Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Big D stands for “Drama” with the Cowboys and Mike Tyson Looks to Turn Back the Clock vs Jake Paul
Episode Date: November 14, 2024In the latest edition of Throwbacks presented by Cash App, Matt and Jerry share their thoughts on Micah Parsons’ comments about Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy and if it’s a sign of bigger proble...ms inside of Dallas' locker room. The guys also wonder if Giannis Antetokounmpo’s time with the Bucks is beginning to wind down and if it would’ve been in Daniel Jones’ best interest to take less money from the New York Giants. Then, we get you ready for Jake Paul’s upcoming fight against... 58-year-old Mike Tyson??? That’s right, Tyson’s back in the ring for this fully sanctioned spectacle, the results of which WILL live on forever as part of his boxing record. Does the former champ actually have a realistic shot at upending the 27-year-old Paul? And are fights like this a significant part of boxing’s new reality? Finally, in this week’s “Throwback 3,” Matt and Jerry lay out the top 3 sporting events that they wish they had attended. Will Jerry’s inner New York come bursting out? Will we see a more patriotic side of Matt? Tune in to find out and please share your 3 with us as well! New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (https://link.chtbl.com/throwbacks) A big thank you to our sponsors: Throwbacks is presented by Cash App That's Money. That's Cash App https://cash.app/bank Wendy’s Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today https://wendys.com/nuggs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're offered a million dollars to be on the undercard of whatever a Jake Paul.
Maybe two. We'll give you two mil.
You and Kevin Connolly, it's full go. Who's winning?
Connolly and I have always been competitive with each other in a healthy way.
If you came to us with that offer, we'd be like, let's try to get it to like three million.
We try to get a little more money.
I think one of us can knock him out.
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I can't stop laughing right now.
Those of you who see-
The best part about our show is the pre-show.
Yes.
We have a good show.
We have a good show for you today. Okay, we're definitely gonna get into Jake Paul, The best part about our show is the pre-show. Yes. Of all the shit talking.
We have a good show for you today.
OK, we're definitely going to get into Jake Paul, Mike Tyson
fight coming up this weekend.
We're going to talk NFL, NBA, everything.
But there's something we have to iron out,
because I have to stop laughing.
We have been talking about this three point shooting contest
for a while now.
You said in the earlier show, you outshot Caitlin Clark
one round, you took her down.
Well, we tied.
We tied.
We tied.
Right.
Which I'll take as a dub.
And then I have this assumption about a lot of football players
back in high school.
The football players were not good at basketball.
They were scary when they're defending you.
I've seen players like that.
I agree.
I'm not that, but it's OK. You don't want the linebacker defending you because I've seen I've seen players like that I agree you know I'm not
that but it's okay you don't want the linebacker defending you on in basketball because it could
hurt but also you weren't you were leaving them open at the three point line I've seen I've played
I've played with football players who like are on a fast break uh lay up and just chuck it off the
backboard with no with no finesse for sure but that's not that's not my game so you before I even knew anything about you at basketball you were bragging about what an awesome shooter you were I jumped all over
That because I know I'm a good shooter
And I thought this is a great opportunity to maybe beat Matt at something being that you're a natural-born athlete
and then I saw some videos of you and
I've since shown videos of you and I've since shown videos of you shooting I've sent it to a
bunch of people who know ball and at your jumper checks out it checks it's
not really a jumper it's more of a set shot but I'll take it I'll give you a
half jumper so I went to the Lakers I went to the Lakers who they even play
Sixers Lakers Sixers game the whole time on what my manager left,
the whole time we're analyzing the over under,
who's gonna hit more.
So we're doing five racks, five shots a piece,
so there's 25 points out there to get.
This is where it gets funny.
Before we do the show, Matt has taken on this heel persona.
He is so confident. He's looking at me like I'm a peon,
like I'm not even worth this three point competition.
Can I just speak for one second?
First of all, so I sent you videos of me shooting.
Great job.
I also played in the Drew League,
which is the premier basketball league
that where all the pros play.
And again, I was one and done and I had success.
A couple of threes in that I'm very confident in my shooting ability.
And I was a little bit like, man, Jerry, man, he's, you know, five, seven.
You know, back in his days,
he was a little he was a little overweight back in his prime.
He's now now you look great. You look great.
And then you send these celebrity all-star basketball games
where you're just like, you're running point
and you're running point.
You're telling guys to get off, sit down.
Like you're, I mean, you're fully invested.
By the way, mad respect.
I love that.
Ball is life.
I'm actually jealous because I've never gotten to play
in one of those games.
But that doesn't translate to me in an open college,
we're gonna do this at USC, shout out to USC.
Yes, reveal it.
College arena, probably in front of the men's basketball team.
That's awesome.
Coaches, a little, just a little,
there's gonna be a little bit of pressure.
And I know, you know, I know you, you say you like pressure.
I love it. Your middle name's pressure.
You love it, it's okay. This is different. This is different. You've never shot against a professional athlete
No, maybe maybe in a TV show
But not when the stakes right and by the way if we're betting on this
We might as well throw a little money in on this too. I don't know. I don't know. Here's why I was laughing
Where we going? Here's why I'm laughing coming Coming. I was coming into the show because I figured
out what I want if I win. I figured it out. I'm going to use one of your old takes against
you again. This jerseys thing. Now I know you want to embarrass me and make me wear
a six. I'm going to go. I'm going to take it one step further. If I defeat you as a
heavy underdog and maybe we got to get John
Ewing from BedMGM to give us some shooting odds, what are the actual betting odds? I
know what I want. I want you. You're going to wear my high school jersey with my name
on the back. I'm going to make it up for you because I know you're 6'5", you're 8'5",
7". You have to walk around for a full Manhattan beach day or wherever you are
Maybe even like maybe even like your last day on set of Big Noon you have to walk
With my high school jersey number 15 with ferrara on your back
That's what I well, it's gonna be but this would be skin tight on me. No, no, no, I'm gonna make one for you
I'm gonna make I'll make one. I'll spend the money. I wanted to listen
I want you to look stupid if I lose all if you want me to wear that to a big noon
Taping you know, obviously if you didn't look so good in the suits
I'd make you wear it on the show, but I don't want you to
If I win we're wearing what are we doing? We're wearing a Jersey courtside to a Knicks game. Well
Here's they won't let me in the building if I do that.
I would be down because I pay my bets, but I could assure you the people at Madison Square Garden,
if they were going to have me sit courtside, they would not.
I don't think they're letting me in the building, sitting courtside for free, wearing a Sixers.
It's not going to happen, but I'm happy to do another version.
We're going to post this. We need everybody to weigh in on this and one just time take yeah
What who do you think is gonna win? I mean we could we're gonna post listen
I'm gonna go get shots up today after this I
Play horse almost daily at the gym. I just I'm always shooting and so honestly
I'm putting even more pressure on myself because I am talking a big game. I just feel that confident
I feel that confident.
The last shooting competition I had was against the greatest female shooter of all time.
All time. And I took her to the very last rack. And she was sweating. My girl, Kaitlyn, was sweating. One day we're going to get her on this pod
and one day she's going to respond to this. Okay. She's the first question. Kaitlyn, were
you really worried that you were going to? Yeah, she was. Trust me. She was. She nailed
four out of five in the last rack to tie and she was like, okay, I give you props. I give
you props. All right. Well, think about what you want. That's going to be a fun day. Either
way we get to go to USC. This is when having your co-host being a legendary USC
football player, we get to use the USC.
That is something that a lot of other podcasts
don't get to do.
So I thank you for that.
It's gonna be fun, man.
It's gonna be a fun day.
We're talking a lot of smack.
It's gonna be cool to do some stuff
and get you out here, bro.
Get you out to LA.
All right, there's a few things.
So yeah, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson coming up later.
The Throwback Three that we've been doing.
We've been doing Throwback Threes now for a few weeks,
trying it out as a segment.
And little by little, the reaction on social
has been getting better and better.
And again, follow us on social at throwbackshow.
We interact with you, we will respond to you.
Last week's fictional athlete, which was your call,
fictional athlete gone over big this week.
I think we actually should tell the listeners now and ahead of time what we're
going to do. You ready? I agree. My week to choose.
We're going to do greatest sporting events you wish you could have been at.
So you can go through a historical time period.
You can make it your favorite team.
You can get a
little wild on the sports. If you want to throw some WWE stuff in there, whatever you
want, you're going to have great seats to one of the greatest sporting events in the
history. That's our throwback three this week. I love it. I did. I did a little deep dive
on this. So there's a lot of there's a lot of options out there.
I think this is, I think it's fascinating. I think it's fascinating.
As a sports fan, it just, it depends
on which way you want to go, but my goodness.
And my number one, my number one is fire.
I think it's gonna be, it's good.
You know what I wanted to ask you?
So now I'm at the part of the show,
after I watch a weekend full of sports,
I have my things, like I cannot wait to talk to Matt about.
Here's a question for you.
Go back to your playing days for a minute,
whether it's your rookie year, second year, whatever.
Would you have had a podcast?
I know you have one now, you're a former player.
If you're playing in today's, if you're playing in today's,
you couldn't have did it back then.
If you're playing in today's NFL, Matt Leiner,
on the Arizona Cardinals, take out Kyler,
you're on that team, you're 22 years old,
do you have a podcast?
I don't think so.
One, because it just, up until I met you, Jerry,
up until I met you.
It took you this long.
Yeah, it took me that long.
I think just as a quarterback, it's different.
I can't even, I don't even know who has a podcast
in this day and age as a quarterback out there.
I mean, obviously Rogers goes on every week to McAfee
and you have things like that, like guest hits,
but there's just too much going on for quarterback to,
especially, could you imagine if you're losing
and you're not having success and like,
you're just going to get ripped apart.
Oh, this guy does a podcast too. It's different when you're Micah Parsons or it's different if you're losing and you're not having success and you're just going to get ripped apart? Oh, this guy does a podcast too.
It's different when you're Micah Parsons
or it's different when you're Amon Raul St.
Brown has his.
There's a lot of guys that do that or they stream
or they do all these types of things.
But as a quarterback, you better be 10 years in,
won three Super Bowls, doing whatever the hell you
want on the side.
And it's just not worth it.
It's not worth it.
So the answer would be no.
That's a, you know, this question came to me
over the weekend.
That's a great way to sum it up.
Well, it's also, sorry, but you also like,
you're just opening yourself up for just absolute,
like a disaster. You can't.
Yeah, you can't do it. You just can't.
You can't do it. There's too much risk.
Now I'm trying to think who's gonna be the first quarterback to have their own podcast. You can't do it. You just can't. You can't. There's too much risk.
Now I'm trying to think who's going to be the first quarterback to have their own podcast.
They're there.
OK, so there's there's quarterbacks in college that are doing it like NIL stuff and that
kind of stuff.
And it's a it's a little different because they're kids and most of these guys aren't
probably going to make the NFL anyway.
So there's a little bit different there of like trying to like build a voice and build a brand.
There's nothing to gain if you're Jaden Daniels and you're like, you know what, I finally
want to launch my media company and my podcast. A, like you said, he has too much to do with
the quarterback position. But B, yeah, right now it's great that Jaden Daniels toasted
the NFL. What does he have to gain from having a podcast?
And that sums up the quarterback position
I think in the NFL right there.
That's why it'll happen.
Absolutely nothing.
Yeah.
Well, Micah Parsons, who I watch his stuff,
I think he's a really good interview.
I think it's interesting.
I do love the athlete podcasts.
I think it's fun.
I do too.
Especially when they dig in on a team. Like Draymond sometimes will dig in on a team
and you're getting insight that we all think we're not.
We don't have that brain.
But you know, Parsons with taking a shot at Mike McCarthy,
he was kind of walking it back on the show.
Do you think he made things worse by going on the podcast
and explaining and defending
why he did it and saying it was taken out of context? Like we all saw it.
Yeah. I look, I think he obviously was backtracking and this is just the pro.
The bigger issue there is when players have a platform and they're on their pod every
week or they're in the media and you're, and you're, and you're, and honestly you're Dallas
cowboy, which is there's more pressure than anybody being a Dallas cowboy, whether they're on their pod every week or they're in the media and you're and you're and you're and honestly you're Dallas Cowboy which is there's more pressure than anybody being a Dallas Cowboy
whether they're good or not that all eyes are always on them like you have to you have to be
very careful with what you say in the sense of like locker rooms imploding and like that's what I
that the the Micah Parsons thing like first, first of all, I thought about this, Mike McCarthy is,
he's a dead man walking, right?
That was kind of like the quote,
like he's probably gonna be gone regardless.
But that coach, and normally I would side with the player,
but that coach has taken every stray for the team.
He's manned up to how they've played,
whether it's offense or defense.
He's taken accountability and it is what it is.
He's a professional. Mike McCarthy, whether you think he accountability, and it is what it is. He's a professional.
Mike McCarthy, whether you think he's a good coach or not
or whatever, he's a professional,
and he's handled it extremely well.
And these are grown men, so that to me I respect.
Now when a player comes out and just starts pointing the finger
and starts throwing guys under the bus,
it's just a sign of something bigger there.
And I've been in locker rooms where
you start to finger point a little bit.
And I'll tell you what, Jerry, it's not good.
Like that team is about to get blown up.
And you know, next is going to be,
you know, DAC is out for the year.
And like next it's going to start,
you're going to start seeing players point the finger a deck.
And then now players are gonna,
Micah Parsons become somewhat of a target,
even though he's a great player, right?
Like you're a great player,
you can kind of get away with every,
like it doesn't work that way.
So it's interesting what's happening over there
with the Cowboys.
And I think Micah Parsons was in the wrong on that for sure.
You know, you take accountability,
you can be frustrated with coaching,
you can be frustrated with players,
but there's a way to handle that.
We always just said, we always said like it means like,
hey, you handle, you handle shit
within the walls of this locker room.
If you got a problem, you go talk to that person
and you handle it that way
because the minute you start opening this up to public
and to the media, it is a, it's a feeding frenzy.
And that's what it is right now.
And I guess, I can't say I disagree with what he said,
so it's a tricky thing.
I thought too on the pot he was trying to validate
a little bit what he said.
It's above my pay grade.
We know you don't make the decisions on the court.
But him saying that does nothing but jeopardize
the locker room and the team. that does nothing but jeopardize the locker room
and the team.
It does nothing but have people like us
and media talking about it in a negative light.
It just doesn't do anything.
There's nothing positive about it.
I've had in my career the opportunity a handful of times
to tell someone how I really felt without giving
the media trained answer about
I'm not gonna put a name on it, but who was someone I co-starred with and I know it on trash I always took the yeah
It's all it's all good because my thought was even though what I would say would be true and I'm allowed to say the truth
The amount that I would have to deal with it after, nothing good's gonna come of it.
And we're all under contract.
We're all here.
Now, actors don't get traded or cut while they do get fired.
But, and it could've got me fired, you never know.
But I just don't, and it's like a discipline thing.
I never took that bait.
Even though I wanted to.
Yeah, it's the problem when you're, again,
it's the cowboys and when you, and again, it's the Cowboys.
And again, to your point, kind of like with these podcasts
and social media, it's given, I think the positive,
it's given players a platform.
The Dremon, the in-season pod, reacting things,
I think is fascinating because it takes just fans
into like, wow, that's really what's happening,
not just pundits on TV thinking what's happening. Like this is real life, like real time.
And I appreciate that.
And I like that about Mike and he's outspoken,
but the minute you start opening up that can of worms
and you start to finger point and blame others,
man, I'm telling you what, even if it's a head coach or not,
it's a recipe for disaster.
And it's a culture thing for the cowboys.
And you can start at the top.
You can pinpoint whoever you want.
I think there's a lot of people to blame.
But that's the problem, man.
When you start doing that, again, I go by, I go by,
we're all professionals.
You're professional, right?
You handled that, you're co-star professionally
because you understand if you did handle it
a different way, the consequences, maybe you make a shitty show,
or maybe it just affects the chemistry on a set, right?
Same thing in a locker room.
Like you handle that stuff in between those walls.
If you got a problem with a dude,
I've been in those conversations,
like you got a problem with the receiver,
you got a problem, like you handle it,
and you work it out.
And if you can't work it out, okay, you're still making your money, you still go to
work every day and do the best you can. But if you do work it out, that only helps. And man,
I'll tell you what, dude, that locker room is a disaster. Well, let's go to another, let's go to
another locker room for a second. Same rules apply for a Debo and the pushing, whatever you want to call it, with the long snapper and the kicker.
So is that something that had that happened in the locker room?
We probably would have never known.
We would have heard, oh, Debo was pissed.
Can you come back from that?
How bad is that for a locker room?
Or is that something like, hey, we're dudes, we're football players, let's move on, sorry.
That's something different in my opinion. I've been on teams where there's been,
how many times we've seen like, I mean, I use Tio who I love, but Tio is an example,
like fighting with a coach, right? Or fighting with McNabb back in, like you've seen all that.
And then a lot of guys, most of the time you go in the locker room, you hash it out,
and you can apologize. You hash it out and you can apologize.
You hash it out and you move on
because it's just what you do.
To me that one, and I think Debo came out
and basically said like his emotions got the best of him.
If I'm a betting man, I guarantee they hash that out
in the locker room.
I guarantee there's no hard feelings.
The frustration came out, you missed the field goals.
You do like, yeah. You do it like,
yeah. And San Francisco is sort of that team right now that it's like, they're not playing
probably to their potential.
Yeah, we're waiting.
Yeah, we're waiting. McAfee's back and we'll see. And something tells me they're probably
going to make a run. But to me, I don't have a problem with that. Again, you try to keep
your emotions in check. You handle that stuff in the locker room. But if you handle it afterward,
you move on. Right? And we haven't seen anything from that since. So my in check, you handle that stuff in the locker room. But if you handle it afterward, you move on, right?
And we haven't seen anything from that since.
So my guess is, you know, it was handled the right way.
So emotions are part of the game, man.
Like emotions, frustrations on the sideline,
especially, you know, especially kicking.
I've been a part of games where you miss field goals
and back-to-back games and you had chances,
you know, you just get, you get pissed and I get that.
But, Debo, I'm sure, handled it the right way.
So.
Last thing I was thinking about in terms of NFL and things
I wanted to ask you.
And I got into this conversation with someone in my life
on the acting level.
Daniel Jones.
And we know, OK, that's been exhausted.
He's done.
We get it. And I know there's all sorts of stuff now with his injury claws and when he'd have to be if he gets
Hurt he gets paid whatever skipping all that
Is it crazy to think?
Going back to Daniel Jones and his contract and knowing hey, I had a really good year. We made the playoffs
I'm finally healthy
I had a really good year. We made the playoffs. I'm finally healthy
Saquon's amazing. My number one receiver was Isaiah Hodgins. This is two years ago. No offense to Isaiah Hodgins They had a great year. I got my coach seems dialed in we have chemistry. I
Know the edict is always make it make the money
Is there any world where Daniel Jones could have sat back his agent would have hated and all agents probably hate me for even saying this
Out loud, you know what? I want the 45 whatever 48 million
But maybe if I take
40 38
Maybe we'll have a little more leftover to sign Saquon or a better left tackle and maybe that'll lead to me playing better because I probably need more help than most good
Quarterbacks and maybe that gives me longevity. Maybe that keeps me on prime time
Maybe that helps me win some more games or with football different than basketball because you are risking
Life and limb and in so many ways get it while you can get it. Don't even let that other stuff fall where it may
Yeah, I agree with you. And Tom Brady is a perfect example. I mean, he took a pay cut every year and they were able to get guys every year, you know, guys like Granny Moss
and over the over the over the course of his career there. Now he had already won a Super
Bowl early on in his career. So like, but that's a perfect example. Here's my take on this is,
and again, I come from the side of get your money
while you can, because you never know when the last play is.
And we always talk about guaranteed contracts
and all that and the lack of guarantee.
Now the guaranteed money nowadays,
obviously is through the roof.
But it doesn't mean you're guaranteed like,
you know, like if you signed five years,
a hundred million dollars, right?
Or four years, a hundred million dollars,
making 25 million a year with 40 million guaranteed.
Okay, you're hitting that guarantee number.
But if you get hurt year one or something happens,
you're not getting the rest of that money on your contract.
You're not even close to hitting a hundred million.
It just doesn't work that way.
It's not like baseball, it's not like basketball.
So the mindset of that is always
get as much money as you can upfront,
get as much money as you can upfront,
and then you go out and you play
and you try to get to that second contract.
That was always the big deal in football.
It was like, play through your,
like Brock Purdy is about to hit
whatever it is, right?
And he's on a rookie deal.
Get to that second contract.
That's a great example.
You'd be a pay cut candidate.
Yeah, but he's still on a rookie deal though.
What I'm saying, when he makes his deal,
I won't call it pay cut.
Like making your deal, like taking a little less
to know, hey, we got Debo, we got Kittle,
we got McCaffrey, like how do we afford all these guys?
Listen, I would love to have somebody on
and talk because like, it's just a different world.
Like, you look at all these, these running backs
are a perfect example.
Like, they're undervalued for sure,
but you look at guys like, I mean,
God, I'm trying to think, like, not Jonathan Taylor,
Melvin Gordon held out a couple years back.
Yes, yes.
And like all these guys, and they were getting offered like 10,
but they wanted 15.
And then look what happens.
Like they got eight or nine or whatever it was,
and they're out of league.
They're out of the market tanked,
and you're out of league two years later
for whatever circumstance.
So that's the point of like,
it's like get as much as you possibly can
at the expense of getting what an average free agent receiver that may or may not make your team better.
So I get what you're saying.
What's the difference between 44 like we're talking about the quarterback podcast thing
though, right?
Like it's a little different for if Derek Henry came out with a podcast, you would get
it and you wouldn't say like, Oh, every win and loss is on Derek Henry came out with a podcast, you would get it and you wouldn't say like, oh,
every win and loss is on Derek Henry and if he loses, he better not want it.
If Lamar had a podcast after every loss, it would be awful for him.
So I guess my point is, I think you can only look at that theory for quarterbacks.
You're right.
A running back, a receiver, everyone should get as much money.
But if you're in this position, like, hey, maybe I got a five-year run here and we're
a good team, we're not great.
I just wonder, because of the market being so grand, like you said, 40, you know what,
if I take 36 a year instead of 40 a year, hey, look, that adds up to be 12 million,
you're leaving on a tail, It's a lot of money. But after taxes and commissions and all that stuff to
say, Hey, I get to play with, you know, Saquon.
After taxes and all of that, it's a lot. And then you have a season ending injury. Right.
And then all of a sudden the net and that guy balls and then you're, then you're cut.
You're out of the, so you get, you get, you get, you're out of a job and then you're
fine. Like there's both ways. I get what you're saying. Like to me, I'm just like, man, 50
mil guaranteed as opposed to 45, that 5 million at the end of the day after taxes, you're still
taking home a whole hell of a lot of money that you're probably never going to spend.
Maybe we can go get a dude. And again, there's been people that have done that for sure. I just, I think when you're seeing a little bit, I think when you're someone
like Daniel Jones, though, when you're not, you're not in a Tom Brady position, you're
not in an Aaron Rodgers position, you're not in a position where you've just solidified
yourself as a, as a hall of famer or, or a year and a year out. So Daniel Jones hasn't
done that. So Daniel Jones, I feel like has been fighting for his job every single year.
It's true. Right. You know, so like it's a totally different mindset where
they're like, dude, you got to get paid. Get your money, get your money. Cause by the way,
he's probably not going to be a giant next year. So yeah, well, it's fascinating though.
It is. There's a couple of legendary Hollywood stories. And again, it's different because
we're not risking. I always put that disclaimer. We're not risking
anything physically
And I think it might have been the movie the other guys what will feral and Wahlberg, right?
I don't know if those guys don't take massive
Pay cuts that they could have gotten doing any other their pick from any movie they want and they could go make any movie
They want I don't know if the other guys A gets made or B if they would have been able to make it with each
other without doing that. Well, I guess will could have maybe held out and said, no, I
want 10. So they, so they made Ford marks. So you got to bring in actor B or C and maybe
that movie's not as good. They, so they took pay cuts to be together. I think I don't have
confirmation. I legend has it to make that movie. Everyone cuts to be together? I think I don't have confirmation.
Legend has it.
To make that movie, everyone had to come together and say,
this is what we have.
But again, again, it's you have two of the most,
like two solidified Hall of Fame actors that have their dough
that have been doing it for 20 plus years.
And so I think when you get to that,
and you would know better than me, I'd be curious, like when you get to that
point, you're just like, Hey, we love this script. This is funny. Oh, I get a chance
to work with Will, I get a chance. Like, let's go do it. And it's only three months of your
life. Exactly. So yeah, I mean, look, I, yeah, I mean, I get, yeah, I'd be fascinated to
hear your take on just that like turn, like if you're, if you're an up and coming actor
or like, you know, you're working, but you're not making your this and that and like but you
get a chance to work with an A list actor but you're literally making peanuts like do
you that's been me every movie I have really done like television I always got paid really
well but movies because there's such there used to be a big differentiator between television
and movies like almost a new career oh you, you're going to be in a movie.
We have to start your rate over again because we can't use your TV version.
But there is a similarity with actors where, yeah, you're on fire right now.
You're making money right now.
But in two years, that could be gone.
Talking about you might not be able to earn money as an actor or in the entertainment
business for like five years
While you reset so there is threat so lone survivor right you run lone survivor. Oh, yeah, so scale
Yeah, I mean you were a minimum
Character right so those those guys so those five or six guys are all making a lot a lot of the budget
But again, and you go and you go into that and you're like hey we have this small role for you here's like you don't even you'll be
like I'm gonna do it because I'm in a great movie I'm on a one-year vet minimum
that minimum and I'm good in the movie maybe that leads me to another contract
but I'm on a one-year vet. So it's interesting stuff. But those entourage episodes pay well, I'm sure.
And you know what?
All of us, it's favored nation, all of us were paid the same.
We negotiated the same, which obviously will never
happen in sports.
But it's a very, very powerful thing to stick together.
And the legendary story is friends.
All those can't let that happen. those can make it a million an episode.
I feel like David Schwimmer could have maybe gotten paid out the gate more than
everyone. I could be, I don't know if this is factual, but they all pulled together
and said, no, no, we do this together because it doesn't work without the six of
us. And then they, they crushed.
They still see, I read something where they still see like 10 or 20 million a year
in residuals.
I was gonna say it's ridiculous.
Yeah, somewhere Friends is on right now.
So we're gonna we gotta talk about residuals with Entourage, right?
Coming back to all the streaming services, right?
Well the Entourage movie is on Netflix right now.
I don't know if the show I know there's been a big calling for it and Netflix has been
licensing a lot of Warner brother HBO stuff.ers shoutouts was just on there you have been perfect for ballers
too by the way you would have been I was almost I think I was you should have
been our boy Glazer was on it a lot I think glazed and confused was it I would
have loved to be on Entourage man man. Shit. That would have been sick.
Do I have permission real quick
to talk about a basketball thing?
I know you're locked in the basketball,
but you're not psycho locked.
As long as it's not about the Knicks.
It's not about the Knicks, actually.
It's not.
Giannis, a lot of talking heads have been saying,
oh, it's not working out in Milwaukee.
He's saying Giannis going to ask out forever.
So our friend of the show, there is a Knicks reference really quick.
Our friend of the show, Max Greenfield, who was just on a few weeks ago, he went to the
Knicks game and got the full court side experience, full, full boat.
And it was against the Bucks.
So I asked him to play body language guy.
Give me a reference like when you're watching Yannis because now they're like two and whatever it's looking bad
And here's what Max got back to me. He basically said hold on. Where is it?
Okay, this is just like an actor who's two weeks into a movie realizing this movie sucks
And it's gonna flop and then he sent me this Matt Damon quote Matt Damon once quoted
I came to consider that the definition of a professional actor is knowing you're in a turkey and going okay
I got four more months of this. It's up at dawn. See John hamburger Hill. I'm definitely gonna die here
But I'm doing it. Damon later said about his experience on the film. That's as shitty as you could feel creatively
I think I hope I never have that feeling again this is what Max is sending me I want to
know what movie that was with Matt Damon I'll look it up yeah but this is what
Max is sending me it's got to be over right isn't it crazy how fast things
turn like when did they win a championship three years ago three years
ago the year after the bubble so yeah championship? Three years ago? Three years ago, the year after the bubble.
So yeah, I guess it was three years ago.
Three years ago, they've been, I mean, Boston now obviously,
but like they've been top one or two seeds
in the Eastern Conference for years.
And it just, and it just, and have a good team
and then just completely have changed.
And like, honestly, I just think being in Milwaukee,
I think it's like one of those things where it's just like,
I think it's just time to move on.
Hey, he can come over to the West Coast.
They have no outs.
They've made, because they were a championship team
and they kept trying to just retool, not reboot,
which is the right thing to do
when you have a great player like Giannis,
they have no draft capital left.
The Damien Lillard, and I love Dame.
Dame is one of my favorite players to watch.
Which is crazy, right?
But the worst part of that trade,
besides now not, you know, picks and all that,
is the fact that Drew Holiday goes to Portland
and then goes to the Celtics.
So even if you still had a fighter's chance of winning,
now you gotta go through that guy in Boston. It's just bad.
And I love Giannis. He's one of my favorite players. Even like that Brown thing where
Jalen Brown offered him, he gave the fake out handshake and Brown was, by the way, Brown
super serious played it the right way. Don't show that you're, you like Giannis, even if you do.
He played it the right way. But to me, Yannis is already fucking around.
Yeah, dude, he's over it.
He's over it.
Man, that's going to be a long season in Milwaukee.
It's going to start all the where is he going to go,
who's going to, it's going to all start soon.
And I just, Yannis is one of our basketball treasures.
So we want to see him in playoff games.
And who knows? I'm not saying it's over, but it's it's rough.
And also really quick, I just saw this too. And you know, this
is airing. So this will be a day old by the time you see it. But
the Spurs just announced and Shams just announced that Greg
Popovich, who's missed a lot of time, suffered a mild stroke on
November 2nd.
He's expected to make a full recovery.
Thankful and grateful for that.
Timeline to return, not been determined.
So really quick, just wish Greg Popovich and his family
the best.
And it's good to hear that he's going to make a full recovery.
And again, we talk about treasures of the NBA.
As far as coaches, Greg Popovich is a treasure of a coach and
For Wemby, you know
Which he didn't have to Greg Popovich could walk off into the sunset whenever he wants from coaching and he's not and you feel
Like it's cuz of when me but either way you hope he just makes you know
He says I'm gonna make a full recovery, which is great. And hopefully we see him back on the court
Yes pop It's time. It's time for one of my favorite parts of the show. Our Wendy's
can't get enough sauce moment of the week. This is where we highlight an athlete or a
team or a player doing something on or off the court that we just can't get enough of.
Just like you can't get enough of Wendy's new saucy nugs. Matt, do you want to go first? I'll go first. Mine's a little more
serious. Shout out to Wendy's right here. I'm gonna, I'm gonna toast. Shout out John Robinson,
the legendary USC coach who just passed away this year. Yes, yes. Can't get enough of what he meant to USC
and really just football community.
You know, I had a chance to get to know him over the years.
And I said this on a show earlier,
on an interview earlier this week of,
you know, when I was at USC, we were at the peak, right?
Prime and all that, but it was always,
the most important thing for us was always reiterated
everybody that comes before you, right? And in the acting world, it's like, youated. Everybody that comes before you right in the acting world. It's
like, you know, the great actors before you write that represent
who you are and who you want to be, whether it was players,
whether it was coaches and j Rob, certainly him, john McKay,
and USC were those coaches, right? Those coaches for Pete
Carroll, and all that he was around a little bit. So just
what he epitomized at USC, what he meant
to USC. He had a great NFL career as well. So I just want to get a little shout out to coach
Robinson. Rest in peace. We're thinking of his family and you talk about pop as a treasure. He
was a treasure in the Trojan community. So that is my can't get enough sauce of the week.
J-Rob will miss you.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I don't wanna follow that, but cheers.
Yeah, sorry to bring it down a little bit.
No, no.
How to shout out the legend of Coach JR.
No, that's a great one.
So what do you got, man?
What do you got?
Okay, switching gears a little bit.
I'm sorry to do this to you.
It doesn't wob the Knicks.
I'm sorry to do this to you. I mean, bob the Knicks. I'm sorry to do this to you
I mean, this is unbelievable. Well, it's a great story. Just do a pod on the Knicks every week
I actually watched I watched a little bit of they played a they play Philly this week
I watched a little bit of that you mean they destroyed Philly. I didn't watch the ending
I literally I turn now that I think of you I turn it on for two minutes and I'm like
Like literally I turn now that I think of you, I turn it on for two minutes and I'm like,
this is like game eight of an 80 game series,
80 game season and watching the Knicks up 10 to six
in the first quarter.
I was like, Mike can't get enough sauce player of the week.
I'm gonna say, how to triple double that game.
But that's not why he's getting my sauce.
Is it your boy?
It's Josh Hart.
Here's why. I love Josh Hart.
Is he going to become a friend of the show?
Oh for sure.
Josh Hart's fantastic.
I went on the Roommates podcast not that long ago.
But here's why Josh Hart, for me, I can't get enough of.
Nick's Twitter is its own thing.
Some Nick's fan tweeted a video from a game at the garden might have been
that Bucks game from way high up in the stadium right and of course Twitter
being what it is just people just frying this dude all your seats are so bad do
me a favor grab the banner for me and pull it down like just roasting this guy.
I love that. And the guys like it's it's unbelievable that Nick like just roasting this guy. Oh, I love that. And the guy's like, it's unbelievable
that Nick fans are roasting me because I have bad seats.
Josh Hart swoops in, says check your DMs.
Very cool.
Swoops in this guy's DMs, blesses him with tickets.
I don't think the guy's gone to the game yet.
But now he's interacting with Josh Hart.
And even sure enough, I think there
was another woman who tweeted something like,
I'm in town for one night with my
Huh, whatever we've never been doing it check your DMs Josh Hart out here like Santa Claus
Dropping Nick's tickets is the season DMS tis the season that is my can't get enough sauce moment
We that's that's honey barbecue because it's a little sweet as well by the way
It's so it's it's such a cool like Josh Hart seems like a great dude
And like it's like you just like him right Like another team. He's one of those guys that just fits in every team that a lot of athletes, I just think athletes could do more of that because of that. Like it doesn't cost Josh Hart a thing. And if like, like, it's such a cool story that I'm glad that got picked up. And I'm glad you're hitting on that. Because, like those fans might not be able to afford anything more like, and again, I always look at this.
I look at this like we went to one game a year growing up
because we couldn't afford it.
It was either a Dodger game, a hockey game, whatever.
And it was like nosebleeds,
but it was like going to Disneyland once a year.
It's like, this is it, this is our Super Bowl.
And you appreciated that.
So the fact that he can do that for this family or whoever,
and probably damn near close to court side or the fan,
like that's just-
They're gonna be good.
They're gonna be good.
That's an experience.
That's awesome, man.
Shout out to Josh Hart.
Jay Hart.
Great job.
Well, thank you, Wendy's.
We're gonna take a quick break
and we'll be right back.
We'll talk some Jake Paul, Mike Tyson.
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Tried hard to maybe not focus on this. I did not know how I feel about this Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight
It's been scheduled for a while
It was postponed as we know because of some health issues for Tyson the whole time. I've been saying there's no way
I'm really gonna watch this. I'll just check out highlights on Twitter and stuff like that as
It's loomed closer Matt. I'm in I'm in on the fight
I'm so curious what is there any parts of you that want to watch or curious and then we'll get into what we think might well
I'm watching on the road. I'll be in Colorado this weekend. So I'm watching that
That this is I mean, this is what Jake Paul does, you know, he a lawyer
he's entered he's a professional entertainer and
His way about whether you like him or not, his personality, he just pulls you in.
And also, he's a good boxer.
He's a good athlete.
Again, we could say, oh, fight real people, this and that,
but the dude trains his ass off, he works hard.
You want to see it.
And also, this is Iron Mike Tyson.
I don't care if he's 55 or in his prime.
How do you not want to,
he's going to come out with the
black shorts, going to come out with his old school black shorts, the tatted face. Like
it's going to, it's like, I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it. I hope we get a good
fight. I hope we don't get some BS that we assume is probably going to happen.
Have you checked out any of the Netflix like countdown documentary? Yeah, I watched, so
I watched a little bit of it
Um, it's good. It's interesting. They sell it. Well, well, yeah, I mean they're salesmen. I mean, this is what they do
This is boxing and and
Yeah, I'm fascinated. Honestly, I'm fascinated the part of me wants to just like
Like be a kid and just lay on the couch and watch it like that
It's gonna be a great fight like this gonna be awesome fight Tyson's back
and just lay on the couch and watch it like, man, this is gonna be a great fight. Like, this is gonna be awesome fight. Tyson's back. It's Jake Paul. Whatever.
Like, everybody, everybody wants to see him beat the shit out of Jake Paul.
And then part of me is like, all right, well, they're getting paid 10 mil.
Like, this is going to be I want OK, hey, I'm going to we're going to
we're going to end this in the third round or pillow fight.
Yeah. I mean, well, I don't know.
What I mean, your thought, I mean, you're excited thoughts, lots of thoughts. And it didn't surface till about a week ago that I just
started watching some of the coverage, watching some of the press conferences, checking out
the training videos. And then I started Netflix doc. Whatever you want to think about Jake
Paul, whether you like or hate him as a YouTuber, you like or hate him as a boxer. This is not just some content.
It's boxing.
You're not saying, hey, I bet you I could beat Michael Jordan
in one-on-one, and you're gonna put it on pay-per-view.
We're gonna watch Jake Paul and 60-year-old Mike,
and Michael Jordan would smoke him.
But anyway, you are boxing.
There is still always a chance that you could get hurt.
And Mike Tyson is the one guy I would say,
you know who might forget that we had an arrangement?
I was about to say, he's a little bit of a wild card.
If they, and I'm not saying they do, they definitely,
let's assume they don't have an arrangement,
which I don't believe in my heart they do,
to make it a pillow fight.
Even if they did, that's probably the one guy
from boxing's past that I would not feel
totally comfortable going into. Like, he's not really gonna hit me. So you so you
think Tyson's going into this fight to like to beat his ass? It's a sanctioned
fight goes on his record I don't think Tyson cares about that at this point. I think a
couple of things that I've I feel like I've picked up on the point of view of
Mike Tyson number one the dude is just a warrior.
If you go back to him on Joe Rogan,
when I think he was promoting the Roy Jones Jr. fight,
and he's in way better shape now
than he was even two, three years ago for that,
and the whole time on Rogan, he's just,
oh yeah, you know, he's just talking, sweating,
like he's living the fight
while just doing an interview with Rogan.
Matt, if I were to tell you, you know what, Matt?
I'm gonna give you eight months to train,
to study the Kansas City Chiefs playbook,
and you are gonna get to play with all those weapons
in one game.
We're gonna give you one more game
and your health is gonna be there.
You're not like, that's basically basically what this could he's gotta be going
I'm getting paid 10 stats and you're getting paid 10 million or whatever is getting paid of
I think for sure he's taking it real and you're gonna being in a sport that you could get really hurt you would
Get ready. I hope so
But the thing is is I don't know how long he's gonna last right?
So like you got to think if he's taking this,
this dude is coming out, just getting inside like he does and just going, just aggro on his ass for
three rounds. I don't think we're going to get much past that. Mike, I don't care how good of shape he
thinks he's in. And this is my, and trust me, I'm rooting for Mike. 60 years old. And like,
This is my, and trust me, I'm rooting for Mike. 60 years old and like Jake Paul's,
I mean, Jake Paul's a big dude and Jake Paul trains hard.
Like Jake Paul's like, he's proven that he can go
eight, 10 rounds, obviously.
Now, can he take a punch for my arm?
I don't know, man, that's why I think it's fascinating.
And again, this is why they just roped you in, dude.
They roped you in.
They roped me in.
So you think Tyson is going in and saying
like and there's also part of me that like we all know like Tyson's actually like a really like
Soft-spoken kind of like yes, I'm like like like weirdly like a kind-hearted like almost like just polar ops at the minute
He steps in the ring. He's a killer right? That's what he that's what he defined. Like, it did he's like, what's he have to prove left, you know,
like it's entertainment. That's the only worry I have. I don't know. He keeps pulling me
in because even the clip of a few from like a year or two ago, maybe longer, he's just
doing it might have been his own podcast, Tyson, he's like, you know, now I'm like a
nice guy, you know, I'm paraphrasing, I walk around, but every now and then I just get so frustrated
because I can't like fight anymore.
I just feel like a bitch.
It's just, he goes to places.
Well, dude, when he was talking about,
he did like a part about like voting or something.
He's like, so what, so what?
Who's gonna vote for, what you gonna do about it?
And he's like, whoa, dude, whoa.
I do agree with you, the stamina, of course,
with a 57, 58 year old man
You look at it, and that's the thing but it's not like he's just saying yeah, give me the money
Let me get the dude is in phenomenal shape for his age now that still might not be enough because I want to point out
Jake Paul is also in phenomenal shape Jake Paul from all things. I've seen is
is also in phenomenal shape. Jake Paul, from all things I've seen,
is training for real.
He's trying to live a boxer life.
He has the different thing where he wasn't boxing as a kid
and he didn't have to box to survive and to make money.
That's a fortunate place.
But I do think he respects and loves the sport
and he's not a little dude.
He's not a little dude.
He's got a hammer.
His doc is called The Problem Well, have you watched, I think his doc
has called the problem child.
Have you watched that?
It's pretty fascinating.
Like Jake Paul has gone through a lot,
mental stuff up and down and been through a lot
and the dudes saving grace has been boxing.
So I don't think anyone, you could not like the guy.
I get that.
But you can't
disrespect the fact that he genuinely loves his sport and he works hard and trades. Now
we can say like, Hey, if you really want to be a boxer, like go fight professional boxer.
That's what's got him. But if I'm Jake Paul, it's like, why I'm getting more viewership
doing this fighting Tyson fighting, you know, a fury, fighting, you know, uh, Fury fighting
like, you know, ex UFC guys making 50 mil of fight laughing and giving the people what
they want a show. That's what they want. Like that's what to me, that's what boxing is now,
which is unfortunate. UFC is a completely different animal. This is what boxing has
become. And by the way, we're all suckers because we're all watching. I'm in. Well, that brings me to my next thing too. I do think Jake Paul's
a really good fighter. We'll see. We're reserving judgment to see how good he could actually
be. But he is a damn good fight promoter and that you cannot take away from him as a fight
pro. And maybe that's why he's doing maybe all this is like a where yeah, I'm gonna get some fights get some experience make a lot of money
And then I have this amazing fight promotion business
waiting for me
There's a great fight too. It's not even like an undercard co-main event Katie Taylor Amanda Serrano
They fought a few years ago as an awesome fight awesome fight
Rematch Katie Taylor won the title,
Amanda Serrano has won five fights in a row,
so I'm showing up for that as well.
All right.
Let me ask you a question real quick.
Let me ask you a question.
We're gonna do predictions,
and I'm gonna talk some betting odds,
and then we're gonna go with, yeah.
Okay, real quick.
You're offered a million dollars.
Yes.
To be on the undercard of whatever, a Jake Paul.
Maybe two, we'll give you two mil.
Two mil.
Two mil.
You and Kevin Connelly
He just called me. Okay, and you and it's and it's full. It's it's everything we've talked about your training
You guys are like there's no like hey you hit me. It's full go who's winning. Oh who's winning?
Yeah, and would you do it? This is a thing and we're gonna have Connelly on Connelly and I
Okay, let me unpack this Connelly. We don't have time to unpack it. I'll do it quick.
Connelly. Connelly and I have always been competitive with each other in a healthy way.
Who's faster? Who has a better arm? Who hits? And it's jokes, but there's always a hint of
seriousness. We're also like the same size. So it would be a good fight. Because we line up pretty well.
I think I got a few pounds on him these days.
But we like, it's hard what I do with these.
He's my friend.
I love the guys.
My brother.
I don't know who your enemy is.
But if we got that, here's how this would go.
If you came to us with that offer,
we'd be like, let's try to get it to like 3 million.
We try to get a little more money, get a little more cash.
But you guys got to beat the shit out of each other out there. There's no holding get it to like 3 million. We try to get a little more money, get a little more cash. Yeah, but you guys gotta beat the shit out of each other
out there.
There's no holding back.
There's no fluff.
If there's fluff, then you don't get paid.
No, and the good thing is, is I don't think Connelly or I
with 16 ounce gloves or whatever,
which I think Jake Paul and Tyson are wearing too.
We can't overlook that.
I don't think we could, I know we could hurt each other.
I don't think even with our best,
we could do tons of like crazy damage.
So I wouldn't feel bad that I would hurt him
or he would hurt me.
I think one of us could knock the other out, maybe.
Would I do it?
I'd pay to see that.
To me, that's such a all, I might need more dough.
Really?
Because again, we were talking about
the Daniel Jones thing, now here I am saying
I need more money.
Well, I just look at, if you give me two,
by the time I'm done with taxes and commissions,
it's a million. You just cut 50 You just cut 50% God's free money and think about the exposure you're gonna get
Three mil we got a deal. I'm gonna think about what think about what that would do for our podcast on our break
I'm on our break. I'm gonna tax Connolly that or maybe I'll call them on the home on the show
Should I call him right now? Yeah
I'll set it up. That's a great question, Lionel.
All right, really quick.
What's your prediction?
What's your prediction for this?
And I'm gonna throw some betting odds at you.
My prediction?
Okay, I haven't seen any betting odds.
I haven't seen anything.
I'm gonna give you some after this.
Gosh, how many rounds is it?
Oh gosh, you know what?
That's a great question.
I mean, it's gotta be a minimum 10, right?
Or eight to 10 rounds.
Andrew, or whatever. Do we know what the particular is? I think it's two minute rounds a minimum 10 right or 8 to 10 or whatever
Do we know what the particular I think it's two minute rounds by the way, too
I think the rounds are shortened
I think everything is shortened to favorite like whatever is legal and sanctioned short and a very traditional fight
so I think it's gonna go the distance and
I think
Come on is tough one. It is a tough one.
I think, I think Jake Paul will win.
Okay.
Jake Paul's minus 210.
Okay.
Mike Tyson plus 170.
All right.
It's an eight round fight.
Thank you.
Eight rounds, eight rounds, two minutes.
I do think Jake Paul's going to win.
Okay.
The reason why my, my analysis is 15 years, whatever, I remember Mike Tyson
on the way out of his professional career, he said in one of his post fight press conferences
where he got knocked out by a journeyman said, I can't keep doing this. I can't keep learning
losing to journeyman. I'm ruining my legacy. How is he in better, is it possible he's a better fighter
and in physical shape now than he was 20 years ago
when he was losing to Journeyman?
Because some of the Journeymen he lost to toward the end,
I don't think are that much better than Jake Paul.
I really don't.
I'm saying.
What are you talking about?
I don't think some of the fighters toward.
Of course he was in better shape.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know how Tyson now can beat a fighter
that was beating him 20 years ago because-
Exactly, no, I agree.
I don't, that's what I'm saying.
So I'm with you.
I think he's gotta go no holds bar the first two rounds.
And if he really wants to not-
Just hope to catch him.
And catch him with, and get inside
like he used to just come at you,
get inside and just start laying it.
Jake Paul's beard certainly looks like an advantage.
How is that not an advantage?
His beard's down to here.
How is that not extra cushion on the punch?
It's gotta deflect the punch right to his sternum.
It could soften it by 3%, which might keep him on his feet.
But I gotta be honest, I'm gonna watch this.
I'm gonna watch this for sure.
So here's a fun one.
Tyson to win by KO, TKO, or DQ. Basically, Tyson wins non-decision plus 250.
That's a fun one. That means you're basically betting Tyson to knock him out, right?
Yeah, I like that.
That's your Tyson knockout. If you want to get creative over under rounds,
six and a half, it's basically minus 110 over six and a half if you want Jake Paul by KO or TKO plus 140 plus 800 for a draw that's a sneaky fun one because then
they'll just do the rematch and get it and get another 10 million or 50 million
a piece I'm trying to find the best odds I think if you really want to take a shot
Jake Paul by round I if you go Jake Paul fifth round knockout plus 1200.
No way.
No way.
I'm going to bet on Jake Paul.
You think he's going to knock out Tyson?
No, but here's why I'm betting on Jake Paul.
It's a win-win.
If Tyson wins, I will not be sad about losing that money.
Oh, of course.
But if Jake Paul wins, which would make me sad, I want a little
bit of money in the process. All right. It's gonna be good. We're gonna take a break, but
I will be watching that this weekend. I'm going to see if I can get Kevin Colley on
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Matt, we're going to do this every week.
We're going to pick a player that we're counting on or a team that we're counting on going into the weekend.
You want to go to our first one?
So this is our first one. This is our first one.
You want me to lead off?
Go for it, man.
What you got?
All right.
We just spent 10, 15 minutes talking about them.
I am counting on Mike Tyson.
All I'm counting on, Iron Mike, just give us a good fight.
I don't even care if you win.
Just give us a good performance.
God, that would be great.
I'm going to be tuning in. Give us a good performance. God, that would be great. I'm gonna be tuning in.
Give us a good performance.
Turn back the clock a little bit.
And just get him, Mike.
And just come out in the black trunks.
The black famous trunks, right?
I just, oh, he's got it.
With the towel, with just the towel,
the towel robe just coming out.
Oh, I can't wait to see that look
when he walks to his music.
Okay, so I'm counting on the Colorado Buffaloes.
Hear me out.
Not just because I'm going there this weekend,
but this is Prime, Coach Prime, Deion Sanders.
Last year started fast, ended horribly.
A lot of people said he couldn't build
the way he's building.
A lot of people are tired of the theatrics
and the entertainment and this and that and the flash.
These boys control their own destiny
to get to a college football playoff.
They get Utah this weekend.
So this is more counting on them this weekend,
but also counting on them to make a run
at a college football
playoff in prime second year as the head coach with his son, the quarterback. It's pretty
wild and one of the quickest turnarounds we've ever seen. So prime doing his thing over there
in Boulder.
That's a great one. Talk about people in the news. It's gonna be really interesting with
everything coming out of Colorado.
Is Deion going to coach somewhere else? Where is Jador going? There's just so much to break down. You can do a whole podcast just on Colorado alone. That's a good one. Counting on them. Well,
and thank you to Cash App for that. We're going to do that each and every week and exciting stuff
going forward. Time for the throwback three, man. I had a hard time with this one. It was
my choice, my week, my category. You know, don't you hate it when it's like you do it
then you're like, damn, like I can't think of it is there's too many because then I will
the category we said earlier, it's it's it's sporting event that you wish you were at.
If you could be at any of the great sporting moments, we're gonna give you good seats. What's your throwback three? It's tough for me because I have the New York side
of me and I have the general sports side. So I tried to balance it as best I could.
You want me to start with number three? Start with your number three. I'll work my way.
Yeah, I have a lot. Honestly, I kind of want to change it now because we've been talking a lot of boxing. But I'm going Tyson Holyfield, the infamous ear biting ear.
Could you imagine being at that fight, walking out of the arena?
1997, I was 14 years old.
And again, this whole Tyson talks
got me excited because it's one of my favorite athletes
of all time.
He is just, he was so, he's such a polarizing figure. And you know, that moment, I remember I was a teenager, like the most controversial,
bizarre like thing we like barbaric, like we've never seen that nor, nor will we probably
ever see it. Like you literally bit a dude's ear off in the ring which is unbelievable like holy shit when you think back at that so I
Think to be there and and and that was heavyweight boxing like, you know, maybe not peak but that was heavyweight boxing
I was the biggest fight like this back in the day man
It would have been pretty sick to be it's a really to be ringside at any Tyson event and his prime
Yeah, My number three,
all right, separating myself from my New Yorkness, I went Tiger at the 2019 Masters,
which is his fifth Masters title. It's only five years ago. But if you're a golf fan,
if you're a father, if you've come back from anything in your life,
seeing him there after everyone wrote him off for dead as far as golf is concerned,
horrific injuries, winning at Augusta. Also then you'd be at Augusta, which is also amazing.
So you'd have a front row seat to that. And I've watched that Tiger Doc on HBO like three
or four times. And the part that gets me the most is see,
his kids didn't really know him winning.
Like they did, but they were super young.
And you see his kids run up to him.
I just think that to me is my all time golf moment.
So I'm starting there.
Those emotional moments after are the best, man,
when they win.
Even like the, was it 2015 when he had the shot, right?
Like the sickest golf shot of all time.
Like to be there just for that hole would have been like,
I've watched that highlight probably 150 times in my life.
Just cause that shit, just the motivation of that shit.
Okay, this one's gonna be, this one gets me excited.
I'm not sure how you feel about this one.
2008,
Beijing Olympics.
Four by 100 freestyle relay.
That's what you wanna be at?
You wanna be there?
I wanna be there.
Are you making fun of me?
No, no, no. Okay, so look if I've always won, okay, so one I've always wanted to go the Olympics, right?
I feel like any sport fan would be like, okay bucket list Olympics and then it's always like which which events would you go?
During an Olympic run. I've always been a massive fan of women's gymnastics
I've always been a massive fan of swimming not all of them've always been a massive fan of swimming, not all of them, but like 100 meter freestyle,
50 meter, like some of those obviously.
Honestly, basketball doesn't even do it for me
because we typically beat everybody by 50.
Like there were just certain events
that you'd want to go see.
And I remember watching that.
And that was the year when Michael Phelps,
I think got eight gold medals.
He was going for like all time. and France was talking shit before because they
were supposed to beat us and Phelps they're on the deck and just starts going
like the backslap, just the lats.
He's got massive lats and Jason Lizak who had met years and years ago, um,
is the final leg and they win barely by like a fingertip.
And the, and again, it goes, it goes to the, the reaction to our team in that moment to
win that against the world, France talking, it would have been electric in that building,
dude.
You want a 22nd Michael Phelps story?
Yeah.
So we were shooting, I think it's right after 08.
So we were shooting Entourage in New York.
We did an episode in New York, only did one in New York ever.
And we're doing the scene and it just so happened Michael Phelps was just came home from the Olympics, was doing an interview at like NBC.
We're in Manhattan shooting.
RAD, Gary Goldman, I believe it was.
Shout out to Gary.
Just goes up and takes a to Gary, just goes up and
takes a flyer, like goes up to Phelps like, hey, we're shooting Entourage outside downstairs.
You want to come do a cameo? Guys just won eight gold medals like a week ago. He's like,
yeah, for sure. I love that show. Comes downstairs. We threw a mic on him real quick. If you watch
the episode, it's super fast. Kevin Connelly has come up now 15 times on this episode,
is walking on the phone and he bumps into someone and the dude just turns around and goes, watch where you're going, bro.
And just keeps walking. That's awesome. Low key sneaky, good cameo. All right. My number two,
I had to admit. I feel like you didn't, I feel like you didn't like my number two, but it's okay.
I like it. I like it. And I want to do a conversation at some point about what your
plans will be for the LA 2020 and Olympics. Are you going to rent out your house and make a fortune? Are you going
to go? What are you going to do?
I'll go stay in Orange County 30 minutes away.
You go stay wherever you want with the money that you probably get to rent out your house.
I have to let the New Yorker in. I have to. I'm sorry. I tried hard not to do it. Well, you don't have to, but you just can't help yourself.
The Larry Johnson four-point play.
To be there for the Larry Johnson four-point play
against the Indiana Pacers.
All right, you could argue if it was a foul.
Fine.
Do all that.
But where the Knicks were as well at that moment,
underachieving, shortened season,
and they end up going to the finals because of that shot, I just think to be at MSG for that moment, underachieving shortened season and they end up going to the finals because of that shot. I just think to be at MSG for that moment for me and my generation, that's like
peak Nick's.
Was the Reggie Miller eight point? Was that against the Knicks?
Yeah. And I would not want to be there. I would have been at that one. I would not want
to be there for that, but that's, that's all I'm going to do with the Knicks. Okay. I love how you, I love how it's like not even one of the top 1000 sports moments
of all time. And you just, you had to throwback three is a very personal exercise. Number
one, arguably, I'm sure we'll do this at one point, the greatest sports movie of all time, the greatest moment, one of the greatest upsets, maybe the biggest upset in the
history of sport, USA versus Russia, 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid, New York,
and Miracle, which 1980 wasn't even born, so that movie which was Kurt Russell which is an outstanding awesome movie
Really sort of got me into being like whenever it came out whatever was was like
Holy shit like this is one of the greatest moments
And then you start to do the deep dive in the history of that and then you watch like the docks and you see all
these things
I
love hockey like I grew up liking hockey even though I live in the West Coast. And
that moment, Al Michaels, all of that thing, it's like, it's just, it is literally the
probably most iconic sports moment of all time, arguably, to be there in that to witness
like grown men, the number one team in the world beat or against a bunch of our and that
was when we didn't have NHL players,
professional players playing, I believe, right?
They were all like college kids.
Are you kidding me?
Like I got goosebumps just thinking about being there.
It's the best.
It's for sure the best.
One of the greatest calls of all time
and one of the greatest USA sports moments of all time.
Great one.
Yeah.
I have another great hockey one too,
but again, it's super New York.
So I'm going to leave it out.
If we do honorable mentions, I'll mention it.
I was at the, I was at the Kings Rangers game seven when we beat you guys too.
That wasn't it.
It was actually Rangers Devils game seven.
Mark Messier guarantees a victory.
They were down three, two, as a Rangers Devils game six.
And then they go on the Stefan and they go on to win the cup.
Last time they did that. All right my number one
This is tough. I have like three that I could put number one
But I'm really trying to do what means the most to me what means the most to me. I think is the
2001
World Series Yankees Diamondbacks where George Bush throws out the first pitch after 9-eleven
obviously the world was in an awful place.
New York was in a crazy place.
But the Yankees make the world series.
That's what Mr. November happened with Jeter hitting the home run at midnight and all that
stuff.
I just think to be there growing up in New York, I have a lot of friends who were there.
But also the game was great as well.
And the Yankees didn't
win that series obviously, but that had some of the craziest endings off of Byung-Yong
Kim. Remember the Tino home run, all these wild finishes. So that for me is my number
one. It just edged out Christian Leitner's shot.
Which I think we should take a swing at when we're at USC. That's a good call. Like, we don't have to have a defender.
Can I make the pass?
And can you make the catch and shot,
even without a defender, in our 40s?
Making the shot, I mean, I think I
can make that shot like four or five out of 10 times.
So like, that's, I don't know.
The pass is tough, dude.
The pass is harder than the shot.
I think the pass is harder.
Maybe you should do the pass.
Yeah, I could probably do the pass.
I just automatically put you as Leighton
there because you're 6'5".
I think it looks, I think it'd be funnier if you do the shot.
And I think the pass is a lot better
of a chance of happening if you make the shot.
I did have, we talked about, I did have,
like Kirk Gibson obviously was one of my.
Right, but that's a little Homer-ish for you.
Yeah, again, but being there there, like I got to be
there for game five of this world series. So that kind of took like took the Dodger
thing for me. There's there's I think seeing Michael Jordan in person would have been cool.
Like you can talk about the six versus the jazz Utah or just seeing them play in their
heyday. Like there's a lot of things as a sports fan. Um, when Kobe beat, when Lakers beat the Celtics, I was actually in Europe watching that. I would get up, we were
on an insane boys trip and we would get up, I think it was two games while we were out
there at like three in the morning to watch it, which was crazy. So like those things
man, like, like, but yeah, I mean, and maybe the magic Larry, uh, NCAA final, just cause
you're looking at two guys
No one probably at the time
Maybe you assumed how great they would be but you just didn't know really for sure and then you could have said I was there
Courtside that was a great game. I think Kobe Kobe's my favorite athlete
I think his last game getting over 60 against Utah like just going out like that. I watch
He was getting I had a couple friends that went to that like that. I watched it. He was getting sick that night.
I had a couple friends that went to that game too.
And I was like, damn, I should have went to that.
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