This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Amanda Stacey (Snowed In 2025)
Episode Date: June 13, 2025Amanda Stacey is a fantasy writer based in Joplin, Missouri. She was kind enough to join us during a massive winter storm that left us Snowed In....
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Hi everybody, welcome to the podcast
go ahead and introduce yourself, please.
Hi, I'm Amanda Stacey.
I'm an indie author of South West Preserve.
All right.
Glad you could join us on the podcast today.
So first off, how are the roads down there?
They're icy.
We got more ice than we got snow.
We got a lot of rain yesterday.
And then it snowed in the afternoon.
Right.
So not going to get anywhere, for sure.
Yeah, neither am I.
Neither am I.
I'm in Kansas City.
We had a big, we had all of our ice on Saturday.
You probably saw the eclipse of trucks and cars just slipping and sliding all over the streets.
I'm lucky I got home on Saturday evening.
And then we got all the snow.
yesterday and we currently have a 10 feet of 10 inches of snow where I am and uh and no one
and no one has bought my street soon my street's usually one of the last to get bowed but like
I got to be safe from panic shopping I was like I don't need bread milk and eggs like I'm
good on those things right I did manage to buy a few things before I going into work on
Saturday. So
Yay. All right.
So, yeah, writing.
Let's jump right into it.
You do science fiction writing if I'm not.
I just, I had seen that you said that you were a big sci-fi guy.
I actually, my book is in fantasy.
But I feel like there's a lot of crossover between sci-fi and fantasy anyways.
So, like, I was a big, I was really big into Star Trek and Star Trek Next Generation.
and like the amount of fantasy that's actually in those shows is kind of astounding so yeah yeah that that's um my big
franchise is a star trick so and the tos and t and g were my uh intro into it's uh we had all the
VHSs of like the first i think the first and maybe part of the second season of Star Trek next generation
so i used to watch the VHS is and we had the
box set of the Star Trek movies.
Right.
But yeah, I
because I've always
kind of been one of those people, I will read
almost anything. Like, I'll give anything
a shot. But when I
really decided that
I wanted to write,
my inspiration
kind of came from social media.
And at that time, there were a lot of things
about the mythological woman
Lilith. And, like,
everything that I would see about her
on social media I was like
it just it kind of
grinded my gears because I was like
this sounds like a story
that like a guy that's been burned by a girl
would tell and so I was like I want to rewrite it kind of
from a female perspective
instead of the male perspective
and then it ended up being instead of an origin
story it ended up being kind of a dual timeline
story so it was where she came
from and where she is now all right yeah yeah that that's one of the big critiques of the
bible is it was mostly written by men yeah i i kind of i tend to because i was raised in the church
and stuff but now that i'm an adult and like i've done more studying i think that's so important
for people especially if you grew up in the church like really do studying that was outside of like
your church and it's like how much did we not get told because maybe like a woman was like
the hero of the story or like maybe the guy was worse than was portrayed and it's like I just
have questions right yeah yeah that's that's interesting uh yeah um yeah we get all sorts of a
difference uh takes on the bible and everything and uh different takes on how christianity should be
practiced and all that's um i i grew catholic and was uh lDS for a time and um so uh so yeah i was
raised in a like a one of the really classic christ you know first christian church of this
town type situation so the real patriarchal evangelical stuff and then i kind of i really as i got
older i started kind of hating the message that i had been pushed my whole childhood right
so whenever i got married my husband he was catholic and he was wanting to go back to church
and i was like i couldn't care less which one we go to so i was like sure let's try catholic and
I was like, this is surprisingly similar, but it's just more, I felt like the Catholic church was more, um, they, they kind of have a set way of doing things and it's very, you know, kind of traditional, I would say.
I would, I would agree there and lots of, uh, well, I don't know how big of a fan to our South Park, but there was a rank joke in that show where, uh,
The priest in South Park was the only one not molesting his altar boys.
I think I remember that.
Yeah.
One of my favorites.
One thing that really bugs me about Christianity as taught in the church, especially the evangelical take on it.
And the Mormons kind of shared this as well.
Well, they think Jesus would be okay with what's going on in our country today with the poor being Nourge and everything.
And all this talk that, oh, Jesus was a conservative.
No, he wasn't.
Yeah, it's such a big pet peeve of mine.
Like the guns Jesus baby's thing.
I live in Kansas City.
I'm in southwest Missouri.
I am in like the rest.
Yeah, you're just down the street for me.
Yes.
And my gosh, like, like people really believe that he like picked, you know, certain people to like save us.
And I was like, you know, that's blasphemous first of like, no, no man can save you.
That's, you know, what they used to teach at least.
And it really, I was like, you know, there was no.
thing as the USA like when
Jesus was alive right you know
he was in the Middle East which
so he the chances of him being white
were slim to none
and like
and there was no such thing as
Republican and Democrat I was like
he does not support a party
in fact he'd be anti this
like he'd be anti the whole system
because none of it's for helping
the needy or the poor
or the immigrants
Like, it baffles me the people that full-heartedly believed.
And my mom, she actually got ousted from her church because she was going to a Christian church.
And after the election, they were praising God before communion for how the election turned out.
And she couldn't take it.
She stood up.
She's like, oh, no, no, no, this is wrong to my brethren.
The least you have done unto these.
You have done unto me.
and she walked out and she got a certified letter in the mail telling her not to come back
until she apologized to the guy that was running the pre-communion stuff like she had to
apologize to him and she had to do counseling with one of the like members of the church
to sort through any mental issue she was having and just like I'm never going back
good for her good for her because yeah yeah that's another thing that uh really uh had me baffles uh any reasonable
person who's read the about particularly the parts with jesus would uh say okay yeah this guy uh donnie
yeah he's the temple he's the uh money changes in the temple
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah jesus would uh not be in favor of that guy in particular and uh let's not forget
all the uh all the uh all his uh sins if you will before even going in office in the first place
never mind all the loss he broke uh while in while in office or preparing to go into office
including money laundering with which yeah 34 felony convictions convictions yeah
and never mind he fomented a terrorist attack four years ago today on our nation's capital
oh yeah it is doing my six today isn't it yes it is it is yeah it's yeah it's
It's hard kind of because I was kind of a blue dot, a little blue droplet and like we see a red.
And I tell you that week after the election was kind of rough because you had a bunch of people around you slapping each other's backs.
And I told my mom, because, you know, she used to be a conservative.
She was a conservative Republican my entire life until about six years ago.
And then she realized she was getting left behind.
in the party.
And I told her, I said, because, you know, in Missouri, the abortion issue was on the
ballot, the women's health was, and that got passed.
And I said, this tells me that it was never about abortion.
Because, no, I did not see one single conservative person boohooing that abortion passed
in Missouri.
Not one person was like, oh, no, like the babies.
No, they were like, yay, Trump.
So I was like, you didn't care.
Yeah.
Like, it showed it was never about it.
It was never about the women's rights.
And it's unfortunate because a lot of people are starting to feel left behind.
And it's one of the good things, like, I'm almost concerned about because, like, in what I'm, like, in what I read,
I wrote a very strong woman and she's never been married, you know, that kind of thing.
And I was like, the things I wrote could probably get my book canceled in like a crappy version of American future.
Right.
I'd be awful.
But, you know, I, oh, well.
I wrote it how I wanted it.
And I'm just going to be a piece with that.
All right.
Yeah.
Good deal.
I guess that's the way I should approach.
this podcast is I've gone
after Donnie quite a few times on the
podcast already
but abortion
I live on the Kansas side of the
stand line and
right after Roe was
taken down
abortion was on the
ballot here and
abortion got
it's protected
in Kansas
yeah
It's supposed to be protected in Missouri now, too.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Yeah, congratulations there, but we'll have to win and see, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's kind of a crazy time to be alive.
You know what I mean?
We're just seeing so much drastic change happen really quickly.
And I'm glad we got that one passed because we had so many bad trigger laws that get,
went into a vaccine road back overturned.
Right.
And they were trying to do away with the no fault, like some of the Missouri lawmakers
were trying to do away with the no fault divorce.
I was like, so you can't get divorced if you're pregnant.
You want to take abortion away and you want to do away with no fault divorce.
It's like trap desperate people forever.
Like, I was like, oh my gosh.
it felt like a predator's dream and like everybody else's nightmare yeah yeah my parents divorced when
i was 12 and uh who knows how they will have gone have they not divorced you know
mine divorced when i was an infant i was a baby so i like my dad was never in the picture but like
I know enough about him to know that my life probably would have been worse off if they had been.
So.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
My dad's still alive.
And my mom passed away a few years ago.
And, yeah, I definitely see it with my dad.
And if he had raised me, I probably, if it had done more to raise me, I probably would have been a much worse situation, I think.
and uh and uh so yeah having never been married myself i i i can't i can't speak to how that would
be how that would have affected me or any potential children uh from that point of view because
i've never never been through that versus myself mark mark has a bad luck than anything and
So, yeah, we should probably talk about your book a little bit.
Yeah.
It's easy to talk about a lot of stuff with so much about stuff going on.
Yeah.
But my book is called Born Out of Darkness by me, Amanda Stacy.
And it is about, like I said, I kind of came across her on TikTok,
with the mythological Lilith.
And the more I researched her, she was just like the boogie woman of like the beginning
of time.
And her original
story was that she wouldn't be submissive
to Adam and like in bed
and stuff and I was like, ugh.
Like first off, like for that to be
your legacy. I was like,
this is just not how I would picture it.
And so I
kind of reimagined it.
And like I said, it's
a dual timeline book.
So you get to see her
history as well as where she is now.
and so for me I wrote the book because I was trying to try to find my purpose in life
I was a stay-at-home mom and my identity had become mom and I was actually really falling
into depression because of it I was I felt invisible and I just I just didn't know who I was
anymore all sense of self was gone and when I finally decided to start writing because
it'd always been a passion of mine I really found that I liked it and so
I was able to crank out this book in six months, and then, you know, six months for, like, editing and other stuff like that.
But it, it's a, it's about a strong, like, woman, and she's literally been around since before time existed.
And she was the first woman in this book.
Take it how you will.
It's complete fiction.
So I went at it from, like, growing up Christian, I understand this is fiction.
Like, I'm not trying to say this is how it was.
but yeah it's it's kind of the her past kind of explains why she is the way she is now
and her current timeline um she she kind of finds this girl she's you know monster hunting
if you're immortal and can do whatever you want why would you monster hunt you know and she
finds this girl and they end up kind of being friends and they kind of get stuck together for a
while and it is it's kind of a story about her fighting her inner darkness while she's trying
to help someone and that person is directly bringing kind of bringing her inner darkness out
I guess you could say but um yeah and I'm working on a second one um but after I finished the book
I when I
one month away from publishing
I found that I was pregnant with another kid
and like all my
creativity like drained out of me
and so I just kind of had to put a pause
on writing and once I was
kind of out of the sleep deprivation
part of babyhood I
went back to writing but we're
I'm working on it
it takes time but
yes it does it really does
yeah so
I kind of had fun with it and
for like you know your mythology and sci-fi people um i i literally threw like everyone in
that i wanted to there are vampires there are werewolves lucifer plays a pretty big part
i got like galahad the night and merlin the wizard in there and it's kind of a fun like just
just different cameos from mythology because i love that sounds a lot of
like, are you in the board gaming at all?
Not particular.
Okay, so, because this does sound a lot like the apprentice behind my favorite board game, which is smash up, where you take two different decks.
One could be vampires, one could be werewolves, one could be the knights at a round table, and just put them together and you see, well, which pairings will do best against which other pairings?
That sounds fun.
yeah that's kind of sound like this what i did i didn't book form yeah so yeah yeah and book a book
form uh version of uh that game yeah so yeah next next you know you'll be writing a cathulu
into the to the thing it is but it's public domain folks so you could do it you could do it if you
wanted to yeah yeah and uh you
And I guess we could
We do have a few more minutes left
We could touch
Going back to Star Trek
Did you ever get into any other series
Like DS9 and Voyager
And the newer stuff?
I was one of those people
I always went back
I could have watched the newer stuff
But I always went back to my comfort
Of like the older ones
I don't know why
I just loved them so much
Both the original Star Trek
And the Star Trek Mentioned generation
And they were just like my favorite.
I think just because I grew up with them.
But it's hard to let go with those.
Right.
I think, yeah, with Voyager, especially because woman captain.
Yeah, I think I've seen it on one of my streaming platforms.
And I just never actually took the plunge to watch it.
You should.
There's also a great podcast is called the Delta Flyers.
and that's two Voyager cast members
going back and re-watching all the Voyager
and talking about it, yeah.
I,
a non-related one I really
got into was the Stargate one.
That one was, I loved that show
because I never actually saw it when it came out.
I had seen the Stargate movie.
Right.
And then like we kind of stumbled across it,
scrolling for what to watch next
and I found Stargate 1
and that show
my mind was like
this show's amazing
aliens and all kinds of star
portals
yeah
all my family's into
like the fantasy
and the science fiction
so I'm into everything
from like
Lord of the Rings
and Chronicles of Narnia
to like a
Star Trek, Stargate.
Firefly was one.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was a good one.
Yeah, Firefly was great.
They didn't make more of that.
Yeah.
Too short-lived, but yeah, great
stuff, yes.
It was.
All right.
Well, I want to thank you for
taking some time
I have this
interesting day, shall we say.
and uh well when when the earth decides to just drop a pound you know put a snow on yet doesn't make
interesting right all right um thanks for your time and uh look forward to talking soon too
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