This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - 2024 KC Fringe Tech Rehearsal (Fringe Adjacent)

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

This is what a Fringe Festival tech rehearsal is like.  Mike and Heather use the opportunity to talk about the 2024 KC Fringe program - and car troubles.

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This is uncalled for live at KC Fringe. My name is Mike Chernevsky. Hi. I am. Heather Marie. How are you guys doing tonight? Woo. All right.

So we're here at fringe tech rehearsals. Got Heather here. And what are we talking about today? Well, I... We both are dealing with car trouble. Yes, we are. We could really talk. I feel like that's just relevant to me right now, but I'm pretty flexible.

What do you want to talk about? Well, I was hoping we did do your top 10 episodes, assuming you've done that yet. Bring me? Yeah. Come forward a little more? Come forward, yeah. Yeah, project, as they say in theater. So I ended up getting back home from Minnesota last night at like 11.

and then my car broke down today and I completely forgot to bring my top 10 podcast list. Okay, this perfectly, do you have, do you only say to memorize? No. Not even, okay. No.

All right. What are you? You said that and I was like, oh yeah. I was supposed to do that. You were supposed to do it. We can do that some other time. That's perfectly all right. So, do you want to talk about car troubles?

You know, we can talk. What do you want to talk about? Aside from top 10 episodes. I guess we could talk about car troubles because we're both experiencing car troubles right now. So as we're doing this right now, my car is in the shop too. So I have a lot of experience with my car in the shop. A lot recently, specifically. Well, yeah.

Yeah, specifically. But certainly over the course of my owning my current car. So what is it in the shop for right now? It is in the shop because starting on Monday, okay, starting on Monday, getting gas and everything, and then I stop at Crown Center, have some lunch before going into a club to help out, everything. I get, and can mind it's hot on Monday, right? get back to the car

and it's pretty hot in the Crown Center garage for some reason. Hallmark if you're listening please AC in your garages. For fans or something. Or fans or something. I agree. I agree. It's a hot box in there.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d-d-d-d-d-z-h-h-l-z-h-h-l-h-l-h. About About like that. Yeah. And it just But I think it must have something to do with the heats, or I'm reading mine that's probably vapor lock, because I had just gotten gas. But I get to the club that I'm supposed to help out with.

Same damn thing over again. Oh, no. I get to the chess club office to do something. Just hang out for a little bit. To try to say cool. Same goddamn thing. So it won't start. and then the second time it starts every time yeah yeah again after a little while huh then tuesday

comes around first i'm paying some guys 150 bucks to take away an old mattress just get rid of the damn thing yeah they are hard to get rid of yeah it was uh holy and got some uh damage from the uh storms we've had recently so it just had we get rid of yeah it was time It is beyond time. Do you have a new mattress yet? I have an air mattress I'll be using. Okay. So back to the car.

So back to the car. Yeah, same goddamn thing. Get out to where I need to go for work. Even though it's a little cooler, same goddamn thing, you know. Actually, no, I make the mistake of stopping at McDonald's, getting some food. and then going back to my destination which isn't too far away

the Lanxia City Hall where we've been before and yeah drop out some stuff by the way one of our instructors that's been at camp there this week has

Donnie Campbell for math and I told her you know we have that episode that released recently with my talking Ted Lassau with researchers. Uh-huh.

Yeah. And she's like, oh, I need to listen to that sometimes. Right. So I leave. Yeah, all that bullshit again. The funny thing is the car's driving just fine.

All right? After it starts. After it starts. It's the starting that is on the issue. It's a big thing. it's a big part of it though yeah so i so i finally get started i get back to uh my shop downtown loveland park and uh they take take a look at they have issues getting started and they figured out yeah it's the engine control module that's malfunctioning oh no that sounds expensive

oh it is of course of course it is now here's the thing uh they've They've worked with me for such a long time on this particular car that, they said, yeah, we're going to do our best to keep the price as low as possible for you. Well, as low as possible, it turns out they've been shopping for parts for the last day plus. And, yeah, I'll be without a car for at least the next five days. And what's their number? what are you looking at as far as repairs uh unfortunately i have a line of credit with them and uh it should be uh under my uh under my number so okay hopefully hopefully fingers crossed

yeah otherwise it would otherwise if we had just done what they initially planned on doing which one included another parts we were really like at five grand oh my gosh that's a whole new car almost although yeah I won honestly not right now it seems like you can't even yeah car man prices of cars car trouble it seems like it's happening all over yeah yeah so I let's hear about your car troubles well I know you've had your car in the shop a bunch recently I've been pretty fortunate my car I have a 2004 Cadillac SRX oh that's all are in my car it is it's an old car but and it's been a good car so I have I work hard not to complain about it because It's been a good car.

But I went to Fargo to watch my daughter wrestle. And then we went to Minnesota to visit my grandfather. And I rented a car for that journey because it was going to be a lot of miles on my 2004 Cadillac. So we got home last night about 11, 11.30. This morning got up to take the rental back. And cars driving just fine. And then it's doing that like jumpy. oh no yeah kind of feels like the whole engine's doing something like this and my daughter was

actually driving that car because I was driving the rental back she calls me from behind me and she's like hey the car's doing something kind of funny and I'm like we're a mile and a half away from the rental place let's just get it there and then I'll drive it home and we'll see so we get it there I get in the car to drive it home definitely doing the jumpy thing right then the check engine light flashes that is definitely not good And that has happened to me before, not this time, oddly enough, but it has happened before, most recently, just a couple of months ago. Yeah.

It happened. Well, I knew that a flashing check engine light meant stop your car right now. Just any check engine, really soon. Well, that's true. But, like, flashing is like, hey, hey, hey, I'm trying to get to your attention, you know. And so we stopped. I turned it off. I turned it back on.

Check engine light is on, but no longer flashing. and it's a jumpy ride, but I'm able to get it home, call my mechanic, get it to the mechanics office. I don't know how much it's going to cost yet. He said that he should hopefully be able to take a look at it for me this afternoon, but he's golfing tomorrow, which is fine. I'm happy for him that he's golfing tomorrow. I'm guessing this is not a chain mechanic. No, he is a phenomenal mechanic. He's been my mechanic for about 10 years. But he has a, he has a, his home and then his garage with the lift and everything is right next to it and he works how he works but he is very reasonable and he's very kind and he's very honest so all of it kind of

works in rotation i i accept the golfing in exchange for all the rest of the perks for it so so yeah so yeah it's so bad and so reason that i got to take an uber out here yeah yeah well i am presently borrowing my dad's car which he's it sounds like i'll be done to borrow on my dad's car starting tomorrow. Michael, we are grown adults, borrowing our dad's cars. That should be the conversation, right? Like, who do you count on when your car breaks down? I didn't even plan to ask my father about this sort of thing.

But he just called while I was still at the shop and volunteered. Hey, I'll let you borrow my car while your car's in the show. Yeah, that's great, though. My dad, I called him because I needed help getting my car to the main. mechanic and then it kind of came about the same way but I was I well I have USA insurance USAA insurance and then I have I have the tow policy on it and so but where the mechanic is from where my home is is like just outside of that oh wow it's like X amount of miles that's included in the toe you know and it's just outside of that

And so it was cost-effective, but it also created an opportunity for my dad and I to talk, and him told me borrow his car. And so your dad was in the service, if you have a... It's actually, so my story takes many turns, as I suppose most people's do, but it is my mom's husband, so my stepdad is who I have USAA through. Nice. My dad was not in the military. A large percentage of my family was in the military, but it's my stepdad that I have USAA through.

Oh, nice. Yeah. I don't think I qualify, even though it was two weeks in the Navy of high school. You should check. I mean, honestly, you should check. If it's even that much of a discount, as of late, insurance is another thing that's gone up exponentially. And I will be completely honest in that it's not the cheapest. And the cheapest isn't always the best, but, you know, it's supposed to be a good rate type of thing.

And it's actually, on my recent insurance shopping adventure, it was one of the more expensive rates. So now I'm kind of processing why stay with them as expensive as they are. But I feel like if I leave, I might not get back in. Isn't that weird? I have like FOMO on an insurance company. It's weird. So, yeah, I'd recommend AAA. Just don't try buy auto insurance with AAA, just get a AAA membership.

How much is your AAA membership? Well, that's actually something my dad helps me with. Walk on, go dad. And we make sure to have the coverage that gives me pretty much anywhere in the KC area, they can tell me back. Yeah, that's awesome. That is very awesome. My toe, I've used the tow service on my insurance, a number of times. Yep.

A number of times. And sometimes, you know, because I have an all-wheel drive car, so I have to have a flatbed tow truck. It can't be like a front-wheel drive or the pull behind. So I've had to wait on tow trucks for an extended period of time. I've experienced a little bit of both. Yeah. Not just with this car that we're talking about, but every car I've had a, Is that car all-wheel drive?

Your car? I think it's just the two-wheel. Yeah. I, yeah, convenience and inconvenience, all at the same time. I enjoy having the all-wheel drive because we live in a climate where it comes in very handy. But I have had to wait, like, four hours for a tow because there wasn't a flatbed tow truck available in that window of time.

And you're on Belton, so that buys a little bit into June. Yes, and I do most of my work, I'm a real estate agent, and I do a lot of my work in Kansas City and surrounding areas. I do real estate in Belton, but like this morning, I had to be up in North Kansas City, Gladstone, Gladstone, Gladstone area. Where it was supposed to be last night, but no car. But no car. And I was on my way up there for an appraisal, you know,

and it's, so that seems like a lot of the time that my car breaks down. it's right outside of that toe window, at least of the free toe window. They'll still tow it. It's not like they stop. This is the end of our line. We cannot tow you further than this. It's just what's included. Oh, we could.

You just have to pay us. You're absolutely right. That's exactly what it would be. But you've got to agree to the payment beforehand. Yeah. So I was on my way to that appointment. I'm in a, I don't know, like an existential space in life. and everything is metaphorical to me right now.

Like I just, I'm like, that happened, but what does it mean? I see that, but what does it mean? Everything is. And among that, like coming back, we visited my grandpa. My grandfather's 94, and he lives with his second life partner. My grandma passed away before I was born, and then he has a life partner that he's been with for the last few decades. Her name is Beverly, and she's wonderful. she's 95 and they live together alone 94 and 95 so making time to see them is a priority

spending time with them is a priority we ended up just enjoying the day yesterday and didn't get home until 11 which is very tired and it pushed me through where I wasn't able to get some things done and then my car broke down this morning and so then I had my dad I'm like talking to my dad's car to make it to this appraisal on time for my client like it's not just me that's at a deficit but I need to be there to facilitate. And as I'm driving up there, my GPS on my phone wants me to get off of my highway that I always drive on and take this other little weird way and get back on the highway up here. And I was like, no, that's stupid. Yeah. I'm not doing that. GPS are usually stupid like that. Uh-huh. Well, what I couldn't see, I had the little car play going on because my dad's

car is real fancy. So I had it like plugged in and car plays on and I've got the GPS and the map is right here. the little blue line. And it's wanting me to go this way, but my line right here is blue. It's this way. I was like, no, that's stupid. I'm not doing that. So I stayed on the highway only to see in about a miles distance that was not on my screen that there was a car accident. It was actually a semi-truck accident. Oh, wow. And I cost myself 15 minutes sitting in a red line that was just a little bit outside of my screen and I'm sitting there and at this point between like getting home late the car thing driving up there and now I'm late to that I just sat there and I was like God talk to me what am I learning right now what is this message what is this metaphor what is

because I don't want to do this this game sucks yeah yeah I got to the point last night I was like God hates me just like like this sucks like you kind of feel cursed almost yeah And so as I'm sitting there, and all of a sudden, I realized that, one, my GPS tried to take me off the highway. There was a signal. There was a message. There was a something. Hey, get off the highway here. I didn't know why.

I thought it was stupid. So I said, that's stupid, and I didn't do it. And then I got stuck in the traffic. Sometimes we get redirected. And you can't see why, because it's not on your screen yet. You're looking at it, and you can't see it yet. Yeah. You just got to kind of have faith that that redirection is for you on purpose.

That was the messaging that I got in my angry moment. Right. Was the, hey, the GPS told you to get off. You literally said that stupid I want to sit in this trap. Right. Okay. Noted. Yep.

So, yeah, fun times with cars. Yeah, before this, all the thing, you know, we had the, I forget which part it was. that's triggered check engine lights, but it triggered check engine lights, and we had to take it in. Then I took some fun times with the fuel pump. Well, how many times has your car been in the shop just this year?

Pliny. I'd say at least three that I know of just through our conversations. And that's not including the standard oil changes either. Oh, well, right. It's been preventative. It's gone to the point they say, yeah, you're one of our favorite.

customers oh wow you are very kind and you're easy to be around so I could see that and I did gift them a chess sets so they so they have a check so they have a chest sets in their in their waiting room little waiting room that is so cool if you wanted to you could play chess while you're waiting for your car of course there's a restaurant's in that a little strip mall there that you can go to as well so once the last time you did a live podcast this is oh once i said i did a live probably uh saw some common yeah yeah which would have been in preparation for doing this in 2022 had coven not struck my house yeah but uh yeah that that's last time we did a live show a live show how do you feel about it i'm excited yeah they love it

loving it so as far as because i've not done a lie i've done a lot of of I've been on stages and done a lot of public speaking, but not necessarily a podcast. So should we be facing forward? You are facing forward. Well, I know we're facing forward, but my nature is to look at people when I talk to them. So should I not be doing that?

Should I be talking to you and looking out there? I guess you could probably split the difference. Yeah? Yeah. Just look this way. Yeah, split the difference. Make sure you can be picked up on the bike. Okay.

Okay. So then in that case, too, when we have our guests, is there a seating chart? Should we come up with a seating chart? Or how do you? What's your... So you and me in the center. And... A guest on either side? Guests on one side or the other, whichever they want. Yeah? Yeah. Huh. I would have put the guest in between us so we could both talk to them. But that's probably because I look at people when I talk to them. So that way my back's not to you. That way I can look at you and the guest.

Oh, in that case, we should probably have you in the fancy over there if you want to do that, yeah. Well, and I mean, I'm open. I know we have different numbers of guests. This is why we do tech rehearsals, yes. So it'll be between three or four people on this stage and A one time. Okay. And then, all right, so then we'll mic check, can you still, how can you tell if you can still hear me well if I sit here? I like this actually better.

I feel much more open. You like that better? Well, I just, I don't have to face you so directly to be able to talk to you because there's enough space between us that, you know what I mean? And my headphones are phone part here, so, all right, let's do it quick. Mike check, mic check, one, two, one, two. I can hear you just fine. Can you hear me just fine? That is great news.

Yep. So that means that whoever sits in this seat then will still be able to. Yeah, well, they still going to have to project so that people can hear you too, so, you know. Are you excited for Megan for our first show? She's so fun. Yeah, that should be an interesting. That should be an interesting one. I think they're all going to be interested in.

No, I agree. I agree. To be honest, what you... I'm just going to be my... But Megan's going to be our first guest, yeah. Yeah, talk about the burlesque la. Yeah, the burlesque sea, which Kansas City burlesque is growing and doing really cool things. Yeah.

But she also, I met her in... the immersion theater. So she does the, have I told you about that? I haven't, no, you haven't. I haven't told you about that at all. So I am part of the Kansas City immersion theater troupe, and we do murder mystery dinners. The troop does, like they do Disney princesses,

famous for a day, but it's all immersion theater. So if I say immersion theater, what separates emergent theater from regular theater? I'm guessing that it's kind of like immersion, classes when you're learning a foreign language? Kind of, yes. I mean, so you are creating an experience and you're interacting with the guests

and you're bringing the guests into an interactive, really fun. Honestly, it's play. Honest, it sounds like audience participation. Well, and yes, and so people that people that come to like the murder mystery dinners, for example, there's usually a theme and they know what that theme is

and so a lot of people dress up in costumes. but we'll have a number of people from the troop and then we there's a skit right there's a there's a whole quat and then they have to figure out you know who done it and it's always fun because at the you know in the end when you engage everybody you're playing a big like a game with a bunch of adults and as adults we don't play enough we don't that's where places like tabletop and cardboard corner yeah and game cafe and a place I visited recently I think it's called the Nirvana Game Cafe. I like the name of that.

Yeah. Yeah, we went there, I went there recently to do another recording with someone who, someone else is using this venue. Yeah? Yeah. So the, but that's actually how I met Megan, was in our local emergency theater. So she also does that. So we can talk about that too, I'm sure. It's just a lot of fun.

And then, so Sunday night. Sunday night is Brian Boy. Okay. So what do we? So Brian, this will be his third time. He's joining the three-timers club. I'm in the three-timers club already. Yes and no.

I don't count co-hosts for the three-timers club. But I just mean, like, I just realized we've done this three times already. He said I don't get counted because I'm a co-host. It's fine. Well, it makes sense because co-hosts in theory will be on the podcast more than three times. Yes. No, why not? Yeah. So three-timers club officially is Lucas Stone King and Daniel Raines and Chris are all of them have appeared at least three times. Do you have a list of people that have done it two times that we can get on the third time and make the third timers club a thing?

It's a much shorter list. Yeah, isn't it? One that I have listed does include Brian Boy. Brian, I've known for 20 years now. Yeah. through the independent film directors coalition I can't wait to hear I can't wait to listen and ask questions well his of course his first time on the podcast is in my time

and we have discussed he is responsible for that is a call for Michael he is the that's I called for yeah so a couple things about Brian he's he's father of two they're both teenagers

one I think the oldest identifies as gender fluid and he's done some really interesting shorts over his day job he makes commercials very cool so he has done short films addressing like gender identity is that what you mean as far as or those are just separate topics those are separate topics I don't think he's done anything involved in genital equality but I do know he is an ally of the LGBT community because he has a child who is in that community well and that's lucky for that child also yeah not everybody has safe spaces for whatever their whatever their experiences are so that is awesome so a couple couple other things he's from Nebraska originally for an Oscar yeah but I don't think

went to the University of Nebraska so but yeah no no 20 years he was actually on the IFC board when I first started coming yeah so because he talked about like what he'll want to talk about or we're just kind of let him lead and yeah he actually asked me about that the other day and they in a message and he's like are we the raw dog in it I mean I feel like that's When you have the right people at the table, you can kind of just create good conversation, good communication, and it can be fun and engaging and entertaining and educational all at the same time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you facilitate that very well.

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. So, night three, this is going to be the Wednesday. Yeah, the 24th. That'll be your game designer friend. Yes. who I met for the first time at Carbor Corner when we're there. And he'll be joined.

We'll have a second co-host up here, Mr. Terrence Hayes, whom I misidentified as Yates when I had him the first time. Talk in a little crocky out Stanford edition. Yeah. but uh and uh you know terranza does a couple of other podcasts as well so um whether so his availability with our podcast we'll see he certainly he's certainly welcome that's awesome but yeah that was an interesting discussion the Denver version which uh which gave me a good chance to express my non-love all things chicken hawks I am I am learning it'll be a new

football season for me this year having you to be able to field questions off of yeah like all right so what's happening what does this bracket look like even I'm new to brackets as a whole Sydney is a wrestler like this last tournament they did brackets or they have that's how the it was a bracket of tournament and it's common sports well bracket placement is critical mm-hmm like it's it is a critical thing because you could get paired with the I mean I'd say like the wrong team or wrong opponent first round and you're automatically backside out because you weren't able to work your way up the bracket enough to compete with that team yeah yep

yeah it's just interesting that one so then okay night four nights four is George Dean so George I first star worker with him on Tales from the Interimnet and he will also be joining in the three-timers club oh that's awesome we should make them a special button like your homemade ones I didn't bring it but there's a poster for the three-timers club I will be bringing in later to their like to their episodes oh yeah okay oh yeah so we just Brian Boy and George Dean if we had a button for them like what you made homemade we could make that a thing we could we just got to go French 4111 yeah is that

how that works okay so how how these works during the first Fridays that I've been going to to this show they they had the button maker on on display and how those slips of paper that you could just customize wherever you want to take one of these swirly things and color in however you want take a blank one and fill that either there's a call for Michael or it's Chernevsky I like that because it's like if they would have said you can only come in if you can pronounce his last name it would say I can't do that to people no but I'm glad you don't because names are important So it would have been important to meet you get it right and then I would have struggled feeling I didn't get it wrong

But something we could absolutely talk to at Georgia about so this would be George's first time Saying live with me. Okay, the first two times we're both Virgil. Okay, so not just live audience, but live in person. Yeah, he's out of town most of the time All right Well, that's exciting then. Yep So we could also talk about, because he is a member of SAG, about the strike that recently happened. I'm pretty interested.

I like learning from people, and we have compiled this really cool group of humans to come and share things with them. Just for this fringe program. Yeah. Specifically geared, absolutely. Yeah. I'm excited to listen and learn and ask questions. That's night four. Yeah.

And then night four and then night five, our final nights? Our final night is going to be Ms. Samantha Salem. Samantha is, she's an incredible human, a fellow realtor in the Kansas City area. She also is behind investing KC. And she does a lot of, I mean, aside from just doing real estate, a lot of helping people with their investing portfolios and stuff like that. But Samantha is a Palestinian woman and has, as I'm sure anybody could imagine, it's been very, very closely impacted by everything that has taken place.

Coming up on, I mean, really, like, more than her whole lifetime. It's been in the last, like, 75, 80 years. It's been really kind of... Since Israel became a state, really. Yes. But especially since that... Correct. Yes. But especially since that...

Jackass. Beebe took over. And then now we have what took place in October, which just became a green flag for no more rules. And it's been a slow degree since then. So we will hold space for that conversation. I have a lot of opinions, but I'm really

wanting to... Well, that's my big opinion on that thing is screwing me in Yahoo or how the fuck he pronounces his name? I think it's interesting like I have kids in school and I substitute teach in school and the concept of banned books

right is really really big and amongst these books that are banned and like mine conf has been banned for a very long time it's like you're on a list because I read my comp as a middle schooler well and it's like they say they

I don't know who they are, but they say that if you even check it out, you're on a list. They're like, oh. I checked it out of the school library, believe it. I understand. I'm talking about 30 years, 3 plus years ago. Well, and you have these stories that are banned. We don't want people to read them.

So you have generations that weren't taught them in school. They don't have access to them as stories and books. and they're watching this happen on this global platform and they're they're so out of touch with the history repeating itself component of that you know it's like how are we how are we letting this happen we know better we know better we all agreed to do better and yet here we are yeah and it's not only moved to israel either no Ukraine yes yes there is a lot of global I am Polish on that's side Poland is right next to Ukraine and guess where if that other jackass

Putin somehow succeeds in subjugating Ukraine guess who's next Poland and Poland's a member of NATO so Yeah, that would be interesting to say the least, if that were to happen.

I hope it doesn't. I hope this, the simple way to resolve that is Russia, get the fuck out of Ukraine. It's, like, where does this come from? It's interesting how, and I know it's not just him, it's not just these individual leaders directing this, you know, but they are the forefront and the face of these things. how how with a global stage

does this kind of tyrannical behavior just exist it does and it's not just Ukraine and it's not just Gaza either it's yeah yeah that's that's what will happen if

Donnie somehow gets elected in November I honestly God hope that that doesn't happen so it was such a disaster the first time and oh let's add to the fact that he's a conflict now all right you really want convicted felon running in this country it it makes you feel like the rules are all just pretend like it's rules there are no rules here it's it's

classic ioki are to use the political term it's okay if you're a Republican Ah, I have not heard that term. Ioki are. I got you. It's okay. If you're a Republican, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, hopefully he does not get reelected,

and I'm certainly not going to be going to be going to be going for him. I am, I think partisanship is the demise of democracy. I think the two-party system is the biggest flaw in our, government and it is the biggest barrier to electing anybody actually yeah like qualified to represent us I agree I agree especially yeah with regards to the two-party system yeah I think the Republicans are pretty done for as far as a non-crazy party Bill Maher actually yet said this once the Democrats have moved to

center and the Republicans moved into a mental hospital that's at least like if you're already on the right you can't shift further right like you're out yeah yeah that's that's the way they've been gone honestly for over a long a long time I I point back to at least Reagan at the absolute earliest maybe maybe earlier founding fathers warned against a two-party system so it was I mean these were things that and that comes down to you know what's the intention maybe that was the intention the whole time maybe they is how can we how can we create an entire game plan that within this structure these are the expected rules whether people actually

agree with them or not we'll do a party system because then you could put well, anybody at the head of it, and it's just the talking head. It's not actually a representative of any individuals. It's a representative of party platform. Right. And that's it. Right. So on the Democratic side, yeah, you get all these moderates getting elected,

and those on the even remotely left, they get shutouts. Yeah. As I know from personal experience. in your own campaigning. Exactly. Exactly. Which you've considered doing again. We'll see.

Yeah. We'll see. Healy's up next year for re-election. So, if not me, and certainly someone else has to run against that jackass. And no, Logan, this is not an invitation for you to come on the podcast

because that has never going to happen. He's like, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Here's the thing about that guy in particular. It's a noun of urban education. That's the best way to describe. Every public statement this man has ever made. Is a noun a verb in education?

He doesn't do anything. He says he's progressive. He says he's for the environment. The Brookridge development that's going on right now, hundred third in Antioch area yeah you're trying to have green space for that don't know you say you're for a rail but you okay to putting a toll lane on 69 like these are conflicting measures yeah yeah so you can't call yourself an environmentalist for supporting these things now I need to stop being

lazy and get that petition to Mike Kelly but getting railed to Johnson County but and my understanding he did sign that petition so credit there but but still yeah your actions just be your votes are speaking line and your words and that in my opinion largely comes back to partisanship yeah and having to appease to a party platform rather than constituents yeah because you can't get it's like the barrier to entry isn't actually the voting it is getting to be the person that gets to be voted for right right and unfortunately that takes a lot of money it does well money and very much a not

what you know but who you know yeah it is I could get Andrew calling now if I was yeah it was so we are we'll be mostly facing forward because our audience is here we're engaging with the audience do we actually engage with the audience are they I was thinking I was thinking this is something I could have the ushers to have a index cars they could write questions on there bring bring them up yeah I'm open to that yeah so I'm all about audience engagement that way so yeah we could do that so yeah we will do that is just I get some temporary wheels I will buy some index cards and we right like what a week to have a car issue yeah no kidding

no kidding this is why I say God must really hate me so well I yeah okay so we need some index cards by the way since this thing happened since my thing happened to me while I was at Crown Center during a time where they had I really hot scrunch could I possibly think about suing them for damage yes I don't, I mean, if they can pinpoint it to that part overheating. That's, that's, yeah, that's just the thing. Did you have a question for us? Yes, absolutely.

Yep. Is it sound okay so far? Am I projecting better? Yes. Okay. You always, everyone can always reject more, but. Good, good. All right.

So we will have index cards for audience engagements. Yep. okay with you okay awesome awesome I must go into edits and print more of these flyers up the QR code goes our lips and page and yeah anything else we want to discuss in our as we come up on the 49 minutes now so all right well I felt like I had something, but then I started asking questions, and that thing went away. Okay, I do. I do. So we have this thing that'll go to the podcast where people can listen. As far as marketing material between now and...

Well, we do have some cards over at Fringe 401, but if you want to print off, more cards be my guest. Well, my question is, and are you comfortable with, like, so Megan, for example, is going to be our guest Saturday. So, creating, like, a marketing, like, and I say marketing, using that word loosely, a social media flyer that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that highlights, like, each guest one at a time and, like, when they're coming on, or do we have something that has. I don't have anything in mind, but if you want to go and do that. Are you comfortable with that? Yeah. And then just posted. Do you, am I, am I an admin on the page?

Can I post as the page? I will double check I will double check so if you're not I'll make it an admin well that way if I can post it as the page and then I can share it as the page I can share it as myself but I want to make sure that

the podcast following is also getting all of that information not just my friends but that's if you're cool with that I am absolutely cool with that if I'm imagining a like just one thing that

has all of the times on it and then the names of each guest and maybe like a little blurp about like or less um iFC sat like whatever whatever our kind of topics will be um and then an individual piece that we can promote that upcoming show so like our first one will go out with Megan join us this Saturday and then it'll have yeah Megan's info on there and then that way people have an idea if they're if they're saying what show do I want to go to yeah they have something that tells them like what shows there are they're interested sure she's something in particular yeah so all right I think it's going to do it for this test episode of the podcast so I love it all right so I want to thank all you for attending I want to thank our guests I want

thank Heather, of course, for her help. Please like and subscribe to the podcasts. We're on pretty much every podcast platform that you can think of. If you have one of our flyers, please check out our links as well. There's plenty of ways on there that you can help me out. I do cameo.

I'm on cameo. No one's made for a cameo yet. We got merch, paid for some merch, because no one's on that yet either. I didn't even know that stuff was there. Yeah. So, yeah. And if I didn't know, there's no way everybody else did. Right.

I would also like to thank you, Michael. Thank you for creating a space and being open to just such a broad topic spectrum and holding space for all different kinds of people to sit and share and communicate. I think it's pretty spectacular. I thank you for letting me and us be a part of it. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. All right. That will wrap it up for tonight, so thank you, and good night.

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