Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - The Triple Option and Throwbacks Live presented by Nissan | Day 2

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

LIVE from Green Bay, WI — it’s The Triple Option and Throwbacks Live presented by Nissan! Heisman Trophy winners Matt Leinart and Mark Ingram, 3-time national champion coach Urban Meyer, former Entourage star & actor Jerry Ferrara & broadcaster Rob Stone crossover for an unforgettable special. The Triple Option and Throwbacks are teaming up to bring you the most insightful, entertaining, and detailed coverage of the draft. From Matt and Mark’s draft day memories to Urban Meyer’s inside look at the pre-draft process, to Jerry's diehard fandom takes, we’re diving deep into the biggest stories & moments, as well as expert analysis on top prospects like Cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Shedeur Sanders and more! Plus, future Hall of Fame Cornerback Patrick Peterson stops by.    A big thank you to our presenting sponsor: Nissan | The All-New Armada is here! Go to Nissanusa.com/Armada to learn more.   As well as our additional sponsor : Wendy’s | Find your new favorite Frosty flavor today with choices like Brownie Batter, Strawberry and Caramel Swirl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the good afternoon from the green bay wisconsin day two right outside Lambeau field as we welcome you to the triple option and throwbacks presented by Nissan live from the draft house here in green bay.

Today's weather confirming I'm not coming to green Bay for spring break. All right, it's done. But listen, these guys go on. I'm a little nervous about coach over here. Coaches are banging on these hand warmers. Can we get coach a jacket? Can someone get coach a jacket? Oh, good. Listen, there were some concerns. I'll be honest with you.

Like what kind of crowd would we get here? Day two at the draft. The weather is cold. It's drizzly. I said time out. Reminder. We are in the great state of Wisconsin these people are going to show up also we promise free cheese and beer so I think that helps bring everybody in love having you guys here you guys have been wonderful hosts for all of us for everybody involved with the NFL draft so thank you so much again and our thanks to Nissan here at the draft house House in Green Bay. Take adventure to new heights in the all new 2025 Nissan Armada. Go to NissanUSA.com slash Armada to learn more.

Those of you who are live here, you saw the awesome Armada in literally the front yard, like in the front yard, towing the biggest Heisman Trophy I've ever seen. Mark Ingram over here, Matt Leiner, Urban Meyer, Jerry Ferraro, Rob Stone. Glad you're with us. Mark, I gotta admit, I'm a little worried about you right now. Oh, we good. I'm built for the weather. You here? Yeah, you look like it. Yeah, I got hooded up. You know what I mean? It's a cold weather podcast host. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we in here, man. I'm with the people. We love the

people. And the people love me. That they do. So, round one. Hey, but one thing, I got beef with the intro cuz he said you the best soccer player up here, man. I got the footy skills. the people. And the people about that. We'll talk about that later. Round one in the books. Today it is round two and round three from here in Green Bay. Before we pivot to what should really be a fascinating Friday evening, let's talk about round one. We've got two round one picks here, Mark and Matt. What happens, really curious, what happens when you get that phone call through the course of the night and where you guys are at this juncture in kind of day one of being a professional athlete? I'll start with you, Matty.

Yeah, it's crazy. Why? Because he went higher than me? Is that why you're so serious? Mark, I'll start with you. Or is it because I'm black? No, because I'm- I'm just playing, I'm just playing, I'm just playing, I'm just playing. It's because I'm your elder.

I'm just talking about today. I'm your elder. Is that how it's going to be today? God. Wow. How is this going to be today? We'm your elder. Is that how it's gonna be today? Wow! How is it gonna be today? We gotta make it hot! Make it spicy out here today. Yeah, well first of all, I was a part,

were you a part of the New York Dress, right? You were in New York, yeah. So I was a part of the New York Dress where they used to do it at Radio City Hall, which is really cool. So then they only invited a handful of people. So when I was there it was a gosh Let me Mario Williams who went one Reggie Bush Vince Young AJ Hawk Wow AJ Hawk was there

Debrick to brickish off Ferguson and myself and Vernon Davis, so there's like seven of us Anyway, I get drafted number 10 to Arizona you get the call. It's Everything you can imagine you saw it last night, it's just life changing. The emotions, for me the best part of the draft is the human part when you see these kids get drafted and the moment they have with their families. It's just a big, it's a life changing experience. Doesn't mean work's done, but it's life changing.

So basically what happens is you get drafted. Whoa, you do, oh I'm a little loud, can you guys, okay. You do, audio, audio'm a little loud, can you guys, okay. You do, oh my goodness. Audio, audio, can we turn that down? You get drafted, you do a kind of a media circuit right after a press conference, and then honestly, I think I was on a first flight out the morning to Arizona.

And you just. Private? No, not private, I was, I would think, I was commercial, economy in the back. Shut up. No, I think I was, I don't the back. Shut up. No, I think I was first. I don't remember, honestly. You definitely were first class.

I might have been first class. Listen, if you weren't first class, that might have been a sign of this to come. But it happens very fast. So yeah, it happens very fast. You're drafted. Awesome. You fly to the city.

You do the press conference. You meet everybody. And then it starts. And then I think, honestly, like a handful of days later was like OTA started right away. And you're right there three weeks later. You're looking for houses your your life completely changed upside down in a positive way And it's an incredible experience. So yeah, my experience was a lot different than Matt's just because we were in a lockout NFL in a lockout when I got drafted so

Yeah, they called my name obviously you get on the phone with the GM Markman Saints on the phone. We just traded back into the first round. Everyone's going crazy. I'm like, well, thank you, because I've been sitting here for so long. So I was picked the 28th pick, right? So I'm looking at the 28th pick last night.

I'm like, dang, it's been like four hours that they've been in there. And you could just see them walking down. And they were like, OK, I'm glad I finally went off the board. Yeah, so they get the call, you do your media circuit, all your media stuff, and then I didn't go to my team. My first day with my team was day one of training camp. I didn't have rookie mini camp, I didn't have OTAs,

because they were in a lockout. So yeah, I just, I hung out in New York, then I went back to New Orleans, because ironically I was training in New Orleans. So I had already a townhouse there, because when I was in Alabama, my best friend was my roommate, and he was from New Orleans. So we used to go down there to train with this trainer. So I trained with that trainer for combine prep. So I had a townhouse in New Orleans, so it all worked out right. So I just went back to New Orleans, to the townhouse that I was already in,

and I just trained and worked out until, you know, I was able to get with the team. It's fascinating to me, because it's a brave new world. Like, you were just dropped into a brand new city, and you have to figure out so many things. On the franchises side, coach, there's a lot of things you have to figure out as well. Obviously, the draft continues, but also you need to make sure your players that

you just picked are in a good place, whether that's financially, whether that's mentally, physically and everything else involved. Yeah. When I first started to get exposed to the draft was Alex Smith was my, the number one overall pick of the four and that was the first time I was a head coach at Utah, young head coach and. And the amount of attention and detail that they went into it, but most of that was, you know, the intangibles, leadership, toughness,

all the things that you wanna find out. When I went to Florida following that and then to Ohio State, my last dozen years, or last 10 years, Mark, it went from, they had all the analytics on how he could throw, toughness and all that. Every question was about how will this player handle money? The money became very significant,

not that it wasn't before, but I mean, became really significant, and I guess, I didn't really study it, but you saw players get that money and lose their hunger. And all of a sudden you see this beast of a player in college fighting for survival. You no longer fighting for survival. And every time, I mean, every time you'd have the GM, the head coach, when I had a Nick Bosa or Zeke Elliott type player, tell me about how he handles money.

Tell me about his, his posse people. Yeah his handlers. Yeah alcohol Drugs women that was all they asked me. Yeah, and so it became that the transition the last ten years or so They didn't ask me about how he handles third and six because they figured that out Tell me about his private life. Tell me about at practice. Does he have uncle showing up? Yeah, and people showing up because they want to avoid that they want. They want that same hungry dude that they're invested in.

Well, you're seeing that now, like a lot of what these teams want when you're investing millions of dollars into a player in the first round and you're committed to this player, you want to make sure that they have the right character and that they have the right people around them. You're seeing that a lot in the draft. Like when you have questions about your character, off-the-field questions like you start sliding and so that's kind of like a big go-to for these teams these days. All right so that's the player perspective,

that's the coach perspective. Let's talk about the fan perspective right as a fan. Let's see yesterday we saw a baby barfing, we saw a commissioner riding in on a bike and getting crushed by multiple congratulatory hugs. And we saw the New York Giants emerge from night one as one of the true winners, Jerry. Yeah, you know, we said on the show yesterday, too, I think the Giants came in here with the plan of a Carter and a QB.

That was always the plan. But we got so much early action with the Browns making that trade right away I kind of got worried about will the Giants do the same thing? So a lot of my New York buddies are now Basically locking back into this team in a different way and it's what we said yesterday, too Obviously you're watching all these players lives change but for the fan base, you know It's the shot at hope and then all the Giants fans right now are pretty hopeful It's the shot at hope and then all the giant fans right now are pretty hopeful After you're getting a quarterback and a player like Carter who I hear wants to maybe flirt with the idea aware number 56 Which is a you know LT territory in New York. So it's pretty bold statement early

Puppies settled got our attention. That's for sure. So Got my attention. It's just I don't wait. Just get your sign of bonus and go to work. Let's worry about 56 later. Yeah, it's true. No kidding. No kidding as well. All right. We're going to talk about some adventuresome picks coming your way here in day two, round two and three. And again, this is presented by Nissan. Take adventure to new heights in the all new 2025 Nissan Armada. Go to nissanusa.com slash armada to learn more.

And you take a look at a live picture of the brand new 2025 Nissan Armada. Roomy, spacious, powerful, luxurious, gorgeous. So we're going to talk about most adventurous pick by Nissan, round two, three, whatever it is today. And actually, no, let's go back to the most adventurous and pick from yesterday. I don't want to get ahead of myself quite yet. Let's wrap up round one.

And Mark, as always, I want to start with you. Well, I appreciate you. Not as always, just as of now. I want to start with you. And I also want I also want to placate our fans over here. The folks in the green and the yellow, what did you think of your first round draft pick yesterday? Yeah.

Finally, a wide receiver in the first round. What was that, the first time since what, like 2002? He said or something like that? 2002? Who was 2002? Javon Walker. Javon Walker. So Matthew Golden goes number 23 to the pack.

I just loved the pick, right, because of like, where we're at, we're here in Green Bay, right? And so you see like, draft is traveling now. So you get to see like a fan base really get excited about their pick. And so they were chanting, go, pack, go. They, the president comes out there, he's, you know, egging it on.

He tees it up. He's like, the first time since 2002, the Green Bay Packers draft the wire receiver and they start going crazy They hear the name. Yeah, then they say Matthew Golden they go crazy. They go absurd. He comes out He's like man. Let me get a green Bay on three one two, three green base So like you see the connection of like the draft like relocating to different cities You see this fan base except this player this player accept the fan base right back an immediate an immediate love an immediate like moment that I thought it was the most fire draft pick ever yeah yeah take that live mic and own the audience

they are in your hand right now you should have turned it up even more because they was ready to go but I wonder if they would have like picked a detackle would they have been that excited? But the wide receiver which is what they've been dying for in the first round it just it couldn't have worked out any better. That speed, that 4-2 speed you know give Jordan Love another weapon. For sure. I thought the moment was just iconic man and shout out to Green Bay man because what a great job they're doing hosting this thing. They showed their draft pick Love yesterday. He gave them Love back. So it might not be the most adventurous pick, but it was the most

genuine pick. It was awesome. I loved it, man. It was all the feels. It was all the love. So shout out to Green Bay. Shout out to the Packers, man. So Jerry, we talked earlier, your Giants, one of the big winners. I think one of the quiet, the stealth winners of the day was Atlanta also getting two picks in the first round. Yeah, I was a little shocked by that because, you know, when you look at the Atlanta offense, right? Bichon, London, pretty loaded, Penex expect big things. And then, you know, they get a linebacker at 15

and they did come back into the end of the first round and they did give up a 20-26 first round pick. So to me, they're saying this team is ready to go. We just have to bulk up the defense and we won't know for a few years how that works out. But you give up a first to trade into the back end of the first round. My coach was talking about yesterday, you know, the Jimmy Johnson value system might have been a little bit different, differential in the value. But I think Atlanta is gonna be a problem if those two picks work out. Jalen Walker, the linebacker from Georgia, then they stay in the the SEC always wise to take those SEC guys getting James Pierce from Tennessee

That was one of the conversations 15 SEC players went in the first round 11 from the big 10 just two from the ACC two from the big 12 one from Mountain West one from the FCS Coach let's pivot to you Cleveland and they traded out of that number two spot. And I feel they're walking away from day one feeling good, particularly what they have coming down the road this year and next year. Not even this year, tonight.

Yeah, I'm a Cleveland boy and I've followed the Browns my entire life. And they've been taken hit after hit. The Deshaun Watson story. Everything that's the criticism that's followed the Browns and a lot of it's justified. They expose themselves because I don't think many people would argue Travis Hunter is the best player in the draft, the best athlete, the best. Carter might be right behind him but the best talent in the NFL draft in 2025 is Travis Hunter. You trade that away and you take someone that

doesn't perform you're now exposed again and justifiably. I think Mason Graham I said this yesterday. We covered him. He's a Wolverine. We covered him. I saw what he did against the Buckeyes in the final game of 2025. I've also from the coaching perspective as an offensive coach my entire career every day every week I come in the first time I watch is that defensive line. If you can block the D line, we're good. We're good, we'll be good offensively. If you can't, you are in a shit show.

You're in a, you got a problem. Mason Graham will be ready day one. That's what I'm saying. The first day, the first game of 2025, that player will be the biggest impact player of the 2025 draft. He'll be starter starter ready to go. And they also I mean, they traded back.

So they got a first round next year, right? Two first round picks. And they have two of the first four picks in the second round today. And they still have Miles Garrett. They still have whatever that is going to be. Is he going to be locked and loaded in? Is he going to be a pawn that could be played a little bit later? One of the big talking points, obviously heading into tonight, and

one of the big talking points yesterday, of course, was Shador Sanders. Where would the quarterback from Colorado land? And there had been a lot of talk in the time leading up to the draft. Pittsburgh seemed like a right spot down there low in the first round. So it comes to Pittsburgh at number 21, Matt. Aaron Rodgers has to be going to Pittsburgh Steelers if this is happening. Because they don't have a pick again until the third round.

They don't have a second round pick today. So they're not unless they're as of now. So they picked Derek Harmon, the D Tackle from Oregon, 6'5", 320, a beast. And Coach, kind of go to your point. Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh, Cam Hayward's kind of on his way out. He's got maybe a year or two left. So it's a really good pick, but at 21, like Shador was there,

Jackson Dart was there. You know, I just don't know what they're doing. So adventurous pick, they went a solid pick on the D line to continue to shore up at Pittsburgh Steelers defense, which is what they're always known for, but they don't have a quarterback. So so it's just I don't know what they're doing and they don't have a pick until the third round like the 80 something pick as of now so they must know something that we all don't know or they just didn't feel as highly as you know obviously on those quarterbacks at that pick so I just think it's a good solid pick for them Derek Harman's a beast I mean you're talking a big old boy that could clog up the middle like

like a mason. Hypothetically if Aaron Rodgers is lined up to go to Pittsburgh is that a good move Matt in your eyes for the Steelers? Yeah I mean Aaron Rodgers is still Aaron Rodgers and you can maybe go draft a guy in the third or fourth round and get someone one of these other quarterbacks like maybe a Tyler Shuck they like him maybe a Howard, like he's kind of climbing up draft boards. Jalen Milrow is potentially still out there, he may go today, but look,

Steelers just got DK Metcalf, right? They also, they need a running back. George Pickens may be on a trade block, we'll see, but they have weapons now. Yeah, real quick, I just want to go down the line here before we take our first break here. Again, the triple option and the throwback show coming together here in Lambeau Field

as we wrap up round one and get ready for round two and three. Something that popped for you. I'll go down the line, Jerry. I'll start with you. Something that popped for you through the course of the draft, whether it was a moment, a winner, something that brought a smile to you, something that changed your perspective on one of the players

or one of the programs. Well, I love when guys tear up. So that got me early. But to be quite honest, the fact that we had action at the number two pick and there was that trade that early. I started wrapping myself up. Wow, Travis Hunter is going to be in London a lot with those Jaguars. They play in London three or four games.

So it's almost like, all right, he's going international early in his career. So that jumped out to me right away. We had that big of a move that early. Yeah. You know, and I think the TV networks too are going to be like, all right, he's going international early in his career. So that jumped out to me right away. We had that big of a move that early. Yeah, and I think the TV networks, too, are going to be like, oh, wait. This works. Let's see if we can get Jacksonville a little bit more here, because people, at least early on,

are going to want to watch to see what Travis Hunter does in Jacksonville. That's what got me. Every coach wants to coach energy. There's nothing worse than coaching a team or a player that hates his job. I mean, it's awful. You go out to practice him and then all of a sudden you're like, come on, man, let's

go. And to see his energy and enthusiasm as he sprinted, the first time I've seen that, he sprinted onto the field, onto the stage with Gadel. Tapping the Jag logo as he went down the hallway, I thought that was a really cool moment. Matty? I talked about it earlier. I love the raw emotion. I love the guys getting interviewed and the genuine tears. It just it makes me so

happy and their lives change forever. I thought a couple picks. I thought the tight ends was interesting going into this with Tyler Warren who we covered. Actually both these guys. Colston Loveland, sorry Packers, been going 10 to Chicago which some thought might be a little bit of a stretch but who's their head coach Ben Johnson. A lot of the Colson reminds a lot of Sam Laporta who's a phenomenal player for the Detroit Lions so I thought it was pretty interesting we had two tight ends go in the top 15 picks Tyler Warren went to the Indianapolis Colts who definitely needed someone and he's an absolute stud

I mean a Swiss Army Knife so loved the raw emotion around one we're gonna get a lot more of that today in round two. And tight ends getting some love in the first round. Yeah. Beast tight ends too, by the way. But for me, it'd have to be just the Philadelphia Eagles just freaking muscling the draft again. They win the Super Bowl, then they finagle Kansas City out of their 31st pick and go and get Jihad Campbell out of the University of Alabama. Probably one of the most versatile linebackers in this draft. He's an off the ball linebacker who can play inside. He can go stand up and rush on the end. They finagle the Kansas City's out of their pick after they just got whooped by them with defense. And now you let them go

and get your pick and bolster their defense. That's what Philly does, man. Howie Roseman is a freaking go-to GM a dog. So now Philly just adds a freaking beast of a linebacker to already stacked defense. So the Eagles with that pick man they're just they're playing chestnut checkers. Everyone else playing catch-up. Yeah one of the things I love is just the affirmation that the NFL is just so powerful and so dominant and perceptive and and they get it. They read the room really well. Like the creation of this is something amazing

from the old Radio City Music Hall days. Every other pro sports team should take. It's watching. It's watching what the NFL does and following their lead. They did something and they did something twice last night which kind of made me do it like a little go. Yeah. Yeah. Denver and Buffalo with Make-A-Wish Teenagers to come out and make the pick for the programs that they care so much about. And the audience embraced it. Yeah. The beautiful people here in Green Bay and Wisconsin,

you know, just said Denver, Buffalo proper. Well done. I want that. I want that player to be successful because those young men who are fighting for their lives right now came out and made some. NFL don't play no games, man. That shield don't play. They picked the right logo. That shield is a mug, I tell you that.

Although when the commissioner came out with the bike, right off the bat, I'm like, what is happening here? That's screen bay. I know it is. It took me about five seconds to be like, oh, got it. All right. You've seen a couple more coming down. They're like, shaking right in the back.

I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to ride a bike or something. Who thought the commissioner wasn't going to be able to make that first turn, by the way? I was like, he's going to go off the stage. I didn't know Little Wayne was a diehard Packer fan. Oh, yeah. Green and yellow, green and yellow, green and yellow. I think as we talk about all the time on our show,

football, it's all about the fans and the connection and the love and the passion. And obviously Green Bay has some of the best fans in the world. But that's what NFL, that's what they do. Connecting the fans and some of those stories are incredible. Plenty more to come on this edition of Draft House presented by our great partner, Nissan,

triple option throwback show. Coming together, we've got a special guest coming on next. of Draft House presented by our great partner, Nissan, Triple Option Throwback Show. Coming together, we've got a special guest coming on next. One of the greatest to ever play his position in college and in the pros, just recently retired, Patrick Peterson is going to join us live. Coach has got a bit of a story. I can't wait for you to see Patrick coming up next on the Draft House presented by Nissan. We're back in a quick break. Coming up next on The Draft House presented by Nissan. We're back in a quick break. Okay, flights on air Canada.

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Aft house here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Again, the throwbacks in the triple option just outside Lambeau Field. The draft house presented by Nissan. Time now for a very special guest, a former All-American at LSU, a round one pick, number five overall by Arizona. Three-time first team all-pro. Give it, I need more sound effects from you, Mark. An eight-time pro bowler. 2010 all-decade player from the NFL. Recently retired, soon-to-be Hall of Famer,

Patrick Peterson, everybody is here. That boy goaded. That boy goaded, man. Man, just a I'm like, go to it. Go to it, man. Man, just a legendary person, a legendary player. We both been battling since Bama LSU days. You know what I mean? 2011 draft class. We've been going at it, man.

Just much love, much respect for what you done on the field. But more importantly, who you are off the field, man. So we're blessed and appreciative to have you out here on the pod with us, brother. Man, I appreciate you guys as well for having me out here and feels good being retired right now. Hey, it's good on this side. No doubt about it.

You're gonna enjoy it. It's good on this side, man. Well, how are you keeping your days full now that you're done? Man, golfing is one. Yeah, he about to scratch golf for Coach. He looks like it. Almost. I'm a five handicap, so I golf try to golf every day. My wife has a Pilates studio so I'm kind of like the general

manager of that. Take my kids to school every morning. Oh yeah. Pick them up every day. I'm a chef as well at home so I try to cook dinner at least three nights out of the week. Sundays is the big dinner day but yeah just try to do normal

stuff now. What's your go-to dish? My kids love pasta so yes whatever pasta they like and pizza. Okay yeah okay. Hey man I just gotta toss this to coach man I know you got an interesting story about this man with Pat Peebles. I'm gonna tell the story. Breaking news. So I was on the pot on his podcast. Oh, yeah Yeah, I told the story and so we just wanted what year did you come out high school? Oh, wait Oh wait, so we just want a title at Florida and it was unfair what the talent we had I had him It was done. I put my best recruiter. He's from E high school down at Palm Beach area Yeah, and Doc holidays recruiting them and man Beach area. Yeah. And Doc Holliday's

recruiting him. And man the SEC you just don't know what's going on man. And I got him. He's got the most wonderful family. I mean hugging crying. And I actually hit his computer you know just he was sitting by that desk. I'll never forget this. And I look over and I nudge something and on your screen comes a gator. And I look at Doc and I said, we're good. I go, we're good. So we drive home and so we're like a couple days from signing a date and I get crickets, man. I call him up, it's quiet.

I can't get ahold of him, I call Doc. Doc says, we're good, we're good. I said, he's the best player in the country. Doc, are we good call doc doc says we're good. We're good. I said he's the best player in the country Doc are we good? He said we're good Next I know I we don't get a hold of him and also I see We're live streaming if I remember right. Yeah, I think of Georgia LSU, Florida Probably Bama hat and I'm looking at doc. I'm looking at doc and he reaches over and grabs the LSU. I was like and I'm looking at Doc, I'm looking at Doc, and he reaches over and grabs the LSU.

I was like, no! Oh! The worst is we had to play against his butt for three years, and so he didn't have very good stats against Ford, you know why? No, I didn't. You know why? We didn't throw at him.

We played 10 on 10. You stood over there. Hey, I know what happened. That was a little bit of that pre-NIL. They went over there and dropped that little Duffy off. So what happened? What happened? They dropped that Duffy off. I'll just play. I'll just play.

No, it was... Yeah, I was very close to going to Florida. And they had a loaded team. You guys had tons of talent all over the place. But I felt like LSU was the better opportunity for me because their whole roster was leaving. So if I was going to Florida. We had Joe Hayden.

Joe Hayden. Yeah, not that I was afraid of competition, but Joe Hayden was in his sophomore year. You guys just got Janoris Jenkins. Ahmad Black was, you guys just, he came in as a corner, but you guys transferred him back to safety. So it was much, it was an easier route for me to go to LSU and win a Jim Thorpe. Be the first to win a Jim Thorpe, you know, create DBU. So I felt like the path was easier for me to go to LSU.

Number seven legendary. Hey, do you remember? I remember, I mean, there's so many things you remember. You're like, I remember cause we're playing in that damn stadium down at LSU. I'm looking at it cause I'm on the sideline, obviously. Patrick's right there, and I'd be looking at him going, come on, man. All the time, yeah.

All the time. What happened? Come on, man. The most memorable one, though, was when was your last year in Florida? Was it 11, 10? So yeah, that was the year we beat you guys with the flip over.

Terrible. Yeah. Terrible. And I came over, I was like, man, Coach, man, because I knew that was my last year anyway. I was like, man, Coach, I'll never forget the the flip over. Terrible. Terrible. And I came up, it's like, man, coach, man, because I knew that was my last year anyway. I was like, man, coach,

I'll never forget all the good times we had when you're coming down there and visit me at the house coming to my uh to my high school game. Me giving you a doctor uh the Gator Chop. Oh, those were some fun times. You're breaking his heart right

down. Yeah. I'm cheering up for you. It's your hall of favor, man. He's stuck. Let him tell that he didn't coach that 2010 team. Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly he wasn't the coach of the 2010 Gators, allegedly. He was there though. I know because we whooped him too. But we won against each other. No, two on one, but he said the 2010 game doesn't count for whatever reason. Oh, OK. I have no idea. Pat, I would, as one of the all-time greats, I would love to get your perspective on just Travis Hunter. I'm sure you've talked about it. But just the two ways.

We kind of talked about it yesterday, just as we all know, everything that goes in with preparation on a week, especially DB. I think DB, I think outside of quarterback, I think both of those are the toughest positions to play in sports as far as you being on an island and all that kind of stuff. Can he do it both ways and where do you see that at the next level with him?

I believe he can do it at both ways at the NFL level. He's a special talent. I know Coach has seen a bunch of talent in his coaching career. I don't know if Coach has seen many players like him. I mean, this guy can literally do it all. And what he was able to do at the college level, I know a lot of guys were like, oh, he's playing against kids and this, that and the other, but he may not be asked to do,

have that type of workload at the NFL level, but he is superb on both sides of the ball. So whatever position he plays 100%, I guarantee he's gonna have a role on the opposite side of the ball. So whatever position he plays 100%, I guarantee he's going to have a role on the opposite side of the ball. You know what I mean? And I don't want to say that he can't do it, because we've never seen it.

But he did it at a high level at the college level. It's going to be interesting to see if he can do it. It's going to be hard. It is going to be hard. I think Cam Newton said on his podcast, can you imagine going up and practice every day against Tyreek Hill or going up against Tyreek and then Jalen Ramsey coming, like every snap.

But when we say your role, I've never seen, I've seen people try to play a defensive player in a role in offense and that serves to purpose, a decoy and then use them. Is there any chance chance I heard a comment that they're gonna do that? He's gonna be an offensive player and then play a little bit defense and learn the defense.

I've never heard that before. I've heard the opposite. I've heard full-time defense and they go over and play some offense. That's gonna be the first time I've ever heard of that. Have you ever heard that before? No, I haven't. It's gonna be interesting.

You remember with the Patriots, was it Troy Brown? Yeah, Troy Brown. Troy Brown did a little bit. He was a nickel back. Yeah, that's right. That's what I was going to say. Like which one do you think would be best? Do you think it would be a full time DB like play 20 to 30 plays on offense or a full time wide receiver and then just be kind of like the nickel dying back, you know, well, because the NFL, they play a lot of nickel.

So it's like, what do you think's the best? Honestly, he got very, very lucky because most top five teams don't have a secure quarterback situation. So the Jaguars traded up, I mean, they don't, I'm not saying that Trevor is, you know, a top 10 quarterback, but he's a quarterback. a top 10 quarterback but he's a yeah he's a quarterback is capable of winning so he got lucky in that in that aspect so now he can play receiver yes because I was thinking he's

gonna be top five maybe going to Cleveland or somewhere like that now he can start on the defensive side of the ball right and then get sprinkled in on the offensive side of the ball so now with him being with Jacksonville I could see him having a heavier role on the offensive side of the ball. So now with him being with Jacksonville, I could see him having a heavier role on the offensive side of the ball and playing nickel back on the defensive side of the ball, being in the money downs and third down situation, third down it goes, taking the number one receiver out

and things like that. What memories do you have from your draft night? What comes back to you being here at the draft? Man, being in New York Radio City Hall with Mark, you know, Cam, A.J. Green, all those guys. Legendary. What a class. What a class.

Oh my God. It was unbelievable. But I remember the moment, the day of the draft, you know, having my suit laid out and the anxiety of not knowing where the heck you're going to be playing. You know, for the most part, we had control of where we wanted to play. And for the first time, we had no idea. So you've been hitting all type of speculations of Houston had the possibility of being the number one pick up until the draft. We all knew Cam was gonna be number one.

But then you just, you know, all right, I can be a Denver Bronco, I can be a Cincinnati Bengal. You know, so it was just, it was a bunch of anxiety and nervousness going through my body. But once I got, you know, with the guys, and we had that big picture with all of us there, that's when everything started to calm down. It's like, I'm back in my element around the guys, everybody's in a good place, let's see what happens.

You look over your right shoulder and you see one of the most historic buildings in all of athletics here The United States. What are some of your memories of Lambeau? Oh, man. I haven't won many games in that state But uh, I do have a really good memory it was in the preseason my second year My second year in the NFL. I got interception off Aaron Rodgers, but it was a lollipop. He literally threw it right to me. But that's probably the only good memory that I have in Lambeau Stadium. And what's in store for you tonight in your affiliation with

Arizona? I am announcing I am announcing the second pick the 47th pick in the second round for the Arizona Cardinals. Jerry wanted to get Giants. You should just go rogue and pick who you want, Patrick. That's what I would say. I got asked a few years ago to announce the Giants second round pick.

I didn't get to do it. But I thought in my head, what would happen to me if I got up and just said who I think they should do? Do I get banned from any NFL, anything of all time? Like, do I need to watch my bat? What happened? Did they put me in jail? I think you know that answer, Jerry.

What happens to me? I think you get banned. Because every fan thinks they can make a pick. I tell you, Clint Matthews went off script last night. Yeah, he did. He did. And Pat McAvee won year. Yes.

Oh, it's a cult. Do you have a script? Are you just going to just wing it? Or just going to wing it? Just going to do it? Just going to wing it. Brides at Red Sea. Who, you still follow like Arizona and who they draft and all that?

Now that I'm on this side of the world right now, I will start paying more closer attention to it. Yeah. Man, it's just retirement. Welcome to the good side. You pick who you want, Patrick. You take who you think is right for the job. He's earned that right.

You earned that right. So you never thought about coaching? Nah, coach. No. No. To hard no. Yeah. Only thing I want to do in football,

if I was to get into a football role, is in the front office. Yeah. I feel like I would want to put my mind and really put my hands on a team. I feel like the coaching is too stressful. I played football long enough. I've been away from my family long enough. I feel like I can be able to control my own work schedule.

I still got a visual, man, of as good as he was on defense. I was a special teams coordinator. Your butt went back there to catch those punts, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, I was a little Travis Hunter before Travis Hunter. Yeah You're a playoff. I did No, not in college just in high school. Oh, yeah I can only imagine you coaching up DVS and it's like but like why can't you execute this because you could do it that way

But not everyone that would probably be a little frustrating. I understand why you can't you execute this? Because you could do it that way, but not everyone could do it the way you do. That would probably be a little frustrating. I just don't understand why you can't do this. So while you're a Hall of Fame player. I mean, because that's how I am now with my girls in the house, like, why we just can't listen? I was a good listener. That's all I did all my life. Just listen.

But my wife's like, they're 10 and 5. They're different. I was like, I got it. Green Bay, the good news is you don't have to worry about Patrick Peterson anymore. He is off, he is retired. Congratulations on a wonderful off-career. Thank you very much.

And enjoy it tonight, man. That's a really cool honor. Thank you. Something really special. And make sure you have the dinner planned for the kids later tonight since you're not there. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I cooked pasta last night.

So it's all good. Cacio e pepe, a little cacio e pepe. I'm hungry now. It's called mac and cheese, I believe. Mac and cheese. Patrick, so congratulations on everything. Thanks so much for joining us. One of the best to ever do it, man.

One of the best to ever do it. Patrick Peterson, everybody. Plenty more coming your way from the Draft House presented by Nissan from Green Bay. Come up, quick little break, and we're going to talk about round two and round three coming your way later tonight. way later tonight. Mark Ingram, I love you so much.

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I like it. I feel like we're like week nine in the season right now. Is this acting weather, Jerry? No, because if this were acting, we'd actually be in shorts and t-shirts. Because every time you need it to be cold, it's hot. And every time you need to be hot, it's cold. You're always acting opposite what the real weather is. Jerry is shaking right now.

What's the coldest you've ever been on set? Coldest you've ever been on set? Coldest? We had a fake summer fight scene once, and it was 18 degrees in New York and it was supposed to be middle of the summer it's shorter yeah that was rough that was rough all right we are back live from Green Bay Wisconsin course you see beautiful Lambeau field right behind us here the triple option throwbacks presented by Nissan here from the draft house it's in in the mid forties right now. The feels like weather

according to Mark is thirties. The feel is cold. Yeah, this kind of feels like we're Columbus in November, Ann Arbor in November. Uh it is time now for cool picks presented by Wendy's. Again, find your cool picks. Again, find your new favorite frosty flavor. Wow, they put three F words in a row. That is tough. I pulled that off. Find your new favorite frosty flavor today. Favorite frosty flavor. Favorite frosty flavor today. Again, you got your brownie batter. You got your strawberry swirl. You got

your caramel swirl. Alright, so we're gonna talk right now about some interesting talents that are still out there. Man, there's a lot of great talents out there. Again, tonight, round two and round three. Mark, again, I'm gonna start with you so I don't offend you. I don't wanna get on your bad side. One of the themes of this draft coming in was that it was thin at quarterback,

but deep at running back. Two running backs taken in the first round, both of them legit, legit guys, like day one starting guys. There's a flood of talent still sitting out there. Big shout out to the running backs, man. Ashton Gentey, number six. Amari and Hampton going to the Chargers.

Two first round backs. We love the backs going into the first round. But there's gonna be some teams that get some very high quality, productive, experienced backs here in the next two or three rounds, man. And one I'm looking forward to in particular is Quin-Shawn Judkins, running back for the Ohio State University. You're talking about a back who has been productive in the SEC and the Big Ten. And one I'm looking forward to in particular is Quinshawn Judkins running back for the Ohio State University

You're talking about a back who has been productive in the SEC and the Big Ten He's been over a thousand yards for three straight seasons over 14 touchdowns three straight seasons. Hold on Mark the scintillating video of coach over here Coach is ready for his pick. He's cleaning the transitions. He's cleaning the transitions. Yeah, but yeah, I'm talking about your boy Quish. You feel me? Coach ain't listening to you. No, I got the other back. So it's like another day on Big New. Right? Yeah. Coach over here. Coach over here. Talking coach. Coach over here. Coach

over here. Talk to you coach. Oh god. That's good. Come on Mark. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta make sure the transition is done. Worrying about my they're always a focal point. That's the talk of the segment now. Yeah.

Coach's transitions. You got some soft transitions going on too as well. Those transitions are those prescriptions? You know, these just a little bit of that. You heard me. You know what I'm talking about? Gotta stay clean. You know what I mean? But uh Oh my god. Yeah. So, Quishon Juck is man. So, yeah. And is uh for everybody out there, this is what we get every single week

on the road in the fall. This is the greatest. So, his his running mate in Columbus is your focus. Yeah, Trevion Henderson came back for his senior year and whoever advises him did the right thing. Yeah. And that's how I once again, the negatives of NIL Trevion. I don't know what he made. He probably made a lot of money to come back with whoever advised him. That was correct advice. I thought, Mark, I thought he played his way into the first round.

His junior year, he was the first hit go down type player that was his reputation. Great speed. You see how I listen when I clean my transitions. I like that. Those transitions too. Learn from me, learn from me. But Trevion, I'm surprised he did not go in the first round. Yeah. I thought he's a first round talent.

He worked his way, in my opinion, to the first round. He was not a first rounder his junior year. And so I think he'll go within the first three, four picks of the second round. And he's great out of the backfield, very good hands, his explosiveness, he's the deal. You think he's next up. You think he's the first back off the board today.

You know what, whatever the training they did with him, I know I has stayed at new running back coach, but he became a post-contact Runner which he was not well, that's something that he had to work on so when you come back for another year, you know, you have to improve in certain areas and he improved significantly and Running between the tackles and getting running behind his pads. Remember he was a first he'd go down. Yeah, he'd get tackled He didn't get tackled like he'd rip through tackles So, you know another thing to his maturity was tested last season, right? We're gonna bring in a tailback to split carries with you and he took that one

for the team and said you know what the higher goal is winning the national title. I never heard a bit of attitude from him. Yeah in the summer camp when I was there I saw him he was like we're here to win a title, man. He wants 20 carries a game, you got it. If I'm the guy, you got it. That tells me a lot about Trayvon. That's what you want in a player though, a player who's not afraid to compete. And Quincy John Jenkins being there made him better.

They both made each other better. And also took some wear and tear off their bodies as well. Not as many hits, not as many carries. It's very similar to what, I mean, Emeka Abouka last night got drafted first round. But we talked about Jeremiah Smith took all the headlines. Abouka came back to school, kind of just did his role, and he was a first round draft pick, too.

So Ohio State, what, four first round picks last night? So all you young guys out there. And they're going to have more today with those running guys. So just tell them all the young guys out there that are just leaving and going with the wind. Control what you can control. Your attitude, your preparation, how you work, how you're a teammate, do things the right way,

and you will reap what you sow. Which you've seen with a Mecca Egg Booker, and you will see today with Trey Manchin and Quijnard. And again, this is cool picks presented by Wendy's, and we have these three swirl Frosties out here. Brownie Batter! Mark is a Brownie Batter guy in the middle. All right, coach, you are a what?

I know it's frosty weather right now. I've gone back and forth but caramel Caramel no way. Okay. Alright, those are your two picks Matt. I'm gonna end with you but chair I want to go with you and We talked yesterday Cleveland had the ability to be one of the big winners of the draft They made a big move coach talked about it earlier Their draft is far far from done and today's gonna be really fascinating about the book with the Browns yeah I love the early action

like I said you know I thought it was a cool trade yes to get out of the first round sort of trade brought you by Wendy's good you like how I did that right but uh you know obviously the defense now is set enough to be good but I think the run on wide receivers is gonna continue to come and I think you got to grab them at one of these two second round picks. There's a ton of great wide receivers out there. Yeah, I'm looking at Luther Byrne out in Missouri. I think that Jerry Judy had a really good year. Jameis got him the ball.

And we talked a lot about Ohio. And my wife's from Cleveland, so I'm talking. A lot of my friends out there, their kids are a little upset that Travis Hunter wasn't there. They already wanted to buy the jersey. But I think they could set up to really bolster the offense now with these two second round picks. Again, two of the first four picks in the second round belong to the Browns, and they have two first rounders next year that they

can play with as well. And Strawberry Frosty Swirl. Strawberry. I got to chalk one up for Strawberry. The Strawberry dish, Matt, I'm not gonna lie. They're all great. Strawberry never fails. They're all great. Matt, before we get to your we get to your player, what's your cool pick? Frosty swirl. Honestly, I was I was leaning heavily towards caramel before because I'm a big caramel guy But man that brownie batter was terrible. That brownie batter! Okay, all right, so the one guy that everybody was talking about yesterday, and they're talking about even more today is Shador Sanders. Yeah I mean it was he was the talk of the first round where he was gonna go or where he

was gonna fall to and I just talked about a little earlier the Steelers passed out at 21 then we saw the Giants trade back in to get Jackson Dart who clearly was their guy in this draft and I would be shocked if Cleveland doesn't take him with the first pick of the second round tonight. I would be shocked but it's it's just interesting you know it's interesting you know there there was so much in coaching you've been a part of this the evaluation process and there's so many narratives being thrown around and this and that and the kid kind of took a beating throughout this process probably because his name and probably

because of all of the attention that Colorado received the last couple of years. I'm rooting for him. I think he's a really, really good football player. And I would say this. I think there's less pressure on him now. There's a big difference between being a first round draft pick and a second round and so on and so forth at that position.

There's less pressure on him wherever he goes to go beat the guy right away because one, he's not making first round money. And in a way, it might be the greatest blessing that ever happens to Chidora. He's a hell of a player. He's going to go work and he's going to do all that. But I'm interested to see where he goes. My gut is it's going to feel like it has to be Cleveland because Pittsburgh doesn't have a pick.

So we'll see what they do. Is there a real chip on the shoulder? I know we talk like media talks about is. Is there a real chip on the shoulder thing? I know we talk like media talks about is gonna have a real chip on the shoulder but from a place perspective now you're right the first round's over so that whole thing is out you could forget about that move past it if he goes in the second round or later is that a real thing because I can't imagine he's gonna work extra hard he was gonna work hard no matter what right? You know I want to ask your question yeah Matt we talked about Green Bay they kind of have the secret sauce on how to develop quarterbacks here they take Aaron Rodgers learns from

one of the greatest of all time Brett Farr they take love he learns from Aaron Rodgers how many quarterbacks I saw a stat yesterday quarterbacks that are forced to go play as a rookie, it doesn't end well a lot of times. The quarterbacks that have these great careers, Tom Brady, they learn the difference between big boy ball and college ball. Maybe it is a blessing.

Shidoro backs up someone for a couple years. If that was my son, that's where I would want him to go. I'd want him to go learn the game, not be put in harm's way and just get beat to death and then on some bad team. There's a couple players, like even Jaden Daniels last year. I don't know if we thought Jaden Daniels could go out and be what he was.

I mean, he was Daner, MVP of the league. That kid is special. But he is transcendent talent with his ability to run. And he had Cliff Kingsbury, who knew exactly what to do with him. And so we saw that talent. And he made guys around him better. I mean, that Terry McLaurin.

But it's not like the commanders have a ton of weapons on the outside. Shador needs a type of quarterback. He needs a good team around him. He needs really good football players. He needs to learn. He needs a great offensive coordinator a great play caller I do worry Cleveland like you just talked about it Jerry

Judy's their guy and a lot of that was Jamis Winston just giving him the rock and slinging it. 300 yard receiving game. You look at the weapons they have or the lack thereof so but like Joe Flacco is there maybe it's a perfect guy to learn from for a year maybe two that's why I love Jackson Dart he's going to New York to back up Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston. Like you don't, you're not thrust into the limelight in New York right away. So, but I'm with you coach. It's, it's a tough transition and if you're, I just feel like it was, it's, it's gonna be a blessing for him to kind of have that first round, all of this stuff, all the pressure off of him and go out there and just go work. Because we know he will, He's going to work.

And I think he's going to end up being a good player. Let's talk about Jay Daniels real quick. So the one thing when you think about he was closest to the NFL in the SEC. So he was facing a lot of NFL players all season long. Jackson and LSU. Chador is not well, Chador is not faced NFL talent. Yeah. Well, in the current thing, we're seeing with players like Jay and Daniel is they played six years. So they had extra years of experience. Bo Nicks, six years. Michael Pennings, six

years. So that's experience and time on task. And there is no better learning lesson than experience. And so you got these 24, 25 year old quarterbacks who are mature, kind of young men, kind of had a lot of experience and they're going into the league and being successful right away. But back to what Jerry said, like with that chip on your shoulder, Shadur has always had this underdog mentality. I've seen something like he posted the other day, he was like, you know, I've always been looked over. I was a three-star quarterback.

I went to Jackson State. I go to Colorado. So he's always had this underdog mentality and I think that's going to continue to carry him. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think it's going to continue to carry him you know I mean well yeah I think it's gonna continue to carry him because you do when you when you have a chip on your shoulder it's not just like okay like I have a chip on my shoulder it's no like the days where you don't feel like doing

it in the days you don't feel good you remember how you felt the first round with your whole family with you you remember how that felt and it makes you go harder so that chip does carry I was one of those players that played with a chip on my shoulder. You know what I mean? And I think that does carry. I think it serves as a great motivating factor, especially when you go through something

like he did yesterday. A little humble pie. Just a little humble pie. He was great motivation. He was great. He posted that video last night. I thought he was great. He was like, it wasn't what we expected.

It is what it is. I'll be ready when my name's called and we'll still be happy still be happy It's gonna be called tonight. It is going to be called to the Sanders will be drafted today. Yeah I think he's going 33rd first pick. Let me throw out a couple other names here We talked about this run on running backs Caleb Johnson I would tail back 6124 1500 yards and 21 touchdowns last year. That is a stud. Our guy, Dylan Sampson, Scadaboo, Cam Scadaboo still sitting out there. Our run on wide receivers. There's two from TCU and I'm a little close to the TCU program right now, but Jack Besh, 1,000 yards, senior bowl MVP. Savion Williams, really versatile, tall playmaker,

can do a ton of stuff for them. He's gonna be interesting. A sleeper wide receiver, Isaiah Bond. Yes, another one, another one for sure. Defense, one quick name. A guy we all like, and I think if your team selects Jack Sawyer, you are very happy. Yep.

You are secure and you are upbeat. Good football player. We got a good guy who's a good player and is great in the locker room. Another good prospect, Nick Emanwory, the safety out of South Carolina. A dog. Hey, talk about Kam Chancellor. He's got size like that of the big old dude. I want to throw one position out here. It's not a sexy position, but to me it's fascinating. Center. You get the right center. You are locked and loaded for 10, 12, 15 years. You get the right guy and the best centers are still out there. Jared Wilson from UGA, from Georgia, only a one year starter.

Seth McLaughlin, remember, played at Alabama, Ohio State, had the Achilles injury. That is a sleeper position, Stoner. Who touches the ball more than the freaking center? Nobody. Other than the quarterback. Of course, of course. Of course, of course. Yeah, I'm fascinated by that. He might get more snaps if you have a Wildcat QB, too.

There's nothing like a QB center relationship. I know, you up in there, nice and personal. Get in the personal space. Green eight! There's nothing better than a sweaty ass. Oh my gosh! You're welcome Green Bay. You're welcome.

Hey man. Throwbacks the triple option. This is what we bring you live. I had a great story but we go to break. You know what? We can go. We'll sit on the break for a little bit. That's my motto.

That's the new motto. Nothing better than a sweaty ass. I'm telling you what man. There is nothing worse than just getting the gift. I'm gonna be careful what I say here because I know Mark's gonna be ripping me. Like, I was in Houston in 110 degree weather in August in training camp, and the centers had to switch out

the shorts of their pants three times during practice because you get up in there and it's just dripping on your hand. Oh my gosh. No, and it drips on you, the ball and all that kind of stuff, man. I'll tell you what, Alex Parsons, I'll never forget, Alex Parsons was my center in Oakland. I was the backup, so he was number two. So when we go in, he had to carry an extra pair of pants on the sidelines. No, because he was a sweater. I told him. I was like, are you guys enjoying the story,

Green Bay? You'll get this nowhere. Guys green bay? This is the stuff that happens, you know Hey, but by the way that we grab that and then we hand it off By the way, you touch the same ball Actually, oh man, once again the drop the same ball. I do. more about the NFL draft coming away. It is the throwbacks, it is the triple auction. Coming together to talk about topics we didn't really have in our rundown. We're gonna take a quick break and Matt's gonna tell us some more gross things during the break. Dead ass.

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What fish are we catching when we ice fish? Walleye. We got some walleye, some perch. And I don't know any, I don't know what else. Do you fry it? Of course you fry it. We fry it, we grill it. That's what we do.

We pan sear it. Saute it. We all have ways. You're not pan se grill it. That's what we do. We pan sear it. Saute it. We all the ways. You're not pan searing a perch. I don't know. We go get flavors. Hey, I discovered walleye a few years ago. It's good, man. Copper walleye hits. Welcome back to the Draft House presented by Nissan. Again, we are live from Green Bay, Wisconsin. Rob, Jerry, Urban, Matt, and Mark back here with you. Round two and round three from the NFL Draft coming away live a little bit later tonight. Coach, I'm curious about the interactions

that you have had with the NFL in your time as a head coach, whether it was at Utah or Florida, maybe even Bowling Green and obviously Ohio State, the conversations that would come into you and how you would manage them about your players. Yeah, you develop relationships with coaches and GMs over the years and assistant coaches and scouts

and you'd earn a lot of respect and get to know them. And so I had a really tough situation happen one time. I was at the University of Florida and I had a team full of draft picks and the scout would come in and I all just kind of felt you dealt with him honestly, you know. And they're telling me about this guy, I said, yeah, you're a little stiff.

He's, you know, he's got this issue and this issue. And I'm being real honest with him. And the player fell out of the first round, or, you know. And the family comes in my office and said, I was told by the scout or I was told by someone that. You said it. I said that and they were pissed off at me.

Hell yeah. I played for you coach. I gave you everything, how can you do that? I'm looking at this player and I got so angry that from that point forward of my career I extracted my coaching staff and I never, when a scout that I didn't know came in and said tell me about Mark Angraham. He's a great player. I love that dude. He gave me everything he had. I'd take him. Coach

angry with yourself and how you handle the situation? No, angry with the scout. Broke the trust bonds. And as a head coach, I'm obligated, you guys, I'm not obligated to the Packers, the Bills, the Giants. I would've been mad at you too, Coach. I'm out of it, really, I'm sorry. So from that point forward, I would instruct my staff every year, you do not, that's none of their bit, let them go figure it out.

Now is that the right way to do business? Your loyalty is with your players. Yes. And so from that point forward, now Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlund who come in, who have a good relationship with, they'd asked me that, I'd wait for them to ask me the question. Then I'd also say, this is it. Yeah.

Because I have an obligation also to be honest too. Yeah. I think- That's a really interesting dilemma that you deal with. On the flip side, maybe you might have some conversations with some scouts who are like, why are you putting this guy up so high on the board? He's not top 10 material.

He needs another year in college. And a lot of kids will read these draft boards and get excited about, hey, maybe I do need a jump. And when you know maybe deep in your heart of hearts, another year would really serve a better purpose. That's a tough one. I want to tell this story too that I had, you know, the agents, they're like in any walks of life,

you have really great agents, and you have some that aren't so great, they're self-serving. And I had a player at one time come in and say, I'm leaving after my junior year, and I said, you're not ready, you're not leaving. And of course, there's that third uncle sitting there, oh, he's ready, he's ready.

And then I had the guy says, my agent told me he can get me up into the second round and I said listen you're a free agent or you're a late round pick here I'm gonna put the general manager the of the Steelers I used to call him or Rick Spielman and if Rick Spielman said he should leave then I tell him but if Rick Spielman said no he needs one then I'd tell him. But if Rick Spielman said, no, he needs one more year, I'd tell him as well, but then the player would hear from some agent or someone saying, I can get you into the second round.

There's not an agent that exists that can get a player. The agent can't get you nowhere. You don't get to the player in the second round, the player, by playing. The agent can't get you improved draft style. It's a thing. You as a player has to go out there and perform test Interview and that can up your draft stock. This is not an indictment on agents. It's just the reality sometimes

They're like, what are you talking about? It's the same thing with the transfer portal too, right? I mean just the They have all of this so many people in your ear saying you go here go here We're seeing that the grass is not always greener. 2020 road is not equipped to make the major life decisions. That's why they need their father. They need a coach, someone that has their best interest at heart. And also how NIL has changed this conversation as well,

because now these kids are getting paid to stick around for another year at a good price point. And guess what? I can mature, I can become a better player for the NFL with that extra year in college and still be getting taken care of. We've got about another 10 minutes left here from the draft house presented by Nissan,

the throwbacks, the triple option guys here with you. Time now, let's hand it over to Jerry. We got some fan questions out there. Yes. I handpicked these guys. Thousands of questions. I picked these. Turtle, turtle, proctor, proctor. Gotta pick a character, Mark. Gotta pick a character. All right, this is from Dan in Houston and I don't know how we feel about this. I know this year's draft isn't over, but I'm already looking ahead to next year. Maybe his team didn't get what they did because the Texans traded out and they're out.

Any names start familiarizing myself now for 2026. Arch Manning, everybody, Arch Manning. Well, Houston doesn't need a quarterback. No, but just, I don't even think for Houston, just maybe in general. But right now, there's already those conversations about those programs out there saying, maybe we hold off on the QB this year

because it's not a quote unquote great QB stock. And Matt, next year they're already talking about some of the great quarterbacks that could become available. Well, I'm looking it up right now because in a couple months here, we're about to be going back to work. That's right, we're starting work early. The quarterback class next year is loaded, I think.

Because you have, obviously, a potentially arch. He hasn't played a lot of football, so we'll see. Nussmeier out of LSU. You have Drew Aller. Maybe he's the talent. You got Arizona State, Levitt. Coach, you're so bad. Kevin Jennings at SMU. I mean it's a very very very deep class. Carson Beck?

What coach? I'm still thinking about Shraddor Sanders. I'm not worried about him. Is that class really that much better? You know who's a star? Yeah. Caleb Downs. Yeah. Yeah. Ohio State safety. He can be a top five pick next year All right. I got another one Might be a this might be a selfish one from the Green Bay fans here, but Terry from Green Bay Could you envision Green Bay or another cold weather city getting a Super Bowl? We saw it in New York I kind of want it to happen. Don't you I think that's do they have enough race? Man, no offense. They have never happening, right? It's not gonna happen. They don't have enough accommodations

I don't think I think the last cold weather city was what Minnesota, but that was just out No, they're saying outdoor game as well. That was not good. I don't think the New York game No, the Minnesota even though it was in a dome, right? It was tough for all the other activities It was freezing. They would never have an outdoor game. I just can't imagine they're ever going to have an outdoor game in February. It'd be kind of cool. You know what? I'm going to take the next fan question because I am curious about this too.

I do love Green Bay, by the way. Yes. Absolutely. You know. No doubt. And what's better than Green Bay in February? Am I right? Do you guys think any... What is it like now

when these young players are getting drafted, coming to the team? A lot of them are coming into the situation already pretty well off financially. And they obviously are going to, that position's going to change. She's going to make NFL money. Is that going to be different at all? You think like young kid walking in, just got drafted,

and you already made some good money? Have a couple millions? Yeah. already have a couple of millions. You have a couple of millions already. It's gonna be hard to do the rookie stay rook. It's like rook. Yeah I can't relate but I would I'd be a rookie no matter what it's all about getting the respect of your teammates and those guys bets they don't give two shits. No one's gonna feel bad about making you pick up the bill at dinner now. You can't come in and thinking you're all hot You have to come in and work work and earn the respect no matter what position you are You're gonna have to pick up the pads you're gonna have to do some rookie stuff do it and everyone before you had to do it

So what makes you better than everyone else that come before you so just be a good rookie be respectful Don't be talking shit. Good. So here. I a good rookie. So here I want to ask you guys this. So Charlie Strong, my dear friend, was my co-assistant head coach. When I first got hired at Florida, he said, these kids in Florida and the South are different. This is their way to go eat. I said, what do you mean? He said, because we're at Notre Dame and usually you get, you know, a little, from a high end school and all that. You're down south and some of these places It's the only said coach you go down to Okeechobee and the walk down there. Yeah, they're trying to eat Yeah, you're gonna see you're gonna see and I'll never forget man. I was exposed to

This is their way out. Yeah. Yeah, this is their way and when you coach a player that's hungry Nothing like it. Yeah, or a team that's hungry. Yeah, this is their way and when you coach a player that's hungry Nothing like it or team that's hungry. Yeah, my question is Shador made four point seven mil last year is what I heard. Do you lose your hunger? Here you guys made a lot of money. I mean he's getting a new he's getting a new fuel up under him right now Do you see players lose their hunger when they get paid though? Some people do that's why you have to get the right player That's why the character you talked about the question that you ask about players. How do they feel about money? How is their support system around them because some players love the game so much where the money is just part of it, right? And some people only do it for the money and the player you want is the player who loves the game so much day in day out

Injury, no injury, competition, competition, first drink, second drink, they're gonna give you everything they got because they want to be the best player they could possibly be. Did you witness players lose their hunger? Of course, of course. Some people have that hunger as a rookie, then they get the second contract, and they get complacent.

And they don't perform the same way they did to get the deal. But then you have other people who continue to press the envelope, Patrick Peterson. He was the fifth pick. He made a lot of money. He was never content with the money. He wanted to be the greatest player to ever play the game at the quarterback position and he played 13 years all decade and he'll be a Hall of Famer. So you have to know the character, the family, and what drives this player. So college coaches used to say the players enter their junior year,

that's their contract year in college. They're entering their contract. Contract year now is going into college. You know, I would often get asked on the acting level for advice for some younger people, and you can't really relate anything to football because you're not putting bodily harm at risk, but I would always say,

Unless you do your own stunts. Well, I would always say, would you wanna do this if it didn't pay well? It just was like, unless you do your own stunts. Well, I would always say, would you wanna do this if it didn't pay well? Like, if it just was like, hey, you're gonna make a living wage, is this still what you would do? And I know football again is different because you're literally risking,

but I feel like there's a lot of guys out there that would still say, yeah, I wanna strap it up and play. It's a kid's game, man. You get to do this, you get to play, and you get to do it for a living. And like, yes, you make good money, yes, you do have the chance to set your family up for a good future, but at the same time, what does it mean to you?

When I went out there to tote the rock, I wanted to be the best running back in the league. I wanted to prove that I was one of the best ever to carry the rock. That was my motivation. That was why I grinded through surgeries, through sharing back fields, through ups and downs. I had it in my mind. I wanted to be the best player to ever touch the football now that's high you know high things to

think of yourself but that's what drove me that's what drove me all right let's see I think we got one more all right it's Dylan from Columbus said for urban truly how involved is the head coach in the draft process the relationship with the GM how much weight does your voice carry in terms of who gets selected? Obviously I was only exposed one time, I was very involved. Depends on who the head coach is.

It depends who the GM. And the owner. Is the power structure of the organism, the hierarchy. A lot of times it's owner, GM, coaching staff, if it's the same level then, so it's dependent. That's of the 32 teams. It's all very well. Not you know I'm a big basketball and not to make a basketball reference but we saw the Nuggets GM and coach both get fired because they just couldn't figure

it out. Get right together so you can really see that dynamic is probably I know Sean Payton had to say you know Bill Belichick has to say you know Andy Reid has to say depends on who your head coach is right. That's all we got from the fans. Good question, Green Bay. Way to lobby for the Super Bowl to be played here. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm in favor of it.

I'm in favor. All right, so coming into our two days here with the triple option and the throwbacks and the draft house presented by Nissan, Mark and Matt had been to Green Bay. They had played in Lambeau Field behind us. The three of us were newbies. So for the three of us, and Jerry, I'll start with you.

The takeaway of what Green Bay is and was for us over these last 48 hours. I mean, for me, I'm a big moments guy, right? That's what I look for when I'm watching a movie or a show. And what I love about sports is the moment and the story. And I thought the moment last night with Golden and that Green Bay pick, I thought that is a moment we will replay for drafts to come when we talk about what is one of the best. When we're doing

a top 10 list 10 years from now, cool draft moments. That is going to be easily in the top three if not number one. That's an awesome draft moment. So props to the Green Bay fans. It's a great place to have a draft. You know, AJ Hawks, a dear friend and Colin Coward, I just did a show before and Green Bay has this reputation of being incredibly friendly people. They come out, they support their team, a very unique the way they own their team. Yes. I am blown away at the people of Green Bay from what we're at the restaurant we went to last night. These people here. Yep. You guys are unique man. It's a great place. Yeah that is not a lie

right. We're not glossing things over. We knew. The reputation fits. Yeah, we knew how great the Midwest was. We knew how great Wisconsin and Green Bay was, but to see it and experience it, hear it and feel it firsthand, different. You guys are different and we appreciate you.

Yeah, you guys have been fantastic hosts. It's raining, it's cold, you don't care. We're here to talk football, we're in Titletown, man. We got cheese curds, we got cold beer, and we've got other things that are fried, and we've got great NFL history here. And we've got Matt Liner telling you wonderful stories that will haunt you for the rest of your weekend.

We got colonoscopies. We brought it, we brought it. We're so versatile over that. We'll get the fans to say why. He's gonna have a second one next week. We make it hot! All right, we want to thank everybody in Green Bay. Make it hot!

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