This Podcast Is... Uncalled For - Kyle Ament

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

Today's guest is Kyle Ament, a local Kansas City actor with film credits in local productions, mostly horror and mostly authority figures including cops and the Pope.

Hi, I'm Mike Chernivsky, and your listen to this podcast is Un Called For. Hi, everybody, welcome to the podcast. Got a guest here today, go out and introduce yourself, please. Yeah, hi, I'm Kyle Amet. Good to meet you, Kyle. And where she sends me your resume, you are an actor locally. Yeah, yeah, I'm a local Kansas City actor. Been in probably close to 50 different projects, including over 20 feature films.

I've been in a few series. I've had lead roles, supporting roles, and background roles. Cool. Now, look at your resume and those that you had acted in the, is it Promise Chronicles of Memphis? Yeah, yeah. The Promise Chronicles Manifestation. Yeah, the Promise Chronicles. manifestation, I

was the Pope in that. You're the Pope. I was the Pope in that. I really just had one main scene in that I would say like Holsom Grove was the biggest project. Most

lines I've ever had, I had probably over 330 lines. It won the best heartland feature at the Kansas City Film Festival. It's one at other film festivals um it's out now it's on uh on amazon prime and tubi and then it's like a bunch of roku channels and that sort of thing that's like that's my my biggest uh project that i've

been lead before but never so dialogue heavy because like a lot of times if you're like elite character it's spread out over you know half a dozen people uh this was mainly four and i was the main one So it was like, it was a lot of work. Good deal. A lot of work. Yeah, I first heard about that project from a friend of the podcast, Rick Daniels. Oh, yeah, yeah. Rick Daniels is my buddy.

Rick Daniels is my buddy. So, yeah, I know he's been on this podcast and several others. He is, he's absolutely hilarious. He is. He's a good actor. Yeah, he's one of the people that we get excited when we see each. other I get a picture with him every time so I have so many pictures with him and I'll tell you like the the interesting fact at least to to Rick and I we've been in 11

projects together which is more than I've been in with anybody else and he said the same so it seemed like if you want to cast Dan I'm sorry Rick Daniels it's real name's Dan fact you want to count cast Rick Daniels you probably should look at me and vice versa and I'm guilty of calling them my Dan, too. Yeah, that's okay. That's good. For our audience,

Rick Daniels is a stage name. It's a performance name. Yeah. And we were talking just before I started recording, you've worked with other friends of the podcast too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would say Omega Edwards. Omega and I were in Best Day of Your Life, along with Benzino, and Alan Michael Doherty. Aaron Doherty was the director, and he is, he tops my

list, one of the most competent best directors in Kansas City. I'm supposed to be in a short film with him this fall with Aaron and then a feature in about a year. And he's one who, if he ever asked me to do something, I'll say yes. Just like Eric Willis, Holsom Grove. I mean, his next feature that he's doing Southern Fried Romance. I've already filmed my part. I'm far from the lead in that. You know, I think I've got four scenes total and they're already filmed.

Yeah. Good deal. Good deal. Good deal. So Eric Willis, I kind of know him. Yeah, you should have him on. You should have him on.

He's a great guy. Great guy. All right. So, invites to Eric Willis, you know, feel free to contact me and we'll get your on.

Who are some of the other filmmakers if don't mind me asking? Yeah. I would say, Probably the next, Robbie Lopez. I've heard the name. Yeah, River Beauty, there were, I was one, they had like three kind of that were main characters.

I was one of the three main characters of River Beauty. And we actually filmed it, most of it, well, I shouldn't say most of it. Lig of the Ozarks and Kansas City, Grandview, you know. What we're saying right now, Grandview? Yeah, yeah, we're in Grandview right now. Not because I live here, but because he, the hardware store and there's a Mexico restaurant, and we filmed in those two locations here in town.

I'd say probably more of it was filmed in Lake of the Ozarks. He brought in Michael Mattson, who's from Los Angeles via Sweden, and he brought him in. And then Tiffany Michelle, who's fantastic local actress. she's done a lot of stuff she was the other person that was in it like of the three mains but there were more than that there were a lot of great people

great people in that and I've been in with Robbie Lopez cult of blood which is just now coming out I was in that with him in a supporting role along with Michael Mattson again

who came in from Los Angeles. Thomas Smith also was in that. We were, you know, the kind of, sometimes the films have an A team and a B team. That's Robbie's terms, not mine. We're the A team. I, as a filmmaker myself, I totally get it. So, A team, that's your main.

Your main folks. And then your B team, like the secondary stuff, you know, the main folks that the actors that don't need to be with the team. Excellent. Beauty I was on the A team yeah pulled the blood I was on the B team so we were in there we were important Michael Madsen and I were police officers and we were hanging out in the car we're both kind of incompetent he had on a fat suit

which to me was really funny and you know the A team was a group Dan from New York he came in I think was the last name I've lost it I want to say Dan Gregory He came in and they brought in Felissa Rose and Dave Sheridan as well. They're both. Felissa Rose is Sleepaway Camp was the main key person in that. And Dave Sheridan was doofy and scary movie, if you remember that. And but he brought in some other people that like Thomas Smith and myself and Michael Mattson were like the other three characters where we had kind of side stories and we interact with the main characters and all that.

So in several scenes with that as well. Good deal. So I guess we do a lot of cops. Obviously, the Pope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So a lot of authority figures. Yeah, yeah. Like a judge or a policeman, Dead Legion series, there's 15 episodes.

I'm in nine of those as a sheriff after like the zombie apocalypse comes down. It's Nathan Pinyon, Sidney Pinyon. They're the ones who did that in St. Joe, but they also did it all around. We were in Kansas, Kansas City, Kansas at the drive-in. We were in, I want to say, Tanganoxi, Kansas, St. Joe, and then, like, all around St. Joe. Like, there's some big park south of St. Joe. I never even knew existed. And, like, I've learned actually a lot of places exist.

Yeah. You know, when you do filming, you go to unique places. I would say probably the, like, most beautiful settings that I've been to, Maxibillion Studios, which, like, they have, they do films for cell phones. So they film vertically, but I mean, they're like Netflix-approved cameras, like nice cameras, not, you know, they're not using cell phones, but they're made for cell phones. And they filmed Nikita. I did that there. And then, And they also, they did these 10 shorts that they're going to make into movies potentially.

And I was in three of those. And they filmed, there was a mansion in Platt City. Has a, what do you call it, an airstrip right out in front. It's this huge, beautiful mansion two stories high. Like the kitchen's just big oak walls, but you open them up and the refrigerators and different things. like just wall it's like tremendous and then they filmed at a place in independence called it was a Airbnb the Elvis mansion and because they needed an indoor pool right and they have an indoor pool shaped like a guitar and it's painted on the bottom like a guitar so it's like

these multi-million dollar mansions which I guess I've been to three of them with that group doing the filming and and they bring in they brought in someone from Los Angeles and somebody from Texas and somebody from Ohio and then I was on the B team and that one too those three were the A team

and then a lady from Kansas City was in there. Lauren Smith she also from the area she was like those were the four main people I was a kind of a werewolf I never really transformed

But I was a, I had teeth and red, yeah, red contacts and teeth. And Lauren Smith played my daughter in there. And we were the two most evil of the people there. And we were kind of like planning, like to sabotage people and things. But I got killed, so. Yeah, there is. You know, I did not go to it.

I just saw the pictures. But actually, if you type in Elvis Mansion or Elvis, you know, whatever it is, VRBO, you can see pictures because that's what I did. And then I saw pictures of the scene because somebody gets pushed in the water. They had to have somebody get pushed in the water. So they had to find a place with a pool. And they found this beautiful mansion and independence. I didn't go to that one, but I have been to a couple of the others.

I went to the one in Platt City, which was very impressive. I've spent a lot of time in Platt City lately for my Oh yeah, yeah For our day job Because I teach chess and Oh yeah Yeah, I did a lot of work with the Platt County School District Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

I'm sure it's Platt County School District But it's not in the city limits It's, I don't know how many acres, 100 acres or something It's, yeah, that school district goes all the way To the Clay County line Oh yeah, yeah, it's huge I'm sure Yeah, it's huge, yeah

And only four other schools what is it four elementary schools oh yeah yeah so yeah I'm guessing a lot of these

films are also horror yeah I've done I've done some horror now like the river

beauty it's horror Nikita of the New Moon or Nikita three times rejected mate

that was cult of blood that's coming out it was as well and I'm actually I'm done filming my part but they're still

filming you know Todd Cheats I do yeah Todd Cheats his big thing was Bone Hill Road and there's another clown NATO he's filming a movie but I can't tell you the title

but I'm the monster so I get to be really mean really really mean in it before I transform into the monster you know you can take those roles you could be like I don't want to turn into a monster and hurt you

but I'm going to have to or I did the approach, I want to turn into a monster, so I'm going to get you. That was more my approach. Right. Right. So any other genres that you work in either than the horror? Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, like Wholesome Grove was, you know, a very wholesome movie. I play a businessman.

And there's a dying girl. It's Ashland Ford. that they're all local people and her mother, Ashley Moreland. And I have Jeremy Walter is my attorney, my assistant, so I get to be mean and they're in the whole time.

And basically I'm like really mean and angry the whole time. Not as much, I'd like to be a little more. But, you know, but I held back. But no, so I, for the role, it was good for the role. So I did that. and then I have a change of heart because Ashland Ford is the girl who's dying and she

kind of makes it where I have a change of heart you know like someone reached inside my soul and flipped on a switch I think I say that in the movie it's it has like a slight Christian feel to it like not not like heavy heavy but it does it definitely has a faith aspect to it. And I really enjoyed it. It was a good part for me and everybody seemed to be cast well. I thought like when you watch like the three people I named and myself, I think are, I mean, there's always things you can do better, but I feel like it was really good performance. And Anthony Graham is the cinematographer, camera operator, etc. And he makes everybody look good he checks on like all the detail um he's somebody's real detail oriented i think like

really a quality guy in fact when they do those 48 hour film festivals people probably fight over him he's one that everybody wants on their team um he's that kind of guy so i've not done the 48 hour i've done the one-night stands the tad yeah yeah it's the same kind of stuff yeah that's probably so yeah should i explain to anyone who's listening to have done know what we're talking about. Sure, sure. They give you 48 hours to make a film. With the one-night stand, it's 10 hours to make a film, and they give you certain elements that you have to put in your film, and all those elements have to be, they have to find a way to work them into the film and everything. So with the one-night stand in particular, it's a line of dialogue,

usually from a famous movie, and objects of some sorts, and... And, yeah, they used to do theme or something, but they could have changed it. It's been a while since I've done. Yeah, I've never done one, but I went and saw. They had something where they showed them. Yeah, they showed them that night. Yeah, I went and saw, I saw one of them,

I think it was Gordon Lamb that wanted his team. But yeah, it was really, really good. He got, you know, he got all the, like, got good actors, he got people they can edit, He, like, directed it. Like, I mean, they did an outstanding job. It was probably the 10-hour one, not the 48. Yeah, One Night Sins is 10-hour.

Yeah, it was that deal. So one One-Night Sin that comes to mind for me was, it was called Unfiltered. It was Pat Lamb. Yeah. Yeah. It ran along, and we didn't finish adding on time, but we still got show. Yeah. And then afterwards, it didn't.

eight different edits because I believe in our first draft got banned in Germany and Japan yeah because of the music I had used in wow yeah that's interesting so yeah be careful what music you use for these things

yeah I was going to tell also I was in a TNT Jackson with Todd Cheats as well I played a crooked city councilman who got arrested and stuff so it was kind of fun and it's the very beginning of it

so like if you're watching it just to watch my character you watch the first 10 minutes and you can watch me commit a crime, watch me get arrested all in the first few minutes and then another series I was in I was in four episodes

Agony and Ecstasy with Vicki McGill she's like a super nice lady Actually, I really loved to work with her. But I was in four of those episodes, and that's like a crime thing. I'm actually like a normal person in that one. So I got to play, I was telling people before, like I want to play like a regular person 10 to 25% of the time.

I want to be the bad guy, 75% to 90%, which is what I'm doing, which is pretty much what I'm doing. It's pretty much what I'm doing. So I get to play the bad guy. That one I play a regular person. I'm a doctor. You know, I tell people that we couldn't save them and, you know, whatever, things like that. I tell people diagnosis and results from DNA tests and, you know, all sorts of things like that. But I actually think it's a pretty good series.

Someone trying to be musician, there's criminals, there's, like, you get a stance to see. Marcus McIntosh is in that. And he's another one, you know, kind of like Rick Daniels, that we kind of are in things together and stuff a lot. So there's several of them. Thomas Smith, yeah, several people that I see the same people a lot of times here in Kansas City. Yeah. Other names I'm usually associated with include Brian Boy and the late day Barry. Yeah.

Actually, don't know either, though. So. Well, Brian, fortunately, is still with us and just did fringe with me. Oh, okay. Very cool. I did the podcast at Casey Fringe this past year. So Brian did, he was his third time on the podcast. And Dave, unfortunately, died in 2018.

Okay. Actually, I think I've heard his name because they do a dedication to him. Yeah, every year. So, yeah. After you said that, I recognized his name. Yeah, he was a great guy and great guy to work with. Yeah. And I did a lot of one nightstands with the two of them.

Oh, there's one more one nightstand I need to break up. It's called Mike from Orlando. Oh, wow. Yeah. The premise is, because I watch a lot of political news, specifically MSNBC, and even more specifically Keith Oberman. Yeah. And got hooked up with the whole Oberman versus O'Reilly thing.

and it's based around a phone call that this guy named Mike from Orlando made into O'Reilly's show, said, well, hey, I listen to the show, but I think Keith Homer got cut off. Yeah, he's a gone guy. So we have your phone number.

We're going to turn over, Fox Security, and we'll be getting a little visit. Wow. And this short film was basically dramatization of what happened to this guy. So he's... so after he makes the phone he writes a love letter

that was the item saying I gotta go into exile which was the theme I got to go in exile and then knock on the door it's Fox Security who beats him to death

with a lufa wow with a lufa wow yeah I tell you people are so creative and his last words were I could have been somebody I could have been contender and the

Lufo was very specific to the O'Reilly thing was a little bit of a history lesson for people Bill O'Reilly was sued for sexually harassing one of his female producers and in said lawsuits

she had tapes of him on talking dirty on the phone and included a shower sex scenario where the lufa mitt

eventually evolves to the falafel thing wow yeah and just an insult to entry I didn't have a falafels on the day but we didn't have pita bread so just

threw a piece of a pita bread on the corpse wow wow people are creative I have to tell you like I writers I always in my people that can write

like probably actually just about every director that we've brought up I never said Hunter Johnson's name but he's the one with Maxie Billion Studios he's with it's L.A.horror.com

he's from Wisconsin, lived in Los Angeles for like 10 years but we found a woman in Kansas City to recruit him for here so now he's here goes back and forth he's fantastic director and he's done so many movies.

I watched a movie he was in called Porcelain, which was filmed in Philadelphia, and he was one of the main actors in it, probably like the one of the top two characters. And it's so funny because I didn't realize he was such a good actor because I've just seen him as a director. Right. He can do it all. The most recent film I did any work for was. there's one that Jessica Whitfield

front of the podcast Yeah, yeah, I know Jessica Yeah, she's great She wrote this film called Prepper Yes, I know that I know exactly Megan Hitchcock Smith

And all that She asked me to do the voice Of a podcaster Oh So I got to record it And she's another one Like I really She actually attended

The episode With Brian at Fringe Wow, yeah She's like very impressive to me just the fact she can do so much she can write act and making a living doing this stuff you know and so like really doing I think exceptionally well like the writing is is beautiful that she does so I'm I've always been impressed with her like certain people that I feel like wow that's impressive

and she's one and prepper was something she brought up on the podcast too soon Oh, wow. So, yeah, that was, thanks, Jessica, for that opportunity. Yeah, yeah, we were in, trying to remember how to pronounce it, S-Y-R-O-E-C-R-O-E-C-R-D is what it's from, C-R-R-R-O, C-R-R-O,

and, yeah, and that was Keenan-C-C-E-C-E-C-E-C-E-C-V-E-G-E-E-C-ROT this and it's basically like there's Rachel Kloicki, Thomas Smith, Aaron Lewis, Jessica Whitfield, myself, whatever. I play a weird gardener. So in this one, I'm like in the background of a lot of scenes. I have some lines too, but like a lot of it, I'm in the scenes just because I'm a weird gardener

wearing a blue suit, watching everybody. and all this. It's actually, it is one of the most cleverly written things, and Nick and Keenan wrote it, like where it is, like, one of the most unique stories that I've seen. And so I really enjoyed,

like people are kind of lost. They're all lost in the same place. I'm kind of the person that knows what's going on, but nobody else does. So it's kind of interesting. It's an interesting little story. It's going through, like, the festival. circuit right now.

So hopefully that's going to come out. And Tanner Smith, I've only done one movie with Tanner Smith. I've heard of him. Yeah, yeah, I was view like, someone said, and I agreed with it, so I've repeated it. Tanner Smith and Eric Willis keep the local films. They both are like prolific writers and filmmakers, both them. They're both great. They both just write and just direct and just make things.

And feature films, like not the short films, none of the short films. But honestly, I like feature films. You'll sit down and watch a feature film, at least a lot of people will, before they'll sit down and watch a eight-minute film. They'll watch an hour, an hour and a half. I went into filmmaking with that mindset too,

and yeah, that goes too well for me, but to each his own, so I can really say I've tried it. Well, probably best to do a few, like if you're an actor, you're a writer, your director, anything. Do a few short films first. Get all that experience before you try the big project. Yeah. Words of the wise.

Yeah. And from experience, yes. Yes, yes, sir. Yeah. Patrick Poe is another guy that another friend of the podcast said. Yeah, he's a great guy too. He's done some features. Yeah, yeah.

I've met him. I've never worked with him. But I've met him before. I think he's a very, a very nice person. I'd love to do something with him someday. But not yet. Hasn't worked out. How about Sam Toddy?

That's another. That's another one that I haven't worked with, but I would like to. And I'll tell you, it's so funny. I've worked with Sam at Jukov. Yeah, oh, okay. Yeah, I actually, I counted up, and I don't remember the number, but I've worked with maybe 25 different directors in Kansas City. So it's, and this just like,

six and a half years here in Kansas City. I was one year in Texas where I first started doing this. Where in Texas? I lived in Irving. Oh, just outside of Dallas. Yeah, yeah, so around the former home of Texas Stadium. Yeah, yeah, actually I lived in the area that when they tore it down it became the Los Kalinas area of Irving. I lived in Las Kalinas. So real close to where the stadium was, maybe even right there. My mother was raised in Beaumonts and oh okay, by the Louisiana, yeah. Yeah, and a lot of my, a lot of that side of the family

lives in the Houston area now. Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. Beaumont's probably closer to Houston than Dallas. Oh, yeah. I like to, I actually like living in Dallas. I like to. It's basically, it's always, I'm stating it as a fact,

but 12 or 13 degrees warmer than Kansas City. So if it's 22 here, and it's like, boy, it's really cold this morning, it's 35 there. if it's 95 here like oh my goodness well there it's 106 you know there was 12 or 13 degrees you know give or take 10 degrees warmer and it's summer winter always and the summers are horrific it was 109 degrees in Dallas when I was there and just the batteries in your car wear out fast if you park outside and stuff they would replace car battery that shouldn't have been

replaced and they said oh where are you parking it and it's like well it was outside so uh yeah i'm currently experiencing some uh car difficulties right now yeah and it's ironically parking in hot weather inside might have triggered it so wow at the uh crown center garage so wow did you just move uh no i've lived in kansas city my whole life oh okay okay i thought i saw something about you moving but maybe it was someone else so yeah so you uh not and It might be work related because we're moving offices. Oh, okay, okay. That's probably what is.

But now, I've been in the KC area in my whole life. Yeah, mom, of course, originally from Beaumont and dad from Pittsburgh. Wow, it was an unusual place to end. They met at Lamar University in Beaumont. Wow, yeah, no, I have two daughters. one, they're both married. One lives in Ovalon Park. My other daughter lives in Springfield.

Yeah, I'm in Ovalent Park. Yeah, yeah. North Ovalon Park, in my case, I'm very near downtown. Okay. Downtown Ovalon Park is beautiful. I love that area. I love the little farmer's market stuff. Yeah, I can walk there.

Yeah, you're living my life. You're living my life. Yeah, it's been, yeah, about a mile. east of my house so wow that's really cool yeah so cool what did before you got in that acting if you don't mind oh no I well I've had different jobs like their mental health related jobs probably like I used to work Department of Corrections mental health I worked in investigations for Department of Mental Health, assistant director and for a while and consultant for a while.

Hospital mental health programs had programs just all around like Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri. They used to travel a lot. Cool. Always seem to travel for work. My job now, I work for a company. we teach de-escalation. So I travel the U.S. and Canada probably over 30 weeks a year.

Cool. I go out. I go to Rhode Island and West Virginia, the next two states. Texas, too, supposedly. But it might cancel it. It might cancel it. Good deal. Yeah, I've had a lot of jobs over my life too.

So clean floors. I've worked as a security officer. Yeah. Works at a warehouse for a while. There's a TV intern. Wow. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. DoorDash and teaching chess.

Wow. DoorDash actually got as a side effect of doing this podcast. Yeah. This is an episode with two of my buddies who I've worked in the warehouse with. And one of them said, you should go and do DoorDash. And I'm glad I did. I have co-workers because we work where we're gone. off the full week but we're going a lot during the week and then we have time off like i'm off

this week for instance cool and uh during the week's off some people do door dash some people i mean they they do all sorts of stuff i'm trying to think all i can think of is uh tutoring and door dash but there's like there's several of them do different things uh one of them translates documents to another language like this different different things and i i do acting if it can work out on my schedule where I'm already off or if I can switch around and get and get off that week if there's stuff during the week I can get off and and do it and I've done that multiple times so by the by the way just if I ever do cast you for what my projects I do like to that well in that foreign languages from time to tell oh do you

yeah so tales from the intern that that's the project that's Rick and Omega worked on, uh, they didn't have to learn a, uh, alien languages, but I did have an alien language, uh, made up for them. I also had the lines in, uh, Japanese. Wow. Wow. Very cool. And some rides in, uh, Russian, even though I don't speak a lick of Russian. Yeah. But you, you had it. That's really cool. Uh, yeah. But, uh, there's a great, uh, Russian community here in Kansas City. Yeah. And they were more than, they've been more than helpful. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. Omega. Omega.

is he's one of my favorite people as well and he's he's really going around making things happen I hope he gets lots of success his music acting he got to be in one of the gardens of the galaxies the second one nice yeah he was in that I think he was in it very quickly he got killed by the raccoon he got killed by the raccoon but they like showed his character yeah I mean he was not in there long but you can see him, boom, gets killed. So. I'm not to check that movie yet. Yeah, but it's still funny.

Yeah, he's got like a big, they put this big hair on him, and he's already, like this, he's a big gladiared looking guy already. Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah, he's my height with, you know, 50 pounds more muscle, and then they put that outfit on him

and he just looks really intimidating, so, which is why it's funny, because then he has this little foot and a half raccoon shooting this big, scary monster. And also a good time to remind you. people my sister is Polish not Russian oh okay yeah yeah yeah because a lot of people say my name is that Russian like no Polish it is it is Slavic but it's not do you speak any Polish then no no that would be the one to learn you got people

maybe they could help you a bit Polish is too difficult yeah well I think Polish probably similar to Russian as far as I think it would all be hard to learn Russian and frankly the serralic alphabet's the easy part my dad actually speaks Russian he took it in college he's he's 83 so back then when he was in college like a lot of people like Russian learning Russian was a thing right and so he learned it so he could teach it like in high school he planned on teaching Russian but he never did he never did but he still likes everyone's all saying things in Russian he gets excited when you hear his Russian words.

Yeah. So for me, my language learning was Spanish in high school. Mm-hmm. And very useful language. Yeah, that would be the one

to learn. Yeah. Especially if you have to work in restaurants. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And Japanese I learned in college.

Oh, very cool. Because I'm a martial artist. And, uh... What martial art did you? Karate. Oh, okay. What style of karate? I've started with Kempo and then I learned a Jushita Khan.

Oh, very cool. Yeah. Very cool. And it was for college karate that ultimately didn't take those courses, but that's what spirit of my interest in learning Japanese. And I'm glad I did because that is a fun language. Yeah. I mentioned karate.

It's the same. Kara is in a word I can. insistently hear mispronounced by English speakers. Sure, sure. Karaoke. Oh, very interesting. I'm actually a master of Hopkito, which is Korean art,

Korean like bodyguard training, basically. More than that, but that's the main thing. That's what I claim. The Blue Belt and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, some other credentials. Nice. But I'm also, now I'm arthritic, orthoridic shoulders and back so yeah so I'm I probably can't do much now

yeah we can all still do the disarm type of stuff and all that so do yeah some stuff but basic stuff yeah but yeah the the no that's yeah age plus old football injuries yeah yeah well your your body yeah so someone says it's not the age of the car it's the miles on the tires or something that's like i get i get it all right well i think that's going to wrap it up here so thanks cow for coming on yeah yeah great skin to know you and uh yeah we will talk to you all uh again very soon all right thank you sir i appreciate you uh having me on This podcast is Uncalled for. It's hosted, produced, and edited by myself, Mike Chernevsky.

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