Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Super Bowl is Set, Eliminate the Tush Push, Most Tortured Fans & Austin Reaves Joins!

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

We have our Super Bowl! Matt and Jerry start discussing Eagles vs Chiefs including why the Tush Push has got to go, why KC should be more appreciated than they are and why Bills fans are the most tortured fans in all of sports.  Plus, Lakers shooting guard Austin Reaves joins the guys talking about his desire to become a 2-sport athlete, how he got his own shoe and what it was LeBron said to him that created their famous meme.  And finally, by this time next week, Matt will have a new baby in the house! In honor of this, the guys give their all-time favorite TV parents in today’s edition of Dynamic Duos.  New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/)      A big thank you to our sponsor:    Wendy’s    Pick between a Classic or Spicy Chicken Sandwich, Hot and Juicy Dave’s Single, or 10 pc Nuggs as part of Wendy’s 2 for $7 deal.   https://order.wendys.com/category/129/meal-deals?lang=en_US  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Can I pitch you something? Because I do love the Hillbilly bogey shoe. And we talked about golf. Could we put some spikes on that bad boy and take it out to the course? Oh, you know the crazy part. They sent me some spikes to that you can put into them. So I wore them. Tell me you went low.

I caught my best round ever. Of course. I shot a 67 in my basketball shoes. No bogeys, five birdies. It was incredible. So is the Hillbilly no bogeys, five birdies. It was incredible. So is the hillbilly no bogeys. All right, welcome to another episode of throwbacks. Of course, I am not alone. I'm always joined by my amazing co-host, Matt Liner, who's got a big, just a lot to unpack with him, both in the sports world and in our personal lives. Lot going on.

I just got a text from Josie, who just, we were just talking. I thought it was like, I was gonna be like, oh shit, dude, she's pissed, but she's not. But we can get into why she just texts me. She just told us about a photo shoot that we have to do in the next 12 days. Okay, well, you have a lot we have to do in the next 12 days Okay. Well, you have a lot of things to do. I got a lot going on buddy

I want to point out before we dive into the things that are truly truly important one of the work things That's important is again. We're gonna be at the Super Bowl. We're gonna be at the red carpet We're doing a throwbacks episode from the Fanatics Super Bowl party in New Orleans. February 8th. I mean, we're starting to get asked like, it doesn't get much better. We don't even know who's going to be there. We just know it's going to be it's going to be like a royal rumble. People just coming down the carpet.

We got asked who's going to be there so many times this week. And we're like, or like, what kind of prep do you do? We're like, we haven't really thought about that yet. We haven't, we don't, we don't know. We're just going to go. We're going to wing it. We're going to wing it. Yeah, but that's, that's the best type of, I think stuff, right? Just like wing it. But yeah, I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be awesome. The who's who party of the

weekend, Superbowl weekend is always a blast. You and I have been to a bunch of Superbowls and whether it's the parties, the people you meet meet the things you get to do But the but for us to be together to do throwbacks on the red carpet. Shout out to Michael Rubin fanatics for Letting us be there. I think we get to go in the party too when we're done We're in the party. Are you are you getting after at this party? Is this one of those things because you you know, like what kind of party guy are you these days at? 44 okay 45. You're very great. You're awesome that you think I'm 40 you know like what kind of party guy are you these days at 44? Okay 45 you're very great. You're awesome that you think I'm 44. So historically I am one of two people at a party. Sometimes and I feel like the Fanatics

Party I'm not saying this in a bad way. But I'm gonna be uncomfortable because I'm gonna be the only, not the only, but a lot of accomplished athletes. Like I'm going to have a little bit of a, what, why am I here? I'm going to get kicked out. I don't belong. Can I, can I stop you for one second? I get, we should do it.

We should, it would be hard to like figure this out. Remember we did in Manhattan beach who would get recognized more. I don't think we do that, but I guarantee you, we'll set the over and under. We'll talk about this next week before. Okay. The over and under of how many people come up to you and say something about Procter or something about Turtle.

I bet that number is super high. Well, I sometimes get uncomfortable at big events like this, so I do one of two things. I either responsibly drink my way through it, right? Like kind of helps get me out of my shell, for lack of a better word. Then I'm like the life of the party. People will invite me to their birthdays after all we got to do. Oh, Jerry, that side of Jerry, or the flip side is I have a couple of drinks and I'm just wall flowering it. I find the spot that's away from everyone.

I post up, hopefully sitting. And it all depends too on like the level of volume. I need to be able to talk and have a little witty repartee and then I'm good at the party. If I can't do that and the music's just, I'm like, I got nothing. I mean, I've seen videos, like they have a DJ, I think sure, like Bieber came out and tried,

I mean, it's like a full day party, like vibe and like you're jamming to music and people. I'm gonna follow your lead because I'm very similar to you. I have a feeling most of the weekend, we're gonna be more the wallflower, like have a couple of drinks, post up and just watch. Are you a wallflower? I can't imagine you as a wall.

I feel like you're social butterfly. No, I'm more of that. It just, it just depends. But I think in this party, I think we should be like, I want to see Jerry Rock. Like I just want to see Jerry Rock. I want to see you in your element. The reason why we've come together

is because of our mid 2000s run. Like, let's be honest. That's like our two worlds collided and I think those two worlds need to collide again. Super Bowl weekend. I will say, I feel like you were, you are, were, are an amazing wingman. Not even for like, let's go hit on chicks like that.

Just like at a party, you know enough people, but you have enough social anxiety that you're not on the dance floor like Frank the Tank. I feel like you're a good wingman at a party. Yeah, for sure. I'm very similar to you. I get like, I'll get, I don't get social anxiety, but I'm much like, I'm not, as I've gotten older,

I found myself not as much as a people person, or I just really enjoy the people that I'm already with. And like, I don't need to, I think that's a great dad thing, right? Like as a dad, it's like, I don't really need to expand my circle of friends. You know, like your kids start playing sports. It's close, close, it gets closer

and it's harder to get, bring more people in. You just buy with people, you know, this party is gonna be different clearly. But yeah, I look, I think, I think we just kind of play it by ear. But I don't think we go in with any type of expectation. I think we just go in and like, if we if we want to go take

a shot, let's fucking rock and take a shot. OK, be open to where the Super Bowl. Yes, and where the fanatics party takes. But anyway, yeah, Super Bowl fanatics red carpet will be there. We can't wait. Question that I'm definitely going to ask some of the people that we that stopped by the throwback spot on

the carpet okay are you okay is it a provable to whatever you refer to it French exit Irish goodbye how do you feel do you get offended like if you and I had a great time for three hours I caught the Houdini but then you turn around and like where's for our I don't. But then you turn around and like, where's Ferrara? I don't know. And then you don't see me till the next day. You mad at me? You texting me like, wow, you don't even know.

My like, oh, he left. Great. No, because I'll do my rule of thumb for me is like, if we go out with a big group, like say locally here, I will say all my friends don't listen to this. I will probably say goodbye to one or two people and be like, yo, I'm leaving in five minutes. I'm just letting you know. And then when I bounce, I bounce.

I don't need to tell the whole group. So for you and I, I already know that's already in your party bag for this. We got that chemistry. We got that QBY receiver chemistry. You know where I went. If it's me and you and a couple dudes at Superbowl and you're like, hey, let me know I'm out in the next 15 and then I'll be like, go. I could care less. But if you leave, if you leave at the Superbowl party without telling me, I'd be like, what the fuck?

Okay. I would. I have no problem bouncing early, but I need to know. There's gonna be a lot going on, so follow along with us. Follow us on At Throwback Show on all social platforms, YouTube especially, who knows, maybe we'll do some live stuff just the week while we're there. But more importantly too, we wanna hear from you guys as well, what's something that we must do? Must being the key word. Something we must do when we're in New Orleans. I've spent some time in New Orleans. I don't know if you have.

I'm gonna gamble my ass off too. Okay. That's a good must. I did a movie for a few weeks in New Orleans and one thing I was told to do which we do, we in the daytime went through a drive-through and got a hurricane drink, and that shit put me out for the day. One, one put me out for the entire day. So we're not doing that. That's when they put 47 different liqueurs in there and you just get hammered off of one sip. We're not doing that, but yeah,

send us your thoughts on what we must do while we're in this room. Look, I think also too, what are some of the stuff, questions you guys want us to ask some of these people? I mean, we're going to get A-list people from all different... Should we do a practice run? Trevor Lawrence walks down the carpet in his cast, right? I saw him at the Super Bowl last year in Vegas.

What kind of shampoo do you use for that flow? Do you think it's the hair that's slowing you down? Like should you cut the hair going into next season? It's worked for some people. Do we want to get a new look for next year? You just got a new head coach, right? New look, new you. Yeah, I think everyone who's listening, throw us question ideas in all of our social media

chat. We check and we love it. Honestly, I would say this, like, everything goes, we're gonna have just fun, like, we don't, we're not gonna really have like this crazy script. It's not gonna be professional. Yeah, we're definitely not gonna be professionals. Well, we got some other, we got some other big stuff going on, Matt, okay?

I don't wanna put you on blast, but we've talked about it on the show before we heard your lovely wife Before who's been on this podcast before? She's a lot more pregnant than she was the last time she's getting uppercutted from all angles. So I'm just getting fucking this is probably the last show Before your baby that's it's imminent, right? So how are you guys feeling knowing that you're about to go from, you know, you have three, Cole's 18 though, so consider him a young.

I mean, this is four. It's four. Yeah, three. But you're gonna have three under five, essentially. Just turned five. Whew. Let me just say all this. We were super excited.

We were back and forth for a long time about having the third baby. Ultimately, this is what we decided. And I think for my wife, especially, she really felt like this would complete our family. And again, I'm all in on that, obviously. She's been a rock star this whole pregnancy. She works, she's just super mom. She's just everything. She's been a rock star this whole pregnancy. She works, she's just super mom.

She's just everything. She's ready. Like we're a couple of days. We're a couple of days away. Like we will have a baby by this time next week. That's for sure. So it's, we're excited. I actually woke up this morning.

I was like, couple more sleeps. Like the kids say, it's happening. So we've just been so busy that it's like, you almost, and with the kids and all that, it's almost like you just, like it creeps up on you and we're like, holy shit, this is happening now. So fired up, we're super excited. She's gonna crush it like she always does.

Her mother, my mother-in-law just came in town. She's the best. She's got a one-way ticket. So she's here. The troops have landed on the beach. We got our name. I mean, we are full. Storming the beaches of Manhattan.

Oh, dude. We're just locked and loaded over here. We are locked and loaded. So I have a few questions for you, though. Yeah, fire them away. You a diaper guy? You a bath guy? You a bath guy? What's your like dad thing?

Like hey, I got with the baby, infant, I got this part. For me, I was a good bath book pajamas, let's go to bed guy. That was, I was good at that part. I gotta be honest, I'm not a big newborn phase guy. I can't. It's fair, it's a fair assessment. I really don't like it. I think I speak for a lot of dads when it comes to that.

That's not, I'm not jumping off a cliff here with that comment, but I just, there's not a lot to do for me and we had issues with both our boys, like with milk and breastfeeding and I'm like, I don't know if I'm telling too much, but whatever, like, so like it was, it was, and we had our, both our boys had severe acid reflux and all that kind of stuff.

It was, but they couldn't sleep on their back. So our two were miserable sleepers for a long time. So like, it was just tough on us where then we've had, obviously they were healthy. Like that was just a small issue, but, and we've had, maybe you guys are the kids, like we have close friends whose babies slept like 10 hours after two months.

And I'm like, I'm like. How annoying is it when you're up all night and you see another couple with a newborn, you're like, oh, how's that newborn sleeping? And you're only hoping to hear that they're as bad as you. And like, oh, this sleeps like nine, 10 hours a night. It's like, you're so. Oh, I'm like, so her and I are like.

Who asked you? Her and I are like, you're psyched. I'm like, what? So her and I are like. Who asked you? Her and I are like, oh my gosh, what if this baby actually sleeps? We have a best friend. We have a best friend. Their baby, I'm probably off some months here, but like say a year old, was sleeping until like 10.30 a.m. Like in bed at seven.

It just wouldn't even get out of bed. And we're like, what? And they're like, yeah, it was amazing. And they had two other kids, it was amazing. We just haven't experienced that, so that's one thing. But the newborn phase, in my opinion, I tell every new dad too, it's like, you're just there for emotional support with your wife,

you're there to go do a lot of things. I'm there probably more with my boys now. Even Cole and my other boys like sports, and we got this and that and I'll take them because really the newborn is pretty easy for the most part during the nights are tough, but during the day it's eat, sleep, eat, sleep, eat, sleep, eat, sleep, shit. And you're just in your, you're on a clock, you know, but that's it. So I am, I am. So you're not diapered back. Oh, I'm also diapered too.

I'm not afraid of that. The problem is, is, you know, we're not finding out if we have a girl, I got no idea how to change a girl diaper. That's so true. I heard front to back, right? Is that what we do? I don't know. Listen, I'm a boy dad, I have two boys.

You have three boys. I don't, I don't know. I don't know. You're gonna have to. A lot of my, like my best friend has three girls. I'm like, dude boys, I don't know. I don't know. You're gonna have to. A lot of my best friend has three girls, and I'm like dude, if I have a girl. I know how to block yourself from getting peed on from a boy.

Like I've gotten good at the fast twitch to not get sprayed in the face. You know how many times I've just literally stuck my hand on there when they're peeing and just like, yeah, just wear it. Or like they got a little poop in the butt, I'm just like, I'll just use my finger, whatever, I'll wipe it.

You just like, it's so, I don't know, with a girl, I feel like I'm just gonna be like, oh my God, like it's so delicate. I'm just like, I'll just use my finger, whatever. I'll wipe it. Like you just like, it's so, I don't know with a girl, I feel like I'm just gonna be like, oh my God, like it's so delicate. I'm so delicate, you know? Like, I don't know. We'll see what happens. But so I'm good on the diaper. I'm good on all that stuff.

None of that bothers me. I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you something about last night. So the conversation in our household now, and a lot of guys are gonna relate to this is, you know, the whole vasectomy thing. Oh. Yeah, so we're done having kids.

Like this is it, right? There's no debate there, we're done. Preach. I don't really wanna get a vasectomy, dude. And this shit kept me up last night for a couple hours. Once, you're probably the same, once my mind starts running on something, I'm just like, I can't, I can't stop.

The silence becomes deafening of your thoughts. And then I'm thinking, and I've talked to a lot of my boys about this, and a lot of my boys are like, dude, it's awkward. I had one time, this doctor was in there with a couple of women and, you know, like, I'm average, you know, I'm average. I'm just sitting there, everything's awkward. I had one time this doctor was in there with a couple women and you know, like, I'm average. You know, I'm average. I'm just sitting there.

Everything's flying around. It's just super uncomfortable. I'm like pissing myself laughing so much because I'm like, oh, I don't want to go through that. Oh, this sounds all terrible. That kept me up. I don't know. I need some advice.

Do I just risk it and not do it? No. Do you want to have seven kids? Do you want to have seven kids? Do you want to have seven children? What are you talking about? I know there's other things you could do, but. That's what she told me this week. I said, well, I'm just not going to do it.

We'll just be safe. And she goes, okay, well, you're going to risk having another one. Yeah. A hundred percent. She is a hundred percent true because you could think she is everything right. And there's terms for this, Matt, slipped one past the goalie. There's terms for this.

And it happens over and over and over again. The bottom line is, is it kept me up this week and I'm gonna find a doctor. I'm gonna delay it as much as possible, but I'm gonna find a doctor and I'm going full anesthesia, knockout, wake me up at 30 minutes. Hey, see if they'll do a twofer. Maybe I'll come, I'll fly out to LA,

we'll do a twofer one, we'll get a discount. You gonna do that and not tell Bree cause that wouldn't go well. Oh no, no, no, I, no, not gonna do all that. So that's where I'm at. I don't know guys, I mean, like, I know I'm in this, I know I'm not alone on this. No. I know I'm not alone on this.

And every guy that, all my buddies that have gotten one, they said it sucks. They're like, it just sucks. It's not giving birth clearly. And I'm not comparing that because that is out of this world. But it's just not ideal. And it's just something about, you know, me just going full like ankles in like straps,

bootstraps and just like, here you go, buddy. And I'm awake. That's the thing. I don't want to be awake while he's up in my nuts. So I got, I got like one or two more and I promise everyone we are going to talk about sports. We're going to talk about what happened this past weekend and going forward. Also, I kind of buried the lead.

We have, we had Charles Barkley on earlier, so you could say we've had the basketball play around, but we also have Austin Reeves joining us from your Los Angeles Lakers. I should have led with that but we just got caught up on some personal stuff so he's going to be joining us right after we wrap up here for a second. Okay you don't know what you're having so I'm sure you've talked names. I don't, I think that girl names are easier to come up with because for me and I don't know now and your two boys have really cool Unique names, but for me you meet a lot of people in your life. So when we were talking about boy names, it's like What about Justin? No, no, it's kidding eighth grade Justin real piece of shit can't do what about every guy every boy guy name

For sure. I was associating with someone or something, so I went with the two names I knew the least about. But then with girl names, I don't really have those strong opinions, like you could pitch me anything and it just sounds better, and I think you could be more adventurous with girl names. It's like, yeah, it's like baby clothes, like girl clothes are so much better.

They're so much better than boy clothes, and I have no experience. But for us, we're all Cs. So we actually made it harder on ourselves that may be easier in some way, but harder because we're all Cs. Cole obviously was the first one. And then when we decided with Kason and Cannon,

we're like, let's just keep it all Cs. So we have, but to your point, we have C names picked out and I'll say this. So Brady Quinn, and Alicia Quinn, great friends, they just had they had a baby a couple weeks ago. And they named their baby boy, Cade. Beautiful baby. Cade Quinn. Yeah, go look at their quarterback somewhere little like everyone's doing well over there. Shout out to Brady and Alicia is their clan of 19 kids.

But Cade, I'll say this, because we're not gonna name our son. Cade was one of our final. Oh, it was like there. And then they made their announcement and it was like you. And Josie was like, we can't name Cade because Alicia and Brady are named after Cade. Yep, it's out.

I told Brady that during the season. I'm like, damn you, dude. We love that name. So we had an alternative that we've always liked. And then the girl, but you're right, the girl names are just more, they're more adventurous, they're more fun. And we'll see, we have a couple lined up for that as well.

And I guess I grew up with a lot of asshole dudes. I'm like, what about Joseph? No, no, can't do, can't do that. There's no, no, this kid owes me money still. When you guys have your third, you know, at some point, because that'll be a whole pod. I feel like that's a perfect segue to talk sports. Have you already thought about,

Nate, I mean, I don't feel like it's ever true. Well, we're all J's, but we didn't do it intentionally. Jacob, James, me, Jerry. It wasn't intentional. Oh, you got to keep it J. You got to keep it J. But I feel like Bree's now at a point where she doesn't know what to say when she's calling for someone. J, J, she's just all over the place. Yeah.

I kind of like having all the same letter. It's kind of cool. Keeps them like a little tribe. All right, well, more to come on that. I look forward to it. And let's just say the Ferraris have their own personal feelings on what's coming. Well, listen, next week we're going to talk about the obvious next week. Super Bowl.

We have a lot to talk about, but I do want to talk about the renovation project that my wife is spearheading at some point. We don't have to do it. You don't have to do it because it's yeah have to do it on this one. Because it's, yeah, that's gonna happen. All right, more on that next week. And it is a fun- Like I said, I'm getting hit with just jabs, just jabs. Boom, boom, boom, all over the place.

Well, this is an interesting weekend, obviously. You know, football's off, we're gonna talk about what happened last week. And then really, there's nothing to do but talk about these two teams for two weeks, which I feel like is a little long. But everyone is talking about the Chiefs being like the number one villain in sports. And if you want to be that if you want to be the champs, you got to beat the champs. And I hear all that and I get it. But I don't also want to lose the fact that they are going for a three-peat, which Mahomes is going to get a lion share

of the credit for, but, and maybe that's fair, but Andy Reid, Chris Jones, you know, Spagnolo. They have the two, I mean, Belichick was great, obviously. And even like McDaniels was, the Patriots, like this is just very similar, right? This is the dynasty. We saw Tom Brady and the Patriots do that for over a decade. They have the two best big game, big moment play callers,

maybe of all time. Think about that. Andy Reid is incredible. And Spagnola, as we've known the last couple of years, it's the play calling in the moments. There's a lot of great play callers out there. There's a lot of on both sides that can get to a certain point.

But then when it's crunch time, and everybody's going to talk about the Blitz, and everybody's talked about that Blitz on Fort Down all week. Should have threw the orbit. Yeah, we don't need to talk about the Blitz. But how many times over the years, or Andy Reid. And like on fourth and short, they don't ever tush push. They get creative in their play calling,

and it's always they always execute. And so that is play calling, elite play calling, in the biggest moments of the biggest games. That is what Mahomes is as well. And that's why you can't really bet against them in this game. And that's why they're all gonna go down. Like I tweeted this out.

I think Andy Reid deserves to be in the conversation of the greatest of all time. If he wins a fourth Super Bowl, I mean, you can compare Belichick Super Bowl that, but for what he's done, it's remarkable. Yeah, that's what I don't want to lose. Like I said, Mahomes will get the lion's share of it because of the position he plays.

And also he's unbelievable. He deserves a lot of the credit, but you know. Do you dislike the Chiefs because of the villain? Because people are tired, people get tired. And I understand that. I appreciate greatness. I appreciate it, but also, I think that's a cool story. Like to put up a team, like it's the ultimate,

if the Eagles win, shout out Andrew Gundling, if the Eagles win, shout out Kevin Hart, then you really, they took down Brady, and then they took down the Homes and the Super Bowl. I think that adds to the Eagles franchise and their fandom. And I think it'll mean even that much more. Every Super Bowl means a lot. But if they could do that, I think it's the ultimate test. Not that you want to see the Chiefs lose, but I loved rooting against the Warriors for LeBron, even though I'm not a Warriors or

a Cavs fan. I'm sure lots of people love rooting against the Yankees. And now your Dodgers have assumed that position, right? So I think it's good when the sport has a dominant team that everyone's just trying to get. It's like a tale older than time, right? Like David vs Goliath. I also don't think, I look at villains and you look at some of those teams

and I feel like a lot of teams, there was someone maybe you didn't like. Maybe there was a villain that played up the personality. But the Warriors like dynasty, it's hard to dislike Steph Curry. Steph Curry was great. Right, but Draymond, they had Draymond. But no one liked Draymond.

Yeah, and you loved him on your team, but you hated him and then as people don't like him, whatever, I like him, I enjoy it as an athlete. But when I look at the Chiefs, and you can't dislike Mahomes in my opinion. Mahomes is a great, and people can talk about him getting calls, that's not him, like Brady got a lot of calls too.

But he's a likable guy, he's a great dude. And if anyone that knows him in the circle, you say like, oh, he's just a normal superstar that just happens to be the best in the world at what he does. Kelsey, who I know a little bit, and people can dislike him for other reasons and this and that,

Kelsey is like the coolest dude in the planet. He's like, he's the coolest dude in the planet. Chris Joe, all of those guys, they don't have unlikable, Andy Reid is the greatest, he's awesome. So for me, that's why I appreciate it. And I of those guys, they don't have unlikable play, Andy Reed is the greatest, he's awesome. So for me, that's why I appreciate it. And I like those guys. It's, you can get tired and you,

I was rooting for Josh Allen and all these things, but at the end of the day, we need to appreciate what we're seeing because it just doesn't happen very often. Well, you teed up perfectly too with the bills. It's kind of a sneak preview maybe, but for our throwback three this week, we're gonna do most tortured fan base franchise specific, not just city.

We haven't even talked about it. They have to be number one. Very possibly. We'll get into it for our throwback three. I saw you tweeted too though. You thought that was a first down, right? I certainly thought that was a first down, right? I Certainly thought that was the first down. I don't know

Why we're still at this place? I'm not saying put a chip in the ball I'm not a chipper not a true like a chipper like a truther but It certainly looked like a first down in the moment I just don't know why we're still doing this left foot right foot bring out I get it like maybe there's not a better way, but. Well, it's evolved. You had chains, which they still have. And then you have the yellow line that's on the visual on the TV.

And then you have replay. And then you have, you know, it's evolved over time, but to still rely on the spot of two guys who had clearly two different big spots by like a half a yard. It just it just I think what bothers people it's just that moment that is the biggest moment. And again that was what 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter a lot happened after that. And I huge that was a momentum. I hate I tweeted what I tweeted because I still think it was huge, that was a momentum swing. I hate, I tweeted what I tweeted because I still think it was a first down, but I hate when people look at one player, two plays,

and that's the game. It doesn't work that way. They tush pushed a million times, they didn't get it on the goal line, they didn't get it. They had other, and that's where the difference between the play calling is, the Chiefs execute those plays when other teams don't, and that is always

the difference between these playoff games. That's the difference between playoff football. The great team will find the way maybe a little help on the, I understand. I get the argument and it's, and, and there's, they're starting to have some stats and facts, you know, obviously backing those, but that didn't decide the game, it didn't. Mahomes made so many plays with his legs. Josh Allen. He's a freak. And Josh Allen did not,

that's usually the guy you would think. Bills missed two, two point conversions, that doesn't help. There was a lot of sloppy things that led to that being the way it, I'm just like, if we could have technology where we could see where Roger Federer. I'm just like, if we could have technology where we could see where Roger Federer's serve hit

to like the centimeter going 140 miles an hour, I just feel like the biggest sport in our country by far could figure something out. But that call was never gonna be overturned because it was called short on the field. And you have to leave it. And there's too many bodies blocking it. And there's too many bodies.

And that's the point. It wasn't, it wasn't blatant, but you felt like his, it could have easily been reversed or it could have easily been, if it would have been called the first down on the field, they would have reviewed it and kept it a first down as well. I don't know. I don't know. As a, as a athlete, a professional athlete, do you, I used to feel like this with like high school

sports and CYO sports. Do you just feel like there's some teams after it happens so many times? Could you have a feeling as a professional athlete in a locker room, just not even superstition, just knowing like, God, we just, this team, they got our fucking number. Like we don't know, does that happen even at that level?

I've felt it on the high school level and below. It doesn't happen. I was gonna say, I felt it in like little league baseball, coaching, like you're just like. Like an error at that moment. Maybe their best player, maybe that best player doesn't show up or how do we get this kid out and you just hope

and you pray, but at the end of the day, you always fall short. It happened to us in a flag football game. It happened to us in high school basketball. You can, it's very similar in the NFL where you don't ever go into that game thinking that's gonna happen. I guarantee that you go into think, hey, we can beat these guys, we're gonna beat these guys. But there is something always during a game

where you're just sitting there saying, it's gonna happen again. And I feel it, it's just gonna happen again. And my homes, this is the problem, and this is gonna be the problem with the Super Bowl. You just, if the Eagles are up three with two minutes left or even the Chiefs are up three with two minutes left, Mahomes is going to do something that's gonna win the game

or ice the game. You do not wanna be in that situation. And that is just easier said than done because they are so great. That's the problem. At some point you think, at some point you think maybe he's gonna to throw a pick. Maybe you get a sack. Maybe there's something that happens, but we just haven't seen it yet. You got to stab him in the heart, shoot him with a silver bullet, chop off

his head, explode, blow his body out. You have to do all those horror movie things to defeat Jason. I do want to say that the Bills Baltimore for that matter. And even, I even put Cincinnati, right? Those are the three, those have, those have elite quarterbacks that you feel like if bro is in the playoff, you know, you feel like, Hey, they make my might make a run. It'll be interesting. The cheese because everybody's talking about, can they chase Brady and can my homes and all this? You have to keep the team together. You have to keep the core pieces.

You have to keep the coaching together. I don't think the Bill's window and no one's saying, I don't think the Bill's window is over because you have an elite player barely in his prime. Josh Allen's what 26 years old. I mean, and my homes is 29, 30. He still has a lot of years left, but the coaching staff, Kelsey might be done after this.

You're gonna, Chiefs are gonna lose some guys and it's gonna be, can they fill that roster? I think I heard Julian Edelman talking about this week because he was a part of that. It's like, it's just gonna come down to, can you replace those guys with other free agents that can do similar? That is not a given.

So enjoy the dynasty while we have it. It won't last forever. And at some point the bills or even the Ravens are going to break through. It's going to, it's going to happen. Just that or when I got a little mad at you on Twitter because, well, you know, I, I throw my feelings out on Twitter and all of you who love to respond to me when I try to make a point of something that annoys me and respond with like cry more, cope harder. Listen, you're all wrong. I think the tush push and I'm sorry, I'm not calling it the brotherly shove. That's a cute name for a play. That tells me that Eagle fans are embarrassed of the play. Tush Push sounds worse. But that's what I mean.

Are we really calling it Tush Push? Eagles fans were like, no, no, it's the Brotherly Shove. It's like, you're only doing that because you know Tush Push is a terrible name for that terrible play and you're trying to make it sound cooler with Tush Push. Listen, I'm all for something works, do it over and over. If I find a play in Madden, I'm gonna do it over and over. Right. I get it. I get it. But for football as a whole, to me as a fan, all right, there's a lot of other people who feel this

way. I think we ought to watch what? Not between the Bills and the Eagles game. What? Eight or nine brotherly shove tush pushes? It's just bad to watch. I find myself checking my phone on like fourth and inches. I'm like, all right, they're gonna just, to me, it's a boring play that has too much of an advantage when you have a 200 and something pound player pushing. Jaylen, all right, sure, Jayalen Hurts happens to be someone who runs it

better than anyone else. The guy squats a billion pounds. I get it. I don't know how that, it's good for football. I'm not even saying it's like a cheat code or why don't you stop it, or why don't you do it. I think it's a horrible play to watch. I'm shocked no one's gotten hurt yet.

And you have freaking Saquon Barkley. I feel like we've complained about the Eagles offense up until this point at times. I feel like give the ball to Saquon. Saquon Barkley has gotten tackled on the one 12 times this year. He did not get the ball the next time. I think Jalen Hurts was four of six

on that play this past weekend. And Josh Allen was two of six. And it decided the game in some ways. this past weekend and Josh Allen was two of six. But. And it decided a game in some ways. I don't, I don't mind it as far as. It's all your fault. I'm mad at you cause you and Reggie did this shit. But we invented it.

We invented it and now we're dealing with it later. By the way, Reggie and I take full credit of inventing the Bush push, Tush push, Brotherly Shove, whatever you want to call it. We started it. Yes. It was illegal back then, right? Technically, you know, there's, there's blurred lines,

like in everything, but, and then he did that. I remember Reggie did that with Matt Stafford in Detroit. And that was, that was the first, we, I imagine we were the first like big play in a big moment where people remember, right? People remember the Bush push. He did it in Detroit with Stafford to win the game at some point, like five or six years later,

I don't know the year, and I remember he and I were texting about it. Did you see that? It was awesome. And then since then, because it's not illegal, Philadelphia is just- They've mastered it. That was, I understand.

Maybe they just eliminate the push and you go back to if you want a QB sneak. Yeah, I'm not saying get rid of the sneak. I think Herbert's been hurt on a QB sneak. Mahomes has been hurt. Mahomes got rolled up on it. Matt Schaub, I played with Matt Schaub in Houston. It was just a normal QB sneak.

He got a Liz Frank on his ankle from Albert Hainsworth. I believe it was, I think we were in Tampa. So I think probably one of the biggest fell on his ankle alignment of all time fractured his ankle. So that's, that's why you don't see the chiefs do it. And that's why the coaching I, I, here was my problem is when you watch that game and you watch Eagles, Eagles have a plan, Eagles are dominant. They get it, I bet 95% of the time, maybe higher, maybe it's 100% success rate. Oh, I guess it wasn't four or six.

Whether you have Saquon Barkley or not, they have dominant interior alignment and they have a quarterback. They have just executed perfectly. The Bills, they just kind of said, hey, Josh, go get us a first. There's not really like when he jumped over and did that, that place scares me. It scared me. And he's so elite. And but that was the difference between the Bills and the Chiefs

in that game was the coaching in those moments where it felt a little lazy from the Bills. It's like, yeah, Josh, go rely on Superman. Also you got James Cook who's getting anything he wanted for most of the game. James Cook was running all over, all over some type of creative play where if you have Josh Allen in the open field at 6'5", 250 who could run, bowl you over with an option to run pass or a James Cook out there,

I just feel like that's a better play for them than every time lining up and trying to get a one yard. When the Chiefs knew exactly and they knew, hey, we know he likes to go to his left or whatever, and they shoved it. I don't have a problem. I don't know if you ban it. I think you tweak.

Maybe you just don't get pushed from behind anymore. And if you wanna go back. Yeah, I don't think ban, I'm not saying ban QB sneak. It is, it is. I'm really not. I'm saying ban the 200 pounds super athletic player just right up behind him, just pushing him ahead. I just think it's a boring play.

Everybody can do it. They just can't. That's the thing. It's not a competitive advantage. They're just better at it than everybody else. To everyone online who is telling me to cry harder or cope harder. Guys, I won money a good

amount of money a mortgage payment on the Eagles okay so I'm not hating on the Eagles this isn't and also I've realized something the Giants are so bad how can I hate on the Eagles or the commanders of the cow like we're nowhere near the Eagles and commanders right now so what is hating on those teams do for me absolutely nothing so I'll bet on them I don't know that was just I just think the Eagles and commanders right now. So what does hating on those teams do for me? Absolutely nothing. So I'll bet on them. I don't know. That was just, I just think you could get rid of it.

I think it could still be very effective, but. I think you can get rid of it. I think you can tweak the rule. I think they will because there's so much backlash. And especially if we see, we're gonna see it eight times in the Super Bowl. Something is gonna have, mark my words, something with the tush push.

I'm not calling brotherly shove, you animals. Something is going to happen. It sounds worse when you, you, a grown man calling it a tush push. Good. I want, I want them to feel uncomfortable. I want everyone to hate it. We're going to take a quick break and come back with Austin Reeves right before we do. But I said it last week, NFL needs a lottery.

Would there be a, look at this weekend. What a perfect weekend. Imagine if you roll out, we're gonna give out the awards. Here's the MVP, here's rookie of the year. Is the Pro Bowl this weekend? Who, exactly, I don't know. Do you know? I think the Pro Bowl games are this weekend.

Could care less. Let's roll out, we're gonna do the NFL lottery and we're gonna give out some awards. Everyone would watch that weekend. Could care less. Let's roll out. We're going to do the NFL lottery and we're going to give out some awards. Everyone would watch that weekend. It'd be something so good to talk about instead of these two teams for the next 12 days. So there we go. Catch it to Goodell, buddy. Yeah, he won't return my calls. All right. We're going to come right back with Austin Reeves from the Los Angeles Lakers. Los Angeles Lakers. This episode is brought to you by Samsung Galaxy. Ever captured a great night video only for it to be ruined by that one noisy talker? With audio erase on the new Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, you can reduce or remove unwanted noise and relive your favorite moments without the distractions.

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All right, I'm pretty excited because obviously I'm a huge basketball nerd. We have our first, not only like just any basketball player, but an L.A. Laker, which is probably making Matt very happy. Austin Reeves, thank you for joining us. Yes. Thanks for coming on, man. Come on. Now you can tell me you're a big Laker. Go ahead. Well, no, no, I would say we did. We did. We had Charles. We had Charles Barkley on very early in the show, which is also- Barkley don't count. He's, which is also counties not at a bar

But Barley doesn't count because I got my I got my Lakers on now, but I'm born and raised I know you're a big Kobe fan. I grew up in Orange County, but I've been a diehard Laker fan since the Showtime Lakers I actually JJ's a buddy of mine. I mean JJ go way back. We came out the same year of college So when he he came out of Duke the same year I came out of USC, he had some great JJ stories, but I will not say it on the pod.

But you ask him. You ask him tomorrow when you see him. I heard you had a couple nights out with Liner back in the day. I definitely will. I'm telling you, it'll be hilarious. How old will he give some? Oh dude, he'll turn red. He'll be like, dude,

no, we're not talking about that. So, but thanks for coming on, man. How's it going? No doubt. Appreciate y'all for having me. Everything's good. Like I said, I got a little round in after practice today. So life can't be any better. I'm going to ask a pretty random question off the gate because I'm a pretty big golf fan myself, right? Do you get in season to play on the road and if you do? How you transport in the sticks does that fall into the equipment managers purview? Like where are your clubs cuz the clubs are like the that's the most important thing went while traveling Yeah, for sure. I just take them to the plane. They put them under the plane. They take them to... So when we get to the hotel, they give us like a ballroom for the food and stuff.

They just take them in there and if I want to go, I go get them and put them back and they'll put them back under the plane. So our equipment people make it very, very easy for me to play a little bit. You're the only one? I was going to gonna say who do you golf with on the road on the team? Well JJ's a big stick. He's not the bug right now but before D-Lo got traded he was the one I played with most. We played I mean probably over 100 rounds together in the last you know year or Jeez. LA's got some amazing golf. When I was, I wasn't doing tons of research because I know a lot about your career, but

when I was looking you up and stuff like that, I'm like, Newark, for a minute there, I'm like, wait a minute, he's from Jersey? I'm like, oh no, that's Newark, Arkansas. You go from there to LA, I'm sure the golf course has probably helped transition you as golf everywhere, but what is that like going from where you grew up and then next thing you know You're playing for your favorite team in LA that just must have been surreal. Yeah, it was crazy The night of the draft when we got the call and what they were like, we'll take you on a two-way You know, it was almost a no-brainer for me, you know, because you said I was a huge Kobe fan.

So therefore I was a Laker fan. And, you know, just having the opportunity to, you know, play for the team I grew up watching the most, you know, was special. And like you said, obviously the golf year round definitely helped the transition. There's a lot of things that I love about LA. There's a couple things I don't want to be in traffic. Traffic is horrible, but like I said, when I'm able to golf year round, you know, you can't beat that. But my transition has been very easy.

I don't do much. I play a lot of golf, play video games and I don't really go out much. So there isn't much difference. Made about three places, my house, the gym, or golf course, and that's it. What, when you, I mean, when you got to LA, obviously it's a big difference from where you grew up. Was there outside of traffic,

because I think everybody kind of understands that when you get there, like, shit man, this traffic is no joke. It takes, you live, you know, 15 minutes, 20 minutes from the arena. It takes you an hour. Was there anything that shocked you when you made the move out to LA or surprised you about the city? Honestly, what surprised me the most is how much I enjoyed it or how much I like really liked it. I'd never been to LA before, you know, literally the day after the draft when I came out here.

I didn't know what to think when I was on the plane ride here. I mean, if you'd asked me 10 days before that, like if I wanted to be in LA, I probably would have been like, eh, I don't know. Like, I've heard a lot of, you know, not so good things about LA,

but ever since I've been here, you know, especially with the basketball side of it, you know, the fans have welcomed me with open arms and treated me, you know, really good since day one. So, like I said, my transition was really good. And, you know, it kind of surprised me how much I enjoyed it. Did you have your, your welcome to the NBA moment moment Matt has a great like welcome to the NFL moment. I'm not an athlete

There's for acting there's no real like welcome to you know, I maybe it's a welcome to Hollywood you go to the wrong party But there's no welcome to acting did you have? Like holy shit. I'm in the NBA right now. Like this is happening. I think the, I was actually telling a story a couple days ago. There's only been one time in my, the whole life of playing basketball where I was like, I don't know if I belong. I don't know if I strip you. Imposter syndrome for a second. The crazy thing was, I wasn't even on the court. I was on the sidelines.

So it was my rookie year in training camp. And LeBron came down and like snaked the ball screen or something and shot like a hook shot over DeAndre Jordan from like the elbow. And they banked in and I was just sitting there like I don't know if I belong to like That's not in your bag. You don't got that. You got but you got a filthy bag, dude You got a nice bag that though. That was that was the one time I was like, but then I quickly realized that that was LeBron and Not many people can do what he did. So That was but that was the one time I was like what the like I couldn't believe it because he shot it over a 7-2 guy the touch was

insane he was going full speed by the time the ball went in the goal he was like in the deep corner so I was like wow I don't know if I belong here. There's, I was telling Jerry, my rookie year, I played Monday night football against the Bears and it was, you're obviously a lot younger, but it was 2006 and I was looking across, it was Brian Erlacher was a middle linebacker. And that was the year they ended up going to the Superbowl. And I just, it was like, I'm walking up and like, you know,

I mean, when you play as an out, you're in a zone, you don't really think about much other than like, for me to play all this, but I'm like, I looked and I kind of made eye contact with him and I'm like, oh, Brian Erlacher's like almost six, five. Like he's a big, by the way, he's an absolute stick on the golf course as well. And I was like, holy shit, like this Monday night football

and I made it and then the following year is my second year. We went up to Baltimore and played Ray Lewis and Ed Reed when they were rolling in that area. That's scary. That was the first time I was on the field where I was actually like, like I hope I don't get hit by somebody in this game. Like that, like it was never really thought about,

that was it. You said, I mean, is there, is there someone, I'm a basketball nerd too, I love basketball. And is there someone you're running on the court I Kyrie had a play like not too long ago where he kind of like crossover like the ball went off his forehead I think he had a little lefty floater and I think they panned to Anthony Edwards and he was just like holy shit is there like someone on the court where you're always just like I

can't believe that dude can do that with the basketball? Um, yeah, I mean, I think there's a couple. Uh, I think the way I think the way Steph shoots the ball is, you know, obviously he's the greatest shooter ever. But, uh, Christmas day, he made a shot in the right corner. I think we were up probably like five at the time or something. And he made a shot in the right corner over LeBron where it didn't even look like he he didn't really have the ball in the right shot pocket. Right. Having his hands right.

And so I was on the opposite block boxing now when he shot it. And I'm looking at it like kind of through the goal. And the whole time, it didn't look like it didn't look good coming off his hand. It didn't look like it was going to go in when it like when it got closer to the rim and gets to the rim and like hits the front of the rim and kind of just rolls in. And we all like in that moment, I think there was a time out afterwards. We all were like, what the like that's not real.

Like real people don't do that. Like he's a he's a different breed. So Kyrie is another one. I mean, and like kd is you know his lane. Yeah, it's the way you can trouble pass shoot like there's there's a handful probably five to ten guys in the league that Are you know on that different just different right? Just a different level? Yeah Yeah, I feel like durant's one of those players I always think like it's so fun when players come from college and they go into the draft and they grow from 6'7". Oh, he's actually 6'9". And Durant, at least in the media, was always one of those dudes like, he's 6'9", he's 6'10".

I'm like, how tall is this dude like really? He's got to be 7''. I went to Cav Suns a couple of days ago and I'm like, I feel like if you cut Jared Allen's hair a little bit, he's like Jared Allen sighs I guess he is you don't realize it How many times have people mentioned to you, you know, you got me you have that famous you and LeBron Yeah, I don't know how often that's come up in your career what your boys or whatever I have a few theories of what you guys are talking about You don't have to say but your reaction was like one of two things. It's either like, I have no idea what you just said, or you're like, I can't do that.

So I actually make that face quite a bit. Right, but he's did so much and you did so little. So me and my brother actually do that a lot. That's amazing. It just happened that the camera caught me in that moment as he was doing that. So I'll give you all the little stories. So we're in Brooklyn playing Nets.

And I think we're up probably like 15, 16. And it's like two minutes left. So this is my rookie year. Frank calls a time hour. So they call the time out. We're running an ATO and he's drawing up a play on the board. We're winning by like 17, two minutes left. Like game's over. So me being a good rookie, I was at the time, like I was locked into the play. Yeah. Don't know if everybody else was. So I was like a big I asked a lot of questions, especially like my rookie year,

because I didn't want to be the guy that messed up. So I was always like, you know, I'm doing this or I'm doing this right. So I asked Frank going out, I was like, I'm doing this. And he was like, yeah. So I don't know if there was like a little dead period of time where there was still some time like coming off the clock before we could inbound it. So I just asked Ron again, I was like, I'm doing this, right? I'm pretty sure he got mine and Russ's spot mixed up

because I wasn't supposed to do anything in the play, which makes sense because my rookie year, I never did anything to other plays. I just stood in the corner and played defense. So, um, I think he had me and Russ's spot. So he was sitting there like doing all the giving you that looked like a lot of Russ stuff that he was doing with his head. I was just like, I don't know what you're talking about. So they just caught me at the right time. And I didn't even know like in the moment I didn't even know anything about it and then I got to my locker and my phone just wouldn't stop buzzing like my old coaches talk

it and I'm like what like I'm trying to shut it off and I look up and I was like oh they got me they got me. That's like the worst thing to be a meme for sure. So we had some fun with it. Didi, Jerry you should tell Austin about your uh your celebrity basketball appearances. Stop. You said you're not an athlete. Stop stop. I'm not an athlete. You gotta. Austin does not want to hear that. He doesn't want to hear any of my celebrity all-star game performances. Uh no I love to play. I'm the dude who shows up at like the charity game and I'm actually pretending like I'm in the NBA and playing hard. I'm slapping the floor Russ I go like Russ Westbrook I go the funny thing is is he actually does there there's video of him like getting the crowd high like talking shit to the guy I'm like what are you doing dude oh hey it's never gonna

happen for me this is the closest I'm gonna get I still play a decent amount of pickup I tell you what though too I'm obsessed with you know shoes obviously for style but like shoes on the court. I gotta say dude I'm about to purchase, I'm about to purchase some of yours. Well first question number one, I love the look but are you a part of the name process? Because the names are a mate. The names are dope of every shoe. How much are you a part of that? Or is that someone behind the scenes? Because the names are great. When you look at the shoe, you're like, Oh, I see that I get that, especially the Valentine's Day one. So I'm not, I'm, I'm not creative enough to boil it down to a certain. So my agent Reggie Barry, he, we actually are picking shoe names right now, which is funny.

He'll send me a list of five to seven or five to three names. And he's like, this is what I think is, you know, fits, you know, the line, the storyline, whatever. And I have to pick from the five to seven seven or whatever they are so like I said, I won't take credit for that because if Us is be like hey name this shoe. I would just be like, I don't know so you so I pulled up You got like year of the dragon. That's my favorite So you you so you aware of these names or he just sends you the names and you just like the way The way they sound and it, it's affordable. These shoes are fire dude. They're dope.

They got great performance reviews too. You got great performance reviews. No, they've been, you know, ever since we signed with them with Rigor, they've been nothing but great, you know, anything I need at any time. And then they've, you know, let us be hands on with basically any process that we wanted to like, like with the, you know, naming of the shoes, color waves. But yeah, no, the the the names always have some type of meaning behind them.

Can I pitch you something? Because I do love the Hillbilly bogey shoe. Right. It's green. It's got some golf. It's got the bullseye. Can I pitch you something? Because I do love the Hillbilly bogey shoe, right? It's green. It's got some golf. It's got the bullseye. And we talked about golf. Could we put some spikes on that bad boy and take it out to the course? They actually sent me the crazy part.

They sent me some spikes to that you can put into them. Right. And so I wore them really bullshit one day when I went to golf. Tell me you went low. I caught my best round ever. Of course. Not an ad right there, this is true. I shot a 67 in my basketball shoes.

No bogeys, five birdies. And it was incredible. So it was the hillbilly, no bogeys. Exactly. What was it like when I can only imagine like having your own signature shoes like it's kind of like dude I made it right like what was it like when you found out that that was all coming together for you? Like you said it was just special you know I like I said was huge Kobe fans so I grew up wearing Kobe's, all the

Kobe's. And then, you know, just having that opportunity to have my own shoe, have the input on, you know, what, you know, even the price and how we can make it affordable for everybody was really special. And, you know, just trying to build that, grow that. But like I said, when that opportunity presented itself, it was a no-brainer and something that we wanted to have fun with and be creative with. We mentioned Hillbilly Bogey,

because obviously you got a great TikTok account, your YouTube channel, I've watched a lot of your stuff, because I consume YouTube golf and golf content, probably all just as much as basketball these days. So way more YouTube golf than I think anything else. Yeah, it's just so addicting. It's the best on the plane. You're on way more planes than me.

I'm sure you're probably downloading and watching. But now we're going to go current active players, not retired players. Who are you going to get on the channel? Who are you calling out? Is there somebody that you either want or could give you a good round? You said you're low 67. I'm sure most NBA players haven't put the time in to get to that level. Who do you want on the channel for a match?

I think the one is Steph. That's where I was going to you were gonna go. Yes. Yeah, I mean, I just know he's a good player. I'd watch that. I wish that was tomorrow. I'd watch that. I mean, I think that that's the... there's a couple other guys. I think it's Chris Paul good. I think Chris Paul can play right. I actually asked him the other day when we played 10 at Tony. He said he hadn't been able to play much this year, but Corey Kisper's good. Um, Doug, me Dermott's good. No Kyle.

Kyle Lowry is really good, which he, he, I say this with all due respect. He's my least favorite player in the NBA because he just like he, he just destroys, yeah, he just kills. Well, I'm a Knicks fan, but also just like, he just does all the things that you scream at the, he makes you scream at your television, which is only because he's a great player. So then when I hear he's good at golf too, I'm like, oh. Austin, have you, have you ever, have you ever watched a game with a, like a sporting, like a football game or something, or a basketball game with an avid fan of their team. Have you ever like, I watched the game with Jerry. How was that experience for you? Cause I can tell

you how my experience was with Jerry. It's chaos. It's literally chaos. Isn't it so funny? Cause I don't know. I don't know if it's like being an athlete. It's weird, right? It's like, why do you care so much? I don't know. It's just so funny to be. He was like, we were at, it's weird, right? It's like, why do you care so much? I don't, it's just so funny to be he was like, we were at we were actually we were doing something for the podcast this summer in New York and it was, or was it the summer? No, it was it was late spring, it was Nick's Pacers second round the game OG Ananobe pulled his hamstring, I remember playoff game, we're doing like some up front for the show. And we're at this like little bar. And it's like, and I'm honestly, I'm like a kid, I'm like, I can't wait. And by the way, we're at this like little bar and it's like, and I'm honestly, I'm like a kid cause I'm like, I can't wait.

And by the way, we had courtside Nick seats that night that we chose that he chose not to go to. Cause I would have missed the entire second quarter. But watching him watch his team play, honestly, dude, it was pure comedy. I was like, why do you get like that? Like I didn't understand it. And he doesn't understand my point of view.

For sure. No, that it's definitely, it's definitely funny. It understand my point of view. For sure. No, that's it. Definitely. It's definitely funny. It's it's chaos. Yeah. Listen, I imagine if, you know, I'm trying to put it in my terms, like if all right, we're going to shoot this movie or this show.

But you guys probably wouldn't even care about that. You guys have seen all the pressure. There's nothing I could say to shake you or make you care more So I can't even put it into like acting terms or something to make you guys Relate, but we care a lot man. It's a good. It's a it's a good thing all the doll of the reason we do it You know the fans are great. How do you how do you like the Intuit dome? It was cool. It was yeah equal which I mean we you know do know do so focus on the game and stuff that you don't really get To see all the stuff that's in the arena. You don't get to go walk around where the concession stands and all that stuff is but

You know, I think the the wall that they do is a good idea It kind of sweet respect that like college atmosphere vibe. So I thought, you know, I thought it was a really, really cool arena. Yeah, I went to a game there a couple, a couple weeks ago, randomly. I'm a Laker fan, but I thought for me just like an in-game experience as a casual fan, it was pretty awesome. Like it was cool. Like you get kind of with the laser shows and just the wall and like everything was state of the art. Is there, is there, we got, you know,

obviously there's some NFL fan base. I always thought like this going up to Seattle was tough. Playing up in Philly is really tough, nasty too. What's the, let's say worst, like worst fan base or like place you really like shit, man. Like I just hate playing there. Is it the garden or Boston? Is it New York?

Is there a place that sticks out? I mean, I think, I mean Boston and New York, but I think that it's not, I think that the fan bases are like, they're so passionate in like really know basketball to where it's like It's like cool. Like you have some fan bases that are just Chaotic that I don't know the game but Those you know fan bases, you know know the game enjoy good basketball and you know, anytime you go, you know Lakers Boston

Staples slash crypto whatever you want to call it is it's gonna be going crazy so I would say those two and also Memphis Memphis gets Memphis gets hectic which grind house yeah so I mean and it's also Memphis is an hour 30 from where I grew up so I feel like anytime anytime we go there I probably know over 75 people there. So it's cool to play there. I feel like they talk the most shit too. They talk the most shit. Right?

Yeah. God, I don't know. Maybe it's always like the games I end up watching, but I feel like they just talk the most. I feel like every team talks shit though, right? Like I guess some are worse than others. I think it was when they had, was it Dylan Brooks I think when he was on their team or whatever right? They just yeah I mean yeah just like dude I mean I love it but I'm just like I feel like

they're just always they're competitors they play hard always yeah no they're a good team for sure. So are you gonna be our first two-sport Deion? Because you're going to go pro in golf at some point, right? It's happening. At least go in the creator classic. You would have won that thing easily. I'm definitely going to try. I've always said it. I've said it since college that, you know, when bad the basketball does stop bouncing,

I want to take a year and a half two years and give everything I got to to golf Because I've never I've never had a lesson wow I never practice I started playing when I was 16 so Even playing that long and you're dry. I mean I know eight eight years 25 That's not that long for golf man man, to be shooting 67s. I think golf is fucking hard for anybody, but a lot of the things that I've talked to guys that are trying to compete in golf, a lot of the things that they talk about that is really hard for them kind of come natural to me. Uh, I have very good hand, eye coordination, um, you know, chipping,

putting putting not as much, but just getting up and down from bad spots is probably something I'm pretty good at because when I started playing golf, I wasn't good at golf, so I was always in bad spots. So, uh, I definitely want definitely want to give it a go. I got faith. If I'm betting man, I'm putting money that... I think we... Romo tried to do it, right? While he was still playing, I think. He was the one current athlete and I think he missed just by a couple of shots.

I think he missed like... He went to like one of the major qualifiers and I think he made like double on 18 went to like a, one of the major qualifiers. And I think he made like double on 18 to miss it by one or something. Yeah. That's gotta be like my, I really like golf. I just don't play. I really like it.

I got a nice set of clubs. Lefty too, right? No, I'm a righty. I'm a righty. Oh, that's right. You're like the lefty sometimes. I golf righty. Right, right. But like my biggest

fear, I'm telling you man, like just thinking about it is like hitting in front of a gallery. It's like my biggest fear. No, it's real. Right? I played in a YouTube like tournament and there was probably three, four thousand people there and I was playing with the, with Garrett Clark, which is probably like one of the biggest YouTube golfers. So he was my partner. So our little gallery we had was, was pretty big. And we go to the first tee and I'm sitting there like, why am I so fucking nervous? Like my hands shaking. Like, so I had already planned it out, like thought it out.

So I I didn't care who they told to tee off first. I was going to tee off first because I went put my ball up before anybody was paying attention. So I teed it up because I knew I was going to be sitting there shaking, trying to put it on the tee. And they lined down the tee box. And I'm just sitting there looking like, y'all don't understand. Like I'm not a professional golfer.

Like this is not, I'm nervous as shit right now. And turned out that that was my best swing all day. I hit a fairway, but it's definitely, it's different for sure. People don't understand. Like you're right there. Like if I was up in a gallery, I'm I swear to God I'm taking somebody out like I'm taking somebody out not on purpose locked in

blast the dude in the arm, dude so you saying that you can relate to a fan that Gets excited about watching athletes do great things that they can't necessarily do So you I mean cuz you guys played in front of thousands, if you total it all up, you're probably damn near a million people that you've played in front of live, right? Yeah. And you're nervous about that.

So what I'm saying is chalk one up for the fans who start crying when OG Ananobe pulls his hamstring, like me. You guys care. I won't lie to you, I'm a fan of Jordan Speed. So I- Yes, you get nervous, right? The anything that you've done watching the Knicks, I've probably yelled. With Jordan?

Missing a putt or something. I've definitely, I'm a fan. So I get it. Yeah. Well, we talked about the shoes which I'm purchasing, but Matt's rubbing it in my face. Because when we're having you on, we're excited to talk about Recover 180 and Matt's like oh I have some I'm like wait a minute dude I got a buck I didn't even put two and two together until I was like oh shit I drink this shit all

it's great I freaking love this stuff it's amazing it's yeah I mean tell us about it like what are you doing with them yeah I mean uh Lance come to us, this has probably been two years ago now with the idea of partnering together and just trying to build something special. And so at first we were like, cool, I had never heard of it. So we were like, just send us some stuff and we'll see where it goes from there. And then we just continued to stay in touch. And obviously the drinks are really good. Yeah. Organic.

So it was just something that, you know, like I said, I wanted to, you know, try to grow with, you know, a bunch of good people. And, you know, it's been nothing but great. You know, I drink them after games before games. Does it fit in the golf cart cup holder? It definitely does. That's my big pet peeve when it don't fit in the golf cart cup holder? It definitely does. That's my big pet peeve when it don't fit in the golf cart cup holder. It's over. The cup holder you can have it wherever.

Awesome. Thank you so much. Good luck with the rest of the season. We're gonna let you go Yeah, and keep keep swinging. I know you're busy with basketball But let's not forget about the little white ball that we like to knock. We should get a round in when, Jerry comes out this way. For sure. Yeah. Let me know. Yeah.

All right. Thank you. I appreciate you, man. Slow down. All right. It's time now for dynamic duos presented by Wendy's two faves for just seven bucks. Gotta be Wendy's. Terms apply. So each week, Matt and I, with throwbacks, we kind of want to pick a duo.

It could be quarterback wide receiver, anything in movies, TV. We're going TV this week. We're going the best duo, mom and dad, television, parents. This could be whatever it means to you. You'd want them to be your parents. They were funny, whatever your criteria is. Quick honorable mentions like the bad parents at like, I don't know if you'd want, I just rewatch Breaking Bad. Don't know if you want Walter and Skylar White as your parents. That's a rough one.

I'm assuming you went, and I have no idea. I'm assuming you went more. Wholesome? Television show. Television, I did go television show. Breaking Bad show. I went sitcom. Oh no, I went sitcom too. So this is, this is going to be good. Do you want to go first? You want me to go? I'll go first. So.

Okay. The greatest night as a childhood watching television was what? TGIF? TGIF. Heck yeah. Thank goodness or thank God, whatever you said, thank God it's Friday. And you had the run of Family Matters. You had the run of Step by Step.

You had the run of Full House. All those shows. I could sing all those songs. I'm going, and this is, it's a little, it's a little different. It's not a mother and father. It's actually three guys. And it's Full house. Okay, and it's Danny Tanner played by the late Bob Saget incredible

Obviously funny great in that great career uncle Jesse and Uncle Joey uncle Jesse John Stamos uncle Joey Gladstone obviously cut it out Dave Coolio And I'm just saying there's a lot of reasons why. Comedy, the show was one of my favorite shows. I had a massive crush on Jodie Sweeten who played Stephanie Tanner. It was the Olsen twins breakout, they were babies on that. Candice Cameron, who I probably had a crush on too

later in life. I mean Aunt Becky, who didn't have a crush on Aunt Becky. Lori Loughlin, eh, a little trouble. A little trouble. A little trouble back in the day. A little history. Not too long ago, but stuff like every, if you say Aunt Becky, everybody's like,

oh, we love Aunt Becky. So I'm going with my favorite TV parents, the trio of dads. Danny Tanner's a widow. He loses his wife in the show and they come in and they take care of the three daughters. Shout out to the three dads. So couple of things there, I love that.

Number one, as a child of a single parent, my dad passed away when I was five. So when Full House comes along, I used to, not that it made me emotional, but I would be like, oh, it would be really cool if one of my uncles and like moved in. To me, that was like the perfect family, right? One parent, but then all this other family help. Number two, also, I think Candace Cameron married Pavel Bure.

Pavel Bure, yeah. Hockey. Yeah, we got a little sports connection. And I got to know Bob Saget really well over the years because of his cameos on Entourage, which a lot of people put Bob Saget's cameos on Entourage up there for their all-time favorite Entourage cameos. I mean, I have one of the famous lines that I have a lot like Tom Brady sucks balls is probably one of the lines that gets said to me most, but second or third is did you just get cock-block blocked by Bob Saget? That comes up all the time. He was the sweetest guy. What made him so dynamic was his stand up

was so much different than that character, right? He was a little irreverent and just, every time I ran into him it was an occasion. So that one meant a lot to me. That's a great one. I did not pick that one because I went with just one that I went with my the first thing that popped in my head when I thought of television parents, the first couple that popped into my head was Phil and Vivian Banks.

Absolutely. That was that was my honorable mention. You know, they took in their troubled nephew from Philly who got into a little trouble. Phil, Uncle Phil was a judge. So look, he had some juice. He could get you out of some situations if you needed it. And they just, him throwing jazz out every episode, it just was the perfect parent balance for a television show. They were funny, scary. Remember the final show when Will Smith stands

or in the empty house. Alone in the house. That's one of the biggest memes on Twitter. By the way, I cried. I literally, I haven't cried in a lot of ending of shows and I don't know how old I was, but I could pull that up on YouTube, watch that clip and start to get teary-eyed.

That was one of the greatest runs. Obviously Will Smith, I mean, just an iconic character, DJ Jazzy Jeff, and then Uncle Phil and Viv. God, what was, what's the sister's name? It's Ashley, young Ashley. Young Ashley, and then no, but older. What's her name? Hillary. Hillary. Hillary. Hillary.

Hillary, yeah. Can't forget Hillary. I mean, yeah. That was on my own. I had her name? Hillary. Hillary. Hillary. Can't forget Hillary. I mean, yeah. That was on my own. I had a cut, that one's great, man. Mike and Carol Brady, Brady Brunch. Sure, I mean, I had Al and Peggy Bundy up there too. Different honorable mention there.

Yeah, I mean, I think they're iconic. Also, fun little fact about the actor who played Uncle Phil, he was also, I'm a Ninja Turtles kid, like the cartoon. He was the voice of Shredder in the Ninja Turtles cartoon. Was he? I didn't know that. Yes, Turtles! He was the voice of Shredder. So, shout out to Uncle Phil and Aunt Viv.

And thank you to Wendy's. That's our dynamic duo. And that leads us right perfectly into our Throwback 3. It's kind of a, a feel bad for this one, honestly. I know because we're just gonna be ripping on fan bases. This week our throwback three is the top three most tortured fan bases in any sport. Doesn't have to be football, but it's any sport. So I've had some time to think and there's a lot. There's a lot that didn't make that you can go this many directions with torture.

I'm excited. I think you can go in a lot of different directions, but I'm excited to get what people think too, because normally with these we can send out and there's a lot of debate and all that, but I think we'll get a lot of these fans and these fan bases giving us all the reasons why they're tortured and they hate their sports teams,

but they love them at the same time and while they're never gonna win so you got it man you want to fire away yeah and honestly I had I'm pretty clear on my number two and number one number three was the toughest and for me it was between the Jets and the Lions I went with the Lions because they're just better right now and that was a really tough loss. You can make the argument that the Jets really have the name at the Super Bowl and, you know, a little Vinny Testaverde run and then the two Mark Sanchez AFC Championship appearances is really the only thing they've had in franchise history.

And that franchise, those fans are star. But with the Lions, I just think it's different. They, you know, from the Thanksgiving games, the run of no playoff appearances, even with Stafford, to me, number three, is the Detroit Lions. And I think the fan base, one of the fan bases I'm rooting the most for success,

because I like a lot of Detroit fans. So not Detroit based, but just the Lions fans in particular. Lions specific. Yeah, I mean, they're, they were, you know, they're the one of the oldest franchises. That's the only one around 1930. They've never made it to a Super Bowl. So it's almost, it'll be almost a hundred years. And boy, do they want it. I put Cincinnati as three and I went more sport in general, just kind of like overall when you think of Cincinnati,

the last championship was in 90 and that was the Cincinnati Reds. That's one of my favorite baseball teams of all time. Bengals, 0-3 in the Super Bowl. They've only been three times, they've never won. And we look at the Bengals, you look at now they have, I always base it around, you have Joe Burrow, you have one of the best. What are you gonna do with Joe Burrow? But now you play in an era where you have to

defeat Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. It's just, it's a really tough time. I mean, that Rams Super Bowl was their moment. They should, they really. Aaron Donald finishes it off, and that was a chance they had. You go back to some of, you know, Carson Palmer, who a good friend I played with, you know,

he was number one pick, great player. Pete Rose, rest in peace, banned from baseball, but was like one of the most iconic. I'm just saying like, you go back and you're like, man. Akili Smith, remember Akili Smith? Yeah, Akili Smith. Akili Smith's son is a baller. He's a-

I'm sure. Yeah, he's got, I think he committed to Oregon. So he and Cole know each other around the same age. But yeah, just Cincinnati. I think when you look at it, you just, you're like, eh, the Reds haven't been good in a long time. The Bengals are kind of there, but notoriously been sort of a, just kind of a cheap,

I'm saying shitty organization, but just, you know, they have the pieces now now they have some of the pieces, what are they going to do with them? Obviously, you go, yeah, I go Cincinnati. It's a cool town, though. It's a cool town, cool town. But also, it's like, you know, down to they just it was really tough this year not to make the playoffs with that team. With that offense specifically, that is a playoff. Don't Don't lose to New England.

Yeah, I agree. I agree. That's what I mean. Like you don't want to waste. I just get to the point of you don't want to not do wasting. You don't want to miss out on too many healthy Joe Burrow years. Not you only have so much time. You think you think these guys are going to play for 15.

Maybe they do. Or you think think you're gonna be able to keep Jamar and T all like it just doesn't work that way It's very hard to do that T Higgins is tossed around in every trade rumor free He has a sign a nice like he should keep him but if they lose, I mean, yeah That's what I want. And again, you're just banking on being healthy every year exactly. So yeah Well my number two I would be remiss not to call myself out I have to here and it just is the way it is but I'm putting the New York Knicks specific fans on there and I'll make the case for you Matt some success in the 70s two championships no one under the

age of 60 really remembers any of that We had the 90s run Michael Jordan broke our heart every single time We talked about them a homes thing. That was the same thing with the Knicks Knicks were up 2-0 in 94 and blew a 2-0 lead with home court advantage like you think they're dead and they're just not and then obviously Nothing really good has happened from then on one finals appearance run in a half a season, but just look at from 2000 till now which is now a 25 year run There's like four playoff appearances in those 20 years So I think most Nick fans will agree with me and now yes things are good things are good Lot of fun vibes are high right now

We've suffered to get to this point and that's why I feel like it's okay I don't know if you I wouldn't say you're tortured really Cincinnati's never I mean that some of these teams have never I mean Detroit Lions have never won a championship in 1972 Yeah, but you still I mean guys, what did you guys get? Like you guys have a star team this year. The Bengals have a star team this year. They didn't make the playoffs. You guys made the playoffs last year and you guys are rocking right

now. Listen, I mean, right now, the vibes are high, but I wouldn't say the Knicks. I wouldn't be like the Knicks. We imagine being the worst. Knicks. Matt, imagine being the worst. Well, knowing what type of fans you guys have, knowing you, I could understand why you guys. Well, here's what I'm saying. This is the kind of torture we had to endure. Imagine being the bottom three in the NBA for like four straight years and not having a first round draft pick. Think about it like that. There was a run there where the Knicks were bottom three for years in a row with no first round pick. And then we picked for stops Porzingis and then now he's winning championships for the Celtics.

So that's my number two. I know Nick fans. And Charles Oakley can't even sit in your arena. Come on. That I refuse to discuss. I love Oakley. I will not discuss that publicly. My number two. I'm going to assume this might be your number one. I'm to discuss. I would not, because I love Oakley. I will not discuss that publicly. All right, my number two. I'm going to assume this might be your number one. I'm going Minnesota. No, not my number one. My honor, in the honor will mention this. We might have the same number one.

We might not. For sure. Minnesota, when you look at all of the sports, I think, I would say great sports. I mean, great sports. I think they got the T-wolves. It's a great sports town. Yeah.

I've been there. Minnesota, they got a ring with twins. You have all four major posts, Minnesota Wild. Yep. Couple couple factoids here. The last championship came in 91. Do you know which team won that? Obviously was 91 was the twins.

Yeah, Minnesota Twins. Yeah, Kirby Puckett, baby. Favorite player. My brother's favorite player growing up. Yeah, Kirby Puckett, baby. Favorite player, my brother's favorite player growing up all time, Kirby Puckett. Mine was Ken Griffey and Vince Coleman, random, I know. Vikings never won a Super Bowl, they've been four times. I love, I love doing fucking research when we do this shit.

Well, cause you realize like how bad. You realize like how bad or how great they are. I put some notable heartbreaks in there. See if you remember some of these. Miss Kicks by Gary Anderson and Blair Walsh. Fars Interception in 2009. The failed Herschel Walker trade. Do you remember that?

Do I mean? So. Yes. And led to Emmett Smith, right? And led to Emmett Smith, Darren Woodson and Russell Maryland. So in 89, the Vikings traded for Herschel Walker. Yeah. Who was, I mean, it was a beast, right? I mean, it's still a beast, but didn't pan out. But in return, the Cowboys essentially got all those draft picks and they drafted those three players. The Cowboys

went on to win obviously three super bowls in the nineties and the Vikings. So like you look back and you're like, so you're doing the whole city of Minnesota. Yeah, I'm just doing, yeah, I'm just doing it as a sports town. Yeah. The Vikings, and then this year with Sam Darnold and all that. And you know how I feel about Sam, but just the year they had, and they've been, they've been, they're a very good team. Playoffs a lot of times, even with the cousins, but just, you just, they can't get over the hump. So, say Minnesota. I don't know how, I would say this. I don't know, like New York fans are,

like Philly fans love their sports, right? They probably hate them, but they love them. They're always showing up. I don't know if Minnesota has like, they might hate me for saying this, like truly great appreciative fans. I'm sure the Vikings, you know what I mean? Like do the T-wolves- I think they do. I mean, the few I know- I'm asking. Yeah. Okay. So-

I know Josh Dumas. I know Nick Swartz. And you know, I know like- Do they have deep, deep rooted- I think so. Vikings fan. I think Vikings for sure. Vikings for sure. People are still, you know- Deep rooted. I think so. I think Vikings for sure. Vikings for sure. You know, the twins have had, you know, they, they were been a lot of first round exits. I mean, they can't even fill up their stadium anymore. They were a lot of first round exits to the Yankees in,

you know, but I take that back. I mean, I'm sure there's true good fans there, but they just, I mean, they haven't celebrated a championship since the twins And I don't even think people go watch the twins anymore in Minnesota. I'm with you man Wow Look number one It's just it's the bills. It's the bills. I'm sorry. I feel for you Buffalo We even got a lump in the Sabres with all this who have not been not that we talk hockey much on the show. I do love playoff hockey. But yeah, there's from the four Super Balls to everything going on now to being in the same division

as Tom Brady, something has got to give and their fan base is so electric to the best amazing. If I could say what team I'd want to win a championship that I have no affiliation with in football for sure It's the Bills. I would feel and I I feel the best for their affair I feel like they would appreciate that Super Bowl more than any other franchise that I've told I told you this story, but I was with the Bills for a cup of coffee and preseason my last year and Doug Morrone like a call expert a moment you hop on a flight and you're like,

I'm going to Buffalo? I was on an elliptical, 24 hour fitness in Hermosa beach. True story. And you just got a call like, Hey, Buffalo needs you. I was still, yeah, I was still working out, but I was still working out, but I was, I was, I was done. Like I was, I was, I had a workout first for Pete in Seattle earlier that year, like in March, and then just training throughout the summer, one foot in,

one foot out, didn't really care. And then my agent called and he was like, Buffalo, you're going to fly out tonight on a red eye, you're going to get there tomorrow, go through, and then you're practicing. It was literally practice the next day. I was there for four days. It was pre-season four, game number four, really doesn't matter. A lot of the backups play. Kevin Cobb had a concussion. He was out. They just drafted EJ Manuel. It was their first draft.

Yeah, EJ Manuel, sure. So I always wonder if I would have played well, would I have made it? Probably not. I think they needed an arm and I was okay with that. I didn't really care, to be honest with you. But I played like shit. I will say the three days that I was there,

there was one event that took place with the team, like a back, like they do like an event where the players come in and sign some autographs. I remember they treated me like a king. But just the fans in the sense of, oh, we're so, I was like, God, I just. They love that team so much. I disappointed them so much in that game.

But my glimpse of the Bills mafia firsthand, and Houston had good fans, it was just like, wow, this is cool. Like this is a cool place. There's not much to do out there in Buffalo. So they up there for you as a fan base, just from even like a quick four day experience from things you've seen in the NFL.

The zero doubt, like maybe the best fan. I mean, a lot of these teams have great fan bases, but maybe the best, like truly passionate, love their team, and that's all they got up there, man. I mean, you're from New York, it's Buffalo, the Sabres and Buffalo Bills, there's nothing else over in Buffalo. And so I'm with you.

I want them to win a championship. I don't care as much about the Sabres. I want the Bills to win a championship with Josh Allen before it's all said and done. And I will say too, like they're, the Josh Allen is in a way similar with the homes like, like a Steph Curry, where they are getting a lot of fans that don't live in Buffalo, but love Josh. Like my nephew is the perfect example. And even though he lives in, like my

nephew's claiming, well, Buffalo's New York. Like, yeah, you, I told him like, you live closer to Cleveland than Buffalo. And that's not not that's not a joke. That's true You can get here faster than you could Buffalo But I do feel like there's a lot of Bills fans for this very specific team and my nephew really wants to go to a game So anyone out there listening you got the Buffalo Bills hookup Let me know because I think I gotta take this kid to a Bills game next year You got to take them to in September preferably I ain't trying to freeze my I did. I did play. I did beat Josh Allen in the flag football game. That's my claim to fail. We count everything here. I want a championship. I ran through in the

playoffs. I ran through Josh Allen, Will Levis, Will Levis, then Josh Allen, and then Desmond Ritter and then Doreen Thompson Robinson to win the championship. You should just maybe highlight the Josh Allen part. His team wasn't very good. We smacked his team. Well, listen, this was a really, really fun show. Matty next week, I look forward to seeing you bright eyed and bushy tailed, well rested. Josie liner would love you throwbacks.

Rockstar. Rockstar. I can't wait to hear about your backyard project next week That's going on that Matt said yes to it might be the wrong time to vet about the back Probably with a you know couple day old but all good There's always time for that on throw and don't forget like and subscribe On all socials and for the YouTube especially and again pay attention keep notifications We will be at the fanatics red carpet event in New Orleans and the next time I see you Matt will be You'll be a father of four and I will see you in New Orleans. Yes, sir. Peace