This Past Weekend - E560 Antonio Brown

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Starting point is 00:00:31 former NFL wide receiver or pro bowler maybe one of the greatest NFL receivers of all time. He played for the Pittsburgh Steelers the New England Patriots briefly for the Buccaneers and possibly for the Raiders. Since then he found himself in multiple endeavors like his prestigious Cracker of the Day awards where he gives out awards to whites and honkies and others. I had a good time getting to know him. He is very unique today's guest is the ctesp in bad boy Mr.. Antonio Brown Like damn get off my DG.

Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah people on it? Oh, I didn't see them but I believe you. Yeah, they might. They got a lot of lurkers around here. A lot of lurkies. Yo, I like this haircut though. What is that, a mullet? You do?

Starting point is 00:01:37 Let me think of how they call it. I'm trying to think of the term for it. That shit is swaggy though. I ain't going to lie. I think it's, yeah, some people call it that I never I was a rat I know your hat say rat tail notice rat king baby rat king, but I think baby is just Are we on right now? We live no we can wait. I'm live. I'm ready come on We in this we on we fucking here though some people call it a mullet

Starting point is 00:02:01 I think it's just as is man you want want to go shades today? We can do them What do we got? We go wait to put them on whatever whenever you we got a step into the shade time All right, put like a shame. I need a pair though Bring my gosh shades you go see what we got you got some of those Yeah, put those shit on Alright, yeah gas station movie theaters 7-eleven 7-12 welcome. Ha, let's go. We taking it to the next level in these bitches. We going to the movie theaters. We gotta go 3D.

Starting point is 00:02:29 All right, we going 3D out the gate, boy. Right to the movies. Woo. I'm with TV, baby. Good to see you today, man. Good to see you, TV. My movie theater, why they don't call you TV? They always say Thielvarn, they don't just you TV? They always say Theo Varn.

Starting point is 00:02:45 They don't just say TV. I'm trying to think of who, if some people says TV or not. Some people might say it, but I don't know. It's a good question. Come on, man. Your nickname should be Television. Yeah, listen, I'm trying to think of what a good nickname for me would be.

Starting point is 00:03:00 What's your nickname, AB? Go Diva, Good Dick, B. Go Diva. Good Dick. Mr. Catchemall. You never heard of Ash Catchem? Ash Catcher? Ash Catchem. Uh-uh. He catch Pokemons.

Starting point is 00:03:14 He does? But his slam was Catchemall. And it's an Asian guy? Yeah, Asian guy, yeah. Oh, they love to get out there and catch them drawings, you know, animations. They should have an Asian, like a

Starting point is 00:03:30 Asian Pokemon and catch them all. Championships. Yeah, that'd be cool. I don't see, that's something I would love to witness more of. AB, good to see you, man. Thank you, man, how you doing?

Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm alive, man. You know, it. How you doing? I'm alive, man. You know, it's a lot of pressure out there. Facts. The trenches are getting fucking tight. Real tight. It's, ugh. Shit getting sticky. It's getting, ugh.

Starting point is 00:03:54 Sticky. Bro, somehow I have to leave my shoes and just walk off in my socks, bro, because. God, too. Gotta leave your footprint and we out, bro. Pull an AB, bro. Just speed out, bro. Fuck it. That's. Just be our bro fucking that's it, huh? Yeah, that's it bro. That must have been the best day whenever you quit your job

Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, that was the best because I think there's a part of that bro where everybody could feel cuz everybody wants to take their shirt Off and walk out there take that moment right? But some people can't buy FedEx by fucking what's like another good company by PS UPS Target any yeah It's always good man Well, you can walk out on your own freedom and make the moves that you believe in you know Cuz and life life is already written for everyone if you want to be a football player You know if you want high school you got to pass the house. You got to have the right grades for the SAT.

Starting point is 00:04:45 It's a certain requirements that they lay out for you got to, for what you got to be to be that. Yeah. In my life, you got to lay out what you want to be within yourself. And most of the time, you know, the most important thing is to be in tune with God. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah. Cause I guess as a football player, the path is kind of there. It's like, you got to do this. You got to be. Everything lined up for you. Right. In my life, you gotta create your own life, man. You gotta have the freedom and the balls to choose

Starting point is 00:05:10 what you want. Football don't last forever, you know. It's injuries. There's a lot of things that go into it. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, damn, y'all got them. We got the honey pack. Y'all got them backwoods, huh?

Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah, I brought some Zy. Yo, I know you. You can't smoke it man. I'll watch you I bet yeah, I fucking want to smoke this shit. This is like therapy You know as a black man, they always want to fuck me over who does backwards how many's in there? They put five in there. Yeah, why you didn't they shorten you they always shortest. Oh, I have one on the bench Oh damn Oh, you got one on the bitch. Oh Damn And what's in there that reminds me of poppy steak. They bring that steak out to you been there Of course, that's what all the girls like to go poppy steak, huh? Yeah, they like that beef at poppies

Starting point is 00:05:58 Dang that's when everybody comes running you shake that I like you shake that eight ball at a party That's when everybody comes running you shake that I like you shake that eight ball at a party Well, you have them coke ghosts. They show up like they've been dead, but they show they hear that eight ball shaking it Dude I owe there's poppy steak right there. That's what they pull up. That's the movie steak. They're grilling that meat right there Yeah, they're going crazy. I mean came in a lunchable Grilling that meat right there. Yeah, they're going crazy. I mean came in a lunchable But that's a rich ass lunchable Rich ass lunchable right there in the hot pocket, dude My mom we used to put silver or she would fucking me she put silver in a lunchbox nothing in that bitch Nothing What the fuck you just eating? Nothing bro! Stay hungry huh?

Starting point is 00:06:46 Keep going! You in the trenches! My mom had a good sense of humor she was like, haha I love ya! So the note was nice but it still I would have preferred some proteins or something in there

Starting point is 00:07:02 But yeah, what you smoking backwoods? Yeah I smoke backwoods I got my what you smoking backwoods? Yeah, I smoke backwoods. I got my nephew some good backwoods clothing for- Oh yeah, they do come out with some clothes. Christmas last year. Sweats and hoodies, right? Yes. He's a backwood guy?

Starting point is 00:07:15 He's a, I think he's nine. I don't know if he is or not. He's still pretty young. He's a Roblox guy. Yeah, okay. But if they did a Roblox backwood collab, he'd be on it. That's him right there max in the middle Oh, yeah, handsome kid. Yeah, he's pretty good. He got a good hairline on him. No kids swaggy. Yeah, I don't look at him Where you from there? You from New Orleans? I'm from outside of Louisiana. I'm outside of New Orleans

Starting point is 00:07:38 Something if we had any probe athletes that came out of our area Yeah, one of my baby mom said he went to they came from the same spot You really yeah, you know, I got a baby mom collection I got I think I got enough is in the back with maybe five. Oh, wow. That's you got a pack You got a starter pack. I got a yeah, I woke up a sour patch Where's my starter pack? my starter pack. Somebody say you're not a real black father to you. You've had three kids.

Starting point is 00:08:08 Is that true or not? Like in the black community? That's what I heard. No, I think you ain't a black father till you get on child support. Because then you know like what it takes to be a black father. I think my dad was on child support years and years. I think it's just like in a black community, I feel like the government is taking our woman. It's like, yo, if you grew up in the inner city community,

Starting point is 00:08:31 you had a kid with a woman, it's like, if you're gonna go out of way and try to make some of yourself, the government gonna take your spouse because now they tell the spouse, yo, you're gonna be in section eight, you're gonna get free food, food stamps. The government just took took my mom

Starting point is 00:08:45 Now they took my mom now. My dad can't even come back to the house So it's like why cuz if he comes back then she loses the the benefits. So it's like exactly So it's like the government really just took your bitch So as a black father is like man the experience that you really you know I mean to be a black dad and in all seriousness It's like really bad because you have a kid and you're trying to go out and make some of yourself. And these women, the government come in and take it right out,

Starting point is 00:09:11 because it's like, yo, it's hard to be a dad. My dad had me when he was in college at Louisiana Tech. Oh, he went to Louisiana Tech? Yeah, my dad was. Up in Ruston, huh? Yeah, right around you, right around you. Yeah, was he playing ball up there or no? Of course, my dad was touchdown Eddie Brown, like the greatest receiver all the time. Bring him up. I'm going to Louisiana Tech. Yeah, I've been rusting. Huh? Yeah, right right you right right? Yeah, was he playing ball up there?

Starting point is 00:09:25 No, my dad was touchdown Eddie Brown like a Bring him up. I'm gonna see a picture of him man touchdown Eddie Brown pull up the Louisiana Tech There you go right Eddie bro. If you need him, he's in the end zone. That's where you gonna have to pull him up They call him touchdown. He got like 300 Tuddy Yo, he's like the number one arena league football player all time really did he play um and boys you where do you play arena? At he played at Albany fibers the team I just bought and I realized they don't want us to own shit either, bro I bought the team they was kicking me off the field. I think I just got to move out of America What you think the TV? I'm trying to think where we would kid you could because you would be considered an export at that point

Starting point is 00:10:04 Yes, so that's a trade agreement. We'd have to get with another continent. I would guess I'm trying to think where we would could you could because you would be considered an export at that point yes So that's a trade agreement. We'd have to get with another continent. I would guess I'm trying to know who we could get for you Who could we get on the international market? That's a good Trade a B for that's all saying what the market value for this shit. Yeah, what's the uh? What's the pussy rate on that? Yeah, what's the exchange rate on the NAS dick? You know, what's the exchange rate on the AB if we put you out there?

Starting point is 00:10:33 For real, I be feeling like a cow or a dog. Like these bitches, Theo, these bitches want to milk me like a cow. Who you talking about when you say them? People in general, people that's around you that know your position. like Theo, you real successful now. Like, do people just take photos of you everywhere or do people expect more out of you?

Starting point is 00:10:52 Like if you was going to a restaurant with your buddies, like who covering the tab? Yeah, I think I would like to cover it most of the time just because I know that I have the ability to cover it without having to worry about it as much, maybe, you know, the next day or week. But sometimes, yeah. You don't feel like a cow? I feel like a cow, but I feel like I'm my own shepherd at the same time. You're your own cow, I like that.

Starting point is 00:11:18 You gotta be your own shepherd, but you don't want people to treat you like a cow. You don't want people to treat you like a cow. You don't want people to treat you like a cow. Yeah, no, I think, no, I don't, I think, what makes me kind of uncomfortable, yeah, sometimes if people are recording you for no reason, that's weird. Exactly. But that's weird. But that's the new world we live in, everyone wanna get that film of you just that, so they can show somebody later or just feel like they,

Starting point is 00:11:44 they cool by association. And it's like, yo boy, I didn't want you to record me right now. I'm relaxing. Yeah, we don't even. You don't need cameras right now. Dude, I saw one one time, it was me just walking somewhere, dude. And I'm not the best walker or whatever, you know? How you walk? You got a nice scroll?

Starting point is 00:11:59 Are you walking like, what you emphasizing when you walking with a scrut TV? I say chest up. Yes. Eyes up. Yeah. You on your toes or your heels? I'm right in the middle, baby.

Starting point is 00:12:10 You know what I'm saying? I'm that middle dog. You won't catch me on the front or the back, dog. Like that, just somewhere in the middle. I'll see you at the 50 yard line. That's where I'm at, bro. Right between the legs. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:21 Right in the middle. Yeah. I'm that fulcrum, baby. I'm just, cause you don't know if the Lord's getting me or the devil's getting me, I'm right there. I'm on that tightrope, that's how I walk. I like that. I'm on that fucking tightrope, boy.

Starting point is 00:12:32 You don't know if I'm fucking, you don't know what I'm doing. I like that. But yeah, I like to be, I walk, let me see. Yeah, I kind of push my, like, forward. I move, like, I'm moving forward. Like a demon. Wow.

Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, like a pretty nice demon though. Like that nice ass. I like that. Yeah, like that nice. Superhero vibes. Like that nice ass demon. Yeah, but sometimes, yeah, I saw a video one time and it was like, damn, this dude ugly, bro.

Starting point is 00:13:01 That was a fucking video. That was the caption. There was hate on you? Now when somebody call you ugly, that. That was a fucking video. That was the caption. There was hate on you? No, when somebody call you ugly, that mean you swaggy. That's an excuse for it. They didn't mean it like that. I think they didn't mean it like that. Oh, I like your attitude.

Starting point is 00:13:13 When people call you ugly, that mean you swaggy. Like, look at this ugly motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. That mean you look a fly, bro. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's a good attitude. You right, bro.

Starting point is 00:13:24 We ugly as fuck son Ugly motherfuckers Ugly ass Look at these pieces of shit That's a good attitude man, you're right I am ugly motherfuckers And watch my ugly ass get some shit done Yeah watch this ugly motherfucker go to work Yeah yeah yeah right

Starting point is 00:13:44 That's a good attitude. Life is about attitude, you know why? It really is. People like to create narratives, create stories. They don't really care how people feel. They don't care how your family react. They keep us at a certain level. I don't think that's just the community.

Starting point is 00:13:57 Because, bro, I grew up in Miami, Florida, Liberty City. We had a big drug game, if you never heard about it, called John Doe. You're Michael Irvin, huh? Yeah, but Michael Irvin from like, Michael Irvin just played football in Miami. I don't know if he grew up in Liberty City. I think he grew up in Broward, so I don't really know what his lifestyle was, but I know I grew up on 58 Terrace and 17th Avenue in the heart of Liberty City. Wow. You know what I'm saying? In the culture of a black community, because I know I love to see you talk

Starting point is 00:14:24 about black people, black community, because I feel I love to see you talk about black people, black community, because I feel like you're from New Orleans, so you've been around a lot of black people your whole life. But being in Liberty City is not like the country, because I know New Orleans is like country, little country is not. It's like a mix. Louisiana is a mix of like,

Starting point is 00:14:39 Country, city. It's a mix of country, light city. Exactly, but in Liberty City, yo, we have like the John Doe boys is like the police of the neighborhood. Okay. So like these guys, like you pull them up, yo, pull up John Doe. We bass and blow. You're pulling up shitty, watch, trying to watch later.

Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, I'm trying to show, I'm trying to educate you guys about the black community, where we come from. Look up the guy from John Doe, his name Traven Bubba. Just look up Miami, John Doe. Put it on, these motherfuckers watching Mythbusters on this bitch, put something on, man. Put it on, Jack. John Doe right there.

Starting point is 00:15:16 Death penalty case of John Doe gang leader in peril as judge disqualified. Liberty City. You see that? In the 1990s. In the 1990s in a... Okay. In Liberty City. So when you do the homework, the black community is ran by a John Doe group gang.

Starting point is 00:15:32 They just make money in our neighborhoods. You see what I'm saying? So... They don't even live there. No, they live there. Oh, they do? They live on the next block on 58th Street, yes. Travis' family had a whole crowd. This guy had a whole, it's like they was running a business in the inner city that wasn't the right business,

Starting point is 00:15:53 but they showed the inner city people hope, like the good cars that came by. When we had football games, they came and supported. Like, you guys playing against them? Oh yeah, we got money jerseys. They gave us hope. Nice shoes, yeah. Nice opportunities to make us look forward for the great things. Yeah, but these environments that was called what? Section 8. You ever heard of section 8?

Starting point is 00:16:13 Oh, yeah. Section 8. So these type of environments was given to who? Our moms. Most of the people that's living in the inner city is single moms that's been provided the house house friend, the government, to put us in these places with low income people. And so we had the 106 and park, the Look At TV, we had the John Doe guys that come over and give us hope about, you know what I'm saying? They was like our neighborhood heroes

Starting point is 00:16:38 because we didn't see, people didn't come to Liberty City and- Have regular lives, kind of like? Nah, they didn't. It wasn't like a lot of dads They were like doctors and shit like that. I wasn't a lot of dad presence period because it's section 8 Your dad can't even come around these areas So these areas are outsourced by the government because now if your dad come in play your mom

Starting point is 00:16:58 They don't get the food stem card to buy you food So these guys was like our heroes that gave us hope in those situations, right? You know, I mean, yeah now I see that I never really thought about that concept before that the day I couldn't come back because your dad come Your dad come your mama don't get the section 8 She don't get the free lunch the free housing what women who have a lot of kids and a lot of stress and a lot of To dudes with a lot, you know, I mean, yeah, I didn't thought about it like that I mean well in our neighbor in our in our area a lot of you know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't thought about it like that. You know what I mean? Well, in our neighborhood, in our area, a lot of the black girls got, they all got

Starting point is 00:17:30 pregnant, you know, over the summertime after seventh grade. Because white people, I love my white people, they put their kids on birth control at 16. They already got a chip in them that's blocking it. That's probably cause the other black moms, they already had a kid probably early. So blocking it. That's probably cause the other black moms, they already had a kid probably early. So if you, whatever your family or your mom,

Starting point is 00:17:49 whatever you grew up in that situation, to you that would come the normalcy. You know what I mean? So if a, the percentage of black women going to college is pretty low. So if you're in a neighborhood where you, it's a fast neighborhood and people growing up fast and they doing stuff fast

Starting point is 00:18:05 you're probably I mean less chance likely chance of you definitely getting pregnant because yeah, I'll formel, you know black dick is king Yeah, I haven't seen it. Yeah, I don't see I yeah, I mean, I've seen something online I don't need to see any right now. You know, I'm good. I hope these shades blackout black I hope these shades block out black Today bro the rate of fucking yo in the Liberty City, they see a fine girl They're like yo TV you didn't nothing that no you should not in that that's what the black culture are Pre-eminent in Liberty City. It's a so then I have to go over and try to um Get some sex with the lady. I mean no no, they telling you did you nut in that.

Starting point is 00:18:45 Like if you was from Liberty City and you brought a hot girl, they would have been like, yo, TV, you ain't nut in that. They give you the wrong guidance at an early age. Imagine, you in the neighborhood. They didn't say, hey, TV, you didn't take that lady on a nice date? No, they'll tell you take her on a date.

Starting point is 00:19:01 They're just gonna say bust a nut in her. Oh, wow. What up? Dude, the cracker of the year this year was um Shane Gillis, man. Congratulations, dude. Yeah, Shane Gillis is amazing, man. The cracker of the year was Donald Trump. Oh, he was cracker of the year. Yeah, man. He overcame so much and he kept his class. He kept his coolness. Imagine, he almost got killed right running for president. Yeah. Almost got took down by people trying to take him to jail

Starting point is 00:19:26 You never really see a cracker really go through this type of intensity of his life and the government trying to take you down It's only like a nigga thing to be real, but he handled it with such class Did that give him more respect of course? You see how many black people change the tide and switch for him you see steven a smith apologize like a bitch now yeah he fell on his knees too everybody exactly because he had a certain showed it because trump showed that he could be a nigga and handle it with class it's like black people go through that shit all the time look at my boy young thug just fucking with the jail for some shit he made up some shit was made up like he you know i mean free young

Starting point is 00:20:04 thug free quavo too is he locked up no these guys out Quavo young thugs out. Oh good free young dirt free young dirt What'd he do or what didn't he do? I mean what they say do It's a bunch of he say she say I don't know the fact I know the facts. Don't ask me, Jack. Don't ask me, I got nothing to do with it. I got nothing to do with it. You did? But no, that's a big thing that happened for Trump

Starting point is 00:20:30 was they put him on all of those charges, right? He was in court every week. And then they tried to shoot him. They tried to kill him. And so that's, if anything, if any group could probably relate to some of that type of energy, black community. They trying to kill us every day. You know about Ma Luther King, you seen MC Hub It's a whole list of- Yo pull up the list

Starting point is 00:20:48 of black guys that was elite who just died out the blue. Maybe it was, what do they call it when they kill you out the blue and they don't even know? Oh, assassination or whatever? No, that's when they just kill you. Oh, they dis- What they call it when they just kill you and they just be like, oh it was a, you know what it's called.

Starting point is 00:21:06 Oh, accident? Assassinate? Nope, we just tried that one. Conspiracy? Exactly, it was a kapusi. Yep. Kapusi, yeah. It's like, they think black people is like the new vagina, like the designer vagina.

Starting point is 00:21:20 We're going to keep using them. Keep fucking them. No, you're going to keep fucking them. Like what happened to Kobe Brown? Like I never see no one other airplane going down Never one when other time has it happened with a chopper just went off like that. Yeah, and it was for Kobe Bryant, though I Think Donald Trump just did a big thing yesterday Release the conspiracy information for the King family

Starting point is 00:21:43 Martin Luther King is hiding conspiracy amongst people of my kind of people that's being fucked over? Well why, first of all, if we live in a country where it's free, where the communication. Yeah, why didn't his family get the condolences to know what happened? Why didn't we all just get the truth? You know what I'm saying? Why the files have to be, why is there a secret file? Because black guys are like designer vaginas. They just get fucked.

Starting point is 00:22:07 I mean, that go to list. Yo, you got the list? Black lensey aga, bruh. Yeah, it's like they just fucking you over. Well, did you see some of the stuff I've seen is that people are, they're trying to accuse him of being a homosexual. Of course, that's what happened with every black man.

Starting point is 00:22:20 They just try to lure you. They try to throw him under the- Throw you under, just throw your fucking shit that you built up like it don't even matter. Under the L-G-B-U-S. Dude, dude, bro, Martin Luther King was in a hotel getting pussy before they shot him. I believe he was.

Starting point is 00:22:35 Come on, man, you see how he look. You think Dr. King is not getting pussy? Oh, yeah, I would definitely, I could see him definitely getting some. But that's what they do, They change the narrative on God's well They want to bring they wanted to they want why they do that though. It could be a character assassination Nah, yes, it's always a character assassination when you black with his they always gonna make it seem like you just Too aggressive or too flamboyant, you know when they say who when they when you say they are does it mean like

Starting point is 00:23:01 Are you talking the FBI to CIA? Are you trying to know, to CIA? Are you talking- I don't know who is they. Right. They is a word that you just try to figure out who is they. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when I say they, I'm not talking about

Starting point is 00:23:12 no particular people. It may be, but it's definitely some people in power. I don't know who they is. They is a mystical word. That's why it's called compussy. Conspiracy, compussy. Okay. Because we don't know who the guy who's doing the fucking,

Starting point is 00:23:25 but we know we getting fucked! Right. Right, T.V.? Oh, if I wake up with cum on my shoulder, bruh, something must have happened. Bruh, I'm having wet dreams, it's come all over my fucking self. Something must have happened, bruh.

Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah, bruh. Y'all wish I was going to know what's going on. What's going on, man? What the fuck is going on? Don't ask me, bruh. If you ask me, I don't know. I got nothing to do with it. My name Bennett.

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Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, and some of the ways to do that is humor. I agree. Humor, right? You a funny motherfucker. Well, thanks, man. You are too, dude. Thank you, bro. You definitely, you went about it some unique ways, too. That's like your own thing. I think you're really unique. Thank you, brother.

Starting point is 00:27:01 Did you always have a desire to be like... I know this is it it's a kind of a strange question But did you always have a desire to be unique or to be different like there's I be myself man. I feel like in life It's free to be who you are Well, were you always like that as much or were you more of like was there a point where you're like, you know what? I'm just gonna do things how I want to do them now. Nah, you gotta always respect authority. You know what I'm saying? In life, you gotta know your position and respect authority.

Starting point is 00:27:30 You can't really, in life you need people. You can't really do nothing by yourself. Like even playing football is like, yo, I'm going against my man, but I got 10 more men helping me out in order to make this easier. So it's like, in life you need a team. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:27:45 You can never do nothing just by yourself. And there's always a collective of people that's there, you know, in your corner that's pre-eminating your highest self. So to me, I just always felt like, yo, I grew up in Liberty City. My dad was a great football player, but my dad endured a lot of adversity through his family,

Starting point is 00:28:06 you know what I'm saying? We're just growing up in the 40s with my grandma, my grandma having to work a job and my dad having to take sports for like a job early, you know what I'm saying? Right, so was it even something you think he wanted? Because I feel like this, and I wonder there's a lot of young black men, right? Young black women that do sports that don't even really want to be doing them but it's a means to an end because at some point it was kind of the only choice. I think there's more choices now, you know, and that's just my outsider judgment. I'm not saying that I know that but it seems like...

Starting point is 00:28:36 You do know that. That's a valid opportunity because think about it. You're growing up in Liberty City, bro. I'm growing up where it's like drug selling and dope dealers killing right in this neighborhood. Guys that's going to prison for life right in this neighborhood. So it's like you either become a part of that or you make a commitment right there and you're within yourself to be like, yo, I'm not going to be that. I'm going to do this. And that preeminates the attitude and that individualistic.

Starting point is 00:29:03 I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? So right there you're creating some sense of individualism just by not going with the mainstream that is in those types of neighborhoods to have a little bit more drugs and violence going on. Exactly, because you can either be a part of it because you've seen it,

Starting point is 00:29:19 or you can commit to be the difference. You know what I'm saying? But do the people in the neighborhood that are committed to the more hectic lifestyle and the more trench behavior, do they look down upon guys who are trying to get out? They respect it, man. Those guys that come to me and be like,

Starting point is 00:29:33 yo, don't do what we do, man. Ain't got money, man. I got your jerseys this week, man. We had the game, two touchdowns. So they're giving me incentives. Like, yo, keep doing this. Because I feel like guys in the city, when they get accustomed to the gritty,

Starting point is 00:29:47 it's just because they know it's like, man, ain't no other way for us. That's how my uncle grew up. My uncle just always felt like, man, I ain't working for nobody. I ain't, because he felt like he was already in the system. But I just felt like, man, I wasn't gonna let the system deteriorate me

Starting point is 00:30:02 from going after who I wanted to be. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like a lot of women that's in the black communities and males, they get accustomed with the trauma and the stuff. They almost get addicted to it. The trauma and everything because your whole family here. You see your mom like, damn, this is what my mom went through and turned into. So sometimes I feel like you feel like, man,

Starting point is 00:30:21 it's a part of my family now to just be here. But to me, I had the attitude like, man, I ain't gonna let my situation now affect what I could be and what I could do because in this situation right here, I could make it better. And then once there's enough better avenues, other, the younger yous coming up start to see better opportunities. Better opportunities. Oh, I remember, yeah, when I was growing growing up the black kids in my area they didn't

Starting point is 00:30:46 have we had like the best job you could have it felt like was a school teacher right we had a couple of black female school teachers we had an assistant principal Raleigh Coleman shout out RIP and I used to sleep in the trunk of his car at lunch a little bit he used to get catch him a little break catch him a little bit. He used to catch him a little break, catch him a little nap. Yo, Wendy. He used to look, bro, look, one time I was over by the fence. I saw him getting in that bitch.

Starting point is 00:31:10 I was like, damn, what's Raleigh doing? And he looked at me like this. I'm telling nobody. I'm telling nobody, I'm getting it. He was catching a little nap, yeah. But they didn't have like a lot, like I remember, dude, it wasn't until a few years ago, I went to a doctor for the first time. That was a black guy

Starting point is 00:31:25 That's why I see you never I've never seen and I'd never thought that I never seen it before I've seen black doctors on television I'd seen but you know, and I I'd probably met black doctors, but I'd never been into the room You're like, okay You're gonna go meet with the doctor and you get in there and it's a black guy like damn is he gonna Know what's wrong with me? You know, I just my brain didn't Comfortability with it. Yeah, it was just different. So then I started to think, well,

Starting point is 00:31:46 I wonder what it was like for black people always going to white doctors and then be like, does this doctor care about like, just even just the thought in your head, right? Yeah, so that was just, it's definitely interesting. I think you never really see people. I feel like you come accustomed to, you know what I'm saying, like,

Starting point is 00:32:04 it don't matter what color the person is in position. You know what I'm saying? I feel like black people grew up where it was so rough. It's like you gotta have a lot of love in your heart to not even get into that. Yeah, to just turn demon. It's like, yo, you gotta have, you know what I'm saying? So black people do got a lot of love in their heart

Starting point is 00:32:20 because you go through the most. It's like, yo, I can't even be a good football player without somebody saying something negative. And it's like, I guess for a black person, we're used to that. We're used to people assassinating our character or putting pressure on us to turn loyal to get more diamonds out of us

Starting point is 00:32:35 because that's how we was built. Yeah, it's in the history, man. Damn. Well, yeah, and I think I always, I always... Like, you fucked some black people before, right? Well, let me think about some of this. I, yeah, I definitely... Okay, did you have an addiction for Dizana Vajana? I haven't been to the addiction yet, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:01 This was an old one. Not an addiction. Everybody get pussy. You know about testosterone. Yes, sir Okay, do you ever get like you got no pussy and you just feel like you're moved off. Oh, yeah, boy Okay, then so you were man you get it. I'm not saying you think that I'm saying you need sex because a part of a human body That's normal exactly. That's an or mercy. You know, I mean, oh, yeah, buddy. I know what you mean That's normal. Man. No behavior. Let me think about this. You know, there was I know what you mean. That's normal, man, that's normal behavior.

Starting point is 00:33:25 Let me think about this, you know there was, I definitely, I envied black culture sometimes. I mean, a lot of people envy black culture because black culture is where like people take a product to make it cool, right? So a lot of times a company will come out with a product nowadays, they attach a black artist to it or put it through the black community in some way

Starting point is 00:33:41 and then it makes it cool, right? Does that make sense to you? Of course, because black people- I don't wanna say I'm accusing of that or anything. I'm just saying that that's what I it cool right does that make sense to you of course because I don't want to say I'm accused into that or anything I'm just saying that that's what I've heard does that make sense to you that's pretty much a fact of the world is like name some things that's black that you need in your life coffee I know every oh yeah coffee you got oil what else you like that's black? Let me just ask you some questions. Ooh, black olives. All right, so let me just ask you some questions.

Starting point is 00:34:07 Yeah, give me some black olives. You feel me? Fuck them green olives, bruh. If you was, like, if you was to go get a haircut, if you was to go get a haircut, or if you were to call a handyman, what's some of the, like, Spanish women clean the house for me, Mexican people clean up real well, you know what I mean? Like, what's some stuff you use black people for? Let me think. Spanish women clean the house for me, Mexican people clean up real well. You know what I mean? What's some stuff you use black people for?

Starting point is 00:34:26 Let me think. Feel good music, entertainment. So black people set the culture for like- Artistic culture. Artistic culture for how you feel, how you dancing, how you, I mean, the value of jewelry. You know what I mean? Yeah, a lot of culture is kind of set by the- Coming through the black culture.

Starting point is 00:34:48 Let me think, duh. Let me think of the word I'm looking for. Give me one second here. A lot of... Black people, I think, add jazz to things, right? And that could be to music, or it could be- Black people been getting robbed for everything. What's the artist who was a big artist

Starting point is 00:35:04 who just copied everybody? Bruno Mars or whatever? Nah, I don't know a Bruno copy. Oh, copied? I didn't hear that. It was a rock star guy who just copied every black guy song. Big famous guy, man. You talking about Elvis copying off Chuck Berry?

Starting point is 00:35:15 Elvis. All right, thank you. Exactly. Robbed the black culture of all their songs and people just let him go with it. Did he? Bring it up. Did Elvis rob the black folks? Hey, put that up. Elvis fucked us over. Damn us over damn really well his manager was a dog man I'm not saying he

Starting point is 00:35:30 Elvis was fucking gross that was 13 how you think R. Kelly got the artistic to know like what a rock star is you know what I think R. Kelly I think came up with some a little bit of his own shit man yo Elvis was only fucking gross that was teenage asians it was really yo google it so we can educate each other here yeah let's see what's going on of his own shit man. Elvis was the only fucking girls that was teenage ages. Uh uh, really? Yo, Google it so we can educate each other here. Yeah, let's see what's going on man. What did black and- Ray Charles!

Starting point is 00:35:53 That boy stole Ray Charles! Stole him bar for bar! Everybody stole everything from Ray Charles bro, come on dog. You're right, but it's like Elvis was so big. Elvis was so big. Right, you couldn't say hey. You couldn't say no against him You gotta give the credit to the people you take you just can't rob people of their art

Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh, I agree with that. You know, I'm saying you gotta at least get the credits in 1994 Ray Charles sat down for an interview with NBC's Bob Costas and gave scathing critique of Elvis Presley to say that Elvis was So great and so outstanding like he's the king the king of what I know too many artists that are far greater He was doing our kind of music. So he's saying that he's like, he's saying like there was some culture vulture style going on, but does it say that he stole? I'm not saying that he didn't. I've heard this. Pull up the songs that Ray Charles said that he stole that he can show you the bar for bar. Probably on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, I'm just trying to get some truth here because I've heard this too. I don't know if it's true. It might be. It's definitely true. But think about it. If black people ran the country, it'd be true too, because they'll will they people in their way too. So it's not like a knock. It's just a fact.

Starting point is 00:36:52 If you came in up in music culture and you heard about Elvis Presley, because what was Elvis Presley time that he was around? We probably wasn't even around when he was around. 50s or whatever. Exactly. So you got to think back. If R. Kelly came up and these guys are looking up to a guy. Yeah. Oh no. I could easily. Yeah play those songs

Starting point is 00:37:09 right there. Okay. Tim, black rock and roll musicians Elvis Presley stole music from. It was hard for black artists to get their music played on mainstream stations, but that did not stop record label executives and white artists from discovering music from black artists and covering their songs. Elvis was arguably one of the biggest stars to cover songs by black artists while mimicking their mannerisms and vocal inflections. I said the king of what and he got mad at me. I don't think of Elvis like that because I know too many artists that are far greater than Elvis.

Starting point is 00:37:47 I think Elvis was a person who came along at the right time, where he was a white kid that could do rock and roll or rhythm and blues or whatever name you want to call it, and the girls could swoon over him. That coal got in trouble in Alabama when the women swooned over him. Got put out of town. And black people been going out shaking their behind for centuries. What the hell's unusual about them shaking their hips and stuff? And that's all Elvis was doing was copying that.

Starting point is 00:38:14 This is Otis Blackwell. He is the voice and pin behind some of Elvis's biggest hits, such as Don't Be Cruel and All Shook Up. After briefly pursuing a solo career he decided to step behind the scenes and become a songwriter when he discovered how good of a living he can actually make doing that. Yeah I'm not saying I'm just curious, I'm curious about it too man because you always hear this but then I'll never really have any information about it. Because this kind of shit happens all the time in every type of community where in every type of business where

Starting point is 00:38:49 People will see stuff they copy it and they take it there's still lawsuits about this every day It feels like also the laws at the time didn't like the laws protecting against this are stronger now than they were at the time I'm sure and if a black guy walked in a place that he stole my music He'd probably be scared even say that because of the repercussions that would come at him. He was so big for the executives. Back in the day, it was a different time if you just dive into the history and see it wasn't big for a black blues artist. They was cutting you off.

Starting point is 00:39:14 That was what Ray Charles was saying. They was stopping your way for even making means. You know what I'm saying? I could definitely see that. But that's part of being creative. I love Elvis Presley. I wouldn't say it's no knock on Elvis, but I just go back to the theme that we was talking about.

Starting point is 00:39:29 Black people in history been put down. But if a black person ran the world, it'd probably be the same way. They would just do it a different way. They would just do it for the black people. But it's not like a bad thing. It's just what it is. It's what it is. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:39:42 But I could imagine this. Imagine this, man. Imagine you created something really cool, right? Especially music. Of course. Because I think music is so special to people, right? And then somebody stole it, right? And you can't even because of how you're perceived.

Starting point is 00:39:55 But that's black culture. That's what I'm saying. But how you're perceived at that time is special. You couldn't even go in and say, hey, this person stole it. Nobody ain't even gonna represent you. Who you gonna represent you to after that? So you gotta swallow all of that.

Starting point is 00:40:04 So you gotta see your craft, but that's the part of being black, bro. That's the anger that you know you being after your shit. You being raped of your character. You being character assassinated. You being conspired and it's like, you still gotta find the energy to put yourself up.

Starting point is 00:40:22 Fuckin' put your shoes on. Exactly, just like being a football player, like yo boy, don't forget, a football player's a number. Right, it's your number. They're pickin' many of you. Number 84, number 72, number, yeah. It's all a number, so it's like, it's gonna come to an end. You know what I'm sayin', like,

Starting point is 00:40:36 what you want me to leave when I'm hurt, or you want me to leave when they don't want me no more? Okay, so how I'm gonna transition to another job? Right. Are they gonna take, all I could be is a coach thing I can't even show up on time to be a player like bruh if you work for FedEx you get that bitch there quick, bro No, I can't work for FedEx. But I'm just saying bro. That's what I'm saying But that's like an average job like from a guy coming in. You know how fast you can get that bitch there, bro

Starting point is 00:41:01 Less than overnight, bro You know how many hits I took? The A.B. service, bro. You get that thing there, fat, bro. You put a post-swipe on that thing, bro. Imagine how many times I hit the ground. I played football since I was six years old. To like 31, like yo, 27 years, or somebody you waking up, not even thinking the reality.

Starting point is 00:41:19 My life is like, yo, how could I get open on Theo? I'm living this. This is my life, waking up. How am I gonna get open? How am I win? That's not even real life deal. Oh Is it I mean it's a short part of life, right? It's a stick. Yeah, it's not real life It's but it's definitely like not real But it's like I know it's a just a part of your life to get to a position of life where you can live a better life

Starting point is 00:41:40 Right, you know I'm saying cuz how many opportunities you got when you coming out of black neighborhood? Like what you really could do? You either could represent the neighborhood, rapping and doing some stuff. Okay, rapping, maybe civet, like you know, politics. You could be a... Nah, I ain't no black guy coming from a city made of hot stuff. Come on, they got some... What about that dude at the Trump thing the other day?

Starting point is 00:42:02 That was smokes and jokes. The guy at the Trump thing the other day, That was smokes and jokes. That was smokes and jokes. The guy at the Trump thing, do you see him? I see him, pull him up. Let me see what he was repping. Oh, bro, you like it? He was repping? He was Martin Luther X. He was trying to be everybody.

Starting point is 00:42:16 That's what I'm saying. It just looked like a joke. He was trying to be everybody. Yeah, he was the nigga of the day. Oh, he was? Yeah, he definitely was. He's the only black guy doing some shit like that at other type of events.

Starting point is 00:42:30 Oh, damn, well you know what I'm talking about. Exactly, I've been watching. Yeah, yeah, man. That was, yeah, he was doing- That was hilarious. He was doing a lot. Oh damn, that's us right there already. That's us, yeah, I'm putting this on.

Starting point is 00:42:39 And that's, who was that guy right there? That's a real cracker. He's the cracker of the day. Oh, he got it. He got the gingerbread with the black day. Oh, he got it. He got the gingerbread with the black fro. Oh, he look like... Now he's rocking out.

Starting point is 00:42:49 He'll sneak in your bank account. Yo, who is your top five flyest crackers? Because you got to be up there. Oh, I'm not up there, man. Give me your top five. Give me your top five flyest crackers in the world that you know. Wow. That I know or that I've seen or whatever.

Starting point is 00:43:01 That you'll give top five. Alright, straight up. Out the gate, man, my dog. Brian Purvis, bro, who I grew up with, bro. Okay. One OG Wigga kid. Okay. When they used to have him, bro. He used to have a lot of more younger

Starting point is 00:43:13 kind of like Wigga type of kids, you know? Okay. Like, you know what I'm talking about? Bring him up right there. Coming to man wanted, accused of attempted murder and armed robbery. That's my dog right there, Brian Purvis, bro. He wanted right now?

Starting point is 00:43:23 That was on time. Nah, they got him right now. Oh shit. But he'll be back. You can't Brian Purvis, bro. He wanted right now. That was on time. No, they got him right now Oh shit, but he'll be back You can't hold him down, but he was in learning disabled, bro Because they put him in there for wanting to be a but they'd never seen a white kid that wanted to be black Right, they put him in learning disabled, but they do that too So you had people that had real learning disabilities in there fucking knock knock Wilson was in that bitch And then you had Brian Purvis just in there

Starting point is 00:43:47 wearing like a Scottie Pippen jersey and fucking just flexing. Yeah, they're like, nah, we never seen this shit. He must be mentally handicapped. That's what I'm saying. When people don't see something they're used to, they just throw you to the wolves and that shit could create trauma.

Starting point is 00:43:59 Imagine what trauma that created in that kid. Yeah, man. He just wearing them. He trying to flex a Larry Johnson jersey and they put him in there, man. They didn kid. Yeah, man. I made him a gentleman. He's trying to flex a Larry Johnson jersey and they put him in there, man. They didn't understand him, man. So he would be, he's definitely, he's in there, bro. He's goaded, he's locked in.

Starting point is 00:44:13 I respect that. Other beautiful crackers that are out there that are still existing well in the world. Hmm. Let me try to find a good... Travis Kelcey that up there? Nah, he's good, man, but they, there's so much now. Everywhere is getting, it's too much, Kelce.

Starting point is 00:44:30 I'm over Kelce at the moment. So he's not in your cracker top five. He's not in my cracker top five. Yeah, I'ma keep thinking as we go along, I'll name some more. Okay, I like that. Who your niggas of the day? Your top five niggas.

Starting point is 00:44:43 Let's don't put it like that if we can okay, okay, you know Well, uh, let me think some great never ignorant getting goes accomplished. Come on gang gang gang, baby Let me think come on. Well, let's go through some of the criteria. First of all, I the criteria What is a criteria because you have cracker the day? I feel like it's a criteria to become a cracker of the day. You just got a good cracker energy You know, I mean you feeling like like a boss or you doing something, you did something that was, everybody loved their crackers. What's your favorite crackers anyway?

Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. What kind of crackers you eating and watching? What's your favorite snack? I would say just a straight up that saltine that came. Nice. I think it just said crackers on the box right there. There's a cracker of the day right there, young white fella with a joint.

Starting point is 00:45:24 She's holding a butt, there you go. Oh, and there you go. a cracker of the day right there young white holler the joy there you go oh and there you go so you see these are some good crackers out there oh that's Travis yeah no Kravis acting like your guy he got the gun with the Florida swag he was looking at as your boy like he look a little awkward right there but yeah he got that coach oh on him baby he pulling up yeah Trevor Lawrence yeah yeah that's a 20 million dollar quarterback right there really yeah for the Jaguars holding the scrap in Florida looking like he looking Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, yeah. Yeah, that's a $200 million quarterback right there. Is he really? Yeah, for the Jaguars, holding the scrap in Florida. Looking like, you looking like he know Yak.

Starting point is 00:45:49 But you gotta have that in Florida. You looking like he know the sniper game, standing like that. Right? That swag, though, right? You gotta have that in Florida, yeah. That's that Florida swag right there. You gotta have that.

Starting point is 00:45:59 That's the Florida birth certificate, a fucking. Being a Crocker of the Day is just being a Crocker that is. That's showing up. Exemplify confidence, boss-like energy, and that give people that happiness. What do you see when you see Trevor Lawrence posted up with a Florida Gator's top? Looking like a teenager holding the scrap. He's in Florida understanding the culture and the energy of what's going around. I say, you know what?

Starting point is 00:46:21 Let's give him one more year. Give him one more year. That's what I say. You know what I'm saying? Let's re-sign him for another year. That's what I say. Yeah, he's coming back. That's what I say you know what let's give him one more year. Give him one more year. That's what I say You know I'm saying let's resign it for another year. Yeah, that's what I say That's what he gave me. Look at this guy right here. He under major pressure Zayn Gonzalez He got a win the game for these guys. This is the cracker of your type energy. He fixed this hair ain't none of your head It's none of your head Zayn But he got that cracker energy like he's really having that pressure. He understandin this moment

Starting point is 00:46:44 It's a big moment and he's getting his fucking hair fixed. That's crack of the day. That's crack of the day, right? That's it right there. No ER, bro. That's crack. He got the game on the line, and he's going to get this shit done. He's fucking scratching ass right now.

Starting point is 00:47:00 He's fucking fending out the fade. Let me make sure my fade so I don't fade this ball, man. He's like, shit, the pressure on me? All these fucking black guys couldn't win the fucking game? That's a good point, bro. All these dickheads? Every time the white, the kicker goes in, the truth should be all these black guys couldn't win the game.

Starting point is 00:47:17 All these fucking guys couldn't do it? And they trying to act like now it's up to me. And not a pressure on me. And he about to shit bricks. Look at him. Yo, best play. Look, this ain't fixing his fade. One tap. Let's back it up. Let's see how. And he bought this shit bricks. Look at him, yo, best play. Look at Zayn fixing his face, one top. Let's have him back it up,

Starting point is 00:47:27 let's see how many times he fix this shit. He fix this shit like 20 times. Fix your hair. Yo, can we get the count? He fucking, and he's two for two. He's two for two right there. And he's still fucking rubbing his head. He read, yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:41 But he's understanding the moment. He's getting his shit right. Oh, look at him, he went overtime right there. But he's understanding the moment. He's getting his shit right. He went overtime right there. He did overtime at the end. But you gotta look good for your moment too. No, but he look like his ass is tight right now. Look at little Trump Jr. right here. Now what about him?

Starting point is 00:47:55 Now how does the community feel about him? That kid look like he's the next fucking president and fucking assassin. He the young don. Nah, he just look like he's the next fucking president and fucking assassin. He the young don. Nah, he's just like a young Trump. His body language, his face you moving. It's like he got a subtle confidence. He know something we don't know.

Starting point is 00:48:14 He look like one of them alfalfa kids, like just a kid. Okay. Yeah, like he got it figured out. Yeah, that's- I respect, he doesn't put himself out there. He doesn't try to do too much. No, he's a it figured out. Like, yeah. Yeah, that's- I respect that. He doesn't put himself out there. He doesn't try to do too much. No, he's a boss, man.

Starting point is 00:48:27 He's real low-key. He's got the mannerism of like, he already got it figured out. It's like, he's one of those special, beautiful crackers. Like, you go to him when you got a problem. He just make the problem solution. Yeah. Yeah, he changed it. Like right there, he look like he ready to change the tie. He's like he's his Trump son

Starting point is 00:48:47 He's like he's a younger Trump like the amazing thing Trump have done. You know, I got on the shirt today I didn't see that man Yeah, and thank you for telling me give me the shoutouts to I didn't realize that they did that day Yeah at that point after all of the things man ever a lot of people got on Trump's a lot of Convicts inmates people that have ever been accused of crimes a million times that they didn't trust the justice system They all got on his side because they knew Trump understand what it felt like Now he knows what it feels like the bill like a nigga Trump showed the world What it was any free some of my guys did he sniper game? So I thought the code that black, you know, callak? KB. KB Kodak Black. I wish them pills

Starting point is 00:49:29 would free him because he's been seeming like he's been going through it. No listen. Hold on. Let's get this clear right. Anytime a black guy is being judged or misunderstood or Kodak Black is a genius. Hello. Oh I agree with that. Why do when a black guy is representing culture and representing something that you may not understand, it just be like, oh, he on drugs. It seemed like every black rapper who become really well, he's associated with drugs. You think so?

Starting point is 00:50:00 Future. What did everybody know future for? Percocet, Molly Percocet. But that's what everybody, that's what people were singing. All of a sudden, Kodak Black get his life together, doing billion dollar businesses, opening up stuff right here locally in Florida, signing artists, getting other people opportunity to live. He's a million dollar rapper.

Starting point is 00:50:21 He's not just some drug addict guy who just he fucking got big businesses he got a team and how he's a real business a real business no doubt a real but you I think you I think yeah you're right you know I'm definitely judging just off a video clips that I see and stuff like that nappy hair a guy with goals you know I don't see the nappy hair and goals I don't that's not the part of the judgment some of it is some of his behaviors and manners of being okay what's the behavior just some of the like things where he's kind of fading in out of consciousness? That's a part of being artists. It could be he's still in his artistry. You're right. That's what big people draw to him He's artists, but you just can't throw them to the side like not every time he doing something cool

Starting point is 00:50:58 Are we doing the lazy? Oh, he do the crazy. He got that definitely he got like a different dance He's got the he got the bop. He's got this way. He got it. Oh, he has like crazy. He got that definitely he got like a different dance. He's got the he got the bop He's got this way. He got it. Oh, he has like it's almost like a Like a redesign of Bobby Schmert like the you know, I'm saying a totally different like yo, he's like he's like the African He's like the Haiti King man. He's like, oh I don't even think He's Haitian of course, you know what it's like to be a Haiti Yo, Haiti don't got water all night like America. Really? Bro, in Haiti you gotta hang your clothes when you wash them on the line.

Starting point is 00:51:30 TV, if you go around the front of the house, your brother wearing your drawers. You sit in the whole neighborhood wearing your clothes. Your clothes gold. You don't fucking wait with those clothes? You fucking stand right by there and watch them bitches drop. You better stand and watch them bitches drop because your clothes, your boxers is wearing by your brother. It's Haiti. They're not getting closed. You're right, man Well, it's a different life. So before you quick to write off people. I didn't write him off I'm not saying you wrote them off. I feel like I'm not saying you. I'm saying they.

Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah, but I'm part of that if you're right jump into conclusions, right? Because sometimes we all do it I see a clip and jump the conclusion. Sometimes you gotta, we all guilty. I'm not saying you, it's us as humans. As humans. Just as humans, yeah. As humans, because we all get the same hours. We all feel the same emotion. We all go through the same things.

Starting point is 00:52:16 We just gotta know how to be better people because they're pre-eminate the better world. We work together better and we get to know each other better. We can do better things. Because we all here together, we all need each things. That's why we are here together. We all need each other. No matter what you got or what we got, we all got to go to work together to make something work.

Starting point is 00:52:31 That's what called an ecosystem. Economic. Economic. You ain't know I knew this shit. I knew you knew it. I knew you knew it, man. Yeah, but yeah, man. That's what we trying to do.

Starting point is 00:52:41 We trying to bridge together the racism that bring more people together so it's not a default of having your guy in prison because someone do because bro Being placed in a position could make you feel away Imagine your guy who you love you putting your top firecrackers not because what he got not because what he's doing because what his heart is like and what position he was put in and that position that that was put in pre-eminated his behavior because he felt like, shit, everybody gave up on me. And that is not a color thing or,

Starting point is 00:53:13 that's a human thing. Anybody who put in under the circumstance of everybody saying fuck you, eventually you're gonna say, fuck you. You know what I mean? Well, it's so funny, I think that's one of the ways, I think when I was young I did like, I could sometimes, I don't even know if this is racist to say man, but I'ma say it. Say that shit.

Starting point is 00:53:32 Get it off your chest bro. We all from different ways of the world. Sometimes I would look at black, sometimes I would see black people or other black kids and stuff and I would be like, I don't know what their life was like, but I feel the same way they do. There's a little part of me that has the same feeling. Like, I just felt like the world hated me so much. Because you're different, bro.

Starting point is 00:53:58 You come from Louisiana, you're country, looking at your haircut, the way you talk. Yeah, I don't know what it was. Just whatever it was, there was something inside of me that fucking was like. You feel like you a different guy, bro. You got a creativity to give to the world, bro. You got a connection.

Starting point is 00:54:13 But sometimes there was this little part of me that felt like I could mildly. Relate, bro. Relate, mildly. I'm not saying I don't know what it's like to be like somebody's life. And I'm not trying to keep interrupting, I just want to be clear.

Starting point is 00:54:23 I'm not trying to. God, respect. I'm here with you, I know you got man. It's gang town. Um So if those so the cracker today, so those it's just it's a this is the Brigham Bridge the gap between people loving each other Yeah, cuz bro say some of the words that crack has made up like we all got different legal and we all like it Yeah, you know I mean, but you got to watch people's intention though too. That's a huge thing. No, but that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:54:48 The ex, Elon Musk gave us an opportunity on X out to speak freely and positively bring people together. So imagine I started a cracker of the day that bring positivity to people. It's fun. It's fun. People send them all the time. I look at cracker of the day. Everywhere I go they're like, yo, A.B., can you make me the cracker?

Starting point is 00:55:05 Because this energy is, bro, the world is making people feel better. No matter who you is, people just want to feel good and live a good life. We all know one thing in the world, right? We're going to pay taxes and die. So in the meantime, let's just live a good life, man, because we don't know when the day is going to happen. Let's just build each other, bro. I got black babe moms, white babe moms.

Starting point is 00:55:26 I love all people. Everyone should love each other and we should. Well, yeah, no shit we should. We're just having a better world. We're just having a tough time doing it. That's the problem. No, because that's why we need more people like you, bridging the gap, talking about the stuff that's uncomfortable, making awareness.

Starting point is 00:55:39 You should bring a black guy up here who going through some shit and speak to a guy, bring awareness, raise awareness so people know you know what's going on. We can't change the rules that's in the way of the world, but we can allow people to know we aware of what's going on and we can be a part of the thing that make people feel good. Yeah, let us least- Do our due diligence. To also, but just to show each other that we're aware.

Starting point is 00:56:04 And that's, I ain't saying you owe me, but act like you know me. Don't act like you don't know what we facing. Because that's what people were, if people knew other people was aware and they was encouraging, more people would hide. Now your friend who in that situation, he'll make a bad decision because he'll understand when he's feeling this trauma. Like yo, it's okay to be how you, it's okay to feel how you feel. That's the freedom of the world. Right got your feelings. You don't have to hide who you want to be who you are

Starting point is 00:56:29 right and if people misjudge you Then that's on them and that's why we raise awareness to bring people with that misjudgment to make those people feel good Why they're going through the trauma does it wrong because we all face in trauma Yeah, no, it doesn't the most because it's that one you're like, okay I could get through that. No, it's okay to connect these two things. Okay, and it's funny exactly Getting your sweat on might seem like hard work, but with symmetry sauna, it's a work of art premium custom saunas for your home or business, plus a series of sleek pre-built saunas. I just got myself a symmetry sauna and I'm sweating out bad decisions.

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Starting point is 00:59:28 I know they're not in everybody's price range and that's understandable, but at the same time I want to support my friend and his amazing company. Now someone said that the prize for the cracker of the year was Shane Gillis, right? Shane Gillis was what? Cracker of the year was was Shane Gillis right Shane Gillis was what cracker of the year he was the funniest cracker of the year funniest cracker of the year and I agree very funny man and the funniest cracker of the year I agree he got my vote now my question is there was said that there was a prize where

Starting point is 00:59:59 whoever won it got to say the n-word one time is that true or not yes yes okay do you feel like everybody in their life has said the word. You said it rap in the song. It's a party, bro. Everyone said it. And kids, even Tom Brady one time told me, man, my son was asking me about it. Cause it's the curious thing is like you put power on the word. Like don't say that because, but words could mean whatever you want them to mean. It's all about how you take it and interpret it within yourself. Oh yeah. If you say I'm your favorite nigga, it's like yeah, I'm your favorite black guy.

Starting point is 01:00:30 You know what I'm saying? If I say you my nigga, that means like you're my god. Like you my brother. If somebody says it to me, if a black fella says that to me, I feel pretty good for that to me. You're like you my nigga. Like I fuck with you. Like we genuinely have a bond that I care about you.

Starting point is 01:00:43 I feel like okay. You know what I'm saying? Let's do it. I want to. I feel like okay, you know, I'm saying let's do it I'm gonna buy some fucking Jays, you know But now was is there why don't like people lease the n-word out to be said like at a certain event or something I could be a lot of money in that. I feel like crazy to say that I feel like just how you use it You know sometimes oh, I agree. I don't mean using it in a derogatory way, but say like tonight they had like Angelina Jolie was paying 50 bands to say it, right? On the live stream.

Starting point is 01:01:11 That'd be cool. And you sold tickets. You would wanna see how she said it. Right, so that's the thing. And you sold tickets to it. And then she said it like she had slaves, like she said it. Right, right.

Starting point is 01:01:19 Cause I might be fucking a white girl, be like, yo, call me a nigga. Like, damn. Who are these people? You don't like that? Huh? I have no idea if I like it or not. But I just think like yo call me a nigga Who are these people? You don't like that? I have no idea if I like it or not But I just think like it's like

Starting point is 01:01:30 It's prerogative You know what I mean? It's like exciting It's fucking And will they do it sometimes? No way Why wouldn't they? I'll smack them on the ass I didn't know they're doing all that So I guess if somebody's fucking you, you can say it?

Starting point is 01:01:46 That's crazy. No, how many times you said the word nigga just like rapping a song or... Oh, probably just a couple hundred times though, I bet. That's what I'm saying. It's a part of the words and we don't have to hide our feelings as people of saying stuff to be a normcy. Right, right. To feel, yeah, when it goes against kind of what's normalcy.

Starting point is 01:02:04 But I think it's, yeah, obviously you want it out of like people that be a normcy. Right, right, to feel, yeah, when it goes against kind of what's normalcy, but I think it's, yeah, obviously you want it out of like, people that are using it in like a derogatory, but do you? I feel like when people get mad anyway, they gonna use it in a derogatory way because that's what they was taught, to give off negative energy, you know what I'm saying? I used it one time, there was a black cat

Starting point is 01:02:19 or whatever that was crossing my path or something, and I was furious. What you said, look at this nigga. Say that shit, let me hear how you said it. I can't say anything. Say that shit, Theo. I'm saying it, dude. Right now, say that shit.

Starting point is 01:02:31 It was around Halloween, dude. All right, let me hear how you say that shit. Let me hear how you say it. I cannot, bro, I can't say it. Why you can't say it? Bro, cause it's not gonna end well, I don't think. Why would it not end well? It's the N word, bro, vocabulary.

Starting point is 01:02:42 You know what I'm saying? We have to bleep it out, don't we. No, don't bleep it out, bro Right just start with like no, I can't be like a B. You're my favorite nigga. All right, a B I perfect Wow, why did we say it man? I can't be saying that kind of Never a nigga me never ignorant never ignorant getting goals accomplished It's all about what the acronym stands for, bro. Words can mean whatever you want to mean. But you can't be running, I can't be out at the mall or something saying it and I'm trying to stop somebody like,

Starting point is 01:03:14 hey, here are the acronyms, you know, like that's a thing. I don't want to say it anymore. When people know you from, that you grew up with black people all your life. Yeah, but I just don't want to say it anymore, man. How about this? Let me think about this. No, because think about it. We got to change, reverse life. Yeah, but I just don't want to say it anymore, man. How about this? Let me think about this. No, because think about it. We got to change reverse racism. And that's what the cracker of the day is about,

Starting point is 01:03:31 to make the comfortability. Because you don't have to hide some of your like. But you can say, you my G, you my champ. You know, you my dog. No one calling me your favorite nigga. It's not a bad thing, because anyway. In 50 years, people will look back and think that this is an important conversation, I think.

Starting point is 01:03:44 Of course this is an important conversation, because we're're educating each other and we bridging the gap of racism We should not be doing that dude. You and me dude. This is where we at in life bro. This is where we are. You're right. This is where we are bro. Right now. That's where we are bro. That's why Trump the president That's why Trump went through all that stuff trying being assassinated That's a black person going through the court system. Every day. And he's showing that as bullshit.

Starting point is 01:04:08 Because he's showing that. He was at court, left court, only to try to be assassinated, and had to go back to court. That's fucking being like Martin Luther King, fucking Malcolm X, all these fucking black guys in history that we just went over. Look at that motherfucker right there. Show all black people that he understand what it takes to be a nigga. Gang gang bro.

Starting point is 01:04:29 Sassinated court ism. He's like come on he free, he free, he call it wife. Third wife, tall son. That's black stuff. Of course he got baby moms. I don't hear about his child support. It's heavy dude. But I'm saying this though.

Starting point is 01:04:46 You don't think, say, if Angelina Jolie was going to rattle off an N word at 730 tonight, right? And you got, and the black community sold it on a live stream, right? People could log on and pay to watch it. They're going to love that because they're going to know what they're going to like. They're going to know Angelina loved black culture, she can say nigga. Right, but also then that money- And not had it.

Starting point is 01:05:02 When you could be a realist and be truthful of who are and not how you was because that's where you been fake What's being fake TV? Hiding who you is so if you already sent it to yourself at Halloween, why you don't say it with your brother? I'm your nigga. I'm your one of your niggas. I just don't want to say it anymore You got to feel like a man when you say this Send it don't be fake cuz I'm not gonna fake it now. I just don't like it. Because that's faking it when you say it in secret and you're not able to say it around

Starting point is 01:05:30 your peoples. That's why I'm making cracker of the year to Nomacy. You're my favorite cracker. These are my favorite crackers because yo, these are my guys. These are my brothers. These are the gang gang. These are the people I kinda wanna look up to. These are the people who run in the world and putting me in position.

Starting point is 01:05:44 Well, it's funny because you really kind of came into this position like I got a text from Rogan Yesterday last night time middle of the night. I don't know he like he's the human owl Oh, he's the fucking smart genius. He wanted my one of the fucking crackers of the year. He's beautiful I didn't know he's cracking Rogan wants some he was nominated. He won. What do you mean? He's I didn't know he won. I thought you only get one. Oh, we had a lot of wars you miss me I like 12 awards. Yeah Well, I love what you're doing though, because it's so we were versing racism. I love it's new human. It's new Anytime's this is like the Kodak black thing I go back to one of my friends called that black Tony O Brown O Brown, KBAB. The guy moved artistry and now they think he on drugs. Why he got on drugs? This guy just got a nice

Starting point is 01:06:29 bop to himself that sell his music. The guy write his own rhymes. I seen him in the closet. He fucking write the rhymes, come back and put them. It's like fucking genius. Genius level. Kid been through so much adversity, never gave up. Sniper game. It's not to kill people, it's to see the goal and hit it gang Dude, how do you get in that? Is there a sniper gang called at black? I'm gonna tell him you want to be that's his club This is game. Oh, it's his game. That's my brother. I got one of the chain. No, I love Kodak man I don't think anybody like him, but you're right. I jumped in and thought he was yeah Oh, I think he reminds me of little Wayne in a way, bro

Starting point is 01:07:03 Like why like that because think about it. We grew up with this kid for, he's came up with this decade in rapping, hits, records, and while going through adversity. Lil Wayne went through adversity. He was with the Hot Boys, went by himself, was the only guy with cash money and fucking turned genius while going through adversity. Went to prison, came back, Codex Black went through the same fucking shit and still on top of the game and music and creative screen and art screen.

Starting point is 01:07:28 And unique, but to come through all of that. The perseverance, fucking shout out to Donald Trump man for freeing the man, I love Kodak Black man, not every, from Haiti, if your clothes not off the line, your clothes gone man. That's it baby, if your clothes ain't off the line, your clothes gone bro. So imagine what it's like, It's not water all night. It's not America, man. You ain't got water all night.

Starting point is 01:07:47 You got water all night, motherfucker. Imagine that. Rich. Rich ass. You coming back over here with little clothes, man. You ain't got no clothes. Your shit shrunk. You got nothing.

Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, bro. What if a big dude bar your shit in the next day? You got to wear it again. Nothing, man. Ain't no clothes out there. It's bad. So it's like, yo, man, we gotta continue to bridge the gap with people who don't understand

Starting point is 01:08:06 and make the uncomfortable comfortable. Respect. You know what I mean? And I feel like we got the power to do that. We got the voice and people, you know, and we already doing it. If you already said the word nigga, then it should be comfortable

Starting point is 01:08:17 when you see one of your favorite niggas, they'd be like, yo. What's up, my buddy? I'm your favorite nigga. I think, well, I think there could be a day. I feel like you gotta get the comfortability, the growing it. I can't practice that out in the wild, man. You gotta practice it with me, I'm your black friend.

Starting point is 01:08:31 You're gonna need to practice it with your black friend. Okay, yeah, I could set up a time or something. Just call me, we have niggerisms. I'll call you for crackerisms. Okay, okay, hold on. We'll just break bread like, yo, if, you feel me? What do you say if you didn't have no breakfast waking up as a black guy? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:46 Fuck, we just eat a bag of chips. Yeah. If you didn't have no food as a white guy. Another barbecue breakfast, bro. You like, yo mom, we don't have breakfast, mom. You know what I'm saying? But we breaking bread with just cultural things. Because that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:09:00 Culture create the economy. Yeah. You know what I mean? So we create a diverse culture where we could talk about the uncomfortability Seeing Kanye West one of my close friends talk about the uncomfortability and give people on his ass. I My only thing he was doing was speaking of truth of the uncomfortability He wasn't trying to bring nobody down. I just said something that made people uncomfortable But as humans, let's practice more with saying stuff that makes you uncomfortable some no no let's make the uncomfortable comfortable

Starting point is 01:09:27 let's not make people uncomfortable okay let's work towards bridging racism to make everyone man it's okay if a white person I like it black could that black want to be caught out white sometimes sometimes he wanted to be a white boy I like it you want to like a white boy that I'm I like a white boy sometime because guess what Michael Jackson wanted to be Michael Jackson want to be away we turn white and an Asian woman He wanted to be everything Michael Jackson bleached his skin to turn into a white guy. I Had your what's going on inside of him man, of course cuz he figured it out man

Starting point is 01:09:57 Maybe it's a little better if I look like them right because they don't care about me if I look like this No, they'll may be the biggest artists ever because now it'll look more better. You think? I mean, if a black guy ran the world, who do you think he'll put in position? You know what? That's a good point. If Michael Jackson didn't look like he looked, do you think he would have been the same success of artist?

Starting point is 01:10:17 Might be right. Might not have. No, who knows? Might not have. Not in a bad way or anything, but just no judgment, but just as a fact, he might not have. He was a black kid singing in groups. Yeah You know, he turned white Exactly

Starting point is 01:10:36 That's interesting, huh Yeah, man they had um What was that thing in about what we just talking about? Michael Jackson was alive. He'll ask me to smoke one for him. Did he smoke a lot of pot or not, Michael Jackson? Bring it up. You know, Michael Jackson was really like,

Starting point is 01:10:51 how they portrayed him to the world was different of how he really was. Well, I heard he really liked women. That's what I've heard. He used to call women fish. Yeah, good fish. Bring her. He give a woman a hug.

Starting point is 01:11:01 Yeah, you could do more than hug me. And they never showed that side of him. They never ever will because they don't need to we need to show him in a Real submissive you'll need to be a black guy like right dominant with his dick on the table Cuz so you think they was they? That's the thing how media can change so much the perception, but they can't do that as much anymore We got the X off. Thank you Elon Musk? Because now we got the ex-op. Thank you for Elon Musk.

Starting point is 01:11:26 We good. I will say that, man. That is one thing I felt like he was a, it was something where, yeah. Wow. You can say anything you want over here. Because maybe me and you could get on the ex-op and be like, all right, TV and AB are talking. Crackerism and niggerism.

Starting point is 01:11:41 Yo, TV, if you go to a black party how I got a black party You should probably show up 40 you probably show up an hour late our lake Yeah, and bring some food couple babes with me to of course bring in the hotties. We need decoration No decoration shit that look good bottles in the club. Yeah Maybe cuz I'm a thug right when I walk in put on trick daddy, bro. I fucking stand on the porch though If you don't put on trick daddy, I ain't fucking coming All right, Pete trick man, all right Pete trick tricks does a lot Crazy you got cut my amy

Starting point is 01:12:25 That's why we got of course trick out of soul food restaurant I'm a PRP chick, Chick's still alive. Oh yeah, same bro. He crazy, you gotta come to Miami, man. I didn't know he's down there. That's why we got, of course, Chick got his soul food restaurant, he cook. Of course, he go crazy with his pops. See me and you, we should talk niggerism and crikerism. I don't know how many times we can say that on here, man. What is wrong with that? They'll stop us, bro.

Starting point is 01:12:40 They don't want us communicating like this. You think they do? Who is they? Good question. We don't even know who is they. But they there, but we got to do what God called us to do is communicate That's all we do and having a conversation We're not saying that a conversation could have changed it They we just open in the minds of people who get an uncomfortable So they could get comfortable to know two guys from across from the world from two different

Starting point is 01:13:03 Cabristic out or being comfortable to talk about. Yeah. How to see it from both sides. Yeah, thanks man. You know what, cause I think there's not a lot of times where it's like, you feel with like, if you're talking to a black person or a black guy where I feel like,

Starting point is 01:13:18 can we try to just be completely real about what we're thinking? Exactly. Or what our thoughts have been, or what our real questions are all of that. Put that shit on the table. Dude I remember first time I ever I was doing high school sports or something I was lifting weights and a black friend of mine spotted me right he was spotting me and that was the first

Starting point is 01:13:43 time I remember a black guy I'd ever even touched a hand. A black guy hand? Touched my hand, yeah, we were spotting each other. But it was like, but I would just remember it, you know what I'm saying? Like thinking about it consciously, like damn, I never just- Right, I'd never, it was the same time when I went into

Starting point is 01:13:56 the black doctor, it was like, oh, I'd never, I just had never had like, would it, like, okay, you know, let's do it. But that's why we should talk about niggerism and crackerism, now it's like damn, for a person who never had that experience, they could tune in and hear me and you talk from both sides of a culture and people could dive in

Starting point is 01:14:13 and be like damn, that's pretty cool, it's like that, oh I understand that now. So now if a person be able to go to a black party, they might have the Q&As and they had a black friend, so they're like oh shit, I was in the TV, AB in the space, and AB was telling the TV, like you go to a black party a harder. You know I'm saying right what the culture is right? It is okay And TV was telling a B about like how cracker ism if I was to go to a white party different things yeah

Starting point is 01:14:38 Different conversations yeah, I think we just have to change the name and take the name word out of the name That's gonna be heavy for people Yeah, because you can't have somebody talking to their friend and like what are you doing tonight? They're like I'm going to this, you know in there I'm listening in niggerism right, but you can't if somebody hears that enough. It's just not gonna end well for people I think it's gonna be no, I think we just got a promoter the bridge No, I love the bridge in the body saying it like you's saying it, like you said, you said it a hundred times under your breath, so it's like.

Starting point is 01:15:08 No, I said it if sang it, I meant in music. Of course. That's what I'm saying. It's a part of us in music as a culture of people, so if you already sang something. People have said it right now. Some people in our area used to write it in, put it in a piece of paper,

Starting point is 01:15:21 and then they would put it in a bottle, like you know, message in a bottle, and they throw it out in a river or somewhere, you know? Because I feel like the word's been given so much power through generations of people. But it hurt a lot of people so much. No, I feel like it only hurts you if you allow it. Things in life only give, if you give it power to it, you know? If you're giving it power, like, oh man, I don't want to say it, but I'm saying it so like, you're giving it, it's like the boogeyman is like, oh man, I don't want to say it, but I'm saying it's right. You giving it.

Starting point is 01:15:45 It's like the boogeyman is like, all right, you can go see if he come. But it's like, it's not real. But if you're acting like damn, the boogeyman might come, it's like you getting that emotion in yourself. But it's like, yeah, I mean, as people, we already, you know, the, the, the bi-ratio inter ratios, uh, it's all picking up speed. Oh, it's going to be beige. I say all the time in three generations, everybody going to be beige. It's going to be a mix. It's going to be speed. Oh, it's gonna be beige I say all the time in three generations are gonna be beige. It's gonna be a mix

Starting point is 01:16:06 It's gonna be a complete mix man, especially at the rate that a lot of there's a lot of every white family Got some black dick in their family. How many black you got your family one dick two dicks? How many people I mean, I guess always some black in the white family. Oh, yeah my yeah I mean my cousin is I mean so you got black in you so you can't act like you're not dealing with black people on a day-to-day, yearly basis that you have. Like you play sports with black people, so you've seen the mannerisms. Yeah, I think it was a lot more like growing up for sure. Of course. And if I was at home, it probably would still be kind of the same way.

Starting point is 01:16:41 Exactly. So I'm just wondering... You grew up with that culture already. But if we get out, I don't know if we can be out there. I mean, what do you guys think? Nick, what is that? A realistic program to start or that sounds crazy? I mean, I think it could work. Why not? Well, I disagree with you guys, but I think Elon Musk bought the X app from Twitter. Not by saying the N word. They give people to the amendment back for freedom of speech. Now that's a good point. If we don't talk about the uncomfortable,

Starting point is 01:17:06 how when you have an interracial baby and my interracial baby go to his white side of his family house. Yeah. Cause he gotta learn that. He gotta understand that because that's some thought he gonna have in his head, just like your friend. And now they're gonna be like, damn, you mixed baby,

Starting point is 01:17:21 but I want you to act white. And then it's like, what if he like wearing a jersey like your friend now They like are you fucking won't even want to be like us We're gonna put them in a fucking LD culture now He doing something to ruin his life because somebody made him feel like no one loved him So he did something wrong out of spite because no one loved him. That's what he felt You know I'm saying so we could say purpose, but he was cold on the court though

Starting point is 01:17:43 I know that we could have saved him to make him feel like, yo, you're not weird. You're not a dickhead or you're not an aubour. Man, you're special. You got energy because you got passion towards something that a lot of people don't. So let's use this energy to the right way so you don't put yourself in a position where you want it

Starting point is 01:18:00 and you can't be around your close friend Theo now. And you know what I mean? You can enjoy your life Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's like I think let's not be quick to shut down on the things that people doing that We already come because think about this a B If you had when when people who said something that was crazy right at first people said that guy is crazy, right? People said that motherfucker is crazy, right?

Starting point is 01:18:24 Like even if you write him off kick him to the right right even if you look at like Robert Kennedy jr. right I don't care if you like Bobby Kennedy or not he was a friend of mine before I knew that he was gonna run for politics we were friends right I saw him as a reliable honest friend and then he started running for politics and he was talking about the vaccine and shit and people said he's fucking crazy Right. I mean people people that knew him people that mutual friends like he's crazy and then he made it all he made it past

Starting point is 01:18:52 I'm crazy to getting half of the people to believe him, you know Well, that's a part of the that's how everybody's done that like everybody who ever said anything that was important started off I said it was unimportant was not considered of value It was uncomfortable. It was uncomfortable. That's what I'm saying Kanye West you seen what his financial statements say how's he doing? 2.7 billion pull up Kanye pull up yay pull him up man. Yeah recently. Yeah, he's in China right now. He live out in China. Oh wow. Yeah, pull up yay Look what it say the network is. Put the network on him. In 2025 Ye's network stand at 2.77 billion. Yes. As confirmed by Eton Venture Services

Starting point is 01:19:35 based on his music portfolio and his sole ownership of the EZ Bank. Kanye West the only black guy ever give me two million dollars. He gave you two million? Two million dollars. For what were we all doing? Oh, you had Donda, right? Yeah, just like, yo, AB, how much money? And then he was like, yo, how much money you want from me? To pull up in support? No, just like the running brand, just like, yo. Is that Donda what you're wearing right now? Just Kodak Black right now.

Starting point is 01:19:56 Kodak got my Donda piece, but this Kodak, this is my new SG chain I just got from Kodak. But yeah. Wow, that's cool. I got the Donda piece. I got that and the new chain. Did he make it himself? Yeah, he had Icebox make yeah. Wow, that's cool. I got the Dunder piece, I got that and the new chain. Did he make it himself? Yeah, he had Icebox make it.

Starting point is 01:20:06 Wow. Yeah. So like, you need to think about a guy like that. He said something that was uncomfortable. Right. And what they called him. They called him. They wrote him off.

Starting point is 01:20:16 They did him just like they did your friend. The media cooked him. But guess what? I feel like the black people were so used to being cooked and during the cook, that you just, you know what I'm saying, as a kind of like a part of the history of being cooked. Put us on the grill, bitch. Let's see.

Starting point is 01:20:32 Let's cook. Let's see what happens when things heat up. Yeah. Let's see what happens when things heat up. Exactly. So you just overcome the pressure a little bit more. You know what I'm saying? A little bit more with diamonds, you overcome the pressure because you're used to the pressure.

Starting point is 01:20:43 Right. You know what I'm saying? People say Kanye was crazy. He take uh Lexapro. He take this. He on drugs. He he had problems with it. He going crazy about his kids. It's like nah we're raising emphasis on how our families are important. It is. Kanye believe in marriage. He believe in you feel me? Businesses or pioneering culture. It's interesting man when I see you like I have black friends now that have children, and their households are way different than the households of my friends that were black when I was a kid.

Starting point is 01:21:11 It's a different. It's not in poverty. It's not in poverty. It's like, oh, wow. It's more of like, yeah, it's crazy. But you seen Trump just go through it a little bit. Assassination, court system, public news, shame. And that bronze, I'm surprised he didn't go full dark on that bronze and one day just

Starting point is 01:21:29 pull up. Right, and just go crazy. He's a president, he can hit a button, wipe everyone out. He still, he handled it with class, just like all the black guys. He like Kanye. Showed up. He showed up, he didn't run from it, he didn't take himself out, he didn't crash out, he didn't give out, he didn't give in. Well he went to China, but maybe he just didn't, he liked being there better. He got't crash out. He didn't give out. He didn't give in

Starting point is 01:21:49 We went to China, but he maybe just didn't he like being there better. He got a new wife man. He's happy Oh, he is. You don't want to deal with her. Yeah Yeah, at a certain point I don't want to deal with it Especially at a certain point the media, the media every time he turn around it's almost like they're trying to make them down Yeah, they trying to bring you down. Why you never we just seen the guys rave 2.7 billion. We should be throwing pet rallies Yeah, we should be throwing frickinave 2.7 billion. We should be throwing pet rallies. We should be throwing fricking niggerism parties for Kanye West. A guy that broke his jar in the fucking craze,

Starting point is 01:22:13 a guy that gave so many people opportunities, making beats, producing, to turn rapper, to signing people, and giving, and giving, and giving, to just be constant, broke down. Well, I think it's, I do find it interesting in an entertainment that I feel like all the black artists should be represented by black agents and managers. That's one thing I feel like I don't see a lot,

Starting point is 01:22:34 but then also what do I know about anything? If you got a black guy- Is that crazy to say that you think? No, I feel like you should have the guy that's gonna get you the best opportunity that's gonna rep the brand and make you feel comfortable. Cause think it. It doesn't have to be a black guy, huh? It doesn't matter who it is. It could be a purple guy, pink guy, as long as he gives your Well-being for what he go and get the deal. And most of the times they're gonna talk to a white guy

Starting point is 01:22:56 Right. Who's working for the company that gonna give you the money So it's rather be a guy who look like him the broker to deal would be probably easier for him to talk to him Yeah, right or wrong? Yeah, you're right. Cuz who's the guy in the NFL him, the broker to deal with, it'd be probably easier for him to talk to him. Yeah. Right or wrong? Yeah, you're right. Because who's the guy in the NFL who own the teams? White guy. Exactly. Every team, huh? Every team. Wow.

Starting point is 01:23:12 Exactly, so who also own the networks that you speaking on, we representing? Certain different, some select people. You know what I'm saying? Select the people, but. Select people, certain people. Certain people, but the majority, you know what I'm saying? Select the people but select people certain people certain people but the majority Numbs in and life you did is do is right to benefit you It's not right you got to get something that life man

Starting point is 01:23:33 Just do with the people that's gonna be genuine and got your back no matter what color guys. Oh Yeah, man. I talked to my friend Stan the other day my closest black friend man And we have some real important conversations sometimes where you just feel like unconditional support from my friend no matter what. Exactly. What happened do you I know you call you you call your channel your is CTESPN. Yes. Is that who came up with that was it you? Yeah it was me because I feel like people wrote me off when I walked off the field like he crazy. Yeah a lot of people thought he's crazy Then a lot of other people took their shirts off and left their jobs. You ever see all those videos

Starting point is 01:24:10 I see I some pay it was a shitty video. They have like 30 videos I'm not a quitter now this don't give up your fucking day job I build up a lot of wealth the fucking sit on when I left out Yeah, yeah, when I left I was getting into a Lamborghini so that's a little different. That's a little different leave out. Did you feel, but did you have an actual like mental, did you have CT you think? Like did you ever feel it? I feel like CT is a trauma when the NFL just, you know being a football player you got to

Starting point is 01:24:39 go through trauma but it's like you know you prepare your body to endure the trauma. Like I lift weights, you know physical therapy, mental therapy, I it's like, you know, you prepare your body to endure the trauma. Like I lift weights, you know, physical therapy, mental therapy, I manifest the goal, you know what I'm saying? So you do all the mental clarity things that you gotta do to be welled off. You know what I mean? Take therapy, do all the wellbeing things you need to do to be a functional human.

Starting point is 01:25:01 For the family, a golly man, spiritual. So I feel like when people don't understand you or just like why we'll make them lead the field for millions of dollars, that's what they try to say with football players. But CTE is a real thing that they determine when people pass away. There's been a lot of players, football players

Starting point is 01:25:16 that died over the course of years that they just, you know, just write them off like they had CTE, but we all have trauma. And CTE is a trauma that we all endure. Like you said, you how you grew up dealing with trauma. We like life is a trauma. Yeah. Life is not perfect for nobody. Only person had it. Jesus walked the earth and he was the only one living life perfect, but his life was evolved to traumas. They killed him in his earth as an example. So like our life. That's a good point, man. Life is a lot of

Starting point is 01:25:42 trauma. Life is all trauma, bro. you're fucking back hurt your knee hurt you sore But that's what life's about our bodies is not gonna last forever. Your mind is not gonna last forever We all got a due date to die. So when you think about life in the aspect of the reality It's like yo, I'm not crazy. I just walked off to put myself in a better opportunity You just made I understand it and just thought it was crazy because you put yourself in my shoes Oh fuck I've left work early many times My job was on TV The news it just happened to be one of them days, but as a normal home and we all had these days

Starting point is 01:26:22 I love your job, you feel me? We leaving early today, boy. No voice, man. So it's just like, man. That's it, dude. So you never got actually diagnosed, though, in CTE? No, man, people can't even die. I know CTE. That's why I started CTSPN, to talk to people

Starting point is 01:26:36 about their traumas and how they deal with their traumas and cope with their traumas, overcoming adversity. Because I feel like being a great football player, being a great person in any form of life, you had to endure a lot of adversity. Like, tell me some of the things that you went through as a kid, how you was raised. You told me one of your traumas, you said, man, I always feel like a connection with a black person. You know what I'm saying? That was probably a trauma because that's something as a kid you may have to hold in. I felt unseen. That's what I felt like. I felt like nobody saw me. And so I think that that was something,

Starting point is 01:27:05 sometimes I could, when I would see how maybe black people were looked at or treated sometimes, or some of just how they even treated themselves sometimes, you know? I would like notice just little things sometimes. Or as I got, as I became an adult, I could relate to little things. I'm not saying I could relate to any of their history

Starting point is 01:27:23 and things like that, but I'm just saying there were little things I could relate to, like man, man not saying I could relate to any of their history and things like that, but I'm just saying there were little things I could relate to, like man, now I can see why I gravitated towards some of these kids because I didn't feel seen. I didn't feel like anybody saw me. I didn't feel, and if they did see me, I felt like they thought I was fucking nothing. And so there were little things like that sometimes

Starting point is 01:27:40 that I don't make you maybe could think about. I don't know, I'm not trying to make a black culture about me though. No, but listen, but that's why I started CTSPN so people could talk through their traumas, cope with their traumas, understand how to deal with it because I had to learn how to deal with my traumas to put myself together and be able to be in a position I'm in, because that's a part of life.

Starting point is 01:27:58 Life's about how you overcome adversity, how you deal with adversity, and how you overcome your situation I'm sure you've been through a lot of your life and that's why I started CTSP in a show like high level athletes and high level people what are the things that made them great what a thing they had to go through cuz we all went through some you could have been raised with one parent maybe you just never seen your dad maybe you were just artistic you like the computer you never

Starting point is 01:28:22 played outside so you just know, it could be anything. But everybody got some type of trauma they're facing. Maybe you're not tall enough and you can't pursue that dream you want. It could be any little thing as a human that we're facing and we are facing some trauma. So that's why I started CTSB and so I could talk to people from their traumas. What's your adversity? How you overcome it? What was the bridge point? Okay, how do you get through that and people can see when they're watching the video of?

Starting point is 01:28:51 Okay, I'm talking to Theo Vaughn. Okay, how the fuck Theo Vaughn overcame that situation Like how did he get in that position because I feel like because is it a weekly show CTSP in I feel like I need To do more weekly. I feel like I just be using I feel like I need to do more weekly. I feel like I just be usually Randomly talking to people about their traumas when I see you know I mean it's because sometimes a lot to talk to people about their traumas because a lot of people hide their traumas Oh, yeah, I mean a lot of people not like you become ashamed of them but comes like of course But it's like we can't be ashamed of the uncomfortable because that's the only way we get better at the dressed uncomfortable I didn't the mental health

Starting point is 01:29:28 Facility the therapist you've been all that yeah Because that's a part of recovering and getting the load of your better self So that how long when you had to go to a mental health facility how long you had to go for just uh Yeah, six weeks two weeks. I didn't do bad. Yeah, was it nice in there or not? Yeah, who isn't a Colorado Colorado Springs right there Psychological you get to thinking that man life's about looking at your life at the lodge is called the law I lost is that where you went exactly. Yeah, it's nice there beautiful, bro It's a whole facility spa gym everything just find yourself because it's like in life if we could just Save ourselves from the moment like your friend before we just get to that point where it's like, damn, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:30:06 It's like, yo. Free Brian, bro, free Purvis, bro. You know what I'm saying? Bring him back out. It's like, most of the time, it's like, yo. And life, you know what I learned, Theo, in life, it's better to be happy than to be right. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:30:18 Sometimes people get so much trauma in their life. That's from Asian culture, yeah. They get so much trauma. Like your friend has so much trauma from people treating her wrong, treating him wrong. Like he felt that it was the right thing to do, probably, to just do the wrong thing. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure, man.

Starting point is 01:30:31 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like the only thing, somehow I'm gonna show you to fucking see me, and if it's gonna have to be a crime, it's gonna have to be, whatever it needs to be. You're gonna be see me to get that look. You're gonna see me, motherfucker, you're gonna see me somehow, right? Exactly. Right on you, mother.

Starting point is 01:30:44 I'm just saying hypothetically. But that's the attitude they take as a human. You know what I mean? You take that on your own, and it's like, yo bro, ask your friend out. Was that really happiness? Right. Is that really happiness?

Starting point is 01:30:55 And sometimes though, the pain somebody, I believe, is feeling ain't even their pain. It's from another generation, man. So you have somebody out here expressing a pain that's just been stuck in their DNA because the DNA has to be even at the end of the line. God made it all even. And so I believe it has to find a way to even out because nature's a pretty even lady. And that's what about the large and therapy and CTSP. It's about understanding your trauma.

Starting point is 01:31:21 So realizing it. What is CT? Bring it up. I just want to have a clear idea because I always say it all the time and I have no idea what it is. It's the new crazy. It's like the new what you don't understand. But it's really like a head trauma that the NFL diagnosed that players die by that they can't find out until you die. So they can't find out until you die. Chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Yeah, but it's like, yo, you already got that shit if you hit it so much, right?

Starting point is 01:31:46 You a football player, we banging every day. So it's like... It's a brain disease that worsens over time and can lead to dementia. It's caused by repeated blows to the head, such as concussions that damage brain tissue. CTE can affect anyone who has experienced repetitive head trauma, including athletes, military veterans, and first responders. So do you have to get a like a diagnosed, oh you can't, did you get a brain scan done? I mean I got a lot of brain.

Starting point is 01:32:10 Damn. I feel like yo, this is just like some of the like, the dis, think about it, think about it. You never felt anything, okay sorry. I'm sorry I'm interrupting you. Playing football you gotta understand, Vaughn you're signing up to fucking bang out. Right.

Starting point is 01:32:26 Like before you even, you playing the NFL, you're lifting weights, when they hitting you, they're hitting you to hurt you. Like if they hit a guy like you, Theo Vaughn, if they knock you out on the field, they're going viral, they're going on TV, they might get a job pay raise. So it's preeminent for alpha males to just lift weights and hit hard to bang out. So you know before you sign up. Right if you sign me to the zoo you got you know but you don't expect me to be an animal. Of course so it's like okay after you done being an animal and you realize being an animal just was for a short time that is not

Starting point is 01:33:00 realistic it's just a part of your life. It's a kid game that you made your life and you realize you get 30 something, you're like, yo, I don't got that much fucking college on my knees. These shit, it's only a thin line of college that you got. That just, you ain't going to be able to run forever. You know what I'm saying? So you realize the real things of being an athlete. You just a number. Was there an athlete that you saw,

Starting point is 01:33:25 was there a receiver or an athlete that you saw one time that really like brought it to your attention? Wow, the physical, the long-term effects of the physicalness of this? Nah, I feel like you always understand as a player, is it gonna be physical, but I feel like it's up to you to play the game smart and put yourself in position. Right.

Starting point is 01:33:40 You are, it's like your craft. I'm a football player, I'm a receiver. I know how to run the routes on you with the timing and the precision and make sure I don't get hit Was there a season that you could have showed up for better? You like in yourself like you just had too much going on your own life always showed up you did Yeah, that was my life My life is my football like yo if I don't play good, I don't get treated good

Starting point is 01:33:57 Like who do you miss catching passes from the most probably a big man really? the most? Probably Big Ben. Really? Yeah, Big Ben. Probably Tom Brady too. I mean, I caught some passes. I mean, I'm really grateful to be out there playing with some of the best quarterbacks. You did get to. That's a blessing. You know, I mean, that's a super blessing, man. Being a good receiver depending on the quarterback. You know, you're only as good as your quarterback. And, man, I was blessed to play with number championship quarterbacks, you know, Big Ben and Tom Brady. I was blessed. It's kind of wild when you see guys that leave a team to go to a team that doesn't have a great quarterback

Starting point is 01:34:30 just for the money, but I guess that's part of it, huh? Nah, it's a bad decision. You about to ask Tyree Hill. Yeah, huh? He tried to be a cheater, man. He should have stayed. He fucking patched up my homes, going to the Super Bowl. You in fucking Miami?

Starting point is 01:34:43 Nah, you are in Miami. It's nice. It's not nice in Miami. It's not. You come to the Super Bowl. You in fuckin' Miami? Now you are in Miami, it's nice. It's not nice in Miami. It's not. You come to Miami after your career when you ready for vacation. Miami's a vacation. You don't wanna be down there with all this party scene

Starting point is 01:34:54 and BBLs everywhere. What's wrong with that? It's distraction, man. You need to play in Kansas City, it's cold, and you focus on football. Damn. Know you gon' win. What's BBLs mean?

Starting point is 01:35:06 You know what a BBL is? I know, I hear the term all the time. Know you're going to win. What's BBLs mean? You don't know where the BBL is? I know. I hear the term all the time. What is it? Bring it up. You never had no BBL? I don't know if I have or not. I want to see what it is.

Starting point is 01:35:14 Brazilian butt lift. Oh, okay. And they go to Brazil to get it? Oh, Theo ain't got no ass. You ain't got no chicks with no ass, huh, Theo? I don't know. How much is it? You got to buy a new ass. This is probably going to cost like 15 bands, depending on what size with no ass on, Theo. I don't know. How much is it? You gotta buy a new ass.

Starting point is 01:35:25 This is probably gonna cost like 15 bands, depending on what size you want. Oh damn. Zoom in on that one on the right. Zoom in on that. You like that ass on. That's the ass of the day. Hey, let's go, boy. That's the crack of the day.

Starting point is 01:35:37 That's the crack. She put the crack in her booty crack. That's Brazilian, huh? That's wild. That's a new ass. You gotta get your bitch a new ass when they been hit. Oh God. That's Brazilian, huh? Look, that's wild. That's a new ass. You gotta get your bitch a new ass when it been hit. Oh, God. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:35:49 I'll get her an SUV maybe if we're married or whatever. But what about the, whoa, whoa, what's this thing going on? That's funnel cape. That's not a funnel cape. That's that. Right there. There that. Literally, bro. God, that's a. Right there. That ass. Literally, bro.

Starting point is 01:36:07 God, that's a Birmingham butt lift. She got that bitch down in Central Alabama. That thing fucking lopsided, bro. Dang. Nubu cheeky, huh? Nubu cheeky. You get that skinny BBL. It depend on like what you know,

Starting point is 01:36:26 what you know, what you arrange, and how you want to open your hips. I don't know. I don't want to need, I don't want to, some women it's like, if it's too much, it kind of like,

Starting point is 01:36:36 I don't want to fuck something that's fucking back, you know? You don't want the jello? I mean, I don't know if I can handle it, man. I mean, I might swerve hit that cone. You know what I'm saying, bro? Oh, shit. Whoa.

Starting point is 01:36:48 What you think about that new Jello song? You think you like that? You know what, man? At first I was like, the bar, like the main bar is good, but then I was like, I don't know. But then I was listening to it yesterday a couple extra times and I did. I felt like-

Starting point is 01:37:01 You got one? Yeah, it's just like, I think it's, yeah. I liked it. You got one. I liked it. It's just like I think it's yeah, I like I liked it It's not like an old 90s song. It does a little bit and it makes you feel like Anybody could like it almost all like somebody from yeah, yeah You can take that in shout out the jello athletes being rappers man. That's pretty cool. It is cool, man I really like um his brother played in for the pelicans for a while Yes, brothers ballas man. It's good to see all brothers. It is cool to see three brothers get to do something together

Starting point is 01:37:30 Exciting you know and then uh and they had Zion Williamson down there. He fucking that kid got bungees Yeah, that guy this so exciting to play but now that Zion's in how are they in their last ten games pelicans? Look at their last ten games man. Zion carried these guys. They're gonna be as good as he wanna be. He just misses a lot. They gotta take care of him a little better. Oh yeah. He gotta take care of himself too. I think so.

Starting point is 01:37:53 But then also, you know what? I'm just judging, I don't really know. Nah, I feel like they gotta take care of him too. And it's on him too. It's like, yo, it's a collaboration, you know what I'm saying? A combination, because it's like, if the Pelicans gonna be great they got it They gotta go with Zion. Yeah, he go down they go down. That's good point. So it's like how do you figure it?

Starting point is 01:38:10 How do you make it all work? Like y'all gotta how do you make it all work? You gotta bring your king to the puzzle man. You can't have your guy You're right. I think I'm just a little angry at him. No, no, he's a professional Yeah, I feel like I expect more out of him too cuz he got so much ability is like it's so much more in there Yes, and time goes fast. Time ticks man. You think it's not gonna tick I feel like I expect more out of him too because he got so much ability. It's like so much more in there. Yes, and time goes fast. Time ticks, man. You think it's not going to tick.

Starting point is 01:38:29 I feel like we just got to get them. They got to build them up. What about when Le'Veon left? Was that weird when he left Pittsburgh? Man, I took the heart out of the soul of the team. Le'Veon Bell, one of my close friends, is like, man. What was his energy? He was like the team.

Starting point is 01:38:42 People loved him, huh? Man, Spice Rush Stills is known for the running backs. Oh yeah. Jerome Bettis, they love him. Levihan Bell is one of those guys. Willie Wills Parker? Willie Parker breaking on runs. 70 yards, he's a smoking guy.

Starting point is 01:38:54 Bro, he didn't get enough acclaim. He was a great player, man. Well, they more and always good running backs out of Steelers. Well, they more out of Tulane, wasn't he? Yeah, Tulane, right from New Orleans. You know your history. Let's go. We had a lot of running backs. Isaac Redman, we had a lot of good guys, man,

Starting point is 01:39:10 from the Steelers. The bus. I feel like- Franco Harris. Franco Harris. We had a legendary young- Lot of history over there. Jerry Olshansky, he was an offensive lineman, but I still- It was just so sad, because it's like, yo, Le'Veon wanted the guys be drafted. One of the guys, you just, you know,

Starting point is 01:39:23 he was this hard, stiller a guy and he was so special. And it was like, damn, it was like, money stopped us from our goals. It was like, damn, y'all can't come there. You know, that's what I mean by both sides of people, of culture, even the team. I feel like once the old linemen in the teams went to like, joking them online,

Starting point is 01:39:41 cause they was feeling freaking trauma. It's like, yo, we need him. But it's like how he feel like he don't need us. So now they like, yo, it's like, fuck you, fuck you. It's like, man, as people, we got to make the uncomfortable comfortable. And looking back, it's like, yo, that could have maybe won this championship couple championship. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:39:59 Just if we had the courage, the fucking go get Levi on, bro. But what about do you think agents sometimes ruin the possibility for there to be a- I feel like a lot of different people in your corner, telling you, building you up on what they think you deserve and what's best for you and not seeing the bigger picture and I feel like that's a part of life. Sometimes in life, if you don't act on the opportunity,

Starting point is 01:40:23 you could miss it, thinking it was positive for you and maybe it wasn't. And it's like, you know, life goes on no matter who you is. So it was like, yeah, I don't take my life for granted, man. I just in that moment we're living, I just wish we could have. Because it would have been awesome if it did happen. It was like, yo, it was like, what could have it's like what could have and it's like, we don't want to never be living in that Rim of what we could have done when we had every opportunity to do it. Yeah, you know what I mean is I That was some special moments man. We was

Starting point is 01:40:55 Who you got in the Super Bowl Mike? Who you got in the Super Bowl? Gotta go Kansas City It's like how you go against Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey for a 3p Yeah, I think also I want to see it now, because now we seeing another level of greatness, and another level of like, specialness. Shout out to Andy Reid for fucking just knowing how to do it. It's true, huh? Hell yeah. Dude, I saw, you had the tweet though today was so good.

Starting point is 01:41:19 He looked like Darlene from fucking Roseanne, bro, that shit was. That shit was hysterical. It's just funny, it's hysterical, yeah. Bro, we got the best ex app, bro. I only like my ex app and my ex box. Cause you can say what you want. Ex act and ex box.

Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah. And ex girlfriend. Sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes, but this is so true. Remember when my homies played Darlene on Roseanne, bro? Nah, he definitely, that's his twin right there. That's not his face in them

Starting point is 01:41:50 Do you just does somebody do you also have somebody else writing stuff for you is just you yeah It's a combination me and my god Jacob Jacob is that I met here. Yeah, Jacob. It's me. He'll come out Wow, he's fucking that's yeah, I'm fucking the savage. He's a savvy dude Um are there some players that you're still tight with or is there a player? Yeah. Yeah, man I got a lot of great players. Maybe I'm Bell one of my closest friends still he came with me on a Trump campaign Mike Wallace one of my close friends under the rain Yeah, classical bar as one of my long time OGs played with me in 2013 You know how to me help me like yo man move your split

Starting point is 01:42:29 Little tip busy show me we're just working the outside receiver how to play with the split so people not Understanding the routes and knowing what I was doing so I could just run different routes from different angles So they wouldn't see it just little little things little things that helped me be great You know what I mean? Deon Sanders was always a pioneer in my corner. Even when I came back to play with Tom Brady, just the whole process and that. Tom Brady was always a prime factor, even though I joked him and shit.

Starting point is 01:42:56 Being an attorney, he always was one of my friends. Coaches friend. He's a pretty stand up guy. Always stand up, you know what I mean? You always remember those people in the darkest time Who is there for you? You know I'm saying who go for you? You know I mean I knew when I went to the Raiders went to the Patriots with them had a star stint I think he got to know like damn It'd be really a smart working hard guy with you know I mean a lot of energy and the good

Starting point is 01:43:19 You know where man to God cuz you could you know come in the football team You gonna learn a lot by God one is he in shape? man to God because you could you know come in the football team you gonna learn a lot by God. One is he in shape? Could he understand? Could he know what to do? You know I mean I feel like I built that camaraderie we were just showing him for that week of work just like damn. Yeah. You know I mean he brought me back after year off we won the Super Bowl. That's heavy. You know I mean. That's big. You know I mean it was it was just amazing to know that we could do stuff. I mean it was it was just amazing to know that we could do state We could go plan some that we set out to do and do it and do it

Starting point is 01:43:50 Do you? Do you think Belichick is as good without Brady or it's just in the end? It's all just a matter of pieces. No one is in an NFL is good without a quarterback, right? And that's the time Brady's don't come around You know I'm saying you never find a guy who just got overlooked. And then he just fucking turned Superman and just fucking wiped your ass out for 20 plus years. You know what I'm saying? Because not a lot of people get that trauma. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:44:14 Like Tom Brady had trauma. Right, something inside of him or inside of his father or grandparent and his DNA. Something in his heart that was like, something in his balls. Wanted to cook. That wanted to cook. That was fucking ready to go and not fucking off the like

Starting point is 01:44:28 Some shit you never see again. Yeah, even him as an analyst I'm loving him as an analyst because he gives you serious He gives you different insights that you never would have heard. He said the other day in one of the games He said that oh, I usually looked at how far I had to get and I averaged it usually about a second per yard He said when he was like when the clock was really low or something whatever. I'm fucking that up. I fucking live a dream football like. Yeah you could tell.

Starting point is 01:44:51 It's like Drew Brees is the same way. That fucking Tom Brady is a one on one trust me. Drew Brees is the same way. I stayed at his fucking house. That kid is 42 years old, fucking, Bref-a-lazer on the fucking treadmill the day after the game and the fucking treadmill on incline, he got on a fucking knee sock, his fucking, fuck ass. We won the Super Bowl, they fucking got on, got a fucking MCL the whole game, he can't even wear it.

Starting point is 01:45:16 Yo, he wearing jeans to practice. He practicing in them fucking denim jeans, with a knee brace. And he like, yo, one more route. Fucking, he's always a one more guy. He's never had a war, just one more. Yo, this is right here for the Super Bowl. Wow.

Starting point is 01:45:32 Now he's always just the most prepared, bro. I've never seen a guy live and sleep fucking winning football games. Like, fucking he lose a game. That fucking guy, like he lost a relative. Like someone die. Like he lost one of his legs. Yeah, like even if you seen him, it's like, you don't want to see Tom at that loss. Yeah, it's yeah

Starting point is 01:45:48 He's fucking dropping even more like Fucking hit the guys even more. It's like some shit you want to be it's like some Navy SEAL shit It's right that much energy that much infectious. I yo let's go out and fucking do it towards it describe Um, I want I wanted you to get some of these words for teams, I'm going to give you a name of a team, you just give me a word or two to describe them. Ravens. Aggressor. Browns.

Starting point is 01:46:13 Toilet bowl. You know how to take the Cleveland, how many times you take the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl? How many times? You understand that bar y'all better dig Jim Brown up. I'm talking about taking a shit Oh, damn, the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl. That's the toilet because that's the only Super Bowl they're going to the toilet You go to the Browns. Yeah, you know you go. Yeah, so people know when they go in there is done Uh, same shit different toilet. Oh

Starting point is 01:46:46 You know, it's just a file of shit What about the bangles when you see the bangles, yeah The bangles I think a Pat man Jones like Raw player great player But some way they're gonna fuck it up Batman Jones, like, raw player, great player, but some way they gonna fuck it up. Just a fuck up. Just a knucklehead. You feel me?

Starting point is 01:47:12 Like some way that Cincinnati always fuck it up. It's like Joe Burrow just look like Ellen, like, but I like Chase Daniels. Yeah, you like Chase Daniels? Yeah, he is. He's back up quarterback, right? He's the running back. Oh, he is? Chase Daniels? David, what's his names? Yeah, he is. He's a backup quarterback, right? He's the running back.

Starting point is 01:47:25 Oh, he is? Chase Daniels? David, what's his name? Chase? He's the number one receiver. I don't know how I know his name, but his name Chase. He's a fucking elite. I think he was the triple crown of the league.

Starting point is 01:47:36 You're talking about Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase, yeah. Yeah. He was the fucking- They are, yeah. Jamar being Chase, that's for sure. I love Burr, he had a great season. Nah, he did.

Starting point is 01:47:49 He played like a champion though, he did good. I think it's for like- But still, the game is you gotta get- Nah, Joe Burr played his ass off. What about the Jets now? The Jets is the Jets. It's like he's just the side chick in New York, you know? God damn. You know? No, I feel chick in New York, you know

Starting point is 01:48:10 You know the jet know I feel like all New York teams right now is just it's hectic. Yes, and walking right now It's hectic over there. What's a little bit of news that's going on man. Got any news stories? Yeah, Trump said he's gonna release the MLK file Yeah, that's what I told you he's gonna really we talked about that But see I believe that that's the see here's why I told you he's going to release the files. Yeah, we talked about that. But see, I believe that that's the CIA. Here's what I believe in that. I believe the CIA or the FBI or whatever has gone through, probably marked stuff in there to make MLK look bad, right? Of course they changed the narrative. They want to bring him down. Because here's what happens is, they start to, first they give you leaders, then they start to release information that brings those leaders down.

Starting point is 01:48:42 And when they do that, they kill a culture. they kill in a culture right of course so now all the people that had him as like a as a role model and um and he may have had a guy and a high-level guy he may have had a unique life that was filled with different things but it didn't make him maybe a bad guy so it's just my it just my it just take away that's what I'm saying like you want to take away your culture that's what American been based on for black culture and white culture too, man It happens now for white culture, too. I think I have it for all human That's what we got a pre-eminent. It's mostly for the blacks the black superheroes. Oh, yeah

Starting point is 01:49:14 I mean, it's definitely happened more to blacks But now you're seeing where they're going and taking down like they're really the media can go and take black leaders down, right? I mean, that's all it is is a media takedown That's all it has been What else we got? the only person in the world after With a functioning pig organ is thriving after record two months. Oh damn. Let's pull that up man Have you had a look? Yeah, they got a pig organ They put in somebody this this the only person in the world with a fucking person damn. Oh damn is it?

Starting point is 01:49:47 An Alabama woman passed a major milestone Saturday to become the longest living recipient of a pig organ transplant healthy and full of energy with her new kidney 61 days and counting man. That's that's kind of messed up. I feel like hot in a piece of Hot and pork inside of a black person seems fucked up. Is that crazy to say? In fucking Alabama? Come on. Come on man. That's insider trading bro. You can't mess fucking. They just turn it to a pig.

Starting point is 01:50:17 I mean it's just like man. That shit's bad walking business bro. But a lot of people love bake. You can't put a piece of fucking bacon inside of somebody body Why the fuck would she get that that's all they had? That's a good point man. See that's the kind of shit that bike you've been going through like hey, we ain't got a regular heart Yeah, like some side shit They can't do them like that they gotta stop doing us like that We could get a regular one they got no regular ones out there?

Starting point is 01:50:46 Yeah, at least, yeah, you can't. That's wild. Yeah, even if a- How the fuck, what's the source of you living? Like, in a pig organ. Even give her one with the beats off a little bit, that's fine, you know, put that remix in her, but don't give her a pig heart.

Starting point is 01:50:59 Scientists are genetically altering pigs, so their organs are more human-like to address the severe shortage of transplantable human organs. Hmm Well It's interesting What else man what else have we covered I'm trying to think of things that I wanted to cover today man Tiger King star Joe Exotic claims eight prison guards beat him up after one tried to force him to give oral sex an interview

Starting point is 01:51:22 With Mac. Hmm. That's Tiger King y Y'all mess with him, this guy? I remember him. Oh shit, they trying to take Tiger King out. They trying to get him in jail, but he in there slurping for sure, bro. He been in there. But yeah, that's one thing I think is if they... I don't know what else I think, man.

Starting point is 01:51:42 My brain's tired. Yours get tired sometimes? Nah, I try to keep it going. How much pot do you smoke today you think? That's my first two joints. Damn. Yeah, I can't say. Black people are so much better at getting high I think man.

Starting point is 01:51:54 Cause you got a lot of trauma, it just helps you relax. Fuck dude, I got high I couldn't fucking walk four or five feet without making sure everybody's okay. But obviously black guys will play a whole basketball game on being high. Yeah, you got high testosterone ready to go. I don't know, it was always at beyond, blew my mind. You just got to slam your, if you want to be black, just slam your dick in the door, it's going to swell up.

Starting point is 01:52:19 Oh damn, I don't know. And then you black, you know what I mean? Then your energy going to go up, you feel me? I don't know, bro. Bro, I can't take anymore medical, I can't take anymore suggestions from you today, bro. You gonna have me with a sore dick yelling the N-word out on the interstate line.

Starting point is 01:52:34 We gonna be going viral. Yeah, we gonna be going viral. It's a black party, bro. Oh man, I appreciate you coming, AB, man. Thanks for having me, man. It was an honor, to just you know sit down Yeah, talk about some huge stuff. Even if it was uncomfortable just make the normalcy of just breaking bread, you know, yeah Yeah, I'm intrigued. What do you kind of see like what things you want to do in the coming future because it's like I

Starting point is 01:53:02 Feel like at first people thought you was kind of crazy and then now people are like thinking well Well, you know what? That's all judgment. What do you want to do? What it was some things you like like do you feel like you want to achieve? You know? I just want to, you know, serve my purpose of living, you know, giving out like, encouraging people and you know, bridging the gap, you know, some of the stuff we've been doing on X, bringing a comedy between like bridging the gap of people and just opening people minds of you know experiencing being to making people aware of what the traumas they face you know just being a normal

Starting point is 01:53:30 person not even to being a celebrity or any type of color just people as humans yeah you know what I mean going through traumas and overcoming and just bridging the gap or just raising awareness for leaders and what's one of your biggest regrets you've had over the years, if you have one? Shit, my biggest regret probably was just like, not throwing a wedding for myself. You know, I feel like so many people fucked me over and threw so much bad parties, I might as well just go to the altar with myself

Starting point is 01:54:01 and celebrate myself. That much, huh? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like life is about living. And I feel like you got to love yourself. And being a black person, you experience so much trauma with some of the people writing you down, changing the narrative, character bring you down.

Starting point is 01:54:17 So it's like, you got to keep enough sanity and not enough enthusiasm to just be encouraged and have the confidence. Because not everybody could overcome what people write in the mall killing their character, bringing them down, making them feel a certain way and take a strong individual to be able to overcome that. So I feel like just continue to raise awareness, talking to people like yourself, high level people that bridging the gap, which is raising conversation that inspired you

Starting point is 01:54:48 from the world, you know, just spreading the light. You know, I think I've accomplished a lot of things in my life in a short time, and I feel like now it's just being that inspiration as a human, the hardest thing you could do is inspire, so just inspire people, raising conversations, and inspiring people, bringing smiles Yeah spying people bringing smiles Bringing people together you do that. I mean definitely. Yeah, I think you really seem like an interesting guy I'm glad that I got to get to chat with you and I do think too

Starting point is 01:55:13 They should auction off that inward once in a while man. Maybe we have that little auction man I think about it. Maybe we had a nigga awards and then just maybe change the name where I know you hate the word But it's like it's a part of history the word only get yo we need to create a will sit in the back this time If y'all do have it, how about that? You gotta be in the front line. That's gonna cause a lot of controversy, dude I don't build it up. We're gonna throw out a teachers get the commercials We're gonna make sure we're gonna free Brian Purvis. Let him give one out Yeah, we're gonna talk to Brian Purvis on the CTSP and talk about some of his traumas Yeah, what did he learn and what he had in his life now?

Starting point is 01:55:46 And why he went to black culture to feel comfortable too Because I think that's an interesting thing I think that what embracing it, probably how he grew up made him feel like he was one of the gods Because imagine when people fit not your own people when your own people treat you like shit You feel like black people because all our people know is to be like treated like shit So it's like, yeah, we're going to treat you like shit. So it's like, until you break the culture of shit and making people understand, it's

Starting point is 01:56:09 OK to be of the not normal, but still have that love that's still built them in the right way so you don't turn the right way or do the wrong thing. We got to save people. And if they had a thing, say if you know Tonight, bruh, right? 9.30 PM, Macaulay Culkin is doing an n-word That's comedy is from home alone. You tell me how many people would pay to stream that Man, they're gonna love that and then you give the money to we donate to the organizations to black organizations exactly

Starting point is 01:56:39 We make a beneficiary man. We know everything we do with positive intent to bring people together. We're going to get a lot of hate for even thinking about that, I think. But I could think it could. I feel like we can't worry about the hate. I feel like in life. Okay, you're right. Because sometimes the hate come,

Starting point is 01:56:52 and after the hate come rewards. Look at Ye. Yeah. After the hate, 2.7 billion. Right. You know what I'm saying? After the hate come the love. I feel like if you're not getting hate,

Starting point is 01:57:02 then you're not raising the conversation. You got to be uncomfortable. Right, you're right. you have to be uncomfortable. To get comfortable. Right. Just how you feel uncomfortable about it is that we gotta find the resource to make you comfortable. And we found the resource.

Starting point is 01:57:14 Okay, let's do it like this. We're gonna give back to the black communities. So now we're not just saying this in the detarguerre rate and be funny. We got a real resource behind this. And we're bringing people together. Oh, yeah. Because this is a natural thing. It's not like when people haven't said this to be funny. We got a real resource behind this and we bringing people together. Oh yeah. Because this is a natural thing. It's not like when people haven't said this to little kids. I tell you Tom Brady's son, Ben, he was like, yo, he think about the world. I had to,

Starting point is 01:57:33 Tom Zay had to explain them in the word. I was like, yo, man, I think it's not in the 50s what people use this as, it's not slaves no more. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's the normalcy of black families being rich and living in upon the same culture of generation Wealth, yeah, and building that up and see what the future that's like in the universe You know exactly I mean, I'm just a wit. I'm just a bystander and all of that But yeah, I think that would be it would be really interesting to see If that was a way to raise some money, but that also might be really crazy And I think we talking to the exit right now

Starting point is 01:58:07 We was thinking maybe like the cracker Olympics, but there was like we maybe could maybe call it the ABC Olympics. Hmm They be in the seats for cracker. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I mean that way It's not like that's why everybody could feel comfortable cuz now we're not trying to know trying to promote Comfortability and you would do a lot of good crackers ain't getting it. They they want it's you want to be Everybody likes a little bit of shine, you know Everybody deserves son. We are humans. We deserve shine. Yeah, I know who you are in the freezer. We deserve son Yeah, all plans. Everybody's working hard towards some and all plans. Look at the Sun man. Um What we got it what yeah, we got another, anything else you want to talk about?

Starting point is 01:58:47 The Elon, the Elon Trump fart, the Elon Trump fart coin. ETF 500, Elon Trump fart coin. I wish I could pump out a fart right now before I'm on half a belly. But yeah, this the coin, it's a bitcoin. What's your thoughts on crypto? I know you got a lot of money and shit on crypto. I do just mutual, but I'm a safe, bruh. I get scared about my money. Oh wait, I did get like one

Starting point is 01:59:13 Probably 1 60th of a Bitcoin or something. How much is it? 1 40th of a Bitcoin. How much is that? I think maybe 3,500. I got a little put away. G's up. Might be 4,000 4000 so check out the Elon Musk far coin, so it's Elon Musk fart coin Elon Trump fart coin which one I trump fart corner so check out the Elon Trump fart coin, and what is that? It's a coin that's out on one of the best coins that I don't crypto. Oh really yeah, it's going up It's heating up right now. Let's see that I Trump fart 500 pull that up Elon Trump fart 500. Yeah That shit looking down like a fuck I should have been doing a long day this is 24 hours You know, yeah long day should be in greenski. There you go. I go to greens

Starting point is 01:59:58 So Elon Trump coin 500 Elon Trump fart. Oh, yeah, I was gonna fart with it. I thought he was gonna bust my ass. No, that's alright, man I don't think we need it. Let's don't bridge the gap that much, bro ETF ETF 500 okay Trump fart 500 coin crypto is going up gang game. He trade a lot. I trade a lot man. I try to get into it It's a lot of money in a digital aspect. Yeah. Oh, no, I agree. It's a huge part of the culture now, too Yeah, it's uh, we've all it's all different things that happen in financial cultures I'm curious to see what the whole future of crypto in that whole world looks like meme coins and everything. It's interesting Um, a B. Thank you, man. I really appreciate your time, you know

Starting point is 02:00:38 Thanks for having a conversation chatting with me. Yeah and for just all the tweeting and stuff It's a year. It's a lot of entertainment. So thank you for that. It takes a lot of time to do that. People don't think about that. It's a lot of time. So thank you for the commitment. And best of luck to you, man.

Starting point is 02:00:53 Thank you, brother. Gang. Gang, gang. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found

Starting point is 02:01:11 I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little

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