This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Discussion on Political Violence with Terrence Hayes

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

Friend of the Podcast and co-host Terrence Hayes returns to discuss political violence in the wake of the Charlie Kirk situation. Remember, political violence is never the answer. Check out Terrence's work at the Petty Murphy Project.

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Mind's awake never lives Conversations bold and free Tune in now just wait and see this part In the day Just press play we're on our way voice to sharp opinions bright talking through one welcome the end to the podcast we are experiencing some technical issues here but let's see if this works any better hopefully terence will be joining me in a little bit in the meantime just want to get everyone

squared away on just saying no hey political violence is not a cool thing. And let's try this again. All right. Let's try this. I can't hear me okay? I can. Yes, I can.

All right. I can hear you too. So let's take it from the beginning. All right. All right. So with political violence, nobody deserves to die. I was not a fan of Charlie Kirk. I would be 100%.

I was not a fan of him. but the man did not deserve to die and I think what people don't seem to understand on the left and the right and with the everyone getting mad that nobody was mourning this man and on our side that we're on is that

okay he died okay we acknowledge that but we don't need to basically blame one another's because where was the empathy when Melissa Horman and her family were gunned down in Minnesota? Exactly. Where was the same energy with that? There was silence. And the things that he said about black women, DEI, George Floyd, they were disgusting.

But he did not deserve to die. So we'll agree to, we need to learn how to agree to. disagree. But the political violence has been going on in this country, has been going on for years. And, you know, the biggest problem is it with the gangs in L.A. or Portland or Chicago, Baltimore,

wherever the United States, where you need the troops and the military, no. It's not even going after undocumented immigrants that you think there are criminals and having ice chase them around. No. It's homegrown terrorism. Exactly. And what people don't understand is that they need to go back to read their history.

Homegrown terrorism has been a thing for many, many years. It only came to reality April 19th of 1993 with the Waco tragedy with the Branch Divideons and the FBI in the shootout. And then two years later, Oklahoma City, local semi-bombing. That was under response to what happened down in Waco. Right. And we've had, we've had the Olympic bombing. We've had the Unabomber. We had Eric Rudolph. We have had a lot of things in this country and homegrown terrorism is about as important as international terrorism. The problem of this is that we have secured our borders so much in this country that we forgot that we have these type of people that have been radicalized. that have been, you know, dealing with PTSD from the wars and everything else too. That feels like the government has screwed them over. We have a lot of people that are mentally unstable in this country.

And we're not paying attention to it. So we're focusing on the wrong issue here. And the main issue to that is free speech is because we should feel how we want to feel. And censor and Jimmy Kimmel was the wrong thing that they could do. because the power of the people and, you know, comedians from all over and people all over in support of Jimmy and basically coming down and throwing their dumbs down at the FCC, it should show you America is how much power you have. I just feel like pretty much if, you know, people really want to look at it, it's this administration has caused all these problems the last eight years. is this administration and the popularity of this MAGA movement that has caused all of this and it's affecting everyone,

including those in MAGA. That's why it's not making America great again. It's making America stupid again. Yeah, I 100% agree. Yeah, this was brought up, let's talk about Charlie Kirk for sex. So one of my libertarian friends just this week posted, there's a lot of violence and hatred going on right now

because the left are demonizing an honorable man on the rights. You said yourself, Charlie Kirk, I may disagree with him, but to call him honorable, I don't think so. No, no, you can't. You can't. and people said that he was the white Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King didn't spread hate. That's right.

He spread more violence. He spread nonviolence. They're way different. They're way different. I mean, did they both get assassinated? Yes, but I really wouldn't want to say Charlie Kirk or Martin Luther King were both assassinated. That's just a political term for it. They were murder.

Yep. Okay, that's like Biggie and Tupac. They were murdered. So I wouldn't even say an assassination, but to say that he, I mean, he may have been a great man to his family and his friends and everything else too. But to everybody else that could see it on the naked eye, not so much. Right. And, you know, people have to understand us that we, we may, though, think the same, but we may not, no, understand the same. and we don't have to like the same thing.

So if you like Charlie Kirk, cool. All right, cool. Doesn't mean they'll have to like them. I mean, I can respect an opinion, but I won't take disrespect. And I think that's where people are not understanding is that the words that he said, and this is from the left and the right, the words that he said were very disrespectful at the end of the day. so we can agree that his death was messed no his death should never happen but let's disagree on how the man was we can disagree on that and move on yeah yeah yeah so yeah he said some really despicable things i don't care of here um don't matter your race or gender or how you identify as sexually he he was very much in the wrong, you know, the exact opposite, as you said, of Martin Luther King.

So, Martin Luther King preached tolerance, nonviolence, and bringing people together. Kirk was all about preaching division, and I'm sorry people don't quite understand that. and the way forward for this country is to be as inclusive as humanly possible. It's not to exclude entire portions of the country and their silence. It's not to misinterpret the Bible, and that I do believe that's a huge part of it, that's the right. In particular, evangelical white Christians have a tendency to misinterpret the Bible, misinterpret everything that Jesus taught and twisted to what fits them.

So that is my opinion on evangelicalism. Take it. Take it or leave it. Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. You know, like I said, you know, I don't have to agree to disagree to your opinion. I don't have to do that. But we have to have a common ground.

And what a lot of people are not understanding is how much everything affects them. Like, I'm going to tell people right now, people without the conspiracy theories saying, oh, it's the Democrats that introduced COVID and all of this. no it was not that would have been trump the president who sat on his ass for six weeks before the government was shut down and he knew all about it knew all about COVID did I want to put the implements in now all of a sudden we're in a government shutdown wow that just rings a bell this man has more government shutdowns than Bush Obama and Biden combined right

This, and he's had the most in American history. And we're in another government shut down now. And now everyone, now he's saying, though, with the tariff money, he's going to give out one to $2,000 stimulus checks. Okay. How the hell can you do that when the government is shut down, that we were broke? Yep. All of this pretty much to me is just a distraction for the non-released Epstein

That's all it is. People wake up. It's a distraction. It's a distraction from what we're about to see the next reality TV show because this generation is about to see their OJ Simpson trial. Mm-hmm. When the when them files come out and no victims said they will tell it all. It's a distraction. All of this is a distraction. a distraction. Okay, it's a distraction. We were getting so close to them files coming out.

And it just so happened that I performed the night before the whole Charlie Kirk situation. And I spoke to the people. And I'm going to play that. I'm going to upload that set on the Petty Murphy Project, which you guys can hear on all streaming platforms. I'm going to upload it. and I spoke I spoke my trip like I'm speaking to it

and it just so happened and it just so happened that the day after that Charlie Kirk gets assassinated or murdered we're not going to say it's assassinated murdered

and it brought back to reflection and now you see everything is dying down everything is dying down but we're still going to my Epstein files and we're going to get the Mepstein files. But I just want people to understand

is that political violence is not okay. You can have your beliefs. You can share your beliefs. That's your American right. But to take somebody's life or to get in a fight or disagreement or disrespect them by their color, their origin over on social media,

no, there's no room for that. Right now this country needs to, It's about as much of unity as though now, than ever. We haven't been united since September 11th. Think about it. Charlie Kirk was murdered on September 10th. Nearly 3,000 souls died on September 11, 2001. 2001, yeah.

Think about that. We're sitting here arguing over a death. of a man instead of getting ready to mourn nearly 3,000 people that lost innocent people that lost their lives over hate over hate

and we were attacked unified as one. That's the last time this country has been unified and I'm going to say this before I go I ain't blaming just the left I ain't blaming just the right they're all at fault

but when we look at it all you can't be no you got to think about it it's not about being a Republican it's not being about being the Democrat or an independent it's about being an American at the end of the day and no matter who is in charge

we as American taxpaying Americans still get screwed in the end so we can be cordial about it no ditty no baby oil let's stop the bullshit, okay? Let's stop the little shit, yo. For real, for real.

But I do thank you for letting me come on here and speak my piece today. You're always welcome on my podcast soon. Absolutely. I'll make sure you guys check out this exclusive audio from September the 9th of 2000, in 2025 of this year. And then you think about what I said and think about Charlie Kirk. Just getting a drop on the Petty Murphy Project is 7 o'clock p.m. Tim. Central Standard time on all platforms. I'll see you later.

All right. Thank you, Terrence. Thank you. Yeah. Talk to them. And there we go. So check out Tances' work at the Petty Murphy Projects. And we will talk again very soon. This podcast is Uncalled for. is hosted, produced and edited by

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