Threedom - Who's The Piss Pig Now?!

Episode Date: November 28, 2024

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Do you think they have enough water and snacks in the closet we locked them in? I'm not going to check on them. It's my one rule. Are you sure they're fine, guys? So what? Do we have to introduce ourselves? I don't know. What happens?

This is the Spouse episode of Freedom? Hi, I'm Lauren Lapkus. Hi, I'm Sco of Three Dumb. Hi, I'm Lauren Lapkus. Hi, I'm Scooter Ackerman. Hi, I'm Paula Tompkins. Three Dumb! Three Dumb! Yeah! Oh my gosh, you guys, it's so fun to be here today.

I asked Scott, so explain to me what Three Dumb's, what's the, give me the gist. He's like, oh, you just interrupt each other a lot. I know, he said that today as well. I said, am I supposed to interrupt them? But then he said yes, but then Lauren said no. We didn't have to. Which is classic, freedom, I would say.

I feel like one thing we should all say up top, and I'm happy to go first here, is how much freedom we have listened to and engaged with. Because I know this is a scary question. It is. Because I feel like we have to say we listen nonstop. I hear every episode before it comes out and I review it and I write down my favorite jokes. I feel like that's the answer.

You feel that the, oh wow. I feel that that is the answer that they want from us. But the reality is we're married to these people. Yeah. We, I don't, I listen sometimes. Okay. Okay. I love it. I love all these people. They're very funny. I married one of them. And you're willing to marry the others. I don't, I listen sometimes. Okay. Okay. I love it. I love all these people. They're very funny.

I married one of them. Yeah. And you're willing to marry the others. I would. If given the chance. Yes, yes. If you set it up in the right way, I would marry every single member of 3Dim. But I have it sometimes where a friend,

like I have friends who are dedicated piss pigs. Yeah. And they will say stuff to me. They'll text me something about an episode and I'll go, I have no idea what you're referring to. But then that will make me feel bad. And so I'll just go like, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I go, I guess they were talking about that. Yeah, I have listened to at least parts of some and maybe a full one because people tagged me.

Yes. Okay. And I felt like I needed to defend myself. Something I was being spoken about. That's the only thing that I was able to do. I was able to defend myself. I was able. And I felt like I needed to defend myself. I was being spoken about. Sure.

That's the only time that I have listened. I think that I'm in the same boat as Coolat because well, I don't know, does this happen where they have to sometimes listen back to it for editing or things. Yes. And so it gets played around me sometimes. Oh, OK.

And then I'll be like, oh, that's funny. They're talking about me or they're talking about cool up or Mike or something. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of funny. And then I did listen to an episode just to prepare for today, just in case, like there was something about it that I didn't know. Yes. And then I had to come in with like, oh, this is the segment where we do X, Y and Z. I was feeling a similar anxiety.

And you came up with? Just interrupting. Got it. Yeah. Yeah, my takeaway was interrupting. Yeah. And I was like, oh, we're never going to have that kind of rapport, probably, because number one, they just been doing it for so long. Yeah. And I want to know what you guys are thinking. I'm interested in your thoughts.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking as I was listening, I might drive over here and I was thinking, I'm probably not going to interrupt very much. Yeah. I'm probably just going to let everyone finish their thought. Yeah. I know it feels weird to interrupt, but I don't know. Like, maybe we will. Maybe we will. Someone will start saying a story and then I'll just go, I'll make it about me.

Yeah. I know that we're also on a text chain together. Yes. A lot. So we talk a lot. So it's not like we need to be listening to 3Dim. But also it's like, Paul does a lot of podcasts. Scott does so many.

I mean, Lauren has a million podcasts. How would we listen to all of it? It's impossible. And still be in the same house. Yeah. I almost of it? It's impossible. It'd still be in the same like house. Yeah, I almost think it would be unsettling. Like I almost feel like like the other night Lauren was out and she came home and I was listening in preparation and you know, out of anxiety about how much I've listened to. And then when she came in, I like took off my headphones as though I was doing something

really weird. And then she's like, what? And I was like, no, no, I just I was like listening to the three of them right now. And she's like, oh, and then we had like that. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you were really funny in general. Like, do you do you like want your spouse to see your stuff? Because I'm like doing a little play in January and I haven't told anyone the last play I went to you were in that was like pre pandemic. Oh 2019 yeah yeah yeah.

And you were great in it. Yeah I loved it. Thank you guys, thanks for coming by the way. This is like not gonna have as much rehearsal as that one which is another reason why I haven't told anyone about it. And I'm like kind of like is this gonna pan out? But I don't know like do you, like you were just in a film that went to Austin Film Festival.

I almost feel like it's like I need Lauren to see it, but then she's also the person I'm like most embarrassed. Like I feel most embarrassed about her watching it. Okay. Really? Yeah. Where I'm sort of like I want you to watch, but I'm also like so embarrassed. So like will you be in the room when she watches or?

No, no. God no, no. But also like I really wanted her to watch that movie because it was like a drama and so I felt really self-conscious about it. And then, but I am, my toxic, one of my toxic traits is that then no matter what positive thing you say, I go like, ugh, ugh, I'm just, ugh, I'm so bad.

Or, you know, like, I sort of like can't receive the thing that I like am basically setting you up to do. Then you go like, you're great, and I go like, ugh, it's ugh. How do you take critiques then? I love critiques. I basically only want critiques. Because you think that you need the critiques. Because I'm like, well, that's what you're really thinking

is the critique. And then I kind of go like, the compliment is like, you're buffering my ego to receive the critique. But I sort of go like, just give me just the critique. So like you don't believe any face value. I just sort of go like, I, it's almost almost like I don't even have like the capacity to receive it in a way that isn't annoying. Like I, if you say a nice thing and I go, great, okay, thank you.

Yeah, thank you. I know you had to say that. It's like how I always, like I feel like the nice thing is always like required, but that the, the critique is the thing that you mean. Okay. I, I feel that I, cause I, Scott gives such great notes. I really do care about his opinion, but I am sensitive as to when I will share work with him. It's got to be at a certain point for me. Okay. Like, yeah, like it's got to, yeah, it's so funny because it's also

like there, I think there's this sort of like, oh, I wanna make sure this is totally mine and I figured it out before I get his feedback. And it doesn't, I don't necessarily, yeah. Like I, yeah, I guess it's like, it's gotta feel right. And then he can take his time. I feel like, yeah, I think you're really right with like the timing of where the thing is because it really does depend. Like if you're early in something

and then they give you a critique, you're like, I just fucking just started working on that. It's too early, it's too raw. I just started, you know. Yes. But when you're kind of like already pretty distant from it, any critique, I'm sort of like, oh, sure. OK, great. Yeah, and I think it's I'm simply not ready for feedback. Yeah, it is. It feels too raw and too like, I don't know what I'm doing.

And I don't need you to tell me I don't know what I'm doing Yeah, exactly. I cannot hear that for me. Yes Well, I'll get that from Lauren like I will write something and then my my biggest problem will be if it's if you just say nice things If you just go like like like Lauren will attest to this for sure like she'll read something and then I'll go like What do you think she goes like? Yeah, I liked it. I really like What else though, you know, like I like it yeah, I liked it. I really liked it. Oh, and I'll be like, well, what else though? You know, like, I liked it is like, I'm like, I can't listen to it. I liked it. What didn't you like? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How are you, Janie?

I think like, well, I feel like I'm, I'm wondering if this is something you guys crave because I think this is something about myself that I don't express, which is I'll get excited about doing something about myself that I don't express, which is I'll get excited about doing something or an idea I'm working on, and then I'll express it to Paul. And I wish that he became instantly invested in it and was my cheerleader on it instead of being like, oh my gosh, that's so great. I'm so happy for you, which is wonderful and supportive to say, but like,

like sometimes I just wish like he would just become like my writing coach or something. Yeah. You know, like, did you, did you get your pages done today? Like you said, or you know what I mean? Because it's like, it's not important to him in the sense that it's important to me other than it's important to him that I'm happy with what I'm doing, if that makes sense. Yeah. But he's not invested in the sense that it's important to me other than it's important to him that I'm happy with what I'm doing, if that makes sense.

But he's not invested in the product because it's not his thing, you know what I mean? So I do. I really do, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, because I always feel like I get the want, yeah, you go like, now can you take it over? Yeah. Like I'll kind of do like, so you like it,

so what do you like? And then I'll do exactly the thing you say you like. I have such a problem with authority. This is kind of my specific thing. My mom is like that. If he said that to me, I would be so upset and angry. Oh, you would. You don't tell me what to do.

Whoa. I like it. Like, it's, you know. Like you would react. Like you would rebel. I would be rebelled. Yeah, there's something just like, I can't, like I need space and like, that's just like how I am.

But not to say that I 100% need deadlines and I need, I am good with having a producer and I need that, but to me it's hard if it's my husband. I get that. I could totally see that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just really wanna briefly say that I had my eyes dilated

and I am wearing sort of a blue blocker kind of film. So that I can- You're wearing like two sets of things. And I really admire you admitting this. I thought you weren't going to admit it. Cause I'm looking at you guys and you are all in shadow. And this is a very interesting podcasting. And we're looking at you with these dark cover, like you're like, there's like dark alien

eyes. Yeah. I just keep thinking she thinks she's so cool. And I think that you guys don't want your faces being shown and that you are on the lam. You're willing to have your voices. Yeah. But you don't want to, you're anonymous.

Including Chevin, and it's weird. I feel it's a different, I've never podcasted in this way. Yeah, it's like different. It reminds me of like, if you were a musician or something, or like we were doing like, We Are The World, and you're like TV wonders. Yes, I know exactly. Yeah, yeah.

Did you guys watch the We Are The World documentary? It was so good, I loved it. I really liked, oh, and you like TV wonders. Yes, I know exactly. Yeah, yeah. Did you guys watch that? We are the world documentary. It was so good, I loved it. I really liked, oh, and Quincy Jones died. RIP. And just Lionel Richie, like how much he was doing. I know. And clearly, I'm sure, so much Coke.

To be able to do that to host the Grammys, then do that right after. I know, and like, yeah, Coke was like a big thing then. You can feel it in the air. But we don't have it now. Like, it would just be like fentanyl. Yes the whole like and then they'd all die I was just gonna say it's all about how many people weren't able to make it because they passed Yeah, yeah, like I wonder like I sometimes I like long for those golden age Moments of Hollywood like what was it like?

Yeah, but I can't even do we like weed doesn't work work for me. Like it's not, I can't do anything. You can't do it. I was microdosing solidly for like a year. And then at one point I was- Microdosing on? Oh, sorry, mushrooms. Oh yeah. Oh wait, so wait, like how?

Like what is that? I was taking it by gummies and you know, it's illegal. So is this all right? Is it illegal? I feel like there's like all these companies in California that do that now. Yes, but they're illegal. That is really illegal? I feel like there's like all these companies in California that do that now. Yes, but they're illegal.

That is really illegal? Yes. But they advertise on Instagram. I know. And that's illegal? And you have to go through, you have to follow them and then you have to do certain things.

Yes. Because there's like loopholes to get the stuff. I won't say that I went through all of this, but huh. You know, you know. Wait, I don't, okay. So they're hoping for it to be legalized. They're getting ready for it to be legalized, but it's not. So then when you take some doses,

I mean, it's sort of a free for all. Even though they have great graphics. Sometimes you would take a gummy and then it would be different than a different day when you took it, because it was not the same. Well, it's that. And then by the way, during, as I was coming out of the pandemic,

it was great because it lifted, I was so depressed. It lifted me. Well, they say there's studies that it can combat depression and PTSD, like veteran, like they've done stuff with that. Yes, yeah. And then I think maybe I was doing what I've been told, again, not by doctors, by friends,

that I was like, I did it for too long or something. Cause at one point I like was, I mean, it was the perfect time. I was like, I did it for too long or something. Cause at one point I like was, I mean, it was the perfect time. I was like video with my therapist. And then I was talking to her and I was like, Donna, the wallpaper is melting. Like wallpaper is melting right now. She's like, it's okay, let's be here.

Let's be here. What is feeling? What are you feeling? So wait, did she know that you were doing it? Yes, she knew. Okay. And then she asked for the info for her other clients. Uh-huh.

For her clients. And then. And I'm so interested in this. So like you felt like it lifted your mood and then at some point it didn't? Then it started to get trippy, which was, I'm not interested in that. Which is what you don't want.

And which it says it won't do as well. Yeah, well it says. Was it like a buildup or like a cumulative? Maybe it was a buildup, but like they do some decide it's like one to two Which is what you don't want and which it says it won't do as well But like they do some decide it's like one to two just kind of feel higher and then like eat nine pieces So you see God? Oh Read the I mean, I've never done this I swear but I've never Know I love microdosing as well, but I didn't know about any of what you're saying right now. I literally did not know about it. For some reason I was like, oh, I guess that's illegal in California.

Because it's, it was like, it's so bad, especially in our town. Yeah. Like it's so bandied about. Yes, exactly. I heard people just talking about it all the time or people talking about it on podcasts that I listened to. Yes. I did mushrooms in college times, I think.

Yeah, in the actual mushrooms. Yeah, they were like nasty and they made me really nauseous. Yeah. Is that a thing? Was it microdose? No, this was deliciously fruity. Yes, yes. Yeah, you don't taste it at all.

But you don't get nausea. You're not taking the actual mushroom. It's already been sort of processed, if you will. Okay, but there's no nausea. No, I didn't have any nausea. If there were any, I would have been like, no, I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking all. You're not taking the actual mushroom. It's already been sort of processed. OK, but there's no nausea.

No, I didn't have any nausea. If there was any nausea, I wouldn't do it. Like, I can't. I can't. I don't do roller coasters. I'm not going to see me in a Tilt-A-Whirl. Go ahead, Mike. Well, my feeling is, yeah, I think we're all doing a great job of not interrupting. There's there's a lot where it's right on the.

There's too much listening. We're better. We're better than the original three. We like each other. Mike, I like you. Jamie, let me interrupt you. I like you. I like you. I like you.

I like us. I like this. I feel like I love the psychedelic sort of or psychotropic effect basically. So I go like with the microdosing, I go, oh, I guess there won't be any of that. But if a little bit of that did sneak through, that would be awesome.

So wait, so you want the wallpaper to melt? Yeah, oh yeah. But aren't you worried about being around the kids though? Like, cause they can't have a little bit on the edges. It would have to be like a pretty unbelievable dose, I feel like at this point in my life. Like I've done so many, I've done so much rooms in my life. Now the truth comes out.

That I sort of go like, I would have to go so far beyond anything I could accidentally do. Wow, for real. He's gonna do a chocolate. Mr. Bunny sized. I've taken insane amounts of it in the past. You're about to have a goody bag when you leave here. Oh my God.

Oh great. Well, I also in college, I did LSD and I really liked it a lot and it was the 90s and I don't know if they make that hallucinogen anymore because all the guys from the 60s who made those 90s hallucinogenics all like went to jail sure and so that those like I imagine it would be way crazier now any any form I don't know in a bad way. It's upsetting to me. There's a couple things that I do Venn diagram with Joe Rogan

and it is the it's the Well, the, the spirit, the spirit molecule. I don't listen to Joe Rogan. I don't either. I don't either. Yes, definitely go on record. I've seen clips, but I don't know what his deal is. Like he likes mushroom or he likes.

So like I can't. Alternative things. Yes. And so I'm a big, okay. So it's the DMT, LSD, ayahuasca, spirit, I don't think I would ever do ayahuasca. You know, you have to barf, right? No, you must sometimes. Yes. And double dragon, as I call it. I was going to say, coming out of the other side. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah.

That sounds incredible to me. Just reset it all. No. I guess if you're going to get- Jess, you're so human to be just, you're still just goosing and gushing out of it. But also, like, schedule your colonoscopy for the next day. Or no, beforehand, so that it's cleaner coming out, I think. I was going to say two birds, one stone. Why not? Yeah, do you think if you went in for a colonoscopy

after doing ayahuasca, they would go like, did you do ayahuasca or something? Like they could tell. They're like, did you just have an ego death? This looks amazing. Because your colon is so clean. Your colon is like ego death clean. Guys, let's all do ayahuasca together.

I cannot, I'm not gonna do it. I could, I swear like- If we're all shitting, it's not a big deal. No, exactly, it changes it. I just like- And consider how much better that would be than if I just did ayahuasca Well all of you guys watch That would not be good for me at all. That would be so hard

Make your trip really bad and you would be like, oh my gosh But I almost think if you with some types of trips It's almost like if you make it really bad, then when you come out on the other side, now it's like, yes. Everything's great, like your life is wonderful. I think so. But I was raised Catholic, so it might be that kind of thing.

But you were, my feeling for me, and this is just a vibe, because I can't really see you, you're dark, that I feel like you are able to kind of like let it go. That's true. Like to lean into it, and sometimes I fight it. Oh yeah. And I want to control it, which is exactly why I should do it

except this time that I'm telling you about. Which is like, I got to not. When the wallpaper was melting. Yeah. And then it was in therapy. She's like, let's work with it. And then she's like, what are you feeling? What are you seeing?

And then I just like, on the most basis level, I was like, I feel like I'm in, and to start to describe, but with like, uh, vibe. Yeah, yeah. This was like, I'm like I've been and just started to scribe, but with like, ah, five weeks where I was basically like, I'm inside of a mushroom and it's enveloping me. And yeah, I don't know, I saw Scott, he's gonna be so mad. Cause what if I can't go see John Wick? That would be my end.

I'm like, he's gonna be mad cause I can't see John Wick. And I just started to cry. Oh my God. Well, I did have, I had an ex hairdresser that said that she had a shaman in Glendale. Uh-huh. Who would lead on like a ayahuasca? Yeah.

I couldn't be in Glendale and have an ayahuasca trip. So I swear to God, like if you go on Yelp, you can look up shamans near me. One of my close friends who I think I shouldn't say his name, he used to be Josh Randner's assistant. And so I remember calling him and being like, hey, what are you up to? He's like, oh, I got to go put tarps down at Josh's house.

For the eye wash and the trip? For, yeah. For the vomit and the shh. Because Josh and some of the waiters from Cafe Gratitude are going to be doing eye wash. I'm sorry, I cannot take that. I love a thing like that. No. It's just the most, LA, every detail is so LA. I'm sorry. I cannot. I love a thing like that. It's just the most L.A.

Every detail is so L.A. I go, oh, the guy from that show with the waiters from that of all places, from that restaurant. If I were going to have to do this, which I'm not going to do, that would be my least favorable. Yes. Conditions. I want to tell you, when I go to Cafe Gratitude, I'm always, immediately, I'm voiding

my body. Yeah. Exactly. That does happen. It happens very quickly. I am not a Cafe Gratitude fan, but that doesn't mean that I judge anyone who goes there. I won't do their little game. I won't say the menu thing.

I act like I don't know. I am Grace. I am love. And that's like the burrito. Come on. Yeah, just say like burrito. I act like I'm from out of town. I don't know how to do the thing. I'm the burrito, please.

That's what I do. Well guys, we're gonna take a little break and have a commercial, but we'll be right back with all of our thoughts on ego death. Freedom! Spousal takeover! Beautiful. I checked on them in the closet and they're fine.

Yeah, they sounded fine. I thought like the screaming, I was like, well then they have energy to scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, they're still pretty energetic. They can't move their arms. Did you, I tied their hands. Yes, yes. I heard them describing that you were not doing

a great job tying. Oh, but who's the piss pigs now? Yeah, exactly. Exactly! Can't wait for that sweatshirt. I have a shroom story that I would like to tell. Please tell. Which was, so like, when I was a few years,

like deep into my chess, like obsession basically, Wait a minute, you like chess? I did not know that you were not in your- I'm trying to retire, I'm trying to retire. I'm on the downward. I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm trying to get out of it. I was joking, I didn't want that for you.

It's too much time, It's too much time. It's too much time. And I like notice, you know when you notice yourself always like opening up like Instagram or something, you go like, I gotta take a beat. I'm like always opening that one up. For me, it's like, it's always these two chess apps and I just want to not.

Like I want to just be free. So you felt like it was too much of a, it was too habitual. It's literally like anytime I have like any negatives where I go like, oh, fuck that. Then I always will go open up the chess app. And I'm sort of just like negatives where I go, oh fuck that, then I always will go open up the chess app and I'm sort of just going like I'm really relying on that. And it's getting to a point where I don't want to be doing that.

But it could just be an IRL thing that you love. Most likely. I'm trying to keep it to the IRL. So I signed up to do the Las Vegas International Chess Open. I think this was in like 2022, I wanna say. And I was way worse at chess then. Like it was kind of insane that I signed up to do that. It was like a thing where other people

also said they were going to. And then as we approached, then no one else signed up. And I was like, so I'm going alone? No one's gonna go do this? Yes. I've done this to me before. Yeah. But then you go like was like, so I'm going alone? No one's gonna go do this? I can't. You've talked about this to me before. Yes. But then you go like, well now I have to go

cause I can't not go just cause none of them, whatever. Exactly, because then are you like a coward? Right, exactly. And I was quietly going like, they're all cowards. You're like, I'm a grown ass person. Yes. And I can go by myself and make friends there by myself. So I go there and I'm staying with like a family friend,

like a long time family friend of Lauren's, who lives in Vegas. Had you met this person before? Yes, I've met this guy before, he's great. Okay. And he basically was like, you can stay at my house, and my wife's vegan, like she'll cook you nice vegan sort of meals, whatever.

And you know, we'll have a good time hanging out. So we're hanging out, and the first night, he's like kind of walking me through his house, tells me I'm gonna be staying in this one room, and this guy, he's been sober for like 30 years, but he also like helps run this like huge weed company that's based in Las Vegas. And so we go into the room that I'm staying in,

and then he goes, oh yeah, and feel free to take any of that weed. There's this huge jar of weed on top of the dresser. And I was like, oh, okay. And he goes, and then those top two drawers are just full to the brim with mushrooms. So feel free to take any mushrooms you want as well. What? Like real mushrooms?

They actually are. Yeah. So I open it. They're like psychedelic. Like the nasty tasting ones. Yes. Yes. Like the actual plant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like all dried up, like ready to be consumed for your tripping needs, basically. Oh, like you're like for real about to trip. Yeah. And I was like, oh, really? I can just take any of this. He's like, yeah, I'll never touch any of it.

You know, feel free to take it. And he tells me the stories of different people who have stayed who gave him the mushrooms. And so I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, it was pretty nice. And so this is a tournament that's like four days long. So I go for the first day and it is like such I it's pretty depressing. I have to say, like it is in terms of like the like I played fine,

but it was sort of like the experience was sort of like more of like a, you're a cog in like a really indifferent massive machine kind of feeling, you know? Where I was like, oh, this is pretty depressing. So like subdued kind of. And like not fun. Like it was like, it didn't seem like people, and I'm sure that this is such a generalization.

Yes, but it was like, no one loved chess. It was, it was like, everyone was there to be like, I gotta get my rating up. And it was like, that was the singular focus. And so after my first day, I was pretty bummed. And I go back to the house that I'm staying at. And then I was like, I think tomorrow before I go, I'm just gonna take like a bunch of shrooms

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Wow. So mom really was this way or that, you know, I'm having these like realizations. Oh God, I guess I'm about to get checkmated here. Oh my God. But it was kind of this, it was a very freeing, extremely positive experience. I have to know when you took these mushrooms, did they make you nauseous at first? Yes, yes they did. The first morning, but then each of the successive mornings, I would just do more.

And I was just like, it was like, it just became negligible. Like for the last two days, it was like totally fine. Did your rating go up? I won exactly half of my games. But here's the thing for the chess nerds out there. I won all of my games as black, which is way harder. Oh, okay. You started this disadvantage.

And so it's kind of, you're almost like expected to win when you play white, cause you open first. So you start off with more tempo, as they say in chess. And so since you start off with a slight disadvantage as black, to win all your games as black is like pretty random. What is y'all's attitude about Vegas? Hate it.

Hate it. Really? Oh my God. I like to go, cause I, you love it. Like I like, cause my mom? You love it. Love it. Like I like, cause my mom's a horrible gambler. Yeah, yeah.

Horrible and then I was, I leave all that space so that could be filled in. Yeah, but. And just rounded it with gambler. And so like, I don't really have fun in that gambling aspect. I like the shows, I like to go out to eat, the pool, but like all that stuff generally I can do here.

So like, but you know, I mean, I saw the, you two in the sphere. That was a lot of fun. I was, I was going to say, cause I remembered that y'all went to the sphere and I kind of, I haven't been to the sphere yet, but I follow it online and I am like fascinated by it. I think it is beautiful. Is that weird?

You find it beautiful. I find it beautiful. And I feel like that's your overall opinion of Vegas. Like you like Vegas in general, cause I always feel like I would expect to like it. And then every time I'm there I'm like, this is so not for me. It is crazy.

Cause I used to work in the garment industry. So I would do the magic show, which is like, yeah, it's going to a convention. So I'd have to be there for like a week and like all the novelty like. Cause you're working. Yeah, and then you're in a convention center with that light and it's a process. You're not in the Disney,

you're not in the Disney adult Disney version. Yeah, and then you kind of see all of the demons. Like, as you're like. Yeah. I mean. You like see the way the demons. Like, as you like. I mean, yeah. You like see the way that it's like, like why there are restrictions on things.

You know, you go like, we shouldn't be able to smoke inside. I don't think we should smoke inside. I don't know, it's like a yard of rum is a good idea. It's just like traipsing about. I shouldn't be walking around with a foot tall vodka. You know, like I. Will I do it? Yes. Yes. I would. That's the with a foot tall vodka. You know, like I shouldn't. Yes. Yes.

That's the only way to survive there. If you're there, when in Rome. Yes. Of course. When in Rome, I don't know. I just, I don't know. You're talking about the Venetian, go ahead. Yeah, I mean that is exactly how I imagine Rome.

Everyone in there is just walking around saying when in Rome, making the worst decisions of their lives. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, when you find it beautiful is so interesting. in Rome making the worst decisions of their lives. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, when you find it, beautiful is so interesting. This. Yeah, I just find it. Vegas, not the sphere, but like just Vegas. OK, but your category, like because I know like you find Hawaii beautiful.

It's not the same view. No, that's natural beauty. That's natural beauty. Yeah. And I do appreciate natural beauty a lot. Definitely a lot. Cut that clip, everybody. However. She's on the record, guys.

She's taking a stand. I mean, not to be too controversial, but natural beauty, those two thumbs up. I'm not against it. I really against it. I really like it. But I don't know, like this fear to me is also, like to me it's like a man, it's like, I mean there's certain like manmade accomplishments

that blow my mind. Yeah, sure, absolutely. And I guess that to me that is, and I also like technology. So it's sort of like, I know, Elania. I did see someone posting from the Sphere and I had never heard of it. It is super cool. And didn't know anything about it.

And I thought it looked really beautiful. I wanna go. But then when I told the person, I didn't know what it was, they did that thing. People do this to me all the time, would they like really shame you for not knowing something? You've never heard of the Sphere? Oh yeah, that thing.

And they like couldn't let it go. I was like, no, I'm sorry. I don't like go to live music. I never go to Vegas. I'm sorry, I've never heard of the Sphere. Oh yeah, that thing. And they like couldn't let it go. I was like, no, I'm sorry. I don't like go to live music. Yeah. I never go to Vegas. I'm sorry, I've never heard of it. When I open my phone, it's the two chest abs. Yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to get away from those. Wait, you know, like when people go like, what? You never blah, blah, blah. I hate it so much. Like you've never seen the Godfather. Like sometimes I find myself doing it ironically because I know it's annoying. Like as like a thing.

Do it to me right now. OK. Yeah. But what would it be? What is it? I don't know. You never you never listen to three down. You never like. So it's got to be like a kind of like a niche name. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Never. Like never? Uh huh. Really? It's such like a classic, someone is clearly trying to bully you type of thing. Yeah, yeah. Where you go like, let it fucking go. I'm sorry, I've never seen the Godfather. Yeah, right? I don't know, like it's, yeah.

But then I have so many friends with so many blind spots. Sometimes it makes me laugh to be like, what? I would just never do it. I just, it's like a thing where whatever someone's doing, I'm like, why? It I would just never do it. I just, it's like a thing where whatever someone's doing, I'm like, why or who cares? It's stupid that I've done it. That's not what I'm saying at all. It's stupid.

I mean, like it's the instinct to do it. Cause I do have the instinct. There'll be some movie I love or something. And then I'm like, you haven't seen Triangle of Sadness? And I like, can't let it go. But I'm just, I will catch myself and go like, stop. Well, I haven't seen it yet, Mike. It's really good.

You should watch it. It's really good. It's pretty unexpected. But isn't there some tough scenes there? Because I feel like I was warned. Oh, yeah. Only if you have a throw up thing that you're- There's a gross out scene in it.

I feel like you told me that. I was like, well, maybe I'll wait. I could not watch that scene. It was so unexpected to me that I just found it very funny. And then it goes on for so long. That was like, is this really happening in this movie? I just felt like it made me feel nauseous. Yes. Like this is coming up for you a lot.

Yes. And I don't have like a nausea thing at all. So I apologize. I brought it up to two things. Even just like in general, like movie like violence or things or, you know, very like like, extreme things in movies, like, make me, like, sometimes I just have to, I can't see it. I can't look at it. Yeah, I mean, I can do I can do violence, but it can't be under the horror genre. Yeah, really.

Like I mentioned John Wick. I'm like, great. And but I'm moving my head around, like I'm also getting beat. But you can do John Wick. Yes. Yeah, because it's almost like the violence becomes so cartoonish that you're like, yeah! Get that barrel of that gun through his skull.

Like, it's so insane. Not even a gun. It's like a pencil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, right, right, right. Or like, down the drain. Stab someone in the hand or something. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Rambo and just removing the throat from like. Yeah. Yeah. But when it gets into like torture porn. That's tough for me. I really, yeah, same, same. It's like hostile and stuff.

I actually didn't finish Baby Reindeer because I could feel the rape coming. And I was like, I don't wanna do this. I couldn't really start to feel it. There's something's's happening and I don't, I can't right now. Yeah, I really... It's really good, but... It's a, it's a challenging watch. Especially, yeah, because of the sexual assault. But anyways, freedom!

Freedom! Freedom, guys. Freedom. Sexual assault, freedom. It's like a result on freedom. Plastic conversation, they're always hitting these. Analysis from all sides. Yes. Well, what happens when there's a law? I think they will have a joke that they, like I recently, I listened to like a one

where they play like an older one and they all say boop. And then they say, did you hear a boop? I heard that one too. Yeah, that was the one I was listening to as I drove here. And I was like, I love that game. I want to play that. I want to just start saying boop all the time. So I think they would have said boop during that.

And then someone would say, did you say boop? Boop. Yeah. So boop. That feels nice. Is this what 3Dumb listeners want? Is like a meta 3Dumb analysis where we talk during that and then someone would say, did you say boop? Boop. Boop. Yeah. So boop. That feels nice. Is this what 3Dumb listeners want? Is like a meta 3Dumb analysis where we talk about

what they might do? Yeah, yeah. We're retargeting. Now I imagine Lauren would probably tell a story here about her gymnastics class from when she was in grade school. Oh yeah. I was thinking though, like when Cool Up was mentioning working in Vegas, like I don't know if Mike knows

but that Cool Up and I did work at MBAR together. I did not know that. I mean, I was there for a really long time, but you would come in and do bartending and stuff. Yeah, the bartenders taught me how to bartend because they did not want to work the open mic. Cause they would not get tipped. But I did okay.

Cause you know. I feel like you'd be a good, you have like a good bartender sort of like style. Yeah, she did. Like you would be interested, but not that interested. But I remember like, were you working at like PF Chang's? Yeah, I've done so many.

And then you ended up like, well, and were you around at all during M Bar time? Hey, no, no, it's not something I've heard of, no. Okay, this is how cool up and I know each other, yeah, actually. Is there was this how cool up and I know each other actually, is there was this bar in Hollywood on Hollywood and Vine. Was it Hollywood and Vine? Yes, I think so.

Vine and fountain actually. Sorry, fountain and Vine. By old Iowa West, by the bones of where that is? Not too far, but not on Hollywood, but actually Vine and fountain. Oh, oh, I see. It was like in a strip mall there. And so just to rewind, this is like,

I guess a little bit of comedy history. So back in the early aughts, this guy, Joe, he- Rogan? No. Oh, oh, oh. He was an actor I knew. And he ended up starting this restaurant, this club in the strip mall. And he built like a little performance venue in it.

So kind of give a cabaret vibe. That's what he hoped for, right? Yeah, and he, cause of the Yale cabaret. He went to Yale drum school and the Yale cabaret was doing stuff out here. I see. And one of the first plays I did out here was with the Yale Cabaret crew.

And then he opened this venue and then built this stage on it. And it sort of attracted all of these like guerrilla acts because it was like free to do stuff there. And on Tuesday nights, they had alternative comedy, like for years. For years. Yeah, that was the birthplace of Comedy Death Ray. Comedy Bay made Comedy Death Ray. I think I was like at every show, cause I worked every show.

Cause you worked it, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then Monday nights was like. Open mic. Open mic, yeah. Which is, you know. And then the other nights were like rotating. Really fun.

Really fun, and then I remember someone like. Open mic nights were the worst nights. Yeah, of course, of course. It's the worst night in LA anytime. Yeah, absolutely. It was like the worst night. The worst. And then I remember someone ordering a rusty nail

and I was like, one second. Did you get your little book out? Your little book. La la la la la la la la la la. Well, I can't see. It's too dark in here. But it was not the kind of place that you would order a rusty nail.

No. It was like the kind of place that you would order a rusty nail. No. It was like a red velvet blanket, like blackout curtain. Okay food. Yeah, like you could get by on the margarita pizza there. Yeah, that was good. That was good.

Yeah, and then, and just this like rotating act. And it was kind of fun. And that's where you met Paul, right? No. Sort of. Oh, okay. I met Paul through other channels cause he was doing a show at Largo,

which was on Fairfax at the time. And then I didn't meet him at MBAR, but he started coming to MBAR. To do shows and stuff. To do shows there after we met because he knew Scott from back in the day. Mr. Show days. From Mr. Show days.

But I like knew you guys before I knew Paul. And then, yeah, so that was- You didn't marry me? I didn't marry Scott. It's kind of an indictment on you. I know. I get it. But like everyone was always like there all the time.

Yeah, it was a hangout. Cause it was like, so there was the Haiti of Largo in the old location, Fairfax, and then it kind of got like too expensive. And so then MBAR kind of was like a response, another location for alternative. Yeah, and it was like also like, yeah, like served more the East side, I guess.

That's true. Yeah, instead of having to go all the way to Fairfax. But it used to be like the hub for a moment in time. This is pre-UCB, pre-Meltdown. Yeah, because probably, I don't know, 2013, maybe 14. But I mean, I don't know. I, Paul and I moved away, like for a year. So it was so when you went to New York.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we've known each other for a very long time We probably met in like 2002 or three. Yeah sounds about right. Yeah, like over 20 years ago. So crazy I like that though. Don't you feel don't you like like like being in LA and kind of you find your people and then Well, especially because it's so spread out. It's so Isolating even there's so spread out. It's so isolating. I mean, there's so many people because there's no real community centers. And we were just talking about how things just get created as centers.

And so they say something like, you know, if you're friends with somebody for like seven years, you're gonna be friends for life. Like, is that true? Yeah, I've never heard that. And I think. It sounds true though. You know, you know, you know that kind of thing.

Or you go, that sounds about right. Especially when you're like so far beyond high school and college where you sort of, like you have to choose. Yeah. And then like their presence is like necessary. It's like a dependable thing where you go like, well, of course, like, yeah, I have people where they're a close friend, but we won't talk for like

five months, you know? And then I go, oh yeah, how are you? You know, and then we'll chat, whatever. It was like, yeah, it never, and then we'll chat, whatever. It was like, yeah, it never goes. Unless they're horrifyingly toxic and refuse to get help for themselves, I would say that.

I know who you're talking about. I was gonna say. It is not me, I know that's what you're thinking, everybody listening. Then I would say that the seven year thing has definitely held true for me. And yeah. I just think there's a lot of crap people in this town.

And when you find your people, you hold onto them. And even just you saying that right now made me realize that I need to reach out to a friend. I just had one, I was like, oh, I should reach out to him as well. Yeah, and you know, in a Trump America, I think that's important that we think locally and you know, people we love and reach out to them.

This is what I've been thinking is like the just strengthening of our connections, the strengthening of our community and just kind of like leaning into what we do artistically right now and making that our like soul focus because that is activism in a way. Well, I've also the results of the election have made me feel sort of generally like paranoid

in the as far as like my connection to the rest of America goes, where I just go like, you guys are all like we're on the minority side of what is normal and decent here. Holy shit. It could just crazy. I know that is true. It does feel like is that oppression too Is like just being scared to find out what people are all about. Yes. I don't know.

I do feel like I don't ever want to read a poll ever again for as long as I'm alive. Yeah. I mean, I also feel like comedy right now is, it's going to be so needed. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Although I remember when he won in 2016, I remember everyone going like, and now we're gonna make the best art ever for four years. And I was sort of like, I think we didn't. Wait, I was gonna say, what happened in 2016? What was the big art of 2016? Yes, exactly. Like what was it?

It's like Brendan Gleason playing Trump in a HBO show or something. Yeah. It's brand new, yeah. Wow, that's kind of depressing. But then we had COVID and we couldn't do stuff. So maybe that was the wrinkle. Yeah.

But we did get in just like that. Oh, yes, that is what we got. That's what we earned. I do feel like it actually was the return of tons of reboots, actually. That's what we earned. I do feel like it actually was the return of like tons of reboots actually. Like I think that's when the reboot, like what a fucking waterfall began. It was like everything 20 years later.

I'm working on a reboot today. I did a voice on a cartoon called Regular Show. Oh yeah. They've rebooted it and I'm going there after this recording to record. That's amazing. Yeah I know I was a part of a voiceover reboot. Yeah Velma and everyone universally hated that Oh, did they really? Oh, yeah

Very invested in Scooby-Doo I was gonna say the way that they care about these sort of things like what was the cast with like the main with their issues The way that they care about these sort of things, what was the, can I ask what the main, what their issue is? Yeah, what was the issue? Well, it's cause Mindy Kaling is the voice and it was focused on her and she was, I think it started to feel very racist. Oh, simply.

These things or the fact that there's a gay character in Lightyear and people care, I'm like, why are you, what is for, who gives a fuck? What is wrong with you? It's such a bizarre thing to care about these things. Like it's a cartoon for kids. Why are you like, why was like there was the thing too with like the little mermaid or they're like, she can't be black. It's a made up character that is magical.

I am into cryptozoology. Wait, like was there a whole thing that- You right now have the posture of someone who's really into cryptozoology. What is cryptozoology? I don't even know what that is. Basically cryptids. Which are-

What is that? Like Bigfoot, Loch Ness. Like Supercobra. Yeah, and a trillion you haven't heard of. Do you mean like animals that are like sort of like yes. Yes How long they didn't think the platypus was real Every time I see like a reddit video of like a bigfoot caught on a rain camera It's so obviously a dude in an outfit. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of fake news out there,

but that doesn't mean there's... Okay. So if there was a real one... See, I'm more apt to believe in aliens. The aliens are walking among us. Oh, yes. Of course. Honestly, I want them to come out. That's a gateway. That's a gateway to Crystal's biology. We're made of stars. Hey, we're made of stars. I believe that the aliens are definitely here. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm done with that as well. I'm done. And that being said, let's take a quick commercial break here.

Oh, I thought we'd go deep into it. Oh my God. I was abducted. Okay, for our three-cher, we're going to be playing No More Jockeys submitted by John. Oh, thank you, John. Thanks, John. Okay, here is how it is explained in the note that I'm reading from. On each turn, players name a person plus a category they fall under. That person and category are then eliminated, and subsequent people must not fall under that category.

As more categories are added, it gets harder and eventually impossible to name anyone new. First to name someone who falls into a mentioned category loses. Players can challenge anyone's answer at any time. Example, Kanye West, no more rappers. Sherlock Holmes, no more detectives.

Werner Herzog, no more Germans. I could start. Okay. I think it's just to give an idea. So, Billie Eilish, no more singers from California. Mm. Oh. And so you go a little more, like now we could, I can still name a singer,

but they just can't be from California. Yeah. But then could I go, like I name, like I, now I'm scared that this person would be from California. Who's definitely not from California. So I say Bruce Springsteen, but then can I go no more musicians?

Yeah, let's try that. You know, kind of go more broad or less broad? What do you? Let's do it, let's move on. All right. Thank you. Keith Raniere, no more cult leaders. Connie Chung, no more journalists.

Okay, I see. Okay, this is pretty fun. Let's think then. So I'll go Jackson Pollock. No more painters. Ooh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, That makes sense. That makes sense. I would have guessed that too. Marie Currie. No more people who died from a radium. Yeah, no more people who died from a banky mic. That's an assist. Okay. That's the Punisher. No more comic book characters.

Oh, OK. OK. OK. Oh, OK. Is there a timer on the Billy Idol? No more. metal music. But didn't we go no more musicians? Oh shit. Oh shit, you're right, I'm out. You went that way.

Yes. Yes, I lost. It was a long trap. So now you and I go back and forth? Yeah. Okay. Chester the Cheetah, no product of mascots. Ooh.

Okay. It's weird because when you say it, then now that is all I'm thinking of. That's all you wanna say. You wanna say Captain Crunch so bad. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Okay. It's weird how you like run out of people.

It is, like you can't think of a person to save your life kind of. Yes. Okay. Truman Capote, no more authors of true crime. Oh, okay. Uh, uh, Ryan Murphy. No more showrunners who exploit true crime.

Oh my God. Okay, oh, uh, okay, wait. Oh my God. Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, okay, wait. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say the physicist Brian Cox, but then I'm gonna say no more people who share names with other famous people. Oh, because that's all, because right away I wanted to go,

ba-da-ba-ba-ba. Yes, I'm loving it. That's your Brian Cox. That's your Brian Cox. You're not a serious person. Everyone's playing their game. Do you think he gets free McDonald's? He has.

I feel like the answer is no. He has to pay? I feel like nobody gets like good perks like that anymore. I feel like no one's getting free anything anymore. The Binks is a value meal though. He gets free value meals. Yeah, maybe a value meal. But then they say it's like because he's a senior citizen. He probably got a hoodie. I bet maybe a value meal. But then they say it's like, cause he's a senior since.

He probably got a hoodie. Oh wow. I bet there was a hoodie. Maybe a water bottle. Yeah. Okay. So, oh man. Okay. Um, uh, Christopher Columbus, no explorers. Oh, but actually, wait, I think this lets me win because Christopher Columbus is also the name of a director. Fuck!

Wait, fuck! Fuck! Wow! It is! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!

That was really fun. Did that director, did that director? Harry Potter. Harry Potter is the only credit I know that he did. Wait, he's done a bunch of kids' movies like that. Yes, yes, probably unaccompanied miners Remember Well, cuz um cuz we're friends with Padgett who was in it. Oh, no, we're name-dropping. Well, I'm friends with them

On a company miners trapped in an airport. Like you're always like doing it. It's like a thing. Well see, this is an insight into their marriage that I did not expect. Yes, that was unexpected. This isn't even in our like group text chain. There's like never been a mention of this song. It's a different text chain.

Wow. You know, the other day I realized that I'm on like four. We have like one really social neighbor. Like he's like always talking to all of the other neighbors and I'm like a really anti-social neighbor. Like I never want to interact with anyone. Yeah.

And they'll always get me onto a text thread. People always get me onto one. And then Lauren's always like, I should be on that. I feel like you're never going to respond, but I should be on that one. But recently we realized that then these neighbors, along with our other neighbors, were on a text thread with them.

And I realized that we're the offshoot thread. They're definitely on like a real text thread. And we're the outsiders on this other thread. I like suddenly realized, I was like, they definitely have one that we're not on. You're only on the chain where it's like, they left their can, you know, the guys are coming to take the cans tomorrow.

We're on the chain where we all talk about this one really odd neighbor that we all share basically. And so we're on one with them where they're bringing us in to talk about that, but we're not in on like the, we're all actually friends thread is my guess. I can't wait till someone accidentally texts that chain thinking it's the other. I have a lot of fear about doing that.

I haven't done it, but I have done like a like on someone's old Instagram picture, like a friends X that I was going like, what is that person doing? Yeah, I did that pretty recently. And now I'm in a text thread called liked by Mike Castle. And it's like everyone, they always talk about how I liked this one picture by accident.

That's mortifying. It was pretty bad. It was pretty bad. Can't you take it back and it's fine? She, this person, it was like a person I hadn't spoken to in so long. And it was basically, I like heard that they were getting divorced, these two people.

And then I was like, oh wow, what's that person been up to? And I went liked whatever. And then I was like, oh my God, I just liked it. And then I unliked it. And then she instantly followed me and DM'd me. I was like, oh my God, I just liked it. And then I unliked it. And then she instantly followed me and DM'd me. And I was like, oh, well, God damn it. Is this just a me problem? But I feel like I would often go to Instagram and stuff

to like find out the story on somebody, like what's going on. And I feel- I did that this morning. Yes, go ahead. But I feel like people aren't sharing as much. Yes. Although, you know, then you gotta change your deductive reasoning tools here.

Cause I agree personally, I always, I can understand nothing. I feel like Lauren is always deducing all this stuff where you're like, how did you even figure that out? And it's, you know, based on a story or a thing. She's a digital Sherlock Holmes. Yeah, she really, yeah, she sees all the things. Yeah, like the homeland.

There's a tan line on there. The mustard on her sleeve, dear boy. That could only mean, oh. I feel like I've done that and filled in the blanks. And then when I find the real story, it's not even close. Although have you ever had one where then it turns out, my only sleuthing I ever do is I go, I think those two people secretly broke up.

And then it is eventually confirmed. You're like, huh, nice. I figured that out. I figured that one out. Interesting. Interesting, look at us. Maybe, yeah, I'm gonna have to, if I need some information,

I'm definitely gonna send it to Lauren. I was gonna say, send it to Lauren, because I love to watch her work. Okay. She'll open the case right up, start to investigate. Yeah, she yelled at me more than anyone about my accidental like, on that first thing. She was like, that is such a rookie thing to investigate. Yeah, she yelled at me more than anyone about my accidental like, she was like, that is such a rookie thing to do.

That does not represent the household. I know, I know. It does not represent the household. I know, it was sloppy. The household has been represented poorly. Absolutely poorly. Well, this was really fun and I would argue the best episode of Freedom ever.

Oh my God. You'll find no disagreement for me, sir. And I think on our like like piss pig sweatshirts, like if Kinship does them, they can be the, cause I have a all of Kinship sweatshirt that's tie dye. Oh, we should do tie dye. With all the shrooms that you're not doing and he is doing.

That's what I'm saying. It should be like. It should be tie dye and then three piss pigs and they're tied up in a bathroom. Thank you. And then, who's the piss pig now? Who's the piss pig now? Yeah, yeah.

Oh my God, this is gonna be the best. I love it. Thank you for listening. Thank you for having me. And thank you, Shevin. Thank you, Shevin. Thank you, John, for the three-cher. Thank you, listeners.

Thank you, piss pigs. Thank you, Scott. I love you sochair. Thank you, listeners. Thank you, piss pigs. Thank you, Scott. I love you so much. You're the light of my life. Thank you, Paul. I never could have achieved this without you. Thank you, Lauren. I love you so much.

This sounds so mean, like we don't love our spouses. Yeah, we're mocking the idea of really loving them. Love our spouses. They love you. mocking the idea of really loving them. Love our spouses. I love you. And that's really weird. I love you so much. You're so funny and cool.

It's not just your body I like, it's your personality. I love your personality. Oh my God, that's so funny and mean. I don't know what to think. But that's how I feel. It's just my voice. What? I'm so grateful. Oh my God.

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