Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Shedeur Sanders Pranked, Matt Leinart Punk’d and Stadiums We’d Like to See Revived

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

When a prank call goes just a bit too far.  On the latest episode of Throwbacks, Matt Leinart and Jerry Ferrara discuss the infamous Shedeur Sanders phone call with Matt sharing details of the time h...e appeared on Ashton Kutcher’s former show, Punk’d.    The guys also look back on their draft week experience in Green Bay including Jerry’s relationship-building sessions with Urban Meyer and Matt’s memories of nearly being selected by the Raiders.  Plus, with RFK Stadium close to being revived for the Washington Commanders, it caused us to wonder which stadiums from the past we'd like to see put back in play.  New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/)      A big thank you to our sponsors:    Wendy’s    Find your new favorite Frosty® flavor today with choices like Brownie Batter, Strawberry and Caramel Swirl.  https://m-wendys.app.link/frostyswirl25  ZipRecruiter   Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE: https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Throwbacks    Nissan  Take adventure to new heights in the all-new 2025 Nissan Armada.  Go to https://NissanUSA.com/Armada to learn more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Shador dropping to the fifth round the prank call thing. Look, it's it's a prank. No one got hurt Yeah, but it's messed up. Like I can't say like like wow, you really like up kid. Oh, I can that's grounds That's that's grounds of getting your ass kicked. Trust me All right, welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. We have survived Green Bay, Wisconsin. We were live pretty much all draft. If you're taking this show in today, we appreciate it. Subscribe on YouTube, follow on Apple and Spotify, leave comments on the show's YouTube page and check out all the content on all social media platforms at Throwback Show. subscribe on YouTube, follow on Apple and Spotify, leave comments on the show's YouTube page,
Starting point is 00:00:45 and check out all the content on all social media platforms at Throwback Show. We do go live now on all of these social media platforms. Can you hear that? Wait, hold on, time out. Matt, is someone, is that ice skating? I know you live in Southern California. Someone ice skating in your studio?
Starting point is 00:01:01 What is going on? What is that noise? I'll say, I think two weeks ago, because we were in Green Bay last week, two weeks ago, I started the show fired up because there's just a lot of shit happening, dude, around my house. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Some things don't change. I've been up for three hours. The flea guy, but yeah, by the way, for those that are listening, if you followed my flea journey, we still have fleas. Ghostbusters came again this morning, but they just did the room, isolated in our bedroom, which is great,
Starting point is 00:01:29 but we're finishing up our backyard. So today all the field turf goes in, which is a great thing, but they're just gravelling the shit out of the wagons right next to me, dude. So that's what we might be hearing from time to time. Yeah, no, we're good right now. From time to time, you might be hearing that. I apologize, it shouldn't last that long,
Starting point is 00:01:44 but listen, I'm just trying to survive today, man. I'm just trying to get through. It's 8.45 in the morning where I'm at, and I feel like I've had a full day already. Like I need a drink. Look, I always do respect. Bro, all good though, man. I always do respect in all of our throwbacks,
Starting point is 00:02:00 group chats, or whatever. You know, I'm on East Coast time. Our producer Andrew is on East Coast time. So like, I'll see some messages and I always just like, I'm going to wait a little while because I don't want to, Matt's probably not out. You're you're like the first person to respond. I'm like, dude, 5 45 in the morning, line art's hitting back the group chat. Listen, if you, if you didn't know this about me already, I am, I'm a, I hate, I, you're not a great responder. You're not, you're not, I get a, I hate, I, you're not a great responder. You're a terrible responder.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I get overwhelmed. Yeah, it's something, it's something strange about you that I'm learning in our, in our journey of our friendship is you don't, I am such a fast, maybe I'm on my phone a lot, which is also a problem, but I can multitask. I'm a very quick responder. So like if you text me, I'm texting you right back
Starting point is 00:02:42 if I'm on my phone. When I text you, I might not hear. I've learned on the weekends with you, which I know is family and I get that, that I might not hear from you for like eight hours. And if I need something super important, I still might not hear from you for eight hours. That's what I'm gathering, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's fine though, it's fine. Don't worry about it. Yeah, maybe that's the difference between like quarterbacks and actors as well, where it's like, you know, I think that is a very good quarterback thing Like hey, he respond like he's on it when information's coming and going Maddie. Ice is Taking in the strips on it. That's a respectful thing to do
Starting point is 00:03:15 All right before we get into it, we're gonna recap everything that we did at the NFL draft We're gonna talk some of the chador stuff We have to make mention of it and then we're gonna do some mailbag stuff later in the show. But I did something that you would completely disapprove of this weekend. What's that? So, you know, I come back from Green Bay, we'll talk about more Green Bay stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And obviously- How was that travel back, by the way? Was that good? It was rough, rough getting back from the Bay. Welcome to my life in the Midwest every weekend in the fall. But, you know, Brie had a birth decision. My wife's a doula, so she was kind of gone the whole day. I had the kids, and I was just away for days,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and I was happy to see them, but the Knicks were also playing, and we had a birthday, a kid birthday party at 1 o'clock. And this is going back a few days, so the Knicks were playing at 1 o'clock. And I legitimately left my phone at home. And I recorded the game. It's ballsy. And we, also because my six year old's now obsessed
Starting point is 00:04:11 with the Knicks and we went to, it was like a soccer party, they rented out a soccer field, played soccer, we got home at three o'clock. Game is probably in the fourth quarter. And like a Jedi master, I had the discipline, I did not touch my phone and me and Jacob powered through the whole game in an hour and 10 minutes, and then I looked at my phone. You would never in a million years.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I don't understand how people can rewatch a sporting event that has already happened. I just don't. Well, I'm not really rewatching it like a day later. My buddy back in the day when TiVo was a thing, he would like TiVo Lakers games already, by the way, already knowing the outcome, but would rewatch the game.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And I'm like, what are you talking about? That's a little different, I don't do that. I didn't know the outcome, I stayed off of it. I had no idea what happened in the game. The fact that, well, one, a couple mistakes you made. One is just not bringing your phone to a kid's birthday party, which we've talked to more than my only out at a kid's birthday party is pretending like I'm taking phone calls during it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So I don't have to socialize. It was soccer party. I played goalie. I was a stone wall. So if you were interacting, that's fine. But when I when I'm at a party, I'm on my phone. Again, I'm not on my phone a lot, but when I need a break, I think, oh, I gotta go take this.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Oh, sorry guys, I gotta get this. And I'll just, listen, I'll go into the shitter of a friend's house and just sit there and just be on my phone for 10 minutes. I feel like that's what all our uncles and dads did back in the day, except for, like, I'm gonna go out for a smoke. I'm gonna go out for a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, that's like the ultimate out at the party where you just don't wanna socialize with the other people. But yeah, I thought it it was good restraint by me and I don't know if a lot of you do that there But with the Knicks, that's the only team I would ever do that with I guarantee you that everybody and I care I'd be curious. That's a good mail back quite like do you do you put your phone away so you can rewatch a game? That's already happened. I think you're asking it the wrong way though. I'm not Game I know the result like it the wrong way though. I'm not rewatching a game. I know the result. Like the game's still going on technically. When I turned it on in the first quarter,
Starting point is 00:06:09 the game was in the fourth quarter probably. That's just tough for me to wanna sit. No commercials, no half time. To sit for two hours to watch a game that's literally three hours ahead to catch up when the whole world is talking about it. Also you should know my remote skills. You would never have a lapse in action.
Starting point is 00:06:27 That's the thing. Their game is always on. I'll even fast forward like a free throw if I know the guy's going to make both. I'm a Jedi with the remote. Wow. All right. Well, we, yes, we ventured.
Starting point is 00:06:40 We partnered up with Triple Option last week, live shows, all throughout Green Bay. We basically created a draft house right across from Lambeau, which was incredible. ventured. We partnered up with Triple Option last week, live shows all throughout Green Bay. We basically created a draft house right across from Lambeau, which was incredible. But it got off to an interesting start. We all fly in and we do our rehearsal. We see the house and the space and it's dope. And then we go to dinner, the only steakhouse that I think I really saw in Green Bay. I thought it was really cool. You know, we had a big crew, like 30 of us, and we were waiting to get seated, and in the kind of semi-private room was Cam Ward. Having his night before the draft meal,
Starting point is 00:07:13 I just thought it was really cool. I got a quick glimpse at him. It's like, that dude literally tomorrow is about to be the number one pick, and his whole life is gonna change. We kind of knew that, and yeah, he was in there. I know Mark Inger went over to say what up to him. And I think even everything post-draft you've seen from him, just a very humble kid. Obviously the family was there. You know, you saw the
Starting point is 00:07:37 emotions of him getting drafted. I think there were things like he was calling each draft pick after they were to like, like you just you just saw it like you saw how special he was, you know, I think throughout this process, you you you get glimpses basically whatever narrative the media kind of wants to portray with these these players we've seen, I know we'll probably end up talking about Chador and that was opposite of what happened but you see a lot of these narratives being you know, painted a certain way so then when you do get to see really just the raw emotion of that moment, we talked about it on the show, you know, like that's an incredible moment,
Starting point is 00:08:11 whether you're drafted first or whether you're drafted in the seventh round, like it is a, it's a life changing moment that you get to share. And then the real work begins, right, to become a professional and make it. But Cam Ward's a star. Best of luck to him in Tennessee, obviously. He's a really, really talented player. Seems like a great, great kid.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And he's got a lot of work to do though. He's got a lot. Do you say the least talked about? The least talked about. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I mean, I think that's the bummer of this draft that, and it's not technically should doors fault, but the whole draft was about where he was sliding and where he was going to fault. Yeah. It's like, let's cover everybody. And obviously that was his own
Starting point is 00:08:55 situation, but yeah, it was a, like the most unassuming least talked about number one pick that I can remember. And that's kind of what this draft was anyway, outside of like Travis Hunter was the star of the draft and then the conversation about Shador and essentially like who's going to draft him and how far does he fall? Like that was the whole narrative for three days. So you know what else stood out to me when we were doing the live shows, Lambo behind us, meeting the people in Green Bay who are just awesome. Shout out. And like, you know, I think we even asked the question on the live show, like what a another cold weather city with an outdoor stadium ever get the Superbowl. And obviously we saw it
Starting point is 00:09:35 in New York and dome teams get it. But then when you look at Green Bay, it's like, yeah, you'll even know if they necessarily have the infrastructure for it. But the draft is the best is like the next best thing. Cause I always thought like, will I ever go to a draft, sit there with my buddies to hear someone's name get called? Like you're really not watching a game. But when it's your city, like what they did with the
Starting point is 00:09:56 key goal in two, I really do think that's the next best thing. And I really do think they should focus on the cities that don't get the Superbowl bids. I think it's pretty cool. And I think that's what they'll do for that very reason. There's never going to be, never is a strong word, but I would bet that there's never going to be another cold weather Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think New York was maybe the last one. And actually New York ended up having pretty good weather, right? It wasn't bad at all. Minnesota was a nightmare, but it was a dome. But I heard the weather was so like... Indy, yeah. It's just not gonna happen unless they have a dome. But the NFL has done a great job
Starting point is 00:10:34 in making this draft an event. It's a spectacle. It's great for these cities. It's great for the economy. I mean, there was like, with all due respect to Green Bay, we were there. There's not much to do in Green Bay. Right, the team is the focal point of the city. The team is the focal point,
Starting point is 00:10:50 the downtown is about three blocks wide. We stayed 45 minutes away, but 200,000 people plus showed up on the first night. I don't even know where half those people stay in the state of Wisconsin, but that's a, it's, they've done and they make it a, they make it a show. They make it a spectacle. It's a really, really well done. It's great for the, and then honestly, it becomes like a really cool experience in a weekend for a lot of these people. And you
Starting point is 00:11:20 can mix in, like you can go party and go out, you can go whatever. So really Green Bay did an awesome job. I mean, our, like you said, party, you can go out, you can go whatever. So really Green Bay did an awesome job. I mean, like you said, our house, the backdrop was Lambeau, which was incredible. The fans were awesome. It was just a really cool couple days out there. Well, selfishly for me too, you know, we did the triple option with, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:38 Rob Stone, Urban Meyer, Mark Ingram, and our show Crossover. I have not spent a ton of time with Coach Urban Myer yet. What are your thoughts of Coach Myer? I have a full review. You ready? I have a full review. Because people are going to listen to this.
Starting point is 00:11:53 What are your full thoughts on Coach Myer, on what did you think of him before, and leaving those couple days spending the good. You spent time with him before, but like, kind of, we were pretty, it was pretty intimate. We were in the green room at Bodge. I mean, I rode from the airport with, like, we landed together.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Give me the review. Give me the pre and post. Okay, so pre, my first encounters with him were through other, like, Sinclair events, and it was really cool. He has no fucking clue who I am, which is great. Like, never saw Hantaraj, never saw Power. He has no fucking clue who I am, which is great. Like never saw Hunter Raj, never saw Power. He only knows like some, he was probably told, oh it's like a TV star
Starting point is 00:12:31 and he sees me like this is the TV star. Really quick, really quick. He used to always say like early on, hey that Jerry Jerry guy is a good dude, huh? Like he does it, like that's what he says. I'm like yeah coach, like you know he's on pretty big, yeah he was, yeah he does it, like that's what he says. I'm like, yeah, coach, like, you know, he's on pretty, but yeah, he was, yeah, he seems like he's, he's great. Huh? And then he just, and then he'll, by the way, he never listens to anybody. He'll ask you a question and then just go and talk to somebody else. But go ahead. So, yeah, so like, it was kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Like he was not wowed by me, but he was still very, he was cool and cordial and asked some questions, everything you said. So we're off to like a decent start, and then I just hadn't really interacted with him a ton, but to this point he was like, almost seemed like very like patient with me, like all right, he's not a football guy, we'll get to know him.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So now I land in Green Bay, and I get my bags, and I'm hustling to the car, because we have to go to rehearsal, and the person picking us up was like, are you here yet? I picked up our other guest. I'm like, okay, I'm riding with someone. I'm like, oh, okay, I'm like 10 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'll be there. Who'd you pick up? It's like, um, something Meyer. I'm like, oh shit. So coach is out there standing and waiting for me by the car. I hustle out there. You already run the dog house.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, but no, we had a nice drive over and then slowly over the week, he starts asking me questions like, so like, how old were you when you started doing this entourage thing? And people are telling coach, gotta watch Entourage, it's a great show. And he's starting to see some of the fans that were at our draft house interact with me
Starting point is 00:13:55 and taking pictures, not saying I was a big deal, but he's starting to see it. And then he comes up to me, he's like, what's that entourage show on? I had to HBO, he didn't even know what it was on. He's like, all right, could you set me up with it? I want to start watching it. So we get his iPad up in our little green room,
Starting point is 00:14:11 and I queue up the pilot. And I'm the first person you see in the pilot. And I come walking on it, and he's like, that's you. He's like, you're a big boy back there. That was 203. And so now he's like fully in on Entourage. And by the end of the trip, it felt like Urban was like my uncle.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And we just had this great rapport. And he was like coming up to me like, Jerry, what are we doing? What are we doing, Jerry? Which I think he tells you guys all the time. He's like, what are we doing here today? What are we trying to do? His number one line is, Matt, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Like, what are we doing? Like, what are we doing? It could be about anything. The fact that we are, okay, so trying to paint this picture. So we're in this house and our green room is like, you know, like a bedroom. Like, is that good size? Or like a garage, right? Maybe, I think it might have been the garage.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah, it was a garage. So like, and it's set up, you know, we had our, like a couch in there and we're just kind of chilling off to the side. And at that point, that was before the show. So like everyone's like excited. Like there's, there's a lot of fans there. I think there was a thousand people throughout the day, like a foot traffic that came in throughout the day and coaches sitting on his iPad while we're all kind of standing around executives, we're kind of like having our car, like we're just like
Starting point is 00:15:21 shooting the shit and he's just watching on blasting on blasting on trash on his iPad where he just like, he's always just, he stands it up. He's always like, he does this on the road with us all the time, but he'll be watching news. He'll be watching like, like YouTube documentary, Instagram, he'll scroll through Instagram. Like it's the funny, he's the greatest man. I just wish people. So then I start thinking like what if he likes it and we talk more about it, you know the age old question is like obviously we always joke with you,
Starting point is 00:15:51 like you would have been the easiest layup cameo of all time back in the day. But what could we do with Coach Urban Meyer on Entourage? How could we loop him in? I came up with a few things, because you can't really believe that the Vince character would be playing any kind of a football player. But what if they're doing like a Tim Tebow movie,
Starting point is 00:16:13 and Johnny Drama thinks he can play Urban Meyer, so he requests to shadow Urban Meyer for a week while you're doing like Big Noon and stuff to get to know, so you get this Johnny Drama, Urban Meyer, spin-off episode, which I think would be perfect. That's like the best way. Johnny Drama wants to play Urban Meyer
Starting point is 00:16:33 in the Tim Tebow story. Urban hates nothing more than being on set, filming something. I mean, we've done a bunch of commercials over the years with Fox and Big Noon and you kind of saw it there. It's what are we doing? He hates sitting there. So honestly, you get drama, you get drama
Starting point is 00:16:54 in one of his cranky moods and upset. That could be funny. That could be good. So last thing to wrap up, Urban, I got a question. This is a question for you. Is it weird? Because look, I don't know what to call him. You all call him coach,
Starting point is 00:17:08 but you all played professional football. You, do, is it weird for a non-professional athlete to call a Hall of Fame coach just coach? Nope, not at all. I call him, so that's what I've been calling him. You call him coach. Is that cool? Oh, way cool.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Okay. Yeah, call him coach. Because I like to call him urban, that cool? Oh, way cool. Okay. Yeah. Cause I'm not gonna call him Urban, that feels weird. Like, hey, Urban, can you come over here? Yeah, cause he's just got a, you know, it's just, he's got a, he's got a unique name. His wife call, we call him Herbs. That's, that's when you get to know him real, real intimately.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, I'm not there yet. Herbs. No, we call him. It feels good to call someone, I'm not gonna lie. Feels good being like, hey, coach, it just feels awesome. Yeah, I think, I think if I, like, if I go up to, and again, I know coming from an athlete, but yeah, that's totally, totally fun.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I think if I saw, like, if I saw, you know, obviously Pete Carroll, if I saw any coach tomorrow in like a grocery store, I'd be like, hey, what's up coach? What if you saw Brian Dable in the grocery store tomorrow? I would say, coach, Matt Leiner, what's up, buddy? He's like, hey, Matt, what's going on? That's what I would do. So I wonder, is it weird if some out of shape actor is like,
Starting point is 00:18:13 hey, coach, what's going on? I think, honestly, universally, fans, anyone calls him coach. That's just what he goes by. Yeah, at the Urban, I always had a weird thing with, as a professional, this is so funny, because when you're in college, you call your head coach, you call them coach, right? Like coach, like Sark.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Or I called Sark easy in Sark, but like it was, I never called him coach Sark, but he went by Sark, which was kind of a nickname. I didn't call him Steve. When you get to the NFL, it's because you're just grown, you call all your head coaches by their first name. So in the NBA, if you've seen press conferences, it's like whatever, New York Knicks, who's
Starting point is 00:18:54 the New York Knicks? Oh, Tom. Yeah, or they'll call him Tibs, because that's their nickname. But Pete, Pete Carroll, when you're in the NFL, you go, oh yeah, Pete said this, or JJ Redding. There's this automatic, once you get to the professionals, you go like, oh yeah, Pete said this or like JJ, like, you know, JJ ready. We never it's it's there's like this automatic once you get to the professionals. It's like, uh, we're gonna call our coach by his first name I love it. It's really it's like it's strange. Yeah, it's cool. And some people take it too. Do you know, uh, Chandler parsons at all or no a little bit. Yeah, he calls everybody coach. Yeah, he calls me coach
Starting point is 00:19:21 I'm supposed to play golf with him in Vegas during the Super Bowl and I get a text at like 7 a.m. Hey coach, not gonna be able to make the tee time. I'm like, why is this dude calling me coach? Now it's just like a thing. Calls everyone coach. There's a handful of people, Coach Wanstead calls everybody coach, I think. There's a handful of people that just like say that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I think Tom, I think Brady and Edelman, it calls them bubs. You've probably heard Edelman and Edelman, it calls them bubs. You've probably heard Edelman say that. Edelman calls me bubs. Hey bubs. So like, I don't know. I think sometimes it sticks and these people just say Do I have the balls to call Coach Meyer herbs?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like I'm not there yet. I feel like I had to wait for one more Christmas to pass. By the way, when you do, I'm going to film that shit. Yo, herbs. By the way, he can't hear in one ear Yo, Herbs, you catching up on Entourage Herbs. He can't hear in one ear anyway, so he probably wouldn't even hear you. The following was recorded from inside an ice plunge.
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Starting point is 00:21:26 I'm more so, I found myself wanting to talk more about the prank call thing. I don't know how much you were paying attention to it or saw it and I had immediate thoughts. And obviously, look, it's a prank. No one got hurt so you're like, all right. Yeah, but it's messed up, bro. I can't say like, wow, you really it's a prank. No one got hurt, so you're like, all right. Yeah, but it's messed up, bro. It's so, it's-
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like, I can't say like, wow, you really fucked up, kid, but it's more just like, that was really, really dumb. Well, more so like, how dumb. That's grounds of getting your ass kicked, dude. Trust me. Well, tell me what you think of this, because look, I grew up, I'm 45 years old. I remember the Jerky Boys album, right?
Starting point is 00:22:05 All those dudes did was prank call people and kind of abuse them on the phone. And they made a lot of money off doing that. So I'm about to say, might contradict that, but you know, you kind of used to do pranks back in the day to try to make your buddies laugh. And nowadays it's a real culture where it's pranks for views, right?
Starting point is 00:22:24 There's that one kid, I don't even know if he's a kid, maybe he's older than, what, Jack Daugherty or whatever, who just live streams him fucking with people and then you go to say something and then his giant security guard comes over. So it just felt like they were trying to go viral with this clip and I just don't know, they weren't even trying to make their friends laugh.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I don't even know what they thought was gonna be the end result. And now is it going too far? I don't think they thought anything of it is the reason why it's just so stupid. You don't think so? I think they thought, hey, we're gonna film this and they filmed it, Matt.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We're gonna air it and people are gonna think it's hilarious. And the fact that a coach's son, like how, like how it bothers me because I've lived in that moment and you're taking away the best moment that some of these kids may ever get in their entire life in their professional career. Like think about it. Like, like, I mean, should doors one, but like everybody, like then everybody started coming out like, oh, I got pranked like three times. Cooper Dejean got pranked last year. It's just-
Starting point is 00:23:32 Stupid, it's not even funny. It's dumb, man. It's not even funny. It's stupid. Those kids should get their ass kicked to be honest with you. I can't imagine being that kid and like the coach, like if that was my, like I talked about it with Josie this week. Well that's what I wanted to ask you because you have an
Starting point is 00:23:51 18 year old son, you've been in the public eye for your whole entire adult life, and you, I'm sure, have a lot of phone numbers in your phone. At any point did you ever have to tell Cole, not only just don't take numbers, your phone, right? Like at any point did you ever have to tell Cole, not only just like don't take numbers, but also like, look, what you do does reflect on me. You're my son, you know? Oh yeah, we have that conversation still now.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Like his, yeah, I mean, that, and that's just in his world of how he carries himself in football, in the locker room, what he puts online, what he doesn't, how, when he meets people, look, I mean, it's as small as like, hey, like firm handshake, look people in the eye and respect them. Like, I don't care who it is. Like, it's just you're just trying to set that example. So that whether it's football or whatever that they're just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:33 that like, they're out there, they're representing their name while they're representing themselves well, right. And in sports, like, it's it's a lot more, you know, magnified, especially with these kids. I just hate it because I just know what that moment feels like. And it's just really fucked up. A lot of dumbass kids. And I've had this conversation, Jerry, with Cole.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I've done dumb shit too. I've done dumb shit. So have I. I've had this conversation with Cole a million times. And I've said, listen, man, and this is no disrespect to some of the people that you hang out with. You are on a trajectory that's going up. You have a full scholarship to play college football at a university. And when it's all said and done, you might have multiple scholarships and have, you know, multiple schools to play college football at the next level. You have a golden
Starting point is 00:25:21 opportunity to make a good amount of money. If that's, if you want to put in the work to do that, the people around you could give two fucks about what you do at the next level. They, that some of them are your boys, but they're all 17, 18, 19. They want to go out. They want to party. They have nothing to lose. They are going to college to go to college to enjoy a college experience. By the way, that's fine. But you're not that. And I've been hammering that point home for years and years and years in the last couple of years. So, but again, at the end of the day, and then just goes on to this whole prank thing, like Ulbric's kid, like that's like,
Starting point is 00:26:00 you know, like he knows better, obviously. And he knows like, but like you get caught up, you have some boys that are might be like, Hey, let's do better, obviously. And he knows like, but like you get caught up, you have some boys that are like, hey, let's do this, whatever. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my God, what did I just do? Like it's tough, man. But like, yeah, I, I, all, all the, all, anyone who's prank calling potential draft picks
Starting point is 00:26:15 need to get their ass kicked. And that's, that's a mutual. That's what I would say too, by the way, it's not funny. It's corny. Like it's not, if you're gonna like take a serious, you're not even a serious you're not even being entertaining us it'll be interesting I mean look at the end the day like what what is the end what are you gonna like what are the
Starting point is 00:26:32 repercussions like what are the consequences like it's not like there wasn't a like nothing no some people were talking for the Falcons to be penalized like a pick or something like you're gonna punish a whole fan they're like you're gonna put yeah you're a pick for like a prank call that they couldn't control like. I'm sure the dad did not know that happened and I guess the message for every coach is like it's unfortunate you have to have a locked iPad and phone that no one knows the password to. There will be there will be there will be a change guarantee in the NFL next year that right somehow these numbers like like, whatever, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I mean, it is what it is, but yeah, man, it's messed up. The thing that also stuck out, because it's funny, right? I saw a ton of the Cam Ward, Shador Sanders video. Did you see that video all week where like Shador is talking about making music? And I don't remember this video. They shot it a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I don't remember it coming out. I remember a lot of their videos together, yeah. But this one, they played those two, it really did at some point feel like, why are you playing this over and over and over and over again? Because it really does not make, it does not make Shador look bad,
Starting point is 00:27:39 but it definitely looks like these are two very different players and choose who you want. Yeah, it's. But what didn't get enough coverage was, I thought Shadora's reaction to the prank was awesome. Like, he was like, is this an immature, corny song? I wasn't really bothered by it. It's like some corny, like, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:27:53 whatever, young kids make dumb, I thought the difference between one 21-year-old kid and another was pretty big of how Shadora kinda took that. Because the answer was awesome. I just wanna say this about this process, and look, and I've, gosh, I've covered Chador for a couple of years. I've met the kid. I liked the kid. I love like, like, I don't have a bad thing to say about it. And I wish him the best. I think he's a really good player. And, and is he better than a
Starting point is 00:28:18 fifth round pick? He is for sure. In my opinion, at the end of the the other day doesn't matter and that and the NFL viewed his play a certain way and But I will just say this the the the and I went through this thing by the way I was guilty to some extent too. Like I had my entourage no pun intended, but I did I had a Cliche running around I had a I had a perception about me You know this this I'd say arrogant, but just like, Hey, this Hollywood kid, does he really love football? This and that, like I had that, that process, especially as a quarterback is no fucking joke, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It is no joke. And you need to carry yourself a certain way. And that's, and then look, and this isn't even pointed at Chador. This is just like for all everybody out there, Like, like, like humility is a real thing. And these NFL teams don't give two shits. They are in that meeting, grilling you, dissecting you. They want to make sure that if, if that you're their type of guy that can lead a franchise, especially quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:29:21 right, like I can speak on quarterbacks. So if you're in that process and it's more about you than them or, you know, they don't like certain answers, like that literally can equal what we saw. Like I've seen it, like it's happened a bunch of times. And by the way, I was guilty of it partly too. Now I went 10th overall, but like that perception carried with me for a couple of years and it was part of the reason
Starting point is 00:29:44 why it was hard for me to like, just stay in the league, like it took a mental toll. So I just think like, you're not like no players bigger than the NFL, man. And you saw that, like, no, no players bigger than the shield. I think Shador is a hell of a player, man. I'm rooting for him. I think he got humbled in this process. Like he for sure did. I think and that's okay. Like, that's a good thing. And he's going to be motivated. and that's okay like that's a good thing and he's gonna be motivated and he's gonna be a good
Starting point is 00:30:07 player I would not be shocked if he's making that it's just it's a it's a It's a chance to make a lot of people lose their jobs. That's who does Handles it that way but that process is no joke and yeah I mean and you just saw first hand and again I by the way I put this out on X and I stand by this. If you aren't, and Shador's a little bit of an anomaly cause I think a lot of people thought he was a first round
Starting point is 00:30:31 at least a second round and he fell. So that's one thing. If you aren't guaranteed a first round draft pick, I mean, if you aren't hearing from everybody that you're gonna be in the first round, stay in school, man, and make that money. And Quinn Ures is a perfect example. Quinn Ures turned down millions of dollars in the portal
Starting point is 00:30:52 to go and be a seventh round draft pick, and a seventh round draft pick. It's just like, you gotta be smart. And again, maybe just over college, whatever, and that's fine, maybe he's made the money, but you turn down, I think there's a report of 10 million, say it was $5 million, real money to go play and even develop more. Just, this is what NIL can do for you. Stay in school and continue to develop and get good advice. Like I can't harp it enough. Like
Starting point is 00:31:22 I didn't have that opportunity. I stayed in school because I love school and I wanted to get better. I wasn't getting paid to come back to USC for my fifth year. These kids are getting paid millions of dollars to come back to school. If you ain't going in the top 15, then I don't know. Stay in school. Stay in school. It's not a difficult decision. So that's my piece.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It was certainly a venture. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If someone, if I get pranked all the time, by the way, I get pranked all the time. Not like Shador did publicly. Say you're up. I mean, like it's different, but say you're up for a massive movie, right? Say it's the biggest franchise and you're like, you're, you're, you're going to get it and you get called on one day, right? All the actors get called on a day. It's not like you get a random call. Yeah, this is exactly what I've been through.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Usually what shows and happens. And you're gonna find out and you're on the edge of your seat, like I'm gonna find out, once you get the call, you're like, oh my God, I got it. And you answer and they just basically say, fuck off. Bro. Like, how? I wanna fuck that dude up, man.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I would be pissed because you're literally playing with some emotions. Look, obviously our boy Ashton, your boy, our first guest ever, look he started a show called Punk'd. By the way, I got Punk'd. Well, they came to us early on in Entourage, like season three, four, when we were at our height and they came to Connolly and I and they were basically saying, we want to punk Kevin Dillon. And we were like, that's a really bad idea.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Because number one, Dillon's a little older, like he ain't about that prank culture. He doesn't know what punk is. He's like, coach, he has no idea what punk is. And like, you're gonna try to like tow his car from his house and pretend like he's getting brought up on charges of tax evasion or something. It's not gonna go well. So we basically made like a truce. We all got to, I got everyone together. Guys, prank culture is real. The show punked was huge at the time. Let's all disagree. We are not doing this to each other and take it off the table.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And we all shook hands over ice coffee and looked each other in the eyes and we will never prank each other on punked ever. And I think it was the best move we ever did. Dylan ain't about that prank culture shit. Did you, did you ever, do you know what happened on my episode of punked? I think it's what happens. See, I don't remember. It was right before the draft.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So it's actually perfect. So I'm at dinner. This was like two, a month before the draft. So it's actually perfect. So I'm at dinner It this was like two a month before the draft so you can imagine like build up Everything we just talked about like the whole process. I'm at dinner in Hollywood and Actually, Josh Richmond is there who? Yeah, that's not coming with Josh. Yeah, Josh Josh can be on the show here soon And those of you don't know Josh. He's incredible, Josh can be on the show here soon. And those of you don't know, Josh, he's incredible. One of my
Starting point is 00:34:06 buddies at the time, maybe someone else and this was already set up Kutcher already. This is where I first met Kutcher. And so the whole premise was I was at dinner, I was going to, you would know the place I was going to the park a lot to get my car valet wasn't drinking or anything. And an escort came out of the parking lot basically remember this basically i'm picking up an escort and to take her home so yeah it's it's see i'm laughing that's so i'm laughing it's funny i was shitting my pants yeah so i go i go so me and my buddy brawn and uh
Starting point is 00:34:40 we go out we pull up the car and i'm in the car and she comes out of nowhere and you know, she's dressed like an escort and she just starts, you know, kind of flirting like, Hey, blah, blah, blah. Like, Hey, what are you doing? This and that. And like within 60 seconds, sirens pull up out of nowhere, dude, I, I, I might've shit my pants or piss my pants. I was like my entire NFL careers. Yeah. I was like, my entire NFL career is over. Yeah, I'm like, I'm done. I didn't think anything of it. And I'm thinking like, one, I haven't done it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I didn't, by the way, I like, you could watch the whole thing. Like they couldn't even edit it because I didn't even say anything. Like I was like, I kind of flirted a little bit, but nothing like I didn't give her. I didn't give any money. I didn't do anything. And the cops came, got me out of the car, hands on the hood. I had
Starting point is 00:35:26 I had a like a hoodie on with a beanie guy kind of look like stupid. I'm like, what the fuck am I? And it was in a court. It was good cop bad cop. So so right. Should we let go? No, I the bad cop was like, all right, like whatever being a total asshole. The good cop was like, hey, you know, like, hey, I know how, I know, he was like a good cop. Like, I know you are a man, you're QB, like, dude, let's try to figure this out. It was just back and forth. And I'm like, so anyway, long story short,
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm like, dude, I'm about to get drafted my whole life. I can't do this. And like, it wasn't me. I threw my boy under the bus. I said it was my boy. He was there. He was like, he's the one that like, and he, and it's, it's odd.
Starting point is 00:36:04 What do you have taken the rap for you, you think, if that was real? Not that, like, if you were really being set like, he's the one that like, and he, and it's, it's all, do you have taken the rap for you? You think if that was real, not that, like if you were really being set up, let's say, if it wasn't punked, if it was like some devious anyway, trying to mess with your career, so do you think he would have took the bullet for you? Oh, for sure. So we're in the, they, they had a van and they had all this surveillance and they're like, no, look, I'm like, I'm like, I didn't even do anything. I didn't even give her my, oh no, but we saw you. I'm like, I didn't, I was like, it's entrapment. I was freaking out dude. And I said him, no, look, I'm like, I'm like, I didn't even do anything. I didn't even give him a, oh no, but we saw you. I'm like, I didn't, I was like, it's entrapment, it's entrapment.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I was freaking out, dude. And I said him, I can't do it. If I go, like I'm screwed. I was like, almost started crying. And then, you know, fast forward, it's actually hilarious. Just Kutcher comes running now. And I was like, you mother, dude, I thought I was gone.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Here's the difference. Now we're over here sitting and talking about how funny pranking people are. Here's the difference. That we're over here sitting and talking about how funny pranking people are. Here's the difference. That was your boy pranking you. And if you truly hated it, you could have said, I'm not signing, you're not airing that. And you could have not signed off on it. It would have never seen the light of day. Right. And that was your boy who did it. So that's the difference. That's what we're talking about here. It's like, yes, he's technically doing it for views. Ashton was making a show. But again, you had the right to say, no, don't air this.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And you guys were friends. He was really doing it to his friends. I don't even remember. I don't remember. Go watch that on YouTube. Oh, dude, we got to pull that clip. It was hilarious, dude. I thought my life was over, man.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I was totally like, you can't you know who I am. That could your, uh, all time adventures story. Cause I think we're going to do some all time adventures. Now you could have just used that one. Cause that was an adventure, but it is now time for all time adventures driven by Nissan. Take adventures to new heights in the all new 20, 25 Nissan Armada. Go to Nissan USA.com slash Armada to learn more. Every week we kind of talk about an adventure either on the field, off the field, on set. You just told a great story, Matt, but I have a good one today and I can try and keep it quick. Do you want me to go first? Yeah, go for it. Okay. So I'm going back to 2008 filming Entourage. We were planning to do an episode at the Cannes Film Festival. And similarly, how we always did it, we were actually going to shoot at the on the red carpet at the Cannes Film Festival. So there's no recreation here. This is the real deal. We have one shot
Starting point is 00:38:15 at this. I had never left the country at that point. 26 years old. I hadn't even been to Canada, let alone France. I finally go like three months before when we knew I get my passport. I had it in an envelope. I put it in my spot that I keep stuff and didn't think about it again. Go about shooting for three months. Now we're like two days away from our flights, a solid 48 hours. I'm like, and I say to myself, let me go find my passport. I'm starting to pack. Let me get my stuff together. I go and look for my passport and I can't find it. It's not in the spot. That's a lonely feeling.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So now I'm like real, I'm like, I'm not nervous yet, but I start really looking through everything. Now I'm four hours in and I can't find it. So I start notifying people in production, like, hey guys, I can't find my passport. They were so freaked out. They sent every PA in production, they sent eight people to my house to search.
Starting point is 00:39:10 They basically sent over a search party, no passport. They went to my trailer on set. Well, maybe you left it, they searched my trailer, no passport. So now, and we have to film the next day, we're leaving the day after that. So what they had to do for me, and this probably cost thousands of dollars,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I had to go down to the federal building, downtown LA, and there's a line every day of people trying to expedite passports, like hundreds of people. I don't know what they paid, I don't know if they called in a politician. I skipped the line and they expedited my passport in 20 hours. I got it three hours before we left for the airport.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I got it right before we were leaving for the airport. And they didn't even let me hold it. One of our producers took the passport like I was a 10 year old. So did you ever find the passport? So it ended up working out. I get to France, we film it. But six months later, I decide,
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'm like, I need a new washer and dryer. They take out the old washer dryer. Where I put it was my spot was a shelf above the washer and dryer. It somehow fell off there and was behind the washer dryer. No one thought to look behind the washer dryer. So it's a story with a fact that they pulled the strings like that to get a passport in 24 hours is, is you have to know something. Homeland security is involved. You have to know, you have to make a call and that's a big favor. And at one point, and Doug Allen has even said this, basically I wasn't going to be in the episode if they couldn't figure the passport out. Turtle had to stay home because he had a fever. That was going to be the storyline. That would have been the worst to France. So that's my, that's my all time adventure.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Anytime we go out of the country, I'm always just like, dude, double check, double check, double check. Just real quick on the draft. And I know we're closing it up, but I want to give people a little bit of an insight of kind of what happens with the, with the trades and what happened to me. So I ended up getting picked tenth overall to Arizona like a lot of these draft picks I I never spoke to Arizona at all in the process because I don't think they thought I would be there at 10 So I just found this out in
Starting point is 00:41:17 December real quick painting the picture 3 to Tennessee 4 to New York 7 to Oakland And then after that maybe 11 to Denver were like the spots for me picture, three to Tennessee, four to New York, seven to Oakland. And then after that, maybe 11 to Denver were like the spots for me. Mario Williams went one, Reggie went two. So this is what happened the night before the draft. There's a lot of wheeling and dealing and you see, and you see this when you're on the draft, the trades, this is kind of goes down. So I get a call from Norn Chow the night before the draft, Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He's the OC, Jeff Fisher's the head coach, USC guy, Matt, sorry, we're going with Vince Young tomorrow. Um, you know, this was an owner decision. The owner wanted to draft Vince Young. Fine. Love Vince, whatever. So I knew I wasn't going to Tennessee before the draft even happened. So I know it's not top three. The next pick was the Jets, which was fairly likey. They were like the next Joe Namath and Hollywood mad and this and that. And I did a private workout with them. I did all I met with the Jets more than any team at four. Yeah, at four. They picked a break a shot Ferguson staple on the line. Great solid pick left tackle, whatever. After that, I was the last to go in the green room, which felt like hours. After that,
Starting point is 00:42:22 it was Oakland at seven. If it wasn't Oakland, we didn't kind of know where. So I just found this out in December. You literally found this out in December? So six months ago? Yeah, so Oakland. So the strength coach for UNLV. Yeah, the strength coach for UNLV, I think was on that staff for the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Art Shell and those guys. I met with Al Davis in the draft process and he said, hey man, which was really cool. And he was like, if you're there at seven, I don't think you will be, but man, it'd be tough to pass on you. So I thought, okay, seven might happen. Oakland would be sick. I grew up watching the Raiders, whatever. I found out just 19 years post-draft that they were picking me up until like a minute, say a minute left on the clock or two minutes left on the clock. And then that time was 10 minutes. Like they were almost ready to call it in at that. You're calling it in, picking up the phone. And the story goes, and whoever's listening, maybe
Starting point is 00:43:12 they can correct me, but the story goes, what I was told was at the last second, a minute, Al Davis goes, what about that Michael Huff kid from Texas? Who just won the Jim Thorpe and, and that was it. And that's how it happened? And they said that you could hear a pin drop in that room. They were all dead set on drafting me. And everyone in that room was like silent. Al Davis said, yeah, let's take Michael Huff.
Starting point is 00:43:38 That was it. And I was like, I just, I've been getting goosebumps. I just found out about this in December. The coach was like, dude, did you ever hear that story? I'm like, no. So, okay, so that's one, that's wild. Think about just, you always think about how things could happen if change,
Starting point is 00:43:52 if you go here, you go there, whatever. It's probably better you didn't hear that till 20 years later. Well, no, so then the next adventure story was at nine, Buffalo picked at nine and apparently Denver at 11 or 12, 11, was trying to trade up with Buffalo at nine to get me at nine. Buffalo, I think, backed out of the trade late again.
Starting point is 00:44:15 They were, I think Buffalo took Dante Whitner, they took the safety Dante Whitner. So there was a trade for me to go to Denver at nine, which fell through Arizona. Arizona took me at 10. Denver took Jay Cutler. So Denver was going to take me or Cutler, whoever fell to them. I think they tried to trade up to get me a nine and then that didn't happen. They were like, all right, we'll take liner or Cutler, whoever's there. And then if we were both there, I don't know where I was on the draft board. But that's how that's how my draft day went after post.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And all of that, I never met with Arizona. That's what I was going to say. How what what contact did you was Arizona even on your radar? Obviously, they needed a quarterback. But were you thinking you didn't even meet with them like, no. Well, they had Kurt Warner. Right. Met with I met. So at the draft or at the combine, they have, you've seen some of these videos come out now.
Starting point is 00:45:10 They have your like 10 minute meeting with the whole brass in like a hotel room, right, or whatever. Those are the ones you start, that's the one where they grill you and it is like, you're there sitting there like, you just gotta get through it, dude, it's tough. And then sitting there like you just got to get through it. It's tough. And then they have like kind of like speed dating out in the middle where like you can just coaches can pull you aside.
Starting point is 00:45:30 You got a minute. Like it's like this like in a banquet room, like you just you just meet people like, oh hey Jerry, what's up man? I'm QB coach for Arizona. Nice to meet you. You might talk a little ball for a minute and then you just kind of move on like it. That could be enough of a meeting to say, Hey, that's what I had a great kid. It was coach Cruz, Cruz, who was my QB coach at Arizona.
Starting point is 00:45:49 The time we sat and we met for like a minute or two, just talked a little shop. Like it was cool. Like he was like, I don't think you're going to be there, but you know, hell of a player, like awesome. It was just kind of like that. It's kind of just a very informal quick passing. And that's, that's the extent of that. So for everybody that watches the draft,
Starting point is 00:46:07 there's a lot of shit that goes on behind the scenes. It's pretty freaking wild. It does, there are a lot of similarities with the draft and you really made me think about it when you just mentioned if someone would have pranked me, say I'm up for a Marvel movie or something, right? Yeah, like Transformers. Because with acting stuff, specifically too,
Starting point is 00:46:25 with television more than anything, but it is lists. It's a, hey, you're in the top three. You start off in the top 10, and then they whittle it down. You're even seeing it with James Bond now, right? Amazon's going to do the James Bond franchise. They have to pick a new Bond. And it's already like, it's Henry Cavill, this guy, like it's yourself,
Starting point is 00:46:47 there's already a list compiled, but what I'm getting at is sometimes you hear from months in the media, oh, it's this list, or I'm hearing from my agents, it's down to you and these two guys, and then they announce the casting, and it's a guy that was never mentioned to be in the race at all.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Right. And you're totally shocked. It's crazy man. It's crazy. The draft is wild and I'm, yeah, it's just wild. But anyway, post-draft recap, good luck to all the guys who got drafted. If you ever prank again, someone's going to fucking beat your ass. Take it easy.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Take it easy on the pranks. All right. We're going to come, we'll come right back with our Wendy's flavor of the week. All right. It's now time for the flavor of the week presented by Wendy's clock in for sweet treat time with Wendy's classic frosty. Get one now. We had a chance in Green Bay to sample just about every frosty they had and strawberry frosty swirl was my favorite. That one was legit. You can't have one bite. I told myself I wasn't going to eat it and I had like three bites of all of their flavors. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And I feel like Rob Stone put a bunch down too. He was like going for it. The brownie batter frosty swirl was fire. And normally I'm a caramel guy. Well, each week we try to do a flavor of the week. And obviously sports is tough right now because so many moving parts. But I really wanted to highlight a flavor of the week in, in our very own entertainment business, specifically the movie business.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Okay. Sinners, which was another hot topic last week about, you know, what determines it being a success and how much money it needs to earn. Right now, as we tape this, it's at 123 million domestic, 40 million worldwide. So 163 million total. It's on track to just continue a run. And the way they did it, Matt, what I love about look, it's, it's hard to get anyone to go to a movie these days. It just is, you know, it's one thing when it's Barbie or Oppenheimer or Marvel or Star Wars, because it's going off of this IP.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Everyone knows it feels like an event, even without trying to make it an event, you're more likely to get people to go. And even that stuff is down to some degree, right? Except from Barbie and Oppenheimer last year. Sinners, and by the full disclosure, haven't seen it yet. I cannot wait to see it.
Starting point is 00:49:07 To make a movie, an original movie, one that is not based off anything, feel like an event, is damn near impossible these days. And what they did, what Ryan Cooler, Michael B. Jordan, and everyone involved did was they shot it in film. I know we don't even talk about film much anymore. Entourage was so old. Entourage used to shoot on film when it first started.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Oh, like film. Just a different look, right? Film stock gives you a different look. It's what all movies used to be shot on. And they shot it in IMAX, which I believe is the future of getting people off their asses and out of their houses to go see movies. So to take an original movie that's not based off anything and make it feel like an event
Starting point is 00:49:50 and now the people are showing up, I just think that it's a breath of fresh air and hope for a business that really has not been able to find a way to do that. I was gonna say, do you think that's, well, one, and you have massive, like Haley, Haley Steinfeld's in it, Michael B. Jordan, and I think that's, it's, well one, and you have massive like Haley, Haley Steinfeld's in it, Michael B. Jordan, and I think the marketing around it
Starting point is 00:50:07 was really good. The production around it was great. And I haven't seen it yet either. Do you think it's, there's a shift in how movies are gonna be made? I think, I think, yes. And what I think it has to really come to, whether it's the filmmaker or the studio,
Starting point is 00:50:25 yes, like having to figure out a way to make it feel special. You used to be able to just make a good movie and say, hey, like here's good will hunting, right? Here's a good movie, everyone's going to the theater. I think if like good will hunting comes out today, it's still beloved and wins awards and most people are probably watching it at home.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah, what is the hook to get people off their couch to go into a theater and enjoy the experience, right? Because it's an experience. To literally feel like if you don't see it this way and in theaters, you really are missing the whole movie. If you stay home to watch it, it will still be good, but you are actually missing, you're not getting the full experience. It's like going on a roller coaster, but hey, we're going gonna go half speed on the roller coaster. Yeah, that makes sense. I've been to a couple of movies this year. And again, it's phases, right?
Starting point is 00:51:11 When we have little kids, anytime there's an anime, like that's a reason, but like I kind of feel like it's making a comeback. A theater just opened back up, got shut down right before it was an Arclight. So it was a big brand, whatever, a big company and got shut down. COVID, it was an Arclight, so it was a big brand, whatever, a big company, and got shut down. COVID, it was, we were all, so they just,
Starting point is 00:51:30 I think it's cinema, it's cinema something now or whatever, but it's back and it's booming over there. Dude, people are in and out going, so like, I don't know. I feel like people have lost, like missed that a little bit to like go out and have like, go out to a movie with your family, go see it. The problem is, it's just not, great movies just haven't been made. out to a movie with your family, go see it. The problem is it's just not great movies just haven't been made.
Starting point is 00:51:46 I think this to your point, Sinners is obviously a proof that it's become a really good movie. I'm gonna go see it. I can't wait to see it. Yeah, that's the one. Go see it and then my thoughts to all young filmmakers or whatever, if you're listening to this
Starting point is 00:51:59 and you're trying to think how you could get people to go see a movie, think about the thought that Cooler put into how we're gonna get people to go see this thing. Think about the thought that Coolger put into how we're going to get people to go see this thing. And maybe get Michael B. Jordan since he's a star. It certainly helps. Yes. That's like a given. You have to have a star that's not going anywhere because that more also has to do with the foreign sales. And that's the other thing. It's putting up money foreign, which is also a very difficult thing to do. So that's my flavor of the week. Thank you. Omar. My boy boy Omar Miller's in that. Omar Miller's in everything.
Starting point is 00:52:28 He's awesome. We got to get him on the show. You know what? That's a great call. That's a great one. Because he goes back. He's been around for a while and he's still doing his job. He's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Let's reach out to Omar. And by the way, second place on my flavor of the week was Shaq accepting the GM job at Sacramento State. Don't quite know what it means, but is he just evaluating talent? His kid's playing basketball there, that's why. Okay, but he doesn't need to do, Shaq, he doesn't need to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:55 He must want to do it. He's gonna do it until his son is gone. Right, but it's not like saying like, hey, my son will only go here if I'm the GM. You think Shaq's saying that? No, his son has already committed there. He's probably signed on to help them with some, you know, money stuff, NIL stuff, like give them more opportunity. Like, yeah, I mean, and to be closer to his kid. Like, that's like, look at Dion. I mean, Dion's a head coach, but
Starting point is 00:53:22 like, yeah, there's no other reason. Like once his kid leaves, like he's not gonna stay on and be the GM for the Sac State. That's just like a, hey, Shaq, we'll make you this title. You know, here's your involvement. And Shaq's a business man. Shaq will be great. Shaq's right here. Here's how I can help, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:37 It's great, it's awesome. But I don't think there's much more to it than that. We're talking about Shaq these days once a week. So good stuff. That was my number two. And let's do some mailbag stuff. I typically don't want to read anyone from Boston sending us an email with a question. No, I'll read it. I'll read it because I could relate to this one a little bit. This is Jeff from Boston. He says, guys, I got a dilemma and I could use your help with,
Starting point is 00:54:02 I am the one who scouts out our TV night for my wife And I normally I go find the show watch the first 10 minutes if I think she'll like it I stop watching and we start watching together however She was away. I started the first four episodes of Mob land and now I cannot go back The show is so good and she likes Tom Hardy, do I act like I haven't seen it and re-watch it with her or do I come clean and still re-watch with her?
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's a tough one. I can't believe it. I'm dealing with this currently at the moment. Yeah, like what happens with you and Josie if you jump ahead on a show or if she jumps ahead on a show or? If I, if, well. Cause you travel a lot. You can watch a lot of TV on this. you jump ahead on the show or if she jumps ahead on the show or if I if well because you travel a lot you can watch TV well if I jump ahead on a show she
Starting point is 00:54:50 gets mad at me if she jumps ahead on a show I'm don't care and I'll just catch up so my one thing is you can't you can't lie to your wife so you gotta just say hey babe catch up I won't watch just catch up. But the problem is, and this is the problem is it'll take my wife three weeks to watch four episodes. She doesn't give a shit. She'll just be like, Hey, okay. I'm like, did you watch it? Well, when did I have time to watch babe? Like I'm feeding the baby. Okay. Well, then can I watch more? I'm not going to wait for you. So there is a banter back and forth. I think you got to give your, uh, give your wife a chance to catch up.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I can't rewatch anything. Like we know that from earlier. Yeah, dude. I'm not going to read. If I watched an episode last night and she wants to watch the same one tonight, I'm not going to do it. But to her credit, she will rewatch something if I'm, if she's like, Oh, go ahead and rewatch it again.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Like, I'm just like, no, I'm good. So yeah, the closest we came, because when I was she's like, oh, go ahead and rewatch it again. Like, I'm just like, no, I'm good. So. Yeah, the closest we came, because when I was just in LA, when we were doing podcast stuff in the studio, is when the White Lotus finale aired. And I'm like, babe, I can't wait because the internet will spoil it.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So we actually watched it separately, but we kind of timed it out together a little bit. I think this one, normally I'm a big come clean guy, like come clean. You're going to rewatch four episodes. Well, no, I'm saying normally I am. No, I know. In this case, however, and it sucks that she likes Tom Hardy because she might find this on her own. I think you just roll the dice that she might not ever stumble upon. And if she does, you just say, Oh, I watched it. I just didn't think you would like it.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And then you're in on a rewatch. Then you got no choice. But there is a good chance she doesn't stumble on this. I don't think it's that big of an offense. Yeah, no, I don't think it's that big of an offense. But if at all you gotta come clean and just let her go, that's my advice, because if not, you're sleeping on the couch.
Starting point is 00:56:41 But then you're like off balance then. Now she's watching a show you've already watched and then you might be like, then you're just off balance then. Now she's watching a show you've already watched and then you might be like, then you're just off balance with your TV watching. But I also think there's some shows, there's some shows that like you start watching and you're like, she's like, I'm good or I'm not that into it or you can keep watching,
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'll watch something else or maybe it's like, hey, do you wanna watch this? Like we, like we get easy, I get easily distracted like with shows. Like I can watch four, I mean I don't, but I can watch four different shows at the same time, all in different like, one is with her, one's when I travel, one's like if I'm doing the dream
Starting point is 00:57:17 for you with the baby, I'll throw on my Netflix right here and just watch on the phone while, like so like I just find time. But yeah, it's very hard with a lot of kids to, to be able to lay in bed at the same time, not doing anything else and watch a show. So yeah, good night to you. Try that. That's my advice. Deny till they try. Um, all right. You want to take the second one bag? Yeah. Brian from Arlington, Virginia. Uh, my commanders are moving closer to a return to RFK Stadium or a refurbished version of it.
Starting point is 00:57:48 If you guys could bring back a stadium from the past, what would you go with? Curious your thoughts, because you might have played in. Yeah, I mean, I think the one I think one that stands out is candlestick up in San Fran. You played in candlestick. I played in candlestick. My rookie year was ball and actually I hurt my shoulder toward the end of that game, but I Was a Montana fan these see I was actually both Montana and Steve Young so Honestly, the the stadium was shit the field was shit. It was so it was shit, but it was historic
Starting point is 00:58:19 You know, so I think just going back and looking like damn there was a lot of history and the fact that I got to play in that Was pretty cool It was historic, you know? So I think just going back and looking like, damn, there was a lot of history. And the fact that I got to play in that was pretty cool. Candlestick, I think. Candlestick had a lot of aura to it. Was one of the biggest mistakes in football, playing football with the baseball diamond involved. Well, dude, I did that in Oakland.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Is that one of the biggest mistakes that football has ever made? It's, I did that in Oakland with the raiders and the A's it was awful Brutal right? Oh, it was not the best way to play football by one stretch one. It's a I mean, okay That's why they left Oakland I mean the stadium was awful and you feel bad for the fans, but the stadium was so bad Playing football in a baseball stadium based on where all this, it's just terrible. And like the dirt, it just sucked, dude. Like you had to like wear different cleats
Starting point is 00:59:10 and you had to be always be careful. Like, oh, remember the dirt's on the 45 yard line. I'm like, this is, I mean, are we, this is embarrassing. So it's almost a different game to like have to prepare. It's, it is, it's for sure is a different feel when you're on that part of the field. No doubt. What do you got, man?
Starting point is 00:59:28 You got to have a couple stadiums. There's an easy one, a layup one, which I'll mention, but we don't have to spend too much time. I have the chair in my right behind me. If you're watching this on, on YouTube, it's a chair from the old Yankee stadium. So the old Yankee stadium truly did have ghosts. I know that's what we have said, and some people don't believe it,
Starting point is 00:59:46 but truly that stadium was just awesome. I could still close my eyes and just like, I can remember the smell. Like you walk in the old Yankee Stadium, first you get hit with a little grass, then you just get hit with beer and mustard smells everywhere, like it smelled like beer and mustard, everything that I remember.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So that's the easy one. But obviously like I never got the chance to go to the Great Western Forum to see the Lakers play. I would love to, but now it's also like a great music venue. So it's still there. That's all it is now. Yeah, that's all it is. I saw a game at the Great Western Forum.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I think I saw a, gosh, I see a Kings game or a Lakers game when I was little. I think it might've been a Kings game, but I mean, talk about- Then there's some great, don't like Pontiac Silverdome where they had like WrestleMania, whatever Astrodome was an absolute bananas thing back in the day. One recent one, I will say, and I'm sure the new, wherever the Warriors play now is awesome, but it just doesn't pop the same way on TV sound wise
Starting point is 01:00:45 that Oracle did. That place, even through the television, and maybe it's because the fans were just on top of you in a different way, and I did go to a game at the Oracle way back when. It was different. Now, the new stadium is awesome in its own right, for sure, but yeah, I was just to say something. Oh, this is what I
Starting point is 01:01:06 want to say. This is not one that I think we necessarily need to bring back, but I think about it all the time. Obviously I live in the suburbs in Cleveland, right? And when I drive this one route to my mother-in-law's house, there's like a restaurant, an ice cream shop, and then it's just kind of like cornfield looking place, right? But if you look on like Google Maps, it gives you the spot. It says way out there, like you look from the map and then out into the cornfield farm,
Starting point is 01:01:35 and it says, oh, historic Richfield Coliseum. The calves used to play at the Richfield Coliseum, Matt in the middle of like nowhere. It's hard to imagine that 20,000 people used to show up to this place, but what's even cooler about it is it's where the one of the most famous, if not the most famous shot in basketball history, Jordan over Craig Elo happened. So part of me wants to get the blueprints to the old Richfield Coliseum from City Hall.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I don't know if I have to rent the fucking tractor. And I wanna drive out there and I wanna find the exact spot in the earth where Jordan hit that shot over Craig Elo. I wanna bring a little hoop and I wanna redo it. I was like, put a little pop a shot, that'd be great. Yes, put a pop a shot and redo it. So that's one that I thought would be cool just
Starting point is 01:02:25 to bring back just to see. Uh, it's just crazy to think that Michael Jordan, you need to tell me Jordan hit that shot way out there in the woods in the middle of nothing. So good question, Brian from Arlington, Virginia. Um, Maddie, all right, brother, stuff's going on at your house. It seems like it's quieting down, but, uh, I'm going to see you in New York, right? We're going to spend a little time in New York. I'm spending a little time in New York, man. Get to see you twice in two weeks. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:51 It's a beautiful thing. Before you know it, you'll be on the West Coast. Yay. Yay. Thanks everybody for listening. Don't forget to like and subscribe, do all that good stuff and we'll catch you next week. Peace.

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