This Past Weekend - E564 Tom Green

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Starting point is 00:00:25 I wanna let you know we've restocked all your favorites on the merch site. Everything is in stock. You can show up the YvonneStore.com and thank you so much for the support. I have some new tour dates to tell you about. I'll be in Chicago, Illinois on April 24th at the Wynn Trust Arena, in Chicago, Illinois on April 24th at the Wind Trust Arena, Fort

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Starting point is 00:01:24 He's a visual entrepreneur He's an innovator. He's a visual entrepreneur who really laid the blueprint for podcasting and prank shows in all types of genres. He's had one of the most unique and legendary careers in comedy from the Tom Green show on MTV to his many movies like Freddy Got Fingered, Road Trip. He just dropped three new projects on Prime Video, a comedy special, a documentary, and a scripted show. We'll get into all that. We're excited to welcome Canada's son, Mr. Tom Green. I love this song. Tom Green, it's your first day back in LA in four years, did you say?

Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Feels good actually. Yeah, it was weird. I just moved four years ago. It was kind of a somewhat spontaneous decision. You know, when COVID happened, remember that? And everything stopped and all of a sudden, you know, I've been touring and I'll just remember,

Starting point is 00:02:39 everybody stopped touring, right? At the beginning. Yeah, everything kind of just stopped. I'm trying to remember if it was just me that stopped or did everyone stop? Everyone beginning. Yeah, everything kind of just stopped. I'm trying to remember if it was just me that stopped or did everyone stop? Everyone stopped. Yeah, yeah. So about the first six months or so of that,

Starting point is 00:02:50 I was kind of, what am I going to do? And then I just kind of realized I, well, I got this, I was telling you about my van. I got this van and I started going out into the desert and making videos and stuff. Here outside of LA. Just outside LA. And I love being out in the desert so much and just waking up in the morning with a cup of

Starting point is 00:03:09 coffee and just looking at the sun coming up over the mountains and just the peacefulness of that, yeah, it's out in the Mojave Desert. That was like the first day of the trip, I think four years ago. And so then, you know, I just decided to sell my house. I'd been in my house for 18 years.

Starting point is 00:03:23 I sold my house and went back to Canada and bought a farm near where my parents live. And just, I can't believe four years went by, but yesterday was the first day back in Los Angeles. In the van, we drove back down to the van. So I've been touring with my fiance who you just met. I have a fiance now. Congratulations.

Starting point is 00:03:40 Went back to Canada. I've got a fiance from Canada now. Yeah, good choice. And we came back in the van and, uh, and just drove into town yesterday and, uh, it's pretty weird because it's like, it feels like I, nothing's really, it kind of makes you think about time, time is weird, you know,

Starting point is 00:03:57 cause I went away for four years and then you come back and I drove past my house that I lived in for almost 20 years. And now I'm staying in a hotel right down across from where the house is. I can actually see the house from the hotel room. I sort of did that on purpose because I thought it would be weird.

Starting point is 00:04:13 And, um, and, uh, you know, I'm going to this, I went to Art's Deli, you know, I lived sort of in the studio city area here and I went to Art's Deli and got my, my same pastrami sandwich and my, my chicken noodle soup. And, uh, and I've been going to some of the same restaurants, just been here for a day and I'm, and it doesn't feel like it's been four years.

Starting point is 00:04:34 It feels like I actually, I'm driving here, you know, today I was, I sort of almost forgot that I didn't, didn't live here anymore. I kept thinking, oh, I'll go back to my house after, oh right, I don't live here anymore. So that's a strange thing. But on the flip side, in the last four years, I've got a farm, which I've now really settled into.

Starting point is 00:04:54 I've got these incredible animals, which are now, I'm really bonded with this mule and this donkey and two horses and chickens. And it's just like this, it's sort of been an incredible, incredible journey the last four years. So yeah, it's been cool. Was it something that you always wanted to have?

Starting point is 00:05:12 You feel like a farm, I guess every human kind of maybe feels something like that. I'm gonna get a little bit of land, I'm gonna get some animals. Was it that or was it? You know, it's weird cause I never really imagined having a mule, you know, like, and riding a mule every day. I didn't grow up with that.

Starting point is 00:05:26 You know, I grew up in the suburbs of Ottawa, Canada. I'm outside of Ottawa, but, but, um. And a mule is kind of like the El Camino of horses in a way. Yeah. You know, it's very much the, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:05:39 It's not, it's not me saying, hey, I'm going to get a horse. It's like, I'm going to get a mule. Yeah. Yeah. I sort of thought, initially I thought it would be kind of funny. And then the mule I happened to find, Fanny, is her name.

Starting point is 00:05:52 And she's this beautiful mule. She's this huge animal. And that's Kia, the donkey in the background. And so it's just become this sort of amazing change. But yeah, you know, initially I hadn't, I hadn't really thought of necessarily getting a farm with a mule and all this stuff, but I wanted to get a place that was kind of in nature really was, and

Starting point is 00:06:17 then the, the, the farm happened to have these old barns on it and I thought it'd be kind of cool to get a mule in those barns. So I, I, I now am very now am very much loving life up there. I get up in the morning and I have a saddle her up and ride off into the wilderness. It's pretty cool. Really?

Starting point is 00:06:33 So does it fit? And that's never something that you wanted. That was never like a thing of your whole life. Like I want to have this thing. It just kind of. Yeah. I mean, I always loved animals. I have my dog, Charlie, and I've always

Starting point is 00:06:44 enjoyed being outdoors, but I mean, it just kind of, I know every once in a while, you know, sometimes when an idea pops into your head and then you just go with it and then all of a sudden you've done it. This is like that, except it sort of occurred to me afterwards, you know, as I was doing it, I was realizing, you know, I'm going to have this mule for the

Starting point is 00:07:05 rest of my life, you know, like they live to be, donkeys live to be up to 40, 50 years old. Oh my God, really? And Kia's only three, so it's a lifelong commitment. And. The donkey could live after you. Absolutely. She probably will.

Starting point is 00:07:18 But yeah, so it's, so, but it's, you know, it's, um, I think maybe I was looking for something that would kind of ground me and, you know, give me that home base that I's, you know, it's, it's, um, I think maybe I was looking for something that would kind of ground me and, you know, give me that home base that I needed, you know? This is the first, this is the first time I've ever lived somewhere where I know I'm going to be there for the rest of my life. Wow.

Starting point is 00:07:33 You know, I'm planting trees. Yeah. And I'm thinking, oh, in 20 years, I'm going to, that tree is going to be, these trees are going to be bigger. And I'm kind of sort of plotting out things that way. And yeah, that's interesting.

Starting point is 00:07:44 I can totally relate with that and what you're saying about LA. LA just feels like this kind of sort of plotting out things that way. Yeah, that's interesting. I can totally relate with that and what you're saying about LA. LA just feels like this kind of, it's almost like LA doesn't have a memory in it. It feels like, I don't know, other places, I think especially if it's a place that's a little more grounded, it feels maybe more meaningful for some reason.

Starting point is 00:07:59 I don't know. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's weird. I moved here when I was 28. I think it was 28 or 29 when I moved't know. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's weird. I moved here when I was 28. I think it was 28 or 29 when I moved to LA. I'm 53 now. And I mean, I loved it. I had a great time here. I wasn't leaving LA because I didn't, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:18 like LA or anything. It was just, it was more I wanted to be close to my parents and they were still doing good and I wanted to be close to my parents and they're still doing good and I wanted to be close to family and stuff. But yeah, it is a unique place for sure. People come here from all over the world, pursue their dreams and there's sort of a energy there that's exciting. But as I got a little older, I know, I left when I was 50 and, uh, you know, not married, no kids, COVID happened.

Starting point is 00:08:53 Um. I wake up. I've been in my house for 18 years. The real estate market went up. I was like, oh, maybe I should sell it now as opposed to, you know, five years ago, I wouldn't have wanted to sell. So there was a moment in time, maybe I'll sell this place that I've been living in for

Starting point is 00:09:08 20 years waiting for the right moment to feel like it was time to go. Because I don't know, I kind of felt like I wanted to be back where I grew up. I mean, you're not from here either. So, you know, there's something very sort of, I guess, deep that you feel when you're home, you know? I'm sure, where are you from? Tennessee. I'm from Louisiana, I live in Tennessee now. Louisiana, Louisiana.

Starting point is 00:09:35 But yeah, it gives you, yeah, there's a sense of like, yeah, that you've been out of your soil for a long time, you know, that you've kind of. Like when you go back to Louisiana, you must feel like, oh, now I'm at home, right? This home. Oh, there's definitely a ton of nostalgia that I love, you know? I think it makes sense that a party wants to kind of go back where you came into the world at or be there, you

Starting point is 00:09:58 know, to be, see people that care about me, see that, see people that I care about. Wonder if you've gotten enough of the adventure out of your system in some ways. You can still have the adventure, but just have it from there, you know? And I think also the part, like you're saying about, this is the first time you'd ever planted plants. You're like, I'll see these.

Starting point is 00:10:18 I've always felt like my life was very transient. Like I was just passing by. I've never been the type of guy to get a lot of furniture or artwork or anything. I'm always just like, I don't know how long I was just passing by. I've never been the type of guy to get like a lot of furniture or artwork or anything. I'm always just like, I don't know how long I'm gonna be here. And it's always, and here I am in my 40s and I still kind of operate like that.

Starting point is 00:10:34 But at a certain point it's like, yeah, you want something that's a little bit more settling. And if you found a fiance, I'm sure that kind of helped a little bit. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Amanda's here. It's her first time in Los Angeles. Nice, at least you get to be a host and a tour guide. sure that kind of helped a little bit. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Amanda's here where she, it's her first time in Los Angeles. Nice. You get to be a host and a tour guide.

Starting point is 00:10:48 That's kind of nice. Showing around my, uh, my old hometown, my new old hometown. Yeah. And a camper too, dude. What was that about? Yeah. So that's, that's been pretty wild. It's, uh, so like, cause when I got this van, I, uh, I kind of got pretty good at

Starting point is 00:11:02 it, like going to really remote places in the American Southwest particularly, like in New Mexico, Utah. Zion, you go to Zion? Yeah, I went to Zion. I didn't camp in Zion, but like there's this other kind of land called BLM land, Bureau of Land Management land that is basically all of the desert and land that is owned by of the desert and land

Starting point is 00:11:25 that is owned by the US government. It's managed by the Bureau of Land Management. And they'll cut roads into the desert and they'll put sort of campsite areas with fire pits and stuff. They kind of keep it somewhat organized so that people don't go driving all around the desert and trash in the desert. They have these roads and stuff.

Starting point is 00:11:43 So you can get, I got this app, it's called, uh, dirt D U I R T. It's like, it's basically an app that gives you all the different locations of these sort of really obscure places that are not even in national parks or anything. DUI RT. Yeah. Yeah. And so it kind of like, you find stuff that is just unbelievable. Like, um, you know, I sort of can't stop

Starting point is 00:12:06 talking about it to people that don't know about it, but like, I mean, you may know about Chaco Canyon, but I'd never heard of it before. It was, it's this, it's, it's in New Mexico. And in fact, if you go to my last, uh, YouTube video on, uh, my YouTube channel, that's just a video I shot a couple of days ago.

Starting point is 00:12:22 Um, and you can scroll down to like the second video, the second video. This is Chaco Canyon. So this is like native American ruins that are, uh, essentially like built in the year 875. It's like, you know, and it's like this, it's a city, you know, it's like a city in the desert. Um, and it's just out there in the middle

Starting point is 00:12:43 of Northern New Mexico. This is, this is Amanda, my fiancee, Amanda. And, uh. Yeah, I think so. And we're just going around making these videos and, but you'll see, like, look at this place. So it's like, you know, everyone always talks about Machu Picchu in Peru and they talk about

Starting point is 00:12:59 all these incredible things in, you know, ancient, you know, uh, you know, places, but like the fact that you can just drive out of Albuquerque, you know, drive north of Albuquerque. You know. Wow, this is there? Yeah, this is there. And it's really remote, like it's on the

Starting point is 00:13:15 Navajo Nation, uh, uh, land. And so we just were out there camping for four nights and, uh, exploring and hiking off into this beautiful desert and, um. Getting some good were out there camping for four nights and exploring and hiking off into this beautiful desert. Getting some good rest out there. Do you get good rest when you're out on the road? Oh yeah, absolutely. That's nice.

Starting point is 00:13:32 It's nice, just it's quiet. That's the tough thing to get, man. It's cooking on the campfire and it's just been fun. And I enjoy photography, you know. You're shooting this really, really well. Yeah, I got sort of lots of different cameras and stuff and I, I like to kind of do that. So it's, there's something about shooting out

Starting point is 00:13:51 in the desert that's just so beautiful. Cause you have these long horizons and you know, big open spaces, but, and there's an energy there that is just something that's hard to put your finger on, but it just, you know, I always kind of sort of, I never really kind of, um, really maybe didn't even believe in that when I was younger, when people would talk about

Starting point is 00:14:11 the energy and Sedona's got this energy. But you know, I feel this energy out there. That's just of the people that live there, that built that place. It's, it's, it's, and, and other places like it. So it's kind of fun to go seek those places out, you know. Yeah, you'll meet a lot of women, you're like,

Starting point is 00:14:26 I never have a period when I'm in Sedona or whatever, and you're like, well that's, what are we talking, you know what I'm saying? But there's some crazy, yeah. You've met a lot of women that have said that? I mean, I just think you meet a lot of women who are, you know. Very specific thing for a lot of people to have said, but yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:41 A lot of women are keeping crystals in the wrong places, probably, you know? But yeah, lot of a lot of people who are into that sort of thing But I think that's probably like I mean the natives it always feels to me like the natives are probably so in touch more in Touch with the earth and locked in on like the feeling of like the best places to be That's why they love to be in and like the decoders and in the black hills and stuff like that And so to be able to go to one of those ruins, I bet, I bet there's still a lot of like, just a lot of prehistoric or like native connection that's just looking for souls to pass through, you know? Yeah, what you just said is like really interesting because

Starting point is 00:15:15 I was talking to basically an archaeologist the other day and he said exactly what you just said, like there's this thing called intuitive archeology where they go, cause there's still stuff out in the desert that people haven't even found yet, like it's just how big it is and how vast it is. And so they go out into these canyons in Northern Arizona and Utah looking for signs of, you know, ancient settlements and stuff. And, uh, you know, they're sort of taught to intuitive archeology.

Starting point is 00:15:46 If you're in a place that feels like it would be a nice place to have lived, you know, a beautiful place. Yeah. You just have a good chance you're, that feeling is correct. And then you should sort of listen to that instinct and start looking for signs of ancient civilization. But it's pretty amazing because you do feel

Starting point is 00:16:10 something out there. I don't know, I was talking about this friend the other day too. Like you ever go in like an old comedy club that's been, you know, like Zany's in Nashville or downtown Chicago is an old club, you know, and you see all the old pictures from the comics from back in the 70s and 80s.

Starting point is 00:16:28 And it's, you know, that club's been there forever. And you kind of feel the energy of, you see a lot of comics that have passed away on the wall. And you say, oh my god, Sam Kinison performed here. You know, I can sort of feel that energy of the performance in the room, you know? So, you know, that's, that's from 40 years ago or whatever, but now you take it back to

Starting point is 00:16:53 the year 875, you're out in the desert and this, this place, Chaco Canyon was a whole society is like where they did trading and people came from all over North America there. And so it's a, it's a very peaceful thing. I do enjoy it quite a bit. And is that something that you and your fiance have kind of, is that something you guys have found you like doing together? Because to go camping, a lot of people would end up getting separated usually, I feel like.

Starting point is 00:17:22 This is her first time actually really coming to throughout a lot of the United States too. So she's, she's from Canada and hasn't been out to the desert before. So, but she's, I mean, she's, she's, we're having fun, you know, we're having fun out there, but it's, it's, you know, we just have, this is our first trip doing this.

Starting point is 00:17:43 So it's been cool. Was it scary to get engaged? Because you've been married before. Mm-hmm, yeah, briefly, yeah. I was briefly married, yeah. And then- It was a long time ago, too, yeah. And you hadn't been married since, though?

Starting point is 00:17:56 No, no, no. Okay. It's first time engaged since. You know, no, it was not scary because- Because that was Drew Barrymore, right? 27th in the early 2000s or something? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. But no, it wasn't scary because Amanda's amazing. So I knew it was the right thing,

Starting point is 00:18:14 this was the thing to do. This had to be done. That feels like the hardest decision. Yeah, I think that's the thing. Yeah, I would like to get married, you know, and I'm just thinking like, man, that day when you're like, all right, I guess I'm gonna get married today.

Starting point is 00:18:26 That sounds crazy when I say that out loud, you know. And you're a young guy too, you know. To think that. There was a lot of things that happened that, you know, I don't know if you want to talk about, you know, I'm talking a lot about energy, but coincidences and synchronicity and things

Starting point is 00:18:40 like this. I moved back to Canada, uh Canada and I have a pond on my property and in the winter it freezes over and I shoveled the snow off the pond and I was playing hockey on the pond, like skating, playing hockey on the pond. Shot a video of that and put it up on the social medias.

Starting point is 00:19:04 There we go. Wow, that's beautiful. Here we here we are out of the pond. Wow, you got a fast guy on the draw out there on the, I just literally just said that and he instantly found, yeah, we're, so we're drilling a hole in the pond here and, and that's, then we can pump the water out of that back on top of the pond and give it a nice

Starting point is 00:19:21 smooth, icy, that's my friend Ryan. Oh wait, so what are you using here to do this? This is a? It's just a little sort of a, kind of some sort of a ice auger or some sort. Okay. So that, so you take the whole, and then you. Then we got a pump, we're going to stick a fire

Starting point is 00:19:36 hose down in there and we pump water out of it. We pump it up on top of the, of the, of the ice and just basically flood the ice and then it freezes cause at night. And then we get nice, some nice smooth ice out there. How long does that process take? Just a day, you know, this just took a day. The next morning was completely frozen.

Starting point is 00:19:53 But then you get two feet of snow and then you gotta do it all over again, which kind of puts a damper on it. Wow, this is so cool. So that right there that you're on is a lake. It's a pond, it's a pond, yeah. Okay, so that's a pond. There's the dock. So usually it's water.

Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. Yeah. It's right now you cut the holes, you're pumping the water out of the pond onto the top of the ice, which is on the top of the pond. Yeah. And then it gets, it's cold, you know, it's below zero. So then the next morning it was pretty much ready to, now normally you would shovel it off first, but we just kind of, we're kind of a little lazy

Starting point is 00:20:25 about that, I guess. And we just flooded it instead, which it ended up working out fine, but probably would have been better if we shoveled it off first, but that seems like that would have been a lot of work. Yeah, you don't need to do that. But there you go. See, and then, so yeah, so we were doing this and

Starting point is 00:20:41 then I was shooting these videos playing hockey. There we go. This is the next day? Yeah, it's like probably the next day I was shooting these videos playing hockey. There we go. This is the next day? Yeah, it's like probably the next day. So this is a common practice in Canada? Well, you know, if you have a pond, I mean, those are the barns in the background. That's my house up there behind there.

Starting point is 00:20:56 And so, you know, we used to do it in my backyard when I was a kid. Like we used to flood the backyard and... Yeah, Gretzky talked about that. Right. When he was on it, he talked about flooding his backyard. That's cool. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:08 Pretty cool. That's amazing. The great one. Yeah. Yeah. So we. I saw him at the inauguration, he lost a tooth. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:14 It fell out. At the inauguration, he lost a tooth. Yeah, I chipped my tooth and I walked up to him and I was like, man, I chipped my tooth and he's like, oh yeah, and he showed me this and he fricking lost one. Him and his wife were looking for it on the ground. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:21:24 But it had been knocked out previously in a hockey game of some sort. Yeah. You didn't get punched out at the inauguration. No. I think he could have been shocked by something he saw. Yeah. Maybe that took it out. But yeah, he was just missing a grill piece at the inauguration. It's just pretty bizarre.

Starting point is 00:21:38 Man, that's cool. Yeah. Dude, that's amazing. So these are the types of things you're spending time doing up there. You really document it really beautifully. And a lot of that doesn't even have a lot of audio with it. It's really just seeing. I've noticed this in some of your videos.

Starting point is 00:21:49 It's just kind of seeing what's going on. Yeah, yeah. I kind of like to just kind of do these sort of ambient sort of things to kind of just kind of bring you into a certain place. It's sort of like I like photography. This is just doing it with video and being, being there. But after I posted that video, Amanda, my

Starting point is 00:22:09 fiance, she saw it and she sent me a message on Instagram. This is how we met. And it was a video of a Zamboni, a do it yourself Zamboni, which is a, what a Zamboni is what you use to clean off the ice in a hockey rink, right? And so it was this homemade one. And we started, I just started talking to her

Starting point is 00:22:26 because I thought it was a funny thing to send. And we, turns out we went to the same elementary school and yeah, it was just sort of, it was, it was just went from there. So. Cool, congratulations. Yeah, thanks man. So.

Starting point is 00:22:40 And did you meet your parents yet or no? Oh yeah, absolutely. She did. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Were your parents happy to have you back home? What was that like? Yeah, no, absolutely. She did. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Were your parents happy to have you back home? What was that like? Uh, yeah, no they are for sure, yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:48 No hesitation, they were excited for me to come home. Believe it or not, you know, because sometimes people wonder, you know, because I used to do a lot of pranks on them. Do they still talk to you? Oh yeah. But my parents, we were always very close. Even when I was doing my show on MTV

Starting point is 00:23:03 and doing pranks on them and, you know, annoying them with the video camera. It would sort of laugh afterwards and, and we've, you know, always had a very close relationship there. They're actually in my new show on, on prime. It, you know, it's sort of about me moving home. Okay. Shows about me moving home. That's not the, I got a mule.

Starting point is 00:23:23 That's not that. Is that? That's my standup special. Okay, that's a stand up special. That's on Prime as well right now. Yeah, yeah. And there's a documentary on Prime and then the show called Tom Green Country. And sort of about me settling in at the farm. And they're hilarious.

Starting point is 00:23:36 I mean, they really make the show. Like there's something about their sense of humor is, they're kind of razzing me in the new show more than me pulling pranks on them I don't do that anymore. Kind of full circle. They've retired from being pranked. From being a victim? Yeah. If you love Bitcoin or you're looking to get in a crypto then I've got the right thing for you introducing MoonPay the easiest way to buy or sell crypto using the payment methods you already feel comfortable with. Credit card, debit, PayPal, and even Venmo.

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Starting point is 00:26:46 why you liked to record things or like what you got out of, like, you know, as, cause as we get older, we kind of start to get a little bit of a, like a overview kind of, of ourselves even, you know, in the world, maybe a little bit, a little bit of an idea of what we have been doing in the world. You ever able to figure any of that out,

Starting point is 00:27:04 kind of like the reasoning behind some of it? Like why you liked capturing things or why you liked pulling the wool over people's, or you know? Yeah, I think there was kind of a few layers to that, for sure, and that's a cool question. It's a great question, because like, one thing was we never really had a video camera. I grew up in the 80s, so we didn't have a video camera or even a film camera. We didn't even take a lot of photos.

Starting point is 00:27:40 That was kind of expensive. People that had a video camera, they had a, you know, a lot of money, they had a video camera, we never had a video camera, you know. And so when all of a sudden they became somewhat attainable, you know, I would, I would sort of sign one out at school. Um, and I would, I found that it was kind of a, first of all, I loved comedy.

Starting point is 00:28:04 So I loved, you know, David Letterman. I love watching him go out in the street and, you know, do stuff. And I loved, you know, Monty Python and, you know, just SCTV. And I just loved comedy. I was, I was, was doing standup comedy in Ottawa when I was 16 years old.

Starting point is 00:28:21 And like, I was, would go down to watch, you know, Norm MacDonald, you know, when he was, when he was to watch, you know, Norm MacDonald, you know, in his 20s, you know, and I'm just like, it was sort of a, it's amazing thing. And I somehow had this sort of feeling that if I could just get a video camera and go film stuff that, you know, maybe I could, uh, you know, make a show or whatever, but there's also skateboarder,

Starting point is 00:28:44 you know, and that was, that was sort of skateboarding videos where, holy shit, look at this, this is amazing. Right there, you're looking at something. How did you find that so fast? Yeah, there are me at 16 years old, yuck yucks. Yeah. How did you find that so fast?

Starting point is 00:28:56 I don't even know how, you must've had that in advance, that, that is unbelievable. So there's some sort of weird algorithm here or something like that. I don't know if they did or not, but yeah, it looks great. Wow. Yeah, it looks so.

Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah. Look at that microphone too. It's like, I don't know if they did or not, but yeah, it looks great. Wow. Yeah, it looks so. Yeah. Look at that microphone too. It's like, I don't know, they didn't even use the right microphone back then. But, but I, no, I just, I know, I, I often kind of like think there's something about like, I don't know, I think I've always been really

Starting point is 00:29:22 afraid of the concept of like being dead, you know, like being gone and like there being no sort of, you know, recollection of anything that you've ever done, right? And I always found it interesting to just kind of document things and just record things and that'll be there, you know, in some electronic way floating around there forever. And sort of feels in a little way like kind of like sort of a weird kind of immortality in a way, you know. I think that's kind of what fascinates me about these ruins in the desert too. Like these people came and built these things in the year

Starting point is 00:30:00 875 and I'm walking through it and looking at it and filming it and talking about it with you. And so they're kind of in a way kind of remembered, you know. Yeah. Um, and then there was also just kind of the blatant, you know, when I was younger, I was a little quite a bit different than I am now.

Starting point is 00:30:18 I think I've calmed down quite a bit. Like when I was younger, I really always needed to be kind of like, you know, the center of attention, the class clown, moving around a lot, was weird as a kid. So to me, it seemed like a really good way of just kind of, you know, documenting all of this silliness, you know? And I loved it. You know, I loved filming stuff and showing it to people at school.

Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. You captured so much. You were one of the first people really to just capture shit and just show it, I loved filming stuff and showing it to people at school. You captured so much, you were one of the first people really to just capture shit and just show it to people kind of, you know, like kind of like, not shit, but I mean just cat, you know. Yeah, no shit for sure, yeah. Actually, actual shit was involved quite a bit too. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna capture shit and show it to you. What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:31:01 This is what we mean. And I can totally relate to what you said about Dude, I used to when I was I guess probably Turning around 20 to probably 28. I would make postcards and I would send them to my kids They weren't even born yet. Like whenever I was traveling somewhere, I would send them. I would make them out to my kids I just wanted my kids to know that I'd been, I needed there to be some record that I like cared about my children even though they weren't here yet. Which is kind of a crazy thing, but it made me think about what you're saying. Like, and I would scrapbook, I would save things. Like I just wanted there to be like some proof that I felt something in the world and

Starting point is 00:31:41 that I existed, right? I think I just didn't, I don't know if I just didn't have a lot of that, like, or I needed an insane amount of proof and so that's why I did it, but yeah, I could just, I could definitely relate to that to wanting to have some timeline. Yeah. So I, you know, just in case time ever showed up and said, hey, were you here?

Starting point is 00:32:04 I could be, well. Yeah, yeah. Yes, here I was, you know, just in case time ever showed up and said, hey, were you here? I could buy well. Yeah, yeah. Yes, here I was, you know. I could show you my homework kind of or something, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, I can relate to that because I talk a little bit, my standup special about not having

Starting point is 00:32:17 kids and I sometimes think it's kind of a bit of a message to my future children that, you know, that I'm aware that I haven't had them yet, you know, and so I totally understand what you're saying about that. It's, yeah, I mean, it's a weird thing, you know, because right, 20 years ago, nobody had, definitely 30 years ago, nobody had video cameras really like they do now, but now everybody with their phones, everything documented.

Starting point is 00:32:46 It's so normal now, but I just put this documentary out on Prime, which is called, this is the Tom Green documentary. It's sort of a play on my old theme song on my show. This is the Tom Green show was the song, right? Yeah. So, I went through like thousands of hours

Starting point is 00:33:08 of video and I'm going back looking at, you know, 17 year old me running around doing stuff. And, uh, it was, it was actually kind of a pretty, um, somewhat terrifying experience actually, because it was like this opportunity to kind of tell the story of everything that happened with my show and everything that happened with my experience here in LA and I wanted to kind of you know tell the story right and I've got so much video and combing through all of it was

Starting point is 00:33:41 at times you know somewhat kind of like, I would be looking at myself like I'm looking at a completely different person. And I can't even believe, you know, I'm finding things I don't even remember happening. And I'm looking at things that are just so completely bonkers and silly and ridiculous. I'm like, whoa.

Starting point is 00:34:01 Like sometimes I couldn't look at the TV. I'm like, oh my, what was I doing? You know. And that's how you made us feel. Yeah, exactly. I was doing it to myself 20 years, 30 years later. And no, I wouldn't recommend it to anybody to go make a documentary about yourself. Definitely hire somebody to do that and never watch it. But no, it was, it was fun because I wanted

Starting point is 00:34:20 to tell the story the right way. But, but it was also kind of very surreal But you know was it hard to be true to yourself making like, you know Making your own documentary and and no one should probably make your documentary except for you because you're one of the rare cases It feels like that has So much has documented themselves so much, you know like And I don't even know if it's, I don't know if it seemed like an egotistical way. I don't think it ever came across like that. If your

Starting point is 00:34:49 footage had just came across, you wanted to have control over how of yourself, you wanted to put yourself out there. Um, but was it hard to make a documentary and not want to like make yourself the hero or something? Or I don't, I've never made a documentary before. Yeah. Yeah. Or was there any of that in it or something? I've never made a documentary before. Yeah, yeah. Was there any of that in it, or how do I make this? Yeah, it's like the first scene of the documentary I'm sitting with my mother and she actually says, are you really supposed to do,

Starting point is 00:35:13 direct a documentary about yourself? I mean, can't you kinda whitewash that a little bit? Are you gonna do that? Yeah, I'm gonna do that. But honestly, I wanted to be, I did not want to completely put a false story out there. So I think the hardest part was trying to figure out how to not be too self-deprecating. Because you think, when you get to my age, you look back and you think, oh my God, I wish I hadn't done that or I wish I hadn't done that or shouldn't have said

Starting point is 00:35:47 that or shouldn't have done that. And, you know, I have a lot of those things, right? They're constantly rattling around in my head and you start to think like, you know, man, maybe this is a good way for me to go and just like apologize for everything that I perceived that I've done wrong in my life.

Starting point is 00:36:03 Right. And then you have to kind of take a step back and go, well, wait a minute, you know, like that might just be in my head, you know? So I spent a lot of time talking to a lot of people about, you know, people that I know, people I'm close with about the story of, really it's the story of the, of the show and, uh, and takes us through the story of kind of creating the show and then building, you know, before the show with my music and then after the show with building a, you know, a sort

Starting point is 00:36:33 of a web TV studio, right. In my, in here in Los Angeles. And it's sort of a telling of that story. But then I wanted to talk a bit about some of the, you know, personal sort of, personal sort of things that I went through. I had cancer when I was on MTV and I talked about that. I made this movie, Freddie Got Fingered, which was not critically completely embraced.

Starting point is 00:37:01 So, you know, so it's like, I wanted to explain myself a bit, but then, you know, at the same time there's a lot of people now that like the movie, believe it or not. So I didn't want to completely, you know. And hate the critics now. Yeah, yeah. So it's sort of like it was a very tricky balancing act. And then on top of that, there's just so much footage and so many weird little funny clips that only I know are the ones that people like or people have or haven't seen.

Starting point is 00:37:28 And I kind of wanted to make sense of that all and piece it all together. I don't think anyone else would have been able to find it all, you know? Yeah. So. Was there a project that you kind of wanted to do over the years that you didn't really nail or you didn't, that something that didn't happen? Was there something? Because you've just done so much stuff. I mean, you know, it's interesting because,

Starting point is 00:37:51 like, in fact, that's part of what the documentary's about, because like when I was a, got into making the show when I was growing up, all I could even imagine myself doing was I wanted to be a talk show host. You know, I wanted to do basically a show like David Letterman, right? Have guests on and then I go out in the street and you know, be a nutcase, you know, do goofy stuff,

Starting point is 00:38:13 right? And I got to do that, you know, a few times over the years. And, um, you know, when those shows go away, you know, initially when that happened, you know, that was back in the day of MTV, you know, the first show I stopped when I, when those shows go away, you know, initially when that happened, you know, that was back in the day of MTV, you know, the first show I stopped when I, when I got sick. So, you know, it didn't actually get canceled,

Starting point is 00:38:31 the Tom Green show, but then when I started, I did a nightly show, it kind of, you know, when it kind of got canceled, I was thinking, oh my gosh, you know, this is the worst thing that could ever happen to me, that I could ever imagine that I'm not going to be able to do a nightly talk show. You know, like this just was like, this was

Starting point is 00:38:51 devastating to me, you know? And as time marches on and I look at all the things that I've done instead, you know, to touring, doing standup or, or moving back to the farm and, and, and, and everything in between, into touring, doing stand-up or moving back to the farm and everything in between, I kind of realized, man, I'm kind of glad that actually didn't work out because if that show had been a big hit,

Starting point is 00:39:15 then I would have been going down to the same studio every night for the last 30 years and I wouldn't have gotten to do all these other things. So, you know, Freddy Got Fingered, of course, was a idiotic movie, you know so so you know Freddy got fingered of course was a idiotic movie you know purposefully so yeah did you guys make that yourself yeah I wrote it with my friend Derek and we I directed it you did was it your first time you ever directed a movie it was yeah it was but it was we had a

Starting point is 00:39:40 budget you know it's 20th Century Fox we'd you know because the show was doing good on MTV so they they let me direct it you know they it was 20th Century Fox. We had, you know, cause the show was doing good on MTV. So they, they let me direct it, you know, they let me do that, which was, um, you know, probably a mistake, but no, they, no, it was, uh, you know, we really pushed it to make it like we were, you know, we were in our 20s, you know? So the, the idea was let's make this the

Starting point is 00:39:58 craziest movie ever made. You know, it's literally, we actually believed that we could do something like that, you know? And, um, and, uh, so it gets complicated because then, you know, how do you define failure? You know, like it's, it came out Roger Ebert and it wasn't Siskel, it was the other guy.

Starting point is 00:40:18 He had another guy there. Oh yeah, the second string. Ebert and Roper. Yeah, Ebert and Roper, they sent that guy in. Yeah, even he didn't like it. He didn't? But even Roper didn't like it. I mean, it wasn't even Siskel, it was Roper, they sent that guy in. Yeah, even he didn't like it. He didn't? Even Roper didn't like it. I mean, it wasn't even Siskel, it was Roper,

Starting point is 00:40:27 whoever that guy was. But it was they trashed it, and you're kinda thinking at the time, man, this is devastating, you know? Ebert and Roper are trashing my film, you know? But, and you think, oh, you start to question every sort of choice you've made, you know? I don't know, this guy looks like he also likes

Starting point is 00:40:44 canned sardines at the same time. And these days, nobody even trusts the critics anyway. So it's kind of funny now that it's like. Yeah, at the time, it was the end of the line if these guys trashed your movie. Oh yeah, I can totally imagine that. It's like my first movie and all this stuff riding on and then these come on just destroyed it.

Starting point is 00:41:05 And I remember just sitting there like watching this and just thinking, oh my gosh, this is it. You know, this is the end. But you know, it wasn't, you know, I just kept going, kept doing my thing and, and you look back at it and go, it's kind of funny now that they, they didn't like it, you know. Yeah, it's kind of awesome that they didn't.

Starting point is 00:41:20 It's weird because there's a weird sort of counter-intuitiveness to it because we set out to make a movie that those guys would not like. And then when they don't like it, you're upset about it. Yeah. It's like a kind of thought that they would

Starting point is 00:41:31 sort of see the irony and go, I know we're not supposed to like this, but actually this kid's pretty clever, you know? No, no, they didn't say that, you know. What was the budget on that movie? Do you remember? $14 million. Wow.

Starting point is 00:41:44 They spent on that. Plus an additional 10 on promotion and marketing and stuff. And you know what? I will say it made it all back on DVD. Remember DVD? Remember they used to put DVDs out? So I think I've heard it made 35 million on DVD. So it actually was a profitable movie.

Starting point is 00:42:01 Made 14 million at the box. I'm here defending it now. It made its money back. No, it looked, I mean. It made his money back. No, it looked like. It made his money back. No, but it did. So it did make its money back. But Ebert and Roper aren't going to tell you that though. They're not going to tell you that. Well, it wasn't the Titanic, you know. No, no, exactly. It was. I mean, it was in a way, but in the sense that it bombed. But no, it was... it's funny,

Starting point is 00:42:25 it's funny though, because. It's cool that you did it though. There was a long period of time there where I was made to feel like it was a really bad decision and then in the last like 10 years, it's like, you know, all I hear are people saying they love it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:39 You know, someone today showed me they had an X-ray cat tattoo, you know, like it's a character in the movie, you know? So it's like, it's, it is a little confusing when you talk about sort of, uh, I mean, your question was how do you handle things like failure and things like that? It's like, you know, it's kind of, uh, the more

Starting point is 00:42:57 of those kinds of things you go through, the more you kind of learn to kind of embrace it in a way. It's kind of, it's almost a good thing, you know? Yeah, David Spitt and I just wrote a movie together, not to name drop or anything, but we did, and we just funded ourselves and stuff,

Starting point is 00:43:12 and so it's just kind of a scary time, I think, so that's why I'm asking that as well. Not scary, it's exciting too, but it's also like, yeah, I just, one day I'll be like, that's something I tried to do. I was trying to be creative, and we tried our best, and I got to try it with, you know, somebody who I love to watch anyway.

Starting point is 00:43:30 Well that's cool, so you've written it, are you gonna go make the movie with him? We have five days left shooting with him. Oh, you're shooting the movie already? We should, we start back tomorrow. Kind of like a Joe Dirt 2, 3 kind of thing? Yeah, it's like, no, it's a good question. It's like two guys, one of them gets hit by a vehicle.

Starting point is 00:43:46 My character gets hit by a car when he's young, and Spade rescues me. He and I become friends then, and he gets me a job. Years later, we're working together at a sewage company. Oh, nice. Like a repo man kind of thing. Yeah, type of shit. Well, you know, the thing is that you're in good hands here

Starting point is 00:44:05 because you're with a guy that's done this a lot before. Right, he's done it a lot. And is sort of a seasoned. If I had to direct it too, I like to like chime in with the director and stuff like that and throw in ideas and stuff like that. And, but it's just definitely a big learning curve. It's a lot.

Starting point is 00:44:21 So I can't imagine, especially in our budget, it's just a couple million bucks. So if it were really big, that'd be really, I feel like it'd be scary kinda. Yeah, I mean back then we were shooting on film. Oh yeah. Things cost more. It was, at the time, was considered a low budget movie,

Starting point is 00:44:36 right, but I think that, I don't know, it just seems like the way things get released these days and the ways people embrace weirdness these days, like I'm assuming it's kind of a weird movie. Yeah, it's odd. Yeah, just funny. It's just like old school funny. Yeah. So like a funny movie, right? Like, you know, you have this incredible thing going with your show here. So you have your audience built in. So you don't really have to worry about the same things that maybe back in the day when

Starting point is 00:45:12 you put out something crazy and sort of in a sea of somewhat normal movies coming out every weekend, all getting funneled through this sort of mainstream, you know, cinema, you know, release conglomerate. Yeah. It's very strange, you know, cinema, you know, release system. Right, this conglomerate, yeah. It's very strange, you know. Like we had to take the movie and focus group it.

Starting point is 00:45:31 Oh wow. And then people would sit there with pads and it was in Phoenix. We flew down to Phoenix to focus group Freddy Got Fingers. That's where they do a lot of them, huh? Yeah, yeah. For some reason they do them there in Phoenix. And you know, and like, you know,

Starting point is 00:45:44 then someone stands up after the movie and asks them what, what they didn't like about the movie. Well, with, you know, Freddie got fingered. I mean, we're sort of, you're sort of supposed to not like any of these scenes. You're supposed to be, you know, kind of polarizing.

Starting point is 00:45:56 Yes. So it didn't really kind of work with the focus group system and then you had to make changes to it and all that kind of stuff. But you're probably, you guys probably have a lot more creative control over things now. I think we'll just make a trailer and put it out. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm guessing, I have no idea. I'm just, part of my brain hasn't even gotten to that thought yet, you know? That's exciting. But it definitely feels kind of, yeah, it feels like just like, well, I wanted, we tried to do it, who knows what'll happen, you know? Oh, it's gonna be awesome.

Starting point is 00:46:26 Absolutely. You and Spade, I'm gonna go see that. That's incredible. Well, thanks. I appreciate it, man. Everybody will. Everybody's gonna love that. It's gonna be interesting. Yeah. That's what I'll say.

Starting point is 00:46:35 That's what I do. Yeah, I do believe that it'll be interesting. Of course it will. How did you deal, whenever there were tough times, like, because you had so much of like recording yourself, like setting, you know, like kind of like living under your own recording schedule and stuff like that. Were there days off, like when you would just have your show from home, right? Was there days where you would just like take off? What was that shoot schedule like when you were?

Starting point is 00:46:58 When I was doing the web show at home? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was, so there wasn't really sort of a podcasting yet, wasn't really a thing really, right? So, so we built the studio and it would basically just stream to my website. I mean, there was no Instagram yet. YouTube had just started and people would come

Starting point is 00:47:24 and watch it on the front page of tomgreen.com. And we actually had like a company in San Francisco that made like the video playback system, you know, so it was CDN, content distribution network was basically, so we would upload a video to that. We weren't uploading it to YouTube and linking it or there was no YouTube really.

Starting point is 00:47:44 So it was kind of just a big sort of science uploading it to YouTube and linking it or there was no YouTube really. So it was kind of just a big sort of science experiment that I was doing with my group of friends. And I had the sort of goal of trying to sort of make it a show that would become profitable, get advertisers and maybe sell it to television, which we did a little bit of that, you know. So, you know, it was kind of pretty driven, I guess.

Starting point is 00:48:17 And it's kind of what I notice now with like podcasting, which is amazing is like, you know, the people that have these incredible businesses that they've got going, these incredible, you know, artistic visions they have for themselves. They're all kind of have that same kind of drive in them, you know, they get up in the morning, their mind is just like, how are we going to

Starting point is 00:48:37 make this better today? You know, how are we going to make this awesome today, you know? So it was kind of, it was kind of like that, you know, we were getting up and turning on the studio every night and I'd be inviting up rappers and 2 Short came up and Jurassic 5 and Exhibit and then you wrap up comedian,

Starting point is 00:48:57 invite comedians up and like Joe Rogan would come over and Norm MacDonald who I became good friends with would start coming over all the time and, you know, literally like hundreds and hundreds of people would come over and it became this kind of really fun thing to do. Um, I wasn't doing standup at the time. I hadn't done standup in years, so I was really

Starting point is 00:49:19 just doing that. And, um, you know, it was, it was ridiculous. I mean, we were just enjoying the absurdity of it and. Oh yeah. Was it so stressful or were you just. It was because I put pressure on myself and I

Starting point is 00:49:35 would actually get stressed out about it. And then we would have people that would prank call us. So I had this phone system on the desk and you could just call it and it would ring and I'd hit answer and so we had like, you know, people trolling us basically. I remember getting Rick rolled for the first time, you know, and I was like, oh, I've kind of felt like, I don't know if I'd ever heard of Rick rolling before I got Rick rolled, you know? Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:49:58 And it became kind of like a little bit of a game, you know, like where we were. There was a switch that I built with Bill Snitzer was his name, he worked there and Victor, a couple of the guys that worked there. And we built the switch under the desk. It was like metal and it was like, we got a metal box with a switch and we had wires and we soldered them together and then the wires ran out to the computer and then Bill was able to program the

Starting point is 00:50:28 computer so that when like I flipped that switch, it would, like if, if everything was off, it's the middle of the night in my house, it's quiet night, nobody there. And if I were to get up at one o'clock in the morning by myself and put clown makeup on, which I often did and a top hat and walk out into my living room and flick the switch, the switch would turn on the lights, would turn on the cameras,

Starting point is 00:50:55 would turn on the computers. This computer would tell this computer to start recording. The phone system would turn on. It would send it to the front page of my website. Just one switch. I haven't done anything. Just all I've, all I've done is put on some clown makeup and flipped a switch, right?

Starting point is 00:51:09 You don't have to put on the clown makeup, but I did do that often. Oh yeah, you better. It was called the French clown of midnight. He'd speak in French, in clown makeup. Um, and you wonder why it didn't work out, but, um, and, uh, but, uh, and, uh, then the phone would start ringing and I'd just be doing

Starting point is 00:51:22 the show, I'd have a switcher on the desk so I could switch the cameras and, uh and I'd just be doing the show. I'd have a switcher on the desk so I could switch the cameras and I would just start taking calls and it was really the only live video on the internet. Like really, like that's, there was no Instagram live or anything. So it was like, you imagine when I was a kid, I wanted to do, I like prank calling the radio

Starting point is 00:51:41 station. I like to call into the radio station and, uh, I would call into the radio station and I'd record it and then I'd call into the radio station and I'd pretend I was like my friend's father and I'd call in, I'd start complaining about my son and I'd use his name and I'd play the tape back to him and it was hilarious to me,

Starting point is 00:51:58 you know? And, um, so I loved that, like pranking a radio station and I kind of started to realize like we're the only live show on the internet right now with a phone with no call screener. All these people like me around the world could now call in and prank me, you know? And so we kind of got into this little sort of war basically, you know, which is, which was fun because I would get angry about it, but then also I kind of didn't have to turn

Starting point is 00:52:33 the phone on. Right, right, right. You know, you know? Um, so it was, it was, it was really fun. And, you know, I got to meet a lot of great people, you know, I mean, that's where I really got to hang out with, you know, Joe Rogan for the first time really, and, uh, and know, I mean, that's where I really got to hang out with, you know, Joe Rogan for the first time really, and Norm, who

Starting point is 00:52:48 I became really close with and so many other people and it was amazing. So. Did Norm, did you talk to him much in the later years? Yeah. Well, at the very end, I did not know that he was sick. I didn't know he was sick. So that was, that was.

Starting point is 00:53:04 It seemed like he kept that from everybody. Yeah. And he's from my hometown. He's from Ottawa, Canada. And he started at the same comedy club that I started at, at Yuck Yucks in Ottawa. Howard Wagman, who's the, still owns the comedy club in Ottawa.

Starting point is 00:53:19 Yuck Yucks, which is like all across Canada. It's kind of like the improv of Canada. Oh yeah, I've heard of it. I've been to one of them, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So he's, you is like all across Canada. It's kind of like the improv of Canada. Oh yeah, I've heard of it. I've been to one of them, I think. Yeah, yeah. So he's, you know, he's awesome and you know, he, you know, he put Norm on the stage for the first time and, uh, you know, tells his

Starting point is 00:53:32 story about how Norm got off stage the very first time he did stand up. He was in his twenties and he didn't think he did well and he was walking down the street. I'm never going to do that again. And Howard chased him down Spark Street in Ottawa and stopped and said, you gotta come back tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:53:44 And you know, you made him come back cause he saw, stopped and said, you gotta come back tomorrow. And you know, you made him come back because he saw his genius, right? He and nobody was like him. They just had a, they were just talking about him, I just watched the SNL monologue that he did one time. That was pretty great where he's like, they fired me from the show, but now they want me back.

Starting point is 00:54:01 You know? Yeah. Which is, and how it just didn't even make any, make any sense and you just kind of shit on the show. Yeah. Um, it was weird like, cause like, it's weird. Like I find myself sometimes now talking about 2005, like it was like 50 years ago or something like that, but it really is, things have changed

Starting point is 00:54:20 so much in the last 20 years with social media that it does really feel like kind of a different world. Like I remember Norm would come up and you know, the first time he came up, I just couldn't believe I was going to hang out with him, you know. Yeah. And hang out with him for two hours on camera,

Starting point is 00:54:40 um, sort of in some ways kind of doing a make believe talk show, even though there were people watching, it was kind of like, you know, experimental talk show and he was getting into that and then the show would end and we'd go, you know, on YouTube and go look at videos. And I was like, I remember it was like YouTube was so new that it was just the strangest thing.

Starting point is 00:55:04 I'd be sitting with Norm MacDonald after doing this for two hours and we'd sit in there watching, you know, crazy clips that he would find, you know, like baby versus Cobra, you know, with the Cobra's mouth sewed together. Those are good, yeah. Grape lady falls. I remember watching these videos with Norm and

Starting point is 00:55:23 just dying of laughter, you know, in the middle of the night just thinking this is cool. Now it's just so normal to look at viral videos and stuff. Back then we thought we were just... Have you ever seen this video? I've never seen this. Oh man, this is... I mean it's a little bit...

Starting point is 00:55:36 You kind of... Can you play the audio too? Is it possible? Because the audio is sort of important for this one. These are filled with Shamberson grapes and the winner this Saturday who's Stump Music, for this one. Oh, I can't, ow, ow, ow, ow, stop, oh, stop, oh, oh, I can't breathe, stop. Oh, oh, oh. No.

Starting point is 00:56:13 So, yeah, yeah, ouch, ouch. They're struggling not to let me hear. I hope she was okay. And that lady has the smallest head as well. If people's heads are real small, they should not talk a lot. I love that that's your takeaway from this, is that her head size as well. It is true though, by the way, I'd never noticed that. That lady is a very small head. When people with small heads

Starting point is 00:56:34 talk a lot, it feels like they're cheating the system a little bit. I just feel like a regular head, you get a regular amount of words. Small head, less words, don't do too much. Or at least just talk in sort of the amount of words that your head should justify, your head size should justify. Don't be a crazy little head just doing a bunch. I dated a girl one time for a while with a small head, beautiful girl, great girl,

Starting point is 00:57:04 but knew when to talk, when not to talk. You wouldn't see her just yammering on like some big head. Yeah. You know? So I walk in. Did you notice right away that she had this particularly small head, or was that something that sort of dawned on you later?

Starting point is 00:57:18 She had big hair, big, kind of Italian-ish hair, and every now and then I would feel her head, and I was like, oh, I feel like there should be a little more head here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So once you got under that, the hair was puffed out, probably purposefully, we probably knew that her head was small, so we should've masked it.

Starting point is 00:57:33 It was a mirage. Yeah, hiding it a little bit. Yeah, and you'd see. Probably a little self-conscious of it. Yeah, could've been. But yeah, cool girl, small head, but knew how to use it. Right?

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Starting point is 00:59:38 Oh yeah, I just went to the SNL 50. Oh yeah, that's amazing, yeah I know. Was that incredible? It was cool, you got to host it. I did, I know, that's amazing. I was on tour, I wasn have been, was that incredible? It was cool. You got to host it. I did. I know. That's amazing. I was on tour. I wasn't able to go. I would have loved to have gone to that. That must have been wild. I went to the 40th and I remember that was, that is just the most surreal thing. If it's anything, I imagine it was like just everybody is there, right? Yeah. I'll get to go to the music night and then

Starting point is 01:00:07 I'm buddies with Louis CK. He took me to Chris Rock's birthday party. Oh nice on Saturday night, which was crazy because Chris Rock is always like my favorite comedian growing up and um So just even be able to be there. I definitely felt like out of place where everybody was also cool You know just to like you know kind of fly on the wall. So did you do really actually feel out of place there? Yeah, 100%. And why do you think that is? Just like, it feels like kind of fancy, you know? I mean, I could tell right when I saw Chris Rock

Starting point is 01:00:34 how I felt, like, some people, you don't get nervous when you've seen him a couple times, and so there becomes a little bit ambiance, you know? But I just didn't know him. And so, yeah, I think that created some of the nervous energy. Some other people I did know, so it wasn't that bad, but I got introduced to people that I didn't know.

Starting point is 01:00:53 And so you're always like, I don't know, I don't usually say a lot then. I'll kind of just be a listener. Yeah. You know? See, I get like that too, and I wish I didn't. This sort of social anxiety when you're in an environment like that, where there's just all these, you know, people that you admire and respect

Starting point is 01:01:11 and are around you and everybody, it's kind of, I kind of don't even feel like myself. You know, it's a sort of a very stressful thing for me. Yeah. So in some ways I was kind of. That's a good word. It's stressful. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know why that is. Why is that?

Starting point is 01:01:24 Well, I think it's because you're a little bit, and I don't know why that is. Why is that? Well, I think it's because you're a little bit probably, I don't know how I fit in this circle. There's a lot of circles in the world where I get it. But you're on top of the world right now. You just interviewed the president in the United States. I mean, everybody, you've got this incredible show. I mean, I'm sure everybody was super excited

Starting point is 01:01:39 to see you there, so you probably don't really have any reason to feel nervous, but you still do, right? Yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah, I just didn didn't know I hadn't been in that circle before it's kind of like I guess when you're in a I don't know when you're in just feel like you're in a new water. You're figuring out the temperature You don't know, you know, you want to make a lot of noise at somebody's birthday party They are seeing friends that they know it's not a huge group of people So you just want to kinda, you know, you don't wanna overstay your welcome,

Starting point is 01:02:08 you know, kind of type of energy, you know? I don't need to tell a big story. They all, they know each other. I'm just happy to be here, happy to be able to see somebody celebrate their birthday, to witness people that I admire from a little bit of a way, you know, from a little closer than I'm usually allowed to get to them,

Starting point is 01:02:26 online or on TV, I guess. But the SNL thing was, we went to the music, they had a music show. Radio City. Yeah. And that's the part that I got to go to, and that was pretty cool. Just seeing different bands, Jelly Roll performed, and so I know him.

Starting point is 01:02:41 Nice. And so there was, yeah, and I got to bring a friend, and so I knew my buddy was, you know, we were just kind of milling around, running into some people that we knew and meeting some new people, but it was pretty chill. So when you went to the, you went to the inauguration too, right?

Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah, I went to the inauguration. Yeah. So like when you go to the inauguration and you've already, now you know the president of the United States, cause you'd had this interview with him. Yeah. Like you could kind of hang out with him at the inauguration or?

Starting point is 01:03:07 No, no. I didn't see any of them. I was in like the second tier of humans there or something, you know? Like, there was a first tier, and then I was in like this second tier of humans that were there. But that's got to be kind of still interesting nonetheless to be there. Oh, it was interesting, very interesting, because I never, you don't even even know if the process is real. You see it on TV, it's like, who knows if that shit's real?

Starting point is 01:03:30 Who knows if it's real anymore? So to witness that was pretty cool. Just to be in Washington, DC is always pretty neat, just with all the architecture. But I don't know Trump like that. Like, I'll message with his daughter sometimes, Ivanka. So I'm able to communicate with her and then what do you guys talk about? She'll just send me a book that she thinks I would like really we went to dinner one time. She's so smart Yeah, okay. It's mind-blowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Starting point is 01:03:56 And so go to dinner with her a lot or no only went once I'm pretty cool was was her husband Jared there or was it just you two? He was and it was other friends of hers. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to break any news here, but it sounds interesting. Not at all.

Starting point is 01:04:11 I wish there were news to break, dude. She's stunning. She's awesome. And then there's like a middleman who worked with the, I guess, I guess he worked with the Republican Party, and he got to invite some people. So it was just a motley group of strange people that went to the inauguration.

Starting point is 01:04:28 So how did that work? So can I ask you questions? Yeah, sure. So when he came on your show, right? It was right before the election and he was doing a lot of podcasts and stuff. Did they approach you or did they call you? His son is a fan of your show, right?

Starting point is 01:04:42 Is that what it is, Barron? Yeah, that's what he said. He said Barron was a fan of the show and I tried to get to see Barron, but I didn't get to meet him. So he just got a call one day and Trump wanted to come on the show? Well, I'd seen, I'd met Trump a couple times at UFC.

Starting point is 01:04:54 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. UFC, I think, had everything to do with winning the election, probably, for the Republicans. Yeah, yeah. Because Dana White is just such a facilitator. He just gets things done. He kept his sport going while all the other sports were shut down.

Starting point is 01:05:12 A lot of them were shut down or having to practice really intense methods during COVID. You know, he was able to keep his sport going. And so he brought Trump to a lot of his events because they've been friends for a long time. And so I'd met him there a couple of times. And then I knew his brother died of alcoholism. So I was like, well, let me call him

Starting point is 01:05:31 and let me ask Dana if Trump would ever talk about his brother. I didn't know about it, you know? And just to see what he's like. Like, is he just all a business guy? Does he think about other things? Because when you're, you don't get a lot of, you don't hear a lot about his feelings, Trump's feelings. And if you do, he doesn't communicate

Starting point is 01:05:50 it in a way where it's very emotional to people. I don't feel like, right? So I was just curious about that. So yeah, I called up Dana and he said, we'll make it happen, you know? And then two days later he called back and he said, all good. Somebody from his group is going to reach out to you. So you went to him to him right and we went to him up in New Jersey yeah and we offer we would have we would have loved to had Harris and walls on we're still trying to get walls on we try to get Harris on even after the election but they just didn't want to come yeah and so it's kind of a bummer you know cuz I think seems like that was a pretty big mistake they didn't do

Starting point is 01:06:21 didn't go on a lot of the shows that yeah, I think it would just let them be more normal Mm-hmm. I think people are if something's too much behind the glass these days people don't trust the glass I don't even think it's they don't that they don't trust the person behind the glass I think you just don't trust the fucking glass if that makes any sense, but Yeah, no it does. Yeah, so I guess that was all kind of interesting I'm kind of out of sorts with the way that they're handling like the Gaza Palestine stuff. Like that shit really I think is insane to me, you know, but that's just, you know, you know, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:06:54 That's just my thoughts. It's kind of a endless sort of, you know, quagmire you can find yourself in once you start talking politics. When you get into politics. I agree. In this world we're living in now because it's like, you know, you go on the road, you do stand up all around the country and you know, everybody's sort of divided in a way,

Starting point is 01:07:17 right? And then you start sort of firmly choosing aside and all of a sudden half the audience doesn't want to have any fun anymore, right? So it's kind of like you got to be doesn't want to have any fun anymore. Right. So it's kind of like you got to be, find we got to make these choices now, like, okay, well, do I, do I want to give my opinion anymore about

Starting point is 01:07:33 what's going on in the world? Uh, you know, and then, you know, you have to choose one of the, you know, set of opinions that are on this side or the set of opinions that are all evenly and neatly put on this side and as soon as you state your opinion about one of these issues that just happens to be on this side then anybody that doesn't agree with you no longer you know wants to wants to fuck with you and come to your show or have a good time or have a laugh with you You know, so it's just such a shitty thing to have to deal with that, right? Yeah

Starting point is 01:08:01 So how do you how do you kind of like, uh, you know, juggle that, you know? Cause you know, as Canadian, you know, like it's like right now in Canada, people are pretty upset, you know, with, uh, you know, with Donald Trump because he's putting these tariffs on Canada, right? And saying they're going to make us a 51st state.

Starting point is 01:08:17 Saying they're going to annex Canada. People aren't too happy about the idea of, you know, being taken over by the United States of America, doesn't it? It's not something that people are super excited about hearing, you know, being taken over by the United States of America, doesn't it? It's not something that people are super excited about hearing, you know? So, you know, you kind of, you kind of go, it's funny cause I, sometimes I think like,

Starting point is 01:08:32 well, I think a lot of Americans who aren't, don't think about it that much might think like, oh, Canada is going to be the 51st state. I bet you everyone in Canada must be really excited about being the 51st state of the United States, but you know, I'm kind of saying, well, no, it'll probably be the first state in America that nobody in it wants to be America. You know?

Starting point is 01:08:51 So, uh, so, cause you know, we've, we've got our own country. It's not that we don't, don't love America. I love America, but we know we sort of have our, our, our entire different culture. You know, you go to Canada all the time, right? Yeah, I love it. And I'm glad it's Canada.

Starting point is 01:09:03 We're different, right? It's a different thing. Yeah, it's different. You're nice to have, you know, you go to Canada all the time, right? Yeah, I love it. And I'm glad it's Canada. We're different, right? It's a different thing. Yeah, it's different. You're nice to a, you know, people will be... Somebody will walk across the street in Canada and just come tell you they're sorry and then go back across the street and then nothing even happened. They're not even... Yeah, they just came off just to apologize. Yeah, there's no even... You've never seen them before, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:23 But Canada's the best. I think Canada gives me hope for humanity a lot of times. It's good people, you know? Like, I love Canada. I wish that, there's times I've wanted to be Canadian even. What's, do you remember the first time you went to Canada? Yeah, Vancouver. Yeah, and was that somewhat recently? Brothel or hostel, I slept in a hostel.

Starting point is 01:09:46 Okay, yeah, yeah. How many years ago would that have been? That was probably 18 years ago. It was great, man. Had a great time. Were you doing stand-up there? I hadn't started. I just almost started stand-up. I was doing, I was traveling. I was left out of there on a school, floating university. I left out of Vancouver called Semester at Sea. And it went around the globe and we left out of Vancouver. But I went up to Whistler, I went and caught a ride. Some guy took me hitchhiking up to Whistler, right? Drove me up there. And the guy who drove me, he was a caretaker for Superman.

Starting point is 01:10:20 Who had died, remember Superman who got in the wheelchair? Yeah, Christopher Reeves. Christopher Reeves, he was his caretaker. Okay. Okay this guy Michael and I think I met him I was at some shop right around there and He was saying he was in the area something He's like I'm taking the drive up to Whistler. I was like, oh, can I roll with you?

Starting point is 01:10:38 He's like, yeah, so he took me up to Whistler man brought me back. We stopped along the way one on some hikes and stuff Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, I've always Canada. I used to have a dream that I would meet a wife in Toronto. Yeah. But I went and did two weeks of comedy up there, didn't meet any wines. Yeah, yeah. Well, it could still happen for sure. It could still happen. Yeah. You find the audiences react differently. They're great. Halifax was one of my favorite shows I've ever had in my life.

Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah, yeah. Dude, I even made, my little nephew made up this joke. He said, oh, I told it on stage, I was like, yeah, I heard one time that there wasn't any more fish up here. And so they changed the name to No Fish Scotia. And nobody laughed, right? Yeah, sure, sure. It was fucking fun.

Starting point is 01:11:26 That's why I'm laughing because I can imagine the reaction. Sometimes there's something great when they don't laugh. Oh sure. There's some little thing in there. It's like, oh that's pretty good. Yeah, absolutely. You know? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:38 But yeah, always had a great love for Canada. I think it's bizarre that Trump would say something like that and it's also like it just But what do you expect out of him? You know and what do you expect about the media to spotlight things and make it? Whatever it is even if it's a seed of something to grow it into a million plants, you know, yeah No, it's it's interesting I think you know, there's a thing that's going on the hockey games in Canada now where the USA in Canada playing and you know Yeah, the four nations right? Yeah, the know. Yeah, the four nations, right?

Starting point is 01:12:06 Yeah, the Canadian fans were booing the anthem, right? And you know, sometimes I go like, well, I don't, you know, based on the reaction on social media, I sort of feel like maybe not everybody in the US necessarily understands why that's happening. You know, they don't know it's about the

Starting point is 01:12:21 tariffs, you know, they're not booing the national anthem, they're booing this, the fact that these tariffs are being put on, you know, they don't know it's about the tariffs, you know, they're not booing the national anthem, they're booing this, the fact that these tariffs are being put on, you know, which is going to, of course, devastate, you know, the economy on both sides will suffer from that, right? I'm sitting here like talking about it, like I know about it, you know.

Starting point is 01:12:35 I should probably know more about it. But it's like, it's like, you know, I think, I think people are just kind of like, why are you guys doing this to us, you know? So that's, it's kind of a, it's kind of an interesting thing, but you know, you want to talk about issues sometimes and then you go, okay, I've just waded into this sort of

Starting point is 01:12:51 hornet's nest and I'm never going to hear the end of it. So it's a, it's, it is interesting. What was it, when you're at the inauguration, after the inauguration, where you're like kind of just, are you kind of, who were you hanging out with there? I went, who did I meet? I met this kid, Alexander Wang,

Starting point is 01:13:10 we just had a podcast episode with him. He created this company called Scale AI. He's like this AI. He's the youngest billionaire ever, this Chinese kid. Oh my gosh. From New Mexico. Wow. Fascinating dude.

Starting point is 01:13:24 Self-made billionaire. Self-made billionaire. Self-made billionaire. Yeah. So I ended up having lunch with him. That was probably the neatest thing that happened that weekend. Did he pick up the tab or? I think I paid actually.

Starting point is 01:13:33 You paid? I didn't know he was a billionaire. Oh my gosh, yeah. I was just happy. That's why he's a billionaire. Just letting everyone else pick up the tab. I was just happy to be dining with the Chinese, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

Starting point is 01:13:43 Oh, it was great man and um and then who else something else happened at night oh I saw Wayne Gretzky who lost his tooth wow and then anything I saw Joe Rogan for a few minutes I saw Tony Hinchcliffe from Kill Tony yeah and then that was kind of it and then I went home it was too much like too hard to get around mm-hmm I saw Lex Friedman that was pretty neat I'd never met him. He's a podcaster. Yeah. I've met him at the mothership before. Oh, nice. Yeah. So it was just, that was kind of, those were some of the neat parts of it.

Starting point is 01:14:12 Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Just getting to see some different folks. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're having issues even in America. They're having, I just saw that there's a part of Oregon that wanted to secede from Oregon. Yeah. They're going to become Canada's 11th province. Yeah, good. I would love it if we started trading pieces of our country.

Starting point is 01:14:30 Start trading. Now that I'm totally for. New York and California come join Canada and. Take one of them. You guys can, you know, take, I'm not going to say who you guys can take, but you know, cause we, but. Oh, I knew you were talking about, dude.

Starting point is 01:14:42 We've got to be political. Sacrebleu. Okay. That's all I'll say,. No just me in Quebec actually je parle français. I lived in Quebec a lot in my life. You did? Yeah so I grew up in Quebec so I love Quebec yeah yeah you must have been up the Montreal festival over the years or yeah we went there a couple times I love Quebec it's fun yeah Ed and Mitch we got some of the places we went to. Calgary and Ottawa and Winnipeg we're gonna go to this year.

Starting point is 01:15:07 Oh yeah, so when you're in Ottawa, maybe if you're rolling past the farm and the tour bus, come by the farm and we'll go ride some mules or something. How far outside of town are you guys? About like an hour or so. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, so sort of not too far, you know. I'll come pick you up in my pickup truck,

Starting point is 01:15:24 we'll go hang out. Do you think you'll have, now that you're kind of feeling settled out there, do you start thinking about starting a family or no? Yeah, definitely. I'm getting married, so, you know, knock on wood. Everything goes well with that. And maybe it'll be some,

Starting point is 01:15:42 we'll see, we'll have to ask my fiance. Oh yeah. I think she would wanna do that. Yeah, you gotta include her. Yeah. Yes, yes, yeah, for sure. No, I think that's a possibility for sure. For a while, did you think that that wasn't gonna be

Starting point is 01:15:55 a part of your life? I was starting to question whether or not it was going to be part of my life, because I mean, I think you kind of alluded to this earlier, you know, you, you, you know, you, you want to, you know, if you're going to get married, you want to get married to somebody that you, you know, love and actually

Starting point is 01:16:16 think that this could, you know, last forever. Right. I was starting to question whether or not that was maybe possible, you know, I wasn't sure if that was possible anymore to find somebody that I or not that was maybe possible. You know, I wasn't sure if that was possible anymore to find somebody that I thought would last forever with. But you know, when I met Amanda, she's outside

Starting point is 01:16:29 and hope I'm getting some brownie points here, but I realized this is, this is the one, you know, so. Wow. So, but it's, uh, you know, until you meet that person, you know, it does start to feel kind of like, uh, Jesus getting a little kind of, uh, you know, uncertain here.

Starting point is 01:16:44 Yeah, like I was loitering. Yeah, yeah. So, but, um. Yeah, like I'm slaughtering. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that's how I think about it. Because I think when you're younger, you have this feeling of this young love energy type of thing. And that starts to, it feels, that feels less possible the older we get, kind of. It just starts to dissipate.

Starting point is 01:17:00 Or it's like, oh, well, I'm too wise now. Or I've had too much experience now that I'm never gonna have that sort of like whimsical feeling of like you know that a 17 year old or a 23 year old would have you know but it's nice to know that that can kind of sneak up and surprise you you know yeah I think kind of I mean I think being home where I'm from helped, you know, because it's like, I don't know, I mean if you're not from Los Angeles then it's kind of a weird place. If you're from Los Angeles it's normal, but if you're not from Los Angeles, you know,

Starting point is 01:17:39 it's kind of a weird place. So you know, you're here probably focused on your career and your work and so many other people are, it's kind of hard to, I think, find a, you know, a good, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it seems like it is kind of harder in this environment to find somebody that you can, I mean, I don't know, are people watching going, are we going to be taking

Starting point is 01:18:02 relationship advice from me? I don't know, I don't know if that's. No, it does make me think that I think there's this feeling in LA that if you meet somebody, you're gonna have to eventually get them to leave here. I've always felt that thing, like, well, if I met somebody, would they ever leave here with me? Because I'm not gonna stay here forever.

Starting point is 01:18:20 Right, that's exactly what I was trying to say. So that I think is a, yeah, I think that's totally common. Have you got a move? But you said you don't live here full-time now? I live in Tennessee. I moved during the pandemic too. In Nashville? Yeah. Oh, cool. I moved during the pandemic.

Starting point is 01:18:35 Whenever Trump was talking about Canada, what was, can you bring it up, Nick? So I just want to know what he even was saying. Like, what were they threatening? They were threatening the tariff Canadian goods, just so our listeners can know what exactly was even going on. Yeah. They're going to put a tariff on every, you know, Canada is the largest trading partner of the United States.

Starting point is 01:18:57 Nice. And so, so much of the goods that come into the United States from Canada are you, are being brought in by American businesses to like wood. You bring wood and lumber in to build houses, right? So when you put 25% tariff on lumber, that means everybody that… Flannel.

Starting point is 01:19:15 Flannel. If you're a big flannel company making flannel pajamas, all of a sudden flannel pajamas are going to be 25% more expensive. So it's really it's going to affect businesses businesses on both sides of the border obviously not just Canada but also everything will go up in price. So you know and I'm not exactly sure the reason for it to be honest with you. He was really saying they weren't helping out with border security. Yeah. And that's what yeah, which is 30 days Probation period they did put a bunch of people at the border. Absolutely. And now it's I don't think there's a real

Starting point is 01:19:53 border security problem between Canada and the United States though, it's You know, it's but that's the hardest country to get into in the world. I think is Canada. Yeah, I mean it's it's Going that way there isn't that's for sure. Yeah, it's You know the claim that there's fentanyl coming into the United States from Canada I think is a little bit exaggerated because I don't really think that that's actually the case something like You know a very small amount is coming in from Canada. So tariffs are a central part of Trump's economic plans He promised to introduce import duties against some of America's main trade partners during his election campaign He said tariffs will boost us manufacturing and protect jobs as well as raising tax revenue and growing the economy

Starting point is 01:20:33 Fentanyl is linked to tens of thousands of overdose deaths Taking bold action to hold Mexico, Canada and China Accountable to their promise of halting illegal immigration and stopping poisonous fentanyl and other drugs from flowing in our country. It just seems kind of vague. Yeah, I think it's sort of like a... But like, what would you do? Like, I'm trying to see, say if you bring a bunch of stuff into my country, right?

Starting point is 01:20:56 Say if you and I live in different countries and you bring a bunch of stuff into my country or I bring a bunch of stuff into your country. And then you say, okay, I'm gonna tax that more, I'm gonna charge you more to bring that in if you don't help stop the fentanyl that's coming in I just I don't know how would you then do that what would you then on your side would you say okay we'll put more what drug dogs and security I think that's what they're I think that's what he's asking them to do I you

Starting point is 01:21:20 know and I think we already do have again I'm, again, I'm not a representative of the Canadian government, but I do think that we already do have a lot of, there's only so much you can do to seal off a border, right? And I don't think there is that much fentanyl coming in from Canada, really. I'd never heard that that was a thing before. Yeah, I think it mostly does come in from the southern border. From the southern border, that's what I would think. I wonder if maybe that you guys got grandfathered into guys got grandfathered into some late night Trump rhetoric there.

Starting point is 01:21:49 It feels a little bit like that, but hopefully it'll resolve itself. I do think that it's probably going to end up causing a lot of economic problems on both sides of the border and probably they may not go for it. Sports exciting for a while though. Yeah, exactly. That's a not go for it. But you know. Sports exciting for a while though. Yeah, exactly. That's a side effect. It was a good fight right off the top of the game the other day, you know, it was pretty cool.

Starting point is 01:22:11 We like a good hockey fight, so that's cool. And it is nice when countries sometimes don't get along a little bit in sports, right? I've always admired that. Yeah. That's one thing I don't like about the NBA anymore, that all the players, it seems like they all know each other, nobody's really playing for their squad sometimes.

Starting point is 01:22:24 Okay. So I like a little bit more of that animosity. Even more fights in the NBA. Physical fights. Yeah, look at that. Oh, definitely. I believe both those players are American too. I'm not sure how quickly your researcher can tell us that.

Starting point is 01:22:37 But even though the Canadian team... Canada didn't get the win in this game. I know that. Maybe that's not true at all, what I just said. But... I don't think Canada got the win in this game. I know that. Maybe that's not true at all what I just said, but. But. I hope Canada got the win in this game. But that's okay. Yeah, we lost the game, absolutely,

Starting point is 01:22:51 which is really kind of. I know. But it is nice to see everybody having a good time watching a hockey fight, for sure. Yeah. Absolutely, you know, so. What else did I see in the news that I just saw was happening?

Starting point is 01:23:02 Oh yeah, it was that contraception begins at erection now So there's a law that they're pushing Ohio Democratic lawmakers proposed con conception begins at erection. Okay, okay Yeah, they're trying to put it on the men a little bit more So what exactly are they gonna do about this now? Well a new bill in Ohio would make it a crime for men who ejaculate without intending to have a baby Oh, wow, that is that's definitely something that I could see a lot of people probably would be guilty of for sure. Hey, shoot or shoot, you know? Yeah, yeah, I could see that being, I mean, I don't want to get into too much personal detail,

Starting point is 01:23:38 but I think I'd probably be locked up for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we're going to visit Tom this weekend again. Yeah. He's behind bars. Yeah, my gosh. I thought he was going to get paroled. Plenty of time to break the law in jail though. And they put a monitor like wraps around your weiner.

Starting point is 01:23:58 And it just like, if it, it just goes off if it gets too hard. Now, I'm assuming this is a parody site, but the world's so crazy right now that I'm actually asking this for real. Is this a real article? This is a real article right there. What? Yep, let's zoom in on. I'm gonna read it a little bit. Okay, so this is not The Onion or something like that or Mad Magazine or something? No, this is one of those good radishes that they have out there.

Starting point is 01:24:20 Conception begins, and it rhymes nicely too, conception begins at erection act. I mean that it's a nice rhyme to it, which is also nice. Conception begins, and it rhymes nicely too, conception begins at erection act. I mean, it's a nice rhyme to it, which is also nice. If you're gonna penalize someone for an unwanted pregnancy, why not penalize the person who is also responsible for the pregnancy? Now, I can't say I don't agree with this. It's like, then you're gonna have a lot more people.

Starting point is 01:24:40 $10,000 per discharge. Ooh. But here's the thing, Some people are just running around, skeeting or whatever they call it. And I don't know what they call it in different countries, but they're not going to have an extra 10K on them. You're going to have, the court system would

Starting point is 01:24:56 be filled with every, every kid in the world, every 14 year old kid. Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming, yeah. Does this, I don't, I don't know how much I want to talk about this in detail. No, mean, I'm assuming, yeah, does this, I don't, I don't know how much I want to talk about this in detail. No, look, I'm going to say, you don't get

Starting point is 01:25:09 pregnant on your own. Representative Anita Somani, um, Democrat Dublin said. A felony for men to discharge semen. Yep. Without the intent to fertilize. That is. Wow. An amazing, amazing idea.

Starting point is 01:25:27 I mean, I actually would love to see that sort of applied that law just to see what would happen. I mean, it would be interesting to see what would happen. It's genital communism in a way, I guess. It's genital communism. Is it? Absolutely. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:41 Absolutely. She introduced legislation that would make it a felony to discharge semen without the intent to fertilize. So, Monty and State Representative Tristan Rader joined forces to propose a bill nicknamed Conception Begins the Direction. There are some exceptions, such as when protection or contraceptions are used during sex. It also wouldn't apply when an individual is masturbating.

Starting point is 01:26:00 Oh, OK. Donating sperm or if the relief. Yeah. Or if the intercourse has taken place between members of the LGBT plus community and this doesn't produce ova. So gay people would be able to just jerk off on each other and they don't suffer any of the consequences. I have to read it again. But if a couple of straights get caught, you know, discharging... This is unfair on so many levels. Well, it's just, it's beyond ridiculous what's going on here.

Starting point is 01:26:30 Republican activist Austin Beigel laughed. It's a mockery of the most basic biological conceptions. And now I still, I'm sort of, kind of can't believe this is a real article. Well, I think their purpose in this was saying if you think it's absurd to regulate men, then you think you should think it's equally absurd to regulate women. So Mani responded, I'm guessing that there was a an original idea that... I see I see okay of course yeah about I understand taking on reproductive rights for women. Absolutely. So I don't know man. Good idea. I'd run up a tab I know that.

Starting point is 01:27:03 They're making a valid point when you put it that good idea. I'd run up a tab, I know that. They're making a valid point when you put it that way, absolutely. I'd run up a tab. When you hosted SNL, what was that like for? Do you recall some of the energy of that night? It was a wild, somewhat terrifying experience. I had just gone through some pretty, I'd just gone through surgery. From testicular cancer? Yeah, yeah, and I'd had this lymph node dissection and I was kind of like, it had affected my sort

Starting point is 01:27:36 of energy levels a lot. So it was kind of, there was a lot going on in my life when I actually got the call to do that show and to do Saturday Night Live. You know, it was really cool though. The thing that was cool about it was, you know, Lorne Michaels, who's Canadian and I was just so kind of sort of overwhelmed that I was asked to do it, right? And I had a couple of friends who I grew up with who worked on my show with me and I said, you know, can they come in and like kind of work with me and do some, help write some skits and

Starting point is 01:28:13 stuff, so they gave us a little office and then stuff we went in and we were sort of writing skits up and everything. And, you know, they actually kind of ended up giving me a lot of kind of creative freedom on the show to kind of write sketches and stuff. And, um, you know, in hindsight, I kind of wish they hadn't.

Starting point is 01:28:32 No. Like they had just written themselves? Yeah, well, cause, cause we really kind of made some really weird fucking sketches, you know? I think maybe it would have been cool if I, maybe I had just gone in and done the stuff that they had written, but like I was, I was

Starting point is 01:28:44 sort of definitely you know Freddie got fingered hadn't come out yet So like I was still kind of riding high on this hit show and we come in and we say okay now Let's write some crazy sketches, right? And I mean the stuff we wrote was really really weird, you know and and I mean, the stuff we wrote was really, really weird. And... Were you intent on making it weird? Do you feel like that?

Starting point is 01:29:10 I think we were, yeah. Like how weird can we make this? Yeah, kind of. It's SNL, let's make it ours. I think so, I think so. And sometimes I think there was a misperception maybe among some of the cast that I brought my own writers in,

Starting point is 01:29:21 which wasn't really the case. It was more like, it was my buddies and they'd come up with me with the show. You know, it was kind of like we were, you know, when we made the show in Canada, they, some of my friends came down with me to the States to- Like this is part of the team, it's not just Tom Brady. I want them to be included in the show.

Starting point is 01:29:39 So we kind of went in and did that. But I mean, it was an amazingly exciting experience. I mean, my parents were there on stage with me. You know, it was one of those things where you kind of can't believe that it actually happened while it was happening. And I did a lot of sketches with Will Ferrell. Here's an example of something that I wouldn't say I regret this, but like, uh, but, um, I kind of regret this. Um, so, so there was a, there was a sketch

Starting point is 01:30:11 where I'm a wizard and I'm holding a pig, like an actual pig. And, uh, and it was Molly, Shannon and Will. Wow. And I'm a wizard. And I didn't really have any lines in the sketch or many lines in the sketch. It was mostly Will and Molly who were doing this sketch.

Starting point is 01:30:28 And, but I noticed during rehearsal that if I, like, if I just kind of lightly sort of tickled the pig's belly with my finger, that it would start to squeal extremely loud. Right. And so I did that once during rehearsal and then somebody said, Oh, you're better not, um, you know, she'll squeal if you touch her belly. And so I said, okay. And there's a rehearsal show and then there's the actual show, right? And, you know, I kind of maybe regret this, but I did note that, okay, let's get through

Starting point is 01:31:00 the rehearsal show, but then live, I'm going to make that pig squeal. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, sister. It did kind of. Sorry I meant pig. No, but it was kind of, it kind of threw the sketch off a little bit. You just started to get squealing at me.

Starting point is 01:31:16 I realized that it did kind of throw the rhythm of the comedy off a little bit, but. How many times did you squeal at Dyr? It was just sort of became sort of a bit of a bit of a mess but. And were you getting a squeal every time he touched his belly or do you have to really? No I just had to kind of just lightly sort of pet her there and she would just try. But it was amusing to me but I'm not sure if anybody else enjoyed it that much. Oh yeah. But so. My sister's like that if you touch her lunch, you know, she fucking gets a little animated if you grab any of her takis out of her little dish.

Starting point is 01:31:48 Right. It was like that. Yeah. But it was an amazing experience. I was total honored to be able to do it. And I mean, it was cool. I mean, the cast was Jimmy Fallon, Tina Fey, Will Farrell, Chris Catan, Molly Shannon, Anna

Starting point is 01:32:06 Gasteyer, uh, Tracy Morgan. And you know, um, you know, there was, it's a weird environment like Saturday Night Live, especially when you're young and you don't really know, like, you know, we were talking earlier about like going to, you're talking about going to Chris Rock's party and like you didn't know how to act or

Starting point is 01:32:28 whatever, cause there's all these people here and it's just kind of complicated. Yeah. So you're getting thrust into an environment like that and then it's, even as the host, it sort of felt like kind of a competitive environment because, you know, all the cast members are trying to write sketches and get

Starting point is 01:32:44 them on the air, everyone, every week. And, and I didn't really know how it worked really at the time. In hindsight, I now realize how it works and I, we might have done things differently, but you know, when we were trying to put these sketches on the air that we were writing, maybe that was kind of pushing another sketch off and we didn't really, I wasn't really thinking of it like that. So it kind of created, it kind of, it's kind of a weird environment and you know, the more I kind of, you know, sort of hear people on podcasts who've been on the show, talk about the show, it seems like everybody's gone

Starting point is 01:33:14 through that experience who's been on that show where it's very competitive and, and stressful for people. And that makes me feel a little bit better about my experience there because you know, it was, it was kind of a, you know, a stressful experience because you know, it was kind of a stressful experience, you know, because you know everybody is going to be watching the show, it's live,

Starting point is 01:33:30 and you know, I'm, you know, you're doing all this weird stuff that's not necessarily, you know, I'm a little bit out of my element, I didn't do sketch comedy. Yeah, that's scary. So it was, it was, it was, but it was cool. It was cool. It sounds like it's par for the course a little, because yeah, I mean, even So it was, but it was cool. It was cool.

Starting point is 01:33:45 It sounds like it's par for the course a little, because yeah, I mean, even Adam Sandler, the other night was singing, he had a musical tribute that he did to the 50 years, and he referenced a couple times about people having sketches that they wrote that didn't get on the show. So I think that seemed like it was just a weekly occurrence.

Starting point is 01:34:00 And of course you want to go in there with a little bit more comfort zone for yourself. It's like yeah If we can write a couple of them or we can have some manipulation over them It's probably gonna make you feel more comfortable. You know another thing that was weird that happened on the show so like So there was a sketch that I did. Oh, it's called a sketch like I did with Will Ferrell where we're both dressed as Eagles mm-hmm and This was one of the ones that my

Starting point is 01:34:25 friends and I wrote. Okay. Yeah. It's sort of hard to sort of say that we wrote it, but the sketch was, uh, you know, uh, Jimmy Fallon and Molly Shannon are looking at Will and I who are eagles, right? We wrote this out by the way, on paper and

Starting point is 01:34:40 handed it in and then they said to do it. And then, uh, Will and I, uh, decide to fly up into the audience. Okay. And, uh, I thought it would be fun to go in the audience. So we fly into the audience, uh, and then we chew up carrots and then, uh, I believe

Starting point is 01:34:59 Will chews up a carrot and I believe he sort of spits the carrot into my mouth. Um, and then kind of we end he sort of spits the carrot into my mouth and then kind of we end up sort of, because you know how baby birds will chew up the food and feed it, mother birds will chew up the food and make it easier for the baby to eat. So this was the sketch we did. Oh yeah. But so somehow I kind of maybe probably would have been better if we just kind of

Starting point is 01:35:26 did the sketches that their writers had written. Oh god, huh? Yeah. And these are both males, huh? Yeah, so we're doing this, yeah exactly. So we're doing this. What zoo is that at, huh? That's what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 01:35:40 That's the West Hollywood Aquarium right there, brother. I'll tell you that, huh? Yeah, so we're doing this sketch, this skit. And so, you know, when you host the show, you got to run to get ready for the next sketch because you got to shake off your eagle costume and put on another costume, right? And so I'm running down the stairs and I'm running through the backstage area and just sitting in the darkness, you know, just backstage, Tom Hanks is just sitting there in front of a monitor watching

Starting point is 01:36:07 the show and I'm in an eagle costume. I'd just done that. I make eye contact with Tom Hanks. So now I'm like, oh, I was already kind of nervous. Now like I got Tom Hanks in the, in the dark watching and I'm going like, how did that eagle sketch go, you know, and I'm sort of getting ready for the next sketch, not sure how the Eagle sketch

Starting point is 01:36:28 went and Tom Hanks is watching. So it kind of throws you a little bit, but then there's a big after party after the show and Tom Hanks was real nice and he, you know, was hanging out, talking to my parents and stuff. Oh, that's cool. And so it was pretty cool. But no, it was an amazing thing.

Starting point is 01:36:41 It's a, it's a kind of thing though, like, it's kind of like you go, geez, it would be nice to be able to do it again someday. Because I think like doing it the first time is, is sort of so, I don't know that that would ever happen, but you know, probably in an alternate universe, I might be able to do it again someday. But, but, you know, like you go, okay, I sort of

Starting point is 01:37:00 understand how the system of it works now. And, and it would be, you know, probably, you know, I probably would not have done that. Yeah, but also it's great that you did though. That's so epic. And yeah, I think you're right about, that's like a lot of things in life. You're like, man, I wish I had gotten a trial run

Starting point is 01:37:21 or had a little bit of an idea of how the feelings were or what the energy was like in that space or that room or like, man, there's been things you go out on a stage, part of a show or a banquet, some type of thing, and you just play the room totally wrong, you know? That didn't seem like that, but there's definitely times like that in life

Starting point is 01:37:40 and you wish you like, man, I wish I'd get one more swing at it. Yeah, yeah. And you know, I think that wish you like, man, I wish I'd get one more swing at it. Yeah. Yeah. But. And, you know, I think that, uh, you know, that, uh, generally you can at least take those lessons and apply them to something else. Oh yeah, for sure. So yeah. Did, um, was Michael Jackson there whenever you guys played?

Starting point is 01:37:57 Who was y'all's musical guest? Uh, no, it was not Michael Jackson, but that would have been amazing if it was Michael Jackson. No, it was David Gray. Uh, but, um, man, it would have been amazing if it was Michael Jackson. No, it was David Gray. But man, it would have been amazing. Nothing against David Gray. David Gray, I've seen David Gray play. Have you ever interacted with Michael Jackson in any way? No.

Starting point is 01:38:18 No, that would have been amazing. But yeah, he was great. I would love to see. Another weird thing that happened on the show, one thing that was weird that happened on the show, so I was backstage getting ready for the show. I don't even know if I should tell this story. I don't even know if I should tell this story. Let's talk about something else. Okay. It's a weird story. Yeah, Tom Hanks was there the other night. I didn't get to see him. Oh, I got to see Madonna. She's little. Okay. Where was that? Such a little baby carrot. She was at that SNL thing. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was just interesting. So you're chatting with

Starting point is 01:38:57 Madonna? No, no, no, no, no. She's quite interesting on TikTok these days. Oh, is she? She's just some pretty sort of out there stuff on her TikTok. I gotta follow her. I gotta check her out. When you have these um you beat cancer right? Has it flared back up? What's that been like? No it's no no it's completely gone. Do they have to take out one of your gonads or not? One testicle yeah my right testicle and some lymph nodes as well but. And what are the lymph nodes like? Is that actually in the testicle or is that in the body? No, the lymph nodes are actually behind your intestines and they have to like, they cut me up here and they had to remove those and that was just to check to see if the cancer had spread into them. Wow. And you know, the only way they could really check and know for 100% sure if it had spread was to take them out and look at them under a microscope and stuff.

Starting point is 01:39:45 So, so they had not spread. So then that meant I did not have to have chemo and stuff, but they did take my right testicle, which was, uh, honestly, like when I found out, the show was on MTV at the time. And you have it still. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:56 I did not keep it like indefinitely, but that is it in a plastic bag right there. Um, how many ounces is it? Do you know? I don't remember weighing it exactly, but I know it's quite heavy for sure. Oh hell yeah. But, uh, we don't have no light testicles

Starting point is 01:40:14 around here. But, uh, we filmed the whole, uh, the whole, um, sort of, uh, surgery, uh, and for a show on MTV. That's actually the whole show there, the Cancer Special, which is on YouTube. But you'd see my documentary on Prime too, where it kind of walks through that hole.

Starting point is 01:40:32 That's Glenn Humplich, who is my friend and co-host on the show. And here he is sort of after my surgery, coming down and playing with my testicle. A little bit of sashimi there. Yeah, it's a little sashimi. Yeah, that's what he says. It sort of looks like chicken.

Starting point is 01:40:43 And then my mom says, I don't know what kind of chicken you're eating. Yeah. So that is my cancer infected testicleimi there. It's a little sashimi. Yeah, he sets what he says. It sort of looks like chicken and then my mom says I don't know what kind of chicken you're eating. Yeah, so that is my cancer infected testicle right there But you know, I still have the left one. It's the middle one now I can still ejaculate just a little no, it's pretty good. Actually. Yeah, dude It's gonna cost you 10 grand if you drive over to Ohio and do it Look, why would you stop in Mishawaka and do it? Only five grand for me. Oh yeah, that's true.

Starting point is 01:41:09 Which is a benefit to having in Ohio, to have a testicular cancer. You can kind of. God, brother. The tariffs they would rack up, they'd make a million bucks a night in that state. That's not a bad idea. No, not a bad idea, for sure.

Starting point is 01:41:22 Did you ever wear a prosthetic testicle? It was offered and I refused to do it. I did not refuse, but I just sort of opted out on the prosthetic. Did you ever look at him at least? I think I did. Yeah, I think I did. This was, you know, 20 years ago, but I'd heard, the doctor kind of said, you know, a lot of people get them don't like it.

Starting point is 01:41:42 They say it kind of sort of feels weird or whatever. So I just figured, no, I don't need one. So, you know, but, uh, I mean, I don't know how much you want to talk about my ball sack, but I mean, it doesn't really seem that much different like down there. Like, I mean, I'll just kind of sort of, sort of morphs into kind of like a, cause like the, like the, um, like they don't like, um, like, um like they don't like, like, they don't actually like go through the scrotum to get the testicle, you know that?

Starting point is 01:42:10 Like they don't actually cut the scrotum. Oh, no. No, they go in, they cut your leg up, sort of up, up here, like on your, like under your, your pubics hair kind of thing. Yeah. Under your pubes, they go in there and then they kind of go in and they just sort of

Starting point is 01:42:21 shuck it out like an oyster from above. Yeah. So it's sort of not really like the scrotum is completely intact. You know, like there's not some sort of, you know, sort of scarred scrotum or anything. Like I don't have a scarred up scrotum. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:35 Like it's totally normal scrotum. Yeah, good. Yeah. Like there's a, there's a little scar up here, but I'd had a, I'd had a hernia operation before when I was like, you know, younger. So they just went through the same thing. So it's like, you know, younger, so they just went through the same thing.

Starting point is 01:42:46 So it's like, you wouldn't just a little scar there. Yeah. So a lot of hernias in Canada too. What country has the most hernias you think? Yeah, that is interesting. I had never thought of it about that, but is there a lot in Canada? A lot of my friends in Canada have had hernias.

Starting point is 01:42:59 A lot of your friends in Canada have had hernias. Really? Yeah, I'm just wondering. That is, I'd be curious to see if there's more in Canada. That would be certainly an interesting statistic for sure. According to available data, countries in South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa tend to have the highest prevalence of hernias, particularly in regions with lower socioeconomic status

Starting point is 01:43:18 with countries like India and parts of Tanzania showing significantly higher rates compared to high-income nations. This is largely due to factors like limited access to health care and higher rates of manual labor. Wow. I gave myself a hernia on my show live on the public. It was on the public access version of the show years before we were on MTV. And it was kind of a strange episode, probably one of the weirder ones where we said, okay, I'm going to break the Guinness Book of World Records for the longest fingernails. Have you ever seen those?

Starting point is 01:43:51 Oh yeah, we used to see them all the time. This is a strange bit. And the Chinese kid on the bikes, remember that? That world record book? Yeah. They'd have a 15 or 16, a whole, just a starter pack of Asians all hanging off a bike. Exactly. So for whatever reason, this was, this,

Starting point is 01:44:06 this doesn't even sound like it could even possibly make sense to describe it, but the idea was, okay, and then it was Glenn and myself, it's a live show. It was on community cable, you know, it's not on a big network, you know, so it was sort of late at night and we said, okay, what we're going to do is we're going to try to break the

Starting point is 01:44:24 record for longest fingernails. And I had a bunch of milk, it was calcium, and I set it up all very seriously. And then I start drinking milk. And then for the entire hour, I just basically drank milk and kind of stared at my fingernails for an hour and didn't do anything, right? Just kind of progressively got a little bit

Starting point is 01:44:44 more kind of sort of weird. And then at the, towards the end of the show, I kind of stood up and started thrashing around sort of somewhat violently. I don't know, there's no real logical reason for it. It was like a milk overdose or something. And I threw my, I started doing this thrashing and I hit the desk and I flipped the desk over

Starting point is 01:45:03 and, and I felt something pop in my abdomen. And then we went off the air and I went up to the bathroom and my intestine was like pushing out through my, through my abdomen and went to the hospital and I had given myself a hernia. So, so that's, well, that's how that happened. Was that probably the worst accident you ever endeared?

Starting point is 01:45:24 Uh, no, uh, the worst one ever was just two years ago. I stepped on a fire on the beach in Costa Rica. The old fire step, huh? Buried under sand. And I walked up to this bonfire and the edge of the fire had been buried and I my foot went into it and Yeah, I got third degree burns. I thought it was a couple to go sandwiches. Yeah, no They they yeah, it was it was that was maybe the worst And that was just three years ago I almost lost my foot

Starting point is 01:46:02 And that was just three years ago. I almost lost my foot. So that was- You just had to lay in bed for a while, huh? For 10 days in a Costa Rican hospital. And then I was medevacked on an air ambulance back to Canada actually. And spent another week and a half in the hospital there. And yeah, my foot's pretty messed up right now, but it's better. It's better.

Starting point is 01:46:23 Yeah. Not a hundred percent, but I've had a few good injuries. That was, oh, there they go. There they are. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You found the unedited version. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:31 Yeah. That, that, wow. Look at that. Yeah. It was, and look at this, the top of my foot too. Wow. The bottom of the foot ain't good either. Those are sexy.

Starting point is 01:46:39 I'll spend 10 grand on those things. Oh, look out Ohio. Jeez. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. out, Ohio. Geez, yeah, my gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, those are my feet right there. That was just, that was maybe coming up on three years ago now. So yeah, that was maybe the worst injury ever, so yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:59 So the show that you have now, you have the special that's out. Yeah, yeah, it all came out just a few weeks ago. The 28th or something, when was it? Yeah, yeah, on the, it's... It's all on Amazon Prime. On Prime, it's, this is the Tom Green documentary, and then the stand-up special, it's called I Got a Mule.

Starting point is 01:47:20 I Got a Mule. I'm talking about my life on the farm and getting my mule, and then the show, which is, it's a four episode sort of series of me moving to the farm called Tom Green Country and I recorded all the music for the show as well. There's a country album that I put out, which is the sound for the soundtrack for the

Starting point is 01:47:35 show, which is called Home to the Country, which is on Spotify. It's called what? It's called Home to the Country. Home to the Country. It's the name of the, of the album and, and that's out on music, wherever you get music now, and then I'm on tour.

Starting point is 01:47:48 I'm actually on tour. I'm getting back in the camper van and we're going to start do a little bit more camping and touring around with my fiance up through the desert and then, uh, and then we'll be picking up the tour again, March, March 14th in Colorado and it'll be Colorado Springs, Aspen, uh, upwards to, you know, through, where are

Starting point is 01:48:08 we going, Indianapolis, St. Louis. All the dates are on my website, but to Chicago and so touring and driving back to Canada. And then I'll be riding my mule all summer. So. Yeah. When are you in Ottawa? I'm going to be in Ottawa.

Starting point is 01:48:20 I'm not sure actually. I think sometime before the, I guess May maybe. Oh, cool. Cool. But I'll have to let you know before I will definitely be so cool to come see the farm Yeah, do you think like with a lot of the new stuff you're shooting now or some of the stuff that I see on your YouTube Channel, it's a little bit more um Artistic in some way. I don't know if that's a word. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely like not

Starting point is 01:48:42 Something that I expect to really go viral in a lot of ways because it's very long form stuff that I just really like shooting like that. Do you notice, it almost seems like it's almost like you'd want to shoot a feature, like a movie. I can't tell. I don't know because sometimes we have things that start to happen and then it becomes something else. But when I'm watching it, I feel like I'm

Starting point is 01:49:08 getting into a, I'm getting into a world. Yeah. That's what it feels like. Yeah. That's cool. That's cool. I mean, like to know that you've watched it cause it sort of is sort of, it's not like I'm a mainstream comedy sort of piece that I'm

Starting point is 01:49:20 putting on my YouTube channel right now. It's, it's, you know, I want to kind of just capture what it feels like being out in the desert and in these amazing places or being on the farm with, with the animals. And, uh, and so, you know, I like, I like shooting and capturing images that are sort of calming and beautiful.

Starting point is 01:49:39 And, and it is the kind of thing that, you know, it's, it's, you know, the show's not like that, the show is, there's a lot more going on, but the, the, there is something nice about just kind of putting that, you know, it's, it's, you know, the show's not like that. The show is, there's a lot more going on, but the, the, there is something nice about just kind of putting it on and, uh, sitting back and just kind of like, it's like an ASMR type of thing. Yeah, that's what it feels like.

Starting point is 01:49:54 It's like ASMR for your eyes kind of. Yeah, yeah. So it's, uh, it's interesting. I mean, I think a lot of it started just as me kind of like really trying to experiment with the cameras and just trying to figure out how to make these cameras work and capture the sort of the cinematography the way I want to capture it.

Starting point is 01:50:08 And I think that maybe it may evolve into something a little bit more faster paced at some point, but right now it's just, it's just a lot of this sort of slice of life stuff that I put up on the YouTube channel. And, and, you know, I have a podcast that I do, you know, one episode every six months or something like that. I might start doing the podcast again and putting that one episode every six months or something like that.

Starting point is 01:50:25 I might start doing the podcast again and putting that up to kind of give people something a little bit more familiar to watch. But right now, yeah, that's what it is. And I just, I kind of just enjoy taking people to these places. I mean, I find it interesting that like, you know, everything's so fast paced now, like, you know, everything's so fast paced now.

Starting point is 01:50:46 Like, you know, everything is so, people's attention spans are so short now that it's kind of interesting to sort of do something that's kind of not that. And, uh, again, it's, it's not, you know, the algorithm doesn't really work in its favor, you know, you have to say something shocking within the first 10 seconds and then, you know, put some words on the screen and do all these things that you can do to really capture large audiences. But, but if you do watch it, you sort of do kind

Starting point is 01:51:14 of get sucked into a little secret universe in a way. Yeah. You know, there's even little messages sometimes I'll put like 45 minutes into a video that will, you know, if you made it that far, you know, then you might say something in the comments and then I'll know that you actually watched 45 minutes.

Starting point is 01:51:31 And so there is a lot of people that do get it, you know, which is fun. And, and, and it's kind of neat to, you know, it's impossible to capture the energy of what it's like out there in nature by doing something fast paced because so much of what's amazing about it is just the calm stillness of it also. That's what it is on the YouTube channel.

Starting point is 01:51:51 It's a bit different, but. I think people are as desperate for that as they've ever been in some ways. I think things have gotten, we're operating at a speed that we don't even feel comfortable in sometimes, you know, or our brains are having to. Um, but yeah, that's what it feels like. It feels like some type of an ASMR or some,

Starting point is 01:52:09 it feels calming, man. That's what it feels like. And yeah, I'm just curious, because you're always, you've just always been a creator, you know, you're just always creating. You're always finding some way to, to, I don't know if it's in fact, to incite, to get a reaction out of people.

Starting point is 01:52:29 Yeah. In some type of way. Yeah. It's cool. It's weird today because there's so much energy online, like so much craziness and pranks and just, you know, like, you know, just the insanity that you can see every day on your phone. Like before you get out of bed, you're just like, you know,

Starting point is 01:52:47 if you pick up your phone and you get that in your head too early in your day, your whole day could be just kind of. But you started it. Well. Well, that's okay. It's not a judgment. You know, technology was changing at the same time, but. We're glad you did, man.

Starting point is 01:53:04 We're glad you did, man. We're glad you did, man. Tom, thanks so much for all the entertainment over the years and yeah, man, I just appreciate you spending time with me. Congratulations on the new engagement. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show, Theo. I mean, it's awesome, man.

Starting point is 01:53:15 I love the show and I just appreciate you having me on and. Yeah, I'm going to come pet that donkey, man, when I get up there. Absolutely. Come pet the donkey, man. You will. All right. Absolutely, come pet the donkey man. You will, I will get up there, okay. Alright, thanks Tom. I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones

Starting point is 01:53:47 But it's gonna take a little

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