Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - NFL Coaches You Want in Your Corner & the Newest Additions to the Madden 99 Club

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Matt and Jerry dive into NFL preseason by guessing this year’s Madden 99 Club members and drafting the head coaches they’d most want in their corner for a fight.  Jerry also unveils his 16-year-old nephew’s hottest football takes with Matt judging which ones are reasonable and which ones are freezing cold.  Then, in honor of the “random fan” who homered in a collegiate summer baseball league game, the guys contemplate which athletic feats are actually achievable for a regular person in a professional sporting event.  Could you hit a 3?  Could you gain 1 yard?  Matt and Jerry share their thoughts.  And finally, in today’s mailbag, Matt reveals his personal favorite touchdown that wasn’t the Bush Push and Jerry tells us about his stunt experience on the set of Sully.  New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/)      A big thank you to our sponsors:    Wendy’s    Find your new favorite Frosty Fusions™ flavor today with choices like OREO® Brownie, Caramel Crunch, and Pop-Tarts® Strawberry.  https://m-wendys.app.link/frostyswirl25  KaChava  Go to https://kachava.com and use code THROWBACKS for 15% off your next order   Nissan  The 2025 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek.  Adventure ready and free from new tariffs.  Learn more at https://www.nissanusa.com/   Zip Recruiter  Try FOR FREE at http://Ziprecruiter.com/Throwbacks   NHTSA  Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over   00:00 Intro & NFL bye week insight 5:49 Team plane rides 8:12 Matt in Scotland with Reggie Bush 13:47 NFL Preseason 27:45 NHTSA Crossroads 39:12 Madden 99 Club 48:16 Nissan All-Time Adventures 55:38 Wendy’s Flavor of the Week 1:01:49 Mailbag Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're going to hate my last pick and no one's going to get it. And I've done this before where I've said things that no one gets and I've been proven true. It's Mike McDaniel. And here's why. Stay with me. Don't fall off. No, don't fall asleep. Don't roll your eyes.

He looks kind of crazy to me. You think there's some screws loose up there. I feel like he does like some Jim Carrey crazy things that you're kind of like, whoa, this guy's actually certifiably insane. Welcome to another episode of throwbacks. We had two bi-weeks, back-to-back bye weeks, bro. I got to be honest with you, bro. I usually love a good bye-week. Two weeks is too long from not seeing your face.

I just feel like we have so much to talk about. And so much happens in two weeks. It's almost like you forget, oh, we, we're actually going to do like 40 podcast episodes in a row now. That really was our last two weeks off until, because we're entering college football, NFL. We're going to go like 40 weeks straight. Isn't that crazy?

I was talking to somebody the other day and we're talking about the pod and like, you know, how it works in the episodes. And I'm like, yeah, I think we've done like 38 episodes or 39 episodes. They're like, what? I'm like, yeah, dude, this shit's week to week, baby. By the way, but two weeks is a long time. what's a what's an NFL buy week like though like when you're when you're starting like when you're the guy you're starting quarterback right like is it the same feeling like are you just so happy to have some off time and then you get excited to come back or just still like a malaise and coming back to work almost yeah no it's good question i think it depends well first of all when we get and i i i can guarantee you i speak for everybody that's still playing when you get that schedule release you immediately say wins are by We immediately look.

Is that the first question? Oh, no, it's the first question is like, we just, I just all, if I get on my phone, I'm like, all right, where's our bye week? Oh, okay, it's week nine. Where's the Thursday night football game? Okay, that means you, because typically when you have a Thursday night game, you can kind of, you get Friday, Saturday, Sunday off sometimes. It's like a weekend off.

Exactly, which is, which is still like a buy. So it's nice to, um, it's nice to know where that is. So like, as far as the feeling of it, it's freaking beautiful, dude. It is like, are you allowed to leave town? Are you allowed to, um, travel? It just depends. It just depends like every organization's different.

Like you could have a light walk through on a Friday and, hey, we'll see you a Monday morning. So you're gone. So you can go, you can, yeah, you can now, like, I think, did it Romo do that one year where he was, when he was dating Jessica Simpson? But I think the big deal with that was they were the one seed. So it was a first round by. I would just say, I would just say, I would say, buy me before a playoff game.

Yeah, I would say most. are not really going anywhere. You're just laying low at the house. You're spending time with the kids. Again, you're relaxing and you're just kind of like resetting. Now, if you're three and six, like the biweek's not fun. Like, you're just like, oh, man, this sucks. But if you're six and three or eight and two or whatever it is, like, it's just nice.

You know, it's just a reset. It's perfect. But yeah, you look at that. The biweek comes. The biweek is glorious, dude. Well, now there's got to be so many. Like, you mentioned the first thing you would look for when you were playing was by week's up now there's so many things i guess as a player for the like are we going

to germany or london which i which i now there's christmas day thanksgiving day black friday like are we playing on a holiday because there's so many more holiday based games yeah there's a lot that goes into the schedule release you kind of look at the monday night game you look at when you when you have an off time you look at the opponents you're playing and where and when and all that um yeah then and then you just all right before we dive into cal up real quick since we're on a great topic, too. Do you know what I, all gamblers like myself would always overread this thing in football? And I know it's probably meaningless.

There's no rhyme or reason. But the team from the West Coast, like you, when you were with the Cardinals, traveling east. And there was always like, oh, they take off an extra point because, you know, is that anything? Is it real? I mean, I'm sure it's not easy. ebook. Could you actually like take a point off on a point spread because you have like the chargers traveling east or whatever? Because they're playing a garbage team. That can't matter. Did it ever affect you? You know what? You know what?

It's there's two, two areas that I do think there can be, that you can be affected. I do. I believe that. But the other one is the altitude, right? Like, so going to Denver. That was a thing. That's a real thing. That was a real thing. We would go, we would technically, and that time difference when I was West Coast because Arizona, Arizona's Mountain Time. Or when I was in Oakland, right? We went to Denver. I believe we went on Thursday because that is no joke up there. You have to acclimate to the elevator. You have to get an extra day. And now, so again, it's all just there's theories and scientific stuff. And some teams may just go the day before. Some might go too. But like, I think when you're looking at betting and that, there is some validity to, oh, the

chargers are going all the way up to New York. Phil Rivers killed me. He killed every. East Coast team he played. Oh, I always bet against somebody killed me going east. Again, it's just the team as well. Like, they're all professionals. But yeah, I mean, there's some, there's a little bit of truth. But it also depends on who you're playing to. Like, if you're playing, like, if you're going from

chargers up to Buffalo, like, yeah, Buffalo is a pretty good, although the charges are good team. Buffalo is a pretty good team. Like, you know, you're probably going to take Buffalo. But one, one day we got to just do a solid 10 minutes on plane stories, like team playing stories. I love the team playing. I, you know how much, I am so into, I am so into

all that minutia of, you know, what you pack, who sits where, what do you do on the plane? I don't know. I'm into that. I know it might be boring for you, but we're going to have to do 10 minutes on that. I love all that. I'm already thinking of who we could have on. I mean, it's anybody like. Who's snoring?

Who's like, I know it's not the 86 met. Well, I will say this. We had, we had my, and this is just me, my Houston years, I was there for two years. Our team planes were the shit, dude. We had a blast, man. And, like, I know a lot of other teams do, too. And, again, it is based solely on organization. On the people.

On the people. Like, they're like, hey, treat us like men. Treat us like pros. Go do your thing. Just don't be idiots, you know? Like, especially after a loss. Like, you know, I don't want to hear the playing rowdy in the back when we just got our ass kicked, right?

That doesn't mean you can't have fun, like, and whatever. Like, it is what it is. Like, we're, like, you're not going to win every game. So Houston, dude, I'll come. We, we, the card games we had. Yeah. I told you. I would love that.

I would love that. That would be my favorite part of being a professional athlete is the flights. I would love it. The gambling that we did and the car and the,

in the shit talking and it was, it's the best camaraderie, man. Like the locker in the flights, it's what I miss, honestly the most. I don't think it's talked about enough. I want to,

I would love to know, like, I would love to talk to players for like a, do almost like a documentary on it. Give me like the top five team playing scenarios. Because you always see those like, we know who we need to have on.

Who? Who? Who? be great is my boy Dave Anderson. So Dave Anderson was like Colorado State's all time leading receiver. Yeah, receiver. Yeah, with the Texans. He's with that Owen Daniels. Yeah, yeah. Those are the teams. I love those guys. So it was like D.A., Kevin Walter, Andre Johnson, Owen Daniels in his prime, Aryan Foster. Like, we were loaded. Do we had great teams. DA was a great, was a big slot receiver played for Houston for like five or six

years. Liz, Liz near me. I see him all the time. He was like, I think was he, yeah, he was my seat partner. We were right there. So we all were in the back of the plane and he, he was in the middle of some of those freaking gambling stories, dude, and we almost made his ass cry. Let's get him on. We'll get him on for, dude. We'll just talk, we'll talk plane stories.

It is so much fun. Well, speaking of flights and time zones, you went across the pond. And you went to Scotland. By the way, I had to look on the map. I had to look on the map. And I was like, God damn, I am far away from Scotts Beach. I'm far from my four kids. It's in my wife.

I made probably a dumb comment. I was golfing that Tuesday. And I'll recap it with you now, but I was golfing Tuesday. And I'm like, we're right on the ocean. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, guys, I was talking to caddy. I'm like, this is probably a dumb question. But is that, is the water cold here or like, is it warmer? And the guy laughed with you guys.

He said it in his Scottish accent. He's like, he's like, dude, it's a North Sea, man. Antarctica's like literally right there. He's like, that shit is freezing. And I was like, go put your feet in. I was like, oh, my God. where are we on the globe um dude full recap so freaking sick dude left sunday night got there monday uh shout out to to the travis matthew crew like they're awesome um we had a fun dinner

monday night i actually like caught up on sleep monday night i felt pretty good tuesday gulfed um at the castle course which is hard not my favorite beautiful but impossible i i mean i picked up like 15 balls just so hard yeah Because the rough is like two feet of grass. Like, it's just, it's beautiful and it's hilly and it's all these things. But it was beautiful. Wednesday was cool as shit, man, because I golf with Reggie. Yes.

I golf with Austin Reeves. And I golf with his boy, best friend, like manager Trent, this kid named Trent, who's awesome. So overall, I say this to now, because I'm entrenched in the golf world. It is a bucket list golf item. The golf culture, the golf history, the pictures on the walls at the ball. I mean, it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty cool. Let me ask you this because every time I'm, you know, we did the big entourage reunion episode, that episode did, you know, big numbers for us.

Every time I'm with those guys, like I even, God, what did I put a, oh, like we talked last time about, you know, I put up, oh, it's been 21 years since entourage photo got millions of views. So you posted an awesome photo at Reggie, all decked out. That's kind of your version. Like, I imagine when you two, like when people see the four entourage. guys together, they're like, holy shit, they're all together, right? I always say, like, not that, you know, we're not as worthy individually, but when we're

together, it's just like a big thing. Do you have a similar thing with Reggie where it's like, when you two are together, people must be like, holy fuck, that's liner. You know what? It's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting because we worked at, we worked at Fox together for like three years. So we were together a lot. But I think, and we're not anymore, and I think just as you get older and it was such a, like, like, again, it's a perfect example. we're an iconic group, right? Everywhere you go, you're known for Turtle, but, like, when you're together,

it's like, holy hell, the guy, like, they're back, this is amazing. Yeah, it's like, you're watching the show. It just brings you back, right? You're like, the memories, right? And so as a sports, as athletes, you know, like, and honestly, I didn't even think about that. When I posted that, and that first picture

is just a dope picture of me and Reg hanging out, like, right outside the course, like, before dinner one night. And then you start to read the comments, and you're like, like, you know, the most iconic duo in college football. You just start thinking that you're like, damn dude like 20 years ago like it's crazy you know you always like he and i talk about it too like sometimes you're like man it's it's wild like 20 years ago we were we were doing this right

we were a part of a dynasty we were you know whatever so um it's always when i see reg it's always it's just always easy and fun because of the history you have it's like no time has passed right when you see each other you know we don't even god we don't even talk that much football we were talking golf or you it's just like you know we always say like that's family that's my brother man forever um and uh even if we don't see each other that often or he's doing his thing i'm doing my thing it's always it's always fun to to get together and just you know i feel like i saw something too i didn't text you about it um you commented on some random social post where they did like uh these would have been the top 10 nil people right oh i'm not

in the top 10 and liders like shrug like yeah i was i saw that forgetting someone bro i don't even know I don't know. It was on like... That was nuts. You weren't on that list. That's not a real list. I was like... They're not discredited whoever posted that.

They're not like to quote succession. I literally put that person. I did that with a shrug and that thing. Yeah, I got so many. I'm like, I'm like, listen, dude. Like, come on. Come on. I want to shoot my own horn.

With all, no, with no, not even with all due respect. I'm making millions in college if I'm fucking back, dude. Are you kidding me? I thought the same thing. By the way, that whole list, a lot of those guys are making it. But I looked at like eight and nine. I'm like, I'm definitely making more money than, like, James Winston, who I love.

Or, like, I don't even know if he was on the list. But, like, Mansell is making bank. I think he's making more than Cam Newton, too. Tebow's making bank. Cam is making bank for one, yeah, but like... But you're not not making bet. Like, you guys are up there. Maybe you're separated by a million or two, but you're both making millions.

You're on that list, bro. You're on that list. All good, dude. What, uh... I know you've had a lot going on, too. I've had a lot going on. I just had my family from New York visiting. I'm actually going to save what I wanted to talk about with my 16-year-old nephew visiting.

We're going to talk about it in our NHTSA spot coming up in a second because I think it is a crossroad for him. I think my nephew's at a serious crossroad. And we're going to have to talk about it. At 16? Damn, that's early. Yeah, but it's not a life cross. He's at a sports crossroad and we're going to have to talk about it. So, no, everything is over here been good. I'm starting to get a little anxious because for me, football now has started.

Like, my nephew and I watched all the preseason games, which I don't usually watch preseason, but I wanted to, I wanted to look at Shador a little. I wanted to see my guy Jackson Dart, Cam Ward, and then Hard Knocks started. I kind of fell out. I'm going to say it now. Hard Knocks is back. Like, for me, it fell out over COVID when they were doing the chargers all on Zoom. And I never quite got back into it. Bill's Josh Allen, Hard Knocks.

I'm back in. Loving it. That's good. The season that started for me now. How... how hard is it to hate Josh Allen? You can't. You can't.

And you're like a Giants fan. You're not really like a Bill's hater, right? You're not in the same division and all that. But like you're a Giants fan. No, not at all. I would be happy for the Bill's in their fan. I know, I know Josh.

He's just the ultimate dude. Like, he's such a great dude. And it's like when you watch, you're just like, man. Like, it's like Lamar. It's like, I don't know if there's one person that can say, like, I hate Josh Allen. like you just can't and if you do you're just a hater like there's not one person that can say like

man i just don't like lamar jackson like no like there's no reason they're not like him you can just be an absolute hater and just well the one thing that bursts off the screen on episode one of hard knocks is the team kind of feels that way too uh you know they got josh palmer now wide receiver and some other and they're it's easy to root for the bills man but they're now also doing like man i get you know i get 10 reps with josh allen throwing me the ball like i got to make these count one i forget one like tight end was like he josh allen sweated on this towel i'm just going to keep it like there's the team josh allen is an absolute superstar yeah he's the quietest super star married to haley steinfeld and the quietest superstar most normal

dude that you could imagine loves golf hangs like just a guy's guy so it started for me the anxiety that i started to get now and i'm curious for you now because you know how you now have three little ones to go along with Cole. I know I just have the two. And dad's, mom's parents out there, I'm not going to just, you know,

make this a dad thing. But the football watching as you have kids certainly gets more challenging, right? How do you balance the weekend with that? Last year I made a great deal with Bree where she would take the boys out of the house. I had to watch football for throwbacks,

much like I'll have to do this year, season two coming up. You got an adult and excuse. And my thing was like, All right, well, while I'm watching, I'll like food prep. You know, that was my thing. I'll chop up some veggies. I'll get the chicken ready.

I'll just like, I'll do, because then I'll do you'll do something so that you don't, she doesn't say get off your lazy ass off the couch. She wants more because I didn't really hold up my end. So we're early negotiations now. Well, your first problem is that you're going to cut up veggies. Like, come on, dude, you're not going to cut up veggies. I did it for the first three weeks of the season and then it was over. That's a terrible.

But what's it like for you now? Because this is now your first season, because your daughter was born. right at the Super Bowl. This is now your first season as a father of three young ones. It's harder. Sunday like in the lineup house. It's harder for me, man,

because I travel Thursday to Saturday night, right? So I miss the weekend pretty much. So I miss Friday. I miss Coles football games on Friday nights would kill me. I miss Saturday morning, soccer, baseball. Some things are on Sunday,

but I think baseball's on Saturday. Everything happens on Saturday. Yeah, like here, here, the fall. Sundays are football sometimes. Like they're Saturday. So like you get that. But I pretty much miss everything of my kids. And that's just how it's been. Josie's, it is what it is. Like we're, it's okay. It is what it is. But when I get home Saturday night, I get home and then Sunday morning, I'll wake up with the kids. And like, but then to your point, dude, I got a decision to make because it starts at 10 a.m. over here. And I'm yeah. Sunday. You know, like I'm not going to be glued to

the TV, but make no mistake. I'm very well aware of what's going on. So. Yeah, my whole thing is I, I'm actually going to ask the audience, feel free to hit me or throwbacks on Twitter. Is it right me? Like, I need some ideas that could just make this. Because I'm very much one o'clock. I want to be on. I'm a red zone guy between the bet, you know, because I'm in a legal gambling state. So I got the bets. I got the fantasy. I got the giants. That would be tough. Multiple TVs. I'm all over. So I actually need help from guys out there. I'm phoning a friend in the audience. What can I offer my wife? You can she's not going to be like, no, you can't watch, but that's just, I want the four hours

uninterrupted. I don't want, I don't want to move from that spot for four hours. I don't like to be in and out. I do in and out for like night games, the West Coast game. Then I could pop in and out, but those East Coast, 1 p.m. because it's you, I just need it. I have to have it. I have to have to have the four hours. Yeah, there's got to be, I mean, fellas out there's got to be some negotiation or is there just like, hey, don't bother me on Sunday. If you don't, if you don't have kids, it's a lot easier. But if you do have kids, Yeah, send help, please.

And now if your kids are getting into the age where they can sit and watch a little ball with you, which yours are getting there. We're getting there. You're close. You're close. We're close to. But yeah, it's...

I don't know how much preseason you watch. Like I said, I always like watch preseason, but I don't watch like big, big time. But I did because I was really interested in all the quarterback stuff. And look, I don't, I do not fall for the pre. No one should fall for the preseason stuff. I just don't think you can. Who the hell knows what any of it means?

All I know is my, my takeaways from when I saw from the QBs, and I'm curious to hear yours. And the what's real and what's just like, hey, that's good reps, but don't know if that actually matters when you play an NFL game. That's not preseason. The Browns, man, that is going to be a media frenzy. What I mean by that is like if Flacco is like one and three looks 40 years old, Chador plays maybe one more good preseason game

and then we don't like, they're going to be calling for every talking head show is going to lead off with Shador said, like what are they doing? It's going to be everywhere. It's going to be the biggest story of football. Well, first of all, I will say this. I do, I will tell you this, every, as a quarterback especially, every preseason rep matters.

So whether it's Jackson Dart, whether it's Camboard, every situation is different, right? There's not a ton of pressure on Jackson Dart to go out there and ball. There's just not. You got two dudes that have played a long time. And he's not going to start week one. There's almost not even a lot of pressure on Cam Ward, even though he's the number one pick.

And in a way, like, he's going to start regardless. So you just go out there and you get better. There's expectations, but there's not expectations yet, right, for Cam Ward. Like, Tennessee has been bad. The Shador Sanders thing is crazy, right? It's like, and everybody's talked about it. But I looked at that game last week, and everyone's like, oh, he's set up to fail and all this like at the end of the day that's that's bullshit dude like it's the NFL like you like if you

don't get first team reps you get mental reps like you get maybe backup you get third and and you go in there and if you ball out you've like but you've changed the whole narrative if you don't then you don't man it's it's it's it's football it's like the opportunity so like all of that when people are saying is just stupid like that that makes no sense now all that being said the kid balled out dude like he played really well and I think if anything it shows for him that like this dude has had a bull's eye on his back the minute that draft started um for whatever reason and then he gets drafted in the fifth round and then he's fourth on the depth chart he's still fourth on the judge even after the game he's still like third or fourth

on the depth chart like it's just like you said it's a story and it's always going to it's going to get it's going to be like a snowball what he showed was not what he showed was not only only can he play because he can play. Everyone knows he can play at that level. I think he can be a starter in the NFL given the right guys around. Like he for sure can. I just, I believe that. Now, you know,

it's up to him. But he just showed man how to handle like he handled all of that shit and went out there and just balled. Did his job. He bawled out. Did his job. Preseason whatever. So to me, when I'm looking at young quarterbacks, it's like

we know they all have the physical tools. every quarterback that gets drafted can throw it, can run, whatever, you know, and he's got a high IQ, he's been around the game, his dad's, you know, Dion, all these things. But to be able to handle that, all the other mental stuff, that's like 80% of the game, dude. Can you just handle pressure of being a quarterback in the NFL? I know it's only one game, man, but like, I took a lot from that. Like, the dude basically shut up a lot of people. He went out and played really well in not great circumstances, right? Because he doesn't get a lot of reps. And he's, he is, is going to make it really hard on the Cleveland Browns.

That's what I'm basically saying. We are heading toward that moment. But real quick, Jerry, he's, this is a preseason, coaches always told us this. Even vets, it is a job interview every time you step foot on the field. And by the way, every practice, too, because now they have all these joint practices where you, I'm in Arizona, we play the Giants five straight days. Like, the Giants are evaluating our roster too.

Just like we're, you know, like, so you're like, Oh, dude, Liner ripped us apart three days in a row. Like, we like him. Like, if they ever cut him, like, hey, like, we want to. That happens all the time. So that's why, like, every practice matters. Even in one-on-ones, every practice and every rep matters for all positions. So every time you step foot on a preseason game, like, you are putting film out there for all other 31 NFL teams to either pick you up on a practice squad to sign you, you know, as a free agent.

to put down in your notes, like, hey, we really like Shador that, like, maybe if something happens next, like, they are making notes. Like, this is professional football. I just, like, I've felt, I will never fall for this thing. And I think this is relevant for football as it is with me with acting. You know, we always talk about, like, the table reading and, like, these rehearsals. All these things that are like, look, it's a table read. Like, it counts, but it doesn't count.

Go there. You have to, like, kind of know your lines. You have your script in front of you. You're not supposed to act. it out, hardcore, but give them enough. It's for the writers to hear what's worth. I've seen more people fired off of the table read that doesn't matter. I've seen maybe, in my 20-some-odd year career, I've seen seven people fired off

a table readings that don't matter. Yeah. So you're right. It's the same thing. I'm excited for what we're about to do right now. Okay. I've been waiting for this. It's going to involve my nephew.

and some scorching hot takes, okay? But I thought it was good to do it with NHTSA, okay? Because now we're doing crossroads presented by NHTSA. The next time you're out drinking, call a ride share, a taxi, a sober friend, or a designated sober driver. The only decision that will change your world for the better is the decision to call for a sober ride. Drive sober or get pulled over.

Now, we discussed a few crossroads that we could do. We like to look back at our careers and think about crossword. roads. So I just had the visit from the family out of New York came to visit with me, 16 year old nephew, senior in high school, about to play's last year football, love sports, really into football now. Matt, he is in a crossroads, okay? His crossroad is, are you going to be the scorching hot take guy that just says the thing to get people infuriated and start a sports argument? Because that's all he did for five straight days. was throw things out.

I kept the log of his takes. Well, let me tell you some really quick. So he's 16. So he's... 16. So he's still Gen Z. Yes. Because Gen Alpha is like this newest one,

which I believe is 2012 and on or something. So he falls under the Gen Z, which so does Cole. So this generation is just full of fucking shit thing. Yeah, so I'm going to read you a few. You can tell me if they're, Like hot takes you like Or they like our friends

A freezing cold take Yeah okay And again some I think we're trolling And then I got his ones That he was dead serious about Okay Here was his biggest one He's dead serious

This one I believe he's dead serious He will walk it If you ran into him on the street And you brought it up to him He would walk it back Because I just annihilated this take But when he said it He was serious okay

Okay He believes Justin Herbert Is better than Joe Burrow That's the first half of the take. Part two of the take is if Justin Herbert was on the Bengals last year and had that roster on offense, he

would have maybe led them to the Super Bowl. Hot scorching take you like or ice cold take? I think that it's so, it's funny. I think it's a, I don't think it's a right take but I don't think it's that it's not ice cold. It's not

ice cold. I do think well, one, Burrow I get Burrow better than Herbert like, I mean, Yeah, based on the body of work and based on like consistency, he's been like all that. I would say, yeah. Now, they're in completely, again, this is where you just dive into it, right? Completely different offenses. You know, Herbert doesn't have Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and like they don't throw the ball of

the yard. They're much different. So like in that regard, okay, I can see. But Burrow is at this point, he is better than. What more do you want the guy to do? What more could he do with that offense, Burrow? Like, well, the defense was the problem. No, I know.

And he still had an MVP year. Yeah. So, so I agree. I think that's wrong. Now, if you could put, if you put Herbert, these are all the hypotheticals, right? So, I know, I love it. But I think it's almost borderline cold tape. You put Herbert, Herbert in the Cincinnati Bengals, are, is he going to have better numbers?

Are they better? No, they're not better. They're not better. Now, he would be better. He would be better. I think he would have similar type of numbers because Herbert is freakishly talented. But to say they're going to go to the Super Bowl, like you still, like you said, like, their defense was trash. All right.

So, we'll call that a mid-take. It's not, it's lukewarm. It's a, that's a, you can have an opinion. You could probably back it up with some of your own facts that you think. But to say Herbert is better than bro at this point, his career is false. Well, buckle up now because now these are the ones he is dead serious about. There's no hedging. Okay.

What if I agree? What if I agree with one of these? That's great. No, I agree with some of what he says. Josh Allen, who he loves, who we just discussed, wins back to back. MVP and leads the bills to the one seed. Back-to-back MVP for Alan and the one seed. For sure.

That's for sure. So hot take you like. That's not that hot of a take. Okay. Well, this one is pretty hot. Chiefs don't win the division. So now you're looking at Chargers or Broncos, because I don't know if the Raiders with Gino.

By the way, everyone's on the Broncos band. That's a great freaking tip. I like that. Is it, though? Everyone's on the Broncos bandwagon, and I get it, like, but, so Bo Nix is going to unseat, like you can almost write the chiefs in

for like 13 wins every year, even when they're bad. Yeah, no, that's true. I just, I don't think that's, I don't think that's that far off. Okay. This one, Lions don't win the division.

NFC North. He has the Packers, and he even has the Bears, too, in the division being sneaky. winning way more games than people think but he has the Packers winning the NFC North and he does not

think the Lions will fall back a little bit this year. I thought that's a freezing cold take. I don't think so. Freezing cold. No? Dude, they lost Ben Johnson, dude. Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson is... He has another take involving Ben Johnson coming up.

By the way, what's your nephew's name again? Anthony. I love this kid. I love this kid. Oh, God. Oh, God. Okay. By the way, I think, look, I mean, break down the lines. Culture's there. It's a tough team. A lot of guys in their place.

And they had a lot of injuries last year. Like, they're going to be healthier this year. But they lose a freaking stud as a play caller. Like, they just do. Yeah, and you, that's something you believe in. It is just, oh, my gosh. Like, with golf and the way they, like, they lose that. So that, it all depends.

Now, that's a winning team now, which is crazy to say. about the Lions. But, I mean, the Packers are right there every year. Like, that's not like, that's one or two games away and then the Packers win. I don't think the Bears are there yet either. Like, there's too many question marks. But I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, that's not that freezing of a take. It's a hot take, but that's not a freezing. I think it's freezing called. The Lions are just loaded. I know they lost Ben Johnson. I get it. Unless Gothen has to have Ben Johnson, they're so loaded. This is a fantasy take and it involves the Bears and Ben Johnson. DeAndre Swift will have an elite fantasy year

because of Ben Johnson and the fixed offensive line. If he, yes. I think he gets hurt too much. Well, that's what I'm saying. If he stays healthy, which is a big if, he could have a Jemir Gibbs type role in that offense. That's who he is. DeAndre Swift is explosive.

Yes, he is big players. You got a thing, man, like Kyle Shanahan, OC, he's a head coach, but he's an OC, how great those off, just how well, the strategy, the game plans. They're just, they're second to none. Sean McVeigh, same. Kingsbury, I think, is up there what he was able to do, Jaden Daniels last year with not a lot of pieces around him. Yeah. Ben Johnson is just, he's proven that. Now, head coach, you have a little more responsibility, but he's still going to call plays. DeAndre Swift is like a fantasy sleeper this year. If he can

stay healthy. I draft him every year. Yeah, I know. And he's one of those that's like he has four or five games that are great and then he has that eagle season was sneaky great so a while and then fell apart there's an opportunity there for dandre swift to have a massive year i totally agree i'm gonna skip over these other ones because they're not really that hate these aren't that bad so the last one that he sent me just now from football camp okay for he took a break on his water break he sent me a scorcher the fact that he has his phone out there on the practice field just says well i'll give him grace maybe he hasn't arrived yet because it's only 12 he said he was going to camp Tyreek Hill will have a very rough year and officially be deemed washed.

That's a take, bro. That's a tough one, man. We've been saying that for like three years. He left the chiefs. Tyree Kill's going to drop off. But last year, so, yeah, so it's so funny because I'm, you know, me, I'm dialed in on fantasy. So, like, Tyree Kill is showing up on, like, every mock draft that I do in, like, the third round. Like, he's definitely dropped.

He's definitely fallen because a lot of that is because a lot linked to him, right? Because it's Tua, like, Tua missed, like, six games last year, and they had nobody. So, like, dude, you can't, like, just nothing you can do when you have a quarter, like, and I don't think they had a great, like, they just didn't have a lot at that position last year. So he's getting one catch a game. So that's why there's obviously some, you know, hesitancy coming into this year. I think, again, Tua healthy, Tyreeks can have a big year.

Like, it's the same thing with Jaylon Wilde. Yeah, I think it's a freezing cold take. Because also, if Tua... Who are the Dolphins backup quarter? quarterback, though. I know they drafted Quinn Ewers, but yeah, I don't know, actually. Andrew, I don't know if we know off the top of our head.

Did they get somebody new? Because they were not great. I just look at it like this, God forbid, and I don't ever want to see Tua get hurt because he's had too many injuries. But if Tua's hurt again, Dauphin's having a rough year, is Tyree Kill not a trade candidate, you would think? Because, and then if you put, like, if you put Tyree Kill,

oh God, Zach Wilson is their backup. I guess he could be a little frisky. That's much better than what they've had. But if Tyreek Hill gets traded to, like, the Chargers, Justin Herbert, I don't really see a big drop-offs. I think that's a freezing cold tape. It's Tua, I mean, Tua, what, two years ago played, I think, every game, right? Like, I know a couple years ago is bad. Like, he had a year, and then Tyreek had a massive year.

That's why, like, Jalen Waddle is going, like, fifth round, because it's like, they just don't know. Like, those guys are solely reliant on Tua being healthy because some other teams have good backups. They can still distribute the ball. You're still going to get your points. like dolphins. Now, Zach Wilson's a major upgrade. Like, Zach Wilson can play. Like, he's, he might not be a long-term start, but the dude can come in and play for three or four games. He'll come in and win a game as he proved. Yeah. And he's got good weapon. And he's got, he's got McDaniel, who's a great coach, offensive-minded coach. So yeah, I'm, look, I want to say this,

dude, I don't, I don't necessarily think all of those, I think the Herbert better than Burrough is a, is a cold, is a freezing cold take. But everything else, I'm kind of in alignment. I don't know. I'm kind of in alignment with our boy. I would book your guys as bets. If you wanted to bet that the Chiefs won't win the division and the Lions won't win the division, I would book all those bets.

I think everyone's falling in love with the Broncos and they're falling in love with the Packers and they're good teams, but they are not the best team. Injuries, who knows. I would put more money on the Chiefs winning the division than the Lions. I just think, and I think the Lions are really good.

I just think you lose a play caller like that. And again, they might not miss a beat. But they're getting Aiden Hutchinson back. That's got a matter a little bit. Green Bay is really good too. Minnesota, I think, is going to be sneaky good. I think Jay J.J. McCarthy's going to be pretty good. Good stuff. Who's the other?

Who do we have? We have Detroit. Oh, Chicago. Chicago. I'm not Chicago finishing second in that division, though. That's for sure. Shout out to NHTSA and to my nephew, Anthony, who is getting his license soon. So buckle up.

No texting and driving. None of that stuff. We'll have that conversation a thousand times before you get your license. Do you have any excitement for, Madden 26? I always do. I just signed a sign my signature to be in the game. You're in Madden.

Yeah, Madden and college football. Well, college football for sure. So are they on what I want... I mean, I don't know who's playing with me in Madden, but I think I'll be on a roster. Hey, look, if you get a Madden ultimate team liner juiced up to like 95 with lefty, I mean, I would mess with you. Madden has got to be like a 55.

No, no, no. That's ridiculous. You're not 55. Yeah. Madden, college football, those are about the two games that I'll play. Well, I played with my nephew while he was here and like, not 26, 25. I know the trial's out. And it was fun for a second.

I'm like, I need the rookies. I need the update. So there are seven 99s in Madden so far this year. 799s in Madden. And I have the people. positions, because I think it's hard to just blind guess them, but let's do a little blind, because I have not looked at this, and I don't think you have either.

No. There's two QBs, two wide receivers, a running back, a right tackle, and a D-end. Okay? You want to go first? I have not looked at this either. I don't know, seven. Well, I mean, I can guess both quarterbacks.

QBs has to be Josh Allen, right? Yep. And I'm going to stick with Mahomes. No, I would go Lamar Jackson. Okay. All right. I think you were correct. I don't know.

Mahomes? This is always a 99 to me. I'll go receiver first because this one's easy. Jamar Chase. Yep. There's another one now. For my number two, I had, I was going to go Justin Jefferson. It has to be.

Justin Jefferson. Okay. So Josh and Alamar, Chase. Now it starts to get interesting running back because I can make the case for two guys. I can make the case for two guys. You're going off of last year, dude. Just put his name down. It's very simple.

Sequin? Yes. I was going to make the case for Bijon. Yeah, but he hasn't. Or Bricon just rushed for 2,000 yards. So they're going off of last year and like he's on the best team in the NFL. Right tackle, bro. Let's see how much NFL you know.

I have one name in mind. I don't even know. It's the only one. Yeah. And is he definitely a right tackle? I'm hoping I'm correct. Pena Sewell? I was going to say, I was going to say Trent Williams.

Trent Williams? No. No. wrong. Oh, the dude from the, the Bucks. Oh, who's the the tackle from the Bucks? No.

Give us one more letter. Give us, we have someone right. NFC. East. Oh, Eagles. Not Andrew Thomas. Lane Johnson? Lane Johnson's a 99? That's crazy.

That's a lane. D.N. All right, this could be one of two. I think it's an obvious. one, but... I got T.J. Watt? I was... I was going to put Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons? No.

No? Oh, I know. I know. I got it. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. Okay. Those are 99s. So, 799s. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase, Jay Jetta, Sequin, Lane Johnson, Miles Garrett. That's solid. That's solid. Yeah. I don't know.

The Lane Johnson one broke my brain a little bit. Well, that's because you don't know many offensive... Well, what... You know, we watched the draft together we were at the draft what i always love the rookies what rookie just after four games madden and with the regular season when they do their madden updates what rookie is going to get the biggest point overall john i'm looking right now you know what you know what i think is let's see i think ashton gentie is going to be an absolute star yeah just he's going to walk in right away and be a 1,400-yard back,

especially the way, like, Pete will use them, like, they use Marchion and just to run the ball. I think, I think Travis Hunter, dude. Like, that seems obvious, but, like, no one's really talked about him. And, like, the first game he had what he, he started at receiver, and he played, like, 10 or 15 snaps on defense, which I think, I mean, he's just, like, he's going to have a bunch of catches this year. He's just going to have a good,

I mean, he's going to have probably 70 to 80 catches this year as a receiver in that offense with him and Brian Thomas. And then on defense, like, if he has, you know, a couple games, picks like that, like talk about a skyrocket overall. I don't even know what his overall is. Can we find out what's his overall going in? He's probably in the 80s maybe. Yeah, he must be.

I'm going to be a homer here. I think it's going to be Abdul Carter. But I like what you said about Hunter is like, because he can get the boost on offense and defense. So he might actually gain the most points that way. But from all I'm hearing, Abdul, Abdul Carter is just all. Another one, Omari and Hampton. He'll be going to start for the Chargers at Running Back.

And we know what Jimmy H likes to do out there. Run the ball. And then the other one who's making some noise, who's going to be good as a Mecca, Ibuka. The first round, Ohio Statewide receiver, he's in Tampa. So they throw the ball all over the yard. I think Godwin is still out, right? God wants hurt. Evans is awesome, but he's getting older. Like, they'll

Baker throw the ball 50 times a game. Well, I want you one-on-one and Madden online when it drops officially. We should stream it. You don't want, oh, you don't want that smoke, dude. I want it all. I want it all. Every time you challenge me to a game, you leave getting your feelings hurt. Do you know, Matt, trivia for you? Matt's Madden. I was going to ask you that. I didn't know if you saw it. Oh, it's in the chat. Your rookie rating in Madden. 81. 81. In 2012, what a fall from grace. But you weren't a 55, buddy. 81 to 73 is actually not that bad of a jump over that big of a falloff.

Not that big of a fall off. I think it would have been... I think they should do that for actors. Like, Madden ratings for actors. 2008, I was in 85? Yeah, but... Well, because I played 06. My 06, I played well.

O7, I played five games, and I was playing while I broke my arm. I was out. So going into 08. I was still projected to probably be the starter or at least compete with Kurt and then it was downhill from there. What was my speed, though?

That might have been a 55. Gotta be in the 50s. That might have been 55. Yeah, that's fine, dude. Running is on my forte. I'm probably faster now than I was. 59 speed for Maddie Ice, the real Maddie Ice.

Hey, dude, you're still in the game and you're back in the game. I'm back in the game. All right, we're back, and it's time for all-time adventures driven by Nissan, the 2025, Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek, adventure ready, and free from new tariffs. So usually we like to discuss a personal adventure that we had, but there's something that stuck out to me this past weekend all throughout preseason. And I don't know, I guess, for me, he kind of is like, if you would describe a coach as a car, I feel like Vrable is like the, And I mean this in a great way. Like, he is like the like a pathfinder, Rock Creek.

I think tough, adventurous, rugged, off-road with him, could kind of do whatever you need. Versatile. Well, Rabel was left bloodied after diving into a skirmish during a joint practice between the paths and the commanders. Matt, we're going to do a little snake draft of coaches we would most likely want on our side of the fight. But right before we do that, if you saw your coach dive into a skirmish at one of those,

we all see the videos of the joint practice fight and he got up bloody oh hell yeah this is my guy right here does that fire you up or you just like what is he i mean like i feel like someone like brable you don't need to feel that way because of who he is and his personality and he played lineback in the league forever so like and he's already tough and hard nose so i think it's more like when you see that you're just like oh oh shit coach just got coach's got the fight like I think you're just more like laughing at it because that's just the type of attitude he already has. You know what I mean? Like if it was someone like, like, even like Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll used to dive in like dive and walkthroughs on goal line and just dive over like no helmet just because he was so energetic.

But like 72 year old Pete Carroll like diving in the middle of the scourge coming out bloodied, I would like, I'm like, okay, Pete, you still got it. You know, like so it all depends on who. But yeah, Braybill, dude. What a beast. All right. So the snake drafted? We're going to snake draft. I feel like there's some obvious ones.

So whoever, if I, if there's only two of us, if I get first picked, then that means you get two in a row. Then I get two in a row and then you close it out. For three, we're doing three. Yes, we're doing three. All right, well, I'm going to go Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell, absolutely. That's just someone you want in the trenches.

If you're walking down an alley and you want Dan Campbell on your side. 100%. And then to that degree, the obvious next choice is Vrable. 100%. my next snake pick he's kind of quiet when they cut to him on the sideline you don't really know what he's thinking

he was a big strong dude I just feel like he when he goes he becomes the incredible Hulk I'm going Todd Bowles Tampa I don't know man I feel like when he goes you missed an obvious one who

D'emico Ryan's bro Damico Ryan's played in the league he's a middle linebacker for 12 years in the NFL I played with them Domeco Rines is a super nice guy he's the best but he's he's an animal dude so like he handles it oh bro that's yeah you miss that one that that that's a no-brainer all right so you got you got your last pick

uh hmm so i'm going more i'm gonna go more youth than like a todd bulls because todd bulls is tough as nails but he's a little bit older i'm going sean macbay you like that don't you i do like mcvay and he's jacked he's jacked i feel like if you're like if you're like if you're in a fight with McVey because he's not that tall. I feel like he's just going straight for the fucking ankles. I think he's just going down and like he's like kicking you in your shin like a UFC fighter

and then he's just like he's just he's like a bulldog. He's a bulldog. You are going to hate my last pick. By the way, I mean I'm already, I've already completely dominated you but okay. You're going to hate my last pick and no one's going to get it and I've done this before where I've said

things that no one gets and I've been proven true. Can I get a can I get could I get like a division? So I'll have one of four. AFC East. And it's not Brable. So there you go. You have three picks left.

So AFC East, you got the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Bills. Go back. It's not Sean McDermott. It's Mike McDaniel. And here's why. Stay with me. Don't fall off. No, don't fall asleep.

Don't roll your eyes. He looks kind of crazy to me. That's for sure. I feel like I'm not, I don't feel like it actually gets. physical. I feel like he does like some Jim Carrey crazy things that you're kind of like, whoa, I met this guy's actually certifiably insane. Also, wouldn't be shocked if he was like a fourth degree Brazilian Jiginzen Black Belt? Would you be shocked if you heard that about Mike McDaniel? Bro, I love Mike McDaniel, but he's probably like he just chokes out.

D'Amico Ryan's probably a buck 75 soaking wet. With my McDaniel pick, I'm hoping it actually doesn't get physical. And he just, like I said, he just actually. crazy and does some crazy shit and everybody's like, we're out, we're leaving this alone. That's why I might be Daniel pick. You got to have a personality. If you can't just pick the biggest, strongest guy. I didn't. It can't always be that.

Sean McVeigh's actually quite small. He's jacked. He's probably got 30, 40 pounds on Mike. I do love, though. I do, I think, I do love the Harbaugh's, but, you know, again, Jim doesn't walk very well. Jim, talk about some screws loose now. But you feel like it would be like a Nolan, Ryan,

Robin Ventura. Yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking more youthful, right? Like, Dan Campbell's still younger. D'Amico's like my age. And McVeigh is younger than me. So, you know, like, they're just, they got more energy. They got more juice. Before we talk about our Wendy's flavor, I do want to tease something.

We're going to be in L.A. next week in person, in studio, which we, you know, we get to do every now and then. I don't want to say it's huge throwbacks news, but. it is a pretty big. There will be some big breaking news that we're going to break on the show next week. I'm not going to spoil anything more. Don't ask questions. You like to try to get hints out of me and stuff like that. I'm not giving any hints.

Bigger, I mean, bigger than Taylor Swift joining the podcast world? I think it rivals. Are you breaking news? We're breaking news on throwbacks next week? I'm going to break some news on throwbacks next week. So make sure you set your reminders on the YouTube.

our episode will be coming out next week. Is it, like, is it, is it, will I be excited about? Like, what, I don't, I think, it's good news. We're breaking good thing. I'm not saying, like, I'm stepping away from the show for a little bit. It's good, it's a good, it's good, it's good breaking news. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Let's go. Look for that. Let's go. Look for that next week. And if you're lucky, I will even bring you a Wendy's Frosty Fusion flavor, okay? Because it is now time. I get to see you, hold on. I get to see you in person for a week.

and we get breaking news. And we get breaking news. We're going to get the boys together. My kids are going to get to see what other kids who are born athletic look like. I don't want to laugh, but it's probably partially true. Yeah, it's probably partially true. Hey, look, what they don't have in height, speed, and strength,

they make up with grit determination and witty, cute, wild behavior. So it'll be fun getting the boys together. be fun. Oh, man. I'm excited, dude. All right. Let's break the internet next week. Yeah, we're going to break some stuff. What we're not going to break is our flavor of the week presented by Wendy's. Find your new favorite Frosty Fusions flavor today with choices like Oreo, brownie, caramel crunch is for you, and Pop Tarts, Strawberry. Thought long and hard about this one when looking at this past week events. Did you follow the Portland

Pickles fan appreciation night story? A story that not many people are probably covering on their show today. All I saw is, all I heard and saw was fan comes from the stance. It just hits an absolute nuke over the fence. That's all I saw. I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. Right. The backstory is they selected a random fan. We're air quoting random fan to come down, take an app bat. He walked in his first at bat, stole a base, eventually came around the score. So they give him another at bat and he homered. So now on social media, all the conspiracy theorists think they uncovered something

that Dixie appears to be Eli Steinhouse, a sophomore college baseball player at D3, Lewis and Clark College. And there's a whole Reddit thread saying that he's an intern actually for the picture. Oh, the truth comes out. Is this conspiracy

or is this flavor of the week? I think it's for sure, it was for sure staged. Now, now, the dude. It's still hard to do as a D3 ball player. I think for that, like, hitting a home run is just icing on the cake. Now, in the pitch, like the dude just threw it right down the middle, like a meatball, right? Yeah, but you still have to get it out.

Yeah, so that part to hit an actual home run just made it even bigger and made it exactly what it's become, a viral video. And it's great for- But what a story that would be if he truly was like, I kind of play on like D3. I'm not really playing just comes out. That'd be like my ultimate dream, like doing like we did the, this has very Savannah Banana feel too. I was going to say it feels like they borrowed from the Savannah.

Yeah, when you look at, because I did a little deep dive, and I saw a couple of videos, and they, like, they'll wear, like, big gloves. Like, they'll do some fun, like, some more fun interaction stuff, but... Well, if this were for real, and we were actually going to throw a fan in a sporting event, and let's just say he's, like, a D3 athlete, right? Like, he's good athlete. He's not D1, but he's not, like, some of the guys, like, you know, who do, like, free throws at a basketball game, they're even look athletic. but can't reach. They've never played basketball before. Let's just say a mildly decent athlete.

What's the most doable? Catching a touchdown pass. Yeah, professional. Now, I have some really hard ones and some maybe more doable. Hitting a home run like this kid did. I mean, that's impossible almost. Getting a yard as a running back.

I know Sequin answered that question on New Heights, right? Like, can you... I feel like I could sneak out of a yard, Matt. I really... If I just get it and just dive low, I'm so short. I'm so short. But you're already starting like six yards back. I know.

If I just run and die, I'm so short. Like, you're not moving, though. Like, you have no lateral movement. So you just, you just pray to God that there's a hole that's one yard. And by the way, that hole closes just like that in less time. But again, I feel like I will have the lowest. There's only been like two running backs who are even remotely close to my size. So I just think that no one's used to tackling a 5-5 running back.

I think I could do. Scoring a goal in hockey, hitting a three in basketball. But now remember, you're getting covered, though. You're getting covered. Yeah, no. Sack fly in baseball? Do you think someone could just get like a sack fly? I feel like that's doable.

And a birdie on like a pebble beach or even like in the Scotland on a par three, which I think that's probably the most doable. Well, I'm telling you what's not is baseball. a random semi like okay like I'll just put myself good athlete obviously I was a but like at this age played a lot of baseball there is no chance I'm hitting a 98 mile an hour fastball there's no chance there's no chance I'm hitting a 79 mile an hour Clayton kershaw curveball so and I mean you can get lucky and hope that you put your bat on it but even like hitting a home run I think the baseball I think catching a touchdown pass take baseball out zero chance I think catching a touchdown pass too

that's a zero no I feel like If they're playing zone and you're just kind of running around. Like if I'm lined up against sauce guard. No, yeah. Hitting a three in basketball, that's possible just because the deep, I mean, just it just depends. Are they just throwing, are they playing? Are they covering you like a glove?

Let's just say they don't know the three is coming, right? Like, I think if like a six, six. I think you could hit a three in basketball. If they're not. Remember, no one's like they're, you're right. They don't play any defense. You're just running around all of a sudden you get a kick out. You could hit a three if you have any set.

Scoring a goal in hockey would be virtually I would say in my opinion getting one yard as a running back or hitting a three in basketball because I do think as a running back

you could line up like two yards behind the quarterback and do like a tush push type of thing ideally. That would hurt so bad. That would hurt so bad.

You would not like that. You would not like that feeling. You'd probably break multiple bones just by getting hit once. I just think I could get a yard, dude. I'm not saying, every time. I'm not saying I'm getting one yard every time. I think I have like a 50-50 shot of getting

very close to getting one yard. You might have to bring the sticks out. You might have to bring the sticks out and measure it. But I think I'm getting very close. I'm thinking about it. I think a birdie on a tough part three. If you have got it, I guess you could get lucky. That's probably do. You can hit like worm burners. You could like. Yeah, but like a birdie. Like you have to hit a ball. And you have to hit the put. Yeah. They have to hit the put. That's hard. dude i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with hitting a three in hoops and uh i think getting a yard as an rb even though i i really think that's challenging but i think you could scheme to where you could get a yard i mean you at like six five with 59 overall speed and madden it it was tough for me

to get a yard and i was even when the pocket broke down running i'm like oh my god dude let's do two mail bags i got one for you and then i'll take one okay uh this one is from dennis in norleans Shuck territory. Matt, I think we all assume that the Bush push, and you just saw your boy Reggie, was your favorite touchdown of your career. But do you have a favorite or memorable touchdown from your career? That's not the Bush Push. That's a good question. I mean, my first ever pass I threw in college was a touchdown. First ever start, first ever pass. We got a fumble recovery. What was it? What's the, yeah, what's the Auburn? We were, we, they fumbled. We got the ball in like the 10 yard line going in in the first course my first ever start again Auburn was

legit they were like top five yeah we ran a little stick nod which is like a little five yard out kind of a and then nod to the middle of the end zone with Mike Williams and I threw a touchdown so that's pretty cool I would say one for one for with one TD as you're opening I would say this my my most the one that sticks out is obviously your first like NFL touchdown pass I threw against real one was against the chiefs on a freaking on a deep post to Anquan which is pretty awesome my first NFL rushing touchdown, dude. How many NFL rushing touchdowns do you have? Is that your first and only?

Maybe three. I had two that year. That's probably it, too. So I had one against them and I had one against, I had one against the Detroit Lions, my first one, like week eight or nine. And I remember running in and I was like, and I remember taking the ball because I'm like this.

I'm taking this. My first rush and touchdown, I kind of go across a goal line and I kind of turn like, because there were guys there, but DBs don't want to hit in the NFL, not really. Was it like QB draw, like you're on the half yard line? It was just like a broken down play in like the five or six yard line of pass. I just kind of rolled around and then I just kind of dove in and I kind of turned and kind of just dove in with my back kind of facing, you know, like to like shield for a hit and no one touched me.

So, but I got a touchdown and I spiked the shit out of the ball, which is awesome. I think I still had that ball. It was like, you know, Detroit Lions October or whatever, 2006. Did that just feel great like getting a rushing TV? It was just fun, dude, because like I, yeah, because I don't run the ball and. I remember, I think Larry or Anquan were like, bro, what are you doing? Like, get it up.

I was like, oh, I was so fired up. And then, honestly, while we're on the topic, my other touchdown that year was against the Cowboys. And it was against Roy Williams. Was it Roy Williams? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So I'm running a bootleg on, like, the two-yard line, right? So I'm faking. And I keep the ball to run, like one of those. Like, a really good thing. Designed. Designed. I think we leaked someone out in the back, but it was designed to go in.

And, dude, it's so good. I threw the old, I threw the old okie-doke fake pass to nobody against Roy. He jumped up and I scored, dude. That's got to be, it's got to be somewhere on highlights. You got to find it. It was the old, like, run it. And he's right there. And he left his feet on the pump fake?

He left his feet because I went, I look back and I go, boom, the old fake. And he just jumped a little bit. And then I beat him to the corner of the end zone against Roy Williams. That shit was funny, dude. Must have felt real good because that you looked like you do that stuff all the time. Yeah, but I just wasn't a great runner, dude. I just was like, I wasn't slow. Like, I'll say this.

I wasn't, I was just big and gangly. Like, I wasn't like super slow. Like, I could move well enough, like back, for sure. Like, I really could. Like, I wasn't like a statue. Like, I could move a little bit, get some yards and all that. I just never had to. But like, obviously, I'm not the guy, what the guys are today.

All right. I'm going to take this one. Which one do that? You want to Kyle? Kyle from Los Angeles. Oh, this is for me or for you? For me. This one's for me. Matt, I remember you saying that Edron James is one of the best teammates you ever had.

Jerry, from an acting standpoint, who are the best teammates that you had? So I thought about this a lot when I saw these mail-bad questions. That's a great question. It is, but I'm going to flip it because there's just obvious answers, right? Like my stuff with Kevin Dillon, who played Johnny Drama. Like, I just had a front row seat to watching what I think is one of the funniest dudes, unintentionally and intentionally funny ever to be on screen. So it's easy to say Dylan and the Entourage guys.

And I even had a great power cast. But I'm just going to segue off acting for a minute because there's so many departments on the crew, right? I did this movie, Sully, about Sully Sulliver who landed the plane in the Hudson River. Clint Eastwood directed in. Now, I got cut out of most of the movie and I was told it's not my fault. That why I got cut. It was a time-length thing.

Sure, I'll accept that, Clint. But I played one of the, like, Coast Guard rescue crew, divers who dive into the Hudson and start rescuing people passengers, right? And we did that in the Hudson River, and I had a jump out of a helicopter, not as many feet as you would think, but into the Hudson River, and start saving people in full scuba gear. And then we had to do the rest of it in the water tank. I think the same water tank they shot some Jaws stuff in at Universal. and they should have used like a real person.

I did the stunt and the stunt team on that, dude, I was so scared. I was about to be in a helicopter jumping into the Hudson River in full scuba gear. And then I had to bring people and like swim them in. And I had like a week to prepare. You probably had to learn how to like breathe on a scuba gear. Yeah, I did that once shark diving for on a tank.

And it took me a few times to come up. and like get the breath down because once you get the breath down it's fine that's fine but there's still a lot of gear and i just was so scared to the point where i was going to back out i'm like they should just hire like a real person because then i have like two or three acting scene i have like two or three acting right so they cast me for the acting you would have thought they would use a stunt double but mr eastwood wanted to get in close on me and see that it was really me and i almost i tried to quit like three times i'm like it's so they didn't use that part in the movie or they did you would never know it was me and

that part. Now, I have a few other scenes where you could clearly see it's me and I have one like acting scene. Were you semi kind of pissed? Like, bro, I just, I thought I was going to die. I wasn't pissed at the time. I just was so thankful to the stunt crew and the stunt coordinators because they 100% got me through that whole thing and made it a good experience. But that's just talk about like having my bet. That's my edger and James. Like that's, those were my guys. They got me through it. Before we wrap, what was it like working with Clint Eastwood? And even if you have a small part, like, is that pretty cool to be in like the same room as him? And yeah, so the, the myth of Clint Eastwood, there's like two main ones. One is he doesn't like really call action or cut and he

does one take, right? That's the one of the biggest myths. One take, maybe two, and you're out. And then the second was like he works like eight hour days. Now he gets big budgets so you could afford to do that. And I will say both those myths are roughly true. I'm doing one scene with this guy. I remember, and like he, Clint at the time, he had his own monitor. So he's not at this big video village. He has his own monitor off to the side.

And he doesn't call action. He'll come up to us and he'll just say, start whenever you're ready. And he walks away. So now it's me and the other actor. And I have the first line. That's going to be a little bit harder, right? I don't know. I just want to hear action.

It's like our start. Like, oh. Boom, you're on. Right. It's like it's calling hike, right? The play begins when you call action.

That's kind of interesting. Got used to that. And then so he's like notoriously used the same crew for ever and ever. And, you know, you have the union rules. Like you have to take like an hour lunch break. I think the thing was like you could, he lets the crew decide every day.

We could work through lunch and leave an hour. hour earlier. And now you look, you could eat still. And I'm not saying you're not allowed to eat. You still eat while you're doing your job. Or, and you could stick around to eat food will be here. Or we could take the hour break, which is usually an hour and a half. By the way, I'd rather go through it. I think 100% of the time they say go through. But you know it was cool? So we went through. But you would think people then like run home after that because they have a lot of people stuck around to eat and hang out and talk. But it was, they were clocked out. So like the pressures off. You're going to eat and go home as opposed to eat and go back and do another

four hours. I love that, dude. And then about the, well, so that was the eight hour days. So the days were, were the days shorter. The days were eight, like, you literally show up at nine and you're out by five o'clock. That's like similar to, like, football, coaches is like, why are we, you know, why are we installing 900 plays? Like, let's be more efficient. Let's get home early. Hey, let's do what we're good at. And then let's move on. Like, like, don't overthink it, right? Or don't overcoach. or like don't over direct and over it like that. Like, hey, one take, two, take, boom, let's go on. You guys are all professionals.

That's awesome, dude. So I think the correlation with that is why maybe it doesn't happen as often. With movies, number one, that kind of schedule you need a large budget for. It's just because of time is money, right? Yeah. And I think for you with football, it's almost just like, well, hey. And he's Clint Eastwood. And I think, and maybe, I don't know, maybe if it's different for Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers,

maybe there's not a 900 play install. But also maybe with football, it's. like, well, look, hey, if we're only going to install a smaller amount, you just better be able to fucking run those things. Yeah, you bet like, no, because we have no options. You know, mental assignments, mental errors or Emmys, mental errors. Yeah. Hey, no mental errors will move on.

And then if everyone's on it, yeah, you move on. You get rewarded for being prepared and all that, yeah. That's the show. I'm going to see you in like three days. I can't wait one to see you. I can't wait to hear this freaking news you're about to break. It's crazy. don't see you're ready don't text me i'm gonna be thinking about it all weekend

see the kids oh it's gonna be fire man it's great to be back and maybe we can throw on a preseason game on we'll come over bring the boys over me throw on a little preseason action yeah there's a lot going on remember everyone out there uh like subscribe yeah back show um we're back 40 weeks in a row season two season two coming back dude we're fired up and we say next week we talk a little fantasy i think it's time we dive into yeah dude i'm i just i just started my email or my group chat to one of my groups about, hey, this is the date of the first draft. My boy, his draft sent it to the other group chat.

I have three more drafts. I'm a part of that. That one's already done. That one's in person here where I live. That's like, I don't know, like a Monday night or something. Dude, I got a draft one and hope for Wi-Fi on the plane. It's on my flight to L.A. Well, don't be. Well, that's all I want to talk about don't be an auto draft here, bro.

Well, no one will move it. They get kicked out. They get kicked out of leak. We'll figure it out. Don't fly on this. Don't fly on the time of the draft. It affects you, buddy. We want to take a later flight. that's less time you and I have to work

and hang out. What airline? United, I think. I mean, there's Wi-Fi. The question is, does it? It's 50-50. And get, by the way, this is going to wrap the show up.

Give me your login. I'll draft for you. You're definitely it, but do you want to know who my emergency GM is if I don't have Wi-Fi? It's auction. Your nephew, Anthony. Hot-take Barrara.

Auction, I can't do. So you're out of luck with you. Well, he's my emergency GM. So we'll recap that whole. I think next week. Thank you, everybody. Listen to, Maddie. I will see you in L.A., buddy.

Yes, sir.