This Past Weekend - E477 Tony Robbins

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

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On the globe on earth He's a philanthropist. He's an entrepreneur. He's a best-selling author. There's nothing really that he hasn't done. He is an inspiration to many. He's worked with some of the most intriguing and successful people on earth as an advisor to them. I feel lucky to get to sit down with him and spend some time. Today's guest is Mr. Tony Robbins. I'm gonna sing it. I'm gonna sing it. Yeah man, thanks so much, dude. Really, really cool.

Hey, to be with you. Yeah, you too, man. And so many of my friends or fans of yours and that's how I became the fan who got to listen to you and left my tail off here. Thanks. Really bring in different color to things, it's fantastic. Yeah, I don't know what we're doing a lot of times. That's what you do your best, right?

Yeah, I think it is. I mean, just close. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, I guess it is, man. Yeah, that's true, actually. It's weird how much you can kind of plan and then, but if you can show with a level of not unplanned kind of, like spontaneous is always much more funny

and then much more powerful, I think. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess you, because you do so many things, I mean, even after just seeing and hearing a lot about you online and just over the years, you do so many things to try and fine tune yourself, right? Would you, you got a safe way to say that?

Yeah, I know, and I have certain fundamentals that I want to cover, but every time you enter an audience and you got 15,000 people, you know, and you got to hold them for 12 hours a day for five or six days when they wouldn't usually sit for, you know, a 30 minute video or three hour movie. So you got to really be able to adapt and feel what's there, just like you and adapt. And it's got to be funny. I mean, if all you do is get up and talk for 12 hours, you want to kill yourself, right? So you gotta make people laugh, you gotta move them, you gotta produce all those things,

because time is so relative, like how long's the long time? Some people think, well, you know, thousand years, some people think two minutes, right? So a long time is you're not enjoying yourself. You know, a minute feels like eternity when you're in it. But if you're fully engaged and you're enjoying everything, like 12 hours goes like that. So it's fun to see the impact you can have with people when you're fully engaged and you're enjoying everything, like 12 hours goes like that. So it's fun to see the impact you can have with people

when you're willing to adapt. It was the same every time also. I'd be bored out of my mind just like that. It's your live event, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, that's, I mean, it's definitely remarkable. Yeah, I think I was thinking about like tuning, like more just like in your regular life

and like you're being ready for the day, like what is that tuning like for you? Because that's a constant, like, that's always evolving. Like every couple of months now we hear about some new thing or some new method or somebody's, you know, people are hiding underground for two hours or whatever, people are, you know, there's people like who, you know,

won't let their shadow outside for a month and it's supposed to help them process lamp for whatever. You know, so there's so many things. And what are some things that you do or that really make you feel like that didn't feel like snake oil kind of, you know? Yeah, well, you know, some things I do, I've been doing for like 20 years.

Like, you know, I start every day in a cold plunge. Now it's very popular, you know, ice bath and so forth. But I don't, I've never, day I look forward to it, Theo. I don't wake up and go, I can't wait to freeze my ass off. But to me, it's a discipline. It's like training my mind, besides the physical benefit. You know, it doesn't feel good when you go in, but you feel amazing coming out.

Yeah. Because your entire body gets flooded, right? Oh, yeah. Your blood moves. But going in, it's like, I don't negotiate with myself. I don't go, let me see if I'm ready. It's like, I've trained my brain. I said, go, we go. And my home in San Valley, I walk through negotiate with myself. I don't go, let me see if I'm ready. It's like, I've trained my brain. I say, go, we go.

And my home in San Valley, I walk through the snow and get in the river. Yeah. And that's like, you know, 41 degrees. And I mean, it's intense, but when you train your brain that when I say, go, go, no negotiation, then that shows up in every other party of life. So I do that.

I mean, I work out every day, obviously. I do a 10 minute process. It's not really a meditation, because I'm not good at not thinking. And I don't know many people are that have no thoughts. But I do a way to kind of condition my nervous system on my mind. It's really simple. I do these three pieces, three minutes each.

It's only 10 minutes. So if I said 20 minutes, people say I don't have time. But even if I'm 10 minutes for your life, you don't have a life right? So I just do three minutes of one of the emotions that mess people up in the relationship or their business. It's usually anger or fear. Some derivative of those two.

So the antidote to those is gratitude. You can't be angry and grateful simultaneously. You can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously. So I train my nervous system by starting every morning. I do this process to change my body. It's a breathing process. And then I think of one at a time, a minute each, I see and feel something in my body as a breathing process. And then I think of one of the time I'm in it each, I see and feel something in my life that I'm really grateful for.

I do little things and big things so you don't have to have a giant thing to be grateful. Yeah. And it's real. It's not like I'm seeing it over there. It's like I'm experiencing it. So it changes your biochemistry. So when you say experience and not to interrupt you. Yeah, no, no interrupt is what you want. But no, it's what, because I'll forget what the question is. That's the only reason it's like not interrupting. That's what you want. But no, I just want, because I'll forget what the question is. That's the only reason it's like, it's like a desperation. You're over it.

Yeah, so in that moment, because I know we're talking about, I'll make a gratitude list, right? But sometimes it's like, I'm just writing the things down and there's no real connection inside. And that won't do much. And I know it won't do,

I know this thing in help, at least I'm doing the practice. But I know it's not gonna have like a, I can tell even right now, it's not gonna help me that much. So what are you saying that I can do? I'm saying I close my eyes and you know, sometimes if I said, think of a time when you wrote a roller coaster

and you remembered over there, like see it over there, that's called disassociated. But if I get you to imagine being in the front seat and you might tell me, oh, it was pretty interesting. But if I get you back to actually the moment when you're coming over the edge, and then you see even right now, you see the, oh, it was pretty interesting. And if I get you back to actually the moment when you're coming over the edge, and then you're even right now, you see it all, you know? So that's what I do with the gratitude.

I get in my body as if I was then, see it and feel and experience it. And that creates a biochemical change in your body as opposed to a thought. A thought's not enough, right? Yeah, yeah. And you do three of those, and then I have three minutes of kind of a cleansing

of my body that I do mentally, and I kind of a prayer for others. And then I do three minutes of kind of a cleansing of my body that I do mentally and I kind of a prayer for others and then I do three minutes of what I call, you know, three to thrive. I think if three things I want to make happen outcomes results and I don't sit there and beg for them or pray for them. I see them as done I feel them. I celebrate them as done because when you're subconscious mind leaves it's done it makes it happen So it's kind of programming it and the whole thing only takes 10 minutes. If anybody wants to go to toyrabbons.com forward slash priming, there's no cost for it and shows you how to do it. But we do it with 20,000 people in a stadium.

And the energy that you have at the end, it's amazing. Because otherwise you wake up and what do you have? The first thing is your phone. And your phone has a mixture of things. If you have, you do a lot of responsibilities in companies and these are all things. Oh, it's like, you're not in control of your life. So I set my life first. I prime.

What I mean by priming is priming as a psychological principle. A lot of times when people feel think something, they think, oh, that's my thought. But it's been primed by something in the environment. I gave you an interesting study. They did this at Harvard. They took men and women, trained them as actors.

They went out and did this very simple thing. They would go out to people and have a cup of coffee, and they were herst doing it the exact way every time. And they'd walk up to you, and they're doing it. They're doing it. Yeah, they're doing it. And the mall or someplace else, they'd see you sitting there and go, excuse me, or you ever see campus and they're holding the coffee.

And they could, could you hold this for a second? They don't ask, they put in your hand, they look down, so 90% people take it. And they reach their pocket, did something with their look down, so 90% people take it. And the region of pocket did something with their phone. Thanks so much. That's it. Mark away. Well, half those people they did that with had hot coffee.

The other half had cold ice coffee. So then 15 minutes later, approximately 15 to 20 minutes later, somebody comes by and they have this little sheet, you know, clipboard, and they say, I've got $20. If you'll give me 60 seconds of your time, would you take 20 seconds to read this little paragraph of a story? And then tell me, afterwards, I have two questions. They read this story and they say, okay,

tell me, what was this person like? How would you describe this character? Well, the person that, the coffee person, you mean? No, they don't remember that. Oh, this story, it's been going on this story. Now it's a new person. 20 bucks, most people do it. 20 bucks for a minute, okay, I'll do it. Some people say, they don't remember that first one. Oh, this story's been going on. No, it's a new person. Okay. 20 bucks, most people do it. 20 bucks for a minute.

Okay, I'll do that. Some people say, I don't need the 20 bucks. I'll just answer your question. Oh, yeah. I mean, this little story, same story for everybody. Yeah. And then they asked them afterwards, how would you describe the main character?

The people that got hot coffee, 81% of them say, the person is warm and generous. When they give them the iced coffee, they don't even know it affected them. 80% of the difference is variable. We'll say the person is cold or uncarrying. Same story. That's absolutely true.

Oh my God. You can do this with creativity. If I talk to an audience, they'll say make the sound of what you think of what you think of Microsoft and you get, make the sound of Apple. That's a trillion dollar difference in people's response. So they've done creativity tests. Well, perhaps people watch a 30 second Apple

commercial or just look at the Apple logo and then look at an IBM commercial or an IBM logo. 20% higher score on a creativity test they take right after that for those who just look at the Apple commercial. That's it. So we can be influenced so powerfully. So I decide, I wanna advertise on my own mind. I'm not gonna have somebody else take control. And so I prime myself every day. I prime my brain so it's in a grateful state. It's an anticipatory state.

It's a moving state. Because otherwise, you get whatever you feel like. And I don't know about you. The other days I wake up, I don't know what city I'm in. Oh, yes, it's gone. And I forgot three hour of sleep under during time zone. So if I didn't reset, then it'd be fake. I'd be getting up trying to talk to people.

And I'm not real. You can't move people if you're not moved. You can't touch people if you're not touched. You can't think people laugh if it doesn't make you laugh, right? You know? That's really true. So I try to make sure I'm in that place every single day. And then when you do it every day, it trains your nervous system to look for things to be

grateful for. Then your mind starts to become conditioned because most people... Is that true? That's absolutely true. If you don't, there just habits, right? So if you don't use your mind, your mind will use you. It's like technology, right? Wow.

If you use technology, you're amazing things. Or you can like your technology start using you where your whole life is controlled by. Oh, yeah, you can be damn little on your phone even. Yeah, for sure. And that's for sure. You could be doing anything. God, it's upsetting. I mean, I've been obviously, I have blockers on my phone now because obviously I can't, you know, whatever. But, but that's amazing. No, that's something I don't that we don't think about a lot is

like instead of just looking at the world, why don't you clean the weapon that you're looking at the world with, you know? You got, you got, people, think of it this way, Theo, people don't experience life. The experience of life they focus on. Right. So right now, if you're happy, you are deleting all the things you can be pissed off about, or frustrated, worried about in the world. If you're unhappy, you're deleting all the things

that are great in your life. Wow. And our brains delete and they distort and they generalize. So if you don't direct it, you get whatever shows up. What's wrong is always available. What's wrong in the world is always available. What's right is also available. It's just which one you pick. And it isn't about positive thinking. Because I've never been into positive thinking. People think that's what I do. It's not. I believe in intelligence. And so when you're in a lousy state of mind, you

treat people poorly. You don't perform at the highest level. You're not happy. When you're in a great state of mind, treat people better, perform at a different place. And it's one of the reasons the humor is so valuable. It changes people's state. And all of a sudden they're in a different place. They respond in a different place when they're laughing than when they're pissed off. So why not train yourself to do that? You've trained yourself to find what's entertaining or funny and just about anything.

It's what makes you as good as you are in that area. You have developed patterns of how to do it. You mean I'm conscious of them all? Yeah, I don't think I was conscious patterns, but I think sometimes the best part is when my brain will make me laugh and I didn't even have anything to do. You know, like, because after a while, I'm conscious.

Yeah, you're like, and you're like, oh, sometimes I'll just bust out laughing. I'll be like, thank you so much. Like my brain just like does like a little joke from your sound. And this goes right into something I was thinking about since it's the new year, you know, and happy new year to you. And yeah, because people so often say

New Year's resolution are like, but that's kind of like a one and done. It feels almost outdated, that idea. But I guess in your kind of answer, I guess almost outdated, that idea. But how do you, I guess in your use kind of answer, I guess like how we change our perspective. So like, so we change our attitude, you know, that's really what you need to have a new experience. Yeah, you, there's three decisions

you're making every moment in your life. Your audience can test this out. The first one is what are you gonna focus on? Now when I say make these decisions to you, I don't mean you're making them all consciously, right? So whatever you focus on, that's what you feel. If you're supposed to meet your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, whoever at seven o'clock,

you get there at seven, they're not there. Some people are pissed off, some people are worried. It's the same event. If it's 730 and they're not there, they've not called, they not text. Now what are you feeling? Some people are, I'm really pissed off. I'm really worried.

I'm really single. You know, I'm really single. I'm, it's 830, I haven't showed up. I'm full, I didn't wait for the bastard. But the point is whether you're angry or whether you're worried had nothing to do with the event. It's the habits of your mind. The person who's worried thinks, well, maybe you're going to car accident. Persons pissed off. They did it again. So the first decision you make is what are you going to focus on? And most people have patterns of focus. Yeah, yeah

So there's three are give you the audience can test out do you tend to focus more on what you have or what's missing What's missing? Yeah, do you tend to focus more on what you can control or what you can't control? Probably what I can't control because but it's out of desperation because I feel like I have to control everything Well, that's not a bad thing. You can't control everything right. It's an illusion, but you get influenced so much. You can control everything in you. Okay. And then the third one, do you tend to focus more on the past, the present or future?

The past. Yeah. So those three patterns, if you do all three of them, if you constantly look at what's missing, it's hard to ever stay fulfilled or happy. Yeah. So you have to always do something to try to make yourself happy because you're always noticing what's missing.

It's just where your focus goes. There's always something missing. There's always something that's not missing. There's always something beautiful. You're focusing what you have. You're gonna be more fulfilled. Second one, if you focus what you can control what you do, it's why you have your own business.

That's why who you are. But a lot of people focus on what they can't control. It's overwhelming. It's stressed out. They think of all those things. So if you constantly focus on what's missing, you can't control and the past, which you can't control. It's overwhelming. They're stressed out. They think of all those things. So if you constantly focus on what's missing, you can't control and the past, which you can't change, what that makes is either angry or sad

or frustrated or depressed. I've, you see people all the time that come to me, you know, groups, I just did this thing for Stanford where they, two years ago and everybody's in COVID, they came in because two of their professors came to my seminar for five days, both were, you know, clinically depressed. They came back with no depression symptoms.

They said, how do you do this? I mean, do you have any data? I said, well, I got millions of people that did my program. You know, you're going to like scientific data. I said, well, you want to do a test? They said, sure. I said, what do you want to test on?

And they said, depression. And I said, well, I already know what triggers that for anybody. You can give them drugs all day long. All pro-Zac and Zolaf does is numb things. But I said, yeah, I just got off a mind. Oh, good for you. Yeah, I'm like 17 triggers that for anybody. You can give them drugs all day long. All pro-zac and Zola does is numb things, my sister. I just got off a mind. Oh, good for you. Yeah, I'm like 17 days off right now. So awesome.

Well, let's see how it goes. I thought I was gonna see how it goes. I appreciate it. But you're two patterns that you just did. Constantly focus what's missing and the past will make it a little harder for you to be happy on a long-term basis. Right.

And crack yourself up. So in the moments you change your state, but if you want a long-term basis. Right. Crack yourself up. So in the moments you change your state, but if you want a long-term change, all you have to do is change the habits, just the habit of focusing on what you do have, like your life is magnificent. Yeah, yeah, I got to, I try a lot. I just have to make sure I do. Well, it has to get conditioned. Right.

And then the second one, so it's all, so you don't have to think about it. If you think about it, it doesn't work, right? Because by that time, it's too late. And then the second one is focusing on what you can because you already do, but the past versus the present and the future enjoying the present and building the future. Just that little pattern, change somebody's life. You know, people are in pro-zac and so a lot of

all asking an audience, I got 15,000, 20,000 people, I say, how many of you know someone who's on amateur presence and they're still depressed in 95% of the room is their hand. And the reason is because those drugs numb you but they don't charge the cause as long as you constantly focus on what's missing for my wife and constantly work at the past which control. And if you on top of it, you're focused on what you can't control. That's why I got off because I couldn't be feelings. I was trying to be in relationships

and stuff and it's like, girls would be like, do you like me? And I'm like, I don't know. You know, like, I'm literally have to look at history of stuff like, it's almost like I would have to look at my own past for clues, right? Like on how I felt and so. Because you're being altered, right? You're being altered and not- Yeah, it was just too hard to get a real feeling out of myself

and so I was like, man, I gotta have some feelings or I'm not gonna be able to make some choices for myself. But for you, that's real awesome. But I want you to know, I want you know, the normal treatment is to put you on antidepressants and therapy or one of the other or both, right? So I asked the guys at Stanford, I said, you want to study it. Well, one of the meta studies, you know, you have multiple studies, they give you the averages. And they said, well, the meta studies show that 60% of people who take antidepress presence and now they know SSRs, our eyes don't even work. There was a cover

of years. A year ago on September, do you know what email me? I've been taking over email to you. 17 years. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't go like it September, September of 2022, cover of Newsweek says meta study show, the SSRs don't work, but we keep selling them. Right? What am I doing? But watch this. Here's the the SSRIs don't work, but we keep selling them. Right? What am I doing? But watch this, here's the stats. 60% don't improve at all. 40% of people improve the average improvement according to meta studies is 50%.

So they're half as depressed as they were. Now some people get well, but it's a very small percentage. So I say, you can almost do that with a placebo. And the guy laughed and said, yeah, I said, well, what's the best study you've ever done? The most effective study in science. They said there was 39 Johns Hopkins about five and a half years ago. Five years ago. I mean, who's Johns Hopkins?

Johns Hopkins Hospital has some of the best researchers and so forth. And so they did this study and here's what they did. They get people civil-sibing for a month, magic mushrooms, and cognitive therapy. I said, well, you ought to get some change out of that because, you know, it was the greatest change they've ever seen in history of psychiatry. Six weeks after treatment, 53%, excuse me, 54% of the people had no symptoms of depression. I take four stems in a diet coke. I'll talk to my sister for an hour, you know.

So I fully support that, sir. But unfortunately, you're saying there's new methods. There's new methods, but I said, okay, that's amazing, but I said, I think we'll do better, but let's see. So they did a group, they modeled that same drug study, the same thing with me with no drugs. I put people in this six day seminar I have called date with destiny, and they picked all the people

and put them all, let's see. That's your annual seminar, right? Yeah, it's a new one here. And they picked all the people and put them all in the seminar. That's your annual seminar, right? Yeah, it's a wonderful year. And what was amazing was the results were so profound that they don't want to get canceled. So they sent the data blind after three other organizations before they published it.

And they published in the journal psychiatry last year. Results, six weeks later with no drugs, just six days of rewiring your brain, 100% of the people, know depression whatsoever, even better, 17% of people had suicidal ideation, no suicidal ideation, here's the best part. 11 months later, they followed up. 72% reduction in negative emotions still know depression, 52% improvement in positive emotions. So when you make a shift in a way you use your brain and it gets conditioned, and it does

get conditioned. So they were studying how it works. And so there's a chemical change that actually happens in the body. In perspective, that's the thing. It's like, yeah, you got to change like, yeah, instead of just being like, I want to have this new, it's like, there's another rule for myself. I need to change the ruler. That's good.

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Yeah. It's a season. It will pass. You think that's true? I know it's true. You study history. Think of it this way. There's patterns.

Because we see a lot of stuff, right? There's so much things going on. It's like, you know, there's patterns. Because we see a lot of stuff, right? Like there's so much things going on, it's like, you know, there's all kind of, yeah, like we all, it feels like that's true. But some of this is constantly fed to you. Right, it's hard for me to know if it's true or if it's just so true, but it's disproportionate. It's like, you didn't know 30 years ago

there was an aircraft crash in some third four, third four country, but now you know in 10 seconds in your pocket. So you know when people overreact to something you've ever gotten pissed off over something little, the reason you overreact is it's not that moment. It's that it happened again. I said it did it again, right? So I call that stacking. So when you stack problem on problem on problem, pre-send your whole biochemistry, it's hard to get back. But you can also stack the good. That's why you do the morning priming.

So when you stack a good thing on top of good thing, on top of good thing, your whole biochemistry changes. And now you see the world through different eyes. It's not like your guaranteed to succeed, but your probabilities of pulling it off and enjoying yourself from about a thousandfold. Oh yeah, and I'll go to, I go to like, A.A. meetings, I go to recovery meetings, right?

So, and I notice if I go to a couple in a day, dude, by Friday, I'm a fucking good guy. You know, I'm like hugged in people. I'm like telling blind people, I'm a healer, I can't. And I'll do this for like 30 seconds on them. You know, it's like, you just feel like, but you're right, it's a, but it takes me, I have to stack them up and it's like, that's right. And then it's usually a couple days later that I even, it's like, you just feel like, but you're right, it's a, but it takes me, I have to stack them up

and it's like, that's right. And then it's usually a couple of days later that I even, I'm like, man, why do I feel so great? It's like, oh, because I did this work over the past 10 days, you know? And what you did there were actually, when you really do it strongly like that,

it creates a biochemical change and that creates a new habit in your nervous system. So what notices that in your body, like your chemistry in your body actually notices you're doing something different? That's what they found. Here's what they found. They did my work with a top professor

who was highly rated at Stanford. He did my work word for word, but he didn't do what I do in a vet, which just changed your biochemistry, changed the way you move, you breathe, your voice. All those things changed, he didn't do that, he just taught it. He got unbelievable results.

He's a tremendous teacher and professor, but mine were 300% greater because the biochemical change. So they followed me for three years. That made me wear the $68,000 device that measures heart rate variability. They come during every break and take my saliva, that took my blood, do you want blood pressure? Her, her, her, it's not.

It's crazy. It was crazy, but they did it on several events over three years. And they found all these wild things like... And is his Stanford did it? Yes, Stanford did. And what they found was, same group, the Stanford and partnership of the group that worked with like Tom Brady and some of the greatest athletes. And they have this thing they called the championship biochemistry.

And so if Tom Brady is down in the fourth quarter by ten points, it's super bowl. How's the guy come back and win? The reason is because there's a part of hand that goes in this state, and I do it every time I get on stage, but my audience does it as well, and they measure it. So what happens is testosterone explodes to my body. That gives you an incredible drive and push. And I've got to keep this building going. Imagine, you know, 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 people, I got to reach the guy

at the back for 12 straight hours. The level of intensity is amazing. Playfulness fun, but it's still intensity. But normally that has a lot of stress with it. My cortisol, which is the stress hormone, drops to the floor, same as time. So what you get is total drive, it doesn't guarantee success, but total drive and not a lot of stress. So you're able to stay centered and go.

So my audience, though, this amazing thing, they've certainly measured me. They found that I jump 1,000 times in a day on stage and I weigh 290 pounds. So every time I jump and come down, it's four times your body weight. So imagine 1,000 pounds of pressure, 1,000 times in a day.

So my bone density is, you look at it, I look like a gorilla under, you're a ghost. I've done it for like 40 years, right? So on the other hand, they also saw that, you know, if you're running with somebody and you can't talk any longer, you've gotten to a four of lactic acid.

I'm in an 18 and still speaking. So then they start testing my audiences. And they saw, it looks like music. When I go into these states, the audience follows me and they measured it then when COVID happened, I had all people at home. And so we had people in 195 countries. So they went to people in 40 countries and measured them in real time as we're doing this. Imagine it.

I built this, what happened was not zoom, but like a larger scale zoom. Yeah, 20-foot high LED screens, 0.6, 7-highest resolution. I built the piece so I can bring people up. Eric, you know, I'm from Zoom, he built the system. So instead of a thousand people, I could do 25,000. I've done a million and a half people and one seminar to give you an idea for four days. It's been wild. So, but when I built this, I wanted to figure out how people

and it's like, could it really work through these screens? It was just out of necessity because every stadium was closed. The governor of California calls me and says, March of 2020, we're about to have an event for 12,500 people and he goes, you only put a hundred people in the stadium. What are you talking about, right? It's not going to work.

So I was like, screw you, we'll move to Vegas. They'll never shut down Vegas. They shut down Vegas like 10 days before we moved 12,500 people there. Then I went, we'll go to Texas, the governor there told me, I'll never do that. He bet, right?

They moved toan's yard. We did it movie theaters for, they lied to put 10 people, and we did 1250 movie theaters, they shut down the movie theaters. So I built the studio. So they came and measured the people in all these different countries. And what's wild is, like we start here at 10 a.m.

for like a four day seminar. And I had like, I just did one for, you know, 14,000 people. And we had about a couple thousand people from Australia. We're starting to get to any of them. It's midnight for them. I go 12 to 13 hours. They go from midnight to one in the afternoon for four straight days and nights,

we lost 1% of the people. Good night. So they have, but their biochemistry is changing the same as mine. And so that's why a year later, the changes are still there without them ever interacting with me again. Because people will will this last. Well, that's why Stanford did the study.

So that's what the study is. So you're saying, so when the study we were talking a little bit ago, that was, they went back to people that had gone to your seminar. That's correct. And they measured them in a year later, you said? 11 months. 50 something percent of them still had. No, reduction of 72% negative emotions increase of positive emotions 52% but now you know people since

COVID we've got so used to being home people like why should I have to go to work I don't want to drive to work and people offices want people to come to work there's all these conflicts right there's a lot more people being able to work at home but now if you read the studies people are more unhappy now than they were at the peak of COVID because they wanted to be a home, but now they feel isolated. Yeah.

You know? And so what they don't understand is the path of least resistance never makes you happy. It's like you have to push yourself. When people talk about self-esteem, I hate this term. Like so many kids were taught to get a participation trophy for something. And they thought, I'm going to build their self-esteem this way. People can tell your whole life, you're a piece of crap, and your brain will screw you, I'll show you, and you become somebody.

People your whole life can tell you're beautiful, you're perfect, you're the best, and you can still not believe them, be depressed about your life and think you're nobody. Your life self-esteem, your self-esteem, a steam for yourself, is earned by you doing something difficult for you. When you do something that's incredibly hard

and you push through it, your brain starts to have inner pride, not fake ego pride. Right, so you're saying none of that outside of stuff doesn't really matter. Your self-esteem is truly based on your relationship with yourself. Yes, and your ability to grow. I mean, what makes people happy?

Progress. If you get some big goal, you're going to achieve a lot of them in your life, right? There's one of two responses when you achieve the goal. Horrible one is, is this all there is? What's a lot of people do after fighting for a goal and there's this all there is? Oh yeah. But the other one is, let's say, oh, this is amazing.

How long does that amazing feeling of achieving your goal last six years, a year, six months, six days, six hours? What would you say? Um, the actual, for me, it doesn't last really long. I don't feel that kind of stuff very much. Yeah, well, I'll say you'd be numb by those drugs, right? But for most people, somewhere between six hours and probably six weeks,

but you're not super long. No, and so the purpose of life is not just to get your goals, your goals, or you're getting what you want, doesn't make you happy, it'll make you happy is who you become and pursue to those goals. So the growth, the progress, even if you don't achieve it yet, doesn't make you happy, it'll make you happy is who you become and pursue to those goals. So the growth, the progress,

even if you don't achieve it yet, but you start losing weight, or you start building muscle, or you start making relationship better, or you start to build a business, the building, the progress is what makes you feel alive, because we're all made to either grow or die. If your relationship's not growing, it's dying,

if your business's not growing, it's dying. There's no in-between bullshit, that doesn't work. So, and when you grow, you have something to give. And what makes people fulfilled is growing and giving, sharing it with somebody, because there's only so much joy you can have by yourself. You can talk to alcohol, entertainment, sex with yourself, whatever, by yourself, there's a limit to what you can feel.

That's why whenever something great happens, most of us want to tell someone, share with somebody we love, because when you share it, it magnifies it. So that's really what we're trying to show people is how to create that kind of progress. And a problem in New Year's is, as you said, a resolution is just like, what do I want? And they don't think about any depth,

they say it and then here's the problem. They don't take it beyond that. They have no plan, right? Or it's a very simple plan. And by February one, but the first of February, 95% of those things are already broken. But what they're really like, it's like, I think money you're losing in December. You know, well, you need a path. And so if you want to make your relationship better, your business better, your life better, it starts with knowing what you want. You say, what do I want? Why do I want it? And what kind

of person would I have to be to have that stay? And then you got a second step where you got to tell yourself, find and tell yourself the truth, which is, there's a gap between where I am and where I want to be and don't bullshit yourself. Don't go, I'm a little overweight or I'm fat because I'm big bones. No, you're fat because you have poor habits, right? That's how it works. Yeah. Some people, yeah, I remember this. People always like, he'll grow out of it. And I'm like, dude, he's 34. Like my buddy's grandma's like, it's just baby fat. He'll grow out of it. It's like, we all have different, but it's like, he ain't fuck, you know, Ronnie ain't

grow out of it. But the reason I'll grow out of it is you have to see what's causing you to have that gap. And it's one of only a couple of things. Either you got fear, so you're not taking action. Or you might have, for example, some limiting beliefs like it never works, I've tried everything, the good ones are gone, so you don't even begin, or you might have some emotion gets in the way, or a bad habit, or maybe just missing the skill. Like no one's ever taught you how to make money or grow business or have a great relationship.

So you're learning on the job and it's painful to learn the job. So I've always said, find somebody who's extraordinary at something, or many people, figure out what they're doing and do that. It's painful to learn the job. So I've always said, find somebody's extraordinary at something or many people, figure out what they're doing and do that. It's called modeling. That's kind of reinventing the wheel. Now you're gonna add yourself to it. But modeling gives you the pathway to power. And then once you know what you want, why you want it,

you're honest about the gap. You come up with a quick plan, not a perfect one, and you start taking action. And then you face your demons, you slay your dragons. What needs to change? Like, okay, I'm never gonna relationship if I'm numb all the time. So I gotta change this.

It's hard, but I'm gonna do the hard thing. And when you do the hard thing, you get momentum. And then what was hard becomes easy after one, and that's really the secret. Dang, gosh. I'm gonna need to calculate, even go through that again, but that's okay, you know, but it's a lot of great information, you know, and I talk, I talk rabbits. I'm so passionate,

but you know, you take people through it in an event where they get to process it and take time through it to give you sense. Yeah, no, I appreciate it, man. I feel like it's nice you to share that stuff with us because I know it's stuff that you learned over the years and, you know, and there's a lot of value in that and that you've even taken that time to just share that kind of stuff with us. And I know you guys have a program, it's not the date with Destiny, but you guys have another program that you guys do. Oh yeah, that program started with COVID

because when all the world shut down, it's like people need this right now, how do I help? So I built that studio I told you about, and I was like, okay, why don't I do, well you don't have travel because they can't? Why don't make it so there's no money involved? And let's just serve as many people as we can. And so I put together this three-day immersion

of just three hours a day, not 12. And I said, let's give people an experience where they can really transform. The first year we had a half a million people do it. Last year, we had a million half people. So we're doing one more this year. All at the same time. All at the same time all at the same time

Wow, and 195 countries every country in the world is so fantastic So we're doing one this year January 25th through the 27th. It's absolutely free. There's no charge not partially free And all the people up to as they go to it's called time to rise like it's time to change your time to rise summer dot com Yeah, January 25th through 27th and it's free It's free for anybody wants to go and they can bring the friends or family, they can do it from their house and have traveled and go to the office and do it with people around them. So it's really amazing. The results we have had people

change their business, change their relationship, get off drugs. I'll tell you one fun example though. Two years ago, there's this guy that was 735 pounds. He never would have made it to a seminar. He's always free. He's been in bed. His brother died. He got addicted to a seminar. He's always free. He's been in bed. His brother died. He got addicted to pain killers. Oh, yeah. And then he, his body just blew up.

And then he's now, they told me have to be an Arashi and that has the rest of his life. He couldn't get out of bed. A C-PAP machine, mean? Yeah. Well, it wasn't C-PAP, it's pure ongoing oxygen. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.

And then secondly, he couldn't get out of bed to go to the bathroom. He had to be in bed. He was making him bed for five years. And seven and 30 pounds. So he watches. I'm sorry. He was making him bed for five years and seven and 30 pounds. So he watches, and I brought him up on screen. I didn't know he's there. He raised his hand digitally.

So I raised it up and I asked him questions. So he got so inspired by this, he took this little like, like, clothes hanger bar and just started doing these little exercises. And over 90 days, I told him, I said, you get out of that bed, make it the restroom, you get out of the restroom and drive a car again, which I hadn't done in seven years. I'm gonna have been seven years. And I said, I'll fly you to my unleashed power

within a vet for four days, you walk on fire with me and you'll really shift your life, right? He's lost 320 pounds. He three months later was out of the bed for the first time. He drove a car, he fell in love with this girl. He came to the vet and walked on fire. And now he's like, we have a network of people because once you come to this event

there's people all over the world you become friends with. And he's like the superstar of all these people because they can't believe the changes he's made and it all happened because he never would have come to it at that, but because he could do it from home. In his bed, you could do that. It could reach him. Wow.

What's something like, I noticed, like there's been times in my past where it's like, I think I didn't want to change because I wanted to keep having an excuse, right? Like, I remember even with smoking, I remember it was like, part of me didn't want to stop, there was a part of me I realized

I didn't want to stop smoking because I knew if I stopped, I wouldn't, and it wasn't like a, it was kind of a subconscious part of me, but I knew if I stopped, I wouldn't, and it wasn't like a, it was kind of a subconscious part of me, but I knew if I stopped, I wouldn't have something to blame by inefficiency on or might. What, I just wouldn't have something to blame. It's like, it gave me something to blame. Is that making any sense?

It does because everything we do, even things that seem stupid or drogatory, we do to meet some needs. There's only six needs people have. We have a need for comfort or certainty. We have a need for variety. We have a need to feel significant, unique, special, important.

Everybody has that need. We have a need to feel connection and love. We have a need to grow. We have a need to contribute beyond ourselves. It was just comfort. I think. Yeah. It's the comfort and the certainty, what you know.

But there is a fear that everybody has. Two fears. All human beings at some moment feel that they're not enough. And to feel like you're not enough for someone who's love you crave, makes a person crazy and so- Like for someone who's, why don't you hear that right? Somebody who's love you crave. The average person, you don't care.

But if somebody who's love you really want. Oh yeah. So if you feel like you're not enough, then you feel like you won't be loved to be worthless and unloved as like psychological death. So people drug themselves, they do anything not to feel that. Well, what are your choices on changing that? Well, you could take on a new project, build a podcast, build a business, do something,

but you have to dig risk to do that. And risks you could look like a failure, you could fail, which might look like your worthless, might look like you're not worthy of low. So subconsciously, we come up with these ways to adapt. So smoking a cigarette come for you because we take that big, slow breath in and blow it out nice and slow. It changes the tempo in your body completely. You look stressed. You can do that same shit without the cigarette. But when you're addicted and it becomes the go to some people stop smoking, then they overeat because overeating puts all the blood in your stomach and you start to breathe slowly again and feel things and you let go.

So you can get certainty and comfort by those ways or you could go out by working out and developing a sense of strength that makes you certain or you can do the same thing day after day. There's so many ways. There's positive ways and negatives. But we also need uncertainty. We need variety. If every day you know what's going to happen, how it's so many ways, there's positive ways and anyways, but we also need answer. We need variety. If you, if every day, you know, what's going to happen?

How it's going to happen? You get bored out of your mind. But if you have so much variety, you don't know what's going to happen. People freak out. So these needs bounce up against each other. And so when people do a behavior like smoking, smoking will give you comfort. Certain day, smoking will give you, in some people's case, variety, because you're stressed out.

Now you change your state. That feels different. It's called variety. Smoking will give you significance if you think it's cool, although today it's a little harder to do that because most people think you're an idiot and we put you in a separate room by yourself. Yeah, they think you are. Yeah, so, but it used to be, I'm cool if I smoke.

And some people say, you can't make me not smoke. I'm significant, right? For some people to wait and connect with other people who smoke, right? So when you meet one of those needs, like it. When you meet two you're really like when you meet three you get addicted and you get addicted to positive things you get addicted to exercise you get addicted to working out you get addicted to you know growing your business. You everyone gets addicted to something. If it meets a bunch of your needs it's amazing and in a relationship something. If it meets a bunch of your needs, it's amazing. And in a relationship, if a person is certain that you love them, and there's always a surprise, they say, oh, I know they love me,

and we have so many surprises, we only have so much variety in our life. And I feel like the most important person significant, and I feel so much love them are growing contributing. I'm leaving. Nobody says that. Because when your needs are not, people stay like, whenever I work with couples, and we're gonna hundreds of thousands of couples over the years, and they always say, one of them always say, I gave him or her everything, everything except what they needed. If you came with they needed, they wouldn't be leaving.

Do you think we're afraid to say what we need though to, or do you think we even know what we need sometimes? Most people don't, you're absolutely right. Most people not only don't say it, but most people don't even know it. They're not even honest to themselves yet, right? How do we need sometimes? Most people don't, you're absolutely right. Most people not only don't say it, but most people don't even know it. They're not even honest to themselves yet, right? And how do we get that? Because it almost seems like you're just wanderin'

around in the dark if you don't even know that there's wiring in the walls, you know, kind of. Well, there's a part of your brain called the reticular activating system, big words that scientists usually call it the RAS. It determines what you notice. So there are millions of things you can focus on even in this moment. The blood rushing through your ear, the heartbeat, your clothing, touching your skin, but you're not thinking

about it, right? You delete all that. You focus on a small number of things. The RAS notices what you are going to focus on. So if you get clear on what you want, you just say, okay, and by the way, when you say a relationship, I don't know what I want. I go great. Describe the relationship from hell. What do you don't want? Tell me every, you know, I don't want a person like this. I don't want to be like that. I don't want to be. And that creates energy. When they're done with a whole list, then I go right the opposite and you have the relationship from heaven. Or I don't know what I want to career a job. Right? Everything you don't want. Who do you not want to work with? What kind of working not want to do? People get their energy going

with that. They're okay. Right. the opposite. You got the job from having. So once you know what it is that you really, really want, now all you gotta do is figure out, okay, what's gotten in the way? What do I need to shift? How can I mean, my needs in a better way? But that's why we do events like this because tell people to go do that

in their normal environment, it's difficult. But when you go into total focus, it's like, I started to say earlier, if you wanna learn a language, and you went to high school, did you take a language for a language? You got to Spanish one and Spanish, I think 2000.

And you speak Spanish well now? No, I was like, he got busted for fraud or something, but I don't know what we learned. Yeah, but I was in there for, I was in there. Yeah, I was in there. But the reason you don't recall it was because it was a little bit at a time. The brain doesn't learn that way.

The brain learns best by immersion. If I said, you have the money in the time, I'm not gonna teach you Italian. I'm gonna drop you in Rome and I'm gonna pick you up in 90 days with no teacher. 90 days later you're speaking Italian because you're in it 24th day, seeing it, feeling experiencing it.

That's how I teach. That's why I do 12 hours for four days. That's why it's an intense thing. Or it's immersion. Yeah, and that's why I teach. That's why I do 12 hours for four days. Right, that's why I said, yeah, that's why it's an intense thing. Or it's an immersion. Yeah, and that's why it lasts. Because that's why it lasts. Ah, wow, man. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.

I think it's just neat to see that even just using your seminar as an example, that it takes immersion. It takes some real commitment. Even if people are coming for six days or even if people are gonna show up for long days on Zoom for four days in a row, it's like whatever it is,

it takes some real commitment from ourselves to be able to do those things. So I get a lot of people that get dragged there by somebody and they're like, oh, I'm gonna have to hear the first break. And I remember out of friend of mine, he's now a friend of mine, he wasn't before, but he came with a client and friend of mine who was an NFL player.

This guy's a billionaire and he sat down and he saw people clapping and moving and stuff because we move the body. It's not a rah-rah session. It's the change about chemistry. There's a science behind it, right? He goes, I'm not gonna do this. I'm a billionaire. I don't do this crap, right? And like 30 minutes later, he's jumping. And this is the greatest experience in my life, you know? So sometimes you have to get in the experience to know what it is. And then when you're in it and it's so enjoyable,

just change doesn't have to be painful. It can be enjoyable. And if you don't know what to do and you just do a little bit at a time, pretty hard to get a real change. But when you go for full immersion, that's what happens. But, you know, I still write books and do audios and things like that because you need immersion

and then you need some space repetition. You need to feed the mind in a regular basis. I like up three things. I go, I want to feed my mind every day. I'm going to need to read, you heard an audio for 20, 30 minutes. So I'm constantly growing in some way. I want to do immersion. Even I do this two, three times a year. I'll go places harder to do now because who I am, but I'll go the back of the room. I'll get somebody one-on-one to coach me about something. I did this brain training, for example. It was like four days a night, but all these electrodes on your brain to teach you how to go on what's called alpha brain,

the part of your brain where happiness is a lot easier, right? So I remember, it was like 12 hours a day. It was freezing coldness, dark room, and you hear these sounds based on your brain's working, how to retrain your brain. It was hell, I like, who do I gotta kill to get out of this? Oh me, I'm the one to put myself in this thing, yeah. But at the end of four days.

And El Castro, it sound like you were in day one. Don't kind of like that. But after four days, did you entertain him quite a little bit? And I read that you didn't see the day? Yeah, I did, I did what this was, I didn't. I heard that, that's really cool of you to do that. That was crazy, I can't believe that.

Tell me about that. Well, I'll tell you about it. So first of all, they have a golf course down there, which I didn't even think you don't think like, because they're in the, they're in a tropical area, right? So these people, they're down there. It's a beautiful area. So you go down. I remember the flight we went on to go down there. You, they have to, you have to fly in like this crazy pattern, I guess, in case like somebody shooting at you, like you have to be able to evade it.

So you go in this crazy shape, and then you see like out of the darkness is just like this. It looks like a big diamond ring like lit up just all the outlines of the whole base, you know. And so we went there. There's all these big lizards. Not a lot of ladies. Bring your own lady, you know, or something. Or bring, you know, bring a buddy who's well enough, you know, say is a lady, you know. But there's, yeah, because there's not, I think, there was, I think seven women down there. There's like 1100 soldiers down there though. There's seven women.

Yeah, that's a brutal one. It's tough. But they are, look, I'll tell you this. The first day you might be like, I don't think she's my type. By the fourth day, you're like, that is damn Hillary Clue. And you can, you get to come home. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, the four, I mean, there's a wedding ring shop there, and it is, I mean, there's a woman there. There was just a pole ring like this. Yeah, it looks like that collection you have right there. And there's just, but it is. That part is pretty remarkable.

Oh, just the beaches they have down there, real beautiful. You don't hear anything about them though, because they're the ones on the military base. So did you go to entertain the soldiers? The soldiers, yeah, we got to see some of the troop areas and we got to do like some volleyball with some of the prisoners or whatever. But, um, some of the prisoners they made them wear like, they couldn't even see while they're

doing the volleyball. It was bizarre, but yeah, we got to play volleyball. They play volleyball and you can't see. Not if that's, yeah, that's a. That's the rules they made for them. But yeah, and that might be our own. I don't know if you know the form of torture. Yeah, it may be, I don't know what the, the, the act is or the law is, but I'm hopefully they prevented.

Yeah, that shouldn't be allowed. It was semi fun, I guess, but it was, yeah, but what was it like? Yeah, that was amazing, man, just to be able to be down there, you know, is just to be able to go do comedy there. It's good to be to go and deal with it, brighten people's spirits. It was fun. We got to do a bunch. We got to go to go to a lot of the forward operating bases during like the not Kuwait, but maybe Iraq like after that. Yeah. Like Bahrain. So you're the modern day Bob Hope with a little more color. We went out there, dude.

I think they call me Bobby hopeless But we still show up, you know, dude. I met it gal. Yeah, one time I mean I got to make out with a girl in a black-haul helicopter But I haven't made up Neither me or her were that handsome. I'll say that. You sure was her. I'll tell you who knows.

She won the seven. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, whatever you gotta do, man, it's the troops, you know. Don't ask, don't ask. I think that's what they're doing now. But no one knows. I mentioned that to you though, it is, it was worth it. Cause the end those four days, I've rewired my brain

to have a different level of happiness. So you believe this, you know this, you've done it so many times that that is the key. That's the thing. It's like you excluded out these other things of like, this is fool's goal, this is fool's goal, this is fool's goal. Well, I've been through plenty of fool's goal.

That's how you get to the good stuff. Right, that's what I'm saying. But if you give up, if you give up, because something's bullshit, most of it's bullshit. But then you find those gems that really work. And when you find the gems work, then you can use them for the rest of your life and then you share them with other people

because you can see it really works. And then you get the science behind it. In the past, I've just got people the results. That is the science, right? But it's nice now to have science justifying or being able to show people how powerful it is, how effective it is. But you know, it's been the journal's psychiatry last year

and all the people thought this is gonna spread like crazy, not one phone call because there's still cell SSRIs, right? So I mean the same people come to me, they've always come to me, but nobody from the psychological community on major scale. They just big conference and share the results again, and people are fascinated and this came up mass questions. But there's too much money in the, and I don't know, it's just even money, made just a big conference and shared the results again and people are fascinated and this came up mass questions.

But there's too much money in the, and I don't just even money, it just happens. This is how they do their business. It's a business right for those people. So what do you say to somebody like me then, or I mean, sorry, I'm sitting here, so I'm also me, but yeah, like who's, because there's ways, like I know once I,

right when I weaned off of my medicine, right, I got the, I actually didn't talk to my doctor, but I've gotten off so many times over the years, I felt like I knew what I, right when I weaned off of my medicine, right? I got the, I actually didn't talk to my doctor, but I've gotten off so many times over the years. I felt like I knew what I was doing. I did let my close friends know, hey, I'm getting off my medicine. Let me know if anything's in the time. Just Alexa Pro, I've been taken, right?

And I said, let me know if anything seems strange or whatever, you know? But then I saw more strange unusual. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude, if I'm just like master baiting at the house, dude, yeah.

That's natural. That's normal. Yeah. That's normal behavior. Right, but if I'm pet shopping, you know, that's what you need to call something. You know, you can certainly call something. I'm looking at a dog that's really scary.

Can you fetch? Oh, yeah, it's getting weird. But what I'm saying is, yeah, so there, but I started running, right? I knew I said, that's great. My biggest thing is I don't want to lose this bad, this opportunity to see how I'm feeling because I'm not doing my part of taking care of myself.

Yeah, I have so much respect for you doing that. It's so hard to do, but you did the right thing, which is what I teach. You got to replace it with something. You don't stop doing something. You replace something else, but we were placing it with actually changes your biochemistry. Yeah, I don't want to run. Running face at heart.

I'm a freaking like it, dude. Isn't that cool? I met somebody yesterday and we got some damn brook shoes together. Well, that's a good first step. Yeah. Literally. But you get the runners high and it's a good eye for you and you're making it. So it's like, it's not about stopping what you're right, but you get the runners high and it's a good eye for you and you're making so it's like

It's not about stopping what you're doing. It's about starting something else. It's more fulfilling Like running what needs is it me does it make you feel comfortable afterwards? You feel certain you're gonna feel good when you run 100% you have a variety when you run is like a totally different state Yes, I know I'll go around the track this way So I'll go around the track this way, okay, and do you have sense of significance like shit? I'm really changing. I'm improving, I'm becoming more. Some guy the other day, like this kind of tough guy, was like, man, you've been out there for a while.

That's cool, it's not that you feel good. Yeah. And do you feel more connected to yourself or God when you're running or the universe or nature or anything like that? Yeah, I feel like I'm able to have some kind of, or like my brain will have conversations that maybe I've been, been meaning to have or whatever,

they just kind of show up while I'm running. And do you feel like you're growing by doing this running? I get better. Yeah, I feel like it's not going to hurt me, that's for sure. Yeah. And there may be some form of contribution that will come out of it because because you feel so much better, you'll be able to get more. So you mean at least four or five of your needs by running? Yeah.

versus the drugs made you feel certain. Did they make you feel variety? Um, no, that was the biggest problem. I was born. I got any feelings. That's what you feel certain. Did they make you feel variety? No, that was the biggest problem. I was born, I didn't have any feelings. That's the dead. Did they make you feel significant? No. No, then they make you feel connected.

No. No. They make you feel like you're growing. No. Contributing to others? No. So I met one need. But when you get in habit of it and you're numb, it's hard to shift. So it's, the only reason people shift is they hit a threshold.

I'll give you the chemistry of transformation. You see how it works for you. Okay. Like there's five elements that, when they're there, people transform. So the first one that usually happens is satiation. Satiation means there's nothing wrong, but you've been doing the same thing over and over and over again after a while. If your favorite meal was steak and lobster, and you have it every day, three times a day,

there's going to be a point where you go like, there's nothing wrong with steak and lobster, but man, I'm satiated, right? And that makes you look around. What might do different, but it doesn't usually make you change. It just opens your mind to change. Then you need the second element and that is dissatisfaction. Now, it's not just you're doing it, it's not as good, now you're doing it and it doesn't feel good.

And you start to feel that in the relationship side. I don't want to feel this way. Then that's still not enough. That makes you look more for a change. That's the second piece of chemistry. The third piece of chemistry is now you hit a threshold. Thresholds, you've been in a relationship way too long. Oh, yes.

Yeah. You knew I was wrong. I want to apologize, too, to a couple of women. Yeah. I should have known. You knew I was wrong. You knew it wasn't serving them or serving you, but you stayed because it was certain. It was hard to change.

Well, what if I'm alone? I was afraid to say certain things. Yeah. But if you got to the point where the way you stay is you go, it'll get better. It was better in the past or you jump to the future and say it's better. But there's a day we hit a threshold, we go, it's been painful in the past, it's painful today, it's gonna be painful forever. I'm the F out of here, right?

That's when people start to change. When you hit a threshold, you get the fourth piece. Get an insight. And the insight is what's really true and you should figure it out. It's not my partner, it's not my job, it's me. What's going on in me? And you make a distinction and that creates an opening. Like there's a chance you to change your life

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I could say that, yeah, I'm ashamed of myself, but it's really a feeling, you have to really, and it's so like, it's like a, it's so vague, kind of, if that makes any sense. But it feels like like one of the biggest sicknesses of our being. You know, shame is one of the most negative emotions because what it does is it shrinks everything in you and it puts you in such a negative state that your energy drops. So think of this way. Your energy is really low. You do very little to change things.

Everything seems impossible. You don't respond to other people the same level. When you're super high energy, you've done whatever takes. You're either excited about your future or your present or you're working on yourself or you're working out like running in your that high energy. Same problem happen. You can laugh at a crack a joke at it. And it's easy, right?

So your energy level with certain emotions increase, and other emotions goes through the floor. And when you beat yourself up, or you have shame, or anything like that, your energy goes down, and then it's even harder to change, which increases more shame. See, I said I was going to change. I didn't change what's wrong with me.

Why can't I do this? And then you start building up a story that it's something wrong with you. And when I try to explain to people, there's nothing wrong with you. You're not broken, you don't need to be fixed. I'm not here to be your guru. What you need is there's some patterns,

some habits in the way you use your mind and your body. If we change those habits, you'll have a different experience. That's all it is. But being ashamed will keep you away from that because the energy is so negatively in your body and you're so wiped out that it's like it's impossible. And then when you're in ashamed, you come up all these negative beliefs about yourself.

And once you believe something, what do you believe it's true? You believe it not is true, because when you believe something's true, you'll find evidence for it. Yeah. I'll give you a little test. Look around this room right now and notice everything you can see that's brown.

Everything you can find, some test. Look all around, both sides of you, anything you see that's brown, people at home, look at that in your own room. You see his brown. Okay, close your eyes. Okay. Tell me everything you just saw that was red. Now, obviously, you saw a lot more brown, didn't you?

Yeah. Because you're looking for it. Open your eyes, now look for red. Look for red. Anywhere you can find red. Any place you can find red. Okay. Okay.

You find more red this time? How come? Kind of looking for red. That's right. Once you develop a belief, you find what supports it. So watch this. You will find stuff that's not even there in order to be successful. I bet you saw some base shit called it brown just to feel successful, did you?

I don't know. I bet you saw some things burgundy and called them red just so you could feel successful. Faceted in some of those up now and later. You know what I'm saying? If you think you're screwed up, you're messed up. You're gonna find and you're gonna color yourself that way. If you think someone else is a jerk,

you're gonna, if you think they're your friend and they have a bad day, they have bad behavior, you're all they're having a bad day. If you think they're a bad person, then it's always gonna be that. What was the first part you said of that? If you think.

Whether you think it's true or what you think is not, it's gonna be true for you. In other words, whatever you believe is self-evident. You reinforce what you believe. You found what you were looking for. So you gotta train yourself to look for something different. That's why I do priming and that's why I do immersion. Cause after four or five days of thinking differently, seeing differently, focusing differently,

different beliefs, you have a different life, a different experience. But if you do it for a few minutes, it's kind of hard to do. So that's why I still do events because immersion has so much power. But some people do it through an audio. They listen to like an audio 30 minutes a day every day, and they develop a new set of habits, or they do it by exercising, or they do a reading of book, and then they use it right away. So there's lots of ways to get there, but immersion's the fastest way. It is.

And that's the fastest method. And you use it for yourself too. Of course. It's like going to that class. Why am I still doing that? It's like, because you gotta keep growing. And every time you make a new insight, it stacks on all the other good things.

You can stack the negative and be overwhelmed, or you can stack the positive and feel this tremendous sense of momentum. And that's the other good things. You can stack the negative and be overwhelmed or you can stack the positive and feel this tremendous sense of momentum. And that's the other secret, momentum. You're getting momentum right now, it sounds like. Momentum is like you've ever watched a team and they're getting a butt kicked, and then somebody suddenly does something magical.

They steal the ball, they do something and boom, it's great to spark, and then the other team takes over, right? Momentum shifts everything, and momentum comes by And then the other team takes over, right? Momentum shifts everything. And momentum comes by doing the right thing over and over. And after a while, it becomes what you expect to do. Or another one is certainty. You know, I work a lot of great athletes. Those rings are from all, you know, that's from,

you know, I own some teams like the L.A.F.C. football club and the Golden State Warriors on a piece of them, the Dodgers on a piece of them, but I've also coached them all. So those are all national championship rings that I've them, but I've also coached them all. So those are all national championship rings that I've got. So I'm really proud of those rings. They're a representation of when I was able to build by working with these people.

But when you look at the people that are the best of the best, they have certainty. If you see Steph Curry, you know what I'm saying with the Warriors, he makes those three point shots. I'm almost half court, right? He releases the ball. He doesn't wait to go through. He turns around and just like he already knows it's in. Now how does he do that?

Who's a genius? Well, true, but where did the genius come from? He's been shooting 500 shots a day, every single day, seven days a week for his entire adult life and most of his teens. I'll think about that. He's been in the NBA 15 years. He's the greatest three point shooter

in the history of the world. He made 3,360 something shots now, three point shots. No one even close. Watch this. 500 shots a day. That's 14,000 shots a month. That's 168,000 shots a year. That's over 15 years. Just his professional career. 2.52 million shots he's taken in practice so that he can make 3,300 and be the greatest in history. So people get rewarded in public for what they practice in private. Yeah. Sometimes I have a tough time feeling proud of myself. Do you know what that, you know, and I think I've had other people calling our, our show that I've talked about that, you know. What do you think it is? I don't know.

I feel like, I almost feel like there's a disconnect, like it doesn't even land on me. Or I feel like maybe if I feel like I'm proud of myself, like if I actually feel proud of myself, it'll go against some script that I've always had written or some thing that was always written inside of me. It's almost like it wouldn't, if I wrote on the wall of myself, I'm proud of you, it

wouldn't even fucking show up on the wall. Well, a motion would you feel if you saw that? Like what a motion when I feel if I saw it was? I'm proud of myself. Would you go bullshit? Would you sit be pissed off by it? Would you be annoyed? Would you just sit on a fake bed? No, I think I think I feel ashamed of myself even thinking it. That's interesting

And it produced an emotion in you just now even when you just thought about I saw that flash in your eyes It's just a little bit of water. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, dude. Fuck we crown here every week. Sorry No, it's okay, but yeah, we don't have any we don't have any shame about that No, you shouldn't but I'm saying liquid leaving your body in a public place as long as your eyes are not a problem. Yeah, don't talk into that, huh? Don't ask, don't ask. But my point is there's a real anchor for you there. So let me explain it to you.

Everybody has what I call an emotional home. Do you ever watch like a place here and let's say, you know, where the cycle and happens every two, three years and it wipes out everything or tornado comes through? Oh, yeah. And you see these poor people, where the cycle and happens every two or three years at Wipes Out everything or tornado comes through. Oh, yeah. And you see these poor people, all the stuff's all over the ground and they're picking it up.

And you have a hard stone not to feel. They rebuild two years again and happens again, two years later happens again. Some part of you eventually goes, why don't you move? You know, it's like, why don't you move? Yeah. A lot of Vietnam's like that, it floods. New Orleans is like that, it floods.

New Orleans is like that. So here's why don't they move? Because it's home. It's what they know. We have an emotional home. We have certain emotions that got built up in your youth. And I had four fathers, I had a mother, it was pretty intense. And I had a lot of emotions that came out of that experience.

If I didn't reprogram myself, I wouldn't be sitting here with you today. Because my emotional home was not good at feeling. So it's what I was used to. So even though it didn't feel good, you'd go there because it's what you know. Yeah. It's comfortable. Yeah, it almost felt like I was deserting myself

if I felt good about myself. That's right. Which is crazy. I almost feel like I was leaving. I don't know. Yeah, it's almost like I knew those feelings. I finished that thought. I'm believing what?

What's almost like I feel like I know those feelings of not feeling good about myself so well that I would be, I don't wanna leave them alone because we always had each other. And it was like, if I leave them, you know. Have you ever had a friend? If I leave them, I just, I won't, I don't know. Does that make sense though?

Yeah, it does, you want what? If I leave them, I'll just be letting them down. And they're not even real, but they're, to part of me, some part of me inside of me, I can't even access. They're like his brothers. That's right. They're your home, brother. Yeah.

And by the way, I really appreciate you being so vulnerable because the people watching there seeing that allow them to be vulnerable because you're role model of that. It's because you're funny as shit, but to be able to be that vulnerable is beautiful, but let me just tell you something, those are not your friends. Yeah. And you're not gonna abandon those parts of yourself,

you're gonna find these other parts yourself that need to be in charge. It's not to say that you can't have negative emotions or fears or feelings, but the ones that don't support you, you gotta break that pattern. And the way you break the pattern first, is just start to see, you get a new experience. If I get you an experience where you feel like you actually felt proud of yourself without those feelings, and there was no sense of loss, and I did that with you for days and days,

you'll never go back. Wow. Because your brain will go, what the f, I'm not going back to that bullshit. What's work my friend? It'd be like, you know, it's like having a friend that beats a shit out of you every single day and I was like, I'm letting him down if I wanted to beat the shit out of me, right?

He's like, oh no, I gotta be there for him cause I gotta be there so you can beat the shit out of me on the face, right? That's pretty much what it's all about. It's like, here, there you're like, now here we go again. And so then what happens though is the reason you went for the antidepressants is it's so overwhelming that numbing at least feels a little less.

I'd rather see you cry and feel the pain and I want you to feel pain as a brother. Yeah, no, I'm grateful to feel it. I wanted that in my sense. That's right. But the next step for you is drawing a line in the sand of how you really want to feel. So I'll have people in the event right down.

I get in like a minute. I go draw line in the middle, right down the left side. All the positive emotions you feel in an average week, not once a year, not once a month, and once you regularly feel whatever good feelings. The average emotions in a positive week. So what are some ones you feel in a week?

In a week, at least once a week. Okay, any motion? Positive, start with the positive. Positive, a powerful, hopeful, thankful, loving. Powering most hopeful, okay. Um, thankful, um, loving. Yeah. Um, and maybe some pride. Good.

And so the pride, the pride is sneaking in. Now that's not ego pride. That's pride of like, you're growing. Well, I'm learning about pride. I mean, it's like I said, it's really hard for me to feel proud of myself, you know. So stop saying that. Okay. Because every time you say that, you're rewiring it back in your body. Over. No, it's a story. It's like there's an old phrase that says,

tell lie big enough, tell lie big enough, loud enough and long enough, sooner later people believe it. You know, said that. Yeah. Look, I think we just say, Fauci. It was the same difference. But yeah, we're aligned. You're You're quicker, thinker than I am. But no, so yeah, we hear what we're saying. But the conversation you've said with yourself, how many times you think you've said that? Said what? That, you know, it's hard for me.

I say it a lot. Yeah, it's because I think I'm, yeah, it's like having a new story for myself. How do you know? Hard to me is still, there's a heavy bit. To my whole new story, having a new story. Even. Hard to me is still, there's a heavy bit. To a whole new story, to having a new story. Even having some success in my life, it's almost like some of it feels embarrassing.

And some people feel like, the word people use as imposter syndrome, it's all bullshit, it's just fear that you're not enough. We all have that fear, brother. I feel that at times, I don't feel much now, but I'm 63 years old and I've done a shitload of things for 40 years. You both have enough pattern.

Yeah, built up new patterns. It's like a muscle. You know, everybody's got the muscle. If you use it it grows, you don't use it, you lose it, right? It doesn't ever disappear though. It just looks like it's not there. But if you demand that you push it beyond what it's comfortable with, and that's what you're doing right now, you're pushing beyond your comfort.

You were settling for comfort to try to survive. Now you're like, F that, I want more out of this life. You know, I'm not gonna settle for that shit, but then you keep telling yourself the old story. So change your story, change your life. It sounds overly simplistic, but it is true. No, I love it. I appreciate you saying it.

Yeah, I think a lot of this chat has been about that. But look at the positive emotions you wrote down. It's, are you just told me verbally, right? So you're hopeful, are you playful or funny or what would be your term around that party? Because I didn't hear that party. I didn't hear it's there. No, I feel like that part of me became such my work

that I haven't had as much free time to be that. Is that what I'm like? And you're on, okay, cool. So those are the positives. What are the negatives you feel on an average week? At least once a week, not once a month, once a year, what are the negative motions you feel? Ugly. Okay.

I feel incapable, angry, and I feel disappointing. Okay. So which of those emotions is most powerful for you? Pause the list or the negative list? The negative list is more powerful. And that's true for most people. Watch this. What's an emotion that if it became the dominant

emotion in your life, one or two, it would get rid of those and I guess like they would have any power for you. What would be an emotional state? Would it be like courage or would it be playfulness or would it be, let's say joy, or you already got gratitude, more gratitude. Well, being a motion that's so strong, then we get rid of the disappointment. I'll be love, you know. There you go, and that's your core brother.

I didn't hear you say that on the first one. That's all you really want. It's probably why you do this podcast, probably why you make people laugh. Me too, by the way. The whole reason I do it, I love people, I love see people laugh because I was so unhappy myself, and I got out of it.

So I was so grateful, it's like, I feed 100 million people a year, 100 million meals. I'm doing it. I've done a billion meals in the last eight years. I did, that's what McDonald's did, didn't it? And it was free, they're pretty cheap in McDonald's, but that ain't, dude.

But I did it, not because I'm a good person, I did it because I grew up and I're pretty cheap in the dollars, but that ain't good. But I did it not because I'm a good person. I did it because I grew up and I had no money and no food. And when I was 11, somebody came and fed us on Thanksgiving and I was like, that made me believe strangers care. Strangers care about me and I care about strangers. And so I fell in love with people. And I want to make people feel happy. And I know what it feels like not to food.

I know what it feels like to be absolutely depressed and miserable and saying, do I even need to stick around in this life, right? So I don't want anybody else to feel that. So it drove me to find answers, not just for me. Once I found them for me, I wanted to help as many people as I can. But why don't I want to do it?

Because I love love. Because when you help people that much, I may have so much love in my life as you did. Cause I get stopped on the street every day and people don't come up and say, oh, I like your show or something. Come on, go, you changed my life. Oh my God, I love you, Tony Robbins.

And I always say, no, I didn't do it. You did it, but I'm glad I helped. But I love the love that comes from it. So we all really want love, but we're afraid we're not enough. And you, my friend, you are growing like a weed right now because you're doing things most people never get out of. And I'm not blowing smoke you in. I'm not a bullsh**.

No, I don't feel that man. I appreciate you saying it. Yeah, it's true. It's been a lot of work. But you got to notice your progress and you got to stack the good and then you got to stop the old story. And the minute you start to say that phrase, bullshit, that's an old story.

It's not true anymore. You know, I think a part of me is afraid that I'm gonna leave a part of me. Like, if I, you know, if I even, if I be successful. So let's investigate that for a second. Like if I be successful, I'm gonna leave a part of me behind, you know.

Well, then you're after right now because you're already successful. God, I don't know how many millions of people I'm sure that watch your podcasts. You make people laugh all over the world. People that are embarrassed sometimes. But all those emotions are old habits. They're just habits. So I understand that. And by the way, when you feel embarrassed or you feel these negative emotions,

yeah. Understand that and by the way when you feel embarrassed or you feel these negative emotions. Yeah It also makes you feel for yourself for a little bit So that's the other part you might be afraid of like some people take care of it Oh, like for some I don't know if this is you some people are so busy trying to give rails happy all the time They don't take care of themselves And less it's a big-ass problem and then for the the first time, even if it's a negative feeling, at least I'm feeling for myself. I'm feeling for me and that might be what you're afraid of losing.

Let's try it for a second here. When I told you, you could go back and feel like shit as much as you want and you don't ever stop. But you don't have to have that be the predominant emotion of your life. That you, this need to beat yourself up or be ashamed or not be too happy that it's an old story that got wired a long time ago and has nothing to do with who you really are. But when you

keep telling yourself, it's like my friend I take care of, I'm a loser part of myself. No, you'll never lose that part. There's a part of me that would be a victim very easily. I was beat as a child, my mom was a beautiful woman. I'm not denigrating her. When she put alcohol together with prescription drugs, she was crazy. And I was five, one in high school, believe it or not. I'm six, seven now. I told people the difference is personal growth, right? But I had a tumor in my brain that made me grow.

But I was just a little guy, she would slam my head against it. She put liquid soap down my throat because she said I was lying and I wasn't lying. And when the person you love most is trying to hurt you, you get to a number on your head. But I look back now and fortunately, I didn't let that stop me. And I didn't settle for that.

I struggled for a long time. I look back on it and I can honestly tell you, if she was the mother, I'd hope she'd been. Like if I was well fed, you really think I'd be trying to feed a bill, you know, I've tried a million people, and I'm trying to feed a bill, you know, I'm trying, I'm not a billion people, and I'm trying to feed a hundred billion people. You think I would be spending my time doing that if I was a well fed kid?

I don't think so. If she had been a mother I want, I wouldn't become the man I'm proud to be. Yeah. So those emotions are not you. They were a part of your past, they were a pattern. It's a pattern of what you do with your body and breathe. But it meets some of your needs to feel,

feel yourself or feel sorry for yourself or feel sad. Right. You follow me? It's like a self what you do with your body and breathe, but it meets some of your needs to feel yourself, or feel sorry for yourself, or feel sad. Right, you follow me? It's like a self-pity thing. A little bit, but what you're really wanting is not self-pity, you're wanting self-love. You just haven't learned how to give it to yourself. My way of doing that is gratitude,

because when you're grateful, love flows naturally. Is that a common pattern that sometimes, because I noticed over like a couple, about two years ago, I noticed that I, one of my biggest addictions sometimes was self-pity. I didn't realize it. Yeah. I thought I was helping myself by like focusing on myself, but really I'd been too, I was

feeling too pitiful. Yeah. I didn't, it was, man, it was, I realized my alcohol was self-pity any time I didn't. Also, alcohol is a depressant. Mm-hmm. So what's going to do is, low, it feels good in the moment, but then it lowers your energy and your blood sugar, everything right? Same for self-pity.

Same thing. Now your energy, think about it. Self-pity, if you're in self-pity right now, zero to 10, 10 is total high energy, zero is no energy. Where are you in self-pity? Where would you put it? Oh, two. Yeah.

Where are you when you're feeling excited? Where's my energy? Zero to 10, yeah. My energy when I'm feeling excited is like a nine. Yeah. Which one do you want to be? I'd rather be the nine. Yeah. I'm the fuck one.

I should do that. I know. Yeah. I think you, but I think you said a lot of it is padd and I think that's the thing. And a lot of people, I think you don't notice when you're in self pity, man. I had no clue. Like I was still living a life and it was going well and it was going, but there was just a lot of times I was drinking my own self-pity, you know.

And I don't feel like I do it a lot now, but there's times where I can fall back into that. So if you do, just like, if you do, it's like, oh, I'm going to self-pity, you don't beat yourself up, you just go, that little pattern. I don't do that shit anymore, let's get out. And the best way to get out is go for your run,

do something physical, or shift what you're doing, or focus on doing something for somebody else. I mean, you love? Any of those things will get you out of your mind. Because here's the biggest problem. All these words you're using are just forms of suffering. Pain's part of life. Suffering you've heard as an option, it really is an option.

But what happens is when you focus on yourself, there's always suffering. There's three things that'll trigger your suffer. If you think three words, loss less never. If you think something you did caused you to lose or have less of, or never have love or respect or free time or financial freedom or anything. I think that's my one. I think I feel that something was something I did that made it that way. Yes. And by the way, some people do the opposite and some people do both. They look at what other people did, what the government did,

what this person did, what some system did, something outside themselves that makes them believe they've lost something or we'll never have something. When you think loss less than ever about yourself, the mind, you're not your mind. It's like all the fudge you ever thought, I wanna kill this mother F, I've never had that thought. Yeah, I don't do it, but I do think it.

But you just, the key is you don't do it. I don't do it. Do you think that's your thought? Are you the first person to have that thought? No. How long do you think that thought's been around? Probably since the Bible I've been. Probably before.

Yeah, maybe before. So, if I told you a hundred years ago, or can't kill the able in the Bible, that's why I said there. Yeah, that's good for me. But yeah, and also there was definitely people killing each other before it. But check this out. Think about this for a second. That thought is not your thought. You're being used by that thought. If I said a hundred years ago, there's going to be a little box in your pocket and you can pull it out and you'll be able to touch it and see people on the other side of the earth because there's invisible waves going around the

earth and it's going to come in your box. You go, the read between the lines, that's all right. It's not going to happen. But think about it. Or there's invisible waves going around the earth and it's gonna come into your box. You gotta read between the lines, asshole. All right, it's not gonna happen. But think about it, or we're gonna fly to the moon and back. We used to call the people who said that lunatics. That's where the term comes from. People thought we could go to the moon. Well, we've been to the moon

and you now have a phone that does those things. Well, thoughts also have been around forever. And think of your body as like cable. You turn one channel and it brings down a signal of comedy. Another channel, it's a horror picture. Another channel, it's effendrama. Another channel, it's adventure.

And so when you drop your body of this, you get a different channel of what you see feeling tap into, then if you're like this or whatever your state is or giggling or laughing and shit, then you get a different channel. So the pattern of how we use our body determines what part of the thoughts we tap into. But the biggest thing is you're gonna be pissed off

or sad, at least get a unique thought when you created. Don't just copy everybody else, every other asshole that ever lived. You're just copying it. Change your body, change your life, change your story, change your life. So you've already begun it. You've gone through the chemistry of being dissatisfied,

enough to say I'm not gonna do the drugs. I'm gonna start to run now. I'm not gonna like in this feeling, but then you get pulled back a little bit because it's new. Your old stuff you know well. And so you gotta just cut it off. And again, you could do that through immersion.

I'd love to have you come and buy one of my events to be my guest and just have your own experience. But regardless, you can still do it on your own just by changing the habit, changing the habit, you change it enough. It's like the more you go down a path, the more it gets wired. They did this at the UC Irvine. They took monkeys. They taped four of their fingers down.

And then they manually went in the finger like this 10,000 times. Well, now they untaped the finger of the hands and what does the monkey do? No kidding. Well, you're not a monkey, but many people drive to work the same way every day, get on the same subway, and one day they're supposed to go a different direction, get off of a different off-ramp,

but their brain's so used to it, dig it off on the wrong off-ramp. Well, that's kind of what you're doing. You get off on the off-ramp of some old pan. And so what you gotta do is stop going down that path. So I'd do it, stop it, stop. So what they found, by the way, you don't have to do 10,000 times.

Imagine they found they could do it with 12 of these, instead of 10,000, get the same wiring. And the way they did it was, they stimulate the pleasure center of the brain. So it's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And each time they did it, imagine instead of one thread of connection between neurons in the brain,

nerve cells in the brain, one, instead when there's joy there or excitement or pleasure, you get a thousand of them. So they could do 12 and get the result without emotion. I get the same result of 10,000 movements. So we wire ourselves, like you can, change yourself to what you're saying. Because some people, you don't even notice it though.

That was amazing to me. For years, I didn't notice that's what I was doing. And that's the part of growing, right? Right. I'm 43. Right. So, you know, most people when you're thinking about this way, zero to 21 is like spring time. You don't have to figure anything out. You learn, you grow, things occur.

You might have problems and upsets, but, you know, it's in industry life. 22 to 42. You're kind of the soldier of society. You go out and test what you've been like. I don't know if I believe the shit I was told. Let me try this. You think, by the way, you're kind of the soldier of society. You go out and test what you've been like. I don't know if I believe the shit I was told. Let me try this. You think by the way, you're invincible. I'm the president of the United States,

I'm multi-billionaire, I have 100 relationships simultaneously and everyone's gonna be happy. But somewhere around 35 or 40, you know, 45, you start going, you know, relationships are hard. I'm not very good at this shit and I'm not a billionaire yet. Well, what's the deal here?

And so then you have to go on a journey. The here's journey. You're being called to go into the unknown and try new things. And if you step into the unknown, you'll meet new mentors, new people. You'll learn to slave a dragon. You'll become the heroine your own life. But ages basically 43 to 63,

that's the reaping time of your life. It's not a year, though. This is when you're coming, brother. That's the stage of life by the way, when people've been working year, this is when you're coming, brother. That's the stage of life by the way, people are the most happy, right? If they're healthy. And the very happiest is usually 64 to 84, if they're healthy. And people can live 104,

all those people are 120. But each stage has different problems and different opportunities. So you're entering your power. And it's showing up, right? You got a large audience, your, your humor has become more playful, more refined, but now you're like,

I want more, I want me to be happy. Look at comedians that have killed themselves. I mean, we can make a long list of people that made everybody happy except themselves. Oh, when you all, yeah, people think of Robin Williams, Brody Stevens, those are just a few. Yeah. And there could be a bigger list. I'm not a good at thinking of what's- Oh, she, all those guys, you can look back and look further, few. Yeah. And there could be a bigger list.

I'm not good at thinking of what. Oh, she, all those guys, you can go back and go further, right? Yeah. So if you think about it, if you make everybody happy about yourself, I always tell people, success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure.

And so you're starting to go, look, I want to be fulfilled too. I don't want to just be successful on the outside. I want this to be inside me. you're on the path, brother. The way you get on the path is you decide what you want and you've been going to decide. I want more than what I had before. Second step, you say, okay, there's a gap between where I am or where I want to be, what's getting in the way.

Is it a fear I need to face? Is it a habit? Is it an emotion? What is it? Is it a skill I'm missing I need to get? I don't know how to do this, so someone's gonna show me so I can get better. Once you face that, you get a little plan together.

You start taking action, not a perfect plan, and then you gotta slow your dragons. So you gotta make the change, you gotta okay. So I'm not gonna do the drugs anymore, okay? I'm gonna run instead, and then you get momentum, and you're starting to get momentum. So now the only, the break on your momentum is those old emotional patterns.

So you gotta go, that's not me, that's an old pattern. F that, here's what we're doing now. And here's the other part though, as long as you focus on yourself, you suffer. See, suffering comes from focusing on you. Wow. That's why contribution is so valuable. Because we're doing something for others.

You're not thinking about you unless you're trying to do it to get something. Right, and a lot of people had to focus on themselves because it was a survival mechanism. Me too. So they didn't have a choice. That's right. So some people, you don't even realize it.

Your whole life, you might be focusing on yourself and you might think, well, I'm selfish, but some of that might be just old habits because you had to focus on yourself to make sure you were okay. That's right. But then what happens is we don't update our software. Be like a user, one of those old, you know,

digital or not even digital phones, you'd be like, what are you doing, you and Adia? Oh yeah, using a pencil. Yeah, I mean, what are you doing? It's like, I'm just having a murderer. Oh yeah. Yeah. But it's time to upgrade your software.

And that's what you're doing. You're upgrading your mental software. Yeah, and there's some law. I think there's, yeah, there's a little bit of sense of loss with letting go of the old software because it felt like home. Yeah, exactly right. And it's like, I'm old enough, I had one of the first portable phones.

It was this motor roller phone you're ever seeing. Like, it pounds, it was like a buck a minute. It didn't charge for more than 20 minutes, you know? We just call the police, too. You know what? But I was so proud to have that phone. Now, like, you know, I meant staying, till I meant staying, it would call him. Was he in the police to. You know what? But I was so proud to have that phone. Now, like, you know, I meant staying, to I meant staying,

it would call him. Was he in the police? Yes. Okay. If you give, if you give, if you got a phone today, they'll give it you for free as long as you got a contract, and you got everything on you got 100,000 songs,

you got access to everything. So why would you go back to the old cell? I kind of miss it. Okay, we'll go get yourself on those phones. You can go visit it, go put it in some party and you can go visit for a little while if you want to. But after a while, you get bored with it

and you'll move into the new stuff and that's what's happening for you, brother. Yeah, once you evolve into something new, yeah, once you make a change, it really does feel good. It's just hard to make it sometimes. But I'll tell you one more secret. For changes to last, it has to become your identity. Let me explain.

We all have a way of defining ourselves to ourselves. So for example, if you see Lance Armstrong, right? He was the greatest biker of all time. He gets told that he has cancer, not just cancer, cancer as long as cancer in his brain, and oh yeah, in your testicles, oh by the way, I ride a bike for a living. It's always gonna die.

But his core belief is I always find the way. So he survived cancer. Most people don't. He also found a way to win no matter what. He broke the rules to do it and that cost his brand and so forth. But the same thing that made him healthy actually got him into trouble in the biking side. But before he used drugs, he was still unbelievable, one of the best in the world. And guess what?

He got there because of a belief. So you have to have a new identity. His identities I find the way made him belief. So you have to have a new identity. His identities, I find the way, made him healthy. So think of it this way. If I set the thermostat in this room, and I think it'll relate to this, let's say 68 degrees. Okay.

All right. And that's a metaphor for your comfort zone, your identity. This is, you know, that's 68 degrees. There's not much money on what, but what I'm used to, 68 degrees is what I'm used to in a relationship. It's not what I want, but it's okay.

That's pretty good. It's what I know. So think about it's comfort zone. Now if the temperature drops to 65, 64, 62, 59, all of a sudden, the brain, the computer goes, hey, you're 68 degree, what are you doing at 59? I'm true experience, this is bullshit. And it's like, boom, suddenly the haters kick on and you got drive and you go deal with it

You go lose the weight or you get off the drugs you do whatever it is But here's the part the most people are a stand Let's say you get back to where you were and now you get new momentum and you're doing better you got a 69 70 80 89 99 degrees and all of a sudden the brain goes what the hell you doing up here? You're a 68 degree you know're not a 99 degree here. The first thing that happens is the heaters stop and you stop growing. And if that's not enough,

the air conditioners kick on and you start to sabotage yourself to get back to where you believe you are. So cigarettes, if you used to smoke, right? So if I came to you today and I offered you a cigarette, what would you say? Yeah, sir. You'd say, what?

You're nobody, no, sir, no no sir, no sir, no sir, no sir, nobody, okay. So why? Because I don't want it. Yeah, why? Because I don't, doesn't make me happy anymore. Yeah. Most people, if you wouldn't say, what brand is it?

You go, no. And the reason why is you're no longer a smoker, it's not your identity. If you thought you're a smoker, you might go, well, what brand is it? Well, maybe I'll have one, you know, whatever it is, right? It's like when people tell me,

you know, I'm on day four of not drinking or not smoking, I'll go, well, how you counting? So you can tell people how many days you last this time for you to go back again? It's like when you change your identity, I'm not one of those, you're not gonna do it anymore. So you are in the midst of transforming your identity. You're in the middle of it right now,

and you're doing a beautiful job. I'm not, again, blowing smoke, I'm not a bullshit. I think, man, I'm a bullshit. No, but I hope you take it in because you need to own that on your own, your own instincts have led you to a place of real progress. You're not there yet, not where you wanna be. And by the way, when you get wherever there is,

it won't be enough, you'll wanna do more because we're all supposed to keep growing. That's what makes us happy. Yeah, I want to keep learning, I think it's important. And I like learning about why people feel certain ways. That is like, and so does a lot of our listeners. It's important to a lot of us.

Yes. Let me tell you why people feel like that. A lot of us, we don't get understanding. Nobody kind of explains you what's going on while you're feeling, so it gets confusing you know so like yeah I don't know that I'm changing and I'm feeling sad about you know just that I don't know some of the stuff but let me give let me give you and your viewers three things because what I spend decades I'm gonna say you got a lot of things that is good I'm loving I got I got decades of taking complex things

and making them simple because complexity is the enemy of execution. It's too complex. You don't do it. Right. That's exactly what I'm just saying. Yeah. It's too. So let me give you three. You can think about this for you and your viewers. Whatever you're feeling right now, whether you're pissed off or sad or frustrated or excited or passionate, whatever, it doesn't matter. There's only three things that made you feel that way. Three patterns. The first pattern is what you do with your body. So let me give you an example. If I said there's a depressed person

by including number one over there and I'll give a $100,000 donation to your favorite charity, I bet you could describe them physically without seeing them. The depressed person, where are their shoulders? Probably down forward. Where's their head? Probably looking like probably maybe something like that. That's right.

Are they talking loud or quiet? It could be probably a little bit subdued like that. That's right. Are they talking loud or quiet? It could be probably a little bit subdued maybe. That's right, faster slow. Mm, probably slow. That's right. And when they're doing that, think about it, why do you know that? Because you've practiced a shit before we all have, right?

Yeah. But if you take that same person, and I do this over and over again, and you change what we call their physiology, the way they move, the way they breathe, put their shoulders back, they breathe different. It literally changes their biochemistry. If you change that as a habit, you change the biochemistry on a regular basis, better than a drug, because you're not dependent upon the second thing to determine how you feel.

So you're your own drug. That's right. And you're the dealer and the user. Exactly right. So if you're excited, what's the body like? Yeah, you're a little more pumped up. Yeah, you're high up or down. Up. Yeah, we're your shoulders. They're there. They're good. Yeah, they're loose. It's a different. They're doing them with what they want. That's right. But the voice monotone or does have more variety to it. Variety. That's right. Right. So you think about that, you're breathing more fuller, more shallow. More full. That's right. When you're depressed, it's more. Yeah, probably more shallow, except for some occasional big ones

to get you to keep you down there. That's right. Well, you let it all out and it's deflate, right? Yeah, yeah. So we change your breathing, we change your movement, change your posture, and your entire biochemistry will change that fast. But people have habits how they use,

like there's 37 muscles in your face. This is the largest air vent employment in the country because people do the same facial expression and they feel the same feelings over and over again. You change the body, you change it all. Now the second thing you change is what you focus on. So example I gave you, if you're thinking about, oh my God, they're not here, they're in a car accident, you're a warrior. If you think, now give a shit, then you did it again, you're gonna be pissed off.

So whatever you focus on, you feel, even if it's not true, you will feel it. And then the third one is the language you put to it. Cause words change meaning. So if I said to you, look, during the break, we have some nutritious snacks. The audience goes, you know, do we got some delicious snacks?

Oh, interesting. Just one word change changes the biochemistry. It's not the words other people say to you, it's also the words you say to yourself. Wow. They change your biochemistry. And it's not just words. There's certain phrases that change what you even perceive. So I don't know if you've ever had this when you're a kid, but I remember, you know, I find you get to sit down and have dinner and I was responsible for all of making that they're doing it all. And then my mom or dad would say, could you get the salt? Just I don't know what the salt is. And I'm not lying, I don't know the exact GPS location

of the salt, right? I don't know what the salt is. And you know what the salt is, then kid, you go get the salt. I know the salt, you go get the salt. Fine, oh my God, what am I saying man? I don't know the salt is, I don't know what the salt is. It's over on the second shelf, I open it.

I don't really look at it, I don't know what the salt is. It's not here. My dad walks by, he reaches right in front of my face and goes, what is this? You ever had experience like that? So here's the question, did your eye see the salt? No. Yes, they did.

But your brain did allow you to perceive it because you hypnotized yourself. I over and over again, telling the lie to yourself, I don't know what the salt is, I'm a saltist. I just don't want to turn you into a liar, so. So it's called a scatoma, a blind spot. So when you tell me, I don't want to lose those friends of mine from the past that

made me feel like shit. You did it over and over again. You can't even see the other option. That's why our language, our focus and our physiology, the three of them together control. If you make a little change in your body, you'll feel a little change in how you feel. But for example, sound. Did you like to sing when no one's around? Oh, not that much.

Not a great singer. No, I'm not either, but when no one's around, like in the car, great songs Did you like to sing when no one's around? Oh, not that much. I'm not a great singer. No, I'm not either, but when no one's around, like in the car, great songs, something like that. Sometimes, yeah. So some people that most of us don't sing well, so what happens, we're in the car, we're singing, we're rocking, we're rapping, right? You get the spot, you're still doing it.

Look over the car next to you, somebody's staring at you. You pick up yourself or not, quite keep talking to somebody or something. Yeah. But what's happened is it makes you feel good to sing because you're using parts of your body you don't normally use. They lift and lifts you emotion. And so what happens is that's why even though you don't sound good, people like to sing

when they're around, but when something's around, they don't want to sing because they want to be judged. So you can change your focus, your language, and your physiology. Wow. If you change all three, you make a radical change. So when we do like a seminar and they have the fire walk, the fire walk's just a metaphor for breaking through whatever stops you.

But when you get in front of 2000, you be burning hot coals, you have a state change. Like all day, you might have found really good. And I'm like, oh my God, do I get, do I get, do I get, do I look at them and go, I can do it either if I talk like this and put my shoulders like this. I say, stand tall, put your shoulders back.

Scream, yes, yes, scream, yes. And I make these, yes, yes, it's a go. And then boom, the person couldn't go 10 seconds ago, storms across the fire, because what we do is based on the state rent, and you can change your state by the way you move, by what you focus on, and by the language you use. Change all three radically again and again,

you change your life. Wow. Tony man, thank you so much for thinking about this stuff with us. I know that you have, before you go, I know you have a book that's coming out, The Holy Grail, right? Yes.

Okay, we pivoted that for five minutes. I love to. Okay, so I know it's about finances, right? Yes. And it's about the disparity in the world, kind of? Yeah, well, I don't want to- I've written three financial books. This is the third one of the trilogy.

Final of the trilogy. Okay. And the first one was Money Mastery Game. It's most, most, most, most, most, most, most successful financial book of the last 23 years. I'm really proud of it. Okay. And the first one was money master the game. It's most, most, most red, most successful financial book of the last 23 years. I'm really proud of it. Wow.

But as time were by, I wrote that book by interviewing 50 of the smartest financial people in the world and saying, how do I take this complex stuff, make it so my billionaire client will have it, but the average person can really use it. And it shows you how to go from nothing to where you want to be. Then I wrote a book called Unshakeable

to pair people for 2020. I didn't know it was going to be COVID, but I knew there was going to be a want to be. Then I wrote a book called Unshakeable to pair people for 2020. I didn't know it was going to be COVID, but I knew there was going to be a giant market change. Because you can predict that it's going to come. We don't know when, but it's going to come. And I want people prepared. And then now there's so many people unprepared for their financial future that they're in the hole.

And so in order to get where you want to go, you need compounding. With a tiny amount of money compounding, you get wherever you want. Like, if you start when you're really young, you're 19, you say, you have no overheads, say 300 bucks a month and you put it, you know, let's say on the stock market, where it's an 8% return, you can go from 17 to 27, you put very little money in, right? 3000 bucks a year, roughly. But that money will grow over time to provide several million dollars if you stop to 27 years

old. You started 28 and do it. You got to put money until you're 65 and you still have less money. That's how compounding works. Right? So it doesn't make a lot. But if you could compound with a higher rate of return without taking too much risk, because you take too much risk, you lose everything.

Right? And is that higher rate of return still? So it feels like there's not as much, it feels very risky these days, or it feels like the stock market, like it's just a front facing thing to the public where everything else is done behind the scenes. I think that's what a lot of stuff starts to feel like.

Well, and there is some truth to that because there used to be 8,000 stocks. Now there's only 3600. And most of that, like in the rest of 2000, which is one of the you know the young companies 40% aren't even profitable. We look at what's called the S&P 500 the list of the top 500 companies in the stock market there that S&P lists those are the best ones. There's about seven that are represent about 80% of the profits of what's going on there. So it's a very small number. That

has changed over time and we didn, used to people used to, in order to protect themselves, if you went to financial planner, they'd say, well, put this much in stocks and this much in bonds, because there's something called correlation, or non-correlation. When things move in the same direction, if you invest in both of them,

and they both go down, you got nothing. If they both go up, it's nice, but when they go down, it's a problem. So I met with this man, Ray Dalio. Some of your viewers may have heard of him. Ray Dalio? Ray Dalio. He's the greatest hedge fund investor in history. He manages almost $200 billion in business. Oh, wow. And I interviewed him 14 years ago and became good friends. And I asked him a question one time.

This guy's a genius. He literally manages the money for countries. And he's got the greatest track right, like 2008, when everybody with a market, went down one of the 38% whatever the number, I forget the exact number, he was down 3%. And by the end of the year, he made 9%. Good job, man. I mean, just brilliant guy. So I asked Ray, I said, what is the most important investment principle

that the average person or a billionaire would want to know what's made you so successful, the most important principle? And he even has to, he goes, Tony, I spent 20 years to figure this out. He goes, I'm going to tell you the answer. And he said, it's called the Holy Grail, right? He goes, the Holy Grail of investing is defined eight to 12 investments that are not correlated. So let me explain.

Stocks are designed to go up and then bonds where they are. If stocks go down, bonds usually go up. But in 2020, they both went they are. If stocks go down, bonds usually go up. But in 2020, they both went down, 2008, they both went down. And so that doesn't always work. And so you've got a lot of risk. He said the secret is, if you can find eight to 12 investments that are not correlated, you reduce your risk 80%. Wow. And you increase your upside. There is nothing on earth that's more important. You can try to pick the right stock or the right bond or the right piece of real estate, but you're going to be wrong. You're going to try and do the more important. You can try to pick the right stock or the right bond or the right piece of real estate, but you're gonna be wrong.

You're gonna try and do the right time. You're gonna be wrong. The one thing you can count on is reducing the risks so that you're right more often. And he said that that reduces the risk about the most. He's eight to 12 investments. Eight to 12, they're not correlated. So what are some examples of just places

that things wouldn't be correlated? Well, that's why I wrote this book. Cause I got it. The average person thinks, okay, well, I got stocks and bonds and maybe your reats are real estate. The problem is, even reats often will go up and down with the stock market, right? So, I've been around a while, I've worked with the best

people in the world and I've done well financially and so I get opportunities at times because I'm well aware of the fact that private equity, private real estate, private credit are actually much bigger businesses. For the last 35 years, here are this for everybody. For the last 35 years, private credit are actually much bigger businesses. For the last 35 years, here are this for everybody. For the last 35 years, private equity firms have done better than every stock market in the world on average, better than average of all those. So, for

example, the S&P 500, the one that most people know in the United States that they, you know, will invest in. If you put that, that's over the last 35 years has gone up 9.2% compounded on average per year So you put your money in and he keeps growing. It's pretty nice doing pretty swell Yeah, but if you are average not in by the way when I went to interview people for this I interviewed the 13 biggest private equity guys in the world that run 100 billion dollars, right? Who make more money than than God basically the smartest ones So to find out what they're doing because these guys all make like 20% plus per year, not 14.5.

So 9.2 versus 14.2. 14.2 is the average private equity. These are not average. That's 50% better per year to grow your finances on. Let me put that into what people understand when you compound with that means. If you put a million dollars, 35 years ago in the stock market, it's worth 26 million right now. It's unbelievable.

But if you put a million dollars in private equity, it's worth 129 million, same money, same amount of time. God, yeah. So it's like, so, and so most people know, they don't know that much. Yeah. But they know private equity is really well. And one of the reasons is,

your money's tied up for five years. So if the market goes up and down, they don't have to go sell. So when the market goes down, they buy, right? And they build a company, they buy a company, they build it up, they make it more valuable and they sell it to another company or they take it public. And when things are good, they sell them,

when things are not, they buy. So they've got a lot of room. And they make money a lot of ways. If you put your money into these firms, they get 2% of your money every year, no matter what, for managing it. Oh, wow. So they make money or lose it. So if they have a billion dollar fund, they make 2% of your money every year, no matter what, for managing. Oh, wow. So they make money or lose it.

So if they have a billion dollar fund, they make 20 million a year for five years. They have a hundred million dollars guaranteed before they open their mouth. Then they get 20% of the upside if they help it to grow. It's not uncommon for these guys to go from a billion to two billion in five years. That means they make 20% of that additional billion. They make another 200 million dollars. They make 300 million dollars on what originally was a billion. So when you look at the Ford's 400,

the richest people in the world, they say, are they tech guys? Are they real estate guys? No, the number one of financial services, it's private equity. So watch this. This is mind-boggling. Because this sounds like it's all for rich people.

That's what I want to tell you. Okay, I'm just saying that. So, no, and you're right. And it has been, but here's what's changed. Congress, the House, just passed a law bipartisan that said, the richest people in the world having access to this is not fair. And the argument has been, well, it's more sophisticated.

Well, they came up with a way to do it, which is you made a man of money, money, money, building a business, you don't know about investing, but you get to make these investments if you can get in. They passed the law that now says, and now, the house has done it, Christmas vacation's just coming, they're coming back and they're gonna vote in the Senate,

it looks like it's gonna pass there as well. You can take a test, I can show you a study for, you pass the test, you can access to these things, but there's another problem, access. Because it's like buying an exotic car. If you got like a, you know, one of the new Ferraris, not a standard one, it's, you know, one of the high-end Ferraris, standard one, it's, you know, one of the high ends of the Ferraris. There's a line of people waiting,

they buy them all just like that. So it's not enough to have money. You got to know the right people. So these funds, you know, as I got more money and I was more famous, I knew people, I could get into some of these funds, but I could get a sliver or some I couldn't even get in there already sold out. I was like, I'm so frustrated. So one day I'm talking to my friend Paul Thuder Jones is a partner that broke off of started his own business. I was basically saying, this is so frustrating because these opportunities are so huge. I've got resources, but I can't even get in.

Yeah. He said, Tony, I'm gonna tell you a little secret. I'll tell you where I put most of my money. And I'm leaning forward because this is a big, big player, right? Yeah, yeah, get this. That's level, huh? Tell me, tell me what it is. He goes, there's this company in Texas that does something really unique.

There's a few, but they're the best I've seen. It's in Texas. And normally here Singapore, London, New York, right? Oh, yeah. You can edit it. It goes, yeah. He said, Tony, you don't have to fight to become an investor in one of those funds. He said, when you are an investor in a private equity, they call you a limited partner.

That's the legal name that you support. Okay. The owner of the fund, and private equity just explain what it is really fast. It's buying companies that are not public, which is most companies. Right. And you build it, they put money in it,

they bring a new CEO, they build a new team, they do a new marketing, they make the company stronger, and they sell it. When you sell a business, you get a multiple on the profits. Okay, God. So you're investing in those sorts of things. That's private equity. That's right.

And they have funds that invest over a period of time. And they do that. So they're not open to the public. Well, they're open to the public, but usually they're gone. If they're really good, they're really gone. They're gone, right? Right away, right? So he says to me, he goes, Tony, you can become an owner

in the business itself and all those funds, not just own a fund, and you can get the same two and 20 Like you earn the two percent and 20 you'll make about 10% on your investment per year as an owner Oh wow and you get all the funds past present and future the ones they did was low inflation the ones and high inflation the future ones They want to do I'm like how do you do that? I'm going to do some of these guys called CAC, either based out of Houston. So I meet this guy. It turns out 25 years ago he started his career

using my stuff and started this business. He's been incredibly successful. He's one of the biggest, it's called GP Stakes. You own a general partnership stake. You're an owner. You get the benefit of an owner and you want all the funds. So I now own a piece of 65 different funds. They're not little funds, they're not billion

other funds, they're 100 billion funds like VISTA, they're 100 billion dollars. And they're growing like weeds. And I get huge income, like I'm an owner, and I get the upside, like an owner, and I get what an investor would get all the same. And then you say, well, why would they do that? Are they wanting to retire?

No. Years ago, they used to just get companies and try to leverage them and sell them for pieces. That's all business. Nobody does that anymore. They build them. But they have to put their own money in too. So investors go, if you're on the line with me, I'm going to invest more. So there's a company called Bane that after 2008 when people were shaky, they said, we're going to raise $4 billion, but we're going to put 800 million of our own money in. That's kind of the standard now.

So if you're putting money in, you open a new fund every couple of years and it's tied up for five years, your cash flow can be tight. So they want more money to keep growing. So if you know the right people, you can do things. So now I'm a part of that, but anyone can become a part of that.

Although ignorance is not bliss, right? Ignorance is poverty. Knowing this changes the game, I'll give you another one. So people are gonna learn that in this book now. I'd explain exactly how to do it. Okay. And then I know one, like all these rings, right? For years, I wanted, you know,

I wanted to be a professional athlete. I wasn't good enough. So I didn't work out well. But then I was like, wow, I got to work with all these athletes and turn them around. So the best in the world, you know. Yeah, I get to visit the guy like Tom Brady. You know, go with all these guys,

you know, see what they're like and what they're doing. Well, I start turning these teams around and I start getting the championship rings that I would have. And I've got him here from hockey. I've got him here from NBA. I've got him. If you're all like your dreams came true in this all. And I'll hold away. I mean, how many people like Michael Jordan, a few other people have six MVP rings.

I got six rings. He didn't anyway, especially if it's a man, you know, it's a man. You know, unless they're 100% out yet, but they're cherishing me. But here's what I tell you. So then I was like, I want to own a sports team. You know, I finally got enough money to participate. And I finally, you know, then they take a microscope to for a year to do it. It's unbelievable.

And so I helped build the L.A.F.C. football club as one of the original investors in it. It's great. But now there's a new rule that's come about in the last couple of years. It's unbelievable. And so I help build the LAFC football club as one of the original investors in it. It's great. But now there's a new rule that's come about in the last couple of years. It's specialized. And it allows you to buy a piece, even a tiny piece of multiple sports teams and be an owner. And the reason you want to do it is this. Sports is not tied to the stockmark. It's non correlated. Stockmark goes up or down. Doesn't affect sports. Sports have done well during recessions, depressions, player strikes, COVID, everything. They've still done well. The return from from Major League Baseball, from the NHL, from the NBA, and from soccer, those four spots. Keeps growing. It's average that 18% a year in the last 10 years. So it's twice as much as the stock market to give you an idea and it's fun

But here's the best part They're no longer is putting butts in seats and they have a legal monopoly They can they own that city no one else can compete with them and their fans or word fan comes from fanatics Their customers are fanatics multiple generations. So my friend Peter Goober He bought the Dodgers, my friend, Magic Johnson, a group of other people, and no one had paid, he paid $2 billion in the language, $2 billion, no one had paid a billion for a team yet.

And everybody said, it should have been a billion overpaid by a billion, so I went to Peter and I said, Peter, I know you're no dummy, he's my partner in businesses, we own sports team together, the LFC, and I said, you gotta tell me the secret, because I know you're not dumb. You're not gonna overpay by a billion dollars. That's a lot.

He says to me, he goes Tony, you know, he's made 52 Academy Award-Made movies. He said, total genius. So he said, you know, I'm not dumb, you're right. He goes, how are you? What? I wanna leave you in suspense. I'm gonna make an announcement in two days

and you call me, come on over and we'll laugh together. So sure enough, two days later, they announced you paid two billion for the team. He sold the local TV rights for seven billion dollars and made five billion instantly. No way. Then you get to the soccer. That's for football. I'm excuse me for the early Dodgers. Oh, for the Dodgers, he sold the right. Yeah. So seven billion. Now you also, when you're on a sports team, the NBA, MLB, Major League baseball, whatever, you get a piece of the ad revenue for every single team. Doesn't matter if you're big or small.

So his local rights are made in five billion. So you probably saw the gentleman, he just brought on a bit. Sheratonny. Yes. Sherhay, is that his name? Sherhay, yeah. And he is.

And I'm sure, sure. The amount of money that he's paid. The amount of money's being paid is more than anybody in history Wow, and how are they doing it? Well, they're doing it because they know that the ad revenue they get from Japanese Advertisers and so forth a pay at times many more do you know if you watch television today because of court cutting nobody wants to watch commercials So 92 of the last hundred top shows are sports because you don't think about making a film for Netflix like a series, you gotta pay actors, you know. Oh, that's cool, you set up your cameras, you shoot,

it's cheap to do and people are willing to watch because it's live and then they'll watch the ads, just like Super Bowl, right? You watch all the ads. So that business, and they buy the real estate around it, they become media moguls. So now I own the Warriors, I own the Dodgers, I own the Red Sox, I own the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Because you have a piece in what? Which I teach in this book. It's a piece of these different businesses, these sports businesses, and it's non-correlated. And people can get into that. So you gotta do it. And you can do a tidy amount, small amounts. I'll give you one last one.

Bonds, you're probably not very familiar as you have done a lot of research here. You called him, what did he do? Oh, not what he's talking about. No, I'm talking about stocks from bonds. Oh, sorry. Yes, no problem. But bonds for years because of low interest rates

have given you no return. So people take in bigger and bigger risks. So back in 2021, you're making no money. So there's a type and bigger risks. So back in 2021, you know, you're making no money. So there's a type of bond that is not very stable. It's very risky. And they call them high yield bonds. They're actually called junk bonds because they're very risky. They were paying 3.9% in 2021 before the interest rates rise. And people were buying them because there's no other place to get income. I was making 9% on private credit. What is private credit?

Yes. Banks don't loan to a lot of people. Really high on businesses, 100 million to $3 billion businesses need money to grow. Well, where do they go? They go to private credit now. These organizations now loan you money and they usually loan it, you know,

just a few years ago, it's like 5%, 6% for a loan. So banks are borrowing money from people? No, companies need to borrow money from banks, and banks don't do it, and Apple will get their money. Somebody will like that. Right, but a lot of business won't. There's 200,000 business in the United States between 100 million and 3 billion to give you an idea.

Right. Gigantic, they need money. So there's become a new market. It's these private equity guys loaning the money, but they put their own money in it. So they don't sell the loan off. So they are really picky about who they put in, and they build a good, long-term relationships.

They have less than a 1% failure rate. No bank on Earth has that. They'd be dreaming about that. They're, though, you know, if you, I'll give you an example of the media audience can relate to it. If you had a house, you had a mortgage that was fixed. When interest rates went up, you don't care. It's only 3%. But when you bought a loan on a business, it's usually a floating rate. So when interest rates go, it rises up. So those same private credit

firms that loaned you money at 3.5%. Guess what? Excuse me, 5 or 6%? Now it's 11% plus. The same loan with the same company and you're making twice or three times as much money as before. So when people are taking risk to 3.9%, I'm got a 1% failure rate and I'm making 9%. Now I'm in the high teens on my private credit. And I own those firms. So I also get the 2%, I get the 20%

and I get the upside on those pieces. So those are just three examples. I give you seven examples of industries that you can do and show you the upside on those pieces. So those are just three examples. I give you seven examples of industries that you can do and show you exactly how to do it. And then the second half of the book is these 13 masters of the universe. These guys that, you know, like Robert Smith who runs Vista, it's a famous firm, $100 billion in business. He started with nothing. He's the wealthiest African-American in the United States. Genius of man, I love this. Oh hell yeah. And he, he focuses on one industry and software

as a service called SAS. But he knows it so well that he can take a company. You already knows what to do with CEO, what to do, how to grow it. He grows it rapidly. He has got his whole system for doing it. He grows the business and then he sells it to a bigger company or takes it public. His returns, I can't quote his returns because you have to ask him doing it. He grows the business and then he sells it to a bigger company or takes it public. His returns, I can't quote his returns because you have to ask him about it, but they're all above 20% for decades. For decades.

So think about what that would do to your financial future. Well, what it would take and say 10 years to double, you can do in three years. And so this isn't the only thing you do. But it's one of the most important things that most people know about and it was never available before. Now it's available. So you're saying because it's one of the most important things that most people know about. And it was never available before. Now it's available. Because there's a new legislation, a lot of this stuff is available.

That's correct. And is there downside to it? I mean, there's risk with everything. That's right. Well, at least, amount of risk compared to bonds less. Okay. But then the second other than say, Treasuries on the private equity side, again, since they have your money for a longer period, you get a lot larger return. But there's less risk. The reason there's less risk is because

when things drop in the stock market, they don't have to sell. They go buy then, right? When things are up, they go sell then. So they have more room to play within time. Instead of, oh my God, what are you gonna do this quarter? Where are you gonna get the stock up this day? They don't have to do that. They can allow us to make better decisions.

Got it. They had, I don't know. Anyway, we give a hundred, my last three books I've done this, they're giving 100% of all the profits in the book, go to feeding America. So while you're helping yourself, you'll help people that are really in need as well. Same for this one, the profits are going to that.

100%. Oh, that's amazing, man. Thank you. That's cool, man. I eat, you know. So I know we're all grateful for that, you know. Can I get a copy of the book, too? Of course, I'm glad to see you, man.

Yeah, of course. There's like, this is my last question. So there is, we're kind of at a time in the world where I think a lot of people are under a little bit. It's a precarious time it feels like, right? And a lot of uncertainty. Some of that may be the media influence, some of it may not, we don't know,

but there's just a lot going on. There's a lot going on. And it used to feel like you could leave the world a better place, right? It used to be something that I think gave people a lot of purpose, right? Like I mean, I want to leave the world a better place. And I think now there's sometimes feels like

the world has gotten, it's flared up and we can't do that. I'm not saying that's true, but sometimes it feels like that. And so I think that causes a lot of people to, it really takes away a sense of purpose at a level, probably almost limbic or animal level that we don't even realize.

What can people do to combat that? The first thing I do as I would cut down my consumption of the news, turn off all the things that go on your phone, not to be about hermit or something, but you gotta remember that these people are good people. They don't have bad intent, but they have to do one thing, they're doing their job, their job is make more money for the shareholders.

There's only one way to do that. Get more of your eyeballs. I don your eyeballs upset you, anger you, produce fear. If I do those things, we all know, in journalism, they talk if it bleeds that leads. It used to be, again, a plane crashed in Nigeria, you didn't know about it. Now, you know about it within seconds. So, there's actually all the study shows. There's less violence today, but we see everything more magnifying, right? We're also in a stage in kind of history. We go through stages.

I don't want to try to be complex, explain all things to you, but if you study a thousand years of Roman history, 500 years of Anglo-American history, we go through 18, 20 year cycles where we run an emotion as a culture, as a whole. That doesn't mean you're going to feel that way. So in the spring time, everybody's optimistic. I don't mean physical spring. I'm not that season, right? And things grow and it's easy.

So like after World War II, we went in spring time. Everybody's like, oh, thank God it's over. Everybody had lots of sex. That was the baby boom, right? Oh yeah. You know, if you were a veteran, you got to have a house for free. Right, no one would be down, nothing.

It was a cool time for a lot of people, not everyone, but a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. The culture, right? But then from 1945 to 1963 and 1963, we're the height of optimism. Kennedy is the president, John of Kennedy, and he gets assassinated and then Robert Kennedy,

and then Martin Luther King. And what happens is we go through a summertime where everything's tested and there's fighting within the country. There's it's called summer. It's like it happens every 80 years like clockwork. I can take you. There's a really cool book. Is it a Strauss Howe generational theory?

That's it. That's it. You guys got it. So if you read Strauss Howe about generational theory, there's a book called the fourth turning. I envy these guys. Fourth turning. Fourth turning.

It's a book worth reading because what you'll be reading about how life is, and it's like right now, and then they reveal it from 80 years ago, from the New York Times. And then you'll be another one, it's from 160 years ago, and you're like, this is crazy. So it's a cycle that we go through.

So after we're done with the optimism, we get burnt out, we go through the summer of tasks and upset, then we have another good time, we have fall, where everything's easy. You wanna house, you have no money, we'll give you a loan, right? My buddy. Easy, easy. We have fall where everything's easy. You want a house, you have no money, we'll give you a loan, right? My buddy.

Easy, easy money, right? And everything's easy. Then that's always followed by a winter. Now, some winter's the long, some are short, some are hard, some are relatively easy, but you never go from fall to spring. You've got to go through winter, right? We're in winter right now.

So think about it. The people that were grown up and tried this for size. Most people don't cite their history, but just take this for a second. If you were born in like 1910, what did that mean? Well, World War One was going on while you were growing up. So you were protected. You didn't go to war. You didn't have to face it. Your family looked out for you. It had been a tough time, but you made it through it. And when the war came home, right around that time, like now is a massive technology breakthrough. Like we're experiencing with AI and so forth. What happened? We went from nothing to radios,

televisions, cars, planes, like, and the roaring 20s. So if you're growing up and you're in that zero to 21, you were born in 1910, you're thinking, when I'm 1920, I'm getting a car, I'm going to party. And the kids then were looked down on, they're called flappers, because they were irresponsible. They're most flappers, because they were irresponsible. They're very much like older generations often talk about millennials or sea generation, because millennials and generation are great people, but they haven't faced anything really big. They think violence is words, right?

You know, Chris Rox is viewing violence are words. No one slapped the shit out of you on national television. That's violence. That's a different thing, right? So, but you've never experienced anything, you think that's paying, is that your idea of paying, right? So they're right about that, but I have no worries. These are gonna be the heroes. Millennials and Zs are gonna be heroes in the future.

Here's how I know it. 1910, when they turned 19, and they thought they're gonna go party, what happened was 1929, and the whole world was upside down. Suddenly people jumped out of building, standing in food lines, and Midwest is a dust bowl. Stop, market crash. Everything. So these people had to get tough. They were a week of shit, but they had to get tough because it was required to survive. So by the way,

they do 10 years of the depression. It's not bad every day. There's some ups and downs, but pretty rough times. A lot of soup. A lot of soup. That's good. But now they turned 29. It's 1939 and that's when World War II breaks out and you and I weren't alive then. But Hitler was taking countries one after. It looks like we're going to lose. They fought that war in one. They became what's known as the Great Generation, the greatest generation because they face these difficult things.

Well, at the end of the winter, it's spring time. At the spring time, once we got through that, the wind threw a hot summer. Think of how the 60s and 70s are so different than the 80s, 90s or 2000s. And so we go through these cycles. So we're in winter right now. And winter makes it look much worse than it is. But here's the good news about winter. It's going to take that younger generation. And they're going to become heroes. They're smart. They're connected. They care. But they're not as strong as they will be because they have it. It's like lifting weights.

You take a lightweight and lift it. I don't care how many. You do a hundred curls. You're not going to get anything. You take a weight, you can barely lift and do, you can only do eight curls and your trainer makes you do 11. And that 11th curl gives you 90% of the growth. We're going to go through that experience.

We already are to some extent, but people need is to create a compelling future. They need to know that this went, no war is forever, no economy is forever, no pandemic or pandemic or... Like get addicted to the story, don't fall in, that's a trap. That's right. So you also have to have a plan for yourself.

And you can see that like if you were the universal God after the night you create the day, you know, it's like, that board of works. And that's what makes us grow. And winter also gets rid of the week and strong, not only survive, but they fight a way to thrive. When you look at the biggest companies in the world, the proportion, 1000, 80%, excuse me, 70% of them were developed during a recession or a depression.

Because when you do well then, you're going to do well during all the other seasons. So if you start a business right now and it's hard, if you do it well, like I started my business during the last really tough time, which was when interest rates were 18%. Now, they were really that? 18%. I'm not lying.

Today, people are freaking out going 7%. Oh my God, I can't get a house. Try, I bought my first house at 18 years old. It was 18%. You're not gonna make any money at 18%. I lost money out of the house. It was horrible, right? But that's what it was in those days.

But I had to get strong. And here I am 46 years later. And I've done very well. Well, a lot of other people started when it was easy and they're gone. Yeah. Wow, so that's good. It's a good way to look at it, man.

I think it goes back to you when we said the meaning of stock kind of about perspective, you know? Yes. Like have a perspective. Have a bigger perspective. Yeah. Have a bigger perspective of what's going on in your own life. Um, man, I don't think there's anything else

you guys think of anything. I think we've spent a lot of your time too. And we're great. I really enjoy this, yeah. Yeah, me too. And I really, I love your humor, but I really want to thank you for your vulnerability because I got a lot of people watching you

and you're leading a example. They're not being perfect about saying you're supposed to. I'm not humor, but I really want to thank you for your vulnerability because I got a lot of people watching you and you're leading by example. I'm not being perfect. I'm not saying you're supposed to, I'm not perfect. Nobody is. But you're growing brother and those emotions you felt, you're going to feel those little lot less as you keep on this track. Pretty soon, they won't be something you identify with. It'll be like cigarettes. You're like, by the way, do you feel bad about the cigarettes that you no longer are there with them? You've left them behind. I don't miss them. Yeah, you're not going to miss those negative emotions. Yeah, it's like I go like, you know, go like just, you know, do like, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Or use a Ouija board like to talk to a pack of winsons or something, you know? Yeah, I don't do anything like that. I'm glad to hear that. But thank you, man. Thank you for taking some time and to just help us learn about that. Because I think a lot of my listeners are really similar to me. And so I'm grateful for that.

And I hope they joined because it's free. I've got, oh, that's, you know, 25th to 27th. Yeah. And, um, all they got is go to time to rise.com, time to rise.com, register, no cost to it. And then it's about three hours a day for three days in a row. And you'll be blown away. Well, it'll give you a new momentum for your new year.

Did I'll say this. Sitting, listening to Tony is really, really interesting. Even just being here. So if this is anything, what it's like at the summit, it's cool, man. So yeah, I'm excited about it. Man, January 25th to 27th. My good friend Aaron Levy goes, has been to a couple of them and time to rise summit. And we'll put the link right here below guys.

We'll put the link everywhere and we'll share it. So five million, about a million, a million half people will do it from all over the world, 195 countries. She'll meet some cool people too online too. It's just kind of fun. Cool, man. Well, thank you for first of all just learning about stuff

over your life, but also being on the moon on the share it. I think when we don't share stuff, it keeps things from other people. So it's been, I think a lot of people have been helped by that and so thank you so much thank you yeah cheers brother Corn and stone But when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of my life I found I can't feed it In my bones But it's gonna take