This Past Weekend - E509 Luke Combs

Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's guest is an award-winning country musician and songwriter. He's out of North Carolina and has gone on to become one of the biggest names in entertainment. He has a new album, Fathers and Sons, which is coming out just before Father's Day. And I'm thankful to sit with him today, my new friend, Mr. Luke Cone. And that's galvanized, isn't it? It is. Yeah. You can just, you can really hear the nails go across it. That's how you know it's, it's got rivets inside of it, you know?

Starting point is 00:01:00 Make it sound so good. That's like redneck ASMR. It's like, you know, there's just some dude who woke up in his trailer and he just, he's trying to quietly eat the leftovers without his wife here. Hold on. There is a guy dude. And don't ask me how this comes across my feed, but it's like day 600 of me spraying dog medicine on my hands till I can strike a match off my knuckles.

Starting point is 00:01:24 And I'm like, why do I care so much about this guy striking a match on his knuckles? But dude, and at the end of every video, dude, it's him. And at the beginning, he'll go, now there's a sensory nightmare at the end of this video. And it's him going, and it's like his sandpaper ass hands, like going in the mic, dude. It's, dude, it's worth it. Here it is, dude. We've got it's worth it here it is dude we've got it up here it is dude we got one on my hands in order to make this care it is tougher don't forget to like share I always good at it the dog medicine

Starting point is 00:01:56 blowing like champagne I went to the doctor today and asked him about tough food he's sand in the wood with his hands, dude. Oh, wow. My guy is for real. He's real. He's an instrument of the Lord, brother. Here's my question is, what's the end thing? Like, what happens at the end? Like, halfway is there a two?

Starting point is 00:02:18 Here it is, dude, dog medicine. Oh, wow. Now, what is the dog medicine? What do you think the real function of that medicine Get some can we get some audio on this guy's hand? Brother Jack us into some of this guy's hands. Oh Wow, so this is a gentleman you can't see him at home guys. This is sort of a Ruben ask gentleman who is Making his hands rougher and then the sound is tainous. It really is

Starting point is 00:02:49 And then he just rubs them together Yeah, he will probably be the president Here is he's trying to strike a match dude and He was striking a match on his knuckle now. He can strike a match on his feet, which is Which is feet in and of itself. Yeah. But it's, it's wild. God. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:10 I met you at the, we had a guy one night that came to a show and he's like, Hey man, me and my cousin, we love you and look at him. And he goes, he's missing 70% of his skull. Right. And the dude had a cool thing though, where if he like put his finger in his mouth and went, then the other part of his head would kind of show up. Yeah. That happened.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Pikeville, Kentucky. That is wild. You don't need all your skull to party over that. Dude, people are fascinating, dude. Oh, we had a guy, we used to have a really great, I don't wanna say homeless guy, but a guy who had, who was just kind of hadn't been home probably in a decent amount of time.

Starting point is 00:03:54 Unhoused. Yeah, I would say unhoused. I think that's the, right, yeah. Yeah, and he, yeah. And he, but when he's smiling, he had a couple of his teeth in his hand, I guess they'd fallen out or something, and when he'd smile, he would still make the shape and he would show you the teeth

Starting point is 00:04:09 You know like He just had him he just keeps that was kind of his party trick. Yeah, it's helped me out Like dizzy do you think he's like need money for veneers? Oh, I don't know now. That's the thing Here's the teeth that I need. Yeah Just approve. I'm actually missing these teeth. Just check my work here Yeah, people are just interesting I mean dude even like the places you'll stay like I stayed at a place Yeah, they're not like sometimes we'll stay at some pretty nice spots and sometimes You know, it's just a like an outdoor, when the doors are on the

Starting point is 00:04:45 outside, you know, that you've arrived at a certain level of establishment. Yeah, that's and there's nowhere to go but down from that. That's the top level of that. Yes. When there's doors inside and then as the doors get more and more open. Yeah. I went to, we checked in one. It's God, this had to be six years ago.

Starting point is 00:05:06 And we, it's like, you know, we played a show somewhere, Columbia, South Carolina. And then we had a show in the Outer Banks the next day. This is like van and trailer, no manager. It's just me and the band. Like, I'm trying to check into the rooms and stuff. So we drove from Columbia. We were supposed to play a tailgate at Clemson the next morning.

Starting point is 00:05:24 So we're trying to like get that in, make extra like $800 me and my guitar player and then get in the van and go play our show. So we drive from Columbia to Clemson a couple of hours, you know, shows over at like 11 or 12. Yeah. So then we get to the damn hotel. It's, you know, two in the morning, checking all the rooms. I get all the bangers in the rooms and I and it's one of these doors on the outside.

Starting point is 00:05:45 And I go to my door, door's open dude. It's already open. It's already cracked a little bit. This door's already talking shit. And the lights are on in the room and I'm like, man this is probably good. So pop in that room dude and there must have, it looked like the cicadas came out of the room. Really? It wasn't cicadas. It was every bug known to me. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:10 Cause the doors are on the outside. It's been open for at since checkout, which is at least 12 hours, dude, with the, all the lights in the room on go to the desk and I'm like, Hey, I like, I'm, I'm an easy guy, but I can't sleep in a room full of bugs. And they were like, Ooh, we don't have any other rooms. That was the last, that's the last room. But there's nobody in the parking lot. No, there's nobody there. Well, it's more of a extended type. Oh, I see what you're saying.

Starting point is 00:06:40 Stay, I would imagine. Yeah. If they have a blender in there that's extended When there's anything to cook with you've reached another level Yeah, another level of hotel. Yes some hotels. There's one time. I remember I called down at the front desk I was like, hey, do you guys have internet and the guys like let me check and I'm like Let me see hold on haven't heard that. I'll get back to you. But then I hear him. He's actually clicking it up on the computer. He goes to Google. Do we have internet? Google search.

Starting point is 00:07:16 It just, dude, one time we stopped in Lexington and I went in to check in and it was kind of during the pandemic. So people were kind of on their wits end here and there. And you'd see people wearing neck braces for no reason, all types of stuff. People didn't know what was going on. Assorted medical devices. Yeah, it was very assorted medical. And this dude, I go in there and it took him forever,

Starting point is 00:07:38 but he just found out there's a room. And I was like, is there anything I can do to expedite this? And he's like, I'm sorry, sir. And then he goes, you know, I used to be in a wheelchair and I was like, he used to be, well, that's the thing. It's like, he's not currently in it. No. And it wasn't like I was just out of a wheelchair, like work with me here.

Starting point is 00:08:00 You know, it was just like throwing something from the past. Yeah. I had a broken arm at one time. Yeah. It's not currently broken, but it was. Yeah. Excuse me. Did he give you any kind of it? So he's making an excuse for just you trying to yeah. Hurry him up. There's no reason to hurry things here. He's like, Hey man, give me a fucking break. Yeah. I used to be in a wheelchair. I used to be in a wheelchair I was like I used to be in the fifth grade We can't Doesn't really matter that you used to be yeah and keep the chair

Starting point is 00:08:32 Oh, if you if you still are in a well, like if I notice see somebody wheelchair I'm gonna be like what can I you know, I'm gonna work with you here I'll even sure, you know, I'll even take a ride with you or whatever But like if there's somebody who's like, yeah, I used to be or, you know, but anyway, nice to see you, man. Yeah. Yeah. We fired right into the dog medicine hands guy fast, dude. Dude.

Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah. That's some of that though, stay in different places. I mean, it's, it's, it gets, it gets easier to, it's easier to rough it when you're younger. Dude, for sure. Well, once you haven't not roughed it. Right. It gets easier to rough it when you're younger. Dude, for sure. Well, once you haven't not roughed it. Right. Like when roughing it is the only experience,

Starting point is 00:09:11 which was, that's what it was forever, dude. I mean, in the van, you know, the 15 passenger van, it's like. Oh, you had that long boy, huh? The long, yeah, man. But when we had back roads out and it's all the gear. Oh, yeah. So it's less than 15 seats.

Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah. But there's like six guys in there, all these amps, guitars, like it was a mess, dude. It was truly a mess. Yeah. I feel bad for some people now though, like I think of like, let's say you're a new artist and let's say you have a song

Starting point is 00:09:42 that blows up on the internet or whatever. And then you're just thrust into like This really like official version of yourself Even if you're maybe not like ready for that Oh, I see we're saying even if you just have one or two songs like you can have something blow up so hard online That you have to get a label and all this stuff and you it's not that that's sick, dude I'm glad that people have the capability to like, to achieve that for themselves now.

Starting point is 00:10:09 Cause that was something that wasn't really achievable up until like maybe seven or eight years ago, I think. But you miss so much of like all those good memories from like the road and like when it sucked and like playing bars and nobody's there. And all my like favorite stories, man, from like my music career, a lot of them are from that time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:29 Like from the like unofficial days, you know what I mean? Like there's no like the, like an unofficial biography, dude. You know what I mean? It's like, it's, those are the days, but I feel like people are missing that a little bit. Yeah. Like if you just go right on the tour bus, dude, like there's no strife, like that's all you know. It's a good point. It's kind of like catch one hit or one like melody

Starting point is 00:10:52 that really like catches fire on social media and then you can be opening up for someone. For sure. And then you go, that's your first experience being on the road is I'm in a bus and I play in arenas. Which dude, that would be super sick. Right, it's amazing, but still it could set you up for some, uh, it's what happens when, when you start way up here and not that that's all the way at the top,

Starting point is 00:11:14 but if you kick past people that have been doing it for 10 years and then all of a sudden you're cause like in country, there's a lot of these like guitar pools and stuff where you like, like let's say there's three or four of us up here, we're all new artists, we're all playing for this radio station thing, whatever. It's like, let's say one of those guys makes it to the thing. Let me just paint an example of what could happen. You're a new guy or gal and you have a song that blows up and that's sick, dude.

Starting point is 00:11:42 I'm pumped for anybody that that happens to but all of a sudden you're at the same level of let's say in the vacuum of this story the new artist that you're up there with is Chris Stapleton. Right. And then you're sitting up there, you maybe have never met anybody you're playing with and they're like all right man this Chris guy's gonna go first and then you'll play a song after him, dude. And he fires into just the most singing ass guitar playing ass thing you've ever heard. That guy's played a thousand shows, dude. And you're up there going, I gotta play after this. And I have to do it five more times in front of all these people. And he's gonna just blow the doors off. It's like you've entered your Honda Civic that won a race in your neighborhood against the guy driving a NASCAR. It's like it's so hard to

Starting point is 00:12:34 compete against that. Yeah dude. Oh no doubt and your song has a dance that goes with it. And it's acoustic so the version where the dance is cool is not even the one you get to play because it's just you and the version where the dance is cool is not even the one you get to play Because it's just you and like some guy that plays guitar you met at a coffee shop, you know But do you think though it could be a sign of like the way that things will? Will be I remember when like because they're started I remember when vloggers came out, right? Yep, and there were people vlogging I don't even know what was going on and people and it was like people were trashing it

Starting point is 00:13:06 Yeah, people would people would trash it for sure But you would but those guys would sell out the the vloggers would sell out comedy clubs like around the country like people would come and they would do some do kind of Q&A with their fans and And so that kind of came out of nowhere and then I just wonder like if the future is more you know, right, like instant success, right and no judgment of it. No, I mean it's just the sign of the times. I think just from you know maybe in 30 years or whatever that's just like you're saying that's the only way it happens. Right, that's what I'm wondering. I wonder if things just evolve where that's the only way. But eventually like like, that thing will be monopolized by somebody.

Starting point is 00:13:48 Like, somebody will figure that out. It's probably already happening in some ways. Either, I don't know, the powers that be, whatever you want to call it, will figure out some way to make this thing. Okay, here's the formula for how you do this and how you break this thing. It's probably already happening a lot, to be honest. And here's how we do. We got a new guy. He looks fucking really cool. So here's this cool song. And then go sing this cool song, and that's cool. And then they're like, great.

Starting point is 00:14:15 And that guy's already signed this deal. And everybody thinks, what's the thing that people with the conspiracy theories, oh, that guy's an industry plant. Oh, yeah, that's the best. That's not really a thing, I don't think dude, like I don't think that's a thing. Especially in like, if you're like, in a look at like real country culture, like industry people would notice anybody that can button their shirt up corrected first time. Yeah. They'd be like, this guy's gonna be something.

Starting point is 00:14:43 Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh dude,'s our neighborhood. Yeah, if somebody had Gasoline people like look at this. Yeah, they're like look at this guy with his car Like oh you're working for the cops. That was the biggest thing when I was growing up was always accusing people of being narcs Somebody would get a new pair of shoes in be like, yeah Ronnie's a fucking narc Look at him. He's working with the man He's obviously an informant, dude, this guy. Yeah, dude. But though, man, it's definitely going to be.

Starting point is 00:15:13 But then it's like, where does it, I always wonder, where does it progress from there? Where do you like, when that's the new thing, what's the next new thing? There'll always be another version of what like what's the way to your path to like achieving your music dreams or your comedy dreams or whatever it may be like the path has ever evolved me. Yeah. Like I think really the first guy that in country music that used social media to his advantage was like Kane Brown and like probably me. Like the first guys that like came to Nashville,

Starting point is 00:15:49 we had kind of our own fans going on, like the internet helped us get fans. And then we came to town, it was like, well, these guys already got stuff going on. So, and I'm in no way like shaming anybody that does that. Because I was the first, one of the first guys that like, and I didn't even know I was doing it, dude of the first guys that like, and I didn't even know I was doing it, dude. Like I wasn't, now people are probably smart enough to like,

Starting point is 00:16:10 they're doing that cause they're smart. I was just doing it cause I was like, Oh, well this will kind of like, I was like, you know what I'm going to do is get all these followers and sell them my songs. Like there was never that. Well you started on Vine, right? You started, was that the social media platform? Yeah. And that's the thing too It's like you don't know where the next social media platform is gonna come right? This is a crazy thing and there's a lot of artists out there like man Maybe I don't find my way with this social media platform, but there could be one about to be invented

Starting point is 00:16:37 That's gonna be the one that's the next there's always something because what does it start with? It starts with my space, right? My space Facebook, Instagram, dude. Remember they also had like friends to that. Some other weird things that no tick tock. Wasn't it musical Kali musically? It was before only where people would like lip sync to songs. That was the only thing I'd ever seen. And I was like, man, this is a weird platform. And they rebranded and it was the hugest thing ever. Oh wait, was that where people would do duets together?

Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. No way. That was TikTok. That was the original version of TikTok was that thing. I had like a secret account there, like a Finsta account or whatever. And I would go and do these duets with these Japanese people. It's a lot of Asian singers on there and they would do, there was always duets and they would do it. There was always duets. You can do it anytime of the day with people from around the world. I mean, that's invaluable. Yeah. Music, musical dot L Y musically. Oh, that's a horrible name. So they, so they merged. So tick tock was another, I guess it's own company. Yeah. They kept the name.

Starting point is 00:17:45 When you have a B flat or whatever that is in your word of your name, dude, that's, I'm out. Yeah, yeah. Not great marketing there, dude. You know? Oh, I didn't know that too. Yeah. That was though.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Yup. Cause I remember when it came out, I was like, man, this is like brutal, dude. This is not gonna be, but they figured something out, dude. For anybody who had the app already musically It just became tick tock like I remember it was an old app on my phone. He had it then he was ripping Yeah, you were ripping duets. They pull up some of your duets Let's get those go let's be on popcorn lung in there duties

Starting point is 00:18:21 popcorn lung in there, dude. He's, he's, um, well now, uh, is it hard to make more? Is it hard? Like once you've had, you've had, uh, you've been real fortunate and had a great career, right? The luckiest dude ever. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean like that, I feel that way, dude.

Starting point is 00:18:41 Anybody who gets, yeah, it's like you get, obviously there's a lot of good fortune is going your way But I've dude I've thought this a million times. I thought before my last record come out before the one before that came out I'm like dude. This is like the best I'll ever be dude and like I everything I do from here It's just gonna be bad. Yeah, and it's like I don't know why like it's human nature to some extent Maybe I think it's yeah That seems normal. Cause then like when I put my last record out

Starting point is 00:19:07 and then the fast car thing happened, like that was so unexpected. Like it was not, never in a million years that I think what will be the biggest song of your whole career definitely wouldn't have cover a fast car would not have been on the list. Not because I didn't love that song, but like I really recorded it on kind of a whim,

Starting point is 00:19:25 because we had some extra time in the studio. And so sometimes those decisions can be the best decisions, you know? But I do think I'm like, man, well, you know, I mean, I'm sitting here right now and I could tell you that today I've at some point mulled over my, what happens next, or what's my next thing? And God's like, nobody cares, dude. And if I don't do this thing, then nobody's gonna listen. And I was like, bro, I'm gonna be playing for 120,000 people this weekend. And I'm still going, well, nobody cares, dude. Nobody wants to do anything, see me or anything.

Starting point is 00:19:58 And it's just like, I have to like remind myself all the time of like, if I try to have this conversation with myself is if I had the thought processes that I go over with myself in my head now, if I had them with myself 10 years ago, what would myself 10 years ago say? Because this will be my 10th year in Nashville in September. And so I go, man, well, nobody cares if I post this Instagram story and it only gets, only 150,000 people liked it, which is insane. And it's insane thought process.

Starting point is 00:20:33 Oh yeah, it's a lot of folks. But it's like, but you, that's what I think to myself today. And I base like, well, did this post, did it do good? And I'm like. And if you feel like it wasn't't then suddenly you're not good. 10 years ago, 150,000 people had never even heard of me before. Ever, dude. Like never ever.

Starting point is 00:20:52 And then again, I'm like, also I got two little kids at home and I'm like my oldest son isn't even two yet. Oh, so he definitely is probably still eating for free over there. Yeah, he's not pulling his weight at all. It's brutal. Guys gotta get to work, you know? I mean, it's time. They should have.

Starting point is 00:21:08 It's time. I love, I know there's a lot of play pins for children, but how about a work pin? We don't need a lot of work in there, but. It could just be like things that could be considered play. You know what I mean? Like hit this nail into this thing. Right, some, yes. But how do we get like chainmail gloves on so that they don't hurt themselves?

Starting point is 00:21:26 You know, like a chain mail mittens for your child. Yeah. So you can have a game of Thrones Halloween costume on that. Absolutely. How do we get chain mail on these children? Chain mail, chain mail children, dude. Dibs on that band name, by the way. Oh, that's a good name.

Starting point is 00:21:40 Chain mail children is sick, dude. Chain mail children is a good name. Yeah. Something on that, like, uh, like, like post-punk. Chain mail children is sick dude. Chainmail children is a good name. Something on that like, like, like post-punk. Chainmail children. Chainmail children, that's what I'm going to see tonight. Basement East, chainmail children dude. Are they playing tonight?

Starting point is 00:21:54 They're playing tonight, chainmail children, yeah. Oh damn dude, I heard about them. Where'd I hear about them? They come to the show, you heard about it on this past week. Oh really? And yeah, and myself. Fuck, was that it? Yeah. I don't know if that was it. That really? And yeah, and myself. Was that it? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:05 I don't know if that was it. That was the first reference to their career. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Yeah. I remember I went to, oh Marilyn Manson was the first show that I ever went to. What was that like?

Starting point is 00:22:20 It was scary, dude. How old were you? I was 16. They played in a bar. Oh, man., maybe I was 15 15 or 16 around there. You say they like The band or yeah, like is there a band is it like oh is Marilyn Manson? It's just him like no it's he has there's a band and stuff like I've never like I've never seen the show Yeah, is there a band? Yeah, like you can't really think of like somebody being behind that guy with a trumpet Like a march like a drum line.

Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, yeah. Who'd they have there? Twiggy Ramirez, they, I don't know who's still in it. Oh, so this is like, there's a whole, there's kind of a persona to the band as well then. Oh yeah, the whole band was like, I think Semi-Deceased or whatever

Starting point is 00:23:04 is what they were going for. Semiceased another great by the way we got a trademark all these dude semi-deceased open for chainmail kit chain mail children and there's mosh pit training if you show up a half hour early bro that was the best safety training yeah how to stay safe in the mosh pit, my buddy used to referee mosh pits and he would give him like 50 bucks a night or something. Wait. So is there a penalties? Like, is there laundry on the field?

Starting point is 00:23:35 Dude? Like, is he like, beep beep beep, but hold on, dude. You hit that guy improperly. It improperly. Is it like a bouncer situation? No, I think, well, yeah, he's just like, he was the guy that's like, but he, he Improper it improper it is it like a bouncer situation He's just like he was the guy that's like but he he wasn't like don't hurt this guy He was like just don't call him the stage. No, he was no away from the snow He was like once the mosh pit got going he would kind of cruise in and out of it kind of like keeping things cool

Starting point is 00:24:00 Whistle sometimes a little flashlight. It'd be sick to have a guy in there that's just like, you get a couple like lesser known UFC guys and you just kind of put them in the crowd and you're like, dude, just wreck people in there. You know what I'm like, if some guys out of hand, just, just, just flatline this dude, right? In front of everybody. Everyone's like, man, we should chill a little bit.

Starting point is 00:24:22 Yes. Just make you just become your own policeman. Yeah, this is it. Oh, okay. Oh, that guy didn't like some of the other guy's behavior. So that guy was in theory, what your friend was, what I just said. You go in and just jaw a guy and make an example out of somebody.

Starting point is 00:24:37 I love that, dude. What a gig, dude. $50? That seems underpaid for that thing. Yeah, I think, yeah, we probably, they might've been some fiscal discrepancies over there. Yeah. Dude.

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Starting point is 00:28:11 When you put out a new album, does it, how tough is it to like, cause like you know what your fans like, kind of are people that come to see you, have a general idea. For sure. And then do, yeah, is it spooky to like try and change that but also evolve for yourself and then like, who am I even becoming?

Starting point is 00:28:27 Like that sort of thing? Yeah, man. I think about that a lot, you know, going back to when we were talking a little bit ago, like what do you think about yourself or your career? What's next? And it's, I've always, I've always said this to myself was like, I want to like grow up with my fan base. Like, you know, if somebody that listened to me, that's been a fan of me, well, maybe it's been 10 years, dude.

Starting point is 00:28:48 I mean, I'm 34. So when I was 24, I just moved to Nashville. I did have some fans, not a lot, but some. And I meet people like, dude, I was a fan, been a fan since the Vine days, dude. You know, like I still meet people that say that. And so if you were a fan of mine then, let's say you were, even if you were 18, so you were six years younger than me. Well, now you're, you're not 18 anymore. You're 28. You know, you could be 28. You could be married with kids, whatever it is, like, you know, and there's a

Starting point is 00:29:15 huge part of me that, that I worry, like, well, will I age myself out? Like, am I, does anybody even want to hear songs about being a dad or whatever? And it's like, I hope so. But like, I also, I don't want to, you know, I felt like I could go get with, you know, I'm not the world's best writer, but I'm lucky to be friends with a lot of guys that are, I feel like. And so I could go get in a room with them and write, you know, something like Bearer Broke My Heart or, you know, When It Rains It Pours. Like I could try to recreate that time and time again. And I sometimes I like I want to do that because I selfishly

Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm like, well, that would make me this or that would give me another big song or whatever. But it's like, I've just been, like I said, I've got two boys that are under two years old, man. So my life is dominated by the thoughts of being there for them. And I want to be their dad first. So I had to write this. I had to do this project because it's the only thing that's

Starting point is 00:30:23 been on my mind. When I go get in the writing room and someone's like, man, let's to do this project because it's the only thing that's been on my mind. Like when I go get in the writing room and someone's like, man, let's write something fun, dude, and this up tempo thing. And it's like, it's hard to like get in that mindset because all the things I'm doing is like, do like grilling dogs and like, like playing in the kiddie pool.

Starting point is 00:30:41 Right, like, but it's hard to like get in that, like the mindset of like, you know. Yeah, you can't have tickled that kiddo and have it be like, you know. Chainmail children, that's one of their songs. Yeah, look. And this is gonna turn into fundraiser for kids who have been abused, maybe.

Starting point is 00:30:58 But it's funny that you say some of that, because I sat one day, I was sitting with this guy that owns a management company. For comedians, they own probably the biggest management company. He was saying, well, you want to grow up with your fan base. You know, you want to, because they're going to evolve. And if you just stay like this, like, not stay,

Starting point is 00:31:19 but if you're kind of a, you know, they... If you fail to evolve, then... Right, it could be, you're just, you're not going to... Well, it can become stale. It's like, it just becomes, they, they, if you fail to evolve, then you're just, you're not going to, it can become stale. Yeah. It's like, it just becomes, okay, man, well I've, you know, I mean, except for the one guy that's eating 10,000 Big Macs or whatever it is, you can't eat it every meal, dude. I mean, not that they're not good, but you want a little something like the menus got to expand a little bit. Yeah. And not that you can't come back to the classics at some point. Oh yeah. My mother would always get a McFish. I remember

Starting point is 00:31:51 McFish and it, it always is that the pre-filet of fish. The second she ordered it, I was like, I don't even know her anymore. McFish. That crazy dude. Yeah. I didn't know they had it. She did it to kind of be like, she was evolving with her fan base dog. You know what I'm saying? Like she was learning new stuff. Yeah, you're learning new flavor of the week dude. He's a McFish guy. You know what I mean? But she would like get us to be quiet and then she would order the McFish and I'll be like, nobody cares. If we're loud while you order it it's

Starting point is 00:32:27 not gonna make us any not poor it's the people at the window will think we have class if you guys aren't screaming while I order this McFish you know I mean that right there yeah that is exactly who my mother I. That is exactly who she is. I've never been able to put it in words. You damn kid shut the hell up. Let me horse make this right now. And it's like little- Yes. Yeah, little Theodore will have a,

Starting point is 00:32:55 he'll have a junior children's meal. Yeah. And I'll have. Yeah. Unless she would get everybody out. She's definitely not a shit ass who stole a bike last week for sure And I'll have a McFish

Starting point is 00:33:10 Like that was the class he they're like now is that wild caught or is it farm raised? I'll take blackened the blackened McFish. I'll have fish. Oh yeah, blackened. Oh it's wild caught dude it says no chance dude that it's wild caught. It does, hold on. There is no chance. Well Luke now give them their chance. Look Luke this is probably legitimate information they have a JPEG with it. Our fish sandwich recipe features a crispy fish filet patty. That's the interest. Filet patty is a weird term. Filet patty? Complete contradiction, dude, right there. That's like saying, dude, this ribeye steak, that's now a hamburger though. But it was a ribeye steak at one point. Yeah, this filet mcnugget is really up good. Yeah. It says wild caught Alaskan pollock on melty American cheese and is topped with creamy McDonald's

Starting point is 00:34:10 tartar sauce. Wow. Next guest for the show needs to be a guy that works on the McDonald's fishing vessel. Yes. How to like, because we need a little bit of. The McCaptain. The McSkipper dude.

Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. We need the Mccskipper dude. We should get to the bottom of is it really like, can we find the guy that caught my fish? Is he, he's out there, dude. He's out there. He's in Alaska right now, dude. I don't know if he's in Alaska. Salty dog dude. They caught that McFish dude is out there now.

Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't believe that the guy's ever been to Alaska. Wild caught dude, wild caught though. That's the part I'm not sure of. I don't even know what we've talked about so far. But it's about father and son. I know you have some new children, right? Yup. And I know your family moved here. I remember hearing you talk before on Joe Rogan that your family had moved to Nashville.

Starting point is 00:35:14 To town, yeah. How's that been? It's been awesome. I mean, it's been an adjustment for them. You know what I mean? We, most of my life lived in Asheville, North Carolina. So. It's fun, the Orange Peel, we played there before. Yeah, I love the Orange Peel, most of my life lived in Asheville, North Carolina. So it's fun to be that orange peel.

Starting point is 00:35:25 We played before. It's a great place. That whole town is just, and also the hillside, you could like just roll off of a building and ended up in a damn different County. And it's, it's, but it was an adjustment period for, especially my dad. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, all his buddies live there. Yeah. You know, but it's, I remember a buddy of mine telling me,

Starting point is 00:35:49 you know, I think it's just, you know, it's the, like this whole dad's project is just all these different thought processes that happen with, you know, excuse me, the way my dad sees things and the way that I see things now and the way I see things, maybe what was his perspective when he was doing this with me, or what are my kids gonna think about me,

Starting point is 00:36:11 or how am I gonna be remembered by them? And I remember a friend of mine who wrote on this project with me, he was telling me, it was his dad's 70th birthday recently, and he called his dad, and he was like, well, you know, old man, how's it feel? And he said, well, ain dad and he was like, well, you know, old man, how's it feel? You know, and he said, well, ain't no way around it pal. This is the ninth inning.

Starting point is 00:36:36 And I just remember being like, God, like what a thought, like what a, like, and it was just like, I remember like ever, I've never forgot that quote. And because, you know, I think that a lot of the struggles that my dad had come in here, or it was a combination of like, okay, well, he's moving on from, they lived in Asheville for 25 some years, dude, in the same house. They raised me there and all these memories that are left behind and friends that are left behind and everything that you know has changed and then also coming to terms with the fact that you yourself are aging and kind of like,

Starting point is 00:37:11 maybe that fear of what's next or how long do you have, like I can't imagine what that process is like, but that quote stuck with me. Did your relationship with your dad change after you had boys, you have two boys? I have two boys, yeah. And yeah, man, it became you know I had a lot more I had a lot more understanding and grace for you know decisions that that he made or you know

Starting point is 00:37:37 things that maybe I did that I didn't understand well why is he upset about this thing or why would this make him upset like right know, and I've had friends in the last couple of years that have lost their dads and watching them go through that. And it's just all, it's just this constant theme of like, that's where we are in life. Like we're at this weird, like kind of turnover point where like people begin to lose their parents.

Starting point is 00:37:59 And then you are, like soon you will be the oldest man in your family. Yeah. Which is a scary thought, even though it's only 34, but like, you're like, okay, well, if I'm 40, am I like, I'm the oldest generation of maybe man that my children will know. Yeah. Hopefully. It's a weird thought.

Starting point is 00:38:22 You know, it's just like, it's a strange, strange time for sure in a good way, but it's just. Yeah, there's so many little phases you go through, like you, you know, you could be a son, a brother, an uncle, a dad, a grandpa, you know, there's all like these little roles and stuff that you have. And yeah, getting older, like almost all my friends have children except me. I was like, I got to get some damn children, but you can't just be yelling that off your back porch You know yeah, so you gotta actually have a game plan too and get a spouse that would be a good strategy for sure Be a good start for sure. You know be a good start Good jumping off point. I think you know um what were some of the songs I listened to? Front Door Famous, that's awesome. Yeah, I love that.

Starting point is 00:39:09 That one made me really feel something, you know? Yeah, I love the whole thing, man. It turned out, I cut the record live, so it was just, we just cut it on the floor, like me. Two different sessions, one evening we cut five songs, the other evening we cut seven. And so when you say cut it live, what does that term mean? So we would just, let's say we're in a room like this,

Starting point is 00:39:30 and it's almost set up like a show in the studio, and then they just hit record and play the whole thing down, and that's what you're hearing. We did that twice for each song, and then they went, okay, well this one's better than the other one, so that's the one we're using. It's just there's no like when we normally make a record, you know, it's not, it's more of a timed.

Starting point is 00:39:52 So like, I think you'd have to fact check me on this, but like, I don't think in some ways that Stapleton gets the credit he deserves because he records all of his records like that. Wow. And it's so hard to do that, dude. Like you have to be, the artist has to be so dialed in. Obviously the musicians are unbelievable anyways. Like those guys. That's just one take. That's it. Yeah. Or, or, and if you mess up, it's like, well, we got to do another take now. It's not like, there's no stopping and starting. There's

Starting point is 00:40:19 no mixing and matching. There's no mixing and matching. It's all just top to bottom. Like, you know, and I would do every record if I could, like that I enjoyed that process Mixing and matching. There's no mixing and matching. It's all just top to bottom. And I would do every record if I could. I enjoyed that process so much because the stakes feel high. Right, it feels like it just means something. Hey man, I gotta bring something to this take, dude. It's not another sing this line six times and then if you. Package it together.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Right, so it separates. And I mean, with the Stapletons of the world like it separates the like the you know, the the strong from the weak like if every record had to be recorded like That a lot of your favorite artists would not be recorded. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like it just it takes such a level of Talent and I'm not saying that I have that I don't want to sound like that but When you look at the criticism of the world and the other people that do that and I mean the studio that I have that. I don't want to sound like that. But when you look at the criticism of the world and the other people that do that,

Starting point is 00:41:07 and I mean the studio musicians deserve so much credit, dude. I mean, those guys are wicked, dude. I mean, it is unreal how good those guys are, man. Yeah. Such an underappreciated person. I've never been a studio musician, but it looks insanely hard. Yeah, it's really hard.

Starting point is 00:41:21 And it's a lot of the best people in the world, really. I would say, yeah, a lot of the best people in the world really. I would say, yeah, a lot of the best musicians in the world live in Nashville. I mean, without a doubt, and not just country singers. We're talking bass players, guitar players, drummers. And it's like a lot of them are guys that unless you live in that super niche community, like you've never heard of. Some of the best drummers in the world,

Starting point is 00:41:42 you've never heard of them, but they play on every record that you've ever listened to. I know know it's kind of wild, huh? It's really kind of wild the limitedness that we usually know about like the people on stage a lot of times Yeah, like the behind-the-scenes guys dude and even like my guys in my band like they're not even the guys playing on the records What? Oh cuz you use a different group to session players are a whole different thing than the studio guys. Not that those guys couldn't be both if they chose to, but most of the best session players are just session players. I mean, they go into there, I'm talking, you would just blow your mind.

Starting point is 00:42:17 Like your favorite drummer's favorite drummer is a session player. Your favorite bass player's favorite bass player is a session player. Your favorite bass player's favorite bass player is a session player. And those guys are just under thought of. If you go look at the credits of any country album for the last 10 years, like who's playing fiddle or who's playing dobro, it's the same three, four cats. Any instrument, I mean there's three, four guys of any instrument that's like that's the guy you call or that's the girl you call. There was probably year round doing it, huh? Every day, they're doing it every day. God, I mean, God, we should have gotten

Starting point is 00:42:48 into a different trade. Those guys are, they're wild, man. That's what I'm thinking about. You're so good, dude. Yeah, so yeah, I guess being like a parent, it's like you get to see like where all your parents, like just things that they didn't do or that they couldn't do, it makes a lot more sense.

Starting point is 00:43:04 Parenting. Yeah, I mean, there's so many things where you go, you know, you think when you're a kid, right, or my mom or my dad did this thing and I would never do that. Right. I wouldn't ever do that to my kids or whatever. And you know, sometimes those things end up being like, yeah, man, I still would never do that.

Starting point is 00:43:20 And sometimes you go, oh, now I get. Why we had to do that. Why they did that thing, it makes a lot of sense now. Like to me, it unlocks this some, at least for me it did, it unlocks some part of your brain that's inaccessible in some ways. Like once the kid that's happened, dude, it's this whole new level of like caring about something

Starting point is 00:43:42 or loving something that's like, it know, it's not the same way you love your wife or your husband or whoever you love. It's a different kind of thing. And you were shocked it was that new, huh? Yes, dude. It was just like, you know, cause you hear- It was like a whole new cord or something. Yeah, like all those cliches, dude.

Starting point is 00:43:58 You hear about, well, you wait to how fast it goes. And you know, you just, you're gonna find out like all that cheesy shit is so true. Yeah, when it rains, it pours. know, yes, you're going to find out like all of that cheesy shit. When it rains it pours. Right. It's all true, dude. Like all that stuff makes so much sense.

Starting point is 00:44:11 Like when, and all their cliches cause they, people say them all the time because they're true. Yeah. And it really is, it's really been a wild experience. The juxtaposition too is weird. Like, cause I'm on this tour right now and people are like, and it's no fault to anybody, but they, a lot of people don't really know what touring is like.

Starting point is 00:44:31 So they kind of assume like what it was. Why do you ever see your kids? You must be gone all the time. And I'm like, dude, I'm home more days a week than I'm gone, or the same amount. Like I'm home like three and a half days a week, I'm gone like three and a half days a week than I'm gone, or the same amount. Right. I'm home three and a half days a week. I'm gone three and a half days a week. So that's more than most people that work 40 hours a day

Starting point is 00:44:51 get to spend. That's a good point. At home with their kids. So I get to, but it's such a weird juxtaposition to go from you go out, let's say fly to Phoenix or wherever, and you play two nights in the same stadium, dude. And the next day you're home, dude, and you're just dead. And there's nobody there.

Starting point is 00:45:10 I mean, we live in a two bedroom, two bathroom house that's 2,100 square foot, dude. Yeah, and the kids are what, general admission? Yeah, they're GA, they don't even pay. Well, they just, no, they just get in free. Kids eat free, dude. Oh yeah. So they just come in and just take the place over, dude.

Starting point is 00:45:24 That would be the best tour you could have if you had a kids eat free to call you. So they just come in and just take the place over there. That would be the best tour you could have if you had a kid. But dude, sponsored by Ryan's buffet or golden crow either one. Oh yeah, that would be the best. And they should have a contest to what's the farthest somebody can hum a McNugget in and another kid catch like a, like a beer Olympics, but it's buffet Olympics. Just a McNugget. There's something so American about seeing a McNugget go through the gear.

Starting point is 00:45:51 You have McNugget cannon. If you could jam like a hundred in the t-shirt cannon and just blast McNuggets out into the crowd. Dude. Everybody's just catching them on their. It'd be some good slow-mo shots. It's like that kiss cam with a McNugget. But dude, that's how it's going to get.

Starting point is 00:46:10 I think if people, if it gets so bad where people can't afford to eat or whatever, then they're going to be like, the concerts will be events. Yes. Food will be how to get people to events. Got it. A hundred percent, man. That's the thing you're going to need. Yup.

Starting point is 00:46:24 Pay for the show, Stay for the food. Yeah. You know what I mean? Can you even imagine what a huge buffet would be like at a fricking... In a stadium? Like if it was every kind, like the world's longest buffet, you know, is it like, it just snakes through the whole floor. We're yeah, let's bring that up. Where's the world's longest buffet? Okay. Let's take bets. All right.

Starting point is 00:46:47 Whatever you think. I'm gonna guess probably in like a Midwest, somewhere in the Midwest. Okay. I'm gonna guess. I don't know, by the way. I really don't know. I'm gonna go with a little bit more of the orange Midwest.

Starting point is 00:47:00 I'm gonna say China, I think. World's longest, so world's longest. World's longest because they are buffet Is longest or largest is that different? Oh, what's a good question? Biggest Pennsylvania dude, wow not It's is it Midwest. I think it's upper Midwest feels Very Eastern Midwest really it's lower Dutch. I know it's in

Starting point is 00:47:22 It's very Eastern Midwest. Really? It's lower Dutch. I know it's in 1962 under maple trees, Mr. and Ms. Henry Martin sold produce along the road. That was the beginning of the shady maple farm market, according to Shady Maple. The largest buffet in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Shady maple smorgasbord. Smorgasbord.

Starting point is 00:47:43 There used to be a smorgasbord in hermitage when i lived out there do you remember that place it was called and what is it is just a place to eat as much as you can it's yes well i think i i believe now this is big big english language god big vocab guy here but i believe smorgasbord means there's a lot of different kinds of food in one place But I believe a smorgasbord means there's a lot of different kinds of food in one place. Whoa, guy. That sounds insane. It's not like you're making stuff up. Literally knowledge.

Starting point is 00:48:15 Let's see what a smorgasbord. Self-service luncheon or supper offering a large variety of foods and dishes. Oh wow. From Swedish smorgasbord, a buffet meal. Oh, it sounds great. Yeah, that smorgasbord. So it's just Swedish for buffet. Yeah, it's just, yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:33 It's the Swedish version of buffet, dude. Yeah, why do they make it sound so crazy? Yeah, yeah. I feel like everything you wanna eat is just, even that word has all, it seems like it has a lot of calories in it Just smorgasbord. Um What uh?

Starting point is 00:48:50 What was your first car Luke speaking of your car song doing so great. Mmm. My first car I got was a he did a purple Subaru Outback Use why the lady my mom worked at got a new car and she gave my mom a deal on it. And it, dude, it was actually purple. They had purple. It was like a, it was a deep indigo. It was a deep indigo. It was much older than these versions you're looking at. These are way newer. This is probably a 2000 and maybe a 99, 2001, 2000 type model. There we go. That's the one, dude.

Starting point is 00:49:29 There she is. Ooh. That, I mean, that's about the exact car. That's beautiful. Now about three months after I got it, totaled it. Oh, come on, man. Dude, and it had, I'm talking about, I didn't realize how nice it was

Starting point is 00:49:43 because it had leather seats, heated seats. And was like but I was like dude. I'm driving around this like mom wagon, dude Wrecked it and then my parents that got me a $500 Dodge neon that had been previously totaled dude look up a 2,000 Dodge neon Base level no automatic windows no no automatic doors, carpet seats. Oh my God. It's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:50:08 Well, there she is, dude. Probably that fourth picture on the top. It was probably my mother about exactly what I was cruising. My mother got a Dodge neon and we used to, me and my brother used to go sleep in it at night. We go sit out there and sleep in it. And, um, it was beautiful. I would like to say that, but also, yeah, it is crazy how they will sell you

Starting point is 00:50:27 in this country, they will sell you a previously totaled. Yeah, this car has been destroyed. Somebody out there has my totaled purple outback right now. That's like selling somebody a dead friend or whatever. Yeah. Like. And they're like, yeah, but he's like, he's all good now.

Starting point is 00:50:45 You know what I mean? Like now it's cool, but dude, that's in the past, bro. Yeah. His death was in the past. You have to give him a second chance. Going online without express VPN. It's kind of like when you leave your keys in the car at the gas station, when you just, I'm going to run inside. I'll just leave them in there.

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Starting point is 00:53:59 But there is no game. It's essentially just, hey man, like if you're in a group of people, you go, hey, if you do, are you garbage? There it is no game. It's essentially just, hey man, like if you're in a group of people, you go, hey, if you do, are you garbage? There it is. Card game. So we've, we've played this, but now we have a list going on our phone. That's like hundreds of items long.

Starting point is 00:54:15 As we played the game so much that we ran out of stuff. Right. And that said that tell people they are garbage, huh? So it's all Shane Gillis has played. Are you garbage? It looks like. So we have, I was going to pop in this. All it is, is really a conversation starter. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:29 Fodder, but all the ones we've come up with. Yeah, rattle off a couple of them. So it's really just, it provokes a conversation amongst friends. Mm-hmm. Let's see, like, okay, like you take a tour of a factory. Mm-hmm. Are you garbage? Ooh. Like it's, it's all just little things like that.

Starting point is 00:54:49 Great question. Where you're like, if you, let me see. I'm sorry. So because attempting to light a fart on fire. Oh, garbage. Yeah. If you're a woman, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:58 I think, I think, yeah. If you're a guy or an industrial engineer. Okay. Let's see what else we got. It seems like you might be one of the right brothers. I have no idea. I don't want to stop your fire, but, Ooh, uh, you're like,

Starting point is 00:55:14 but yeah, if you're a woman in your indoors, that's a like having crackers as like a topping on like a, like a casserole trash that's in bully trash. Yeah, dude. If you've ever crumpled up a couple crackers. And that's like your topping on top of your dish? Yeah, dude. If you have to... Also, if you use a lot of toppings,

Starting point is 00:55:35 toppings are totally out of this. Fixings, dude. Fixings are a whole thing. Why is this stuff making me dial out? But yeah, if you have that much fix, it's dude, just we built. So it's like trash to like buying merch from a gas station. Like if you buy like a clothing item from a gas station, oh, non ironically, right. If you're like, yeah, what are the, what are what they got? You were like, man, I bet they got some nice like you ever hit a loves and like there's a guy that's for a spring collection

Starting point is 00:56:08 God that's on ironically thumbing through the shirts and he's like, oh, yeah, these are kind of fire You know, he's thinking like these are pretty fire God some of these oh the trucking community this yeah a lot of the trucking community They're like, oh this shirt goes with that statue and they'll always say that too. Yeah of the trucking community, they'll be like, oh, this shirt goes with that statue. And they'll always say that too. Yeah. They always have like a lot of like,

Starting point is 00:56:27 it'll be like a dolphin unicorn, like, but single animal, merged animal. It'll be like merged animal. Yeah. That'll be the section. It's like Liger. Yeah, yeah, like Liger. Like that.

Starting point is 00:56:40 It's like, Like a Centaur. Yep. Centaur tits and a horse body. Yep Another our regards is using the Like using the like the bathtub or a sink at a hotel like as a cooler so like putting ice in it and then like fill and still like putting your drinks in the That receptacle it cuz if you don't use a a shower at all that's the thing that's even worse yeah that's what do

Starting point is 00:57:08 you you're not showering in lieu of having yes yeah just some cozy cold drink cold it's a very spring break feel yeah to that what did we do dude we got uh well my first car was 84 Ford Escort and somebody had oh it was beautiful well pretty much semi beautiful probably and yeah some and somebody had, oh it was beautiful. Well, it was pretty much semi-beautiful probably. And somebody had stole the passenger seat out of it, right? See, like this happened while you owned it or when you got it, it had already been thieved. When I got the vehicle, I had it for like three days

Starting point is 00:57:39 and somebody stole it. I think it was the guy, I think he didn't wanna sell the whole car. So he fenced it it he fenced the seat Yeah, he came in it was like, you know what? I'm taking this back. I didn't mean to sell you the whole car I wanted that seat out of there. Yeah, I forgot. Hey, I forgot my wife Yeah, hey, we had our first kid on that seat and she told me not But that was a memento. It was a

Starting point is 00:58:03 not but that was a memento it was a yeah it was an 84 Ford Escort baby and I got god I paid 600 large for that what color was it which one like what what's the most accurate representation are gray they only had I think of the 84 hardtop hardtop dude how this too clean 1984 Ford Escort dude I'm saying hardtop Hard top dude. Dude, look at how this too clean 1984 Ford Escort dude.

Starting point is 00:58:28 I'm saying hard top like there was any other like there was like a drop top dude you got some coin now go buy an 84 Escort and chop the top off of it dude. Get a convertible top one dude. No I think it's supposed to have the top on it so you can get safely to

Starting point is 00:58:44 school. That's what I did in it. But somebody stole my passenger seat I had for three days. So then the crazy part was you go pick a girl up and they get in the car in the back, but they had to get in the back through the front. Like it only had the front door. So then again, just, well, at least you didn't have to flip the seat up. Yeah. So that part was actually nice.

Starting point is 00:59:03 But then if somebody wanted to be right by you, that if this gets right on their knees. Yeah, so they could just, but that's like built in like lounger though, kind of. That's true, they just wanna sit in the back and chill. For the girls. Like a king vibe. For girls, girls didn't like it.

Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah, probably I could see that. Yeah, girls are like, I don't know what's happening. They were like, man, this car is like really trashy. And you were like, no, it's cool, dude. I love it. I love this car dude and I and then one time it got t-boned outside of uh outside of it this I think I think place called is a doors or something some of those sandwich shop

Starting point is 00:59:38 Iggy's or something smorgasbord yes smorgasbord fucking yes smorgasbord fucking bird snacks baby butorgasbord is fucking bird snacks, baby. But yeah, so and I got T-boned. And then after that, I was dating this cute girl. But every time I go to her house, I would try to hide the car at an angle. It was so banged up now where like almost the angle she walked and get in. She would really be able to see all the damage. The damage.

Starting point is 01:00:02 My neon used to when I would stop, the radiator would leak a little bit. So if I wasn't driving, the radiator, there was a little, it was like that, kind of that rubberized top on the radiator tube there, and it had just the littlest crack in there. And me and my dad, we tried to fix it a million times, but it would get so hot that no matter what you put over,

Starting point is 01:00:24 it wouldn't stick. All the best, like block, tie, would get so hot that like, no matter what you put over it, it wouldn't stick like all the best like block type on and stuff like the heat would get it. So it would like spit stuff out of it. And then that would get on like the engine block. And so anytime I would stop, it would just smoke a just a little bit, dude. So I'm already like spending my last two dollars. I was spending my last two dollars buying fish tacos at Long John Silver's anyways. I'm already embarrassed with myself. And then like, they're like, if there was anybody that you would see and you're in the drive-through

Starting point is 01:00:58 waiting to get your $2 tacos and your car's like smoking and they're like, dude, maybe, and they look at you and you're 300 pounds, dude, and they're like, probably shouldn't be getting these tacos, you know? Yeah, I guess it's all. Like, they're like, just fix the car, man. Like, just miss a couple tacos. Like, it will be fine. Yeah, yeah, at a certain point, dude,

Starting point is 01:01:18 you got to look at the scale of justice. Yes, just do you need Baja fish tacos? You don't, dude. It's like theaja fish tacos? You don't, dude. It's like the McFish, you don't need it. You know what I mean? God, when she ordered it though, and you would see other people in the distance look over at us when she ordered it and shit.

Starting point is 01:01:34 And I'd be so ashamed, I'd be like. But it was wild caught though, so it's fine. Yeah, I don't know where, it seemed like they, I would say, yeah, it seemed like outdoor caught. Some of it, it was kind of darker. Some of the fish, but out, out in caught in nature would be like a better caught in the wild caught out in the open coerced. It said on the side, like wildly coerced. I don't know if this is a good fish or not. Um, and do you take any good trips recently? Maybe you've been anywhere

Starting point is 01:02:03 fun for vacation, for vacation. Gosh, dude, I I hadn't been we hadn't been on like a real vacation and Like me and the wife. I mean we haven't gone on vacation I mean we got to we have had two kids back-to-back dude So we're like do they sleep in y'all's room y'all's children. No, we have we just the youngest one He just left our room my month or two ago. So our boys share a room right now. Oh, that's fine. So it's I mean, you know if they were older I think it'd be fun, but I think now they're just kind of like How can I keep the other one awake? They don't really know What they're doing or why they're doing it. Yeah

Starting point is 01:02:41 one of them is always making noise and that one's like they're doing it. Yeah. One of them is always making noise and the other one's like looking and like our ones like he can't even like he's just now able to kind of like pull himself up so he's like a fall risk just all the time. Yeah. He's like in the crib and he's like trying to look at the other one because he's rattling the blinds. Right. They're always doing something. It seems like a band that's on drugs. It kind like that. Some of the stories. To think back on it, some of our guys have probably done some similar things.

Starting point is 01:03:09 I've matched my road at times, dude. Oh my God. But we haven't gone, I mean, gosh, man. I mean, I've been, it feels like I've been all over the world in the last couple of years, but that's just going on a vacation. I know it's hard to find a spot and really get in and be like, all right, let's go do it.

Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah, and it's like, it's weird too, cause like, you know, vacation for me is like getting to just be home. Like that feels like vacation to me. Yeah. But then like, my wife is home a lot with the kids and stuff. So she does want to go like,

Starting point is 01:03:39 like get away and go somewhere and do something. And it's like, you know, finding that time where, you know, I don't feel like I'm traveling somewhere every week and going back and forth. Yeah, stuff can burn you up, man. It's just, it's a wild thing, man, right now. We're just in this weird balance because of the kids right now,

Starting point is 01:03:55 because they're so small. And there's nothing you can do. You have to take care of them every day. 100%. I mean, that's the number one thing, dude. I mean, there is no, the kids don't care about the stadium. They don't know anything.

Starting point is 01:04:07 And do they rate you guys or anything? Like, how do you know? There's, there is a complaint box. Or is, yeah, do you guys like get an email every week from them or like, how do you know how you're doing? You don't. They're alive. If they're still, if they're still alive and kicking, dude,

Starting point is 01:04:23 at this point you're doing pretty good job. But there's not, there's not, there's not somebody that comes when they're still alive and kicking dude, at this point you're doing pretty good job. But there's not. There's not. There's not somebody that comes when they're like three years old and gives you like a performance review. Yeah, just like somebody should. Well, you know what, we were saying this when we had our first kid, we walked to the hospital and I'm like, dude, we had this kid two days ago and bro, I got to take a test to drive a car dude.

Starting point is 01:04:46 And they're, they'll just give you a human life. Like, all right, no, I'll give you go. Don't matter who you are. Yeah. What your background is. There's no questions asked really, dude. Yeah. They're just like, Hey man, like you'll be good, man.

Starting point is 01:05:01 Like you'll people, your parents figured it out. Oh yeah. Especially if you want a mixed kid, they'll just hand you one down there in a lot of these places. I'm like, all right. It's crazy. It's a wild west, dude.

Starting point is 01:05:13 The kids thing is like. It's a wild west, man. It's like, there is no, you know, I read all the like, wow, to be a good dad. How to be a rodeo daddy or whatever. How to be a, you know. Eight seconds with my son. Right. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:05:27 Wow. To stay 18 years of your eight second life, you know, it's like, but it, yeah. Parenting and fishing. You're like, is that magazine? Like that seems how, how parenting is like noodling, you know, it's like, yeah, it's just stick and pray baby. You know what I mean? Uh, it's a wild ride, man, but the, the dad thing was, was really fun to do. And that's just where my head's been recently. And, and do you start to think like, Hey, we got to get this third or fourth

Starting point is 01:05:58 or fifth child out of the way now, or do you start to strategize it? Like, I mean, the deadlines do feel looming, right? like if you want to have You know I mean because every time you have a kids like it starts over like the whole like okay well now it's like when we don't have kids is 18 years from Now now again right again. We just restarted the clock restart like going back to jail of kids Like a loving jail with other nice, like the best jail ever. Yeah. It's like, but it does.

Starting point is 01:06:30 It's such a jail ever. That's one of the songs on the new album chain mail children. Dude. Yeah. The best jail ever. Yeah. Work pin did. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:40 I'll have the best jail ever. But I don't, we think about it's like, well, how, you know, then you think about how close do I want the how, you know, then you think about, well, how close do I want the kids to be to each other? Right. Like how, you know, how does it, where it's, what's tour look like next year? Is it going to be extra busy or we have a light year? Like it's weird to think about that stuff.

Starting point is 01:06:58 Cause at the end of the day, you're talking about like potentially like a person. Right. That will be like a live doing like that although I have an entire life you know and so like I don't know I often wonder you know often I often not fantasize is the wrong word but like think about you know it just being a like being like my kids parents is like I almost worry about them like finding out what I do in some ways. You mean dance at night?

Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah, like we have like put on a nice vinyl, you know, dancing a little bit. Wouldn't that be great? That's what you meant. Yeah. Like I just don't want them to know. That I dance. That's when I was all occasionally dance.

Starting point is 01:07:38 Classically trained. Yeah, I'll dance for their mother in the evening sometimes. Big boy ballerina in the evening. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess I wonder how kids, you know, cause it is so tough. You see so many kids that are somehow traumatized or face some sort of like,

Starting point is 01:07:54 By, right, like their parents being. Just the by-product of their parents being in the limelight, especially maybe in, I don't know if especially in music, maybe not especially, but just in the limelight. Yeah, I think about it a lot, you know, cause I go, you know, I don't know if especially in music, maybe not especially, but just in the limelight. Yeah, I think about it a lot, you know, because I go, you know, I don't like, and it's going to sound weird. It's like you almost wish they could just not know in some

Starting point is 01:08:13 ways, and not because I don't want them to know. That's not what I'm getting at. It's like, I almost just want them to be like naive to the whole thing for as long as is humanly possible. Yeah. I want them to, to only thing they're worried about is like riding bikes and playing trucks and, you know, riding around on the players with mom and dad. Yeah, I don't. But there gets to a point like, you know, as soon as

Starting point is 01:08:36 like school is looming, like, you know, I've got some other artists, buddies that have kids and they're like, well, you got to tell them or somebody else is going to tell them. It's almost like telling your kids there's no Santa or something. Like it's like the opposite of that. It's like the opposite of that. Like telling your kids there is a Luke combs. Right.

Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah. And it's like, I don't want them to like ever. I don't want my kids to ever think of me that way. Like, sure. I want them to be really good. Some of his early stuff. I liked better, but I still love him. The last couple of albums were just garbage, dude.

Starting point is 01:09:06 Once he had us, they just, you know, they just really stunk. Dude, imagine if that happened to a kid where their dads, their sales weren't as good after they had children. And they were like, we have the, me and my buddies have the golf theory, dude. Once you start playing golf, sick, it's bad? No. the golf theory did. Once you start playing golf, it gets bad. No, no. Well, for sure. I think for me at least, but it's once like the great golfers, once they have kids, it gets harder to maintain like, because the amount of like practice and stuff that they have to do. I mean, I don't, I know next to nothing about being a professional golfer, by the way.

Starting point is 01:09:42 This is just a guy who watches golf and like wishes that he could do golf. You always pretend like something came up and my friend's asking me to go play golf or something. You're like, sorry, man, I gotta, I gotta go do something. I gotta go vote. I'll even say that. And they're like, what?

Starting point is 01:09:59 And you're like, yeah. Yeah, they're voting for the comptroller. City comptroller. Just practice them for the big. Yeah big game in November Hey, you know, I was having a practice Super Bowl party tonight. So actually can't I wanted to make sure the the Super Bowl party Would be good, but it's hot Have a run through did you uh, um, did you have if you play the Super Bowl yet? No, there's a minute country you played the Super Bowl yet? Mm-mm. No. There hasn't been a country artist on the Super Bowl in a long time.

Starting point is 01:10:28 Who was the last one? It was a big medley of people. I believe it's Clint Black, Travis Trich, Shania, Tanya Tucker. Wow. It was like a bunch of country artists that did like a big medley thing, I believe. Now there's

Starting point is 01:10:44 been a bunch of artists that have done the anthem. Right. But as for the halftime show there hasn't been one since you'd have to look it up the mid 90s. Reba McIntyre is coming up. The anthem though. Oh the anthem. You mean like the actual halftime show. Yeah. It's been it only happened one time. Only one time ever? Yep. Wow. That seems unreal, huh? So it's Shania Twain, Gwen Stefani, and Sting. Okay, so Shania was different than the other Medley thing.

Starting point is 01:11:18 Right. So they had Shania. So twice. Twice. Yeah, so twice ever. I would imagine that at some point, Taylor Swift has to do it at some point. Oh, that's a good point. But I don't know if that would still be considered a country artist now. Yeah, it's kind of universal. But like to think like a guy like Garth's never done it. I know. A guy like George Strait's never done it. You know, like so many of these guys. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:42 I've watched Garth sing it. You know. Have you gotten to spend much time with Garth ever? I have not a ton of time, but we've spoken many times. Like I took my band out to see his show out in Vegas. I was out there, I was playing like a private event and it didn't start till like 1130 or something like super late night It's like a birthday party thing And so, you know, we got to Vegas like yeah morning. So I'm like, what the hell do we do all day? So start looking stuff up and like oh my gosh Garth's playing and tonight is doing his show I gotta see it. So I'm like and the band like I told the band I was like I hit my manager up I was like hit up Garth's folks and see if we can maybe

Starting point is 01:12:25 get some tickets. And so man, yeah, he came in, dude. We got over there. And dude, he came in and said hey to the band. And the band had no idea we were going to meet him at all. Because dude, my band guys are like, and it's a couple of them from Oklahoma and stuff. Yeah, they love him.

Starting point is 01:12:41 They probably have drawings of him in the house. And so 100% they do. But he came in and taught everybody and got us great seats. They let us come in. Because those shows, they're like no phones or whatever, I think. Like a lot of the Vegas stuff, you can't have your phone or something. Yeah. Yeah, because they don't want to, yeah, I think they don't want anybody having their phone. To like see, so they can't like record. Record stuff. People sell it like streams, Vietnam,

Starting point is 01:13:06 all kind of stuff. Yeah. So they let us come in like right when the lights went down. They brought us in because like I was like, hey, man, I want to come but there's no like, at those theaters, there's not really like suites or like backstage spots. Right, you don't want to take away from his attention. Yeah, I'm like, hey, man, I just want to like come in,

Starting point is 01:13:23 just sit this thing and like not, you know. Yeah. It's weird, like I tell like, hey man, I just want to like come in, like just sit this thing and like not, you know. It's weird, like I tell people, like, man, I don't really like being the center of attention as weird as that is. Considering what I do, it makes me like really uncomfortable. Like when people make like a big deal about me, like being that stuff. Oh, maybe, yeah.

Starting point is 01:13:39 And I'm just like, oh gosh, man. Like I don't really try and not think about myself that way. Yeah, well it's interesting, yeah., cuz you start thinking about yourself that way I think it's almost better to try and purposely not think of yourself Yeah, sure almost like let me add in some things that'll be seem a little bit more normal, you know I got this sire truck and that was being kind of a nightmare because it's fun to drive But it's just too much attention, you know, I saw it. And then I'll be hiding in it and I'll just... Do you like it though?

Starting point is 01:14:09 It's fun. Yeah. But it's quiet too. It's like pixelated, it looks pixelated. Yeah, it feels like you just travel like you're, literally it feels like you'll put, like you'll press the gas and you'll wake up in damn August, dude.

Starting point is 01:14:23 It just... Yeah, you're gone. And it's like instant torque in those things too. You were into the future. You could go zero to 60 in like two seconds and that thing is. In half a yawn brother, you'd be over there. That thing can get you there quick.

Starting point is 01:14:37 I got electric Polaris dude and it's the same thing. It cooks, huh? Absolutely crushes. But it doesn't smell like gas dude. My car used to have loose gas in it. I remember when I was in high school. Yeah. My second vehicle was a Ford, Jimmy or a GMC, Jimmy. Yeah. GMC, Jimmy. I actually, I think it was a GMC Ford, Jimmy. It was, it was a, two cars mixed together as a merger. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:04 Welded together. It was a two cars mixed together as a merger. Yeah. Welded together. It was previously. Yeah. Yeah. Previously totaled, you know, um, do you, are there parts that like, cause once you get to a certain level of just being known, you can't there's, you can never kind of go back to some of those just like, um, it's weird in in life sometimes it feels like you'll be able to go back and you can't. Right, you can't get back like-

Starting point is 01:15:30 Just how you felt at the time. Sure, sure. You know, I guess it's just life. Do you ever feel like, I don't know much about the world of comedy other than just being a fan of it, but like, is he ever get sometimes where you're like, man, you kind of like saw how the sausage was made a little bit and you're just like, man, like you saw behind the curtain a little bit.

Starting point is 01:15:53 You know what I'm saying? Like you haven't heard, you've heard that. Seeing behind the curtain, seeing how the sausage is made. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying, dude. I did not, brother. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you do, dude. Yeah, you do.

Starting point is 01:16:06 Do you mean like seeing how movies and TV and music are made? Yes. Oh, 100%. Yes. You know, like no one, if you saw how they made a hot dog, you probably wouldn't eat one. Oh, dog. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:16:20 If I saw how they make hot dogs, I would, A, call child protective services. But it's, I feel like sometimes the entertainment business can be that way. Oh, I agree. Where you're like, man, I, you know, it just, it loses that. Like it loses that thing, the magic, right? Like the shine or the whatever is like, you know, Oh, there's something wonderful about sitting at home. Just thinking like, man, what it would be like to be on this thing, like the voice or like a show, you know,

Starting point is 01:16:48 like, but then you don't realize if you are on that, like all this, the F just like you see all the behind the working. Yeah. So it's still part of a dream, but it doesn't have the same look as if you're just like just viewing it, you know? Yeah. You lose, you just lose a lot. Well, I just like, I can't even like, and you're, you may be you just lose a lot. Well, I just like, I can't even like, and you're, you may be this way with like comedy and stuff, but I can't even like consume music the way I used to. Like I'm constantly like, not critiquing it, but I'm looking at it through a different lens.

Starting point is 01:17:15 Through business more lens, different things like that. Yeah, and I'm like, man, well, this is so good because this thing and that, and before it was just good. Like the song was just good or the artist was just good. It wasn't like, well, this guy is really, he's playing this character or this girl is really great at this one vocal technique thing. It's like, you did any, almost like when you don't know why it's good, it's better. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:17:41 And now sometimes I'm like, now I can- You read the ingredients now. Right, and'm like oh it's good because this thing happened or that thing happened or you know. Yeah things were excessive. Yeah everything had a little bit more magic in it before you knew what was going on. Yeah and it's you'd love to be able to kind of get that to be able to recapture that. Yeah. You know and there's moments I mean you know I mean dude it's still the best. I mean we're still living our dream in a lot of ways. Yeah. You know I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean I'm still living my dream. I mean know, and there's moments. I mean, you know, I mean, dude, it's still the best. I mean, we're still living our dream. Yeah. You know, in almost every way possible, I am, you know. So I have zero complaints really about about my life, dude. But it's just you you want you kind of like you can't help it evolve. You can't recapture. Right. Yeah, you just can't.

Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah, you can never kind of go back to where you were that time that Like yeah chase like the the being excited about being where you are now Yeah That's half the fun is like trying to get there and trying to figure out how to get there and doing everything it takes to get There is like a lot of the enjoyment of the process Yeah, and yeah, they always say that but you don't really realize it while it's going on Yeah, for sure and then all of a sudden you realize there's you can't which can't recapture it You're like dang and I wish I would have bottled that up somehow

Starting point is 01:18:53 Do you think though like do you look at because you've gotten have a great trajectory just a great career you just you know You've worked hard and you've also been fortunate, right? Yes so how do, does it get to be like, well, what else is there to shoot for? Kind of like, does that kind of become a, and not like in a net, like a, just curious, like how do you find a motivation if you're, do you feel like it could be a trap?

Starting point is 01:19:19 Like, oh, I don't want to lose motivation here because things have gone so well. Yeah, for sure, man. Cause you, you know, you kind of get to this place I want to lose motivation here because things have gone so well. Yeah for sure man, because you You know you kind of get to this Place where you're like man I feel like I've done you know a lot of the stuff that I feel like I can do almost like as far as achievements go or whatever it may be and

Starting point is 01:19:37 Yeah, you think you know you have to do as much work or more work than you've ever done to stay in that place As before if you're doing that amount of work, you're constantly moving towards a goal. Right. Right. It's like if you work all this time to climb Mount Everest and say it's so hard, you know, you've got to cross the crevasses and do all these different things to make it to the top. Well, it's like once you get there, you need oxygen just to even breathe while you're up there. And so it may take a higher toll on your body to stay at the top than it does to come back down, or than it did to even get up there.

Starting point is 01:20:16 And so it feels like it can have, there's somewhat of like a hamster wheel feel to it. Like, when you get to this certain level because you're like man I'm working so hard just to like kind of heat against the a the other guys that are up here to and All the other people that are coming up to the top as well like yeah, you're like you're doing all this work to stay well do I want to do I have to continually try to

Starting point is 01:20:43 Do you know compete with this guy and this guy and there's other people going, we're coming to, and we're ready to just, this is part of your ass off the top of this thing. If we get the chance. God, so there's like, it's like, there's, there's always that next, but that's again, dude, it comes back to, to growing up with your fan base and just growing yourself is learning that nobody stays at the top forever. And it's okay to not be at the top.

Starting point is 01:21:10 It's okay to, you know, you shouldn't be scared of the fall because you can build these things in your life, these, you know, these kind of soft places of land being your family, your friends, right? Things that really matter. The things that when you're 80 years old, would you rather have spent more time with your kids or made another album that was successful? I felt like a lot of people would choose be with your kids or, you know, have gone on another trip with your wife or, you know, went, you know, fishing with your dad again,

Starting point is 01:21:46 or went golfing with your buddies one more time, or go hunting with your friends, or whatever. Like, those are the experiences that ultimately will come to be the defining moments of your life. You know what I mean? Like, your career achievements, yeah, they're really great, and you should be really proud of them. I'm insanely proud of everything I've done,

Starting point is 01:22:03 and I will continue to work hard to be the best I can be. But I'm also not afraid of knowing that one day people are gonna be like, damn dude, that some bitch is old, dude. You talk about washed up, dude. Like that's gonna happen to me at some point. Right, like, oh, look at him. Yeah, he's over there.

Starting point is 01:22:20 Right, look at this old cat. Look at this, I can't, yeah. Drinking gasoline or whatever. I'll say like, oh, that seems. Yeah. Guys, Look at this old cat. Look at this. I can't. Yeah. Yeah. Drinking gasoline. Guys, that's not even him. That's just some guy that looks like Luke. You know, there's a lot of those. Nobody's ever had so many people look like him at one time on one planet. I don't think. 100%. That's for sure. I mean, there is, I've got a, there's like a stat sheet thing. And so not really a stat sheet, but there's like a, if you're five eight to six eight, and you're 200 pounds to like 600 pounds,

Starting point is 01:22:54 and you have like the Amish style beard, people are like, dude, you look just like me, dude. And there's male or female. 100%, dude. And they'll be in the meet and greet like, dude, everybody says I look like you. I'm like, bro, you are 6'8". And you're like 180 pounds. You don't look anything like each other.

Starting point is 01:23:16 But there are some good ones, though. There are some good ones. But there's a lot of people that are desperate to look like you as well. I think there's a lot of people. Oh my god, that's not you. Yeah. There's a lot of them that are good.

Starting point is 01:23:31 There's some really good ones out there, man. You've got to adopt one. Or how old did they have to be to get adopted? Dude, is this guy's doing like a kind of a promo shot here. I haven't seen a lot of these. Yeah, some of the- That's like a remake of that promo photo. That's like you and of that promo photo there.

Starting point is 01:23:45 That's like you and me merged in one. Look at the one, the second one to the right. Right there. No, left, left. Right there. Yeah. That's my nose, your face. Or somebody, I don't know who that is. Yeah, there's a lot of closeted Amish or Luke Brown.

Starting point is 01:24:01 Or, sorry, or Luke Holmes. Amish, dude. A lot of closeted Amish, dude. A lot of closet that Amish. Yeah. You think that closet did Amish is such an interesting. Well, the craziest part is the one guy who, um, they, he was like, uh, there used to be a show. It was like Amish something Amish, like something Amish and they,

Starting point is 01:24:21 good job. Something on this one dude kept like mowing his grass. He had to use that old school cutter. This like the spinning wheel thing. And he's like, this sucks. I was adopted. I'm not even supposed to be Amish. He said, I'm not even supposed to be.

Starting point is 01:24:39 Was it escaping Amish or breaking Amish? Escaping or breaking. Breaking Amish. Yeah. And then he's like, I'm not even supposed to be Amish. I was adopted. Like, damn dude, sucks to be you, dude. I feel like that's a tough poll, dude. That'd be hard. Yeah. But they don't get autism in their communities. There's a lot of thing. Health benefits of being Amish. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:01 Look up the health benefits of being Amish health benefits of being Amish. And you get on, health benefits of being Amish. Health benefits of being Amish. And you get un- uh, think of the things that would be fun. I bet sneaking off and talking to a girl would be unreal. I'll be sick, dude. You'd be like... Like meet me over there in that area. Conscious behaviors are considered the norm right now. Less tobacco, less alcohol, less salt, more vitamin and mineral supplements.

Starting point is 01:25:24 And by less they mean no tobacco, no alcohol, right? I mean, I'm sure they're not allowed to have that. Yeah, I think prayer, like praying fast is like kind of their booze. Like a quick... I have no idea what that is. I'm looking. I love this. I don't know what it is.

Starting point is 01:25:42 Maybe just close the window. Dude, a phantom ad? There's just phantom ad that's playing right now, dude? What did, um, what will you guys do for Father's Day, man? Dude, so talk about how kids change your life. My first son was born on Father's Day. Wow, so it's his birthday. Well, it won't be every year his birthday, but same like weekend or within a day or two for sure every year Wow, I'm sure it will just be like oh Yesterday was Texas birthday and then the next day's father's day and they're like, oh cool man. Like thanks. Thanks for your sperm

Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, yeah cool dog. Appreciate it Like yeah, we don't we're gonna get you something but we're all tired from like Texas birthday and stuff So we didn't get like you're tired from a two year old. Yeah, sorry. Oh yeah. I remember one time buying drugs at a one year old birthday. It was like one of the low points of my life from the, was it one year old? No, just an associate that was a friend of his friend. Yeah. Yeah. He got, he'd fallen in was a friend is yeah Yeah Yeah, he got he'd fallen in with a couple two and a half year old

Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah, I had a couple sidemen, you know what I mean? One of them had taken things to another level. Um Yeah, what else is I thinking about you know, I took a fucking I took like a One of those like CBD gum is someone's side of my brain has been rocked has it all right Took a straight-up CTE fall yesterday really yeah, yeah awful what a little scrambled dude today, too Really? We all we all Swim in or something yeah, we were pooling it But we were in the yard like in the grass Like we had one of those like splash pads out. Oh, yeah

Starting point is 01:27:27 Those are nice kids were out like splash around and stuff and I was wearing these like Super dad like moccasin shoes like they're just like a leather bottom Yeah, and they said they literally don't have tread like it's like it's like walking on a like marble on the bottom of your feet Yeah, I've seen those There's always seem like you're not sure what this guy's gonna be like when you see in there They're insanely comfortable, but it rained so much last couple days So my yard is like this is I mean our house is from the probably the 60s or something So oh wow when they built the house like yeah, there wasn't like the same kind of like grading

Starting point is 01:28:04 Permitting that goes on now. So like the house kind of sits on this hill, but the back, it's just a small hill, but the backyard is all kind of sloped down towards the house. And then right before they built the house, there's just a little bit more of a slope as to where now they would kind of have to grade out and smooth it out. So back then those bitches were a little choppy. Yeah, they were just like, whatever, just pop the house anywhere.

Starting point is 01:28:27 And so I'm walking down in the moccasins, dude. My kid was in this flash pad, dude, and he was like, we got him this little slide and we put him down there and it scared him and he's like crying. I'm like, oh, you're good, dude, it's cool. I was like, do you wanna see dad jump in the big pool? Because we have a little pool.

Starting point is 01:28:44 Oh yeah, you gotta do a trick for a kid. And he was like, yeah, man. He's like, dude, cheer him up dad? I jump in the big pool like cuz we have a little pool and oh, yeah You gotta do a trick for a kid. He's like dude like cheer him up, you know, so I go to go down the hill dude I'm in the moccasins and just dude both of my feet just go And I'm talking about dude. I hit the ground like on my back So like the way the hill is like the flushes you could ever hit something Oh, why it was like my entire back hit the ground at the same time perfectly Boom and I was just like I mean I just remember sitting up and I just sat there and my my wife My two kids are behind me. I can't see him. I'm just like and my I knew I was like

Starting point is 01:29:17 This could be serious cuz my wife isn't even laughing like she wasn't like Hi, you idiot like you felt like it was just, I just kind of sat there for a second and was like, and just kind of process like, am I, is everything fine? Yeah, does everything like, am I cool? Like, can I get up from this? And then my wife was just like, you okay? And I was like, yeah, I'm good. Just kind of, yeah, but it's kind of felt like getting, like, you know, I played football in high school

Starting point is 01:29:46 or whatever, so it kind of felt like getting, like, just absolutely blindside blocked, like, and just rattling. Yeah. I mean, luckily the ground was soft because it was so wet and stuff, but, but yeah, I had just hit flush. There's moments as an adult when you hit,

Starting point is 01:30:00 when you get hurt and you're like, dang. You're like, dude. I'm not doing good. Yeah, you're like, man, this is, Yeah. 15, 20 years from now, this would be a huge issue. We would have a big problem. Well, a lot of grandparents go missing, even if there's like just a slippery floor or whatever. Yeah. You know, get a skid steer out on me in a couple years from now, dude, somebody's open in a can of peaches to make a pie or something they spill some peach syrup onto the ground just pop pop comes motoring through later okay to get him a couple saltine crackers for his

Starting point is 01:30:35 moccasins on he's got the mockies on dude yeah he's mocked up he just slips out he just slips ACL goes on the way both of his knees yeah he just slips his whole spine. ACL goes on the way. Both of his knees. And he just, ugh. Yeah, that's brutal, dude. I never, like yesterday was the, it was the first moment where I was like, I'm good, but like, man, this could have been like,

Starting point is 01:30:57 a not good situation, dude. You know what I mean? Like, it could have been not good, dude. It's risky now, dude. You don't know who's what. You just don't know what's going on. Slippery out there in those markets. Well, it's just what, what did I see you had done?

Starting point is 01:31:13 A gender reveal was something I saw. Oh, I've done a few, yeah. I've done a few. Yeah, do you guys get some big requests for stuff like that all the time? We get, a lot of them are just like people in the crowd will have like signs, like do this gender reveal. And I'm like, oh the crowd will have like signs like do this general And I'm like oh my gosh like where they like you're there Yeah, they're here like with the envelope like They've waited this whole time dude like I always try to ask like what is it what you know?

Starting point is 01:31:38 What's it your first kid or? That girl like I was a pervert Massey's this you on the sticks here film this Yeah, dude, it's kind of nervous like a big moment, you know, oh for sure if you find out If your kid is gonna be cool or not Yeah, dude. It's kind of nerve, it's like a big moment, you know? Oh, for sure, if you find out if your kid is gonna be cool or not. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, that's awesome, though, dude. What if the kid, like, hated country music,

Starting point is 01:32:18 like, later on in life? For sure, and uses that as a thing. And that was their gender reveal, and you're like, dude, I hate that guy's music stinks, dude. That guy did my gender reveal? That was the plan, dude? Oh. That would be brutal, dude.

Starting point is 01:32:34 But dude, look, bro, at that time, we could be online doing gender reveals on Cameo for people. You know what I'm saying? Like, who knows? There's no way that's a real thing. People do gender reveals on Cameo all the time now. I saw one where they got the guy, I feel like it was the lead singer of Sugar Ray

Starting point is 01:32:52 to like break up with their girlfriend. Really? Yeah, it was wild, dude. There's some wild Cameos out there. Dude, that's when Fly, remember that song? Oh, just one. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. When Fly, remember that song? Oh, just one. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. That song is around forever, bro.

Starting point is 01:33:10 It is, dude. Woman, I are sure a front man, dude. Let's see it, dude. The media is all of us about a video message. A lot of people that is coming out of the closet now, it's adults just doing gender revealing. People are like, what? The message was bought on the app called Cameo, which lets you pay celebrities to send you a message to your phone

Starting point is 01:33:28 What's up, Braden? It is Mark McGrath from the band Sugar Ray off the charts, but always in your hearts And this came this is crazy. Okay, so he looks like the guy named home alone's brother Buzz your girlfriend woof. He looks like buzz. If buzz got some different, like some, um, facial reconstructive surgery, I feel like, but what did he do? Nothing. It looked like they were overdubbing it. We can watch all the way through,

Starting point is 01:34:01 but the news guys were just, oh, you break up with a boyfriend. Yeah. He broke up with a boyfriend. Yeah To break up with her so a girl hires a car is him to break up with her boyfriend. That's that's demon level Yeah, it's pretty demon man and stuff there. I'm trying to do the first I wonder if it was like his favorite band too. Like was it an uber personal? Sugar right you mean was it like dude? Thanks. My boyfriend always loves sugar a so I'm hiring go with the original. Sugar Ray you mean? Was it like, dude, my boyfriend always loved Sugar Ray, so I'm hiring the lead singer to break up with him. Like almost just to make him like,

Starting point is 01:34:30 hate the band or something. Like was it really dark in that sense? Like if you loved Doritos or whatever. And you could hire Doritos. And you could hire like Jerry Cool Ranch or whatever. To break up with your girlfriend. Or you wrote it out in like, bags of Doritos. It was like, we're not breaking up with your girlfriend. Or you wrote it out in like bags of Doritos. It was like, Oh yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:47 But like, how did they decide on the lead singer, sugar Ray was the question. Was it a question of affordability? I don't know. It's a good question. Are you like, Hey, I was going to do Hulk Hogan, right? I was going to do Hulk Hogan, but there's a sale over here. There's a sale at sugar Ray. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:03 There's a sale at sugar for There's a sale at Sugar Ray. Yeah, there's a sale at Sugar Ray for the next 30 minutes. Next 30 minutes. Breakups are half off with on Mark McGrath's cameo. That's crazy. That's even a thing now. And you should just be Valentine's. Like you sent somebody something positive. And now it's like, watching ruin this lady's heart.

Starting point is 01:35:18 That's a thousand change, bro. I love how he said, off the charts, but forever in your hearts, dude. That's such a great line, bro. I love how he said, off the charts, but forever in your hearts, dude. That's such a great line, dude. That is a good slag, dude. That guy's looking beautiful. A lot of men, sometimes they'll look so beautiful, they look like women sometimes, too, you know?

Starting point is 01:35:38 He's definitely aged gracefully. Oh, he will be a hot chicken two or three years. There's no doubt, there's a lot lot of people they just run that game. It's not it's not a it's not over here it's a big circle. Oh it is yeah they're just spinning around. Oh definitely. There's a lot happening. It's beautiful. The hair is quaffed. It's good. The hair is good, man. So is it, whenever you start a new album, do you then have to go tour it after? Is that kinda how it goes, or is it?

Starting point is 01:36:11 I think traditionally that's how a lot of folks do it. This album, it feels like, in a lot of ways, non-traditional in the sense of like, it started out as just kinda this like, wild idea of like, I had written a couple of these dad songs that I really liked. And I was like, man, I feel like, you know, these three of these songs are really great. I love them.

Starting point is 01:36:34 But I was like, but I have to like choose one if I'm going to do a record because like, you can't put a record out and then it's like, oh, there's like three or four dads. Sounds like we get it. Do we? Right. My God. And I was like, well, would it make sense to like, to do something that's, I don't want to say side project. That's not the right term. Cause it is me.

Starting point is 01:36:51 It is my stuff. But like, I hate the word concept album. Cause like, it feels like that's too smart for something that I'm capable of doing. Like someone that makes a concept album to me is like Martians or whatever. Super like genius level musician. And I'm not that at all, but it's like a cornbread concept album.

Starting point is 01:37:11 Okay. I like it. I mean, like, um, but it's just, I was like, well, if I made a whole record of just these songs, you know, and then I got like, like a lot of my buddies, we're all the same age, so they're having kids. So, you know, they're, you know, they've got aging parents too. And so all these themes are running through all of our lives. And so they would start sending me little clips because, you know, they knew I had kids or whatever. And so they'd send me a star to something and I go, God, man, I really love that. I'd love

Starting point is 01:37:36 to like get together, work on that or whatever. And next thing you know, I end up with, you know, a whole record full of these songs. And I was like, we should just record these and just do a project that's just, so it's like, it's my next record, I guess, but it also doesn't feel like my next record, if that makes sense. It's not like, if you wanna listen to all my other records, it's not logically the next step from where you would think that it would go.

Starting point is 01:38:04 It's just kind of like where my life has taken me. Like sonically it's very, like I said, we recorded it live. So it's very like, it's very traditional country sounding stuff. Cause all just live instrumentation. Yeah. There's a lot of fiddle. There's a lot of sounds really dobro. Like it's, it's very natural sounding.

Starting point is 01:38:22 And so, you know so it sounds groovy I mean, I'm gonna small maybe six or seven songs or something, but it's definitely got its own vibe to it always leaving What's that one? Oh? Yeah, all I ever do is leave. Yeah That's a hammer song good. God dang God that songs. That's as always brutal There's hard moan eyes in my ass, dude. I've definitely there. I've got some problems, but yes, there's some good ones on there, man. Sometimes I think it's easier for people to leave than stay, man. Like some people, they just, they know they can't change themselves. And so they'd rather leave somebody and eliminate themselves from the situation.

Starting point is 01:38:58 Dude, that's crazy, man. Yeah, that's for sure, man. It happens all the time, dude. It happens from the situation. Dude, that's crazy, man. Yeah, that's for sure, man. Happens all the time, dude. It happens all the time. God, dude, when I, but yeah, when I was a kid, country music, they had this thing called Cryin' Lovin' or Leavin', you'd call the radio station. Okay.

Starting point is 01:39:17 And you'd tell him if you were cryin', they'd be like, are you cryin', lovin' or leavin'? And you had to tell what was happening in your life. And then they'd play a song, but it's on. Dorothy stole my car tires or leaving. And you had to tell what was happening in your life. And then they would play a song. Dorothy stole my car tires or whatever. Wow. And then you'd be like, all right, well, or you know, and you'd be like, I'm loving.

Starting point is 01:39:32 And I'm, I want to still there. Tell her this song. That was it. 107.7, crying, loving or leaving. And that was it. You'd call in there and then they'd play some of them. You'd have to wait and see. Dude, that's wild.

Starting point is 01:39:47 That's a pretty cool title though. It was pretty good, man. You sometimes, yeah, you like, this is for Tiffany. She's passed on and they'd be like, oh, I'm so sad. And you and Tiffany would be sitting there howling, laughing. Laughing about it. What the fuck. One of my favorites is the,

Starting point is 01:40:03 some of my favorite radio skits, the John Cena one, dude. Oh yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Where he's just, they're spamming that lady with the like WWE pay-per-view. It's like a phone call. Yeah. And it's this, it's some telemarketer.

Starting point is 01:40:18 Play it up. It's a long play, dude. Hello? I have just one question for you. Are you ready? Am I ready for what And this goes on they continue to call this woman back. No, she hangs up a bunch of times and they call her back dude and she gets she's like we're not. No there is not any chance in hell that we're ever gonna have wrestling in this house again. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:40:57 The husband called and said hey my wife we bought this pay-per-view and she like our son destroyed something she got really pissed off Dude there's one they say this bit swap and makeup make out match dude, it's on there it gets to the point where at the end they skip to like dude she gets pissed dude like it probably towards attitude yeah she gets mad dude yeah I'd say probably this mark somewhere to get some vitamin D probably it can mess with your cortisol there's one where hang up the phone. No, she hangs up a bunch of times and they continue to call her back, dude.

Starting point is 01:41:50 And then this lady has CTE, I think. Are you talking about the one where they fake being someone else or something? There's a point where they get and this lady, when she picks up, she's like, stop calling. And this is like, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. She's like, I have a quick question. Do you support our troops? She's like, oh my God, I'am, ma'am. She's like, I have a quick question. Um, do you support our troops? She's like, Oh my God, I'm so, I'm so embarrassed. I had been calling me or whatever. And they were like, and she was like, yes, I support the troops. And she was like, because a American

Starting point is 01:42:17 hero needs your help, it's a former Marine. And she's like, they're gonna hit John Cena there this she loses her mind it's it's a it's quite the troll dude it's quite the shorter version with one of those weird TikTok videos yeah why do kids do that now like it's just like a video of them playing Grand Theft Auto but yeah it's like going along with the with videos It's like psychology Yeah, it is. It's like oh watch this. Yeah, maybe you like watch this car bounce down the road, dude Oh, this is it. This is the one are let's see it. Well, this at least has the audio So at the start of this one is the is the audio

Starting point is 01:43:02 audio So at the start of this one is the is the audio Like the fourth time they call her like hey, do you support our troops or whatever? The videos they're mine, yeah Okay, good morning, hi, I'm just calling this morning to ask if you're a supporter of the United States military. Oh my god, I apologize. We've been getting calls all morning. I apologize and yes. Yes I am.

Starting point is 01:43:36 Great. Are you a supporter of the Marine Corps? Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Good. Great. Because a former decorated member of the United States Marine Corps needs your support Whoever did that prank was that's an elite level. I guess at least no matter what we can always Just make tik-toks, you know Yeah, cuz all we need is like stock video game, like mod a video game and just do stock videos of a car

Starting point is 01:44:11 like falling out of the sky. Well, I've had a vision for years that it's going to come down to everybody's going to be in like gig economy and people are going to be like holding each other at good point to be each other's Uber fare. So to be like two Uber drivers, both of them need to make money though. Yeah. She's like, you'd be my fare.

Starting point is 01:44:30 That's what it's going to come down to, dude. I always think of iRobot when they're just in the, like the floating. I never saw it. Or Wally. Have you seen Wally? Oh yeah. I love Wally. You can watch it in Spanish too.

Starting point is 01:44:42 The Titanic, the like space Titanic and they're all in the chairs with like the VR headsets on and they just, they're all like 800 pounds. I haven't seen it. And I was like, man, it's a terrifying potential reality. Do you guys use a lot of VR over at the house? Dude, no. What?

Starting point is 01:45:00 What? Dude, do I use a lot of VR, dude? What would I be using it for? What do you think would be happening? Dude? Buck hunt. Here's the wall. This is the Wally visual. Muffin making. I have no idea. What it would be for. Integrated reality. Muffin making is what it is. Yeah. You can just point at the muffins and they go into the oven. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh My goodness, dude That would be so nuts if we had a VR like if your whole life was VR like Neuralink, dude Yeah, they just got the guy see the kid. Yes. I'll the guy with the Neuralink you play chess or whatever

Starting point is 01:45:40 But it seems like you just play shitty games that they have on your cell phone like 15 years ago That's the thing on Neuralink that seems so trash too. It's just like, it's like just mind sweeper. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's, it's just getting there. It's just getting, you know. Yeah. It's just missing a lot of stuff. A guy paralyzed from, like he's playing Mario Kart, using a Neural link brain implant. Yeah, I would just gas though Yeah, I mean, you know, he could just look at it and tell it what to do better than like not playing Mario Kart That's true. Cuz that's like the other option. I think right. It's like to not be playing Mario Kart. Yeah, I think you so that could be cool Yeah, that's a good point. You know, if you couldn't do anything playing chess would be cooler than like Yeah, not doing anything. I think, is the alternate.

Starting point is 01:46:27 Yeah, but it seems like they just have a limited amount of games and stuff. I don't know if I'd rather Neuralink or just get a PS5 or whatever. Or just get a VR headset. Yeah. But you, well. VR is crazy though, man. You can like, there's um, people like, having their own, like guys will get a VR and then they'll have their own family inside of the VR world,

Starting point is 01:46:47 even though they already have a family in their house. I feel like people have already been doing that, but just in real life, people have been doing that for some time. People have been cheating, but this guy, this guy is doing an even less admirable version of cheating in some way, dude. If you could make cheating even less admirable, it would be that version of it.

Starting point is 01:47:08 Yeah, this dude's not even brave enough to go out there and fucking cheat and use a little gas money. He's just... Yeah, he's just like cheating. He's just like, shut up, honey. I'm with the other family right now. He's like, in the living room. He's like... He's just dialed in, dude. To the house. Oh my god I think my other family's naked

Starting point is 01:47:29 Talking about dude somebody brought one out on the road recently and that's maybe been last year or something But it was like this had a bunch of our crew guys popped it on or whatever and it was like You would get so essentially you'd stand in this, you know, just any room or whatever, I guess. I'll be hardwoods, anywhere is anywhere, right? Oh, you could stand anywhere, yeah. So you have to like, you have the like thing and you hit this button on like the elevator and you get in the elevator and then when the door opens,

Starting point is 01:47:58 you're like at the top of the skyscraper. Like when you'd open it, it's just the skyscraper and there's a wooden plank that comes out and is it windy or what? What I don't think so. There's no way no one We had a fan on yeah, you can turn a fan on and get maybe the wind effect, you know But do you like you so physically in the VR like you have to like step out? onto the plank like and you obviously you know, you're just like step out onto the plank. Like, and you obviously, you know,

Starting point is 01:48:27 you're just like in a room, but it looks like half the guys like wouldn't get out of the elevator. Wow. And then we had one guy in my buddy heart just went out to the end and he was looking down and then he was just like, he just jumped. No way.

Starting point is 01:48:42 I was like, bro, are you good? Bro, I used to be in a good bro I used to be in a wheelchair straight up jumped off the end that's cool full lunatic if people yeah some people in VR are totally people that they can't be in real life like this should have said VR Amish or VR star meter I on a simulator yeah be the new simulator be so great just a game dude. There you going dude. You have to actually learn Pennsylvania Dutch to to play the game. Already a thing dude. On a simulator? Yeah get in there see if there's any uh a lot of times they have fresh eggs. Hour and 40 minutes? Yeah. Bro, you think you can be Amish in what, 15 minutes?

Starting point is 01:49:27 You're out of your mind. Here it is, dude. God, you are lying to me, dude. This is fully integrated Amish. Dude, yeah, if I meet one more guy who wants to be Amish quickly, I'm gonna fuck. Cause it's not fair. You see what, you gotta work for it, dog.

Starting point is 01:49:43 You know what I mean? Oh, that's awesome, man. And this is Amis simulator. Yep. Activated winner. But the thing about being Amis, dude, imagine, bro, you get to sneak off all the time and try to like meet a chick or something.

Starting point is 01:49:58 Cause you can't date, I don't think, until you're 30 or what? What's the age on it? 30, no way. They have severe dating issues, yeah. You can't date until you're 30? Yeah, they have severe dating issues Yeah, you can't date until you're 30. How do they have no dude that can't be right. They have much kids 16 yeah, never mind. I was like 30 dude. Wow, that is like how did that they survive this long, dude? I don't know man. That's crazy Is this me in the VR thing? Oh no, this is the elevator thing.

Starting point is 01:50:32 VR people always look, they always stay on like they're completely naked. It just, I do look very tense. Yeah, you look like you're gonna get, I feel like they always think you're about to get busted for a crime or something, too Oh my god, that just scrolled 8 million like I just turned it and it just scrolled like 8 billion pictures Yeah, there's a lot of alarming stuff on people's phones This says dating among the almost typically begins around age 16 with most almost couples marrying between the ages of 20 and 22 To find a perspective date the young adults socialize at functions such as frolics

Starting point is 01:51:09 Dude, I'm in that's going with smorgasbord. I'm all eggs Church or home visits bro. That would be me dude Door to door Where's the chick one of the most popular activities is the Sunday night singing? That would be you I'd be killing it. It's only like they would be There's the chicks. One of the most popular activities is the Sunday Night Singing. Mm. That would be you. I'd be killing it at Sunday Night Singing. Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 01:51:30 Sunday Night Singing? They would get out the churn and get you out there. Dude. Milkmaids. The final churn, that would be your band name. The final churn, dude. Heaven's churn. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:51:43 Yeah. Heaven's churn. This Yeah. Heaven's turn. This is a wonderful. What does it say right here? Almost 365. Sunday evening singing with the Amish. The Buggies were lined up for an Amish singing in Bell Center, Ohio. We happened to be camping and were out enjoying an evening drive.

Starting point is 01:51:57 All of a sudden, we started seeing Buggies coming from all directions, and we saw them all pulling into a lane there. They sure looked handsome. A lot of men in their Sunday lane there they sure looked handsome a lot of men in their Sunday best They sure looked handsome What an interesting blog here dude, they are a state of Amish youth culture Sunday evening singing This is often where teenagers meet their future mates make friends and just have some good clean fun Food is served pizza mates is a gross. Yeah, sounds very like primal, you know

Starting point is 01:52:26 Yeah future mates say like spouse or like but I remember doing I was growing we grew up in a pretty small town So it was like you knew you were probably gonna have to marry somebody in town somebody in there And they would even tell us that in school. I remember when we're like second grade. You probably go Yeah, they like look around the classroom. There's one other classroom with kids in it. You can look at some of them, but you guys are- This is kind of the talent pool, you know? This is it, guys.

Starting point is 01:52:52 Yeah. It's kind of everything we got going. And you'd be like, this is bad. This is definitely- This is tough, dude. I got to get out of here, dude, you know? This is pretty limited. Do you manage your tours differently as time goes on where you're like, okay

Starting point is 01:53:07 I want to do just certain cities and just or do you choose that or how do you guys put that together? Yeah, I think you know, we've had we've always had a long strategy on how do we you know, how do we maximize? This or that, you know, we have certain goals, you know playing overseas was always big goal for us like consists playing overseas consistently to the point where we feel like we had really fostered a fan base that could almost be self-sustaining in the sense of like, you could go tour one year, you could just go tour in Europe and then never play any shows in the States, you know, like so as to not burn every market, right? Right. If you go the States, you know, like, so as to not burn every market, right?

Starting point is 01:53:46 If you go see me, you know, if I play every summer in, you know, Tallahassee, well, it's like if that happens five or six years in a row, like eventually people, everybody in that market is going to be like, well, I've seen that dude. So the idea is if I play, I don't know why I picked Tallahassee, it's such a random city. I don't even know if we ever even played there before. I haven't know why I picked Tallahassee is such a random city. I don't even know if we ever even played there before. But if like, if you pick that city and we played there, let's say I played there in 2018, right?

Starting point is 01:54:14 And then let's say, obviously that's a weird year because COVID happens or whatever, but it's okay. It's still a year. Yeah, let's say I play there in 2021. And then the next time I'm going to play there is not till 2024. So in those three years, so much will have happened in my career. I could have maybe two new albums, a bunch more hit songs. And those people in that market, they'll

Starting point is 01:54:39 have only had the opportunity to see me the time before. They'll go, well, now I want to hear this song and this song and this song. And like he never comes down here so I want to go. Like I just want to be able to tour at a high level for a long time. And I think to do that you have to have a really long play strategy.

Starting point is 01:54:57 It can't be about, well how can I make the most money this show this weekend and charge my fans the most for tickets and do the most and sell VIP things like I've never sold a meet and greet in my life yeah like that's a big point of revenue for a lot of artists is and nothing against anybody that does that by the way I just always felt weird about it the first meet and greets I ever did were $50 and we donated all the money to a camp in Georgia for children that have cancer oh Oh yeah? Ever since then, we've never even charged for a meet and greet.

Starting point is 01:55:27 All you have to do is join the fan club and have tickets to the show and you're entered into a lottery to win. Oh damn, that's a good way to do it. Yeah, so you join the fan club and then you just put in for whatever show you're going to and it's completely free. Oh that's cool.

Starting point is 01:55:41 You come, I come in the room, do a Q&A thing, take pictures with everybody. Like, and I just feel like there's so much to already like pay for. Yeah. There's so like there's t-shirts, there's beer, there's food, there's parking, there's hotels, there's babysitters, there's tickets, there's everything. Dude, you're charged at every turn. Yeah. And the whole experience and like, I just want to meet people who came to the show, man, like whether it's their first show or their 15th show or whatever it is, man, like, it's just a way for me to like,

Starting point is 01:56:13 I just want to say thank you to just regular folks who come to my show, man, like, because they are the only reason that we have shows. Yeah. Oh, it's crazy to think that you can't figure out a way to thank them all the time. It feels like you can never thank them enough. Enough, it really is like I think about it all the times like You know sometimes I feel like the fan is the last person thought about in the music business

Starting point is 01:56:34 Like and that to me is really sad. Well, they just started a um They're finally bringing sanctions against a live nation. I think you look that up? I saw something about this recently. They're finally bringing sanctions against them or Ticketmaster, one of them. Yeah, I saw something about this on the news like two, three years ago, but I don't know enough about it. But there's definitely, you're definitely right. Here, I definitely just saw something about that.

Starting point is 01:56:57 Yeah, the Justice Department is suing Ticketmaster and Live Nation. What does that mean for concert goers? Is it for like the fees or something? I think. The Justice Department on Thursday accused Live Nation of engaging in a slew of practices that have allowed it to maintain a stronghold over the live music scene. They accused it of using long-term contracts to keep venues from choosing rival ticketers, blocking venues from using multiple ticket sellers and threatening venues that they could lose money and fans if they didn't choose Ticketmaster.

Starting point is 01:57:29 Which in then they can jack up the prices of tickets in. So they own 70% of ticketing. That's wild. That's unbelievable. That's a lot, dude. How do you ever let that happen? It just seems like they wouldn't let that happen. Did you ever go see widespread panic? Never did, man. So my best friend, Harp, the guy that jumped off then that's his like favorite band ever

Starting point is 01:57:49 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he loves them, dude, but I've never been I've never seen him. I like them dude there. They jam though They jam for sure. Did you follow a jam band ever? No, I never followed a jam band Never followed around the country. God damn, you fucking lazy. I haven't lived, man. I haven't lived. Yeah, it just seemed like you were being so lazy back then. I was. Didn't you want to make grilled cheese

Starting point is 01:58:12 and own a German shepherd? I wanted to sell seashell earrings out of my van. You know what I mean? Dude, one time this dude was selling grilled cheeses and the dog looked like it wanted out of there. Yeah, it lives in a, it probably never gets any grilled cheese by the way. Oh, it was, yeah, the dog I think was running on a little treadmill, even just powering

Starting point is 01:58:32 the grilled cheese maker. Sometimes those van guys in those outside of concerts are pretty wild. They got figured out. Is there like a big tailgate? Do some artists have like a big tailgate thing that that's part of their culture? Yeah, for sure. You know, we do, gosh, we do a big tailgate? Do some artists have like a big tailgate thing that that's part of their culture? Yeah, for sure. You know, we do, gosh, we do a big tailgate on like this weekend we have, or this

Starting point is 01:58:52 year we have Friday and Saturday shows at all the same cities. So on Saturday we have, you've heard a whiskey jam, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, it's fun. So Ward and the whiskey jam folks come out and they bring up-and-coming artists out. We have a stage outside the stadium and all that's free. Wow. So, I mean, you don't really don't even have to have a ticket to the show to come to that if you don't want to. So on Saturdays, man, like we really try to, we've worked hard to like build, to like foster the culture of our shows and how we want that experience to be for our fans.

Starting point is 01:59:24 Like, I mean, the whole weekend,, they get discounts at certain hotels if they're in my fan club and we work with all these different people to make them have- Wow, that's amazing to do that. Yeah, to make them have the best experience that we can have. And so yeah, the tailgating thing, dude, I mean, obviously the Chesney tailgate culture is unbelievable. Yeah. As was like the Buffett stuff.

Starting point is 01:59:49 We went out, but I think country has such a great, it's just in general kind of tailgating vibe. Because I think a lot of those fans, like I think of like the college football fan base to me, like there's so much correlation in the country music fan base to that. And that culture is so similar. It's just fun, right? Like that's what it should be.

Starting point is 02:00:12 I think people want to have fun. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's like the other night we were in Miami. I was with Caleb actually, who your buddy's with. Yep. And we were going to some club, but then we had more fun in the car on the way. They are just listening to country music. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:26 And then we got to the club and we're like, this sucks. You're like, dude, I can't imagine. So that's just trash, dude. I love Caleb dude. He's always something else. He said he used to manage you too, did he? I don't think I don't, I wouldn't say that probably. No, no, definitely not.

Starting point is 02:00:43 He seems like someone who would be lying about that probably Yeah, he's a he's a special guy man, he's one he's one of a kind Dude, we were we were buddies back in the day man Like he was I think I was a senior and he was a freshman I think but he was like and what was he like the Rapunzel of the team cousin? It wasn't he was like the guy like if a quarterbacks got hurt, right. Like as a freshman, he would like come in, then he would get a notification on his phone and then he could show up to the game.

Starting point is 02:01:14 Yeah. He got a free ticket to the game. But we did, but I rode the pine hard and obviously he wasn't playing because, you know, he was a freshman or whatever. So, and because yeah, it wasn't never gonna, but never gonna but did you um did were you any good at football no I was trash really yeah it's terrible God didn't apply myself man I feel like I could have been good but dude I was too busy singing all the time dude I mean I was in choir every day of high school for I mean every day of public school

Starting point is 02:01:42 from sixth grade to when I graduated I I was in course class every day. And did you ever integrate or try and date women that were on the flag team? We didn't have that. No flag team. No way. How do you not even have a flag team? Wouldn't y'all have like a local military or anything? You mean like ROTC?

Starting point is 02:02:01 Oh, you mean like, yeah, I thought you meant like. Oh yeah, we had flag team. Usually there was a lot of crossover in that. You think? Oh, a lot of our men are the children of flag team women. That's that can't be real. That can't be a real stat. I hope that's a real stat. You're telling me you're honestly going to tell me Luke, that a lot of ROTC men aren't the children of

Starting point is 02:02:28 It's possible. I think of Flag flag women flag team relationships. Yeah Okay, yeah, I think there's a possibility that there could be some correlation there, you know, I think there is Yeah, I probability the new album um It comes out For Friday before Father's Day Friday before Father's Day. Yeah, yeah Spas and sons yeah fathers and sons. Yep should be good man. I'm excited. Hope people enjoy it. You know yeah for what it is you know Well, it's important to for people to people to take time, if you can,

Starting point is 02:03:05 to reflect on those relationships. It's hard sometimes. Sometimes you get so busy, you don't even think about what somebody means to you. Sure, sure, man. It's it's important stuff, man. And I think, you know, there's so many different paths that people have had growing up with their with their dads or their moms even. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think there's something in these songs that,

Starting point is 02:03:24 you know, can translate to anybody. It just happens to be fathers and sons for me cuz I got two boys and maybe that changes one day and they'll be mothers and- Yeah, you never know. I don't know where it could lead but- You could be a woman. The songs mean a lot to me and I think you know I hope that I hope that people can relate to him and listen to him and love him as much as I do sure yeah it's important to have anthems

Starting point is 02:03:53 that go along with how we feel sometimes that's about it Luke yeah absolutely yeah thanks for coming in before go, do artists start thinking more about collaborations now these days? Does that seem like something that seems, goes through a phase where it seems more fun or more accepted or more? I think there's definitely phases to it. You know, I think there's a lot of,

Starting point is 02:04:15 I think I've noticed that a lot of brands are doing collaborations now too, like, I don't know, like the McDonald's and Long John Silver's, the McFish, you know what I mean? The McFish Silver, dude, you know? Oh yeah, there's always something, there's always doing that. But it's like Crocs and, you know,

Starting point is 02:04:33 J'Kar Noir clone, you know, it's like a scratch and sniff J'Kar Noir croc or something like that, you know? You know what I mean? It's like something like that, you know? Yes, smell like a croc. Available only at Walgreens or something, you know what I mean? It's like... Sniff this crock or whatever.

Starting point is 02:04:46 Like they I have for sure a pair of KFC branded Crocs that smell like KFC chicken. Oh, that's a real thing. I have that in my heart. You don't get a lot of shots to have those. But I have the rare to get it. It's stock. I did. You know, I mean, it you a pair dude. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:05:05 It's you're the limited release dude. You know what I mean? Yeah. I tell funny all my crocs are just clabs that smell like sweat. Once you see if you had mine it would there it is dude. Kentucky Fried sold out dog. God damn it was sold out. And they got a chicken jibbing on top dude. Oh wow. It's like a drumstick. It's like comes with it dude I hope doesn't cost extra. Yeah On your bucket list god, that's beautiful and you open them you can tie them tighter So those those little nugget this little no the little nuggets. They smell like chicken Well, I'll pay I'll pay more for ones that don't What about Jim it's dude there they are. Fried gibets right there.

Starting point is 02:05:46 Damn brother. I might have to get me a set of gibets and- Smell like fried chicken dude. Says it on there. It does really? Yep. Oh God. They're not going to be offering that for long.

Starting point is 02:05:55 I will say this though. Did you see the squallet? It's like a wallet, a squirrel wallet. Go to squallet website. Squall it. They're sold out for years to come. Oh no. Just till September of 24.

Starting point is 02:06:13 Yeah. Get that squall it. Get on there. Look at this Tommy. And this is a support. Believable. Now, hold on. This does support our veterans. I do want you to know.

Starting point is 02:06:26 I love that. Does that mean I can't laugh at it though? That doesn't mean I can laugh. You can laugh for sure. We can laugh. It's awesome, dude. Yeah. I hope we have one to sell some right here.

Starting point is 02:06:33 The squallet. These squirrel wallets are made with real squirrel pelts. I love this so much. The fur is super soft and pliable. Why is this something I need? I need one of these, dude. I'll get you a dang squalet. Get me a squalet, dude.

Starting point is 02:06:46 Get me a squalet. Well, where are you gonna keep all your love for your lady at? You don't have a damn. A squalet. A squalet. And look, can you look at some of the other products, please?

Starting point is 02:06:57 So we're not just- On this website? Ogling the squalet, yeah. Just go to shop, maybe. See what they got. You got a skunk koozie right there. The skewzy. I got a skewzy, a raccoozie as well. Golf club head cover. Now we're talking to it. Let's see it zoom. Yeah. Let's get this going.

Starting point is 02:07:21 Oh, that's fresh. Oh, that's a possum dude. Zoom in on it. Not the backside of it. This guy's a damn pervert. Zoom in on the front. You're crazy. Yeah. It's a golf head club. Oh wow.

Starting point is 02:07:32 It's fresh possum. It's only 54. Be the head of the Lynx. Yeah, dude. Gosh. Oh man. The eyes are scary. Play dead.

Starting point is 02:07:41 Play dad. It says as well. That's a father's day gift right there. Play dad, dude. Oh, let's. Play dad a father's day gift right there. Play dad, dude. Play dead. And one other, they gotta have one other good item on here. We had a guy that sold a German shepherd fur coat by us. Coyouse.

Starting point is 02:07:57 That Coyouse and that's coyote maybe? Yep, coyouse was a coyote coozie. That's squeezie, let me see that squeezie was a coyote koozie. That's squeezy. Let me see that squeezy, bruh. The skoonzy. Ooh yeah, that's beautiful. Skunk.

Starting point is 02:08:12 Look at the eyes though, dude. The eyes are freaking me out, dude. Yeah, you might be able to buy a little shades for them. But these are six, these are almost $65. They get in a variety of sizes, such as tall, boy, slim, and almost $65. They can have a variety of sizes, such as tall boys, slim and standard. Yeah. They could do that.

Starting point is 02:08:27 Happy St. Patrick's day. The themed out. Why is there a happy St. Patrick's day? Fucking. God, that just shows what they think of the Irish. That's the worst part. Are the, are the tall boy ones more expensive than the other ones? No, actually the schoonzy is that one's almost $65. The squalor was only $54 bucks.

Starting point is 02:08:57 So squalor. But yeah, we had a dude selling a German shepherd fur coat by us when I was young. I remember it's seen this whole deal. He only had one. He might've had two. Seems like there's probably a lot of regulations to this business here. Like this be selling like just kind of random animal pelts to people. Like, are these, with these farm raised or with wild caught here?

Starting point is 02:09:25 This is farm to table. Yeah. This is street to table dude. You know what I mean? Hey, go to my TikToks real quick. I want to see one that I looked at. You see this? This has been my dream for like nine years.

Starting point is 02:09:38 I had a big band. A couple of white kids made a, um, bought it for a hundred dollars, took it to Minnesota and didn't make a sound. I just scrapped it instead. So. couple of white kids made a Limousine sauna You want to have an intro bro? This is on fire. Believe only outside. Why do they have burners ginger rails on top dude? And how are these men just meeting each other? And then they're just getting in the snow.

Starting point is 02:10:19 See, this is why I don't meet men online. That's America, dude, right there. That is okay. What state are we going with here, dude? What's our state? Oh, this, well, you have to have snow. I'm gonna say... Sauna, I feel like, oh, there's a license plate. What was that license plate?

Starting point is 02:10:36 I'm gonna say Canada, probably. Southern Canada, Northern America. Saunasine, dude. Tea at Trademark, I love how you put the trademark on there. Yeah, dude. Like, someone's gonna be like, man, I gotta get that Sa man. I gotta get that sound is he I gotta steal that idea that said New Hampshire, New Hampshire Yeah, sound is in dude But that wood looks extreme the fumes from that wood could easily kill all four or five of those men for you guys I can't see at home. There's a lot of men getting into a

Starting point is 02:11:01 sauna has been created inside of a limousine and That's definitely just smoke in there. And why is there ginger ale's on top? I think the real question. That's a beverage bar. You have to have a, uh, a ginger. It's open bar bar on the, on the sound of zine. That's open bar Luke Luke comes congrats on the new album man. Thank you falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone

Starting point is 02:11:48 oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of my life out I can feel it in my bones

This Past Weekend - E509 Luke Combs

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