This Past Weekend - E541 BigXthaPlug

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

BigXthaPlug is a rapper from Dallas, Texas. His new album “Take Care” is streaming everywhere, and you can catch him on tour now through the rest of the year.  BigXthaPlug joins Theo to chat about his recent rise in popularity and the changes that came with it, how he manages being a dad and a rapper at the same time, and why he might be down to go on a test voyage to space.  BigXthaPlug: https://www.instagram.com/bigxthaplug/?hl=en  ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Kalshi: Bet on the election! Get a free $20 bonus with a $100+ deposit http://kalshi.com/theo  Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Manscaped: Go to http://manscaped.com and use code THEO to get 20% off and free shipping.  BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com and use code THEO to get your first month free - just pay $5 shipping. Shopify: Go to http://shopify.com/theo to sign up for a $1-per-month trial period. BetterHelp: go to http://betterhelp.com/theo to get 10% off your first month.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/  Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/  Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Texas. There are some tickets still available, theovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Make sure to go through that link so you're getting fair priced tickets. Today's guest is a rapper out of Dallas, Texas. He has his new album, Take Care, which he's on tour with right now. He has hit songs, Texas, Whip It, Mm-hmm, and others. We're grateful for his time. Today's guest is Big X, The Plug. I'm off the stage. Where'd you just come from? From Torrent?

I'm gonna move this down and you will tell us. Where'd we just come from? Louisville, Kentucky. Oh yeah. Yes sir. How was that, alright? Yeah, it was good. It was good. Yeah. I Yes sir. How was that, all right? Yeah, it was good, it was good.

I didn't think, was it sold out? No. But it was packed. 95%, yeah, it was crazy though. They got a lot of horses up there too. I'm into the horse track up there. Y'all just from say, don't they do like derbies and stuff? Yeah, it's nice.

Some of the horses are strong. Some of them aren't that strong. What else has been going on? Yeah, I was just up in Montana. We had some shows up there. Met some Native Americans up there. Okay. You ever met any Native Americans?

Like a real life one? I don't think so. We met a couple up there. They're pretty cool, man. We was up at uh, I met, we were at AutoZone up there and they had a couple Native Americans up there and we met them. And uh, yeah they're just wild and they have a lot of good weed too a lot of times. Oh okay then yeah I probably would have bumped into a few if I was there. But I heard this beautiful out, Shabuza,

that's one of my close friends, and he was just out there shooting video, and he was like, bro, I'm finna move out here, it's crazy out here. He's so nice. I gotta make sure I stop by there for sure. Yeah, it looks like you're on another, like, I mean, it looks like you're on this planet, but on it just like on the best parts of it.

Yeah. You look out there, and they got all kind of exotic animals too out there. It's crazy. That's why I think yeah Yeah, Native Americans have the best weed. I've always heard that I've never gotten to smoke any with them They got that shit that'll bring your dead relatives back, you know, they got that real they got that Sue say your gas Do I do I want to smoke?

That's true, I guess if you owe somebody some money, maybe you just let them be where they're at. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not for sure. Yeah, and they had the best pets too. Think about it, Native Americans had the best pets, man. Falcon, buffalo, eagles. I'm scared of all that type of stuff. Really? I'm scared of any animal that's for one, bigger than me.

So like horses, cows, I'm terrified of them. Yeah, that makes sense. And then just eagles and that stuff, like, you can't really do nothing about those. So if they fly down and grab you and grip skin off, you can't do nothing to them. So, you know, I don't do bugs. I don't do exotic lizards.

I don't do snakes. I don't... Really? I can see you with a nice bird, man. With a bird? Yeah. I do have a bird, my daughter's name, her nickname is Bird.

Oh it is? That's as good as it gets. I was terrified right there. Oh wow. Yeah, I was terrified. You saw him far away, all the way in from the horse? Oh it is, yeah, yeah, you kept your distance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow. Did you even FaceTime with that thing first or they just brought him straight up? No, they just brought it. Oh. They just brought it. Yeah, that kind of stuff is a lot, man. Horses make me nervous too. They're just so big and you don't trust them, you know?

Exactly. And I don't trust anything that only can see out of the side of its head. That too, that too. You know, that's how I really feel about a lot of animals, but did you ever have any pets growing up? Yeah, a lot of dogs. Oh yeah?

What kind do y'all have? Rott Wallace, right now I have a Cane Corso, I have two pocket bullies, got a Frenchie. But just, yeah, yeah, yeah. That actually looks just like my dog Sasha that's at the house right now with the white patches and everything. And does y'all have a chain on it?

No, no, she's horrible, she's bad. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you even pet her or not? No, no, she's she's horrible. She's bad. So I really yeah Can you even pet her now? You know you can pet her with not but she just Oh god, but once you once you smell you she good and you locked in I don't wouldn't even risk it. See you I get scared getting high around dangerous animals. That's one of my big things You know, I would have sometimes trouble smoking with the brothers when I was young because a lot of them would bring a dog with them and if we got high it just made me too nervous man I'd get out of my own car and leave everybody in there one time because I couldn't handle it. Well you might want to stay away from that weed in the mountains.

Yeah I stay off that native stuff man, thank you so much for joining us for our Be here. Yeah, congratulations on all your success man. So appreciate it's exciting. Yeah, I love listening to your Your songs like the but they all have this beginning that kind of creates this like It almost feels like it's a start of a movie. It's like Before like you come in with the lyrics. It's like it's a start of a movie. It's like, before like you come in with the lyrics, it's like there's this, each one has like this ambiance that gets going. Who makes that?

How do y'all make that choice? Like, how does that happen? When I just, I've been with the same producers for about two, three years now, band play, Tony Coe's. And so we kind of just know each other's like souls at this point. And so they just, you know, they go based off of what they feel like I would mess with in a song and then they go from there.

Tony pick out the sample, man play through the 808 side of the beat and zone and then it just go. They know I like, I'm a build up person. So that beginning, that's my build up. Yeah, it almost feel kind of romantic in the beginning. Some of it. I love the shit, get you in the mood, get you ready. It make you want to hear what I'm about to say.

The video with the skydiving, did y'all really skydive in it? No, I would never skydive in my life. Really? Oh, you go down quick. Skydive, bungee jump. I'm one of those people who believe in like, I just feel like I would have a heart attack before I got, you know, I was faint or something so now I can't pull my string. So I just rather not do it.

I just rather not do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why some people do it. I wonder if they have a lot of, yeah, the video, that was so tough, man. How did y'all shoot it though? Did you guys have like a fake chopper fake a fake plane a lot of air and Great actor. Yeah, anybody want me in the movie. There you go

Yeah, you can be in like a paratrooper movie man. Sure It don't look like I feel that fast. That's like I feel ever at a decent rate I would drop fast right there It did seem like you were that cuz I was kind of when I was watching that cuz usually if people are really fine You see like the cheeks going like that and I was like man. It seemed like he's kind of going at a casual speed But that's when you know, you got when you got a vibe or when you can skydive at a casual speed We can do it your own way What's happening in Texas, man? Still hot.

How has your life changed over there? Like, even in the past two years, probably. I mean, for me, it hasn't really changed. I still do the same daily stuff I would do if I was home. But of course, everybody know me now, so now instead of going to Walmart, I now have to do curbside pickups. Now, you know, it's just stuff like that.

But as far as me and my home and my family, ain't nothing really changed. We still, everybody kick it when we can. You know, if not, I'm at home with my kids, chilling. You know, nothing too major. I don't, I'm as basic as it get. I don't, you know, I don't treat myself like a superstar or nothing like that, so.

Is it, does it feel overwhelming sometimes with people knowing you as much? Is it sometimes a little bit like, what is it like? Does it feel kind of like alarming sometimes? Does it feel like what you thought it would feel like? Cause it's, a lot of people don't get to become, get to have that much Popularity right it just so it's interesting when it does happen to somebody because it's just a rare thing

Yeah, I mean I mean as far as like I was popular in school But it is like after that era faded out I started doing stuff that it's like you kind of don't want people to know like to know who you are And that's I gotta let people get this close to me before I know if they're friends or foe It's like you kind of don't want people to know, like to know who you are. And that's how I gotta let people get this close to me before I know if they're friends or foes. So of course it bothers me, but I mean, they come with the job.

So I just gotta keep big guys like him around me. Yes, sir. Yeah, that's a good choice there. And yeah, is it more dangerous? Because I think like, it's funny, sometimes if you're just like a regular guy, nobody will try to shoot you, but then when you're a rapper, people try to shoot you.

Yeah, yeah, you definitely, it's just a lot of, you know, just like it's God in the world, it's the devil, you know, it's the devil too, man. You know, the paths that some people decide to take, it's the devil. It's the devil too, man. The paths that some people decide to take is not always the right one. So you just gotta kinda be prepared for it. Yeah, you're a target because everybody feel like

you got all this money, all of this. People don't even know, so a lot of these major artists, all they have is that chain and that watch. They don't got no money, so you just did what you did for the chain and the watch. Me, I try to treat everybody as equals. So like when a person walk up on me, I'm gonna give you that picture. I'm gonna talk to you as if you're a normal person, because that's what makes somebody want to get you when you know I'm good. You know, that's what set when you when you showed them that separation. Yeah, that's when they want

what you do. You're too fancy, yeah. Exactly, exactly. For rappers, it just feels like, it just feels a little bit more dangerous, I feel like. Like, do you have to keep like a EMT with, like do your, people know CPR on your team and stuff like that, or what is it like? I ain't gonna lie, fellas. If we get to that point,

don't try to put your lips on me. Don't try to put your lips on me. Y'all find the nearest woman and y'all teach her how to do it, but don't try to put your lips on me. Bro, you could have some girl sitting there watching a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah, I can't go through that. Bro, you ain't gonna feel it, bro, you gonna be just.

But when I come to, that's a question you gotta ask. You know, when you come to gonna feel it, but you gonna be just when I come to that's a question You gotta ask you know when you come to and you say what happened so there's a there's gonna be that goddess in the back of the room like Yeah, that's true you have to look him in the eye You don't know whether to say thank you or let's fight Hey next time time ask first. And then my partner so funny that they ain't gonna do nothing but make a joke about it.

I almost died and y'all talking about some, but y'all kissed though, y'all kissed. You know, so. You alive but you a little zesty now. Just find the nearest woman. Find the nearest woman for me. I don't care how old she is. Just find the nearest woman, please. Yeah, that's how old she is. Just find the nearest woman, please

Yeah, that's what I just wonder I think I would keep it if I was in the rap I would have somebody bow and arrow somebody with a couple Chompers on them everything Draco's everything guns fucking Magic metal fucking ninja stars all of that shit, boy. I mean, you just pray for the best. Axe, I would have everything, bro. I'd have somebody just walking around, look like they were in one of those video games where they have all the weapons behind them like that.

Like when they get ready to go to war, they pack all of their weapons, but then they don't use none of them. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Even cops now, they got so many things on them. They got a taser, they got a gun, they got a sling shot, they got a pepper spray, they got a fucking, you know, a thing of marbles.

They got all kind of shit on them, bro. You'll see they got a... I've never seen an officer with a bag of marbles. But they got so many things now, bro. He got a camera, they got a little spatula. You know, a thing of just breath mint. He's just shooting Mentos at people, you know? They got, I couldn't even imagine running around with all that stuff on me now.

Yeah, they do. They gotta chase people there. Yeah, that's crazy. On top of the Vixx. Yeah, they built like a 7-Eleven and they gotta run around and chase everybody down. It's too much. Everybody would get away from me if I was a police man. I'll catch you eventually. Yeah, they built like a 7-Eleven and they got to run around and chase everybody down. That's too much. Everybody would get away from me if I was a police man. I'll catch you eventually.

Hey, I'll catch you in the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see you again. Because I couldn't. I wouldn't. Did you, what was like a first job that you had, man? My first ever job was Taco Cabana. I was 16.

I was getting paid seven, I was supposed to get paid $725, but when I started working, my first day he said, $725, no, you're too good of a worker, I'll pay you $750. And I just thought I was that guy. $750, woo! That was my first ever check, my first check was like, $200, two weeks work. I was so pleased.

Bro, when you got that first check, it was nice, huh? No, I was so upset, it was like $200, $300, two weeks weeks work. Bro, when you got that first check, it was nice, huh? No, I was so upset. It was like two, $300. Oh. Two weeks of work. Yeah, I was so mad, but I kept going. I kept going. And how long were you in over there at the Cabana? Maybe like a month, a month and a half.

Damn, you didn't keep going at all. I've never had a job over four or five months. Really? What was it about it, you think? Did y'all have some, like, was it contractual issues? What was the deal over there? As bad as it sounds, it's just something about somebody telling me what to do. You know what I'm saying?

Especially in that aspect, it's like, you're not even the big dog. You work for them just like I work for them, and you sitting here telling me what to do. Exactly. I just always felt like, I watched my mom and my pops growing up. They were entrepreneurs, so they was their own bosses. And here I am working at Taco Cabana getting paid $750.

When I would rather be my own boss. Yeah. So I think that's probably, me having that first job is probably what made me start wanting to do stuff to just be my own entity, my own boss, because that was horrible. Having somebody telling you when to come in, telling you what to do at the job,

I just, I couldn't do it. Yeah. Couldn't do it. And was any of the food pretty good, or was it like? Yeah, yeah, they used to have this little, I don't even know what the bowl's called, it's like a bowl shell. Like it's a bowl, but it's like the bowl is a shell.

And inside of that you got like your meats, your guacamole, your rice, beans. I like all that. You can just crush the bowl. Exactly. Hey, whoever's doing that is doing a great job. Oh, we about to pay that dude 750 an hour I'll tell you that

We keep it in. Get a new job Good that's like a little magic hat or something filled with a down little Thanksgiving and a little Mexican Thanksgiving in there That was my every time I would leave work. That's what I was thinking with me Yeah, Cabana Boat. And what y'all had dessert choices up there too? Sopa Pias. Oh yeah. Sopa Pias. God bro, with ice cream with them?

Not ice cream, but like some little ice in the head. I love those. But yeah, Sopa Pias. That was my first time ever having a Sopa Pia was at that job. It was my favorite thing to make there. Yeah. You just gotta drop in some grease, come out, like the little perfect little square thing,

dip it in the sauce, you good. Oh yeah. And y'all could smoke on the job, was that allowed or not? No. And this was, I was a football player at that time, so I wasn't really just smoking. I ain't really, I was on the hoes mode, other stuff. See, whenever I had jobs,

it's when I was kinda like on a different path. Whenever I didn't have was kind of like on a different path. Whenever I didn't have a job it was a different path. I was trying to be my own boss at that time. What was, you said one of your folks they had their own business, what work, what was their business they had? I mean it wasn't nothing that you could like write off on your taxes, you know you could do taxes or whatever. You know, but yeah, yeah. They paid the bills. They got the bills paid.

Nobody fell out of W9. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. But the bills was paid, it was closed on my back, and you know, there was a roof over my head, so I can't complain about it. Yeah, not at all, man. Um, are your parents still married or no no? This broke up before I even came out the room Oh wow, but you know they still good friends they they both helped take care of me got maybe me and I am today so I mean it worked out for me when um

What when you had because you have how many children you said you have one daughter? Yeah, I got a I have a newborn little girl. She's about to be eight months and I got a little boy He's about to be six. Nice. Oh, I think I saw one of your videos maybe Is easy cool, yeah, yeah, what does he like to do? Cause have it so my little boy got autism. So he just, he's just real, he's him, you know, like he, he's the one he'll see here and be quiet one moment. And the next moment he trying to take something from you and run around with it. He just, he a character man. He is all entity within himself. He a Carter. Oh, he's handsome guy. Just like his daddy.

Just like his daddy. Yeah. But yeah. What, if he has, so autism, does he have like, is it almost really interesting having a child with autism? Because it almost seems like it's more of a complex relationship. So they're actually, they're actually some of the smartest kids in the world, smartest people in the world. Oh yeah, Elon Musk had all those guys out of autism,

the guys that are making all the machinery now. So really? You gotta have autism to even get a damn job at some of these joints. But so, like with him, it's more like of his speech. Like I could tell him, turn on the TV, I could ask him which one to watch, he can point it out, it's just his speech. Like his words are not on any.

But if you tell him, I love you, he'll say, I love you. Like he can repeat anything you say, whether it's good or bad, he can repeat it. It's just like he can't put it all together himself you know I'm saying but he's normal this could be he's smart as I don't know what he know any kid that can that knows how to jump a fence he's something to go get in the pool that knows how to say I want to go to dad's house and then when he gets to dad's house say poor like I only came here for the pool okay That's the only reason I came.

He knows how to get in, I don't have to put thumbprint codes on my pantries, because when he's with his mommy, he eats like a lot of organic foods. And when he comes to Dad's house, you got the good snacks. So now he know how to get in my pantry and climb up the, yeah, Carter is a character,

but that's my dog, man, that's my dog. Were you scared about having children when you was gonna have them? Like, cause I, you know, I would like to have children. I don't have any yet, but I would like to have some, but sometimes I'm like, man, is it just gonna be such a big change, you know? I mean, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta leave a legacy.

You gotta, I've always wanted to, I grew up in big families, like, so on my dad's side, it was whenever we did Christmas together, everybody was spending the night at grandma house. Everybody was, like my granny got, I got what? One, two, three, my granny got five kids. My dad got six kids. You know what I'm saying?

Like, so that just, it's just big over there. And on my mom's side, everybody just got kids. So it's just, I just grew up in a big family. So I knew I always wanted a big family. I didn't think I was gonna start as early as I did, but I really feel like I'm doing better because my mom and my dad, they was, my mom was 15, my dad, you see what I'm saying?

So. Yeah, a lot of, we had, in our, yeah, in our town, a lot of the young, a lot of the sisters, they got a little bit pregnant. Early, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you didn't even, we didn't even know. We thought a lot of them just got kind of thick or whatever. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Like one summer or whatever. Yeah. And then we were like, damn, everybody's thick all of a sudden. Yeah, everybody got that baby. Yeah, and everybody had a, then they all had a baby. Yeah, they had a lot of them babies in our area. Yeah, I think that would be the wild thing.

So were you already rapping when you had your son? No. Wow, so was it kind of nervous, like how I'm gonna take care of him or it wasn't like, it wasn't? I was sleeping, I was at my granny house, sleeping on the couch. I had just got a job at UPS.

Oh yeah. And uh. They got good benefits over there. No, not unless you're a manager, or like something to that sort. Or you gotta work there a certain amount of time. It's not good, it's not good. But, um, yeah I had just, I was staying in Austin, Texas.

Whenever I went to school, got kicked out of school, I went to stay in Austin, Texas with the mother of Carter and I went to jail got out where she was staying that I was I wasn't supposed to go to no more like I had a restraining order I had a restraining order from the apartment complex because what I had did was in the apartment complex okay so when I got out we did what we did the one last time I left to go back to Dallas, she called me three months later telling me that she was pregnant.

I said, I'm sleeping on the couch at my granny house. And I could tell it was all right, babe. I'm finna move you out here. I'm on somebody's couch right now. You can come sleep on this couch with me, but I'm gonna get us right. She came, I think she slept on the couch with me maybe two, three weeks.

And then I had this apartment, it wasn't no furniture, them first week or two we slept on the- Oh, they sit on each other lap. What? On a pallet on the floor. I'll be the chair, you be the chair, take turns. Exactly, but we made it work.

Wow. That's wild, man. That takes some commitment, huh? Yeah, that's why she's forever taken care of. We're not even together now. She got everything she could think of, you know what I'm saying? Times 10, so.

You have a lot of respect for her, it sounds like. For sure, for sure. If it wasn't for her, I probably wouldn't be here. Yeah. And that's just me being honest. What did you go to jail? Did you say you went to jail? What did you go to jail for?

So. Well, how about this? What were the holidays like in jail? Ha ha ha! What holiday did I spend in jail? Did I spend the holidays? I think I spent, no I did. I spent Thanksgiving in jail. Oh yeah, what's it like? Do people get up early?

Is there anything special like on that? Uh, you know what, I think about it though. I was in solitary confinement though, for that Thanksgiving. So boom. Yeah, yeah, about it. I was in solitary confinement though for that Thanksgiving. So boom. No, no Yeah, I was I was Yeah, I was So it was just a bunch of screaming from door to door Would you just hear people voices do people at least sing like uh,

I mean you got there's people that sit there. That's actually crazy You know what i'm saying? So they actually do scream and do all of that stuff But they scream anything special like because it's Thanksgiving that's what I'm wondering oh no no no no I was screaming something special on the day I got out it was a Tuesday like the day I was supposed to go to court it was a Tuesday yeah so when I woke up to take my shower I was just I was singing Tuesday Tuesday like if you ever seen Norby he was in the shower knowing that he had to go to the water park with our girl on a Tuesday.

That's exactly how it was. Everybody that was in that room was just dying laughing. That's a happy day then. Yeah, it was a happy day. Wow, so yeah, thanks. What about Halloween, were you in there? Nah, Halloween I was out. Thanksgiving, yeah.

So do y'all get a special meal or like is there any? I mean, yeah, they give you a little scoop of dressing and that, but it's just not the same as. Do y'all go around the table and like say what you're thankful for or anything like that? Nah, I doubt that's how it went. You see, there you go. Aw, who are those guys?

I don't know them. Oh. I don't know them. Yeah, look, I mean, it definitely, yeah, it seems, yeah, I guess it wouldn't be the best. It wouldn't be the best. Like really, holidays in jail, I feel like they're not really celebrated because that's the time where everybody

wishes they was with their family. You know what I'm saying? So that's when everybody, it's kind of intense because everybody's upset. Everybody wanna be with their kids, their moms, their, you know what I'm saying? So everybody just kind of try to get through the day. Yeah, that's a good point out there.

I've thought about that. You kind of almost pretend like it's not that day. Exactly. Did they have like a lot of gay activity in jail? Did you see any of it? Or you hear about it sometimes on the internet? There was one gay experience for me in jail and there was an older dude that had,

he was in there from stealing a bunch of wood from Home Depot. Damn, probably gonna build him a little gay hut. I don't know, but he had been in there. A little sass shack. He had been in there, I don't think nobody knew that he was like that or whatever, but you could tell he had been down a lot.

Like he done went to jail a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah. And there was a guy that came in there that was a dentist, but he was a member of the LGBTQ community. Okay. And he came in with nothing, though. Like, he was from, this is right when- He was a dentist?

Yeah, but he was an illegal dentist. You see what I'm saying? Like, so he knew how to do teeth, but he didn't have- He didn't have a storefront. Or the paperwork or anything. He just, you know what I'm saying? Exactly, he just knew how to do teeth, but he didn't have he'd have a storefront or the paperwork or anything But he was from he's from Mexico this is when they were this is when the whole ice situation was going on and they were catching a bunch of the illegals and and Sending them back and so my my pie was a bunch of illegals and he was one of the illegals

But he just happened to be a part of the Edgy Bee, you know what I'm saying? Right, he was a gay gentleman but he also did dental. He did dental. And he would do dental in the... No, no, no, that's how he got arrested. When he got pulled over he had a bunch of dentist equipment and dentist stuff in his trunk and he just, there was no license. Wow. Yeah, so that's what got him but then on top of that, like I said, he was illegal. Yeah. So, but yeah, he didn't have nothing and the old G, the old school, he had some stuff. And so he just basically took care of him and he had to take care of him. So it was just kind of like a prison, kind of a love story almost.

Exactly. We weren't even in prison. We was just in jail. But that, yeah, that kind of, that messed me up though. Yeah. That messed me up. Yeah. So no, but even then at least you get to see somebody having some romance. I guess that was almost. I didn't see anything. Yeah.

Or you get to, or I guess it's, yeah, I don't know. I didn't see anything. I just, you know, you kind of put two and two together. But I bet some people get a little bit envious like at least he got somebody You know, I Mean, hey, I don't know. I didn't think that way. Yeah, I just mean either dude That's love is love though Yeah, if people are in for a long time, I could see how if somebody's in for a long time and they're not gonna get out

They say I'm just gonna have to figure this out over here and call. I mean, if you in jail, if you're in prison for the rest of your life, no, I can't even say that because then that is a situation if I was to ever go to prison for the rest of my life. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. We're here now. Yeah, yeah. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Wow, man. Yeah, I guess I Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. Wow, man. Yeah, I guess I wonder what the holidays are like in there and stuff like that, but is there anything that you missed? Wait, what's the difference between jail and prison?

I've never been to prison, so I can't really tell you how bad prison get, but from what I've heard, it's just, I mean, you gotta, it's, see, jail, you possibly going home, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can go home. Prison, you know, you're there for a little bit. So, that's when it's more hostile, it's more gangs,

it's more, you know what I'm saying? That's where that stuff takes a play in, like the gang wars in there and the racial stuff. That stuff is real in prison. They hate all that. Some people say that the feds is better than prison, just because of the strength. It's for one, I guess a lot more people with money there. So, and there's just a lot more stuff there,

like tablets, you know what I mean? Everybody got tablets now, even in prison, they got tablets. But it's just, you know what I'm saying, for a while. Swings, recess type shit, outdoor stuff. I have never been to prison, I've never been to the feds, so I don't know, I'm just going off of what I've been told. But I know if jail sucked, prison gotta be worse. And the feds gotta be worse than that. Damn.

You know, so it's just like, but if I ever go there and do some time, I'd rather go to the feds. Because they just look like they're not free, but they're freer. You know what I'm saying? So a little more relaxed. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna ever go to prison or not. I mean, overall I would probably, I would hope I didn't,

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like at least kept you some motivation. So you said like, you learned that, okay, I don't really like working for somebody else, right? And I know that you played football for a while. When did you like think like then rap is something I have to do? Did it just kind of turn on? Did it just kind of go away? I don't really like working for somebody else right and I know that you played football for a while When did you like think like then rap is something I have to do did it just kind of turn on for you? I mean, I think you're obviously a good communicator. So you have that that was built into you

When did it start to become lyrical for you? so When I told you I was in solitary confinement for Thanksgiving. I had missed my son's first birthday, me in jail. And so when I got out, I knew I never wanted to work a real job, obviously. And on top of that, when I got out, I just couldn't do what I was doing no more.

Like all the street activity I was doing, I had made a promise to my son, that like, you'll never not see your dad again. I'll never miss another birthday. I'll never miss another anything, even though I kinda told a promise to my son that like you'll never not see your dad again. I never miss another birthday I never miss another anything even though I kind of Told a story cuz here I am here and he's in Texas You know I'm saying but this is me doing what I got to do to benefit him right here. So but Yeah, so I got out made the promises to him and so I just had to figure that I had a

He's not my artist, but he also my cousin. He was just a good friend at the time. He just was like, he'd been rapping since he was nine years old. He's your real cousin? Yeah. Okay. And so he had been telling me forever, you need to rap, you need to rap,

because we would do like little freestyle sessions and what not, and I would freestyle. And it'd be a group of us, but he would just look at me and be like, bro, you need to rap for real. But I'm like, bro, you've been rapping since nine years old and you ain't blew up yet. Why would I do that?

You know, why would I? Exactly. But whenever I got out and I just really didn't have nothing else, you know what I'm saying? Like what I was saying, I was really trying to live up to that promise that I made to my son. So whenever he was like rap, I was like, all right, big. And I tried it, maybe like three songs.

I liked the feedback I got from him, you know what I'm saying? Just from our friend group, and then we went past that to just people that we knew from school. Then it went from that to people that we didn't know. And so I was just like, okay, just doing something. So you just gave it to friends first. Was it even like close friends or do you have like enough confidence?

You're like, all right, I'm gonna put this, I'm gonna. I mean, of course I just, I didn't even know how to drop music. Ro told me Distro Kid, so I just went through Distro Kid. But like I said, when I was dropping them, it was just, I was just telling my immediate friend group. But then when I started noticing

that I was getting tags and stuff from people that I didn't know my immediate friend group. But then when I started noticing that I was getting tags and stuff from people that I didn't know. That's wild, huh? Yeah, I was like, okay, this is doing a little something. It's doing a little something. Then just to walk around my own city and everybody know me, I go in any club, everybody knew me. I was like, all right, this is really happening.

That's crazy. Yeah, then I got my first deal in like six months. My first distribution deal under six months. So once that happened, I just went from there. I just, I seen I had made a little bag off of it because I done touched a lot of money in my life but I ain't never touched nothing. Like I've never had $100,000 seen in my hand

at one point in time. Yeah. And when I did that distribution deal, I had that. And so I was like, me doing something non-illegal, I just had a hundred thousand dollars at one time. You must have been like, dang, this is it. Yeah. And then like three months later, I was broke.

Would you be in a water slide or something? No, I just was, you know, doing for everybody. Everybody buy some wild shit when they get a little bit of money. Now, they'll tell you, I didn't even have no big chains. I didn't even want no chains. To this day, I wouldn't have this chain if they wouldn't tell me, bro, you got an image that you got to uphold. You're the biggest rapper in Texas.

You can't. But I don't, I never cared about none of that at first. I kind of got addicted after I start paying for a book. Oh yeah, you get some nice carpet or whatever, you get a rug, nice table, you start buying all kind of shit, lamps. Exactly, exactly. Silverware with your name on it.

Yeah, yeah, so after I put my name on it, it's crazy. But now, yeah, so I had the smallest change. I just was doing it for people around me. I go in the mall, I couldn't even find nothing for me to wear in the mall. I would go to the mall and buy shoes and just tell my friends, hey, I'll give you whatever you all want. You know what I'm saying?

Like my mama, anytime she would ask for anything, giving it to my pops, anything, I was just doing it, you know what I'm saying? Then I looked up one day and I was down to like $25,000. I was like, oh shit. Looked up fast too. Oh man. And you gotta pay taxes, you don't even think about that. And I didn't think $25,000. I was like, oh shit. It was fast too. And you gotta pay taxes, you don't even think about that.

And I didn't think about none of that. I didn't think about none of that. And so I just had to, I really just put my foot down and grinded and I got it all back. And then, next thing I know that 100 went to, I just, we went crazy after that, you know? And so, I'm independent, so all my money come to me. Hell. Yeah Yeah, that's the same we work for ourselves here, too

It's inspiring. I see a lot of guys out there like that little Russell you ever see him Lord. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, you go crazy bro. His bars are good And he's so like inspirational. He's got this whole thing man. He does have to shit in his back He already he's so in half the sweaters himself that he's slinging, man. He puts it together. He's really inspiring. I like watching him. Do you see that Trump thing that happened with the guy?

Made the joke yesterday. I have not been in a debate situation at all, actually. Well, this is a comedian. They just had him in yesterday. It's Tony Hinchcliffe. He's a friend of mine and he just, so they put him up at the, at Madison Square Garden last night in New York City.

They put him up to speak and then this was a joke that he told us, just, everybody's going crazy about it today. Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah. I think it's called Puerto Rico. Okay. So that's the joke he told, right? At like a Madison Square Garden rally, I think it's called Puerto Rico. Oh, man. Okay, all right.

So that's the jokey toll, right? At like a Madison Square Garden rally, I guess. So people are up in arms about it. Cause a lot of people are Puerto Rican in New York. Yeah, that was a very crazy statement. Yeah, that seemed like a unique choice to me. But I don't know, I've made some poor choices, but I haven't made that one.

That's what you're talking about. I think we've all made a poor choice once before. I've made a ton. Do you guys, do you feel like Texas rocks with Trump? Or you feel like, are you a political guy? I'm not a political guy. I just, listen, I keep my head down. I make the money that I can make how I can make it.

As long as I can keep taking care of my kids. I don't care about what you know anything Hey, we got to go to war we got to go to war we don't we don't you just got to be ready for whatever come Yeah, so you be a paratrooper Duke looking at that video of yours. We'll send you in and I feel like I'm to the point now What they wouldn't even ask me You know like if if the world was to end, you know how like in all the world, in the movies, there's always like those two ships or two boats. I think I've made it to get on one of those now.

Like I'm on the list. Right, they're gonna keep you. Exactly, like plus two. Yeah. So. And you have to bring your children probably. Yeah, obviously, obviously. But do I bring two women so I can repopulate?

Start more children. Yeah. One kid, one woman. And the other kid just- Nah, nah, nah, I gotta take both my kids. I gotta take both my kids. That's the best answer to end on, I think, for that. Yeah, people bet on it now. Two people bet on the election.

They have, you ever seen this? Because a lot of it is, it's like, well, where's people's money at? Because that's where they're really, that's where you follow the money everywhere. That's where you really learn things, I find. And they have CalChi, this is a website where people bet on the election. And it's, yeah, Trump's at 62% now there and Kamala is at 38%. Um, what else do they have on there? Trevin, if you can bring something up.

Oh, how many number one songs this year on billboard, but you can bet on all, but all types of stuff, Grammy nominations for album of the year. Who's that? Cowboy Carter. Uh, Casey has 93%. Grammy nominations for album of the year. Who's that? Cowboy Carter. Casey has 93%, Casey Musgraves, Chris Stapleton. Will big X win a Grammy, right? You could bet on that.

You could bet on anything, you know? And they probably have some of it on there. But what is he at right now? What's it at right now? Go back. Oh, it's Trump 62%. And the money that's been bet 86 million dollars. That's crazy. That's crazy bro. That is so crazy. Like as your life has kind of

taken some new turns you've had new opportunities have you have there been any new mentors that have come into your life or like people that you start to see like this person I feel something that they're doing is interesting or I could learn from it Yeah, and then you kind of have created relationships with yet My I keep my head down I Mean I just recently did a Interview with a you know the mean dogs with the game while on ghillie. Yeah. Yeah, I saw some of it But I mean, it's I don't really I

Don't know. I'm not a big industry person man. I'm not gonna lie to you I don't like I keep relationships that are meant to be kept like you know that I'm not I'm not gonna over extend myself It's just got to be genuine and a lot of this stuff is not genuine. Oh, yes, it works I just I just kind, yes it worse. I just kinda state of myself, I don't know, I feel like if anything, my biggest mentor is like my son, you know what I'm saying? Just cause I feel like you go through everything you're going through and you still,

you get up and you smile every day. Even though you might not know what's going on, you just, you know, you get up and smile every day, not even knowing, you know what I'm saying? So I have to say my Everybody else I feel like I don't know I did everything that I've done to get here. I feel like I do it on my own like You don't need I guess an industry you don't yeah, maybe you're your own mentor That's interesting your son could be your mentor in a way because it really is a mentor is just kind of a source of inspiration

That's interesting. Your son could be your mentor in a way because it really is a mentor is just kind of a source of inspiration kind of these days I don't want to get up and I don't want to do none of this, you know, I'm saying but If my son get up every day and go to school and had a bigger smile on his face I have good days. Why can I not you know? Do you um, you ever listen to jelly roll you ever met jelly roll man? I've never met him But I've heard I've heard that he loves me. Man, I love Jelly Roll. Y'all would make us sick. Y'all could put something together.

I don't know if you do that kind of stuff. You have some collabs, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, bro. He's one of the most genuine dudes. I'm supposed to be doing a country tape next, and he's supposed to be on it. Yeah?

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Who else will be on it, you think Shabuzy maybe? Shabuzy for sure, that's my dog. I think I got an unread text from him right now on my phone, I just texted my buddy. What's he like? I got to sit near him at a, we went to a women's basketball game, don't tell anybody.

So. But we went and, but it was the Las Vegas Aces and they played good. Wait, he's 29? I had no idea Shabuzy was 29. You're old, buddy. You're old. You're old. I thought he was my age. Shibuzy, 29. He a damn adult. I didn't know he was a tourist though. His birthday two days before mine. Oh, he's a damn tourist as well.

Yeah. Wow. But now he's, like I told you, it's not a lot of genuine stuff in this industry. And he, him, NLE Choppa, it's just, as far as rappers, that's really just it. But they were most genuine guys. I mean, I can call NLE Choppa right now. He just called me the other day and thanked me

because whenever he was gone, whenever he transitioned to that, if I was a bad... He was on the way to go to Rolling Loud, because the first time he performed it was at the Rolling Loud. I had just left Rolling Loud, so we had the same hotel. We had already done a song before then, but we was chopping it up and in the back you could hear the song playing like he had somebody in the back specifically holding a speaker to play that song. And you know a lot of people just didn't really understand what he had going.

They didn't see where, I didn't even see the vision. He's out, he's set. But I just knew, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, as long as you comfortable with doing what you're doing, and you know your reasons behind doing what you're doing, then why not do it? Like you're young, you know.

At the end of the day, they doing all this other crazy stuff where you can't do it. And so he just basically thanked me the other day for just, you know, basically accepting, you know what I'm saying, what he had going, basically believing in what he had going. Now, like I said, that's my God, man.

I gotta get him on. He just reached out and said thank you? Yeah, I swear. I was getting my haircut at my house, he called me. He was in Tokyo, he was in Japan. They getting him over Yeah, I swear. I was getting my haircut at my house, he called me. He was in Tokyo, he was in Japan. They getting him over there, I guess. It was broad daylight. They love everything.

It was broad daylight where he was, and it was dark where I was, you know what I'm saying? He was just calling me, he had just got the shower. He was like, yeah man, I just wanna let you know, I appreciate you, I thank you. But yeah, Shaboos, that's my dog. I was just with him in New York. I was finished trying to bring him out to the store today,

but he in LA now, so. Yeah, he's all over. Yeah, we sat next to each other at a game. It was pretty good. Watching the Vegas Aces is good, man. Yeah, I gotta go see a women's basketball game. I feel like it's more intense. I can relate to their games,

because I can't dunk, they can't dunk. Exactly, exactly. I feel that. So every time they trying to dunk and they can, that's Ryan. You feel it. Yeah. I feel it, I feel it. I'm like they trying to dunk and they can't, that's Ryan. You feel it. Yeah. I feel it, I feel it.

I'm like, I know what these women are going through. I actually can't dunk. My manager just didn't give footage of it. Really? Cause he almost got fired that day as well. But I was just recently shooting a Prize Peaks commercial. Big shout out to Prize Peaks. And I dunked him off.

He really? I'm lying. We won't say what he said. No he said I'm not lying. You're not lying. I ducked about. Wow really? I don't believe it. See this is why you needed the footage. I believe it. I believe in gravity also bro. So that's all I'm saying. Drew Ski was there, funny Marco was there, they all seen it. Wait, was Sketch there too? Yes. Yeah, yeah, Sketch and Drew Ski was there?

Yes, sir. Oh yeah, how was that? I heard it was good, it was all for prize picks? Yeah, it was long, but we got the drop. Right there, bro. Yeah, I seen it before I said that. So yeah, now they're all great guys, man. Everybody's just genuinely funny.

From Spice Adams. That guy's hilarious Spice Adams, I don't know him. That's the Bring him up. Yeah, bring him up. There you go Spice Adams He's a chef. No, he does like the old basketball When you see him you you you oh Wait, did he do the uh, that's Anthony Adams, but he goes by my spice. He goes by spice now Well, that's his best about Anderson actually for a second. I think that's a movie artist or something. Yeah, it is

Anthony Adams you got to pull up like one of his clips like the one of the basketball clips Yeah, see if you can get one of them. I Didn't even know you played professional football he neither hell I didn't even know he exactly I didn't know he was Spice Adams go to the video down down to the right far right right there is oh we tried we tried spice but areas He was a funny guy Was he doing my caps no, he's just saying is how old is how old the guys laugh How his laughing glucose mama jokes

Oh his laugh at glucose mama jokes Yeah, he a character man, uh, Drew ski everybody Everybody know Drew ski a character skits. He's a vest man. I did a uh, Mia Driskey did a fake movie There's like a fake movie. Mm-hmm like that we made. Mm we made. This shit was messed up. So the family is called the Diggers is their last name. Druske wrote it. So we're at the one of them, the dad dies. It's Druske and his sister, they own, they're inherent in a funeral parlor.

And then I'm married to Druske's sister. And so I'm getting part of the funeral parlor and they're not happy about it. But anyway, we're at the, we're at the funeral of the dad, the guy that died. And the last name is, his name was Nathan Digger. Right. And so I had to make a speech in front of all these people. And it was like, man, I don't know if I can say this right now, but I was like, man, this is the best digger we ever had in the whole world. And it was a room full of black folks who didn't, I didn't know any of them.

And Drew Ski and them are in the back just howling, bro. And I'm just having to keep, I had to do it like 15 times. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally, I was like, man, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, it'll get awkward after a while. Yeah, bro yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally I was like, man, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, it would've got awkward after a while. Yeah, bro, right in the floor. Even if I noticed you saying this other word after like the seventh time,

it started to sound like the other word, you know? Dude, it was, yeah, it got really scary even for a little while. But it was, Drusky's hilarious, dude. The video where he gets out of prison, that's Demon Home, you see that one? Yeah, yeah, the Demon Home, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Lil Ray!

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needed you out there? A lot of people would have to go before me. Like you would have like a group of people would have like not the astronauts that like you would have because they said it's supposed to be building the hotel up there so yeah somebody got to go stay in that hotel for a week and come back safely and they got to check out a blood you know their vitals and if everything good I go like the third or fourth group trip you know I'm saying I go on that I would. That'd be wild if you were out there. It would because I would be lighter. Yeah that's really what I want to there. It would, because I would be lighter. Yeah.

That's really where I want to go. Lean with it, rock with it, boy. Exactly. I would make, I have so many captions when I come back. Man. I would. Yeah, I wonder if you could write different bars if you were in space, because it would affect you differently.

My mental right. Yeah. I can't say nothing about standing on business, because I'm floating on business. I see what you're saying. You gotta be hard. We gotta get us in space, man. First album written in space, that'd be tough. I'm on some Soulja Boy stuff now.

First rapper to write an album in space. Yeah, I wonder, man. Big extraterrestrial. You could meet an alien out there. Do a lot of you believe in aliens? Do you believe in aliens my friend? I? Don't know cuz you gotta think man They got a lot of space out there, but they do do I believe that there is another

Like planet out there with life on it, of course, I think so. Aliens, I think they might look just like us. I think they might look just like us, they might just speak different, and yeah. I ain't gonna say they just look like, booboo, you know, I'm not gonna say that, but. Yeah, like a Teletubbie or something. Yeah, they might look like, yeah, yeah,

I'm not gonna do that. But they might look like the guy with the ears. Yeah. Him down there. Down there, right there. They might look like that. Oh, damn, he look like he cut his own hair. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha cut their hair? That's just how their hair naturally is. They just snap and it falls off how they want it to be. Wow.

That's as alien as it'll get from me. We used to have a bus driver, he'd cut everybody's hair. He was the barber in our town, so like once a month he'd pull a bus over. $2, everybody get cut up. $2? I don't know if I want that haircut. I don't know if I want that haircut. Oh, it wasn't a great cut, but it's the only cut they had, man. It's like, what can you give for $2 I don't know. I don't know if I want that. Oh, it wasn't a great cup, but it's only cut they had man

Was I what can you give for two hours? You get what you get he was just sitting the bowl. I hear just cutting around it. Well, he could do it off a sight He didn't need a you know a dishware or nothing, but he could he he he he he did it He didn't have that much faith in itself dog is two dollars As you get two dollars, I don't even get you no dip, that don't get you nothing. But this was, man, this was 25 years ago though, 22 years ago. So he had, yeah, he really, I thought he did a pretty good job, but he pulled that bus over, bam, everybody.

22 years? How old are you? I'm 44. Really? I'm an adult, man, I'm an adult. I'm an adult. Man, you look good. It's the end, thanks man, I feel good, but I'm just, just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm an adult man, I'm gonna die soon. I'm an adult. Man, you look good.

Thanks man, I feel good, but I'm just getting older. I gotta get a wife soon. Yeah, you gonna have to. I know. You gonna have to. You don't think? Man, it's like part of me feel like this, I don't know man.

I got two women right now. And I just feel like I probably would be better with none right now, you know? Yeah. You know, cause it's just like as you get, as it get better, it get worse. Yeah. But there's something also admirable about a guy

that's able to make that work though too, I think. If I see that and a guy's able to make that work though too, I think. If I see that and the guy's able to make it work, that he's able to take care of his wife or ex-wife, I feel like there's almost something a little bit admirable about it. I struggle every day. I struggle every day, they see it. Every day I struggle.

But I feel like it's making me a better person, because now I feel like the past me didn't know how to treat women. Now that I got a daughter, it made me want to treat women better and it will happen right when I have two women. So now I'm treating them both like queens, obviously, but it gets to a point where, you know,

that's another convo. Look at everybody starting to listen. Yeah, that's another convo, man. That's something else, bro. Definitely take as much time as you need, because once you get married, it's a wrap. You there. My dad just told me he's gonna propose to his girlfriend

on the Dallas date. On stage. Uh-uh. And what song are you gonna play a special song for him? If she says yes? I mean, he's the voice on Texas, so I'll probably just play Texas. First off, will you marry me?

Dang. If you got to meet some aliens, what songs would you play for him, you think? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm from Texas. And what about some other artists? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm from Texas. And...

And what about some other artists? The biggest, the largest. Yeah. I would play that for them. They would like that. But if they pull up with a big ass, large ass alien, you're gonna have some competition though. He gonna like the song though. He gonna like the song.

That's all I know. But I definitely would play, gotta play some Lil Wayne. I would play. Yeah, dude. You gotta play some Lil Wayne. We used to live not far from juvenile and he chased a woman down the street one night

in our neighborhood. Oh, Jesus. We just gonna say she did something wrong. Oh, I'm assuming she did. Yeah. And we can probably take that out. I don't want to hurt the guys. I don't know if that's still pending either. What a yeah, I'm trying to think of what else, man, you've had so much success this year. Do you start to feel about different goals or you just stay, you

just kind of stay in the pocket you're in? Like, what do you feel like? Do you feel a responsibility to keep up with your own success now? Because that's interesting. Once you start to have some success, you almost set the bar for yourself without even realizing it, right? You're just trying to achieve some goals.

But then you set a bar, kind of. I mean, like I said, I didn't come in just wanting to be the best rapper ever. I didn't even want to be a rapper. It was just something, I had to do something to take care of my child. And so, like, it's just to the It was just something, I had to do something to take care of my child. And so like it's just to the point where it's like, as long as I'm taking care of my child, I'm good.

I still don't feel like, I'm treating this as the NFL, because that's what I wanted to, I thought I was going to be a football player. The NFL stands for not for long. So I gave myself five years in this. I tell them every day, man I can't wait to retire in this rap.

And they be like, yeah you got like 10 more years. And I be like, no I got rap. And they be like, yeah, you got like 10 more years. And I be like, no, I got two. And they be like, no. I'm like, yeah, I only got two. Because after that, I'm just, I feel like movies, you know, like I'm just setting myself up for other things to bring more revenue to my family. When I'm gone, my kids are going to be serious.

They ain't got to do nothing. But it's going to like, I'm's gonna like, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna be done so much, like as far as music, movies, commercials, voiceovers, whatever, you know what I'm saying? It's gonna make them wanna do something, you know what I'm saying? Man, my dad did all of this.

I gotta go do this, I gotta do something to make my own name. I want my kids to want their own name. So it's like, everything that I'm doing right now. I'm basically doing it to make it hard on them I'll see what you're saying because if they're if there is competitive if they have that competitive spirit And I know that's in me because he got passed down from my dad my brother It's how it's just I know I know this that's gonna be there exactly Yeah, and so when they when they nice and ready, I just know they're gonna put their best foot forward when they gonna figure it out.

But if they don't, they got pals to sit on if they don't. You know what I'm saying? What about a Christmas album, man? You gonna do something like that for everybody? I did do a Christmas song one time when I feel like it went crazy. I just dropped it at the wrong time. When are you dropping it, in the summer?

No, it was cold. It was cold. I actually dropped it right around Christmas. It just was early in my career So I had less eyes, you know Yeah But it's I think it's over a million something right now now that I've become who I've become Maybe it could pick up then this year. Yeah

Yeah, I think we got 1.5 a year ago and Would you ever do a mall Santa or something like that like for children or for charity? Oh I'd be sick, bro Yeah, dude, if you got to be a mall Santa that would be pretty good Yeah, I don't if we can listen to it or not because we'll have to it'll get claimed or whatever What's your show like man. What's your show like, man? What's the show like?

I might pull up tonight. You should, you should. Now it's more like, now, at first my shows were just like turn up, like a lot of dancing, a lot of- People shaking a towel and all that? Shaking a towel. There's always that one guy that's just too, the towel guy or whatever, like on the rap stages,

it's that one dude and he just- Oh, you or whatever, like on the rap stages is that one dude and he just. Oh, you talking about like a hype man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess Rowe is my hype man. It's good though, you gotta have him. No, but we're more like put together. Like, I don't know what it is, me and Rowe,

we've been performing together since my first ever performance he was on stage with me. So I don't know, it's just the chemistry is there. We know we wouldn't, everything that we done put together it just happened, it wasn't nothing that we said. Like we just for the first time did rehearsals before this tour and we done did three tours before, like my tour, Kevin Gaye's tour, Key Glock tour.

We never rehearsed nothing, it was just we went on stage and it just happened. So now we finally rehearsing and so I just feel like they made we never rehearsed, we went on stage and it just happened. So now we're finally rehearsing, so I just feel like that made it. Like now he come out on stage in a FedEx uniform, you know what I'm saying, like it's crazy, we just put more to it. Yeah, yeah, you should come.

Yeah, I'm gonna come. To see a big guy my size move the way I move, and you wouldn't even think that it was an hour, I do hour sets and he wouldn't, if I wasn't sweating so bad, you wouldn't even think that it was an hour see I do our six and he wouldn't If I wouldn't sweat and so bad you wouldn't even know I was tired I don't know. It's just kind of like second nature to us down there. We are we were football players So he doesn't always remember the lights, you know I'm saying it so I Don't know. It's just it just make you want to put on more of a show Do you have some ballads in there to some love songs like that? I

Guess I used to, but now like, so the Take Care Tour is basically, I mean it's off of the album, you know, it's based off the album. And my album wasn't more of a, it wasn't a turn up album, it wasn't a for the women album, it was just me speaking on me in this industry,

you know, speaking on me in the now. And so like now I feel like my shows are more like personal. Like a lot of people that come to my shows now, they coming because they feel the same way. They feel the same way. Exactly, and so. Like I did it myself, I've been doubted, and I still believed enough in myself to get things.

Exactly, so now I speak, like now I perform with, what's that, what is the thing called that you sit the mic on? Mike Stan. Mike Stan, yeah my fault. I had a brain farm, my fault. But yeah, so now I come out, Mike Stan, like I show you my intro now,

you'll be like, okay, yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. If you can pull my Instagram up, you actually can see it. Yeah, let's pull it up, and I'm gonna come see tonight, man. And we'll get you out there. Y'all follow me at Big X The Plug as well. Wow, bro,'m gonna come see tonight man. I'm gonna follow me at big extra plug. Oh, yeah Wow, but so exciting man. It's really awesome to see all your to see just you have so many opportunity that first one right there Oh, yeah Shut out to my cameraman Trey Sells me Wow! I should have rapped, bruh.

Damn, I should have. He said he should have rapped. That's crazy. I should have got in. I had a little bit of a chance, but I didn't. But. Hey, it happens. It happens.

It was, if you ask me, this is the easiest thing I've ever done in my life. No cap. If it wasn't for all the extra stuff that come with it, this is the easiest money I've ever made in my life. Yeah. Because I don't, it's different when you gotta lie and make up stuff, because now that's a whole another process you gotta do.

Oh yeah. But when you just talking about what you've done, what you've went through, like that's just coming off, that's coming off my head. I don't gotta think, oh, what would sound, like, you know what I'm saying, I don't have to do that. Well, if you're saying true to your own life, then you don't have to manipulate anything exactly and there's just so much easy

You can go on the studio you can you basically writing a story about yourself. Yeah, it's easy man That's a great. It's a it's interesting. I think people can understand what you're talking about today can they can You just communicate so well that I think it just it reaches a lot of people you know you know As congrats on all the success man. Appreciate you. Congrats on the tour. Album out now man. Y'all make sure I keep running that take care of. We got a we only three days in the tour we still got 29 more dates. And a lot of these are sold out. Yes a lot of these are sold out so y'all try to get in where y'all can fit in. Oh definitely get those meet and greets. Oh do people yeah how do you guys you guys do that after

the shows? I try to do them before the show because after I'm all sweaty and yeah so I like to do it before but I don't know I also feel like after it's more like genuine, you know what I'm saying? Before I feel like it's me, it's just kind of like trying to get it. And this is coming from, this is me being honest about me. Before it's kind of just feel like it's like I'm going through the, like oh soundcheck, then meet and greet, then.

But after the show it's like, it's just more genuine. Because you tired, and it's just the real you now. You ain't got it. Right, you've had the show already. Exactly. And they've gotten to see it too. Exactly, exactly. So it's like whenever they come up, like I had a guy, a grown man last night walk up on me and tell me,

bro, I love you. I appreciate you because of what you got going. You helped me. I love you. Tell me you love me twice. You know, so it's like that's real love. Before, if we would have did the meet and greet before, he wouldn't have went through the show.

He said, I might love you. Yeah, yeah, hey, great job. You know this, I love the guy. But he listened to the show, he listened to the lyrics. Yeah, after that, the energy's been there. There's been that connection. I think a lot of people, you don't think about it from their perspective though.

They're just excited to get to see you. Some people, it's like you wanna hear their music, but also I think you just wanna be in the same building as them. And I think that like you want to hear their music but also I think you just want to be in the same building as them and I think that's some of the energy that you have I think. Some people it's just their songs yeah I want to go listen for their songs I don't know if I really have a sense of them as a person but to me it feels like and it's just my thoughts that there's something else where people like oh I also want to be in the same

room as him I just you, I feel like it's... And it's different when you got like, when you're actual, like when you're genuine, like you're humble, it's just you, it's actually you. It's not no, you know what I'm saying? When you're just taking a picture, getting out the way, you know, you enjoyed the show, I just liked the show, what was your favorite part

of the show, I appreciate you coming out, man your favorite part of the show? Appreciate you coming out, man. People love that, that makes them feel like you're their person and you're a person, you know what I'm saying? When you taking the picture and moving them on out the way, you're not even, that just makes it seem like you're a robot. Like, the machine is running you. Oh yeah, and these days, some of the best artists

it's just everything that's outside of the machine. The machine is dirty, man That's why I feel like everything that we're doing right now is you doing it yourself story cuz it's it's all us We're doing it completely independent. Who's your team? I mean, I know a lot of them right here, but just but okay, so I got a distribution deal to United Masters Okay, so they don't do nothing but distribute my music. I mean, they gave me a small marketing budget, you know what I'm saying? Nothing too major. Like a major label, they pay for everything.

You know what I'm saying? Like this tour I paid for out of my pocket. Like the bus, $200,000 on the bus. I know dude, that bus is damn expensive. I'll take the whole bus. Wait, wait. Rayhan was 60, it's $60, bro. $60, yep.

To get to Rochester. That's right. Right now it's $60 to get to Rochester. That's smart. Or FedEx, you mail yourself overnight to... Not different, I don't know, but I just feel like... I'm kind of glad we did the best though, because you know, it's just... No, you have to do it. Yeah. You have to. It's hard to start to spend that money on yourself.

Like we toured Comedy, we just got back from Montana or some different places But it's like you just cuz at a certain point you invest in this in your own you have to be comfortable You can't show up like you're like rattled. You know it's like because you have to put the show on Not trying to preach that I just I try to nickel-and-dime we fucking was on motorbikes one time We was on all kind of shit trying to save money man. We had a camper We had all kinds of shit Now yeah, I mean this was cheaper than flying everybody everywhere So yeah, and we just I just I went through the Sprinter experience and I just couldn't do that again. It's hard

I had man. Yeah, we did all that van Sprinter. Yeah, and then, you just have to make sure you're comfortable enough to show up. Yep. Wow. Well, what a journey, Big X. Thanks for just letting us enjoy your music, man. I love, yeah, just how humble you are, man. And just, yeah, people to people, man. That's all we all are really doing. Yes, sir.

Take care, tour, and you can get the album. You still have, if it's sold out, there may still be-and-greet tickets available for sure and I know you're just gonna keep adding more dates man you're gonna be a busy man that's how we work and we work yeah I'm glad I got to catch you today man this side pretty much about heart blessings These leaves are must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little