Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Super Bowl Picks, Coaching Carousel and TCU Twitter Drama

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

The guys are back just in time for the playoffs and this week they’re talking all things NCAA and NFL. Matt gives his thoughts on the matchup between the potential No. 1 and No. 2 overall picks in the 2026 NFL Draft, Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza and Oregon’s Donte Moore. Then the guys discuss their picks for the Super Bowl, whether this is Josh Allen’s last chance and what Wild Card weekend matchup they’re most excited about.   Finally, Annie Agar joins Matt and Jerry to talk her Packers heading to Chicago to face off against the Bears yet again, the latest head coaching news and play a new round of Twisted Tea Trivia.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I don't really know how to handle when your boy finds himself embroiled in a Twitter fiasco. I just don't know how to handle it. Do I jump in? Yeah, you jump in. I don't know. I don't know what to do. All right. Welcome in, everybody. Another episode of Throwbacks. first episode of 2026 we made it bro we made it that's weird to say 2026 and then when you see stuff like 20 2014 was 10 years ago or 12 years ago it's horrible i was i was scrolling you know how you scroll you you got to look up your birthday and like i'm scrolling all the way down to 1983 and i'm like

holy dude i am getting old and when you were like in the 90s you ever thought about man i wonder what 2026 is going to be like we're here bro we're living it yeah we didn't get any of the things that back to the future promised us part two but we got robots we got robots we got cars that drive themselves we got all sorts of crazy stuff going on you know what else is weird too like i think of the second giant super bowl right like i remember that so vividly i remember where i was it felt like not that long ago 14 years ago since that second not even the first giant super will versus the Pats. The second one was 14 years ago. That's just heartbreaking for me. It is heartbreaking. I want to say it's been awesome, dude. Season two of throwbacks.

Appreciate you. It's going to be a great year. I always like New Year's always kind of a time to reset. You know, a lot of great things going on in your life. Obviously, you got a baby coming up. A baby coming up. A baby popping out here in the next month or so. Sending my boy off to college next week. Wow. That's got a hit. Different. We got a great crew behind us at Throwback. So shout out to everybody there. Wish everybody a happy New Year.

I just want to say one thing. Let's crush this year, buddy. Let's crush this year. Well, thankful to have this show. Thankful to all the listeners, all the people who subscribe, keep downloading, subscribing to Throwback Show, follow us on all that stuff. But it's going to be an awesome year. It is going to be an awesome year.

And I want to talk a few ways about how I ended the year. But most importantly, Matt, how did you come? kind of close out. 2025. As I look at the date, and you know, it's so weird now. Like,

I'm so used to backing up my boys, whether it's in the street or, like, if I ever did an interview and someone talks trash. And then I don't really know how to handle when your boy finds himself embroiled

in a Twitter fiasco. I just don't know how to handle it. Do I jump in? Yeah, you jump in. I don't know what to do. So maybe I'm a bad friend. And out there, please tweet us.

us, like, how I could have been a better friend to Matt during this. And I don't know if we could bring this up on the screen, but I'll read it if we can't. On December 30th, so this is 2025, Matt Liner, innocently tweeted, nobody cares. I promise, exclamation point, and like the laughing so hard you're crying emoji, right? Innocent enough, I see it has about 2 million views. Why does a tweet like that, Matt, have 2 million views? Do you want to give us a little back? Yeah, I'll give you some context.

So I'm sure I was a couple drinks in at that point in the watching, the USCTCU game was on, okay? And I want to say this, and this is the dead honest truth. And I'm going to say this, I'm going to say, on my children, not that anyone really cares anymore, but on my children, that tweet had nothing to do with the USCTCU game. I tweeted that early in the game. I think USC was up at the time. Like, it had nothing to do with TCU or USC that game. And I saw a TCU football handle coming at me, which I love because, by the way, I love TCU.

I love TCU. We covered TCU at Fox on Big Noon. I've been there a couple times. They're amazing. I love the people there. I love Sunny. Like, that's why I was laughing. I'm like, come on, guys.

I love you guys. This has nothing to do with you. It had nothing to do with USC in that game. It was a little bit of a sublimible. message to another football team. And I'm not going to name names. And another thing that was going on in that week. And that's all it was. Listen, it was all about just stirring the pot. It's a subliminal message. But right here, right now, TCU football, I love you. It had nothing to do with you. It had nothing to do with that game. It had nothing to do with bowl games in general because you read the

timeline. It's just like this, this, this, this, this. But man, it is amazing when you send something now, it gets legs, and then it just goes. And people just make up what they think what it means. Well, this one. What did you think? You kind of know now, but what did you have any like guess? When I first, well, because I kind of, here's the thing, I caught your tweet when it was already in like millions of views, right? I didn't like see it five minutes after because I wasn't watching the game in the moment at the time. I don't even know. I'll tell you where I was when we do our Wendy's segment, where I probably was. But

no, and then, but the thing I, the thing that brought to my attention was I saw a tweet from TCU football, from the verified, the gold check. That one got me a little bit. I was like, oh, come on, guys. And you know they had that, they basically just tweeted, cry on, and they gave you

the peace sign. And that alone has 1.3 million views. Good for TCU. Good for, by the way, all of these, all of the social teams for a lot of these teams are freaking hilarious, dude. You don't want to get in a battle with a social media team from a major football university

because they go at you. You know, one I didn't like is from this guy, Cold Garfield, was his Twitter name. This is where I started getting like, man, I got to do something. He quote tweeted you and said, never seen a Heisman winner,

this be this much of a dork. What's a do? First of all, nothing you said was dorky, Nothing about you, Gorgie. I didn't see that one. And like, I don't know. I feel like that was like a mean tweet, but not as mean as some of these other ones. And this is where I started saying, like, shoot, do I have to get involved here?

By the way, I've never outside of maybe when I was seven, no, like five to seven years old when I wore super big, thick bifocals and I was cross-eyed and wore high socks. Did anyone ever say I was a dork? So that's a good one, dude. Well, I appreciate you, bro. Shy Giddy 300, they also say. One of the best memories in sports I've had in the last five to six years was watching this guy and Reggie Bush in disbelief as they watched the USA team with St. Brown, London, and Pittman

get blown away by Iowa. Trust me, you guys cared. They looked like they were about to cry. I don't even remember what I didn't hear that was, dude. people need to know this about me and i think they get i think they get you know there's certain alumni and fans and people that care so much about their university that it's almost sad like like like like in a way that it's like so invested every day it's on their mind they wake up like it's it's actually fairly like sad and kind of makes me feel insecure like for them like i love u sc

i want u sc to be successful i am a proud alumnus i think it's the best university for what it can do and all these things in the world. And I support and I want us to be great. And whatever that looks like, I want to be great. But like, like, people need to know that, like, I don't care that much. So when you're all up in here, like, you're all up in the biz, like, it's just funny to me. Like, it doesn't hurt my feelings. Like, my feelings don't get hurt over it.

You know what I mean? It's hard to hurt your feelings. It's really hard to hurt my feelings. Like, that doesn't like... About stuff like that. People talk about my NFL. Like, I've heard everything and nothing hurts. my feelings. If you come out my family and my kids, then we have a problem, right? Like,

that's where, like, I think that's where people can draw the line. Don't make it personal. Yeah. People make it personal on there. I'm like, bro, like, like, how does it feel that, like, you think about me that much? You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's hilarious to me. My last favorite one, because I, this might have potentially been a dig at throwbacks, too. I don't know, because, but you said, where, in that last one, you said you're going to come defend me. Where have you, when have you defended me? I have not. This is the one I really almost jumped in to defend you. This is a Texas A&M Centel, so it's like a intentional, yeah, it's a fate, right, not Texas

A&M, but this Texas A&M CENTEL tweeted, aren't you linked to that cartel gambling fraud referencing Owen Hansen, bro? Oh shit, yeah. So either that was a shot at throwbacks or you clearly didn't listen to the episode. Matt Liner had absolutely nothing to do with anything Owen Hansen was doing. God, I hope not. I'm not linked to that shit because I'm not. I'd be looking on my shoulder every day.

No, I'm not linked to that. O'Dog. We had O'Dog on the pod. It was great. That story, hey, by the way, cocaine quarterback, go watch it on Amazon Prime. We had him on a couple months ago earlier in the fall. But no, I am not linked to that. Thank God.

Incredible story. But no, I was not involved. Has it died down? Is your Twitter, like, clean now? Like, are you pretty much back to regular? Like, is the timeline cleanse that you back to? Are you still getting a DECD? I mean, look, I'm not on there that much, you know?

Like, like the playoffs, like, I'll be. in there again with the college football playoffs and you know some of these games and stuff and it's just amazing how that platform does that you know what I mean like we talk about the the positive of it but the but the it just it just it allows people to be super courageous and super brave and they can do whatever they want but you see those people that these are the same people you see in a grocery store and they want to come up and get your autograph you know what I mean like it's just a funny world we live in with that but people need to know I have fun on there that was not a dig at TCU so I just like I love my TCU squad um but yeah man people uh people

people can people can read between lines and and make what they think of it I should have backed you up because yeah like I'm actually more disappointed in you not being there for me than what the people are saying about me so that's fair yeah because uh I really only use Twitter for Nick's stuff and bat and sport and my fandom and I'm for sure going to get into a Twitter beef come playoff time And I'm already, like, at war with now it's, like, you know how I feel about the Philly fans. Now it's the Celtics fans because the Celtics fans are good. And I couldn't make sense of this, Matt. Like, every Celtics fan since early, before Thanksgiving has been tweeting specifically about their seating.

Like, oh, my God, we're like a three seed. Yeah, they're analyzing every freaking game. But it's like, you could say like, oh, my team is doing good. We're like overperforming. We have no Jason Tatum. This is sick. And it is sick what they're doing. but specifically celebrating that you are now a two-seed,

a half game up on the Knicks in January 7th as they record this. Why can't you just say, wow, we're lighting the league up? So I start chirping, and then there's one dude, Dan Greenberg from Barstool, and I ain't trying to catch no smoke with Barstool, but him and I have been going back for it. So I say all that to say, I'm hoping you will come,

if I need you to come to my defense on Twitter, with the Knicks, even though you're not a Knicks fan. With the Nix? Yeah. I mean, you don't need my defense with the Knicks, but I'll come out. You don't come at Turtle, bro. You don't come at Turtle. And believe me, that's exactly what I get. Shut up. Turtle, go drive the Hummer. When I'm in the line of fire online and I'm taking just strays to the dome left and right. Like, I need some backup. I need to know that you're in the trenches with me. I feel like I just caught it late. I feel like if I caught it in the moment, I would have jumped right in. By the way, when I'd send that out, like, I'd just go about my day and night.

don't even think, I'm like, what do you guys, I'm like, what do you guys talking about? Anyway, that's fun. That being said, the Nix, we should do more of that, because I get, I get, I get, I get shit on. Oh, I got some great, I got some great ones, man. I got some, I'll pull from some of my mean tweets in the bank, especially during that Nixixixer series. And usually it's all just like typecasting hate, like, oh, you're a turtle. What have you done since Entourage? I'm like, I've done 70 episodes of another show and seven movie, but it's okay, then you start defending yourself, it makes it worse. Yeah, like if you start defending yourself, then you look like an idiot.

I get people like, how did you fumble Jamie Lynn Sig? I'm like, dude, that was a television show. Like, I didn't fumble anything. They also, like the girls that broke up with me. You also fumbled Ronda Rousey. Yeah, how'd you fumble Ronda Rouse? She would have kicked your ass. I'm like, yeah, you're right.

That's 100% true. That would have been kind of fun, though. We're going to bring on Annie Agar and a little while. We're doing Twisted trivia. We're going to hit some football stuff because so much has happened. And then I want to give you my Wendy's hot take, which is sort of what I did over the break,

as we just discussed your little drama over the break. But really quick before we hit all that, obviously there's a lot of coaching vacancies, which we'll get to. And, you know, the draft status is now sort of locked in. And it's just such, you couldn't even write this, Matt. Like the draft status, Raiders get one, Jets get two.

And now Friday, we have this awesome face-off with Oregon in Indiana. And, like, obviously, we're going to be watching those teams. But I got to feel like every NFL scout, not that they wouldn't watch it anyway, but this is potentially a monumental draft thing to watch. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, you have, well, the greatest story in college football and it really has been the last two years in Indiana football. Absolutely.

Like, it's like, they're here. They're here to stay. They're really, really good. And, like, people need to start to wrap their head around. Indiana football is, by the way, better than their basketball program. Like, Indiana basketball has not really been relevant in a long time, even though the history and it's great, right? It's a basketball school.

Like, that's quickly, quickly changing. Fernando Mendoza versus Dante Moore, part two, which is exciting because early in the season, Indiana went on the road to Oregon. Indiana beat them in a really good game. And Doza threw a pick six in the fourth quarter, came back and led him on a touchdown drive. I think they ended up winning 30 to 20. obviously the seasons go on and here these two young stars are right and i think in regards to the draft

and uh i'm gonna i'm gonna call out someone here in a second really quick who had a horrible take this week but um you have mendoza who has continued to impress and and for me with him i've seen him up close and personal he's big dude he's six four six five he moves really well he's got a really good arm he's accurate he's got all the intangibles um the most impressive thing for me for him is when the moment is on the line he's been really really good this year because there's a lot of games you can dissect like he didn't have some good games against some of the better competition he played but he found ways to win in particular in the fourth quarter those are things you can't teach dude the mental part of that like he shows up when it when it matters uh dante more is a little bit

more of an enigma for me in a good way i think dante more is really talented um he's got all the intangibles. He was a big-time recruit coming out of high school. He's found a home in Oregon. We saw him earlier this year at Northwestern. He's really, really good. Dante Moore, I think Mendoza's the lock number one pick. I would just say that now. That's my take. I think he's the lock number one pick when it all comes through the whole process. I think Dante Moore could benefit potentially from coming back to school another year. I think there's room for him to develop because he's still young and he hasn't played a ton of football. I think there's room for him to develop.

And a guy like that coming back next year is going to get $5 to $7 million in college to play one more year in college to get better. Brandon Sorsby and Cincinnati got about $5 million this week to go to Texas Tech and they're just throwing money at guys over there. Going to get that money, which is life-changing money at that age, for anybody's age, and have a chance to develop and maybe be the number one pick in the next year, probably with Arch Manning. those would be the two guys. Now again, he could be a top five pick this year. He comes out, all that kind of stuff. But I want to read this because this is just hilarious to me. Yeah.

Bemani Jones. Frozen takes. Bumani. Okay. Yeah. I mean, Fernando Mendoza is a very good college quarterback. I know what the number one pick in the draft looks like. That ain't it. So, so, so, so, so, what is the number one pick in the draft? Who is the number

one pick of the draft then? Well, he's talking in regards to Fernando Mendoza. Yeah. So, so, so like, What does the number one pick look like? I'm just curious. Like, what is the number one pick? Like, does he have to run a 4-4? Does he, like, like, Fernando Mendoza is really, really, really, really, really good.

And he's proven that now. Really, he was really good at Cal too. He just, there wasn't a lot of great players around him. Now he's proven that at Indiana. And he's probably going to be the quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. Well, I would also ask, Bimani, like, are you saying that there's maybe other position players that look more like a number one pick? Are you saying he's not the best?

quarterback because if you look at those first two picks, my guess in regards to be as a quarterback, he doesn't look like a number one pick at the quarterback position, which I'd be curious of what he would describe as what that looks like. And I, again, I would, yes, I would love to hear that, but also, if you're the Raiders, you're the Jets, you're the Cardinals, the Tees, you have to swing at these quarterbacks. I mean, you really just do it. I know. It makes me so nervous for these quarterbacks because we talk about it. Everybody knows. You're looking at a lot of these rosters, and it's like, ooh, and they don't have head coaches, right?

Like, at the moment. So it's like, you go to Vegas, you got, you got Brock Bowers, who's a stud. You got Ashton Genty, who, you know, like, he's, I think he's going to be really good. They just need so many guys. They don't have a receiver on the outside. You got a disgruntled Max Crosby. He's one of the best players in the league. You look at the Jets, like, like, yeah, it's just, it's, that's why if you're like a Dante Moore

and, you know, maybe there's no guarantee your number one pick. It's like, you start to look at these organizations. You're like, dude, I could be the number one or number two pick next year and five or six million dollars richer and get better. Like, you know.

Could you win a Heisman next year or no? Oh, and the He's for sure. Yeah. Right. So. Yeah, he'd be a preseason Heisman favorite. With no NIL, he's 100% coming out, though. Right?

That's 10 years ago, he's coming out. That's the beauty of NIL. Honestly, in particular for other sports it's like college hoops, right? Because college hoops is the one and done era. Now it's like some of these guys, you're gonna make two or three million dollars stay in another year.

And like basketball, there's only two rounds. You know what I mean? Like I think that part makes it more fun for college hoops, which I'm sure we'll talk about more as like March Madness comes around. But for NFL, for football,

it's like you're a QB. It's like, dude, like you're gonna make, even if you're a projected fifth or sixth round pick, you're making two, three million dollars, stay as long as possible. You know, I often get asked, you know,

about entourage reboot. I always hear that word reboot. I don't necessarily always imagine it's like us, because we're so old. Like if you reboot something, you usually get a new cast, right? Or like a, so like when I think of it, I used to try to think what would a 20, now 2026 version of Entourage look like? And what it looks like is a college quarterback who's making $7 million to go back to school.

That's what Entourage looks like. That's not some actor. It's not Timothy Chalameh. It's Dante Moore. Going back to Oregon, making $7 million. billion bucks. Someone needs to write that script, right? Because you had like, you and I need to write it. You had like a ballers, right? Ballers had a little bit of, they followed around like athletes and all that, but like... Post career a little more. Yeah, falling around,

following around a quarterback in L.A. You got to write that show. We're about to cut this out. I want someone to steal this. That's like, hey, when we start our production company, that's the first, that's a project. A hundred percent. I keep thinking about it. And I know. You mean that's not not not interesting enough to have an 18-year-old millionaire. The greatest part about that is who's going to cast is this guy's turtle. Like, that's going to be great. Hey, turtles are now very important parts of the process. And I think Entourage helps with that.

Everyone needs a turtle, buddy. All right. Well, we're going to hit some NFL in a second. And then we got Annie coming on. It's time now. We're going to do our Wendy's Fresh Take of the Week. I wanted to make sure we got all our football college stuff out because I'm going alternate to sports for a second.

But before that, join team tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy Juicy Tendies. Now at Wendy's, let me give you this fresh take. Over the break, you know, Bree is very adamant about having our boys try a bunch of different things, whether basketball, piano, swift. Great. Of course. You love to be, and we're lucky enough to do that.

We live in an awful winter place, right? It's the wall from Game of Thrones and Cleveland. Yeah, it's terrible. However, we live 10 minutes. that's away from two ski resorts, like amazing ski resorts. I could be there probably quicker than you could be to the airport. So she signed the boys up for ski club, right? My six or four-year-old.

Rad. It's rad. I've been skiing three times in my life. Once when I was a kid, once in my early 20s, and then once again, when I was like 30. Just picture you skiing. Bringing the boys up to a mountain, strap up. Yeah, there's a lot. It's a lot of work.

It was a painful process. Again, I'll do anything for him, so I'll continue to do it. But then Bree's telling me, you have to ski. Because you have to ski with them. And my take is, I am not into skiing. I don't get it. Why don't you get it? Because number one, and I'm a gear guy.

I love gear. First things first, okay? It is a lot of work to get yourself ready on the lift, up the mountain. And then I'm a beginner. So I'm not like going on a five-minute run. It's going to be a 30-second run. And then I'm back down the hill. And I weigh back on that line and go back up that lift.

Don't get it. I'm not a cold weather guy, the meaning like activities. You live in Cleveland, Ohio, dude. And I stay inside and I play on golf simulators and basketball courts. If I live 10 minutes from a ski resort, my kids would be the next Lindsay Vance, dude. Well, maybe my kids will, but I won't be skiing, slalom, and downhill. and doing fucking backflips off the half pipe. Well, if we had that in our backyard.

Here's my next point on my take, though. So what all the parents... You don't like the work that comes with it. And for the payoff. I don't think there's enough payoff because I'm not going to... I'm not going to learn enough to go on five-minute ski runs. Number two, point number two, all the parents who drop their kids off at ski club,

who we know, they drop their kids off, and then they go skiing for two hours without watching. That's amazing. God. Right. I talk to a lot of the moms and dads. This one mom, one lovely mom says, oh, yeah, I got a cracked meniscus from last season of skiing. And one dad's like, yeah, I don't have any of my ACL left. I took a really bad fall while skiing.

All these mofos are injured, bro. Is there a more easier way to get hurt than skiing at 46 years old? Playing pickup basketball, you probably have the same. I don't do that anymore. I'm done with that. Listen, a couple things to throw at you at this. First of all, first of all, you know, turn the frown upside down. It's time for you to start to attack this year with a little more like excitement and

opportunistic, you know, having a good year. I grew up with two trips in my life. We were poor. We didn't have a lot of money. But the two trips that we went on every year, we went on a houseboat trip in the summer. That's why I love the lake and I love boating. And we went on a ski trip in the winter because my uncle had a. condo up in Tahoe up in North Star so those are the two things that I I grew up on and I loved

so those are the two trips that we are currently passing down to our boys and our kids right so that in 30 years they're going to be like man the lake trips and this and the ski trips are the best trips ever and their kids and their kids and it's just one of those things it was our family vacation now I will say this as you get older it's hard it's a lot more work the the gear the boots the constant bitching and complaining my boots hurt my feet hurt that's the one where i'm just like dude shut up and you're gonna it's supposed to hurt this is fun damn it there's two things with the kids when you see them and to go on the to the lift with them and to see them skiing and to see the joy and you see like your kids charge a mountain fog get back up that's awesome the second thing i pray

i pray skiing is the greatest thing that was ever invented you ski for a couple hours in the morning, dude, from about 9 a.m. to about 11, 11.30 while the kids are in ski club, because Bree's on is something here, so you need a joiner. You go hit that, that mid mountain bar and you go get you, you know, you go get you a nice, nice drink. A little hot toddy. A little hot toddy. Listen, we're on Wendy's here right now, so you get yourself a nice, you know, Opry skiing, you sit down, you with your friends, you got a little fire pit. You watch, you people watch as the, as the skiers go down the mountain, making fun of them, all that. Dude, that's the greatest hour of my life on a ski trip, dude. There's nothing,

because it hits you a little quicker, hits you a little harder, then you go down. And then, yeah, and then you go in the hot tub at night when it feels good. Now, listen, I don't know how, I'm trying to picture Cleveland, Ohio ski resorts. It's just pure ski. No, you're going there for the ski. I can't really vision it right now. Because you go home when you're done. Yeah, I just can't envision that. But the moral of the story is you need to start, you need to start being positive. You need to start being positive. I need to see you, I need to see you charging the mountain.

I need, I need breed a video you skiing down a mountain. This winter. I feel like if I have to give up pickup basketball out of fear of getting injured, I'm going to trade that with starting to ski. It seems counterproductive. Listen, dude, about five, six years ago, I was skiing in Aspen

and a place called Aspen. And I swear to God, I saw Jesus, dude. I saw Jesus, dude. I saw Jesus. I hit a, I hit a, and I'm like, I'm a good, I'm a, I'm a moderate skier. I can do black. Oh, meaning like you almost died? Oh yeah, dude. I saw Jesus. So I'm with you on that. Oh, I was going. And like I can, I'm a good skier. I've skied a ton. I cruise. I, I got, tall guys typically do well with skiing. I feel like it's a short guy thing. The fall is a lot harder. That's what I'm getting. So I'm skiing down. And I'm not even like, I'm like, you know, there's, there's points in, in skiing. If you're listening, it's like, you go down there.

hill it flattens out for a little bit and then it like kind of goes up to the next hill right like so then so usually when you kind of go down at the end you kind of just you know you start to go really fast so you can get some speed going flat and then you go up like there's no bumps there's no nothing well i was doing that and for whatever reason i hit an edge on my ski and dude and i and it was flat so it's hard i fell and i'm big and i fell and i probably slid i'm not even i'm not exaggerating 50 to 60 yards on on the snow oh my god and when i fell and i say i saw jesus bro i saw i saw i thought i was gone and i'm like you know like just and josie was behind me probably like josie's a really good skier 100 yards behind me you know we're just cruising we're going down right and all my all my

skis are off my poles are all over the place and i'm laying on my back and i open my eyes and the first thing i do is start like moving like did i break a bone i thought i broke you just break something and dude Nothing happened. I think I bruised, like my ribs hurt. Like, I had some, like, rib thing, but I was fine. But, dude, in that moment, that shit. You had no idea where you were going to end up. No, I thought I was good.

I thought I was going to have a bleed and, like, die later in the night. Like, that's what I was like, whatever. But I ended up being fine. But since then, to your point, I have just been, like, I'm cautious when I ski, but I love it. There's no point in me trying to go fast. I'm not trying to do freaking moguls. You're not Lindsey Vaughn, bro. You're not Lindsay Vaugh.

But I am Matthew Stephen Liner and I like to enjoy a nice ski run. So get your ass together, dude. Please. Shoutouts to Wendy's. That's our fresh take of the week. Take a quick break. We're going to talk some NFL

and bring in Annie Agar. All right, coming back. Annie Agar is going to join us in a second for some twisted tea trivia. I thought Matt, before we get to Annie, let's do just going into this first round. Let's just do our three playoff questions, our dire burning playoff questions. We'll go kind of snake draft it and see where we end up.

And I think we've got to make some Super Bowl picks. It's time. So do you want to lead off? You want me to lead off? I'll lead off. I think the first round matchup that I think is fascinating and intriguing Philly Eagles versus the 49ers. Because you talk about Philly all year long.

It was like this up and down season and the offense and there was just like the locker room divide with A.J. Brown, J.L. Hertz and all of this stuff in the media making it a lot, probably a lot about nothing. Here they are. Really, really, really great. Still, I'm still think maybe the best roster in football still top two or three roster. Here they are in the playoffs again. And a legit Super Bowl contender going up against what I said. I think I said it a couple weeks ago, but going up against the San Francisco 49ers, for whatever reason, like people aren't really considering them a favorite. And I think they're a legit favorite to win the Super Bowl as well. I mean, the pieces they have, the defense is a little spotty, but that offense away, Brock Perry. So I think you have two teams that very well could win the Super Bowl. The winner of this could win the Super Bowl. So I just think that's a fascinating matchup that could go either way.

Yeah, a lot. You know, to me, like with the Niners, I know there's been rumors of Fred Warner coming back. I don't, like, does he come back? I mean, they've been great without him, too, and if he even comes back, like... It's funny because, like, Shannon is probably not going to win coach of the year. If he would have maybe won that Seattle game, maybe he would have got it, because what he's done with a decimated defense, no Bosa, it's pretty insane.

12 and 5 in a tough division, so... The best division in football, probably. No, I'm anticipating that game. All right, that was question one. All right, so a big thing this year is, especially in the AFC, right? We have no Mahomes or Chiefs. We have no Lamar and the Ravens, Bengals and Burrow. So a lot of the focus and the narrative has been on Josh Allen and the Bills.

And I think the AFC, to me, is just wide open. Like Broncos are a one seed, the Patriots are a two seat. You look at the Patriots, you're like, how in the world did this team get there? But credit Vrable and Drake May, they've been great. Josh Allen and the Bills. I don't want to say, is this a must win Super Bowl for Josh Allen? Because I think that's dumb because it's just so hard to get there no matter what. But the window is open still.

He doesn't have to play Mahomes or Lamar. Is this the year that Josh Allen and Buffalo get over the hump? And do they need to get over the hump to win a Super Bowl? So I certainly think that... And I know you're not a Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills fan. No, I'm a big Josh Allen fan. What I worry about with the Bills is what I tell my nephew all the time is I just don't like those receivers. You know, and I know, like, James Cook is amazing, led the league in rushing, you know, Cooks made help a little bit.

He has to be Superman and he can be. And I do think he will be. And I would say, I do think he does get there. Does he win the Super Bowl? That we could have a different discussion about because we'll talk about maybe our matchups in a second. I mean, you look at Jackson. Do you like, Bill's play Jacksonville? I mean, Jacksonville's good, but like, do you trust Buffalo and Josh in the playoffs, right?

I just hate that they're going on the road for a lot. of this, you know? I know it doesn't matter, but they really are one of the teams that has a significant home field advantage to me, you know? I do think, and I don't know, you could speak to this, like, is just the mental factor of knowing, hey, we just don't have to see Mahomes. Because every time he had to rise to the occasion, he did. He did rise, but Josh Allen was always great. Yeah, they just always found out. He scored too soon last year. They left Mahomes with like that much time. I guarantee they say this and like all of these other teams you can't look past any team because it's NFL and especially in the AFC where it's wide open but you start to look and you're like

Noma Holmes and the Chiefs so that's just gone right Baltimore is a tough place to play and Lamar is great man like Lamar is one of one like you start to look at this and you're like as you know you got to play Bo Nix right who's been great but like you're playing a lot of these Drake May like a lot of these guys don't have playoff experience right you have Steelers a Steelers team that limped in the playoffs and A-Rod's one of the greatest all-time and all that and the Texans of Texans, the hottest team in the NFL. But like,

you're looking as Josh Allen and the bills, you're like, you're like, guys, you're like, we got a shot, right? Like, that's just there. They don't even have to say it out loud because they know the Chargers with Justin Herbert, right? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers go to New England and beat the Patriots. Well, that's what I was just going to say, Matt, yeah.

There's a world where if the Chargers do that, And the Buffalo gets, I think they... Well, Buffalo would be... Buffalo then would go to the winner of Houston, Pittsburgh. Because then the charges would play the Broncos in Denver. And then they would go to the winner of Houston, Pittsburgh. And, you know, that game is a complete toss-up to me because I like Houston and their defense.

Houston's playing great. And that defense is nasty. They are going to Pittsburgh. I'm just saying that... Rogers has been crafty. The same in the NFC with, like, Caleb being... There is something about young quarterbacks going to the playoffs, not having an experience.

Like, it's a different ball game. I've been there. I've witnessed it. It's like, it's just ramped up even more, right? So it's going to be fascinating. I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait. Well, let's close and bring on Annie, but before we close,

let's just do it now because the playoffs haven't started yet. And then we could check back on this. But right now, you have to answer because I know everyone's holding off. I don't want to give my Super Bowl predictions. But for throwbacks and our listeners, let's give our Super Bowl predictions. Who's getting there? Who's winning? go first if you want, or I can concede to you.

I'll go, because I think we're going to have different ones. Okay. This is more of just kind of going with my heart and what I hope happens, but I think Buffalo gets out of the AFC. I do. I'm rooting for Josh Allen. Love that dude. I think the team is good enough to get there for sure.

So I got Buffalo, and this one is hard, man, because the NFC is freaking tough. Who knows? I was going back and forth, but I think it's the Rams. I think the Rams, I know they're maybe the favorite to win it right now, but the Rams first round against the Panthers. Then obviously with Seattle being the number one seed, I'm just not sure. I think we're going to get a Bills, Rams Super Bowl with the Rams winning the Super Bowl.

Oh, Josh Allen falls short to Stafford. Winning the Super Bowl up in Santa Clara, up in California. Stafford gets the Super Bowl, retires on top, and you have to put him as one of the greatest of all time. You have to. You have to. Think about it. Yeah, he's done. Especially if he gets the MVP as well. Dude, two times Super Bowl MVP, but also the longevity.

He might get league MVP this year. He might, he should, he should be league MVP, him or obviously I think Dre. I mean, whatever. Yeah, we'll see. But that's, I'm going, so I'm going, Bill's Rams. What I, what I love to bring up always about Stafford is like literally, you could say, always played with great receivers, sure. That's like the knock on his MVP case.

Oh, he's got Puka, he's got Devante, I'm sure. But like, he's throwing those balls. He did it with Calvin Johnson. He did it with Cooper Cup. He did it with Puka. Like, yes, those are great receivers, but like, you've seen great receivers with not getting the ball. There's two quarterbacks in the, there's more,

but like two in the modern era that are elite throwers. That when, if you saw it in person, you'd be like, man, that's beautiful. One is Aaron Rogers. and one is Matt Stafford. I'm just telling you right now. I've seen them both. And there's a lot of guys

have big arms and all that. But the way they can throw and spin it and the flick of the wrist and all of that, Stafford is right up there and he's still doing it.

They're both still doing it. I mean, 42, 43 and freaking 38 or whatever Stafford is. I can tell you right now what the most hilarious Super Matt ball matchup would be would be Jaguars Panthers,

the two teams that came in at the same time. Some network won't be happy with that one. Well, I was about to say, if there's ever a fix, like if Jacksonville got in and clinched the AFC and then you were watching a Panthers NFC championship game, you could bet the house on whatever teams playing the Panthers

because they ain't going to get any call. That would just be the biggest fixed game of all. That would come directly from up top. Who are you? Who's your pick? Who's a matchup? You know, I hear you at Buffalo, and I certainly can see it,

but I'm just so leery. I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about it. I'm just so leery of the receipts. I really, honestly, a team that everyone's going to kind of forget about, I think the Broncos get in. I think that first round buy is going to be huge for them. I think playing in that environment is going to be huge.

They have the coach. Bo Nix has made every big play he's had to. And we've seen them come back from huge depth. They kind of have everything you need to survive a playoff run. So I'm going Denver. And as much as I really hate to say my NFC matchup, I think the Packers sneak in. Packers?

I think the Packers sneak in. No way, dude. I think you always have a road team that gets hot and goes on a run. I think the Packers, I don't think, I know the Eagles, like I believe you, that no one tanks and plays the matchup game like the NBA. I can tell you what, I don't think the Eagles wanted any part of the Packers in the first round. Not saying they tanked their game to get the two seed. I don't believe that to be.

true. But I don't think they were that mad about it. I don't think the Eagles were that mad about not having to face the Packers. Oh, man. I don't know. I mean, they rested everybody. They're going to have Jacobs. I mean, obviously, I would love it more if they had Micah Parsons. That would really be a pick. But I'm sticking with it. I think they might have some magic. So I had this question, too, before we move on with Annie and stuff. Which, you obviously, the Broncos and God is going to ask you, which number one seed do you think will lose first? and clearly Seattle. Seahawks.

Up in Seattle, maybe the toughest place to play. Yeah, and the defense is amazing. Let's just, look, we got to see our boy, Donald, the Red Hammer,

in a big time spot. And I do think he can't do it, but I'm not betting on it, and maybe I'm an idiot, and I might be an idiot. I'm not betting on my guy, Donald, the Red Hammer. So I got Bill's Rams or the Rams winning.

Who do you have winning? I got Packers, Broncos. Who do you have winning? The Broncos. The Broncos. The Broncos winning the Super Bowl. It's going to be, like, similar to the NBA last year, Thunder Pacers. That's a hot, that's a hot take, dude.

Who would have picked Thunders Pacers last year? We might have picked Thunder, but, like, and the Pacers took them to game seven. We almost, like, I think we're going to have a bizarre. We're going to look back at this year and be like, that was the weirdest year of NFL football. Super Bowl, before we go, Super Bowl MVP. I'm going with Matt Stafford. Actually, yeah, I'm going with Matt Stafford. I'm going with a defensive player.

I'm going to go with, like, Benito. It's going to be like, we're going to bring it back to a defensive player. Benito with three sacks in the Super Bowl. Exactly. There you had it. All right. Let's let's get our good friend, Annie.

All right, joining us as she does each and every week, Annie Agar, courtesy of twisted tea, grab a refreshing twisted tea today, which I just might do because I get to kick back and relax a little bit today. Good for you. Welcome, Annie. First of all, how is your, how is your break? Are you, I mean, not really a full break. You were still out there working. Video was awesome this week. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I took, I always try to take one week off at the meeting videos around the holidays just to prioritize family. So I did that week 17. Then we were back week 18. And man, it was a good one. It's a good week of football. How are we feeling about your first round matchup? I mean, let's just get it out there. You know what? First of all, Nick Siriani, I have a bone to pick with him because we would have played Philly. Which I don't think I would have felt better about. Like the Bears. Yeah, I would have felt worse about Philly. I felt way worse about. Philly. They always figured out late in the season two, like playoff time, you realize

off Philly's roster is actually crazy. But, no, I feel, I feel better about this Bears matchup than I thought I would. Packers fans are feeling really confident because we got Trayvon Diggs, so our defense is looking a little bit better. He can actually tackle with his arms. Believe it or not, Trayvon Diggs, that's why you guys are excited? That's going to be the key? It's a low bar, it's a low bar, no. No, but I think I feel a little bit better. The Bears, the Bears beat the Packers twice this year, right? No, we split. Oh, you split.

I was going to say it's tough to be the team three times. Well, you essentially had a bye week the last week, right? Right. And we rested our guys. And the Bears and Ben Johnson took a little dig at Matt and he was like, oh, we don't rest our players. You know, we want to say, okay. Keep a fresh going on.

All right. Well, okay, what, what, what, what I always look at playoff games, whether it's basketball, football, like who's the, what is the thing that scares you the most about the bears? like whether it's a player or a thing that you might not be able to stop. What's the thing that scares you most as a Packer? Definitely Ben Johnson. Caleb,

Caleb's not great. Like, he didn't play, he didn't have a great game other than that throw in the fourth quarter against us two games ago. He didn't look great. Which was an absolute dime eat. But other than that,

other than that, and the crucial part of the game, you know. But Ben Johnson schemes him up so well. And their defense doesn't scare me. Like, yeah, they get a ton of takeaways, but they can't stop our guy.

Like, they couldn't, they couldn't shut down a good offense, which I think on occasion we have. So I think Ben Johnson, just the way he's going to scheme up that game is going to be scary. Is there a better? Go ahead, Annie. He's got something against Matt Lafleur. Like, there's a heated rivalry there, at least on his side. Look at, look at, we talk about coaches and we talk about how important coaches are,

especially coordinators. Look at the lions, what happened this year on offense, and look at what he's done with Caleb and the Bears in his first year. It's wild. If you get an elite coach like that, it can completely turn around a program or at least one side of the ball. Yeah. I think it's what we're seeing, especially with this whole coaching carousel now, like Liam Cohen totally changed the Jags off. Right.

I still can't believe the the Jags are what, 12 and 4 or 13 and 4? It's insane. And I think they'll take, I think they'll go on a deep run here. Are they very trendy? Are they the worst 13 and 4 team of all time? No, they're good. Are they? If they make it to the Super Bowl, they're going to flex that game.

Can you name four guys on their defense, Jerry? Heinz. Travis Hunter. Who doesn't play? Travis Hunter doesn't count. If I sat down and thought about it, I could probably scrape together one or two more. That's the wild thing, too. Isn't it the craziest thing?

Zero and they look this good. No, I know. It's incredible. They're playing. Well, this is a perfect segue, because before we get into trivia, and we have a new wrinkle in the trivia this week, I really... It doesn't involve you. Oh, sorry.

I can't go. I really did think of you. Annie, when all these coaches started getting fired immediately on Monday and coordinators like Kingsbury's gone right. John Martin. And I started thinking, obviously, every fan base is, you know, right?

People are going out on the limb. Like, I don't know how the Jets aren't going to throw the bag at Harbaugh. Like, why on earth would Harbaugh want to go to the Jets? I don't know. But I thought of you because you study these coaches. You make amazing content each and every week where you

are highlighting the inefficiencies of these coordinators and coaches. So my question for you, from a content perspective, who are you going to miss the most in their job? That is a great question. I know. I didn't want to give you a heads up on it. It was so, this was so hard, too, because when Josh McDaniels got fired as the Raiders coach after a year, I was so bummed because he was in every video. And it's, and it's like you said, it's not that I'm just like making fun of the guy.

Like when I play the teams, I'm just playing the team, right? but the coaches have a personality. So, like, Arthur Blanks, my favorite. And, I love, I love it. Siriani and, and Petulow, Kevin Petulow, I love, like, I embody that person, I feel like. So it's just so sad when they leave. Fortunately, they usually go, you know, someplace else.

So, I mean, the Harbaugh thing was big, because I played him a lot. I feel like Stephansky made the cut a few times. DeFansky's fun, yep. Well, you're going to get Mike McCarthy back in the mix probably. Oh, would that be fun? Yeah, you're going to get him back in the mix. Yeah, I saw the Giants. Kingsbury's name is getting thrown around as a head coach.

There's a couple new news that you know. Has anyone been fired from OC and then moved right up to a head coaching job? Didn't Josh McDaniels, I think? He was the, was he with the Broncos? I don't know. Yeah, that's going to be wild. Well, to you and Matt, jump in here too. you know, there's six or seven jobs open, whatever the number is.

What do you guys think is the most attractive job offer? If you're a Harbaugh or Stefansky or even like Shula or, you know, Kubiak, if you're looking and taking, because think about, Stefansky's going to meet with the Giants, the Raiders, the Jets, like now there's even Bucks rumors. I don't know if Bowls, whatever, but. In terms of talent, Baltimore, obviously. But then the giant, it's the front of office.

offices that are holding people back because the Giants have a ton of talent. Obviously, Jackson Darts got a huge ceiling. But then you're dealing with Joe Shane. So you're like stuck in this cycle of yeah, the GM's going to just limit my ability a ton, I think. And my draft pick. Baltimore. And my draft pick, yeah. Like Browns, Andrew Barry, they have to do it now. I would say talent wise probably like the most appealing would be Baltimore. Yeah, you have a two-time NFL MVP. you have a good roster, a winning organ. And you talk about the, you know, at the top,

you know, the president, the GM, all that. Baltimore is a, can we just talk about really quick? And we've talked about kickers on this show. And I don't want to, like, I feel awful for the kid. Honestly, I do. It's more about Harbaugh. If he makes that kick, Harbaugh is not fired. Yeah.

Isn't that crazy? And now, again, I don't think you make a knee-jerk reaction like that. I'm sure this was something that's been talked about, clearly, because at some point, it's like, okay, fresh, you know, obviously fresh mindset, fresh culture, fresh voice, all of these things, right? Like, it kind of felt like Baltimore's hit a wall with, and, like, they just, you know, like, they can't get over the hump. But if they make that kick and they win that game, they're in the playoffs and Harbaugh, and maybe they make a run, right?

Like, that's the crazy thing about the football. That's just a crazy thing about it. Somebody had, they put a picture of the goalpost, you know, with the kick, and they had in the middle, Mike Tomlin fired, Harbaugh fired, Harbaugh fired. So, like, if he missed, it was Harbaugh. If you made it, it was Tomlin. I think, I think the giants are attractive, like you said, with Dart and some young. And a defense and a pass rush, at least. Yeah, but there's still, there's just still a lot of holes there. Like, and you talk about the management. Like, it's still something, you know, to keep an eye on. And then, you know, the Raiders are

interesting, right? Like, you have the number one pick. You have the number one pick. You have a great stadium. Chantee looked great. The roster isn't great, but you have about, you have a couple young pieces to build around, and you've got to hit right on your QB, right? Whether that's, maybe it's Mendoza, maybe it's Dante Moore if he comes out, but, and you got Tom Brady and you got some guys up there at the top now that might have a little more influence. So it's going to be interesting. I feel like, too, you know, I think I wouldn't, would you be surprised if there's some

kind of trade with Crosby where they somehow get maybe another first round pick? Like, there's, I don't think, I don't know if they keep all those pieces and it was weird how Crosby didn't play and he was pissed and stormed out of the building like there couldn't even be more. Because when the Lions were looking for him he was like, oh, I'm a Raider. Like I'm not leaving there.

And then to just kind of turn on him, the organization, I would be. I think another one that's interesting is Arizona and I know the track record, but you have really good young pieces. Like McBride as you know is a stud.

Marvin Harrison Jr., I still think can get there. They need a quarter, they need to solve a quarterback issue too. The defense has been actually pretty good. Tough division. But I think Arizona is an interesting one to kind of keep an eye because you have some young pieces there as well. So it's interesting.

Yeah, we talked about that on the show. Trey McBride had like the best season ever. No one knows. Yeah, he did the best Brock Bowers impersonation. And idiots like me who drafted Brock Bowers are like, wow, I really. What a year. Well, I hear all that. I do wonder with the Baltimore thing, like,

is Lamar going to be a raven? Was it like a Harbaugh or Lamar kind of situation? Similarly, too, with like Burrow. Are we, I know they're bringing back ever. Your boy, Nick Lechay, Matt, Annie, I don't know if you've seen this. I'll send it to you or go. Just one of the biggest Bengal fans ever. He's like advised the team before.

He wrote a 500-word Instagram post right after they announced they're bringing back Taylor and all the coaches. And he just, like every disgruntled fan, he was in the heart of every disgruntled fan. this post. And then there's people... I'm FaceTiming him right now. I'm going to see if he answers. Yeah, we can see you talk about. He has... Well, there's people trying to read into his Joe Burrow, then post something with Kanye's good life. We're in the song. It's like, it feels like L.A., it feels like Miami.

They're like, oh, he's going to Miami. Burroughs gone. We've reached that level with the bank. Wow. Yeah. He's not going to answer. It's all right. He's upset, Matt. I don't know if he wants to talk. He might not want to talk about it. I don't know how you keep Zach Taylor. That's just crazy to me. Somebody tweeted out, if it's broke, don't fix it. That's like the Bengals, the Bengals. I think, I think Baltimore also knows what they're going to do at that. I think they know who they want. You know what I mean? I think that's a calculated. It's calculated me. There's some more going to, like, I think they know who they're going to go get. It's a, I mean, anyone would take that job. Yeah. I think mentor is an interesting one for me.

I like Shula and Kubiak. I like those guys coming out. The coordinator thing is really working. I mean, they need, yeah, they need a coordinator to continue to develop that offense. I heard Lane Kiffin's available. Is he, though? Always. Lanes living a good life down in the bayou. Well, Annie, you are in the spotlight today because I, in our last episode, weeks ago, said, if I lose this week, I need a buy.

I need to sit out. I need to, I need to buy week. I need to go, I get reacquainted with the offense. And I thought that dick, it would be really fitting. You're resting your starters. For you to sit in this hot seat that I've been with liner just destroying me for weeks on end. So are you up for the challenge number one? I hope so.

All right. I don't know. I can't believe you're throwing in the towel, dude. I just. This is a new year. I'm going to miss the weekly like debate about who answered in a split-second schoonering. I need you to be a glass half full guy this year, not a glass half-empty. I just need someone...

That's my resolution for you, by the way. I need someone to go through what I go through so I could find out if I'm crazy or not. And that's what we're going to... I can't wait for Annie to kick my ass to. I think she's going to. Again, way too much confidence, but I appreciate it. Same format.

We're going to do three questions and two pictures. And, you know, I'll tell you what the theme of the pictures is. So you're not going in completely blind. We're going to start with the questions. Matt, are you ready? This is already a lot more fun when I know the answers. Okay. Any, you, Matt, we're ready.

Here we go. Question number one. Who was the last wild card team to win a Super Bowl? Oh my gosh. To win a Super Bowl? To win a Super Bowl. Wildcard team winning a Super Bowl. Careful, Annie, if you don't guess.

That's waiting for you to screw up so then he could get a hint. If you guess, then I get a free guess. Then Matt gets a free kind of guess. Oh, did they? Were they a wild card? I could give a hint if need be. I'm just going to throw in a Seattle. Seattle Seahawks, that is incorrect.

No. I'll take a hint, please, for 400, Jerry. I'll say it's within the last six years. That's the best I could do at the moment. Wait, don't say it because you're not, this is Matt's rule. You're not allowed to. Oh, I think they won't. Okay.

You can't talk. You can't talk right now. Dang it. You have to wait on him to take his sweet time. Dang it. This is painful, Jerry. I think you. I think we're a while.

I have one team and I, I think it's wrong. there or else we have to give it back to Annie. I'm going to go to the Rams. Rams are incorrect. Bengals. Bengals? They made the Super Bowl. They did not win the Super Bowl.

They did not win the Super Bowl. What are they talking about Andy? Hit number two. Hit number two. Team had a Hall of Fame quarterback. Not in the Hall of Fame, but will by far easily be in the Hall of Fame. The last six years. The last six years.

I mean, I would have got this one, guys. I know I'm looking at the answer. You would have gotten this one? I would have got it. With those two hints, I would have gotten it. I mean. Mahomes? Oh.

No. Wrong on Mahomes. Annie, last guest. And I'll just, we'll call it no question. God. Were the Bucs a wild card team? The Bucs were a wild card team. 2020.

New Orleans won the division at like 13 and 3 or 12 and 4. The Bucks were 11 and 5 and went on that magical. This is where this game gets out of hand after we, guess 19 times. 1-0. Agar. Let's go. Question number two. JSN was first in receiving yards this year.

Puka Nakua was second in receiving yards this year. Who finished third in receiving yards this season? Yeah. Can we raise our hand? Who? Can I just spit it out? Yeah. Dang it.

I should just answered. Matt did you answer? J.Mah Chase? Incorrect. No. Who could J.S. In receiving yards? Receiving yards.

Puka 2, JSN1. Who is three? Oh, my God. This is terrible. Don't look at your phone in. I have a second computer over here. Wait, wait a second. It's not, uh, in receiving yards.

It's not, uh, St. Brown, is it? No. Receiving yards. All right, so we get a hint. He gets St. Brown. I think I, I think I have an idea. Jason Buka, Jamar We'll start with this

Oh, no Do you want to venture a guess? No, I already Well, all right, how about this? I'll give you a hint I wouldn't even say He's not universally known as the number one Receiver on his team

Can I ask a question? No, that doesn't. That would make sense I mean, he's not considered the number one receiver on his team On his team Yep God, who killed? He would be considered the number two receiver on

his team. Oh, George Pickens. Correct. Oh, I was thinking that. I was thinking, AJ Brown. Oh, man. I'm trying to not give like direct hints of trying to go. Yeah, that was good.

That was good. Okay. Last one on the questions is one-one. Which team currently holds the longest playoff drought? Um, uh, a playoff drought. Wait, they have dolphins. No.

No. What? just made the playoff 2022. Oh, playoff drought is in the... They have not... Come on, Andy. This is where you can't... Oh, God.

I know this. I know it. I feel like you said it. I feel like you said it and you stopped yourself. I was thinking won a playoff game, but they've... Yeah. It's got to be the New York Jets. Correct.

Yeah. Dang it. You said, you're idiot. You went jet. I know. I know. Annie, you're in trouble now because pictures are my game. Pictures are my game.

You're getting dragged into the line of deep water. that in a video, too. It's been like 20 years. You said, go look at the videotape, everybody. She went jet, and you stopped. I know. I went like this. I want a playoff game.

How stupid. All right. Two one liner and now you're going into, you're going into the territory. You don't want to be. Stupid. The picture territory. It's not true.

She could be great at visual. So, you know, Matt knows anybody and everybody. Here is the category. The last team to make the playoffs with a below 500 record was the 20, Is it the 2014 Panthers? Yes. They did it again.

So we're going to give you pictures from that season. Okay. From 2014? You just have to name the player? Yeah. Are they Carolina players? Yes. That actual team, the 2014 Panthers.

Oh, got it. Okay. Let's see picture number one. Luke Keekly. Correct. Wow. Can I say something really quick? What?

She said the name before the picture popped up on my screen. Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you know. Is my Wi-Fi that much better? Matt, you survive on getting the thing out first. She said Luke Keekly and then his name popped up. I didn't even have a chance to say it.

I'm not lying. Do you guys both want to close your eyes and then I'll tell you when to open them? Oh, that's a good idea. That could be good, yeah. It literally just happened. This is the tie break. It's two, too. So both you close your eyes.

Do not cheat. Give me picture number two. And when I see it, I will tell you to open your eyes. Picture number two. Okay. Open your eyes. Calvin Benjamin. Correct.

For the win. That was a good one. Linear survives Agar. That was a good one. That would have taken me a minute. Calvin Benjamin. Name that college. Florida State.

Name that QB. Got me on the QB. James Winston. I was going to say Jameson. I didn't think it was the right time. Name the coach. They won the national championship that year. Name the coach.

That was that year? No, he is getting paid millions of millions of dollars to not coach anymore in college. Oh. Um, who is it? Shoot. Just give it to us. Jimbo Fisher. Oh, Jimbo Fisher.

2014. I think they won it 2013. Anyway, I know Benjamin was the receiver. Guys, that's what we should have done. We should have coached college football. I say we isn't. I can actually do that. And then just get fired.

It's the best position ever. It's the greatest gig. Being a backup quarterback in the league is a great gig, but being a fired coach with a buyout of like $80 million is amazing. See, it doesn't happen when acting. Actors get fired all the time. You get residuals. But I'm saying if you get fired, you don't really get shit.

I would love to sign like a seven-year TV show deal. You want to fire me after year one and pay out my seven years? See you. I'm good with it. I'm fine with it. Fire me. Annie, I can't thank you enough. How did you feel sitting in the city?

It's not as a weird. It's a weird seat. It's a weird seat. No, it's fun. It is fun. I was like, oh, it's fun to know the answers, but it's more fun to guess. But your brain kind of goes dead. Like the, the wildcard team. You're like, yeah. Yeah. That was hard. No, it was fun. Well, I appreciate you doing it. And thank you again, Twisted T for helping with this segment. Annie, we will, good luck to your Packers. Thanks, guys. Sending you positive vibes. And we'll see you next week. And it'll be on to round two or you're going to be already. I might be either. Either. really happy or I might be relocating out of Chicago. How does, how does, real quick, if the Packers lose this game, you do what? I know you're going to be upset, but like what happens to your world if the Packers lose? I'm, it's going to be bad. I told, I told my brother.

Will you cry? I would lose. Oh, absolutely. I would lose to any other team in the NFL and feel significantly better than losing to the Chicago Bears, specifically this year. Bears fans have been on me so much and they're so confident. And I know everybody's like, oh, like, before the season, Bears fans do me think they'd make the playoffs. But they have.

And now they're so not arrogant, I guess. Oh, cocky. Swagger. Why aren't you going? Are you going to the game? No, I thought about it, but I don't want to be in a sea of fans that hate me. So I'm going to go to even better. I'm going to go to a bar with three of my girlfriends who are all Bears fans.

Are you a live texter during a game or you phone away? No, I tweet. I live tweet during the game. Okay, because I have to be on my phone followers. I'll bring out, like, two phones and I'm like tweeting and putting out Instagram things. Oh, because I'm going to fire up some text to you during this game. Oh no! Wait

Annie, you have two phones? I do. Annie, you have a bat. You have a wire? It's like a drug dealer. Annie, what is that second phone for? For content, so if I'm tweet, if I like sitting on Twitter, right, because I have to get my emotions out immediately, but then I'll

double, like I'll share it to Instagram too. So sometimes while the tweets going up, I'll be on Instagram. You are a one person operation. You are. It's kind of And everybody's like, well, you don't enjoy the game, but I do. I just want to, like, that's the time to get content out because other Packers fans are feeling the same thing I'm

feeling, so I try to... I just got nervous. We're going to play a game during the game. I'm going to FaceTime you, and I'm going to see if you answer. I will, I'll be... Two phones are going to go off, an iPad's going to come out. She ain't answer it. See, I am a dark room

alone. Yeah, Jerry's like, life just turns off and no one... I want to eat my emotions. I need to go to the pantry. I like to leave a lot of plastic things around to throw because I'm a big like, so I'll like, you know, like those gallon jugs of water, I'll just, if it's empty, I'll pick that up and I'll shut. I call it wrecking the locker room. That's a great idea. I'll wreck my fake locker room. You know, it's like one of those rooms you break things in. Well, good luck. I'm really, I'm a pack of you. Yeah, good luck to speak for you because I don't want you to, I don't want you to smash two of your

phones. That means a lot. I appreciate it. We'll see, Andy. Good luck. all right thank you everybody for listening we are back it's 2026 we will be back next week we should have some good guests lined up for you we're going to start talking about our super bowl trip that we have planned out so make sure you tune in next week don't don't forget to like and subscribe thank you everybody have a good 2026 let's go I'm going skiing let's go