they probably realized then what's going on. They realize who Mike is.
Starting point is 02:28:08 They realize exactly what they're going to be in store for him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like you're like, oh, this dude's like, it's great. Like it's acknowledging the absurdity of it. Yeah. That's a great way. It just seems like there's home people low-income whites. I love it. It's not much funnier than that. Oh, yeah. But I loved, I loved going here.
Starting point is 02:28:27 I would smile when I heard it, man. It fucking made me just, I felt fucking great. I'm like, I'm a coastal elite. I've got, I'm going to teach you. I'm going to teach you. I think that's great. Man, talking to people about vaccinations, baby. That's too, that's just such a funny, you're walking every room you go into. Just talk to people about vaccinations.
Starting point is 02:28:47 Well, dude, I remember when I did take my special, they had, they made everybody like two days before they made everybody show up with vaccination stuff. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Because I talked to you, I remember we talked about it. Netflix made people do that. It was a fucking nightmare. Yeah. And it was like, I remember you hit me up and you were, because you don't know what to do and you're,
Starting point is 02:29:07 you get stuck in situations like that. And it's, and it's, that was like such a weird time. It was 48 hours before people had already bought all their tickets and every time. I wish I had told them to go fuck themselves kind of. Yeah. But I mean, it's, look, it's, it's, it's a. I didn't know, you know. Well, yeah, it's, you know, you don't want it to rail, but it's a tough position to be in because you don't want it to rail the whole.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Yeah. Your, your head is in another place. And his people are coming. Well, his entire crowd is not vaccinated. It was eight people showed up. And the best part was, I said, thank you to everybody who came out. Thank you to everybody who made fake, fake vax cars and came out tonight. And the place went fucking great. That's what then that's, and that's almost like the thing that you wanted people to,
Starting point is 02:29:50 you know, it's like, it's like that underlining just go, you know what to do. Like it was, you got put in this position that they shouldn't have put you in. And they did it last second. And it was like, what are you going to go do? You're about to take this special, all this stuff is being spent for all this kind of, like you're really got yourself stuck in a situation. And let me tell you the fact that you were, you almost didn't want to do it. Cause you, I mean, you told me, cause you literally told me when this happened.
Starting point is 02:30:19 And it was the fact that you were like, yo, I'll just cancel the special. And it was like, look, we got to, you would less logically think through this. And it's like the thing that ended up, you know, happened where people are like, if you're not vaccinated, it's like, then who gave a fake vax car? You're like, just, we all are having to figure out this kind of thing. So I thought we should have just navigated that time period better. It was a hard time to navigate the whole thing. I think, yeah, you navigate it.
Starting point is 02:30:45 It's tough though. You did it for everybody. Yeah. I mean, just for everybody, the whole, you know, the whole way it's like, I never wanted, I had to fix stuff cause I never wanted to, like, I'm not telling someone to do something like, you know, that's, but they would do that, but theaters would do that with, uh, they would throw it on us. They would say the artist wants the people to be vaccinated.
Starting point is 02:31:07 And like, I, so I had a few places that I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say I'm asking people to be vaccinated. Like you want people to be like you, the city might want to, or the venue might want to, but they would word it cause no one wanted to be the bad guy. The venue didn't want to be the bad guy. So they, but the venue wanted it, but they would just throw it on the artists. So they'd be like, Theo is saying everybody needs to be, you know, Theo ain't telling people to do that.
Starting point is 02:31:34 You're telling people, but you're wording it like it's Theo. Yeah. And they would do it like that. I would have, I had a couple of places that I was like, you know, they got a word that like, I'm not saying anything. I'm not, right. Don't put it on me. You're, you're, you're the one that's suggesting, like, so if anybody's
Starting point is 02:31:51 going to suggest it, it is like, it is what it is. Like people are still coming out, you know, but it is what it is. But put that on, you say it properly. Don't try to throw it because they could just do that. But it is like, if you want to come to my show, you need to be circumcised. Male or female. Yeah. And I think that's a bit.
Starting point is 02:32:10 They go, we go, I show them, you have to show me proof that you have no vaccinations. And I'm talking down to flu shot. And I go, I need to make sure, but I'm the older now. The new Italian is you need to be, uh, you need to have no Vax blood in you. So that's going to be the new mafia. That's the new mafia is you got to be, I want, if like, I want you to be nervous about the measles. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:33 You better be scared about him. Mumps. Is that a, was that one? Mumps is one. Mumps is. I want to be standing on the edge of your bloodstream with a paddle, just like, like I'm working for the city, you know, like I want to be like, I get sentenced to work over there.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Yeah. You're, you're proud to go. Yeah. I want you to have local people who are sentenced by the courts to work. You have a group of people that are unvaxxed in your, your mafia gang and you're like, what could kill you? And you're like chicken pox, common cold flu. It will be wiped out, but it's like, but there is also something.
Starting point is 02:33:08 Yellow fever, anything from Oregon trail. See, you know, the fucking modem game. Um, yeah, what else? That's it guys. I think we did a lot, huh? I think we did a lot. I think we've had a nice time. My congratulations, man.
Starting point is 02:33:21 Thank you. Thank you so much for having me on. I appreciate it. Oh, yeah, you bet. And Nate, thank you. Uh, and, uh, yeah, I'm excited to see, um, what you guys put together, man. I'm excited to see it now, um, online and, you know, after I've seen it in person. And, um, yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:38 And then will you be going on tour right after you have a plan kind of for it, Mike? Or now I'm just trying to, uh, get the word out as much as possible and just any, you know, the way I function is like any road dates that come. I just take, you know, if it's, you know, yeah, you got, but you got dates lined up and a date, yeah, I don't know when this comes out, but I'll be in Madison, Wisconsin and, uh, uh, um, comedy on state. Oh yeah. Love the great club.
Starting point is 02:34:02 And then Tampa side splitters at the end of the month. Oh yeah. Tampa is wild, dude. Yeah. This would be like a special. This podcast come on next year, this will be right after your specials out. So it just came out. Okay.
Starting point is 02:34:15 So is it hard if I just plug my social media? Yeah, for sure. It's at comic Mike V on all social media platforms, at comic Mike V repetition. I'm so low income whites. And, um, and also, uh, I have a podcast called Mike Becky on investigates. It's a fake investigations show. And it's, uh, also I talk down to the listeners. Yeah, condescend them.
Starting point is 02:34:38 So that's, it's fun. It's a new mafia. So people want to hear those hands. They can go to your podcast and listen to your whole podcast is just loud. Like my podcast is called, take it out and post. It's Mike, Becky on investigates. Awesome. Mike and Nate.
Starting point is 02:34:58 Thank you guys for hanging out, buddy. You're the best. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind. I found, I can feel it in my bones, but it's going to take.

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