Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - QB Breakdowns, Tom Brady's Announcing Debut & Jay Glazer—The Most Interesting Man in the World

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Starting point is 00:00:21 you know nothing about me when it comes to physical basketball ability. You know zero. So let's make a little bet, Mr. Weiner. Are you serious? I'm dead serious. You're dead serious. Let's figure out. This is coming from the guy

Starting point is 00:00:32 who stopped playing pickup basketball because what, he pulled a hammy or he got fouled too hard? What happened? Why'd you stop playing pickup? I stopped playing. I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement.

Starting point is 00:00:45 And by the way, I'm back. I'm ready to go. It is just amazing how music can totally change your mood. Welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. I'm Jerry Ferrara, always joined by Matt Lyon, who I realize, like, I feel like I'm Robin to your Batman. You just got Batman vibes. I got Robin vibes.

Starting point is 00:01:12 It's all good. I've accepted it. Bro, no, dude. I'll be your Robin, buddy. I was saying, it's amazing how music can change your mood because I've been in a bad mood all day since sunday a lot of it has to do with the giants we're gonna talk about the nfl for sure we have a great guest lined up today joining us as jay glazer you know him from nfl on fox you you gotta know glazer for

Starting point is 00:01:35 a while dude right i love i love jay go i go all the way back to probably when i was drafted but like oh seven i had some uh trained with him a little bit, just got to know him. He's awesome, man. Like, I would love to get in the mind of that guy. Like, the insider, the stories, like, he's lived a great life so far. You know what I realized? I know Jay for a long time, too.

Starting point is 00:01:58 He actually trained me, and we're going to talk to him about this, and was prepping me for a movie. Even got me involved into a potential boxing match with an NFL player. We'll get into all that. But also, do you know what I think guys like Glazer, I often look and like, your phone must be really kept on lock. Have you ever gotten to that dude?

Starting point is 00:02:16 Like if he lost his phone. Oh, yeah. That's like his whole business. His whole business is in that phone. If he lost his phone, guys would be going to jail probably i'm telling you i don't deny it there's a lot of cover-ups in the nfl buddy there's a lot of cover-ups in the nfl yeah i mean he he broke spy gate you know and i'm sure a lot of that went through went through his phone uh give us all a follow you can follow matt and i also you can follow throwback show on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, X,

Starting point is 00:02:47 all those good things. And also, like and subscribe. Do that whole thing. We like to see it. A lot of good interactions from the first episode. Yep. So, look, we've got NFL coming up. But I did want to ask you this because I found myself thinking about this.

Starting point is 00:02:59 I was watching, obviously, Michigan-Texas. Huge game. You were there. You were in Michigan. You see McConaughey out there dressed as like a cowboy. All right. All right. All right. My guy, Jeter, who in my eyes might be my first or second favorite athlete of all time. But then it hits me. I know the game was in Michigan, right? But obviously Michigan's playing Texas. And I started thinking about, you know, I've had a lot of people over the years come up to me and talk a little shit.

Starting point is 00:03:26 It's like, oh, there's a turtle from entourage and tell me like, hey, you used to be really fat. Like, just talk trash to me. They're about the same. Yeah. Fat shame. What is it like for you? I'm not saying there was tons of Texas fans there. What are Texas fans saying to you?

Starting point is 00:03:42 Do they do they talk to you? You know, not anymore. You know, we went to Texas last year. And I always kind of have fun with it, you know, but we went to Texas last year and it's just, honestly,

Starting point is 00:03:58 dude, it's kind of sad, but like, I'm so old now that it's like, all of the people that would be talking smack are like, in their forties, maybe a little younger. Like they're all like families and they're just like, if anything, if any, if they bring it up, they're like, Oh, I was at the, you know, the 2006 Rose bowl. What a great game. You know? So I, so I don't get a lot of that anymore, but I will say this. Cause this made me, that made me think of something when I first met my wife.

Starting point is 00:04:26 I'm going to take you back here. I met my wife 12 years ago. I had just retired, literally right out there. At that point, a lot of talking, you're a bust and this. That was fresh, which is fine. We go to, God, we're going on a saturday okay college football saturday this is before i'm working at fox this is this is like fall i'm fresh out of the game i forget what bar it was you would know it's in hollywood it's like it was like one of the

Starting point is 00:04:58 famous sports bars in hollywood is it goal no it wasn't't goal. It's another one like that. Okay, whatever. So I tell her, and we're meeting her friend who went to UT, and I go, hey, babe, like, I just want to let you know that this is probably a bad idea for me to walk into a sports bar on a Saturday fresh off of retirement, okay? I'm just, she was a, she didn't even know I won the Heisman Trophy, dude. Like she could care to, like she could give to.

Starting point is 00:05:29 So you know she loves you for you. She loves you for you. By the way, no doubt, absolutely. So actually it's funny. So I go, I go, I go, I'm just letting you know that this is a bad idea and I might walk out. I'm just letting you know like ahead of time. Dude, I walk in and with, and I'm also tall, right? So I stick out like I'm just letting you know, like, ahead of time. Dude, I walk in, and I'm also tall, right?

Starting point is 00:05:46 So I stick out like a sore thumb. I walk in, and it's packed, and I'm just, like, kind of like, you've probably been there, right? If you're, like, maybe in your heyday, like, you're kind of like, you're just, like, you don't want to be seen, but, like, it's impossible. Dude, I start getting just, you're getting fat shamed, dude. I'm getting, like, career shamed. I'm getting, like, you sock liner. And I'm i'm just like and she goes she was like pulled my arm she goes like whoa

Starting point is 00:06:10 i'm like yeah i told you man like what like oh like i actually instantly got in a bad mood i go next door to like some random restaurant it's this funny story so i go next door i'm like hey you guys stay here i'm good guys like i'm just not gonna be in here it's a bad idea i go next door and she meets me. We're at like this little bar. There's really no one in there. It's like a little restaurant. I had a TV on there.

Starting point is 00:06:31 And all of a sudden, a Heisman commercial came on. And she goes, this is how great my wife is. She goes, hey, didn't you win that thing or something? Like, I'm like, yeah, like I won it. You know, I won it a couple of years ago, like big deal. And that was, that was my day. So for fans heckling, like back in the day, it was awful. Now it's more like, you know what I get now? I get more like, Hey, you're that guy on social media. Like, Oh, you, you and your wife, like you're funny. Like that, that type. So you're funny on Tik TOK. Yeah, dude, I've become, I'm, I'm like TikTok. I'm an influencer now.

Starting point is 00:07:07 I'm definitely not an athlete. Sometimes I forget I even played football. Fans are great. Fans are great for the most part. Urban Meyer in Michigan is not so great. That dude got booed the whole show. It was fantastic. I imagine.

Starting point is 00:07:21 Did you ask him? I saw this on social media. How much money would you, would it cost to make? Dude, I said 25 stacks. Dude, sign me up.

Starting point is 00:07:29 I'll coach at Notre Dame for 25 mil a year. You be my OC, dude. I'll bring it. I'll be the water boy. Right? You pay, right?

Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah, I'll be the water boy. Well, I, yeah, I was wondering that because. Nah, it's not that big of a deal.

Starting point is 00:07:42 Well, look, it does, I don't want to say cross the line, but everyone knows I'm a Giants fan. I mentioned the music earlier in the show because I have been in a bad mood. I had the awesome sports trifecta

Starting point is 00:07:53 where you lose every single fantasy league, you lose every single bet, and then your favorite team gets smacked around. I found myself on the couch eight hours later, just what am I doing with my life? Why did I just put myself through all those losses? And you see the fan after the giants game right and i don't know what your take is on this it's one thing like all right you went to a sports bar you had you knew what you were walking into daniel jones was just leaving the facility and that one fan

Starting point is 00:08:18 waited around talking all sorts of trash and then the burning of the jerseys. Someone needs to explain. Someone needs to explain this to me. Dude, Cleveland burned LeBron's jerseys when he left. And I thought that was the dumbest thing ever. It doesn't make you like a diehard fan. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think from a fan's perspective, clearly, right? And you're as passionate as they come.

Starting point is 00:08:46 Like, you pay the dude 50 mil, you just expect more, right? You expect more. It's just like, and it's now years and years of agony, maybe, at that position. And again, I've always been a fan of Daniel Jones. I kind of continue to root for him. I hope he pulls it out. I've been in that situation a little bit where it's just like, dude, it just sucks, dude. Like, it's tough. You're in the New York market. Um, now granted he's

Starting point is 00:09:07 making a lot of money, but yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like we always, like as athletes, it's, it's like one of those things where like, don't feel bad for us, but we would never go to someone else's workplace and just start like talking to that person. You suck at acting, Jerry screw. Like you just like, it just wouldn't cross my mind, nor would it cross Daniel Jones' mind. So, like, is there a point where it's taken too far? Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:09:32 Do I understand the passion of a New York fan now that I know you better? I get it. But, like, it doesn't accomplish anything. It just makes you look like an idiot. Yeah, I've never burned a jersey.

Starting point is 00:09:44 I've never thought about burning a jersey. I don't get, just throw the thing away if you don't want to rock it anymore. How long does your Giants hangover last? I think I'm in for it. I think I'm in for it with this one. It brought back other memories too as I'm sitting there

Starting point is 00:09:59 because I haven't been to a Giants game since 08. And I was thinking maybe this year and maybe I'll take like my oldest kid. I'll go back to New York. We'll go to a Giants game. I haven't been to, I went to the Superbowl last year, but I don't go to a lot of football games, not like basketball. And then I was reminded of a story which happened on a, on a Thursday in 08. And it was supposed to be like the greatest week of my life, right? We fly back to New York from LA entourage going into season five. We're having our New York premiere of season five of Entourage which is always way more fun than the LA premiere because it's all

Starting point is 00:10:30 our family and our friends and it's just wild party great times we do that on a Wednesday next day Thursday so I remember like September 4th Giants opening up against the then Redskins, getting their rings, you know, stray hand comes out of like a float. Unbelievable night. I'm sitting, I'm on the field. I get to put on the ring. I'm sitting first row. Giants totally hooked me up. Watch the whole game. I'm there like my cousins. Giants win. Awesome night. I go home thinking, wow, this is almost like an episode of Entourage. I'm living, I'm living the dream. it does not get better than this i wake up the next day at seven o'clock in the morning to 300 missed calls 400 text messages i'm immediately thinking who died someone's dead this is awful someone in my family's dead i find out that look in new york wAN is an institution of a sports radio station.

Starting point is 00:11:26 It just is. I listened to it as a kid. I still respect it. They move a conversation in New York with sports easily. So what happened was they're doing, at the time, it was Craig Carton and Boomer Esiason. They're doing their very big radio show in the morning. And I think, if memory serves me, Boomer's assistant comes in to tell a

Starting point is 00:11:46 story about being at the Giants-Redskins game. Said, yeah, I was there. It was great. I was on the field. And you know that guy Turtle from Entourage, whatever, he like sent one of his boys up to me talking about a hotel party after the game and do I want to come back?

Starting point is 00:12:02 Is that a true story? Matt, they are crushing me on my hometown radio network, a place I really respect. Boomer, burying me. All my friends are like, you're an idiot. How could you do that? What's wrong with you? Matt, want to know what I was most offended

Starting point is 00:12:17 by? You are questioning my fandom by thinking I would be at a game like that trying to invite some girl back to a hotel party. First of all, I'd never send another dude up to a girl for me. Secondly, I was already in something that was a pretty good situation with the woman at the time, not my wife right now. And I don't think I've gotten more calls about that. To this day, they still talk about it. They still every now and then fire it up and trash me.

Starting point is 00:12:48 Okay, let me ask. Did not happen. Did not happen. Okay. So she just made that up out of the blue. No, here's what I do think happened. Now, I was at the game with a friend and a cousin-in-law. He's married to my cousin.

Starting point is 00:13:00 Do you think I would send the guy who's married to my female cousin? Someone threw you under the bus, dude. For sure. Do you think it's crazy to say that someone went up there, saw me on the field, saw her, and went up and said, I'm going to pretend to be Turtle's boy over here and see if we can talk to this girl? Because I can promise you, the two other people I was with,

Starting point is 00:13:19 it was not them, and I did not send them. And they tell this story to this day. To this day. First of all, we need to get Boomer on the pod. That's for sure, because I want to hear this story. Does he still hate you? I don't know if he hates me. I think he enjoys frying me to the point where I've gone back and forth

Starting point is 00:13:38 with them on Twitter about this. Does he still fry you? I think they most recently talked about it, like six or seven months ago. And here's the funny thing. I almost worked at WFAN. They offered me a job. Dude, that's got to just be like a dagger to your heart, dude, that your local radio station just doesn't like you. And I haven't been to a Giants game since then. Well, you got to do you got to take the boys. That's an experience as bad as they may be or are, there's nothing better than taking. And because your oldest is five, right?

Starting point is 00:14:10 He's five. Yeah, so he's probably there. He's probably ready to go sit through that. That might be tough. That might actually be a tough three hours for you, though, if they're losing. They're going to be losing, me to maybe to my next point i know i know quarterback is everything in the nfl right now i get facts i have held on to the daniel jones thing maybe

Starting point is 00:14:34 longer than anyone else it's got to be over i'm not trying to over overreact to one game they made the vikings look like super bowl contenders. So I think it's time to start. Are we drafting a quarterback officially? Well, we can ask Glazer that. That's actually a good point. Yeah, I want to ask Jay, like, who do the Giants take? Dude, I feel you.

Starting point is 00:15:00 I got to be honest with you. I feel you on this. I have been a Danny Dimes. I saw someone calling him, what, Danny Pennies? Poor guy. Although his pockets are deep, so he's got that. Yeah, listen. Like, the screen, the pick six, like, that is just the worst luck.

Starting point is 00:15:19 I've had that happen. Like, even, like, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers, who threw a pick? Someone threw a pick someone threw a it got tipped right like every time that ball didn't get tipped by danny dimes i understand that went right to the defensive end he made a great play yeah i mean dude it's just like he made a great play that's a screen the ball but you never see that happen you rarely see the pick six on a screen yes that uh but that just doesn't and i understand but it's also like defensive players never make that

Starting point is 00:15:46 play too. So like I can defend it both ways. It's a bad play, dude. It sucks. And it makes him look bad. I think he's got more, more pick sixes and touchdown passes or something. I saw that stat like in the last year or something, something, something wild. I don't know. Andrew might be able to, our producer might be able to lift that. I think he's got more pick sixes than actual touchdown passes. There's something floating around out there. Dude, the island is bleak. It's barren. Yeah, but, you know, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:16:17 I mean, what do you want as a Giants fan? You want, who is it? Who's the backup? It's Drew Locke. Drew Locke. You want to see Drew Locke yeah well not yet but I think you have to run Danny Dimes out there as painful as who knows this can all be part of the plan it might just be like hey let's just get a top three pick

Starting point is 00:16:33 they were trying to get a quarterback in the draft they tried to move up and then they did pass on Penix and McCarthy so I guess how bad did they really want it? Is it, is it the sort of thing that we're now the situation is just so bad. It's irreparable. Cause he's in also a pretty bad situation. Not only is he playing bad, but he's also in a pretty rough situation for a quarterback. Is this one of the worst situations you could be in? Uh, yeah, dude. And that's what I always, I always think now he's not young, but i always think of quarterbacks and a lot of success is driven on your surrounding cast it's driven on uh coaching it's driven on franchise and like i i will say this like quarterbacks can go to certain places and just die they can and what i mean by that is if you go to a place

Starting point is 00:17:26 who, one, an owner or a franchise notoriously hasn't invested in the team and what's best in the team, right? There's a handful of places that I can mention, and we know, okay? Or they don't spend money, or they don't want to put your quarterback in a position to be successful.

Starting point is 00:17:47 And if you look at Daniel Jones, and again, he's had ample opportunity, but their offensive line has been terrible. I know they just drafted Malik Neighbors, who I think is going to be a star, but he's a rookie. They got rid of the best player on the team in Saquon Barkley, who went off for the Phillies in week one, or Philadelphia in week one.

Starting point is 00:18:07 If you don't have a surrounding cast, I'm telling you, man, I'm telling you, two or three years go by, then all of a sudden, you're done. He now, for Daniel Jones, he's done enough

Starting point is 00:18:22 where you saw potential. You guys got to a playoff a couple years ago. Two years ago against those very Vikings. I'm saying he's done enough where you saw potential, right? You guys got to a playoff, right? Two years ago against those very Vikings. So I'm saying, like, he's done enough. So he's in a little different place. I look at some of these quarterbacks. I want to mention Sam Darnold, okay? And I know he beat your Giants.

Starting point is 00:18:36 I've hated on him the whole time. Okay, and listen to this. He goes to the New York Jets, what, five years ago? Yep. They were awful, dude. Awful. Awful. And what happened? He's getting, he's just getting crushed out there. He can't handle it. Blah, blah, blah. Sam Darnold is talented. Now, like, is he a top 10 quarterback? He is talented. He is getting

Starting point is 00:18:58 crushed. Why? They got nobody around him. His coaching was absolutely horrendous. He goes to Carolina. And by the way, Carolina's even worse. We could talk about Bryce Young here in a second. Carolina's even worse. With Baker Mayfield in Carolina, look what he's doing now. Look at Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold goes to the Minnesota Vikings.

Starting point is 00:19:17 A good franchise with a freaking awesome head coach and an offensive-minded play caller. And look what happened. I know it's one week, but I'm telling you, Sam Darnold is going to have a great year. He's going to have a great year. I promise you right now. He's not comeback player of the year, though.

Starting point is 00:19:32 He might not be comeback player of the year, but the dude, like, when you're in a system, I'm telling you, when you're in a system and you're coached, I've been coached in a quarterback room where I was literally saying, like, my son knows more, my unborn son knows more than this quarterback coach. It is mind-boggling how bad some NFL coaches are. So all that being said, dude, like, it's tough.

Starting point is 00:19:56 Danny Dimes has been there for a while. But I'm telling you, man, when you go to a place and you don't have guys around you, like, it can just deteriorate very very quickly well someone i know who might be liking what's going on with the giants is uh philly's own andrew gunling our producer who just sent us in the chat a tweet from josh dubow basically since signing a four-year 160 million dollar contract with the giants before last season daniel jones has thrown there more td passes to the opposition. Three pick sixes than to his own team, two TD passes.

Starting point is 00:20:28 I don't know. That's why when you look at the Dak Prescott signing, it's like, yeah, of course. Yeah. Whether you think Dak is an amazing quarterback or not, he's a good quarterback. He's a really good quarterback. By the way, talk about walking into a game.

Starting point is 00:20:42 Who slept better Sunday night than Dak Prescott? then dax dax won 65 of his starts think about that all i know is he got paid and then you would have said okay this will be really interesting he got that big contract they announced it before the game and if he goes and sucks in cleveland that's going to start a whole new you know news cycle for 24 hours and he just goes and balls out and the cowboys destroy what we thought is a good team in the Browns. That would have been nice to be Dak Prescott yesterday. I mean, dude, just this quarterback money now is just, I mean, it's just thrown around like Tic Tacs, dude.

Starting point is 00:21:15 Like it is unbelievable. Well, speaking of that game, that was the Fox game. That was also, you know, Brady's first game in the booth. I know everyone's kind of had their takes flying around about, oh, that was terrible. That was great. Give him a chance. I don't know if you caught

Starting point is 00:21:33 much of that game. I watched a lot of that game. I did. I watched most of it. Cleveland's my team in law, you know, that's who my family roots for. So I want them to do good things. And they're in the AFC. Well, you did have a rough weekend. It was terrible. There's nothing good other than the food i prepped for my wife while i was watching the games nothing else was good but brady in the booth i thought he did a good job that's a hard job i don't i don't envy i do envy it in some sense but i remember we had

Starting point is 00:22:02 brady on entourage years ago talk about what fans yell at me all the time. They'll come up and shout, Tom Brady sucks balls, because that's what my character says to him. You know. Brady comes on the show, obviously not an actor. Coming off the injury season, too. So no one had seen him in a while. He's probably the longest anyone's ever gone without talking about Tom Brady.

Starting point is 00:22:22 And yeah, he comes on the show late notice, because that episode was supposed to be for other quarterbacks. We can get to that if we want. Comes on first take like every actor. It was a little rough. Take two, getting better. By take three or four, it's like,

Starting point is 00:22:34 oh my God, this guy could be an actor if he wants to. You guys were golfing. Weren't you golfing in that scene? The episode is a golf episode, which if memory serves me correct, that episode was requested by the Manning brothers. Peyton and Eli wanted to do the show. I think this is 07, maybe 08. They wanted to do the show. Doug Ellen writes this whole thing about the Chase brothers versus the Manning brothers.

Starting point is 00:22:55 And then something happened, call it scheduling or change of heart. 10 days before we have the whole episode prepped, ready to go, money being spent. They can't do it. They're out. We have no one to fill the spot. And this is where having Wahlberg as your executive producer is unbelievable because he comes into the production office and basically says, you want me to call Tom? We're all looking around like, what? Tom's selling? What Tom are you talking about? He's like, Brady. We're like, yeah, go call him. He goes out in the hallway, comes back two minutes later. He's like, oh yeah, Brady's going to do it. It'll be me and Brady. We'll fill in. So I think it ends up being better in a weird way because of the Giants Patriots stuff all those

Starting point is 00:23:33 years later. But he was great on the show. It took him a little bit of a warmup, few takes in, and the next thing you know, he's rocking takes. And I think that's exactly what's going to happen with the broadcasting job. That's a hard gig. Dude, do you know, like, I don't think so there's, there's two like ways to, um, kind of when you prepare for either studio, which is much different or calling a game. So in studio, this was the advice, which, which is me, like I'm on a pregame show, kind of a big show, whatever. But like, we were always like the advice I was given, it was like, study a mile wide, an inch deep, be able to talk about everything. Surface level, substance, some of that, but be able to talk about everything because you're, you know, you're basically 20 seconds of time when you speak, right? When you call a game, it's an inch wide and a mile deep. You are digging into a team,

Starting point is 00:24:27 two teams. You're digging into stories. You're digging into from last year to this year, players, all of these things. And it is, it is a, it is an art form. It is a, it is a skillset. You talk to anybody, even the best, like, and I would say this, like, I thought he did a good job. Um, first of all, like Tom's my, uh, Tom's the best and he will prepare and work harder at this than anybody just because that's his, that's his mentality. Um, I think the problem is, and sometimes in that is like, and you know, this is just watching games, like, you know, like less is more, right? When do you, when do you come in to talk about a play when do you let kevin burkhart his teammate who's one of the best in the business you know you you give him layups right you get like that's that's the job of the play-by-play is to give the color

Starting point is 00:25:14 guy layups like no matter who you are um he's gonna be fantastic the problem with his is he's so smart and he's got so much to say that there's not enough time to do that. And I think that's what, I mean, can you imagine like, dude, like sitting down with Tom for three hours and just picking his brain about football would be like, it'd be like the greatest thing of all time. But yeah, now he's got to, he's got to talk about that in a live game, in a setting against teams and players that he just played against. And like, you got to find your rhythm and that's what it's about. So,

Starting point is 00:25:46 uh, he's going to be great. You know, it's, it's a, it's, I thought I honestly, like I actually enjoyed watching it and that's not me just because he's at

Starting point is 00:25:53 Fox. So this, like, I just think Tom is going to be fantastic at it. I think it'll just get taken used to the more reps he gets, the better he's going to be. But dude, the dude's the goat for a reason that he'll,

Starting point is 00:26:03 he'll end up being one of the best to do it for sure. I think everybody does want the feeling of, Hey, we just watched the game with Tom Brady. That's not how live television works. However, now once he gets, yeah. Once he gets better, you'd be like, like, like, I think you want to like, you want to walk away from a game, right. Learning something, right. Learning something. And his brain is brain is just i mean it's ridiculous so like it'll get there and there's going to be little nuggets and little anecdotes and things about defense and this and it's he's going to get there man i'm telling you that guy but talk about like the expectation i mean like getting paid 300 plus mil the best ever to do it walks in on that's nerve-wracking i don't care who you are man like

Starting point is 00:26:45 it is i i've i've never called the game but even in student even now when the red light comes on like tv and you i mean you've you're you obviously like when you're when you're live and you're going through your like it is like it's it's different you know it's different than playing so live is a whole different beast oh dude it's a whole beast man i could barely handle this podcast and we record so i can't imagine being live. We'll keep looking. I think he's going to be fine. I'd say everybody chill out.

Starting point is 00:27:09 It'll get there. But yeah, he'll get there. Did you like it? You liked it? Brady in the booth? Yeah. I thought where it really worked for me. And look, by the way, the game wasn't good.

Starting point is 00:27:22 And that's the thing. You get, you get. Yeah. Is he supposed to trash to Sean Watson? No. Leave all of us on Twitter to do that. me and look by the way the game wasn't good and that's the thing you get you get yeah is he supposed to trash to sean watson no leave all of us on twitter to do that because that's what everybody did you know the cowboys made it look easy so what is he supposed to say yet the cowboys pass rush is unbelievable the browns can't handle it the sean watson's having problems there really wasn't a lot of climactic things right for him to discuss i thought he filled a lot of time in a

Starting point is 00:27:44 good way toward the end when the game was already in hand, when he started talking about, you know, being an athlete, everyone's kind of, he essentially said, everyone's kissing your ass, right? I enjoy when a coach or someone calls you out and puts it, put your name on it. And I thought that's where it was almost like a sneak peek. You know, he's going to do that more where he stopped just trying to know everything about those players on the field and gave you a little Brady. You know he's going to do that more where he stopped just trying to know everything about those players on the field and gave you a little Brady.

Starting point is 00:28:08 So I thought I saw enough with that. And then I now want to see him in a good game. And he can't control that. But I do want to see him in a good game. He's doing Cowboys-Saints in week two. It's crazy he's doing two Cowboy games in a row. The Saints, I don't know if we could like read too much into what they did

Starting point is 00:28:25 to Carolina and- Dude, dropped almost a 50 burger on Carolina week one. I don't get, that's tough in the NFL. Wow. Carolina. My poor guy, Bryce Young, man.

Starting point is 00:28:35 You know Bryce, right? You don't really- I love, yeah. That's just one of those situations where, again, I think you got to play better, right? You can make better choices. And I didn't watch the film.

Starting point is 00:28:47 I saw part of the game and some highlights, but you just, again, another situation where there's just not a lot around you. There's just not. And, you know, like, no disrespect to Carolina and the fans. Just like, it's like, I've played there a handful. Like, you know, like, it's just a tough place to be. And you go back to last year.

Starting point is 00:29:09 Like Sam was there last year, right? Darnold? Oh, no, Sam was in San Francisco, but he's there a couple of years ago. He was there. Baker was there. Yeah, it's just like, man, like it's just, it's tough. And I just feel for him, like,

Starting point is 00:29:21 he might be better off in a year or two, like just getting out of there, having a fresh start somewhere else, because I still think he's uber-talented. But again, like I said, sometimes you can kind of go to places and they forget about you, and all of a sudden you're year four or five, and it's like, wow, what am I doing now? I don't know. I'm rooting for him, though.

Starting point is 00:29:40 Have you checked out the slate? Is there a game that jumps out to you this week that I always like to say, what game, if you could go to just as a spectator, would you want to go to? Is there a game? Because I have one. It's a very easy one. I have one that I would just love to go to. Yeah, you tell me.

Starting point is 00:29:55 I'm looking up right now. Well, I just think that the Bengals-Chiefs is the most compelling game of the week for so many reasons. You know, can the Chiefs build off of what they did week one? Obviously, the Bengals had maybe the most they look bad they were just a teaser parlay suicide pool killer for everybody for sure every killed so many dreams including some of mine by the way it just happened so they have to respond that's the one i would i would i think i'd want to go to i mean i'm looking here i mean i think i think i know you're i feel like i could predict yours what what is it if i

Starting point is 00:30:32 had to guess you i feel like you're going sunday night to houston to watch cj get your boy caleb am i right you're right boy that was the one that's the one that stood out there's so much there for you got caleb Caleb. You got CJ. Houston's a fun city. Yeah. I played there. It was one of my favorite places. I played there two years, man. I loved it.

Starting point is 00:30:51 And I love CJ Stroud. I got to know him and covering him at Ohio State. Great kid, dude. And just honestly, like one of my favorite players, just a great kid. Works his butt off. Obviously, man, had a great year. That's a fun to D'Amico. Ryan's was my teammate in Houston. I know D'Amico. Well, like he's awesome. He's just the best dude. And then yeah, the bears like Caleb, obviously the bears kind of won defense

Starting point is 00:31:17 and special teams this past week, but, uh, that's an exciting game. Like both young teams, both exciting teams, both potentially playoff teams again, at least for the Bears this year. So that would be it. That's a nice finish to the weekend. Well, it was a great guest in week one. Ashton Kutcher was smiling with that Bears win. We have a great guest for you this week. We're going to take a quick break.

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Starting point is 00:32:44 Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. He's finally here. He's my L.A. big bro. That's how I always refer. Anytime his name comes up, I say that's literally my L.A. big brother. Jay Glazer is here with us. Jay, thank you for stopping by and hanging with us.

Starting point is 00:32:58 Absolutely. You guys are my guys, man. We've all been fighting here for a long time, the three of us. I know. I want to hear this story about you and Jerry. What about you? Why don't you and I start it? I started training in MMA in like 2008, right?

Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, it was 2008. Something like that. When did you come out? By the way, I say this still to this day. Well, it goes without saying, the hardest workout of all time. But I remember we were up in Scottsdale or Phoenix. And I think it was 07 or 08 summer offseason. And you were there.

Starting point is 00:33:34 And you were like, dude, come train with me. And I was kind of, you know, it was like after my rookie year, I was trying to figure out like. And we trained with Bader. You did. Yeah. Brian. Bader and C.B. I made you a mug. You did. Brian. Bader and C.B. Dalloway.

Starting point is 00:33:48 Yep. Brian Bader and Aaron Simpson. And Jamie Varner. And I'll never forget this, dude. So, like, I'm training one day, and I'm doing this. Like, I'm carrying the heavy bag, like, corner to corner on the mat. I'm beating it down. I'm going.

Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm, like, doing, like, these rounds, right, for, like, 30 or 45 minutes.. I'm beating it down. I'm going, I'm like doing like these rounds, right? For like 30 or 45 minutes. And this was one specific day. And I like to pride myself, like I still work hard. Like I respected, like it was like, I pride myself like I'm not, I'm never gonna quit. I'm not gonna tap out. I'm not gonna throw up. Like I'm just gonna go.

Starting point is 00:34:18 And dude, it was like 30 minutes in. And I'm like, I'm breathing. I'm like, dude, this is rough. And then all of a sudden, I think it was Jay or might've been Bader. Cause they were just screwing with me the whole time. They're like, dude, that wasn't even the workout, bro. That was our warmup. I swear to God. I'm like, what dude? And then they were doing like, it was like another two hours of lifting and all that. I'm just like, dude, I, this is why I'm not a fighter. Those guys and Jay, you guys

Starting point is 00:34:43 are just built different, dude. It's like the mentality, but it was awesome, man why I'm not a fighter. Those guys and Jay, you guys are just built different, dude. It's like the mentality, but it was awesome, man. I had such a blast doing that. The whole point is if we can make football easy, that's what I try to do. By the way, the guys we were training back then, it was Jared Allen, Victor Hobbs, Matt Starks. But the whole point is if I can get you to do a three-minute round

Starting point is 00:35:00 with a one-minute break, you damn sure could do a seven-second round with a one-minute break in football. So that's the whole thing. thing is like you push yourself and push yourself our whole program is called unbreakable we push our breaking points so everything else becomes easy but hey and also matt like man when we got you i was like hey matt i don't want you to sit back in the pocket and be like oh i gotta get away from this guy this guy this guy i'm like that i want you to go get that mother getting that motherfucker. I'm getting that motherfucker. I'm getting that motherfucker.

Starting point is 00:35:26 Like, we're relentless. We burn up. And you had a half against the Steelers in preseason where you threw for like 330 and a half. Green Bay. Green Bay. Green Bay. I was like, there he is.

Starting point is 00:35:37 And then you got hurt. I'm like, man. Dude, remember? We went to Couture's place in Vegas. Well, by the way, so. Me and you and Patrick Willis. Patrick Willis. Who, by the way, so. Me and Patrick Willis. Patrick Willis, who, by the way, my tooth is still chipped from Patrick Willis

Starting point is 00:35:49 on Monday Night Football 2007. Just, I didn't even wear a mouthpiece. Just completely annihilated me. I'll never, remember this, Jay? We were sitting there and I took my pops. This was like a fun, great couple of days for us. And Vitor Belfort was getting ready to fight, I think, Anderson Silva.

Starting point is 00:36:06 I think he ended up, I don't know if he backed out, but he ended up not fighting in that fight. But I was playing catch with Vitor Belfort. In the cage. By the way, like, right, one of the greatest fighters, athletes. This dude looked like he had two right hands catching the ball.

Starting point is 00:36:18 Like, he could not throw. He couldn't catch. And by the way, his son. His son's a great quarterback now. His son's a great quarterback. Yeah. It's freaking amazing. It started with you.

Starting point is 00:36:27 He's in the cage. I think it was Forrest Griffin. Forrest Griffin. Yeah, he was the one. Right? Gina Carano was there. Yeah, these guys are trying to throw a football. Obviously, they can't.

Starting point is 00:36:39 They do so great. We also had, wait, we had a couple of the Saints. Had a jet. They all got popped for star caps. And they landed to come train with us. And they ended up winning their appeal. So it was Calvin Pace. It was a couple of the Saints.

Starting point is 00:36:55 They landed to train with us in Vegas because I didn't have a gym in L.A. then. And by the time they landed, the GM had called and said, no, come back. You just won your appeal and then i'm going back i think we're at cal base for a day and he went back to the jets yeah jay was i the first actor that you've trained you've gone on to train lots of actors you opened up the la gym but i came to you when i was attached to play a turo gatti yeah movie ended up not getting made trousers my favorite fighter of all time and Yeah, you're looking like him too. That was the big thing.

Starting point is 00:37:27 Like, can we get you to look like him? Was that why Jerry was a little heavier? No, no, Jerry, no. We leaned Jerry out like crazy with his boxing training. But you know what, Jerry? We trained before I opened Unbreakable. Somebody had connected. Oh, I think Strahan connected us to train you.

Starting point is 00:37:46 It was Strahan and Brad Slater connected us. Right, connected, right, Strahan and Brad Slater to train you to look like, or to work out of your fight leg. And you and I were going around a bunch of just random gyms. Yes, before we got the spot. And yeah, Jerry could box. Jerry picked it up big time. You know what, too?

Starting point is 00:38:03 I've trained a lot of performers, and they're a lot better than a lot of the athletes in a way because they take their ego out of it. They're not trying to kill it, right? And plus, especially musical performers like Demi Lovato and Wiz Khalifa and them, because they do so much choreography, they could put together steps of, you know, move your hip here and turn your toe over here and move your hips over this way better than us with our lung keg egos. And they take the ego out of it, and they're just better at it than us.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Well, it is humbling walking into your gym, because then you open up Unbreakable on Sunset. Awesome gym. I walk in there. I was one of the first, maybe the first client. By the time the football players rolled in, I'm rolling in to work out, do my actor stuff, just looked apart. And it's like, oh, it's Jadavian Clowney.

Starting point is 00:38:52 There's Lane Johnson. Oh, Jay comes up to me. He's like, today, oh, someone, I got you paired with Aaron Rodgers today. I'm like, oh, I'm working out. I worked out with him for three weeks. But then it almost backfired because I was doing a lot of the boxing stuff. And Orlando Skandrick was working out there as well. And obviously he was on the Cowboys.

Starting point is 00:39:10 So him and I were chirping, good spirited. But you know when it's like. We sell a locker room there, right? Yes. We sell my immaturity. No doubt. Wherever we go. No doubt.

Starting point is 00:39:18 Right? And that's what's great about a locker room. If the rest of the world acted like a locker room, we wouldn't be so fucked up. We'd get along a lot better. Go wouldn't be so up. We get along. Go Jerry. Yeah. Well, no.

Starting point is 00:39:26 So I'm hitting mitts with Jay one day and he's like, you know what? Orlando, get over here. He's like, Jerry would beat your ass. And Orlando's obviously like, uh,

Starting point is 00:39:35 what? And now Jay's like, all right, one, two, and then slip and give me that hard overhand. Right. As hard as you can.

Starting point is 00:39:40 And Jay leans his mitt into it too. So you really get the pop. And even now everyone in the gym starts filtering over to the point where I sent Matt the picture and I sent you too we had like a scheduled fight yep we were gonna like spar in the gym now Jay I never told you this I was really nervous because I mean I didn't show it that's our whole thing you don't show it you don't show it and yeah but inside jerry would hit i'd be like orlando jerry's gonna you up of course you would orlando you can't deal with it and then orlando loves to talk so he'd come over we made it a thing and we ended up doing a towel

Starting point is 00:40:16 the tape yes and matt saw the picture and said he just based off the picture matt goes oh orlando would beat your ass just based off the picture i mean dude i Oh, Orlando would beat your ass. Just based off the picture. I mean, dude, I'm just, listen, I saw, dude, you're my boy, man.

Starting point is 00:40:27 I got your back. I got your back. He just looks way bigger than you. And then there's Jay. I don't care about it. And I want to tell Jerry, I don't care if we win or lose, just be willing to fight.

Starting point is 00:40:36 Oh yeah. That makes you real dangerous. If you take that ego out. Well, the coolest thing too, is I remember, uh, when you had Lane Johnson in there,

Starting point is 00:40:43 I remember this specifically, cause I think he just started I don't think he had any Pro Bowls at this point yet no he did not he threw up nine times I remember him going outside he was puking coming right back and hitting the workout and I think the dude's been in the Pro Bowl every year since then

Starting point is 00:40:57 every year since then and yeah it was just a whole experience he kind of has been our poster child for what that program was and him and Jared Allen. But man, Lane really took it upon himself to say, okay,

Starting point is 00:41:11 I'm not going to show it. I'm going to be relentless. I'm going to see where everybody else puts their hands on their hips. And when they start huffing and puffing, then I'm going to start sharpening my weapons. I'm going to make it a fight. And that's the whole thing. Like if you turn any sport you're playing or business,

Starting point is 00:41:24 you're making a fight, most people don't sign up to fight. Most people sign up to play a sport. Those people sign up to play a sport and you make it a fight. They're going to tap out. They're done. And it's exactly, I mean,

Starting point is 00:41:35 Lane just took it on. Like I was, we were so proud of him in, in, in, in every little thing he did. Cause it wasn't just like we teach violent hand fighting. We teach leverage.

Starting point is 00:41:46 But the biggest part was, is again, I talked to Ego a bunch. We wore Lane out. And he was like, I'm going to take my ass whoopings like a man. It's fine. It's going to make me better. He just, and a lot of guys can't do that. A lot of guys, when you beat up on them, they're like, oh no, I'm not looking good. A lot of guys want to be famous instead of being great.

Starting point is 00:42:06 Two totally different things. Lane is great. Who are you training currently? You still got some guys out there? I'm trained, yeah. This offseason, I trained Derwin James, Max Crosby a little bit. But, man, how about this? The first 15 minutes in, Derin tears my bicep tendon,

Starting point is 00:42:26 has super spinatus in my rotator cuff. And then Max comes in, and he exacerbates it. And he actually – there was one, like, hand-fighting thing that Max got me on where it just popped, and I was like, oh, and he knew it. Later on, I talked about it. I was like, hey, by the way, guys, because, again, I tell these guys, like, we don't show it. We don't show it.

Starting point is 00:42:44 If you hurt or you're tired in that cage or on that field you will never ever ever ever know and so i told those guys a month later they'll walk their other tracks you've been trying to do surgery on me ever since i'm supposed to get surgery in april but i got married and then when i got back he was supposed to do it but then he went south france he actually just hit me up the other day to do it, but I just went down to Panama and got some stem cells at a place called Origins. I'm feeling good. I don't know if I'm going to get it or not, but I'm walking around with a torn bicep tendon this whole

Starting point is 00:43:14 time. It didn't stop you, too, this summer, right? You went on your Glazer tour, right? You hit all the training camps? Yep, absolutely. A billion percent. You know, you're one of the best in the business, right? Insider and I find your job fascinating. I play the sport. You and I have been close for a long time, so I kind of understand the inner workings of that. But how does that begin for you? What is the story behind your job and how you got to this point my god no i'm i gotta i almost say like i kind of made a career out of nothing because there was no minute by minute breaking news guy but so here's the thing guys the truth is jerry you know this i started my career intern at wfan in, 90. Got a job covering the Giants in 93.

Starting point is 00:44:06 There was no internet back then. I made $9,450 a year for the first 11 years of my career. 11 years. But I walked in that giant locker room the first day. Got a job for this little Giants newspaper called Giants Extra where they went Chapter 11 my first month. And I got New York 1 TV started up and they gave me zero dollars. Eventually they gave me 450 bucks a year, three installments of $150. But I walked in that giant locker room from day one.

Starting point is 00:44:35 I'm like, man, how can I be different? Like these dudes are going to, if they work 40 hours a week, I'm going to work them not by a little, by a lot. Like, you know, the blueprint for greatness, not greatness, but it's not a big secret. Find out who the best is and do more than them by a lot. And it's those hours you put in that no one's watching. So, man, every single day, if those guys work 40 hours, I work 100. And I wasn't able to pay my other bills because I couldn't get, like, side jobs and side hustling and stuff. But the other thing I said is, man,

Starting point is 00:45:11 how can I be different from everybody else in here? These guys, I felt the old school reporters used their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships. And I got murdered for it for years for I'm not being objective. I'm friends with the players. I'm friends with the coaches. I'm like, I got more in common with these guys than I do you guys. But I also said, I don't think you're being objective because if they don't talk to you, you're killing them.

Starting point is 00:45:36 So they used to write about me in stray hand and they would like, man, they torture just guests. And every time I try to get a job, they would like the bosses will go ask the reporters and I'd get killed. Then I'm not being objective, but I just felt like everything I do is relationship based. And I just had this confidence like, man, eventually, like, you know, you build a better mousetrap. Someone's eventually going to want to buy it, but it took 11 freaking years. And like during that whole time,

Starting point is 00:46:01 I didn't have enough money to go from New York city, take a subway to bus to Giant Stadium back every day. Every freaking day. I had to wait for Strahan. Didn't even live in the city to drive me back in New York City. So I'm like 28 grand at Lincoln Tunnel Fair. But as a result of that, I'd sit there every day and talk to players and coaches in the parking lot and build up the relationships. And I just became like a relationship guy. Then when free agency began, my name had kind of gotten around.

Starting point is 00:46:33 And again, it wasn't like internet or film, but I started getting calls from people. And most people don't know this. I started getting calls from these low level like scouts and coaching assistants saying, hey, we hear, you know, these players, what do you know about Keyshawn Johnson? What do you know about Michael Brooks? What do you know about this player, this player, that player? We hear you're the guy that knows all the players. Well, about 35, 40 of those guys have gone on to become head coaches and GMs,

Starting point is 00:46:59 low level guys that I just talked to everybody. That's where ADHD comes in handy. Like you just want to talk and talk and talk. And I, you know, I've built up relationships over the years and I always, I always had this thing of, I'm not going to go for the scoop.

Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm going to try and be the most trusted guy in sports and that's it. And with, you know, that the scoops will come. Right. Just don't ever burn anybody. And I don't even, by the way,

Starting point is 00:47:21 I've had some really, really rough stories and a lot of friends of mine. Well, my thing is who would you rather have it? Me or someone else? Cause I'm going to be fair about it. So the way, I've had some really, really rough stories and a lot of friends of mine. But my thing is, who would you rather have it? Me or someone else? Because I'm going to be fair about it. So I've, you know, I've had friends pop for steroids. I've broken it. I've had friends get arrested for stealing stuff in locker rooms. I've broken it. And they've talked to me about it because you have that trust that you build up. Well, eventually guys, that internet thing came out in 99. Thank God almighty. I finally got a full-time job for 50 grand for CBS.

Starting point is 00:47:47 And then that got me on national TV. And then WCBS, I'm sorry, CBSSportsLine.com. So me and like Chris Mortensen and John Clayton and Len Pascual, the first minute-by-minute breaking news guys to do it. And then back then, man, I had everything. And Jerry, you were around back then. Also, Matt, you were too. I had every little breaking story. And thank God over the years, I've been able to just, you know, to, to, as it become a Twitter war, Fox has been like, Hey, we just need you to be Fox NFL Sunday. And you don't have to tweet

Starting point is 00:48:21 first before everybody else. Cause that's not, that's bull. Well, that's what I wanted to ask you too because I remember I was always obsessed with your Sunday routine. Didn't you like, maybe a Saturday night, right? Didn't you go to the Peninsula Hotel or something? You went to like a hotel, Beverly Wilshire, and you just, you and your phone sit down. You'd be working, like just you alone.

Starting point is 00:48:38 Oh, it starts Friday though. It starts Friday and I go. Yeah, I usually get a day drinking spot and I sit there and get on the phone and I call every single team. I still do it every team every week every head coach every gym but not every but like man like it there's there's you know a thousand phone calls that go into me getting five stories per weekend and there's you know I put out 1% of what I know that's it 1%? Yeah but it's like

Starting point is 00:49:07 I have a responsibility to those guys on that show to do my job better than anybody else and I've always taken that like I'm responsible to them I'm never gonna as I've gotten bigger and bigger too I remember Dan Quinn years ago I'm like at the height I'm doing ballers

Starting point is 00:49:23 I'm like year 3 and I'm breaking everything and I still do my training camp tour every year, which is 40 days on the road. I go from team to team to team to team. Just me. Still do it. And DQ said, why are you still here? What do you mean? I said, haven't you moved up and on from this? My brother is

Starting point is 00:49:39 no up and on from this. You guys are my family. You're my community. You helped me between the years more than anything. I don't don't care how big i get the nfl for me that's that is my that's my family i need my teams and there's no moving up and on from that he's like oh i get it i get it how how did you you broke the iuk right was that this week that was a big one that was a fascinating right so so so take us behind the scenes of how that transpired, if you can. I was actually, it's funny because I was, oh man, here's one for you. So I'll go back.

Starting point is 00:50:14 I happen to be in Steelers camp. You guys know me. I always put weird groups together. I'm in Steelers camp. Here's something nobody knows. I'm in Steelers camp. I bring Brent Michaels with me because he's from Pittsburgh. That's right.

Starting point is 00:50:27 That's right. Okay. And now that I say, I'm gonna bring you here, but I want you to take Mason Tomlin is my Tomlin son. And I want you to meet with him. He he's a, he's a musician.

Starting point is 00:50:36 So I want you to meet. So we met out here at Soho Malibu hooked. Everything's great. And he's like, you know what, Mason, I think you got it. I'll have you open up for me.

Starting point is 00:50:43 He actually had my Tomlin son open up for him in Pittsburgh in July. That's great. And he's like, you know what, Mason? I think you got it. I'll have you open up for me. He actually had my Tomlin son open up for him in Pittsburgh in July. That's awesome. I said, as a result, I'm going to bring you to camp. So I bring him to Steelers camp, right? And he was like, I was like, I do a lot of charity. He's my charity today. And while I'm there, the Niners are trying to get a trade. The Steelers are trying to trade for Iuke. But in the meantime, so what happened was the Niners had talked to a couple other teams, but Iuke wouldn't go in Cleveland and New England. He wanted to go to Pittsburgh, but the Niners needed a receiver back. So basically they were getting a two and a three and something else from Pittsburgh, and then they had like another trade with that three to go to another team

Starting point is 00:51:28 and that one would have completed it well we're sitting there me and and and uh brett michaels and mason tomlin and mike tomlin in mike's dorm room and you guys know me man i like to socialize when i'm on the road so mike T is like called off the rest of his meetings because I'm in town for the day. You know how it is, Matt, when I come in. It's more King Clay's, right? Let's go. I work out with the team. I'm pushing guys in the huddle.

Starting point is 00:51:55 I eat with them, man. I'll get IVs. I'll work out. They do my laundry, everything. So here's the best part. So John Lynch, I want to break the story. I see what's going on. I'm sitting there in Mike Tomlin's dorm room and the phone's sitting there and Lynch isn't getting back to me.

Starting point is 00:52:09 He's not getting back to Tomlin and it's going on and on. Well, now he's getting in the way of my day drinking. So he's not getting back to me. He's not getting back to Mason. And I'm like, hey, I'm starving. Let's go. So we go to this little bar called Dino's.

Starting point is 00:52:23 Me, Mike T and Brett Michaels and Mason. So we go to this little bar called Dino's. Me, Mike T, and Brett Michaels, and Mason. And Lynch won't come back to us. So we're like, Mason, text John Lynch. This is Mike Tomlin's son. Text John Lynch. Tell him he is getting in the way of our day drinking day. Okay? And our beer and wings.

Starting point is 00:52:38 So he hits up Lynch. And two seconds, Lynch gets back to Tomlin's son. We're like, he won't get back to us. He's getting back to Mason Tomlin, right? So we're like, Lynch, let's go. We got things to do here. I got a story to break. And next thing you know, he goes dark again.

Starting point is 00:52:55 So I have my wife, Rosie, hit up John Lynch. And she says something like, hey, John, this is Rosie, Jay Glazer's wife. Jay really needs his routines. He reports that you're getting in the way of their day drinking day. Is there a way you could please complete this trade so he can get back in his routine and I don't have to hear about it from my husband and Mike T. And John Lynch just gets back to Rosie. Oh, no, Rosie, not you. Finally, we're keeping going.

Starting point is 00:53:28 I said, Brett, now you got to do it. So then Brett Michaels hits him up going, John Lynch, can you please get this thing going? So I was there when it was actually happening the original time. But this one, yeah, this was last week. And you know, it's funny because I was with the Niners in Vegas.

Starting point is 00:53:45 They kind of pulled their offer originally. And then when he – when I reported this weekend that he was getting traded to the Steelers, he happened to show up early. And he went downstairs. He found Kyle. And Kyle's trying to get on the phone with Lynch and all those guys and can't get on the phone with him. And he sprints upstairs.

Starting point is 00:54:03 Luckily, Kyle works out. He sprinted upstairs and was able to, you't get on the phone with him. And he sprints upstairs. Luckily, Kyle works out. He sprinted upstairs and was able to put a stop to it. It was pretty wild just to... That's crazy. Yeah, but that's the trust. If you're there and you're around it, you see it all.

Starting point is 00:54:15 You get more insight than anybody else. That's the most Glazer story ever. I was with Bret Michaels, Mike T's kid, and my wife was texting John Lynch. Could you imagine if Rosie was responsible for that trade happening?

Starting point is 00:54:31 That's amazing. Rosie hears a lot of stuff that goes on in the NFL. She's probably the second best insider out there. I imagine she has some of the other 99% of the stuff that you don't put out there. Yeah, she hears it all. And it's funny too because now

Starting point is 00:54:47 she's changed my life. I got married in May. Congrats. That's a huge deal. Hey, you guys have been around my crazy for a long time. For a long time, I didn't feel worthy of it. I sabotaged everything I've ever been in because I didn't feel worthy of it. And with her,

Starting point is 00:55:03 thank God I've opened up now and talked about this stuff because I've done the work where I could feel worthy. You know, when you have, here I go with the ADD, but when you have depression, anxiety, it makes you feel again, like for me, like you're not worthy of the sky's going to fall. And the pain of when the sky is going to fall, for me, is worse than the sky falling. So you speed it up and you sabotage everything that's good. And this is the first time in my life I'm not sabotaging something that's great because I've been able to open up and do this work.

Starting point is 00:55:39 And now I'm 54. It's never too late to find love. You just got to work your ass off. And you got to be relentless. I attack it as relentlessly as anything else but um yeah she has she's changed my life man she's incredible that's so good to hear and i'm really really happy for you and kind of you know you mentioned a lot about depression and stuff like that and that's also been a big part of our relationship and now i know you're doing it with players too. You know, you have your podcast Unbreakable. I mean,

Starting point is 00:56:08 literally the Sean McVay and Michael Phelps episode was unbelievable. You wrote the, you wrote a book, you have the Unbreakable book. So like, at what point did you know, Hey, I want to start talking to players, coaches in the NFL, or were you always just doing it? And you just figured like, I'm just going to try to make this as acceptable as possible because some people still struggle to let their anxiety and their stuff get out there. Well, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:31 they came for me to write a book and I didn't want to write an NFL insider book because I don't want to look over my shoulder with my secrets. But it really, like I started to open up

Starting point is 00:56:41 to players and fighters. Me and Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell, we always open up about this because no one's questioning your manhood. So you to open up to players and fighters. Me and Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell, we've always opened up about this because no one's questioned your manhood. So you can open up on the drop of a dime. I can cry. Jerry, you've seen me cry in a cage with these guys.

Starting point is 00:56:52 Like no one's questioned my manhood. But then when I started, you know, I started a charity a long time ago called MVP, and I was able to open up in front of these combat vets where I take combat vets in. And, Jerry, you were at the first session, I think. We put these combat vets and ex-athletes together, and it's really we work out for about a half hour, but then we start opening up about mental health stuff.

Starting point is 00:57:11 And opening up to those combat vets gave me the confidence that if I can open up to these cats and not be judged, then I could use that for the rest of the world. And it's interesting. I talk to teams now, and I tell them, look, I've gotten brought in to talk to NFL teams for years, but about violence, about the unbreakable way, the MMA mindset, the fighter mentality.

Starting point is 00:57:36 And again, I tell these guys, if I am hurt or tired, you will never, ever, ever know. My partner in all that, Randy Couture, got his arm broken in half in the heavyweight championship of the world by Gabriel Gonzaga. Never showed it. Never showed it. Right?

Starting point is 00:57:51 If they showed it, they're going to end the fight. He loses the title. You don't ever show it. We talked about Lane Johnson before. Lane played with two torn adductors. You'll never know. And you need that in football and fighting. But I tell teams it's the same mentality, especially us men,

Starting point is 00:58:07 off that field, outside that cage. It gets a lot of us to want to throw ourselves off a bridge, returns to drugs and alcohol, and I'm one of them. And, you know, for me, you know, I didn't open up. I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, you name it, I got it. And I just hit it with Vicodin and Adderall and alcohol for years because I'd rather have gotten in trouble going out and get arrested than admit that I have some issues.

Starting point is 00:58:37 And now that I'm able to admit it, all it's done is got me so much closer together with people. And I tell these guys, look, like mental health is so reactive nowadays. You don't just like catch passes when you have the drops or lifts when you're getting weak, you're always doing it. But mental health, you guys are only going to see a therapist after the sky's falling. And that's too late. You got to work on it constantly. You probably think, well, there's not enough therapists. You do. You got 90 therapists in this room with you right now. And it makes you so much closer when you're vulnerable

Starting point is 00:59:05 and you lean into each other. And for those players who say, well, I'm too embarrassed, the first time I ever came out with anything I did on social media, which is a cesspool, and social media is a big problem that we have. You don't have to have clinical like I do to go through because we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered second, highlights all day, like on Instagram and Facebook, how are you supposed to survive that? Or on Twitter, just get and talk to it, beat down, awful. And, you know, first time I did it,

Starting point is 00:59:36 it was on social media. I said, guys, this is the thing. I wrote a book. I know what's on those pages. I don't want to wait for the book to come out to be able to help people. And here's the truth. I have put a mask on all these years. I never asked for help. So here's my way of saying I want to help everybody else now and drop your comments if you understand what I'm talking about. And within two minutes, Mercedes Lewis, now in his 19th year, who I've trained for 15 years, first call. He said, Coach, man, I knew you were crazy. And that's a badge of honor in football and fighting,

Starting point is 01:00:07 but I didn't know you were in pain. I'm sorry. I got you. Like, does that sound like someone's shaming me? That dude checks up on me three times a week now, or Michael Strahan, my baby sister,

Starting point is 01:00:19 you know, my best friend ever. I didn't tell him until right around the book. And he's like, why have you never told me? I'm like, I don't make the rules up with this dude. I was, we're so competitive. I was ashamed. He goes, and this really hit me. He said, but you took away my chance to be your best friend for 30 years. Think about that. That's not shaming. That's like, man, I want to be there for you. So I tell these teams, if you could lean into each other like this, think how much closer this

Starting point is 01:00:43 will make you. Those are bonds. Those are brothers. That's your equity. That's what you got to start doing. And that's what I'm trying to lead the charge on now for all men and women, everybody. Just open up, man.

Starting point is 01:00:54 We deserve it. That's incredible. Honestly, Jay, I'm proud of you, man. Like I know we go way back, but proud of, you know, the advocate that you are for mental health and wellness. And then just obviously the role that you've played in a kind of probably like, like you're talking about the pain that you have, but you never let anybody show up, but the role that you played in Jerry and I were a part of that. We're a part of your journey. You were a part of our journey.

Starting point is 01:01:18 So here on throwbacks, man, like, honestly, thank you. Like we never really, you know, we, we, when we hang out, we have fun and all that, But, like, that was really, really inspiring. I actually got goosebumps listening to you. So I just want to say I appreciate you for having that part of my journey as well, man. And just being, you've always been a brother and a great friend to everybody, dude. So, and I'm glad you found happiness too, man, with Rosie. 54 years. Like, it's never too late.

Starting point is 01:01:42 Never. I just had a player ask me recently, like, man, please tell me there's light at the end of the tunnel. And he admitted to me that he attempted suicide. And I said, hey, dude, you open up to people about this, you may save someone's life. And that's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. But I'm 54. I never knew I was able, that I could ever feel this level of joy until now because I'm doing this work it's worth it it's worth it and I also realized man I had to go through this pain

Starting point is 01:02:10 so I could help others through theirs that gave me this equity this experience but at the same time I try to always know like man but God in the universe made all my other dreams come true to keep you afloat the whole time. And it's hard to see it when you're in it. Like, it's really difficult. But again, you guys have seen the real Jay Glaser. I've had meltdowns in front of y'all. And, you know, it wasn't always pretty, but it's been authentic. And it's like I said, for me to be able to.

Starting point is 01:02:44 I used to always think that I was cursed by the, now I feel like God blessed me with it. I don't get to see you as much anymore, but I always know you're a phone call or a text away and you know I am for you and sometimes that's all you need. I'm going to end with this. I think I know your answer. I know your answer, but I have to ask. Any tidbits for us going

Starting point is 01:03:20 into week three? I feel like I know what you're going to say. Week three? Week two yet? Week two. He's still hung up on his Giants just getting crushed. I feel like I know what you're going to say. Week two yet. Week two. He's still hung up on his Giants. I'm still destroyed by the fact that that was horrible. This is something I always would ask. I always try to get something out of him

Starting point is 01:03:38 while working out. Can we break it on the pod? Coach, I had a good workout today. Can you tell me something? No. Get away from it. Watch on Sunday. You'll find out.. No, no. Watch on Sunday. You'll find out. That's exactly right. We're all going to watch on Sunday.

Starting point is 01:03:49 Jerry's been in there, though. One time, oh, man, weren't you in there? I broke the story that Jimmy Graham was getting traded to Seattle. And the backup tight end from Seattle was in the gym. And I came in like, guys, I just broke this. And I didn't realize. I'm like, oh, what a. You broke it to the player in like, guys, I just broke this. And I didn't realize I'm like, Oh, you broke it to the, to the player. Yeah. Yeah. So your answer is watch on Sunday.

Starting point is 01:04:10 Watch on Sunday. All right. We love you, buddy. Honestly. Thank you so, so much. Uh, love to Rosie and we'll check in with you soon. We'll watch you on Sunday for what you're going to break. Absolutely. Thanks Jay. Love you guys. All right. Big thank you to my big bro, Jay Glazer. Always great hanging out with him. He's the best. He is the best, right? He is the best.

Starting point is 01:04:33 Something else that's the best. It's now time to get to our Wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the week. It's where we kind of feature a player right now that we think something on or off the field is just doing something amazing. So I have one. I know you do too. I'm going to lead off. Okay. I think I have the one of the week.

Starting point is 01:04:52 And you got a front row seat at Mr. Quinn Ewers this week. I did. Obviously a huge game. Texas gets to win. But what I really found special was after the game, he gets the big dap up from McConaughey. It went viral. He's up there whispering in his ears,

Starting point is 01:05:08 probably going, all right, all right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then he goes and takes an amazing picture with the young kid who the dad, not the Wendy's. Oh, dude, come on. Not the saucy moment of the week. Telling the kid to do horns down.

Starting point is 01:05:21 But Quinn kept it respectfully, kept his composure. He still, you know, had a good moment with the kid. He didn't even but Quinn kept it respectfully, kept his composure. He still, you know, had a good moment with the kid. He didn't even shoot the data dirty look, which I certainly would have did. And also Matt, this might be my quarterback. I'm scouting for the giants next year. So that's an easy one for me. So that that's your, okay. I thought you were going to go somewhere else with that. That's good. Quinn, you was a great kid. He's a great kid. He's got a chance. He's got a chance. Um, mine's better. I'm just going to say That's good. Quinn, you was a great kid. He's a great kid. He's got a chance. He's got a chance. Mine's better. I'm just going to say mine's better. And well, first of all, everybody that's watching, going to watch this on YouTube. Here's my, here's my, there she is.

Starting point is 01:05:54 You see her? Her name is Caitlin Clark. Okay. Here's my, my, my girl. Okay. The month of September, four games. She's averaging 26 points per game, 10.5 assists, almost seven rebounds in four games. Kaitlyn Clark is not just the rookie of the year. She will finish second. She should finish second in the MVP behind Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson is a dog. She's the best, okay?

Starting point is 01:06:22 Three and one in those four games. Just playoff squad. Okay. I'm a big fan of Caitlin Clark and this is why I'm where I'm getting at. And I know she's going to listen to this and she's going to respond and maybe we'll get her on the pod because two years ago we went to Iowa for football. Caitlin Clark and the girls, uh, came by the set. We hung out. She's awesome. Like became a fan there. We became tight, somewhat tight. That same weekend, we shot, okay? We had a three-point contest.

Starting point is 01:06:51 It's a true story. There were cameras. I'm still waiting to get the video of this. The first round. You versus her? You versus her? Listen to me real quick. This is true, and she will back this up.

Starting point is 01:07:00 The first round, it was me, Reggie, and Caitlin. I think we shot three from each, you know, each five spots. So 15 total. I think we got to shot five. She whooped us the first round. She whooped us the first round. Not surprised. And that was the one where, of course,

Starting point is 01:07:14 Fox was videotaping. Then I said, you know, I pride myself in a three-point shooter. I like to say that my game resembles Chris Mullen of the past. Can't jump, not super athletic, but don't leave me outside the arc. Is this a lefty thing too. Just a lefty thing. Yeah. Just a lefty thing. Okay. Stick together. So I go and she, and she talked like she's great. Right? So I go, I go,

Starting point is 01:07:35 I want to rematch. So they stopped filming. What a rematch. I'm pretty sure I shot, I made 18 of 25. I can shoot. Okay. I'm just, I can shoot. Okay, okay. Or maybe 17, but I went on fire, okay? And she was like, okay, okay, I see you. She gets to the last rack of five. I think she had to make four or five to tie me. So she was like 14 of 20 going into the last rack.

Starting point is 01:08:04 She tied me. Not yeah no she but she hit the last shot to tie she was sweating i was i was in her ear oh you think you had her on the ropes a little bit okay i had her on the ropes now the point of the story is i didn't win but i tied the greatest female woman shooter of all time in a three-point contest. And I want a rematch. I want a rematch. And I know, like, she's going to back me on this. She's going to come on the pod one day.

Starting point is 01:08:31 Okay? So, you know, shout-out to Kaitlyn Clark. Shout-out to Wendy's. I'm showing the sign. I pulled this from a box, by the way. I'm a card. I was about to say, is that a pull, or did she send that to you as a consolation prize for tying her in a three-point contest? Oh, gosh. Hold on to that. I tied the homie, Caitlin Clark, in a three-point contest. Claim

Starting point is 01:08:51 to fame. Book it. Your story is, you definitely won the week for sure. And that is our Can't Get Enough Sauce in a Moment week brought to you by Wendy's. Thank you for that. All right. Something that got a lot of traction from- I just got excited about that, by the way. Yeah. And I'm fired up right. Something that got a lot of traction. I just got excited about that, by the way. Yeah, and I'm fired up now because something that got a lot of traction in the first episode was you throwing that ridiculous bet to me about the Jets getting to the Super Bowl.

Starting point is 01:09:14 I have to wear a, first it's a 77. I got calls from back home. Not off to a great start, buddy. If this was like the mob, they'd be like, hey, we got calls from back home about your guy, Matt. What does he say? You can't wear a 76ers jersey.

Starting point is 01:09:25 Hearing you say all that, you seem pretty confident. We're getting to know each other. I know you weren't impressed with my boxing abilities. I don't know if Glazer swung you, but I'm pretty confident I could beat you handedly in a three-point contest. Mind you, you know nothing about me when

Starting point is 01:09:41 it comes to physical basketball ability. You know zero. So let's make a little bet, Mr. Weiner. Are you serious? I'm dead serious. You're dead serious. Let's figure out. We don't have to announce it today. This is coming from the guy who stopped playing pickup basketball because, what, he pulled a hammy or he got fouled too hard?

Starting point is 01:09:58 What happened? Why did you stop playing pickup? I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement. And by the way, I'm back. I'm ready to go. I stopped playing pickup because I'm a double hip replacement. And by the way, I'm back. I'm ready to go. I stopped playing pickup because I'm older and I'm even older than you and I don't want to pop my Achilles, which I saw three in like two months.

Starting point is 01:10:13 So that made me end my pickup basketball. But as far as shooting, I stay shooting. Dude, I'm going on. I'm going to find some clip of you shooting, dude. You want clips? I'll send you clips. Overtime made a highlight reel. Well, let's make a bet. I'm going to find some clip of you shooting, dude. I guarantee. Oh, you want clips? I'll send you clips. Yeah, send me clips. Overtime made a highlight reel.

Starting point is 01:10:27 Well, let's make a bet. I mean, I would say there's zero chance you beat me in a three-point contest. Zero. All right. Well, listen, if you're listening out there, get on the Throwback social media, at Throwback Show. By the way, why don't we let. Let's get some stakes because you went right for the juggler with like a 76ers,

Starting point is 01:10:42 Jetsters. I'm coming at you just as strong. Let's see what the guys want. We'll post this up and we'll start it. What is, you know, if I win, what does Jerry have to do? If Jerry wins, what do I have to do? I will fly

Starting point is 01:10:56 personally to LA even if it's for 24 hours and destroy you. We're going to film this too. When's the last jump shot you took? What's the last jump shot you took? Dude, I play horse like every day. I know you play beach volleyball a lot, and I get that. Shout out to the Bay Club here.

Starting point is 01:11:12 I play horse every time I go to the gym. I got to be honest. I'm like one of the best horse players of all time too. I'm a set shooter, dude. I'm a set shooter. I'm not scared of lefties. I'm going to show up like Woody Harrelson in White Man Can't Jump,

Starting point is 01:11:25 and I'm already in your head. Jerry, you're not in my head. I'll end this part of the show. I'm a professional athlete. Dude, you do not get in my head. There is nothing better. You think you'd be? Listen, we're ending this segment.

Starting point is 01:11:37 What are we talking about right now? Because I want a full week to think of the most savage bet, because what you did is unforgivable. You made a savage bet pretty easily in the first week of the most savage bet, because what you did is unforgivable. You made a savage bet pretty easily in the first week of the show. No, it's not. Look, the Jets are fine. They actually moved the ball a little bit.

Starting point is 01:11:53 The Niners are just better. That being said, you went for their juggler bet. We're going to talk to some people. I'm going to make this savage. It's to the point where you're going to hear it and go, that's a little scary. I don't know if I want to do that. The funny thing is, I'm going to make this savage. It's to the point where you're going to hear it and go, ooh. That's a little scary. I don't know if I want to do that. The funny thing is I'm not scared.

Starting point is 01:12:10 I'm going to send you highlights. Look for social media. You're going to see. Wait till I give you my overtime highlight reel. Something's going to be involved in a 76ers jersey. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Now we have people in our great chat

Starting point is 01:12:25 already saying that they could be... It's so easy. I may get you on WFAN wearing a 76ers jersey. Well, we'll talk more about next week, too, because something happened when I did co-host on WFAN where someone called in and called me out for a pickup game moment. But we don't have enough time for that

Starting point is 01:12:45 because also I remembered something. The parlor was the sports bar you and Josie went to where you had all the fans talking trash to you, right? Never, I'll never. Yeah, I'll never step foot in that place again. You know, I've been to that sports bar. That sports bar gets packed. It's a huge space.

Starting point is 01:13:02 I was like a sardine in there. Yeah, there's a sardine in there. Yeah, there's a lot of people in there, but it did also bring up really fast a memory for me that I could not... I just have to say it. I went on a date. I think we were at a restaurant, too, in West Hollywood.

Starting point is 01:13:18 Came out of the restaurant. I walked the young lady. It's not my wife. Don't worry. It's not my wife. I walked into her car and she took out her phone for something i don't know and she unlocked it and the first screen i wasn't looking she was holding it casually in front of me and i saw a screen popped up and it said uh her google hilarious her last google search was jerry ferrara net worth not a match oh dude that's a i think she was disappointed by the results,

Starting point is 01:13:47 and B, not great to show the two of them. She's like, gosh, Entourage didn't pay that well back in the day. Yeah, HBO must not really pay that well. All right. Are we wrapping up? We are wrapping up. I'm pretty into your travel schedule. Where are you heading this week? We'll be in Madison, Wisconsin.

Starting point is 01:14:04 Ooh. One of my all-time favorite places. Haven't gone in a couple years. We got Bama traveling to Wisconsin. Might be a good game. Might not be a good game. I don't know. The spread's pretty big, but it's rad, dude. Jump around.

Starting point is 01:14:20 Plays at the fourth quarter. Jump around is their thing, right? It's their thing. I've done jump around. Have you? I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to selfie-style video that thing, I think. I'm going to try and do that.

Starting point is 01:14:30 It's a lot of fun. I went years ago, back when Russell Wilson was still on Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Nebraska. Did jump around. And then went to this place. They're like, I guess it's like the college bar.

Starting point is 01:14:41 The KK? Or the KK Club? Something like that? Oh, yeah. I've heard about that. Listen, I'm staying until Sunday, Madison. People from Madison, I'm going to the KK bar Saturday night. Are you for real?

Starting point is 01:14:57 I'm going. I got the wife in town. I got friends in town. I'm going to be one with the college students. I don't know. It might not end well for me. I might step in, might step out, but I'm going to be one with the college students. I don't know. It might not end well for me. I might step in, might step out, but I'm going to go. So y'all listeners from Madison,

Starting point is 01:15:10 you could see me at the KK Bar. I heard it's the place to be. I'm over 40. I get it. I'm going to watch a little college football at night, have a couple drinks, celebrate, being on the road with my friends, my wife. Yeah, what could go wrong?

Starting point is 01:15:24 Let me ask you. I've only been to like two campuses in my life. Obviously SC is like fantastic, but you've been to enough college campuses now. Was there ever that moment where you looked at a campus and went, this looks like a fun place to play football. I'm happy with where I went, but I could second have seen myself here for a couple years. You know what's so interesting is like we, like USC is not, it's not a college town, right? It's just not a college campus town vibe. I think USC is a beautiful campus in a not so great area, but it's not like a, it's not like a, I've been to all these college towns. It's just not. It's not Madison. It's not Iowa City. It's not like, it's just not these places.

Starting point is 01:16:11 It's not State College or Happy Valley, Penn State. It's just not these places. And now, granted, when I was there, it was pretty awesome because we were basically Hollywood. We were just running it. But it wasn't like you're running the show like, oh, this is a college town, like whatever. When I go to these places, I sometimes am like, I never like, oh, this is a college town, like whatever. When I go to these places, I sometimes I'm like, I don't I never I never like, oh, I wish I went there. But

Starting point is 01:16:30 I was like, it would have been cool to experience a small town college town feel that I've never experienced. So that's why I enjoy going to these places. That's why like I went to a TCU bar last year with my wife and friends, because I'm like, let's go to old stockyards in Fort Worth. And you experience it like, you know, I'm older. I get it. But it's fun. Like I didn't get to have that in college. Now I had a much different experience that I would never take back. But that's kind of the vibe of these places, man. So I always enjoy going to these cool towns. Dan Patrick hit us with that awesome question. We were on Dan Patrick's show last Friday and he said the question of the day was better to be in LA as the starting USC quarterback or starring on an HBO show. I think I even sided with you on that one. I think, I think

Starting point is 01:17:15 you win. I think it's hard. I'll tell you what, you're not going to win. You're not going to win the three point contest. Oh my God. I can't believe that we're actually going to do that. I need your help. If you're listening on social media and you can follow us again at Throwback Show. Send me some suggestions on the most savage bet I could make Mr. Liner pay. Good show today, buddy.

Starting point is 01:17:36 Dude, awesome. You have fun and be safe. We're back. We're back. Throwbacks are back. Throwbacks are back. Take care, everybody. Peace.

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