Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - The Godfather of LA Nightlife Joins! PLUS Matt’s USC Commitment & Great Sports Foursomes

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

One of the most fascinating figures in the history of Hollywood nightlife joins the show!  On the latest edition of Throwbacks, the man known as the Godfather of LA’s club scene, Josh Richman, sits down with the guys for an in-depth conversation on how he got into such a unique world, how he managed to become so successful doing it and how he sought to protect Matt and other celebrities who frequented his clubs.  Then, on the 25th anniversary of his commitment to USC, Matt looks back on how much the process has changed and how he may have never truly loved football in the way that he needed to.   And finally, the guys discuss some of the greatest sports foursomes of all time and give their top 3 movies to watch on a road trip.    New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/)      A big thank you to our sponsors:    Wendy’s    Find your new favorite Frosty Fusions™ flavor today with choices like OREO® Brownie, Caramel Crunch, and Pop-Tarts® Strawberry.  https://m-wendys.app.link/frostyswirl25  Nissan  The 2025 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek.  Adventure ready and free from new tariffs.  Learn more at https://www.nissanusa.com/     NHTSA  Speeding Catches Up With You.  Paid for by NHTSA https://www.nhtsa.gov/campaign/speeding-catches-up-with-you?utm_source=sinclair&utm_medium=read&utm_campaign=speed2025&utm_content=dogwalker    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I basically do Super Bowl every year at Bob Downey's house. Bob Downey don't really care about sports, but he loves a good function. He loves that like Super Bowl has become this thing. It's essentially my Super Bowl party at Bob's house. Bob don't care. I remember once we went to a Laker game. We're walking into warmups at the forum

and Downey looks at me and goes, what city are the Woolridges from? What city are the world's most wonderful? Yo, yo, got a good one today, Maddie Ice. How you feeling, buddy? What's up, baby? You just call me Maddie Woods. You can call me Maddie Woods. Well, first of all, I'm calling you Maddie Amazing Throwback Hoodie.

Or you can call me Maddie Scheffler. Yeah, dude, I got the threads on today. You know, I'm just I'm dabbling over here with some of the some of the future merch for throwbacks. Don't you don't you worry, buddy. That's pretty sweet. I got to say, I didn't know fashion design was part of your many, many abilities. Don't worry. Hey, listen, listen, if there's anything I'm gonna contribute to this show. It's gonna be merch. Okay, so We got a good one for you for you all today. It's it's so I'm curious to hear you're no

I'm curious to hear your setup because I think the person we have on today has meant a Bunch of different things to us over the years. You're a little bit tighter with him than I was but I certainly knew him from My 20 years in LA. We have on a guest, goes by the name Josh Richman. And how do you wanna tee him up for our listening audience? Cause this is sports related as well. This is not just outside of sports perma. Yeah, so there's a lot of,

I mean, people are gonna listen to the interview. It's fascinating. Josh, and you know this, Josh is one of the more fascinating, I think, human beings I've ever met because of his stories, because of his upbringing, because of the world he lived in and lives in and the people he knows and all of those things, which everyone's going to be like, I think people are going to really love this. For me personally, yeah, there's a lot of layers to it. I think that the long of the short is Josh really ran, continues to run, is the godfather of Hollywood nightlife.

And however you wanna define that, but he is the godfather. He was the man, I say was because obviously he's still in it, but like not in the heyday, right? In the eighties, nineties, two thousands. He ran it, you know, he was the guy. Everywhere you went to the best club in Hollywood, the who's who, the parties, this and that,

if you knew Josh, you were good, right? And you could get in, but if you like, he was the guy. So, and everybody who's gonna listen, who knows who follows us, knows what we're talking about. Like, yeah, man, like he was the guy so um and everybody who's gonna listen who knows who follows us knows what we're talking about like yeah man like josh is the dude so that being said i met josh um all that being said too he is a he's a usc trojan his dad who he'll talk about uh was the sid the sports information director for for usc i don't know the year sounds like a secret service job yeah it's like you know in charge of in charge of you know the year. Sounds like a secret service job. Yeah, it's like, you know, in charge of the media, sports,

me and all that kind of stuff. So Josh is like a Trojan through and through like he was, he's a diehard still to this day, probably more than me. And he, he'd tell you that. So when I was there, I met Josh kind of going out in the scene early on like, Hey, this is the guy you need to meet. But it wasn't one of those where like, I, like he got me in, but I had to do something for him. Like it became a real friendship. And I think that's what I value most.

And we talk about it. Uh, he, he was at my mom's funeral, man. He was at the service. Like he, he's been there for me. We've vacationed together. We've done all sorts of stuff together. Good times, bad times, a lot of deep conversations. He's gone through for me. We've vacationed together. We've done all sorts of stuff together. Good times, bad times, a lot of deep conversations. He's gone through a lot.

Yeah, you know, I got to know Josh, obviously once Entourage got started. We filmed a lot in clubs and stuff, all spread out through LA. The thing that always stuck out to me about Josh, first of all, like he did not play around, meaning like you could joke around with him, he's a fun guy, but like it wasn't all fun and games and he talks about it in the interview like that was work for him when he was out

there in the clubs at night, he was working and He was just a trustworthy dude like he did not Pray on people which a lot of times in that world you see like you said Oh, I'll show up here and then you're gonna do something for me It's like this barter. And I don't think Josh ever really rolled like that. I think he like not protected people. He looked out for you. Certainly when you were young and going out,

I would say this, like I was, you know, I was gosh, I mean, it was a fishbowl at USC. And in my peak, right, my junior year, my senior year, I had, oh my gosh, like, I mean, and you, you, I'm sure you had it too, to an extent with entourage, like anywhere, people wanted a piece of me everywhere I went. They wanted to take advantage. I mean, I had friends like that, you know, your circle becomes a lot smaller as you get older. And Josh, there was always a narrative around him because like, Hey, who's this club guy? You know, is he shady? Is he this? And I'll tell you this, and we talk about this,

and my mom was the biggest test for friends and people in my life. Like she could read you like a book, right? And if you cross my mom, it's probably similar to yours. If you cross my mom, she held a grudge. I mean, honestly, till the day she died, it just, who she was. It almost like I would tell her like I mean, honestly, till the day she died, it just who she was. It almost like

I would tell her like, No, mom, it's okay. You know, it was just like, you hurt my baby. F you, you know, it's over. And Josh, it one of the few people that my mom absolutely adored and loved through it all. And it was great. It was weird. It was not even about it. But it's just weird. Like she just saw. She saw what what I saw it on what a lot of his close friends have all. And it was great, it was weird. It wasn't even a bad one, but it's just weird. Like she just saw, she saw what I saw and what a lot of his close friends have seen. Like you said, the loyalty, the trust, the friend that took care of you, but the friend, he was, he had this,

I mean, he was incredible, you know, he was the guy, but it was like, it was just more than that, man. But again, it is those times going out the before social media, before the cameras. Yeah, it's kind of over now. It was like, dude, I mean, you lived it. The A-list of A-list, people went out and they partied

and they had fun and you never had to worry about what was happening inside those walls. Just a few names for you out there. Yeah, LaDue, Boyer, all places we filmed at. Hide. All the years went on trash, all places we filmed at all the years when Entrash, Hyde, was it Bootsy? Well, Teddys at the Roosevelt. Bootsy's wasn't Josh's, but Teddys.

Bootsy's wasn't Josh's, but Teddys was the iconic one. And last thing before, two last things before we get to Josh. One, I always look at things like this too, at like staying power. That is a world where a lot of guys and girls came in, had a run, and then just like, they just kinda never could do it again. You never heard from them again.

It was in and out, whatever their dealings were. Josh Richman has standed the test of time in that world. That's number one. And then number two, just wait. If you can, I know if this is audio, and if you could ever switch over to YouTube, at least to see the first two minutes of what Josh brings right off the bat in the interview.

It's two of the coolest pieces of memorabilia. I'm not gonna spoil it, I've ever seen. So if you could hop over to YouTube just to see what he has, or you could listen to him. But it was an amazing way to start an interview. Two things really quick. He is, like me. I collect cards. He is a card, but also a memorabilia collector.

Yes, he's got some dope stuff. It's a great TDA. He has got some of the sickest stuff, and I've seen it in his house, and he brings some of the stuff to the thing, which is freaking awesome. And then the second thing is, and he talks about this,

some of his best friends in the world since he was young are some of his best friends in the world since he was young are some of the biggest stars on the planet. And I think that's what's fascinating too because just where he grew up, he grew up with these guys. Like he grew up like- Like John Depp.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I mean just- There's more, there's more. Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. So everyone's in for a treat with this one, man. And I said, I posted on Instagram earlier this week, like if you know, you know, and you'll listen because you just know, you know who he is

and you know what he meant to LA. Well, I know you're putting out pictures too on your Instagram. I put two more out today. What's crazy too is that, you know, again, this is before cell phone cameras, right? And he was a very protective, but he has the best pictures. He could have sold his entire picture collection over his years and leaked photos and all that

stuff. He has amazing pictures of celebrities, athletes all throughout the years and never, no one's ever seen them, but like him and like his inner circle, like they're not out there in the world. You see them because you're part of the inner circle. So shout outs to Josh. We're going to get to that interview pretty much right now. Before shout outs to Josh. We're going to get to that interview pretty much right now. Before we do real quick, we're going to do all time adventures driven by Nissan, the 2025 Nissan Pathfinder rock freak adventure ready and free from new tariffs. So I think this is a perfect thing I wanted to ask you about for the adventure this week. I think, I don't know, I want want since we talk a lot about USC with Josh Richmond

Players are declaring and have declared college footballs upon us What when and what was it like when you officially declared for us gosh, it was dude. It was a lot different I think it's I think it's been almost 25 years to the day that I committed to USC and declared so to the day that I committed to USC and declared. So just the story is I committed to USC under Paul Hackett and Hugh Jackson. Hugh Jackson was the OC at the time. Kennedy Pola, who I love, recruited me from modern day. So I committed my junior year, like right around, right around this time. They got fired, that whole staff got fired. So I, you know, decommitted and kind of opened up my recruitment. That's when Bob Stoops in Oklahoma came in hard and they were they won a national championship that year. So

when I went on my recruiting trip, I got to see bowl practice them competing for a national title was Josh Hyple and those teams and they ended up they ended up winning and beating Florida State. So that was really cool to experience like a national championship practice, being in Oklahoma, all those things. The following and then that off season, Pete Carroll gets hired and he and he hires Norm Chow, all this, this all American elite staff. I keep my recruitment open until around this time, you know, in gosh, 2001. And you're a junior, which is crazy. You know, you're now at that going into now. I'm going into my senior year. I think it's like, you know, it's like this time,

it's like summer going into senior year. I commit to them and I'll never forget. I think I committed. I think I committed in the fall because I remember I was going to school all now you get these press conferences and you have these high school All-Star games and these hats and all of this. And I was like, I was a four-star recruit. So I was like top, I think I was top 10 quarterback in the country or top like 12, somewhere around there. So like, you know, I was pretty high recruit. I'll never forget.

I have my letter of intent of like a piece of paper. I'm sitting and I grew up, you know, in a small house in Santa Ana and I'm sitting there and I'm reading the newspaper because I read the newspaper every morning the sports section and my dad comes in and he has a disposable camera and my letter intent and I'm eating my lucky charms dude. I'll never forget this. I can't even make this up. I have a bowl of cereal. I'm all grouchy at seven. I don't want to do this right now. He's like do it take a picture He's standing over there. I'm at my little kitchen table. I sign my letter of intent. I have a picture of this somewhere I gotta find this picture. I had it's a it exists. Yeah, it exists It's in a box somewhere. But yeah, I I'm signing my letter of intent smiling wearing my modern-day uniform eating I'm pretty sure his lucky charms or Froot Loops, but I think it was Lucky Charms, signing my letter of intent to go to USC.

That's how I committed to USC and I probably called them. I mean, I barely even had a cell phone at that time. So times have changed, Jerry. That feels like a hundred years ago. Well, also too, last week's episode, I mean, you've talked about this to me before. I guess I didn't realize it, but you didn't even start playing when we did our whole tackle football thing with kids. Also too, last week's episode, you, I mean, you've talked about this to me before.

I guess I didn't realize it, but you didn't start playing when we did our whole tackle football thing with kids. You didn't start. So you started freshman year of high school and in two and a half seasons, essential, or three years, you were a four star recruiter. I always say this. That's crazy.

I always say this, and this is true. A big reason why personally I don't think I quote unquote made it as far as I wanted to. I mean, obviously I played at the highest level, I played for seven years, but like really, like, you know, played for 10 years and really, I don't think I ever really loved it the way that all of these, because I,

because at that point I didn't play it growing up. So like I grew to love it because I'm a competitor and I'm an athlete and it was my path. But like I didn't play in fourth grade, third grade tackle. I was baseball, I wanted to be a pitcher in the major leagues, that was my dream. Like that got shattered, so I just fell into football. So I always look back. I'm like,

I just don't think I loved it the way I needed to in order to, I mean, injuries happen, all these things, but like in order to really like have this success that I thought I could have, you know what I mean? Like it just, it just was one of those things. And like, I look back and it's like, yeah, I just like, man, I didn't eat, sleep, breathe football. I was just really good at it.

I had great teams around me and I made it, you know, like I, I, and I was talented, but like, that just like, man, I didn't eat, sleep, breathe football. I was just really good at it. I had great teams around me and I made it. Like I, and I was talented, but like that was it. So I look at all these guys, like, man, that's all they knew growing up. That's all they did. They played other sports. From like second grade though, they were getting hit and tackling people.

Most like quarterbacks, most of them are great athletes. Most of them played multiple sports, all that. And then you choose one, but like, you know, I, it just, it just was opposite for me. And I always think about that. I'm like, man, like, you know, I just, uh, that was probably a big part of it. But again, I love the sport, man. I love the sport. I love playing it. I just don't think I was in love with it when I was playing. You know what I mean? That makes sense. Well, shout out to Nissan. And if you ever can, find that photo, man. Maybe you should

ask Josh, because Josh has every photo. That's a great, I would love to see that. I have it. I can literally visualize that. It's just like a, it's like from like Kodak, dude. It's like one of those, you know, the disposable. Yeah, disposable snap maybe. Yeah, I have a bunch of those too. All right, we're going to get to it because it's a really, really fun interview. Here is the one and only Josh Richman. Lot of games. Well, you came in hot today. You came in with some memorabilia of Mr. Liner.

And at first, I wasn't quite sure what you had there. Do you want to pick those up and take us through what we got? Well, these size 95s are Matt Linert's Game-Worn. Wow. Wow, number 11. National championship winning cleats. Oh my god. Oklahoma 11.

OK, my ticket. Actually, next to your dad, your dad who snuck in. Jack? Yeah, I think a Jack in his leg. And I'm not really a drinker. We're pounding. We were so hyped. And then that looks, yeah, that's it.

Oh my God, that's nuts. I wanna see that though. No. That's mine. Let me see that. This is the Play wristband. Wow. And the mouthpiece.

Back in 04, this could have fetched a lot. Wait, I wanna see the, I wanna see the wristband. Oh, here, give me this goop. I don't need the mouthpiece. He doesn't want the mouthpiece. That thing hasn't been washed in 21 years. Let me just see, because I remember, I remember Clear's Day, some of the plays

we scored in that game on, for sure. Scored a lot that game, so it might be hard to remember. We've just lost Matt to the K-hole. I loved, I remember because it's color coded. So. It was sluggo, everything was sluggo, sluggo, sluggo. Sluggo win Notre Dame. Sluggo, so the bet, so yellow,

I hated because it was always a run. Cause so like yellow. No, cause start. Hated the run play. God forbid you're hair in the bottle. You had a good running bag. No, but I was like, I want, red was red zone. So I knew that was a pass,

because sometimes calls got too long. Green was a pass too, but then the shots, blue were like the shots, like, hey, let's go take a shot downfield. But yellow was like teeth, like yellow teeth, green, so stark, anytime you go green, I'm like, yes, let's go, we're passing. How do you end up with these possessions, Josh?

Well, we had spent, prior to that, we had spent a good solid year, a couple of years. Right, we'll get into like your how you got to me, but how do you end up with that stuff? At the time, you have to understand, especially after that, this is after, they'd already won a title. This was the year where we were like,

considered maybe the greatest ever. Right. I say we, and everyone's like, you didn't go there, I'm like, woo-roo-mah. But I will say my father was the SID there in the late fifties with that, it came up with Al Davis.

Like it's been in my blood forever. And this, that team was my kind of inroad to being behind the Cardinal curtain, so to speak. One day I'm just with him, it was not long after the game and I see them, they're just sitting there like in the bed of the truck. Like some bum by SC could have easily just, they were just sitting, they were,

anybody could have had at them. I'm like, he's like, fine, I don't care. So I took them and I'm just like, what? It's a five figure item. Well, but just also it's like that. I would never sell it, but I'm just saying. I just can't believe the dirt is still on the bottom. You have the original dirt.

Dude, I keep shit. I know you do. Hold on. Let's not get it twisted. Let everybody see. Wow. That is natty dirt, y'all. That's pretty crazy, dude.

Yeah, I like how you laid out, like you're saying, like, Kobe Shack. Like, we obviously talk a lot of USC on that show. But I really hope people do realize. Because I was here. I got here in 2000. So I was like fresh off the boat here. And I don't know what the proper comparison is. We all have to like joke around like Beatles kind of, but the USC effect in that time period. And you've seen a lot of different, and we're going to get into your

history with LA and- You were still a moderate at 2000. Yeah, my- Were you Gatorade player of the year in 2000 or 2001? 2000. So right when you got here, he was the number one player in the country at modern day, which is the factory.

Bosco a little bit. Not then though. Not then. I always say, I always get asked. It was Pauly then. Pauly yeah, Pauly and modern day. I get asked still to this day, you know, like that era in Hollywood, USC,

what was it like this and that, right? And I've told you, you know this, but like Josh was like the bridge, but like the epicenter to my world in everything in a positive way. It was like when I got introduced to USC, Alex Holmes, who we're gonna talk about, cause he's really the guy that- Hey ho, we love you.

He really connected a lot of us to Josh's world and to LA and just to the culture and the life. He was the Malcolm Gladwell connector. So it's like, I always say like, it was like Josh's, especially looking back, as you can always just, you'd go look back to the era, which is crazy. Like the, it was just, it was awesome. Like what a time to be around.

Josh was truly like the, well, call him the godfather, but like honestly, like he was a friend, a father figure. He was a guy that took care of us. He was a guy that protected us. And we were fucking stupid kids at the time. Just, we were dumb as shit. They were stupid. We were stupid, but like, we didn't know any better.

And by the way, I say this all the time. I go, we played hard, but we won. Like it never got in the way of us. We were dominant every single way. And that was the thing that also bothered me when you went to the NFL and people were like, you know, this stuff's important to him. I'm like, find me a top like kid that isn't doing this.

He just happens to be in Los Angeles. That was the problem, man. It was just, yeah. And again, I- Every kid everywhere did it. We just, yeah, it was just LA. And it was the- And this is pre-NIL, everyone,

to understand it like anything they took back then, they were not allowed to take. And Matt could have taken a lot and didn't. Like you were in a way almost NIL before real NIL and not because you gave us stuff, but it was like, but our- It was the thing you could do that was in the gray area. Recruiting pitch to USC is like,

you know, you're gonna go to USC and win, but you're also gonna have this part of the world. I was like, and I was thinking, I'm like, Josh was, and you took a lot of shit from USC over the years because all the stuff that went down, like there's all sorts of stuff. Nobody got in trouble, nothing went down. I know.

They want it when they want it, then when they don't want it, they want to act like they're the plague. But you were like, you were the, yeah, I don't want to phrase it the wrong way, because I mean in a positive way, but you were like, that was like the connector to everybody. It was part of the draw.

It was back then when everything was, there was an amorphous gray area of like what was unspoken. They used to call them hundred dollar handshakes. But like, you know, kids were probably doing it. And of course they were doing it. And of course, whatever the underhanded stuff that got done, but the point is everybody did it. I didn't make it right,

but everyone did it to the level they could get away with it. So I'm like, you see, does it? No, they all do it. You couldn't point a finger at anybody. You know, Rice does it. Colorado State does it. I mean, everybody does it. So the fact that we were so great and I even think that when we got put on damn near death penalty,

Mike Garrett was a G and Mike Garrett thumbed his nose at all of it and they wanted to punish Mike Garrett and then Pete had to skedaddle out of town. He didn't want to stay there for the aftermath. Fine. But I was in the epicenter of it. I saw it. They were, every kid in a college goes to nightclubs. It's not a news, they just aren't going to the most famous ones in the world with all the famous people. Because they're in Tallahassee and nobody cares. The ones that are covered almost 24 seven

in a pre social media era covered 24 seven. And which gets back to what we call like the Lindsay Paris area. That was Matt's exact time was with the LA like Lindsay Paris. Like it was just. It was kind of like the TMZ generation, right? It evolved from this old guy who's dead now called Woody, who was the first. You remember E.L. Woody.

Yeah, of course. We had Woody on Entourage. He started it in the 90s when I had Granville, which is, yeah. He started then, and then it became the TMZ culture. And stuff was all, you know, the other thing is like, I'm the bad guy because I'm the conduit to the thing they'd be doing anyway with nobody protecting them.

But also I protected them from those people. And let me tell you something, I have pictures of Matt Leonard, okay, and others that were really valuable. Like I'm talking half a million dollars valuable. I was told by some of the biggest guys at the time when it was the episode- Get me a picture of this one or that one.

The heyday of that. No, not get me, I was like, I have this, what's it worth? Not because I was ever gonna sell it, but I wanted to know. He goes all day 250, anywhere upwards of 500 if there's a bidding war. We won't say what they were. And they were they weren't lewd or anything.

It was just like a Jason. So like famous people just sold that. Yeah, that would have gone over great with Linda. That would have gone over great with Steve and Bob and Linda and rhinoceros. That would be awesome. I think that is like a testament to you. Now he's looked back like, shit, we should have sold that. No, but together, yes, it would have been great.

But you know, you put it in an escrow account. Everybody was always looking at everyone. Even when I was working with Guns N' Roses, I was so close to them. And it was just like a football team. It's just drama, drama, drama. Everybody mad at who's close to the guy. And they would just, the same things

that people would make up about people, they would make it up. And that's not true, but they make it up, they can just put it on you because how do you defend yourself? I was always, I always felt like, again, I probably made some bonehead mistakes, like we all do. But you're a kid.

No, no, no, probably. But who doesn't? I did, but like, I don't care, like who cares? But like, I always felt, I did always feel protected by him because I mean, shit, we were like, like everybody could see anybody. Like we walk out, like it was just like, it wasn't, I was probably not the smartest at times,

but I always felt protected by Josh. We also built a great relationship. Like we were friends. You guys were real friends. Like he said, he came to my house in San Diego. He knew my mom, my mom passed away. My mom was real tough with my group. Even like- Even his really old friends. Even my real real tough with my group. Even like-

Even his really old friends, she was mad at him. Even my real old friends, like she was one, she was- My dad was- The moms always know. My dad was easy. My dad was cool. Kind of just like, he stayed out. Like he just was proud of his son.

He loved, like he was, and he's still the same way. My mom was like, once you crossed her, it was just one of those. No coming back. Yeah, you're just like, he's dead to me. Even if he's still around, I'll say hi, I'll be nice. Josh always had, like, I don't know, like always had a special place.

Like, he came to mom's funeral. Like, you know, like it was just like, she always was like, I trust Josh. And I don't even, maybe, I don't know why, but like, she's like, I trust Josh that has your best interest. It's an intuition. It's just, yeah, it's, and I'll say this.

That's beautiful, honestly. But, you know, especially because things got a little he intuition. It's just, yeah, it's, and I'll say this. That's beautiful, honestly. But. You know, especially because things got a little hectic. There was some recruiting trips, because a lot of times those recruits got brought to me. And Matt steered clear of all that, by the way. Which is true. But you know, there was trips,

and these kids were coming in, like the number one corner in the country, the kids actually still in the NFL, number one corner in the country. It was known he was already committed somewhere, but like he was taking his visit to LA. This school came in the club and was partying like he was fricking-

Like he was coming, like he was coming. No, he was more like he was partying like he was, you know, Derek Jeter. Right. I guess Derek Jeter didn't really party, but I guess I'm just saying like this kid, I'm like, dang, this kid like balls out like a club person.

Yeah. Underage, you know, just like two shots, stogie, like I don't know. And wasn't afraid, but he was here, right? You're saying this happened in LA, like in a place where it would be easily leaked, photographed, whatever. Oh yeah, yeah.

I mean, it was, you could protect them, the younger kids you could protect because these dum-dums don't know who they are. But Matt and Reggie and these type of guys were not protectable. You know, so Matt was like, it was hard work to protect him, These dumb-dumbs don't know who they are. But Matt and Reggie and these types of guys were not protectable. So Matt was like, it was hard work to protect him. But it's not like he was doing anything wrong.

It was just a matter of they would take it and make something out of it. It would be bad for him. And that never happened, by the way. It never happened. I always feel like, I don't know, maybe you could correct me, but I always feel like, like we didn't, I don't know, like, I don't know.

We didn't, like we went out normal. We didn't go out all the time. Like, I don't know, like we, it like we went out normal, we didn't go out all the time. Like, I don't know, like we, it wasn't like we were raging every night. Like dude, I still went to school, I still had to play a sport, I still was like striving to be something. It just, it just was like we were-

You did what kids do. We did what kids do, but we were- It was the fact that it's in LA, you're right, you said, it was the fact that it was here. And we, and in that time- In that time period. We were living like kings. Yeah.

I was part of the ride as well. This was also my business and business was flourishing. You know what I mean? So, and these guys were part of it, sure. But also it was my love of football and sports and SC football. It was highly competitive and these guys were the best and the teams were the best.

And you didn't want, I didn't want anything to happen. The fuck with that. It would have been pretty bad to go, there's that guy down in Florida that got them and everybody and all that. There's always a guy that gets everyone and all that trouble. I was gonna make sure that was not gonna be me. Well, by the same token,

we all still had an incredible time. So do we get lucky? Maybe, was it my acumen being a little older? Yeah, I kinda, and plus I had relationships with the people that could have fucked us all. And instead, it's almost like we grew there. When you think about it, you're like my social media person. We grew these personas and put these guys in places

that helped them start to get all that stuff. Their status as football players would have done it anyway, but I felt like that come up here was healthier for them as then when they got there. Still didn't help them make the best decisions in the world. I'm gonna say this for the first time. First time? Talk about protecting, no protecting,

who I took on a date and I think it was Teddys. It was Teddys. First of all, for one second I'm gonna say Teddys, some of the most fun I ever had in my life. I didn't go out tons, but when I did Teddys was like one of my favorite spots. Out of this, I wanna. But set, guys, set the table.

Can't believe you're doing this right now. Let's go. Let's go. I already got clearance, I'm good. You got clearance, okay. You got clearance, clearance. We've been through, clearance, clearance. We've been through a lot. Right.

Seen a lot, a lot of like good, bad, crying. Hard. Happy, hard. Just life is beautiful in a lot of different ways. And here we are like, hey, you wanna come on my podcast Josh? Six worst words in LA, you wanna be on my podcast? I was like, yes. I say no to this shit all the time.

Let me tell you, I was so excited when you guys asked. I know, I was like, we've been thinking of you. We're just, you know, we're trying to- So what are you about to tell me here, Matty? So I'm about to tell you that I took this girl on a date to Josh's club and no one knows this. Okay. And talk about protection. I I took this girl on a date to Josh's club and no one knows this. Okay. And talk about protection.

I took Rihanna on a date. I didn't know you were gonna say, okay. To Teddy's. Whoa. Was it Teddy's, right? It was. And do you wanna hear the lead up to this date? Please.

So there's some more context to the story, but I'm just gonna leave it at that. I think it's like the third time. And this is like, it's either like all or nothing. Like I already fumbled it away. Like it was just whatever. And I'm like, call Josh. I'm like, hey, this is what I'm doing.

Like, can you help me get like sneak, like whatever. Like whatever the words were about. You need some back, you need your boy to help you out. Hey, come in the back door. Let me know when you're here. We'll come get you, whatever. I don't even know if we showed up together, but it's one of those things, right?

And I think Akuna was there. I think it was like her and I, you were in and out, kind of like leading it, and then our buddy Daniel, who was the one that was kind of the middle ball. But the problem was, is I had this fucking ginormous blister on my lip. I had... On your date while you were mad.

Marcia Brady. Dude, I can't even, I tell you what, dude, it's like... Were you nervous about the blister? Are you kidding me? It was like... Did you get the blister because you were nervous? I got the blister because I was in the sun. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm literally. I'm there today. That day, I will never forget it was there. And then I don't know who in my world was like, dude, they're like, you're okay, bro.

You're gonna be fucking fine. You're gonna be fine. I'm like, no, I'm fucking not. You had a hype match. You're gonna be on the date. So the whole time, and Teddy's was dark. So the whole time we're at a little table, dude. And I'm sitting across from her, Josh is her.

And I'm just like, I couldn't make eye contact, dude. I'm like, I'm like this, I'm like, yeah, what's up, what's up? Like I couldn't talk. It was the- But you're playing, she probably thinks you're being aloof. This is great. No, no, no, this was already like the ship at sail. But like she came in-

I'm dying. She was like, get me out of here. Yeah, she was like, oh, this poor kid. And I remember, I think Daniel after one of our buddies was like, you fucking are an idiot. You blew it. To my face, he's like, you just blew it. Billy Madison, you blew it. Oh, to my face, he's like, you just blew it.

But yeah, that was a... I can't believe you got the clearance, clearance good. Well, my wife's the best. And plus she's like, you're an idiot. Like, what are you thinking? And so for you though, it's like getting a text like that from Matt, like, hey, me and Rihanna are coming through. Like that's normal course of business at that time for you.

Stuff like that, right? But in his case, because we're close and because there's all this other, normally it's like the greatest text ever. And the irony is like, it would happen with Matt or say like, I'll give an example like Johnny Depp. Right. You know, everyone's in Stoke, Johnny's coming to the club.

I'm not, it's not fun for me. Like I love him, I want him to have a great time, but I'm like in a panic. I'm just like, ah, ah, me. Like I love him, I want him to have a great time, but I'm like in a panic. I'm just like, ah, ah, ah. So that's more like that. It's much, and plus like get him in there, get him stashed, stash the security guard there and then just leave it.

I don't wanna, I just don't wanna hear about it. I just pray that they get out of there quick and everyone, there's no trouble. And also all these things, sometimes the best stuff is not stuff that can be known about. Right. You know, whereas how great would it be for your thing if it was.

Of course. But like you said, it was all so fertile back then that it would always be another, there would always be something great coming up. Right, but that is an interesting spot for you where it's like, I feel like a lot of people in your position either have or would have. They all did. Oh, Matt and Rihanna are here.

They all did. Don't get it twisted that they didn't. Right. And sometimes I would hear that something was coming and I would call. It's almost like short money versus long money, right? You played like a long game. Or it's like it's part of the game, so it's fine. We never did. It was kind of like, you know, people would always say to me and my old partner, Hartwell's one of my best friends, he's gotten himself out of nightlife, lucky guy. He, they would say, oh, they get all these people because of drugs.

It's like, we don't do drugs. You ever done a drug with me? No. I'm just saying like, like if you did drugs with me, we were children. That sounds like someone who is seeing success and can't figure it out. And it must be doing this.

Like, no, there's a million other ways to do it. Because as you know, and what your whole show is about and what we've talked about, everything is about relationships. Yes, true. Real relationships, not just transactional ones, which obviously have value, but like real relationships. You know the person, if you screw them over,

or you fuck up, you feel really bad about it. So all the things that didn't happen on my watch is how bad I would have felt. And then it also would have given all the haters, oh, see, see, see. I was like- They were waiting for that. Yeah, oh my God.

They were waiting for that to happen. Of course. I never, I could probably count on one hand the times we've drank together. Maybe more, but that's like vacation and just like, cause you're not a- Heisman. Yeah, Heisman.

Hawaii. Well, that's a celebration. Matt won the Heisman. This is what, I always joke with people when they try to come to a nightclub and it's like a dude with like three dudes. I'm like, my man, I have more juice than you'll ever have. I've never brought three dudes anywhere in my life.

What makes you think you can do it? Bring more dudes. Hold on. The sausage fest, like get text from John. You're bringing all the sausage fest in tonight? Like, yeah, dude, sorry. The night of the Heisman, we're in New York and it's Noah Tepperberg's got marquee.

And that's my boy. They weren't really athlete-centric. But I just said, listen, trust me, this is a good thing for you. You want this. It wasn't just Matt and his buddies. It turned into like 30 people. Party of 30.

You've got Herb Strait falling over here. You got Urban Meyer over here. You got every player. You got Herb Street falling over here, you got Urban Meyer over here, you got every player, you got the whole families. I mean, it was crazy. I literally walked into a club with 30 people. Well, right, and right next to us was Sandler, Chris Rock. They were shooting the longest yard, the remake. And it was that whole crew.

It was literally right next to us. What a night, my God. And don't think it wasn't fun for people, by the way, also. To like see him or Reggie or these people in their hay day, people were stoked. What do you, I was genuinely curious of what you think of NIL, just in general. Cause you, we talked about, you saw a whole different world.

We lived a whole different world before, maybe they're a hundred dollar handshakes, but now it's like, I mean, I've, you've probably seen, I've seen some of these deals. I literally, this is, this'll make us feel old. I sat in a marketing meeting with Athletes First and Cole the other day. Wow.

Pitching him to be there, like, there. Wow. And yeah, it's crazy. And it's like, you start to see some of these numbers and it's seven figure numbers. Like it's like real money. And just, I mean, you're a sports lover. Just what are your thoughts in general?

I saw a kid the other day from Tennessee getting a huge NIL deal and they equated it over three years and it's more than a kid who starts in the NBA. So I don't know what that means. There's always an overcorrection, but back then the Clarkson and I used to talk about it, like something had to change. The NCAA is the most corrupt,

most full of shit organization ever. By the way, no one really realizes the NCAA is a non-for-profit organization. Tell them that at March Madness. Anyway, they're over here talking about what a kid can't do. So it was long overdue. There was the O'Bannon suit. And other ones, big Charles.

So ultimately it was something that's deserved, but now it's the Wild West and there's no way to put the genie back in the bottle and I don't know what they're gonna do. I mean, it's not about saying, hey, what do we think about NIL right now? It's about where's this headed? I love USC football,

but USC football is a different thing now. Even a kid like Miller Moss, who was a diehard diehard, was never gonna leave. And I don't blame him for leaving. Zachariah Branch, lovely kid. He and his brother come here from Vegas. This kid is an incredible kid, not just a great player. Great family, great kid.

Gone. Like it is now something where they gotta figure out what college football is. It's gonna become paid minor league football, whether it's a big super conference or two super conferences. I have this crazy thing and people think I'm nuts, whether it's a big super conference or two super conferences. I have this crazy thing and people think I'm nuts, whether it's Amazon broadcast game now, right? Bezos has the money

to say, well, let's take six programs, the biggest ones that have that fill their stadiums. Let's buy up the license. Let's just turn those into the six greatest young people's football teams. And it'll and they'll play each other in their stadiums and it'll all be paid for and we'll broadcast it all. It's all in house and he's got the money to do it. I know it's crazy to talk about, but it has to head somewhere because whatever this is, it's just insane.

I wanna ask you a question because I've made fun of you for years for this. How you grew up in LA, showtime Lakers. I know what's coming. You know, cause I've been giving you shit for how, and I respect the loyalty out of you, but how on God's earth can you be a Clippers fan? A real life Clippers fan in front of us.

No, I'm saying a real life loyal, always, which I respect that, but I'm like. Laker fan too. Right. Long time season ticket holder, whatever. But you're. Yes, okay. There's a real easy answer. When I was a kid, I loved Bob Mc Laker fan too. Right. Longtime season ticket holder. Yeah. But, but you're. Yes. Okay. There's a real easy answer. When I was a kid, I loved Bob McAdoo.

Yeah. And that was the Braves. Yep. And the Braves moved and they became the San Diego Clippers. And I was a little boy and I went to one of their very first exhibition games in that old awful arena down in San Diego, Swenn Nader, you know, some dude called Witherspoon. Was it worse than the sports arena, the LA sports arena?

Remember how bad that was? It was worse than the sports arena, for real. Anyway, went there, you know, and liked them. I mean, I'm like the guy that likes uniforms and I love trades and see a guy that knew uniforms. I was just, they were a team I liked. It was the Braves, they became the Clippers. And then when they moved here,

a guy knew like some girl that worked for them, gave them these incredible season tickets. And we would go all the time because we would just go for like the Jordan game or the best games. And then the sports arena was a miserifying, it's a miserable experience. And then there's a chronology. And then my dear friend, Ron Burkle had these floor seats forever and Ron was so generous with them. So, and then the capper of it was, you know, my brother, Frankie Delgado, Frankie from Tijuana via San Diego. Frankie is a legitimate Clippers fan. He takes more shit for it than anybody, but he's a legitimate Clipper fan and flip-flop Frank never flip-flops off the Clippers. Like he is the most diehard Clipper fan.

And so I started getting all these courtsides. He said, Frankie and I were going to, like we went to a lot of games and you know, you just, you keep feeding the kiddies so to speak. Plus they got pretty good for a minute. Like I remember going to the sports arena when it was Poo Richardson and Danny Manning. And then all of a sudden-

The knucklehead era was awesome. Who was the lake who I met at Teddy's? Who was the white guy on that team with Poo Richardson and Danny Manning. And then all of a sudden- The knucklehead era was awesome. You know who I met at Teddy's? Who's the white guy on that team with Poo? He was good. Poo Richardson. That's about Brett Perry. Danny Manning, no, the other guy. Piatowski? Eric Piatowski.

That's later. That's later. That's Staples. 90, oh, that's Staples. And so, you know, the team got, you know, Blake. Yeah, no, they were good. And CP like- Bob City, yeah. CP hitting like game winning, you know, the team got, you know, Blake and CP, like CP hitting like game winning, you know,

like it got to a thing and then Laker fans are now like talking shit to me. Like my friends that I go to Laker games with, they're like talking shit to me. And I'm like, guys, like I'm a bandwagoner. I'm like, bandwagon's this, so where's bandwagon in history? And then they get this guy, Balmer, who's, you know,

God love him. He wants to do it so bad. But you know, ultimately I will always have a soft spot. I hope that answers your question. But Frankie and I, like, we still talk about it, you know, cause I mean, we're also basketball fans and, basketball is by the way, my least favorite sport, but it's, it's, it's fucking hard to win, man.

They were so close, but they just, DeAndre and Blake and Chris, they just all, I think everyone was mad at Chris. I think it's like, we're in the same boat. I mean, Cole's older, but like with your boys, I think it's great, like the story, like you're a kid and you just like, that's how, like we always talk about like,

his kids are now Knicks fans because of him. My ones are like, I'm Dodgers, you know me, Dodgers, Lakers. Sometimes they go against the dad. But sometimes they do, but it's cool that like you had, that's why, I mean, and you stuck with them. Like that, if my, when Cole was a Clippers fan, which we all know, I was like, dude, it broke my heart. I love that, Cole.

I love that. Hey, listen, True loves his Raiders suffering, loves his Trojan footballs, been a little bit of suffering. But let me tell you, he sees someone in a UCLA shirt, he calls him the poops. Look dad, I'm just wearing a poops jersey. Taught him well.

I love it. Sorry Casey. I wanna go back, cause I don't know if I know this story of just how it all started for you getting into the whole club world. And you know, it's not a- You were an actor, voice artist, music, like-

21 Jump Street, which is awesome. Is that how you met Depp? No, we were acquainted prior, but we became like Jerry's ass friends. But you were on 21 Jump Street? Cause he, what? You did 21 Jump Street. I did a double episode and then came back two seasons later

for like an episode that was all me, which by the way is incredible, if I may say so myself. We're gonna roll that in this one. Oh, please. How was such a good show? It was interesting. I had done hundreds and hundreds of voiceovers when I was a kid, which I kind of alluded to earlier.

I had won a million Clio and IBA awards. You know, my father's company were like the boutique, the best, the gold standard in creative advertising. And then life took over, you know, girls and weed and whatever, and I didn't care. My dad passed, my mom passed away when I was 14, and my dad passed away six years later, and I was kind of adrift.

And in that adriftness, prior to my dad passing, I had started going on auditions, which I still said I was just a professional auditioner. You know that grind, it's a brutal grind. Danny would be like, yeah, I love auditions. I'm like, easy for you to say. You know, so, and plus I had like long hair down to here. I only wore socks.

Like I didn't make it easy on myself. I mean, you can look at me. I did a couple of movies where they liked it so much. My character only wears socks. So, so ultimately I, my friend Rick, God love him, he's passed away now, Rick had been doing some nightlife stuff

and he was a kid from where I'm from. He grew up up on the hill with me. Prior to that, he had lived in the Playboy Mansion, long story, won't go into it. But Rick was working, did a thing at On the Rocks, which was a private club that Lou Adler, and if you don't know who Lou Adler is, he's the guy in the beard next to Jack Nicholson

on the floor of the Lakers for the last 50 years. Lou is an icon in music business and Lou is just a G of Gs. He kind of opened up what was a private bar that only like his friends had keys to, Magic, Jack Nicholson, whoever. And it was Rick got a night there and Lou's daughter, Victoria Sellers, did the other night with her friend, Heidi Fleiss. Ah ha, yeah, okay. She became a very famous madam to those of you that don't know.

Anyway, so Rick got his little head start and then our friends did this, owned this place that we had all gone to as kids, a club called Lingo. Then in the rock and roll days, there was a club called Bordello there from the guys that did Cat House, sort of Bordello. And then I did a club,

Rick and I basically started a club there called Granville that was 93 to 99 at a time when there was only one good club a night. A lot of people don't know that. Back then, you had your club, that night no one else had a club. Right, it wasn't where we going after this. Was it the Roxy round?

What was the place we used to do like metal school? That started at the Viper, then the Roxy, then the Key Club. So Rick was like, I wanna do this thing, I wanna do this thing. And it was gonna be like, you play all the music of the day, it was like no diggity.

Like way work it. And then it was strippers. And you know, there had been a huge couple of big movies. Demi Moore had done a movie. The Waszawski brothers had made this movie with a girl called Mia Kershner right before they made Matrix. And it was like trendy.

And so it was no diggity. And then at midnight, we would stop the music, DJ Ben Baller, Ben Yang at the time. He was your DJ. He was our DJ. That's the one. And he worked at Priority Records for Brian Turner with Andrew Shack, our boys.

And we would stop the music. I would play my music. I'd play like Dead Kennedys. I played bands that no one had heard of. I played Deftones before anyone heard it. Kyle Sirie signed them. I played Alanis Morissette before anyone heard it. I played Limp Bizkit on the way up.

I played System of a Down before anyone. I played all these bands because I was also in the music business. My friends were in the bands, managed the bands, and I would play their music first. So I would play this crazy music that the strippers liked, and then the crowd would throw all this money, and it was the craziest thing ever.

But the point is, how'd I do it? Rick was like, I wanna do this with you. And that's the space now that later was Voyeur, and is now Delilah. And that space was owned by friends of ours. And so like we made a sweetheart deal with our friend, we put this, and quickly it was hot. I mean, like it's all in all, it's all out there.

Like we were on CNN. It was a thing thing. Anyway, very quickly I was like, you can make money like this for doing nothing. I'd be here anyway. Every famous person you could ever think of was there. Everyone, including, I have video of Leo there. He's like 16, you know what I mean?

Ultimately, so the getting in was, it was that, it was like a, it was almost like a natural rite of passage because I never really thought I would do that because I had been going out all my life and all my friends had done it. People thought I did nightlife, but I didn't. And then I'm like, wait a second, this is easy. And yeah, and I was already old enough where I was like,

I don't care about these drugs and I don't really care about like these girls. I'm not gonna have a relationship with someone I meet in the clubs. So ultimately I just was there to make money. You were easily separating. I was, because my life was different. I had a life.

It was like when I became close with Axl Rose, another story, Axl, I was a guy in Hollywood that like had his whole own life. I didn't need Axel Rose for anything. That turned into another bunch of hate and arrows and craziness. But ultimately, he wanted to be friends with me because he was like, this guy's the real McCoy. And he understood what the panache of that was or the cachet of that was. And that was interesting to him. And so we were peers, you know?

I wasn't a rock star, but like we were, he didn't see me as like the guy who does the drugs or gets the girls. I've never been that guy for anyone, even in the clubs. Like people are like, hey, make sense of girls to the table. No, I just put 300 girls in the building. You figure it out. You know what I mean?

Like I've never been that person. I mean, that's how we were too. That's how you've probably kept all of, just the, like talk about the relationships. Everyone trusted you, you know? that's how we were too. That's how you've probably kept all of, just talk about the relationships. Everyone trusted you. Everyone, like you were friends, but you were trusting, well, you were growing up with those guys

in the same world though. That's crazy, dude. I was shocked that you could make money like that because I was in a relationship at the time and I was like, I work four hours a week and I can live my life. Right. And then you get incorporated and you pay your taxes and you can like live my life. You know, and then you get incorporated

and you pay your taxes and you're like, this is just too easy. And then the Alliance started right when you got here was when the Alliance started in 2000. Alliance was like 2000, right? And that Frankie was talking about bringing the name back the other day actually. But then by the time I met you,

like that was now three years. We had taken nightlife and done multiple nights a week. And now we're doing huge events. Right, so now it changes. The big Maxim Super Bowl, like you know, Village at the Lift and Sundance. We were doing a lot of big, big events because everyone was like, this demographic is where we want to spend our marketing money. And we were like, no problem. And so I can't believe my ergonomic output at that time in my life, what I could do. I managed a band called Dead Sea that had this incredible band that had a big record deal on DreamWorks.

I had multiple nights a week. We threw multiple big parties, probably like at least one a month, marketing contracts, Heineken, Cadillac, you name it. Like, if you told me I would have to work like that today, I would just literally go stick my head in the sand like an ostrich. I don't know how I did it.

I guess when you're young, you have this resilience. But I mean all that's going on and you know Then Matt like like perfect example, there's Matt college, but then he's in Arizona Yeah, and then he's you know, then he's just not around and then when he is around He's got a little baby and we still saw each other There's that there's a great video of us in the dugout club at Dodger Stadium and Cole is itty bitty, sleeping on Matt's chest. I'm sitting next to Matt and there's this yokel next to us saying, hey, hey, you're his grandpa.

I'm like, and Matt is, Matt used to always make fun of me for being older. Like he made so much fun of me always. Like that was his way that he could always make fun of me. Okay. Did you get to? I know the picture. I'm thinking, it's a freaking video. It exists. I'm like, thanks a lot. He's asleep. He's too. My God, dude. Did you, were you able

to like now once the alliances started, you mentioned all the things. Is it similar to movies or even like a sports team in the sense where you kind of know if you have something that's gonna work, how soon do you know, hey, we're gonna either open this place or do this party, is it a certain thing where, oh, this is gonna need time or do you know? You don't have that luxury.

First of all, when I started. So many places don't make it and change right away. We don't have that, we never had that. I mean, maybe way down the line, but like when it mattered, my runs were longer than anyone's ever. You knew when you were gonna open a spot just because of whatever contacts, relationships, and how you ran it, that it was gonna be successful.

And it might last a year, my last class. We really had the market cornered. We were like a mafia. And I was tough. Yeah. I fought. The second night of Ladoo, which was so hot, the second or third night, the guys that were,

the manager guys, they were sneaking people in the back. And I'm like, dude, do that on your shit Wednesday. Don't do it on the Friday, buddy. And it was a, I almost strangled the guy. But we knew this thing was gonna have a run of all time. Well, remember we were sitting in the front of my house and Hart was like, dude, you gotta apologize to him. I was like, motherfucker.

I couldn't believe I was gonna have to apologize to this fucking guy for sneaking horrible people in the back of this thing. We always said, we're gonna do everything that you think we're gonna do. Get out of the way, leave us alone, don't ask any questions, make your money, hand us our check on time, just get out of the way. Leave us alone. Don't ask any questions. Make your money. Hand us our check on time.

Just get out of the way. Let us do our thing. Like I'm not being an asshole, but all you're gonna do is fuck it up. Nothing that you're gonna do is gonna help. You don't help. We don't need your help, to answer your question.

The greatest run for you, is it Teddy's? Like the one that just got- No, the greatest run is Hyde, this last 10 years of Hyde. And it's still going. I just, Granville, that first one, because it was in a completely different time. And it's the first one that you just did. No, the greatest run is high, this last 10 years of high. And it's still going high. I just grand build that first one because it was in a completely different time. And it's the first one.

You know? Yeah, that and well, I had done, yeah, I mean, yes, that was the first one where like, I'm now up to my neck in this thing. Even though it was like one day a week, like you could like live your life. But there was times getting into that period where I was doing four and five nights a week.

That's a whole different. But you're also like, you're just gathering because you're like, they're all gonna fly. And so, I never had that experience. Now Village at the Lift at Sundance, which was in Entourage, pretty incredible. We landed and we didn't know it. And Sundance, by the way, you know Sundance

has left Park City. I know, I just saw that. I know that we're part of the reason. Like, we were- They're going to Austin? Where are they going to? Somewhere in Colorado. Oh, Boulder. Boulder, Boulder, yeah, yeah. So we took the town lift. Fred Siegel had a thing. We had all the gifting. It was just incredible.

It was a vision of a guy called Jeffrey Best, who's a visionary in that. And Jeffrey had us, called Jeffrey Best, who's a visionary in that. And Jeffrey had us, but the first year, like the Sundance thing hadn't happened, happened yet. There was a guy called David Pinsky, who was the Motorola guy that we got all our phones from. They had a party, Levi's had a house, but we synthesized that thing that really ruined Sundance. And, but those years there,

we created the championship Sunday party, which I remember I couldn't get my dear friend, Matt Liner, to do it with us for some reason. I did a party there for a while. No, you were up the street at some bullshit, and we were throwing the sickest party at Village at the Lift. But the point is, that was one we didn't know, but it was so new and exciting.

It had never happened. And then it turned into the thing. So much so that Entourage Films, you know what I mean? We were giving them like washers and dryers for crying out loud. The very next year after we aired that episode too, I started getting calls from back home from my Brooklyn buddies who were like-

Hey, let's go to Focus Sundance. They wanted to go to Sundance. Like, we wanna go see some art films. You wanna go see some shorts? Where you like, no, bro, we wanna go. They wanted to go to Sundance. Like, we want to go see some art films. You're gonna go see some shorts. You're like, no, bro, we want to go. They wanted to have the experience that you helped bring there. That's all they were interested in.

I'm like, wow, I never thought. I remember playing basketball in one of those houses up on the hill, somewhere in Park City, with Shooter McGavin. He's still Shooter McGavin. I saw him the other day. No matter what he's in, he's in hats. Shooter McGavin. Well, you know. I saw him the other day. No matter what he's in, he's in hat shooter McGavin. Well, you know, I want to ask you to, um, so like Jerry's questions,

we start shooting on storage, right? And there was even a time where I think, I don't know if we shot, I think it was prey at the time or whatever. And again, I didn't go out. I'm going into a switching lens. Oh, I rememberual mode, thank you. Oh, oh. I remember, you know, 6 a.m. call time, and then you're seeing the clubs at the bright, like bright daylight, and I'm like, wait a minute, we were here last night, it looks so different.

But, you know, Entourage comes on, we definitely tried to emulate and show a little bit of what the LA nightlife was. I guess I'm asking you, in that respect. Did you? How do you think we did? You didn't. We didn't.

Because the acuteness of what was special, you can't, extras don't work for that. Well, yeah, we couldn't show that. But in terms of like the, how we were rolling. Oh, the prescient things? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess so. You know, your guys were a little bit shading towards this other group

of nightlife people. But yet it's funny how you were still in all our spots. All your spots. And so, but I guess that means I didn't have to have the corny cameo like so many people did. We name checked Teddys, we name checked a lot of your spots. By the way, I had forgotten when I rewatched recently, I had forgotten you guys did Village

because you guys obviously didn't do it, you probably did it like second weekend. But like, you didn't do it when it was like, you couldn't film when we were firing. You had to go back in and recreate. But yes, in answer to your question, Lev and Doug and all you guys, yes, you guys hit all the spots for sure.

I mean, Entourage, this is a little name check for Jerry. I rewatched it early part of this year. I beasted through it. It is, other than the things that I think today for Jerry. I rewatched it early part of this year. I beasted through it. It is, other than the things that I think today would make people kind of uncomfortable, which everyone talks about. Which you could talk about in any show. It's not entourage's fault.

But you guys and Doug, and you guys really captured that thing. This thing that we keep talking about in answer to this last question. You guys captured it. But also because that part, Adrian, that's an impossible part to play. Everyone thinks it's Mark,

but it's really felt more like Leo to me. And not just because it mirrored Leo's career, not that, but because you have a guy that's in Leo's group of friends in the show. So like for all of us, Kevin Connolly, he's in Leo's group. It all made sense. And although Leo is from LA, so it's different that way. But like, it didn't feel like Mark as much as it did feel like Leo to us, because that was all happening. But once again,

that also tracked your question exactly what was happening. So, you know, it's some real good acting and some real those first two seasons are impeccable. So yes, the answer is yes. And even as it went, and we start to see all these great characters and all the friends who showed up and cast of Eddie shows up like, like it really for me, I'm really nostalgic. And now now is nothing. It's nostalgia now. Yeah, nothing new is that good anymore. So everybody harks back all these, you know, the deaf tones are an arena selling band. Limp Bizkit is as big as they've ever been. Like these, it's all kind of coming around corn

bigger than they've ever been. So looking back, like you guys really did it. And I think it's important if people want to know about that time, it really felt like that. Like you said the other day, Earth Cafe didn't have 75 girls and three dudes. That's where all my friends wanted to go. Like you're coming out to California, to LA to visit. You want to go to Earth Cafe? Yeah, we got to take with the Earth Cafe didn't have 75 girls and three dudes in the middle. That's what my friends wanted to go. Like you're coming out to California, to LA to visit.

You want to go to Earth Cafe? Yeah, we got to take me to Earth Cafe, bro. You think Entourage has the same success now as it did? I mean, I know it's a different time, and we talked about some of the things. You can't do what they did anymore. You can't do it. But- Well, no, because also, you know, a lot of it was also built on, yes, the friendship was a huge part of it, the loyalty, the trust, the same dynamic you two have always had. But then we always wondered, will people in Ohio or anywhere in the mid,

like give a shit about like the inner workings of movie stuff? That's what we always wondered, like, is it gonna go right? And that's the stuff that they devoured, like Vince chasing a movie, Ari walking into the office firing 14 people. Like his relationship with people ate that stuff up.

I think it's fair to say, and I mean this and I'm not being hyperbolic, when you talk about the great small screen characters Archie Bunker, Tony Soprano, there's lots of them. Ari Gold. Oh, for sure. For sure. The guy won how many Emmys? Three in a row, three Pete. Three Pete. Three Emmys in a row. And then he told me which you confirmed.

No improv. No improv. No ad-lib. That is crazy. That is crazy. That's by the way as an actor to make it seem like it is but it's not. It's great writing and he was hand-packed by that. And you know it's public, it's known.

But like. I think the real Ari said if Jeremy Piven's not playing Ari, you guys can't do the show. The real Ari was like, it's Piven, like it's gotta be. So ultimately, I'm sure you're proud. It's also interesting that you could just never do it again. Now, well, that's what I mean. Like, I think like that part, look, the business still goes on and there's still, but like the power deal, the power lunches, hey, that's what I mean. I think that part, look, the business still goes on and they're still, but the power deal, the power lunches. Hey, you gotta go meet this director at Hyde. This director wants to meet you at Hyde.

I don't think that's happening anymore. That funny old Martin Landau character got messed up. Right, Bob Ryan. Bob Evans. These things are not happening now because the business is a bunch of bean counters and streaming has changed everything. And there's a part about streaming that's incredible.

But like, and like there's, as we talked about, if you were an actor, when I was a professional auditioner, there were no jobs. Like when I got a role on 21 Jump Street on Fox. I'm gonna watch these episodes, man. I can't wait to turn these on. They're good. I didn't know.

When I got a role on that, like Fox, Fox was brand new. They worked that thing in, it was built on the backs of 21 Jump Street and married with children. And Simpson, was Fox, early Fox Simpsons? Yeah, it had to have been, because it's still on Fox, I imagine. But there was no jobs back then. Now, I mean, like I was saying the other day,

freaking Sci-Fi channel has 15 shows. Like everywhere has, and then all the streamers. So there's a lot of jobs, changes, the alchemy of what that was does not exist. All the objectification of women, that that doesn't fly anymore. I'm not saying it should, but I'm saying you just, you can't capture that

because that's not what would be captureable now. Now you're capturing NIL and OnlyFans. Like that's what, it's just different. I'm not saying it's worse or better. Yeah, E would be managing an OnlyFans creator, probably. Period. Dude, we know there's one of the best young kids in nightlife, it's a rich kid.

He has a separate business, you know what he does? He takes these girls and he manages them in OnlyFans. More power to him, but whoa. Probably killing it. This guy wasn't allowed to get like a thousand bucks for an apartment, but like, insane. But that's the way of the world and we can't fight it. Albert Einstein said't allowed to get like a thousand bucks for an apartment, but like insane. But that's the way of the world and we can't fight it. Albert Einstein said, beware technology, you know?

So we're here now and this is not going away. So it's only a matter of- No, I think the biggest thing too, for like the shift in the club life and you saw it. So like for us, we were pre, I mean, I got burned by the websites and all that. And that was kind of the start of it. But where was the shift in,

you're like, fuck dude, these kids just, like, I mean, the phone, you just talk about the technology. Like when did that, when for you did you see that? Is it the cameras or is it the social media? Because now they're just in the club, selfies. Well, first before the camera, we didn't let promoters into our clubs.

My parties, no other, if you worked in nightlife, you couldn't come into our parties. Frankie was the only person I ever let in. Part of how we built up friendship. Frankie was the only one, he got it. This kid got it, my Gemini brother, he got it. But Hart and I, we didn't let anybody into our clubs if you worked in nightlife, nobody.

Because you'd just be in there on your phone getting up all our stuff. So that was the first thing, or we'd take your phone. Then came the cameras and we were stopping it to the point where it became impossible to stop. And then it turned like it had, then it just turned into people walking in the club like this.

You almost gotta lean into it. Yeah, they're like, I mean, don't bang your head into the girder over there. I still say that shit. People just walk into the phone, just the way it is. It's fine. I don't mind being the get off my lawn guy, but it's fine. Because by the way, they're also they're hyping your club at this point.

So it's a completely different model. College football is completely different. Being a young trying to work actor on HBO is completely different. Everything is different. You know, part of, part of the scheme. It's funny, Connelly told me that. He's like, you gotta ask John, did I roll with too many dudes back in the day?

So Connelly wanted to know. Kevin to me felt like a kid who was in it, even though he didn't grow up here. He was on that TV show with the fucking puppet. Unhappily, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in Granville, probably underage, and I always just saw him as, if you're doing the thing, the one thing I hated when I was a kid that went to clubs,

I hated only seeing some knucklehead because he had a movie out. Like, get out of here. You're only out this week because you have some bad movie out. It's like promoting your movie. You're just here this week or you live here, but no one knows you.

Like, it was secular. There's no secular anymore. When I was coming up, there was the rock clubs, the bougie clubs, the other clubs, the downtown clubs, the art clubs. Now it just, it all just became bottle service and don't matter. And that's fine because you know what?

We made a lot of money and you know, that's how we support our families, you know? So ultimately I have many other hustles and always have. Sometimes friends will still ask me to go be in a movie. You know what I mean? Like I've been fortunate enough to act with the most incredible people and make things and create things and do side hustles.

And like, we love this stuff right here. We're gonna rip some in a minute. We love sports memorabilia, sports cards. Like I'm still the kid that way, teaching my son that. You got some crazy sports memorabilia. As we know, you rolled up. This is like ridiculous. You rolled up. Dude, I have, I have like a sort of like a place where you keep your art and stuff. You just keep it in like a vault somewhere. Yeah, you lock it up.

You pay people and it's like temperature control. But I was walking off the field with Keith Rivers and the Notre Dame, the famous game with the goo, the grass and crippled Desmond. They crippled some other people too. Walking off that the Bush push game and I get Reggie's gloves. I have the Reggie Bush gloves that made the Bush push. So I have, you know, as a sports fan, when you're young, I have a Kevin Garnett, a Farragut Academy. It's known as the Ronnie Field jersey. It was his buddy that got hurt. Ronnie Field sold it, I got it for like 800 bucks. But you know, that's like a $30,000 item. Like, you know, ultimately, along the way, you collect what you like, you collect what,

like I bought a pair of LeBron game worn shoes, year two, because I'm like, this is gonna be the guy, duh. So I mean, like you, you know, you collect what you like, but you also collect what you, you take a shot you collect what you like, but you also collect what you, you take a shot and collect what you think. Like recently I got a Miguel Cabrera World Series rookie game use helmet signed from his rookie season.

Rookie everything's worth more. But you know, people don't realize, there's only like three players that have the numbers of Miguel Cabrera. They're like the greatest players in the history. It might be the greatest right-handed batter. I mean, he's just, his numbers are crazy. Nick Chanak, who's like gonna be the next Scott Boris,

he works for Casey Wasserman. Nick brought him out a couple of years ago, one night when I met him. By this point, Miggy's like, 50, and just hammered. 300 pounds. And like, Craig's with sauce on his shirt. But I'm like, it's Miggy, though, dude. So it's part of the great joy and part of the things

that we teach our kids and part of the things that like, you know, their mothers allow us is that, you know, we still love sports. And that's something that's, it's like music. That's the tapestry of our life. You know, and you teach that to your kids and they get it. It's the greatest feeling in the world, you know, and they keep it going on, they keep the code going. And so part of sticking with what you love, hanging with your tribe, because we all love it. Even, I basically do Super Bowl every year at Bob Downey's house.

Bob Downey don't really care about sports, but he loves a good function. And he has this amazing property. And he loves that like Super Bowl has become this thing. It's essentially my Super Bowl party at Bob's house. Bob don't care. I remember once we went to a Laker game in the Jerry Bus time,

because my old friend Rick had lived with Jerry Bus. Like we had the attache of the Jerry Bus crowd. We're going to the game. And this is kind of like in the time when everybody's real out of it. We roll to the game. We're walking into warmups at the forum. And Downey looks at me and goes,

what city are the Woolridges from? What city are the Woolridges from? So once in a while, I'll send him a picture of like an Orlando Woolridge card that I find. But it's your friends. It's your friends who they may not care, but they love the ritual. Yeah, the ritual is great.

And so ultimately sports and rock and roll, I think. I don't know why that one just floored me, Josh. What? With Josh. I think we're talking about like kids and one of the- That's so good. I think one of the cool moments between you and I when I found out you're gonna be a dad

and with your son, do you see- Christina made my life. Yes, and- I'll fucking cry. No, well, I'm just- Christina made my life. Yes, and. I'll fucking cry. No, well, I'm the same here. Not the turn, it's just more the kid stuff because you have lived this life full of just incredible, just everything.

You've seen everything, right? And I feel like, Jared, we've lived great lives. We're like our kids, Cole's old, I have little. Do you see a lot, is true following in your footsteps? Does he have the same passions? I mean, I know he's a big baseball, but like as a dad. It's so hard for us. What is it like?

First of all, you know, he's beautiful. And he's got the hair like, I know. He's just an absolute rockstar. He's a mini you. Everyone thinks their kid is and everyone loves their kid. So I'm gonna sound like the corny dad. He loves everything I love.

He has the best taste in music. People will meet him. They'll start reeling stuff off about punk rock and rock and roll. And I'm like, he has better music taste than you, dude. Or than anyone you know. But yeah, with sports, what we're finding out, and I think dads and parents find this out,

and I'm sure you guys have seen it. Just cause they're good at something doesn't mean they're passionate about it. Right, very true. So that's been a really like, That's what you're dealing with. True's been on a heater lately. But like at All Star practice yesterday,

like you know, you had a couple bad at bats and he's been on a heater. But like, you know, ultimately he's back fine home talking about the Minecraft movie we saw. Like he like, he's not gonna go home and watch Dodger game to like look at stuff, you know? So the thing that's happened, which is scary, is he's really into the theater.

That's not, that's okay. And he's catching big parts in like first through fifth grade, but he's in second, but he's getting like the big parts that go to the fifth graders. And he's in second, but he's getting like the big parts that go to the fifth graders. And he's super into it. Now we are not going to go that route. But if he's into theater while he's in school,

it seems to be the thing that he's most inclined, but it also comes the easiest to him in answer to your question. It comes really easy to him. If he's passionate, you still will try and steer him. You can talk about that when he's 18. Yeah, I'm kind of up to speed. That's what we always say.

Not trying to build no Corey Haynes and no Leif Gerrits. Yeah, no, no. These kids' childhoods were destroyed. And people always say, oh, well, Josh, you could navigate it better than anyone. I'm like, it's not about me. It's about him.

I know how to deal with you and how he handles rejection. Yeah, that's not fair. We've been talking about this for an hour. Yeah. In 19, 20, 21, you guys couldn't handle shit. Oh, and now an eight-year-old's supposed to be able to handle being on a movie. Yeah. It's scary enough who his godfathers are,

you know what I mean? So it's just like, you know, he's primed for it, but he has a great head on his shoulders. He's a really good student. His mom is just on top of him. Like she is incredible. You know, people are like, does she You know, people like, does she work? I'm like, does she work?

It's the hardest job in the world, you know? Like breadwinner is the breadwinner, but the work, I mean, that's why like Josie with her being a lawyer, like insane, insane. So in answer to your question, yeah, like, like. I love it. I just, it's, it's, it's, you watch them, you nurture them. Everyone always says, make sure they're having fun.

Then they start to get competitive. He's also crazy competitive. Yeah. About everything. He'll cheat you at everything. You wouldn't want it any other way. He cheats his grandma. Listen.

I've seen him playing soccer in the yard with his grandma the other day. I'm like, glam, play hard defense on him. She plays hard defense, he gets pissed, he gets all fired up. And he starts doing like slide kicks and knocking your dad. That's his grandmother. And he's tiny anyway.

So I think you're seeing, I mean, Mike Brady over here with your 15 kids. You do have strong Mike Brady vibe. I've been to match house, it's dope. It's just like a court of everything, riding cars, like you name it. And now there's new ones. And there's new ones. That is the last time I took a hit

was going on the roller coaster. Are you guys done? Yeah. Yes, dude. I mean, it's a lot. Yeah, I got four kids. Hopefully Cole can kind of be a surrogate. He's going to college in like eight months.

Even being friends with Matt. I'm gonna root for SMU. Yeah. Being friends with Matt could get you in so little. Cause now my wife wants a third. Oh, God, yeah. And I think seeing you guys has definitely not helped. I think Josh is the wrong,

Josh is like, no, don't do it. No, no, I'm just saying like- We have friends who have five, I don't even think they've met the fifth. Five is ridiculous. That fifth one is gonna raise themselves, like you're on your own, kid. It has an iPad at six months.

It is true. We have no iPad in our house, no video games. Yeah, that's the hardest thing to, but it's all worth it. I will say this, video games has been hard for me because I love video games. I grew up on video games. And no, our kids are, we're pretty,

when Mimi's in town, she gives them the iPad and we're just like, was that grandma? This is grandma in Miami and she's the best. Grandparents are allowed to do that. No, like what are we gonna do? She's here for four weeks and then we don't see her for four months. Like they go back to normalcy pretty quickly.

I've been told by every parent, the longer you stave it off, the better. So, 1,000%. But it's just like, I just like, I love video games. Can I admit something boys? I can't wait to play like Mario Kart. Hurtle, Maddie Ice and the guy in the socks are talking about dad stuff.

Josh, you're the man bro. That was... Guys, I felt like we could have gone for hours. I felt like there's a million things we didn't even touch. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders shop now at no frails.ca All right, it's now time for the flavor of the week presented by Wendy's find your new

favorite frosty fusions flavor today with choices like Oreo, Brownie, caramel crunch and pop tarts strawberry. You know, Matt, I can't say I'm like the biggest Beatles fan, but something, I am a fan, but something that struck me, Paul McCartney. The only greatest musical band of all time. I think that's why, right? Look, I like the Beatles, I like their music,

but it's because since I was a kid, it's like, you know who the greatest band is of all time, the Beatles, got it. But you know what is impressive? Paul McCartney at 83 years old just announced a 19 show tour in the US and Canada, starting September 29th in Palm Desert, California. You should go see him and ending back to back nights at the United Center in Chicago. So what do you think?

Real quick, what do you think you're going to be doing at 83? Of course you hope to be alive. That's number one. I hope my heart's still beating. I could tell you this right now. If I had Paul McCartney financials. Here's what I'm not doing at 83. I'm not going on tour, playing a bunch of shows,

even though I love it. Just catch me at the golf course or something. If you're golfing at 83, good for you. He's going on tour. If you could go on tour. Yeah man, some people are golf They're born with it. I just don't think what are you doing at 83? Are you still doing? You're done right I'm dead, bro

All right, but if you happen to be alive, you are you at the lake you on the ocean You're probably at a lake house at 83. I'm for sure in a wheelchair cuz my body is already hurting All right, this is getting too sad for our good friends at Wendy's? But it did get me thinking. Spruce this up. So the Beatles, obviously one of the greatest groups, foursomes in music history. And it got me thinking foursomes, whether it's sports and then maybe music, television, for some reason, four seems like the number.

If you think about like foursomes in golf, you go out to a restaurant, four top, four table top. Well, two is a good number, but it's like three's kind of a shitty number. Four is like the number. Four is a good number. Entourage was four. So it got me thinking of some of our favorite foursomes

in either sports, music, entertainment. And I have a few to discuss. Do you have any? Well, I've got two. You want me to go? Let's alternate. Yeah. I mean, look, I could be a Homer and do any Lakers.

I could do the Showtime Lakers. I could probably come up with some type of Dodgers. Although the four is a little harder on baseball. I'm going with the greatest show on turf. The St. Louis Rams before. Yeah. The St. Louis Rams, my former teammate, Kurt Warner, Marshall Falk, I think he's the most underrated running back of all time. Isaac Bruce and Tori Holt. And that to me wise because one, they won a Superbowl, but they changed kind of the game, how it was played. Now, offense is spread out, throw, right?

Like it's high scoring. Back then they did that, they were just before their time and Kurt was a big part of it. And playing with Kurt, I kind of learned that because he would tell me the stories back in the day and they would get five, Mike Martz called the plays and they would get five guys out and they would just run and gun, man.

And it was beautiful to watch. And I was about 16, 17. So I was kind of like, that's when I was getting recruited and to play in college and all that. So I would do the greatest show on turf. And if anyone's listening, like go watch Highlights, man. They were, Marshall Falk was like a Reggie Bush, right? Like that I played in college.

Marshall Falk was unbelievable. Like you Bush, right? Like that I played in college. Marshall Falk was unbelievable. Like you asked, you asked Kurt, I've asked Kurt and we had Kurt on the show. He might've said it's the best football player. He talked about it a little bit. The best football player he's ever played with, Marshall Falk. And he's played with Hall of Famers

and Hall of Famers and Hall of Famers. The second one, I'm gonna give you love. I think it's Turtle, Vinnie Chase, Johnny, Drama and E. I think when you look back at Entourage, it is to this day one of the most iconic shows on television that I've ever watched because of the story, because of the characters, how long it lasted.

I mean, you can speak more than me, but that foursome, it just worked. It was just a perfect, past perfect. Everyone played their role perfectly. It was hilarious. It was serious. It was everything you could imagine. And I'm not just pumping you up, bro. It's one of the greatest foursomes of all time. And I'm still waiting for my signed entourage from everybody. What makes me laugh about that is I, I literally, I remember the line and I remember saying this line at the time, like this is stupid, but then it actually made sense. My character has a line in one of the episodes where the Dom character, our homie from back in Queens gets out of jail and he just drops in in our life, right? And causes havoc. But Vince loves having him around

and we want him gone, turtle in drama. So I remember saying the line, I think, to Connelly's character, I was like, four is just the perfect number, bro. Like, what are we gonna do? Get a minivan if we have five? Like, four is the perfect number. And at the time I thought it was a,

not a dumb line, but I didn't really get it and now I do, because even if you look at like great shows like Seinfeld, Kramer, Jerry, George, Elaine, you know, Friends was a little different. They had six, but- They had more, yeah. I don't know. I do think it's like Ninja Turtles.

It's one of my great foursomes of my childhood was Ninja Turtles for sure. That's actually a good call. And I think the whole history of it, you know, boy bands are probably, and girl pop groups are maybe five at times, but I just think with four, the theory is there's usually something in it for everyone, right?

You can kind of cover a lot of human traits with four characters that people could identify with. Now, that being said, you ready for the Homer moment of the week? Can I just throw out a guess? It's either going to be the New York Knicks or the New York Yankees. You are correct. It is not the Knicks because I don't think the Knicks until now have really ever had

four. Yeah, they go back to the nineties, but you know, but not like an elite four. I mean, this foursome was called in New York, the core four. That was their nickname. And with the Yankees. Do you remember? Is this like, I don't know, is this Jeter or is this like- It's Jeter, Posada, Rivera, and Pettit. Oh, Pettit.

Yeah, and it's good that you mentioned A-Rod. That's your all time foursome? Yes, for sure, Matt. They won four World Series in like seven years and they went to the world series two more times. So where I got confused is I thought it was Bernie Williams, but Bernie Williams was actually older than them. But you know, Martinez. So here's why they were the core four. They were all players that came up through the Yankee system. They were Yankees from the beginning. And I think that was always why I loved it.

And not that I had issues with the, the Oh nine championship team. I was a great team, but the Yankees then took on that identity of let's go sign Giambi, let's sign eight, let's trade for a rod. Let's acquire these big, big stars. Jimmy Layrits was a Yankee for life, man. So that core four and we had them for so long. And then you look at the hall, I mean, hall of famers right there. So that Core Four, and we had them for so long, and then you look at the hall,

I mean, hall of famers right there. So that to me is the best force of the sports. I don't wanna hear, you gotta give a tip of the cap though, to the Miami Heat. We called them the Heatles, like the Beatles, cause they were a show. LeBron, D Wade, Bosch.

And they were a pretty big spectacle. We might forget. I mean, Celtics, Pierce, Garnett, Allen, Rondo. They won a title. That's one ring. I'd almost put the Draymond, Steph, Clay, Durant Warriors over that if they were to stay. The problem is it didn't end well.

They ended like a boy band. They crashed out and ended up arguing. How about, I mean, magic cream worthy Cooper. You can't argue phenomenal, but I'm curious to hear some other people's cause we're, we're kind of bringing our own towns into that. That just the boom was a good one. We don't really talk NFL defenses. Now it's time for control your game presented by NHTSA.

When you speed, you have less time to react. Follow the speed limit to keep other road users safe. Speeding catches up with you. Paid for by NHTSA. So got to thinking, I got to go on a road trip tomorrow to Indiana. You're flying in. We're doing some stuff at the WNBA All-Star weekend. Got to keep it under wraps for now, but we're shooting some fun stuff for you out there. I'm on a four and a half hour road trip. So I'm driving, so I can't obviously watch anything because I'm going to drive safely. But it got me thinking if I was a passenger on a four hour road trip, which is different than an airplane this off air. What is some of Matt's road trip movies? If you're going four hours, Josie's driving, maybe it's just the two of you driving up

the coast. What are you firing up on the iPad? This one is super easy for me. I'm not going to overthink it. I'm, I'm comedy through and through. That's what's going to get, that's what's going to get me. If I'm going to sleep, I'm just going to sleep. But if I'm going to, I'm going gonna sleep, but if I'm gonna be entertained,

I'm gonna laugh and be entertained. It is very simple. Number three is Happy Gilmore. Number two is Old School. And number one is The Hangover. It is not even close. The Hangover is a great road trip movie. Anyway, they go on the road trip to,

like Happy Gilmore to me is one of my favorite movies of all timemore to me is one of my favorite movies of all time. Old school is one of my favorite. I'm a big comedy guy. So old school is one of my favorite movies all in time. Quotable, laugh. Like you, like, and those are three movies

that you could watch a dozen times and still like still find it funny and still laugh at the dumb jokes or the scenes that are funny. So it's simple. Like honestly, it's like, that's easy for me. That's good. What's your excitement level for Happy Gilmore 2

about ready to drop on Netflix in a week I think. Super pumped, I know. That was the plug into Happy Gilmore 2. Shout out to Adam Sandler and all the guys. I think Justin Thomas, our friend of the show. That's the one thing I regret about the Justin Thomas interview. We forgot to ask him about.

It was two months ago, three months ago. We were so excited to talk masters with him, we forgot to ask him about. It was two months ago, three months ago. We were so excited to talk masters with him. We forgot to ask him about being happy. But we did talk to him. We did talk to him the other day about my form. That was good. Okay. You just light up, bro.

Shout out to Nitsa, thank you. Shout out to Nitsa. You just light up when we do that. Give me your movies. Okay. And then I gotta end with, don't let me forget what I was just about to say. All right.

So I'm a little different. Obviously I like comedy. I can't really lock into any superhero actiony stuff while you want, you want a big screen for that. But if I'm on a road trip as a passenger, I actually want road trip movies. It just sets the tone for me. Uh, number three, road trip, the road trip, lack of a better phrase. I think, by the way, if you haven't seen Road Trip in a while, that's a worthy re-watch. It's a funny, funny movie. Number two for me, see, I go old school with my brother here.

We were big Smokey and the Bandit kids. Big, I don't know if you ever watched that. That's old school Trans Am, Burt Reynolds, just cowboy. Are you really, when you're in the past. Smokey and the Bandit's fantastic the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that. I'm going to be the one to do that.

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Especially the first one driving the Wally world shout outs to Chevy Chase Clark W Griswold But then the tie for me not a comedy so you might not love it Midnight Run De Niro Oh De Niro, can you please watch Midnight Run? Basically a bounty hunter chasing around a perp for two hours. It's incredible. It's an incredible movie. So, but you're just a true, you're, you're speaking like a true actor. You're very diverse. You get all these three. I just go three easy comedies to laugh at. See, I'm different when I'm on a plane. I want comedy cause I just

really want to zone out. And if I feel like if I'm in a car, I could, you know, from a passenger, I can have my coffee and watch a nice little movie. So shout outs to NHTSA. Right before we go, you mentioned Justin Thomas and how I lay up for golf. One of the best things that's happened since we do the show is I can now text Justin Thomas and he writes back to us pretty timely. This dude liner did the unthinkable. We talked to, we talked to him. We talked to Thomas about this in the interview.

Like how many amateur Sunday golfers ask you for swing up Matt took his clip from when you were at Were you just in Tahoe playing golf and he texted Justin Thomas his swing said break me down here What am I doing wrong and Justin Thomas within seconds gave you some instant feedback. That was incredible I was well, first of all, first of all, I started by saying, guys, check out my sick golf content because they track my, I had a par putt on a legit hole from about five feet out. I obviously missed it, but that's why I bogeyed it, which was pretty cool. But genuinely, I was like, dude,

genuinely, am I standing too straight up? Because like, that's what I feel. Yes. And you're tall. And I'm tall, so I'm like, and that's, and then we went on this whole back and forth banter that somehow got- He went in on it, he joined you. He was like, nah, Matt, you are a little tall,

I bend a little bit, you don't wanna be pushed, think about not being pushed over. He was like, but you're an athlete. I said, bro, I'm old with new hips, I mean, I'm an old athlete, I need some help. He's jaded. He took a dig at me and himself. He said, so it might be a little harder for you

to get in an athletic posture because you're so tall and you play football. But Jerry and I have no problem doing it. All I know is if I need to get ahold of you, I'll just start a group chat with JT because I know you'll respond right away. I got to be careful. I can't just respond to that without responding

to any previous texts because then I out myself. Well, anyway, a good episode today. Josh Richmond, man. What a guy. And I think we got to follow up with him down the road with stuff like some, we have to bring in like a question like, Hey Josh, we're going to specifically talk about this. Come give us your take as a friend of the show. So shout out Josh Richman. We're off to Indiana, Indianapolis, WNBA All-Star Weekend content coming from us there. And yeah, we'll see you next week. All right. Peace.