This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Discussion on 2024 Elections with Andrew Rainey

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Apologies to the rest of the world for our bad electoral decisions in 2024. In light of the disaster that was the 2024 election cycle, Friend of the Podcast Andrew Rainey returns to discuss with Mike what happened.

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Can't you see there's so much more laughs and tales you can't ignore A journey that will leave you floor In the night or in the day Just press play we're on our way Everybody, welcome to the podcast, Andrew Rainey. And we're going to talk about this election that just happened. First before I get to the meet of the things, I won't apologize to anyone outside of the United States who might be listening.

we messed up and that's what we're talking about today. And I want to start by reading a post-election statement from Bernie Sanders. Dated November 6th, 2024 out of Burlington, Vermont. Senator Bernie Sanders Independent Vermont today released the following statements in response to the outcome of the 2024 presidential election. It should come as no surprise that a Democratic Party, which has abandoned working class people, would find that the working class has abandoned to them.

First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the state, status quo, the American people are angry and wants change, and they're right. Today, while the very rich are doing phenomenally well, 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, and we have more income and wealth inequality than ever before. Unbelievably, real inflation adjusted for weekly wages for the average American worker are actually lower now than they were 50 years ago. Today, despite an explosion in technology and worker productivity, many young people would

have a worse standard of living than their parents. And many of them worry that artificial intelligence and robotics will make a bad situation of even worse. Today, despite spending far more per capita than other countries, we remain the only wealthy nation not to to guarantee health care to all as a human right, and we pay by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. We alone among major countries cannot even guarantee paid family and medical leave. Today, despite strong opposition from a majority of Americans, we continue to spend billions funding the extremists Netanyahu governments all at against the Palestinian people, which has led to the horrific humanitarian disaster of mass

malnutrition and the starvation of thousands of children. Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions Americans are experiencing, do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not. In the coming weeks and months, those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions stay tuned and we're about to have one of those discussions

right now yeah i remember i had to actually go to his website to read that i mean over the last eight years the social media is pretty much um kind of just like mass media or mainstream media kind of um it's hard to find he doesn't show up on your feed but yeah he had kind of a general calling out there. I can't remember the last words, but I phrased it kind of interesting and a bipartisan kind of everyone kind of thing. But yeah, I mean, the white working class,

that's kind of one thing that media, I think, once again, kind of focused on and that kind of like the 08 Obama people who then didn't really show up in 2012 or maybe went from, in particular, I think it was the Obama-08 to the Trump 2016 people. But yeah, I mean, Bernie always, especially the 2020 campaign,

kind of have that whole coalition on that so yeah but um that yeah pretty much agree with them we could kind of elaborate on all those kind of various things on certain to count but yeah i think it will so first of all um some of the i do put some of the blame on biden but probably not for the reason that a lot of the media would have you a believe because the media are saying he messed up by stepping down later than he did. I'm of the opinion he messed up in 2020 when he named Harris's VP in the first place. Let's be honest,

of the cannons that stepped up for present in 2020, she was the least prepared. She came off as an empty suit, didn't know what the hell she was talking about on anything, really. And that perception in my mind, never really went away, all right? She reminded me

a lot of some of the Democrats that have been getting elected here locally. I don't name names, because you know who I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Harris, they were trying to basically kind of push kind of an establishment candidate since all the way

back in 16. And so you know, it's kind of one of those triangulated, a bunch of polls, trying to figure out everything. I mean, she herself's a pretty good person, but it's just the kind of pressure around her and being kind of told what to do, kind of a very structured, very establishment, very big donor.

And it was just kind of all set up. It came, I was really no surprise when Biden picked Harris as the VP. Like it was to happen, basically. It was designed. It's like a script or kind of like a movie. They were basically, they kind of democratic establishment, was kind of just planning this,

whole time. So, yeah. But yeah, I think Cardi B made a pretty good statement as well, and yet Biden needed a drop out sooner. I believe I could probably dig up as well, but he said he'd only be serving for four years, I believe, when he was running in 2020 as well. He said he wouldn't be a two-term president, whatever that's supposed to mean. I could have to dig out of that. I think that was his initial plan was, yeah, I'll just run for four years, turn it over to the next. And then Donnie did decided, well, I'm about to go to jail. So to avoid prison time, I'm going to announce I'm running. All right.

I think that is the primary reason, despite being a convict. All right, then let's keep that mind, folks, that Donnie is a convict. For four counts, he should be in prison for the rest of his life, but no, he found a way to get out of prison and yeah yeah that's kind of one of the big things as well a lot of business people do that especially but when you when you get into politics it's yeah you're gonna things change you know but um yeah it's yeah I think that was one thing and then Biden said since Trump's running he wanted to defeat Trump so he was going to stay in it but I mean yeah like his health was deteriorating for a while the president

who will do that to you as well. Remember, like Obama, like, you could see it on his face, like eight years. Yeah, eight years, yeah. But, yeah, I think that was the main thing. But not having a Democratic primary, I think, was another, once again, was just like a setup. But, yeah, it didn't help Harris at all. It depressed our voter turnout enormously. We didn't kind of do our cat herding, so to speak.

We didn't really kind of, the big tent party, didn't reach out and try to get a coalition. They ran a really focused campaign. They didn't want high voter turnout. Voter turnout actually favored the Republican for the first time in my voting life, 40. But yeah, that hurt. So once again, there should be something kind of an organic discussion, but the fact that they're kind of setting things up and this is the way it's going to be. And then it kind of is also quite authoritarian,

which kind of really nulligates your whole Trump's a fascist kind of thing when you're being fascist flight, basically. or trying to instill someone. So, I mean, that didn't help at all. And so when people are, you know, so. But, yeah, there's lots of things. You can go down the list on it as well. And they kind of did the typical, well, we don't need the grassroots.

We'll go towards our donors. And it's like, you know, you threw about a billion dollars in the election. You still lost, you can't just buy things, you know, including democracy. So, yeah. And, but yeah, I mean, it was the first time we lost the popular vote by like four or five million people. it hasn't been that way since I said my entire voting life I voted Kerry was my first election so yeah

mine was Clinton the second time around yeah they do remember those days you know it was born down the Reagan days which really a lot of things started to shift yeah really really Carter was also like yeah but Carter still cast a vote on this one as well

after he turned a hundred years old which is pretty impressive but yeah you touch on a couple things yeah Republican like that's a big that's a big thing and that's the same

sense I get from the aforementioned local Democrats who are getting elected a lot of them former Republicans themselves all right and in talking about to have

that his whole idea that America has shifted to the right yeah a lot of it can be blamed on Reagan for pushing his tax cuts for the wealthiest to help with the middle and working class and the poor. Yeah, that's what our wealth inequality started, like Bernie was saying as well, and it hasn't been this bad since the 20s, and then we all know the preceding two decades there as well. And it really skyrocketed during COVID, and Trump personally led as well.

but the bill outs as well just went to corporate pockets the billionaires just you know got even richer meanwhile small businesses were just being bought up a series of checks yeah and not for a whole lot that's when it really ballooned you I mean but yeah Reagan would be another point and yeah I think we far surpassed the 20s you know but yeah of course inevitably leaves her great depression you know just like a bubble that's going to burst like the housing market right which was I believe 30 some trillion dollars but yeah there was a burning lead um kind of a bargain but it was an odd partial out of the fed the reserved would happen during that financial crisis and yeah it's about

12 trillion dollar bill out two trillion immediately got back but yeah um so yeah there's a lot of economic worries on that note but um yeah and saying on the right for example there's also this demonization of those of us on the left as uh were anti-american and we're evil and stuff like that also goes back to that Reagan when a certain person by the name of Rush Limbaugh started spewing his mouth and and really that's the birth of the right-wing media ecosystem that has a I think contributed to this situation as well and and And then on the political side of things, you have Newt Gingrich. Way became Speaker in 1994, gone and then impeaching Clinton for bullshit reasons.

And, yeah, he was impeached for getting a beau job. Yeah, not job-related. Something that's kind of humiliating. It reminds me a lot with the pro-choice stuff as well. on that. It's kind of a trolling technique, but it's, I mean, it's the hardest decision women's ever have to make in their life sometimes. And it's very sensitive. It was ruled private by the Supreme Court. Basically, you're not allowed to have access to those because they're private medical records. So having something don't display like that, just talking about your sexual life on stage, which is something the LGBTQI community, too, kind of gets put through as well. They get put on a pedestal. That's something we could all agree is pretty private. Yeah. It's maybe a few exceptions. But, like, yeah. um it's it's really not relative to anything but yeah um yeah um but yeah kind of the weaponization or systems i've always been kind of adversarial but things are just becoming increasingly

partisan as well yeah and it's yeah calling the other side freighters and whatnot there's really it's what you kind of call a hyperpartisan or a hyper dichotomy right it's extremely it's bad or kind of and like i said the right wing media um It doesn't help either. There's a, yeah, the people that started with Rushland Baugh, they moved on to Fox News and all these other right-wing media outlets. And can we stop with this whole mainstream media? It's liberal. Nonsense.

All right. Again, I worked in media. I worked in public television, you know. about as nonpartisan an outlet as it gets and let's be honest our mainstream media outside of public television outside of public radio they're all owned by corporations corporations have their profit motives and they're not going to talk about things that are going to undercut that bottom line so we need to stop I think that's another way we need to change things in this country.

We need to stop with this liberal media bias bullshit. Yeah, there's a lot kind of that going on. Yeah, they're trying to sell the product and kind of the old term, yellow journalism, kind of more of a scholarly term,

but it's kind of sensational as well. Remember, like a lot of the coverage following October 7th, for instance, as well. It's just really just, once again, it's a technique, but you get to people's emotions, which is something you see more on the right as well. They prey on people's emotions.

considered the left, there's some polling or studies that suggest it's more logical based. Yeah, no one has any critical thinking as well. Like, look at fake news. In the 90s, you have these tabloids and no one thought they were real. Now people see that stuff, and for whatever reason they're believing it. So, I mean,

there's something kind of going on with our minds here. But yeah, and then yeah, I mean, it's on by all that as well, you know? Like, I mean, they gave a bunch of negative coverage of Trump, but they gave a bunch of coverage. The whole saying, there's no such thing as bad press.

And so that really elevated him. Whereas Bernie Sanders, they completely gaslight him, completely ignored him, tried to pretend. And that's actually how you defeat someone. I mean, their tactic they actually helping Trump, even though it might not see, like, it just giving him that amount of press. And, you know, I mean, yeah, and people point to Fox News. But, yeah, it's, but yeah, I don't know what to go in the media.

I mean, there used to be laws, I guess, maybe to look at that. But journalists used to be. kind of journalist, you know, like Walter Cronkite days. They used to really not, used to be kind of dry, you know, kind of cut to the chase, really no bias at speak. I think one of my favorite reporters as well, which is a switch from Fox News to MS, the MC, but it was kind of Ellison Barber, her coverage as well up October. It's just very cut, dry, very to the point. There's no interjecting kind of an angle or anything like that into it. But yeah, there's a few other ones as well and you can see on mainstream media I saw some of them too like you know

they would disobey the orders so to speak you'd see that a lot on both the kind of mainstream channels and yeah one cool one was on Fox News where they were mentioning immigration and how most of the linguation actually comes through Canada including Hispanic immigration which is what we're talking about and why people are saying it's kind of it's not comprehensive we're not talking about border security or immigration we're talking about South America and Mexicans and Latinos and it's yeah yeah and that's and that's okay I guess why people wants to come to the United States you know because there's not a whole lot of

opportunity south of the border all right I get that but they tried to the right especially try to paint it as a bigger issue than it actually is you know it's really not that big an issue but also points to the whole racism thing and and I'm not so we can't dismiss racism entirely all right all right so yes racism did pay our parts in this election cycle and that's what that's another factor because it it was a whole lot of things that affected to turnouts and the votes and everything but racism was one of those things i i still remember 2008s doing a campaign call for the obama campaign we're republicans we ain't phone for no fucking yep and then actually use the

end word which i will not repeat ever on this podcast so oh i remember yeah there was kind of come out of the closet 2000s was kind of another surge as well and then kind of reacting to Obama. But yeah, it's kind of the typical pointing to the other you know kind of a billion so to speak which is like racism is a tenet of kind of fascism and authoritarian if you knock out that leg it really

can't stand without having a boogeyman and some sort of so to speak. But yeah, it's just one thing that was kind of played on there. Anti-black, anti-Hispanic, anti-Muslim. Those three groups in particular And, uh, it's not all Republicans, but there's a faction there that kind of switched over in the

60s. And yeah, I remember too, like early 2000s again with a Iraq, Afghanistan, technically a war. We haven't had one, I think, since Korea. But anyways, um, yeah, they kind of got better on it, too, but kind of addressing it. But yeah, um, yeah, I don't know. But then they kind of, they, I mean, The Democrats tried to get a campaign on that and play that angle, but I don't know what was going on with that. I guess the thought that came to my head as well is it's kind of getting worse as well. Things like the social media is kind of allowed, like, kind of gets into some other stuff, but it's kind of allowed like an echo chamber, and it's really, it's getting bad.

It was kind of a marginalized thing in society. Now there's an actual political faction there, and I'm kind of wondering how much sway it'll have. but yeah it was you would really kind of noticed as well until like after there's a lot of things that happened in 2016 like after Trump was elected that kind of kind of threw

some things into question around some bells yeah but um but yeah I don't know like yeah but here's the thing about

the Muslim I'll just because I touched on that we got time of you know we did the podcast that's Casey Fridge this year right and our last guest was a woman from Palestine or rather she has a Palestinian father and had been to Gaza a couple of times and talked about it's just how horrific it is and actually still has family there and if I get it's thrown in jail or deported

because of what I'm about to say, so be it. But I don't want my tax dollars going anymore to supporting a fucking genocide. And same, and I am going to throw Ukraine into this

because technically what's going on there could also be classed genocide. I'd rather my tax dollars go there to save Ukraine and uh because uh that's just wrong too all right what israel is doing is wrong and what's Russia is doing is wrong yeah um still there's a lot of Ukraine but yeah the Israel-Palestine conflict was kind of one of those good things the kind of media I think kind of hyper-focused on um but um Yeah, it's kind of, I think what we're saying, Carthenian siege, but yeah, they're basically denying resources.

They've done in a while, which denies economic envelopments. Like Bernie mentioned, too, it's starvation. Biden actually forcibly opened up a dock, and we were doing pair drops to provide food to prevent that. Kind of, who knows what would have happened if we didn't do that, but I'm going to guess the calculations were made that a lot of people were going to die. but yeah it is a very big issue it's kind of been a big issue kind of compartmentalizing things

but yeah it's going on for a while I mean you could look back to on that kind of where the founding is well and I think another thing that Trump did as well when you move the capital to Jerusalem which the original UN plan was to have that be a internationally governed city because of the religious sensitivity

so that's basically you're basically kind of basically starting something so to speak you should be no surprise if something's going to happen once you do that I mean to kind of thumb your nose or kind of

turn your back after doing something like that is kind of suspicious I think some the circles as well the birdie circles there's some report as well I have yet to review as far as I'm kind of tactically letting it happen or something like that yeah i mean outside of that too once again they picked up on that as being the big wedge issue

and i think that is a big issue but i think there's also a lot going on you remember like the sheriff's race for instance we had that same 10% dissent and that that's like with right in there's no democrat running i think you and me and some other people were like well go in there for a name on the ballot but um anyways like that's kind of a thing and also it's 20 i think with the votes the primary here as well but 25% dissent with Trump in the state as well and I think the kind of people elect them as well there's also very suppressed Republican turnout a lot of it you had mentioned well Republicans are kind of coming into the Democratic Party it's kind of moving almost becoming a moderate Republican Party in a way it really is it really is

they've pushed progressives outs and uh or are they made it so that progressives couldn't get well, yeah, that's been true for a while now. I mean, I'm loving proof that progressives against gets elected around here. As is friend of the podcast, Amy Bell,

you know, both ran for office. We both ran against people significantly to the right of us and who got the support or the person to the that's for their right,

you know? yeah it's kind of a whole and you mentioned 16 again Hillary Clinton someone raised Goldwater Republican ran against Bernie yeah she'd play it back

but yeah she had a it was kind of an emblem I think she actually went to like one of King's speech as well but yeah it was kind of a star contrast but yeah on that one actually I think it was Mitch McConnell and Bernie were that actually only people had ever marched with King But once again, that was the 60s, and as I said, the Democrats were, yeah, that's kind of where everything switched.

Yeah, the big party switched, yeah. Well, we obviously what happened, the Republicans, like, were kind of guaranteed the black vote, so to speak, which you can kind of see now a little bit, and then they weren't doing anything. It was just kind of assumed on, you know, maybe some peanuts were tossed, but, and then so, yeah. And then LBJ signs the Civil Rights Act, and that's when the party switch actually happened. assassination. Yeah, yeah, I think that, and when you come out with something there, yeah, Trump tried to. He kind of, like, tried to opt him the Black Lives Matter thing, which was kind of interesting. But that kind of angle as well. You always own that campaign from the streets as well, and there was quite a bit of Republican Trump

and the police support initially as well before the shifts. Yeah, it's a little bit different, but it's similar as well. on that note but yeah yeah back to that yeah I don't know it's another thing too reminds me of like

it's kind of like a polished thing as well but it's kind of I want to call it kind of like superficial politics but like these typical campaigns as well like compared to Bernie they don't really take a stance on issues won't want to talk about anything identify kind of run a bland leave to the imagination campaign

spend a lot of time on makeup and public speaking and stuff and don't really get into anything. Since it's local without naming names, like for one race, you know, I approach both candidates, and one's like, I approach them about an issue,

and they're like, well, I'll look into it. I'll go there and I'm going to see what's going on. The other one's like, let me know when you want to campaign, and I'm like trying to see where you stand on something and see if you'll, you know, once elected, do anything. And so, but yeah, it was, you know. I think you can take a guess who campaigned

number two might have been or some like that so but yeah you mentioned sheriff so that that's at least one positive we can talk about that we're going to have a Democratic sheriff in this county the DA race though so I mean that's one thing that's going on right now as well so I have to give me a second filter myself but um yeah the DA race too because you can investigate something but when you put like this is a public comment from an Ovalin Park public council meeting

or public safety committee meeting sorry after rewire my speech after some car accidents but anyways they were discussing like white color crime you know like embezzlement like a lot of the stuff

were seeing what Trump's basically stacking 30 something felony counsel but yeah but they put it to this DA and they won't do anything but I saw Steve Howe I believe. And, yeah, who knows why, you know, it's, well.

I think Vanessa had come to one of the party meetings and kind of get a breakdown on that as well. And we have a campaigned there at the last minute as well. A lot of, I saw some YouTube ads for other stuff as well. There's kind of an interesting push there. But yeah, but we do have a sheriff, so that is kind of historic as well. I mean, sheriff and treasurer are kind of things that are kind of partisan. You don't really see a lot of Democrats there, you know.

You can see them pick up, man. or governor's seats and stuff. But yeah, that's a criminal justice in general, I think, and very interesting thing going on. As far as locally, I think those were the two races to pay attention to. I don't even think I looked at the exact numbers, but it looks to be where things are going on there as well. Right.

Other than, of course, I think Laura Kelly, I think out of pack and a bunch of other people trying to break that super majority, which I think barely fell across the board. It did. It kind of gets a little weird when there's those thin margins. So, yeah, four more years. at least marijuana will be illegal in Kansas. Oh, yeah.

I mean, we're kind of surrounded on that one. But, yeah, I think eventually as well, I think marijuana legalization as well. I think there's just a bunch of corporate interests waiting to kind of corner the market. After a call from 16, that was a issue I ran on. Yeah, I think it's kind of a big one as well. It's kind of anti-authoritarian.

It's a single issue as well. So kind of get voter turnout, you know. It's kind of what they call a touch and feel issue. if you yourself know or know someone, I think in Kansas a lot of it was the medical side as well. It's kind of where the polling suggested as well. Yeah.

Or Kansas wanted it. And I've been at some doors too. And some people are like, yeah, I just don't want to smell or zoning thing, maybe something like that. They didn't mind as long as it kind of wasn't in their face, so to speak. But yeah, the medical was pretty big. Yeah. But yeah, I think that's always an interesting one.

I think of Northwest as well kind of drugs in general there's a lot of those nationally as well but just marijuana but drugs prostitution gambling as well

there's been quite a bit activity on gambling as well Missouri just legalized sports gambling which has been legal here for a couple of years but now they can do it across the same line

and it sounds like they best that amendments to decriminalize abortion in Missouri as well again so then right after a row fell was on the ballot here and we said oh we want to keep abortion rights for women in Kansas and yeah quite a bit of attention we wouldn't really know here because we don't have the right to petition to have things on the ballot the The legislature has to do that. Yeah, that's a quirk of the Kansas way of doing things

because Missouri, yeah, you can put stuff on the balance. It's kind of been a, yeah, there's a lot of progressive ballot initiatives that have passed, which just, once again, I think, kind of just reveals a very hyper-partisan atmosphere. Missouri's kind of very dissatisfied with the Democrats. Leclair McCatschool race, I think, kind of really exemplified that. Once again, nice person, nothing against her. But like the campaign staff, the apparatus, who has your ears?

They were kind of wrong on everything. They were opting to. They were like, oh, nothing like this will win. And then the ballot initiatives, which they're saying would never work, are like two to one. So you're wrong. Or your advisors are wrong, I should say. But, yeah.

But yeah, I remember them reaching out as well. We used to have R-R-R-R-R-R- here as well, which, of course, it's kind of a big blue dot in the sea. We're kind of here. And then they split along state lines, which, of course, kind of diminished things here as well. A lot of the Bernie support are the kind of burning wings kind of faded off since 2016 and kind of seeing things kind of cycle in the party there. But, yeah, I mean, we had basically a store kind of swept the undecided. So it was about a third Hillary or whatnot.

And then basically got two to one basically throughout the state. It was about to be 75%. and CD4 and there's some weird stuff that happened I have some reports of I don't know appropriate or not

talk about wanted to get into like phones in the sports gambling Wichita why we can't have nice things in this state

I swear to God Cook brothers Masterson Wagle I could go on yeah and Trump had a pick from there as well

he came here to kind of save face as well on the Hillary campaign yeah the Hillary campaign as well but in office

in Lawrence because they're about to be non-viable candidate they barely hit once again that oddly hit exactly 15% to have any delegation from the main block of Lawrence which is just fascinating place by the way a lot going on there it always has been it's been burned down twice it's more Lawrence but gerrymandered into the first district yeah Wyandah got put in with CD1 and then they tried to grew over Sharis as well moving it down south she just picked up support was that a 20-point victory he just loved her time there so it's like yeah

And once again, Lexington is a great person as well. She is, she is. I mean, the campaign apparatus as well, she seems to kind of push back up against a little bit. I see a few policy positions here and there. I think she'll kind of distance herself a little bit there, which is also just kind of a Kansas thing as well. I think we're kind of, but when I was campaigning as well,

I'd be on Johnson County Democrats, Kansas Democrats. You know, I distanced myself from the DNC and a lot of the federal stuff going on. but yeah it's that way as well you know like take Republicans for instance and like Montana Republicans are very different than a lot of other Republicans

like it's yeah it's different or Vermont as well it's kind of a unique Republican governor as well yeah the only independent in the country which was a big thing with Bernie as well with a hyperpartisan atmosphere being an independent really that was a lot of our support

like double digits probably just having those kind of crats so to speak Sure. Yeah, I did this election. Yeah, I did vote, but I wrote in Bernie for president. That was my protests, you know. Fuck Donnie, fuck Harris. I'm just going to vote my conscience,

and my conscience says right in Bernie. Yeah, there's still a lot of right-ins on that. I did vote. I didn't vote in the primary. Probably should have, considering the DA race. but as I said, I've had a lot of health issues as well, so I wasn't ready to kind of able to jump in this one. During my idea, some pole watching or something.

The last one I kind of jumped in as well was 2020. It went down to Georgia. After I beat COVID, it was sort of immunized. Decided to go down there. Actually, follow the trail of tears in reverse. I think most of the paths as well, back and forth twice there. But anyways, and now it's kind of the last time

I was able to do anything on that. Of course, with our reps, but I think Black Lives Matter, but that's kind of different. It's protests, if you ever had protests. Your kind of really point is to draw attention. There was a lot of policy that I think came out of that as well and stuff and some other things, I guess I would say, you know, kind of revealing.

I think that's another thing. As I said, it wasn't, there was, I think the Nguerger's kind of came in there. I want to say collectively, but some people, with Democrats and try to like they kind of move that campaign while attacking it too at the same time and try to get voter registration and people kind of mobilized and that's where I really think you call kind of started seeing a lot of anti-Trump stuff but a lot of that was this segment of the Trumpers who are basically used the R word but yeah um bigoted prejudice you know yeah we saw a lot

of that you know like I saw I've chosen to start using them term the phrase willfully ignorance yeah a lot of people just don't know but yeah there was kind of a segment there as well and I think it would probably say there have been Trump voters but yeah that was kind of the one things were up against like the proud boys here

which is another kind of thing in the local elections when they cropped down on some protesters I didn't get to attend that one but later they ended up finding out that they did that because of the proud boys who said well if you don't come in and shut these pronouns we will so the cops arrested protesters targeting

the lawyer right off the bat we had lost some good people citizens of the city um county they moved away because of that they kind of got scared out of town by some frankly you know bigoted white boys right and yeah and then some other things too like trump like basically hired a hit squad on this one guy who was but the legalities i think he was attacked with pepper spray someone had a knife and he opened fire smirky on whether or not self-defense or not but no trial I think marshals around with in coordination allegedly with not law enforcement came in and essentially assassinated someone on American soil like yeah pretty bad but yeah I was kind of going on back into that but I think you're to stay focused yeah back to

the local elections and yeah kind of like I was saying like I've had health issues so I wasn't really able to jump in right some people might also have health issues or kind of did their service time, so to speak, but a lot of people just didn't care, as I said. And I think you just really saw that. A lot of the big talking point, people are saying 20 million, but I think my math shows 16, 17 million last votes in 2020. You know, the first time Democrats are, I'm still registered Democrat, have lost the popular vote. And yeah, I mean, like on the presidential election as well, like it's, this, state wasn't going to flip. There's some polling that showed

that's different than the election results. That's another part of the reason I felt safe to... That's another reason I felt safe to right in Barney was... It's not a swing state, yeah. So people are going at each other's throats and I've seen a little bit of that as well but it's like this isn't a swing state like there was some polling there where Harris was behind seven. I think I'd saw that as well with Hillary

months before the election once again seven points the election day results were very different there's only one polling that showed the state flipping and that was Bernie versus Trump 2016 even then from a good campaign end without discussing internal campaign stuff but it probably wasn't going to happen once again it just kind of forces their numbers here

but we had some ideas on how to flip the state if you one's interested but yeah like they say just again public information on media as well like unless we can get rural house reach we've got like a blue county now we swept the condition seats locally yeah I saw I saw that Adios O'Hara yeah

get the F out here and yeah maybe I'll finally get that petition turned into Mike Kelly but hey let's see about getting some rail in Johnson County you know the street rail yeah some light rail or street car or something

get us off of transition us of cars men and in and you know those expensive yeah they're they're planning on that with the developments but I'm weary as well as far as of being green mainly because in a time we have massive wealth inequality like people's houses and people's cars and their financial assets particularly their houses but their cars as well if you've got a nice car you also kind of have ten thousand dollars in the bank you have some collateral you know which

can get you some capital to kind of invest stuff not like small business can really take on the Titans right now and that's right enforce antitrust law for once as funny you mentioned cars because I've been had a lot of car troubles myself particularly this year yeah yeah I know a little bit of work I've mainly worked on Honda's but yeah

you have the going off to I but yeah the delivery vehicles as well I kind of have to find an old they call granny car but which basically low mileage and low year because a lot of your depreciation is how old the car is it still runs just as good but if it's old low minus that's the one you look for yeah I can talk about that

with you later but yeah um but yeah those apps are just horrible as well they're low way low they're the minimum wage and a lot of it too they're making our money off an oil subsidy basically because it's like we have a car that costs maybe 20 30 cents a mile to run but we're getting a tax deduction there and so we have no social security credit we have no retirement as well and the government as well isn't going to be properly funded you know like I remember someone who voted for Trump as well but they were like um he's saying like they're not going to tax overtime work and it's like 40 hour work week but also like we have to pay for that you know remember brownback which is one of the reasons were wildly popular is because the state really didn't like brownback

lowest approval rating in the nation but yeah it also bankrupted otherwise pretty good in kansas economics we kind of had money in the bank for a while and kind of put us into the red we're still kind of trying to run off that we use and kind of uh kansas democrats i guess you would say. But yeah, we do a lot of that coat-tail writing, and a lot of people are just kind of scared to take policy positions like Bernie did, like Field of Burn, great policy team, like, especially rule as well. You know, if you look at like the farm program as well, I remember from Iowa or some other

instances, some other examples of policy, I could kind of sift through, kind of prove my point, but yeah, just took a stance on just about everything. Right. There wasn't any, I don't know what they're going to do. it's like, here's where it stands, this is what I'm going to try to do, you know, they can do. It was very open and transparent in that regard, but also swept rural Democrats enormously, I believe, at least in 2016. Butiging, for some reason, in Iowa. That was a whole other mess.

As I've been telling people, we were instructed to do math by hand because our cell phones wouldn't be trustworthy. But, yeah, so, yeah, I don't know what happened in Iowa as well. I heard Brown was gang. there as well but I think the DNC as well kind of pointed to Iowa Democrats decided to use cell phones to tabulate vote counties and I'll digress I'll get that stuff to the campaign they're already aware of it as well if they haven't made a public but on that note as well to try to cover myself here but yeah like a lot of things like that Bernie made a good point as well and he's like

I'm gonna have to do with these things privately because he doesn't want people he doesn't suppress voter turnout doesn't want to people to think that their vote doesn't count. You still have to get out there. It still matters. In 2016, I got a lot of alternate delegates and delegates throughout the state there because it's like they still need to show up to show over there. I can guarantee you it mattered. It sent waves. All of a sudden, I wasn't allowed access to Missouri delegates. All of a sudden they're saying, depending on who shows up, we're not going to change delegate count. But also another thing that was happening during that time is the Hillary people didn't care. They weren't inspired anymore. And so some of them weren't going to show up

district level it actually in Missouri happened as well and they just the party decided to make the rules up on the fly and we're like just like here we're like well it doesn't matter actually it does it's in your your laws we would have had I think it happened in several states but yeah we have people there who care and also yeah yeah so there was kind of a tactical thing when sort of leaked started happening the a lot of Hillary delegates were just kind of wanting to just decided to not show up but Anyway, sorry. Yeah.

So, again, back to 16, back to what they did with me, you know. I know we've had this discussion before about the volunteer who allegedly was on people. Yeah. So I did have an expert on the podcast. I think I shared that episode with you where he said that what that volunteer did, could possibly be a crime if we ever figured out who it was. Yeah, the statute of limitations.

Statue of limitations would kick in here too because that was 2016, we're now in 2024 and going into 2025. Basically what happens there. It's the same a lot with misinformation or fake news, I guess, depending on what you want to say. But it was a joke, right?

That's what they're going to say. If I was kind of anticipating legal arguments there, it's the same thing as I mentioned, with misinformation or fake news is a lot of it's labeled satire and so they're able to spread it unless you look at the bottom. It's the same in the 90s with the National Enquirer. It has this

warning, this is satire label. But they had a comical thing to their voice as well for the people there. I think one person had pressed them on him and like, I don't actually have to sign this again in the caucus like, oh no, I'm just joking. But it's still a way to... Comedy is also kind of a way of testing boundaries

and exploring things. Which is a right... Does a very piss-bore job that's uh if we're talking about comedy but uh but yeah yeah the jokes are but yeah i'm still uh yeah it's too bad we never figured found out who the volunteer question was oh i do know but i do remember for she said they're an elected representative he's an elected representative so i know who the volunteer who was doing that was i remember their face but yeah um If it's who I think it is, yeah, can we get someone to run against him? Talk to him as well.

Yeah. Well, once again, kind of getting into details, you're playing this little game. But, yeah, there was a primary involved with this Johnson County race. But, yeah, it's kind of, it's also kind of things went away as, but the Trumppers, I guess, is what I call. did as well and they yeah get involved with the primaries whereas around here also locally there's another race I heard once again you know rumor you have to be verified before we're going to do anything which also not to name it but anyways it was a race where one party official told another party official not to run they weren't even running against each other but a lot of people

won't want people primaried and you see that a lot like legislatures where basically things will kind of die in committee because they don't want the vote counts because if something goes to a vote say the statute of legislature even at the city council or the county commission yeah and then we can campaign on it otherwise can't really unless there's a record unless you can release even if your vote's going to fail but if you get the lines for them so to speak I promise you're using military analogy but you have something to campaign on and you can basically kind of debate things at that point but yeah um yeah with that campaigner back to that there's just a lot of those election kind of shenanigans as well um she can i don't know

appropriate as well but like there was report as well like someone was um back to the 2016 caucus interview we're kind of going into but yeah there's some elections shenanigans for sure going on there i i will say that i never signed off in the vote tiles because i was able to verify them but it's also something to kind of talk about the campaign with but someone signed off on them It wasn't me. I'll put that gym out there. But, yeah, there was a lot of those kind of shenanigans that happen in the primary. Those things, just like negative campaign, they suppressed voter turnout.

I think that's one reason when people drove burning, like, why aren't we talking about this? It's because we still want people to go out there. We've been dealing with this. It's not like it's been ignored. But, yeah, I mean, I know it's as well. There's been kind of various movements. I kind of use an analogy as well Republicans kind of had a bunch of

pro-lifers and they came at the committee person seats which I believe who's elect people in the course of vacancies as well typically they get together and vote I think in this case with the presidential Democratic primary the electors of Biden basically decided

that Camala Harris would be the nominee which I'm confused because a lot of it was like the Rules Committee didn't even know it was going on there it was kind of like a whole panic and of course obviously no one's going to mount a campaign

in what week was it before the official like no one's got like in which case you just go with this what should have happened they should have gone with an open convention yeah the party official pick whoever you want

all right pick whoever you want at that point and the winner the winner gets it that's not what happened at all all right yeah that was just kind of a bad thing and um i was just trying to i was checking my pronouncing as comala harris right yeah um anyways but yeah like she was did the best

had the best response to it as well like knew this process was kind of skewed knew their quote had to be a process of some sort here we need to do something um kind of knew that this was kind of going to be a disaster um there was a bunch of things that were kind of happening around that point as well basically kind of Biden was stumping with Bernie and AOC I saw that on the media when I was looking around things but who knows with a search engine algorithm when that's trying to show me like a lot of things happened in 2016 have kind of this organic dissent and kind of organic thing going on at the party and then the republicans or whoever maybe foreign actors can amplify it to increase dissent you know a typical once again

kind of military now but divide and conquer basically get us fighting each other yeah but yeah like that was one thing

that was going on yeah from there I think it was just kind of yeah yeah a lot of

people were working a lot you just didn't have the energy and they were depending a lot on basically money

and dunders and ads and I never got asked to volunteer I got asked to volunteer by Magente and I believe it was the

AFL-CIO who was the only ones who did it that I know asked me for money. I didn't even boot up my burning email address because I wasn't very active, but I'd imagine as well as probably a lot of substance there from the burning email.

Sure. But anyways, so yeah, yeah, it's kind of, yeah, what do we do, you know? Yeah, I need more energy. We need primaries to need new blood constantly. We do need primaries. We do need primaries and we need progressives to win in those primaries. me in 16 Calcarra and 18 and that's the race I think you were talking I know you were talking about Calcarra

and Brandon Woodard Brandon Woodard by the way needs to not be in Topeka anymore yeah like well he's going around he's giving speeches and he showed up our revolution as well and they were kind of like well he's going to win and like

like they're like the thing with our is like we don't want to endorse one it's not going to win And it's like, grow a pair of, you know, like... And Doris, who... Just like, what's going on? Yeah. And Doris, who comes closer to fulfilling that message that your group is embracing?

Someone who... Yeah. Possibly committed a crime and... Were we not going to stand by someone who's not essentially like a Bernie crap? But yeah. Yeah. Just because they're not going to win.

But they were studying infrastructure. You know, just kind of like Lower County is kind of like a policy won't. They were learning how to do their job in preparation for the case they got elected. They know what they were doing instead of going around wavy. But yeah, I said, back to the crime thing, yeah, that's a bad technique. It's coercion. Yeah. There's a lot of people as well.

We'll discuss inner Bernie primary. Like a lot of that stuff is, it's never in the inner circles, so I shouldn't know anything. But basically, I can hire, like, aggressive, like, telemarketers. practically, you know, kind of aggressive marketing strategies. And, like, people don't like that. And people don't like scripts either. Like, when I was training campuses, it's like, just go out and, like, why do you support this person?

Just, you know, maybe have an opening script, but just get an organic conversation. Yeah, yeah. Be a real person, you know. Like, I mean, I think that's one thing like Ron Paul said about Bernie Sanders as well. It's just like ruling is an authentic person. Yeah, exactly. But he was kind of mad because the 2012 group kind of moved home to the 2016. So they're like, where do you all go?

And 2020 also featured a primary war progressive got transced. And that was, Raymond Smith was the progressive. Who, by the way, lives right behind me. Yeah, we're two, yeah. Yeah, 22nd House District. Yeah. Oh, no, that was the house. I'm thinking of the World War II race.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Lindsay had called me. It was pretty cordial, but like they were. basically on the other fence of the primary it's still like I'm sorry Lindsay you're never getting my vote I will be I'll be riding myself in every time that you're on the ballot

on the post yeah that's an uncontested blue race so I mean the only way you're going to get new leadership there is a democratic primary yeah but no it was a I have a nice conversation with her and everything but it was basically like I was going off the primary campaigns I was on and going off the primary campaign she was on and I think basically every

single one of them were opposite but she's a nice person but yeah like um yeah um yeah it's one of those things um and we definitely need to find someone uh since you bring up uh city council we definitely need to find someone for award one yeah once again it's kind of kind of like a bluer northeast quadrant but it's kind of but again republican light like certain people can yeah um kind of appeal if you don't like that characterization logan well fuck you that's what you are But yeah, well, they just run for the moderate.

It's kind of one of those things, which is just, it's running for the pocketbook. It's like, it's also just not taking a stance. But, yeah, I forgot I was going on that. The various races. Oh, yeah, I remember totally, because after the RF split, which is kind of one of the main sort of, it's actually unaffiliated, it's its own thing, which I can attest for it because they do the real thing. But, um, we only had the one. the candidate

in Dot which was a big kind of scandal because of some things he did in his past that he didn't want to fenced up to yep he didn't want to acknowledge it either there's no you know I tried I think just message him on Facebook tried to set up a meeting

it created a lot of and of course this is all it's all internet so there's the dynamic of the internet you know maybe some glitches but people are so are just it's Facebook you know and stuff like that social media people are angry they're kind of

in each other's throat but that kind of created a really kind of big divide but the r-reb kansas as well unanimously and fairly immediately released a statement denouncing it so that's all i got to say on that um but yeah oddly that was kind of the only candidate kind of get any attention but um yeah there's kind of a lot kind of going on just on that note. But yeah, that 2020 is kind of this other thing. But yeah,

I think like the runoff was kind of a thing that happened in 2020 and then, yeah, also kind of just kind of the energy is just kind of different. But yeah,

I think it's mainly kind of a real backlash against Trump. But when you run a negative campaign and be like, I'm not the other person, all you're going to eventually do and I think there's scholarly articles

to attest to this as well is eventually just suppress voter turnout. Yeah. People are going to stay home. Give them something to run on besides not so-and-so. Yeah, or a future to believe it or something. Yeah, one of the burdens. Give us a, yeah, like Bernie, like Bernie, give us something tangible, something that we can work towards.

And... I like, you know, like writing candidates are a lot of times, or third parties. Yeah. Like, but yeah, that's why they're kind of important, especially in races and art contingents with the Lecture College as well. Yeah. You could even perhaps had some flanks. Usually you'll see that, but I think the Harris campaign just exclusively focused on the swing states, I think one pundit was saying, kind of trying to build a wall over the limit.

There's an opportunity here. You could have actually made a run at Kansas, apparently. Like, you know, when you're in three, four, five points, you can throw a few chips that way and at least, you know, mix things up, but they did not have a 50-state strategy, really. I think something that's saying they did. To Howard Dean for coming up with the 50-state strategy, because that helps get Obama elected, no question about it it doesn't it mixes them up like when you're thinking about how opposition is going to relate to things it's another thing too with early voting there's exit polls or there's data that people have

and so when you do that campaign not to get a campaign strategy too much but people know your moods at that point there's so much early voting that people do exactly kind of what was going to happen from that and a lot of that was on the harris side so they're able to kind of triangulate past that yeah they need to do and where as far as you know where's math sure sure and on the electoral college are you are you of like me of the opinion that's it's it's probably timing I think a lot of people will point to Nebraska I think me might also have it as well where maybe that would give us a little bit which Kansas deserves right we yeah yeah at least give us one blue folks here in Kansas yeah that would make more sense but yeah there's I

mean it's kind of like a state thing I'm trying to think yeah it's back to the the founders' intentions there and like I also it's like like any law as well kind of look back and see why it was written so um to try to see what they're thinking there but yeah like Kansas is kind of different you know like we have kind of 50 different states or kind of little country so to speak yeah so I think it's trying to like trying to give them a voice you know it's kind of maybe a diversity thing as well um but yeah um I think congressional acoustics could probably serve that even more I think the original first amendment as well had given us a U.S. house larger than India.

But it was a fixed, not an apportioned thing, so they freely envisioned population. They just artificially get to have 435. How many people even thinking about their great-great-grandchildren? Like, you know, there's a lot of doomsday scenarios as well. Despite wealth inequality as well, I think there's just a lot of, you know, is the world going to kind of end stuff, like the rate and things are going, you know. The plans to get colonized the moon, and it's like, okay.

I was hoping to avoid the religious right angle. of this, but that's exactly why they would get behind a donnie and not do anything. Yeah, like clean up the environment or address genocide. I think they one many times.

Well, in terms too, like we're kind of approaching that. I think it's as I said, it's one of those things as well. It kind of makes my stomach turn a little bit, so I'm trying to appreciate my own boundaries, what kind of addressing things. Yeah, it's bad.

over there be other things as well I think I was mentioning kind of get off the rock thing Milan Musk that was kind of another thing in exactly how much

billionaires are influencing election you basically have two billioners kind of teaming up and what kind of in-kind contributions there might be out there there's the one where it's kind of

it's getting the law but just basically a million dollars if you're a registered Republican like you can't buy votes literally you should yeah you're not supposed to Yeah, that's, you know, supposed to do that. Someone sued over, and it's like, why would the government not step in and challenge that law?

But, yeah, it's technically after voter registration, it's kind of a reward if you're a Republican or whatnot. But, yeah, it's weird. But, yeah, like, their whole plan as well as to, as far as future thinking, I think was where I was at on this. You know, that's my grandfather said as well, like, think long-term planning as well. Yeah. He did a lot of municipal stuff. That was kind of his thing, think into the future. future. Basically, in the Oakland Park ended up being almost as big, her second largest to

KCMO. But no one's, no one's thinking, you know, but I think Bernie's thinking about his grandchildren as well. I think he has a future thing. And it's the really most important thing is to have a habit of the planet. Yeah, exactly. We're not going to be colonizing space. This isn't a side-line movie. We're not going to be colonized in space any time. You do. It's not, not at the real. Probably just a couple of apples here there, but, yeah, we need to clean up this planet. was that's a big issue in mind I'm not a father but I am an uncle

but money in politics as well like financial is just the ones you know the drill baby drill attitude and stuff like that I saw Biden signing an order is that Apache Stronghold has a campaign on Oak Flats as well it's a big copper mine they're just letting some

I think it's a UK Australian company come in and just bulldoze a sacred site it's yeah yeah ridiculous there's just a lot of that going on and it's just kind of destroying our home and there's no long-term plan we just think we have unlimited resources

there's a sustainability kind of movement going on and how we can kind of keep things going but yeah I mean things like we do need green transportation and you know kind of a local thing but yeah I think some of the people behind some of those like the

carbon capturing machines which are a joke but yeah like there's a lot of it's a lobbyist once out of Kansas as well it's red meat on the table. So when you're trying to allocate funds to address something, a lot of people come up with ideas. You've got to kind of dig into the details or the devils in the details things with that. But yeah, there's a lot of, you know, like the building incentives as well. It's like a million dollars on what, like a half a billion dollar freaking deal. It's, yeah, a lot of

it's kind of not authentic and serious. And yeah, they're just kind of, like I think there was Republicans used to point this out as well a while ago, but, like, it was think during the Gore era. Yeah, I think it was around there. I think it was that war. But anyways, they're mentioning, like, a lot of the green stuff.

There's just someone trying to sell you something, and it's not actually authentic, you know. I can buy a product at the store, but unless I actually go there and inspect the factory, the whole supply line and see if this is or isn't, you know, I'll never know. That's one thing with local as well. Like, a lot of it's just

as far as emissions and stuff is, you know, the bi-local thing, things don't have to move far, you know. But, yeah, I mean, that's ultimately kind of behind everything. But the polling as well is money and politics. And there's no one who doesn't disagree with us other than the people who are ever-increasing small percentage of people are basically just trying to kind of control things. But yeah, it polls at like 95%. It was, I kind of called it our general lit, but it's wealth inequality and it's separation of classes and basically just

it's not just even them having a lot of money it's kind of an old top to quote Putin because I know we're not but he's just like he's basically saying they would have been fine if they just stayed on their yachts

you know and basically they're not only wanting incredible wealth and luxury but they're wanting to control people they're wanting control and power beyond method you're getting into that

you're not kind of staying on your yacht so to speak and enjoying your cocktails you're getting into politics kind of controlling things and they're really kind of seeing the billionaires and that kind of upper class but it's also like what do you get for someone who has everything what are they going to do you know when you have something just based on growth and it's like they've accumulated unimaginable wealth they can just buy a company like twitter if they wanted to yeah and it's like what else do you do and that's exactly what happened you get a god complex

going and then you want to kind of control people as well i mean get into all that and um yeah but yeah I mean, post-election as well. Like, I really am kind of worried about women and kind of seeing a lot of that anger as well. And as I said, a lot of that's the campaign strategy when you're like trolling people's emotions and talk about something as personal abortion, like on a stage.

No wonder people are going to get incredibly agitated. And then, you know, meanwhile, I see like a lot of people, I've seen several times, like people just basically with troopers or mosque people or whatnot. And they're, but then they're like, kind of like, I don't know, get with these people or what? It's weird

kind of stuff going on. I remember someone talking about delete your mental timing apps and it's like I didn't even know those are in the way that's weird stuff going on. We don't have to worry about that sort of thing but yeah. No but there's a lot of concern I think as well

especially if you're like it's like the abortion amendments as well there's no rape incest life of the mother there's no exceptions that literally something you could go do is to go rape someone and and they're going to force you to have that kid.

It's a very conquering, domineering kind of atmosphere going on. Right. You know, you kind of like act chill about it, but it's crazy out there. Anyways, yeah. But yeah, I just noticed some other kind of weird things going on with that. Yeah, too. Like, I think one of the delegates here as well, you know, and it's, I mean, we do need, you know, women in politics.

And I think when we do candidate recruitment, I mean, making sure we're diverse is a thing. but when you just solely campaign on that it was all along you can't it's okay to campaign if you're a woman but you can't campaign on vote for me because I am a woman

you can't do that Hillary did that Harris did that what did I get them back on it a little bit I think but yeah it's I'm using the term of my doing the politics people strayed from that but it's I call it like putting people on a pedestal

or use the Malcolm X squad and like the appointed black savior, so to speak. They saw a lot of that as well going on. And I'm like, this isn't anything of substance. Let's dig into policy. Let's see what we can do. Some things I saw in the Black Lives Matter. I didn't get to listen to every single speech,

but they're out and about the Internet as well, and then conversations are a lot of actual substantive policy to kind of address things compared to putting someone on pedestal, basically. And I think the big thing there is they don't care. They're using you, basically. This isn't authentic, you know, because one of the delegates I was trying to talk about, this is an LGBT issues as well, but, you know, I remember where they weren't there, you know. They're warm weather friends, so to speak.

So it's like, you know, it's only when the polling kind of showed that this was advantageous if possible that they come over, you know. As I said, kind of like making a stand and being on the right side of history, you know, with like Bernie in the 70s, you know. I think Bernie in Vermont might have actually been in the first city to throw a gay bright parade. Yeah. Back again, too, like, that's sex we're talking about, too. So it's like, it's kind of a private thing, you know, or in those communities. Like, putting something like that on a pedestal is going to rouse people's emotions.

And it's something that usually doesn't work in Democrats' favor as well. Like, probably we're usually going to prey on that, you know. It's also kind of like Trump was a strodinger candidate, especially with the Internet and targeted advertising, you know, anti-LGB or whatnot, or let's pick on trans folks. Meanwhile, you know, there's queer Trump, and he's actually, actually, as an LGBT candidate at the convention in 2016, and they were simultaneously doing things that are contradictory, but with the nature of the Internet and targeted campaigning and advertising,

which there's a ton of. Yeah. You can do that, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Of course, the one demographic, I have to scratch my head on that, for Donnie is the Latino vote. I mean, he explicitly told these people,

I will deport you. and they vote for mainly. Yeah, well, yeah, the mass deportations is a frightening authoritarian thing, which I guess we see might witness. But, yeah, not all frontinos are illegal, all blacks commit crows and stuff like that. But, yeah, that's kind of a thing that's been kind of swaying around in that vote as well. I don't really do demographic politics.

That's one thing that's kind of irritating me since I got into politics. I kind of look at the knife in the back, use another Malcolm X quote. So I'm actually, I kind of look at hate. But yeah, usually someone will know someone in those communities as well and what's going on with that. There's also kind of like I walked uphill both ways to school, so you have to too. And so I did the paperwork.

There's a wide range of things as far as immigration. I consider jaywalking. I'm the radical open border extremism. Democrats aren't. But yeah, there's a lot of going there too as far as criminals as well. they're also going to use, I think it came out in the debates as well, but yeah, they're going to use military intelligence for these things. But yeah, like, they don't.

They don't. They're into the military, you know. Another public opinion's thing, like, as well. Like, they're in certain spies. But it's things of that nature. But yeah, there's a lot going on there. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, you could do some polling.

The best case is just go ask someone. I don't know if it was really any surprise to anyone as well. A lot of people were pundits, I guess. should say it's a lot different when you get to doors we'll mention like Cuba and Florida and stuff like that but yeah I think it's just people are people there might not even be a thing there but yeah I don't know it'd be interesting to look further into I guess it's immediately dropped me my head on that one well and I think we yeah the debordations yeah I think we touched on it's earlier

than their rationale is well everything's more expensive now Yeah. But again, there's a side effect of the pandemic. It's affected inflation worldwide. So it's not just a U.S. thing. It's a worldwide thing. 15, 17 an hour minimum wage as well, which is also another thing that kind of transcends parties. It's a data point. Republicans are gathering as well as far as Republicans are interested in that. But, yeah, I mean, we got Bernie and campaign a lot of, kind of coalition, you know what I'm looking for, but in general there, kind of got a lot of 15-70-hour, you know, raised wages. And then it's not an organic thing that happens, which we saw at local levels, with increased spending power, but basically corporations, then created inflation. Like, it's mainly fast food as well, but I saw the whole inflation thing kind of unfold. like pay attention to prices, you know, and poor.

But there's these major corporations that kind of artificially raised prices begin with. And then you see, I think it would be called residual inflation or secondary. And a lot of the other things kind of went about. And then they started talking about inflation. But they like a lot of it, like especially as some fast food as well. And, of course, the pandemic as well, which is just another thing that happens when you basically print money. But that's what we needed to do. We needed to chill out, beat this virus.

And so you use debt. That's what happens when we ever have a catastrophe as well. We should be dipping in our savings, really, right? That would be nice. But if not, you take out a loan to get through a tough time. If you can get along. If you can get on. If you have a hard time, yeah.

Yeah, and you need capital as well. Like a lot of these green things about not having a car or a house or we'll put you in a $10,000 house that I'm sure you're not going to own either. It doesn't matter if you did. It's not even like trying to sell a suit. Like, it's probably not worth anything. But, yeah, yeah, and so, yeah, I mean, it's just something that kind of happened. And it's just, you know, use Warren's quote as well.

She kind of was able to kind of get in the middle of some of this stuff as well. Too big to fill, you know. The bank's too big to fill. But also they're just, they're too big. You know what I mean? Enforcing anti-trust law. It's another thing as well. I've been able to talk to a staunch conservative as well, numerous times about that.

It was able to get an agreement there, you know, like, Why aren't we doing that? You know, like, I think Microsoft was kind of one of the big ones on that as well, or looking at Google as well. I theorized that I have to get a Google phone to de-Gougalify something because remnants of antitrust law. Right. But, yeah, I really think they did it with AT&T as well.

Like in the 90s, you go in there and you break stuff apart. But, yeah, stuff's just getting bigger. It's consolidation after consolidation, merger after merger, deregulation, you know, even here locally as well, you know, if I found, you know, some embezzlement by a group with ties to Egypt or something around here and presumed it to the DA, it's not going to charge, you know. But, yeah, it's just that way everywhere. They're not going after them.

A lot of times they've got an army of lawyers, they're too big, or, you know, own politicians or, you know, various means, you know, especially with mass data collection and data brokers or whatnot and everything. It's just, you know, in a certain point, you know, got to do something, you know. Things will happen organically as well. Usually, you don't get ahead of things. Those are always the more doomsday, not the good ways, I should say. But yeah, it's bad.

But yeah, I don't know what to do. I think like the opening statement as well as you had on, Bernie, the one that I reflect on as well. I kind of forgot the wordage once again, car accidents. But I do remember he's kind of like calling out. the anyone kind of thing. Reminds me a brand new Congress as well. Kind of a nonpartisan. They're really kind of,

because there has been a lot of blood and little shifting as well. Mainly people sitting on the couch. Which I think also Bernie called as well during all this. Because they were trying to say, well, what would happen to people? When people go third party,

they're going to switch that and he's like, I'll do what they're going to do. We're going to sit on the couch. Once again, knows what's up there. 16, 17 million people compared to last time post-population graph, number of registered voters

a lot of people just set home and that of course will affect down ballot as well there's a statistical anomaly as well in that where Trump did better across the board it's usually something you don't see it would be worth looking into as well I don't know what's up with that it's kind of weird

just like every single usually people in politics will do demographics a lot of these are race, gender, college education hardly ever even poll anything like you know a political issue but yeah did it cross

demographics. It's kind of weird. But yeah, Latino men. There's another, I don't know. It would be interesting to look into. I kind of saw that coming for a while, I guess you'd say. There's another thing that's been, I saw coming on as far as demographic collection, which I'm probably just going to refuse at this point.

It's there to try to help disadvantaged communities, you know, which was kind of Bernie's original mayor thing. That's what that's there for is to try to make sure nothing's going on there. if it doesn't have anything to do with that which at this point I don't think anything to be done about that but yeah back to that

there was a separation but yeah like there's the whole Latinx thing Democrats came up with it me it's what language you're speaking so I can talk to you really right so like Spanish speaking or what language campus or phone maker

but yeah there's also white is another thing that showed up a lot Hispanic white or Hispanic non-white I don't know if that data point is explored in that as well, especially when we're talking about a small segment. I think it's grown bigger under Trump. I'm kind of referring to there. But yeah, it'd be interesting to look into those numbers.

I haven't seen anything as far as on that, as far as where white Hispanics voted and non-white Hispanics voted. It'd be interesting to try to pull that up. Could Google it. We're also in a library. Great place to go look at stuff. There's these ancient artifacts here. Open from left and the rights.

Yeah, they're very easy on the eyes if you want to take in lots of information instead of a meme. Yeah. So shout out to the local libraries. Yeah, but you can go there and tell them, I want this book, and they'll go get it for you. Or if you're not looking at the books, you can look at yourself. Or talk to your county commission to be like, what do you tell them who get me in this book? What a reason? There's an anonymous check out.

I mean, if you're in the library, you know, if you're paranoid and like I am, like, you know. Right. And I guess it's a good, I'll go on and close with this. I'm sorry, people, I'm sorry, Spanish is a very widely spoken language in this country. I took it at West. Cherokee, I want to learn that one as well. I think I can pick that one up a little well. It's kind of weird. Yeah, a little bit older. But yeah, like we say a child has all the phononics as well, but I have some Cherokee phononics as well. I was going to play with that one. But yeah, Native American language preservation. But Spanish is the biggest one. Spanish, yeah. You go into any fast food place nowadays.

Yeah, they do good job speaking English, but it's not a bad idea to learn a little Spanish. Yeah, and a lot of them, too. Like, I've been trying to learn my Spanish, but a lot of people are like, oh, I know English. And it's like, so you didn't know. I was just trying to learn Spanish. And so it's like, I don't know who's been like approaching them

being like, oh, you have to learn English. Well, I was saying this. Yeah, the big thing on that as well is, like, I remember in the protests a bunch of South American flags and Spanish people protesting with us. And over time, I think they have gone somewhere. And so I think that's kind of a thing going on as far as the Constitution as well. When you prohibit immigration to these lands for political reason, that is why we tactically declared war against England. Right. Britain at the time, 1700, something like...

But anyways... Also a good portion of our country we won from Mexico, you know. There's an economic national security, but I think it's not only racial, which obviously is, but also political. And I think that's a lot of things, what's going on there, and going after political enemies as well, which is something we should probably reflect on as well, and be consistent about. Once again, kind of like Republican light, but are we just not as bad as them? Right. Like, it's kind of a general theme.

And so to just, you know, let's be something completely different, you know. But yeah, or opposite of that, even, it would be nice. Like, let's not go after our political enemies. In that case, I think, not really, Trump, go after all the oligarchs and billionaires and whatnot. Like, they're all, this is rampant, you know. Why do we have this one case kind of popping up on this, you know? But yeah, which will probably see more of as well. So you step into politics.

It's like, what was there just saying, like, if you forgot what you did in your 20s, like, go ahead and run for office and someone would figure it out for you. But yeah, like, you'll get attacked. It's also just kind of a thing. If you have any skeletons in the closet. But, yeah, get ahead of them, right.

I'm in zero-fax left territory politically soon. That's totally all right. All right, well, we're going to have to wrap that because we've gone long today. I'm going to go move around myself. All right. Well, thanks everyone for listening, and we'll talk to you next time.

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