This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Episode 200 (with Chris Hurt, Amy Bell, and Amanda Feriante)

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

We've made it to 200 episodes!!! Thank you to everyone who appeared on the podcast and supported us over the years!! Program breakdown: AI Generated Review of the Podcast (demonstrating why we won't be using AI to produce content for the podcast) Mike's 2026 tournament picks (they're garbage - and we got a surprise visit from Chris Hurt) Our special "bagel session" with Chris Hurt Review of the movie "Network" with Amy Bell (now a member of the Three Timers Club) and Amanda Feriante (this review will also be used for their podcast These Are Bad Movies) Top 5 clips from the entire podcast

Warning, this episode contains strong language or mature themes. Parental discretion is advised. the first thing we're going to do is demonstrate why you don't have to worry about artificial intelligence with this podcast yes we do use

AI for music but that is pretty much the extent of it I'm not going to turn this over to AI DJs and I'm going to demonstrate why so this is a sample from

Google's notebook. See if we write a review of the podcast and put it in podcast form and this is

what the AI came up with. You'll hear it and then you'll hear my input on it. Welcome to the deep dive. We don't just read the sources

we try to unpack the story they're telling. And today, we're really peeling back the layers on a pretty fascinating case study. Yeah, a long-running, a fiercely independent podcast. We're looking at how one host managed to build this really loyal following, basically by, you know, refusing to stick to any

single format. We've got a ton of material to go through fan discussions, industry reviews, even some really detailed local advocacy papers. And it all centers on one show. This podcast is uncalled for. It's hosted and produced by a guy named Mike Cherniewski. That's Chenevsky. Right, Shenevsky and his whole mission for the show is kind of perfectly summed up in his motto he says it's about whatever the fuck he wants to talk about and that's really the core thing we're digging into here this show it started way back in 2019. It's got 263 episodes and it just recently hit 25,000 unique downloads for a truly independent like one person show that's huge it's massive so our mission for you listening is to sort of figure out the blueprint here how does an approach that's so unfiltered I mean mixed mixing deep personal stories with niche hobbies and some really sharp local politics. How does that actually work for what seven years? Okay, so let's unpack that. I think we have to start with the foundation, right?

The authentic voice of this kind of podcaster. Industry reviews, they pretty much all praise his hosting style. They use words like unfiltered and relatable. And that it leads to these genuine heartfelt discussions. Exactly. He has this level of transparency with his audience that, you just, you rarely see. It's almost like they're just listening in on his,

his ongoing life diary. It's more than just transparency, though. I think it's a strategy. Yeah. It's a strategy of vulnerability. Yeah. He uses his own personal life as the actual content. And he's really committed to the integrity of that narrative.

I mean, I'm thinking of that whole incident back in 2024. Oh, the Casey French Festival thing. Yeah. An improv group did a parody of his show, and he felt like he had to do a whole episode just to, you know, correct what they said. Right, but it wasn't that he was mad about the parody itself. It was more this, like,

like firm insistence on his own truth. He wanted the record to be straight. Exactly. He clarified the pronunciation of his Polish name, but more importantly, he debunked two key details from their sketch, that he's never been married and has no children. Which might seem like a small thing to correct. It does, but it shows this complete refusal to let the public story about him drift away from his actual reality.

And that commitment is so essential because the stories he shares, are, I mean, they're intensely personal. The sources point to his really candid talks about what he calls perpetual singleness. And then there's the even heavier stuff, his whole journey of losing his faith in Mormonists. Which he ties directly back to the events of 9-11, the trauma and I guess the disillusionment from that. Yeah, and that kind of content, you know, giving a detailed accounting of a major shift in your identity and your faith, that is the currency of trust in this kind of media. He's basically giving you the blueprint to his own moral and emotional.

architectural architecture. And if you believe him on that, you'll believe him on everything else. It definitely sets a high bar for the people he has on the show, too. He isn't out there chasing, you know, A-list names or trying to go viral. Not at all. His guest list is pretty much his inner circle. He wants people who offer authenticity and shared history. Like his interviews with Lucas Stone King and Daniel Raines? Right. Who weren't famous. They were his co-workers from when he drove a forklift at Solpotted Designs. And by having them on, he's kind of validating those He's reinforcing that his life, and by extension, the show, is grounded in something real in a shared past. It makes the conversation feel less like an interview.

It's more like you're just eavesdropping on old friends catching up. So, okay, this brings us to the actual result of this whatever the host wants philosophy. You get this just astonishingly eclectic tapestry of content. It's almost chaotic, the diversity of topics. But it's always tied together by his very specific passions. The guy's a licensed chess tournament director. So, of course, you're going to get deep dives into niche board games. Yeah.

He hosted a full playthrough of a game called That's a Rap. With a designer, Adam Sadiq. That's one. And then you switch gears completely, and suddenly he's doing this deep analysis of alternative sports leagues. The pre-merger XFL and USFL. And he doesn't just mention them. He has this, like, encyclopedic knowledge of specific teams.

He names them, yeah. The St. Louis Battlehawks. The Houston gamblers. The Michigan Tantors. Right. And what's really compelling is how that sports obsession connects right back to his local advocacy. Mm.

He pairs this love for these underdog leagues with this recurring, really critical commentary on the NFL leaving St. Louis. He calls out the owner, Stan Cranky, by name. So he uses sports as a lens to talk about bigger things, like civic loyalty and corporate betrayal. Exactly. It's never just the hobby for its own sake.

There's always politics or history underneath it. And we should probably mention this isn't his first rodeo, this style, this blend, it goes way back for him. It really does. The sources show he got his start in podcasting way back in 2012. He was the producer and editor for a show called Sunflower Brew. And that show was already doing this mix, right? The perfect blend. It was Kansas politics and craft beer culture at the same time. That's such a fascinating combination. But it proves he's always seen these things, hobbies, and deeply held beliefs as just, you know, part of the

same hole. And that's why it works. If you trust his take on a weird regional political race, you're probably going to trust his enthusiasm for a niche microbreu. It's consistent. And that consistency really shows up when you look at the numbers. Yeah, let's talk about the fan favorites. We've got the official top 10 list from 2021. And what's so telling is that his audience, when they're given all this choice, they overwhelmingly pick the pure narrative, the vulnerability. The top three episodes, if you exclude bonus material, are Stories Untold One, Stories Untold 2 and Ghost Stories. So if the chess and the football were the bait, the deeply personal story was the hook.

It's the payoff for all that authenticity. The audience gets so invested in him as a person that they want to hear the deepest, most mysterious parts of his life. And right after those, you've got episodes like Brime Boy Fringe Show and thoughts on being a Truckee. Which are still about personal reflections, about identity. And then you see that interview with the game designer Adam Sadiq popping up again. It's all about people in their stories. So what this really shows is that the tapestry only works because all the different threads are extensions of his personality. The hobbies add flavor, but the vulnerability, that's the actual substance of the show.

He's basically trained his audience to value his perspective more than any single topic he might choose. And that deep, committed perspective, it leads us right into the final and maybe the most impactful part of his show. His role as a platform for local advocacy. Yeah, a platform focused intensely on Kansas City. If his personal life is open source, his civic life is, it's a call to action. This is where his contrarian, super detail-oriented personality really finds its perfect outlet. I mean, he has been arguing for two decades. 20 years since he was at UMKC.

That the Kansas City Royals need to move out of the suburbs and build a new stadium downtown. And he's not just making some broad philosophical argument for it. He and these local groups he champions like 3D development, they have a very specific. location in mine. The Washington Square Park site. Right. And what's so powerful about their case for this specific spot is how meticulously it's built to counter all the usual objections to big development projects. Like what? Well, for starters, the sources detail how this proposal requires zero business displacements. That's a huge strategic advantage. No one gets kicked out. Almost no one. They only have to demolish one building, 2301 main, which is apparently said to be vacated in 2025 anyway.

So the human and political cost is minimized right from the start. But the real genius, I think, is in the infrastructure part of the argument. They call it the bullseye site for a reason. It's positioned perfectly. You've got, what, nine interstate connections right there? Plus over 20,000 existing parking spots within just a few blocks. So the whole where will everyone park argument is solved before it even starts. And critically, it sits directly on the KC Streetcar line.

Let's pause on that because that's the key to the whole. thing. It's about leveraging what's already there. Absolutely. The KC. Streetcar, for anyone who doesn't know, is this modern free-to-ride transit line that runs through downtown. This stadium plan puts the venue right on that line. So it can deliver

what's the number? Something like 2,500 people per hour, straight to the gate? Right, and that turns a huge game day crowd from a traffic nightmare into a success story for public transit. It validates the city's investment in the street car in the first place. And the synergy just keeps going. The

location connects Union Station, Crown Center, the National WWI Museum. It's not just about baseball. It's about stitching the whole cultural heart of the city together. And then there's the Future South Loop Project. The source has mentioned the I-670 lid. Which is basically a giant park built over the top of a sunken freeway. Exactly. So you take this highway that divides the city, you cap it, and suddenly you have this massive new green space connecting downtown to the Crossroads Arts District. And this stadium would plug right into that new park. It's about long-term urban cohesion, not just a quick buck. You can tell he really understands how all these different assets have to work together.

And this critique goes beyond just the ballpark. He uses Kansas City as a sort of microcosm for what's wrong with national policy. Oh, definitely. He talks about his own car troubles, these small personal frustrations, and connects them to this huge systemic failure of U.S. public transit. He calls it the current suck. He points out the irony in Casey. the buses and the street car are free.

But the service is extremely limited. It's not built for weekends or for rush hour, for the people who actually need it most. So even free transit can fail. And all of this political passion builds to his most provocative, his most uncalled-for idea. The free state of Kansas City. Right, this concept of taking the five to seven county metro area

and just making it its own thing, separate from Kansas and Missouri. It's a radical idea, for sure. but it's the logical end point of his frustration. If state-level politics are always holding the city back, why not just decouple? Give the metro area the autonomy it needs to get things done. It's a bold thought experiment.

And it perfectly captures the show's whole ethos. So to bring this all back for you, the listener, what's the core lesson here? I think it's that success in this kind of independent media just can't be faked. Mike Chernivsky's success isn't just about niche knowledge, though he has plenty of that. with chess and sports.

It's fundamentally built on radical transparency. He weaves this rich tapestry of narratives, the personal, the esoteric, the political, and it all becomes one unified thing. It teaches us that a fierce commitment to local issues when you deliver it with that consistent vulnerability creates a powerful bond with an audience. A bond that they'll choose over slick production

or celebrity guests every time. And this is where the brilliance of that local advocacy really comes into focus, and it's the thought I think we should leave you with. Okay. The Washington Square Park proposal is a masterclass in urban strategy because it's not about starting from scratch. It's about leveraging what's already there. The public infrastructure, the streetcar, union station, the future park over I-670, it uses those existing assets to justify the new development.

It's making the most of the capital that's already been sunk into the city. So think about your own community, your own city. What's the big civic project that could transform the heart of your region, not by building something? something totally new in a vacuum. But by strategically plugging into the public assets you already have, a transit line that's underused maybe, or a historic district that's ready for a new purpose, what's already there, just waiting to be connected.

All right. So that's the AI generated review of the podcast. Some notes. First of all, well, thank you for getting the name right, at least, and kind of sort of the mission of the podcast. which, again, and artfully, I've said whatever the fuck I want to talk about. Over 200, I guess they're including all the clips trailers that we have. They're including the UFO podcast that we have within our feeds,

the unofficial fan lounge, which will be happening when this releases, season three of the league, season two of, that mini podcast and the extra stuff that we have on our feed and ongoing life tottery yeah that that's a good way to

describe the podcast I do have ever have to clarify the fringe proff thing a little bit better yeah those are the sticking points I had

but go back and listen to my 24 fringe review because that wasn't the only thing that was

going on they were making fun of it because they randomly drew they put all the fringe shows that year into a hat so probably

some of the other shows that were if we had their creators on they might have been drawn as well but we were absolutely drawn

correct to Brian Colley for letting me use that audio in the podcast and during the 25 French festival as a volunteer I happen to run into Brian Colley and I told him you know exactly that. I thought it was

funny but maybe your actors should be listening to the podcast more because I've never been married. I still have never been married and don't have kids because you have to get laid to have kids chasing A list names or rather their insistence I'm not well I'm trying to get who I can get you know it's simple as that I don't exactly have access to A list type challenge if I did Paul Red Chis and Stadakis Travis Kelsey would all be on this podcast at some point that said I did read chats

too big slick a little over a year ago I might try to reach out to them again but they never got back to me so there's that Luke and Dan yes when we are at soap designs Luke and Dan drove the forklifts I did not I was just stocking jewelry all around the place. Luke and Dan handed all the heavy driving if you will. And often, especially when we're still in the older warehouse, not so much

in the newer one, they would drive the forklift and take shit down for my benefit. So, yeah. You do correct that one. Am Sadiq and his game, that's a wrap.

Those are two separate. episodes all together. Adam I had on before the game released and it was actually in the middle of his Kickstarter for that game. When I actually

played it, it was with other people. Not Adam. Sports as an allegory for local advocacy. That's a funny way of putting it concerning my sports

advocacy is for St. Louis teams for the most parts and I'm advocating for Kansas City to do what they need to do to improve and that does include a downtown

ballpark for the Royals. Hopefully that will be announced before this episode even comes out. Top-time list clearly that does need updating but consistently in

top, well, certainly the top four are going to be the two stories untold episodes, The Ghost Stories, and Brian's first appearance on the podcast. Yeah, we'll look into correcting that. Civic Life, well, do people actually listen? Well, we do have the numbers to suggest that people listen. And one less thing, I would, I would absolutely

say that I view Kansas City as an allegory for the problems that our country faces overall. You have a certain party, you know which part of the time that runs state government in both Kansas and Missouri that are continually at odds with the Kansas City area, which is. stuck in between both and that's why I'm advocating for this free state of Kansas City as a thought experiment

as I'm certainly within the last few years we're seeing that Jefferson City doesn't give a shit about Kansas City trying to gerrymander the city apart into separate

congressional districts to make it harder for Democrats to get elected and they did the same shit in Topeka gerrymandering the northern half of Kansas City, Kansas Wyandotte County into the second Congregional District which is way more conservative

all in the attempts to get Sheree St. David's voted out of office so I don't so you're saying clear as day neither states respects our metropolitan area and it's just a thought expanding to I think it's going to happen probably not but I'm putting it out there so nothing about it

200 times we've hit the play voices loud like a fireworks display the mic's been hot the story's fun water ride we're not yet done episode 200 for civivities We are going to be doing our bracket pool once again, annual tradition here on the podcast. And as always, we are bracket pool at Yahoo Fantasy Sports. You have until Thursday to sign up. If you're listening to watching the video live, of course. If you're listening to episode 200, then it's long past. But the winner of the bracket pool will receive an invite to the podcast, assuming, of course, it's not me.

But anyway, let's get my picks in. I will start with this eastern bracket. So 116 is Duke and Sienna I would just put Duke all the way through But I can of course I will take this seriously And go pick by pick So 8.9 we have the Ohio

State and TCU Texas Christian University What do the experts say here And And just say I've written this. Just based on win-loss alone, overall record, TCU has a slight edge over the Ohio State,

so I will go TCU, even though if you're a fan of the podcast, and particularly when we do picks, you know, I am not a big fan of the Big 12th. So, yeah. St. John's and Kurt Warner's. alma mater, Northern Iowa. It's 512. We always won't pick at least

1, 12. Let's go with the Panthers, Northern Iowa. And, oh, KU, Cal Baptist. Cal Baptist in the

WAC, which will, unfortunately, no longer be a thing. They'll still, they're still going to be, well, first of all, this particular school,

is moving to the Big West, I believe next year. And the Western Athletic Conference is going to be called the United Athletic Conference with the few schools

that are still going to be there. So, big couple of the story. Of course, I'll go Cal Baptist, so fuck you chicken hawks.

There you. Louisville, South Florida Louisville, I'll go the ACC school there and this one pains me because I like taking Michigan State out of the tournament as early as possible

but at the same time North Dakota States we have to play in basketball and we were just terrible this year, the ruse were some good job of North Dakota states

but for once, I got to go Michigan State here. My one of my former therapists is a North Dakota State grad. Now, hopefully we see the ruse in this situation next year. They just hired a new head coach who has experienced gang teams to the big dance. And far in the big dance, he was coach at Wichita State. that did pretty well. I don't think it was the file four year. It could be wrong.

But yeah. UCLA, UCF, UCLA. And then Yukon and Furman. We'll go Yukon. Um, 932 Dukies and TCU. Dukies. Northern Iowa, Calbatius,

uh, Northern Iowa. Louisville and Michigan State I'll go Louisville Come on You think I was going to give a free pass Michigan State Because they were playing

North Dakota State Fuck no So And then You say Yukon We'll go Huskies

Yukon Duke over North Iowa And then We'll go Yukon not together. Oh, of course. I'm going to pick Duke to get to the Final Four at the very least.

So, yeah. Now let's do the West bracket right next door. So 116, we have Arizona in Long Island University Brooklyn. That's a lot. That's a mouthful. Now,

it's only in recent years of 16 this beat a one. I don't think this is going to be one of those times. I'll go Arizona. Villanova Bia Nova. Utah State.

Let's take a look at the okay, the better win loss record goes to Utah State. So that will be my pick. Utah State. They're soon to be part of the newly revamped

Pack 12. Wisconsin and high points I'll go Badgers Arkansas Hawaii I'll go Arkansas

will stop saying Hawaii in there alright so here's our first of the playing games We have BYU you playing the winner of Texas NC State

It depends on who wins that's playing in game If it's NC State I'm going to go to NC State but we just don't know. So rather than I live in ambiguity, I will pick BYU.

Gonzaga, Knessaw States, that's another reason one. Gonzaga will also be in the Pact 12 next year. But a bunch of states will go to Arkansas states, Washington states, Utah states, San Diego states,

so Gonzaga. 710 Miami Florida versus Missouri Fuck the U Fuck the asshole With a big rubber dick And be in the death with the rest of it Missouri Tigers

And Purdue versus Queens University Purdue On the 32 Arizona Utah state I'll go Arizona Arizona in their history.

Arkansas has got two football schools going and it's... I got the numbers. Overall, okay, I'll go overall record here and raise your backs. BYU, you can't, Gonzaga over BYU,

and then Purdue did pretty well last year, I think, but I'll ride with the tiger. Well, Got around with someone until we make the fucking tournament. And they're the closest thing we have to assist your school. So, Missouri. Arizona, Arkansas, go, Arizona, Missouri, and unfortunately, this is where I have to jump off the Missouri Panor wagon.

Pick the Nzaga. We have Arizona, Gonzaga, in the eight, Zaks. So we have, uh, The Dukies, one seed, and Gonzaga, a three seed. We'll do the South Brecon next. This is Florida, and they'll be playing the winner of, no, that's not my pig, my pig's Florida. But I'm pretty sure this is, yeah, Prairie View A&M versus Lehigh

in the playing game. I'll stick with Florida Clemson and Iowa always picked the ACC school if you can Clemson two exceptions North Carolina and Miami those two goals can go

fuck themselves Van Lee versus McNee states hmm okay I think there's going to be another 512 upset here so we'll pick

make these states in Louisiana not yeah Louisiana not oh we got Chris nice of you to join us today

all right so Chris I'm just going over my tournament picks right now so please bear with me sure yeah all right so

Nebraska and Troy I don't think in Nebraska as a basketball school at all so I go Troy North Carolina VCU, C, you come on North Carolina

is not winning I'll pick VCU there Illinois versus Penn God I'm picking the Illinois there St. Mary's in Texas A&M I will go St. Mary's

there we have U of Houston and Idaho New of Houston Florida Clemson can't write that Clemson wave all that's long

so I'll pick the Florida Gators Try make me states That's an interesting one Let's take a look at that Okay, just based on those hours So for all, I'll have regular alone to go McNeice

VCU and Illinois, well, VCU have been to a file four in recent's memory. I like the upset here. And then Houston, St. Mary's has good as St. Mary's has been. I'll go

you of Houston. Florida, Magnice. gators and then I'll go chalk on that one Florida and Houston

and then I'm only picking Houston because they knocked off KU in the Big 12 so so we got to Duke Houston

Gonzaga in the file four so far now let's do this Midwest bracket the last bracket so UMBC versus Howard and

neither being Michigan so Michigan Georgia St. Louis let's go Billikins Texas Tech Akron I'm going third

512 upset there Alabama and Hofstra don't know enough about Hofstra this year so I'll go Alabama this one I am going to pick the playing game because the playing game is Miami Ohio SMU Miami Ohio coming off at an undefeated season this year

at Virginia and Wright State will go Virginia Kentucky Santa Clara let's go Kentucky and Iowa State's Tassie states I am two chicken To pick a 15 Here so I'll go Oh, I'll stay Michigan, St. Louis I like the upset here

So I'll go St. Louis, go Billicans Alabama and Akron That's I'm going to go Alabama And Unfortunately, this is

where I'm going to see Miami, Ohio fall. So Virginia and then I'll pick Kentucky for that last one. Then I'll go Alabama, Virginia

and between the two, Virginia. So final four is Duke, Houston, Gonzaga, Virginia. So one, one, one, one, two, and two threes. Duke, Gensaga and go and pick the Dukies to win of course and the final score is 60. 55.

And there we go. I'm going to save my brackets and the bracket is good. All right. So I encourage everyone who's watching the video portion of this to go ahead and sign up for the bracket pool. and make your picks now. You have until the first tip off on Thursday to make that to get in there. So anyway, Chris, thanks for joining the discussion there. So, yeah, go and stop share.

And, yeah, I guess we'll be talking for the remainder of the time we have left. So how's going? Oh, all right. How are I think going for you? It's kind of cold out there. It is. It is. It's a very cold out there.

Today I was out there. Earlier, I had a family situation, sibling in the hospital. Had to get her home and everything. So, yeah. Yeah, 200 episodes. I'm really excited about this. And I want to thank you in particular for being one of the first guests. I've had on the podcast and part of the three-timers club now, too.

Yeah. It's been an interesting journey. I will say that. And we've got plenty more to do with this 200th episode. Looking for those bagels on Saturday. So I assume we're going to be there too. Yeah. Awesome.

Awesome. Because, yeah, it's Baker's does and folks. I'm not going to eat all those bagels in one sitting. Yeah. Hopefully we get more people to show up. Let's see. We have a few maybies. Hopefully I can turn those maybes in the yeses.

But we'll see by the end of the week. Yeah. Well, what's you've been up to lately? Not so much. I had a friend with an estate sale, and they've been doing that for the last four weekends, and I've been there for two of them, and I think they almost have everything that they can sell out of their house, out of their house. Good deal.

Good deal. Yeah. Yeah, I've been pretty busy, not just with the podcast, and I've been, The last couple of months, I've been cranked out material just for the next season. So we're going well beyond 200 at this point. Heck, even the current season, we've already gone above 200. So with that whole napot pomo thing I did in November, and getting a couple of episodes done before New Year's.

even so yeah and and so yeah and so yeah that's going to be the remainder of the 10th season and then the 11th season uh yeah that's almost uh already got my minimum uh compliment just just the last couple of months so 11 season that that is unreal yeah is unreal 11 seasons and uh over 200 episodes and um I will give myself credits early on deciding to do a season setup with this podcast because it really does help out with just managing everything. If I tried to do it all at once, I'd be, I would have been burned out a long time ago. So, yeah.

How many years and how many different podcasts? So we're still on podcast number three. which I started back, like I said, you were one of my first guests on this podcast back in 2019. Yeah. So, so in May 2019, we're in 2020, yeah, 2026 now. So this podcast has been going to be going on seven years. Yeah. And, of course, you were there for the fifth year, Amber, for three two.

So appreciate you there. there too. And at that time, we had just talked about the fact that there had been a ballot initiative in Jackson County, Missouri that had not gone the way that the

owners of the football organization in town had wanted. And there's a lot coming up here, sports-wise. I believe the World Cup water, and I know you have a passionate following for the street car. Yeah.

What thoughts do you have along those lines? Okay, so we'll tackle football first because you mentioned that. And by football, I mean soccer. Yeah, it's going to be exciting to see who all shows up. We're hosting three national teams in the KC Metro proper. We've got the English. We got the Dutch and we got the Argentine.

Some people want to say, well, Algeria is training in Lawrence. But I don't consider Lawrence really part of the metro area. They're like metro adjacent. I'm sorry if you got to

drive 40 miles across mostly a rural landscape. You're not part of the metro. And I would say that about St. Joe, too. Now I mention that. Yeah, Lawrence is really kind of its own thing as is St. Joe.

So, yeah, that'll be exciting to see those teams trained here. As for the streetcar, I was at the opening for the Main Street Extension. That was all the fun. That episode will be out by the time this because I did record it and that was a lot of fun

got to be I will say this the newer track it runs a lot faster than the starter line simply because it has its own dedicated lanes whereas on the star line it shares it has to share with

the rest of traffic and And yeah, by the time this episode comes out and the World Cup itself starts, we're hopefully talking about that riverfront extension opening to. The construction is done, and they're doing all the testing right now. So it's just a matter of getting all the testing done, and that will be ready to go. So you could literally write it from the UMKC campus all the way to the Missouri River and back. It's kind of cool. You're a UMKC alum.

Yeah. Yeah. Class of 03. That is a large source of correct view just on that alone. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Hopefully next year we're in that tournament. I was making picks for.

It's never happened in my life. it's never happened. I want it to happen in my life. Yeah. If it does happen, I will be rejoicing. Oh, I. The football I was talking about originally,

that was the cheese real estate. Yeah, I heard about that. Quite a bit of drama from the pending relocation, which is going to, which... It's just across a stay-in-line in this case, so. that true they are leaving

Missouri. All right. That's going to be a blow to the tax base in Missouri. And I get that. However, it sounds like they're moving to Phoenix or L.A. All right. And it sounded like they lied to their way to basically the legends area.

So, so, so it is causing a little contrary because, because they're using the star bonds to have fund it. And, yeah, that means sales taxes and property taxes will likely go up for the, I mean, this, excuse me, municipalities involved. And I think so, so for the stadium, they're talking about sites, right? Yeah, pretty much right next to the legends on the west side of the racetrack. So just down the streets, pretty much from Conrado's place in Edwardsville. So that's that. And then the training facility, that's going to be a little closer to home for us, because they're talking to college and Ridgeview, that empty field there, the farm.

There's a... Which is right next to the... a soccer field complex and some shopping in a hotel. Correct. And there's- Kansas Highway 10 being the northern bound. Yeah. Yeah.

K-10, yeah. So between K-10 and college. And that is still many years away. Yeah. Yeah, still a couple more years to go. So I think the chiefs at least on Arrowhead runs through 2031 anyway it's going to take that long to

build the stadium portion so the train facility that shouldn't take nearly as long to build but still that is the time frame that we're talking about of course

the Royals like I said they still need to be downtown it looks like they will more likely wind up downtown at the Washington Square Park side most likely and that's that's the one that's the one in between the Union Station and Crown Center so the thing is that all of this has a lot of political implications there was even in the development of

the speedway complex there were some disputes about the way that property was acquired and I'm sure there is going to be some discussion about and that even the failure of the proposition to fund or was allegedly to fund the chiefs and the misrepresentation

of where they were possibly going to place a downtown stadium was one of the discussion points that I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's still too there's still way too many people in this area that are like, where are we

going to park if they put a ballpark downtown? So, yeah. Just park on the plaza. It's free. Take the streetcar. That's also free. And he can walk.

You lazy bastards. But in all series, says, if you take all the parking at the sports complex, and now you can fit all that parking in downtown and still have plenty of room. So, so, yeah, so I have, and, and it's not easy parking. Let's be completely honest there.

It's not easy parking at all. It's pretty easy getting in. It's a bitch getting out. As I was reminded, just a couple of years ago. I had free Ruros tickets from going to those town halls

and took another friend of the podcast Pat Lamb to the to the game he helps with the parking so thank you Pat for that and we had a good good time and then we went to a sports bar not too far away

bats we left about the sixth inning and even that was a bitch to get out of so So, but you put that thing downtown, you don't have to jump back in your car right away. You could just get on a street car, go across the streets to a bar or a restaurant and everything. Wait for the traffic to die down before you start and home. I suppose right now, where games over head home.

And that's going to go. And that already causes a lot of traffic problems with that mentality. I wanted to discuss more about the Like I said The previous ballot measure because there's a lot of pushback from people They had kind of ripped They had misrepresented Where the stadium was going to be

Yeah that was like Yeah I'm still I'm still confusing why they made that switch in the first week Because the site would have been Was supposed to be the East Village At Charlotte's in the 12th which is presently and we'll be for a while

if even if this goes through empty field what they at the last second they switched to where the the star printing press was across the highway from

the sprint center and there's a lot of bitching complaining that oh you're pushing a bunch of small businesses First of all, the cross arts district is more than big enough to accommodate a ballpark in addition to all the arts and everything. Secondly, how many of those businesses did have these people actually patron, patron? So specifically the people who are objecting. Right.

How many of those people were frequent to those locations? exactly exactly and I'm not just talking about uh yeah stop by during the first Friday uh just uh casually checking these places out I mean actually giving them giving them money to stay in business and everything so yeah I don't know but that's that that's what shut it down I think and and to their credits, the owners at least said, no, we're not leaving the casing metro.

So, so once again, it's not like Clark Hunt has taken the chiefs and moving to the west coast. I think it's just across town. It's a lot different than either situation in St. Louis. the Cardinals, yeah, they messed, the city messed up with them. The more recent situation with the Rams, that was, crimes were committed there. And the league had to pay St. Louis a bunch of money for that. I hadn't specifically heard of thank you for that update.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a couple of years ago with that one. they finally reached the settlement after the judge said you know the relocation these relocation rules

that the NFL drafted those constituted enforceable contracts under Missouri law so y'all could be in huge trouble because St. Louis

acted in good faith to put it together something that the NFL did not do and specifically the ramps did not really do. So

so yeah as either due that settlement for $79 million some of which went to the lawyers and all of which got the rest of which got divvied up between St. Louis City

St. Louis County and the dome authority and they're still trying to figure out how to spend that money. In the meantime, it's sitting in high interest bank accounts gaining interest. And I do give them credit for taking time to figure out what exactly do with this money and how it's going to benefit San Luis in the future.

So, so yeah, as either do the settlement or go to trial, and clearly they chose to do the settlement. because if they go in the trial, oh boy, the NFL would be in trouble. Oh, yeah. Well, cost alone just for the litigation. Yeah. And, of course, these lawyers on the St. Louis side were working on a contingency, so they won't get, they get paid.

They only get paid if there's judgments. like this settlement. Yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah, NFL can't really watch anymore. Now, the UFL starts very soon. Tell me more about this. I don't know a lot about it.

What's the corporate environment where, who owns it? Okay. What are the teams? What is the nature of it? How is it different from the NFL? Tell me all this. I'm a complete newcomer to this. All right.

So the UFL, United Football League. It came about a couple of years ago as a merger between the XFL and the USFL. And their ownership, it's a complex ownership group that includes Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Danny Garcia, Redbird Capital, Fox, Disney. And they had just had new owner this past year's name's Mike Robbins. Poli and he made his money from vitamin water and body armor energy drinks but he's been really hands-on since becoming an owner

it's a spring football league so their season actually starts the weekend after next so the biggest team attendance-wise is the St. Louis ballahawks. And they play at the very

same dome that the Rams played in their thing. In fact, their new head coach is Ricky Proll, who was a huge part of the Rams getting to two Super Bowls in 2000

2002. So that's going to be and yes, I am a battlehawks fan because because of that. The BALHUgs, they don't fill the dome,

but they don't fill the dome, but they get at least a half of it filled on a regular basis. Easily the best attended its team in the UFL. Still don't want anything, but hopefully that changes this year. There have been two champions already, because they've been two seasons.

All right. The first was won by the Birmingham Stallions, Birmingham, Alabama. They're an old USFL team. And this would be a revival of the USFL the 80s that Fox

undertook before this merger. And Birmingham won the two seasons before the merger and the one the one season after the merger. And they have an interesting fan.

culture with their fans like taking their shirts off. And last year's last year was DC Defenders one that's Washington DC they have an interested in fan culture

too and that their fans during the games they take all their beer cups together and they form a giant beer snake at every game and that's that I think is one of the coolest list a fan fan experiences

in the league and they have a big rivalry with St. Louis. This dates back to when both teams win the XFL. So so yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing that. In fact, we open our season at

St. Louis with DC. So I'm real looking forward to kicking off the season and like that. There are two teams in Texas, the Dallas Rangades.

I want to say Arlington, but they're out of Arlington. Now they're in Dallas. And then Houston, they switch from the XFL name, which was Roughnecks, to the USFL name, Gamblers.

So that'd be fun. And then three new teams this year, Lovo, Kings, Louisville, Kentucky, Columbus Aviators in Columbus, Ohio, and Orlando's storm of Orlando. So yeah, it'll be fine. Eight teams total? Yeah, eight teams total.

Okay. And those three new teams, they replace three teams that either had stadium issues or, in one case, just to have the tenants going. So three teams they've replaced, once the Michigan Panthers, who were pretty good, but they had stadium issues in Detroit. They could return if a soccer-specific stadium opens

in Detroit the next couple of years. So they could return. San Antonio Brahma's, they're another team that went by-bye, simply because they're playing in a venue that is too big. And I don't think there's any plans for a similar size to soccer,

stadium in San Antonio. And then Memphis Showbuts is the last one and that's because they only have they average less than 4,000 a game last year. You're not going, that's terrible. That's

a, yeah. So, but yeah, I'm excited about the UFL and I was excited about how this season goes and everything. And we do have, I do have a supplemental, uh, podcast program within the feed. It's called an unofficial fan lounge.

See what I did there, UFL. Oh, no, I didn't see it. Yeah. It went right by me. I'm going to admit. So, so it's a, so it's something that I'm going to be doing during the, uh, uh, once a week, update people. Yeah.

Here's how last week's games went. Here's who I'm picking for this week. And go on from there. If there's any interesting news from the week, I'm going to share it in that format as well. And, yeah, first game is the 27th on Friday nights. All the games will be either on Fox or ESPN or ABC, because they are

partner owners of the league and and yeah yeah it's a really fun league to to watch it runs slightly faster than NFL games and I do highly

highly recommend so yeah I'll admit you're much more connected to the civic scene in Kansas City Missouri I know there are a lot of red

development plans and there was one I came across on a YouTube video long ago. They were building a deck across I-70 on the south side of the loop. What are your thoughts on that? Oh, you're talking about the, that, yeah, the 670 lid. You're talking about it. Basically turned that into a tunnel and I'm all for it. Yeah, it's an interesting idea. Well, it's already pretty much a tunnel underneath Bartle Hall.

You've stopped to think about it, right? So it's just extending that tunnel on the way to about grand and putting a park on top of it. So I'm all for it, you know, especially if their stated goal is to try to reconnect the downtown loop to the crossroads. Yeah, absolutely, all for it. What other projects similarly have you heard about? Other projects lately that I've heard of.

Well, I know about... Well, I know about the three streetcar routes that are currently being studied in some way, shape, or form. So we've got North Rail, which would take it onto the Heart of America Bridge into North Kansas City. We have the East-West study, which would take it on 39th and Lennwood Boulevard's from KU Med to the bus stop area at Van Brun. with a stop at the VA hospital. And the most recent one they announced was an 18th and Vine line, so 18th Street from Main Street to the 18th Vine District, which itself is being redeveloped.

They're turning that part of 18th Street between Paseo and Woodland, including 18th and Vine, and making a pedestrian only. How do you see this as far as, increasing civic pride of helping the affordability crisis that's happening in housing? What other positive things do you see coming from? Oh, I'm sure we'll see a lot of if the main street extension and the start line itself are, heck even, the riverfront extension. If there's any indication, we'll start seeing developments along those corridors

and I think just making it's easier for people to use the streetcar and all that. Now we're still a long ways away from those lines being reality, but the fact that they're even putting those plans into motion, I think that's big. This has come quite away from what they were even talking about 15 years. ago. Oh yeah. And downtown is definitely a library that was at that during that same time frame. And I think the streetcar played a huge part in that. So much more so than the Paranite District itself, in my opinion. For time, that had become inactive because one of the people. Because a white flight. well and and because one of the people who

had that as a vision passed away in 1999 and then it took about 10 years before they right all right well we don't have about four minutes left in this but I will see you on a Saturday right absolutely yeah I'll get yeah I'll get those free bagels

and we'll just probably on hopefully we get more people join this and I'm not going to try to eat 13 bagels and what's sitting that's the thing so well I mean if we if we filmed this then yeah well yeah we'll definitely be recorded

I don't know if we're going on oh I know I mean but you'll be filmed for the attempt I think it'd just be a straight audio recording for the attempt for this okay okay all right no no viral video moments no no no no but you can

but people can take photos and I'll probably take photos of everyone coming in and out with, yeah. That's a good moment for publicity. Yeah. I guess celebrates 200 episodes. Absolutely looking forward to it.

Thank you for you. All right, yeah. And I will see you then. And yeah, continue this 200 episode train. Or library. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yeah, yeah.

The bagel session of episodes 200, so-called because, courtesy of Einstein Brothers bagels. No, they did not endorse this. But I did give me enough points with them to get a free baker's dozen bagels. I'm not going to try them all in one setting, so I open it up to friends of the podcast to come back and help celebrate this milestone. And Chris Hart is back.

Not only back for this episode, because he jumped in when I was doing my picks, but also back in terms of being part of the Three-Timers Club. Now, of course, to be a friend of the podcast, just appearing on the podcast. Three-timers Club has three-times credited that you're paying on the podcast. and this episode will actually be Chris's fourth time

appearing on the podcast so he's already part of the Three Timers Club and also has one of the distinctions of being one of the first eight guests I approached in being on the podcast back when we started in 2019 I appreciate that also

I've known you for more than 20 years yeah We were in the Johnson County Community College Improvisation Society at the similarly named community college. So I would put that around 2002 or 2003. 2004. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

Because it was after I had gotten my degree at UKC. And I went back to school to a, well, I had a day to. trying to look for a job and that's ultimately how I got the security job but B to learn how to write business plans and I was just getting into making media overall making film specifically and approached the the sketch comedy group hopefully to find actors to work with and that's how I'm at Chris and we did a couple little things including the first take of chasing Eden and sometimes I wonder about Holden

that was your line yeah I he's like a sponge you just takes from people doesn't really get back and yeah I put myself in that short film too Job I had forgotten some of the dialogue

I remember the experience but I had forgotten the Well, that line I specifically remember you improvised. Hence, my liking to improvise in film. And certainly everything about this podcast has been improvised.

But yeah, it helped me again the door of independent film. In fact, remember that last meeting they ever had. Right after me, I mean, I went to my first I have seen meeting because we had Kelly and Deb show up, who have been, who become a real good friend,

Kelly, especially, had been a good friend over the years. And so, and actually there's a short film it's been talked about on the podcast before. I don't think you can see it right now, unfortunately, but it was on YouTube for a while.

It's called a effing bottle of bleach. I met in, so it's Kelly. Kelly actually plays my wife in that film. The plot of this film is Kelly is the wife. She starts seeing messages on bleach bottles everywhere, even if it's not actually a bleach bottle. So she sees, yeah, die. Is what the first label says, right?

But it's just a regular bottle of bleach. Then the second bottle she sees, it says kill yourself but it's not it's neither on the actual label

nor is it's actually a bleach bottle it is I'm going to test your anime knowledge here a stuff Chiochan

toy do you know the reference not right off please okay it's in anime

and there's a manga associated with this as well called Asamanga Dio. Oh, okay. Chio-chan is like 10 or 11 when the show starts. She's a really, really young girl with pigtails. In a classroom of otherwise normal high school. Yeah, otherwise it's high school. Yes. It's high school, and she's just that smart that you got in high school at age 10 in Japan.

and it's like a four-panel comic that wasn't up originally yeah and I believe I actually I actually own the an omnibus of it so it's meant to be

it's inspired as a comedy but you have a piece of merchandise from that and that's in that film okay it's Chiao Chan is actually crying on this piece of merchandise.

And that, I think, I think is a reference to, there is a sequence in the anime, I think it's in the manga as well, where Chiochan and some of the other girls, they go on vacation with their teacher, Ms. Yukari. I know this is very unorthodox in the American, context. But, but, uh,

but, uh, you car is a bad driver. So bad that, uh, Chiochan gets scarred for life.

Just riding in the backseat. We should talk about that being emotionally scarred. Yeah. Uh, we ain't afraid of roller coasters no more. And,

and Shia Chow chan specifically when they come back to the school, she's specific, uh, please slow down. Please slow down. I don't want to talk. No, you're hitting the grandpa.

You're hitting the grandpa. So there's that. And my line was, quit being douched. This is Junior Chiok-Chon Toy. And the next thing, she's making cookies. Again, she sees the cookies as a, another bleach ball.

And the bleach ball this time is saying, Joe's cheating on you, Joe is my character. Right. And she shows me. the bleach bottle which then becomes a trade of cookies and explain this

it's a fucking cookie it says you're cheating on me and then the next time of me eating the cookie and I hold the cookie up as another bleach bottle and says worship Satan on the bleach bottle and then

I had the pan on taking a bite into the bleach bottle. Supposed to be the cookie from my point of view, right? And then, it's telling me to worship Satan. And then I play it along like, oh, yeah, the cookies starting to talk to me now. Oh, okay.

It's telling me you belong to a freaking insane asylum. Apparently this was based on a real-life person that the filmmaker, Micah Hoosero, had experienced in Westport's when the IC was meeting in Westports, he ran to this homeless person who yelled and was like, you fucking bag a bottle of bleach, motherfucker. As some produced material for that screws,

it was intended to be bookended by the woman on the streets, yelling, yeah, you fucking balladleash, motherfucker. That scene was never... That scene was never shot, as far as I know. Yeah. But it was a fun little shorts to help with and everything. I did not write it, of course. So I just played the part of Joe.

That was in 2006? That was probably after 2006. I was working on Silpada at the time, and that was 2007 to 2010. Okay. Yeah. So in that time frame. Yeah. All right.

So I'll turn the floor over to you if you have any questions for me. Well, I know you've been doing podcasts for a little while, but I, and this is the third? Yes. Okay. So the first podcast was Sunflower Brew, political discussion while drinking craft beers. And that ran December of 2012. when I went back to Juko for the third time, in that case,

to study video and TV and all that. And stuff I were around through, I want to say September of 13, so not quite a full year, but still a lot of fun. That one, of course, Zach Lulia was the host, and he was a producer,

and asked me to help with production and edit anything. and recording all that. So all the hard stuff that, the not so glamorous stuff that I still do with this podcast to this day. And Winkside Coaches, that was the second podcast.

And Chris, by the way, came up with the name. And that started actually near the end of the Self-Lyber run in 2013. And I want to say until 16 or 17, maybe 18, even. And that was sports discussion. I've had Tim back on the podcast. Unfortunately, one of the

co-hosts, one of the main co-hosts I had with that podcast, Mr. Rylan Lundy passed away. Unfortunately. Quite a tragic death. He was still quite young at the time. No, I haven't

been 15. Yeah. No. No, I'm sorry. Allen died in 15 and I still kept going for a little bit longer and the parts of both of those podcasts now live within uncalled for because there are there there do come times where I'm where I'm just having a drought of guests so whatever so I have this material that I still have access to and it's still relevant to what I want to discuss, I want to explore. So, yeah, let's recycle it.

And I own all the masters. So, yeah, there you go. And then this particular podcast, I'll call for, I started in May 2019. And we've been going since. So clearly we're at 200 episodes here. And just a spoiler alerts for everyone listening, we are going beyond two.

200 episodes. We saw it's plenty of season 10 to release after this releases and then we're off to season 11. And I have no intention to stop in any time soon because I'm just having too much fun with this. And all that. So any other questions you have for me here? Oh absolutely. I just for a moment my mind My mind went, went blank for a moment there. I should have taken a little bit more time to prepare some more notes. I think it might be important to note about the schedule and about what time this would actually be released. So, so you'll be listening to this the last weekend of May.

Okay. All right. that just as a framing device, because I was going to talk about something that was current, I actually have a co-worker who was involved in a robotics tournament. Cool. And it's Mill Valley High School, and the robotics tournament is the,

I apologize, I'm looking that up. Yeah, that's only fine. Folks, I look up stuff all the time. I want to join the thoughts episode and reading articles. I'm actually reading the articles on my computer here while it's recording. Oh it's first robotics competition Heartland Division. It's in Shawnee. This usually it's during spring break obviously so that they can have access to more of the facilities.

I understand that Thursday is generally a prep day. They do have events on the Friday and on a Saturday. As we are recording, this is actually Friday, sorry, Saturday. It blends together. My job at work second shift, and it's midnight when my day is getting done. So it blends together very, very easily. It's actually Saturday, March 21st. Today's 21st, yes.

Yeah, so just if we're talking about stuff that's happening right now, that that needs to be mentioned, despite the release schedule. And just... So, the fact that you learned quite a bit on the production side means that you were able to be more self-sufficient when you started your own podcasts. Yeah, yeah, and certainly helps that there's a lot of crossover between editing video and editing for podcasts.

So the main difference is with video. Obviously, I'm dealing with the visuals as well. With this, it's just the audio. So a lot of those lessons easily transferred to podcasting. And you were talking about the number of impressions that you've had from the podcast. Oh, yeah. So as of this particular recording, we're over 28,000 downloads. And we've celebrated certain goals like 100,500,000, 2,000, 5,000, 10, that 20,000, 25.

So, so yeah, I'm all about to celebrate those milestones as well. And of course, we did the five year as well. And you were part of that. That was how you got your three-timer. which I'll go on start right there and say three-timer scope does not apply to co-hosts because with co-hosts they're expected to be on more than three times let's be honest so I was not aware of what the expectations of a co-hosts were but it's important that you it's important that expectations are set

yeah and a lot of it's just you know coming off the fly because not I haven't had that many people be part of the three-timers club so obviously you're one of them

Luke and Dan obviously part of it Brian Boy George Dean when Amy joins us later she'll be part of the three-timers club

Coach Dalton and Brian are also in the three-timers club. And what's interesting is that just the variety of people have brought on. Because this is more of a general interest podcast. It's not necessarily ended politics, not necessarily ended. So I'll talk politics, I'll talk religion, I'll talk film and acting with people, I'll talk chess with some of my co-workers. Sports somewhere in there, I'm sure.

Yeah, yeah, there's definitely sports in there. My first co-host actually walked away from the podcast because I was talking about sports too much. Well, just to, no one's going to know that both you and I are wearing sports paraphernalia right now unless we tell them. You're actually a graduate of Shoney Mission East. Shandishon West.

I'm a Viking now. Okay, well, I'm going to get my facts wrong. Especially, even though I can see the, you're wearing a cap with their name. Very clearly says, Shine, Mission West Vikings. Yes, well, I'm going to tell you, I, people who talk to me enough know that I confuse East and West all the time, even when I'm talking about directions. That's just something that happens. But the other thing that you're wearing is for. Asstonville Football Club.

Which is in Birmingham. in England. My shirt is actually just from Savers and it's a chicken-up shirt. Otherwise known as the University of Kansas Jayhawks. But also it's for baseball, which is for baseball, yeah. And I found that at a second-hand store, so I did pay any more than for any other shirt that I got there. It's just the quality of material and however they wanted to price it. Yeah.

So, of course, regular listeners to the podcast also know I'm a UMKC grad in first Missouri, Missouri, Kansas City, which does not have football and doesn't have baseball, interesting enough. And that's funny because a UMKC man was involved in the baseball player strike of 94, and then later that entire lockdown season in the NHL, I want to say 2005. Of course, I'm about Don Fier, who was an East Grand before going to the UKC, and whose son, David, I did try to do some film with David's an actor.

Oh, good. Oh, man. And a really good guy. And that's one of my security stories. I actually met Don Fier once. Oh, wow. It should be said that the University of Missouri, Kansas, does have a basketball team.

Division of one basketball, yeah. And they are the, what are the, for kangaroos. Yeah, so officially for the long time we were kangaroos, and then the last few years they officially dropped it to just ruse, which is what we were calling ourselves informally anyway. What is the, what color is the mascot? Our color, our school colors are blue and gold. Okay.

Yep. Which Jukos colors, Juco's the Cavaliers, and they're also now blue and gold. Because when we were first going there, it was a Burgeny and Gold. Yes. Washington football colors. So, yeah, they switched to Bill and Gold

when I retired for the third time to do video and all that. And of course, just to completely get tri-edge on Mission West color is black and gold. Now we're, like I said, at the start of this podcast, it's the 21st of March.

So we're taught, the sports world, the primary focus right now is the National Collegiate Athletics? Yeah, yeah, the same picks I gave earlier this week. What does NCAA stand for?

National Collegiate Athletics Association. Okay. Okay. Of which there are hundreds of schools and these are specifically the schools in Division I. Okay. Right? Which includes UMKC. Which includes UMKC and a lot of the other big schools that people have heard of most likely.

And most of these are broken down by... There are 31 conferences right now. Each one has at least an automatic bid. And more I get that automatic bid, you have to win a conference tournament. But the big-name schools like KU, University of Missouri, Columbia, and Kansas State, these are what we're talking about with big schools. UMKC's what would be class as a mid-major. So it's not a big school, but it is Division I.

How are they determining that by the number of enrollment? I'm sure enrollment has something to do with it, but really if we're talking about what makes a school big everything it's probably has to do with the procedure that's institution and its sports programs which all it a good portion of it besides the level of attendance is obviously funding yeah yeah and some it's a blend it's not entirely public schools and not and there are some private schools in there too so yeah heck if if we're going to I'll use the big 12 as an example so KU K state those are public schools

but also in that conference is Brighamian University right which is associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Baylorer University and in this conference, they're, I think, a Baptist College, actually. And then you have a Texas Christian College, TCU. I've always been a fan of University of Notre Dame, which is very famously a Catholic school. Independent in football, but it's ACC and everything else. And, of course, the Dukies are in the ACCC as well.

And that's a private school to Duke University. I just want to give this a little bit more of a flare Because I appreciate the time that we took ahead of the broadcast You were looking at all your statistics You had at least 1.8% of your overall impressions being in the last In the month of March 26th That's that and you also have a fair amount of international Mm-hmm

Yeah And we've done international recordings so so what's available and as of this recording as you're listening to this my first ever international recording was the Kronky app episodes British guy living in Amsterdam and the Netherlands and that's a lot of fun several Canadian guests And this is spoiler for Chris, but not spoiler if you're listening when this comes out. So we had a, I guess, call it from Honduras and another one from Nicaragua.

And spoiler for season 11, we'll have one calling it from Chainnet. you're not you're not above or below impersonations yeah which is weak person giving in

Virginia that is the limits of my well my Donnie impression is intentionally bad well yes

I there's a lot to be there's a lot to be said there's a lot to be said there. Me, I have nothing particular on

that subject for the moment, for the moment. Like I said, I am not too involved in behind the scenes. Perhaps this being the 200th episode, what are some of your favorite episodes?

What are some of the struggles you've had in making this particular podcast? What continues to drive you and what continues to drive you mad about making the podcast? All right. So I maintain my favorite episode all the time is with Conrado, Ches Guy. What was interesting about that was we recorded that while driving. Do not try this at home. Just I had my phone recording it and then just edited it after we're done.

and was especially special about that episode was basically driving was now the riverfront extension of the street car before I even knew they were putting a track on that part of the road past that dog bar that is now closed unfortunately and that we're commenting on it as something yeah it looks like they built a shipping container There's Conrado. You bring your dog. You get drunk. And the dog, take you back home. My favorite moment, my favorite quote of the podcast,

and when I had Jimmy Morrow on, Jimmy is a local actress who spent time in Hollywood and was fairly recently president of the IFC. and I asked her what genre of films would you like to work in and her answer was, well, is paid the genre? I think I might include these trailers in the NFL, I did, but yeah, that has a funny moments. Bringing experts on, I want to give a shout to Marnie and Nick, Marty Stonkman and Nick Coniglio, who both came on.

They wrote a book called Lead It Like Lassow, as in Ted Lasso, as in Sean Mission West's own, Jason Siddakis. He based the character off of our basketball coach and by Geometry teacher, Donnie Campbell. and they were just interested in hearing stories about Campbell and then going into more detail about me and stuff that I was a lot of fun and all roads lead to Mr. Campbell. It was interesting what you're saying

because they were as interested in hearing about your experience as you were about them but it was primarily but a good portion of that interaction was understanding your interaction for the real world personality that inspired a fictional character. Yeah. They still got there was still there was that was one of the strong intentions. Yeah. Well the funny thing is I had a year overlap with Siddakis at West.

He was a senior. I was a freshman and actually never met the guys but but I did have Campbell absolutely and that is one of my long-term goals with this podcast I still want gets Siddakis and Paul Red and both West guys on the podcast at some point so if anyone at the big slick is listening yeah I tried emailing you guys last year and never heard back from me this So, yeah, if I had a, if I had a dream guest to bring on, that would certainly be it. With a minor, I'd say secondarily Travis Kelsey, I'd like to bring on too. It's going to be a minor spoiler for those listening to live, but the week after this releases,

we'll have Jason Ward on. Jason is one of my coworkers at the Kansas City Chess Club, who happens to live in the same neighborhood that Travis Kelsey was living in. At the time, he started dating the pop star. In fact, I had to drive by Kelsey's old house to get to Jason's to do that interview. So it was all fun. And speaking of, Jason, speaking of Travis Kelsey, there is a, there is a, moment on his podcast where he actually read something that I wrote and read verbatim.

And funnily enough, Conrado was kind of involved with this story too. So the full story is I was picking Conrado up. I stopped plenty of time to kill. So I stopped by this diner in Edwardsville where Conradot lives. The place called Grill 32. K-32 is right there. Kansas Highway 32. Correct.

Yeah. Correct. This would be, yeah, that portion between K-7 and I-435. On the Kansas side of the Kansas City metropolitan area. Yes, and north of Kansas River. So, yeah, I stopped by this diner, which is in the old post office building. And so on the menu, they had something called. the new heights club which is probably a club sandwich am i understanding that's correct it's a triple

decker sandwich oh the top part is basically a philly cheese steak oh because this thing's tall yeah i've said as the but as tall as this microphone let's see uh we're probably talking Oh, let's Let's see here I'm trying to do conversion to international units but what we're talking about of, let's just use standard

and we're talking about a sandwich that's like four inches tall. Yeah, that's about right. So yeah, the top part is Philly Cheesesteak. That would be 10 centimeters. That would be 10 centimeters. And the bottom part is basically a BOT but they put luncheon and they put

luncheon on it and they put some luncheon cheese of mayonnaise on it. And yeah, so Travis Kelsey read that verbatim on New Heights. And

Jason Kelsey, who was planned for Philadelphia at the time, hence the Philly cheese steak part of it, is like, well, that sounds good, but other than the mayo, and personally I like the mayonnaise, but Travis, he doesn't like the mail. And then

then I led to, uh, I'm going to spare you with the detail. I'm going to spare you the noise, but I'm going to tell everyone to go to YouTube and search Mayo ASMR. And the clip is Mayo ASMR, featuring Travis Kelsey. I just hear just somebody whipping it.

And no, I'm not going to do the noise, but the caption of that thing is, on holy whipping noises. And they bring that back from time to time, any time they mention mayonnaise, on that show. They have that as a cue key on their, I think a lot, well, a lot of streamers on everything,

they have their board set up where they can press a button and call up the sound effect. No, except Travis does the sound effects himself. Oh, okay. So, yeah, anytime mayonnaise is mentioned on that show, he'll do that noise. That is delightful absurd. Yeah.

I'm reminded that you did, part of the time that you, part of your professional career was as a camera operator and working in the studio of Kansas City Public Television Channel 19. Mm-hmm, yep. And it's a good time to tell people, donate to your local PBS station. and NPR for that matter.

Especially after what Donnie did to funding for public media. Those are outlets that really could use all the help they can get. And if you can give, if you can donate, you know, please do. Because, yeah, the stuff that the individual stations do, that's mostly going to be for local consumption stuff like Sesame Streets and all that that does get beamed in true but that's the first thing I remember

Nick Haynes ever telling me when I was when I was there was that you know we only do local stuff here at the stations one of the local series that has I think picked up a little bit of an international following is rare visions on roadside revelations okay uh was that PBS that was KCPT correct all right yeah I think I have the full DVD of the NHS I was seen I think Randy Mason that worked on that and I did work with Rami and during

internships also part of your involvement in Kansas City Public Television has also made you more more aware of community and more, but also it's probably your involvement with the independent film club, but also you certainly have a point of view on civics and more of the community, especially on the Missouri side of the state line than I do. Well, I got on both sides of the state line, but yeah, but yeah, I'm certain, so Jersey because I also work in Missouri for the chess club and all that. And I am kind of the fact that it's half of our major league.

area is in Kansas and the other half is in Missouri. So it's it would be who be to know what all's going on in my community regardless of which side of the stand-line it is. I will put it to the fact that can we say how many of the last Super Bowls six I believe sorry what recently many of the last few years, the Super Bowl has included the Kansas State Chiefs? Five have included the local football team, including the aforementioned Travis Kelsey's, of which they won three. But you also have to go back 50 years for their last appearances.

So if you take all their appearances, they've appeared in seven. of which they've won four. They lost the very first one to Green Bay. Then they won Super Bowl four against Minnesota, and then 50 years, no appearances. Then all of a sudden they're in five of six Super Bowls, and they win three of them. See, it's beat San Francisco, lose to Tampa,

then beat Philadelphia, beat San Francisco, beat San Francisco, go again and then lose to Philadelphia. Which Andy Reid was the former coach. Andy Reid was... When he joined in 10, was that right? I don't know what... I don't know what he, but he was the coach in Philadelphia.

Yeah, I think 99 was his first year coaching in Philly. He drafted Donald McNam. It was one of my favorite players all time, not necessarily tied to any one particular team. the St. Louis fans. So from that, from that angle, yeah, you could say I'm a closet Philly guy. The other major sports team being the Kansas City Royals, now it had been the last time they went to the World Series and were victorious, well, they went in 14 and...

They lost in 14, 1 and 15. But they made it to the World Series in the World Series in the World. So the Royals have been to the World Series four times. Right. First time, 1980. Losing to Philly. 85, of course, beating the Cardinals and 7, and Cardinals fans will still talk about game 6 in that series to this day. They think, and honestly, I'm just going to say, if you're going to reverse Dinkinger's call in the game 6th,

you have to reverse Galaraga, the Detroit pitcher, it got relatively a perfect game. You have to give him a perfect. If you're going to give him a perfect game, you give game six of 87 to the Cardinals, therefore retroactively stripping the Royals of a series win

because the cards were up three games to two at that point. But after I call, the cards just choked, Royals going back to win it, and then they do nothing in game seven. Then, and then 29 years between, never mind World Series of Barrens, playoff appearances total. All right. So, so, yeah, 14, they lost to San Francisco, and 15.

The Year the Cubs were supposed to win, according to a certain movie. That's when they beat the Mets. the other major sport franchises they're they're currently called Sporting Casey yeah but they've had some more colorful names in the past Casey Wiz KC Wizards and sporting so yeah during my internship at KCPT I got to meet Kai Kamara when he was playing for sporting he gets in on an interview with the aforementioned Nick Haynes. Oh, so I noticed

the governor didn't shake your hand. Oh, don't worry about it. Nick. Oh, I thought I might have like to meet someone likely voted for him. No, I fought for that guy. Oh, you're the one. Nick Haynes is Welsh, by the way, if you couldn't tell him my accent there.

I'm afraid they could not. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people, especially locally, think he's English. He's definitely British, but he is Welsh. So then a more

recurrence player, Dejan Yovalich turns out he's a good chess player. He's been to the chess club once, and sporting brought a video crew with him to that.

So you get to see him certainly on the sporting YouTube channel you can find this video, but he's playing Blitz Chess with some of our members, including a couple of friends of the podcast, Coach Dalton, and Nick Mantling. And then at the very end of the video,

you see me get Yvalliach an honorary membership to the Kansas Chess Club. And talking with my boss recently, it sounds like he's taking advantage of it, with Pride. efforts lessons. So we'll send one of our instructors to his house for him to get his chess in and everything. So that's really cool to hear. And one of the stories I went into making this podcast with is another friend of the podcast.

Actually, a guy got on just before I got you on for the first time, Trevor Martin. Trevor did a Minsky's commercial with Graham Zussi Mincy's being particularly Midwestern style pizza and

part of the thing is that there was a schism and they ended up being two separate companies I think am I hearing, am I remember? I'm not too sure about the entire I'm not sure the entire history of

Mitzkies, but they are a higher quality pizza than you would find that pizza hut from something. And they do great pasta too. But this particular commercial, Graham Zusee with sporting was delivering a pizza to a family. And then Trevor played the dad in that commercial. So I thought, yeah, I got Trevor on. I'm going to ask him about that commercial. He told me all about the behind the scenes that's people just outside of acting. They'll get to hear these stories.

And I was bringing up the Chiefs and the Royals and supporting KC. What, like I said, just point to the fact that we, you do have some people who do listen internationally. I was looking at the ways that Kansas City is, Oh, yeah. Draws world interest. One of the other things that came to mind, of course,

is Liberty Memorial, also known as the National World War I. World War I Museum and Memorial is the official name of that street car stop now.

And that was a fantastic dovetail because up until the 60s, Kansas he did have a very nice streetcar system. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It ran until it was actually like 50s and like so many other streetcar systems throughout the US, they were bought out and paved over to force everyone to start driving.

Now, Casey's current streetcar, that's started, this will be the 10th year of it operating because it opened May 2016 with just that first starter line between Union Station. and the river markets. This is being on the south side of the Missouri River. Yes, yeah, south side of Missouri River, exactly. And it's still not everyone is aware that Kansas City is Kansas City, Missouri, and then there are cities in Windup County, Kansas, that incorporated and became Kansas City, Kansas. And you can say Kansas City,

and most people are going to understand Kansas City, Missouri. But whenever you talk about Kansas City in Kansas, everybody says Kansas City, Kansas, or simply KCK. CaseyK, yeah, KCK, if you're a local, you know, and we'll occasionally say KC mode or refer to the Kansas City, Missouri. I'm going to say I had the privilege of trying to ride the street car. However, I do not travel to downtown Kansas City very often. and I did not plan well. I was not sure were to park. Well, with the new extension,

you don't have to worry about parking because you can park in the plaza for free. The mainstream extension, oh yeah, you can hear, I got audio for that that's been released at this point. From when that's, when that's extension opened,

because I was there. And, yeah, it runs now from, yeah, the extension's UMKC to Union Station. The plaza has the second to last stop in line, UMKC, so UMKC and then the Plaza. And the plaza, you could park there for free, walks to the Plaza streetcar stop and just get on the streetcar there. one of the major things again that is going to bring Kansas City into the international

spotlight is the fact that many of the games of this year's World Cup are being hosted in the U.S. Yep. But what is your take on the city's ability to support that influx of people and

what are What is your opinion on the streetcar adding to that? And what do you think the experience is going to be? What do you think of what's your impression of the city's ability to host and the way that they have designed the venues, etc.? Okay, so the game's going to be played at Arrowhead, which there's no streetcar or any sort of rail access to the air. So a couple of years ago, the streetcar authority in conjunction with the area transit authority started an east-west study, the western side of which would be KU med, the eastern end of which was the stadiums.

However, they determined, A, no rail is going to be running on that corridor before. 2032 at the earliest and B there's a gap between the existing bus stop over at Vembrance and the same themselves that the population doesn't see is not there to justify rail at this time so they thought well let's just run a bus between the two and once this line is up and running but but it'll be a while before that line is even up and running and unfortunately I think it's going take

I don't think we're going to see much funding for that before January of 29 because we have a dip shit in the office right now who thinks among other things that's the noise from windmills causes cancer

you're specifically talking about the U.S. president yeah okay because I I don't know much about politics on the state level. I don't know what opinion you have of the Missouri governor. I don't have enough information to have an opinion on that.

The last governor of Missouri, I really had much of a high opinion of was Jay Nixon. And that was in the 90s? He got, he was last in office of 2016. Okay, okay. Okay. All right. So I don't have much of, I don't have a very good opinion about the current guy, Kehoe is the guy's name.

Okay. Well, I see him saying, well, we're going to get rid of income tax in Missouri. Well, how ain't going to make up for that? Just saying, I don't want to get into a big political discussion here, but that's basically what he's trying to push. Never mind. Okay, yes, you do have two major cities within your city limits, Kansas City and St. Louis. Other than that, you don't have much in terms of. industry or

tourism is there these are things that states like Texas and Florida can get away with and Nevada can get away with because those industries do so well naming an

industry does that well in Missouri Kansas already tried this shit about 10 years ago and that failed miserably and that was why I was asking because I I am not knowledgeable on this and I appreciate any take on it. What do you think of the ability for the road systems,

the public transit besides the street car to handle? Well, when's the last time you took a bus around here? Well, I'm going to say I am pretty much exclusively on the Kansas side. I have lived in the suburbs. On the Kansas side, my whole life, and most of the time I drive to get anywhere. because you have to because you have to

because the bus is certainly on this side and the state line our joke okay so yeah hopefully hopefully we get

more rail in coming years but that's the key thing is it's going to take years to get that sort of infrastructure I put in but they've done the studies oh they're doing the

they're doing the studies they're doing at least three the street car authority in themselves are doing at least three studies right now for future lines. But the one you were talking about specifically, it's called East West, and yeah, it would go... The other thing is that the numbered streets in Kansas City of Missouri,

they count going north and south, from where the Missouri River is east and west. So from Missouri River, one closest to Missouri all the way down, and then North River, remember the same thing in reverse. And then KCK is weird because it's the north-south south. streets are numbered. Specifically the corridor that you were talking about that was going to be under study and we would probably not see anything until 2032 is along 39th Street.

39th streets between Main Street and Rainbow Boulevard, which is KU Med. And then the other part of that study is a Linwood Boulevard, which is also east-west from Main Street to Van Brough. This is, I don't know how much. this rule interest listeners but let's it was important to be specific mm-hmm yeah yeah so that's one of the three studies the streetcar authority are working on the the another one's called north rail which would tell you it from the uh the uh prefermarket loop you would extend the it's actually extend the loop a little bit more uh east towards uh Columbus park and then take it across harvard

America into North KC. Now, review with me. North Casey is the suburb. KC. North is anything in Kansas State proper

north of the Missouri River. Oh, yes, but the Heart of America Bridge, which U.S. Highway is that? It's State Highway 9. Oh, that sounds right. That sounds right.

Because I know we have U.S. 169. That's Buckle-Neil Bridge, which just opened, but just reopened. And then they closed part of it, close part of that down anyway, because not so much the new bridge,

rather the old bridge, just on the other end of the downtown airport, near Barcliffe. And how long ago was it that they, so that they... Very, like went on the last year, that bridge opened. And they used to have a bridge that was built in the 50s. and that was the bridge for I-35 over the, or what became I-35 over the Missouri River. Yeah. And they replaced that, and that was called the Casey Icon Bridge, or is there another?

They kept on the bridge. Okay. Yeah, named after Missouri Center. And then the... And that's 35 and I-29, too. So 29 actually starts at that point. Okay. And they diverge.

Further north, yeah. Slightly further north, yeah. So 35 towards the list. Liberty, 29, towards the airports, Platt City, St. Joe. And technically, through the Dakotas. Yeah, yeah, 29 goes through the Dakotas, yeah. I-35, going up to Des Moines and then ending. Des Moines, Minneapolis, and up to the, up to the, up to the, up to the, to

the fourth. Yeah, which was, yeah, the foreign. And, of course, that 35 continues south. in Wichita, Oklahoma City, Dallas-Farworth, Austin, and San Antonio, you know, all the way to the Mexico order. I've forgotten what, where. Oh, so tell me about, are you watching any of the World Cup games that are hosted here locally? Do you have any favorites coming up?

or to be determined because I know there's still some spots that are going to be filled and of course you heard we're hosting three of those national teams here in Kansas City not including Algeria

because that's Lawrence and I want to get that out of the way right now if there's about half an hour of a rural space between between metropolitan areas. You ain't behind the metropolitan area. Sorry to tell you that.

I'm sick of these people saying Lawrence is a, they're essentially a KC suburb. No. For exactly the reason I just said. Lawrence is their own thing. Which is also where the University of Kansas. Yes. Yep. That's about the only notable thing I meant. Lawrence ran as. That's where KU is located. St. Joe,

arguments there's a that one that case is about an hour of rural space between between bad plant city and st. Joe. I'm going to guess that perhaps the I I know people who have paid to view the people who yeah paid for seats yet to what are Do you have any opinions? Well, I'll find you mention that because my sister was in the hospital last weekend.

I'm sorry to hear that, sir. Yeah, for, it sounds like something similar to what put me in the hospital a few years ago. TIA. The, I think it was a nurse, came in and talked with my

sister brother who was going on. It turns out he was a football fan by me. I mean, association. football of course and turns out he's a Manchester United fan one of the great things of English football so but but he specifically was not happy about having to pay three grand for a for the cheapest seats at our head for World Cup well of course we keep in mind to since you're since you asked me about to transit yeah they need where they have buses running right now.

I think buses are a good alternative in lieu of rail, but they cannot be a replacement for rail. The powers that happen to be hearing this, I expect studies on implementing rail on these fucking lines within the next 10 years. All right. Especially if, especially if,

you know, the World Cup becomes an indication that we should be doing so because a lot of the people are coming in are used to some form of rail transit, especially if they're coming in from London. Yeah. Because we'll have the English here, we'll have the Dutch here, and we'll have Argentina here. And yeah, I think the Dutch have a pretty good public transit as well. I'm not sure about Argentina. And, of course, England, especially in London, but they've figured out how to do rail transits.

In your experience, have you traveled internationally? Have you traveled many other places? And what is your opinion? Only in the U.S. Only had never been overseas. Why I know about particularly London's transits get from YouTube. shout to Jeff Marshall and Jay Foreman. Other metropolitan areas that you've gone to?

St. Louis. St. Louis. I took MetroLink while I was there. I like it. Coming from the dome to the Galleria in the suburbs and then safely back. So yeah, I will recommend the Metro. Lincoln, San Luis. I didn't know if you'd gone to any other large cities or... Well, the largest day I've been to Chicago, and my experience there is limited solely to around the airports.

Oh, you were, you were, it was for you, Chicago was a stop. Oh, yeah, a couple of times. Okay. The first time would have been when I was very briefly in the Navy. Naval Transition is just north of Chicago. and had to fly in there. And the second time, I think, is the time we're thinking about that, was 2008 when I was forced to change planes there,

going to him from Minneapolis. And it's on the flight back. I got diverted to San Antonio. I am not nearly as far traveled. I've been to Houston, but that was because there was a we were staying at a recreational place

near there for it was connected with my parents' church that was a very long time ago that was that was that was 1991 oh wow that was the only time I've flown is from Kansas City to Houston and in a carnal or hobby

it was on rubber oh yeah it was it was kind of yeah yeah yeah I've fallen in there a couple of times, because I have relatives in Houston. In fact, yeah, as of this recording, my uncle has been dead for a couple of years now, and I've greatly benefited from his estate.

He is, we're currently trying to sell his house, which is in the Houston suburbs. And, oh boy, it's saying a while. I'm not going to go into two May specifics, just that stepchildren are involved. Well, you bring up another good point. I know of people who are trying to, so the other development with the Kansas City Chiefs is that there has been, so there was a referendum in, was it, 2004? Yeah, yeah.

A lot of stupid people not wanting to go downtown. for baseball. And part of this... But they're going to wind up downtown anyway, get used to it, folks. Part of this was... It was an increase in the sales tax. It was a continuation of the current sales tax. Okay.

And basically, neither the chief organization nor the Royals organization or whomever was trying to promote the tax was able to promote it successfully, it was defeated. Yeah, it's mostly the Royals trying to get that tax done, it would pay for their new ballpark.

The chiefs would have been fed by being able to stay at the Truman Sports Complex. But a lot of people think it was sabotaged from the beginning by a certain county executive who shall remain endless, but we'll just say was a legend with the Royals back in the day. And that's Jackson County, Missouri. Yes. specifically. The other thing is that the Kansas Chiefs, at some point in the near future,

they will likely no longer be at Arrowhead Stadium. That's correct. That's correct. Yeah, the current news you're hearing about that is that the state of Kansas gave them a stadium deal. The stadium site itself will be just to the immediate west of Village West. Which is where the Kansas Speedway, which opened in 2001, and has, I'm going to read from their marketing materials, has one of the best guests experiences. But they're in the, Sporting KC also plays out there. And then they also have a minor league baseball field.

Minor league ballpark, yeah. But this is, this is creating an interesting situation for anyone in that area because it, It is what we may find happening to residents on our higher property taxes. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's going to happen. So there are some people who are simply trying to sell homes and move so they don't have to deal with it. This is a thing that is happening in Wynda County. Yeah, and a little bit in Johnson County, too, because this deal includes a new training facility on Atlanta. which

there's a there's a there's a there's a there's nothing on the site they're talking about right now

maybe an old farm well maybe an old farm but that's oh but nearby you have the Olattha uh community

convention center and you also have yeah there's another sports facility near that soccer fields okay

soccer fields and yeah there's some shops email into the north that's at that side itself is currently just a farm lane. And vaguely on the infrastructure improvements there, they redid the interchange with Ridgeview and Kansas Highway 10, it's a diverging diamond where the traffic crosses over to the opposite side of the bridge

so that oncoming... Yeah. And so the traffic can... The right turn lanes can more easily enter and exit. the highway. Interestingly, the first interchange of that kind was actually in Springfield, Missouri in 2009. Oh, cool. We've already seen a couple of these types of interchanges around here. 95th Street over a 35. On the Kansas side, also Roe Avenue over 435. And Homestead Road, very out south by the intermobile.

motor facility way out south in Jelta County. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. I went out there just to see what that was and then For me that's that's pretty far up to drive so I got lost pretty easily Out there okay. Yeah, that well there's others but those are but those are those are ones that come to mine Yeah, you're not to tell you what exactly what that It's changes that you're talking oh it's very but it's primarily for heavy truck traffic from right from rail to truck and so it's it's it's designed to be dealing with, with, I don't know what that used to be,

but, yeah, of course there's been a lot of areas that have, Richard Gobower, that former, yeah, that's, South,

South Casey, almost belton. So that, that's become, that's become an inner, uh, mobile facility from truck to rail. Uh,

there was also the former sunflower ammunition plant. Yeah, and the, that is now going to, that is, in the next few years that it's going to be a beverage production facility for Panasonic. They've already built a facility and it's just on the northern edge of the old plants. Yeah, I've actually seen that the warehouse been built until the last time I tried to drive out west.

So in conjunction with my uncle's passing, they needed a birth certificate from me. So I had to go out to Topeka to pick up a valid copy of. of that. That is just on a commentary. Unfortunately, that is an unfortunate problem of the difficulty of being born on one side of state line versus the other. For a birth certificate in the state of Kansas, you do have to go to the state capital. And if you live, that is not so bad here on the east side of the state because it is only about an hour's drive. It's about nine and a half. right and I have between Kent City and Topeka. Yeah. You have to go through

Lawrence, which is about halfway. But yeah, Jefferson City for our listeners born in Missouri and right smack in the middle of the state. However, you don't actually have to go that far. It's two hours. Well, but if you were born there, you don't necessarily have to go that far.

I'm going to confess, I have been raised on the Kansas side and I have plenty of the ideas about Kansas, but I was actually born in Missouri. So you take from that what you will. I, there you go on that one. All right, that's all.

Totally fine, you know. Oh, yeah, but I'm just saying, I was born in Missouri, but I have, I have unfortunately learned to have negative ideas about Missouri, that just being on the Kansas side. I've got those on both sides of the same line. Well, which means that, you know, you have a more, you have a broader set of negative hands, and that shows growth. Yeah.

Yeah. So. So. Yeah. Yep, yeah, and I've said this before outside of Kansas City, St. Louis is my favorite city outside the area. So yeah, well, we've been talking for almost an hour, probably a little over an hour, so. So I think we're going to wrap this segment up here. So thanks once again for being on.

And thank you for the, I've enjoyed at least three different varieties here. Those, that pretzel bagel was, and, hey, the fact that they have these with fruit in them, that is, that is also very special. The cinnamon raisin is one of my favorites, as well as that pretzel. But thank you for the opportunity to join you again. Yeah, absolutely. You're always welcome. Thank you.

Okay, so we continue with our episode 200 extravaganza. And I'm joined by a friend of the podcast, Amy Bell. Hi. And her friend, Amy, what? I wish. Amanda Ferriante. Amanda Ferriante. Amy, before we continue, congratulations on being the newest member of the Three-Timmers Club.

Oh. Yeah. So the Three-Times Club just have to show up on the a podcast three times. Oh, okay. So I'm two away. I'll get there. I'll get there. I'll get there. Yeah, yeah. You'll never catch me though. It's possible. I'll never get to be an Amy two. We have been joking around the office. He works here. He's named Amy now. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, we even do it. We even do it. Yes. She tried to convince me she was Amy one earlier this week. I want superiority. I want to be first.

No. And of course partners at the fine law firm of Fariante and Bell. Yes. And the co-hosts of the podcast, these are bad movies, which we are also working on this evening. And we are going to be doing the screening of the movie Network from 1976, directed by, I think it's Sydney. I'm going to double-check my IMDB, but Sydney, Lumet, written by Patty Chiafsky that I do know. And close a few actors we have heard of, including Fay Dunaway, William Holden, Ned Beatty. I'm feeling very uncultured.

I've heard of one of those. I don't know if I've ever seen Fay Dunaway. I know the names, but I'm an old. Right. I'm so young. I'm a fetus. Basically. Yeah.

Basically. I'm really excited to see it, though. It sounds great. Yeah, I'm really excited for this. And I'm excited for this 200th episode extravaganza that we're doing here. Absolutely. Congratulations. Thank you.

I don't think, I think we're a ways away from you on that one. I think so. Yeah. All our podcast don't even reach the 200 mark. Exactly. Heck, I don't even think the Kelsey brothers have reached 200 yet, but they keep going at it and all that. You know, you just keep going. Just keep going. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we'll pause and then we'll come back and give you our review of this still relevant movie from 50 years ago.

All right. Awesome. All right. We are back. watched that movie. I sort of loved it. I loved it. I love a melodrama. Yeah, I know you do. I was waiting the entire time for someone to just start strangling the person across from them.

Right. Okay. That would have made the movie for me. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

So, yeah. So, yeah, what we saw was pretty much a lot of what happens stereotypically in newsrooms. It's been a while since I've been in a TV studio, but I don't remember being that cutthroat. Then again, it was public television. I might be the only one here. I thought the movie was terrible. Why? Part.

It was amazing entertainment. It was a little long. It was entertaining. I think it was almost an hour longer than it needed to be. Yeah. And that hour, the reason, it wasn't so much that it was dragging in that hour, as that they decided to throw in some plot lines that, frankly, didn't need to be there. Yeah, and I mean, it started off so strong.

Like, it started off as fantastic commentary on the media. and the news and who gets to decide what you hear in the news and how the ratings are and this. And then it devolved into just a spring, winter romance. And like, also some bizarre, well, actually the media is run by a bunch of communists, which is a bizarre take. It was. I mean, the other version is. power equals money and money is power which corrupts.

Sure, but there was a literal communist party that they were meeting with. Yes. The executives were in the communist party. Yes, it was hilarious. Yeah, it, uh, sorry. It was so bad, though. Like, how, I think it was so bad. Well, and so, okay.

And the, the, like, May, December romance is what I think. you're trying to stay there with spring chicken winter chicken that is all chickens yeah no okay it was so bad though like it was just i love you but you're not capable of love i do you think she loves you i don't think she's capable of love no kidding no kidding with it and then like just the like the like the stereo type of like woman that sleeps her way to the top. I think the plot was she was going to be on top regardless. Sorry.

If she wanted to. I think we've caught a night. We'll call it a podcast. We had a good run. Because I've never seen it before. I'd seen the big, the first big scene of get up and yell and get angry. I'm as hell. going to take it. Yes, and I've seen it parodied

to great effect. And so really loves that. But it was the boardroom, the corporate boardroom scene that I really delighted in. Yeah, that was, yeah,

Ned Beatty that you have milled with the primal forces of nature and you will atone. Amazing. It's you have a capitalist who sees an insane man and is like, I know how to steer the ship. And I think that explains Fox News.

And so these other, and this was, of course, Fox News didn't become a thing until the late 90s. So this is 20 years ahead of its time in that regard with corporations dictating the news and all that. And I think the communist angle is interesting too, because what's something else? you hear in parallel with Fox News being anything oh the mainstream media has a liberal bias like bullshit yeah no

and I think they knew in 1976 that it wasn't oh no no it's it's a hypothetical world where money is the only driving force in anything which is how you get that that boardroom speech

But it's not a hypothetical world. They were commenting on our very, very, very, very real world, and they were very, very, very close to absolute most true reality. And they just missed it. They just skirted past it. They ripped defeat from the jaws of victory on this one. Well, and the hour leading up to that, scene I just had it in my head over and over and over again like a 100 gex song money machine

money machine like it's because it's everyone vying for power over each other in this this corporate TV network and then you finally get the crazy guy who's like yeah money shut up or say what we want because money the first half was so good yes yes the first half they had me in the first half not going to lie. Yeah. Where it came back around for me is in the last two minutes where we got the greatest

screensaver effects I've ever seen in my life. And I'm like this show predicted AI TikToks where it's just color and lights and that's entertainment. And then it turned out my TV had gone to sleep.

And there was no screen saver. It wasn't that profound. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure, yeah, that's not how it ends and all that. And I'm just like, no, this is the only ending. This is the only way it could end, and I was wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But it's not just Fox News that it kind of predict, it did kind of predict corporate media ownership, which is why the idea of left-wing media bias is bullshit, because most of our media is owned by corporations, you know. NBC, that's Comcast. CNN, that's Time Warner, Discovery, or whatever's going on there. I know Paramount's trying to buy them out, which would open a whole different cameras.

Paramount itself owns CBS. Disney, owning ABC. Yeah, of course, Fox. Yeah. Have you seen, I think it was a John Oliver segment a couple years ago. That was about, you know, these large corporations buying out local news media and the same scripts being sent to every little news station on the same issues. And you can literally play it one for one across 100 screens. I know exactly what you're talking about. That's the Sinclair Group is the most responsible for that. and they're notoriously right-winging on that.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's the part where this movie was so, hit the nail right on the head, absolutely understood where things were going, absolutely understood, and they even called the propaganda machine. And that's what it is, and it does tell people how to think and how to feel about things. even I mean

I mean the murder hour the violence hour that they talk about in the first five minutes of hey we should really get like public executions on here that would be great ratings I'm like okay so the 24 hour news cycle yeah yeah easy and I mean you know I think

that from having news without bias is almost impossible because there's bias in what you choose to report on. There's bias on who you report as the victim versus

the perpetrator. How do you, you know, just frame any little thing. There's bias. I mean, I strongly believe that even the Walter Cronkites had bias, right? But it was

different, wasn't it? It was different than what we have now. It was. So, first of all, Cronkites, you know, he was cousins with Kay Barnes, the former mayor of Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, really? Yeah.

That's pretty cool. And two, I know exactly what you're talking about with the whole biasing customer. I interned at our local public television station. And the first time I ever met Nick Haynes during my internship there, he said, you know, we only focus on the local stuff. at this station and doesn't get any more perception of left wing

bias than public television but I'm telling you even in public television the bias really isn't there the way that people would like to think and it is there more than they like to think too that's that's my perspective like whenever I meet someone who thinks

they don't have bias I'm like, well, you did public radio, buddy. Yeah, I did public radio. Yeah. Same basic concept. Community radio. Sorry, excuse me. Yeah.

Yeah, same basic concept. You know, it's a public outlet for people to use in theory. And everyone has their own biases. This podcast has bias. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but I don't pretend that I don't. Fair. I'm this is this is

our podcast is your movie's bad your bias I'm gonna hate it I'm a truth bringer you call me a prophet I'm not going to oh well

that was that was also interesting too since you bring that up that's they that when they decided to make a spectacle the second half of the movie that's a The change of the set, of course, from the standard newsroom set that we stereotypically think of to more of a cathedral setting with the rotating platforms and all that.

Flash and lights. Yeah. It was like the price is right goes to church. Yeah. So what that honestly reminded me of was I got to watch Kesha live this last summer. And she had this whole song in number where she's like, I talk to God and God says, rapists suck. And I'm like, that's profit. You have a bunch of people who are buying what you're selling and you've got enough panache to pull it off.

It's good TV. Yeah? Yeah. It's really good TV in terms of entertainment. I mean, one of the things, too, they, I do believe. that the cult of personality, air quotes, newscaster, the opinion piece person, the pundit, I don't think those guys are crazy. I think they know exactly what they're doing.

Oh, yeah. I think they are the propaganda. Yes. And this, you know, this show made it seem like, well, we just got an unhinged person and took advantage of it. They don't show up on time. No, that. They don't show.

Show up on time. Leave it to you to be like, I have places to be. I can't work with crazy. Let's get someone who believes this. It's a logistics matter. Right. No, but someone who's genuinely crazy. You can't.

Logistics, baby. That's my point. I'll stick to it. No. And I still like, there was so much bad. There was, like, and I really liked the movie for the whole first heaven. It was so bad. The like complete mindless, I am going to sleep with everybody because I'm a businesswoman.

And she played it so well. It was really well done. She played that role so well. But the character was ridiculous. Yes. And yet it was balanced by like, there were so many more professional women than I see. Yeah. In typical 1970s depictions of media.

And different body types. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was really interesting. Yeah. Like usually a woman in the office doesn't have that many lines and is Faye Dunaway. Yeah. But there were more than just Faye Dunaways on screen.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was. I don't know her name off the top of my head. but she was in two and a half men. Contrada Farrell. She was in two and a half men and she was in Edward Cisorhands. She was one of the like busy body neighbors.

This was the larger bodied woman that you're referring to. I recognized her instantly. I'm like, ah, she's famous. I know what she said. but she was very young in this movie I thought it was kind of cool seeing her. Yeah. No, like, and that was all in the beginning, too.

There was so much more like female representation in the beginning. And then they were like, let's call this 80-year-old man middle-aged. Oh, I know. And that this 25-year-old hot shot business lady was just going to be beside herself because she needed 80-year-old man. Well, she thought he was cute when he lectured her in college.

I can understand that. And they gave a shout to M.U. University of Missouri, which is known as a journalism school. They also gave a shout out to Kansas City for the market wanting to cancel them for having that show on the air, which, you know, standards. Standards. Standards. Standards.

Yeah. It's fun to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was also just a very... It was very interesting because he never really said anything of any importance.

No. It's just the feeling in the fervor. He was just, I'm so mad. And that is what works. It is. Alex Jones. It's just the anger that sells. Yeah.

100%. And they go as far as saying that with the businesswoman. And the first hour was very good. In the first hour, she's like, put him on TV and get him angry. Yeah. I just, I'm still not getting over just how weird it was that the network was like the Communist Party. well the communist party got subsumed by the network because it's a money machine

the communist party that sect of it yeah that's just like the one woman who was a communist and then all of her criminal friends amy what they were the they were the people that were the bank robbers yeah they kidnapped erasks they make student films okay okay okay time out Time out. Time out. You are saying these words as though that plotline made sense. I'm just saying it was fun. That is also a prediction of things to come.

I mean, I think just a few years ago when certain morons, shall we say, decided it'd be a good idea to ransack the Capitol. A lot of these idiots had cameras on them and filmed their. activities and also for all the world to see it's always sunny did an episode on it TV money machine

on the January 6th right yeah it's still not communists no but was she a real communist or just a caricature well of course she was a caricature because that was a that that's how

movies work movies work but Well, yeah. Money machine. Money machine. Eat up your ideals. Only ideal is money. I also remember what's going on in the 70s.

We're still in the middle of the Cold War. You know? And so in theory, communism was still very much frowned upon. I'd say it's frowned on still. Yeah, I think so, too. Well, nowadays you hear. communists and socialists and terms like that being used towards anyone that anyone

anyone left of absolute and total authoritarianism exactly yeah um yes yes but even back in the 70s when the USSR was still going and we were still in the middle of the cold war and we still had a lot of red scare going on who in their right mind thought they were running corporations she wasn't running it she was just cutting deals yeah she wanted her network share that's all she had to pay her people it's about percentages baby this is just no money machine that's the movie that's the movie that's the movie i know You know, we didn't actually, we covered enough. We didn't actually just do the plot. We are so bad at doing our podcast now that we forget the bits that we do.

Okay. No, do you want to summarize the movie? Okay, so it starts with our bill, the anchor, doing so bad is a job that he gets fired. And he talks with his buddy William Holden who I just looked it up. He was in his like 50s when this movie was made, died at age 63. Which you would if you looked 80 at 59. No, all the men looked ancient.

Yes. They were gargoyles. Anyways, they're getting drunk and feels like, I'm going to kill myself. myself on air and then uh the next day he's doing his news programs on everyone yeah i got canceled so uh next week i'm going to kill myself right here on the on this uh now on this show and well you know uh that's that attracted uh an audience you know so so he keeps doing it doing it and uh he starts uh going a little crazy pretends like he's seeing God in his sleep.

He very much said that he didn't see God. And the being said, no, I'm not God. But why does that matter? You're just a TV man. Get on TV. Yeah. You're on television, dummy? Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. It wasn't God. It was something that sounded like God. Yeah. Yeah, that plays on that stereotype that those who see God must be having paranoid delusions or something like that. So anyway, he does. He was paranoid enough. They got him.

Yeah. So he winds up at one point in the middle of the rainstorm in his pajamas and trench coats on the sets and telling everyone, hey, everything's wrong in the world. You're just sitting here watching TV. So what I want you to do? Take action. Yeah. I want you to get out now. And that's triggered all.

I'm mad as hell. I'm not going to take it anymore. And pretty soon everyone in the streets is a, that's watch on TV. They're standing outside their windows, shouting. I'm mad as hell. I'm not going to take it anymore. So that's, it falls into this cathedral, like a show with all sorts of ridiculousness. And he's still telling corporate secrets.

at one point and that's what gets them in trouble with the boards the you're metal of the primal forces of nature bits and they start paying them off saying yeah we'll keep you on the air so as you promote our message yeah which is too depressing and boring and they're losing ratings and so they're the only solution is to kill them yeah so the last scene of the movie there are two of those that comments guys infiltrate the studio audience and kill them but they do it on live TV for the ratings on live TV for because the communists and the executives are on the same team well they make money and then also in the meantime you've got this whole devolving marriage plot yeah with this

like office nightmare romance yeah completely unnecessary one thing I did read is Is that Beal, the guy that played Beale? Peter Lynch. Peter. Pitch. Pitch. He kept, like, keeling over. Which was hilarious.

Except that for the press tour, he actually collapsed and died of a heart attack. Oh, wow. While standing next to the director. Wow. That's really good. Wow, that's, I, yeah, you hear the darnest. things. But yeah. Wow. At 60. You would not. Because these guys don't. No. You can't live long. You can't make

yourself. When you're 80 at 45. No. Wow. I'm really glad you read that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's wow. And, and of course, Robert Duvall is the the corporate exec over everything. He died just this this year. He was in his 90s. want to say which was also amazing to me because it's not that he looked bad at 90 it's just that in 1976 he looked surprisingly close to 90 for him to have been 90 recently recently yeah I don't like like we went we've gone through this whole thing where we're we don't like the age gap relationship and it was almost like exaggerated it they exaggerated it they found the oldest looking

guy they possibly could find to be a love interest and he's supposed to be middle age he does not look middle age apparently he was roughly middle age did they have sunscreen back then yes but I think also it was you know, doctors smoked cigarettes in the labor and delivery room. There was a scene where there was a little placard on the table that said, please no smoking inside. Thank you for not smoking.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Like, that was a really wild ride of a movie. Yeah. I love to. And a surprising amount of go F yourself for 1976.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was wild. Yeah. Those were the scenes where I pictured now the gun comes out, right? It's like you got fired back to back two days in a row by your best friend. You're going to kill him now, right? Yeah. Didn't happen. I thought he was going to kill the girl after she took his job and he's like, actually, I think I'm in love with you. Why don't we go out to the beach and I thought he was going to glub her like a baby's tail. Because it's a mental drama. Yes. And she would have lived for it because that's great TV and she's a TV machine.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was really kind of open for that. Like, you don't think good conclusion to this was if he clubs are right now. He did not. No, no. I don't advocate for violence against women, but this woman was pretty bad. She said herself that most people thought of her as a man. Yeah, but no. No.

All right, all right. What a show. Mm-hmm. We do this thing. We judge movies on an ubrick scale, right? Mm-hmm. So it's kind of just your, whatever noise comes out of your mouth. It's not a thumbs up, it's not a thumbs down.

It's more of a, you know, primal scream into the void or a retching sound, that type of thing. So Amanda. For the three Emmys we got to see on screen. Oh, yeah, there were. Yeah. That's TV. It's supposed to be a TV network. Of course, going to see Emmys.

Yeah. All right. What's your Uber here? So I will give this a solid three out of five. You know, it was, it's, it is dated. No question about that. It is dated in a lot of the references. I mean, I mean, they reference Ford, of course, which would have been time appropriate and everything.

But the timelessness, I think, is. Just the fact that they still use this in media classes to this day. And a lot of... What's the lesson they're trying to teach with this movie? Media. Media. Money machine. That there's a lot of...

That's, no, this is more or less what happens in media. And it did predict a lot of the shits that we see today. It might be akin to showing business majors in their ethics courses the hot coffee documentary. Do they do that? Yes. Oh, okay. Yeah. That seems like too much ethics to teach a business major.

Well, it was pretty tongue-in-cheek. Hot coffee? No, no, no. The ethics class, Amy. Oh, yeah, that's right. Amanda was a business major. Yeah. Same here.

Yeah. Isn't it depressing? I did not, I didn't, I don't recall that lesson in my business at this classes, but then I saw this in a broadcasting class. So my genuine take on this movie was, I made this sound spontaneously a little bit ago, and I'm going to see if I can kind of reproduce it, but it was something like, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. I feel like that's accurate.

That is accurate to how you feel. Yeah. What a good podcast. Yeah. Well, I, you know, happy 200th episode. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much. I'm so glad that you had us here to participate.

Oh, absolutely. And likewise, thanks for having me on your podcast. Well, thanks for bringing the movie. Oh, yeah. How do you sign out of your podcast? What do you like to leave people with us? It depends on the episode, of course. I'll usually let the guests leave me out and everything.

Well, what we like to say is, remember, we're professionals. Do not try this at home. We watch these so you don't have to. Which one is it? Don't watch these at home. Oh, okay. So look at that. A perfect marriage.

You cut, drop it, and you get there. I'm not doing that. Oh, my God. It stays as it is. You heard it here. Thanks. All right, so to close this, well, long 200th episode, first of all, I do want to send a special thank you to everyone who's been on the podcast. I especially want to give a shout out to Chris, Amy, and Amanda for appearing in this very special episode.

And countless more who have been on the podcast, who have been co-hosts, who are part of the three-timers club, like Chris and now Amy. And I thought we'd close on a top five list. So these are my top five favorites clips from the entire podcast. And you have those skew early. But these are my favorites. So we'll do a countdown style. So we'll start number five, Brian Boy's first appearance on the podcast. Oh, thank you.

Thank you. I'm applauding myself. Thank you. Thank you. This pod, that is uncalled for, Michael. Already, not called for. Nobody called for that. Yeah.

Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. I'm glad you finally got me on as one of your more interesting friend. She was stacking towards the end of season two. All right. Well, we're in the start season three now, man. All right. Okay, all right.

Start season three with a bang. Boom. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. As long as I get more downloads and listens than Trevor Martin and Pat Lamb, combined, I'm good to go. And number four, we go to, well, my favorite episodes of all time, the Kronky Out episode and how that began.

And that was, of course, the first time I ever communicated with someone outside of the United States to do a podcast. So here is number four. My name is Curran. I study and work in Amsterdam. I am a long-time Arsenal fan. I've grew up in London and been a season ticket holder for as far as I can remember. I've been going to the games. Every time I'm home, I can try and catch the games. I try and watch the games whenever I'm out here, even in Holland. And you can tell, I'm an obsessive. I wear the colours. I go everywhere. I wear it proud, you know. Yeah, this has ruined my club. Yes, he has. And I feel like that is a sentiment shared by a lot of people over in America as well. Especially myself.

How his full name, Enis Stanley Cronky. Don't know if you knew that. Enis. Yeah. Oh, that's going to be great for the football chance. And number three, this is the first time I had Luke and Dan on the podcast. and I called I semi

hilariously call this our drinking episode because all three of us were drinking a little bit I only had the one beer but Luke and Dan kept panning away at the beers and they produced this my favorite clip

from that first time they came on. Dea Diego Maradon he's a character man's. It is pretty and I'm not just just talking about the whole hand of God thing that I reference there. No, this dude is interested.

Cocaine loving some bitch. If Argentina wins, I will run naked through the streets of Buenos Aires. No one wants to see that. Cocaine's a hell of a drug. Have you ever been out of the country? No, I'm sorry. No?

I've been to Mexico. You've been to Mexico? Mexico. I've been to Tijuana. What are we doing in Tijuana? It's probably something illegal. Some sketchy. shit. I'm just kidding.

I went on vacation, you know. And your parents took you to tea on. And number two, I always say that Conrado's episode is my favorites, and it is, but it's not the number one clip, but this clip is my favorite

from when I had Conrado on. So, here it is number two. Yeah, there's a, I think, yeah, I think it's a dog, bar, or, Oh, that they have... Yeah, it's called a bark. Yeah, some sort of a bar

bar for dog owners or something like that. That they made... And, yeah, you can't see it's coming that way, but it looked like. But to me, coming the other direction, it looks like it was built with shipping containers. Wow. Which is pretty cool.

Yeah. You can do a lot. things with those shipping containers. You can bring your dog? Yeah, yeah, if you have a dog, yeah, you can bring it. Get drunk? Yeah. Yeah, have fun with the dog and get wasted at the same time, yeah.

I like that idea. And the dog take you back from... And then number one, my favorite clip, my favorite quote, quote of the entire podcast, courtesy of Jamie Morrow. So I'm about genre. Do you have a particular genre that you like to act in or work in? Is paid a genre? No.

No? No, okay. The genre would be like a comedy. No, no, no, I know. I know. I know. I'm messing with you. Yeah.

And folks, that is going to do it for this incredible long. but still fulfilling 200th episode of this podcast is Uncalled for. Once again, thank you so much for your continued supports. During the course of making this episode, we hit 30,000 unique downloads. So I'd throw that in here at the end. And I want to actually keep continuing in to listen to the podcast. I'm still

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