This Past Weekend - E549 Koe Wetzel

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Koe Wetzel is a country singer and songwriter originally from Pittsburg, Texas. His latest album “9 Lives” was released earlier this year, and his new Christmas EP “Wetzel’s Wonderland Chapter 2” is also streaming now everywhere.  Koe Wetzel joins Theo to talk about growing up in Texas as a wild child with strict parents, how he developed such a unique and raw relationship with his fans, his reputation for partying, and who he sees as the modern day outlaws of country music.  Koe Wetzel: https://www.instagram.com/koe_wetzel/ ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Prize Picks: First time users, download the PrizePicks app, use code THEO and PrizePicks will instantly give you $50 on your first lineup of $5 or more. https://www.prizepicks.com/  BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com to try BlueChew FREE - just pay $5 shipping at checkout. Tommy John: Go to http://tommyjohn.com/theo to get 25% off your first order.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Ben https://www.instagram.com/benbeckermusic/  Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/  Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's country, it's rock, it's grunge, it's him. He's got a new Christmas EP, Wetzel's Wonderland, chapter two, out now. And I'm just grateful to spend time today and to catch up with him today's guest is mr. co wet soul I shouldn't be allowed to fucking be alive. You ever feel like that? You ever feel like that really, dude? I mean, I should not be allowed to be alive, dude. I just... Kind of one of those days.

Yeah, you ever just burn so many bridges down, you can't even take a step. You burn, it's not even bridges, you burn down just regular flooring. Yeah ceiling everything carpet I Mean I'll just turn a reggis Everything's a chimney when I come right someday when I'm like that We have whatever you want. Yeah, if you don't mind a couple of those.

Yeah, I'm just damn... It's just, you know, yeah, everything's fine. It just, you know, if I get in a... You know? You think it's kind of like with the holidays and shit coming up too? It doesn't help. Yeah, no, for sure. And there's a lot of little things to do

and suddenly a lot of just feeling like a blow responsibilities and then everything kind of has a, yeah. And then if I, yeah. And I start turning, I'll just turn it into just a, you know, I get too focused on what I need to get done. Sometimes I just got to hit a meeting or something or fucking drink a damn eight ball, dude if they dude, I'm glad they didn't come down with eight ball the Beverage or whatever I'd have been on them bitches man Co wet so man congrats on the new album dude. I appreciate it Wow

Shit kind of popped off huh? Yeah, well you've been working so hard for sure people don't think about that yeah, everybody uh, it's the was the overnight success shit and I Don't know they don't see the 10 years 10 plus years, you know, we've been grinding it out for a while. So And all the place you played every place they would allow someone to play. Really? For, for real though, I mean, like we would, I mean, you'll play, I've seen, yeah, trailers on the back of like semis, uh, behind chicken wire. Oh, I've seen places where like tomorrow this place is getting fumigated, right?

They'll already be setting up the tent around it with the bug spray in it. And it's like, but tonight, go Wessel, baby. It was with big lights, right? We had, dude, there was this one run that we had. It was probably the third year, it was probably 2013, 14. And it was like, we were playing VFWs and like firehouses and stuff. Well, there was like three, three places that we played and within two months, I don't know if it was tax reasons, reasons or what, but all of them fucking burned

down. It was like a thing like co-hosts was coming to town, get your extinguishers ready, man. He's about to burn this bitch down. Literally. It was almost like that white snake Memorial tour, kind of. That's how it was, man. And it was kind of a joke around East Texas,

but it was legit. It was always a VFW or a little cash grab or something. It was kind of a sketchy place, you know? And then you get in there and it's like, did you hear that place burn down last night? I was like, what? You're like, what are hear that place burned down last night? I was like, what? You're like, what are you, we just left.

Like, I think we still have some drums in there. Bro, you can smell the kerosene as you pull it off down the road. They're just in the bags pulling wires and shit. I was electrical fired. Oh, bro. Oh yeah. Nothing like a good scam, dude. Dude, I'm telling you. Get you out of a pinch. You talking about, yeah, getting your day back to brighter, man? Get a little, get a little government money, man. We had a dude who had bought a bunch of, uh, he made a bunch of 4th of July t-shirts, right? Okay. And they didn't get in until they basically got in like on the night before. They're supposed to come in like two weeks early. And it was a business

plan this guy had. And he, so on 4th of July, he's like, I got, I have basically eight or nine hours to peddle these bitches. So he got, he was out there on a, with a bike, with a little wagon, he was pulling like, you was supposed to have a child in it or something, but it was just full of these 4th of July shirts and he was out there just slanging in bitches and he only got rid of about maybe 17 of them. So he had about maybe 420 shirts left or whatever. What do you do with them? He said, he, here's what he did.

He said, he set them on fire, right? But he did it near a fireworks display and he said that some of the fireworks had landed in them. Hey, hey man. That's a kind of respect the hustle. That's awesome. It was a great idea, man. He's got a lot. I bet he had a lot of, a lot of great ideas.

I mean, maybe is he still around? He's an idea man. I would say maybe is he still around? What should he hit him off from? He's an idea man. I would say that. Yeah, absolutely. He's an idea man. Yeah, man, you're playing some different venues now. So that's kind of changed, huh?

Has it? Yeah, I mean, we've been doing like arenas for like the last two or three years, but it's just kind of to a bigger scale, I guess. I mean, the definitely got newer fans. With this record, we kind of tapped into the mainstream kind of side of it, I guess. You know, we've always been independent. And I mean, I guess, you know, coming out of Texas and you get toward Texas year

around, you know, and make a damn good living. And it's pretty much what we've been doing. But, you know, over the last probably five years, we've got out of Texas and got to play these crazy arenas and stuff. That's crazy, look at that. Yeah, man, it's been a while. We've been blessed.

Fans have just come out of the woodworks, man. It's cool to have people fuck with the music, man, fuck with what you're telling them, man. It's been wild It's it's kind of we've been so busy. I've had time like step back and actually look at it. You know and and Kind of see where we're at, but it's it's wild man. Yeah No, well yeah I mean I think there's a lot of that energy out of Texas where it's just like that you know

We'll figure it out and Texas really supports their own a lot. Yeah, for sure. You know? It's the same with guys like Parker over the years and I mean, Texas has their own thing. They always have, you know, they support their own. Very, very proud people, man. And you know, it's just such a cult following, you know, and we've been blessed to have those cult fan base that that fan base for so long, you know, and we've been blessed to have those cult fan base that

that fan base for so long, you know. Is there like co-beef between like people, you know, like new fans and old fans? Maybe a little bit, but I mean, like I said, they're so passionate and they're so like co-fans that, you know, I think they've responded, I was kind of curious as to how they're gonna take this new music that we put out I mean they came on with it I think they dug it just you know cuz we haven't really veered off from the shit we've been doing a whole you know career so yeah do you feel weird do you feel like is there a part of you that feels like cuz I get like if I have to do something that feels kind of mainstream me to me sometimes it

it makes me fucking angry yeah yeah I don't mean I have to do something that feels kind of mainstream me to me sometimes it makes me fucking angry. Yeah, yeah. I don't mean I'm not really because like I said earlier, you know, I'm still doing the same shit. It's just more I guess on a bigger scale kind of more I don't know kind of expected. You know what I mean? Like to do all these interviews and, you know, just kind of get your story out there. So, I mean, it used to be, you know, get fucked up, go play music and that was it. You know, write music, throw down party with everybody. And now it's kind of, all right, let's take a step back and calm everything down a

little bit, you know? Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah. Your TikToks, you guys would be just fucked up out there eating dandelions and shit or just adopting animals. I mean, you guys are doing a lot for the, for nature and everything out there.

Do you have to slow it down a little bit? Have you had to a little? This tour we definitely did. So last year's tour was the Hell Passo tour and it was balls to the wall. Like it was, it was insane, bro. Like it was too much, honestly. I'm surprised Mike died. like it was, it was insane, bro. Like it was too much, honestly. I'm surprised Mike died.

But we had a couple of folks go to jail, but other than that, I mean, it was just chaos the whole time. And then this year with the Damn Near Normal tour, they kind of like caged me a little bit. Like, so after every show, it was direct to the bus and then the cop escort out. Like they wouldn't let me go out and party and stuff, which was great

I mean the tour was great and stuff But I felt like they were trying to settle me down a little bit because I mean like I said It's just kind of on a bigger scale than than anybody kind of expected it to be yeah You got more responsibility the next day. You got to actually be there and you know I felt a whole lot better this tour and the shows were, were better in my opinion. And, uh, but yeah, I mean, I guess it's, you gotta grow up sometime, man. It sucks, huh? It sucks, man. It sucks getting old. It sucks having to grow up.

Grow up, yeah. And it's not even getting old. Oh, you can stay young and just be an old dude and like, damn, that old dude is, uh, shouldn't be. It's like the FOMO though. Like the fear, like, you know, like whenever it's just like, you're reminiscing all the good times. Like, damn man, that'd be fun to do tonight. You know, we should do that tonight.

Oh yeah. It's nothing. Oh dude, going to bed early and laying there and just feeling like just even God knows you're a little bitch. That's the saddest part, dude. Getting into bed early. You're like, all right, I'm doing it. And then you kind of get ready and you're like start start to feel a little bit bad

You're like, ah, you know what and you wake up next morning I feel like whenever you wake up next morning, you're like, no good on you. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a yeah That's like it's a little little umphy test. I yeah a natural often I just wear your heart just burned out from this running over time, dude I remember when I first met you I I was like, cause I was like, I don't know if I just like gotten like re sober or something at the time. Re sober is a good name.

Re sober, yeah, that's pretty cool. I never heard that word. I never said that word before. Re sober, re sobered. But I'd never got, and I remember when I met you and I was like, okay, I gotta be careful around that guy because. I remember that time.

That guy was at whiskey jam, right? Was it whiskey jam? I remember. And when it air losers. It might've been with Todd, with Todd, with Todd graves. Yeah, that could have been the Superbowl. Remember is that that, oh God. Yeah.

In that suite or something. I was sober for three weeks going up to them. We're sitting in a suite with Todd and like me and Dre have been sober or whatever. And we're like, if we can make it through Super Bowl weekend, dude, we are, you know, we're killing it. And I'm sitting there and Cersei from Lord of the fucking Ring, or not Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones walks in. I'm like, was that Cersei?

And they're like, yeah. That's one of the Jonas Brothers too. I was like, holy shit. And so- Yeah, you gotta play that game. You drink every time you see a Jonas Brother. I was like, yeah. I was like, vodka soda, please?

And dude, we got, I mean, it was like 11 in the morning. And you know, you got all these actors and musicians. Yeah, they had a lot of- Cocho walks in from LSU, he's like, hey, what's going on, cuz? You doing all right? You doing all right, bro? I'm like, yeah, I'm a lot of. Coach O walks in from LSU, he's like, Hey, what's going on? Cause you're doing all right. You're doing all right, bro. I'm like, yeah, I'm good, man. Like, what you think about your boy?

Nah, he got, he got a sort of, he's got a sort of. Yeah. That's when Burrow was playing the soup bowl. I was like, this dude's fucking awesome, you know? This dude's been eating eight balls too. And just rolling around, man. Just having a great time. And so, I mean, we hammered them all day.

We get to the game and I mean, it's just having a great time. And so, I mean, we hammered them all day. We get to the game and I mean, it's just like that red carpet. People were showing up, coming in like, dude, I can't handle this shit. This is too much. You know, everybody was in there. PD Pablo, I think was in there. Dude, Jack Harlow, Fritz Fontana. I mean, it was just one after the other. And, you know, me being from small East Texas, I was like, what the fuck?

Oh yeah. That was wild. That was crazy. one after the other and you know, me being from small East Texas, I was like, what the fuck? Oh yeah, that was wild. That was crazy. There was a lot of fancy folks in there too, dude. I wanted to fucking rob some of those fucking queers or whatever and I don't know, you can't say queers, but sub over to me didn't say it. But yeah, dude.

Oh, and I just, yeah, I was like, cause I was just trying to, I was just getting back on the grill or whatever and I was like, I gotta fucking. Well, I think, I think just, yeah, I was like, cause I was just trying to, I was just getting back on the grill or whatever. And I was like, I gotta fucking. Well, I think, I think one of the times I met you, it was at Whiskey Jam, I think. And we were sitting there each other and we were like, yeah, we're fans, fan of each other, whatever.

And I remember you were like, there was a step right above me to what Muska Down Bloodline was playing. He was like, you trying to go up? And I was like, I was like, yeah, let's go? And I was like, yeah, dog, let's go. And I was like, you wanna go to the bathroom right here? You were like, wait, what? I was like, and I had a little in my pocket.

I was like, you trying to go, you were like, no, the step to watch, I was like, ah, ah, shit. And I didn't know you was sober. I remember that. Yeah, I was kind of perched up in the back. You were like, you trying to get up? I'm like, hell yeah, let's go right now

You're like no Damn brother. Well, look I appreciate the hey, I do appreciate the support. Yeah My bad those those on me. Oh, no Dude, I want somebody to fucking want to get me fucked up, dude I want somebody to just hold me down and just fucking just damn funnel, just yay into my brain, you know what I'm saying? But that's Christmas wishing, you know? Let me talk about your new album.

So the new album's nine lives, right? And when have you burned a couple of your lives? Was there a night or two over the time? Because I'm trying to think, we had, let me think of a good night that happened to me one time. Oh dude, a guy overdosed or whatever one time and people were doing CPR on him. I'm like, he doesn't need fucking CPR.

Was anybody, could they even do CPR on him? I mean, they were just trying. His chest was already doing its own CPR. I'm like, that dude is just geeked out of his go-ard, bro. You need to hit him with that fucking, that's Narcanial Johnson. You need to hit him with that fucking, that's Narcanial Johnson. You need to hit him with that. Somebody hit him with an EpiPen.

Yeah, sweet Narcan dude. Yeah, somebody hit him with an EpiPen, like he had a bee sting or something. I'm like, this dude got stung by an eight ball. This dude got stung by a freaking. He's having a reaction for sure. This dude got stung by a warm gram and they're trying to put them Pepto-Bismol in them. People are fucking unbelievable. Hey man, people start freaking out like that.

She gets hairy and especially if you toy up like that, you don't know what the fuck's gonna happen. So it's kind of like, oh shit. What do we do here? Well, everybody starts trying. I think I'm gonna have one myself. Y'all start doing that shit to me. Oh dude, I see somebody do a Narcan. I'll hit one.

Do you always feel like you had to party so much? Where does that come from? You think is that just did you grow up partying? Yeah, not really. I mean, I never felt like I had to. It was just man, I like to have a good time. My whole family likes to have a good time, man. So it's just kind of whenever I got, so my parents were pretty strict with me growing up, you know, because they knew the only way I was going to get out of Pittsburgh was to, you know, on a scholarship or whatever. And that's Pittsburgh, Texas. Pittsburgh, Texas, yeah. And so like they were really strict on me. And so once I got to college, dude, it was like balls to the wall, like no parents, you know,

get to college and just hammer down, man. And then it just, I don't know, I guess it kind of just snowballed and, uh, I don't know, I can drink with the best, best of them. And, uh, I don't know. It's a great, it's a great time out and I've slowed down a whole lot. Um, you know, this past couple of years, but I still, uh, I still like get out there and act up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. I can't believe that's you slowed down. It's great though. I was always envious of people that could party,. Wow, I can't believe that's you slowed down. It's great though. I was envious of people that could party, man. Cause I couldn't do it. I'd get a little too rattled and I'd just start fucking chewing on the fucking walls and shit.

You know, I'd just start fucking farming copper out of my own house, dude. You know, I get, I couldn't handle it, dude. I'd call the cops on myself a bunch of times. I'm fucked up. That's partying though. I'd call the cops on myself a bunch of times That's pretty that's partying though. I mean that's that's hardcore shit Hey, that's a party and I don't think I've ever called the cops on myself before that's wild. Oh, yeah, dude I'll call them bitches. Oh Did I call the cops for anything dude, I see yeah

I remember I was at a UFC fight one night and the guys were beating each other so bad and I fucking called the cops right there from T-Mobile Arena. It was Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway were beating the shit out of each other. I said, you gotta get down here quick. Yeah, I said, y'all got a male on male domestic down here. Oh my God, bro.

That's what I said. I said, these guys are fighting over jewelry down here because I think Winter got the belt. Oh really? So I was like, you got a male on male domestic down here, but you guys need to send someone. You need to figure this shit out quick. But Dana, what are you doing?

Yeah, why the Title IX Lives, man? Oh, man, it was kind of, so the record was kind of like us kind of doing a new music that we're not known for. You know, usually it's the party music, the crazy rock stuff. So this was just kind of the past, the lives that I could live had I not been a musician You know or travel down this road. So It's kind of like a reflection on that and It's kind of one of those one of those things

Yeah, and I've read that you wrote it pretty quick like when it finally hit you. Most of the songs came really quick man like Gabe Simon, he always say it was like my first therapy session. I met him. Yeah, yeah, cool dude. But he like dug into my life, like into my soul. It was like bringing out shit that I'd normally never tell like a stranger, you know. And he just dug into it man and it helped write the songs really fast honestly. So yeah, I don't know man. The songs came out great, you know, it was one of the more vulnerable sides of me for sure. Yeah, for sure. No, I mean it was just like it was more raw and real than I feel like I'd ever been playing music. So yeah, it was kind of like a kind of turning a new page

on not leaving the party behind, but just kind of me kind of growing up type shit. Damn, fuck dude. All right. This sucks, dude. All the good ones grow up. I know, you're gonna see me in the jail log tomorrow. I go to the red door or something tonight.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, dude. A lot of the, all the good ones grow up, man. Yeah. They've had that term. Yeah.

Because there's so there's like, I mean, I love Jesse Murph. We had, I've been a Jesse Murph fan since before I should admit as an adult male. It was like very strange to tell people that you were a fan. Well, she's got the soul of like a 50 year old, I feel like, or 60 year old. 80. It's insane. I remember whenever I first heard her, I was like, wait, how old is she? She was probably 17, 18. And I was like, wait, what? And she's such a baller, man. Like she walks in the room and it's just like, her presence is so huge.

And she's just this little, big thing, dude, you know? But amazing, amazing artist. She's a fucking grenade. Dude. Yeah. This is insane. And she's got that look in her eyes. Like she's just seeing it all a million times. Sure, that's what I'm saying.

She's like reincarnated, bro. She's like, yeah, she's times. That's what I'm saying. She's like reincarnated, bro. She's like, yeah, she got it. She got it going on. Yeah, she might be a refurb or whatever they call it. You know? Yeah, hell yeah. God. Oh, God, y'all are beautiful.

And I mean both of you too. I do want to say it like that. No, she's so talented, man. That song gets stuck in my head too, man. That hybro gets stuck in my head. I'll just be doing nothing or doing something and it'll come out of me. I remember where we at. Uh, it was getting, I'm getting the IV.

I'm hungover as shit. Oh yeah. So you got to, and I'm just like, I'm just kind of watching the football game and I hear you coming down singing high road. I was like, Jesus Christ. Oh man. And it was like, what were we, what were we doing? Uh, what was this stuff? Huh? NAD. Oh yeah. You do it. Remember we get to the middle. And it was like, what were we doing? What was the stuff?

Huh? The NAD. NAD, oh yeah, remember we were talking about it. You were like doing however many milligrams. Oh yeah. And I was doing like 75 or 100, and I'm over there about to die, and I just hear you coming down singing High Road,

and I'm like, God, shut up, please. Oh man, it's just wild when you get one that gets stuck in your head. Yeah, for sure. You wake up singing it, and you can't get, yeah, it's just all when you get one that gets stuck in your head. Yeah, for sure. You wake up singing it and you can't get it. Yeah, it's just all they do. Yeah. Yeah, man.

It's wild, man. What have I been watching? I was watching that John B'Nai Reims. You see that stuff? I hadn't seen it. Is it on Netflix? Yeah. I saw it.

I haven't watched it yet. It's just like rehab or dash and whatever happened in the past, you know? Yeah. Is it kind of like who did it? Are they still on that? Yeah, the dad though will now be interviewed. Like the dad is in it. Okay. Oh, no shit.

Yeah. And the dad, I think that the dad, there's just a belief of mine. I believe that the dad had had some kind of inappropriate attraction to the child, maybe. I don't know if I can legally say that or not. It was just my belief. And the mother had been envious of that. The mother, um, unalived, you have to say unalived now. Oh really?

Unalived the child. Unalive, you can't, you can't say the other stuff. Yeah, they'll take us down. The mother unalived the child and then they together figured out the story, right? And neither one of them could rat the other one out because they both had some... Tie or connection to it? Some connection. I think he'd been appropriate.

The mother got envious, put the daughter, it was in all these pageants, all this weird stuff. The mother did it on purpose of her accident, and then they both had to help each other cover it up. Did she, was she ever, she never served time or anything, is she? Was. The mom? She never served time, no. She ended up passing away of cancer, I believe.

Oh, no shit. But um. I don't think I'm thinking of the same, there's another one. You might be Casey Anthony. Casey Anthony's the wrong thing. She lives here, I heard. Really? Yeah.

What? Where does Casey Anthony live? You gotta get her out to a show, dude. I don't know about a show, dude. I don't know about that one, bro. Jesus. But she, she did, did she serve time? I don't know. Let me see Casey. Where's Casey Anthony now?

That's a great question. No way. She's in Nashville on Broadway every night. Jeez. I walk by way every night. Just, geez. Leave them Broadway girls alone. That's what she's singing, which is a little morose. I heard her saying.

Where does it say she lives? You see anything on it? Move to Murphysboro, Tennessee. Where the fuck is that? I mean, it sounds like it's close. Yeah, it's gotta be close. Wow. Wow. What? Man.

Did they have any good criminals in y'all's town? Any big crime going up over there in Pittsburgh, Texas? They said the Texas Chainsaw Massacre came through town, but you know, who knows? Yeah, that could have just been a... Yeah, I mean, he could have been going through... That could have been a guy just preparing two-stroke motors too. He's still living in Pittsburgh. could have been going to. That could have been a guy just preparing two stroke motors too. He's still living in Pittsburgh.

Honestly, honestly, he probably is. I think I know who it is too. Uh, no, they said, uh, Bonnie and Clyde came through, uh, and one of the sheriffs there, I mean, this was, I mean, it's still, it's only like 4,000 people, but did they say they called them ahead of time or let them know somehow via pigeon or some shit. And they were like, Hey, get the fuck out. We're coming through. If you want to, if you want to live, just get out of our way. Bonnie and Clyde were coming.

Yeah. And they rolled through and then nobody gave them shit. Cause they hit out and, uh, or they from Dallas or somewhere. Where's Bonnie and Clyde from? Let's get a look at them. I'm pretty sure. Oh, Oak Cliff, South Oak Cliff. Hey.

Bonnie was the looker, I think. Yeah. She was a smoke. Let's see it. Let's get a look at them. I'm pretty sure. Oak Cliff, South Oak Cliff, hey. Bonnie was the looker, I think. Yeah, she was a smoke. Let's see, let's get a look at them. Get a look at them, let's see images there. Bonnie and Clyde. Oh, did you watch that one with Emile Hirsch? Uh-uh, is it good? Oh, dude, yeah, it's like a three-part series.

Ooh, I gotta watch that. Oh, bro, it's so good. Ooh, yeah, Bonnie. Back in the? Oh dude, yeah. It's like a three-part series. Ooh, I got to watch that. Oh bro, it's so good. Ooh, yeah, Bonnie. Back in the day, dude. You bet. Bro, if she looks good even in that picture. Cause I think Clyde was, Clyde was, he was a little bitty dude too. Oh my God. Oh, there they are.

Imagine taking those pictures back in the day, dude. Like, Hey, I'm going to hold this to you. Get over there with the photo, like the picture. Yeah. And a can of smoke comes out of it. It must've felt like Satan was doing it. It like goes off and like bullets trigger. Yeah, they fucked him up.

Look at that. That was in, that was in Ambush. Beonville Parish I think. Louisiana? On a Louisiana highway and they still have that car. Where was that at? I think it was in Beonville Parish.

Oh yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, it is a parish over there. It's been 90 years since a posse of lawmen caught up with the outlaw couple Bonnie and Claude. They were ambushed and killed on a North Louisiana road, but their story is still very much alive. In Gibbsland, Louisiana is where it occurred at. Bonnie and Claude.

What kind of pieces of history from Bonnie and Claude? What was their biggest heist? What was Bonnie and Claude's biggest heist, I wonder? Where are you from Louisiana? I'm from Covington, Louisiana. We didn't have anything. Covington. Lee Harvey Oswald went to our middle school. It was our big thing. Damn, that's pretty big. The gang robbed the first national bank in Stuart, Iowa in 1934. They did some kidnapping. Kidnapping? I didn't know that. But it says kidnapping of a man and woman. Oh, that's not kidnapping. Yeah, that's just just napping. Yeah, I was just making friends, dude. And some car theft. Damn, they weren't

even as bad as some of the, um, these Travis Scott fans, I feel like. Yeah. You need to watch that. It's like a three-part series. If you like Millhurst, I love Millhurst. Oh, yeah. He's talented. And it's great, man. But they kind of went through their whole, apparently, it was pretty spot on from everything.

Yeah, I mean, I wonder if I could do a good crime. Do you like the history of the gangsters and stuff, like Dillinger and all that shit? Yeah. That's up my alley, man. Babyface, pretty boy fluid and all that. Oh yeah, remember, they used to have that, what was that movie that had all those guys in it?

Public Enemy. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. A lot of good actors. Dude, yeah, I wonder if I could be a good criminal or not. What kind of crime I would do. I wouldn't do kidnapping because I don't want some dumb fucking kid around all the time. Yeah, no. That'd be annoying as fuck. Yeah, and you're like, and you have to, what, then you're like, and also you're gonna get caught. You're gonna have to go to McDonald's all the time or whatever. That's a bad rap. Yeah, we don't, yeah, no kids. Oh.

So yeah, I would do something with adults probably or... What's a good crime? Train robbing would be sick. Dude, I think about that all the time. Like, back in the gap, like, cowboy days, dude. Just throwing up on that thing. Just throwing up a dynamite in there and throwing it up. And there's some rich guy just eating in the window or whatever.

What the fuck's going on over here? Pop one off into him, just shoot right through his Salisbury steak or something. Next thing you know you're in there. But then you get in there and you have to look for the money. That's gotta be the worst. Somebody tell us where the fuck it is. But no, that's like a gunslinger back in the day, man.

That'd be so sick. I know, it'd be so wild. I was just reading about a lot of hookers and stuff that were on the, like whenever they had gold rush and stuff like that. A lot of hookers started up some big maddaming and stuff out there with those gold rush tails. And it was pretty wild and they would, you know, they'd get other women to work for them and stuff like that. It's just kind of fascinating to learn about. But yeah, I wonder if I could do a good, ooh, you know what would be a good crime?

I think get a hot air balloon, drop in that way. Nobody sees that shit coming. No, absolutely. Like first, what the fuck is happening? Yeah. I don't know, with drones and shit, probably you couldn't get away with that. Maybe, back in the gap, yeah.

Yeah, but yeah, drones, yeah. Wonder if we'll be able to travel by drone. They have that stuff now where you can kind of. I saw one the other day. It's like somebody sits in and it's got the blade stuff. Don't look too safe though. Like how many beers do I need to get in this thing? Especially if your buddy gets a hold of that remote for 30 seconds, dude.

He's taking you right into some power lines, dude. He's done some fucked up shit to me. Let me see it for like, you would have done the same 30 seconds, dude. He's taking you right into some power lines, dude. He's done some fucked up shit to me. Let me see it, bro. You would have done the same for me, buddy. Yeah, and especially if you're wearing like a Vols jersey or something, he just takes you around. He takes you to Athens, Georgia. That's what I'm talking about, yes.

See, that shit don't look safe. Oh, hell no. That's look like something Kid Rock would buy. Kid Rock has one right now. We hear it just pulls up. That thing runs on probably diesel or something, kerosene. Or just runs on some of Kid Rock's bad music too. That's what it is. Kid Rock, dude.

Every time you play ball with a ball, it fucking takes off. Balls. Man. I'm joking, Bob. I'm joking, dude. Oh, Bob, man'm joking, dude. Oh, Bob, man. He loves to have a good time, man.

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I think we didn't have to cancel any on this tour. Oh yeah, Festival I got sick for and then whenever the hurricane came through we had to cancel show that we had to reschedule. But last year during the Hill Paso tour, man like I said it was crazy. I would just get, you I said, it was crazy. I would just get, you know, the whiskey and everything. I give up whiskey, by the way, this year. I stopped drinking whiskey. Switched to tequila. But, you know, last year at the Hell Paso, dude, I was just, I get to a point where I couldn't talk, you know, and I would

just be giving it everything just to say a sentence or whatever. And we had to cancel a couple and that, that sucks. So after that, dude, I was like, no more. I set that whiskey down. Dude, as much as I love it, it's just, man, it's rough on me, man. And like, you know, I can drink tequila and not feel half as bad as whiskey. Well, your legs don't work as good in your neck. Dude, yeah. You get that, that 15 gallon head, bruh, somebody starts swaying back and forth.

And like, I'll be like I can't like I hit the ground and bounce it up really quick and think that nobody noticed But I'm so big it just shakes it off the wall. I'm like, what the fuck is up with this guy? Like Chris Farley just laying on a table. That's nine lives man. Wow, dude. Oh, they kicked you out. I remember that one actually dude. Oh Yeah, when they kicked me out. Yeah, that one actually dude. Oh Yeah, when they kicked me out. That's fun, bro. Yeah your whole journey So you guys do it such a good job of sharing your journey honestly like on social media, dude I feel like you guys are just really earnest about everything that happens in y'all's world Yeah, you know a lot of people don't really operate that way. You know, you guys are just really I think clear to your fans and stuff

do you feel like um, You guys are just really, I think, clear to your fans and stuff. Do you feel like, and I think that alone kind of keeps you away from being like a mainstream thing, because you don't have a PR guy telling you this or telling you that. Yeah, for sure. And it's like, and with the fans too, it's not like if I were to do something, it's kind of like they're not going to be shocked by it. They're like, oh, fuck off for doing that. It's kind of been our thing from the get-go is kind of be ourselves, you know,

like we're not gonna change for anybody. We're not gonna act like somebody that we're not, you know. So I think that's kind of been it. And, you know, people have kind of embraced us for doing that. And that's kind of like, you know, puts us apart from other people, you know, I think. Oh yeah.

So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, some of it maybe wouldn't, would rather it not be out there, but you know, it's just life, man. Yeah, it's the realness, though. Yeah, man, for sure. And it makes it, it really makes it you. It's like, that is him. It's like, that is his world.

And it's really the world that most people can relate to. Who can relate to some type of perfect polished fucking? That's unreal. There's gotta be some excitement a little bit, you know? There's gotta be a little bit of excitement, a little bit of spice. Somebody's gotta go missing. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Somebody's gotta go to jail. We gotta figure out where this dude is. Yeah, you guys have always kind of been in like, and kind of put in this outlaw country type of place, you know? Do you feel like there's still a lot of outlaws in the business? Do you feel like it's growing? Do you feel like there's still a lot of outlaws in the business?

Do you feel like it's growing? Do you feel like it's changing? What do you think? Who are the outlaws? Who were your outlaws at first? Man, yeah, I think there's some outlaws out there for sure. Maybe not that are as big, I would say, but there's definitely some dogs out there.

Man, I don't know kind of hard to I don't know who you say is a dog out there man Paul Cawthon Paul Cawthon is about as close to you know Paul Cawthon is I've heard of it I've heard of him he's about as close to a you know who Paul Cawthon is? I've heard of him. He's about as close to outlaw as I get, man. He doesn't give a fuck. Dude, he's my dog, yeah. He's a beast, man. His music's great. Man, he lives what he writes, man. He's definitely an outlaw right now, man.

Gang. Y'all'd like to get to meet that man. Dude, you've gotta have him on, man. He is his own person, and dude, he's a legend. He's one on one, huh? Absolutely, man. He's Texas legend for sure. I think there's a lot of guys that still,

I mean, in a weird way, there are, a lot of people kind of do it their own way now because they make their own road. Yeah, for sure. Like with social media, especially, and just filming your own content or behind the scenes or whatever, you, you make your own shit now. It's not like you need to have some big producer help you do it.

Yeah. Like I've said before, like, I don't think the word outlaw is what it used to be. You know, like I think it's, it's kind of doing what you're talking about. Just going out and doing everything your own way, you know, paving your own road and just kind of being a you're talking about, just going out and doing everything your own way, paving your own road, and just kind of being a trailblazer pretty much. I think that's, that can go into being considered as being an outlaw. Because it's not the 80s anymore,

we can't get away with a whole lot of shit these days, man. Everybody's a narc. Dude, man. Dude, remember when they had fucking narcs and shit, dude? Dude, first of all, the shittiest job you could get in high school was being a fucking narc. Dude, that's weird. Bro, they gave you a little card, it was like, congratulations, thank you for-

You're a narc? Yeah, yeah. And it said it on the card and I was like, that's the one thing you can't put on the card, dude. And then that dude would, like he would try to arrest people at a party or something. People would beat the shit out of them. Get the fuck away from me. School's out bitch. And then it would take the cops like three weeks to have a meeting with the kid or whatever, and it's just the whole system.

That's why. Yeah. I wish, uh, I can go back and think about like the Molle crew days, like the 80s, bro. Did you, did you live through the 80s? I was alive in them, but yeah, I was small. Yeah, you were younger. But yeah, I mean, you talk to guys like...

Like, I remember my first concert I went to was Marilyn Manson, right? And this dude took us and yeah, he was like a... I guess he was like a pedophile or whatever. We didn't know he was, right? So he was just a guy we knew who was also a pedophile, but we didn't know that part. But anyway, he took us over, he's like, I'll get y'all tickets to Marilyn Manson,

we just started listening to him, dude. And I think we're probably about 14. And this dude dropped us off there, and we're the only people underage that were in there. I think it was probably an 18 show. And Manson cut open Twiggy Ramirez or like one of his, one of the other band members with a bottle, somebody cut,

one of the band members cut themselves open or cut another one open with a bottle on stage. He was like bleeding everywhere. The ambulance had to come. It was- I bet y'all were like, holy shit. It was awesome. Dude, we're in the bathroom peeing

and somebody goes, what are these kids doing in here? And then somebody else from another stall goes, don't worry. Somebody will. That's what somebody said, dude. Well, the first red flag should have been this dude just getting y'all Maryland matching tickets. Being like, oh my God. Richard Slangenstein was his name, bro. Did he go in with y'all? No, no, no, no.

He went to gamble. Pull him up, Richard Slangenstein. Pull him up and he was just a real. He was a known pedophile. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck that Putin. He hadn't won awards or whatever, but he was. Oh my God.

Yeah, he was in the trenches or whatever. Is that him? No, maybe there's more the trenches or whatever. Is that him? No, maybe there's more than one of them. That guy right there with the father out there. We can't show the wrong one. That guy. That looks like. Oh, that's a, yeah, that's a liberal. Oh, man.

That's all that is, dude. Yeah, the old guy. That guy's a bookie. Hold on. That one guy's a liberal. Oh, man. That's all that is, dude. You got Theo, you got Theo Bulls up. That guy's a bookie. Hold on. That one guy's a bookie. Go back. Yeah, that guy's just a bookie. Up one?

No, right? Right there. Yeah. That guy's just taking wagers on the Jets, dude. That's, yeah. We have to take some of this out because we just accused a lot of guys of being pedophiles. But no, old Slangenstein, he wasn't bad. He was what he was.

Slangenstein. That's what they called him. But yeah, that was my first show. What was yours, man? First show. That you really remember? Yeah, I mean, so my mom played, she'd do like old opera houses and stuff like that.

She was a singer? Yeah, she sang and just played with like a bunch of old drunk honky tonk dudes, right? I'll be that little shit head kid like running up and down the hall throwing popcorn and people and uh, yeah So, I mean I was I was around music growing up, but I think my first actual concert Was uh Stoney LaRue. You ever heard of Stoney LaRue? Bring him up. He's uh, he's a man or woman. Uh dude He uh, he's like a he Dirt King, man, Oklahoma cat.

There he is. And you need to get into his music, man. He's phenomenal. And it was at the Waco Fairgrounds. My cousins were going to Baylor. I think I was like sixth or seventh grade maybe. And these college girls come up to me like hey, what's going on? You know and my cousin her friend steps in she's like hey, babe

Here's your beer and like just trying to deter them or whatever and I take this beer and I hammer it and they're like Oh, whatever. She's like, what the fuck you doing? We're supposed to drink that beer I'm like, so we get back to the hotel that night. My mom beats my ass. It's all good. Oh, yeah, but start I'll never forget it. Yeah. Texas moon. Stoney LaRue. Yeah. Um, and is he still alive?

Oh good. Yeah. He's got some, uh, he's got some bangers. That warms my heart, dude. I just saw Struggle Jennings play. We were playing in the same town. Oh really? Pretty cool.

I haven't, I haven't, uh, I hadn't met Shro yet. Him and yeah, cause he runs with Jelly Roll of friends and Yellow Wolf, that whole gang, man but that was really that white sort of, yeah, that Slamerican, that sort of fucking missing person. I like Wolf, man. Oh yeah, all of that Yellow Wolf, Jelly Roll. Catfish Billy, bro? Oh. I used to listen to Pop the Trunk before football games, I like wolf man. Oh yeah. All of that yellow wolf, jelly wolf.

I used to listen to Pop the Trunk before football games man. And just like. I don't know if there is a better anthem dude. Dude, it's so good. Yeah dude, they even had that jelly roll out there, yellow wolf. We even saw Jelly Wolf was out there. We're like who the fuck is that? It's just some dude in ICP man.

Yeah dude. It's just some dude in ICP. It was Jelly Wolf. Yeah. It was just, it was a St. Bernard with a couple of face tattoos on him. Oh, man. Driving a cyber truck. Well, we saw a struggle, man. It was awesome to go see him. He puts on a great show. Where was it? I think, I feel like it was in Montana, somewhere where we got to go meet him backstage after and with his crew. He's got a great group. See who's performing with him real quick. Who's out there on the road with the-

I mean, that's another ally right there. I mean- With Struggle Jennings. Yeah, he's been out there doing it, man. He's been out there doing it. Yeah, and you know, there's something also, there's something nice about when you have a, when you're not as mainstream,

that there's a real relationship between you and your fans. Yeah, for sure. Kaitlyn Curtis and Brianna Harness are Brianna Harness. I don't know if that's the newest tour or not. Is that Tom McDonald? Oh yeah, it might be. Is that either rapper? They had a song together I think. Yeah, he's cool.

Oh, Tommy Vex dude? It's Tommy Vex. Wow, bro, that's crazy. I know him. I know him. That's just crazy. Well, some of you just, it's amazing who you see on Google of who you know. Rock music.

Yeah, he's a rock dog right there. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, there's something nice about when something is still grassroots. Yeah, for sure. That you feel this weird thing. It's like, it's like your thing. Yeah, and I feel nice about when something is still grassroots. Yeah, for sure. That you feel this weird thing. It's like, it's like your thing. Yeah.

Oh, and I feel like it gives the fans like a, a more of a connection, you know, like that he's one of us, you know, like type shit. You go see him and then like, man, he's one of us, dude. He's the same. We got one of us. We accepted one of us. What is that? The Wolf of Wall Street when they're sitting there.

You never see that? I've seen it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what, he's in a wheelchair? What happened? I don't know. I think that's whenever we're talking about the little people strapping them to the board. Oh yeah.

And sliding them down at the pins. Different times, dude. When was, that was the been, early 90s, late 80s? Yeah. Oh, dude, if I was back in, I would have definitely been doing, I'm not going to say it out loud. I'll spell it real quick in case there's any kids listening to the cars anywhere. M-U-R-D-E-R-S.

And that's what I would have been doing. But now they catch you. You can't even do no good crime anymore. You can't. That's the thing. We're taking a lot of fun out of it. You can't be a train robber. You can't. do no good crime anymore. You can't. That's the thing we've taken a lot of fun out of it. You can't be a train robber. The horse will ratchet out now. It's only for like a little bit, like five years at a time, 10 years at a time,

until it blows up and it's like, ah man, you missed that. Like what do you mean? I mean just like train robbing or like robbing shit or whatever or you know, partying really fucking hard in the eighties and then just slowing down. People part, I just, I wonder who partied the hardest.

We had Tommy Lee on one time, he's a fucking greatest dude. Oh, I'm a big Molly Crew guy, so. Bro, they were so good. Girls, girls, girls. Oh yeah. Girls, girls, girls. God, dude, I can't even imagine. And he was good looking.

Yeah, that was the deal. Like they had everything, bro. Matt, you're being famous and then also being good looking. Like, what a lucky guy. I think Tommy was, he was really young too, right? Whenever all that was going on. Yeah. Imagine having all that, all that going on at 21, 20, bro.

I wouldn't be alive. I would not be alive. There's no way. I wouldn't be alive. Like Columbia, people from Columbia or whatever, the ambassador, they're always sending me these, come down to Columbia, we'd love to have you down here, I guess.

Yeah, I don't want to be there, bro. I'm like, dude, they're like, we'll give you five free tickets to Columbia. I'm like, dude, I will fucking. If they do holler at me, I'll go. I will die down there, bro. I can go to Columbia. They said it's actually really nice to go to.

I'm sure it is. But I think it's yeah, I just think they want to do ransoms or whatever. That's the thing. So they try to get you down there. Fuck that. And they want to do ransoms. Yeah, I would not make it down there. Oh dude, if I even grew up in Columbia, I would get an eight ball for like my seventh birthday. I would fucking, and it would be lights out, bro.

We're mainlining this shit. It's my birthday. What's the town in Texas? We got some shows coming up in Texas. We're going to Benton. Benton, Texas? Yeah. We're going to Texas A&M over there.

And, um, nice. Where are you? We're at college station. Not sure. There's a new casino in Benton. Oh, no shit. Yep. Is it?

Oh, Belton. Sorry. Belton. Yeah. Belton. They keep changing the name of it. Belton's out there by Waco. Yeah.

We're going over to Belton. Uh, Waco is where, so when Parker was on, he told you this story about that strip club or whatever we went to. And yeah, that's right outside of Waco. Is it a good spot? No, it's the shittiest strip club in the world. Is that the best one you've ever been to, you think? Strip club? Yeah.

Absolutely not, no. But it needed to be redecorated, I guess. And so I just, I gave it to him. But who the fuck is even decorating? There were just mirrors everywhere. And I was like, man, fuck one of these mirrors. Dude, I found, I found the pictures that he was talking about, like us kicking holes in the drywall and shit.

And so somebody had found them and sent them to me. And I was like, oh, fuck, man. And it's just us kind of like passed out next to them, chalk, like drywall everywhere. Wow. What, we had some good times. I've been to some, I'm trying to think of one. Oh, in Shreveport, Louisiana, that is strip club.

And they had a woman in there just built like a damn Cenotar or whatever. Is that the one? Or Minotaur. Pull up Cenotar or Minotaur. One of them's on test 200 I think. I don't remember which one it is but one of them. Which one is that? That's Centaur. Yeah. Centaur. This lady was Centaur'd up. She was definitely... This lady was centored up. She was definitely... It's probably Larry Flincy.

I feel like he was in Shreveport. Larry Flincy is pretty good. This was not that good. This was... This lady looked like a damn off-duty pony. She just had like... Like a Monday night. And she was on the tallest heels ever. She was trying to make us up. Look, I think she was hurt them heels, bro.

Them bitches were, I mean, they, if you took, they had the little sticker on them with like this on the top of a ladder, do not step right here. That was all them bitches, dude. Oh, she was in them. God. There's some nerve racking. Yeah. You spend a lot of time. Yeah. Bitches dude. Oh He was in him God Yeah, you spent a lot of time Over the years I have I used to go to comedy clubs there You know what's kind of sad is you go to clubs and over the years they closed down. Yeah Yeah, I mean kind of the same. I mean there's like

Businesses really don't last a whole lot like a long time over there for some reason. I don't know why, I mean, it's kind of everywhere in Louisiana, East Texas, like, you know, unless they're established or a big chain, they just, they don't last for some reason. I don't know what it is. That's a good point, man. Yeah, I always wanted to go to Longview

whenever I got to New York. Yeah, see, that's, every time I went to like the mall and somewhere nice to eat or whatever, we'd have to go to Longview to go, so. Yeah. I grew up, how far did you grow up from Shreveport? Like four hours. Yeah, okay.

So you're like middle of them. Yeah, I'm a little, I'm like, I'm north of New Orleans about one hour. Okay. So our town's pretty normal. Y'all go to Beaumont? About 4,000, about the same size as your town. Kind of a perfect size for a town.

I love it. Dude, there was nothing better, dude. Cause you were just, there was like two, there was enough, there was just enough people to make things interesting. Yeah. Like you knew everybody, but the slave for you, you didn't know. You kind of made up your own stories. It was kind of like, kind of mysterious. Like, I wonder what they do.

Why don't they come to church? Oh yeah. Like kind of mysterious, like I wonder what they do. Why don't they come to church? Oh yeah, we had a dude that had a, they bought him a bike and he was, he might've been mentally disabled or something, but he might not have been. Right. We don't know him. And, but his bike had a baby seat on the back of it. So there was this story that like, he had a kid that had like, uh, gone missing or whatever, and he would always ride in the round. It was like a sad man whose wife had left him

after the baby had been missing or whatever. And that's what people thought for years. And it was like people would pray for him when he drove by or whatever, or give him milk money, all kind of shit, leave pies in his yard and stuff. And then years later we found out he's just a mentally handicapped guy

and somebody had gotten him a, um, a used bike that had a baby seat on it off. He just didn't know how to take it off. Yeah. And we're like, Oh brother, we fucking gave that dude a lot of dessert. The prayers were used though. You know, the prayer, those, those good. But it was so sad. He would always be like in the distance, like looking at us, like when we got off the school bus. I think he just wanted.

Yeah. I think he just wanted. Yeah. I think he just wanted buddies, you know. Oh man, dude. That's good. But it's so crazy, just because of that story, we didn't know, we thought he was this sad dad figure.

Yeah, so you come up with all these different, you know, scenarios and stories and shit, and then it's kind of like, it just becomes like a big fable. Like it's like, oh man. But you have a town that's just big enough to support that kind of, where there's like just enough room for rumors to happen. For sure, oh, 100%.

You can't get like the gossip all over the drama or something like that. And I remember when I was a kid, you would hear like an older kid's name, like he was like two years older, three or four years older, years older and you're like oh that's the toughest guy in the whole world. Don't mess with him dude. He's so cool. That was crazy dude. That was fun being young. It was man. Yeah you said your parents were kind of strict growing up and were they to your siblings as well or just you? No just me me, honestly, man. Like, I think you were just a bad kid. I honestly, I was kind of a little shit there growing up, man. But, uh, I mean, you know, it was kind of strict on me.

I mean, but, but like, I mean, I was, I was always well-mannered, you know, I mean. Are you one of the most likable guys? You were one of the, you were by far one of the guys anywhere. I have never heard anyone say anything uncomplimentary about Coetzee. Except your parents, I guess. Yeah, except for Gary Dale just whooping the shit out of me. But no, like, I mean, I guess as like a little kid, I was kind of a turd because I mean, I was, I was the only kid till I was eight years old.

So, you know, I didn't know no better, you know, and then Presley came up and my younger sister Zoe. But uh, why'd they wait eight years? Do you think any word on that? I don't know, man. I have no idea. That's right or kind of. After, well, yeah, whenever it happened I was like, fuck, bro. Like this, yeah, yeah, because like, yeah. They had enough. Yeah, for sure. But uh, yeah, I don't know They were super strict on me and then my middle sister. I mean not really and then Zoe K They just let her run ragged, bro. Is she all right? Oh, she's sweetheart. She's she's an angel man. She's a married or not Not married super smart

Yeah, she's almost done with college Oh god, I got a guy you're gonna be one of the first Wetzels to graduate college. No way. So shout out ZK. Let's get a picture of her. Zoe? Yeah, Zoe K. Zoe K. Wetzel.

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, she's graduating. Yeah, man. I think she's got like a couple semesters left. Oh hell yeah. Zoe K right there, where'd she graduate from? So she went to, she went to Texas Tech.

She got her associates in Texas Tech, at Texas Tech. And then. Oh yeah, Red Raider country. That's Cliff Kingsbury country over there. And then. And Mahomes country, isn country. That's Cliff Kingsbury country over there. Yeah. And then. And Mahomes country, isn't it? Mahomes, you bet. Uh, yeah.

And so, um, now she's just finished finishing up nursing school. So. Oh, is she going to be a nurse? No way. She wants to be a nurse practitioner. And so I was like, no, it's like, fuck it. You know, I do the whole thing, you know, might as well. But yeah, be a, be a fucking, yeah, be the Carmelo Anthony in nurses.

You know what I'm saying? Be like a doctor. Who gives a shit? Yeah, be the best one. Yeah. I'm trying to get some scripts. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.

Too much of this. Yeah. I was thinking behind this shit that's been stepped on. For these shady ass motherfuckers. Oh, for sure, dude. I want that governmental stuff, baby. Tired of buying shit behind a McDonald's, man. Come on.

Yeah, my sister's a nurse. I just asked her, she's like, what do you want for Christmas? I said, I want some Tordall shots. OK, so if my back gets bad on the road, I can just use them. Even if I'm not hurting, whenever I'm getting out of here, I'm like, give us some of that Tordall. Put it in. Oh, yeah.

Give me all the goods. That's how I'll do it. Yeah, I got to get a wife, man, next year. That's one of my goals. Yeah. 2020 wife, that's what I'm calling it. Yeah, wife 2025. Amen.

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like, I remember whenever I was in, I got kicked out of school at Tarleton State. And so, and they'd like to come in and check on me like once a year or whatever. Who do your parents? Yeah, my parents. And so I'm living basically in a garage on a couch in a garage at one of my buddy's house. And they like come in and it's like, and I was sick for some reason. I had like the flu or something, but I didn't have no money to go get no meds or nothing. So they come up, take care of me and they're like, oh we're coming up and they walk in this garage And there's like the cats running around and shit. I'm just kind of laid up on the couch

We're like, ah, we ain't doing this shit. Like what is wrong with you, bro? Well, I'm sick right now They're like well, this is not gonna happen anymore but I was too I was too proud to be like to ask him for money and shit, you know, cuz I Just I didn't want to go that route. And you were out of school at that point? I was out of school. Did they know you were out of school or no? Yeah they knew and and this was kind of like. Now you graduated or you were just taking a break? No, no they kicked me out. They said get the fuck out of here. Force break. Yeah and so this is like two or probably three years, probably 2014 ish

and we're you know we're traveling we're making we're not making great money but we're making enough for me to pay rent on a couch in the garage and So they were like, you know, my dad he's work construction. He's like, you know, come back You make pretty good money a couple years, you know, you can be a superintendent You'll run a crew like me. I'm like, ah, you know, that sounds great But you know, and I've got buddies that are out in the oil field, you'll run a crew like me. I'm like, ah, you know, that sounds great. But, you know, and I've got buddies that are out in the oil field, you know, making damn good money.

And it's just, it was kind of a shitty, shitty time of life. But I think that kind of, that stuff right there is kind of what helped build me to what I am today. You know, it made me, you know, hard-shelled, you know, and it kind of makes me appreciate everything that I've got going on now a little bit more, you know, having to go through those times. But yeah, my parents, they were like, this is not cool.

So you need to figure it out. Like if you're going to do it, you know, do it. So man, they've been super supportive the entire time. So it's been great. Do you have any songs that are like about your mother or dad or anything? Oh, no, surprisingly I don't. I've got a shit ton of songs. So I'll probably write one now. They're gonna be watching. They'll be like, no, we don't have a fucking song about this. Yeah, you just never know because sometimes it's interesting where people find how they find it's kind of hard to write a song

You know, like you see a lot of songs that are kind of love ballads, you know, for sure but it's hard to write one that, Morgan has that one, what's it like? Oh, that's a banger. Oh yeah, thought you should know. That's a great one. And I think there's a lot of people out there that want to have a song like that.

I think it also touched on a nerve. It's like, there's not really that son to mother song out there. Or son to father song. There's some of those more probably. That's a hard song to write though, you know? I feel like those songs are hard to write. Oh for sure.

Yeah, that Morgan song's a banger. I've mentioned my parents in songs before, but I just haven't wrote a song about them. Yeah, maybe it'll happen. Things happen as they happen. But it's just interesting. I never really thought that it's kind of tough to create. That's a tough one to kind of make Yeah, I think that's why that one hit me so hard. I think of Morgan's just was because it did Yeah, you just don't hear it. It brings home for I mean pretty much everybody, you know

You guys toured together some yeah, we did a AT&T with them this year How cool was that? That's what I told him. I was like man I appreciate you had me out to any of the shows would have been great, but to play Cowboys Stadium, you know, Cowboys is my team, you know, Rep Dallas. And so just dude, bro, I got out there and like, that's kind of what I was like, I couldn't even like comprehend what was going on the whole time. I'm just like staring around and looking, trying to take it all in, bro. And it was like, what is going on, man?

It was, it was insane. It was something I'll never forget. You know, I can't thank Morgan enough for having us out. Yeah, it's so, just to be able to do that, dude, that's so crazy to have that moment to go walk out there. Bro, man. It was just like, you just like kept, like, I never even been on the field before, right?

Like, you just kept looking at like people all the way up. You're like, oh, what? I was like, you know, I've been kicked out of the stadium a few times, so this was, we had to get a couple signatures to get me in over there. Dude, I'm in the back, they're like, what the fuck, who let him back in here? Yeah, bro, that's so great.

Has Dears Tour, now I'm guessing it's probably expanded, I know that you had an audience that was outside of Texas, for sure. I know you you had an audience that was outside of Texas for sure. I know you have had a strong grassroots audience for a long time and even bigger than grassroots. I don't mean to use those terms to sound like it isn't. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I'm not trying to like. No, no. Okay, but now that you've found that you're touring places that are outside of places you didn't think you would go before. Because that's when things are like, wow, this is kind of crazy. Yeah, for sure.

And I mean, we've been doing it for a while, you know, outside of Texas. I think we got outside of Texas probably 17, 18. But I mean, even now, whenever we go to two new places that are sold out, it's kind of like, man, this is crazy. You know, you kind of step back and like, shit, this is it's pretty wild. But yeah, it's I mean, we just got done with Europe. We're over there. We did UK.

No way. Yeah. That was all the shows were sold out. You'll go to Manchester, London, Manchester, London, uh, Glasgow, uh, all of them. Glasgow. Leeds, I think. Leeds. Oh yeah.

And we did, uh, Amsterdam and we did Germany, bro. It was wild. Wow. Have you ever been to Europe before? Amsterdam, then we did Germany, bro, it was wild. Wow, have you ever been to Europe before? We did, we did an acoustic run over there back in like 2018, so, but we haven't been back since. And so a lot of the fans were like, were fans of the older music, you know?

Like they dug on the new stuff, but like they were singing everywhere, it's all the old shit, so I was like, fuck yeah. Wow. It was a great time, man. That's so sick. We got to get back in like the smaller rooms too, so. And you're going to Australia soon too, huh? Yeah, we'll be there in March, I think. Really March, so.

It's so great. I've never been to Australia, I'm ready. It's so great, dude. We rented bikes one day on the beach, right? You could just rent like these beach cruiser bikes, you know, or just like these motorized bikes, you know and we rented some and they You can take them out on the beach and literally it just the most beautiful beach Nobody's out there and you just just ripping these bitches, dude

I just heard it's kind of like Texas awesome like like Australia Texas have like this thing Really nice hell yeah, that's awesome It's kind of like Texas, honestly. Like, Australia and Texas have this thing together. So I don't know. Like. It's the biggest following, I'll say. Really? Nice. Hell yeah, that's awesome. Shout out Australia. Bro, there's nothing like Australia. And the people and the women are,

and everybody's good over there. They're great, dude. I cannot wait, man. They're great and everybody's good over there. And when I was over there, we went and saw, one night We saw a matchbox 20 and Google dolls that show we popped over there and check that out for a little bit we went to a

Fred again show over there DJ is a DJ's that was pretty hype Were you were you doing shows over there? Yeah, nice. What are we all do we going to everywhere except for Perth? We have to go back and go to Perth. I might go to Sydney and Perth or if we're able to, dude, you have to be on my friends, Sean and Marley. You have to, are you going to be in Sydney? Uh, Queensland, Queensland. What is Queensland? Is that the beach?

We're trying, we're, we're, we're hoping to get a couple more shows over there. So if we are, we need to get on that. Yeah. You need to get on that. Yeah. You need to go on my buddy Sean and Marley's show dude. Bring it up, bring it up, bring it up. Sean and Marley. Where's it like a podcast or what is it? Uh, no, they do, um, Sean and Marley S E A there they are right there. Sean and Marley. Oh shit. Yes. Fuck. Yeah.

My dog's dude. You gotta go And make a Texas dish with them. They're great, yes, hell yeah. Do some chicken fried steak with them, bro. Hell yeah. Yeah dude, they are legends. Get down with Sean and Marley. I didn't know they were in Australia. They were on Hot Wings? No way. Bring it up. Hi there everybody, welcome to the Hot Wings program.

What? Cheese. Cheers. You and Marley look a little bit alike. I look like Sean. We should do our own show. I look like Sean. Theo and Co.

That guy's getting cool. I call the fire department. Wow. Have you been on hot ones? Yeah, I went on there years ago. It's fun, but I didn't think it was that hot to be honest with you. Really? Yeah. We're used to that shit though.

Yeah dude, one of them, I'll say this, one of them, it's more like, it's not really a sauce, it's more like something you clean the bathroom Yeah, okay. Y'all are fucking cheap right here Well, I saw like they saw for like tepid to you and and shit like that I was like what we put that on eggs in the morning, you know Yeah, some of it was easy and in some of it you're like, oh they using this to take rust off of the uh, tire well You're like, Oh, they use this to take rust off of the, uh, tire well.

What's like the hot, like what is, what's an area of Texas that you think has the best food you've been all over there? Either Austin San Antonio has got some really good food, man. Santa Mexican food, San Antonio for sure. Austin just has everything, bro. Like barbecue, Mexican food, San Antonio for sure. Austin just has everything, bro. Like barbecue, Mexican food, obviously. Fort Worth, man, Fort Worth, lights out. El Paso's got really good food. Yeah, what's up with El Paso?

It always gets a weird rap, I feel like. It's kind of this mystery. I think they want to keep it a mystery, man, because there's so much shit going on. Because right there next to Juarez. Juarez is no no. You play Juarez? We haven't, but I mean, it a mystery, man, because there's so much shit going on. Because it's right there next to Juarez. Juarez is no no. You play Juarez? We haven't, but I mean, it's like they tell you not to go over there or whatever.

I had a buddy who went over there like a month ago, or two months ago, and he was like, yeah, we just walked across and went and had a couple beers and then came back over. I was like, dude, what? But yeah, man, El Paso, we record out there in Torneo, just south of El Paso. Torneo it's called? Torneo, yeah. And it's a great time with food out there, phenomenal.

It's really good. Best Mexican food you'll probably ever eat. Outside of El Paso? Outside El Paso, in El Paso. In El Paso. If you're there, hit me up. I'll send you some... Yeah.

What do you think about now with music kind of moving forward? What do you kind of look at like I mean you guys are touring off of nine lives now And then like do you start to think about? What do you kind of think about I know you have a Christmas album that's coming out. Yeah We have it coming out here in a couple days. I guess. Couple days, I think December 6th. Yeah, Friday. And then January, man, just came back in the studio. Starting to write, we'll start writing tomorrow for that actually, stay here.

And then January, man, just came back in the studio, trying to do the same thing, I guess. Yeah, just that. We got a lot of festivals this year coming up. And then, I don't know, a couple surprises. Yeah? Yeah. We're excited about it, man.

This year was wild, man. For us, it was insane. And this year went by so fucking quick. I know, huh? Like, dog. How is that? What is that about? I don't know.

Maybe that's another part of getting older, but I just feel like it was New Year's Eve and now we're back at Christmas again, you know? It was so fast, dude. I think people are living fast too because of COVID or whatever. I think people are trying to live as much as they can. Yeah, maybe that's it. I don't know. But I just looked up and I was like, because the tour went by. I mean, we were on the road for three months and it went by super quick.

I was looking forward to Europe and then Europe went by quick and I was like, holy shit. So I don't know man, just getting back out there, putting out some more music, trying to keep the fans happy. It all happens so fast.

It does man. It's kind of weird how even like you could be dreaming or hoping about something and it's like the most important thing in the world. And then it comes and it's gone. Comes and it's like, oh man, now what do I gotta look for to you know?

It's weird, it's just kind of, yeah, like I'm always pinning like my, not necessarily my happiness, but like I'll be pinning like a lot of my excitement on one day or one moment. I do that a lot. And there's such a buildup of it, but then once it's gone, it's just, like it never even happened. It's like, damn, that was it.

Yeah, I feel the same shit, man. I'll get so fixated on some shit, you know? And then once it's there, try to relish it for as long as you can, but it goes by so quick. They gotta get you on game day down there, man. I know it, man. That'd be a fun one. Did you do that with, is that with Pat?

Yeah, I got to do it like a year ago. It was great, dude. They called literally the night before, like 10 o'clock, like you wanna come on tomorrow? And I was like, all right. I wouldn't put me on. Dude, we were talking about that at lunch. Like Pat is just like completely.

Oh, that guy's unreal. Dude, he's insane. He's the most, that guy's unreal, dude. There's nobody like Pat McAfee Yeah, he's like the male Caitlin Clark of his job. Yeah Yeah, man he is They should have you down the next room that red on there The Texas verse It was great.

That game, man. I think that was the, I think it was the first time in what, like 11 or 12 years that they played. And everybody was, man, Texas was on cloud 10, man. We were fired up. People were stoked, man. What a great place to be from. Yeah, for sure.

Cause Texas, I feel like if, say if there's like, people start to divide off into their own states, that's gonna be be a lot of people who don't want to go live in. Sure. Well, hell, like everybody's starting to move down, you know, you got all these people from California and I mean, it's kind of like Nashville, you know, everybody's moving to Nashville as well. But are you coming, are you coming to Texas? I'm coming to look at a place there in Austin. Nice man, fuck yeah. I need to get just, I want to be close to like a, yeah, I just, I would like to have, to be able to be in both places. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Cause I find myself, I've had an apartment in Los Angeles for a while for this whole year, I've probably been there. Are you still gonna place back in LA? But three weeks I've been there, whole year. It's a, yeah, I think being able to bounce back and forth from here and there would be dope. Yeah. And you've been awesome, right?

It's got everything, man. Like it's, it's bad ass. It's fun. You can still get mugged a little like that. Still, yeah, you still gotta hold onto your wallet. Oh yeah, if there ain't no crime, the food ain't that good. You gotta have crime to have food.

It's too white for me. Yeah, dude. If you don't have some good crime. Yeah, what we're gonna do, what did you, Kamen asked me about doing the 12 days of Christmas for that thing. What were we supposed to do? Oh yeah, no, man.

Just read it? No, yeah, I was gonna have you read it, but I should've thought about it like two or three months later. We could do it now when we didn't even be able to record or no. No, no, we're good. So I don't know if I had to go to a studio or something. I was just kind of overwhelmed No, I hit him up and I was like man. This is kind of last notice like if you do one next year

I'll be happy to do yeah for sure. We'll uh, we'll get together Cuz I wanted to find a way to make it funny, but I was just like yeah fucking burnt out I told I was like man. He's like what's kind of like the overall deal. I was like just telling to be himself You know, I just wanted you we got a you got, you know, Ben Burgess, Ben Burgess. Oh yeah, the songwriter? We got Ben to do it, yeah. And Ben, you know, Ben. Bring him up, bring up a picture of him.

Ben is, he's his own person, bro. And he went in there and did his, did his like Texas draw and shit. Oh dude, he's a very famous songwriter, isn't he? He's a bad cat, man. He's like the greatest one, isn't he? Yeah, I love Oberg. Wow.

I met him years ago with Charles Kelly, I think at some event that they had, Josh Kelly years ago. Yeah, he's a bad dude, man. Yeah, he's the guy. Well, he got in there and he read it like he was reading it to his grandchildren or some shit. Sounds good. He did? Yeah, it's cool. Well, if if you guys need somebody next year man, I was gonna say otherwise we could just record it right here

I just didn't I think know what to do. Yeah Yeah, what do you do? Yeah with the Christmas album? So what is it? It's just like I heard some of the ones from last year I saw like you guys had a cool animation that was online. Yeah, like you in the back of a Santa sleigh Yeah, it's just like just some like reimagined songs, like we just, basically like covering them up, just making them ours. Like chestnuts roasting on like a bottle of fireball or something? Yeah, a barbecue pit or some shit. Oh yeah.

It kind of gives us something to do at the end of the year, because we're usually not in the studio, So just kind of gives us reason to, and it's, you know, it's something that people can go back to every single Christmas. So, I don't know. Do you, when you start thinking about, like, what are things you feel like are missing from your own life? Do you feel? Is that a weird question? I don't know. I've been getting a lot of those today. Very intimate questions. I don't know, man. I mean, you just hit such a neat place in your career. Yeah, for sure. I don't think it's anything career-wise.

I don't know. It's just always go, go, go. And I don't know, I think not having the, maybe the alone time or whatever it is, just to kind of reset. I was with Bobby and them earlier and we were talking about it and that was kind of one of the things I didn't want.

I like being alone, like I'm a loner, because I'm always surrounded around people and stuff, but I like to have the time to myself just to kind of relax and reset and do all that shit, so. I don't know, I don't know what is missing. Life's good, man, life's good to me. Yeah, and that's a good point too,

sometimes it doesn't have to be. Sometimes I'll like, I feel like I always need to have an answer for that question. I didn't even realize that until just now. Yeah, yeah for sure. And then I'm kind of setting myself up for failure in a little bit of a way, because I'm always thinking that there's something missing Yeah, yeah, that can be a problem. But I mean

But sometimes when when life is as good as you think it is, maybe it's not you know, so Do you it must be? Inspiring to see your career evolve continue to evolve right and grow your fan base continue to grow. Because then you start thinking, well, what can I do? You know, like, not that you don't think that before, but you're like, okay, how can I challenge myself now? How can I, what else could I maybe do? I've got here, you know, where else could I go? Or what else could I do?

That's kind of interesting, you know? Because you don't know what this looks like until you're standing there, you know? Well, I'll find myself like getting into things that, you know? Well, I'll find myself getting into things that I probably would never have gotten into and be like, well, maybe that would be a cool, cool, like, I'd say acting or something, something like that.

I think that would be really cool to get into. And the bar owner should be getting a new bar right now. Yeah, we've been doing the bar deal and the right room. Yeah, you need to come down to Fort Worth, man. Yeah, dude. Whenever we're touring through there, I think if we don't go through Dallas we'll have to make it happen yeah sure and what kind of joint is it in there they got billy or what is it it's a it's kind of like a honky tonk during the day with food and then by 9 o'clock it turns to a club man it's like a Texas club I guess

like a cowboy club yeah I guess, like a cowboy club. I don't know how to explain it. We got a bottle, there you go, yeah. It's a ride, it's a good time. Gang, dude, that's your place? Yeah, bro. You have to come out. Bro, congratulations, man.

We just opened up a second location, or about to, in Houston. Hopefully getting it up by February. See see that's what I'm missing about party You can open up something like that like I'd have to open up a place where people kind of cry about how they feel That's what I say whenever I open it I was like I just want a place I can go fucking party and not have to worry about going to Like like nobody can kick me out of the motherfucker Except for you, you know, sometimes I need to kick me out of the motherfucker. Except for you.

You know, texting yourself. Sometimes I need to get myself out of there. You just see me dragging myself out. Fucking riot room. That's so cool, dude. Just to have your own bar. Everybody dreams of that. You know, people dream of that in their lives, you know, it's been a lot of fun.

You guys are opening up a new one. Yeah. Don in Houston. It'll open for February, but it's almost finished up. It's been going good, man. No, I never thought that I'd have a bar or whatever, but got in with the right people and just kind of, I don't know, it's been cool. Yeah, especially in Texas, especially in your space, you know?

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we didn't, we had talked about putting in one here in Nashville and I was like, I'm not stepping on nobody's toes, you know, that's not my domain. I'm going to stick to what I know down there in Texas. Yeah. Yeah, you got to be careful. I think about that sometimes too, like about getting involved in certain stuff. You don't want to act like it's your place just because you're there. Yeah, for sure be careful. I think about that sometimes too, like about getting involved in certain stuff. You don't wanna act like it's your place

just because you're there. Yeah, for sure. You know, if you're not from there, I feel like. Yeah, for sure. That's how I feel sometimes. I seen, is Jelly Roll, is he putting in one? Is he? Oh yeah, that's what I did hear.

Is Jelly Roll putting in a bar? Let's look, pull it up. Jelly, Laney got hers. Morgan, oh yeah, I haven't been to Morgan's yet. I haven't been to Morgan's either. When did my episode just went? Good Not National. Five story building. God.

I feel like they're not just like, they're just like seeing how many stories they can go up. Shout out Jelly, man, that's awesome. Barge Marquisine will be yellow and black, including a skull wearing a crown of Nashville skyline. Oh, that's kind of cool, man. Oh yeah, that's like his emblem. Yeah, shout out, Jelly.

That's awesome, man. It is cool, dude. What a guy. Dude, your impression of Jelly, whenever he is, is you and... Yeah. I want to... If you ever...

If you've ever been... If you've ever fallen asleep in a fucking UPS van, if you were raised in the back of an Oscar Mayer Wiener vehicle. If you've ever gotten head lice from bad head, if you've ever popped a pimple on the back of a long haul truck, if you've ever given head in the front seat of a Peterbilt, if you've ever had your legs fall asleep on the shitter of a love's gas station toilet, you could win an Emmy.

Motherfucker's like, what is happening? Dude, by the way, Jelly, Jelly, Jelly gives the best hugs in the world, bro. Every time he sees you, like he just like picks you up Jilly man, this is oh man Yeah, if you're having a shitty day get a hug from jelly roll, bro turns that motherfucker right around He they should have a hug center. They should have that should be a machine That's what we need to tell them. Hey instead of all the other good that you're doing around the world. You need a hug station Yeah, give out free hugs, bro. Oh, man station, bro. Give out free hugs, bro. Oh man.

It's $1 hugs, dude. Jelly's $1 hugs, dude. Or you can pay $2 and get the little bit more of a hug. You know what I'm saying? And then it's heated. The second hug is heated, dude. God damn, brother. Yeah, there's something about Jelly. He just is, um, there's something about him. He's just like a conduit, you know, for, I feel like for love really, the guy just. It's like his whole aura, his whole presence, everything about him is just, man, it'll, it'll turn a bad day around for sure. It really will. He really is grateful, man. He's grateful. He's fun to watch. His story's been cool, man. He's got a really cool story.

Yeah. Yeah, it's great, dude. And yeah, you guys are gonna be touring for how long, most of next year or what? Yeah, we're doing a bunch of festivals and stuff. And then hopefully getting a tour in towards the end of the year, maybe. Planning on a new record, so.

We'll get that out, get a new tour going, all the goods. Any new songwriters you want to work with or anything like that or what's that look like? One night I called you and Ernest working together. Yeah me and Ernest were out and I think we were out in El Paso. Y'all were fucking, he said he saw an alien or something, could have been high. Yeah there's no telling what. Don't fucking pay Odie or anything else out there. But yeah man I mean we I've started co-writing with a lot of people, man. And this last record was the first time that I'd done it.

So yeah, man, I think it's kind of, just kind of opened up brand new ideas and stuff, man. Just trying to, you know, do what's best for us. Has it been hard for you to evolve? Like, is that a tough thing to change to do as an artist? To like, think, okay, I'm gonna co-write or I'm not or is that do you like have certain like kind of rules for yourself and then those change or do you not have any rules for yourself? It was at first to start with the co-writers because I've wrote you know my first four records were completely just me

and then sort of getting to co-writing was kind of a hard ordeal. And then now I've accepted a lot more. I feel like it's easier on me, especially with the headspace I'm in and so much that's going on. It helps to have other people's ideas, you know, outside looking in. So, yeah, man, it's been a lot of fun. Like I said, with Gabe Simon and all those bad-ass artists around here, man, it's been a lot of fun. Like I said, with Gabe Simon and all those badass, all these badass artists around here, man. I met him with Dermot Kennedy, I think. Bring a picture of him up.

I think they were writing together. Probably. Gabe Simon. He worked with Noah Khan and a couple other. Oh, Gabe. I don't think that's him. All right. That's Gabe. No, no, that's him. Sorry, sorry. Oh, Gabe. I don't think that's him. All right. Not Gabe.

No, no, that's him. Sorry, sorry. That is Gabe. That is another guy that I met, but I would like to meet him sometime. Small world, I look forward to meeting Gabe. He's a great dude, man. No, this is, okay, now I feel like I need it,

but that's okay. It was a different Gabe that I believe played with Dermot Kennedy over there. We went to the Bluebird over there and watched him play. Yeah, well, I just think that's interesting because yeah, it's like, I always wanna do things on my own, right? And I was like, oh, I'll do it on my own.

But then things kinda change. You're like, I can't do it all on my own. And so then I'm like, now I have to evolve a little bit. Yeah, for sure. I think, and I've always been like, I hate to ask people for help on anything. anything like that's just how I'm wired. But sometimes, you know, I mean it uh You kind of got to push your pride aside and say hell with it. Yeah Yeah, and then that's the times when you really kind of things you get better, you know, honestly, yeah

Yeah, usually when I end up including other people and then I'm not doing anything alone. I think that's a thing That's that's a bummer. So as I think about like, it's not like, I think sometimes I would like to get married, you know, or something. I said that, but I think it's because otherwise you do stuff and you don't have anybody to tell about it. Yeah. Yeah.

You're like, oh, I just, this was fun, but it was by myself. Yeah. Like, well, shit dude. And then your wife, one day your wife or whatever is gonna be like shut up Yeah, I wasn't there. Please stop telling me about this. Yeah, I wasn't there dude um I Think that's good man. I think we've had a nice chat. Oh, yeah, that was awesome. Co congratulations, dude Yeah, we look forward to just hearing more music and just watching your journey man. Yeah, it's fucking tough to grow up, dude

Don't do all don't don't do it all overnight, dude. Yeah, not all overnight. Yeah, we'll just keep easing into it. Okay. Amen, new Christmas album out now and his album, Nine Lives. Thanks again, Ko, have a good one, man. Appreciate it, Leo.

Yeah, Merry Christmas. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little