Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Taboo Sideline Conduct, Memorable Sports Conspiracies & Nick Swisher Previews the 2024 World Series!

Starting point is 00:00:00 I can't think of two better people to help me with this situation. My three and a half year old son, he has done everything lefty so far. Like he just naturally likes to swing, whether it's golf clubs. So I'm buying them lefty golf clubs, bottom of lefty glove. Just the other day, picks up a ball with the right hand and throws me an absolute dart bullet on a string. The throwing arm way better right handed hitting lefty and scooter, he scoots on his, his push-off foot is his left foot. What am I dealing with here? I am so confused by what this kid is. Any advice? That's fairly common, Jerry. Don't worry.

Starting point is 00:00:36 Can I also just point out the most obvious thing? He's three, bro. That's a good point. That's a good point. All right. Here we go. Another episode of throwbacks. Thank you everybody for joining us. However you are listening or watching us today Please remember to subscribe whether it's YouTube Apple Spotify and hit us up on our loss Oh and all why can't I say that Matt on all our socials? It's cuz you're nervous cuz you're nervous about the Yankees bro. Let's go at throwback

Starting point is 00:01:20 Oh, yeah, I can't speak today because the Yankees are in the World Series. Or you're still flustered about your Knicks opening loss. I don't know. It's one of those things. Nah, those... All right, we're jumping in. Those are the easiest losses to recover from, right? Getting blown out by 25. It's over by halftime.

Starting point is 00:01:36 Like, pack it in. Wasn't our day. Let's just move on. We got 81 more games to figure this out. I'm not worried at all. I cannot wait. I can out. I'm not worried at all. I cannot wait I can't believe I'm saying this. I cannot wait to go on this roller coaster ride with you during the NBA season It is a roller coaster man. I love I love hoops. I love I love hoops. I love sports

Starting point is 00:01:56 I love watching and I was I was uh, I think I tweeted out It's like I'm finding myself on a 4 30 in the afternoon in LA. By the way, I texted you. I was like, my wife is out of town. My mother-in-law took the kids out. My dogs are somewhere. I'm laying in bed before I had to do something. And I'm turning on a Knicks Celtics game. I sent you a photo.

Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm like, what is my life now? This is going to be my life now for the next five months, six months. Now that you've become friends with me, that is your life. But I will also say, if I'm able to get us to the garden and sit courtside, it'll mean that much more to you now that you did a little research and you've watched a little bit of Nick's action. Dude, I'm fine. By the way, I'm sitting courtside with you. I will fly off to New York for that. Are you kidding me? MSG. I went, I told you what, I took Cole to Knicks.

Starting point is 00:02:46 It was a random game. I was in New York, I think it was for the Heisman, years and years ago. Oh, that little thing, the little Heisman thing. And I had, yeah, it was for that. And I took Cole and we were sitting first row right behind the Knicks bench. Yep, that's crazy.

Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah, it was awesome. It was really cool. And I was talking to some of the trainers and the guys. I think it was like an SC guy there That was one of the trainers at the time. It was cool, man I was first time ever in MSG. So I was like, I'd love to go back. Well, it's an amazing time of year We got basketball everyone's got one game in obviously, we know the World Series starting off Friday. I know you I Believe in signs and this show is still relatively new but you being a Dodger fan and me being a Yankees fan

Starting point is 00:03:26 Six or seven episodes into this podcast and they're meeting in the World Series. I feel like it's a good time Respect to you because today joining us We have a New York Yankee from the last time they won the World Series in 09 Nick Swisher Same birthday as me Nick Swisher is gonna be joining us later to preview a little world series. Talk about his awesome home run Derby X that he does, which is like their version of big three or seven on seven football. It's really cool project too. But if you know Swisher, meaning publicly, you know his personality, if you're a baseball fan, one of the best personalities of all time in baseball. So he's a, he's going to be a great, he, he, I, I worked with him at Fox

Starting point is 00:04:06 because he was covering baseball at Fox for the years and we just hit it off and you know him. And his love for life, baseball, like he's just hilarious. He's a great dude. I'm so pumped and it's gonna be fun, man. It's gonna be fun to listen to him talk about Yankees. By the way, first of all, I respect the Yankees.

Starting point is 00:04:25 Grew up a Yankee, Dodger fan, but it's like, Yankees are Yankees. Jeter, and I'm excited to hear Swish talk about some of those guys, because he was a part of that epic team. So this one will have to get a little better, something, you know? And like you said, when we started this show,

Starting point is 00:04:43 our worlds collidedided but didn't collide back in the day in the in the 2000s when i was at sc and you were on entourage and now our squads dude are playing in their the first world like this is i'm telling you man you're my brother from another mother buddy so starting game one Well maybe you could help me out because this is now three weeks in a row that my I got my Twitter fingers going and it's getting reactions and I swear to everybody. I am not all but your own. I'm not doing this on purpose. I'm just asking questions or just putting out a point or a contrary point. So, look, Bill Simmons last week, and I listen to Simmons, basketball for me with Simmons,

Starting point is 00:05:30 I just enjoy listening to him talk basketball, but, and look, he's a Red Sox guy, hates the Yankees, I get it, sports hate is fun too, to watch a team, to watch a World Series just hating on one team, I get it. But he started doing the whole commenting on, oh, well the Yankees rode, they beat the Guardians, and they beat the Royals, ho-hum. I just think that's not a real thing.

Starting point is 00:05:52 And you played and won a championship. Did anybody question the USC route and path to get there and try to demean what you accomplished? Because I just think that means you're not watching. Cause nothing about the guardians struck me as easy. Yeah, I'm sorry. The Astros weren't there. They got smacked by the Titans.

Starting point is 00:06:14 It's just a, it's lazy. I think you said it. It's lazy. Football is different. I think when I look back at our title run, like we, you know, we, we had a couple of games where we could have lost against shitty teams and we found a way to win. Um, but the year we won oh four, we beat Oklahoma, who was number two in the

Starting point is 00:06:33 con. So it was one versus two. So like we, we proved it. I look, I think you could, you could like the Celtics run last year, like you could, you could pinpoint, Oh, what was it? Um, thank you about the Celtics run. I was at the war, the warriors when they went on a run and they didn't have to play somebody like, like you, you run into teams that they're missing. Like it just happens. It's sports. It's the laziest take in the world. Cause it is so hard to, to reach the pinnacle of your sport, no matter what it is, whether it's a super bowl, um, gosh, we went to, we went to a super bowl in Oh eight for the Cardinals. We were a wild card team. We were shit.

Starting point is 00:07:07 We were shit going, right? Yeah, we were 8-8. And no one expected us to win the first round. No one expected us to win the SEC Championship. Stuff happens. We were not the better team, but stuff happens. So the point is, is like, come on, dude. Come on.

Starting point is 00:07:21 I agree. We agree on this take. We agree on this take. I like it. Well, because also, I was at the stadium in Cleveland for game four.. I agree. We agree on this take. We agree on this take. I like it. Well, cause also I was at the stadium in Cleveland for game four and I've been to a lot of games. I've been to a few Yankees, ALDS games,

Starting point is 00:07:31 like first the twins, stuff like that. And I've been to a Knicks playoff game. By far, the most stressed out I've ever been sitting in a live sporting event was being the road fan in a playoff baseball game. The only time ever, Matt, I didn't get up to pee, I didn't drink water or be, I didn't eat, I did not consume one, I was hoodie up,

Starting point is 00:07:53 locked onto every moment during the commercial breaks, I actually took deep breaths, so. You have a Yankees, you wear a Yankees hat, or you wear just black? I don't listen, I don't like going to the, being the road fan, rocking all my stuff. I don't like going to the, being the road fan rocking all my stuff. I don't hate on people who do,

Starting point is 00:08:09 but also I just don't want to get trolled if someone happens to be an Entourage fan, see the Yankee hat and then start yelling turtle and insulting my whole acting career. I just don't need it. Like I could, I could still enjoy the game without rocking my team colors. I swear you give me so much stress listening to you talk about you watching sports.

Starting point is 00:08:28 Like I stress out listening to you talk about you at sporting events. Well this might stress you out even more because you know we had Barclay on two weeks ago. Everyone loved that interview by the way. He's the best and now he's back to to work. And he said something in the interview two weeks ago, which I agreed with in the time, because I didn't fully give it thought. And I've thought about it for the last two weeks. Now that we're one game into the NBA season,

Starting point is 00:08:55 he basically said, the NBA screwed up. They pissed off Brown and Tatum with how everything went down with the Olympics and all that and Maybe I'm just intentionally trying to take opposite takes I'm really not trying to piss people off But I I get this opportunity to ask you questions who have been in some of these situations Matt Do you put real credence to the fact that Brown getting left off the Olympic team and Jason Tatum struggling through the Olympics and getting?

Starting point is 00:09:24 DNPs have somehow motivated this Celtics team to repeat in a more dominant way than they maybe would have had that not happened. It's so interesting because I'm trying to put myself in my football locker room. And again, it's different because in basketball you got 80 games or 82 games, you got play, it gets a longer season.

Starting point is 00:09:48 So in football, every game matters, right? In basketball, like you said, the Knicks losing, it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter. They're gonna be a good team, they're gonna be in the playoff. There is something about bulletin board material. There is something about having a little extra for a game in a football world, right?

Starting point is 00:10:12 You're playing a team that might have been talking a ton of shit that week, and you're like, all right, hey, you know. We're gonna. Actually get to hit people. Yeah, you get to hit people. You're gonna give a little more this week. But in basketball, to me, I'm just,

Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm trying to figure this out, because in basketball, it's like, what are the, like what maybe we'll see that in the playoff, but what are we going to see? Are they going to lift weights harder? Are they going to are they going to jump higher? Are they going to like, play harder for 82 games? Like, again, I just think, like, I think, in their mind, Tatum being benched for the whole Olympics was like an F you for sure. I can I can only imagine how shitty that felt in that stage. Okay yeah I'm gonna might I'm gonna work on this part of my game. Brown obviously left off for other

Starting point is 00:10:54 reasons and and you know all that but like I don't know man I just don't know how like how do they like let me ask you like like how did they get better? How like a chip on their shoulder for 82 games of a season? Here's how I look at it. It's just so funny because I looked at teams who were trying to- I mean, they did go off game- Yeah, they smacked the Knicks. Did Jason Tatum hit seven threes because he was pissed off?

Starting point is 00:11:20 He got DMPs at the Olympic game? If anything, he's more rested. He didn't play for it. I know. But hear me out. Most NBA teams who are defending their title aren't necessarily run-it-back teams. Why didn't the Nuggets repeat as champions?

Starting point is 00:11:37 First of all, it's very hard to repeat no matter who you are. Well, that's the thing. Yeah, it's almost impossible. But also, Jamal Murray had a rough playoffs. They didn't have Bruce Brown. They didn't have Bruce Brown. They didn't have KCP. Their team was not different. Why didn't the Warriors repeat?

Starting point is 00:11:49 Well, they were ending a dynasty run. Their players got old and they still have to reboot. Why didn't Giannis and the Bucks win? Injuries, injuries. So barring injuries, this is the exact same Celtics team. I know KP's coming back, but they're great without them. I think the Olympic stuff will lead to saltier celebrations. I think you could take a bigger victory lap

Starting point is 00:12:15 if and when you win another championship or win 65 games. But there was nothing, even watching that Knicks game, so many people, Celtic fans on Twitter, like, you know, this is awesome. I'm so happy you played out. So Drew Holliday and Derek White would be not nearly as motivated to win because of what happened.

Starting point is 00:12:35 Jalen Brown wouldn't have put on a few extra pounds of muscle and worked on his game. And Tatum wouldn't have fixed his jumper, which was not necessarily broken. He was just off for a little bit. I just, I a little bit. I just, I don't know. I don't, it doesn't work for me. I think the Celtics are juggernauts. And it was clear that the Knicks

Starting point is 00:12:51 are nowhere near them just yet. I don't think anyone in the NBA is near them yet. There is a much different mentality winning a championship and having everybody coming after you as opposed to that. There's a different mentality. So for them, as you just said, like it's hard to repeat.

Starting point is 00:13:10 So it's like, does it give them extra motivation? These guys are grown men, they're professionals. In the peak of their careers. Yeah, it's like, again, like as you said, maybe it's a little bigger flex in the playoff. Maybe it's when they win another title in the postgame celebration They're gonna stick their middle finger up to everybody like that. But like Bro, I mean he's still lifting. He's still benching the same weight. I just don't think it affects it doesn't the overall point is

Starting point is 00:13:38 They will have some fun celebrations flipping everybody off I do not think it for one second affects any outcome of any game this year, but that might just be a dumb opinion and I'm not an athlete and what do I know? So that's it. That's all we got for basketball. Long road ahead. Matt, you're in for the ride with me. I appreciate it. Let's, let's talk a little football before we bring swisher swisher. And I mean, I can't even keep track anymore necessarily of what I am enjoying and not enjoying about football. Uh, the, the thing that stuck out to me over the weekend, you know, the Deshaun Watson

Starting point is 00:14:12 stuff, which you know, it's so crazy now in slow motion with these cameras. You could literally see some first of all, shame on the Browns fans, man. That's bullshit. Yeah. And I know a lot of people don't care. Yeah, sorry to cut. No, I don't care. As an athlete, I don't care what you do on the field,

Starting point is 00:14:30 off the field, baggage, whatever happens. But to essentially root for someone who gets hurt is bullshit. It's just bullshit. That's it. That's all I have to say. And I know a lot of people went back and forth, well, it's because he wasn't playing well, or well, they never took to it. It doesn't matter. It happened. It's it. That's all I know a lot of people went back and forth. Well, it's because he wasn't playing well

Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, they never took it doesn't matter. They it happened. It's over I don't know what happens from there for Deshaun Watson, but I was just thinking now. All right all the drama aside Now you're the Browns. I Love Stefanski. I think Stefanski is a really great coach what he did last year with the team was remarkable. I Start to look though. you're one and six. You got Nick Chubb back. Hell of a story. Jay Boog hitting the start too.

Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. Hello, Jamis. But they have to draft a quarterback, Matt. It's the only way. What's that gotta make, like 35 starting quarterbacks since what, like the 90s? Yes, it's true,, you tried the trade option. That didn't work.

Starting point is 00:15:28 You finally got your first round picks back and all that stuff. You are now positioned to potentially be a bottom three. You can't tank in football. It just doesn't work, right? You can't put a bad offensive lineman in cause someone might get killed. So I don't fully believe you can't tank, but you can but you can be very, very, very vanilla in your team. Right. You can be vanilla, but you can't put in someone who you know is going to just get beat because players could really get bad.

Starting point is 00:15:53 And also players are playing for a job. I mean, you can't go out and play bad. Yeah, like no. But I can't see an incentive for the Browns to really as an organization, I'm sorry to the fans because you're one in six, you're tied up with the Patriots and the Panthers. The Patriots, if they happen to get the number one or two pick, are not taking a quarterback. The Panthers, if they happen to get one or two, I don't, maybe they take a quarterback. All right. Barring any trade-ups though, you could be potentially in position to get whatever quarterback you want in this draft. I think they have to take that option right now. Well, and also this draft is,

Starting point is 00:16:25 last year's draft was great, right? Caleb, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Bo Nicks, JG McCr, I mean, it was record breaking. Six guys in the first round, Penics. This year, it's a little different. And again, we'll be talking about this during draft season because guys will fly up the boards, guys will kind of fly under the radar,

Starting point is 00:16:44 but you got, you know, Shador Sanders, you got Cam Ward, you got, you don't have necessarily an alpha quarterback. You're like sure fire, that's it. Really good players. Carson Beck, Quinn Ubers, you have a lot of guys there, but to take a quarterback one or two overall this year with the percentages of quarterbacks

Starting point is 00:17:06 never really making it from the first round. It's interesting. Again, again, these are just things that we, as we know, can set back an organization. So I'm with you Browns. I don't look, they should have never got rid of Baker Mayfield. Wow. That's the other thing. That's the extra, the extra kick in the balls is that Baker Mayfield is playing his ass off in Tampa and that's's his. That's the that's the only other option besides drafting a quarterback is, hey, why don't you go try to revitalize someone's career? And that's exactly what happened with Baker. I'm going to say something you're probably going to hate.

Starting point is 00:17:38 Brown's fans are probably going to say maybe they're going to turn this podcast off. I hope not. Do you even remotely consider Trading miles Garrett right now Yeah in the spirit of hey, this is a full rebuild we have the coach and if Stefanski wants to stay and I think the coach is great. He's the most valuable asset on the team He's gonna keep you in games probably. That's how damn good he is in defense.

Starting point is 00:18:06 By the way, he's also gonna wanna get out there in a year or two anyway. So why? You could get a hall for football standards, not NBA standards. It's kinda what we're potentially seeing with Max Crosby. And I know like, if you're gonna tank or you're gonna, you know, like,

Starting point is 00:18:20 Rebuild, call it a rebuild. Rebuild, you're gonna get a first round, I mean, whatever you're gonna get for Miles Garrett. And then you start to stack your picks and you start to build. If you do believe in Stefanski and what they can do there. The problem is, again, we talked about this, man, Cleveland is, I mean, Cleveland just does that. It's not a winning culture. It's not a winning culture. You can point to a million different things. It's just, I mean, when was the last time the Cleveland Browns were relevant? The were relevant the last year they had some flow They went to the playoffs with Baker a couple years back and then the flacco

Starting point is 00:18:51 Renaissance last year six different quarterbacks the fans key won 11 games and but they got wrecked by the Texans in the first round Yeah, so I mean bad ever since Well, I have a heart for them because as a Nick fan I know what it's like to not have your first round pick for a few years. I know what it's like to have a player that maybe, okay, that was a bad choice. Anyway, that was just what's on my mind. The Garrett thing, I was just thinking, how do you make the team better? That's your most valuable thing and he's going to probably keep you in some games maybe defensively.

Starting point is 00:19:21 But to me, that's not the best, not the thing that I really wanted to talk about with football. We saw... Wait, real quick. One, by the way, one and six just sucks in the NFL, dude. I've been there. You're out. Yeah. No, it's just every day going to work is tough when you're... Yeah, because you got to go run, you got to go throw your body into people knowing that there's no reward at the end of the season. You're like, what am I doing? Basically you're playing for a job and you're playing to have a job the following year. Yeah. Well, the other football thing that I just thought was brought up some questions that

Starting point is 00:19:54 for me to ask you, we all saw the Rogers, Diddy, Diddy Nottie, the booger, right? And then he goes on McAfee, great job breaking it down. So good. Roger's taking full ownership. Like I could see where you might think that, but it led me to think, okay. Basketball players know they're on camera at all times. They cover their mouth to a point where they won't even talk to each other without their hand over their mouth because they don't want lip readers to read what they're saying. Football, you have a little more place to hide. There's way more players. There's way more going up, but there's also way more cameras probably. Well, you don't know where the cameras are. And you don't know where they are. So, Roger's got caught there for a moment. Maybe he forgot that he's always on camera probably for the whole game.

Starting point is 00:20:40 What is going on that sideline that you either the camera's captured and you hope they don't use or you didn't even know the cameras captured? What is happening? Matt liner, you've been there. You've done it. Have you gotten caught before? No, but well, one, I want to pose this question and we're going to have you ever eaten a booger? Not of memory. Can I say that when I was three years old, I didn't eat a booger? No, I can't see that. I used to eat my boogers a lot when I was a kid. And you remember this! Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. It's gross, bro. I know it's gross.

Starting point is 00:21:15 But I mean, it's like asking someone, do you pee in the shower? And they say, no, I don't ever pee in the shower. I feel like that's different. I feel like peeing in the shower and eating a Booker is two, two very different things. Peeing in a pool. I'm like, are you, my kids are like, my wife is like, no, they, I'm like, what are you talking about? Take a piss in the pool, dude. It's all good. This just happened for us this weekend. There was a late pool fall day that happened. My five year old gets out of the pool to pee. Yeah. Well, I never told him that. He just

Starting point is 00:21:42 doesn't. He just gets out. My three year old will, will get out of the the pool to take a shit right next right on the little field turf because I'm like, we'll sit in the jacuzzi and he's like, daddy, I gotta go potty. I'm like one or two, because if it's one, I say, just go to, I gotta go poop. All right, dude, just go right there. I'll pick it up. Like, it's like, it's a piece of dog shit. Okay. Anyway, to answer your question. So, it's so funny, okay, so it's different, it is different. The biggest thing on a sideline for football is if whether you have to go to the bathroom or not, right? People always ask me, like,

Starting point is 00:22:15 how do you not go to the bathroom for two hours? Again, you're drinking Gatorade or water or all sorts of stuff, whatever. And so, two stories, one time at USC, I shit you not dude. I pissed my pants on the sideline. Almost got spit take from me right there. I'm not even making this up. I think it was 03 and I'm sitting there.

Starting point is 00:22:37 I don't remember what game it was, but it was a home game. And I'm sitting there and we had our yellow pants And we had our yellow pants and I'm sitting there and I wore like tube socks. You know, I didn't look great when I dressed. I just wore like normal white tube socks you'd wear. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, dude, I had a pee. And like, I couldn't run up the tunnels, a long walk. And I'm telling my boys, I'm like, dude,

Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm taking a piss right now. And they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you, dude? And all of a sudden, and the football pants are tied around the knees, right? Yeah. This was, yeah, this was like right around the knees. And jockstrap, cup on? No cup?

Starting point is 00:23:14 No, I wore tights, like tights. You don't wear a cup in football, dude. I don't know, well, you're asking the guy who played. You wear a jock, a lot of guys wore just a jock, or you can wear like little tight tight like spandex, right? And all of a sudden you just get like just dribbles going down my calf into my white sock. My sock was yellow.

Starting point is 00:23:34 Okay. So that was one. And I was like, and I'll tell that I'll never forget. I was like, that's pretty cool. So I saw this has happened a lot, but I remember being in Houston and this is to your point about the camera. So like, what happens is, is basically you have like the, in the middle of the 50 yard line, because one side is offense, one side is defense,

Starting point is 00:23:54 typically where you go to your benches. And in the middle, you have your table of Gatorade water, trash can. There's just like that little middle center, right? Where you go and get all your stuff. That's where usually you go and take a pee. And so what happens is you get to a trainer and you go, hey, dude, I got to take a piss,

Starting point is 00:24:11 can you cover me real quick? So they stand over you and they, you know, they put towels like this around you to the side, okay? Really? For those listening, I'm holding like a book to the side. Yeah, they'll put towels around. Like you were a kid, like changing at the pool when you were a kid. Yeah, they'll drape you because of cameras.

Starting point is 00:24:28 They're all over side to side. And you're on a knee. And the best part about this, dude. I'm lost right now, Liner. You're talking about you dropping your drawers and peeing? No, no, no. I'm on my knees peeing behind the Gatorade water table that is about three feet high.

Starting point is 00:24:46 So you're sitting, it's almost like you're going on your knees peeing behind a tree. But the only thing that the people can see are your eyes like this. Can you imagine? So you imagine the table is like at eyesight. So everyone knows you're pissing now, you're just covered.

Starting point is 00:25:00 Oh, your teammates are like, again, you're in the, half the people don't even care because I would say 10 times a game, people are just, dude, I got to take a piss real quick. And they just sit down, again, you're in the like, half the people don't even care. Because I would say 10 times a game, people are just dude, I got to take a piss real quick. And they just sit down, go and then they run out for like kickoff or something. But I always think it's funny because I'm sitting there. And like, and usually eyes are on a quarterback, whether you're the starter, the backup, whatever. And I'm sitting there

Starting point is 00:25:20 peeing, my eyes are like creeping out like I'm sneaking. And I'm just looking like this, like 80,000 people have just taken a piss in the grass. I'm wondering, is there a camera on me? I'm wondering if someone's going to point to me while I'm peeing. It's like the greatest 60 seconds ever, dude. It's hilarious. So that shit happens all the time. That's fascinating. No one, and I've never heard anyone talk, I've never heard anyone talk about it. Yeah, I mean, like baseball, you got a clubhouse.

Starting point is 00:25:46 You go. Basketball, it's a lot closer. You know you're out for a few minutes, too, with basketball. You get pulled out, you know you're out. Football, you could be thrown in. What happens if you went up to go take a piss and there's an interception? And now it's like, oh, the backup's in.

Starting point is 00:26:00 We don't know if line or till maybe something happened to the liner. You've had to do that sometimes if there's like equipment malfunction. If you got to go number two. Yeah. I mean, well, now they have the blue tent. So now I'm assuming like when you have the blue tent. Is that a porta potty too?

Starting point is 00:26:14 Does that double as a porta potty? Well, when we get a football dude on, we'll ask. But it's my, how many times guys pee on the sideline? Eating, obviously we've seen a lot of people eating on the sideline, eating, obviously, we've seen a lot of people eating on the sideline. Dude, how about Baker just popping a Zin last week? Strong move. Like second quarters.

Starting point is 00:26:32 Because he knows he's on camera. He knows that's going to be seeing me. I mean, he was trying to be discreet. I will say this. This goes without saying, we never, he's not doing that knowing he's on camera. Of course. That is like him needing, dude, I need a Zen. But he could have faked a piss and got covered up and then popped the Zen with the towels

Starting point is 00:26:52 around him. I mean, dude, we're going to get Baker on throwbacks because Baker's fucking hilarious. I feel like I played Halo online with Baker for one second. And then really quick. So with the acting version of that. Yeah. What is it? Well, here's what sucks about it with acting. If you have to go during a take, you can go and sometimes it's like a golf cart ride away or something. You can't be discreet because you'll go tell an AD, Hey, I really got to go. They'll ask you to

Starting point is 00:27:18 hold it. Can you wait? And most of the time you say yes, but when you can't, that's fine. But then everyone on the walkie, you know, every crew member has a walkie and earphone. So all you hear, and they call it, you know, going 10-1, 10-100. That's code for this guy's got to use the bathroom. But you hear every walkie going, everyone, we're going to need five. Jerry's going 10-1. Jerry's going... And all in my mind, I think everyone's hearing, Jerry's going to take a shit. We'll be right back. Jerry's going to take a shit.

Starting point is 00:27:44 We have to wait here. So you have 80 people different than 60,000 people. Dude, sometimes on our show, because we get mic'd up and our mics sometimes are hot. Like sometimes, this was more back in the studio. If you had to go to the bathroom, I'm in the bathroom peeing and you can still hear people talking in your ear.

Starting point is 00:28:06 Like I'm pretty sure they can hear me taking a piss. Oh no. Yeah, it's like one of those. So acting is a little, I will imagine kind of similarly like having a kiss on screen and like having bad breath, like just funny shit that happens. Like has that happened to you?

Starting point is 00:28:26 That would be my worst nightmare. Making out with a hot girl and like, you're like. Yeah, all that stuff is terrible in general. I don't know what anyone's opinion is on when you watch it, love scene or kissing scene. From my experience, again, that's not in my skill set. I don't really get asked to do that often, which is good I did have one one actress say to me one time we had to have like a quick kissing scene and literally so I'm so sorry I had like a

Starting point is 00:28:52 lot of onions at lunch I apologize I'm like well you knew we were doing this after lunch why would you say she's just saying she's saying that so that she doesn't get embarrassed so she already set the she set the record maybe but like either way if you if you knew we were shooting this scene after lunch, why did you have the onions? I'm popping like 47 minutes before I go on. Altoids are flowing. Wow. All right. That's football everybody. That's our, that's our thoughts on football. No, I guess last quick thing. A lot of bathroom breaks on the sideline guys.

Starting point is 00:29:21 Last quick thing. Chief's got themselves a wide receiver. I mean, the rich get richer. They kind of had to do it. But to me that just solidifies a team that really didn't even need to solidify anything. A team, a team, a team that understands well, and also to like, and I love D hop man, big D hop fan, great dude. Um, it's just a team, a culture that knows how to win, obviously, understands what they need and goes out and gets it. And it's also on the side of that you have players that want to go be a part of greatness and especially D hop who's like,

Starting point is 00:29:56 you know, like the second half of his career. Yeah, like it's and but by the way can still play like a number one receiver. He's just been hidden away in Tennessee the last two years, you know? So a big gift for the Chiefs, Mahomes, he'll fit right in. I thought they were going to lose that Niners game. I thought if any game, like the Niners have to have it, if the Chiefs could not, they'll never take a week off, but they don't necessarily have to, they have a stranglehold on the division. But have you seen Mahomes? Like, this is the thing about them.

Starting point is 00:30:24 This is why he's great. His numbers are awful. Like, no, I think he would tell you that, but it doesn't matter. Like he's got like third and MVP odds. He's got like eight, I don't even know, like eight interceptions, like eight touchdowns, but they're undefeated.

Starting point is 00:30:39 And then when that dude, when the playoffs come, I mean, this is just what they do. And that's to me from a, from being in around teams and perspective, like that's what makes them great, man. Cause they don't give a shit about all that other stuff. Well, his worst statistical season, and I think he's still third best odds or second best. Patty, for Patty, my home's peace. Yeah. Good luck Hopkins. All right. But we are going to do, uh, what has become my favorite segment. Shout out to Wendy's because the doorbell rang the other day and, you know, I'm still,

Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm old enough now and the doorbell rings. I'm still like, who could that be? It was one o'clock in the afternoon. I open it and it was a Wendy's delivery. I had some saucy nugs delivered. I'll say, tell me you got some saucy nugs. Saucy nugs with a nice little soft drink and also I was starving and I was I happened to be saying what the hell am I gonna eat for lunch and it just showed up at my door so shout out Wendy's for that and now we're gonna do our favorite segment I kind of and I love mine this week but we're gonna do our Wendy's we can't get enough sauce

Starting point is 00:31:41 our saucy moment of the week I got one that I'm a big, you have yours? Okay, I'll go first because I want to go first. I'll go first and quick because I want you, I want you to have the floor. What was your can't get enough? So my, my can't get enough was LeBron and Brawny James this week. Oh, okay. And listen, I think that no matter which way you view this whole thing, right? Bronnie being on Lakers, whatever. That moment and before with the Griffys being there, who was my favorite baseball player growing up,

Starting point is 00:32:16 he got to play with Ken Griffey Senior. And the mic'd up of LeBron saying, are you ready? Like gives me kind of goosebumps. And like just imagine, and we talk about our kids all the time in the sports and what it's like to watch them grow up and play sports, but like to have your son play with you on the Los Angeles Lakers in an NBA game.

Starting point is 00:32:38 What a cool moment, man, for sports, but also as a dad for LeBron. So that's my moment of the week. Saucy, that's pretty saucy. What a great moment. I shed a little tear, got a little emotional. It was an awesome moment. So really cool for the James family.

Starting point is 00:32:55 All right. Okay, well, I don't know how you follow LeBron James and Bronnie James as your Wendy's, you know, saucy player of the week. But do you know who Jake Bates is? Have you heard this name before? You don't know Jake Bates. It's okay. You don't have to know Jake Bates. He's the kicker. He is the kicker, the rookie kicker on the Detroit Lions gave his post-game

Starting point is 00:33:17 interview saying, I thought my football career was done. I don't know if he said I was selling bricks or breaks. One of the two. Bricks. Bricks. I don't know if he said I was selling bricks or breaks one of the two bricks. Oh I don't know. I watched it. Yeah, it was bricks I thought maybe at one point he said breaks either way dude is 10 for 10 on the year He I mean he's 20 for 21 on extra points. He didn't miss one extra point We'll forgive you and then kicking a game winner that game was awesome Vikings line game first game of the year

Starting point is 00:33:43 I actually said this feels like a playoff game. We may very well see these two teams in the playoffs. And dude, you're on the Lions right now. You are going to be put in that situation a lot, Jake Bates. I'm rooting for you. Okay. You are my Wendy's. Can't get enough of this player. This saucy moment of the week. That's mine. Shout outs Jake Bates. Make some kicks, baby. I'm always anti-kicker, but that story got me. Selling bricks. Go get yourself some saucy love, Jake Bates.

Starting point is 00:34:14 That's a great throwbacks idea, too. What, best redemption stories? Yeah, like going from like Kurt Warner bagging groceries to winning a Super Bowl. Well, you're on the clock this week to pick your throwback three. Should we say it now or do you want to hold it? No, we'll wait. We'll wait. We'll wait for it. All right. Shout out to the James and Bates man. Saucy.

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Starting point is 00:35:57 And your Tampa Bay vacation includes good times, relaxation, and great Gulf Coast weather. Visit flyporter.com and actually enjoy economy. We're just we're we're just rocking right now Jerry. We just going. We are recording. We already previewed Nick earlier. Not that we need to preview a much but thank you for doing this Nick. Number one though I was telling Matt right I just got to see you in the Bahamas a few weeks back at the Turn 2 Foundation. Hold on hold on boys Hold on real quick. Oh, is Matt going to get his Heisman trophy? Oh no, he's putting a Dodgers, really cool Dodgers warmup

Starting point is 00:36:35 jacket on his chair. We don't recognize that Nick, but I was telling people like the coolest part of that trip for me was it was me, you, Kevin Connelly and CeCe. We just got to talk Yankees and we were like talking Soto and all this before the playoff run. And I mean, that guy's just etching himself into one of the greatest like one year seasons for the Yankees. Right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:01 I mean, if you think about it, I mean, when you know, when everything happened this off season, this past off season, when Juan came over to the Bronx and you lost somebody like a Michael King, who is just absolutely over there in San Diego doing his thing. It's just the names that this cat is 25 years old and he has the presence, I mean, come on, fellas, we've been around athletes our whole lives, we've seen athletes at the top of their game, and the fact that this kid is, he's a kid, he's 25 years old and commands the respect of everybody.

Starting point is 00:37:40 It's been absolutely amazing to watch him go about his work. He has done nothing but take the New York Yankees from a championship caliber organization, even to a more championship caliber organization. The things he's done for the players, not only in the big leagues, but even in the minor leagues. Now all of a sudden you have somebody a little different to look up to, instead of Aaron Judge. So nobody's gonna have Aaron Judge sort of power.

Starting point is 00:38:03 So the next thing you know, you get Juan comes in and all of a sudden he's got a little different work ethic. The way that he works in the batting cage is a little different than what Aaron does. So now all of a sudden you're bringing a contact player plus power over to really, really kind of, um, propel those young players into the players they could be. So for him, Judge, Big G is doing his thing right now, man. It's just been a lot of fun to watch. And I'm really, really excited. We've been waiting for this sort of matchup for hell. Yeah. East coast, west coast, MVP, MVP. Let's do this baby. Let's square them up. Two heavyweight

Starting point is 00:38:37 fighters, baby. Go and I can't wait, man. I can't wait. Actually. I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I got my Dodgers hat on. I'm a lifelong Dodger fan. You guys know this and I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I got my Dodgers hat on. I'm a lifelong Dodger fan. You guys know this and I'm, I'm, it's two versus one, but it's okay. Swift. You're like my favorite dude in the world. I love you. But so, I mean, look, Soto, John Carlo judge, and then Otani bets. I think Freddie Freeman is probably going to be, I mean, it's, it's stars and stars

Starting point is 00:39:03 and stars for the game of baseball. And this is what everybody wanted. I, it just, just like, like, it doesn't get any better than this. What we're about to witness on the biggest stage. Yeah, it really doesn't. And I think, you know, you, you hear a lot of things from two types of fans. You hear about the fan saying, Oh, these are the evil empires. These are the most expensive teams.

Starting point is 00:39:24 They should be playing in the world Series. And maybe you're right. I mean, the ROI on $300 million. If you think about it, we haven't had a matchup like this in, I can't remember the last time to number one seeds, both from the American league and the national league. I mean, I'd like to look back at this series about 10 years from now and to see how many players have the opportunity to end up in the Hall of Fame from these two teams. If you think about it, absolutely fantastic. So I think just in general, man, I can't wait, Maddie. I'm going to be out there in LA on Friday. Oh, the stadium. Check it all out. Feel the vibes there. I was able to be there in the Bronx for the ALCS and the atmosphere was absolutely electric, man. You know, Chavez is going to be cranking Friday night. There's actually a small chance that Jerry and I

Starting point is 00:40:11 will be at game five in New York, assuming there's a game five. I can't imagine the team is getting swept in this, but in the Bronx, game five, I've never been in New York stadium, but Chavez this weekend with all the LA sports, but you know, the fans can be rolling in a little late 405 traffic down there, but it's going to be pumping. It's going to be pumping, dude. Let's go. Absolutely electric. I mean,

Starting point is 00:40:35 the team kind of the team flies out today. So everybody's going to go out and get a great workout in tomorrow. And then obviously Friday night, baby. A.O.A. Eastern Standard Time, 505 West Coast, baby. I feel I feel like we should suit you up and you just get one more bat for the Swisher. Swisher could for sure right now get us a single or draw a walk if we needed them to. I guarantee it. I don't change. Right. Like, you know what they say with basketball? Like, maybe you can't dribble as much, but if you could shoot, you could always shoot. What's the baseball equivalent?

Starting point is 00:41:07 I feel like just pitch selection or just no one had to hit a gapper, that don't change. Yeah, but fellas, you got to remember, man, when I played a decade ago, baby, most fastballs were like 92, 94. You know what I mean? Now times have changed a little bit. I mean, it just seems like the athlete nowadays.

Starting point is 00:41:23 And you know, I mean, I'm sure you guys see it in your respected sports for sure. I mean, you know, Maddie, just with what's happening in football and Jerry, bro, just with everything, bro, from basketball to the whole nine, you've seen it all these athletes nowadays, bro, are freaks. These dudes are just absolutely just avatars running around. Amazing to see because I mean, I spend my whole day in the locker room like this. Hey, what's up boys? How you guys doing? Yo man, yo what's up G, Aaron, how you doing man? You know, like I'm not looking anybody

Starting point is 00:41:52 in the eye anymore, bro. Dude, well those dudes are monsters. I mean, Judge and John Carler are monsters. I've always actually wondered this because we always talk about a football, like the toughest position in sports and Jerry Harrison, did you play with Jerry? Yes, I did. He was part of that Oh, not a World Series team.

Starting point is 00:42:09 That's right. So Jerry, Jerry's my boy. We talk about this a lot. Like the hardest thing to do. And I always say, I played baseball. I was like, I think I could probably hit, I think I could put in play a 90 mile an hour fastball if I knew it was coming. I think I guess I think I could time it and put it in play. But now to hit 100 101 consistently with a dirty slider and all this. Is it is it the hardest as an athlete? Is it the hardest thing in sports is to hit a major league pitcher and in a bat? Yeah, you know, it's hard. It's got to be because, you know, in

Starting point is 00:42:43 a lot of other sports, you you have the opportunity to do those things. I mean, everyone talks about how hard golf is. I mean, Jerry, we know how hard golf is, right? But we have the same opportunity as pros to do the same thing, right? True. In baseball, there's not the equivalent to understand like how really quick it really is. You know, I mean, you can talk about the point four seconds from the time it leaves his hand till it hits the catcher's mitt that you have 0.12 seconds to decide what you're going to get. And then if you're going to swing or not. So it's just, I mean, I think statistically, I think scientifically, it has to be, listen, bro, I've never been in the pocket on a,

Starting point is 00:43:19 on a zero blitz bro, trying to read the defense either. So I don't understand how hard that is, but I think just in general, obviously I'm a little biased. You've seen so many different athletes come out and try this. I mean, Michael Jordan is one, probably one of the greatest athletes we've ever seen. And it took him a little bit of time to pick it up.

Starting point is 00:43:35 Now I'm not saying Mike couldn't play in the big leagues if he wouldn't have started off at an earlier age, but listen, man, I think sports nowadays are so, I mean, I look at the basketball scene, I see Wimby out there, I'm like, how the hell am I gonna get a shot over this guy? You know, how the hell am I gonna be able to do that? So I think baseball's definitely up there.

Starting point is 00:43:53 I think returning to serve in tennis would probably be up there as well. Anything quick twitch like that for sure, no doubt. All right, let's just get into this right now. And Matt, you jump into, I don't wanna make this just like Yankees only. I know it's two V one, but the Yankees will win the world series if dot dot dot happens. Like what needs to happen for this team to actually beat this amazing Dodgers team.

Starting point is 00:44:20 Starting pitchers give us like starting pitching gives length, right? If you look at both starting pitchers I think you'll probably hear a lot of guys talk about it, you know poppy a rod You know G they'll all be talking about this the starting pitchers You know you look at the Los Angeles Dodgers and they're rolling two and a half starting pitchers out It's crazy. You got Flaherty going you got Yamamoto and then you got Walker Bueller Who's just coming off a PJ the second one? So, you know if you look at the Yankees, you know, with where they are starting picture wise, they've got four quality starters that you're able to roll out as well as nasty Nester and Marcus Stroman that can come out of the bullpen and give you a couple innings. So

Starting point is 00:44:57 I think that's one of the things I noticed, at least in the ALCS was the, you know, the bullpen's got taxed a little bit. Yeah. When you're throwing, you're covering three, four, five innings a game. I mean, that has a tendency to tax on you, especially after 162 game season, as well as spring training. So, you know, it just kind of seems like right now the bullpens are rested up. But if you go game one and you only get two innings out of your starters and they got to cover seven, you know, obviously bro, with days, there's only two off days throughout this whole series after game two and then

Starting point is 00:45:27 after game five. So there's not a whole lot of time to rest up. So I think for me, that would be my biggest thing. I don't think it's going to be, I think it's going to be really hard to stop both of these offenses. I think offenses are absolutely fantastic. I can't remember the last playoff series that I've seen where there's been eight, 10 runs put up on a regular and that's exactly What the Dodgers are doing? so I mean with everything that happened in the in the Yankee series against the Guardians the Guardians gave the Yankees everything they could want bro and

Starting point is 00:45:54 Pulled out some great games And I think we were all blessed and lucky enough to watch those games and just there for a span of 72 hours, bro Baseball was like the greatest thing going that we had. So it's just very, very first. I was there. I was there after the big game after the big Noel home run. So that stadium was hyper. I will say there was a difference with at least in the section I was in.

Starting point is 00:46:20 Obviously, they were any time they pitched to stand and the fans are like screaming, why? But when Soto came up, you could hear a pin drop because everyone was terrified Yeah, was more than I say the batter that scared the Guardians fans the most even as great as Stanton was Was in fact Soto for sure and you know We talked about the the ROI on like, you know The Yankees payroll and a lot of the talk of the payroll,

Starting point is 00:46:46 like I know a lot of Guardians fans today and Cleveland are talking about our payroll and all that, but look, it's like a business model. They made the ALCS with the third lowest payroll. So it's hard to argue it doesn't work. I mean, that is not something, but I was like, that's not something any player during a playoff series say you know if we just had if he just spent a little more money And we had our own guy you guys aren't thinking about that so why should fans be yelling about that

Starting point is 00:47:14 Yeah, no, I mean listen You know I mean if you look at the three out of the four teams that were playing in the Championship series three out of the four were the highest paid teams in baseball right? That's the Dodgers and the Yankees. So it's not always like that. You know, you know, like we were talking earlier, the two evil empires, the most expensive teams. I can't remember the last time the two most expensive teams were playing and suiting up. That's my point. Right.

Starting point is 00:47:36 It just doesn't happen that often. You know, but going back to that Cleveland series that you were talking about that at bat for Juan Soto, Joe and I, my wife, you know know, we were both watching the game just like so intensely, bro. And Juan's up, bro, and he's taking them pitches, bro, and he's giving you the Soto shuffle, and he's nodding his head, you know? And he's like, oh yeah, I'm on it, I'm on it. And Joe and I are watching the at bat,

Starting point is 00:47:58 and I'm looking at her and she's looking at me, and she's like, Nick, he's on it, he's on it, he's on it. And I'm like, well, how do you know that? She's like, baby, I've been watching you play like forever. Like I can tell when she studies people. She's an actor. She studies people. I can tell you when somebody's on and when somebody's off, bro. And the best part about that at bat was every pitch that he was fouling off was a put away pitch. Yeah. It wasn't like just a, you know, like a a measly wrinkle get me over. Oh, bro, these were nasty dirty singers, changeups, live pieces like moving like this. And but when he clipped on that fastball, because you know, that's what he

Starting point is 00:48:36 was waiting for. And the one thing that I really, really appreciate about Juan Soto is if you're watching him when he gets into it, that's where he doesn't necessarily feel comfortable. You see him choke up on his bat a little bit more. And there's something to be said about that for young players out there everywhere. That if Juan Soto can choke up on a bat, you can choke up on a bat too. Hell yeah. I just think it's one of those things, bro. And he got that heater. And let's be honest, it wasn't, it wasn't a bad fastball. It was a fastball up and away at 95 with good ride and the whole nine.

Starting point is 00:49:08 And for some reason, and some, I don't even know how it happened. He got on top of that fastball and was somehow able to draw it out there to right center, bro, and to leave the ballpark. And the best part about that was, is just like every baseball players ever wanted to do, stop right in front of this dugout, flex in front of the whole team,

Starting point is 00:49:30 dude, you know what I mean? And then go about your way around the bases. So he's just been an absolute, just a joy to have over in the Bronx for this year. Obviously, I pray to God that he's going to be a New York Yankee for the rest of his career. Who knows? But at the end of the day, man, being able to watch him work in person has been a joy to watch for sure. Some of the greatest sports flexes that I love as an athlete, like touchdown celebrations or kind of whatever, when Tiger Woods and his prime would do the fist bump and just get the whole, like, it gives me chills now. And honestly, being a baseball player growing up the bat flip and just staring down your dugout the flex while 80,000 and running around the bases

Starting point is 00:50:14 it's literally I got goosebumps right now it's literally has to be the greatest feeling on the planet dude the planet. Oh yeah there's no nowadays, bro, with the way the athletes can pimp home runs, bro, I was just pimpin. I was gonna catch one in the ear my next to bad. You pimp the home run. You pimp. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the guy behind me didn't like it. But I mean, bro, come on, could you imagine just being a situation like that? We're just emotions are so high. And everything is just running through you like you've never had before.

Starting point is 00:50:46 So, I mean, listen, I think that, you know, as impressive as that bat that Juan Soto has that home run that judge hit off, Klaus A, 99, cut her down in a way. Yeah. I mean, it's just amazing just what these athletes are able to do today. So for me, I'm obviously in such awe and obviously just being able to be

Starting point is 00:51:05 there and enjoy it up close and personal has been awesome as well. So I'm sure you never thought that you'd be sitting here 15 years, whatever later and the Yankees still haven't won a championship since your last one in 09. But I'm going to go back to 09 for a second. What are some of your besides winning the World Series, the actual games, what sticks out in your mind throughout that series? Because that's a great series. There's a lot of interesting records, like Utley tied the most home runs in the World Series, Matsui tied the single RBI game, Ryan Howard tied the most strikeouts in the World Series. I love Ryan Howard and a couple other and then Mariano got like

Starting point is 00:51:45 this. So what do you recall besides just winning the damn World Series from oh nine? Yeah, I think just in general, I think leadership is the first thing that comes to mind. You got to remember I was able to play with some stud players early in my career with guys like Eric Chavez and Jason Kendall and Mark Kotze. And then I got to go to Chicago and I got to play with Jim Tomey and Paul Canerco and Jermaine die. And then I got to go to Chicago and I got to play with Jim Tomey and Paul Canerco and Jermaine Dye. And then I get to come to New York and you reach the ultimate pinnacle of players with Derek Jeter and Mariana Rivera and Andy Pettit and A-Rod and Jorge Posada

Starting point is 00:52:18 and Robbie Cano. I mean, the list goes on and on. It was just kind of one of those years where it just felt like everything was supposed to happen that way. And, you know, I've been on teams before when we've been in good situations and we feel like we're going to be successful, but we just didn't have that confidence in who we were to put ourselves over the top. And I remember in 2006, I played in the ALCS with the Oakland A's and Frank Thomas was our big leader that year. And we just didn't have enough firepower to get past the Tigers that year. But I just remember being in the ALCS matching up against the Anaheim angels

Starting point is 00:52:51 who we didn't necessarily always play well against them. No, no. We look across the locker room and you see Derek and you see Rod and you see Posada and you see Mo and Pettit just walking around like it's another game and just like, hey fellas, let's just do our job. We got this. Don't worry about it. We're right where we need to be because you knew that somebody out of that group was going

Starting point is 00:53:15 to step up and be the hero. And that was kind of one of those things for myself. Just looking around that room being like, there's no way we can't win. Like we, it's not that we're going to win. It's there's no way we can't win. Like we, it's, it's not that we're gonna win. It's there's no way we're not going to win. You know, it just kind of seemed like that was one of those amazing things. And I do think there was a lot of Yankee ghosts that came over from the old stadium into the new first year of the new one. Yeah. Obviously, bro. And you know, the first year that the old Yankee stadium was built, the Yankees won the world series that year too. So

Starting point is 00:53:44 there's something to be said about that. I tell how all the time I'm like, how just wish me to build a couple of billion dollar stadiums every couple of years. I will be good to go. You know, so how you're, I mean, gosh, you met, you mentioned those names and I'm getting flashbacks and I was never an angels fan, obviously, but your, your, your personality is infectious to say the least. And you may get, you know, I've gotten to know A-Rod and Jeter, those guys are very different, quiet, kind of lead by example. How, like, how do you fit into a team like that?

Starting point is 00:54:14 Because you were a hell of a player, but you're like, I've been in locker rooms, we've been in locker rooms, there's different types of personalities. And sometimes it's hard to mesh all of that. How are you able to fit in with those types of guys, given the personality and the contagious personality that you have?

Starting point is 00:54:30 Two things. Number one, respect. As off the wall as I am, I am a very respectful human being. I just am. It's the way I was raised. If my grandma came back down here and saw me doing any other way,

Starting point is 00:54:44 I don't think she would have it. Uh, and number two, all I wanted to do was win. And that's all those guys wanted to do as well. And when you get a group of individuals, we, Hey bro, come on, man. You've been on, you've been on championship caliber winning teams. Like when you get a group of individuals together that have all the same thought processes moving forward as a unit, bro, it's so impressive. And that starts from the top down. The locker room was, was, was owned by Derek Jeter. He was the guy and we took his lead. And so for myself,

Starting point is 00:55:15 as, as, as much as I could be all over the place, all he had to do was give me a look and I knew exactly what that meant. And so it's just kind of one of those things where, you know, I've always kind of had this personality and I've always had to try and tone down for people. But for Derek and the New York Yankees, he didn't want me to tone it down. He wanted me to be me. And that was one of the more powerful things that I think anyone has ever given me was the ability to be myself. And that's why I think I thrive as well as I did in New York because I had people in my corner like the captain To help me get through those times and even though I was a little rambunctious He knew when to tone me down and then when to let me go and so I could not be more thankful for those guys

Starting point is 00:55:55 Because listen, you know how it is. He could have told me hey tone it down. We don't do that here That's not what we want but he knew that that was gonna take away from what I was able to do on the field. And that's why he was as great of a leader as he was, because he knew how to leader and mentor everybody for who they were. So I was just so blessed to be able to roll up in there. Now I've got five big brothers, brother,

Starting point is 00:56:17 I never had who have taught me so much about not only being an athlete, but about being a man and a great human being. And I could not be more blessed to have those guys in my life. Yeah, anyone telling you to tone it down can kick rocks, dude. I want to shout out to you guys though, because I remember we had this whole storyline on Entourage where we ended up shooting at Yankee Stadium, with A-Rod and Te'Chara, right? But that storyline was thought of a year before.

Starting point is 00:56:46 And when we reached out, I might even still have an email from T'Chara. A-Rod and T'Chara themselves sent backward, we ain't cameoing on Entourage until we win a ring. So shout outs to the new guys, because they didn't do it. It did not happen till after 09. It still took some time after that. But we got to shoot at Yankee Stadium is only because of that. Oh not championship

Starting point is 00:57:08 Oh, that's why it's one of my favorite Yankee championships because that led to us getting a rod and to share on the show How great was Tex in that episode he was fantastic, bro He was absolutely great. So I always have a soft spot for that. Uh, for that. Oh, no, I do that. Sorry, Matt. Are we killing you right now? Liner? Are we absolutely like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:57:36 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to a game. It happened. By the way, I have been a lot like you guys, because I have been completely disappointed in my Dodgers ever. We went to NLS, we went, we had the best record in the end and we can't get, by the way, Swish, that Padres series scared the shit out of me. Cause we, cause I think we all could agree, like the Padres could easily win the world series with that talent and that team. I'll tell you what, man, I was like game five.

Starting point is 00:58:05 I was like, we're going to, you know, I'm like, I'm like Jerry. I'm learning. I learned a lot about Jerry's as a Knicks fan. They're losing this week. They get their ass kicked by the Celtics and the group chat is going off and it's like, we suck. And they shoot this and all this. And I'm like, dude, it's one game.

Starting point is 00:58:20 But that's how I am with the Dodgers in the playoffs. So I'm going into, listen, I'm going into this series. I respect the Yankees, uh, you know, Stanton's in LA kid. We got, we got guys out there that are from the West coast. I love the Yankees, but you know what time it is, baby. By the way, who are, I should know this. Who are we throwing game one? Are we throwing a Flaherty? Because Flaherty got rocked his last time. Yeah, yeah, Jay Flair and Garrett Cole, game one. Yeah, Garrett Cole.

Starting point is 00:58:49 UCLA guy. Yes, sir. Well, by the way, man, you got Jack Flaherty, Harvard Westlake kid. If I'm not mistaken, I think he's from out there too. Can we talk about something real quick? Jerry and I were talking about this before. We've all thrown a first pitch.

Starting point is 00:59:02 We've been lucky to throw a first pitch. I know how I got to throw one. That's just not how you throw. Listen, OK, I know you weren't a pitcher, but you're an athlete. I thought your first pitch, like just this week or last week, great moment, by the way. Super cool for you, I'm sure. I want to hear just what that moment was like.

Starting point is 00:59:17 But you threw like a change up, dude. I thought you were going to throw a heater, bro. That's your opportunity. Yeah, on a thick jacket, Matt. Listen, you didn't 50 you didn't 50 Senate by any means, but you just threw a little casual like, come on, Nick Swisher, 50 Senate. All I'm thinking about is Derek Jeter sitting on my shoulder.

Starting point is 00:59:38 Just don't bounce it. Whatever you do. Yeah, that's the one thing. Yeah. You know, and just for me, man, I mean, come on. I mean, just look, how blessed am I, bro? I'm just I'm a nobody from a little small stop in West Virginia, bro, that like, work my way up now, so I'm throwing out a first pitch in the ALCS for the New York Yankees. I mean, talk about just like, my whole world is just has been made. And just being able to the fact that I'm part of this

Starting point is 01:00:04 organization, the fact that I'm part of this organization, the fact that I'm so blessed to be one of the fortunate ones that has the greatest logo in the world tattooed across my chest and being able to be part of that, man. I mean, listen, I think you guys knew that's how I was as a player. I mean, my relationship with the fans is on another level. So the fact that I'm so blessed to be able to have that relationship with them and to continue to keep growing that relationship moving forward

Starting point is 01:00:26 Listen boys. I'm not quite sure what i've got in store in my future here But I think it's got to be something with the new york yankees moving forward boys So I I made a prediction. I won't say it on the show for you. You and I know what it is By the way, that would be awesome Keep that off the air But here's why I love nick too because everything he said, and I don't know if you're going to remember this, Nick, do you remember the first time we ever met? If you don't, it's cool.

Starting point is 01:00:50 I get it. I remember it because it was way more special for me. Jerry was wearing your Jerry was wearing. That's not no, I was not wearing your jersey. But anyway, here's how we first met. And I'm bringing this up because you said this exact thing to me. This is an 09 because you just had gotten to the Yankees. So you just started dating your now wife. I was dating one of her good

Starting point is 01:01:10 friends. He went to a game. He went to a Yankees game. And then afterward, Joanna invited like, hey, come down to where I'm going to go see Nick, where they get out, come down. So we go down there and you know, you guys come out and I meet you for the first time and meet some other Yankees and then we all ended up going back to your place. So I got to hop in Swisher's car with the players part and I got to take that drive out of Yankee Stadium but from a much different point of view, right?

Starting point is 01:01:38 And I'm in my mind going, oh my God, this dude gets to do this 81 times. This is the coolest shit ever. And on the way, we got back to his place. He said that, he looked at me and we were just talking. He's like, Jerry, look at, he's like, I'm just some like guy from where I like, I cannot believe I'm playing for the Yankees.

Starting point is 01:01:55 I'm dating her. Like, look at us. And then we found out we have the same damn birthday too. November 25th. No doubt, bro, no doubt. Yep, so. I mean, you were able to be with us on that sort of journey, which was amazing. So I mean, bro, it just

Starting point is 01:02:08 goes to show you like if you treat people well, and you give people everything you've got each and every day, and they, you know, they sort of expect that. I mean, bro, we have like we had like our personal own like, policemen, crazy, well, would like, you know, like, we were driving on the wrong side of the street. Police escorts are the best thing in sports. That's the only way out of Yankee Stadium that I've seen. That is the coolest way.

Starting point is 01:02:37 Listen, but we can't before we let you go though, something else we talked about in the Bahamas, which I have then gotten to watch is everything you're doing with Home Run Derby X and all that. So like we set the table a little bit earlier with the audience in the intro, right? First, I want to know how did the Home Run Derby come to you? Like where did you come in? Cause I know, I know you're heavily, you're in now. This is your thing. Yeah, this is a thing, you know? And I feel like we've just been so blessed to be able to kind of provide a different kind of game for our baseball fans. I mean, listen, it thing, you know, and I feel like we've just been so blessed to be able to kind of provide a different kind of game for our baseball fans. I mean, listen, it's almost like the, you know, the seven

Starting point is 01:03:10 on seven version of football, right? Exactly. 10 t 20 and cricket, right? Or the big three in basketball. And the one thing that I think we've done a great job of is we've taken that to the next level. Not only is it a different sort of viewing for our fans, but now it's coed. And that means the next level, not only is it a different sort of viewing for our fans, but now it's coed. And that makes it the absolute best, but we've got some of the most badass softball, baseball female players that you could actually you could ever even want to see. And so I think for myself, just the fact that we're able to do that. Listen, I mean, I'm a girl dad fellas. So my daughters, they don't want to see me hit, bro. They want to see Jocelyn Aloe hit. And they want to see-

Starting point is 01:03:45 She rakes. She rakes. And they want to see Alex Hugo. And they just want to see Ashton Lansdale. And we've got all these amazing females that I have been blessed to develop a relationship with. And now I'm just like, wow, being able to see it from both sides.

Starting point is 01:04:01 My daughter started playing softball this year. Not because of me, but because of her idols she has now and how amazing these girls have treated her. People like Jesse Warren and just, they've just been so amazing to my daughter. Now all these female players are starting to get their own line of shoes and gloves. And now all of a sudden they're starting to come our way. And it's just one of those things where I'm so blessed to be able to part of that. Home Run Derby X is a three on three coed home run Derby offense and defense. It's absolutely amazing. We've been so blessed. We had four events

Starting point is 01:04:32 last year sold out everywhere we've been next year. I give you guys a little bit of insight. Yeah, come on. Give us a little break. A little next year, y'all seven events in 2025. We're really, really excited. Major League Baseball has been just the best partner you would ever want to be. You would ever want to have when it comes to these sort of things. So for us, I feel like we're doing an amazing job. Our leaders with kelem Salter and Charlie Hill have absolutely been rock stars and they brought in myself and Johnny gums. So

Starting point is 01:05:01 it's a little bit a little bit of WWE and a little bit of which is absolutely amazing. And you know, listen, we're going to continue to keep pushing this thing forward. We're going to do our best to try and get it out and get the brand out as much as we can. But I'm definitely going to be pumping it a little more. I appreciate y'all bringing it up, man. Dude, I think it's amazing. I really do. I want to take Matt, we should really, number one, we should take our kids to one of the seven events. And then I don know Maybe do we throw a bat in line or tan doesn't have to count? Well, maybe like an exhibition he thinks all rank them still to two things really quick. First of all, just We're seeing you know women's flag football grow and I think what you're now doing for softball

Starting point is 01:05:38 Just creating that exposure is awesome. And the fact that your girls are far that's awesome, man So so congrats to you, but I am reading this real quick. So the teams are comprised of a legend, a softball player, a player from that region's local development system, and then an influential content creator, which is a wild card. Matt liner folks. I mean, you're looking at two content creators right here. I didn't create, I see it.

Starting point is 01:06:03 Do we have an event coming to LA? I'm not, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no way. No, but let me ask you this question, Switch, are the fences, how far are the fences? So we shrink the field, right? Yeah, okay. Because you gotta remember dude,

Starting point is 01:06:16 not everybody's gonna be able to hit a baseball 400 plus feet, right? So what we do is we strategically place our field towards where most of the outfield stands are. So we use that as our home run kind of, we call it our home run alley, our home run porch. And then from there, there's a field goal in the middle of all of that.

Starting point is 01:06:36 And if you hit it through those field goals, you get double points. So what's great about that is that not only do you, are you hitting, which is amazing, but then you get to play defense as well. And that's what's great because that's cool. Rob some home runs. I saw you get the feet down and Rob. Is pro baby say college. Hey, what is what is you mentioned your girls real quick? I know we're running out of time. What is what is Nick Swisher like as a girl dad whose girls play sports? You're already laughing. I want to know.

Starting point is 01:07:11 He's getting better. He's getting better. It's a process. So you've got to remember fellas like you know up until now my oldest daughter Emmy she's 11 and my youngest sailor she's 8. We've been doing a lot of individual sports up until this year. So I haven't been exposed to the as I have this year, right, which has been at the end of the day, amazing, but I'm not going to lie. We had our evaluations, right? They are player evaluation. Yeah try out anymore. No, yeah Wild and there were 82 girls and my daughter was like 75 out of like 82 girls So she had a stand in line and just like, you know It took forever to get through the evaluations and brought me while done. I got my hood over got my hat like

Starting point is 01:08:05 Coaches, you know, I'm full like bowed up on the right field line. Just like keeping it all these coaches. You know, I want to see what's going down. And the best part of this, dude, is my best friend, Kate, she calls me and she's like, hey, how was it? And I was like, hey, you know, I'm a little stressed out. She's like, Nick, I need to give you a little piece of advice. And I was like, what's that? And she was like, this will be a great experience

Starting point is 01:08:27 for Emmy playing softball if you don't fuck it up. And she could not be more right. I have, listen, I showed up for the first game unprepared fellas. I mean, you gotta buy the chairs. Oh yeah, you have to have a chair. Like you gotta buy all that stuff, bro. I knew nothing about that stuff, but I can promise you got you got to buy the chairs. Oh, yeah, you have to have a chair Like you gotta buy all that stuff, bro I didn't I knew nothing about that stuff, but I can promise you this I'm six games in now gentlemen

Starting point is 01:08:50 Wait, you got it. See my setup I got y'all boys. I got you since Like oh god She's like Nick do I have to sit by you during this game? Since we're we're dadding out right now, I do need this. I can't think of two better people to help me with this situation. So my three and a half year old son who loves T ball is in T ball, right? He has done everything lefty so far. Like he just naturally likes to swing, whether it's golf clubs. So I'm buying them lefty golf clubs, bought him a lefty glove. But just the other day, he picks up a ball

Starting point is 01:09:30 with the right hand and throws me an absolute dart bullet on a string. So I'm like, hey, wait a minute. So I start making the throwing arm way better right handed hitting lefty and scooter. He scoots on his, his push off foot is his left foot. So Matt, you, hitting lefty, and Scooter, he scoots on his, his push-off foot is his left foot. So Matt, you're a lefty, Nick, you're a switch hitter, throw lefty, I think you were golfing righty in the Bahamas though, right? What am I dealing with here?

Starting point is 01:09:55 I don't, my older son was clearly right-handed. I am so confused by what this kid is. Any advice? What do I do? We're the same, because I throw left, I golf right, and I bat right, but I kick like I kick a ball left. I'm opposite. That's that's fairly common, Jerry. Don't worry. Is it? I'm from a family of right-handing, boring people with sports. There's all righties, nothing new. Can I also just point out the most obvious thing? He's three, bro.

Starting point is 01:10:23 just to point out the most obvious thing. He's three, bro. That's a good point. That's a good point. By the way, the fact that you're with his feet right now, bro, as long as he's enjoying what he's doing, and you get to spend time with him. Because listen, I know how much you love sports. And I know how much you love your kids. And the fact that you're able to spend time with them is such a blessing for all of us, Maddie, obviously, I see your kid on the gram, and what he's're able to spend time with them is such a blessing for all of us. Matty, obviously I see your kid on the gram and what he's been able to do

Starting point is 01:10:47 and kind of maybe following in your footsteps a little bit. That has to be such a blessing for you to be able to do that. It is the best, it's the best feeling and it's the best advice for all of us is just trying not to overstep and enjoy the ride because it really, like my oldest son turns 18 this week. It's mind boggling and he's going to play college football ideally and now my little

Starting point is 01:11:11 ones are four and a half and three and we got another one on the way. It's like 18 where did time go? So my advice always is like try not like be a dad coach do everything but enjoy the moment and enjoy the process and just the journey because it can be gone like that. And Jerry, it's okay, dude. Righty, lefty, listen. Yeah, bro. It don't matter, bro. I just don't want to start buying all the wrong stuff.

Starting point is 01:11:35 I got golf clubs, glove batting. I got all sorts of stuff. I'm buying the wrong stuff. I don't know what I have. I'm so confused. That's a good problem, man. We might be, you know. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:44 Hey, listen, man. Just enjoy the process, bro. You may be, we know that guy. We know the little guys are going to be a stick in golf, dude. You're talking to a guy whose kid just got his first compliment in soccer. So, but I'm listening. My goal, I'm with unit. My goal is to never embarrass my kids. Regardless of what I feel inside. I have a handle on my emotions. So like I, I'm never going to embarrass my kids on the field, but I can tell you what, I think we got to plan a little boy's trip and go to home run X, man. You got to work on that. I'm in man.

Starting point is 01:12:15 That's awesome. Swish. I know a guy that can get y'all tickets, man. I feel like you got the hookup, right? I'll get y'all some VIP tickets. Oh, also to Jerry, it's in the mail dog, your little boy, hey he's got a Yankee hat coming this way because I saw something on the gram the other day. They're trolling me. I know. They're trolling me. Make sure he gets the right hat on,

Starting point is 01:12:34 you know. I mean I think we got we got these new ones that just came out, you know what I'm saying, we got these ones right here. Oh don't tell me that's in the mail Swish. His wife just trolling them. So I got a few of those. Just make sure that address is in my text messages. We'll make sure that happens. Well, you're the man. Listen, I'll take a judge signed jersey. That's what I'll take.

Starting point is 01:12:56 By the way, man, wouldn't we all, Matty? Hey, I want to say, well, two things. OH. I-O, baby. I-O. You've been watching the boys, man. Hey, that Oregon game was a tough one. It was a tough one.

Starting point is 01:13:08 We're in Ohio this weekend. And we're going to be there quite a bit over the next six weeks. I expect to see you out there. They're going to make a run. And then I want to say this. Love you, boys. Good luck to your Yankees this series, OK?

Starting point is 01:13:20 Good luck to your Yankees. May the best team win. I mean, honestly, you know who I'm rooting for. I think you know who Jerry's rooting for. But the fact that our game is finally getting the matchup that we want, right? Is just one of those things, bro. We've been waiting on this for a minute. East coast, West coast, bro. For real, man. It just seems like there's so many things that are going on. And obviously, you know, Hey, Dodger Stadium is going to be on fire. I know it's going to be on. Well, I enjoy it, man, because you're going to be in LA.

Starting point is 01:13:49 So enjoy all of it. I'm going to be there in LA. I and then when you guys get your tickets all locked up, I'll be there game five for sure. I think Joe's going to fly up to she wants to come to one of the games. So we'll all be there, man. So make sure y'all let me know when you get up there. But I'm about to fire off this group chat after this. Yeah, yeah, no, because we got we got a little we got to have we got to have a wager on this as well. Although you might not, you know, Swiss, you're part of the Yankees organization.

Starting point is 01:14:13 You might not be able to wager, but we'll do something friendly. We'll do something. All right. I'm in for that. I'm in for that. Nick can't thank you enough. Love to the best. Enjoy the World Series. Home Run Derby X. Oh, yeah. There you're the best man. Take care. Love you, bro. Thanks for coming on. Hey, Home Run Derby X. We'll see you there. You're the best, man.

Starting point is 01:14:25 Take care. Love you, bro. Thanks for coming on. Hey, love you guys, man. You guys are fucking killing it, man. Mama, look at me. I'm going really fast. I just got my license.

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Starting point is 01:15:52 talking Yankees Dodgers. And I can only imagine dude, what he's like on the sideline with his daughters. That's amazing stuff. All right, before we get into our throwback three, it is time to crown them, guys, brought to you by DraftKings. And this week, I am crowning Navy.

Starting point is 01:16:14 Okay, Navy is one of the great stories in college football this year. They're undefeated, Army as well is undefeated. They are playing Notre Dame. They're getting 13 points. I think this game is going to be low scoring. I'd even almost take the under in this game, but I imagine Navy is gonna keep this game

Starting point is 01:16:31 within 13 points. I'm not exactly sure they're going to win, but shout out to Navy. They're having a hell of a season. Navy plus 13 is the play this week. So all that being said, now this week instead of games, obviously jam packed. Remember guys to use the promo code throwbacks bet,

Starting point is 01:16:50 just $5 on any wager and get $200 in bonus bets right away. Only at DraftKings Sportsbook, all lines are subject to change. Navy plus 13, here we go. Jerry, it's time. It's time. Throwback three. Last week's throwback three, I think was my favorite and I think the audience let us know. I got a lot of responses on our social and on the throwback show social. A lot of people loved your NBA jam. Frankie finger, Z8 said no MVP baseball is insane.

Starting point is 01:17:25 Not wrong. We could only pick three though. There was a lot of Ken Griffey Jr. baseball. Jeff O'Neal pointed that out. And then we even had some love with NHL 94. There's like apparently people still play competitive NHL 94. I think we got invited to the playoff matchups for people playing NHL 94

Starting point is 01:17:45 on Sega Genesis. Sega Genesis. That was mine. It's your turn this week. Matt, what is your go back favorite this week? This is my favorite, because we can do 1,000 different things. But in the spirit of sport, and you

Starting point is 01:18:03 feel like a conspiracy theory guy to me. I totally am. You totally are. So I was looking back and I was trying to think of the top sports conspiracy theories out there. You can go all the way back to the 60s or you can go back to very recent. So I wanna do our top throwback

Starting point is 01:18:23 three conspiracy sports theories all time. Whatever you think. Whew. I know again, conspiracy, alleged, everything. Yeah. I mean, look, it may happen or we not even close. Neither confirm or deny. It may or may not have happened.

Starting point is 01:18:40 We don't know. We may know people that know we may not. I don't know. Okay. But why don't you start may know people that know we may not I don't know okay But why don't you start okay number three? So I'm starting with number three and you know, no one knows if this is true, but certainly we know the boxing world Has been a little Murky over the years. Yeah a lot of right sunny listing Rigged fight took a dive against Muhammad Ali

Starting point is 01:19:06 because there was mob debt or whatever. It's a very interesting theory because you certainly could believe it. There's been movies written about stuff like that. But the punch really go real. I mean, I know a lot of you probably looked at it. Yeah, he didn't even hit him. Really, really look at it.

Starting point is 01:19:22 He fell awkwardly. I don't know, man and Muhammad Ali would have probably beat him anyway but maybe he just didn't want to be in there for 10 rounds 12 rounds actually getting hit not saying is true but that is my number three son you know those guys that punch you know those guys back in the day we're up to some shenanigans outside the boxing match I'm just I don't know go watch raging bull. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:19:45 It's raging bull. All right. So this one was tough for me. Number three, you're going to hate me for this. I'm going the bloody sock. Kurt Schilling, 2004, game six. Okay. I have a little, I have a little quote here.

Starting point is 01:20:04 Baltimore Orioles play by play announcer, Gary Thorne suggests that the red material on Kurt Schilling soccer in game two of the 2004 world series was in fact paint, not blood. The media runs wild with the story and everybody thinks it's ketchup and all this stuff. But in fact, he was dealing with an ankle injury. Remember that back in the day? Do I remember it? I lived through that game. That game was brutal. I do enjoy this one because it brings on a lot of interesting debate. Number one, you have an ankle injury. Why the, why the fuck is your ankle bleeding? Did you cut your ankle? He had sutures in his ankle. That's so

Starting point is 01:20:41 like his, so they, they basically surgery or he needed stitches? Yeah, from something from, I think, whatever, from some tendon deal. I was trying to- Okay, but Matt, if you have sutures, great use of the word sutures, by the way. You could have just said stitches, but you went sutures, I fucking love it. That's good.

Starting point is 01:20:55 Wouldn't you also properly wrap the, you have professionals of every medical level. Wouldn't you wrap it properly so the blood doesn't soak through to your sock? Well, dude, this is the whole conspiracy. Maybe it wasn't blood. Maybe it was just a big theatrical moment. Okay, but if you're shilling, why?

Starting point is 01:21:15 Is it because it's a win-win? If you win the game, you're a hero, you pitched and won for the Red Sox through blood. By the way, he pitched his ass off that game. He won the game. Yeah, but if you lose, you could say, I don't wanna blame injuries. But if you lose, you could say, I don't want to blame injuries. But then basically the bloody sock is your...

Starting point is 01:21:29 Talk about eating on the... I mean, you have a hot dog with ketchup on the side line and spill on the sock. I don't know. That's a wonky one for me. I just remember that. I remember that story. Obviously the fabrication of what it was, but I remember the bloody sock. It was like a guy playing with like a broken arm

Starting point is 01:21:47 in football or something. It was like, oh my God, it's like, dude, it's a bloody sock, bro. I mean, you shoot that thing up and you go, all right. You ready for my number two? Yeah. I'm going with the Ravens Niners blackout. Now, I remember well where I was when that happened.

Starting point is 01:22:07 I remember who I was watching it with. I do remember the momentum of the game switching. I never fully bought into the conspiracy of it in the time until, just to make it more fun, several interviews with Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs after the game. Like Terrell Suggs said, game like Terrell Suggs said yeah Gidele's up to his shit again. How does a billion dollar stadium lose outage in a Super Bowl?

Starting point is 01:22:33 But that could be you know freak things could happen but I guess coming off the Beyonce concert but what and also how do you know pulling the power out though, was going to galvanize the 49ers to play better? Because the Ravens had the game, but either way, it led to a much more competitive game. I just think you have Beyonce in that, you have the app, the players actually commenting and anytime, you know, we got Gidele in there too. It's a great one. That's my number two. That's a really fun, almost modern one. Yeah. No, I remember that one. All right. Number two, I'm going back 2002 Western Conference

Starting point is 01:23:13 finals. Oh, I know where you Lakers Kings. By the way, real quick, that was like my childhood. So I was 19, like the Kobe shack era, the battles with the Kings, man. They were with Chris Weber and they had, who else had Doug Christie? They had. Doug Christie, Mike Bibby. Oh, they. Great team. Those were battles, spurs back in the day. Pesce, right? Was it Pesce?

Starting point is 01:23:35 Pesce Stojakovic. Lakers trailed the Kings 3-2 in the series, going into the fourth quarter of game six. The Lakers, guess how many free throws the Lakers shot? I don't have to guess. In the fourth quarter of game six, the Lakers, guess how many free throws the Lakers shot? I don't have to guess because I, I promise I didn't look this up. I remember I had to look this up. I remember because I from when it happened, it was 27 wasn't it? 27 free throws. I didn't even look that up. And the whole and the whole

Starting point is 01:24:00 conspiracy is that you want the Lakers in the finals and obviously that kind of stuff, right? Years later, then we talk about Tim Donahue, you know, who resigned and later admitted to gambling on NBA games and that whole thing, which is an incredible documentary too. He suggested that the conspiracy was real, noting that he heard a game had been fixed that matched the description of the playoff game. Just murky territory back then. And I hate saying that for my Lakers, but I mean, listen, it's happened.

Starting point is 01:24:33 I don't know. 27 free throws in the fourth quarter down three, two in the series against the, yeah, that's pretty crazy. One day I would love to, you know, you always get asked, and we even ask some people like, you know, who would you love to play golf with, or have a drink with? I would love to, well, or just get

Starting point is 01:24:52 one of these commissioners post-career where they're old enough, where they don't really care. But maybe they like to drink still, you have a couple of pops, and he's like, yeah, let me tell you about 2002. Let me tell you. Good doubt, let me tell you about 2002. Let me tell you about Spygate real quick. Yeah. You want to know what was on the tapes that I destroyed? Which is another great one. I didn't go with that one because we don't actually, no one ever had a concrete

Starting point is 01:25:16 theory as to what else was on those tapes that was so damning, but that would be an honorable mention for me. All right. I guess it's time for my number one. Now look, prefacing this to our audience, there's a universal number one. I'm gonna trust that you're gonna do it because you're my co-host and I feel, I'm gonna test our chemistry right now. I'm not gonna say the universal number one,

Starting point is 01:25:39 but I'm gonna go. For people listening, I don't know what you're, yeah, I don't know, we don't. I just have to believe you're gonna do this. I have to believe you. No, no, but we don't go over this before. I have no idea what you're gonna say. No, I'm winging it and I have to go for people listening. I don't know what you're. Yeah, I don't know. I just have to believe you're going to do this. No, no, but we don't. We don't go over this before. I have no idea.

Starting point is 01:25:47 I'm winging it. And I have to go with my next because this is a favorite one. And we're sticking with basketball. David Sturrd, that the frozen envelope. First of all, scientifically, can that happen? Can you make an envelope cold enough so someone puts their hand in and it's just to the touch like, oh, that's the one I've studied the tape. I don't really see any fishing around

Starting point is 01:26:09 I feel like there's easier ways to rig that if you want to But anyway, yeah, they basically rigged the lottery. So the nicks get the number one pick knowing they had patrick ewing waiting Uh, what a time because you would think they would have rigged the lottery I have no disrespect to our spurs, but there's other franchises that definitely have a bigger market that could have used Wemby. So I put that, I put that theory to the test. Why didn't they do it with Wemby? Maybe it's too hard now.

Starting point is 01:26:35 That's a favorite one. The NBA lottery to me still is weird. Like the balls and all that kind of stuff. Even, even, yeah, I don't even get it anymore. I don't follow it. Just show me who gets it. I'm going to trust that you did it. But something fun to explore one day is like, yeah, obviously they want ratings and big markets, but to rig a lottery for Patrick Ewing, I don't know. That's a rough one to believe, but it's a fun one. I love people who hang onto it. Now let's see if I know my boy. All right.

Starting point is 01:27:06 Allegedly. Allegedly. Let me start with that. I like where you're going. I'm trying to pull, okay. Cal Ripken Jr. The best one ever. 2,632 consecutive games over the span of 16 seasons, which will never be broken.

Starting point is 01:27:23 Okay, broke Lou Gehrig's record September 6th, 1995. There's some shenanigans that may or may not have happened prior to that. The conspiracy theory may or may not have happened on August 14th, 1997. Okay, remember his active streak was in jeopardy and there happened to be a power outage right at the home field. So he wasn't going to play the game. Right. He wasn't going to play the game. But why? Well, I mean, we can read into it, but you know, there let's say the rumor, Matt. I feel like the rumor is Kevin.

Starting point is 01:28:09 The rumor is Kevin Costner was shooting a movie, baseball, which he's he was a baseball player. He played in a lot of some most iconic baseball movies. He may or may not had relations with Cal Ripken's wife And Cal Ripken was pissed. He was heated. He wasn't going to show up for the game. I'm fucking over it. I'm not playing. I got other things on my mind. And all of a sudden, the lights go out. Power goes out. We can't let him play. Conveniently. Conveniently. I'm just saying that rumor has been around a long time. So yeah, I don't mean to be so hyper excited to talk about this,

Starting point is 01:28:48 because if it caused any pain to the Ripken family or the Costners, apologies. So we're not trying to laugh at your pain, because it's not funny. Just as a conspiracy theory, and by the way, they've both talked about it publicly and denied it. Kevin Costner called into a radio station I think in like 02 and was basically saying like why there's other ways to cancel a game it's bullshit blah blah blah I just the the holes I want to poke in it as a theory okay he catches his wife it's probably not true I'd say it's probably 88% not true although some have said otherwise but now the thing that I never fully understood

Starting point is 01:29:27 was are you not playing Mr. Ripken because you're emotionally distraught? Some have said it was a fight broke out and he hurt his hand. But if he hurt his hand, how do you know he's only out one game? So he hurt his hand. He knew, all right, we got to cancel this game, but I'll be back the next night when we play. So I don't know if it was that, but if you were emotionally distraught, listen, I get it. If it were me, Matt, and I came home,

Starting point is 01:29:54 and I found my lovely wife in that act while I have what will arguably be an unbreakable streak going, even though I'm emotionally distraught, I'm still playing in that. You're gonna be like, listen. You're not taking the marriage and the streak from me. I have to have one.

Starting point is 01:30:09 I'm going to deal with you later. I'm about to go break this record real quick. I have to have one of those. I have to leave the game in the third inning because I may have the stomach flu. There's a million other easier ways that it could have been done, but still there's a podcast called The Rumor. I'm not forgetting the host's name shout outs. Like there's like a six episode podcast that just breaks down this conspiracy

Starting point is 01:30:30 theory. So dude, I'm yeah, that's a, that's a wild one. It's a wild one. We'll never have the answer. I know some people have said, Oh yeah, it happened. I know other people are saying, uh, that's a ridiculous thing to think happen. That would be my number one too. Again, I'm just saying most of that most of these stadiums arenas I mean they do pay their electric bill. I don't know. So we have two conspiracy theories that involve the power going out. Those are good. Well, there's some other good ones. There's some other good ones. Yeah. Let us know what else we've lost over a few. Let us know yours at throwback show on social media

Starting point is 01:31:06 We're gonna wrap up now That's a good show cuz now I have to go stress out for 24 hours until the World Series starts. I'm still on a high from swish shout out to swish for joining us Yes. Yeah, dude. It's on Dodgers Yankees Should we make a bet? I mean, I got a lot of bets with you already. Yeah, dude. It's on Dodgers Yankees. Should we make a bet? I mean, I got a lot of bets with you already. Yeah. Too many. What do you want to do?

Starting point is 01:31:29 Let's you know, let's take that to social. We'll post it. Yeah. We'll take that to social. So look for us on social. We got to have a little bet going. And yeah, I just, I already have a few ideas. I don't, I don't want you embarrassing yourself. I want something out of this. Listen, I wore, I wore a juju, a juju signed jersey. Maybe you got USC connections. Jerry, I wore a leprechaun outfit on Big Noon kickoff last year because SC... For the whole...

Starting point is 01:31:54 That must have sucked. For the whole... Oh, it was... That must have sucked. For the whole A block for eight straight minutes, dude. Full character, full costume, because I lost a bet. I will do whatever. I have no shame.

Starting point is 01:32:04 Like, I don't care. Let's take it to social media. Good luck to your Dodgers, even though I don't really mean it. Thank you everybody for listening. Thank you to everyone behind the scenes. Show's growing. Shout outs again Swisher and we'll see you next week. Peace.

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