Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - NFL Training Camp Memories, Great Comedy Sequels & the Entourage Pilot
Episode Date: July 24, 2025Get the pads back on, it’s that time of year again! On the latest episode of Throwbacks, Matt recalls his experiences at training camp and the grind that it entailed. From the heat to the roomma...tes, to the occasional fun parts, we’ll roll through it all. Plus, with Happy Gilmore 2 releasing this week, the guys identify some of their all-time favorite comedy sequels and sports movie sequels. Jerry also tells us which sports stories he’d like to see turned into a movie and which former title-winning college basketball coach he’d be perfect to play. And finally, in honor of the Entourage pilot episode anniversary, we look back at what the filming process was like for that first show and which actress came in at the last second and saved the episode. New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/) A big thank you to our sponsors: Wendy’s Find your new favorite Frosty Fusions™ flavor today with choices like OREO® Brownie, Caramel Crunch, and Pop-Tarts® Strawberry. https://m-wendys.app.link/frostyswirl25 KaChava Go to https://kachava.com and use code THROWBACKS for 15% off your next order Nissan The 2025 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek. Adventure ready and free from new tariffs. Learn more at https://www.nissanusa.com/ Zip Recruiter Try FOR FREE at http://Ziprecruiter.com/Throwbacks NHTSA Speeding Catches Up With You. Paid for by NHTSA https://www.nhtsa.gov/campaign/speeding-catches-up-with-you?utm_source=sinclair&utm_medium=read&utm_campaign=speed2025&utm_content=dogwalker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I was just picturing you in a crisis,
just how panicky you would be.
Oh, see, you got me all wrong, NoLiner.
Little things will drive me absolutely crazy.
If I went outside and my car got stolen,
I'd be like, wow, that's crazy.
I wouldn't care.
But if I went out and there was a weird little scratch,
I would freak out.
A little wound tight is how I would describe it.
It's not fun, dude.
It's not fun, dude. It's not fun.
We are back everybody.
Another episode of throwbacks.
Me, Matty Ice.
How you doing buddy?
I'm good buddy.
How are you man?
You recovered from last week? Well, first off, I'm answering incoming emails and texts still about the Josh Richman episode.
I just got an email from a high ranking studio executive that's like, I can't believe you
had Josh Richman on.
Wow, that brought back.
He was like, that's brought me back in time to maybe even a better day.
And yeah, we all enjoyed that.
I love that episode.
I love that episode.
I love that episode.
I love that episode.
I love that episode.
I love that episode. I love that episode. I love that episode. that brought back. He was like, that's brought me back in time to maybe even a better day.
And yeah, we all enjoyed that episode. I hope everyone who listened just like,
especially if they've kind of been on that journey that we were on at least experienced
like Hollywood in its best era. And not just because of Josh, just because that was pre
social media, pre phones and like you could really let loose and kind of do your thing, but he is like, I,
I, I don't know how to describe him because he's one of one, right?
He's just one of a kind, his stories, his path to that point, like what, like,
it's just, he was phenomenal, man. Uh, it was, I mean, we could have talked to
hours with him.
And look, he's a truth teller. He texted us. He's like,
just heard from Keanu
about the episode. I'm like, wait a minute. You telling me Keanu Reeves? You know, he sent that
to Keanu. He probably sent it to Robert Downey Jr. He probably sent it to Depp. I mean, and that's
the thing. Those are his three best friends in the world. He said Keanu loved the episode. Now I'm
like freaking, cause Keanu Reeves is my guy. That's like my dude.
I respect the hell out of that guy.
He's one of my favorite actors.
I took, I don't even know what we talked about this.
Keanu, I was with Josh one day.
Cole was probably four or five or six.
He was probably around that time.
We went to Keanu's house and went swimming
because we were up in the hills and I was like, you know,
I had Cole that time I think I was playing.
So I was home. I was like, Hey, what should we do? He I was I was playing so I was home I was like hey what should we do
he's like hey let's go to Keanu's house and go use the pool he wasn't even there
I just was at Keanu Reeves house using the pool just with me Cole and Josh. Now if
memory serves me in replacements I feel like he was a lefty quarterback too and
there's this by the way he's this other legend that Ravens invited him to camp
they liked him so much you always talk about actors being athletes in a movie and how bad they looked.
He looked pretty good in the replacement.
He looked like a quarterback who could slay that day.
Yeah, the long black hair, good looking dude.
Keanu's a G, man.
Like, what a legend.
Well, we just had a good little quick trip.
I actually got to see you in person.
We went to Indiana, Indianapolis to where the WNBA
All-star weekend was and we did this fun shoot for Nissan
We'll talk a little bit more about it later and we got some stuff coming to you content wise
But um, I got a few takeaways from a road trip to Indianapolis. I drove from Cleveland. It's four hours
Four is now officially my max. Yeah, can't do more than four. Stuff starts hurting.
I did the game where I just started calling people
till people picked up.
You were on a plane so I couldn't even call you.
You're like my one, like I know mom will pick up.
It's a great opportunity
to get your phone calls out the way, that's for sure.
Mom always picks up.
Connelly never picks up.
So many of my friends, Bree, 50-50 sometimes.
Actually, you know what?
Let me ask you a question.
Outside of your mom and your wife,
who did you call on the road trip?
Like, did you call an agent?
Do you call a friend?
I did connect with Connolly.
I said, Kevin, I need you to eat up some innings.
That's what I, I sent them a text after,
when I pulled over for gas, after he didn't answer.
I'm like, you gotta call me back
and eat up some innings on this road trip.
My boy, Mac, Cincinnati Cincinnati kid lives in New York.
Great chef has a great pizza spot in Brooklyn.
Most general.
And, uh, yeah, I went like two or three 45 minute calls in an audio and a pod and an
audio book and I was done.
So what was your, so, so Indianapolis, that was your first time there.
First time there.
And you know, you see it so much, especially with this Knicks,
Right, of course.
the Acres, ECF, the downtown Market Square.
So I didn't know what I was rolling up to.
I know the Midwest pretty well,
but I do gotta say downtown Indianapolis,
good sports city, good layout for sports.
Yeah.
Didn't even realize the speedway was right down there.
It was crazy.
We've been there for the Big Ten Championship game
pretty much every year.
And so we're always there in December.
It's cold, a little snowy, but it's such a cool downtown
because you walk everywhere.
It's just nice.
It's like just, it's a nice downtown.
It's not one of these downtowns
that's kind of turned to shit.
So you walk everywhere.
I felt like the WNBA All-Star weekend,
it was pretty big, dude.
Like I was, like, great town.
Obviously, Caitlyn Clark being there and the fever,
even though she didn't play, that obviously makes it bigger.
You could feel that.
But I was really surprised and kind of like taken back
of like how big it felt.
People walking around, the square there, the jerseys everywhere, really surprised and kind of like taken back of like how big it felt.
People walking around the square there, the jerseys everywhere, you know, the activations,
right?
They had the courts everywhere.
It was just really cool.
Our hotel, we walked into the Intercontinental Hotel downtown at the entire All-Star weekend
was staying there.
We hung out with both All-Star teams pretty much all weekend by chance.
And then I remember too, I remember Josh Hart saying in an interview,
he doesn't like one of his least favorite road stops is Indy. He didn't say why. He just said,
ah, I don't really like going to Indy. However, they have maybe one of my favorite restaurants
on the road, St. Elmo's, which is the old school steak joint. I was excited to go. We had a big
Sinclair team dinner there.
We roll in that.
And again, half the WNBA was there.
And I'm not gonna lie, I geeked out
over some of the players.
Oh, I was gonna say you weren't thrilled on St. Elmo.
St. Elmo's is fire.
I thought it was great.
I thought it was great.
Well, dude, we were sitting there.
We saw, I mean, gosh, we saw,
well, I saw Alisa Leslie.
I actually waved to Alisa Leslie because she's a Trojan.
I don't think, I've met her a bunch.
I don't think she knew it was me because she looked at me kind of in the dark.
She knows you.
I feel like, yeah, you guys know each other.
Yeah, no, I think she does.
But she looked at me like, who the fuck is this guy like waving at me?
Because I didn't go in because they were in that room.
We saw Sophie Cunningham.
Sophie Cunningham is where I'm basically saying I kind of froze up.
She walked by you and you froze up.
You're like, I like held the door and I...
You're like, damn, like she's pretty, she's cool.
Kelsey Plum, we saw everybody. It was freaking cool, man.
And you know what I realized too? I'm even short in the WNBA.
I was about to say, dude, I felt short next to all of these ladies who were like...
And you know, they're all wearing heels and shit, so they're all like...
Towering over. Alia Boston, Aaliyah Boston.
We were with Aaliyah,
that's where we shot some content with Aaliyah's great.
I mean, Aaliyah's six four, six five.
I felt bad for you because when I'm, you know,
like it reminded me like, honestly,
like when I'm in a huddle, like all my linemen are,
you know, six four to six seven.
So I just feel the average.
I was like, man, Jerry got to feel just real fucking short.
The best thing though, something you will never experience, you'll never experience
this. What it's like being in a crowded restaurant like that with a bunch of
other rather big, tall people. I can slip out of that place so fast.
Bro, you have no, you're the king of Houdini. You have no problem slipping out
of any place.
fast. You have no you're the king of Houdini. You have no problem slipping out of any place.
No, after you almost murdered Eric Wells with the horseradish that well, we're gonna post we're gonna post that video. So I I told you about this like so St. Elmo's is great kind of old school
steakhouse, great food, great vibe, energy, everything about it. They're known for like
their shrimp cocktail with their horseradish sauce.
We did that on the show last year, me and Mark Angeman.
I showed you the video.
It was fucking hysterical.
You almost killed Mark on the air.
It's so funny.
Well, I have to post these clips, but I did it and it just, you like smelling salts will
hit you and you just kind of like this thing, it hits you way up to your brain, dude.
And Wellesley. You didn't tell him. That's what I thought you did. That was dirty. You didn't tell him.
I did tell him. He knows.
You didn't. You downplayed the, yeah, that stuff was putting people on the floor.
Did you watch the All-Star game?
I did. I watched some of it because like, you know, I drove back and then I came right back
into fatherhood. So I watched as much as I could.
I don't really watch any of the All-Star stuff.
Like I wish I could.
That's something that I lost.
I watched the three point content.
It was like, it was, it was cool.
Like shout out to WNBA.
They had a great weekend.
It was star studded.
Seemed like it was, seemed like it was a lot going on.
There's a lot of partying going on.
We saw a lot of those clips.
They were getting after it.
You did the annoying thing. Like you texted me when you landed and got to the hotel and you're
like, where are you? I'm in the gym. I'm like, great. Thanks, but thanks, dude. Thanks for
shaming me. Cause you flew three hours to Indy. I drove in and you rushed right to the gym.
As soon as I didn't, I didn't rush to the gym. I just went to get a little sweat. I'm one of those
guys. If I'm on the road in the hotel, I just need to get a 30 minute sweat. You said is the, by the way, your, your comment, like talk
about high maintenance. Your comment was how's a gym? Is it nice? Well, one, is it nice? I said,
is it empty? Fair. And you go, is it empty? I'm like, who gives a shit if it's empty or not?
Meaning like if I wanted to come hit a treadmill or an elliptical, is there one open or am
I going to sit there like an asshole like, all right, I'm here while you work out like
spotting you.
I was solo by myself.
Do you get any PTSD from this time of year knowing that like camp is opening up and starting
to hear these guys?
You know, you know, you're happy that part of your life is over.
The camp part.
The first year that I was out of the league,
that I like, I was, you know, I knew I was done.
I didn't, if I can go back, I don't really think like,
I wasn't like, I was more just like, shit,
like I think it's done.
I didn't really think like, what's next?
I wasn't one of those panicking, right?
Like I just was like, it kind of just was done.
And I'm like, well, shit, I'm gonna sleep in.
Like, I'm just gonna relax.
I probably relaxed for a couple months,
and then I got the itch of just wanting to do something.
And I got it.
Like I said, that's when I got into TV right away.
But I did not miss camp.
All right, we're gonna do some,
we're gonna do our Nissan moment.
We'll do some best and worst stuff.
But are you even hearing anything yet?
I mean, I know they're just reporting yet.
Is there, cause this is the first year now, I'm officially ready for football. I enjoyed the break of basketball
I enjoyed having like the month of July to just hang with the kids and not really think about sports too too much and
Now watching the quarterback show and I'm starting to get pulled in a little bit and
I'm trying to figure out just where's the surprise team.
There's always a team or two that upgrades five or six wins even from the previous year
and they don't have the same repeat playoff team.
There's always three or four new playoff teams.
I don't really have the feel yet.
Do you have any feel for maybe that surprise team that might be lurking?
I don't have it yet.
No, I got to think the Bengals are gonna be better.
They can't allow themselves to start that bad.
I think the Bengals are gonna be better.
I think the Steelers, I think-
Division sucks though.
I mean, I'm sucking meaning it's hard.
Yeah, I'm not like one of those,
oh, they got Roger Steelers or not.
Like I just think they're gonna be better.
And I think the Chargers are gonna be pretty good, dude.
I think, I mean, again, tough division,
but on Tony, they were in the playoffs last year, right?
Yeah, everyone's very high on the Broncos.
That's the stuff I'm starting to hear.
There's a lot of Broncos.
Listen, man, we still got a little bit of time before camp.
I'd rather, let's talk some fantasy football.
Well, I don't want to say it cause this is, I mean,
Philly is one of my least favorite teams, but they're really,
I have a eerie, terrible feeling that Dallas is going to be
really good this year.
And it makes me sick cause I enjoy them being bad so much.
They should be good every year.
They got the-
Well, they didn't have a quarterback last year.
Dak was out for the whole, you know,
missed basically the whole year. So they didn't have a quarterback last year. Dak was out for the whole, you know, missed basically the whole year.
So they didn't have a quarterback last year.
Now Dak's back, new coach, you know, pickings.
How many, let me ask you,
let me ask you a more important question
in regards to fantasy football.
Okay.
How many mock drafts do you do from probably,
probably now, we're probably getting pretty close
till all your drafts happen.
I'll do one in the next like week or two,
just to feel it out.
Well, for that meaning like now, I'll do one,
just like totally take some flyers.
And then as once we get into like first week of August,
second week of August,
I'll definitely do three or four snake ones.
And I'll always do. And I snake ones and I'll always do.
And I'm trying, I want you to partner up with me
on this one team.
I always do an auction mock draft,
which to me is the most fun
because you can get whatever player you want
if you're just willing to pay your budget.
So, but yeah, who's the number one pick of fantasy this year?
You got the number one pick.
I don't know, but I'll probably do a hundred drafts
between now and.
But you don't know who the consensus number one, if you right
now are like, Hey, you're on the clock. I think Jamar, I think Jamar chase is kind of
consensus. I think Bijan Robinson is up there. Um, I mean, I could pull it up. I think it's,
I think it's like Jamar Bijan. I think Jefferson is still really high. I feel like C max is
high once again, like always say, like always, swing so many.
Yeah, Saquon, obviously, but I feel like C-Max is gonna swing so many things.
Because whoever has the guts to take him wherever he falls to,
and if they get the health luck of it,
is then basically gonna have the number one pick at like, 7-A-R-Y.
I've had him almost every year, and when he's playing, he's fucking great.
Did you ever care?
So wait, I'm trying to think because
I've been doing fantasy forever.
When you were playing, it wasn't as big of a thing.
When you were playing, it wasn't as big of a thing.
Players didn't even care about it.
Maurice Jones Drew was the first player
that I remember to
validate fantasy football.
He took the knee, famously, at the one.
And then apologized to his
fantasy owners for taking the knee. It the one and then apologized to his fantasy owners
for taking the knee.
It never really was a thing.
I think I remember hearing rumblings about it.
Like not that it was like foreign.
I just didn't watch like,
I didn't watch fantasy shows while I was playing football.
Like it just wasn't a thing.
And I don't even know if we were allowed
to play fantasy football
because you're essentially almost like-
Maybe not.
You're like betting on, you know what I mean?
So like I did remember some of the kickers,
I think it was in Oakland or it was in Houston
that they knew about fantasy football,
but it wasn't like, it just wasn't a thing.
And then a handful of years later,
like it's like knowing the spread, right?
But we're getting close bro, we're getting close.
Not only are we getting close,
and we spoke about my little road trip to Indy for Nissan.
That's what we did the spot with with Alia Boston. It's now time to do a little all-time
adventures driven by Nissan, the 2025 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek, which Matt Liner drove
all throughout Indianapolis. I drove that. I drove that car for about two and a half hours,
probably more with cameras, four hours cameras everywhere. I'll tell you what, the Rock Crate is great.
Well, it is adventure ready and free from new tariffs.
So I thought that it is, everyone's reporting to camp.
We teased it earlier.
What are some of your just,
what are some of the worst parts of training camp
for an NFL player?
Being in a city where it's 100 degrees
and 100% humidity like Houston, Texas.
Training camp is, there's a couple ways to look at it.
One, it's exciting because you're back, right?
You're back and like, you know,
the season's right around the corner
and you're back with the fellas and you got the locker room
and you're grinding and all that.
Like it is fun to be back after a break.
It's like even now, like for my job,
like I'm starting to get the itch to like,
I can't wait to get back on the road with you guys.
It's time.
You know, it's just time.
It just, you flip a switch and it's just time to lock in.
The schedule is a lot, dude.
It's like the first,
typically like three weeks of training camp,
the first 10, 11 days, maybe a few more are like,
those are your longest days, man.
Those are like, gosh, 7 a.m. to like 9 o'clock at night,
all day, double days.
And double days are not double days anymore.
You can't go back to back pad practice.
You can go pad practice,
then you go like a glorified walkthrough in the afternoon.
Then the next day is just a full practice,
but then meetings after.
So like, it's definitely not as bad as it used to be,
but it's just a grind, man.
It's tiring, it's a lot.
You're up early, you're weightlifting,
you're practicing for three hours,
you're going straight to meetings,
you get maybe an hour and a half off for lunch,
or you meet again, whatever you wanna do.
And then you go back and you tape
and you go get ready for the second practice.
Then after that, you got dinner,
and then you go into your night meetings and you go get ready for the second practice. Then after that you got dinner and then dinner,
then you go into your night meetings.
Night meetings are usually like,
could be like 730 to 930 or eight to 10.
Is that like during dinner or you eat dinner
and then go to your night meeting?
You're just, dude, you're just constantly,
you're just in meetings and practice and eating all day.
And are you in a dorm or a hotel?
Yeah, so the cool thing for Arizona,
I think they do it because we didn't have
an indoor facility.
So we used to go up to Flagstaff,
which is about three hours.
Burning, I did not saw that.
Which is about two hours, two and a half hours,
but it's elevations in the mountains, the snow,
it's beautiful. Oh, so it's cool.
Oh, man, we would be up there,
it'd be 65 in the middle of a forest.
It was beautiful.
Flagstaff, we'd be at NAU, Northern Arizona University.
So that was dorms.
So that was real dorm life.
Like I shared a room with Kurt Warner.
I remember we shared a room.
You and Kurt were in a room?
Yeah, we shared a dorm.
And like, are your beds closed?
Like are you just like, good night Kurt?
We had our own bedroom.
Bedroom, okay.
But you have like a common room?
It was like two rooms in a common area.
Okay.
And then you go out.
So yeah, you're-
That's so funny.
I'm just picturing you guys like, Kurt, I told you man, put your dishes in the sink, dude. Cause this is a common area. Okay. And then you go out. Um, so yeah, you're funny. I'm just picturing you guys like, Kurt, I told you, man, put,
put your dishes in the sink, dude.
Could you imagine like right now, like Aaron Rogers is 42 and he's, you know,
he's in a dorm, like, you know, he's in a dorm. Yeah. So like,
if he's at camp, does he go to camp? Yeah. But that, that part,
that part is awesome. But, um, that's just the grind man. And then Houston,
I remember getting to Houston and I was like, it was 30,
I think it was 30 consecutive days of a hundred degrees
and like 90% humidity, right?
And that was like a record at the time.
And I mean, dude, you're literally losing like six
to 10 pounds of practice of water weight.
So like, I remember we walk off
and you'd be guzzling Gatorades or, you know,
you would just be like, boom, boom, boom, put the weight walk off and you'd be guzzling gatorades or you
know, you would just be like, boom, boom, boom, put the weight back on and then you'd
lose it again. And they take care of us. You know, we practice early in the morning to
beat the heat the afternoon. Sometimes we practice outside just to get acclimated to
it a little bit, or we go in the indoor and then in Oakland, Oakland was dope though,
dude, cause Oakland, I don't know if they still, oh, they're in Vegas now. We used to do it up in Napa. So our, and Napa was hot as shit too, but we
were doing it at the hotel right there. They built a facility like that. The hotel, the
practice facility was right behind the hotel. It was kind of built into the hotel. We would
go to like wineries for like our rookie night. Like it was, it was,
Well, that's something to ask you. What fun is there to be had at camp at whatever little off time you get, which is not much. What is it? Just,
you would get the same thing you'd hear. You'd go, maybe we did like a comedy
night, I think in one of them, maybe there's bolt. We did bowling one night,
I think in huge building kind of stuff. Yeah. You maybe go to a movie at USC.
We went to the AVP, the volleyball tournament.
Pete would take us down to Manhattan Beach for the AVP.
So there's, or you always hear a little inkling,
like it's Monday and like we would start hearing like,
hey, Wednesday there's no practice,
but it was on the schedules.
You start to hear that,
you know like little kids, like no school, right?
So we'd get fired up.
We'd have off day, like, hey, you're off until,
if it's Wednesday morning,
hey, you're off until Friday morning.
Go home, do whatever you want.
Like we'd have some of the, after like about 10 days.
Would you go like right home, like leave the camp?
In Arizona I would drive home,
cause you're two hours.
Houston, it was right there at the facility.
Yeah, so you just, you just, you just get away, right?
So it's, it's a grind dude.
The first couple of weeks are grind.
And then after that, you start to get into pre-season.
And then that's when like an actual game week is so you start to you start to simulate that you simulate a game week you know the times the meeting but you go home after practice right so it's a grind man it definitely is a mental grind I'd say it's probably the hardest part about the season just getting through camp because then once the games are it's it's fun you know I feel like I would for sure be the teammate that organizes the video game tournament for the team.
In off time, whenever we had a little off time, I would be that guy.
In Arizona, we were up in Flagstaff. There's nothing in Flagstaff.
Again, it's really pretty, but there's nothing.
All they had was like a Walmart up there, dude.
So we would go up to Walmart and like that would be like our version of like, hey, let's go to Walmart today. And like if you had like a couple up there, dude. So we would go up to Walmart and like, that would be like our version of like,
hey, let's go to Walmart today.
And like, if you had like a couple hours
in between practices,
you need to go get an, like, honestly,
we go get an Xbox, you go get a fan,
or you get a pillow, whatever, you know,
something you forgot.
Like Walmart was our place to go in Flagstaff.
Now, did you ever witness any of those crazy camp fights?
Anything ever happen in your run?
Yeah, there's always camp fights, man.
Always.
Just because you're tired of playing the same dude.
I mean, no matter what level, high school, college, pro,
it's like, when you go against the same defense,
the same guys up front, the same,
and there's also a lot of guys that just jaw, right?
They just talk shit regardless.
After two weeks, it just gets old and just be like,
dude, shut the F up, man. Like, you know, shut and then guys up front linemen, they're always just getting
after it a little bit. And then yeah, that that's just real though.
And every coach, like that coach, as I was gonna say, every coach probably likes that.
And every coach, I got to imagine, I was gonna try to ask you, are there any coaches that
may have been harder at camp than others? I feel like every coach during camp is dead
serious and working you guys. There I feel like every coach during camp is dead serious
and working you guys.
There's no easy coaching during camp.
There's no easy way out.
I think it's sometimes like,
like an example of that would be like,
giving us a night off or like, hey, no meetings tonight.
Right, that's the best you could do probably.
Especially when you're, you're just, dude,
when you get to camp, the first 10, 11 days
are just a grind.
It is what it is.
You're just in it. You're just going. You're going and you're trying, dude, when you get to camp, the first 10, 11 days are just a grind. Like it is what it is. Like you're just in it.
Like you're just going, you're going.
And you're trying to play cards.
You're trying to like, you know, you watch,
you get away from it
because you're consuming it literally every day.
But it is like, it's install every day.
And for rookies, it's trying to catch up to all the vets.
And-
That's why I want, a rookie's more-
And guys are trying to make the roster, you know?
So like it's serious.
I feel like there's probably a lot of over eager rookies more- And guys are trying to make the roster, you know? So like it's serious. I feel like there's probably a lot of over eager
rookies first camps and just ready to treat it
like it's game day from the moment they walk in.
Or maybe there's some deer in the headlights too, right?
I would say it's more deer in the headlights for sure.
Now at that point you go through, you know,
like when you're drafted,
you go through rookie mini camp,
which is like in May and that's just rookies, right?
So like you'll have all your drafted rookies
and then your free agents.
So it could be anywhere from like, you know,
10 to 20 players and then the mandatory mini camp,
which is everybody.
So you do get a chance.
Like I remember in Arizona, how about this?
I'd tell this story.
So I remember, so rookie mini camp, I'm fine.
Then it's team mini camp and I'm there with everybody,
Kurt, everybody, and you're there and you get three
or four days of real practice, like seven on seven team,
all that, and then you're pretty much off.
I held out for my contract in my year,
like 10, 12 days into mini camp.
So I barely, I didn't even go to rookie mini camp.
And my first, like, or training camp,
I was like a week late because I was holding on,
I was like, you know, quarterback.
And at my age at the time was Tom Conant
and he got me a great deal of stuff.
I don't feel like a lot of players were holding out
back then, right?
There were QBs holding out.
And I came back probably four days
before we played the New England.
How does that feel?
Walking in and holding out, put your sign, like did you feel anything?
No, I think, you know, I was always really well liked and like, I think my teammates,
I mean, I would say like, I think it's business.
Yeah, but they also, yeah, it is a bit, they get it.
Everyone gets it.
And like they got to meet me in the summer.
They got, I was there.
Like I was always very
likable. All my teammates, I would say love, I hang out, hung out with everybody. Like I was always
just a great teammate. So like going in, they kind of already knew, they knew I wasn't like this,
some hot shot, whatever. They just were like, oh yeah, dude, get yours. Like, you know, you'll be
fine, whatever. Um, but I remember coming in and I was like four days before playing New England.
And then they were loaded, you know?
Like I remember like rest in peace,
but it was Junior Seah, Willie Mack, Vrabel, gosh, Abruski.
And I can't-
The Pats, those are the Pats.
And I balled, dude.
I balled in the first game, man.
I balled in the first game.
I ran for like 60 yards.
I was like, I was running all over the place.
I threw a touchdown.
It was my first ever game.
And then that was the same preseason.
Denny Green story.
That was your technical first NFL game
was just going off against the Pats.
My first NFL game was that.
My second, I think maybe Denver.
My third was at Chicago,
which started the whole Denny Green.
That's why we found him in Chicago.
I started that game.
And then the fourth-
You knew you were better and you let him off the hook.
Yeah. That's good memories, man.
Yeah, but training camp's a grind, bro.
We don't have anything like that really with acting.
But your days are grinds too, dude.
Your days are grinds too.
Different grinds.
It's a different grind.
Obviously there's like rehearsal time.
It's different with the show
because when you start a show,
you know you're about to go in for like seven, eight months, right?
So it's not so much like camp.
There's like little rehearsals, table readings.
You'll go do wardrobe for 12 hours
or they'll fit you for a hundred different outfits.
We don't really have anything that simulates
what you guys go through unless you're doing a movie.
Cause then when you go off and you do like an indie film,
some smaller budget film in the Midwest or some small town
where you're staying in like a dorm
and all you have is each other.
You only have each other as entertainment
and social life outside of work.
You would, I mean, you were, and maybe it's different
because you were a lead on a major show.
I have a friend who was a lead on a major show and she,
like she was in almost every scene like in a show right? Like literally like so it was like 14 hour
days every day with like maybe it's not seven days a week I don't know but like it's almost every day.
It's at least five days a week. Yeah and now this is how you know that's the best part of when a show
starts to become successful because early entourage days, right? It's all about days. So when we're just starting
and no one cares or knows who we are, we don't have a lot of money. So we're doing five day
episodes for 30 page scripts, right? Those are all 15, 16 hour days. And in the early days,
the four guys, me, Dylan, Connelly, Adrian, even if it was
a scene about Adrian and Connelly, me and Dylan are still in the background just being
dicks. So we were there for everything. But then as you get to like season three, four,
you get more money and more money by the end, by season eight, eight hour days, nine to
five show up at nine. Cause we have like, you have like 11 days to shoot 30 pages as
opposed to five.
So that's really how it goes with television.
The more success you get, the more money.
It's just more time.
That's all the money in Hollywood is, is time on the set.
How, I was, I'm always, I've never asked you this.
How do you memorize your lines?
What is your process of lines?
Because I can't imagine you weren't ad-libbing a ton, right?
No, we didn't ad-lib.
Well, with Entourage, we didn't ad-lib at all.
I'm very lucky because I have a photographic memory.
You can just remember, yeah.
When I say photographic, I mean, I can close my eyes and I can still think of a page in
the script from the pilot where I could tell you where in the sentence the last word was before
it began the new sentence. I have a photographic memory. With power it was a little different
because that photographic memory is helpful but when you're saying stuff like prosecutorial
malfeasance it's like I don't even know what that means I need help. So it was a slower
learning process because you don't know what the hell you're saying. But I've seen some people tape lines, meaning like they'll tape all your lines and leave
a space for theirs.
So they'll be driving and they'll hit play and they'll hear your line.
So that's how everyone does it differently.
I've fortunately never had line issues.
Some people do.
A lot of people have.
Oh, I can imagine.
And that takes up a lot of time when someone,
look, I always say the worst thing,
I think we talked about in a different episode,
the worst thing someone can do as an actor on any set
is show up and not know your lines.
So, yeah.
And the last thing that the only similarity, obviously there's nothing physical,
but I even joke around with you when we do this show where it's like,
I calibrated the coffee at just the right time.
The thing that any rookie actor would probably need to learn right away is on a film
or TV set is brokering your energy.
Like you cannot come out unless the scene calls for
it. You just got to, you got to calibrate and broker out your energy perfectly. Cause
it's a long day and your big closeup on your big scene might be an hour 14. You don't know.
So just pound that makeup on baby. Just stay ready so you don't have to get ready.
Are you ready for, obviously it's golf related, my favorite sports moment of the week.
Are you ready for this?
So you obviously watched the British Open.
You're going, can you tell everybody where you're going this weekend?
Well, I'm going to Scotland this weekend with my boys at Travis Matthew.
Shout out to Travis Matthew.
I'm playing, yeah, I mean, St. Andrews.
I'm playing the old course.
I'm playing, let me pull this up, Castle Course.
Is that the name of it? Castle Course.
Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, so I'm playing the Castle Course day one
and the old course day two.
So mission accomplished. I got
liner to really did play golf. He's flying to Scotland. I mean, I, there's no more of a
Tahoe couple of weeks ago. I'm going to Scotland to play with some of the boys.
I'll, I'm going to reunite my boy, Reggie. Reggie will be there.
Well, I want lots of pictures and videos sent to me personally from that trip.
So my favorite sports moment of the week, it was golf.
It was Scottie Scheffler.
Now we all know he won the British Open.
But did you see his interview before the open?
Yeah, it was press conference.
He basically had an existential crisis, but not one like they needed help for.
I think he's been dealing with this probably his whole career. And he questioned what the point of all this is. He's like, you win.
It's great for two minutes and I'm back here next week and I'm trying to figure out a way
to win. And why do I want to win this tournament so bad? Cause it doesn't really matter.
It sounded like he was having a little bit of a midlife crisis. He's young.
Yeah. I loved it.
And then he goes out and he blisters everybody like Tiger freaking Woods and wins by a hundred
strokes.
Then he takes the Claret jug from the British Open, flies with it to New York and goes to
the Happy Gilmore 2.
Is that not maybe the best five day stretch of any athlete ever?
But let me ask you a question because Scheffler's
the best in the game. Yes, by far by far. You know, like he just especially the last couple years.
If it's any other person that says that in that sport, are they I don't even actually they're in
trouble. They're probably they're probably don't love the game. That's why they're not winning.
Everyone actually came out and like kind of applauded him for just being honest. Like, dude, he's, he's grinding. Like he's, he's a family guy.
He grinds like obviously he loves golf, but like you can tell that it's like, dude, that like they
play every week and it's a, it's a probably a mental approach. But if that's anybody else,
I think we're questioning their desire to like, dude, if that's Rory McIlroy, like,
Oh, he's getting crushed. Oh, he's getting absolutely fucking. This is why Rory doesn't win. Like dude, if that's Rory McIlroy, like. Oh, he's getting crushed. Oh, he's getting absolutely fucking crushed.
This is why Rory doesn't win, doesn't have 15 majors yet.
I love it man.
I don't care.
I love Anytime.
And it's a different world now, but like when I was playing, it felt, me personally, kind
of felt like you were always muzzled, right?
Like you just couldn't really say what you wanted because you were afraid. Like we talk about cancel culture and all that. Not even that. You're just like,
you know, you're just afraid to say something because you can't have feelings. Whatever.
You gotta be like, yeah, you know, like whatever. Now, like soft, if you were like, Roger says
whatever he wants, but he's also a hall of fame. Right. So there's guys that can kind of just get
away with it. I love, and we've talked about it now, like all these players have podcasts and like,
they just got, they kind of say what's on their mind
for better or for worse.
I enjoy it.
I like it.
I like the vulnerability.
I like the honest, like, like we don't like,
yeah, he makes a shit ton of money.
He's a great golfer.
He flies on a private jet everywhere.
But like the dude is still a real,
like a human being with a family.
That's away from his family all the time.
I enjoy it.
I'm absolutely fascinated by Scottie Scheffler
because he does not ever really show...
He doesn't ever...
I mean, someone tweeted like this guy...
Someone put up his mug shot and was like, this guy's been in and out of jail for a year.
He's just won the British show.
Just, yeah, in and out of jail.
I think he's one of the more fascinating athletes because, you know, he gets a little bit of
shit because it's like, Oh, it doesn't really show emotion on the course every now and then
you get a little fire from him, but like it's ho hum.
It's going to make these birdies.
He's got a little, I was, I was listening to Jordan Spieth.
He's got a little tiger in him when it was like tiger, like tiger just kept to himself,
right?
Like he just kind of did his thing.
He like, now those friends just kind of did his thing. Now, those are friends.
They seem very different personality.
Tiger was just polarizing and everyone was like,
yeah, he has no friends on tour.
I think Spieth, unless it was a fucking AI video,
but Spieth came out and said, yeah, he just rather,
he doesn't really do all the corporate stuff.
He doesn't do all that.
He just shows up, plays golf and leaves.
He's just a goat, dude.
I'm just fascinated by existential Christ.
Cause also I feel like golf and other individual sports might be the only
sport where you could really say, why does this real like, yes, of course I'm
competitive. I've been doing this my whole life.
I want to win a time, make a living, but does it really matter?
I feel like in football, cause you could get killed.
I feel like you just start to slow up. Yeah, well, it's also an individual sport. It's just so different. Like he doesn't rely on anybody else but himself.
So like it's just like it's like you're alone on an island and you just you control like you're caddy, but like that's about it.
I was just picturing you in a crisis and just how panicky you would be.
Oh, see you got me all wrong, NoLiner.
Here's the thing with me.
Little things, little things that would maybe,
you would gloss over and be like,
ah, who really cares, will drive me absolutely crazy.
Yeah, you're like, what?
But if I went outside and my car got stolen,
I'd be like, oh shit, my car got stolen.
Wow, that's crazy.
Isn't that funny how that works?
But if I went out and there was a weird little scratch, but I'm like, oh shit, my car got stolen. Wow, that's crazy. I wouldn't care. Isn't that funny how that works?
But if I went out and there was like a weird little scratch,
but I'm like, who the, how the fuck, why did that happen?
I would freak out.
But if I went out and my car was gone,
never to be seen again, I'd be like, wow, that's a fire.
You're one of those that's like, my wife had the-
Big shit, I'm calm.
I'm calm with the big shits, the little shit.
I wonder, I always wonder just what it's like
to live like that, to be so, to be...
Where the little things bother you.
A little wound tight, a little wound tight
is how I would describe you.
It's not fun, dude, it's not fun.
Yeah, dude, it's not, bro.
It's not a fun place.
Yeah, dude, you gotta, I don't know, man.
Play some video games or something.
But you do want me in a crisis situation,
you want me, meaning I'm a good person to be helpful.
I'm calm, I keep it together.
But anyway, he went from what's the point of all this
to winning the British Open,
and he brought the Claret jug to the happy gilford.
Yeah, this absolute flex.
To red carpet, it's just like, but what a ride.
What's the point to like, I'm partying,
here I am with Adam Sandler.
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It got me thinking sequels.
Now there's a few ways we could go about this.
I don't know what you what research you've done, but just comedy sequels. Now there's a few ways we could go about this. I don't know what research you've done,
but just comedy sequels in general,
which are a little different.
We're not talking Godfather 2, Terminator 2.
Those are iconic sequels.
Comedies are always a little tougher.
Let's go through some of our favorite comedy sequels
of all time.
This one was kind of hard.
It is tough because it's not a thick list.
It really is not. It's not a thick list
and it's also, it's an older list I found.
There's a lot of like, there isn't a great comedy.
Like, I mean, like Happy Gilmore too.
I'm sure I can't wait to see it.
That's comedy, but it's a sports, like, you know,
but like obviously- And then we could do like,
you know what's even harder is the sports movie sequels.
Cause there's really like five to choose from, but let's go. What do you have?
Give me like your three.
So yeah, I would say I don't really have an order, but I would say,
I would say Ace Ventura when nature calls and honestly,
honestly, cause growing, I mean, Jim Carrey is my favorite actor forever.
And Ace Ventura was like my favorite movie of all time. Yeah. Yeah. And then like the Dumb and Dumber
and all that kind of stuff. But Ace Ventura was just fantastic. So that one, when I was reading
these lists, I'm like, oh yeah, that one was pretty good. I don't, it wasn't as good as the
first one was good. I went Austin Powers, dude.
The second or third, the Heather Graham or the Beyonce?
Cause there's two and three.
Heather Graham.
Yeah, that's a good one.
And then this one, so this one's a little more recent
and I fucking love this movie.
22 Jump Street.
Yeah, yeah.
So good, dude.
I had some other ones on there,
but that one with Channing Tatum, Jonah Hill,
like it was, that one made me laugh.
So I watched, I watched the first one,
not that long after we did the Josh Rich man,
so cause he started talking about his part
in 21 Jump Street the show.
So it got me like, you know what, let me watch that.
And I'm set up to watch the sequel.
Really, really funny.
It's so funny.
Solid list. Okay. For me, I go, I was a big to watch the sequel. Really, really funny. It's so funny. Solid list.
Okay, for me, I go, I was a big fan of this franchise.
I guess you can call it a franchise.
I go American Pie too.
They go to the Lake House, just solid.
You hang with those guys.
I think Christmas Vacation counts as a sequel.
It's the second.
It's like its own movie.
It's debatable.
I think it's debatable, but it's obviously classic.
And I'm not gonna lie, I was a big Rush Hour guy.
Rush Hour 2.
I was into Rush Hour, man.
Those movies made me laugh.
And then this could be a, you could debate this one.
Would you consider Bad Boys 2,
would you consider the, not a comedy?
It's kind of like action comedy.
If we consider that, then I would do like the hangover too. I mean, hangover,
I think I thought the hangover to hangover series were great.
I was just trying to mix it up. I just didn't think the hangover too was
near. It wasn't as good as the original hangover is a top five movie in my
opinion. So there's not, it's not a big list, man. It's not no,
and you know what's even smaller sports sequels. I've even thought of any,
well, I mean, it's pretty, you could pick any of the rock, right.
Pick any of the rocky ones.
So if I had to pick one, I'd pick two.
I go two and then four.
I enjoy, I did not enjoy Karate Kid 2 in Okinawa,
but I did enjoy Karate Kid 3.
I did like Karate, when you brought it back to the valley.
Yeah. I enjoyed Karate. 3. I did like when you brought it back to the Valley. Yeah.
I enjoyed Karate.
Mighty Ducks 2?
Mighty Ducks 2 is fabulous.
Gordon Bombay goes from coaching the Ducks
to now he's coaching the junior Olympic team.
Yeah.
And he gets to bring some of his players.
That's a pretty big blow up.
Who do they play against?
Who was their rival?
Was it Iceland?
Iceland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause they were, I think there was a story there, but I didn't want to do Russian.
What was the name of the coach of Iceland?
It's escaping me.
What's the coach's name?
Wolf Stanson.
Wolf Stanson.
Dude, D2 was great.
Also Creed.
Creed was great.
Creed is 100% a sequel and it's awesome.
By the way, the Creed movies were are awesome.
Like, like those are like talk about going from Rocky to what?
Three Creeds now. All of them are great.
Yeah. And he did Creed 2 is where he fights Drago's son.
And this is from my film buffs.
I don't know if you've ever seen the color of money.
And I don't know if you consider bill seen The Color of Money, and I don't know if you consider
Billiards of Sport, but it is technically,
it's a sequel from The Hustler.
So for all you youngins who wanna go see a good movie,
Tom Cruise, Paul Newman, Scorsese, just great fun movie.
So I got one more little thing for you.
What do you got?
What are some sports movies based off of real events that,
sports stories that haven't been made into movies yet? Sports stories that haven't been made into
movies? I could pitch you a few if you don't have any off the top of your head. I could pitch you a
few. Pitch me a couple. Well, all these have been covered in a lot of docs, but if we were to script
it out, 83 NC State, the cardiac pack, that win, shocking win. That could be a good, I
could play Jimmy V maybe.
I was going to say Jimmy V. Yeah, you could.
I'm at the age where I could play Volvano.
Yeah, you could play Volvano.
Also another movie I could be in, Malice in the Palace. I could definitely be in that.
I don't think that's a good movie though, because what's the ending? Everyone just gets
their ass kicked.
Okay, what about 1994?
You need an ending buddy. Everyone just gets their ass kicked. Okay, what about 1994?
I have the one that's like undeniably the goat.
1994 MLB strike, which arguably or inarguably killed the Montreal Expos.
They did not survive.
They were in first place.
Yankees were in first place.
They end the season.
They did a fake World Series exhibition and then the Expos were gone.
One of the best hats in baseball.
I was a part of a strike and if I'll strike,
is it fun to be, I mean, I've been a lot of part of a lot of union strikes.
I coached a flag football team that is that when you started being the OC and you
were getting crazy obsessive, I didn't even coach my kid.
I just coached the team in our leagues down in orange County.
Um, I gotta be honest with you.
I'm not seeing either of those movies.
Okay.
2007 Appalachian state over Michigan in the big house, tiny FCS school.
That's one of those good feel story, feel good football movies for sure.
All right.
Now these are the big football movies are good because you an upset like you can make
a good story about it.
These are the big three that I think you will enjoy. The 2021, the heist of the
sale of a rare Mickey Mantle card. Mickey Mantle's card sold for 12.6 million.
Can I sell you on a heist movie about that card? You're in.
All day. All day.
Second place, Jeff Perlman has these next two. He wrote them as books, 90s cowboys or talking Irvin Leon,
let we're going to Troy.
Rated X. That's well X. Then the ultimate story.
This is the ultimate sports story. I don't know how this is not a doc.
A show they've made documentaries. It's the 86 Mets and the book, if you guys ever want a good book out there,
if you have not read, When the Bad Guys Won, 86 Mets,
these dudes on the flight home from Houston,
after winning the NLCS, they wrecked the plane.
Oh yeah, someone put in our chat, the 06 Rose Ball, sure.
Why not, sure.
Yeah, why not?
Let's just do it
So I've been getting asked to do people want to do another a doc on our era because we did the we did a 30 for 30
Right. I don't feel like it covered it. How did you feel about like do you feel like it covered it enough?
Though definitely not enough, but I thought it was more
Yeah, there's way more because a lot of that was sort of geared towards Reggie at the end. This one kind of like, you know, like obviously
like Swamp Kings with Florida and Urban,
I thought was fascinating, was pretty cool.
Yeah, I've been kind of approached about potentially
like making a doc out of that time
and the era of USC football and the dynasty,
which I think people would love to watch.
I mean, people love sports docs.
Yeah, so I guess you would probably,
in thinking about that, if I was producing that,
obviously you and Reggie are the first two, right?
We go after you guys,
because then if we get you to say yes
and Reggie says, we can start going.
Reggie would be a tough sell, but.
Well, maybe that's it.
Maybe you say yes, then they go to Reggie. Like, well, Matt,
he's in and they go to me. Pete probably got the call too.
He would do it. Pete did the 30 for 30. Lindell White would be fascinating.
Can we get Lindell White on the show? You probably get like a guy like Clay Matthews,
even though he was like on the, he was a young at the end of that. But I mean, a lot of those
guys that were on our squad became, I mean,
Clay's Hall of Famer, you know,
like a lot of those younger players at that time.
There's enough star power.
Who wasn't covered in a 30 for 30 that you would say,
you know who needs their own five minute segment
in the movie, your former teammate?
Which player do you not think that maybe,
if in another doc would get a lot more shine?
I mean, Alex Holmes was the king.
He connected us to Hollywood.
He was our tight end.
He's a great player.
Was he from Hollywood?
Was he an LA kid?
Is that how it happened?
Or was he just about it?
He just, I mean, Josh talked,
we talked about him on the episode last week.
Like Josh, he just went out
and he was always
one of those guys who understood how to network
and meet people and build relationships at a young age.
Really smart dude and a hell of an athlete.
He was really good.
And he just, he just, it was a connector.
He connected and he stayed in touch
and he just knew how to do that.
He could talk to anybody, had the personality,
all those things, and he became the guy.
He became, you know, hey, we need,
this kid's coming in this weekend,
we need to, like, we want him, done.
Like Alex was the guy.
Call Alex.
He was the guy.
He hosted everybody, he was sort of,
if he didn't host you, he hosted you, you know,
like he was like the umbrella.
Every recruit that came in, you know who'd be good, who didn like the umbrella. Every, every, every recruit that came in,
you know, who'd be good, who didn't get his shine was Mike Williams. Cause Mike Williams,
Mike Williams, he's at USC now. Um, he's in player development, but, uh, he left early,
you know, his whole story and not necessarily his story because he left and did the whole
supplemental draft and tried to do what Maurice Claret did and didn't work out. And like, but we won the national championship without him
and he should have been on the team,
which is fucking crazy.
Cause he was like the, he was like a shack to the NBA.
He was the most dominant player I had seen in that era.
Cause he's enormous, right?
He's six five.
He's just, he was an absolute animal.
Six five.
And he was just two 40 could run.
Like he was a beast.
He would be one that would be like, oh shit. I remember how And he was just 240, could run like he was a beast. He would be one that would be like,
oh shit, I remember how good he was.
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And we shot the whole season.
And then finally, when the show's getting ready to air
a few weeks before, we had to do the opening title sequence,
right? Which is at that time too, especially for HBO was a big thing.
And if you remember, it's like all our names in lights at various special places.
I like my name, believe it or not, my name, Jerry Farrar, in the credits is in the Viper room.
That's where my name is. So everyone has a different one.
But we had a, we did this driving sequence in Lincoln with the
suicide doors and all that. And I was just, and we started, cause we had to do it at night.
So we started at like nine 30 at night and we did that. We drove that Lincoln all around
Hollywood and LA till six o'clock in the morning, till the sun came up, cameras everywhere.
And it really got me thinking back to 21 years, you know, it's, it definitely
are we going to get an anniversary just every year for Entourage? I feel like we just get it
22 years, 23 years, 24 years, 20 and 21 hit a certain way. Um, I always post about it,
but for some reason this year, even more than last year is like 20th anniversary. This year,
it just like caught fire on all my pages
I don't know why it was I think it's probably cuz we're we're talking about it a lot more. I
Mean we're on the show guys Maddie. I could remember
Sitting in my North Hollywood apartment on that night, July 18
2004 when it was airing now
I wasn't watching it because I wanted to
watch it because I was excited to watch it. I was watching it because I wanted to see,
are they going to cancel this thing halfway through? Like, are they going to pull it off the air?
And I just remember sitting there bringing the whole show full circle, my Scottie Scheffler
moment. I remember ending and saying, this is the best it's gonna get. Like this is it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
You had no feel that it was gonna be,
I mean obviously I don't think you ever know,
but like you can read a script,
you can hear the story and be like,
oh, and then you put yourself back in that time of LA,
like, oh, this could be a fun show, nothing.
You're just like, shit, I hope we get through a season.
Well, some of my paranoia that you teased me about earlier,
yeah, my wound up tight.
But also it's like, you know,
this isn't supposed to happen to me, number one,
I'm some meathead from Brooklyn.
I'm not supposed to make it on TV
unless I'm probably, you know, for other reasons.
And then number two, it's like,
none of these shows really make it.
At that time too, so many shows come and go
and are out the door.
And then I remember hearing that HBO music, like that sound of the static and watching it.
And then I was like, yeah, this is the best it's ever going to get.
I need to enjoy it.
And it did bring back some other memories though, too, where in the pilot, by the way,
none of us knew what the hell we were doing in the pilot.
Kevin Dillon called me E a couple of times.
I'm like, no, bro, I'm turtle.
Like we, in the pilot, we just met two weeks before the first episode.
So you know, we had to do this pool scene and it was an indoor outdoor pool in this
amazing house that's still there right off of Franklin Boulevard.
And I have to, I have like this kissing scene with this girl after I say this awful line to her.
I still couldn't believe I said this line.
What'd you say?
I had to say, uh, make out with me and I'll show you
where Vince eats breakfast in the morning, which Doug Allen,
if you're listening, I love you, buddy.
That's a hard line for any actor to pull up.
So, and then me and the girl kiss.
Now we're in this pool.
It's two o'clock in the morning.
The pool's not heated. Somehow someone forgot to flip the heat on this $40 million mansion.
Pool's freezing cold. It's November in LA. And I won't name the food establishment that I got food
poisoning from the day of. I was so sick. And this poor girl, Courtney, I'm miss, I'm not
remembering her last name. I was like apologizing, telling her, I swear I'm not contagious.
You had a make out with her?
I was saying it's food poisoning and I had like a fever.
I thought I was dying.
And she's like, she's kind of an extra, right?
Nah, she had a solid, solid co-starring part.
And we get through, in between takes, they're pulling me out of the pool, wrapping me with
towels, putting me under a heater. I was shivering. This is where I knew Connelly was
going to be my boy and was like already a leader, even though he was at a young age
too. We find like we got the scene and they're like, let's do one more. Connelly was like,
he's done. Pull him. Connelly came running. I was like, take him out of the place. Done.
He's done. And they wrapped me and sent me, I had to be driven home. And I think I was like, take him out of the place, done, he's done. And they wrapped me and sent me, I had to be driven home.
And I think I was in bed the whole weekend, I was out.
I don't know why that sticks out.
That's in the pilot?
That's in the pilot.
So I don't know if we can show it or still.
I gotta watch the pilot.
And then the other thing that sticks out from the pilot
is we have this line where we basically tell
Connelly's character we saw his girlfriend
in a club messing around with Vince Vaughn.
And he's like, Vince Vaughn, that puffy MFer?
The lines are like, no, no, this isn't puffy Vince Vaughn,
this is like old school Vince Vaughn.
I see Vince Vaughn a few weeks after that episode aired.
Now he either never saw it
and just didn't care to talk to me,
or we went to one of those Madden EA parties.
Do you remember? You've probably been invited to those. And they pair us up to play against each
other. And dude was not friendly. Really? And I think it's because some, I don't know if he
watched or someone told him like, yo, they were, they were making fun of you on that show. And he
beat me in overtime. Did he? He beat me in overtime at that time where I thought I was a really good Madden player.
He beat me in overtime.
So, oh, and the last thing that stands out, we all know Allie Lauder famously from the
varsity blues, whipped cream bikini, right?
But she's wonderful.
Fantastic on what's it called?
Land, land, what's it called?
Is it land man?
Land man. Yeah. Fantastic.
So this other thing stands out too.
We could not get cameos, obviously, in the pilot
or in the whole first season
because no one knew what it was
and everyone thought we were making fun of them.
Wahlberg did a cameo in the pilot.
Obviously he's the producer of the show.
We have this scene in a club
where this Hollywood actress that was in the script comes
over and is like where she's like supposed to be kind of crazy like where's Vince basically like
her and Vince had a thing and he's kind of ditching her and we point her in another direction. I mean
we were on set in the club no Hollywood actress at one point I was like oh Jennifer Love Hewitt's
gonna come by it's amazing another point it was like, oh Jennifer Love Hewitt's gonna come by.
I was like, amazing.
Another point it was Scarlett Johans,
this person, and then no one was showing up.
And to the rescue, someone must have begged and pleaded
and knew Ali Lai.
I don't know if it was Wahlberg,
someone begged her to come do it.
I know she didn't get paid much.
And Ali Larder showed up at the 25th hour and did that cameo.
So I've always rooted and cheered her on.
Shout out to Ali Larder.
She saved us.
She saved us.
If that doesn't happen, the show might not go on.
Might not go on, buddy.
That's it.
So what else for you?
So you're getting ready.
We're signing off.
You're getting ready for Scotland
and just enjoying some family time before that.
Yeah, dude, appreciate you getting me back into golf, man.
Just traveling to Scotland this week.
You guys went to a concert, too.
I thought for sure I saw you and Josie.
You were at a concert, right?
We went to we saw the just the legend George Strait last weekend.
I thought for sure I was going to see something on social from YouTube
making fun of the NASA guy who got caught at Coldplay.
You know, I'm a I kind of feel bad for. from YouTube making fun of the NASA guy who got caught at Coldplay. You didn't have anything like that.
I kind of feel bad for both families involved.
I mean, it's gotten to the point where
everybody's, it is a little too much.
Like it is what it is.
I've gotten a couple of good laughs
out of some of the memes and stuff,
but like, dude, it's like, families are ending, man.
Like that's not, it's not fun.
It's not fun.
We did, I did walk into so fine. I'm like, could you imagine if there was a kiss cam
in here and you know, you get a little chuckle, but yeah, shout out to George straight. He was
phenomenal. Um, this is my year of concerts, year of concerts. We're going to, uh, Jason Aldean
next month with a Nate Smith, who's a buddy there in Austin. Got a little Nelly coming to town.
I throw back a little bit.
You're going to Nelly.
Oh yeah.
Oh, we got to get Nelly.
It's hot and hot.
We got to get on.
We're working on Nelly.
Shout out to Nelly.
Come on, throwbacks, buddy.
All right.
Well, we are going to be off for two more weeks.
We're basically gearing up, getting ready for football season.
And we're going to be in person.
We're going to come into you next in person, flying out to LA. We've got a bunch of shows coming up.
Football's almost here, buddy. It's almost, it's almost time to start talking about your
New York football giants.
Cam Scataboo. That's my only hope. That's what I'm watching this whole year.
All right. We're out.