This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Kerry Kott

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Kerry Kott joins us today to talk about nudity, its medicinal qualities, and offers advice on how to get started being naked. You can find out more about Kerry at her website, kerrykott.com.  While you're there, do check out her Naked Human podcast.

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Can't you see there's so much more laughs and tales you can't ignore A journey that will leave you floor In the night or in the day Just press play we're on our way voice a sharp opinion bright talking through the day and nine guessing hosts and perfect everybody welcome to the podcast i have a very special guest with me today carrie go ahead and introduce yourself please yeah my name my name is carrie cot and i'm a human being who loves being

naked connecting to the earth and diving beneath the surface of what our body is communicating to us. I like that a lot, so yeah. So for full disclosure for our audience, I also like being naked and obviously can't do it right now. I'm in a somewhat public place. I have I have an answer to rent today, unfortunately. So, but I saw your post.

Wanted to talk about this subject and talk about it. So let's talk about nudity and medicine and the healing process. And yeah. Yeah. I really like talking about this because there's like so many things that can be said. And I was just having a conversation yesterday. And what was really in my awareness that like being naked is a bird. that we all have, like we have these bodies. And there's so much shame about our bodies,

so much that like we're required to cover up our bodies. And because of what that exposes or what that triggers in others. And my journey with nudity wasn't something that I like went looking for it was something that showed up for me. And what was really impactful for me was was the first time that I was ever naked like in this like bigger social environment. It was a space of non-sexual nudity. Like there was no sex happening and nobody was asking to have sex with me and I was able to be naked. And it really impacted me so much at the time I didn't have words or like, oh, this is what's happening. It was I remember leaving that experience and being like, I want more of that.

Like, I want to, like, I didn't even have like, like, oh, I want to be naked more. It was just like, what happened there? Like, I want more of that. Yeah, that's exactly what's going to a newness, nature's group is exactly like you come. There's no sexual activity going on, but everyone's naked. Everyone's having a good time. And all that. So I totally get it as well.

And I've been doing it close to 20 years now. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think for me, I was probably like five or six years ago that I started like getting naked and being naked and exploring being naked outside. I spent a lot of time exploring with myself being outside and feeling safe that way, but then intentionally going to.

like nudist beaches and swimming oh my gosh like the experience of swimming naked is like why do we ever not do that naked exactly yeah and um like you said like that's how it was for you like there was just there's something really liberating about it and i have it that like are the clothes that we wear like how many of us are actually choosing to wear clothes and And like actually at real choice of like, I am intentionally choosing to wear clothes today. It's just something that we're doing because at some age in our life, we were told to start covering up. And usually that happens around, you know, when we start getting a little bit older and our body starts to change. And then there becomes this sexualizing of our bodies, right?

Because like when we're little kids and there's a little kid running around naked at the beach, like nobody's batting an eye nobody's concerned about that and then when our body start to change and hormones shift and we you know start to grow then it's like oh you you know that's not appropriate anymore and it's such that collapse of like sex and nudity are the same thing I agree and unfortunately I think culture and religion play a big part in that as well, especially certain sense of Christianity, I feel. Certainly Mormonism, they actually have their temple rights, after which you're expected to wear underwear for the rest of your life.

I never went through that myself, but that's a scary preposition that I'm defines to these particular sets of clothes to the day I die. Yeah, that sounds pretty rough to me. Like the act of like you are required to be this. I mean, in any context. And like I'm over here thinking like underwear, no fund to wear. Like that feels constricting. And like this.

ordinance to dictate who you're supposed to be and what you're supposed to wear and not where even there's not that space for you to choose for yourself right right um so uh so yeah touch on how you how you feel nudity is a medicinal thing i think we touch on a few things like the freeing sensation and liberation and uh i'm sure there are other uh healthful aspects to it that we haven't touched on. Yeah, well, something that's right there for me about that is, so I've had experience of sexual trauma, sexual trespass. And what was happening for me in my own personal journey of being naked and, you know,

just like unclothing myself and then going into these other environments, what was happening for me is it became really healing for like, this feeling of safety in my body. And so like, especially with the collapse of our naked bodies being associated with sexuality and this this real experience that if I expose like my breast or my pussy and like that brings in this invitation, like it's a sexual invitation. And having had experience of sexual trespass, there's like this, you know,

feeling in my body of like I'm not safe. I need to like protect myself. So unraveling and decloathing became really medicinal, became healing in reclaiming that space within my body and feeling safe. And I can't quite describe like the whole process of how that was happening. It was just something that was occurring of like here I am exposing my body. And I'm first did it with myself, you know, so like it was for me with myself. And so I was unveiling and exposing myself in this way. And then as I started to intentionally go into these other environments and social environments and like, whoa, okay, like I really am like safe here. Like it really is okay for me to be naked. And because one of the things that kept popping up for me

was like, well, if I go here, like, am I going to be naked? Is somebody going to like proposition me for sex? And so like actually like going into those environments. And then with the healing work that I do now with women and having intentional spaces to be naked, that's just like another layer of healing there. But like creating that environment for other women to come in so that this experience of like feeling violated. So whether we've actually had like a physical trespass or not, I've had women come and say, this is the first time I've ever been naked where I wasn't having sex. And so like that's a big deal to show up into a space and like, whoa, okay, I'm naked. And so they can actually connect to their body. And as I see it,

it's, it's so healing for like feeling safe. And obviously I'm speaking to the conversation of many women and like that's something that women always have going on like how safe are we like just it's a biological thing. So even to have that. So I find that it's really healing in that way and even like layers of like people pleasing and like helping like come into their bodies of like, okay, this is my body and what am I feeling and so it helps us drop deeper into like listening and feeling like what's happening in here.

Good deal. And I think you answered a question I was going to ask and how do we get more women into the nature as a nudist community? I think you just answered that. Got him a safe place to be outside of, let's be honest. Most nudist groups are male dominated. and unless they put in quotas and stuff. So, yeah, there's got to be ways to get more women,

especially into that mindset. And I think giving those space, safe space to do so, it's probably the best way to go. Yeah, and talking about it, right? And also having women talking about it. And I like to bring in conversation outside of using the words nudist or naturist. And a part of that is to help like, I remember when I first like heard the word nudist, I collapsed it with swinging.

I was like I had my brain had this thought that all nudists were swingers. And so like I have this awareness that like when we hear certain words like certain things get triggered, right? Like a nudist is for many people like this really unfamiliar space. So I also like to just talk about like being naked and inviting people, women in into that space. And yeah, having spaces that we can come together. And there's a lot of women, you know, providing these spaces. And some aren't necessarily like how I'm doing it where it's we are coming for nudity,

but they are providing that space. But I think having more women voices, sharing and inviting women. into ways that they can experience being naked. So like, you know, I have conversations with women about ways that they can just start exploring being naked in their home, you know, and talk about like, how can you do that in a way that feels good or do you have some privacy in your backyard and, you know, like, what about when you get out of the shower just like being naked a little bit longer and sleeping naked?

So just like inviting in these spaces that it can start to explore that. does feel safe. And again, like that whole safety conversation is so important for women of and like inviting in spaces where there's other women that are there, inviting those women to come in and like, hey, you're not alone. Come in and explore this together or like going to the beach together in that and like going in a group or you can like feel safer. That's true. And you brought up another great point. If you're going to explore nudity, start at the home, that sleeping naked is a good way to start. In fact, there are studies now that suggest that sleeping naked is better for overall health.

I would agree. I mean, I feel better when I sleep naked. I mean, I think about that as it relates to being in the water swimming naked. And, you know, like our whole body is our skin, right? And so in Chinese medicine that's connected to the lungs and like it's like our whole body breathing. And when we're naked, we get to like drink in and breathe our whole environment. And specifically like when I'm outside, like it's like being tapped in to the whole planet, to the whole earth to all of nature. And so there's something that's really settling about that.

and when we put clothes on or shoes on we create barriers for that communication of our body with our environment so in a way it's kind of i i think it's kind of like we are like listening in all the directions really cool real cool yeah that also brings me to the spiritual aspect of nudity i do think uh there is a special side to it i think uh We look at the Bible, Book of Genesis, Adam and Eve were created naked, and then they committed the sin. Well, their sin was they listened to the devil and disobeyed God and became ashamed of their disobedience more so than actually being naked. but a lot of people interpreted that they just became ashamed of their bodies and uh yeah god created us naked if you believe in that that's an aspect of god and the nature created us

naked so why not they honor that I think so yeah I mean I would agree and like even in that story is this reflection of like we did something wrong and bad and therefore now we have to be clothed and I feel like there's such the energy of clothes carry for us like there's just this shame cloak that we're like walking around with versus like oh I'm intentionally wearing some clothes because it's cold or because it's windy or because I'm covering I've been out in the sun all day and you know like for like purposeful protection and yeah we were born naked and so like like I said at the beginning like this is a birthright that we have like our naked bodies like they belong to us this is like how we come into the world and all the

animals are walking around naked all the plants are quote unquote you know naked they're just like in their um their structures right exactly so exactly um So, yeah, starting the home, and if you win and if you feel comfortable, yeah, just to approach any group that practices social nudity in a non-sexual context and also finding the right place to do this, whether it be a club or elsewhere. That can be challenging as well. like, I'll use my area, for example. So I belong to a nature's group, the heartland nature is of Kansas City. And within about an hour of us is a spiritual retreats called the Gaia Retreat Center or Camp Gaia, we call it locally. Technically not nudists per se, but almost everyone there is naked.

And it's a little rustic place near Leavenworth that just come in and enjoy nature and almost everyone I've ever seen there is naked at some point. Yeah, and what also is coming up for me, too, is there's a beach in Florida that I've been to, which is an amazing naked beach. like you can be naked there it's called Blind Creek and they have ambassadors of the beach and so like it's really important to like connect to someone like reach out to someone who's in that community before you go and ask all the questions you want to ask and also share like hey I feel nervous about coming if it's like your first time or even if it's not your first time sometimes I get nervous just in new environments in general. And so, you know, like there's, and I didn't know there were ambassadors at that beach

until I was just walking around and was like connecting with people. And then I was like, oh my gosh, this is a really great resource. So when I went back, I would go hang out close to the ambassadors. So I'd like find my little spot close to there. And so like, yeah, asking question is so important. And when I've gone into a new community, I'm like asking whatever questions that I need to ask just to help so that I can, you know, feel at peace. And so just giving yourself that permission and people are really supportive and generous. And that's what they're there for, right?

Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a Hallover Beach started this one idea of a new beach ambassadors. So I'm glad to. Yeah. So I'm glad to see that concept. gone over to Blind Creek and hopefully other new beach groups starts doing similar stuff. Yeah. All right.

So is there anything we haven't touched upon that you feel and need to include or? I think this has been really great to just connect with like ways to explore and connecting and talking about the medicine and what's available. And I think maybe just touching on like there's a lot of health benefits emotionally and physically to being naked and being naked outside and being socially naked. Like, I mean, there's just something that's going on much deeper than like, hey, I'm just being naked. Like your whole body's coming online.

There's aspects of feeling settled. and safe and community with people and there's an aspect of like here I am that's that can be really confronting but also very liberating of like hey oh like you can see me there's some aspect of being seen in a whole different way that and what I keep hearing is just like like settles our nervous system and that's a really big deal I agree I agree all right so So we're going to close. Go ahead and give us some contact info, if someone wants to reach out and check your stuff out,

yeah, for sure. I would say that my website is the best way to contact me. It's my name, K-E-R-R-Y, K-O-T-T-com. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, all those places. You can find me through my website, but you can also, I like to say that because sometimes I've had an account deleted. So if I give you the handle right now, it's nature always nude on Instagram. But sometimes things get deleted.

But my website is structurally sound. And I'll go on plug your podcast. The Naked Human podcast. Oh, yes. I have a podcast, the Naked Human. which I do highly recommend that it is geared more towards women and I do I do appreciate and I have listened to a couple of episodes myself and it is really good so I do highly recommend it and I'm starting to welcome some more voices on my podcast so while it is geared there is a conversation geared towards women I I plan to start inviting more people on to talk

about their personal experiences with being naked. All right. Well, Carrie, thanks for coming on the podcast today. And I look forward to seeing some more cool stuff from Ben. Thank you. This podcast is Uncalled for is hosted, produced and edited by myself, Mike Chernevsky. Our opening music is the, this podcast is Uncalled for Theme, which is created at suno.com, s uno.com. Our outro music for this episode is First Beach by Zhang Hua.

is licensed under Creative Commons by Attribution 4.0 International License You can find this song at freemusicarchive.org And thanks again to Gary for appearing on the podcast and a bit of a challenge for you all listening at home.

Take some time after listening to this podcast and just get naked. even in the privacy or home, just give it a try and see for yourself if you like it. Take care, everybody, and we'll talk soon. cafepress.com slash uncalled for pod. Thank you so much for listening. We will see you next time. Thank you.