Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Rivalries renewed, the return of the running back and Brady Quinn joins the show!

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

It’s rivalry week in college football so fittingly, Matt’s former enemy (and now close friend), Brady Quinn, joins the show! Brady tries coaxing Matt into a USC-Notre Dame bet while also revealing the coin-toss trash talk that took place between the two prior to their legendary “Bush Push” game.   Plus: Jerry takes us through his epic weekend at the Las Vegas Grand Prix and wonders if a running back may finally be able to bump quarterbacks off the NFL MVP pedestal. All that and a rivalry-related Throwback 3 as well!  New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (https://link.chtbl.com/throwbacks)   A big thank you to our sponsors:   Throwbacks is presented by Cash App  That's Money. That's Cash App   https://cash.app/bank    Wendy’s   Try Wendy's New Saucy Nuggs Today   https://wendys.com/nuggs    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

But look, USC was ahead of its time. You know, they had NIL before NIL was legalized and that was beneficial, I think. Oh, shut up. Shut up. All right, all right. Another episode of Throwbacks presented by Cash App. Sending, spending, saving, splitting, tipping, donating, gifting, or just typing in numbers, all with the number one finance app in the App Store. That's money. That's Cash App. You know who else is money? My co-host, Matt Liner, is money. What's up, buddy? How you doing?

Did you start an all right, all right, all right, like Matthew? I went to all rights. I think if you do the third, then you're treading on McConaughey's. I haven't seen you this happy and excited in a long time. Is it because you celebrated a birthday? Yes. Is it because you got reunited with your boys last week?

I mean, what is going on, dude? I'm coming off a big week. And- You are. We have a great show for you today. I am overly caffeinated, but you know, we had LA week last week with throwbacks. I was out there.

We did a lot of great interviews. We shot our, you know, we shot our basketball stuff, but here's where I stand with the birthday stuff of why I'm so hyped up. It's not cause I got a cool present or cause anything. I just felt the love. I felt the love. The social team made a great birthday video

of me having the cake out in LA. You know, my kids, basically my 45th birthday, it was their birthday. Like we just did whatever they wanted. You got to glow today. You got to glow today. And look, I think it's awesome when you get older as birthdays and what are you, 45?

I'm 45, my Michael Jordan comeback year. And by the way, the biggest comeback year you're you're gonna have It is something about as you get older not to get all sappy here But like you just appreciate, you know, you appreciate family you appreciate friends You appreciate, you know where you are in life and obviously just like new things and all that kind of stuff. So It's awesome, man. It's just good to see. It's just good to see. It's good to see you happy. Yeah. And there is a last week, you know, you had like, we're not going to get into it, but you know, you

had some down moments last week in obviously no way with me. I mean, we'll get it. We'll get into that a little bit later. Some physical moments we start realizing. Yeah. Let's just say I saw a video of me running and I was like, who's that old ass man running right now? And it was me. That's what who's that old ass man running right now? And it was me. That's what happens, man. That's why I never run. The gate is destroyed.

Oh, the gate. Well, I don't know if the gate was ever there. I never had a gate. I had a gate, buddy. Yeah, I mean, I had a gate. I used to. Dude, I also, it's so funny, dude, because I watched the Entourage movie this past weekend.

I was just going down the rabbit hole. I'm like, you know what? Meeting the guys, I'm going to watch the movie on the plane. I'm freaking in a four hour. And that was your comeback. That's when you lost all the weight. One of the scenes was when Piven was like, Ari was like, whatever, when you guys were pitching the movie or when he needed more funding in the movie,

it was a shot to you losing all this weight. And I was like, that's my guy. So it's funny how the jokes change and teaser for all of you out there, we did a great episode with Kevin Dillon and Kevin Connelly and that one is coming soon, we're just putting a bow on it and that one's coming and that one's gonna be a good one.

But it's funny. And you could ask Doug Allen this with the Entourage movie. I got into really, really good shape. I used to get a lot of fat jokes for seven years on the show. Then season eight, I got in good shape. And Doug was mad. Because now I have to write a whole new, I have to figure out new like skinny jokes now.

Let's just say you didn't miss craft services. I mean, you didn't miss craft services on a day to day. No. Connelly used to be the one to talk me off the ledge when I was having weak moments and I'd go over to Crafty and there'd be like crispy cream doughnuts and he'd just, Jerry, don't do it. He'd just run over the back.

Crafty's dangerous, dude. Crafty's dangerous. Oh, it's so bad. Well, plus you're there all day. You're shooting, you're like, shit, man, I'm hungry. Well, that was fun though, man. Well, happy birthday, dude. You got, what'd you

do? I mean, just celebrate with the boys and yeah. You know, I'm married to a birth worker. My wife is a doula. So she, unfortunately, fortunately and unfortunately got called into a birth. So I ended up solo dadding a little bit yesterday, but it was great because I didn't see the boys because it's a little selfish by Bree, but we'll let it pass. No, I thought it was cool. Another kid was born on my birthday. Oh, yeah. So there's a, there's a spirit there, but also I'm coming off of Vegas, Matt. I'm coming off of Vegas. So I, you know, we did, we did the episode with Connelly and Dylan.

And then a couple of weeks back I was in LA because we shot a great, a great commercial for Visa Cash app. Shout out to get a sponsor, but also we kind of recaptured a little bit of that entourage vibe. I thought it came out really, really well. And then part of the arrangement was then we go to the F1 races. Now I enjoy F1.

I love Drive to Survive on Netflix. You should cue that up on what will be, I guess your last trip to Columbus, Ohio. Yes. But you know, I can't say I'm a huge F1 nut at this point. At Visa Cash, VCarb is a great, fun team, and they revealed the livery, which I learned is the color and the wrap and the paint.

So part of it was we go to Vegas. So we go. And Matt, it had vibes of Coachella. And I'd say it's Coachella meets a little tech meets Kentucky Derby. One real quick. When was the last time you've been to Coachella? Because I went to Coachella last year. I went to the... You went last year? Dude, I went to the after the neon carnival party.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's a big... I'm literally picturing F1 and all the videos that I'm seeing online. And I'm picturing the neon carnival. And it is... I mean, you neon carnival, you got people dressed up in all weird sorts of shit. Well, it got off to a great start because I get to my hotel room and I open up all the curtains. And the track is right in the middle of Vegas. It's not off in the middle of the desert or a few miles.

It's on the strip. So I open my window and I see the track and I see... It felt like filming the... Who's who, right? They were filming the Brad Pitt movie the night before the race. So until three in the morning there's race cars going around and around the track. So you get there and this is what I mean, the access. Now I know people will say, well, you went there with,

you know, V-Car, so you had amazing access. There was more people in the garages than I thought in like the general population area. We get to the garage, you walk right by the car. There's one rule when you're in the garage in the pit crew. There's this hub of computers and screens. You cannot take any video pictures, anything, because I think that's all the trade secrets.

That's that team's strategy. That would be like in football, getting the team's first 15 scripted plays. It's just the big no-no. Anything else though, Matt, you could do. The drivers are just walking around. So like, I feel like with F1, maybe their pitch and their play is what you're talking about.

It's like, let's make this a spectacle. The access guys are going to, it's quick, but it's also like, it's a show. It's like, it's a show. Like you said, you're a movie, you're in a party. And I feel like that's kind of the angle they're pushing, it feels like, is what you're saying. Well, wait till you hear this next part. So we go into the garage, me, Kevin Dillon, Travis Bennett, we meet the drivers, and then you just start watching the pit crew practice. They practice the tire change. I have a great video of it and they're timing it. And if

it's off, they start again. It's like they're warming up. So that all happens. Then we take a quick break. We go over to the Red Bull reach energy station, which that's the party. That's just a place to watch. People are Red Bull, Vacas are flowing. So then we go back out to the grid, which is where they start.

And they let all these people on. This is moments before the race. There's 500 people walking the racetrack. And I'm walking, I start noticing, oh my, this is the before the race. There's 500 people walking the racetrack. And I'm walking, I start noticing, I'm like, this is the celebrity row. It's Dylan reconnected with Axl Rose, they were buddies from back in the day. Cedric the entertainer, I bumped at my star moment.

I bumped into Rory McIlroy, and he actually looked at me and opened up for a hug. So I gave a big hug to Rory McElroy. It just was an insane night. Isn't that a great feeling when you're like, you're like, oh, he recognized me. Oh, for sure. And I know many of you might listen,

be like, oh yeah, that's a real nice version. That's not what everyone could do. I'm telling you, you could get the access. It's not, you know, like in Coachella, the VIP area becomes more populated than general population, like artist passes. I think that's what they have here. It's not unachievable.

I'm not pitching you courtside at the Knicks game, which is 10. It's probably pretty expensive. Yes and no. I think they make it as accessible as they can because they wanna grow the sport. And from all I heard, we'll wrap this up and move on. Vegas was fun, Miami is fun.

I heard Austin is the one. If you're going to pick one to have a good time. That's how I mean, it sounds like Austin. We'll go with Cash App next time, dude. I'm in. I want to bet on all this. You can fire me in the back. I know nothing about F1, dude.

Nothing. I think you would get into it. Oh yeah, dude. Are you kidding me? Last thing though. What a weekend you had. You know, I try to figure out, obviously I was never gonna be a football,

basketball, baseball player, I never played golf as a kid. If I can go back and do it over again, I am the size of the prototypical driver. You don't wanna be 6'5", Matt Liner, too big, you can't fit in the car. You wanna be wrapped up in a little box like me. I could have been a driver because I have the profile.

Jerry, let's be honest, dude. You would have been a horse jockey. Come on. I think I'm slightly bigger than a horse jockey. I think they're not in my weight class. We can move on. You would have been a horse jockey. It's okay.

I can't, all right. Moving on. What a weekend, dude. Going into, I mean, happy birthday, bro. What can't. All right. Moving on. What a weekend, dude. Going into, I mean, happy birthday, bro. What a great weekend you had. Well, the other thing I realized too, between doing the commercial and having Connelly and Dylan on the pod

and then going to Vegas with Dylan for the weekend, Dylan still got the fastball. Let me, real quick, how, I mean, getting a chance to be around him and you can just see, I mean, you told me like, be prepared. This guy's just, he is who he is, he's amazing. He's elite. He's very one of a kind for sure.

And I walked away being like, he was as cool and as awesome as I would hope he was gonna be. You know, obviously, because you just, you put in with the character and just whatever. How was it with him this past weekend? It's been incredible. I, for years, have almost been the straight man to him, setting him up. I try to think of it like a great point guard and I have this triple threat all NBA player.

And my job is to just get him the ball in the spots he likes. And one thing I know is I know where Dylan likes to score. So I now for three weeks between the shoot, the pod, and going to Vegas, that's why I also started thinking of the reboot. Like I guess it could happen because this fucking guy, as far as Johnny, he still has the fastball.

I mean, he looks great. He's in shape. He's still got it. When he takes off the glasses and that V-Carb commercial goes, we got to get to Vegas, bro. The whole crew, I don't even know if they knew Entourage or not, was just erupting in laughter. So it's iconic, man. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then,

and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, statues were wrapped up just in case there's any vandalism, although you can't vandalize anything in today's day. There's cameras everywhere. But I'll still try. And our throwback three is going to be top three sports team rivalry, not athlete team rivalry. And I feel like we also have one of your former rivals coming on the show today. We have Brady Quinn, who's now your boy, your contemporary, but you guys definitely bumped heads.

I mean, we still, we still bump heads. We still bump heads all the time. Um, my, my, so the USC's bigger rivalry is not UCLA. It's, it's Notre Dame. Notre Dame for sure. Right? One because it's been, and this is in disrespect to UCLA, honestly, like that is just, it's been bigger. It's just a bigger national rivalry and there's been more at stake when those two play over the course of history. USC, UCLA is sort of the city of LA rivalry.

There's beef there and it's fun, but for me, when I was playing, it was Notre Dame. And I still can't stand Notre Dame. And I'll tell Brady that here in a little bit. Will he talk shit back to you in this interview coming up? I'll even know. Brady, Brady, I love Brady, but this dude loves Notre Dame like you used to love craft services, dude.

Like he, it's just Notre Dame. Notre Dame people are a little, you know, they're a little uppity. They're a little, uh, little our shit don't stake. I was all that being said, Brady knows this. Um, we battled three years in a row. He's got so many fun stories of that time. Um, Brady was great. I mean, probably the best Notre Dame quarterback of all time outside.

I mean, Joe Montana was there obviously, but when you look at like collegiate and stats and like what he did, I mean, he's, I think he's there. He's their all time passer, but he's awesome, man. I'm excited to talk to him. Definitely gonna stir the pot. Similarly how I tried to with you and Warner. Yeah, well, no, you, by the way,

you're not even gonna have to stir the pot. The minute he gets on, we'll just start talking shit. But we're gonna ask him about this. Secretly, one of the greatest athletic families. Brady Quinn? Brady Quinn. A lot of in-laws, a lot of professional athletes in that family.

Oh, like sisters married athletes? Crazy. People don't really know. But it's like, all of a sudden, people really don't know, but it's like all of a sudden you're like, wait, your sister's married to who? Wait, so they have an athlete factory cut their Thanksgiving table must be nuts. Oh yeah. Anyways, Brady's going to be awesome. All right.

Well, Brady will be great. And a couple of things I wanted to touch on, on the NFL as we head into Thanksgiving football. And I I've gotten a little bit of trouble for tweeting. Maybe we should just consider rotating and flexing like the Cowboys Giants game or stuff like that. And I said it about Lions fans and it was inappropriate. I finally, I, for the first time I walked back a take cause I said that and all the Lions fans like we're finally good.

We take the Thanksgiving game seriously. Now you're saying we should take it away. I apologize. Sorry. You just say things and you don't really. You say you say things by a true just spoken like fan who's sitting in a question like a yeah, it's just a question. I am but that's one of the takes I think is just it's not one of your best takes. It wasn't even a take. It was just it was in a slight opinion. But I will say Lions fans jumped me in the alleyway and they turned me though They made good points and I'm excited to watch them. I think they're gonna destroy Anyone they play at this point to God by the way to I

if if Detroit wins out and gets the number one seed with the Super Bowl also being in New Orleans, in a dome. I looked at the rest of their schedule. There is a chance that Goffel have only played three outdoor games the whole year. Isn't that crazy? And all teams now starting to look into domes. You heard it about Cleveland. You heard it about Buffalo.

Are we heading toward dome football, which, I don't know, you watched that snow globe game. I know everybody covered it J and I think Jamis really was bigger than the snow. The snow was great to watch, but he turned that into it. I just watched. I watched this week a 13 minute NFL mic'd up Jamis Winston on the Cleveland Browns Instagram handle because they basically said, here's Jamis Winston mic'd up for 13 minutes because it's gold or whatever they have. And I was like, I literally watched all 13 minutes of it and I was pissing my pants laughing.

He's the number one. If we're doing a, who do you want mic'd up draft? He's first overall. He's the best character in, you could, you could argue. I don't even thought about it. He might be the best character in all of professional sports. I'm going to look right down the barrel of the camera. Jamus Cleveland Browns, coach, the Fansky, who I've gotten a chance to meet. My number one thing with this pod is I really want to sit down

with Jamus for 30 minutes. We'll wait till after the season. I get it. Jamus, if anyone associated with the Browns is watching, we would love to just hang and discuss life with you. Come on the show. Throwbacks is a safe place. Famous Jameis, I want him on the pod. The best, I'm telling you,

the best character in all of professional sports. Book it. Name me one who's more just, that's the personality that he does. You played in warm places. Did you ever have a snow game like that of memory or not really? Dude, I played in a Blizzard game at New England,

oh, eight, I think it was the, oh, it was the year Brady tore his knee because Matt Castle started. Oh, get to the Chiefs, yeah. And we're playing there in November. I think so actually we had it was a year we went to the Superbowl and almost one. We got our ass kicked. I believe on Thanksgiving night by the by the Eagles and McNabb and then either the week before two weeks before we basically limped into the playoffs eight

and eight. We went up to New England. It was a blizzard game. It was, it was when they had Moss and Welker and all that. And Welker, Welker was doing snow angels after he scored. And I remember going there and you know, we're in Arizona and we go there and half our team is like never seen snow, never seen snow and they're from Florida or Texas or South. They just never, yeah. Young kids never been in the snow. And obviously snow games in the NFL happened this time of year

and you'll get them in the playoff, depending who's in it, right? There's, you know, you can count on probably one to two hands snow games during the NFL season. And I remember Matt, having Kurt or a coach and the minute everyone was like dancing in the snow we were like, we're going to get our fucking December 21st, 2008. So yeah, I mean, dude, like end of the year, basically we got smoked.

I threw actually played. I was backing up Kurt. I got in, I threw, I threw a threw a threw a touchdown to Larry down the sideline Which was pretty cool. But yeah real so yeah, that was your only points 47-7 that was your only points What's what isn't Kevin Hart got a show called cold as balls? Yes. Let me tell you something It was cold as balls on the sideline. So I You got guys who didn't see snow, but I...

And I know Jameis' excitement and enthusiasm was amazing for snow. That was his first ever playing in a snow game. But I just wonder if you're playing in the Northeast where it snows quite often, if you're in Buffalo or New England or New York, and you're just like, oh yeah, it's a snow game. Love it. I feel like if I were a player, I'd be like, ah, here we cause it's a whole, it becomes a different game.

Listen, I think we'd rather, I think you'd rather have snow than rain. Snow's better than rain. I get that. You'd rather have snow than wind. Wind, wind as a core, it's bad. Wind. That's why windy cities, Chicago, like even Buffalo, Buffalo's got a lot of wind. That's why it's like the whole can your quarterback throw through the wind? I mean, that's a real thing when you're in there, dude, like Chicago and all that, like you start to get that wind in that wind tunnel. You're like, I mean, it's 20 mile an hour wins on game day. And it's like, where did this come from? So weather games are always an advantage for offense

because you know, like, you at least know where you want to try to go. Well, that's what we always said as an offense, when you go to like, Hey, the D we know where we're, we're, we're trying to go. The D like, like obviously your footwear and the slippery and all that kind of stuff. So you always, you have a really big advantage as an offense in weather games.

Now rain and all that where you're slipping and slided. That's like, I mean... All bets are kind of off. It's just, yeah, I mean, you got to get lucky. But snow games, snow games are fun. I mean, I wouldn't say it's what we look forward to that. No, I'm trying to think of the acting equivalent. The only thing I could say with acting is, at least in my career, so often I'm playing opposite of what the season is. I remember doing a movie, we were supposed to be dead

in summer and it was November. We're out there in t-shirts and shorts and it was 38 degrees. I remember when we did the Sundance episode, there's a shot of us getting off the plane and pullovers and skull caps and all that. And we shot that at Ontario airport in LA, it was 94 degrees. And we were coming off the plane, like we just are about to go skiing.

So yeah, man, well, Jameis sold it for sure. It was 94 degrees and we were coming off the plane like we just are about to go skiing. So Yeah, man. Well, jamis sold it for sure. Look the nfl is bananas right now I gotta give a shout out to united because when I went to la to do all our throwback stuff I got all my bets in here in cleveland because I live in a bet state Shout out to united for really figuring out plane wi-fi Because I got on that plane at one o'clock. All the bets were in already. We got to 10,000 feet.

They turned the wifi on. I ordered a drink. I got out my laptop. I basically started my row and the row behind me, I started a sports bar. I had the game on. Everyone had the games on. I had my bets going.

I don't know, I give a shout out for the wifi. You could not be a United fan. Everyone has their own airline. We're all very territorial. I'm not saying anything. The wifi is on point. It didn't flicker. I was at 1080p and it didn't flicker for four hours.

That's just for our own internal humor. Is there anything better? So you got that. I get that on Saturday afternoon when I fly home, like this weekend, I'll be in Ohio for Ohio State, Michigan. And I get a long, I'm connecting through Atlanta, so I get that four and a half hour flight,

which by the way is miserable at 10 o'clock at night. But I just get there, I'm a couple red wines deep. The group chat is flowing and just talking shit. And then I get to watch college football. So like, I don't fly on Sundays, but I get to fly on Saturdays. I have my little, you know, whatever wifi I have it on the monitor if there's a TV.

And then I have my YouTube TV on the app where I'm watching, you know, like NFL red zone. I'm watching four games at a time. It's glorious. Sitting by yourself, drinking, watching football with your AirPods in, talking shit to your friends is like... Well, you have to be a red zone guy

because you don't have a NFL fandom, right? I really don't. You don't because you grew up in SoCal. I went to Monday Night Football this week. Oh, you went to the Chargers? That was a fun game. It was great. I was, I was, and I got asked that question when I was there.

We were in a box, we were hosted by some cool people and we just had a blast, took the oldest call and I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, this is my third NFL game I've ever been to sitting as a sitting in the stands watching three. I retired. I can name all three Superbowl 2007 when the giants beat Brady in Arizona, Arizona hosting there. So I was there. Ram's Cardinals playoff game maybe two years ago, maybe three years ago, Ram Super Bowl run. I was at that game and then this game this week and I would just say this, I'm not like a, I probably would lean Ram. I don't know. I'm not, I'm like, I appreciate both. They're in there in our town, you know, whatever. I just walked away just more of a Lamar Jackson

fan than I already was. That was your takeaway. It's just, I just, I know him fairly well from from college days from Heisman stuff. He trains in the off season with the, with the same quarterback coach that Cole used to train. Like I just crossed paths with him and he is the best dude. He's awesome. He's just a great dude, a great kid. Just like kind of what you would expect. Like never has a bad word about anybody. He's just, I walked away thinking like, man,

Lamar Jackson's just fun to watch, man. Like he's just a rare, it gets that simple. He's a rare athlete. You know, we, you and I kind of had like Michael Vick, right? Like when I was playing, Vick was like first, like real, like, like a video game, run, pass, jump, everything. Lamar is a video game out there, man. And he's just doing it at the highest level against the best athletes in the world. And I was like, dude, like he's fun. And it's Cole's

favorite player. I'm just like, he was, he's worth, he's like, he's worth the ticket to go see, you know what I mean? Like just like, he's worth the ticket to go see. You know what I mean? Like he's fun to watch. Box office. So you bring up, that's a good segue into the last thing I wanted to go to before we get to Brady.

You know, he's the front, Lamar is the front runner, I believe at this moment, for MVP, I haven't checked the odds in a little bit. He was or still is. And he probably will win it if he stays on this pace and the Ravens continue to win and he will will win it if he stays on this pace and the Ravens continue to win and he will probably deserve it. I think it'll be his third. However, I think this is the first time I know we've maybe sometimes at game five or like, Oh,

TJ watch should be league MVP or this running back or this receiver. And it goes away and it flares out because they can't hold up the output to do with an MVP, you know, to compete with a quarterback for MVP. This is the first real time. I think there's two running backs and we're probably not going to win, but I think this is the closest we've come since the last non quarterback MVP. And I'm going to give you a little trivia before we move on to Brady. But this week we got Raven's Eagles.

Saquon's been obviously unbelievable. If I have to have one more purse, I think even Kevin Hart was texting me, thank you for Saquon, giants are fucking idiots. And Derrick Henry for sure, I mean 15 TDs and he's probably gonna finish 20 plus. And you could make the argument, definitely with Saquon, you could make the argument that with Saquon you could make the argument that

one of those two guys deserves real contention and they're playing each other this weekend. So if it becomes we always get quarterback duels there's always the oh my Holmes versus Josh Allen this is going to decide. I feel like this Saquon Derrick Henry game could at least really advance the conversation to seriously consider a non-quarterback MVP. Your thoughts. I'm looking up. I agree.

I'm looking up, say, 1400 yards rushing already. It's 11 games in 12. I mean, he's going to break 2000. I think he should be in the, I think he should be maybe number one. Like, I don't understand. Like this shouldn't be just, it's like the Heisman Trophy, right?

The Heisman Trophy has always been typically a quarterback award. This year it's gonna change, I think. But it's like, this dude is having a year that we haven't seen in a long time. And Philly might win the Super Bowl. I mean, that's how hot they are. So, and then, and then Derek Henry, I love this.

I love more of the story of Derek Henry just leaving Tennessee, the whole running back narrative of like, you're too old. Don't pay him and don't pay it. Don't pay these guys. And you can see you put you get into a fit, a perfect scheme and a fit. And all of a sudden it's like, this dude is like, I mean, he's, he's unbelievable, man. He's freaking Hercules back there. I get, you know, I love getting texts from Eagles fans. Thanks for Saquon, Giants or Idiots.

There's no way Saquon Barkley's doing 40% of this on the Giants. And similarly, maybe Derek Henry has eight touchdowns on the Titans because he's still a monster. He doesn't have 15. So there's something to be said as well about, all right, Derek Henry with Lamar Jackson is wild and then Saquon next to Jalen Hurts and that O line and AJ Brown It's pretty pretty nuts Josh Allen still is the MVP favorite of plus 150 Lamar's plus 250 But Saquon has cracked the top three plus 475 and that's an interesting bet

And I Derek Henry's not in the top eight or nine Can you name there's been eight non-quarterback MVPs since 1990. Can you even name one? I mean, just, I know it's not an easy exercise. I have them right here, so I'll rattle them off. I don't know if you'd be surprised. Ready? Yeah. Let me see if I can name one. Try. I would say the Randy Moss or Calvin Johnson. Incorrect. You got to think you really have to think running back. It's all running back. Adrian Peterson.

Correct. LaDani and Tomlinson. Correct. Um, the Derek Henry, Chris Johnson. No, but great 2000 yard seas. I'll give you a hint. Uh, Kurt Warner's favorite. I was about to say Marshall Falk.

Marshall Falk. Yeah. Marshall Falk, LT, AP you got. Sean Alexander. That's the one I couldn't figure. I totally forgot. I think it was 2005. Yeah, like 27 touchdowns. Yeah, ridiculous amount of touchdowns. I remember the Giants broke the the false start record back in Seattle. Thurman Thomas, going back to the Bills. Emmett Smith, of course, with the Cowboys.

And another sneaky one that was hard to remember. Ricky Waters? No, Tarell Davis. Tarell Davis, and then the last one, Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders. It's good for the RBs, baby. Good for the RBs. I'm getting a little sip from my Wendy's cup

because you know that means we're about to do our Wendy's. Can't get enough sauce moment of the week. I don't even know if this is a moment. This is a lifestyle. We're gonna maybe separate. Dude, for everybody that can't see right now, I'm just stretching like I've been stretching all week. Why are you stretching like that, Matt?

Dude, my sauce moment of the week has been just absolute. Just, just a beaut. It's just been a beautiful week. I've been home alone all week. So I want to shout out the wife, the kids, they're in Miami Thanksgiving. They do this every week, every year I travel. Right? So like, I can't, I actually surprised him last year, but, um, I have been, I've got home Saturday night, long flight, long day, big show, you know, just a lot. Saturday's a lot. You just like, I don't sleep when I'm on the East coast, all this stuff. And I get home, my dogs aren't here. Even the dogs are out of the house. You don't even have to walk the dog. I love my dogs, but sometimes they're the worst. They're harder than the kids.

Jeez, dude, stop barking. I get home at like 11.30 and I'm just like, I had a smile on my face and all those guys out there, all those husbands, all those boyfriends, all those guys, they know the feeling of going home to an empty house. All those dads out there. And that's been my week, dude. And I'm not trying, listen, I'm not trying to gloat.

I'm not trying to, you know, rub it in anyone's face. It's just, it's sometimes when you wake up and you got nothing to do, then, hey, I'm gonna do the pod with my boy, Jerry. You know, I'm gonna do some notes for the show. I'm gonna go play hoops with the oldest. I'm gonna go play some hoops. I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go to Monday Night Football like what a fucking week, dude What a week and so it's so much different than being away. You're away all the time, right? So it's not so much even when I was just in LA. It's not that it's being in your own home

With your own stuff now this we love our kids and our wives. It's not saying. By the way, let me actually say this before, before I get divorced. I love my, I love my wife. Do the disclaimer thing. I'm a disclaimer guy. Yeah. I FaceTime multiple, I miss my boys. I miss them all. I wish they were here. I do, but it is, it is like, it is nice when you're just like, you can just starfish in the middle of your bed, right? You can just, you can, you can sleep naked if you want. Maybe you already do. I don't care.

I'm just saying you can do walk around the house doing like, it's just lovely, dude. I actually, I was like, I was thinking about this. I'm like, and this could be for everybody that's listening and we'll throw this up on social, but like what, like what's the number one thing you're gonna do when you know you're waking up to an empty house? You might go home. You're home alone.

You're just like, honestly, it's like the fact that there's nothing to do is what's the best about it. You know what I mean? You texted me this, I thought long and hard because I've only experienced this thing you speak of once. My wife and kids went to Florida. I had to work. So Brie took the kids with her went to Florida. I had to work. So, Brie took the

kids with her dad to Florida and I was home. And I started thinking now, okay, and I'd be like you, I'd miss my kids, but what are the things I'd most want to do? And I think I figured it out because it's just something I don't get to do ever anymore. I would order some Wendy's. Shout out. I definitely get some saucy nugs. I'd go in my little basement cave and I would play video games on one screen while having whatever sports are on the other screen, whether it's Knicks, football, and have that going. And I would just sit there with Wendy's saucy nugs,

video games, and sports, and I would go all night. I'd do an all nighter. I used to do the all nighter thing. I'm a night owl. I like to stay the all nighter thing. I'm a night owl. I like to stay up. As a parent, you can't, cause you don't know what's coming in the morning. So that's what I would do.

I would be in the basement, saucy nugs, video games, sports, and I just wouldn't even look at the clock. I wouldn't even say I need to go to bed. That's the thing. It's like, dude, I'm like, I might work out twice today. I don't know. Or maybe I won't work out at all. Or maybe I won't work out at all.

Or maybe I won't work out at all. I'm going to, by the way, I'm going to door dash four times a day. Why not? Who gives a shit? Right? I'll door dash. Door dash is your friend. I'm not going out to get it. I'll door dash Wendy's. I'll door dash whatever. I don't care. Shout outs Wendy's. Thank you. I mean, we're just taking a break now because we've got Brady coming in, but I, it's going to be hard for me to shake the thought of playing video games and eating

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I just gotta go back. Can we go back for a minute? You guys have met on the field quite often and now you're boys, but take me back in time for a second. You know you got liner coming in or you're going there. What's the feelings like? So my true freshman year, because I started playing right away, I really didn't fully

understand the magnitude of the Notre Dame Southern Cal rivalry. And there's a ton of history behind it. You'll probably hear about it all this week. But I grew up in the Midwest. The schools I was looking at were Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame. And when it came down time to make my decision, it was kind of tight between Notre Dame and Michigan. So when I picked Notre Dame, I don't know something about the matchup versus Michigan who we played every year at that time that like stood out to me, like something to prove.

And a lot of the guys that we're looking at either of the, one of those two schools, you know, you were very familiar with them from your recruiting visits and the kind of keeping in touch, playing against each other if they're from the state of Ohio, etc. So I, I was really like, like that was the matchup that I would always kind of look at was like, man, this is like everything. Although, after my freshman year, like I started to understand I should really say not even after like before the game. I'll never forget man man. Joe Montana, who was like an idol, right? Like I grew up, I loved the Cleveland Browns, but I family in Northern California. And so they would send me some

49ers gear and I loved Jerry Rice. My first year played football, played receiver. So I loved Jerry. And obviously I grew to love Joe Montana as his quarterback. So, you know, I grew up watching Joe have success and I translated kind of the Tom Brady that like

that next goat. And I just I remember like being down on the field or a walk through before the game and I see Joe's kids I think might have been Nate they were throwing the football around and so I was like hey here he throws it to me I go to throw and Joe almost like slaps my arm down as I'm like going to go back I'm like what the heck he's like do you want to throw this you know before the game tomorrow and he was like go mess up your mechanics your. I'm like, what the heck? He's like, do you want to throw this before the game tomorrow? And he was like, Oh, mess up your mechanics and your armor. I was like, Oh,

and like Joe was always so cool. So late. And then talking with him a little bit, like I started to get a better understanding of like what this meant to like so many people out in Cali, which like, again, I was ignorant to at that point. Um, but also, I mean, into the fact that like USC that year before I got there was rolling, obviously with Carson and then that, I think that was your first year starting, you know, and you guys, obviously one of the greatest teams in college football history.

So that was the most unfortunate part is I couldn't play a Southern Cal team. Now I deploy that era. Hey, Doug, thanks. I'm like, why can I have been bored at a time where I get to play like this version of Southern? I was, I was telling Jerry earlier, it's like, and you had Notre Dame, Michigan, obviously, and we had USC UCLA and a little bit similar. Like when I was there, it really wasn't a rivalry because UCLA wasn't good, but you go back to Crosstown rivalries in the city of LA. It is important, right? The battle of the bell, like you can go back to some of the great years in the 90s and all that.

But like, I remember my freshman year, we went to Notre Dame and it was like our first time, Pete's first time. So we get there and we go early because we go see like the grotto and we go we're like like it was almost became like a tourist thing we were like pete wanted to do that we got our ass kicked dude it was carlisle holiday carlisle holiday was a quarterback um and like we lost it and like who's your running back you weren't there yet but it would get a good running back um and we just we was this oh one i think it was oh one yeah so anyway anyway. I can't remember, Julius Jones, Ryan Grant, something like that?

Oh no, it was, I think it was both. It was Julius Jones. Julius Jones for sure. And we got our ass kicked and never again. And Pete was like, next time we go back to that fucking place, we're going, it's a business trip. So it was just like,

and that's when I got a first, a taste of like, damn, this is a pretty cool, like the history. Notre Dame is like, Rudy was my favorite movie. Brady makes my, like Rudy's still my favorite sports movie. Like no, I'm serious. Like it's just like, it was so cool to be a part of that. And then, and then to have those three years, I mean, we played three years against each other, um, twice in South bend, which was awesome.

Yeah. Well, the last time for me, yeah, yeah. Did you guys during that have any contact with each other? I mean, you're college kids, so it's different than when you're in the pros and you have an off season, you work out with different guys. Did you guys have any contact over those three years,

or are you just seeing each other's sort of highlights? How do you, I mean, I'm curious about that. Any contact or no? The, I think, what was the year? Cause like, I think we probably hated each other. I think we developed a hatred for each other. I mean, hate's a strong word, but- Sports hate though, not like personal hate.

I would, when I look back, no, when I look back, I'd be like, people ask, I'm like, Brady's my boy. It's like my brother, fuck, I love Brady. But like, we did not like each other back then. And do you remember, I think we've always told this story, but I love this. I didn't tell Jerry's. Remember the coin flip senior year?

Yes. Or my senior year, we're at Notre Dame, this is the Bush push game, you know, this is all of that. And like we're walking out to the coin flip, the captains, and I'm just like, I don't know. I didn't really, I didn't talk a lot of shit playing like, but it was just one of those things. And Brady's just like, look at him, dude.

He's a great guy. The guy was like 250, just chiseled, just looked the part. Like, yeah, just jacked, still jacked up. And I think, what did I say? I was like, I said something about, oh, you've been on, you're on, lay off the steroids at the coin flip. Yes, at the coin flip. And I think, what did I say? I was like, I said something about, oh, you've been on steroids, lay off the steroids at the coin flip. Yes, at the coin flip.

And I don't know what he said. Yeah, well, Brady still calls me bro. He calls me South Bay bro. But it was like one of the funny, when I look back, I'm like, it was one of the dumber exchanges, but it was just like, I fucking hate Notre Dame. I hate this guy. I want to win. It was obviously a big game. Like that was just like, I fucking hate Notre Dame. I hate this guy.

I want to win. It was obviously a big game. Like that was just everything. But that was the moment, that was, that was the coin flip. That was the captains go out there and it's just like, dude, you still in Royds. What's dumb about playing them was obviously they were unbelievable at that time.

Like you guys didn't lose what for two years in like that junior year until you lost against Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Sophomore early my sophomore year and then the last game. Okay. So I just remember being like it's not bad enough and you have to play a team that has like a lot of first round picks on their defensive front or a linebacker or where else. Well, then you're like trying to play a game where you've got to keep it away from their offense, which stunk. I mean, because, and everyone will tell you, Jerry, like, you know, the four minute offenses, right? Yes. I was already when you play we were like this is like Biden's side, just milking the clock that limit however many touches possessions they got. So it was a challenge.

There's no doubt about it. Like I said before, like, unfortunately, we played USC during arguably the greatest era. I think they probably ever had. I don't think that's like hyperbole. It's probably the game. But look, USC was ahead of its time. You know, they had an NIL. well, for NIL was legalized and that was, it was

beneficial, I think, to Southern California. You're so full of shit, dude. Listen, listen, I already have this career. Shut up. All right. Before, before, before we get into this week's game and I don't know, dude, we're going to bet on this. You're going to give me points. I'm not, I'm already saying it right now. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, let me bring in Jerry. Okay. Hold on. I want to ask you something. I want to ask you something before we get to this game. Okay. I want to ask we, we, I know we talk about Bush push

at nauseam. I get it. And I'm not even going to bring it up this week. Charlie Weiss, Charlie was your coach. He coached Brady. Charlie's great. Charlie was a great, fantastic coach, all levels. And you and I have told, like, there's got to be a Charlie Weiss story. It could be that game. I mean, it could be, he came in our locker room after the game. I remember, like I had a lot of respect for him, but yeah, he did. He came in after the goal. Yeah, it was pretty cool. But I know you got some great Charlie Weiss stuff. I mean, I actually just thought he just did he just MF you like he had a pretty much he walked under what I left to go to the NFL. But probably one of the times I was most caught off guard.

And so Jerry, just so you know, like game day, we'll be at the hotel, we have meetings and whatnot in the morning. Then we go to the Basilica and we have a mass. It's like an abbreviated mass. And so we head out from the church, we do this walk all the way to the stadium. And I want to say it was,

I think it was my senior year versus North Carolina. And the weather had kind of turned. At one point, I think Henry Scroop, who was our equipment manager, had asked me, like, hey, what socks do I wear? Do I wear the normal ones or shorter, like longer ones? I'm like, I don't know, it looks like it's gonna be cool. Maybe we're the longer ones or whatever. And I always thought it was cooler anyway.

And so it was like a passing comment. I think I made on like a Friday or something like day before the game. And so we go through the walk and get to the stadium. And before I even get to my locker, I'm hearing someone get run to come get me. And so I'm like, all right, what could this be about? And so I go to I go to coach's locker. Like he had his own separate office locker in there. And he's only wearing his underwear. At no point had I seen Coach in this capacity at any point in the last two years.

And so I was like taken back by the whole situation and meanwhile other F'ing me about who do I think I am, I get to make decisions on the uniform, everything else. I'm like completely blown away trying to be like, what did I do? Like what? It sucks. It's the socks. He thought you were probably soft, right? He's like, you're gonna wear high.

Yeah. I have no idea. I just know that was one of the times I got Mother Nath more than anything else. And he was just in his skivvies, showing me out. I'm getting a visual right now. That is not a good visual. That one sticks out. I also, I'm not a visual right now. That is not a good visual. That one sticks out. I also, I'm not going to throw him under the bus, but I will say my junior year, our second game, we went to Ann Arbor.

And I think game day was there. It was a big match up. It was like a top five, whatever match up, or they were top five. And I just remember trying to go back up to the locker room. They have awful away locker rooms, by the way. It's like the smallest crappiest. You don't even have a locker. You just have like a hook and like they put crap on the wall on a hook and like that's it. And I've never been like, you can't go in locker room. I was like, what do you mean? Like someone overflowed one of the toilets. Oh, I was like, we were out like on the field almost the entire time. And I don't know who did it or what happened. A lot of people threw in different names, different blame.

But I remember like, we had to take turns shuffling into like one area of the locker room because one of the toilets overflowed and there was like sewage like flooding. But that was, we ended up winning, but that was, that was another font memory of many. I just, there's so many, so before, okay, real quick, that just, that just spawned a memory. And we talked about this on the pod a couple of weeks ago before we dive into this week's game, peeing, peeing on the sideline. Okay. I never knew this. So Jerry asked me this and now they have the blue tent, right?

And all this stuff. So like, I basically said, cause it's a common question. Like people are always like, how do you go to the bathroom on the sideline? Typically you don't, right? But if you have to pee, I always said, yeah, like you just,

you literally get on your knee. You have your trainers or whoever put the towels and you just take a piss. Like usually behind like the Gatorade stand or something like that. And I always thought it was funny because I would do it. And Brady knows me now, I'm kind of like a weird, like I just got weird like shit.

I would be like doing it and your head like peaks over the table and then you're just looking at like 80,000 people. Like I can literally remember doing it and he said, I do it all the time. Right, so like, can you co-sign with me? Did you ever have that? Like it happens. Now it's a little different. I think you can go in the blue tent like you're covered. I went to giant dealers and I saw now that I was aware of it. I never noticed in every game I ever went to.

I never just know this players piss. You think they're getting medical attention or something. Straight Peter. I saw like I saw one player walk out with like a bag of piss and he jokingly pretended to throw it at the stealer fans. I never 40 years of watching football. I never noticed any of that. So Notre Dame has gold pants. Yes, they do. Tell me you piss your pants. I didn't. I never honestly like I never had to do that. I had never had to go to the bath and never it was never an issue for me. I don't know why, but we definitely had guys who did just pee their pants because you really couldn't tell whether it was sweat or whether it was pee at that point. And so my only request to the old line was like, if it was our not the center, dude, you can't. Yeah. I was like, if you, I was like, if you piss your pants, I'm going to go right to the coach. Like we're in shock on the rest of the game. I want no part of this. No part of this, dude.

There's nothing worse than sweaty ass center pants. Oh, did it source. Um, all right, dude, let's stop. I don't know. Jerry had something. What's that? I mean, my offer. Can I throw this out? Yes. You can throw it out, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not doing it. Well, let's hear it first, man. I haven't heard it yet. Thank you. I mean, it's just, you know, Matt doesn't live in the Midwest.

He has all these matters, but here's the deal. This is what I've offered. Okay. I'm offering Matthew liner, the third, I'm offering him seven points, which is I believe is the spread or whatever the number goes to before kick. If it goes up, I'm still giving them to you. Still get them. Okay. If it goes down, I'm still giving them to you. Still give them to you. Okay.

As you should. I'll still give you seven. All right. Now, if you win, all right, I have to travel to USC's bowl game and I have to wear USC gear. You don't even have to attend. I will go by myself to their bowl game. Okay. Whoa.

This is what it's like. My wife is going to be giving birth potentially like the third week of January. She is going to be so ticked off. I'm gonna have this like trip that pops up out of nowhere to probably the West coast. That they go sit by myself and watch the USA bowl game. Okay.

But okay. Okay. Let me intervene really quick. Let me intervene just really quick. This is the same stupid shit that you the other side of it is if I win, I'm gonna have Matt fly out private from Southern PJ. Okay. Who saw you? Did you? Did you confirm that? By the way? Did you confirm that? Yes, I did. To Notre Dame for their playoff game, let's say December 20th 8 p.m.

four days before Christmas I Will be out in an it's a PJ you're in and out buddy. Listen, dude, this this is typical Brady Okay, Brady also made no I'm gonna get there You also made a deal or a bet with Dan with DP our friend all of our friends and Patrick About you would shave your head if Notre Dame lost to army knowing the fact that good God the army was never gonna beat Notre Dame and you know damn well that USC It's not going to even cover the points of Notre Dame. Yes, you do you okay?

You do open up our Google notes for our show right now. Did you see my score prediction? 3427. No. Was that it? No. I don't care about your score prediction. Why not?

Wait, I care. We have Brady Quinn on the show. This is typical Brady, dude. Brady knows. Listen, any other year, I took the bet last year, it was awful. We got our ass kicked by 30 points. And I think it might've even been straight up.

Like I'll even, even if you give me seven. I kind of forget. Yeah, dressed up as a leprechaun on the show. Gladly, by the way, I gladly, I leaned into it. Okay, this is a little different. In the history of leprechauns. Because there's a lot of travel involved, would you be willing to go a little higher on the points and i do think it's seven and a half as we speak

i mean if he gave me 14 points i'll take it 14 i'll maybe say 10 and a half dude you're you're literally top five in the cut we're by the way we have the we have one of the worst defenses in college you're gonna run for 900 yards dude okay let me get to how this game is going to play out. OK? OK, this is what we're here for. I think this game is going to be a lot tighter than I realize. And mind you, he mentioned the DP prediction, because I told DP, I said Notre Dame is going to blood army.

OK? Said that, and that's why he pressed back and said, if army wins, you've got to shave your head. And I said gladly, because I know it's not going to happen. Ohio State versus Indiana. What did I say on our show? I said blowout. And we're not even supposed to be doing that. We're supposed to incise viewers. I didn't see the matchup working out well. I think there's going to be like quite possibly the closest game. Actually, I'll put it this way. It'll be the closest game Notre Dame has played as far as being on the winning side of it. I do think Notre Dame wins, but I think it'll be really

real fight. That's because they haven't played anybody, dude, but it doesn't matter. And USC can mash up really well with Notre Dame at the skill position players. Woody Barks, a tremendous running back, you know this, your skill player is a wide receiver, and you've got a running quarterback like Notre Dame does and so there's elements of like if USC can stop the run and and mind you like USC's defensive front is improved and it's better to Matt's give him credit. Brady stop just stop talking. Offensively Notre Dame has been banged up it's not like they have been playing against a team so I think it's going to be a three point game. Like I think it's going to be. Listen, listen, as much as he's trying to sell this because he's a professional politician.

We tell him this all the time. This guy, I just, dude, I can't, I think, I think my wife would leave me dude. If I leave to Indianapolis, bro, this isn't even, by the way, I would love to go, I would love to go PJ, Notre Dame, get booze with my boy, watch Notre Dame play in a college football playoff game. I would love to do that. I would, I would. Four days before Christmas, telling my wife that after we travel all year, and by the way,

the fact that like, I don't even know what bowl game USC would go to. Like, are we even eligible for a bowl game? Are they even getting into a bowl? That's like, I don't even know where I'm going. What's the worst place you could be going? Like what would be your biggest fear? I looked it up.

I think, I mean, there's a good chance it could be the Vegas bowl. Could be worse. No, that would a good chance it could be the Vegas bowl. It could be worse. No, that would be fine. That'd be perfectly fine. Although again, he's going to get photos of me wearing USC stuff, sitting all by myself up in the nosebleeds, watching this game. That's going to be miserable. I, by the way, to answer your question, I think the most miserable bowl game is probably the Sun bowl.

And I was going to say El Paso. El Paso can be really cool at that time. It's an outdoor venue. It's not of the East of the United. So that was looking. There is actually, there is a small chance SC could play Oklahoma in a bowl game, which would be actually pretty fire.

That would be fun. Because they hate Lincoln. I think you guys should do this. Listen, I think get it up to maybe 10 and a half, man. I think negotiate for 10 and a half. This is the shitty part about this. This is what I'm gonna do because I cannot, I can't, I'm gonna be that guy.

I'm a big bet guy. I've always made good to my bets. I've actually lost. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it on, I'm not doing it on the pod right now. We still have a couple days. All right. It's a couple days.

Let me think about this, B. Let me think. I'm not backing out of a bet. I'd rather bet you a thousand bucks. I'll bet you cash, whatever. But the trip is gonna be, I know. The trip is gonna be tough. This isn't, the trip going to be tough, dude.

I'm just being honest with you. BQ, let me tell you something. So Jerry got to experience being at USC with me last week. We did a lot of, it was fun. And he was like, you know, we're walking around and he got to experience a little bit of what college life was like. Jerry, I'm telling you, I'm telling you,

I didn't go to college. Just like, as far as like, I mean, I know that's not, yeah, not that, not that type of college life, uh, being on campus, like experiencing like, is that what happened here? Man, Jesus, I'm signing with USC. Um, I, dude, I, by the way, I mean, Notre Dame, Notre Dame is a beautiful school. I mean, it's not USC in some other elements, but being on campus with Brady, Brady is the fucking mayor of South Bend, Indiana, dude.

You are the mayor. We even broke into his football locker room. Can I get a tour from, can I get, I mean, I did USC. It was really, honestly, it was really cool. That's a show. I just go to college campuses and get tours from like their legendary quarterbacks. Speaking that, what'd you say?

We did it for your social media. We literally broke in to the locker room. Like I thought. Dude, that poor, the poor girl, man. You were about to get her fired, dude. This girl was hosting us. And you have to understand when I first got there, the locker room in our stadium was our only locker room. We had to walk all the way across campus to go to the practice fields.

Then by my junior year, they built this separate locker room, practice facility, all this stuff. So they'd always said, hey, the alarm goes on at a certain time of night. I'm like, no, it doesn't. Because like a certain time of night. I'm like, no, it doesn't. Because I've had to get into the stadium before we go to my locker, like back in the day, I was a freshman sophomore. So this girl's like, no, there's a second alarm. They just say that it's like no way that's true. So we go in, goes off like, Oh God, cops show up everything. Brady was like, no, trust me, we're good. They was one of those like, we're good. Like, Oh God, cops show up. Everything Brady was like, no, trust me.

We're good. They, it was one of those like, we're good. Like, you know, and obviously being with him, but then the other cops came, the poor girl, I was like, dude, you're going to get this girl fired, dude. And Brady was like, I promise if anything happens, it's on me. But it was, it was fantastic. Hey, real quick. Um, I was telling Jerry and you mentioned your kids and you got a whole starting

lineup and, and Elisha gonna have another one here pretty soon in a couple months. Thanksgiving, what is Thanksgiving like at the Quinn household? And then also, I don't think a lot of people know this about you and the family and the incredible athletic in-laws and the genes that your family, I was telling Jerry

a little bit, explain the brother-in-laws and what it's like at the Quinn household. Yeah. So it's funny, you know, we, everything kind of worked out the way it did, but my older sister, Laura is married to AJ Hawk. So by the way, I've got to talk to liner. I didn't get the best of AJ. We played like back when I was like in youth league He beat us in the championship at Centerville and then we go to Ohio State beats us in the Fiesta Bowl So I have to deal with that crap constantly bunch of bullshit, man What the fuck is going on? I don't know if I can I cuss on this?

So that's my my older brother-in-law my younger brother-in-law is Jack Johnson. He's a defenseman for the Columbus blue jacket. So he plays. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously my wife was in the 2008 Olympics. She's a, was a very decorated, uh, Olympic gymnast, uh, won a bunch of medals in the world championships too. So they're extremely athletic and honestly, quite possibly the most athletic of the bunch is my little sister. So my little sister in women's soccer was like the three time Gary and state player of the year in Ohio. I didn't know that.

They'd won two state championships, went on a full ride to UVA. She was on the Olympic development team. She ended up tearing up her knee twice, I believe, sophomore and senior year. And so that kind of ended things for with how bad her knee was, but incredible athlete. Like everything LeBron won coming out of high school was like what she won. When it was like this, like a two or three time- That's amazing.

Yeah, it was incredible. So she's always the one that I try to give love to because no one really hears her story. And she was a ridiculous athlete. Like if you go in our high school, like we're both in the hall of fame. She's the one that has like all these banners, right? like, you know, we made it to the state semis with Forrestal High School, been in football. We want to stay a championship of baseball.

Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, like they want to, there's always Gatorade State player that your banner's up like, damn. But that's our family. Like we're an incredibly athletic competitive family. So there's essentially a fist fight over the turkey and the sides every Thanksgiving. You know what I wanted to ask you, Brady, because look, you know, obviously you cover the game, but it's no secret to that you love the game. What? Because I got excited just listening to maybe thinking about going to a Notre Dame playoff game. That just sounds awesome. What coming into this season and what now excites you about

just the playoff system? Because I'm hyped for it. I really am. I think this changes everything. I think like the fact that you've got the big 12 and like no one controls their own destiny. Like think about it. Right. You have the last game of the regular season and you can't say that if any team wins that they're definitively in the championship game, like there's

all these tie breaking scenarios, which it speaks to a little bit of the realignment, but also just the fact of, you know, the anticipation for like, what has made the regular season better? I think some people were concerned that if you expanded the playoff, it would allow teams to lose more games. And so it wouldn't be as intriguing, but it's had the exact opposite effect now. Yeah. Like, can you make a case for a three loss SEC team that loses in the conference championship? Like let's say Georgia goes to the SEC championship and loses with three losses.

Like you look at the resume and like, well, they beat a lot of good teams, but they also lost three times. And you kind of measure who they lost against versus like an Indiana team that doesn't go to the championship or potentially couldn't, right? So that's the time left. And then how that would factor out.

So there's just, there's all those debates and conversations which I think has actually been like healthy and good for college football. Yeah, I agree. I think it also opens up the potential even, even if we don't get it this year for a Cinderella story, which is what makes college basketball so great. And what we see in the NFL where it's like, yeah,

you got, you know, the juggernaut team. Are you like a Giants fan from Brooklyn? I grew up a Giants fan. We were talking about this earlier on the show, but now I'm a Red Zone fan because I just watched. Tommy Cutlets. Yeah, I can't even. We talk about the, we talk about other Giants. How we doing?

I talk more Giants than I've ever talked to my life on this pod, dude. It's rough. I was even thinking about this and almost wanting to ask both of you this and it's unfair to ask now because there's going to be coaching changes. But if you look at the teams that need quarterbacks, there's quite a few of them. If you just look from afar, even though there will be coaching changes, if you're a quarterback coming in this year's draft, what organization are you looking at saying? Well, I think because Matt talks a lot about it's so important for a young quarterback, the fit and where they go and the

infrastructure around them. And that's why I'm happy Bryce is starting to play well, even though they lost to the Chiefs. But so if you're looking at obviously the Giants, maybe the Jets, the Raiders for sure. There's a solid four or five teams that need a quarterback. What he just wants to know who's coming to the Giants. Is it is it should or who is it cam ward? So here's the problem with that is, is I think everyone who definitively views should door as the number one quarterback. And then maybe it's cam or a Carson's back depending on who you talk to and how you evaluate their tape. But that's the hard part is there's only going to be once, you know, puts themselves in position and, you know, there's some leverage there.

Then if like Diano and they have a destination that they have in mind, I mean, he's really good at like fighting his way. Things work out. Vegas, baby. Vegas. That's going to happen. It's going to happen this year. Really interesting. But I'm not so sure the Giants move on from Brian Dibble. I's gonna happen. It's gonna happen this year. It's gonna be really interesting. By the way, I'm not so sure the Giants move on from Brian Dabble.

I think there's a chance they could stay with him. The off season hard knocks, like couldn't have gone any worse. Like it couldn't have gone any worse. Where the kid actually looks like he, you know, could be general manager is just as good at that point. But he's the one that makes it out to top. I know, it was such a bad, that was such a bad look overthinking this a little bit, but I think the giants would be a great spot for any quarterback.

And part of me too, they tended to be pretty patient. They've tended to try to build around that position. And I think from the quarterback who goes there standpoint, you don't have to do much in order to get a second contract. So like, goes there standpoint, you don't have to do much in order to get a second contract. So like, you just got to be average or, you know, whatever. But I'm just saying, that's attractive, right? Like, listen, I have the talk all the time with my buddy who's just like, you know, it's great that Daniel's got the contract, but he shouldn't have.

That's what you get. You took all the money and that's what you got. You should have. I tagged him, agreed to an extension with Saquon. You could have let it play out another year with Daniel Jones. That would have been ideally how it went. And honestly, like, because they didn't pick up his fifth year option, which was part of that, but here's the thing is I'll say is Matt, you're

lucky because when I moved up from Ohio, from South Florida, I had a bunch of buddies and guys who are East Coast. They're from New York, Jersey, Philly, Boston, all these different accents. There's nothing like talking to like that East Coast sports fan. I know a guy like Jerry. It makes me miss my boys makes me miss Fasano. All my boys. Yeah. Because they're just, oh, we love Fasano. We love Fasano. Dude, what? It's the first time Jerry and I hung out. One of the first times we were in New York

doing a lot of stuff for this and we were watching the Knicks game. And it was my first real interaction to like, he's a diehard Knicks. He's a diehard New York fan, right? So I was like, and as a West coast, I'm like, The Knicks are my Browns.

It was just like watching the Knicks game and him and all, like you're talking about, it just was like, oh, this shit's great, dude. Like this is like a true New Yorker who loves his sports, talks every, I mean, we talk so much fucking giants, dude. I'm like, at this point, it's like Danny Jones is gone, dude. He's gone. It's painful though to not have a meaningful game now

in over two years. And even before that, before that that's why fantasy and betting is what I have because it's been so good for both New York teams but you know I was trying to yeah I was trying to sneak in you just saying the Giants would be a good place for a young quarterback and you kind of did so I feel like it's a big victory. Oh yeah listen hey we're gonna finish we're gonna figure out this bet before the game. Yes, for sure. We appreciate you coming on, man.

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kind of earlier in the show, we're talking about, you know, just the wife being home and all this kind of stuff. And I don't know if you, did you catch the gender reveal that was, that happened, I think on the post game or pre game of Monday night football this week? Yeah. So, yes, I did.

It just, it just was a money moment for me because I just was so basically two, two Ravens fans basically gave whatever I don't know an envelope or whatever. And it was Van Pelt and Kelsey and the crew and Marcus Spears and they announced the gender reveal on live TV, I believe. And I just immediately like we're having a baby and we're not finding out the sex. And I just immediately thought if I were to ask, like genuinely ask my wife, Hey, why don't we do a gender reveal at a football game on TV? The, the, the look that I would have gotten from her, she would have said she literally, I will, she said, I will cut your balls off if you ever do that. Like that's what she would say to me. And she would look, she would be dead serious. I don't, I thought it was great. I thought the

moment was great. I thought it was fantastic. I thought the moment was great. I thought it was fantastic. I thought it was a unique way to do it. It was unique. I'm just saying like, I try to put myself in those shoes and I was like, dude, my wife would laugh in my face and then say that to me, right, in five seconds. So that was my money moment. I thought it was great.

That just wouldn't fly in my house. I have a couple of things. The gender reveal stuff on Instagram has gone wild. I thought it was great. That just wouldn't fly in my house. I have a couple of things. The gender reveal stuff on Instagram has gone wild. We've all seen the fails. It's gone too far. We've never... It's gone too far.

We did one not for social just amongst us and the family with our second kid, right? It was cute. We didn't like do it and blast it out. The things I saw from that, number one, I felt if you really watched the flicker of the dad's reaction versus the mom's reaction finding out when it's a boy the dad instantly went Yeah And the wife you could see the flicker of like fuck and then when you look I'm sure she's thrilled Maybe she wanted to do that's real. I'm not trying to put you know project on to her. I thought I saw a flicker of

Mmm. Oh, yeah that and then I'm not trying to put, you know, project onto her. I thought I saw a flicker of, oh yeah, that. And then I started thinking, wouldn't it be cool if that kid grows up to become a professional athlete? Cause then they're going to roll that clip for the rest of his career. I thought it was awesome. I think the reactions are the best. I had this, a similar experience when my little one was born,

but we didn't really go into that. We don't need to go into that. I do appreciate the ones, especially with dads, where it's like their fifth girl, and they just kind of, oh shit. By the way, what a rock star wife, just wanting to do it on Monday Night Football. That's pretty badass.

And you were there, Matt Leiner. You were present for it. All right. All right, what do you got, brother? So mine, you know, any chance I get to talk about golf, I get really excited. My money moment was Joel Damon. You know who Joel Damon is. I've had the chance to shoot some stuff with Joel Damon on the golf course. Joel Damon star of full swing on Netflix.

We talked drive to survive earlier. Same company does full swing behind the scenes stuff. Joel Damon was the breakout star from that show. He's had a wild up and down career, but he's always had his PGA Tour card. If you fall out of the 125 on the FedEx rankings, you lose your PGA Tour card. Like that's it. It's over. You can still play events, but you're almost like a fill in. Joel Damon went into the tournament last weekend. I think he was 125, but he was not playing well and he had a five foot putt that if he missed and I think he was one 25 but he was not playing well and he had a five foot putt that if he missed I think he misses the cut which would almost assuredly drop him out of the FedEx Cup.

He drills the pot. That's a money moment. Oh, that's a moment. He goes on. Hold on. Let me pull it up. He goes. So he's still at 125 and I think he goes on to shoot a 64 to basically guarantee, finished 125

and retained this PGA tour card. You know what that means? He could play any PGA tour event. He could make his own schedule. He didn't lose his card. Once you lose a card, very, very hard to get back there. Joel Damon, not only, not only a good guy, but stepped up when the money was on the line, stepped up. And that is my money moment. By the way, five, five foot putts are, are harder than 20 foot putts sometimes because just the pressure of making those with your PGA tour card on the line that you make golf, golf, by the way, golf is no joke, dude. Golf is no joke, man. The pressure of the like, it's you against the, it's you against everybody else. That's part of the reason why it's just like, shit, man.

Well, we're going to be seeing more Joel Damon next year. All right, time for our Throwback Three. We were thinking, I guess, because it's rivalry week, like we said, and Brady Quinn, one of your rivals, it would be good to talk about Throwback Three sports team rivalry, heavy on the team, because if you start going down

the individual athletes rivalries. We'll do athletes another time time because there's so many man It's a whole other show good one. So this one is team Matt Okay, so I'll start I'm gonna go three Lakers Celtics. This could easily be this could easily be number one of all time However, you want and by the way, like bird magic is maybe one of the biggest rivalries to What two of the most iconic sports brands, teams in the history of sports, they always will be no matter what. The players obviously going back, I think, you know, 18 championships with the Celtics,

17 with the Lakers going back to the olden days, to recently. And I just remember like, I'm a diehard Laker fan, Kobe fan, I remember being in Europe for the run when they beat the Celtics. And I remember we would be out, we'd either be out all night and get home and it would be on at like four in the morning there. I would be either hammered watching it or for whatever reason we went to bed and we would get up,

I would get up at 3.30 or four in the morning to watch live back here those games and Kobe to win that with Kobe and Gasol going up against obviously KG and Pierce and Rondo and all those guys. So I would just say Lakers, Celtics, the hatred, the respect, the championships, the two best NBA franchises of all time.

That's my number three. Yeah, mine is, I'm sticking in the NBA too, which is ironic, because the Knicks certainly don't have any rivals, because they haven't been good. But the rivalry I enjoyed the most, in addition to Laker Celtics, I'm gonna go Cavs Warriors, because they played each other. Are you nuts?

Go back in time. Warriors win. Then the Cavs win. Then the Warriors get their aunt. They played in the final. Oh, you're talking about LeBron versus the Warriors. And I was going back to like Brad Darny, Mark Price, Chris Mullen. Were they playing Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway?

No, it's the LeBron Cavs second go around versus Steph and the Warriors and you sprinkle in Durant, the 3-1 series. I don't think we'll ever get that again because I don't think we'll get, we'll see what LeBron, I don't think we'll get what LeBron did where one team will be in the NBA finals every single year. And in the Warriors epic, to me, that is a dynasty. I just don't think we'll see that. And those were, to me, the finals where, you know, even though those aren't your teams, you're still watching the stars in those finals. I mean, you had the greatest shooter of all time and in Steph and you have arguably the greatest player of all time.

It was, yeah, that was great. And sprinkling Kyrie with 50 point games and JR Smith grabbing the ball at the foul line, not knowing how much time is left. Down three one series. That was the summer of Richard Jefferson, we like to call the buddy of mine out here. RJ just dunking on people.

He hasn't dunked on anyone. And then Draymond hitting LeBron in the balls. This was amazing. So that's my number three. All right. Number two, I'm going to be there this weekend, Ohio State, Michigan. And I never knew, I'll be, I'll be quiet. I never knew the importance of this and what it meant until I started covering it.

And obviously being around Urban Meyer, who coached in this for seven years there is a a disdain for both like a hatred hatred hatred Within those fan bases college college football and college sports. I think are just different than professional right this goes back I mean the stories and all that so Ohio State crosses out every M on campus, the week of Michigan, maybe before every M, every M.

And it doesn't matter where it is, it is an X, right? They refer to Michigan as the team up North. Coach Meyer has said the word Michigan, I think twice since I've known him for six years. And both times he said it, we all look at him like, coach, what the fuck did you just say? And he goes, and it's almost like, like, like, like a family member died. He's like, oh shit. Did you ask him on social how much money you would take to coach Michigan? Was that? Yeah, I did. He was like no amount of money. He's like, ah, maybe you believe him. Like if they

offer herbal will give you, he would never, he would never do 75 amount of money. He's like, ah, maybe you believe him. Like if they offer herbal, we'll give you. He would never, he would never do 75 million a year. He would never, he wouldn't there. And then, and then just the games like I think Charles Woodson, David Boston back in the day, which is a little player, right? But you just like the moments that I cover it, man. I live it.

There is that there is like clocks in both locker rooms, 364 days until we played that team. And it's both ways. It is remarkable. I think it's arguably the greatest rivalry in all of sports. I didn't put it as my number one, but it is up there. And I encourage, it's a bucket list, like to go see.

It is really, really cool. My number two, I'm sticking in college, but I'm sticking with basketball. And I've been to, I've been to one of these in my life and it was outstanding. Is it your number one? Yeah. Are you going to Duke Carolina number one?

Yep. All right, well, then let's talk about that. No, I haven't been to many college basketball games. I went to one Duke Carolina game and both teams weren't even good at this moment. It was a down year for both teams and I have never been. I've been in a lot of cool sporting environments. I don't get the college thing because I didn't go. We discussed this even when we were at USC with you. But man, I understood it when I went to Duke in Carolina.

And then you start thinking about the players and the coaches and which way, which, which should he go to? Did you go to Duke or I went to Duke? Yeah, I went to Duke. Cameron indoors. Cameron indoor was nuts. You feel like you're on the high school gym. Yeah. So that has to be one of the, I think if they were all going to die, I think that'd be the

last one to die almost. I think, I think, yeah, that was my number one. And I'll just say like, I, I, I went to one game and it was, Duke was very good. Carolina wasn't. So it wasn't like a great game, but I experienced everything you did. And I went with like a pretty big Duke person. So we got the full, and I know coach K a little bit and he was great. We got the full VIP treatment and we sat courtside, like one row up right behind the announcer. And I'm in here, I'm thinking like, this is high school basketball. Like it's a high school gym and the, and the, the Duke crazies, the student section. And then as you said,

like, like Reddick, uh, Grayson Allen, Leightner hands broke, like, like talk about some of the most hated paid all time, dude. And it's what 15 minutes down like tobacco road or whatever. It's, it's, it's by far, dude. I hated it. I hated it. And it's what, 15 minutes down like Tobacco Road or whatever? It's by far, dude. I love that one, man. Yeah, I didn't mean to step on your number one because-

No, what's your number one? We try not to be complete homers with this throwback three, but it is a personal one. It's Yankees Red Sox. Okay, I was like, are we gonna go somehow giants in this thing? No, I tried to find a giants rival. I know you did.

They haven't beaten the Cowboys in like 12 years. I don't even remember the last time we beat the Eagles in a meaningful game. There is no giants rivalry. You can't even talk about the giants, which is why Scott Hansen is so important because I'm a red zone guy. There's no need.

Shout out to the goat by the way. The goat, Scott Hansen. That is completely it for me with that. But if you are even curious about the Red Sox, To the goat by the way. That's it. That is completely it for me with that. But if you are even curious about the Red Sox Yankees rivalry, obviously it goes way back to Babe Ruth. But go watch Jeter's doc, go watch the captain, which is an amazing doc if you just respect a great athlete, even if you're not into Yankee porn like I am.

And then if you are a Yankee fan, I encourage every Yankee fan, go watch the comeback on Netflix about the Red Sox 04. It hurts, but you really see what the rivalry means to both people, fans, not even the teams and the players, of course, but the fans. In 04, they were so ready to lose to the Yankees again. And they start drinking in the locker room. It was Mellard. They start drinking Jack Daniels, whatever they were drinking in the locker room, they

win one game. And then next thing you know, history is made. So go watch that stuff. That's the number one. And I think baseball, we just had Yankees, Dodgers, which was great. We really need the Yankees and the Red Sox to be good at the same time. It hasn't happened in a while. The big poppy era. Man, big poppy was great. We really need the Yankees and the Red Sox to be good at the same time. And it hasn't happened in a while. The big poppy era, man, big poppy was great. But rivalries are like, it's what makes sports

so unique. It doesn't matter if it's collegiate NFL. Gosh, I mean, you can even do high school these days. Like it is, it's, it's, it's so much fun. And then the history and the stories, that's why those docs are great, right? Cause it just takes you back into like, how did they become the rival? Or how did, like, where did this story start? Where did it start? Yeah, I think that's so fascinating, man. Yeah, all those bucket lists, man.

Duke Carolina. That's the throwback three. Let us know yours, cause I'm sure we miss some. And wait till we get to the athlete one, the individual one, that'll be great. Matty, I know Thanksgiving's not a thing for you because you work and you travel on Thursday, but happy Thanksgiving and everybody listening out there,

safe and healthy Thanksgiving. For me, yeah, for me, I know. Once the football's done and the turkey's eaten, Bree's family has a really cool tradition. The minute football's over and we ate and dessert's done, they throw on Christmas vacation. It begins the Christmas movie season for them, for their family. Real quick, are you, are you glued to the couch on Thanksgiving or do you have to actually socialize?

Well, we, we hosted two years in a row. We're not hosting this year. So now I'll get much more football and, and chillin where when you're hosting, I mean, I don't even think I talk to anyone. It's just hosting is a whole different thing. So, but you seriously, everyone out there, happy healthy Thanksgiving. Thank you for all the support. Follow us on all socials at throwback show. I didn't mention it earlier. We've been interacting. We will get back to you and a special something I'm really thankful for. I'm really thankful for cash out being our presenting sponsor. It's cool to... Yeah, shout out Cash App.

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