Threedom - Pour Some Concrete Over The Stump

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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The David Matthews band? Those shit dumpers? Yeah. Those notorious shit dumpers. You know, I'll throw on some DMB while I'm driving. I go, you know, this is just, this just hits the spot. Yeah. It just hits the spot.

You can just visualize them tossing shit over a bridge while they sing these songs. It's what I see when I close my eyes. By the way, you've been closing your eyes a lot. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. I love seeing them throw that shit over that bridge. Your eyes are so wet, too. My eyes are so, I think my eyes are kind of dry.

Are they really? Yeah. You know what? I have, I tend to have dry eyes. Dry eyes. And there's this product that makes to her. Jennifer Ernestine. Right.

She was the driest woman. She was like. Low shit water and dry eyes. You have to assume that other parts of her body are dry. No, but they're all not dry anymore. She's got all the products. Oh, okay. According to that one.

Can I just say. Allegedly. That one deposition. There are these eyedrops that take away the redness in your eyes and make them really white and people use them on set a lot. Yeah. They make my eyes hurt. Oh, I'm sorry, honey.

I don't, so I can't use them. But they made my eyes so white. It was beautiful. I just can't use them. Have you had to use the fake tears on set ever? Yes. And I have, actually, I texted Paul recently, this was a few months ago. It sounds fun.

I was going, I was like organizing stuff in my bathroom, and I put on this lip balm and then realized it was a tear stick. And it was like menthol. This is for when, when you're, You have a crying scene in a TV show or a movie, and you are not a lunatic so you can't do real tears. Sometimes I can do real tears in some little. A lunatic who's in touch with your emotions.

Yeah. But you have this thing that you can put under your eyes, which is supposed to help the tears come out. It did not work for me. It doesn't really work for me. Really? Yeah. I've never done it.

It works better if you're, like, actually about to cry. Like, if you're able to get the emotions really. 90% there. And then he was like, scrape a little under there. I've never had to legitimately cry for anything. It's always been like comedy crying. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, I was trying to comedy cry, but I really wanted like some real tears to be rolling

down. Of course. Just couldn't get there. I had one time, I think I've told you this story, but one time I had an audition. And in the, I got the audition when I was on the road. So I was like in a hotel room practicing the line. by myself. I've been in a hotel room next to you

when you've been doing that. You've probably heard me recording podcast ads. I've heard you, I've heard you screaming in the room. Oh, that's different. I'm murdering someone.

I do believe that one time you were got an audition and you were practicing and you were yelling. And I asked you what was going on and you said you just got an audition. I think it was in England. Eight years ago. Oh, yes.

You know what it was? It was for that movie, bombshell. Oh. And I was auditioning for the role. role of what's his fucking name,

Sean Hannity. And you did, who did the other part? Who read with you? No, I think Janie read with me.

Oh, no, wait, wait. I think you're just practice. That was a different trip. Oh,

okay. In any case. Why am I getting auditions to hotel room so many times? I don't know. It's honestly

one of the worst situations in my opinion. But by, so by myself practicing the lines, I like actually. No, you're a bombshell.

I cried. No, I'm a bomb. Oh, wow, really. Yeah. I sometimes

Then when we actually did the audition, I didn't get there. I sometimes think that... But my off-camera partner did. That it would be helpful for actors who find it difficult to cry to never read the script and just have it on teleprompter and behind the other actor's head. Because I think the first time you read something, it hits you in such a different way. And you can find yourself... I remember on your show...

I was going to say that's what you're basing this on. On your raised-by-TV show... podcast. I did the Fresh Prince thing and I called read it and I got choked up because I was like oh, this is actually pretty powerful.

I think the one time I was able to cry and roll was when I did, I was Jesus understudy and Jesus Christ Oh sure, sure, sure, the one time we did our Well, Jesus famously wept.

Yeah. And so I read that in the stage directions and I said, better do it. That actually moves me to tears. You know what it says Jesus rep, to say how long? It was really quick. It was as quick as the sentence

Jesus wept. It was like, I'm Jesus. Do you think Jesus cried as a baby? I think he did. That's the thing. That whole he never sinned thing. It's like he probably shit his pants.

He shit his diaper. I think that's a sin. Not in the Bible. Really? The Bible doesn't say anything about shitting yourself. Do you know what I found out as a result of doing the podcast? Too Scary didn't watch recently. Yeah.

Because we were talking about a movie that involved, this is, okay, there's a movie called The Ritual that came out this year. Number one, there's a million movies called The Ritual, so I don't know why that's the title you would go with. Right. Number two, it's based on the same case that the Exorcist was based on. Right. And in the trailer, they actually put on the screen in, based on the true story that inspired

the Exorcist. in the trailer for their own movie. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. That's so strange. The movie is not good. And it's like, why would you? A true story that inspired a really famous good movie.

Yeah. Yeah. A movie that everyone regards as a good movie. Yeah. Now we're going to do it. Yeah. We're going to take a shot at it. But in talking about like extrasystems and stuff like that, we, we were discussing how much the devil is in the Bible.

And he's not really in it that much. Is he like us? It's sort of like. like a Judy Dench and Shakespeare in love? You know what? Pretty much. Pretty much. Like only in it for 12 minutes, but just like...

But the impact. Yeah. But the impact. So in the New, in the Old Testament, not mentioned really at all, except for the serpent. Because honestly, God in the Old Testament is doing devil shit, usually. This is exactly right. This is exactly right. Like he didn't need the devil because God was taking care of it.

Yeah. He's like, I'm going to destroy you guys. Hey, murder your son. Have you guys ever heard the sort of idea that the devil is in the details? I've heard about idle hands being his workshop. Okay. Because I, yeah, I don't know if I've heard that part. But I've heard about the details thing, and I just was curious if you guys knew about that.

I don't think any of that is in the Bible. Is that a Bible quote? The devil's in the details? No, the Bible quote is, have you ever danced with the devil by the Palmon Lane? Oh, that's right. Yes. And then there's like a sort of bluegrassy sort of instrument. I mean, there should be a big book in the Bible in the Bible.

I mean, there should be a big book in the Bible about the devil went down to Georgia. I mean, that's arguably more famous. Yes, exactly. Arguably more famous than any Bible story. But they don't really talk about America too much in it. The book of Charlie Daniels. Sure. Like it would be kind of like, do they mean Georgia the country?

Yeah, possibly. And it came to pass that the devil went down to Georgia. So, yeah. And then in the New Testament, he's only mentioned a few times. He shows up to tempt Jesus. Wow. With one, like some chocolates. But then how much he's made a deal, a big deal of in modern religion, Christianity.

I mean, you mentioned. Well, because we know that he kind of runs hell. We know that he runs hell. He's the CEO. So it's kind of like if you're trying to avoid going there. Yeah. So he's a big figure in that sense. But they act like he's around every fucking corner.

Like, hello, steal that candy bar. Did you ever steal a candy bar? Yeah. Me too. Really? I never stole a candy bar. My sister said to me once that she'd never stolen anything. Anything.

Anything. Wow. Wow. She is the type of person who would never have stolen. How do you instill that in your child then? Because I'm dreading that call of like, you got to come down to the five and dime. Oh, look. Emmy was trying to steal some chicklets.

Mr. Alkerman, this is the Woolworth's calling. She stole a pocket comb. We still had werewurst when I was a kid. When I was a kid, we still had werewolves rolling the land. And I did go there, and I really enjoyed that story. It was definitely harkened back to a time once before. And we had a photo booth there. We had Gimbles.

By the way, speaking of Gimbals, Gantz Chalks was the store that I was trying to think of. a couple episodes ago. The department store that I got a credit card out. Got socks. Got socks. I got to go over to got shocks and get a new shirt.

Got shocks. You need back to school supplies? Come to got socks. We got backpacks. We've got rulers. We've got protractors. We've actually got shocks too if you need chalks for your sidewalk.

Got chokes? Got chokes? Got pencils. Got pencils. Got pencils. Got books, got papers. Got books, got pencils. Come down and meet chalky.

And you got to come. Chockey's a guy. His name's Charles. Chuck, he's a guy. He's a long explanation. Chalky's a guy. He's bigger than most guys. His name is so for Charles.

He went to prokeal school, and now he teaches English language as a second language. And you get to meet him. He actually has nothing to do with the name Got Sox, but he will be there. He's a friend of mine. He loves peanut butter on his pancakes. Oh, that's a weird part of him.

And he'll use a knife and fortile him, but he uses a jelly to smear it all over the top. Hey, he'd give you his shirt off his back, but don't ask him. If he gives him to, he'll keep asking for a back. He'll want two shirts in return. Never make a deal with chalky. And that brings us to the devil. The devil is waiting around every corner to getting you to steal a trapper keeper.

Don't succumb to his temptation. Please pay full prices. You'll pay double here, and you'll like it. If you're a good Christian, you will give us more money than the item is. Price that. Trapperkeeper is currently $6.95. Tropa keeper is currently $6.65. Trapper keepers currently $6.95.

I got to look up Gostock. What was it even based? You got to. You didn't even look it up. Are you telling me you've never looked this up? That's absolutely crazy. What is it based on? It was found by Emil.

The idea of a store? The name. Emil Gatschalk. as it was established in 1904 as a dry goods store in downtown Fresneau. Please spell the name, dear. G. I think I will.

It's spelled G-O-T-T. No, you have to do the whole thing. Gee, I think I will. Oh, oh, wow, I think I'm going to spell goshaw. Oh, are they? T. Try to listen while I spell goshawk. T. I'm tempted to spell gosh shock.

I'm tempted. All right. I'm sorry. Anyway, S-C-H-A-L-K. Wow. Hard to say, but he was a German-Jewish immigrant. Good for him.

And he passed control, of course, to his brother-in-law, Henry Korn, and his nephew, Abe Bloom. Corn. Corn. Cone. I like cone. That's what he said when he transferred the...

I like corn. It was the original I like corn. Yeah. He's original I like corn kid. And then that has passed into obscurity, the store? It is no longer a store. After 2000, it declined, eventually closed due to poor sales. The one exception was the Alaska market, where sales were strong and only one store and Wusilia was closed.

Wasilla, that's where fucking Sarah Penal's from. Oh, shit. And then in 2008 went into bankruptcy and liquidation. liquidation. The New York Stock Exchange officials stated that the value of the stock was too low to continue to be listed. That's so sad.

That sucks when you're a stock. It sucks when you're a stock and you're too low to be considered listed. That sucks. That sucks for stocks. That sucks with stocks. See, also, Max Gottschalk. Max Gottschalk.

He related. He was an artist of furniture designer and industrial designer. Um, I'm looking for any kind of, uh, oh, he created chairs and stuff like that. Oh, wouldn't it be? He created chairs? He created. We owe him a great debt.

Oh my God. Anytime I sit down. Thanks. I'm still like you right now. Yeah. I don't think he has any connection to the gosh chucks. Why would it be on the previous, a link on the previous? Not related in any way?

Not related in any way. Oh, I guess maybe if you're looking just for got chocks. Yeah. And you, yeah. Got chocks. Isn't it? I mean, when you think about it, The everyday inventions, it's crazy that they didn't exist at some point.

Yeah. I mean, the wheel, I get it. They're all a bunch of dumb cavemen. They're like, ooh, fire, whoa. Yeah, but it was a long time before the wheel was really used how we really needed to be used. Yeah. Because there were circles. I made around.

They were just rolling it around. Yeah. For fun. They didn't know what they were doing with that. The stick in the hoop. Yeah. Yeah. But when the chair is like, oh, there's got to be something better.

We were probably sitting on stumps. Yeah, rocks. Probably a lot of stumps. Do you think people like sought off stumps and brought them into their homes? Yes, I think that uprooted trees. Because they had homes, but it was long before chairs were created. I would think maybe people built their houses around a chair? Yeah, the stump.

If a stump existed, he'd be like, this is a good place for me to eat dinner. Let me build a structure. When was the table invented? That's a good question. Did I tell you that my father, when he built the house that he had, he designed and built, I mean, he had a, he had a, uh, uh, Contractor. Architect. Architect.

Thank you. All I got to think of is Mike Brady. I should have popped to Mike. For anything. For anything. Mike Brady, please help me. He is the touchstone. But he designed it with him and designed a house where he and my parents or my mom live for a while.

But he took me through it one day and he was like, oh, check out this room. And it was on the bottom floor. And it was like a little tiny door. And I opened it up. And it was smelly. and smelly Smelly and dirt in the room

Dad, this room's Smelly and dirt It was smelly and there was It was not a real floor It was dirt Okay What was he doing in there? And it had a big

tree stump in there And what was going on in there? And he said So this We cut down this tree In order to build the house This was on like a lot That he bought the land for

We cut down the tree to build the house and I investigated how much money it would be to uproot the stump and decided that it would be more cost effective just to build around it and to build this little room where it just exists, right? That's crazy. And I was like, okay, interesting. And then when we had to- Why not put a floor in there?

because the tree stump is there. But I mean, why not just build it around the tree stump? Because that's also money. Yeah, but it was like a low, lower ceiling. It was just like a little, it was almost like a crawl space or whatever. It was the stone's true. Yeah. But why has it happy there?

Well, I have a door at all. Why even be able to see it? Now that I wonder. Because it doesn't, your dad doesn't strike me as being a whimsical person. Yeah. No. But this feels like a very whimsical thing. Well, you know, but I do.

Although him showing it to me was whimsical. I do think that there's a tendency. and, you know, I've seen this time and again, when people weigh in with their architects and these people have no sense of stuff like that, they tend to get a little whimsical. Interesting. And I go, what have we had a little door?

Where I got access to the stump. What a little door? Or they make choices that you'd go, what? Because it's like, oh, that was my idea. Well, yeah, the architect probably wouldn't have gone. Like, we need a door to get to the stump. The one thing I want to say about it, though, is he told it to me, like, look how smart I am for,

building around the stump and see how much cheaper the house was I don't know how much it would have been like a thousand dollars or something like that to take out the stump when we sold after he got sick and I was tasked with selling his house

they tested the air in it and because of that stump there was some sort of like weird air quality issue in the house which made it have to be listed at maybe $100,000 less than my god then what they would have gotten and to me that is a big uh lesson of just like just pull the fucking stop yeah yeah yeah yeah you don't make a room for it yeah i don't have the door

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Hey, we're back. That's cool. That's really cool, isn't it? Cool. Yeah. Hey, guys. What invention in this room do you think is the most recent invention? And what do you think is the oldest invention?

Yeah. Okay, the oldest. probably that wheel Oh yeah, the big stone wheel Yeah Yeah, why do you have that further? I think I would say Well, let's let's get rid of the idea of furniture

Yeah, furniture Can't be Oldest invention, maybe microphone Like technological Maybe microphone Well like a microphone existed probably before a TV But like door, do you think door counts as furniture? No, yeah, I don't think doors

What was the first door? Do you think it was like a flap? I'm not saying every thing in the room? Then I'd say like a bookcase is, a door is older than a bookcase, maybe. Maybe. Well, this is the kind of shit I don't want to get into. Okay, okay, great.

Medieval times. I bet bookcases didn't exist before books. They might have had a midi, they might have had a bookcase before they even had a door. Is door older than chair? Do you think doors older than chair? No, I've, well, maybe. It could be.

It could be. You think they just had open air spaces? Like, what was the most? You mean a door with a hinge? The most pressing thing. What about Hinge, the app? That's definitely one of the oldest. Older than telephone?

Do you guys mind if I'm on Hinge? I don't mind. I would actually love if I found out Europe to some weird shit like that. Just because it would be a lot to talk about. On this show? I don't think I would talk about it on the show. We're talking about your affairs?

Yes. Who's next to be crazy? Who's next? Who's next? Who's next? Who's next to be? The three of us? No, just in the world of people we know

who's going to be like uncovered as being crazy. It's always funny the people that, yeah, because, like, every once in a while it would be like, yeah, that tracks. Yeah. And then there will be like, boy, oh, oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, y. I feel, don't you feel like the shocking ones are very rare, though? They, where it's somebody who has successfully successfully, successfully put up a mask, so convincing. Yeah. Like, I feel like that's very rare.

Yeah. The mask. Now that guy, his mask was green. We could tell he was wearing it. I know. Yeah. I was like, no, people aren't green. And yet people were attracted to him.

Well, he was very sexy. He was hot. Someone stopped him at one point. The mask had charisma. He asked them to, Scott. Oh, that's right. Yeah. His consent was given.

Do you think frames, like a art frame, existed before a bookcase? No, I bet bookcase existed for, well, how old are books? Well, speaking of. How old are printed books that need to go in a bookcase? Yeah. You know, what? Thirteen hundreds? They had folios and shit.

Oh, they had folios and shit. Let's see. How old is the oldest book? Back then, old times, they have folios and shit. Do you think that? Old is the oldest book. And this kind of relates to the clock invention on Gilded Age. But do you think everything has been invented non-computer related at this point?

You know what I mean? Oh, anything that does not involve something you plug in or... Yeah, circuitry or what have you. The oldest book. He's a great question. I like that question a lot. Is estimated to be around 2,673 years old. That was 2006.

It was found in a canal off the Stromer River, and it's made up of six sheets of 24-carat gold bound together. The book is written in Etruscan script and includes depictions of soldiers, horses, and other figures. So they think it was printed from 868 C.E. C.E. Common era. Wow. Well, so that's old. Okay, then the oldest multi, this one says it was from 660 BC.

Okay, here's the thing, though. But that's not a book. that's pages bound together but um but also when we're thinking of when we're thinking of bookshelf we're thinking of shelves which yeah yeah to put stuff which you could put your trophies on books yeah trophies participation trophies probably the first thing we invented was trophies after the wheel we discovered fire we invented the wheel trophies yep uh-huh um door door but like my my friend my friend once really wanted to patent something that he invented i'll just say it right now because

this was literally 30 years ago. But he did... If he hasn't patented it, yeah. He never will. Still thinking about it. He did a lot of work on sets. He did a lot of crew work for theater productions. And he had fashioned something out of some material that wrapped around the end of his drill that he could attach his flashlight to because he would quite often be in the dark and backstage and having to, you know, unscrew something.

during the show. And so he's like, I really want to patent this attachment for drills because it doesn't exist yet. But I, you know, I wonder about that. Like, there's got to be things that people are inventing.

It must be on Shark Tank and stuff of things that people are inventing that are non-computer related. But it just seems like almost, and I know this is like an old thing of like they've gone about as far as they can go. But hinges for doors. Like, are they ever going to come up with like

doors you can open on either way? or... Well, that does exist. Here's what I think about. How long did it take them to invent roly bags? Right. Yeah.

It makes so much more sense. And then how long did it take them to add another set of wheels so you can just push it flat? And then the extent... Because they were just two wheels forever and you would have to angle it. No, I'm talking about the modern,

like the upright rolly bag suitcase. Because for a while, it's so recent. It was four wheels that you would carry with a strap. And it would not work. It would always fall over. Yeah. Yeah.

And even that was like very late. I was listening to the three bean salad podcast and that the idea of wheeled suitcases yep that's right okay okay um that was like a maybe a 20th century invention the the rolling suitcase with the four wheels is that what you're saying or what the the the one the the landscape suitcase suitcase and the miserable little wheels it would be on it feels like that was in the 70s to me because I remember it being sort of like, oh, that way? Or like flight attendants would have it in my, in my vision.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like the dub the one that we have today was like in the last 20 years. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe how long it took. Yeah. Why didn't some idiot think of that earlier? Yeah. It was like 20 years.

I want to say. If your clothes go that way, it's a mess. I do want to think, I do think it was about 20 years ago probably, but it still was like a luxury and you're not going to throw out your old one to get that. You know what I mean? Like, that would have felt stupid right away. And look, we're idiots. We don't know what we're talking about. There's someone out there going, no, don't you know this?

But do you think it might have to do with whatever material is used for it? Like plastics, they're suddenly easier to mold into these shapes or, you know what I mean? But I mean, when you think about it, like I'm thinking about my last, the suitcase I had when I was a kid, right? It's like the only suitcase I ever had. Describe it, Paul. That was a, it was about this. Paul is extending his arms approximately two and a half feet. I would say it would fill, you would, it would contain the same amount of stuff you could get in a standard roly bag today.

Because it was wide, it was wide, but it was, it had, no, it had like, it had, this one had two wheels on one end and a strap. Walk on two wheels, not on four. And a strap. And a strap. So you could like, ostensibly sort of lift it. Yeah. and pull it along. But it always fall over.

It worked terribly. Yeah. But it was also a lot shallower than... In the shallow. Shallow low. That's correct. Wow. It was just like that.

It was green, by the way. It was just like a big rectangle. Do you remember the color of yours? Mine was like tan. Tan with brown accents. Businessman tan. Oh, yeah. I can picture what you're talking about.

Where it kind of looked like a briefcase. If you could lift it by just a handle. But then I also had like you could pull it like a like a, like a, like a dog on a leash kind of thing. Do you think so it was, was there some sort of mental thing? It's also the only pet I ever had. Was there some sort of mental thing about it

where people were like, yeah, anyone could put wheels on, like, anyone could invent that. But how, what kind of message would that be telling people? You can't even pick up your own suitcase. You know what I mean? Where people are like.

People act like it's lazy. Like once it's a new invention, you're like, oh, what, you can't pick your, you can't carry your suitcase. Well, I remember when the cell phone was invented. Me and my friend were like, But I don't think... We're not going to get these.

I don't think anyone in America, if you present them with an idea of this will make doing a physical thing easier, they would not be absolutely on board. Well, how about the snuggy? How about the snuggy? We got on board with that. Consider the snuggy. That was like a funny gift for two seconds. Yeah. It was a gag gift for literally point two seconds.

If you missed the window, you missed it while it's hot. Yeah. I was, you know, doing my ER. rewatch recently it's very funny to see the evolution of attitudes towards cell phones because they don't exist when ER starts then there is they do exist then there's a period where it's like he has one of those cell phones they talk about like a patient has one and then there's a period where it's like hey you got to get that out of here that can't be in here yeah and then there's a period of like hey you're getting one of these where the doctors are sort of like that's so weird

And then there's a patient on the table during a surgery scrolling. Yeah. It just cuts right to that, doom scrolling. No, but then there's a point where everyone just kind of has one at that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I remember that time when they were new and I, I scoffed at them, of course, because it looked like it was immediately portrayed as this is a thing that a rich asshole thinks he needs to have. Right, because it's like in your convertible. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did I tell you about the guy who came to our theater school and I'm, please forget. He was looking for a soul to steal? He was. But please forgive me if I've told this before. So now we're asking for forgiveness if we've told it. I think it's time. I think it's time. But it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

You're right. Because you do not have permission to tell the story again. Okay. Should we ask for permission before we tell any story from now? Paul, do I have permission to tell my story? Yes, I grant you permission. Do I have permission and you have my forgiveness if I've heard it before? Thank you very much.

And you have my blessing. Oh, that's even better. But this actor came. to visit us at theater school did you do finger quotes I did because I've never seen him in anything I've never saw him again but um he um he was telling us what it was like to be a working actor in Los Angeles this is 1992 or three right and he takes out of his pocket a cell phone and he points at it and go see this this is your best friend It's so sad

And then it came true Because You're going to be going to Three or four auditions a day Boy, wouldn't that be nice I miss the good old days And you're You're going to be at one audition

And you're not going to want to pull over To the side of the road And to a pay phone And have to call your agent For all the info To all your information So maybe it was a car phone Or something I got

Because I don't even know If cell phones existed then but and we all laughed at this guy and we were all just like what a fucking asshole this guy is like oh this is your best friend and now look at him he's the smartest man in the world never worked again he has a million auditions a day he went into cell phones he was like charlie in the chocolate factory for cell phones yeah um but yeah i don't know well but yeah i don't know yeah the one thing i wanted to say is i don't know but yeah none of us know when did glass come into door glass

meaning glass doors or or panes of glass like a window in the door either huh first first the one

pain came in and then they're like what if we tried the whole door we've been trying all of this but the idea of finally we got this door

well I can't see anything I would think the first people to have a fully glass door like we had we had these in our in our back our back wall

like sliding door yeah sliding glass patio door. Did you see that movie? Slighting class patio doors? I did, yeah. I would think that would be very scary for the first people to buy one

because it's like, well, what if someone just breaks it? Yeah. And enters our house. There had to be a lot of reassurance. Yeah. And I still... There had to be like demonstrations

where they're just throwing bricks against these things. Yeah, like the cyber truck. Yeah. Look, happy? But I think that it would be like, you could just say like, well, people can just

you know, break through wood, too. Right. Like, we're all on the honor system here. At that point. Windows are Winsos, so why should it be?

You know what I mean? Winsos are Winszo. I think Winsow is a nice name for a boy. Winsow. Winsow. And when are you expecting? Okay. You ready?

Yeah. 2027. Wow. Wow. It's going to have sex next year. Yep. Wow. And it's a dog, right?

Yep. When are you getting your dog? I don't know. I always wonder this. We still talk about it. Talk about getting your dog. Because it's really nice to not have the responsibility when you go on trips. It is.

Not have the responsibility just being at home. And going on a walk. Yeah. I have had. It's a lot. It would be good for something else to get me out of the house, though. Well, that's true. I've had as many as three dogs in this house recently.

And it is really booming me out. Like all they're barking. Too much. And all of the chores associated with it. And I just. remember those three months after our beloved rock he passed away. I know, I know. That I was so excited. I kind of was like,

this is sort of nice. Like not having to ever rush back. I know. Well, like our dog, we went out of town and our dog stayed with friends and then when we came back, we had like one night without the dog and I was like, well, this is easier. She gets up in the middle

the night to go out. Like, she just, she's not perfectly trained and I blame myself. But it's frustrating at times when you're like, I have to wake up for children throughout the night and then now you're jumping out of the bed and I think you're going to go pee somewhere so I have to go let you out.

And like that's, I'm, I want to be asleep now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I prefer sleeping now. But I care about her a lot. Yeah. And I love her. And it's, but it is when you have a break from a pet, you go like, oh, that would be less to do.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I love her and I love snuggling with her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You snuggle with your dogs, right, Scott? there's there's one the other one is not really fond of me and who knows maybe the feeling's mutual she's kind of a dudm Molly loves you Georgia no opposite opposite Georgia I'm like her as Kulap says all the time I'm her favorite person and so when I am not giving her any attention she's very sad but Molly just like all she wants to do is just lie down on the floor And occasionally I'll get up from the couch and I'll return and Molly's in my spot. And I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Here's what bothered me about Molly.

So you come, you're a visitor to the house. Yeah. Of course the dogs start barking. Yeah. Georgia, though, stops barking. Molly keeps barking. They both like, hey, idiot. Can you see how this dog is cool with me?

I know. We're friends. The worst is that if people. then go upstairs like they're staying here or whatever, even if they are established as they're a visitor in our home when they come downstairs, you get the same amount of barking of like, intruder!

You know what I noticed today was and I wonder if this is true. Dogs bark at things on the ground exclusively. At least my dogs do. Not in the sky. Because there was a bird flapping around its wings right above

our dogs today in the yard when I was, when I had them on leash now. since the attack and bird flapping around and it got my attention and I was like oh this is very close to my head what's going on with this bird

the dogs couldn't give a shit well maybe I know the bird is not going to enter their home why I don't know they can tell birds are outside I can tell I saw a video though

of a dog barking at the moon like when the moon you can see the moon during the day and the dog was like what the fuck I want that. Let me add it. Why do dogs bark at the moon?

Do they think it's a... Because you're right, there's that whole cliche about howling of the moon and everything. They're ruled by the moon. They're ruled by the tides. The moon rules the tides, women's periods and dogs. Do you remember when you learned that women's periods sink up? Like, what a glorious piece of information. It's not even true.

I was just going to say, I feel like I heard that. I believed it. And then only recently somebody said it wasn't true. And I was like, oh, yeah. I think the odds are that you could both have it at the same time. I guess. Wouldn't everyone in the world, I mean, the world is 51% women. Wouldn't everyone in the world have their periods at the same time?

No, but it's always like you sync up when you live together or something is what they say. But that's not true. No. It can't be true. I mean, it's like having a coincidence. Building around you. Because you could have it on opposite ends of the month. Right.

And then all of a sudden, so what, does somebody not have one for a while or somebody has one Right, like it's always late and early. Everyone's last for different amounts of days. Yeah. I like hearing you guys talk about this. Until eventually it's all the same. Are we? It's just funny.

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It tells you the weather in any country. We don't know where, where, we can't tell you where it is, but we know it's somewhere. Yes, we know it somewhere. So what you'll see is just a display of like sunny, 71 degrees, but you won't know, it won't say where. It won't say where. But if it happens to be exactly that where you are, you win a prize. Yeah. That would be great to win the prize.

To win a prize, yeah. But the prize isn't good. The prize is not good, but I'm just pointing we haven't any prize winners yet. the prize is an old pencil yeah and not like an antique it's been chewed and the lead's fallen out

it's got four shoe marks on it the lead has fallen out like yeah it was sharpened where like the hole got big and then the lead just fell out you would have to sharpen this down to practically the eraser to get the lead to show and that could be kind of fun

that could be kind of fun and it has a landscaping services phone number written on it on the side of it so if you sharpen it all the way down you won't have you won't have the number anymore But you will have the name of the company, which is Hitler Landscaping. But you can't write down the number on the pencil without the pencil. So you can't, it's kind of a catch-22 because you want to shave it down.

And you're not allowed to take a picture of the pencil. No. No. You're not allowed to use. That is the honor system. Well, you have to use what was available when the pencil was created. Yes. And when the pencil was created, the original pencil.

The photographs did not exist. No, and you probably didn't have another pencil either because they were. were hard to come by. So you have to use the pencil you have. Yeah. This is a pencil from the dawn of pencils. So in a way, it's pretty valuable. But if you wanted, you could write the number into the dirt with the pencil.

Yeah, that's allowed. Yeah. Sharpen it down. But do you want to do that? Then you're going to write on to this paper. Do you really want to be living in dirt and filth? Also, you can't memorize the number. No.

Well, you wouldn't be able to. You shouldn't be able to. I mean, there are people who have memorized. Not only is there a rule against it. You can't. Yeah, you can't. You couldn't, wouldn't, and shouldn't be able to. even the people who have memorized the every digit of pie would be able to do this, because

this is a complicated night. Why are people doing that? I don't know. They do it because they might need to know that at some point. Oh, I sound directed. I know pie exists for a reason. Because it's yummy. When is everyone, anyone needed to know it? When is everyone and everyone need to know it? When does everyone need to know it? I don't know why. Just tell me what is everyone needed to know it. I don't really know what pie is and I don't know how it helps us or hurts us. I mean, it's been... P.I. Probably, at this point, it has been 40 years since it was explained to me.

Has anyone done like a really funny sketch where it's Magnum P.I., but it's Magnum P.I., and he's always going like, 3.14-79. Oh, like he's mentally ill. Has anyone done a mentally ill magnum P.I yet? Oh, wait, that's monk. I'm just wondering. Yeah, pie. So here's what I know about Pye. 3.14, blah, blah, blah.

And then I know that symbol that was inexplicable. Explicably the tattoo on the back of Pablo Schreber's character on the wire. He had a pie tattoo? He had a pie tattoo in the back of his neck. Interesting. I thought it was like a lower back tattoo. That would be crazy. In any case, hadclaims8.com, it's where one of its uses is where voicemails are made.

Yeah, you can communicate voicemails to anyone. They come through us, and they're usually questions for us. Yeah. But you can voicemail anyone, and we, scouts honor, we will pass it on to whomever you intended to go to. Yes. Oh, absolutely. If you leave us a message that's intended for someone else, we will forward that to them. Definitely.

There's a little bit of, there's an extra charge. Of course there is. Obviously, and a waiting period. Hag claims it basic is free. Yeah. And then there's tears. Yeah. When you realize.

How expensive this is going to be. So, in any of case, why don't we hear one of these voicemails? Yeah, sure. Here we go. Hi, Freedom Gang. This is Katie from Michigan. Hi, Katie. Big first time caller.

I have been very lucky that I have lots of people on both sides of my family. And we've always gotten together a few times a year at least for holidays, celebrations, et cetera. And those gatherings are usually a potluck sort of thing. And over the years, like certain people have become known for making, like this one great dish that's so good. And it's their dish. And if they don't bring it, then there's a problem. So, like, my aunt Karen makes this Oreo dessert.

My mom makes an apple dip. My uncle makes beans. And everyone loves it. So my question is, do you have any specific dishes that a friend or a family member makes for potlight gatherings that's become, like, their thing that you love? Or if you have any memories of that, like, when you are younger. So anyway, love you. Love you. Love the podcast.

Thank you. Bye. Thank you, Melissa. Thank you, Kee. from Threaty. I mean from Michigan. We're from freedom.

Wait, are we from Michigan? My friend Melissa's from Michigan. That's why I said Melissa. Oh, I apologize, Katie. Katie. You guys are a disaster. Thank you, Katie from Threaton. Thank you, Melissa.

From Michigan. We don't know who the fuck you are or where you're from. You're a disaster. Like, what the hell? What do you make, Paul? What do you make, Scott? You know, I don't make anything. I have been saying for years,

just haven't fucking done anything about it that I should at least learn how to make one thing that is like I'm going to make dinner tonight yeah and I make this thing yeah I still haven't done it damn but my mom's thing when I was a kid was she'd make a cheesecake that I fucking loved oh my god and your mom would send you uh yeah your mom my mommy would send me uh pasta she would send me you know I've had to go to a number of potluck things since Holly's been of the age to go to preschool. There happened to be these events. Yeah, we have those too.

And I used to always be afraid of a potluck or more likely to just buy something and bring that, which I don't think is bad because I mean people like a shirt thing. We had potlucks at church and it was thrilling when someone would just bring KFC. Right, right. Yeah, of course. And it would be gone immediately. Like someone would bring munchkins to the potluck and it's like, yeah,

how yeah, munchkins. Yeah. But, like, I now, since Mike has gotten into cooking, I've seen that there are certain things that really just aren't that hard that you might have. Right. Like a salad is actually very easy to make and really pleasing. And so I like to make a salad that has like arugula, strawberries, goat cheese, walnuts, that kind of thing. That sounds delicious.

And protein? Well, no, but you could put chicken in there. salad. Yeah. Wonderful. But I like to do that. But I wouldn't say that one and said that's my thing. But I would say, I guess if I had to go to a potluck right now, I would bring that.

Did your mommy make a thing when you were a kid? Well, it's the Pesto that I mentioned last time. The famous Pesto. So she would bring into Potlux and stuff. We didn't go to Potlux. Oh, okay. I mean, I don't know what we were doing. If anything, we probably would bring cupcakes or something, like we would make cupcakes

and bring that to a potluck type scenario. But dessert was more of a comfort area for us. We didn't really go to Potlux either. I remember that when we used to do things. Thanksgiving with my cousins every year. We did it for a long, long time. And the, it would be switched off houses. It would be at our house one year. It would be their house. Right. Because did they live next door or I can't remember? No, that's my other cousins. Oh, okay. Live next door. Um, but, uh, if you were the, the visitors, you would bring dessert. Uh-huh. Hmm. So that the, the, the home team would

make the dinner. And then you would bring dessert. Okay. That's nice. And honestly, alcohol. Well, like, one time for her, like, the first time Holly's school had a little Pollock, I brought, like, Susie Cakes, which I love those cookies and cupcakes from there. It's a really yummy little. I think it's a... You can't get them at Subway these days. No, you can't. I think so. Can you? No. Susie Cakes is like a bakery. Oh. It's not like a... Susie Cues. Yeah.

Oh, is that what I'm thinking of? I don't know. There's like a dessert kind of thing, yeah. I'd be amazed if they teamed up with Subway, but I don't think they have. They only have, like, four locations. Don't want to be associated with Jared Fogel? but I brought these like cookies that they're kind of expensive and then like it was very much like not necessary to do that because the munchkins were a hit everything was a hit two things first of all yep it sucks so bad for subway oh my god you can't control with this somebody mentioned subway and then automatically you think of

fucking jerry focal but they've they've successfully seemed to have moved past it I know that you can't fine but I can't I can't and I won't What's your second thing? The second thing is, how did Dunkin' Donuts get away with Munchkins? Oh, like they would be, well, I think the Wizard of Oz is in public domain. Do they still call it Munchkins? The things you can't, I think they do. The things you can't use in Wizard of Oz are the changes that MGM made to the story.

So that's why the Ruby slippers are copyrighted. Right. Because they're glass, I believe, in the book. No, that's. It's fucking... Cinderella. They're silver or something because in Wicked, they did that.

Right. So, yeah. So, but you can say Munchkins because that is in the book. Nice. What about Munchkin that killed himself? Well, what are you going to bring to a pot lot? Coolup makes...

They were silver, not Ruby Red, just for the right. Okay. Thank you. So I was right. Okay. Cool up makes cream cheese as wantons. Whoa. That's her thing.

Crab Rangoon. Krab Rangoon. And so she brings... them to like the preschool potlucks and stuff like that and everyone loves them. I love crap brengo. Love it. My mom would make casseroles which I find to be a bit of a bummer

to this day or hot dish if you're in a certain area. But she also, she had a dessert business for a while. She had like a dessert business. Yeah. She and her friend made really good desserts so they started a business where they could order them and stuff like that.

So she's really good at desserts. And she, and it's funny because she brings stuff over now when she visits that she gets to make because she, she loved cooking and she honestly didn't get to cook a lot over the last eight years because as mentioned, my father had a G-tube. And so, and it's kind of boring or lame to cook just for yourself and you have so much, so much left over. So she really enjoys like coming to visit because then she'll make a bunch of stuff. That's nice. And what, are you going to make a cake for a potluck? man so we were talking about this during COVID so many of the things that we got into making like me with cakes pizzas specialty cocktails me with myself fatter by drinking a bottle of wine every night

yeah we we have using the the big our our uh uh uh uh cool up sister's husband uh use the big green egg for the first time. For the first time, I haven't used it since right before COVID. So I really should get back into that stuff. But, you know, having Emmy feels like another full-time job. Absolutely. So it's hard to do. But, yeah, I had a roommate who would make, he would always like, his third date was always

like, I invited her over to make sour cream enchiladas. What? Did you say it like that? It was the one thing that you knew how to be. rude to make sour cream enchiladas. That was always like, then Chris Hanson shows up. We're going to get sour cream enchiladas, huh?

Oh, I thought you were talking to that girl about making sour cream enchiladas. Well, just so you know, I'm that girl. How, what a bummer for Chris Hanson then. He can't even show up to a party without everyone going, oh shit. Yeah. I love, Charle Lester. I got to get out of here. I got to get the fuck out of here.

He found me here? I know he's here for me. Like four different guys. guy well great question katie thank you katie um thank you katie from three to michigan you know what i did make a cake for for emmy last year oh that i did make a cake in the last did she love it uh yeah she love oh my god she loves chocolate so much it's it's good chocolate's good i don't know if this is true but our friends who are parents said because you know i get very concerned about like are you eating are you eating enough

I don't know, protein or vegetables or whatever. They're like, you know, these kids basically just exist on carbs. Yeah. Like they just burn so much energy that it's like they're just craving carbs all the time. And then he's just constantly like snack, snack, stack. And you go, what about this? And this is always just like, no, pretzels. She wants crunchies.

Give it to her. Crunchies. I know. I know. A lot of times I'll say like, okay, it's time for dinner. And she's like, I don't want dinner. And I'm like, okay, I'll just give you some food. say, I don't want food.

I want snacks. Yeah. And then I'll put it, I'll say, here's some snacks, but it's like enough that constitutes a dinner. Right. It's like carrots, snap peas, like things that you can eat and I wouldn't feel bad. And it's like, that's your snacks. But if I say it's dinner. Yeah.

Do you know what I hate guys? What? I really hate it. Itamami. I love it. I like it. I wish I liked it. If you have to order it at a sushi place, I never do.

I do. But if it comes. Sure. I order it. You order it that much. I make it at home. You make it at home. Holly likes it amami, so I make it a lot.

We have it at home. And I eat it, but. We have it at home and you eat it and you don't like it. We don't like it. We don't like it. We don't like it. We don't like it. We don't like sit about me, do we?

And I, like, Janie made something recently that had so much etamami in it. And I like it in a salad. I just fucking, I just ate it. And I was like, do I say something? Yeah. Like, this is a lot of a thing that I don't like. Wow. But she's cooking.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you got to just go with it. You got your feet up. Hey, there's kind of a lot of edamama in this, babe. I got my feet up. I'm in my tank top. Hey, I don't really like how much edamama I have to pick her on, babe. Hey, babe.

Hey, babe. Love the dinner. One small note. It's kind of a lot of that little green stuff I told you I'm afraid of. Afraid of. Every bite. But there is something that's comforting. as an adult to realize, I don't like this on its own merits.

Right. It's not that I... No, yeah, like, I don't like salantro. I'm not being a baby. I don't really like... I don't like ginger. And I can just go, I don't like that. I don't like beats.

I just, I don't think I'll ever like beats. And it's not like people I know. I don't know why my parents where I kind of go... Drag them. People you know. Where I kind of go like, you just haven't had good versions of these things that you say you don't like. Oh, totally.

I love Beats, actually. I mean, like, there's a restaurant near L.A. It's in L.A. So somewhere near L.A. It's actually nowhere near us, which is why it was funny. Is it in Threatom, Los Angeles? Yeah, but they make really good beet salad. And Mike hates Beats, but I like Beats.

I like Beats, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But I would have been afraid of Beets my whole life. You know, that's like, I'm not eating at. No, no, no. Beets was definitely a thing that I didn't eat when I was a kid. I think you have to try everything you didn't like as a kid just.

to see if you like it. Yeah, for sure. And I've tried beats so many times and have them in so much stuff where I finally just gave up. That's exactly. When you've put in your due diligence, then you can say,

no, I don't like this. Yes. That's on it. It's not just, oh, I don't like fish. I've never had, even since I've been a kid, I've just like never liked fish. Yeah.

It's like, have your fucking fish and like it. I'm not crazy about fish, but I make myself eat it. You know what I mean? I'm not talking about you, by the way. That wasn't something. I didn't think that you were.

Oh, okay. No, I'm wondering, though. I feel like he was talking about you. But yeah, there's certain... I've discovered that there's certain seafood things and what I can eat and actually enjoy. And there's other things that are a little bit more challenge.

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