Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - 2024 in Review: The Year in Bad Takes & Unforgettable Moments + Justin Kroll’s 2024 Film Awards
Episode Date: December 26, 2024As the clock ticks down on 2024, Matt and Jerry take a look back on the previous 365 days in sports through the lens of bad takes. We examine the takes that aged the worst and the teams that seemed m...ost likely to cause them. The guys also hand out their defining moments of the year and preview the sports stories that we’re most excited about in the year to come. Plus, Hollywood Insider for Deadline, Justin Kroll, joins to hand out his 2024 Film Awards and look ahead to some of the biggest projects getting ready to drop in 2025. Finally, in a special end-of-year edition of the Throwback 3, Matt and Jerry lay out their 3 resolutions for the New Year. New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/) A big thank you to our sponsors: Throwbacks is presented by Cash App That's Money. That's Cash App. https://cash.app/bank Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank. Wendy’s Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today https://wendys.com/nuggs NHTSA NHTSA Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over. Paid for by NHTSA. https://bit.ly/46ZF9nM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The year we talked about doing this episode where we do a year in review, which a lot of people do.
So we wouldn't be the first to do it, but we're certainly not going to be the last. But when we were talking, it became, you know,
instead of just pointing to the things we know were so amazing, like Dodgers or the Knicks,
why don't we take a look back of 2024 and find what went wrong? The freezing cold takes and big shout outs to the account on Twitter or X or whatever you call it these days.
Freezing cold takes or at old takes exposed because that was a big resource for us.
But we're going to pull some of the freezing cold takes from 2024 and review them.
I'm laughing because so excited like there's it's so excited, but there's like just three or four dudes who just filled up like I'm like when you're like diving into this, you're like, oh, he said that. Oh, he said that again. Oh, this guy. There's like four or five guys. There's there's some good way. I don't even know where to start. I feel like personally, I'm going to start. I'm guilty of this because we on one of the very first shows, I think we did a bet about me saying the news. I'm going to start with a very good one. I'm going to, I'm guilty of this because we,
on one of the very first shows, I think we did a bet
about me saying the New York Jets were gonna make
the Super Bowl, I'm pretty sure, and we were talking about-
Did you say that?
No, I think I said they would have to make
an AFC Championship game for you to wear like a six year
jersey. Oh, that was the safest bet in the house.
It was the dumbest, and honestly, so I'm on record basically
as one of these idiots who had a freezing take.
I'm going to stay on that.
I'm just going to start this off with my boy, Peter Schrager.
OK?
Oh, no.
I love Schrager.
So Schrag's my dog.
And we'll get him to comment on this.
He's my boy.
I love Schrags.
On September 4th, in 2024 early in the season
Aaron Rodgers is my pick for the
2024 NFL MVP by the way
I'm sure there were hundreds of people who were gonna say that
What he's about to do for the Jets fans this season is something even he couldn't grasp or foresee
No, oh no, and he's what he's by the way
He's he's worn out this take all year for sure.
But that's my fun. I just cause I love Shregs. That's one of my takes.
I mean, how bad have the Jets been? It's just been bad.
It's arguably the freezingest of freezing takes.
It's by far the worst take of 2020.
Now, I'm going to dive into, before I do. I just want to say
this what I would like to see happen today is also it is an homage to the take because as much as
we're pointing and we're we're not clowning but we're pointing to what everyone screwed up.
I've even been a victim of the old takes exposed account. I've been I was brought up on charges.
I made some take at halftime of I don't even know if it was a Knicks game or something. I've been, I was brought up on charges. I made some take at half time of,
I don't even know if it was a Knicks game or something. I don't remember. And immediately
I got tagged 150 times at cold takes all that stuff. And I lobbied because I didn't think it
was a take. I just said, Oh, I'm just reacting. It's not, I'm not giving an opinion. And are,
are my friends at all takes exposed weighed in and they retracted the bad
What was your what was your take? I can't remember
It was something it was just something like a team was shooting real bad
It might have been the Knicks and basketball and I might have said something just like they're you know
Innocuous like there's just no way any team could win a game
Going three for 1024 from the three point line.
And that team went on to win.
It's like, I didn't say they were going to lose.
I said they continue to shoot this way.
They're going to lose.
And they didn't continue to shoot that way.
They heated up.
So I luckily they took me off that, but I'm going to dive into mine.
Well, what my first one, but I just want to say takes are like
performance art and there are a few Mount Rushmore people. I
found the same thing as you that wow. And I couldn't even
imagine if every single day, five days a week, the job is to
wake up and give a take. You know, you're on the road almost
half the year and you're not doing takes, right? So I respect
it. Before I give mine. Can I give the
one I want to hang in the Louvre as like a, this one should go all time. This is an all-timer and
it's from, it's from an all time goat. So this is not a 2024 thing, but yes, Colin cowherd,
who I respect because it's just him and the mic he does hours and hours a week by himself
spitting out takes but at halftime of the Patriots Falcon Super Bowl when the Pat when the Pats were down
28-3 he tweeted I screenshot this myself that I'm looking at
That from in the moment. He said I would hold off on trading Jimmy G
That was his tweet that halftime in the game. So he's
definite Mount Rushmore. Can I just follow that up on my Mount Rushmore? Yes, do it.
When Max Kellerman came out and said Tom Brady's fallen off a cliff, I believe it was July
18th. I looked this up July 18th. Kellerman had a couple at a couple falling. He might I think he went on to play for that's before he went to Tampa and then he won another Super
Bowl that by far Mount Rushmore of takes basically.
Well, my was 45 years old.
My first year of playing in the Super Bowl.
I think I was like, I'm not going to be able to play in the Super Bowl.
I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to play in the Super Bowl. I'm going to be like, I'm not going to be able to play in another Super Bowl. That by far. Mount Rushmore of takes basically.
Well, I was 45 years old.
My first take I want to give is from a football player.
And unfortunately, it's someone you know.
He also went to USC, but Caleb Williams texting fellow rookie punter
Torrey Taylor, hey, you're not going to punt
too much here. And lo and behold, the bears are, I think, tied for second overall in over
in total punts. So that's a free that wasn't even on frozen, frozen cold takes that just
was out there. So Caleb, you're on the list for 20. There's a lot. There's a lot of bears. Nick Wright. Nick Wright.
He's a he's a FS one colleague, Fox colleague, future Mount Rushmore.
Dude, he's already cold taker in August this year.
He basically picked the Bears to win the Super Bowl.
He picked them to win the Super Bowl.
I can't. I don't think in his right mind when he said that he actually believed that.
But that was one of his takes. And another one of his takes. I'm just gonna stay in the same vein here
And go to college football. He basically said when it comes to Colorado football
I'll take all the unders you want to sell me under wins yards blah blah blah
They're never gonna make a bowl game blah blah blah
And obviously prime and their son they went nine and three or they you know, they're gonna make a bowl game, blah, blah, blah. And obviously, Prime and their son, they went nine and three.
They're going to make a bowl game.
No, they made a bowl game.
Excuse me.
They were one game away earlier this year
to get to a Big 12 championship game.
So dead wrong on that one as well.
Yeah, Nick writes slow.
And again, respected.
He's on TV five days a week.
It's definitely ratings.
People watch just to see what he's going to say.
He's on the fast track to the Mount Rushmore. Mine, and this is a guy I love. Again, we're not
saying that these people aren't great at what they do. It's just you can't find out about the
take till a little bit after. Mike Greenberg of ESPN. Love Mike Greenberg. Also probably pretty
miserable because he's a big Jets fan.
But here's one of his freezing cold takes. Absolutely everyone is on Alabama tonight.
Absolutely everyone is never right. Give the points. Georgia. That was on September 28th.
We know that the final score was Bama 413 Mike Greenberg you make the list this year
there's some about oh you know as I was I was diving into this and this one
actually pissed off a lot of people I can't remember if we talked about on the
show or not but it was this year it was it was the Austin River saying he can
name 30 NBA players that could play in the NFL right now that was that was a
huge take dumb but dumb like a lot right now. That was, that was a huge take.
Dumb, but dumb. Like a lot of these takes are dumb, but that was just plain
dumb. And I have no problem saying that.
Who do you think, is there anyone that I know you don't watch, you watch
basketball when you can, you got a very, very busy life. Is there anyone in the
NBA that jumps out to you? It should be like, Oh, that would be a great, that
would be when someone says that they think he, that person could play football.
Someone says that they think of LeBron, right? Obviously, because he played high school football
and who admitted that he could not play football. Yeah, exactly. So like the point is, is you can't
just look at someone who's big, fast and strong and can jump high and just be like an athletic
and be like, Oh, they could play in the NFL. Like, it's just not, it's just like, it's just
because you can run fast and maybe you have good hand doesn't mean
like you just can't do it.
Like we saw Draymond Green in Michigan State
who's a great athlete, I think line up
for their spring game.
I think he even went out and said,
he was like, I want no business
getting tackled across the middle.
So, and honestly, like, and I wouldn't make the argument
that there's 30 NFL guys could play in the NBA.
I'm not that stupid.
Like I just, the crossover, it doesn't just automatically crossover. So, I mean, you've
had more guys like, obviously like Julius peppers Hall of Famer played, played at UNC
was good. Tony Gonzalez, Tony Gonzalez, these Antonio Gates, um, Graham, Jimmy Graham, Charlie
Ward literally was a Heisman trophy winner. And then, and then he actually went to play in the NBA for like, for your Knicks for like
15 years.
Yeah.
He's a point guard forever.
There's 30 guys.
I mean, that was the, that was honestly like, and that got a lot of, that got a lot of legs.
I always thought Russell Westbrook, I don't know if he cares of getting hit or not, but
just like, I could certainly see a world where Russell Westbrook was like a receiver, you
know, six, four. You seen like my home's tape and you've seen like, have you seen Travis
Hunter's highlights? I did. You know, I watched that last night and it's so
amazing and also discouraging and same breath. It's amazing because you're
watching him and it's like, how is this guy not considering the NBA? And it was
a highlight tape. So freak, but it's discouraging, because just like,
that is DNA that no one in my family's ever gonna get.
If we're talking cold takes, you gotta think right.
Coward, Kellerman, Skip.
Skip, I mean, Skip is.
Stephen A., Nick Wright is an up and comer.
He's looming.
Who's your all-time all time all time guy?
It's hard. Well, I give it to skip because he kind of he sort of helped create taking
you know, like takes but I mean, look, that's been going on the sports talk radio forever
too. But he made it performance are and hooked up with Stephen a the funny thing with skip
as as Barstool and PMT
did such an amazing job,
they made him relitigate his old takes
and he still got his fastball.
But the thing is-
He truly believes everything he says.
All you need to do, Matt, in my opinion is,
be right on one of these wild things.
Like if the Bears went to the Super Bowl,
Nick Wright has like two years of a victory lap
where he could now start saying anything
and he could hold that car.
Skip was, I think the only person I could recall
who was screaming about Tim Tebow, he deserves to start,
he should start, he's a great quarterback,
build around Tebow and the Broncos did and
they won some games and then they won that playoff game against the Steelers. He got
so much run out of that. So that's really the performance. If you just hit one of these
truly big takes, then you have a few years ahead of you of just, you know, you could
pull that card at any point.
I had, I didn't, it wasn't really a take, but I was thinking about this, like have I made,
because for me in college football, it's, it's, I, you try to be critical, but you're doing it in a
way where you're not like, like these are also kids. I also was a, well, I also was in their
shoes. I was an athlete. I was, I was the victim of probably ice cold takes, but I try and like,
you try and be critical, but
you do it in a positive way is the way I look at that. Now you got to be opinionated. You
got to do all these things. So there's one fan base in particular, and it wasn't, it
was kind of like yours. I don't, I don't think it would be, I wouldn't be charged with a
freezing take, but the minute Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma in the fashion that he did, really, really, really pissed off the Oklahoma fan base.
Yes. And they got a lot of little bad blood because, you know, I beat them by 50 back in the day and they're still upset.
Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. But so they were talking so much shit to me.
I'm like, why are you talking shit to me? I didn't do anything. Okay. And it was like going on for months
when when Lincoln came over. And it started to piss me off. I'm
like, all right, now, truthfully, I don't care what
they say about me online. But like, I was like, all right, now
I'm gonna just start engaging with these right. Let's do
this. Like, let's do this. So it wasn't necessarily a take. But
all I did all I did, they finished, I think six. I don't know the first year
They had a new coach Brett medibles who I love had nothing to do with him. They were bad
I just like three years ago
I think we're like four and a five and seven and all I did was like hashtag karma, right?
So I was just trolling right karma and and they're like, well, that's not what karma means and blah blah blah
And I tell you not and I was just saying like this is karma for you guys
Talking so much shit to me about USC and this was the first year Lincoln went 11 and 2 with Caleb Williams and
still to this day every week that USC loses my
X timeline is just hashtag karma from suitors
They they have been trolling me now for two straight years, dude.
It is the greatest thing.
So it doesn't stem from a take, but it is one of those things that has made a particular
fan pace not like me.
And all I basically respond is like, I just love living rent free in their head.
Like I just live rent free in their head.
I could care less.
And you got to keep that going.
That's not to me.
That's not, yeah, That's not even a take. That's just, that to me is the cool part of social media and sports where you could
have these interactions. It's a little hostile, but it's online. They're so serious. They're so,
they're so like to respond and like they need to know that like I genuinely do not care in my day
about what they say to me about USC or Oklahoma.
I just love engaging with them because it gets them so mad.
It's well and we have I forgot to tease that a little later we have a good buddy of mine,
Justin Crowell, who is a Michigan native lives in LA now.
Big Lions fan.
I made the mistake of talking trash about the Lions and Thanksgiving and I felt for
a second what it's like for a fan base
To turn on you on Twitter it not a great feeling it goes away quickly fortunately and Justin
You should know is a film reporter for Deadline. We're gonna do some Hollywood
Awards coming up in a little while. We're gonna do it like sports awards. That's gonna be good
But more importantly, are you ready for my next freezing cold take? Yes
Sports Awards, that's gonna be good. But more importantly, are you ready
for my next freezing cold take?
Yes.
This one, this is a good conversation
because I don't think this one is fully frozen yet.
I think it's starting to freeze,
but there's a little slush, there's a little liquid.
Trey Wingo, love Trey Wingo,
Sports Center all those years,
I'm a fan of Trey Wingo's, tweeted,
I love Mike Tomlin, but this decision to start Russell over fields looks disastrous. Now I think he was probably reacting to the first half of the Russell Wilson tenure in Pittsburgh, but it does bring it obviously.
Steelers are in great shape, so that's why it's not a fully frozen take this could go bad still. But I don't know if you and I ever talked truly.
Did you feel like that was the right move at the right time?
The Russell Wilson, Justin Fields thing?
So yes, because I, and mainly because people
will always say this, like Justin Fields, great kid,
root and form, obviously, talent, needed a fresh start, all those
things. And by that was winning. Okay. They were winning, but nobody knows what's going
on in those walls, in the practice, in the game plans more than Mike Tomlin and the coaches.
Right. So they see these guys every day. So my whole thing was like, we know what Russell
Wilson is. He had a great
year, honestly, last year for Denver. I mean, he just hate and Sean Payton didn't get long,
but his numbers were there. Like he actually had a pretty good year. Like you still playing
a high level and you just knew based on what the Steelers offense was with fields and how
limited they were, but they were figuring out ways to win.
Low score games, couldn't throw the ball that well we, we could do, okay, we're gonna get rid
of probably some of these explosive run games
with the quarterback play, but we're gonna be
so much more balanced and dynamic overall.
I just, I didn't look at it like, how could you do this?
Like I just felt like we kinda know what Russell Wilson
can do and he's experienced and he came off
a really good year last year.
So it wasn't a shock to me and It wasn't an indictment on Justin Fields.
It's just like they're very limited with what they can do in the past.
Yeah, I mean, quite frankly, that was it.
So, oh, yeah, Trey Wingo.
I won't say this is our only one that's sort of freezing.
You're starting to freeze.
And I think the next two months will tell us truly if it's a frozen freezing cold take.
Yeah. Well, I mean, and at the time, I don't know the record, but what were they like four
and one or three? I mean, they were. Yeah, they were. So it was. Yeah, it was a little
bit of like, man, you just keep rolling with them because you like how dynamic. But it's
like they just never really it just the offense just it is what it was, what it was. You know,
like you were very limited with that. And at some point you got to see what you have in Russell, you know? So do you have any more or should we hit a few
quick ones or you was that your free was that your, I mean, I think I would put, yeah, I'm done. I
mean, like Ryan Hollins is up there. Ryan Hollins has had some just boneheads, like saying that
Yannis was overrated a couple of years back and like, like, I don't know. I'm just some of these
guys. All right. I want to just do a quick one. It's not from 2024, but this is almost an
honor of Belichick in North Carolina. I go into UNC. It's our boy, Dan Orlovsky. We love
Dan. Dan has to give a lot of opinions every day. This one is from 2021. So it's very unfair.
And I love Dan. Him and I bantered a lot about Daniel Jones, which I was very wrong about.
Dan Olovsky believes Bill Belichick will win another Super Bowl with Mac Jones at
QB.
Mac Jones is the best rookie QB that I have ever seen since doing the job when
it comes to knowing where to go with the football, when to go with the football,
and how to throw the football.
Now, again, he. in knowing where to go with the football, when to go with the football and how to throw the football.
Now, again, he, by the way, that's going, that's going up on all social platforms with the tag
of Danielle. We're just going to roast him. I forgot he was very high on Mac Jones. That's right.
I remember that I had such a fun trajectory to him because he hated the Daniel Jones pick.
I defended it. Then it looked like he was
right. He took a little bit of a victory lap, but then it switched back. He like apologized
sort of even to me on Twitter, like after the Vikings win, he's like, I was wrong. I
was wrong. But just to show you how fickle this take thing is, he's back to being right.
Just like that. And one year later he's back to being right. But I love Dan. He as almost as bad as his food takes. I don't know if you know his food takes, but
God, they're bad. His food takes are bad. And the last one for me, before we move on
to more positive stuff, this is a per this is my personal one. Austin hedges catcher
on the guardians. Orange County, respect the guardians had a big awesome series versus
the Yankees. He did interviews at some, I don't,
I don't remember with whom. I didn't just went MLB where he's saying that class a is the best
picture he's ever seen. Go look at the numbers. He's better than Mariano. He's better. He's a
better closer than Mariano Rivera. And then he went on to blow two saves and take another loss in
that ALCS. So love you Austin Hedges, but don't
be so quick to put people in the Mariano Rivera category. And that's it. So those are some
of our freezing cold takes being that it's freezing outside here in Ohio. There's a ton
more if we ever need that. Now I want to switch things over to something a little more uplifting
and give you our defining moments from 2024 brought to you by NHTSA.
Matt, what were some of your defining moments in sports from 2024?
Well, you phrase it that way. I should have thought of something different. I'm going
to this is whatever you want it to be. I'm going with my Dodgers. And the defining moment was Freddie Freeman's walk off in game one in extra innings at home
at the Chavez.
Okay, that was set the tone.
The tiny moment that set the tone.
Yeah.
But when you go back at this playoff run three, two division series over the Padres, which
was the real series of their playoff, that was like the winner of that was probably gonna
win the World Series, right?
That was the the winner of that was probably gonna win the World Series, right? That was the toughest one and just now our bitter rival for two NLC
NLCS win over the New York Mets and then for one over the Yankees World Series
I was at game five as people know
Freddie Freeman's moment
Shohei hurting his shoulder moment does oh no like you could hear like are they screwed like what happened?
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
I mean, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me.
And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me. And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me. And then, you know, I think it's a little bit of a surprise for me. Walker Bueller coming back off however many days rest to close it and then
Not to get too uplifting here, but then the FaceTime with my dad after was my credible moment, man
It is like as we we we joke we have fun
We like we do these takes whatever but like to have that experience in that moment with my pops who was watching and I was there
It was like, you know, like the last one was
was 2020 obviously kind of different. The last one was really Gibby's home run in 88 when I was
five years old when it brought so much joy. This one brought so much joy to our family, man. So,
and by the way, we're gearing back up to make another run in 2025. So that is baseball's back.
up to make another run in 2025. So that is baseball's back. Baseball's back. So my defining moment I thought long and hard about this in sports and I didn't want it to just be
a New York one. I tried to really think about it in sports. What was the defining moment
and the one that stuck out to me because it meant so many things than just, oh, that was a great thing for that person.
But the USA basketball gold medal,
but particularly Steph Curry, it's really Steph Curry,
because he had a lot of defining moments in the NBA.
He's a Hall of Famer.
We all know everything we need to know about him.
But just to have that one moment where it was with LeBron
and with AD and all those
great players to be the guy and then doing the putting, you know, putting them to sleep
bit.
I just thought for me, just when he was starting to taper off a little bit in the NBA, the
Warriors won that championship.
And since then, you could see he's starting to, you know, the age is setting in.
It's just happening.
He's still amazing.
And hopefully we need to appreciate him
for however long he has left in the NBA.
But that moment in that gold medal game
where he just went off,
that to me sticks out more than the Chiefs
winning the Super Bowl or the Knicks stealing game too.
Those are my honorable mentions.
So Steph Curry, gold medal game,
putting them to sleep is my defining moment of 20.
I think it probably like he would greatest shooter of all time. One multiple rings. Like he's maybe
top 10 player of all time. However you look at it, everyone, a lot of people think magic's the best
point guard of all time. I think that to your point, it just, it, it just notched him up another
level and how you look at him. Right. Because USA Olympics, you think of Jordan, you think of
the dream team back in the day.
We've had kind of an up and down run of basketball teams
in the last 20 years.
On that team, LeBron's final run,
KD's probably final run, you know,
and like who's taking the torch was the whole thing, right?
Who's the next?
And Steph just kind of reminding everybody like,
hey, don't forget about me.
I will go down as maybe a top five player of all time.
Like you could argue that now, now that he
has that hardware in that moment.
Well, when they run his Hall of Fame reel,
and he has hundreds of moments, but you could rest assured,
either very early or at that very last moment you might see
is going to be that putting them to sleep moment.
So we're gonna come right back with Justin Kroll, senior reporter for Deadline,
and we're gonna do some Hollywood acting awards, but not traditional.
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senior film reporter and all around Detroit, Michigan guy.
You know, we talk a lot about sport.
I'll even text him during the Lions games.
Justin, how you doing, buddy?
I'm doing good.
You not only text me, you used to be the guy
that was like the four friends that if the Lions lost in heartbreaking fashion,
you just text like brutal or like, I'm sorry, man.
Like you were of that group. And it was like instantaneous.
There was like a Bears game where they lost like heartbreakingly.
Yeah. Ten seconds after.
How do you how do you, by the way, my best friend is a die hard
lions fan as well.
She grew up in Detroit and she's like, she's, she's lived probably like you,
like the worst years, the bad years.
She's always been a fan.
And obviously now the lions are, are back and maybe the best team in the NFL.
Um, how do you, how do you look at like at the new fans, the bandwagoner fans?
Does that piss you off or is it like,
hey, come on board, like shit,
we need all the help we can get?
Not at all.
I mean, I like being a team that people are for,
but I know where I've been in the mud.
To me, my favorite actually isn't the Lions fans
that have just showed up.
It's kind of these, the Rams fans have started trying to start a rivalry
because they just assumed that they got staff or they'd always be better.
And now we're year four of this trade and we've been three out of the four years
had a better record than them.
And the playoff, but they did win a Super Bowl.
Yes, they listen, they get that.
Oh, I all means they still have the trade one.
You guys are better. Yes, for sure.
But like my whole thing with them is is like because they're chirpy about the loss.
And I'm like, don't be mad about the refs.
Be mad that Sean McBabe planted the ball.
Also, speaking of the Rams, since I have to teach you guys a lesson,
since most you started rooting for the team in 2020.
Yeah. Your team made the Super Bowl by possibly the most egregious
noncall in sports sports history.
They had to change the rules. So stop with the ref.
What call was that? By the way, I'm not a pass interference.
That's right. Saints where he like the guy like, oh, that's right.
Head while the ball was in the air. They changed the rule. They did that.
Like you can review pass interference for like a year and that.
So I feel like I always would text you because like I'm a Knicks fan.
So I know what that mud you speak of is like.
And I also know the PTSD that comes with certain teams.
Lord knows you have it the worst.
I when I tweeted that thing about maybe we should take the cowboys or lions off
Thanksgiving, who was the first person I heard from?
Kroll like, yeah, man, great. We're finally good.
You want to take us off Thanksgiving. What a friend you are.
So I'm saying this in a I am making this a non.
We're taking superstition out.
I'm barely going to mention the word.
Let's just say if potentially if the Detroit Lions make it to New Orleans,
find themselves going to New Orleans around February for whatever their reasons are.
Does Justin Kroll purchase a ticket?
Yes. Get a ticket through various Hollywood connections.
For sure. Like you're there. There's money.
I wouldn't even wait for someone to reach out.
There's money put away that my wife does not.
You have a fund.
By the way, more importantly, who is your plus one?
Is it your wife or is it your buddy?
Or is she with the kid?
Is she? Oh, she wouldn't go.
I would say you're not bringing the wife to that.
It would. I don't know, because like again, my dad and brother are not as
I'm the biggest Lions fan.
I know I'm not trying to like over-sensitize.
It just I own that too.
I enjoy being in L.A. and just being like that guy.
I don't I go by myself, probably like that's where it's at.
I really save a little money to.
Well, I like cash.
So expensive. Like I don't even know who I would. I mean, listen, Jerry, if you were like, I'm going, let's where it's at. I really save a little money to like cash. So expensive like I don't even know who I would.
I mean, listen, Jerry, if you were like, I'm going, let's do it.
But I wouldn't want to put that pressure.
But I will be there.
I have you. We're going to be there.
It's I've been to eight Rose Bowl, by the way, my first Rose Bowl.
I saw John Navarre play Mr.
Matt Leinart.
There you go.
So I've been to world bar.
Yeah, like we played it.
We played it. We played in Arizona together.
Oh, really? Yeah, he was.
I got he was there.
He got drafted there, I think, two years.
Yeah, two years prior to me.
I think he played the Lions actually in the mind of Detroit.
That's too funny.
I've been to World Series. See, I've done I've done everything but like the Derby and and Super Bowl.
And I said I will not go to a Super Bowl. Even when it was in LA. I'm like, I'm not going until my team's in it for the first time. So that means something to me. So yes, there's a fund. I'm sure some people would also like, feel like they would want to help me but I have I would.
I feel like they would want to help me, but I have.
I would. I know.
But I want to put this out there.
I went to my first Super Bowl last year.
The Chiefs win in Vegas. I've been to other Super Bowls, but I always left before the game.
I go attend the parties, win a beach ball MVP and get out of there before the game.
But I went and did some content for Bet MGM.
If if all these potential weird things happen and if the Lions had found themselves in New Orleans,
you for sure, if I had too, I would be like,
you know what, Coral, keep that fun going.
Put it toward the kids, 529.
Anybody that's watching this, get to me fast,
because I'm going, listen, I don't want to be blamed
for jinx, but I may have been looking at like,
flights to Vegas.
We should stop now, we should stop now. Last year but I may have been looking at like, we should stop now.
Last year, I may have been looking during that Niners game
because I was working quickly.
I think I'm already I've already said it.
This isn't I already said Lions Bill Super Bowl.
That's what's going to be.
I've been saying that for a long time.
I'm just enjoying this season, by the way, like everyone that's
actually a ball, like I just want to appreciate it
because it's like a really once in a lifetime, like everyone talking about this is the first
time they've ever been favored.
They like if they win one more game, it's the most in team history.
All these things.
I'm just like it truly is probably one of the best teams and we're talking about Red
Wings and those Pistons teams from the 2000s.
The Chirzer Verlander teams, you know, Michigan 97, like Michigan
last year, some great Izzo teams.
But this I wasn't I don't consider the bad boys teams my team, but because I wasn't really
watching teams till I was seven.
But this is from a regular season standpoint, easily the best team I've watched top to bottom.
Well let's just say for me, there's always, there's a few teams every now and then that
I'm like, you know, it would be really nice if this team won.
The Cubs for me were one.
Obviously, my Knicks are one for even if I wasn't a Knicks fan.
And the Lions for sure, for sure in the NFL are the team I'd be most happy for their fan
base having no affiliation other than being friends with you.
We wanted to do something fun today
as we're doing our year in review.
I kind of prepped everybody earlier,
but I want to look at film and a little television
and just movies and Hollywood in a different way,
kind of cross it over with sports instead of saying,
like, the best actor was, we're gonna do some categories.
I think the categories we came up with
are rookie of the year, which also, it's funny. Matt Damon has the famous quote of, yeah, I was an overnight sensation
after trying to get into a movie for 10 years. Right. It's like even though they're rookies,
we're basically just saying our younger actors who are on the rise, even though they might
have been doing it for a while. Then the one I'm most excited for is comeback actor of
the year. We've talked about it with NFL, like who's going to be the comeback player of the year.
It seems like that award is getting locked up.
Perfect example.
Like I thought Travolta in Pulp Fiction is example number one of what a comeback actor.
And then last but not least, we have male, female MVP.
And that criteria, which we're leaving totally up to you, to me, it's like, like yeah performance and movies. It's a little box-office success
It's maybe things they have set up, so I'm excited to see what you have today, but before we get to the awards I
Took my two kids
Alone last week Brie was working. I took them to see Moana too, and you're someone
I text a lot about movies in general.
One of my prouder days is when you broke the story of I was going to maybe play Arturo
Gaddi. That movie didn't happen. Unfortunately, Kroll wrote a glowing article.
Strahan was producing. You wrote a glowing article about how I'm a perfect person to
play Arturo Gaddi and the movie fell apart.
Did you tell them to do that too? Just so you can get some more?
Oh, no, I didn't. I mean, sometimes you want to add just to these stories, but a little juice. Well,
Jerry didn't. Mr. I would say, did Jerry text you? Brad Slater, Brad Slater, probably, probably.
Matt knows Brad Slater. Well, Brad Slater special. So, you know, you have a young son as well.
Matt has two young sons. I have. So it really hit me when I was at the movies.
Like I gave each kid like a little bag of popcorn.
I was ready to leave at any moment.
I'm like the minute this turns bad,
especially with my little guy.
I was ready to go.
You've taken your son to like premieres almost, right?
Of movies he really wanted to see.
Something with special screening, six premieres.
He's over 20 movies at this point.
So yeah, is there a secret?
Like how did you master?
Because now that's your son's thing is movies now, right?
I mean, he's into everything.
Toys, wrestling moves off our couch.
Like almost five.
So it's a lot.
But I have three rules for taking a kid these days to the movies.
Okay, great. Light year in 2022. He's like two and a half years old. Wow. I really I was like,
All right, we're gonna do this. I want to see how it goes. And the three three rules I did.
Again, I have one kid compared to the multiple for you. So that makes it slightly easier.
The first rule is find the earliest time possible. Like
in our we get we're lucky we have like theaters that do like
930 shows, even like interesting. Just know if you go
to that show. There's there's absolutely only people with kids
who are afraid they're gonna freak out to everyone is okay,
same wagon, you're in the same train. So let them and just know
just let them do what they want to do if If they want to sit on the steps, they
want to run around a little bit. As long as they're not
screaming, like just everyone's more accepting of imagine
there's a lot of people in a nine a.m. show as well.
It was it was empty. I mean, again, this is like COVID.
post COVID. I mean, he was boosted and all that stuff. But
like, you know, everyone's still kind of nervous to do it. But
like, right, no one there. And even since then, like every time I
go, it's like a family maybe like that's the best time.
That's a good rule. I like that second rule snacks, snacks,
snacks, sneak them in, buy them do what I don't care about, like,
all keep them snacking snacks in a drink and just like make sure
he knows and maybe make sure he has a diaper if he doesn't
pie trained or just go to the go to the bathroom before you enter that thing.
And the third rule is you have to be willing
to leave at any moment.
Like if he's like, I'm out, I need to go.
The money's nothing, you just need to go.
So he's been good the whole time.
He's done everything from, took him to Red One,
which is like probably the most adult thing he's been.
Red One, yeah.
Just to see how he would do.
It's been the more premieres and I have that wasn't a premiere
That was just that was the busiest granny went to the he went to the Moana premiere
Hey like and the this kid so spoiled we did just a screening of Despicable Me, which is just like you go
It's on the it's just a media screen that they call it right he walks out and he's like, where's the party yet?
Dad, oh the ant you want to know what after party was?
Because two weeks earlier, we went to Inside Out 2.
And there was an after party.
And it was like a bash.
Like it was Disney threw it right to the point where he's jaded ever since.
So I'm going to have to call you to get on some of these lists.
You got you should. Oh, you should.
Oh, I can. Yeah, I'll at least point it.
Listen, if you emailed one of these people, it's like, oh, Lionheart.
I would at least put my name on it and then explain I think that's Matt line the hard part for two
I mean is like my boys I took them to see what are the ages by the way so almost five and three and a
Half so okay, so we're basically
Yeah, we're all in the same boat. They can they can that my wife took them to Moana to in Miami a couple weeks ago
I think my wife took them to Moana in Miami a couple weeks ago.
She said they did great. I took them to Cosm.
Have you guys heard of Cosm?
Yep.
So like it's in LA.
I haven't.
Yeah, it's pretty cool, right?
So it's like this interactive thing, Jerry,
where you're kind of in a movie theater,
but it plays a sport.
It's like you're sitting front row into an NBA game.
It's like the sphere for sports.
Spheres before. Yeah. So they have one in Dallas. I think. Yeah.
So I took him to see Cirque des Soleil, which was like the only thing they could really do.
And this was a month ago and they loved it up until the last 20 minutes.
And then that's when that's when they just start beating the shit out of each other.
That's like, it's like they get a little restless.
Switching hour.
Like Scott Hanson would say.
When I went, I went to Texans Lions for it
and there was a ton of families there.
You do have to buy a ticket if you want.
It's a breakdown, there's a standing room for 20 bucks,
which I did because I just wanted to see how it was.
There's like a $70 one and then a 125.
And the families are there.
It does have, it's not like a rowdy bar situation.
But we did a whole couch.
I mean, we did a whole couch.
It was, it was awesome.
It was cool.
I feel like Jerry and I don't know if Jerry was going there
with this, but I feel like movies, the,
I feel like they're making a comeback,
like going to the theater and I, and I just feel,
I hear it more from friends or like, oh,
we went to the movies and it's not necessarily just like Disney movies, right?
Cause a lot of our friends are in the same boat.
I just feel like it's, hey, we're gonna go
have that experience like we all had growing up
which was amazing.
Is that something that you're seeing?
It will never get back to 2019 like Avengers
breaking the all time box office road
but animated movies especially like the families are fine. Like Inside Out is like broke animated records like it broke frozen like that's where that is where like the like like I think families are finally over the COVID of it all they want to show it and I think people just got tired of watching stuff at home like like I don't know about you but like getting out of the house is just so, so important.
And yeah, like we like that's the weekend is where I'm just
like, how do I make sure he does not lose his mind in this time?
Like, do I go to the park?
Do I go like I have a universal pass, but like the movies are, I
am always looking for that.
And I feel like you saw it on Thanksgiving weekend.
You, it broke a record, 132 million between Moana, Wicked,
and Gladiator 2.
Gladiator 2, yeah.
So everyone, that's a demographic right there
when you have it.
So I definitely see it coming back in that way,
animated films especially,
because there was like a time, Lightyear I brought up,
there was, it bombed, no one showed up,
and that seemed like such a slam dunk,
and that was like maybe families
just don't wanna go anymore.
And between Moana, Despicable Me did really well.
I mean, families showed up for Deadpool.
You don't make $1.3 billion if you don't show,
even though it's an R-rated movie.
At least teenagers were going.
It's such a like, I mean, gosh, it's so cool
because it gives them, Jerry and I were like,
it's something to look forward to, right?
Hey, we're going to the movie on Saturday. Whatever it is.
We're gonna go see Inside Out 2, like the boys get so excited now.
And that's how it was for me growing up because we didn't have a lot of money.
It was like going to a sporting event.
Like we would go to like one Lakers nosebleeds game a year and it was like our Super Bowl, you know?
Like these like your kids ask of where the party is after a movie, which is like, you know, that's the world.
That's like how we're raising our kids
because we're fortunate we get to do these things.
I just, I don't know.
I feel like it's kind of coming back,
which is so awesome because it's such a,
it was such a part of my childhood,
like getting your popcorn.
Like it seems so simple now, but it's like,
I'm tired of just streaming shit every night and like,
hey, we'll lay on the couch. Like, let's go
to the theater. Let's get candy. Let's get a Coke. Let's like,
let's do an outing. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm hoping
it's coming back.
Yeah, I mean, like, it's like how I grew up to it was like,
with my dad, like go to the movies with my dad and go to a
college football game with my dad, those were like infused in
my blood, which is why college football is such a big thing.
It's my wife's a huge college football thing too.
Um, and movies I'm, I still like love taking, I'm not jaded by this job.
I still really love it.
So that, that plays a huge part too.
And I want my kid to enjoy that as well.
Have you seen a lot of the, uh, more than non-kid movies this year?
Like have you, you've kind of ripped.
I used to get all the screeners back in the DVD generation.
That was the cool part of being in SAG and the WGA.
They don't do it as much.
It's like digital now.
They don't really do it because they just, yeah,
and you get digital links or, but again, like you
and like Matt said, I watch stuff at home on the couch.
I'm asleep 10 minutes in and it's no offense
to what I'm watching.
I can't stay awake past 10 o'clock.
So what I would say, and everyone said two things really,
everyone, you know, the mantra has been within Hollywood
survived till 25, right?
For the movies, you know, there's a lot,
there's a good setup for 2025,
which I want to ask you about in a second,
but what have you seen this year that you would say for,
all right, you don't want right, you don't have kids,
or you and your partner are gonna go to a movie.
What would you suggest?
I mean, I just kinda closed my,
I saw like 100 movies this year.
Damn.
Between theater at home and like the plane.
Like not 100 theatrical, like theater theaters.
I have closed my top 10.
I would say Dune was my favorite film of the year.
I thought that one was awesome. I'm halfway through the first one. I would say Dune was my favorite film of the year. I thought that was awesome.
I'm halfway through the first one. I'm watching at home. I fell asleep,
but not because of the movie. It was, it was midnight. Yeah.
It's I was sweating. That's your, that's your boy. That's my boy, Tim.
We've talked on the show. We'll get to him and down the road.
And like, like 20 times on this show. I'm so high on him.
Well, you'll like my, you'll like some of my awards.
All right. Dune?
Well, the Bob Dylan film with Tim.
All right. OK. Bob Dylan film.
That was Bob. I mean, if you like Walk the Lines, the same director, James Mangold.
I think it plays very similarly. I was engaged the whole time and just Tim Monica
Boero who plays Joe Baez Edward Norton.
Boyd Holbrook is Johnny Cash.
I want to see that movie now because he's so good.
It's really good.
There's this film called September 5th that's coming out soon.
Yes, I've heard a little.
Yes.
So how do you put that one?
Munich games were covered when the terrorist situation happened from the ABC desk.
Munich games were covered when the terrorist situation happened from the ABC desk.
Oh, it's like it is like one of the better thrillers of the year. The way they did that.
Those are like the big.
That's the big three.
Yeah, I would say I don't want to see Gladiator two yet.
That's that's four.
That was I I was so entertained by that.
How good was it?
Will never be the original.
And it's like it's just so hard to hit classics.
But like Denzel is in his role.
I think Miss Calls a star and they were just going for it
with some of those action scenes.
So that was on my list.
And then like TV wise, presumed it was my favorite show.
That was great. That was a great one.
I like disclaimer, too, on Apple.
And then this the recent season of industry, which is that like a London like financial HBO
financial. So behind lights behind. Did you watch? You'll
breeze through that. Did you watch shrinking? Love that
show. That's I think are my wife and his favorite. That's a show
where it's similar to entourage where I feel like I'm seeing my
friends again when it comes back on like, yeah, love all all those care like I'm relating to those characters so much.
The first season I kind of love more this one like got almost a little dark at times
where I was like kind of like turned off but I understood where they're going right Goldstein
edition I thought was great.
Like kind of rooting for that character but yeah I mean Harrison Ford is so good in that
like crotch.
Isn't it so it's I feel like it's so it's such a
Every time I watch it's such a strange
Like to see him in that show right because I think of him as Indiana Jones
Like I just think of him as like this. I don't know but he's great in it. He's fantastic
The pivot he's done recently with some of the TV stuff because right in the Yellowstone spin-off as well
Which I I like him in but um, yeah, he just kind of just fits perfectly.
And he does.
Like, like he's not he's a professional on the show, but he does have those.
If you watch his interviews, he kind of is that character a little bit with this.
The like, I'm so excited to become a grumpy asshole, man.
I don't know. I feel like I've been born and raised to get to that point in life.
We're going to do something.. That's what you have to look forward to, Jerry.
Well, Matt and I have been talking offline.
We're going to do these segments where Matt also has an older son.
I have a 16-year-old nephew and their sports takes are just psychotic at times.
But it's like the old versus the young.
So that is going to be a segment on throwbacks for sure.
We're going to have the old versus young.
I say this all the time.
The people that grew up in the 80s and 90s just had the best childhood.
They had the sports were better.
The TV shows were better.
Everything was just these kids don't know anything.
I'm showing Jack's all the like like the Batman animated series.
Yeah, spin and all that stuff.
I don't want Coco.
I want it bluey in my tailspin., and tailspin and all that stuff. I don't want Coco Lillian and Bluey in my house.
Tailspin, so good, tailspin.
I love that show, man.
We've brought it back, like All Dogs Go to Heaven,
which by the way, sad movie,
but we brought in some of those 90s movies back
for our kids and they love it, but it's like,
this is a, you're gonna sit down and watch this.
I did Back to the Future over Thanksgiving, and he was engaged in. This is a dirt. I don't watch this. I did back to the future over
Thanksgiving and he was engaged in the second one. Like he
really, I don't think he was following, but he definitely
found the visuals. And that was like a moment for me. Do you
know what live action one played well in my house? Airbud.
Oh, that would be a kid. Airbud played really well. My
five year old was just like, this is hilarious. And right
after he was like, Dad, let's go play basketball. This is how I had to inspire you to watch a dog play
basketball. This is what makes you want to play hoops.
This this song. This his favorite one is live action is
probably Godzilla King Kong right now. Like he's the he
thing.
I your kids your kids are gonna be quitting Tarantino. He's
watching everything.
Well, I've been like he's getting a little bit more scared
of things here and there.
So like I'll actually screw with him.
I'll do like like Disney randomly does their Hulu thing.
So like the alien movie is on the right.
Like the app and I'll click on alien.
He'll freak out like, no, don't put it on.
I freak out.
Godzilla King Kong's a little bit aggressive for a five year old.
Probably my five year old would love it.
My three year old would be terrified. My three year old would be terrified.
My five year old doesn't.
I mean, again, I gauge in the best story I have, like not of all time,
but like I would have like the TV on in the background and like Fear Fest is on
and they would just put like all sorts of horror films on at all points.
They are doing dinner. I can't watch that.
And Jack's just comes up. He's probably three.
He goes, Daddy, the dude with the weird fingers is on right now. He kind of looks scary.
I look up Freddy Cougars, just chopping somebody up. And I was like, click.
I got to change that channel. I can't watch that stuff now. Um,
before we move on to some awards, what, what is coming in 25?
That is that mantra survive till 25? Like what are,
what are things that we know are coming? And second part you I always kind of say like I
Don't want to quite do the one-for-one like your Shams in Hollywood
But you you know you have to break stuff you put the when I know crawl on Twitter puts
What do you put a bomb usually like you're gonna drop a body?
Incoming right when Justin puts incoming you know you're getting some massive casting news
So what are the things that you know are coming that you're excited about in. So what are the things that you know are coming
that you're excited about in 25?
And what are the things that you are working on?
You don't have to give away any trade secrets,
but things you hope break in 2025, one way or the other.
Oh, so stuff coming out, a lot of...
So the reason it was called Survive the 25
is that you had the dual writing, acting strikes,
and they had to push films out
because actors couldn't promote their movies. So like Challengers was supposed to come out in September of 23
came on April 24. And then all the movies in 24 pushed to 25. So you only had one Marvel
movie this year, for instance, it was Deadpool, huge hit, but like that and just never has
happened in recent years. Next year, we have three, we have a new Captain America with
Anthony Mackie taking over the shield right because he switched they switched that in
The TV show I love Mackie. I've gone with Mackie. He's he's the best. I
Always he calls me Detroit because like he's done some Detroit movies. So yeah Detroit and I'm like, he's an eight mile, right?
Eight mile. Yeah. Well, he also filmed a bunch like I think like real steel that Hugh Jackman movie with Sean Lee
Yeah, that's right. He's been in Detroit a couple of times.
So there's that.
There's Thunderbolt, which is like Marvel's version of Suicide Squad,
which is like Florence Pugh's character.
Yeah.
Winter Soldier all teamed together.
And then the big ones fantastic for finally getting rebooted with Pedro
and Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn in the Johnny Storm role.
And then you'll I mean, the summer is stacked.
There is the new Jurassic World movie with Scarlett Johansson coming out. and Joseph Quinn in the Johnny Storm role. And then you'll, I mean the summer's stacked.
There is the new Jurassic World movie
with Scarlett Johansson coming out.
There is the Superman movie coming out
that everyone's pretty excited about.
Brad Pitt has this F1 racing movie
that they've been teeing that everyone's pumped for.
So when I was just in Vegas for F1,
my room had a view of the track,
and at like two in the morning I just
Wake up I open the shade. Yeah, and there's cars flying around and there's like some guys standing in the middle of the track What it's Brad Pitt they were filming like reshoots
Their whole thing was cat like because it had to push because of the strike they had to get these additional shots
Right, so that was one of the I watched them filming that from my hotel window at
two thirty in the morning. I was room service and watched. And then you have another Avatar
film also coming out too at the end of the year. And then the one I'm actually excited
really is Sinners with it's Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler reuniting on like a vampire
movie set in Jim Crow. South. It looks fancy. He plays twins in it.
It looks awesome.
Oh, he plays dual roles.
Yeah, so I'm, that's an adult,
that's a date net movie that I want to be in.
Right, leave, you're gonna leave the kids at home for that one.
And then they're like, kid,
there's a How to Save Your Dragon live action movie
that I think is like,
that's something Jax is getting into is that movie.
It's a great movie.
And there's a couple Pixar films.
Zootopia 2 is gonna come out,
which we'll probably all take a look at. Oh, so we got a big, this is a, it's a big 25 is a big year.
If this goes well, I won't say we're back, but we'll say, okay, we now know officially what movies
and box offices like this is how it works. It functions now. I'm excited for that Harry Potter
show. Is it true? I read the Deadline article too. I think one of your
co-workers wrote about just the secrecy of the casting. I worked on that. You worked on that story? Oh yeah.
It's one of the most tight-lipped projects. That's a Nolan movie. It's the hardest thing to find news out about right now
because it's done in London. It's harder to track and the NDAs on it. Like it's just crazy. Crazy.
But I'm the nice thing about that is like, if you read any books, they leave so much out from the movies
because there's so much detail that I actually think
this will work for a new generation kind of thing.
Because it's like the people that like watch those movies
are just me and Matt's age now.
So like, and Jerry's, sorry.
I'm older than you, I'm a lot older than you.
Matt hates when I say I'm a lot older than you.
Four years, we're in the same decade. I'm a whole high school person older than I'm a lot older than you got Matt hates when I say I'm a lot older than
The same deck we're the same I'm a whole high school person older that is yeah when you're a whole high school I guess when you put it that way yeah, you're old
Yeah, like we wouldn't have gone to school with me. That's um that's oh, I might have been a senior
You guys are the freshmen I could have picked on you guys like days and if you know Matt was six five
Well, it's nine inches taller than what was eight years old.
What grade were you in the Rose Bowl against the bar?
I was Richard. So I graduated high school in one or two years old.
Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So, OK.
I just turned 41 in May.
OK. All right. So that yes.
So we know similar shows from the 90s.
Of course. Well, 2025 looks incredible.
But let's talk about 2024 and do some awards now.
OK, we thought through this.
We know the format.
Do you have the order you'd like to go?
Well, you want to do rookie come back and then rookie come back.
OK, so let's hear it.
So we got first one's going to be our rookie of the year
for actors, which I think is a great way to look at this one.
The Oscars should do this.
Yes.
So this one was a little tougher,
but I went based on like the Oscar pedigree stuff.
I'm going Mickey Madison from Enora, which is out.
That's another film.
That's like the under the radar film.
Yes.
It's excellent.
Director Sean Baker, who's done a lot of these like independent films
that have popped at the Oscars.
You'll know she's from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, right?
This is a rookie. This is her first big leading role. Right.
Everybody will remember her from getting like like barbecue.
She's the one that Leo barbecue at the flame grill. Right.
Yeah, she's awesome. She's one of the man.
But like, ironically, like that, those his cast in that movie under that is under the radar
Awesome for unknowns like Sidney Sweeney
Austin Butler was one of those Mickey right like Maya Hawk was like the Manson kids who go to like storm Brad and Leo
Yes are like stars now
One of the girls I did that she's what she opens the door for Brad to go when they go to the ranch
You know when Brad Pitt goes to the ranch, Sydney Sweeney.
Also, who did she Marguerite quality?
Yes, it's like it really is.
You rewatch that movie and you're like this.
That's the rewatch of the movie. Yeah.
Yeah, I watched it on the plane to L.A. last month.
And I thought the same thing like, wow, like if you look at this,
like a rookie draft class, just this movie, there's first round picks everywhere.
It's the lions last year class, like it's Gibbs, La Porta and Jack Campbell.
Well played, Kroll.
Well played.
Okay.
I like that.
That's a great call.
She's fantastic.
Try to find that.
But that's that I think if I had, she is right there in the mix to win the Oscar this year,
like that she's that good in it. So that would be, if you're, if you're in that sort of category, you get rookie of
the year.
If it's your first big leading role.
So that'd be next.
All right.
Was come back, come back.
Act of year.
My favorite.
Cause this was interesting.
I was trying to do it.
And this person had a, since COVID they've had a couple of theatrical things that just didn't hit as well. And I'm going to Gyllenhaal Jake, I think Roadhouse,
I think even though it didn't go theatrical really right a moment in the springtime where
everyone was watching it. It was the water cooler film. Everyone wanted to see it good
or bad like, Oh, I don't remember make this. Oh, I want to see this. But he's jacked. Of
course, I think that movie played really well. And I
think it was something that like, I think it was the film
that mainly stream that did the best of everything that you
remember in 24. And really popped again. And then like,
after that kind of died down, presumed innocent comes out. And
that is the show that summer that everyone was talking about
was incredible. See what happened. I think he's going to
be in the Emmy conversation now.
He just got a Globe nomination.
So he, like, it wasn't like he had, like, was in like actor jail, like
Travolta and when before he did Pulp Fiction, but he had a couple of
bumps with ambulance and that guy, Richie movie, just not having the
same sort of pop at the box office.
This year, I think he really did well.
And then next year, I actually just bought this, um, taking my
wife to New York for her,
it was her birthday present,
we're gonna go see Othello,
it's him and Denzel in the spring time.
Oh, that locks it up, MVP, wow.
So that's a 12-month stretch right there
where he's doing- Wow.
Some might say that's almost an MVP bid,
like that's very Sam Darnold,
like you could actually have the conversation
that he could be MVP as well.
We kinda already teased my MVP bidder from from earlier because I named two of my three films.
We'll get there in a second.
We'll get there because it's a sponsored segment as well.
So we'll get there.
And then you want to do the sponsor?
Yeah. So all right.
So this is how we set this up every week.
We do our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the year.
I needed a drink of water anyway.
And we try to figure out either,
usually it's with sports, a player or a team,
that's our saucy moment that we cannot get enough of.
So for our male and female MVP,
we're gonna use that for our Wendy's
can't get enough sauce moment of the week.
So let's go first with, let's do men first.
Who is the male MVP actor?
Shallow me of 2024. The gentleman.
Shell MVP.
Yeah, it's shell. Yeah. Yeah. If you if you go from year to
year, people forget Wonka was a year from now. That wonka 625
million at the box office and that owned basically the first
two months of the year where like when nothing was coming out
that made its money.
He got like a globe now for that, I believe.
Yep.
And it's like, it launched a new franchise for him.
Then that film dies down and dune comes out, which is like basically doing the
big time until inside out huge is going to be in the Oscar race now.
Obviously not everyone's going to see that because of him, but like without him,
I don't think the film is necessarily working.
Um, and then, and then this complete him, I don't think the film is necessarily working.
And then and then this complete unknown, I think he's getting an Oscar now for he's fantastic in it.
It's going to come out Christmas and like he he ate all factors.
He did the family film.
He did your temple.
And now he has this like acting piece that like really showed his stature,
I feel like.
And as we pointed out a few weeks back,
stellar sports
knowledge for someone that, by the way, that was the most
shocking thing I've ever seen.
That rounds out the MVP case.
This poor kid, just because he goes to NYU, everyone's like, he
can't be, he can't watch ball.
Totally stereotyped him.
This kid is like a diehard sports fan.
Like, I mean, the Ohio pick in the Mac Mac championship was
crazy because that was just like none of those guys on that board.
I'm sure you're in that position, too, where you have to pick a game.
You're like, I have no idea what I can't watch everything like.
That was nuts to nail that because they blew him out.
How old is he? Mid 20s.
Is 27, 27, 20. I think he's in later now, but he's I go harder for the next thing
that popped up. The next thing was great
We talked about like hunting Landry fields down in the middle of Manhattan somewhere to answer a trivia question to win tickets to the Knicks game
He also seems like a really down-to-earth, dude
Like he go he went to the timothy chalamet local like constant was like screwing with he's the MVP crawl
You're right. Yeah is the male MVP wrap it up
Give him the trophy.
Clap it up and we'll see if he can go back to back.
I mean, he's actually he's 28.
He's going to be 29 December 27th.
So under third.
He's my home.
He's got his mom's.
Yeah, it feels like he's been around for ever.
It was interesting.
He's at that game and I forgot that he did interstellar.
I watched interstellar last week on a plane and he's an Interstellar.
Yeah. So that's the other thing that's kind of we got to get him on this pod, by the way, that we have to make that happen.
And now who is our Wendy's can't get enough sauce female MVP actor.
Oh, well, ironically, he's his co-star. I'm Zendaya.
I think she's I think she's it now.
I like she is a big reason isn't just as of Dune because again, like that you can't really base
that on box office. But she's like that again. That was as much her film as it was Timmy's I feel
like this time around. But this film challengers. Is that the tennis movie? Yes. 90 million,
globally and that film like in this day and age, when a film like that,
that was kind of done for streamers, but gets the theatrical thing, that's an impressive feat.
And people were only going to that movie because of her. Sorry, Josh O'Connor and you and the
crown fans, Mike face, no one really knew who you were. They showed up for her. And I mean,
that doesn't seem like a huge number. But in this day and age, when that drama is just so hard to
get people in theaters
for, I think she locked that up to.
And anytime she has something coming, people lose their minds over it.
This age, she's a superstar. Yeah.
And she still has like in the chamber, if they get to it, they have euphoria.
If they get to it in the chamber, that's that's waiting.
Can I tell you guys my MVP? My. Yeah.
I just actually want to get Justin. How about Glenn
Powell? Yeah, I mean, like, I would have given it to him in
23. Well, that's what I said, like, I twister hitman, anyone
but you I just and then I think he's filming a pop running. Is
he Chad powers? That's right, Chad. I just feel like like
he's like, he had a big year.
Like he's had a big couple of years.
I think I slightly give it to Timmy because just the no for sure.
Yeah. But like Glenn is like runner up, probably.
If I had if you had the runner up numbers, he would be he'd be getting first place.
He got a few first place votes like from Reiner.
He got one. That was that like I would like to see him stretch.
I mean, listen, he's trying to build the movie star status
that one like, I guess Hitman was kind of that,
but the like film that like Timmy's like a Bob Dylan,
the Bob Dylan type of role.
Where he shows that acting range too.
Cause I think he is a really good actor.
I agree.
Justin can't thank you enough.
You know, we're trying to find friends of the show.
I think you're our first friend of the show.
We wanna have you back.
Oh, actually one more.
The saddest moment of the year was listening
to the triple
option and urban Meyer talk about that Michigan, Ohio state game that that was the saddest.
Shots fired. I love it. Wait, did you see, did you see that, um,
an Ohio state lawmaker, the bill that he's proposing, he's a Michigan fan. He's trolling.
He's a Michigan. Oh, really? Open Ann Arbor or Toledo. That's what all the bar school guys are saying.
Don't go for it.
It's a troll.
So he got me flag planting.
The flag planting is a felony.
I was like, how soft could you be?
Oh shit.
I'm almost positive.
Everyone was calling the guy out.
Like he's Ohio, but grew up.
It sounds like he's a Michigan fan from all the fans.
Has to be a troll because I mean, you can up, it sounds like he's a Michigan fan from all that support. Has to be a troll, cause I mean,
you can't take seriously.
So funny.
That's actually great.
Oh man.
Buddy, you're the best.
Yeah, thanks for coming on.
I appreciate it.
We'll get you back in 25 and see if we are surviving.
Good luck to your Detroit Lions.
I will not text you, I'll just text you happy things.
You can text me when you want, I'd appreciate it appreciate it. And maybe we'll see you in New Orleans.
Maybe the next episode we'll do. Maybe we're all in New Orleans. Who knows?
Well, hopefully my wife doesn't listen to this because then she's going to ask where that fund is hidden somewhere.
Good point. Good point.
Thank you, Justin.
See you guys.
Later, buddy. Bye. Bye. See you guys. Later, buddy.
Bye.
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All right. It's time for money moments. One of my favorite new segments we're doing presented by our friends over a cash app,
sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers
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So with this week, we're going to do it. So it's a team or a player, a person that
we are counting on to be money in 2025. Matt, we're looking ahead. Who do you got for 2025?
So I got to really quick. I can't believe is this I'm saying this, Bill Belichick,
big bill in college football taking over, you know, this month, obviously the, the North Carolina
head coaching job.
And I think I'm excited for it.
Like I don't, I don't know.
Like I'm still like trying to process like what he's going to be like on the sidelines
for North Carolina in the ACC, how he's going to recruit high school kids.
And I know it's built more like the NFL these days
with NI on all those things.
And like, he's got his general manager and all this stuff.
I get all that, but like just his coaching style
and what he brings to the game,
how it's going to translate over
into the college football level with a bunch of 18, 19,
and 20 year old kids that are now making a lot of money.
I just think it's fascinating.
I'm happy. You know, I think like, he still goes down a lot of money. I just think it's fascinating. I'm happy.
You know, I think like he still goes down
as one of the greatest to ever do it.
And now he's in the college football rank.
So that's one I'm looking forward to.
And then the other one is a college football player
named Arch Manning.
I am excited to see, cause I've seen him,
he's played at times this year.
I am excited to see the next Manning take over.
And a lot of people say that he's probably the best athlete
of all of them, which I would say he is.
Obviously, Chasen, his two uncles, but Arch Manning,
a lot of hype, great kid, will be the starting quarterback
for Texas next year.
I'm excited to see what he brings to college football.
Yours are so good. I have to comment. Comment. Well, the Belichick thing. First of all, I love that. Also, Mike Lombardi is his GM, which have you ever used the term GM?
It's all over college football now because you need you basically need a person that is a general that can build a roster
Like right it's literally that and that's part of the reason why Belichick
You know when they were going through all these negotiations there were a lot of points like a like he wants to be a football coach
But he needs to hire someone that could handle all the other shit. These coaches are dealing with a lot of coaches are dealing with
Roster management. How do we pay like they don't want to deal with that?
They want to just call plays X's and O's and have other have a whole team.
So that's how a lot of these teams are being built.
And that's certainly how North Carolina is going to be built.
The other thing I'm most excited for, like a lot of people, my favorite colorway
for uniform, sneakers, all is Carolina blue.
How do you not love that?
So we're going to see Belichick in that ratty hoodie, cut up sleeve, everything, but except it's going to be Carolina blue. How do you not love that? So we're going to see Belichick in that ratty
hoodie, cut up sleeve, everything, but except it's going to be Carolina blue with the Jordan
logo. If they put Jordans on, please build. He's going to have to wear Jordans. Please.
I feel like he could put in this contract. I'm going to wear whatever shoes I want. Don't
bother me. Please come out with your ratty North Carolina blue hoodie and some and some tar heel
Jordans oh, I
Excited for that moment by the way does it somehow somehow we talk about Phil Knight with Oregon and all that Nike money
Yeah, I don't know how much money Jordan gives to UNC
But something tells me there that was probably part of this deal that that collective is going to be a little bit bigger for North Carolina
That's gonna be exciting. It's crazy, man. Yeah, it is crazy to have Indiana
Playing good football North Carolina's future looks for all the college basketball teams. We've gotten so used to now penetrating the football world
I think it really really cool schools Kansas football has been, it's, we talk about all the time on the
show. Syracuse had a great year in football, like all of these traditional basketball schools. Duke
had a great year in football. Duke won, gosh, nine games this year, eight games this year. Yeah. So
it's cool, man. It's, it's, it's good for those schools, right? When they have both sports playing
well and the arch manning, that's a great one.
There's a part of me that really wishes he was coming out this year while the giant,
cause I really would love him to be on the giants.
I just think that would be so cool.
He needs a little bit of time, but that kid is gonna be,
I'm telling you right now, this could be my take.
He will be the number one pick in the draft
when he comes out.
I think he's that good.
And we've seen it this year. We've seen the glimpses because he's so he's
big. Yeah. So yeah, the the Giants draft was my number two for my for my money moment in
2025. My real money moment though. And it's what every New York Knicks fan is thinking
is what is this New York Knicks team gonna be like come April and
May during playoff time because right now it's been okay. It's been good.
I think it's been just okay. It's been just okay. They've lost a lot of games to
teams. They should have been. They've lost to the Hawks twice. They lost to the
Pistons. Shout out Justin Crowley. He tweeted, he texted me right after that
game. You know and a few signature wins. when it looks good, it looks really good.
And they put up 130, which is also weird to see from a Nick's team to put up 130 points
with Tibbs because they're so defensive, but it has not gelled yet and we are all in. This
is the team. I mean, maybe there'll be a smaller trade, but they are all in. And
the Nick fans talk about freezing cold takes. There's a lot of us, me included, coming into
this season. You could look back in June and say, Whoa, were all these meathead Nick fans
wrong? So for me, the thing I am looking forward to, I'm counting on, I need the Knicks to
be money. So that is my cash out money moment. The New York Knicks coming through when it
matters in April, May, and hopefully June. the Knicks to be money. So that is my cash out money moment. The New York Knicks coming through when it matters
in April, May, and hopefully June.
And I just, I'm counting on, before we move on,
I'm counting on floor seats for the Knicks.
That's like, that is, that is, okay,
we're gonna get into throwback three.
We're gonna do our New Year's resolutions, right?
Our personal ones, but one of, I just added one.
One of mine has to be courtsided Madison Square Garden
with you for a playoff game though.
I want a playoff game.
I don't want some.
Would you wear a Knicks hat or would you just stay neutral?
You stay neutral, right?
I don't wear a Knicks hat, dude.
I'm good.
I'm not like, yeah, Knicks and Lakers aren't even
in the same conference, so we're good.
Okay, I appreciate that.
But that is a, that's a good one.
All right, let's do throwback three.
So obviously we're wrapping up the year
and we always do, I think in our house,
and I'm sure you, we always do just New Year's resolutions,
just goals, something we wanna get better at,
something we wanna do more of,
maybe something we wanna do less of.
So we're gonna do throwback three,
our top three just New Year's resolutions.
What do we want to accomplish in 2025?
You start.
Okay.
And I love I used to do this thing, you know, obviously I lived in LA 20 years, I would
always fly home for Christmas every Christmas was the one holiday I could never miss in
New York.
But what I would do on the plane ride back home, because I'd always come home to LA for New Year's, because that's where the party was for me.
On the plane, I would not necessarily do resolutions, but I would just write things down that I
really wanted to accomplish.
Small things, big things, whatever, in the same notebook.
So the very next year on the flight back to New York for that Christmas, I would look
back, I would get to look back in the year and be like, oh, I did this.
That's cool. I did this. I didn't do that. So I encourage everyone, you
know, write them down and then put them away where you remember and look at them and just
see what happens. It might feel good to check some things off. But my number, my, my first
one I want to talk about is my overall health. You know, I just turned 45 years old and I've
definitely gained some dad weight.
I've been talking about this from an appearance. I feel like I look whatever. I don't even
really care how I look. It's more for how I feel. Definitely. The other night at dinner,
I got up, we were sitting down in the restaurant for two hours. I stood up and I cramped up
and had to take a knee. Like my left calf, my left calf seized up.
I took a knee in the restaurant and everyone came rushing over.
They thought I was having a heart attack.
So it's a pretty broad spectrum.
I can't stop laughing.
I'm getting the visual.
I'm sorry.
I know this is serious.
I did cramp up.
We did an escape room and then we went to dinner and I cramped up at dinner from the
pressure of the escape room.
So you know, overall health in general, the things that will encompass that will be, you
know, I'm 45 now, gotta go get the colonoscopy and I encourage every person out there.
You hit that age, just do it.
You know, we see James Vanderbeek now who just came out with a diagnosis and he's pretty,
you know, outwardly speaking up for our screenings and all that. So I'm handling all that health stuff, but I mean, saunas, cold plunges, stretching,
yoga, just all those things to be functional at 45.
And be healthy for my kids.
Okay.
So that, yeah.
So actually I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to start with that one as well.
And I think, cause we're in the same boat right now and I'm also having a baby here
pretty soon.
So like you can easily just throw it off.
For me with the health and fitness every year,
I always try to be like, all right,
just gym or this basic stuff.
I really want to dive more into like supplements, vitamins,
like, you know, they do those blood tests
where you can really, like you can,
like you spend a little bit of money,
but you really dial in like, hey, what, like this is what's up with your like tomorrow was talking
about exactly exactly like something like that so like I really want to and again and
it all it encompasses everything right because I just want to feel better I was laughing
at you cramping because like my lower back hurts my lower back hurts because my hips
and I'm still trying to work like like I just want to overall I want to be able to play
pickup basketball
multiple days a week like I used to,
which I can because of my hips are new.
But like, I wanna stretch more.
I wanna like, I like drinking.
Functional, yeah.
I'm not gonna give up.
I like things like, I like having a cocktail.
That's fine. Yes, you do.
You know what I mean?
Like, I like that.
You know what?
Like, I like doing those things.
So I'm not gonna deprive myself of that.
But I think just overall health and awareness of my body
then will allow me to be a better husband,
be a better dad, like all of those things.
Because like you said, like when we get older, man,
when you hit 40, early 40s, it's like shit just stops working.
You know, just like you gotta, you gotta do.
So that's, that's a big one.
And we should do, we've talked about this,
but we should do some type of like fitness challenge or something. Yeah. I don't know if it's like steps on a whoop band or Peloton
contest or what just, you know, weight loss doesn't really work because also we're not
proportionate. You know, so you can do body mass, we can do BMI. So we should come up with a throwbacks
challenge. Two things on that before we move on to the next one too. My good buddy Mike Young, who's a standup comic,
who also I played pickup with for years.
He had this great idea that I don't think ever happened,
but he wanted to do like a dudes weekend
where first thing we do is we all go,
like five of us go to the doctor
and we all get our colonoscopies, we get blood work,
we get all this stuff. And when we get the clean bill we get, we all get our colonoscopies, we get blood work, we get all this, we get
all this stuff. And when we get the clean bill of health, we party like crazy and celebrate
our health. That's a great idea for, uh, for older dudes where let's go get up, let's go
get the docs to look at us and basically give us a clue into the health and go party that.
And I did a 30 year old dude walk, rolled up on me on the gas station the other
day. He was a big entourage fan. He came up and he said, listen, I, I love throwbacks.
I hope you beat Matt in the three point challenge, which we haven't released just yet. But he
said, I have a pickup game Thursday nights and it's, it's pretty low, like low impact.
I think you could handle it. So I'm toying with the notion of showing up
to this random pickup game.
But I gotta get the health in order.
It's a perfect, just re-entry back into basketball.
But I ask you, you're walking in,
I won't know one person.
It's this dude, James, at the gas station
who had rolled up on me.
He might be walking into a fucking trap.
Who knows, who knows? All right. All right number two my number two
And I have so many okay
So this is not it's it's health adjacent. It's in the same ballpark. I want to get back into
Jiu-jitsu I
started taking jiu-jitsu
Years ago with the Gracie's at one of their academies. I got up to like yell out like
next belt. I wasn't very good but I did and I want to take it because these
friggin videos on Twitter, you ever, I mean these Street Fight videos just pop
up on my phone. I don't look for them. I don't want to look for them. They're
horrible, awful, but it also reminds me everyone seems to know how to fight
these days and I always thought I knew how to fight, but I just want to get to a point where if
someone's attacking me, I can get them to the ground and just disarm them.
Or perhaps to protect my wife or kids, I could just disarm them till help comes and just
choke them out a little bit.
Also like Jiu-Jitsu is like a badass workout.
It's also badass to learn that type of stuff.
But you do get hurt.
A lot of guys get neck and back stuff.
Yeah, but like the mental toughness and preparation,
all the stuff that that like gives you,
even outside of when you're just like in your hour workout,
I think it's incredible.
We try to put, we put Kason in,
my four and a half year old in jujitsu this summer
for kind of these, a lot of kids do it, right?
And he went for three months and it was like torture, dude.
And like, I was so disappointed because he's in there
and he's a big kid, he's strong, he's my tough,
like he is tough as nails, man, but he's not a fighter.
He just, he doesn't have like,
my three-year-old is not as tough, but my,
he will instigate, he'll punch you and he'll be like,
but he's like, he also cry more.
Dude, this little girl in there was beating his ass just rolling them all over the place
This little girl half his size and you know, they're teaching at this
He doesn't know what he's doing, but they're teaching like like like like throw her down grab her leg throw her down
Like he could he was just like this and I'm on the corner like Jason punch her man punch her
They're telling you to put like you know like that and just couldn't, and he would cry going in there finally.
And honestly it was Josie, Josie's like we're taking him, say that baby, at what point do we just stop?
So that was our intro to Jujitsu, but for you as a 45 year old grown man, I love it buddy.
Yep, what's your next one?
Alright, so this one's kinda, it's not generic, but be spontaneous.
I want to be more spontaneous.
And I think that one's always kind of lives in our house,
but more so because we're having another baby.
And a lot of this just like, it just, you know,
like we're going to have three under five.
We have a teenager who's going into a senior.
Like it's just going to be a lot.
And it's really hard, as you know,
like when you have babies and you have little kids,
like it's not about you anymore and that's fine.
It's about your kids, but just not going,
and this is my advice to all new parents,
but for us to, it's just not getting sucked
into the vortex of like the baby life
and we never leave the house
and we're just become that couple.
And like then things suffer like,
and like it is really important for me to make sure that we just continue to like
Do those things it might be taking one kid it might be taking just the baby and leaving the two it might be right
Whatever that means it doesn't matter. It could be going to the park
It could be just going to like but not getting sucked into like that tornado of like a new newborn phase
And then just in general like just being spontaneous like like,, like, like, hey, let's go do this.
Like, why not? Like, who cares?
You know, like not just getting stuck in that mode.
I think that's going to be a big one for both of us.
I think to a lot of families that have second and third kids or even one, but
they just are on the go, I think they do subscribe to that.
And that third kid, I feel like always ends up being the chillest one because they're just used to being like, ah, they'll nap anywhere
They'll eat anything because you're just on the go with them
It's a really good setup for mine. My last one. The problem is we've had our first two have had like
Severe acid reflux problems like severe stomach issues. So like they'd actually have to go to like
The doctor for to the sleep on they couldn't sleep on their back for a year. So like, our arc,
our boys were really, really tough babies in particular Canon. So like, obviously, they
were for the most part healthy, but they did have those issues that the doctor was like,
they will grow out of. But for that first year, they were just miserable. So we're just
like, yeah, I mean, healthy, happy, whatever,
but like, that would be nice.
Like if the third is the easiest one.
Well, the ones I'm putting on for my own personal list
based off of this show is one,
I wanna go to the movies more.
If I could get that to happen in 2025.
And two, I'm full commit to baseball
after just talking about Soto and all these,
I'm just next year, it's full commitment.
I will make time for baseball, but that's not my last one.
My last one is off of what you just said,
and it's not a done deal.
I am putting a maybe in front of it.
My last resolution is potentially expanding the Ferrari
family and adding a third. Potential! I'm considering it. I'm heavy considering it.
We just threw that out in the universe. That's right. That is out. That lives. Brie
is going to hear that. I'm gonna make sure she skips this episode. She is going
to hear that. Dude.
Well, I'm going to wait to see how it goes with you first. So I got some time. I'm going to be getting live Intel from you. By the way, the fact that you said that means it's going to happen.
There's no going, there's no going back once you go that far over the line. You know,
didn't the coaches, just expand the tribe, bro. Just expand the tribe.
I'm de-emphasizing, I'm de-emphasizing just how hard it's gonna be and I'm just trying to go with the flow a little bit more.
Yeah, you can't think about it. You just gotta go and you just, as my wife always says, oh, we'll be fine.
Okay. I will fully say as we wrap up and I hope everybody out there has their list. I will say,
I will fully say as we wrap up, and I hope everybody out there has their list,
I will say you have been an influence in that department,
and I will say if Bri and I do have a third child,
you and Josie are, by the way, this podcast happening
is a big reason why the third kid happened,
because I've followed your journey too
as we get to know each other doing this.
So, and maybe Matt or maybe Josie are they are great names. True. Well, Matthew, give us a middle name, Matthew.
I have one more. I have my number one. Yeah, I want your last one. By the way, that one,
we should end on that because that's fantastic. This is universal. This is to all the parents out there and really one quality over quantity and it for me I've been really
bad ever like the last two years like on my phone I'm guilty as anybody right I'm like
my 18 year old I'm just like and a lot of it honestly can be work related because the
jobs we do we're surfing we're like social like it is part of my my life but I've really
thought about this and like just I told my wife the other day
I'm like man like 20 minutes with my boys without a phone is better than an hour with my boys with me being on my phone
You know what I mean?
And like when you look at it that way you're like man if I give them or like every night I put them down
I pretend I'm like this crazy monster for five minutes and like they live
for that and it makes and then sometimes I'm like, man, like, I don't feel like doing
that. But I'm like, this is the greatest, literally three minutes that they want all
night. And it's just that quality that they'll always remember. Right. So not to get too
serious there, but now I love it over quantity, man, like quality, quality time is the most
important thing I think is we're getting older with our kids, friends, family,
putting the phone away, enjoying five minutes
with a five minute conversation with your wife
or your husband or your kid goes a long way
when you're fully present and you have that quality time.
So that's my universal message, man, to everybody.
That's a great way to go out, man.
And I've really made a conscious effort of it this last couple of months and
like that's my biggest goal next year.
I love it.
Well, cue up the music to take us out.
I want to wish everybody a very, very happy New Year's.
We have a lot of amazing sports in 2025 coming our way.
We're a few months out from the Super Bowl basketball playoffs going to get going.
And then next, you know, we'll be at spring training in February.
So 2025 looking bright.
Thanks to everybody who listened.
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Let's go.
Can't wait.
Peace.