Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara - Wells Adams on Reality TV Chaos, Thanksgiving Debates & Disney Adult Life

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Wells Adams joins Matt Leinart and Jerry Ferrara for a wildly fun episode covering everything from getting exposed on Traitors to hosting Sweet Empire: Winter Wars, life on Bachelor in Paradise, Thanksgiving battles, Christmas movie rankings, and full-blown Disney adult confessions. Wells also shares Ole Miss stories, bartending chaos, golf podcast wins, and why Lane Kiffin better stay put.   Matt and Jerry also make their pitch to get Matt on Dancing with the Stars. Finally, the guys are joined by Annie Agar to talk Shedeur Sanders and the life of backup quarterbacks, Cam Skattebo on WWE Monday Night Raw and Jerry tries to catch Matt on another round of Twisted Tea Trivia.    New episodes of Throwbacks drop every Thursday. Make sure you’re subscribed on YouTube and following on all podcast platforms. Also, make sure you’re locked in on social @ThrowbacksShow on all platforms for highlight moments, bonus content, and to engage with the guys & the Throwbacks community. (http://throwbacksshow.com/)      A big thank you to our sponsors:    Wendy’s  Join Team Tendy’s and enjoy a line-up like never before. Crispy. Juicy. Tendys Now at Wendy’s. https://www.tendys.com  Twisted Tea Grab a Refreshing Twisted Tea Today.  https://www.twistedtea.com/locations  Ka’Chava Go to https://kachava.com and use code THROWBACKS for 15% off your next order.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What are your thoughts on Shador Sanders getting the rock? You can put that to bed. It's a ridiculous argument. Now, maybe he needs to get out of Cleveland. Maybe it's just the organization. By the way, I would want him to get out of there, too. All right, welcome to another episode of Throwbacks. please take a second

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and Maddie I got a road game today bro your dad your dad of the year right now just grinding right now yeah your boys in a road game

I'm at Disney World with the family you know wife seven and a half months pregnant apparently this is the last thing we're going to do as a family of four

it's a very important time so this is a big deal big deal please pray for me. If you see me in the theme park, just shout words of encouragement. You can do it. I mean, you've posted, I mean, your wife posted, you're just a napper. You're just napping wherever you can get it, just in the middle of a little couch circle with just fans and guests everywhere. You just naping throughout the day. If there's a seat and I have more than five minutes, I'm sitting down in the park and I'm sleeping. I'm taking a five minute. You've officially become that guy. That's when you know you're getting a little bit older. It is true. Well, speaking of that guy, we have a that guy coming on a show today. Because you know him from like a hundred million reality shows. Wells Adams. Matt, I'm curious how you met Wells. So I met Wells. So, well, I've actually been a fan of Wells because I used to love the Bachelor, Bachelorette series. I don't watch it as much anymore. And then he's become like the staple bartender on Bachelor in Paradise for a long time. So everybody loves Wells. Great dude. Big personality.

just like you watch him you're like oh man I want to be boys with that guy so I got a chance to meet him this past summer in Tahoe for the golf tournament I was out there with Travis Matthew he was out there doing some stuff with Travis Matthew and doing like some stuff for his YouTube with Chad mom they they host the Vanity Index podcast together the golf podcast so we played um it was me uh Austin Reeves Chad and uh Wells and we played that's a fun for some oh it's fun we played that practice round and we just just had a blast man and just got to talk like he his family was some of his family went to usc um he went to old miss so definitely a lot of a lot of old miss news right i guess some stories out of him

yeah we get some stories out of him but uh great dude and i'm pumped to talk to man just because he's like he might not be mount rushmore reality tv but he's done it all like as a contestant as a host um like his resume is ridiculous and even the show that everyone keeps telling you me I have to watch because I'm a big like murder mystery clue mafia fan as traitors and he was on this past. He's spoiler alert. I mean, it's out there in public. He didn't last long. I think his wife Sarah was very disappointed that he got the boot so early. So we're going to talk to him about that. And he has a show also Sweet Empire, Winter Wars. It's a baking show. I believe he's on food network. So he's just everywhere. And Matt, I know you're always on the hunt for a great reality

gig, and maybe Wells could help put the word in, but if you could have your choice, if there was a draft of reality shows, and you could say, hey, I hope this show drafts me. What reality show would you hope drafts Matt Liner, the reality host?

Oh, a host or is a contest? Or host, contestant, whatever. I think I think Dancing with the Stars. Really? Yeah. Although that just gives me, it gives me anxiety just thinking about it, but yeah. But if Dancing with the Stars called you right now, and they were like, Matt, we are very interested

in you for season 100 and whatever they're on. You're like full stop all in. Do we even have to think about it? They shoot during the fall, so that's challenging. But yeah, I mean, I just think it's one of those things where I say this to everyone and this is like no joke. I'm at a point in my life where I've branched out and want to do other things that maybe make me uncomfortable or something that I wouldn't have been able to do. And my wife brought that out of me. Like when my mom passed away true story like eight years ago i was like you know what like i'm more than a football player i want to do all this other stuff like and dude i i skated on the for the la kings when i didn't know how to skate in front of 10 000 people i've ever seen anyone do mario lemieux and i was like

i'm gonna make an ass of myself but i'm gonna do it yeah um so i'm just kind of in that like mindset of like trying new things and and embracing it and and having fun and all that so i think that would be a fun challenge um i know a lot of people have done it but um and as a host, I mean, gosh, I don't know. Hosting would be fun, too, though. But, I mean, Wells is, like, he's got the greatest gig in the world, man. Just hosting all these baking shows. He's a bartender giving group therapy to, you know, mid-20-something-year-olds, trying to find love. Like, the guy's got made. We're going to get to the Wells interview right now, but also stick around because after that, Annie Agar, joining us with Twisted Tea. We're going to do more trivia. And we're going to hit

a little Shador-Sander stuff, a little Cam Scataboo stuff. And the Thursday, the Thanksgiving and Christmas Day slate. So, but first we give you Wells Adams. All right. This one's got me fired up. Today on the show, we're joined by one of reality TV's most beloved personalities. You know him from The Bachelorette or is the world's most overqualified and my favorite bartender where he's part host, part therapist, part matchmaker, and part guy who hounds out tequila when things get messy on Bachelor in Paradise. One of my guilty pleasures. He's a radio veteran. He also did a sit on traitors, a very short stint. he's a pretty decent golfer

I've seen it the host of the Vanity Index podcast with Chad Mum the your favorite thing podcast with Brandy Cyrus and the host of Sweet Empire Winter Wars Holy shit dude

that is like like your resume is longer than than anyone I know Wells Adams joins the show guys Wells Adams What's up brother

Was that good or no That was you like that I mean I think it was Chat GPT that wrote that But I don't think it was pretty good What did I miss? I'm sure I miss something I mean this resume is ridiculous

No, that's pretty much it. Usually people are like, he's the poor one in the relationship with his wife, who's a mother family. I usually get that one. Oh, we wouldn't do. We wouldn't do that to you. But I do appreciate you letting all the listeners and viewers know that, yes, I was on two episodes of Traders. I was the first one banished from that fucking show. But here we are. You know, everyone I know has been telling me, you got to watch Traders, you got to watch Traders. I'm a big like wherewolves and villagers

mafia guy all that so I haven't checked out but I read some of the clips from you coming out there

did it feel like you shamed the family because I feel like that's been the headlines so far I don't know

if they're egging you on it did you actually feel like it was a letdown for you oh I was

so embarrassed like the truth of the matter is is that I have a little bit of sheltering

when it comes to Bachelor and Paradise right? they're yeah it's not good to make me look bad as the you know therapist bartender so i'm sheltered a little bit by production but they're not they didn't care and they were just straight out and same thing um you know my wife's an actress so like when i first got out here i never played werewolf for mafia when i lived in nashville doing radio but when i came out here that's all all

these big game they sit around they play this game and i i should have known so i was terrible then and then when they asked me to do the show everyone was like oh you're gonna be good you're really analytical you're a good people person your political game will be great and I was like yeah yeah I will be great and immediately immediately was knocked off

that show but I have a theory on why I got kicked off so quickly and I don't kind of blame everyone for doing it you know I was surrounded by like a lot of like housewives and other reality to be stars that they kind of are just always insane, like constantly.

Like, they never turn it off. Right. You know, I was a radio guy, so, like, I didn't turn it on until, like, the red light was on, right? And same with Paradise. Like, if nothing's going on, I'm not, like, trying to joke around and laugh. And I'm, like, saving all that stuff for the show. And so everyone clocked it.

Like, we would be doing missions, and they'd put cameras down and maybe, like, don't talk or whatever. Like, if you talk, just talk, you know, like, about. your families or something, don't talk about gameplay. And I would just completely check out and everyone was like, there's something wrong with this guy. Like he turns off and I was like, listen, I just all have so much like energy in the tank and like you're not going to wasted if cameras aren't being pointed at us.

So I remember like in the tour, they cut it out because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense when someone's like, you weren't talking when cameras weren't on because you assume cameras were always on. But that was something that people were like, there's something wrong with this guy. you don't talk when cameras aren't. I'm just chilling. You're trying to wait, for cameras to get picked back up. So yeah, I got picked up. Who won?

Who won your seat? Did Ephron win your season? Yeah, Dylan won, Dolores won, one, Lord Ivor won, and Gabby won as well. So yeah, I was extra painful because Gabby, you know, was from the Bachelor world and she won and I was off immediately.

Ephron's on a heater right now, dancing with the stars. He's still on. I went to Dancing with the Stars last week for the, like, the 20th, you know, year anniversary. And I sat with his dad. It was a really cute story. So, like, after we were sitting, well, we were sitting behind the Irwins, which was kind of, like, crazy for me. But after the show, someone came up and was like, hey, I'm a huge fan of yours. And, like, you know, whatever happened on Traders, you know, I'm really sorry, you got robbed or something like that.

And I was like, oh, thinking with Traders, this is Zach's, or this is. Dylan's dad. And the girl turns to him and goes, oh my God, I'm such a huge fan of Dylan. And his dad turns to me and goes, it's really nice. For years I've only ever heard, I'm a huge fan of the act. And now it's from the right

here that people are a fan of Dylan and like knowing how great of a guy he is. And I was like, oh, that's like the sweetest thing ever. But yeah, he's on a major glow up right now. Yeah. I feel like it's a good time for brothers. He's on a run. Dave Franco has like the number one movie in the country. Brothers are

brothers are on the rise uh i feel you though so i feel basically what you're saying is like your silence in your professionalism of i'm gonna save it for the camera made you look suspicious almost for sure made it be like this guy's a threat we got see i love the hollywood mafia wherewolves and villagers game but it is kind of crazy when you think that like i don't know if you've ever played with your wife in the same game i once went with this person i was dating and it's a game of lying matt all you got to do is just be really good at lying i've played it yeah And it ends relation. It's actually a horrible idea to go do that with your significant other, in my opinion. It did not work out so well for me. And I'm really good at lying too.

It's a great quality to have. Well, I do this bit a lot with my wife. And so she doesn't believe anything I say. But like a lot of times if we're like visiting a new place, I'll make up some stats, some historical stat. That's not true at all. I love that. I love it. Totally forget about it. And so she's now realized that I'm always making stuff up. She's just like, I don't believe anything. And I'm like, we really have to go ask chat, GPT. Tell us about, tell us about Sweet Empire Winter Wars. Because you've done, you done it. You did a pizza show before, right? You did, you hosted that. And I actually curious if you prefer hosting over being like a contestant on a show. Oh, much prefer hosting. It's so much easier. Like I, yeah, I did, I did a show called Best and Doe with, Danieli Uditti, who's the owner of Pizana. So if you live in L.A., you kind of know that place. And that was awesome. I mean, we all gained like 20 pounds doing that show. But it's the same production company, Alfred Street,

that is doing this Food Network show called Sweet Empire Weird Tour Wars. So they hit me up when Food Network asked us to make the show. And, yeah, it's like I'm telling, like, it's the best gig in the world. Like, you go, you hit a mark, you read a teleprompter, you eat food. and then like that's all you've got it made dude like honestly dude i mean like i death do a show where i make drinks in quote unquote paradise that's a slog it's like 18 hour shoot days i'm on the entire time this is the best and i've got we got to do it in toronto which is like has a great food scenes yeah yeah sweet empire's fun it's um it's kind of like there's a lot of

these shows like is it cake and you know like harry potter it's a great food scenes a great hyper-realistic cake building. I mean, these guys are bakers, but really they're like sculptors and artists. And the stuff that they make on this show is wild. And it's obviously winter war. So it's like during the holidays. So when family comes home for Thanksgiving and for Christmas,

everyone should turn it on because it's very in the spirit of the holiday. And you get some ideas about like things you could do over the holidays. I mean, obviously like they're doing stuff that like you can't do. but it is cool to watch and it was a really fun show to do Also, and I don't know if this is because I'm currently, I don't know if you could tell I'm at Disney World with my family

Hold up in a tell room. You asleep at Yeah. This guy's been at Disney World for almost a week. This is the greatest break. When we confirm this interview, I'm like, you know, noon to two. I'm like, we're talking to Wells till three.

My wife's like, wait a minute, you're doing a three hour interview like, yep. Is that Turtle just napping on the middle? of the hotel lobby. I do have to say the title, it literally sounds like one of the Avengers episodes. I'm guessing that was like intentional Sweet Empire Winter Wars.

I get the feeling that it gets intense on this show. Yeah, so like the wrinkle in this show is the first episode, we have 14 bakers, and we all make them individually go make something, right? Like it's like a present or something you found underneath the tree or something like that. And then basically we vote for the top six. and then those top six get to choose who's going to be on their quote unquote empire.

So then it becomes like a game of dodgeball, right? And if you're picked last, you're out. The last two are out. And then as the show goes on, teams that like don't win their empires crumble and then they get absorbed by the other teams. And so what's cool about this is there is gameplay to it, right? Like if you're a chocolatier, then you want a sugar artist or you want a cake builder. because everyone kind of has their specialities

and they're all trying to build their best team. And so there's a little bit of a political game as well, right? Like all these people have won different take building challenges on food network and stuff. So someone's the leader of the empire. Someone has to be kind of like the peasant of the empire. And that's a weird like dynamic shift for them. And so like there's internal conflict in that way.

respect. So it's, it's almost like a little bit like the challenge or traders for that matter and then also baking wise, which I thought was kind of a cool wrinkle to like an old classic. So you mentioned something to a Bachelor in Paradise. Now, I, you know, I've been around now. I remember being the young actor. Now I'm like the old guy, right? And I remember going back, gosh, I don't remember what year this strike was. Might have been like, oh, seven, oh, eight. But I just remember when like reality TV was like you were all the actors are put on notice it's like this is coming you can't stop it it's gonna take over and all the area yeah sure i feel like i was conditioned to like hate on it and then i became a fan of it so now when i look at all the shows i like now as

i get older i try to analyze it as what's your quality of life for the job right now i got kids and stuff i love golf so you mentioned i was going to ask you about the workload with bachelor in Paradise. Because it seems as a viewer, like you're there, you do your thing, and then you got this downtime. But is it the same as actors on a set we were there waiting around for your turn, so to speak, or when something happens, they need you? Are you sort of on call for 18 hours on set? Yeah, it's not like I get to go sit in my, you know, Star Wars trailer for, you know, hours on it and play Madden. I've been to like my wife's set and I'm like, you guys don't ever do anything.

I'm constantly on call. So we changed locations for Paradise this past season. So it was a little bit different. But in the past, we were filming in Mexico at an actual, like, working resort called Playa Escondita. And effectively, I just lived on site. I originally lived offsite and they'd bring me in. But once they realized that, like, they need me for, when anytime something goes wrong, They'll be like, send Wells in, send whoever's, like, upset to talk to him immediately.

So I was just always on call. So I would just, you know, sit around waiting for them to be like, we need you on set in 15. Like, I'd keep my mic pack, like, in my room. And it's like, you know, like, go to the control room. What do you guys want me to do? Who you want to talk to? What's Neil? Okay, down.

Then go and film it. And then, you know, we have these really, you film reality. You know, you really film for about 18 hours a day. I know that's what you mean, you really film for 24 hour days because we have cameras in the rooms, but for for like camera guys walking around with you, it's like 18 hours a day. And so effectively, you know, I'll go, especially for a rose ceremony day. That's a really long day. So I'll go down. I'll start making drinks like at three. And then I won't wrap until, I mean, for the old set, I wouldn't wrap until like four in the morning. And it's crazy long. vlog and it's also hot and like can't have air really because that messes with sound and so yeah it's it's a it's a lot of work and the thing that most people are surprised to find out about my job is they're like well you're not really making the drinks and I'm like we can't the bar's too small to have like someone else crops yeah like I can't I have generally I have a camera guy

a sound guy and a producer in my bar with me I can't have have like another person to help me. So I'm having to make all the drinks. I'm having to stock it. Like it's a it's like a normal real bartending job. Um, that just also like comes with, okay, try to get this person to cry. I'm like, all right, I can do that. I'm at the age now where you know, in my sports career, there's like this gap of like older guys know me. The younger generation has no clue, right? Their dads know me. So it's like this. It's this weird kind of mental, like, gymnastics with me. It's like, God, am I that old?

When you're bartending there, I think we might have talked about this when we golfed this summer together. Do you feel like a major disconnect at some point because these, they're kids essentially? Some of them are really young. Are you just like, shit, man, I'm going to ride the wave. I feel like I got a lot of great advice to give. Like, it's got to go through your mind, right? When you're serving like 23-year-olds.

Yeah. So this is, I just did my eighth season, right? So when I first went on the show, I was a peer to everyone. And so it felt totally normal and it was easy to talk to people. And then it was last season or two seasons ago where they started using terminology, like that and like mid and stuff. And I was like, whoa, dude, you're like, dude, I need to get out of here. I'm like the creepy old uncle at this point. Like, this is not good.

So yeah, it's, I'm surprised that they keep me like coming around. I'm surprised I haven't gone a little bit younger, but I do have like the value that I bring is that like I'm in like a healthy, stable relationship of which everyone's trying to find. We have good advice to give them when it comes to relationships and dating and stuff. But yeah, it's it's passed me by for sure. But I get that. You're now a relationship success story. And then you're off in the corner going, hey, Siri, what is six, seven mean? What is all these kids talking about?

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It's happening. It's all coming. You got the show. And this is where I really feel like, you know, the debate starts. Everyone has their holiday traditions. and people often overlook Thanksgiving, right? Even now with football, and we're going to talk about this later in our show,

it's almost like Christmas has overtaken for the best sports day now because you get NBA, NFL. Thanksgiving for you. I want to start one thing. Are you more host? Let's have everybody over? Or do you like, would you rather you and Sarah, let's go somewhere and not have to clean up, not have to do anything?

Are you a host or are you a guest? We're the host. we do like the Friendsgiving, like the island of misfit toys. Everyone comes over to our house. I'm a good cook. Thanks for the invite, by the way. I appreciate that. Well, so there's a caveat here. So Sarah's doing a Broadway show called Just in Time right now. So she's in New York. So I'm going to New York this year. So she has to perform at the at the Macy's Day parade. Oh, yeah. And then a peacock called me and they were like, hey, we need you to come down and do hosting for us as well. So now it's Thanksgiving's turned into a job for us. So we're We're not going to be doing anything other than just, like, working that day. But normally, yeah, I'm the host.

And then I'm a good cook. My brother's good cook. He usually is over. And then obviously, I'm the bartender. So then I get everyone just absolutely plastered. And we've got a bunch of, like, friends who are musicians and stuff. And my wife's just a great singer. So then generally what happens at our house, we've got a piano in one of the rooms and guitars and stuff.

And it'll devolve into like everyone black. out drunk, singing like Benfold's five songs and like the entire thing of like rent or like wicked and stuff. It sounds epic. And in the time in the moment when you're like cross-eyed and drunk, you're like, this is amazing. And then you watch the videos next day. You're like, Jesus, we're horrible. We love you doing this. So there, that sounds like a great time. Thanks for the invite. But next year, you can come. Next year, I'll be there. there's a jerry and i talked about this all week and i am really curious of your thought so in our house the the gift card debate for christmas i i'm a very i hate saying this because my wife hates

this i'm a very surface level gifter i will spend a fortune to gift my wife whatever she wants but i'm not like it's hard for me to put a lot of thought and effort it's not because it's just because it's just like it's tough for me so she years ago has been like gift cards show no effort I hate them never get me a gift card again I get her you know like the Starbucks and dude I'll get you a thousand dollars of Target and go like go go have a great day are gift cards acceptable presents to give your significant other no I would get in trouble for that as well yeah but it is frustrating because it's like I don't get it you have to tell me what you want you know like I I have no fashion sense or style sense like you want a

handbag or something I have no idea which one which one to you have you need to like really kind of see in a direction. So I've just been got, but here's a thing. So she'll be like, I just want this one thing. And of course this one thing is like $3,000. And I'm like, this YSL bag is going to bankrupt me. I got to go do like 13 cameos just to be able to pay for this thing. So yeah, I think gift cards are a bad play.

But I love gift cards, though. What's the thing? I do this a lot. I hit my wife's best friend. up, and I'm like, hey, what do I get her? What, what does she need? What do you think she needs? What is she, like, lusting after when you guys go get brunch? And then I usually just go get that. Yeah, that's a good idea. I mean, I'll do a Dick's gift card or a best guy gift card and I'm I'm the happiest guy for a year. It doesn't. Also, it's like, I don't know about you Wells or even

you Matt, but I don't mean this in like an ungrateful way. But I feel like at some point, you know, obviously you've gotten your significant other gifts and stuff, but some, like, I'm not saying I have everything, but there's nothing... I haven't gotten a great gift is what I'm saying until I was like a kid. Like, because when you're a kid,

you want it bad, right? I can't wait for Bree to hear this and be like, what are you saying, Jerry? The sweater's great. I love it. Yes, I'm a rock it. Like, I have all the golf stuff I could ever need,

which I'm sure you do as well. You host a great golf podcast. I've been working to basically try to make a living as an average golfer in a sense. Like, I just like, I almost would rather like, let's go do something.

Let's go have a fun night, then make a memory as opposed to like, I got this really cool sweat. Yeah, she's going to hear this and probably hate me. But here's where I make it up to her, because I feel like this is a gift. And Wells, I'm going to ask you, when does the tree go up?

And then more importantly, when does it go down? Because I feel like when it goes down is just as important as when it goes up. Yeah. I mean, it's got to go up after Thanksgiving. Has to. Yeah, I think that's weird when, that is still up.

And then it's got it coming up before. Yeah, that's okay. Is it frocked? It's fake. I got so much going on right now. I just took down 50 boxes from the attic a couple days ago. I got, go ahead,

balls. Sorry. I'm flustered. Yeah. So I think it's got to go up after Thanksgiving. And then I think you can, not too long after New Year's, do you need to take it down?

Because there's a lot going on between Christmas and New Year's where like, I get it. Like, for this, but I think after New Year's, your first resolution needs to be like, let's get the house back in order. That's my thought. I also could do without the ugly... When does yours go, Gary?

Mine? Uh, well, being that we just did this whole Disney trip, which was my version of, uh, hey, I'm, I'm down for whatever. I'm really hoping to stretch until, till first week at the day, like December. Get me to like December 5th and then right after

New Year's, that thing comes down. Have you done the, um, The Guardians of Galaxy ride at Disney World? So I'm doing that Thursday. Oh, dude. Also, because my wife's also very pregnant, so she can't really go on those rides. And I have a six-year-old who's now into, like,

going on the bigger stuff. So, yeah, I'm going to go on that for the first time. I'm hearing that's the old Tower of Terror, right? No, that's a Disney land. He's at Disney World, right? You're in Orlando? Yeah. And, like, Matt, you haven't done Disney World Orlando?

It's like the difference of, like, high school, football versus the NFL. No shout to like Disneyland in L.A. It's amazing. That's a one day. This thing right here I'm in the playoffs right now. Yeah, there's three parks you got to deal with. But dude, that that ride, that Guardians of Galaxy

ride in Orlando is the greatest is the greatest ride I've ever been on my entire life. And can I can I ask? Yeah. Did you just go on it, Wells? I mean, or this was you were like a teenager. Wells, meet me down here. Dude, she made

let's be fair. She made a mouse, a lot of money on modern family. She has something coming. She has something coming to her. Yeah. And she used to host like the Disney like Christmas parades and stuff. So we go to Disneyland a lot. I was not in the Disney adult, but I've been like sexually transmitted now that like I have to like go to Disneyland and Disney World and I like know all the stuff. Let me ask you such a douchey question. Do you guys have a plaid there? So I used to do that at Disney. It's the only way to go home. I used to do that at Disneyland all the time.

You're telling me your raw-dogging Disney World right now? With fast passes. No, no, no. Here's, so something interesting, our wives would get along really well because she's into the Disney stuff too. She treats this like a business operation. When I tell you, I have not waited online more than 10 minutes for any ride. That being said, I used to ball out.

and I just take my nephews and a big group and we go and it's the best experience. There's nothing better than getting you guys. It's like court side Knicks game for Disney. And then once you do it, you're screwed. So I'm also a little scared to give my kids a taste of that because I just wonder what it's going to

what it's going to do to them in the future. And they're like, wait a minute, dad, why are all these people here? It's like, it's called a line, son, called a line, get in line. No, we're semi-rawdog. And it's, it's been great. 10 minutes, 12 minutes, tops. and it's been great.

Also, I've mastered, like, when I sit, rule number one is whenever I'm butt on a chair, I nap. I don't care where I am. If it's eight minutes, 10 minutes, I'm falling asleep all over this part. But you know what? I like the movie stuff.

That's where I really, like we're doing the big, cool movie stuff coming up. And I think it's a good segue to do the Wendy's Fresh take as our kind of top three. We're going off the fly here, Christmas movies. Okay. And this could be your personal, have to be what you think is the best. It could be the ones that are like the coolest for you.

Matt, I don't know if you want to swing first. I feel like we're going to overlap a little bit here. Well, I feel like we should just ask the whole, the dumb every year is diehard of Christmas movie, but we don't have to get into that. Um, mine are pretty easy, dude. And I'll start. So home alone, home alone, number one, elf number two, and, uh, Christmas vacation number three. although it did have one of the greatest scenes as a teenager of all time when she had the red bikini out of the pool. I think I watched that about 150 times in my room by myself. But those would be my three.

Those would be my three. I just don't think that one stands a test of time for the generation of kids now, which is unfortunate. All right. Wells, you got three? You want me to swing first. No, I can go. I'm going to go with a Christmas story.

Yes, you try out. Classic. Fantastic. That one holds up, too, actually. I watched that one. I disagree. I disagree. That's fine.

You think you don't... What? Dude, Christmas story was in like 1975. Yeah, but it came out in like the 80s or whatever. It was always... Yeah. It's a classic, Matt. It's a classic, but it's not like...

Don't judge my stuff. All right? That's right. No judgment. This is bad. Go ahead. Go ahead. Finish.

I thought I was in the trust tree, in the nest. We are in the trust tree. Christmas story. Christmas vacation. I still think that holds up but I'm old too I guess and then I like the family stone but the family

but it is really what a list I'm okay and then I have a caveat I have a least favorite Christmas movie that might be controversial but the family stone if you've never seen it it's it's kind of odd because this guy brings this girl home and the family

is kind of a big mess and then at some point Luke Wilson steals the girlfriend and then the guy who bought the original girl home takes the sister of the girl it gets really, really weird and I remember telling

showing my wife being like, this is one of my favorite Christmas movies it reminds me of my family and afterwards she was like what the fuck's wrong with your family, dude, it's not good. Now the one that I hate I think is an absolute trash movie

is is, oh, what's the other Who's in it? Bad Santa? Santa Claus. No, no, no. It's a love, it's a love story. It's like four different.

The holiday? No. Or, oh, four, four Christmases? No, no, no. Love actually. Love actually. Yeah, love actually. That movie is trash.

All right. Everyone in that movie is an absolute monster. It's true. Bad decisions everywhere. Everyone is such a piece of shit in that movie. And it's like, who's a love story? What are you talking about? I'm looking at, oh, is that Julia?

Who's in that? that movie. I'm in full agreement and it's also the most emotionally manipulative thing possible. By the way, A list, dude. He's through like his best friend's girl with like signs. One guy, Snape from

freaking Harry Potter is cheating on his wife and gives her a crap gift of a Joni Mitchell double disc CD and then gives the mistress the diamond thing. The only the only like redeeming storyline in that is

is the guy who ends up screwing his maid, but he can't even speak Portuguese. The whole thing is trash, dude. By the way, it sounds like you've seen the movie like 19 times. Of course. You have to watch it. Before we let you go do, we want to talk a little bit of sports,

and I didn't know this about you. I was excited about. This is what I really want to talk to you. This is what we're here for. So I didn't know you went to Ole Miss. Yeah. And I found that out when we golfed. and I just got to ask you straight up one

I want to hear just your greatest story from Ole Miss because I can only imagine Oxford that you can tell and then Lane Kiffin because we are in the Lane Kiffin sweepstakes right now and I want to get your thoughts on how you feel about that okay like my frat text chain at Old Miss is it's actually it's too much right I'm like guys we've got to stop this is we're like we're tracking

private jets down to game girl you are yes oh dude And everyone's dissecting every little social media thing that Lane's doing. I'm watching the Pat McAfee show. Can't stay on that show. Had to watch it yesterday because he was on it. And we were dissecting that. Here's my thought.

I think that Lane's going to stay. And maybe this is wishful thinking. But I think college football has changed a lot. Now, if this was 10 years ago, get the hell out of there. I totally get it. LSU, Florida, much better jobs. But I don't think that's the case anymore. more, especially with the NIL.

Ole Miss is fan base one. We have a ton of money that we are not scared to give the program to get to a certain level. And that level is beneath what everyone at Florida and LSU expects. If we get 10 wins, this is positive for you. So you have a really cushy gig. Now, I don't think that there's a better town in the SEC. And this is crazy because Mississippi, there are a lot of craft towns in it. But Oxford is one of the coolest places in the world.

Our game day experience, I think, is the best in the SEC, and I went and traveled around to everyone. And Baton Rouge is pretty fun. Tuscan is pretty cool. Obviously, Texas now, but I don't really consider that. But I think that our game day experience is so cool. You get to do that. The walk of champions right to the stadium, which is right next door. You come back, you party in the grove with chandeliers and flat screen TVs and they're catered and everyone's dressed up and everyone's hot.

At least all the chicks are. The whole thing is money. When I think of Gainesville, I don't know if I think Gainesville is a better town. And here's the thing. And I don't know if I think Baton Rouge is a better town. Now, New Orleans, I'd give you that. But this is a different piece. Now, here's the reason why I don't think Lane should go.

And Lane, if you're listening to me, you should listen to me. If you win a national championship at Old Miss, they will put a golden statue of your ass doing Pilates in the Grove. like you will be forever the greatest coach maybe other than Johnny Vaugh, but your name will be on that freaking stadium. If you go to Gainesville, I'm sorry, but you're never going to be better than Urban Meyer. I don't know how many,

you can win a million freaking national championships. Urban Meyer will still be a lot there. And if you go to LSU, dude, you won't even be the first, second, third, or fourth best coach they've got there. And here's the thing. You could go to LSU and you could lose, You could win a national championship and you could still get fire

because that's what happened to Coach O. All right? I'm telling you, you can all miss. You've been thinking about this a lot this week. I love this take. By the way, I'm going to put you on a text with Lane. He'll love you. He'll love you, dude.

He loves that shit. Flip this, send it to him. I will. You're making a very similar take that I always do with my Knicks where it's like a championship here is worth like two anywhere else because it's like charted territory. right yeah i think i would snatch you of you i would disagree

in the sense i think ls u is a bigger better job um i agree with your points but for him to kind of take the next step but old mess is going to the playoff this year he's already making a fortune you can have whatever he wants yeah he can recruit there and in this world you can get guys like like that that's the thing is like it's

it's going to be interesting because i'm hearing i'm hearing a lot just like you that he might be gone um story from oxford before we taught golf. Okay, I've got a lot of them. Dude, Oxford is, if you haven't, if you were a lover of college football

and haven't been to Oxford, Mississippi, you need to do it. Like, make the pilgrimage. It is a very, very special place. Okay, my favorite story was when I was, like, pledging in a fraternity, we had to, um, we had to, like, go to the student section early for games

and you had to be wearing, like, a suit, which sucks. especially like, you know, in, when it's really hot there. It's Mississippi is really hot. So we're like wearing like wool suits and we'd have to go early and we'd have to save seats for actives. And it sucked because you couldn't at that time, I think you can now, but at that time you couldn't drink in the stadium. So we did all these crazy things to sneak booze in. And so one night before a game, we dressed in all black and I had like three handles of, um, of like,

crap bourbon, like duct tape to me. And it was two of my best friends. We went down to the stadium and we jumped the fence. We broke in and we duct taped booze to like the underneath the bleachers where we were going to be sitting. And then when we came out, the cops came. So we, so I scurried underneath like a dump truck. And then my two buddies, they ran off for like the hills. Right. So the cops come to the dump truck. They're looking all around. I get up underneath the truck and I'm holding onto the axle. So I'm like above the grounds where they can't see me, but they see me. Also, was I drunk probably. I was in college. So they get me down and they put me in handcuffs. They put me in the back of the car. And they're like, dude, where are your two other friends? And so I said, well, our rendezvous point was over at that tree.

Call a duty. A rendezvous point. But they were like, really, when they went and like, we're like searching this tree, and that gave my buddies long enough time to get home. Now, we had a getaway driver,

which was my friend, Wetland's girlfriend, Annalie Floyd. And so. It was like bootleggers, bro. It was like the roaring 20s. She was really cute,

as every girl at old miss is. And so they were at like the huddle house, which is like, or like the waffle house. you know, like a crappy diner waiting for us to call. And at the time, these cops came in and they were talking about how these kids were trying to sneak booze into the stadium. And so Annalie went up to him and started flirting with them, convinced them to let me go.

And so they called it in being like, hey, let this kid go. He's cool or whatnot. I am released. I call my buddies. I'm being like, where are you? They were at the square drinking, like having a ball at the library or whatnot. And I was like, I've been in a cop car with handcuffs, you know, like for the past like hour and a half and Anna Lee got us out of trouble.

So yeah, that was my, that was one of my favorite stories of breaking into the stadium and putting that's awesome. Literally, that sounds like you could have just changed that to like, it was me and Al Capone. We were bringing whiskey from Canada, bootlegging it to the East Coast. That's amazing, dude. Well, selfishly, something I'm very excited about because I'm a huge golf fan, and I love the podcast.

You and Chad do Vanity Index, and I saw it got picked up by Golf Channel, so it's going to be airing on Golf Channel as well as every other thing you're already airing on, correct? Yeah, I think January 14th will start, and it's 10 a.m. Eastern 7 o'clock on Pacific Time, which is going to be hilarious because we are members of the, Chad and I are members of the same club

and when you go into the grill room, like the bar area, the golf channel is always on and I know everyone's going to be like, these assholes, they're all. You wield a lot of power though. You could call some dudes out, you know, slow play. You could call, you could actually make some moves within your own club.

Well, the thing I love about it too is, first of all, you have two guests that I don't think have ever done pods. Ken Griffey Jr., who we've tried to get on this show. He's very elusive. And then my old buddy, who I know for 20 years, Scott Kahn, who has no social media and has never done a podcast probably in his life. So when I saw him pop up, I'm like, wow, they managed to get a microphone in front of Scott Kahn. That's impressive.

It just looks like you guys are having fun. Like, I know Chad, obviously, doing a lot of stuff in the golf world, but you, how long have you been, like, when did it golf catch you? At what point in your career and in your life? And I want you to break down Matt's swing once we get it. That's going to be our outro. Break down that St. Andrews swing. By the way, no, well, he wasn't, we were at Tahoe together. Oh, Tahoe.

St. Andrews, by the way, I picked it up. I played my best round of all time at the old course with Austin. It was fantastic. It's wide open. It is wide open. You've got all of Scotland to the left ladder. Yeah, I do. Yeah, so, well, Scotty Khan is the man.

He's the best dress guy at our club, and it's like not close. everything is tailored and he's fantastic my golf journey really started as a kid I grew up in Monterey like Pebble Beach Carmel area which is like on a golf mecca I grew up on a golf course

like selling golf balls and we'd go out and play I grew up on a golf course called Old Delmani which is the oldest golf course west of Mississippi and we used to bribe the marshal with the bottles of wine every month so he wouldn't give us shit for like jumping on and playing like a quick

nine at Twilight. And then I played in high school. I wasn't great. I don't even know if I barely made the varsity team. So I've never been like a great golfer, but I'm like competent. And then I went to college. I didn't really play in college. And then when I was in Nashville doing radio, I was poor, so I didn't play.

And then when I moved back to LA, I was like, I can play, you know, 12 months out of a year. I'm going to get back into it. And so that's how I kind of like returned to the golf world. and then I'm buddies with Chad Mum who has done so much in the golf space he does full swing on Netflix. He was a part of Realmore 2. He's got a scripted show

that I don't know if we're supposed to talk about but it's going to be coming out very soon with the big star that everybody knows and so he was like we should do like a full swing recap show and I was like yeah let's do let's do that I've got a studio in my house

we can just do it from my house and then it kind of turned into we just invited all our famous friends to come in super low stakes right like i don't want to know about i'm not no gotcha questions on our show i just want to talk to you about golf and yeah the one thing that like everyone like every celebrity that plays golf they just want to talk about golf and if that's all it is it's an easy sell usually we'll be like come over we'll do the show and then we'll go play like you're our guest or what now that's kind of how we dangle the carrot for them.

So yeah, it's been really fun, and I'm excited that Golf Channel is picking us up. Like, you know, a lot of these streamers and networks are going to this. We want your, your, the video portion of your podcast. Like everyone's just looking for content. And us being on the end of this, I think is very, very cool.

And I'm thankful that Chad has the connections that he does to get us in there. There's a bunch of other podcasts that are probably more qualified, but, you too late in terms of lineert swing there we go can i can i just give can i give full context before we also known as disclaimers you want to give disclaimers out let's hear it this past year i think i told wells this i was like i'm going to start getting into golf you know teaming up with the travis matthew guys who are awesome want to get into it my hips feel good by the way i had a double hip replacement sorry that i was an athlete boys um

But I golfed maybe twice in the past 12 years up until this last year. And Tahoe, I believe, was my first or second time golfing this past year in 10 years. So to give context, my thing is, is if I ever really wanted to try and get good in golf, I think I would get good in golf. Okay. Go ahead. Now we turn it over to Well, who hosts a golf show on the golf channel. Let's hear it. I don't know.

No, I do like, you're obviously an athlete and you're. really tall. So that means you can create so much speed and so much lag. And so I imagine the more you play, you're just going to be one of those guys that's going to be able to pipe the ball like 350. And like you're going to be like the best scramble partner that's ever existed.

I think that your golf game is fantastic. But we so we had this one game, we have this one guy on our show named Yip Strickler. And he's a guy who, So basically people will be like, hey, we've got sandbaggers at our club. We need you to investigate. And then he'll go in there again and like investigate and do this whole thing. It's amazing.

It's a fantastic follow. He exposes so many dirt bags out there. And we had them on and we said, who have you found like in the business world or like professional wise is the biggest sandbag and rats out there? And he said, without a doubt, it's professional football quarterback. Really? And I was like, I have heard of these stories. So don't pull into that, okay?

No, I'm not that good. But I was so, Jerry, I had a blast with you guys, man. That was, Tahoe was such an experience. And I'm going to get into it. I need to come play with you guys at your club for sure. Anytime, seriously, anytime you want to play. But I went to Scotland, and I don't know if, oh, you've got to Scotland. We talked about that.

You went out there with Chris Harrison, right? Yeah. That was a crazy story just in general. He hit me up and he was like, hey, can you be in Edinburgh next week? I've got a free round of golf at the old course in a room with the Russix. And I was like, I'll see you there. Yeah. I bought it that day and that flew over there.

Bucket list stuff, man. It was such a great trip. Yeah. Well, dude, I would love to get out there with you too. Thank you for doing this. Happy holidays. We talked a lot of holiday stuff. Sweet Empire, Winter Wars, going on right now.

and just, dude, just keep all, the busiest man going right now. Keep doing it. Just living the good life, buddy. Here's just listening to. This is such a cool experience for me because my mom went to SC. My dad did his residency at SC. I grew up an SC fan when I got to meet Matt Liner. Like, me sending a selfie. We had so much fun, dude. That was such a fun day. Everyone was like, oh my God. And Jerry, I got to be honest with you, like a huge entourage fan. So getting invited to come on your guys as a show has been an absolute treat. and I feel very blessed to be asked to come and chit-chat with you guys. Wow, we appreciate you with big fans of yours and maybe we'll get a little alt-shot. We'll drag Matt into the deep waters of Alt-Shot,

which is... I was asking Jerry if we made a bet, but I was like, dude, we need at least 20 strokes. We can't play you and chat. I'm like an 11th. No, it would be me and Wells versus Matt in chat and we drag him into the Alt-Shot universe, so we expose Matt and all of his flaws.

Let's go. We'll play Hammer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it. All right, Wells. Thanks, brother. All right, you guys. Lane, stay. Hack the holidays with the PC Holiday Insiders Report. Try this PC Porchetta. Crackling, craveworthy. You're going to eat that? Who are you? I'm the voice for the next ad. Car commercial. But I noticed that show-stopping roast and... Help yourself.

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courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. We're going to do some twisted trivia, as usual. Matt's still clinging to his lead. Clinging to his lead. I think we're ditching the Hollywood stuff for now. It got a little wonky, but we're sticking with it. But also, new little wrinkle for everybody out there.

If you go to our socials at Throwback Show, I'm guessing on Twitter, but check Twitter and Instagram, we're going to give out a twisted trivia question, and the first to reply with the correct answer is going to get, I guess we'll just call it a care package. from Twisted Tea, which is very, something very good to have overall this holiday season. I'm going to need it as I continue to watch my Giants do some weird stuff. Annie, how are you? I'm probably better than you're doing. Sorry about that.

Sorry about that game. Just like, you really have such a great gig with your videos because, like, you're getting so much material this year. Oh, thank you. You got to work in Cam Scadaboo going to like Monday Night Raw or whatever snack at. You got to work that in the video. fans? I mean, it's scripted, right? Like that. It's scripted. Yeah. I, and I enjoy

WWW and I also see nothing wrong with it. I know that was a very hot topic for a lot of radio hosts locally in New York. Like, the Giants should never have let that happen. What do you mean? He went to wrestling. Did you see his tweet? He's in a walking boot. He's like, dude, I can't play football. I'm miserable. I would want to do something fun too. I totally get it. You mean you're worried he's going to get hurt, working with

essentially the greatest stuntman on the face of the earth that are wrestlers. He was front row UFC too, right? Wasn't he? He was a front row UFC too, right? Wasn't he? A couple weeks ago? Yeah.

He's living the dream right now. Yeah. I are. So, Matt, another interesting thing that's popped up a lot. Shador Sanders, obviously got some snaps. He's going to be starting.

A lot of people flinging a lot of takes and a lot of this is, you know, you played quarterback in the NFL. What are your thoughts on Shador Sanders getting the rock? Well, one I'm excited for him was I think he's a good player we covered him in college um I love I love

prime I I'm excited for his opportunity because it's a huge opportunity for him um you know it's just interesting because I feel like you're either in you're either in the camp of like chador got screwed and this and that and this and that or you're in the camp of like hey like he kind of got drafted probably maybe where people thought he might go when you actually evaluated him and he's he's a fifth round draft pick on an NFL team trying to make the football team like like like there's just like this torn so then when he goes in last week and there's no first team reps and this and that everyone's up in arms oh you're setting them up to failure and all of these things so from my experience and and i thought i think luke mccown had some great insight on on what a backup does throughout

the week and and i would i would say this first of all every organization every every coach every starting quarterback they're all different right i've played I played with quarterbacks who don't need as many reps because I played with, I played with Carson Palmer at the end of his career. He'd been playing 14 years. I played with Matt Schaub and Houston, who got 97% of the reps throughout the week just because Kubiak wanted his starter fully, like whatever. Arizona, obviously, I did start a couple years there. And then I backed up Kurt and I got a couple reps. So like, I would say on average, in my experience, I probably got from a Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday practice, I probably got three to four, maybe five first team reps with the first, with the ones, maybe. And half of those are probably a run play handing it off. Are you going and whatever? So that's not even exaggeration. So let's put that aside. And then now if a quarterback's nursing something, like I'm not going to practice today, like Carson did a couple, then I would take everything. I was a starter for that day. The reps that you get that are valuable are scout team reps.

now you're not necessarily running your plays you're running the other team's plays but a lot of these concepts are all the same so you're you're always mentally visualizing you're always processing the way you would process in a game now something i know a lot of quarterbacks do and i did this is i would i would especially in oakland i remember i would meet with our equipment guys like monday tuesday sometimes after practice and i would go through the script that we just went and i would go through every on air but i would go through remember you know the video of russell wilson before the game where he's going all that and everyone made fun of them but that that's legit like backup quarterbacks are mentally taking reps and visualizing hey if this isn't here this play one versus two three check them move to the next place so you're going through the script right you're going through the plays that is not the same as when the bullets are flying on a Sunday but that's how you mentally get prepared for a game that's all the reps you get when a starter goes down in the game the the backup quarterback is the greatest job in the world you make a shit ton of money sometimes you never play But then when you do get in the way, you're expected to play at the same level or somewhat close to the starter, no matter who that is.

So for the people who are complaining he's set up to fail and this and that, like, you got to remember, Dylan Gabriel's also a rookie. Dylan Gabriel probably needs every rep he can get. So I just think it's funny when people make this bigger than it is. I hope Shador balls this week. I hope he freaking kicks ass. He's going to get all the reps. He will be prepared. He's a smart kid.

but like for all the people who say like oh reps like that's it's a real thing you get very third string gets no reps right second string depends on the organization and clearly stefansky was given all the first team reps to dylan gabriel because he's a starter so you can put that to bed it's it's it's a ridiculous argument now maybe he needs to get out of cleveland maybe they don't like all those things i get that so why that's what i was going to say maybe it's i mean i would like by the way i would want him to get out of there, too. Yeah. But, but yeah, I mean, look, I hope he balls, man.

I hope he balls. He had a rough week because then his house got broken into, too. Did you see that? Yeah, that's crazy. A couple hundred grand or something. Yeah. I think he's handled it well, you know? Like, he's, you know, he had some of his moments early on, the media.

I think he's handled it well. And look, I bet those guys in that locker room are pulling for him. I bet the root for him. And I hope he plays well. Here's my little ray of sunshine on this, like, oh, he's set up to the one good thing about being in Cleveland

and being drafted by the Browns right after Dylan Gabriel with Joe Flacco there and Deshawn Watson, you know at some point you're going to get the ball. I just knew it. If you thought for one second

going into this year, you were not going to see Shadora Sanders, even if it was week 17, he was going to get first team reps and start at some point, unless Dylan Gabriel

did something remarkable, which I don't think the funny thing is, is going to be, if, who do the Browns play this week? The Raiders. The Raiders. So, perfect game. Like four times as well.

Exactly. If Shador plays well and they win and Dylan Gabriel's available next week, that's going to be the, that's going to be the, if Shador doesn't start and they go back to Dylan Gabriel, then all hell is going to break loose. Yeah. And I'm not necessarily think that's fair or not. I'm just saying if they win and he plays well, because it is the Raiders. Yeah. That's going to be, it'll be interesting to see what Stefansky does with that. Yeah.

So, Annie, before we start with trivia, you know, I was really taken by your video where we all got to spend the day with you and you put up your Christmas tree. And I really got the feeling of how into the holidays you are and the holidays are upon us. So we have two slates, right, coming up. We have the Thanksgiving slate. And then we got Christmas Day, which I think is slowly but surely supplanted Thanksgiving is maybe a better sports day. But then when I looked at the lineups, and Matt, way in here, too, it's interesting what they went. Obviously, we get the Detroit Dallas games, right? So Thanksgiving, we got Green Day, your Packers, at the Lions, as expected.

You got Casey at Dallas, fun game, and then you got Bengals at Ravens, which will be what it'll be. They thought it was going to be a better game when they made the schedule. But then when you look at Christmas Day, Dallas again at Washington, Lions again at Vikings. and then Broncos again at Chiefs. Why do those three teams get both games? I thought that was insane that you put the same three teams from Thanksgiving on Christmas Day.

It's got to be up because, I mean, I know that that's like a while the sports talk shows they start out with the Cowboys because it generates so much viewership and that's what everybody wants to see right on primetime and all that stuff. But no, like the Cowboys have had, it's felt like a couple primetime games

back to back already this year. It just is like a lot of shoving it down our throats. And I don't want to watch the chiefs, the five and five chiefs on prime time again. Well, I just think that also when you look deeper on the Sunday slate, you got the Eagles at the Bills. How is that game at least not supplanting Lions Vikings, which is probably a fun game. But the only thing I think of is people, like Christmas Day, obviously not as big of a football day as Thanksgiving. And everybody talks about how NBA, like, we're trying to take over viewership of the NBA on Christmas Day.

Up until recently, like, I don't even remember a Black Friday game, I don't think. I mean, it's just all, it's just changed a lot, the whole Christmas game. So maybe they're thinking they don't need to. I think it was a major success last year, right? Netflix, like the ratings were huge. The viewing was great. All my family doesn't sit around and drink mimosis on Christmas Day. Yeah.

I can watch some football during it. The kids get all their toys so they're distracted. We get to lay on the couch. I fly on Thanksgiving, so I have a different, I never have, I haven't had a Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah, because Ohio State, Michigan. Kind of a big weekend for. College football. It's a huge weekend.

Well, you also mentioned the word drinking, and you are here, courtesy of Twisted Tea, and we're going to do some trivia. Yes. Anything new for anything we should know going into this. This week we're going to do, we're not doing movies. Okay. We'll leave that one in the past.

We're going to do for the picture segment, pictures of guys from a former team, and you guys have to guess maybe the guy and the current team is like the biggest part. If you can't guess the guy, I'll give the name and then who they play for currently. So we have to guess the name and who they play for currently. It's like well-known people. So if we can't recognize them right away, I'll give you the name.

So if you get one half of the question, does that count as a point? Sure. Yeah, we'll do that. Oh, so we'll make the, uh, the point. Matt is eight and three in trivia games and Matt has 29 total questions, right? I have 19 questions right. I did win two to nothing last week and I'm on the come up. I got them right where I want them.

You want to, like, hey, I got all the first team, I got all the first team reps this. Load management. I'm just going to take a couple weeks off, buddy. I got all the first team reps this week. I'm ready to go. I feel prepared.

First team reps. All right, gentlemen. First question. Are we ready? Yes. Two quarterbacks are tied for most rushing touchdowns in NFL history with 75. Name one of them. Omar Jackson.

No, shockingly. Damn it. That was a great guess. Josh Allen? Josh Allen is one. Let's go. Yeah. Do you guys know the other one?

I mean, the other ones? Bonus for the other ones? The other one's kind of what? Difficult? No, pretty obvious. Steve Young. No.

A little bit more current. Michael Vic? Not current. I was going to say Vic. Nope. More current than that? About the same time. Well, more more current.

A little bit more. It's not Cam Newton. It is Cam Newton. It's 71. Cam Newton. It's 71 for the kid. Is that 1-0? Because I got one name right, too.

No, no, no, no, no. It's not how... That was bonus. Yeah, that was for fun. Okay. Who has the record for most past completions in one game in NFL history? Jacoby Burset? Yes.

I mean, I... Last weekend. That was crazy, by the way. I don't know how they're feeling about... My Disney is... It was 47. 47. And a blowout law.

Yeah. Like, how are you not? Dude, one time and a fun fact, I was playing, actually, Green Bay, preseason, game number four, two, whatever. I played most of the game, and I threw the ball 47 times in the second half. In preseason? 400 yards. Yeah, we were down, it was awesome.

It was, we were down, I don't even know, like 20 to 3, say it said 30 to 3. And we came back and we lost. We went for a two-point conversion to win with no time left. Like three touchdowns, 400 in the second half. I was like 37, I don't know, 37 for 47 in the second half, bro. It was crazy. I'm going to rewatch that one on YouTube on the flight home. I'll send you a link.

Send me the link. That's awesome. I think you can find it. I forget what year is like 2000. That could have been a trivia question. Yeah. Matt would have no problems with and it would be completely fair. That's amazing.

All right. Okay. Last question. Who is the current leader for passing yards this season? Daniel Jones. Drake May. Yeah. Bam.

Boom. Yeah. Damn it. It was Daniel Jones like two weeks ago, I feel like. And then he had two games. Yeah. And so he had two games. Yeah.

This will be fun. This will be fun. These are the pictures. So first of all, see if you can, first picture. See if you can figure out who it is and what is their current team. Because they'll be in the jersey of their family. Nick Chubb Houston, Texas. Wow.

That was right. That was annihilation on a Disney, on Disney internet is what that was on Disney Wi-Fi. Jerry's on a whole other level here in Disney World. Maybe that's what you need. You just need to be in Disney all the time. So I get one for that, yes? Yes, one.

That's as excited as I've seen you get it in a long time. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Okay, next one. Ready? Go. Tyler Lockett. I beat you on that.

No, you think. Yes, I did. I beat you on that. In my ear, I swear to you. Jerry's like, Jerry, you're like ridiculous, bro. You're ridiculous. Oh, I already won, so it really doesn't matter. You got to get the team.

No, you didn't. We just settled that. You don't have to get the team. We just said that. Okay. I want to say Baltimore. No. Raiders?

Yeah, Raiders. Wow. It took me a second, too. I forgot. Good for you on a question. In my year, I swear, I said Tyler Lotton. You say that every time. We need like an instant replay to see who's mouth moved first.

All right, Matt extends to his lead long season. I will be drinking Twisted Tea live on the air next week for this. I need something to boost my life. You're just saying something to loosen you up a little bit. I think you're just, you're too uptight. I will say this is probably the quickest response time though. You guys were. We were on it today.

We performed a little better after last week. Well, it's better when we say like, oh, who was number one in the box office in 2022. Like, come on, you know. We got it. Come on. Annie, thank you very much. Looking forward to your video.

Try to work in Cam Skapaboo and wrestling if you can. Oh, 100%. 100%. That's a personal favorite to me. The man kept his hat on like the whole time too. It was very impressive. Very impressive, Kim.

It was very impressive. All right. We'll see you later, Annie. And thank you everybody out there for listening. We will be back with an episode before Thanksgiving. So we're not quite going to say happy holidays yet. Until then. Thank you.